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| 00:16.59 | winkiller | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYhQVFAoiNU |
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| 03:17.48 | Amarande | Evening. |
| 03:18.00 | Amarande | So, what's everyone's thoughts on the Sunwell, its timing and requirements? |
| 03:24.18 | Amarande | seems there's a bunch of talk on the boards that say Sunwell will be awesome for high pop servers and an epic fail for the lower ones |
| 03:24.31 | Amarande | due, mind you, mainly to organic mechanics |
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| 05:02.52 | Amarande | oh good god. |
| 05:02.56 | Amarande | I am teh epic fail |
| 05:03.13 | Amarande | a guildie asked me to make her something with her mats |
| 05:03.21 | Amarande | and I don't realize till AFTER making the item, that it's BoP :| |
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| 05:16.40 | Amarande | btw |
| 05:16.48 | Amarande | anyone else having problems with images not loading on the wiki? |
| 05:18.26 | Sky2042 | Amarande: nope. |
| 05:19.01 | sacarasc | Amarande: nice... BoP thing |
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| 08:10.07 | Sky2042 | i don't know if he's taunting me or what... |
| 08:10.26 | sacarasc | /taunt Sky2042 |
| 08:10.34 | Sky2042 | heh |
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| 08:29.50 | foxlit | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Smoldering_Wand&curid=147807&diff=1241673&oldid=1173440 tada |
| 08:30.11 | foxlit | Hrm, I can one up that still |
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| 08:42.58 | foxlit | Oh great |
| 08:43.23 | foxlit | "The decision to prefix categories with "World of Warcraft" was not made by any kind of consensus, so I consider it non-binding." said Fandyllic and tagged the category to be moved to the old name :/ |
| 08:45.48 | Sky2042 | foxlit: yeah, hold up on recatting. |
| 08:46.28 | foxlit | Someone might want to yank correct2category, then |
| 08:50.20 | Sky2042 | someone needs to collate all the discussion on it and start up some policy editing. |
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| 08:52.17 | Sky2042 | and there's our other resident super botter. |
| 08:52.24 | foxlit | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Category:World_of_Warcraft_two-hand_items&curid=154374&diff=1241687&oldid=1163131 ? |
| 08:52.58 | Sky2042 | all weapons are equipable. thus, this is an instance of double catting. |
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| 08:54.20 | foxlit | It's just odd that you removed "hand" for "habd" :) |
| 08:55.07 | Sky2042 | oh. |
| 08:55.10 | Sky2042 | o_o |
| 08:55.55 | foxlit | Okay, hot {{correct2category}} parser done :P |
| 08:58.50 | Sky2042 | oh, btw, you fixed them to the wrong name. |
| 08:58.52 | Sky2042 | :P |
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| 09:47.22 | Sky2042 | foxlit: your bot's awfully ineffiecient... are those test edits? |
| 09:47.35 | foxlit | define inefficient_ |
| 09:47.53 | Sky2042 | it's not clearing one category at a time |
| 09:48.19 | foxlit | I struggle to see the inefficiency :) |
| 09:48.35 | Sky2042 | ... |
| 09:49.43 | Sky2042 | ear wax |
| 09:49.53 | foxlit | dictionary |
| 09:50.07 | Sky2042 | ? |
| 09:51.56 | foxlit | There's no reason to clear one category at a time :) |
| 09:52.10 | Sky2042 | you can delete the categories as you go. |
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| 09:52.22 | foxlit | I don't want to delete the categories |
| 09:52.33 | Sky2042 | por que no? |
| 09:52.58 | foxlit | They still exist because people still tag for them - heck, even Foxbot's categorization list is questionable |
| 09:53.35 | laurly | im going to code a module for laurlybot to deal with moving stuff from one cat to another. |
| 09:53.36 | foxlit | Keeping those empty cats around and periodically clearing them using their own tags seems a sane option - otherwise, we'd end up in a situation with deletected categories having pages and no instructions on where to move them |
| 09:53.56 | laurly | bot can run once a day and recat anything messed up. |
| 09:54.03 | Sky2042 | well, there's a circular argument. "let's keep them because people keep tagging for them" |
| 09:54.08 | Sky2042 | -_- |
| 09:54.19 | foxlit | Not people. |
| 09:54.21 | laurly | crap tbh make them learn to cat them right. |
| 09:54.22 | foxlit | Bots, really :) |
| 09:54.35 | laurly | foxlit is probably right though. |
| 09:54.55 | foxlit | I'm not too concerned about people - they'll actually see the red link and do something about it |
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| 09:55.12 | foxlit | (I wonder if the category list in Help:Item preload is even moderately sane by now) |
| 09:55.35 | foxlit | laurly: by the time you're done, there may be nothing left to retag :) |
| 09:55.53 | Sky2042_ | prolly not. |
| 09:56.27 | foxlit | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:Recentchanges&hidebots=0&limit=150 my precioussss! |
| 09:57.40 | Sky2042_ | oh god |
| 09:58.13 | foxlit | But hey, Sky, cheer up. |
| 09:58.26 | Sky2042_ | mm? |
| 09:58.32 | foxlit | It's still less edits than people running AWB would require |
| 09:58.39 | Sky2042_ | not really. |
| 09:58.46 | foxlit | I need one per wrongly categorized page |
| 09:58.52 | Sky2042_ | so do I |
| 09:58.54 | foxlit | They need one per wrongly categorized page per category |
| 09:59.28 | Sky2042_ | AWB lets you find and replace regex style ;) |
| 09:59.40 | Sky2042_ | and you can have as many F+Rs as you want. |
| 09:59.47 | foxlit | And who is going to bother writing 120 regexes? |
| 10:00.04 | Sky2042_ | there's 120 wrongly tagged cats? |
| 10:00.08 | Sky2042_ | liez |
| 10:00.23 | Sky2042_ | doesn't have to be a regex F+R. |
| 10:00.26 | foxlit | I'm skipping anything with "World of Warcraft" in category/replacement name at the moment |
| 10:00.27 | Sky2042_ | i should say. |
| 10:01.09 | Sky2042_ | I can type "[[Category:Quest Givers|" in the input box and ask for [[Category:Quest givers|. Rinse and repeat. |
| 10:01.55 | Sky2042_ | you're prolly going to want to bot the race categories. |
| 10:02.08 | Sky2042_ | eg Blood Elves to blood elves |
| 10:03.14 | foxlit | well, it's not tagged, so it's not done :) |
| 10:03.38 | foxlit | Title case for Elf seems to be rather common in categories |
| 10:03.54 | Sky2042_ | yeah, well, it's wrong. |
| 10:03.55 | Sky2042_ | :P |
| 10:04.05 | Sky2042_ | just as Fel Orcs should be Fel orcs |
| 10:04.35 | Sky2042_ | and etc. |
| 10:05.39 | laurly | fox not really since i have all the primary functions created now its just createing modues. something as simple as moving cats wont take more then a few hours |
| 10:06.11 | laurly | guild module is done i just need to test it before i let it loose |
| 10:06.24 | foxlit | laurly: my point was mainly that I'm done and it's running at the moment :) |
| 10:07.01 | laurly | okies one less thing for me to do then Varghedin mentoned it last night so i told him i would code laurly bot to do zone cats |
| 10:07.15 | Sky2042_ | eh |
| 10:07.21 | Sky2042_ | pywikipediabot does categories also. |
| 10:07.43 | Sky2042_ | fox, what's foxbot written in? |
| 10:07.51 | foxlit | lua |
| 10:08.00 | Sky2042_ | mmm |
| 10:09.48 | laurly | i really hate only haveing one monitor |
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| 10:53.18 | Adys | ~ping |
| 10:53.19 | infobot | pong |
| 10:54.36 | foxlit | laurly: ping! |
| 10:55.36 | laurly | ? |
| 10:55.50 | laurly | foxlit put that thing away. |
| 10:56.14 | laurly | priest-on-a-stick staff looks kewler |
| 10:56.15 | foxlit | I want to see your module architecture, post a module, any module somewhere? :) |
| 10:56.29 | foxlit | That was eerily quick, laurly :P |
| 10:56.59 | laurly | you want to see my what?` |
| 10:57.46 | laurly | i have been working on the bot for 3 days. theres no way im posting any of the crap code anywhere :) |
| 10:57.48 | foxlit | I'm sure that's an elaborate comical set up right there :) |
| 10:58.08 | foxlit | Surely the modules are somewhat elegant? |
| 10:58.54 | laurly | right now its just a bunch of fucntions split up into include files. |
| 10:59.23 | laurly | armory.ini.php has all the functions relating to riping data from armory and then a xml paraphraser and a lovly little function to find just the one value you want from the xml. |
| 10:59.23 | foxlit | Nevermind the core, I've got 200 lines of meta-glue that seems meaningless even after closer examination. |
| 10:59.37 | foxlit | Any interesting functions, then? |
| 10:59.54 | laurly | oh i love the one that search's the array :) |
| 11:00.01 | foxlit | readySkysMind(true, true, false, 42, "evil")? |
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| 11:02.30 | laurly | whats the pastebin site .... |
| 11:03.04 | foxlit | pastey.net |
| 11:03.13 | laurly | http://dpaste.com/38386/ |
| 11:03.28 | foxlit | I typically abuse http://www.spirit-dreams.net/ui/notepad , mainly because I can actually keys to old links there |
| 11:03.38 | laurly | isnt it prity :) |
| 11:04.46 | foxlit | You're looking for an array element by key? |
| 11:05.04 | laurly | yeah thats what my xml parser gives me back a lovely little array |
| 11:05.31 | laurly | hmm well not little :) |
| 11:06.01 | foxlit | ah, you try to search any nested array for the key as well, until found? |
| 11:06.28 | foxlit | There are some general shortcuts :) |
| 11:06.41 | foxlit | isset($array[$key]) |
| 11:06.49 | foxlit | foreach ($array as $key => $value) |
| 11:07.53 | laurly | never bothered with foreach. for loops are good enough for me :) |
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| 11:08.09 | foxlit | The problem, though, is that you have a hastable |
| 11:08.20 | foxlit | You can't iterate that effectively using for |
| 11:08.38 | foxlit | array_keys() actually spawns another array, which isn't very memory/time efficient |
| 11:08.38 | laurly | if it works dont mess with it. |
| 11:08.56 | foxlit | Coal power: if it works, don't mess with it! |
| 11:09.15 | foxlit | But yeah, it works. |
| 11:09.35 | laurly | ppl are demanding bot edits. let me get it running optimising can come later |
| 11:09.52 | laurly | besides it ran 1500 guilds in like 15 min against armory so that code cant be that slow. |
| 11:11.26 | laurly | exactly. thats why its recursive. |
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| 15:09.14 | laurly | ping foxlit |
| 15:09.22 | foxlit | pong |
| 15:09.29 | laurly | Archimode |
| 15:09.29 | laurly | Archimonde |
| 15:09.35 | laurly | is that two diffrence servers? |
| 15:09.48 | laurly | http://www.wowwiki.com/Guild:HousE_ForsakeN_%28Archimode_US%29 |
| 15:09.49 | laurly | http://us.wowarmory.com/search.xml?searchQuery=HousE+ForsakeN&searchType=guilds |
| 15:10.20 | laurly | or did someone spell the guild server wrong? |
| 15:10.46 | foxlit | armory has the right server |
| 15:10.56 | laurly | so someone messed up the server name on the guild page. |
| 15:12.31 | laurly | evil ppl breaking bot. |
| 15:12.40 | foxlit | "In Soviet Russia, calculus takes the limit of you!" |
| 15:14.58 | laurly | Microsoft: "You've got questions. We've got dancing paperclips." |
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| 15:53.31 | Kalroth | Not nice to kick someone that's already down. |
| 15:55.36 | *** kick/#wowwiki [laurly!n=foxlit@wnn73243.wireless.dtu.dk] by armory (armory) |
| 15:55.46 | foxlit | Unexpected consequences :/ |
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| 15:55.57 | laurly | funny |
| 15:56.13 | foxlit | Very :) |
| 15:56.30 | foxlit | Very delayed autojoin? |
| 15:56.57 | laurly | dont have it set up for auto join |
| 16:03.31 | laurly | im bored with bot testing. |
| 16:05.04 | foxlit | then take a nap! |
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| 16:07.24 | laurly | na |
| 16:07.50 | laurly | my X invted me for dinner hes picking me up in an hour. And dont ask me why im having dinner with my xhusband |
| 16:08.24 | equiraptor | heh |
| 16:08.45 | equiraptor | I know someone whose ex-husband has been calling her, telling her how much of a mistake leaving is... |
| 16:08.48 | equiraptor | he's married to someone else now. |
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| 16:13.10 | laurly | he found a 21 year old girlfriend while we where still married cant mistake that |
| 16:13.55 | equiraptor | Hah. |
| 16:14.05 | equiraptor | Yeah, so, why are you going to dinner with him? :-P |
| 16:14.35 | laurly | free pizza? |
| 16:16.49 | equiraptor | Haha |
| 16:16.53 | equiraptor | Whatever works. :) |
| 16:17.20 | laurly | hes not that bad as long as we just talk about computers we get along fine. |
| 16:17.32 | equiraptor | Haha, I know that feeling. |
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| 16:24.59 | laurly | We Die Alot nice guild name |
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| 16:30.09 | equiraptor | "I Caz Haz Corpse Run" |
| 16:30.14 | equiraptor | mebbe? no? dang. |
| 16:30.35 | laurly | Guild:Ye Olde Goone Squade (The Venture Co. EU) |
| 16:30.51 | laurly | well its gone :) |
| 16:31.14 | equiraptor | A friend of mine founded <Void If Removed> |
| 16:31.56 | laurly | Guild:A F K (Madoran US) <-- they must have gone afk to much you think? |
| 16:32.04 | equiraptor | heh |
| 16:39.21 | laurly | http://www.wowwiki.com/Guild:Asheron%27s_Exiles_%28Turalyon_EU%29 |
| 16:39.25 | laurly | grrr ppl and there spelling |
| 16:40.30 | laurly | http://eu.wowarmory.com/search.xml?searchQuery=Asheron%27s+Exiles&searchType=guilds |
| 16:40.31 | Adys | (erm) |
| 16:40.33 | laurly | ping foxlit |
| 16:40.39 | laurly | or adys works |
| 16:40.55 | laurly | gots going to gag on that one becouse they put a ' in the name on wiki but armory says theres no s |
| 16:41.02 | laurly | no ' before the s |
| 16:41.14 | laurly | have the bot ignore that one or move the page? |
| 16:41.24 | Adys | move id say |
| 16:42.03 | laurly | moved |
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| 16:55.07 | laurly | there shes sd'd a few pages im off bbl |
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| 17:03.48 | Ose | hello there |
| 17:03.51 | pcj | hi |
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| 17:08.40 | Ose | Template:User exalted = done :D |
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| 17:13.30 | Amarande | ok. this continues to puzzle me |
| 17:13.38 | pcj | what |
| 17:13.46 | Amarande | lately on the wiki ... the logo image loads, any ad images from the Spotlight load, and the Google logo by the search box load |
| 17:13.54 | Amarande | but NONE of the other wiki images are loading at all, I just get the alt text |
| 17:14.05 | Amarande | checked my user preferences, doesn't look like anything there affects this |
| 17:14.18 | foxlit | Hey, laurly |
| 17:14.21 | Ose | I haven't seen anything like that... |
| 17:14.28 | foxlit | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Guild:JPF_%28Bloodhoof_EU%29&curid=155362&diff=1242915&oldid=1195865 something fails |
| 17:14.28 | pcj | laurly is offline foxlit |
| 17:14.43 | foxlit | evil |
| 17:15.13 | Amarande | On the good side, I've figured out why WoW crashed, and it probably should help a good lot of people on Vista. :) |
| 17:15.22 | Amarande | SuperFetch needs to be renamed to SuperFail lol |
| 17:15.38 | Amarande | Haven't had a single WoW error I can recall since I disabled the stupid thing :P |
| 17:15.56 | pcj | wow runs just fine on vista for me |
| 17:16.24 | foxlit | Perhaps its time to replace your faulty flash stick? |
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| 17:16.26 | PhotoJim | I run WoW on Vista on my desktop. It's fine. |
| 17:16.27 | Amarande | well, it used to run just fine for me, then recently I would keep getting error 131 at random for no reason |
| 17:16.32 | PhotoJim | 2 GiB of RAM though. |
| 17:16.40 | Amarande | foxlit: that's ReadyBoost, not SuperFetch, and I don't use the flash stick feature |
| 17:16.55 | PhotoJim | Nor do I. |
| 17:16.59 | Amarande | SuperFetch is the one that caches frequently used applications in memory for faster alt-tabbing |
| 17:17.27 | Amarande | well, supposedly faster, since a lot of people have not been able to report anything but lots of disk thrashing :S |
| 17:17.49 | Amarande | I suspect the problem with SuperFetch stems from that it tends to use all or nearly all your RAM to do this. |
| 17:17.49 | pcj | amarande, might need to run a memory diagnostics |
| 17:17.58 | Kaso | Amarande is it the (W) type logo thats the only one that works for you? |
| 17:17.59 | pcj | click start, type memory in the search pane |
| 17:18.11 | pcj | run the memory diagnostics tool |
| 17:18.22 | Amarande | This can cause conflicts with programs that like to decompress stuff frequently, like WoW, or application installers (I also noticed I had to run the iTunes install twice the other day because the first time it complained the file was "corrupt") |
| 17:18.35 | Amarande | pcj: I've run memtest86 on this thing a few times without problems |
| 17:18.51 | Amarande | like I said, disabled SuperFetch, WoW hasn't had a "decompression failed" error since |
| 17:19.06 | Amarande | Kaso: yeah, it's the circled W that shows up |
| 17:19.18 | Amarande | also the Google logo near search boxes, and any ADVERTISING images of course show up :S |
| 17:19.33 | Kaso | interesting, that logo is stored on http://images.wikia.com/common/ where every other image is on http://images.wikia.com/wowwiki/ |
| 17:19.35 | Kaso | http://images.wikia.com/wowwiki/images/a/a0/Logo-horiz-260px.png |
| 17:19.37 | Amarande | but any other image doesn't, for instance I get words "Alliance Crest" or "Horde Crest" where the symbols would have been |
| 17:19.39 | Kaso | can you load that link ^ |
| 17:19.48 | *** join/#wowwiki Kazie (n=k@port207.ds1-vg.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 17:20.25 | Amarande | Kaso: that actually gives me an advertising page saying "Welcome to wikia.com" with things about dating services, used cars, etc. |
| 17:20.27 | foxlit | http referrer? |
| 17:20.40 | foxlit | or dns? |
| 17:20.42 | Kaso | Ok you have some spyware or a bad dns server |
| 17:21.00 | Kaso | prob the former, routing you to the latter |
| 17:21.27 | Amarande | the wikia home page fails to load its CSS or most of its images, either |
| 17:21.36 | Amarande | hmm, network settings check ... |
| 17:21.40 | Kaso | yah something's not good there |
| 17:21.56 | pcj | discussion on http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#Special_section_for_Arena.3F is getting testy |
| 17:22.31 | Amarande | IPv4 properties are showing the proper DNS servers as provided by my ISP |
| 17:22.47 | Kaso | open up a command prompt and do "nslookup images.wikia.com" the tell me what the server and address fields say |
| 17:23.09 | Amarande | Name: g1.panthercdn.com |
| 17:23.09 | Amarande | Address: 8.15.231.163 |
| 17:23.09 | Amarande | Aliases: images.wikia.com |
| 17:23.28 | Kaso | what does the first line "server:" say |
| 17:23.56 | Amarande | Server: UnKnown |
| 17:23.56 | Amarande | Address: 24.151.8.210:53 |
| 17:24.06 | Amarande | hmm, is my ISP in collusion with the ad industry? |
| 17:24.12 | pcj | that's a bad IP address on images.wikia.com |
| 17:24.27 | Kaso | is that IP for the dns sever the same as in your settings? |
| 17:24.32 | foxlit | The rght one is 17.212.227.68 |
| 17:24.36 | foxlit | *217.212.227.68 |
| 17:24.41 | Amarande | yeah, that's what my network settings give, that and .211 |
| 17:25.03 | Kaso | You're with charter yes? |
| 17:25.13 | Amarande | .211 gives, btw: |
| 17:25.13 | Amarande | Name: g1.panthercdn.com |
| 17:25.13 | Amarande | Address: 209.170.120.39 |
| 17:25.13 | Amarande | Aliases: images.wikia.com |
| 17:25.18 | Amarande | and yes, I'm with Charter |
| 17:25.26 | foxlit | that's better |
| 17:25.35 | Kaso | change to your secondary DNS server then |
| 17:25.39 | Amarande | has someone been hijacking Charter's DNS servers lately? |
| 17:25.39 | Kaso | and complain to charter |
| 17:25.59 | Kaso | lemme check if their dns server gives me the same responce |
| 17:26.06 | Kaso | perhaps something is intercepting your traffic |
| 17:27.28 | *** join/#wowwiki Charon (n=Charon@64.252.14.186) |
| 17:27.55 | Charon | beep |
| 17:28.07 | Amarande | here's something else suspicious |
| 17:28.41 | Amarande | and this is from the SECONDARY even mind you ... if I put complete garbage into the nslookup, I still get a "valid" IP such as - |
| 17:28.41 | Amarande | Name: sdfhusfuiewfjhiewf.xtj |
| 17:28.42 | Amarande | Addresses: 64.158.56.56, 206.112.100.132, 63.251.179.56 |
| 17:28.57 | foxlit | Who's your ISP? |
| 17:29.00 | Amarande | Charter. |
| 17:29.06 | Kaso | alot of isps like to break dns to push invalid addresses to a search page |
| 17:29.24 | foxlit | Consider http://www.opendns.com/ |
| 17:29.34 | Amarande | lemme guess ... they get paid to make us think we have spyware |
| 17:29.44 | Amarande | and will try to put all blame on the client even if I used every spyware scanner and came up clean |
| 17:29.45 | foxlit | Well, not quite |
| 17:30.01 | foxlit | But DNS lookup/mismatch data is sellable |
| 17:30.31 | Amarande | they can't even fix their reverse DNS on at least one of their cable nodes so I'll show up as a hostname instead of an IP |
| 17:30.36 | Amarande | and they have time to put in this BS? |
| 17:30.40 | foxlit | http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/02/15/0432259&from=rss |
| 17:31.11 | Amarande | hell I even sent them an email once to the effect of "your reverse DNS is b0rked, fix it" and never got an answer :S |
| 17:31.44 | Kaso | foxlit (or anyone else) can you connect to 24.151.8.210 and lookup images.wikia.com, apparently my uni firewall doesnt allow connections to external dns servers >.< |
| 17:32.50 | Amarande | heh, apparently, OpenDNS actually does the same ad stuff, from what /. is saying :S |
| 17:33.00 | Amarande | well, SSDA, pretty much |
| 17:33.02 | Kaso | its optional i think |
| 17:33.04 | Amarande | same s***, different ads lol |
| 17:33.28 | Kaso | try 4.2.2.1 4.2.2.2 4.2.2.3 4.2.2.4 4.2.2.5 4.2.2.6 i've heard they're good public dns servers |
| 17:34.13 | Kaso | but i have a speical hate for people who like to pretty much break the internet to try and peddle their shitty adverts |
| 17:34.15 | Amarande | Kaso: which aren't giving the correct IP for images.wikia.com either :S |
| 17:34.20 | Kaso | ah |
| 17:34.34 | Amarande | lemme guess ... the US economy at this point no longer permits responsible behavior |
| 17:34.34 | Kaso | then you have a virus or something intercepting your traffic |
| 17:34.47 | Amarande | because it's turned into irresponsible behavior, as it would reduce the number of jobs that companies can support :| |
| 17:36.55 | Amarande | hmm, let's see if spybot S&D picks up anything |
| 17:37.01 | Amarande | virus scans keep coming up clean |
| 17:37.15 | Amarande | (which should be the case, if this is corporate collusion with marketers) |
| 17:37.51 | Kaso | well i doubt that two seperate dns servers are colluding with the same marketers |
| 17:37.54 | Kaso | i'd hope at least |
| 17:38.14 | Amarande | you never know, it's almost down to one big happy company these days as far as the main Internets go :P |
| 17:40.56 | Kaso | the more and more i see commerical internet the more im glad of my university connection, sure i cant torrent, but we've got a nice 2.5gigabit un-packet shaped connection straight to the UK backbone, with a nice, honest pair of dns servers |
| 17:41.15 | Adys | google buying digg leak lol |
| 17:41.41 | Amarande | yeah, at this rate I'll probably have to start thinking of spending nearly all my spare money a month on a commercial grade net connection :P |
| 17:41.55 | Adys | oh, microsoft's psychopath is still alive |
| 17:42.45 | Adys | dont know whats worse, ballmer out of his cage, or people encouraging him and finding him funny |
| 17:43.08 | Amarande | But that would be yay for completely damning myself to never moving out of the folks' place because of irresponsible industries :| |
| 17:43.35 | Amarande | Figures. They put you in the nice fun situation of either playing into their hand, or having to sacrifice your ... what people like to call a "life" in order to oppose them :S |
| 17:44.47 | Amarande | lol, love how so many spyware programs claim to be virus protectors :) |
| 17:46.05 | Amarande | And what would we get for making the industries wither on the vine, anyway? |
| 17:46.23 | Amarande | We'd just make it ridiculously hard for geeks to make it in life :| |
| 17:46.49 | Amarande | so basically we either let them have their damned ads or we can get enough opposition to them and end up with a geek version of M.A.D. |
| 17:48.02 | Kaso | Nowadays the difference between Spyware and viruses is getting less and less |
| 17:48.23 | Amarande | Kaso: there's spyware that will claim it's supposed to get *rid* of viruses though :) |
| 17:48.34 | Amarande | at least going by the names this thing is scanning for |
| 17:49.39 | Ose | can anyone help me a second with http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:User_exalted ? |
| 17:50.56 | Amarande | gluh. you'd think having SATA and 2GB and dual core and all would make this scan go faster |
| 17:52.36 | Amarande | hmm, on a WoW subject |
| 17:52.47 | Amarande | if you spec to felguard, buy grimoires for it, then respec, then spec back into felguard at a later time |
| 17:52.54 | Amarande | do you have to buy the grimoires again, or does it remember the old ones? |
| 18:00.51 | Amarande | anyway, spyware scan finished, as usual it's nothing but the usual cookies |
| 18:01.36 | Kaso | do you have a direct connection to the internet or are you on a more complex network? |
| 18:06.42 | Amarande | Kaso: I connect through a basic linksys router and cable modem, nothing particularly out of the ordinary |
| 18:07.39 | Kaso | Hmm, could be a more complex virus type thing thats hiding from spyware scanners, do you have a proper virus scanner? |
| 18:08.15 | Amarande | Also have a virus scanner, that never picked up anything either, and neither did the virus scanner I used before it |
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| 18:10.10 | Kaso | This is a mystery |
| 18:10.19 | Kaso | do you have any other PCs? |
| 18:11.25 | Amarande | hmm, there is one downstairs, it's probably in use right now though |
| 18:12.18 | Kaso | When its free see if it behaves the same, if not then you def have something on your PC and it might be time to pull out RootKit revealer on this |
| 18:12.51 | Amarande | it's the ISP, 100% |
| 18:12.59 | Amarande | I just went into the shell account I use to run my IRC bot on another network |
| 18:13.31 | Amarande | I'm getting another 209. IP for wikia images again |
| 18:14.21 | Kaso | surely that doesnt rule out a local based virus intercepting dns traffic? |
| 18:15.23 | Amarande | yeah, that would rule it out |
| 18:15.33 | Amarande | because the DNS traffic itself wasn't going through my PC then |
| 18:15.50 | Kaso | but the 209 ip is the correct one? |
| 18:15.52 | Amarande | I was connected to a shell account, and the DNS traffic was between the shell server and the DNS |
| 18:16.05 | Kaso | oh no it isnt |
| 18:16.12 | Amarande | no, because the correct IP for images.wikia starts with 217 |
| 18:17.50 | Kaso | Im getting my ips mixed up >.< |
| 18:18.58 | Ose | can anyone help me with a {{#switch}} issue? |
| 18:20.10 | Amarande | also, all the IPs I AM getting are a company called PantherCDN which appears to be an ad company |
| 18:20.30 | Kaso | Umm im getting a that IP now wtf |
| 18:20.35 | Kaso | 195.12.231.217 |
| 18:21.27 | Kaso | PantherCDN is a content delivery network, theyre not nessassarily an add company |
| 18:21.45 | Amarande | tried switching nslookup to use an openDNS server, I STILL get a PantherCDN server instead of images.wikia.com's proper IP |
| 18:21.50 | Kaso | i didnt know wikia was using a CDN, this makes more sense for random changing ip |
| 18:23.16 | Amarande | hmm, sure it's wikia, though? |
| 18:24.36 | Amarande | ok, tried plugging one of those IPs into the image URL you gave me earlier |
| 18:24.37 | Amarande | I get this: |
| 18:24.41 | Amarande | http://209.95.139.158/wowwiki/images/a/a0/Logo-horiz-260px.png |
| 18:24.58 | Amarande | and all the page text reads, is an image MADE OF that text ... |
| 18:25.53 | Amarande | also, going back to the wowwiki page itself and right clicking on what I thought was alt text |
| 18:26.09 | Amarande | shows that the supposed 'alt text' actually is images that consist of the text, in the correct font no less ... |
| 18:26.28 | Kaso | i understand the issue you're having now |
| 18:26.55 | Kaso | sorta, the first IP you got was random and wrong and im not sure, but the panthercdn stuff is right |
| 18:27.26 | Kaso | wikia appears to be using a CDN to host its images, which is understandable, and CDNs work by dns magic pointing you to the correct server for your image |
| 18:27.48 | Kaso | however by going to the URL directly its breaking, i assume because its wanting referes |
| 18:27.57 | Kaso | referers, do you have them turned off in firefox? |
| 18:30.12 | Amarande | ok, switching to OpenDNS seems to have given some results, as well |
| 18:30.19 | Amarande | now the Tier 6 page is looking right at least |
| 18:30.21 | Amarande | though it was weird. |
| 18:30.27 | Amarande | when I first entered a wowwiki search after switching |
| 18:30.51 | Amarande | it looked at me "this looks like a virus or robot search yadda yadda" and made me type in letters |
| 18:31.46 | Kaso | google do that sometimes, you dont happen to have a firefox application that "hides" or "secures" your google searches? |
| 18:33.03 | Amarande | Nope. Haven't installed any addons for Firefox lately other than the normal ones like Acrobat, Flash etc. |
| 18:33.18 | Amarande | Unlike my WoW UI, my Firefox UI is kinda plain :) |
| 18:33.40 | Kaso | could just be random and unconnected |
| 18:35.04 | Kaso | but i recon some sort of referer, or cookie or other meddling is causing issues for you, those ips changes appear to be natural |
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| 18:41.48 | Kaso | Or! |
| 18:42.24 | Amarande | heh, the sad thing is that I have the right attitude about ads, yet it's also a destructive attitude now |
| 18:42.27 | Kaso | It could be your DNS server being naughty and caching results for the dns enquiry longer than the TTL allows |
| 18:42.39 | Amarande | Kaso: switch to OpenDNS fixed all |
| 18:43.26 | Amarande | and the collusion between Charter and an ad company is definite |
| 18:43.26 | Kaso | no no no |
| 18:43.26 | Amarande | on the one hand, intrusive ad pushing is bad |
| 18:43.34 | Amarande | on the other hand, it may be one of the things that provides enough marketing push to save the economy these days :| |
| 18:43.43 | Kaso | dont be silly, they arent redirecting your wikia traffic to ad companies (thought they prob are overriding your not found results) |
| 18:44.12 | Amarande | Kaso: yeah, and when a site has a DNS blip (like wikia might have I suppose) at the wrong time |
| 18:44.14 | Kaso | the issue with the wikia thing is bad interaction between wikia's CDN and charater's non-standards complient dns i think |
| 18:44.23 | Amarande | it will override the not found result with its ad server |
| 18:44.33 | Amarande | and then that will STAY in their cache, until the default TTL expires no doubt ... |
| 18:45.04 | Kaso | there server does seem to be doing odd things with caching |
| 18:45.39 | Amarande | I wouldn't be surprised if, if OpenDNS had a similar bad day, I would end up getting search pages. |
| 18:46.05 | Amarande | (which is what OpenDNS actually gives you on a not found, unlike Charter which gives you what looks like a search page but really just wants you to buy stuff from sponsors) |
| 18:46.39 | Amarande | anyway, would it be a good or a bad thing if we could push aggressive web advertising away? |
| 18:46.50 | Amarande | on the one hand it seems like a good thing from an ideal standpoint |
| 18:47.08 | Amarande | otoh, given that we're already in a recession, any significant damage to an industry is likely to push us into another 1929 |
| 18:47.41 | Amarande | (Bad, since that lets the Democrats win ... but meh, enough politics) |
| 18:48.03 | Amarande | as a gamer though, I can't say I want to see the Democrats win lol |
| 18:48.09 | Amarande | or at least not Clinton |
| 18:48.24 | Kaso | you'd prefer the religous right? I mean conservatives |
| 18:48.38 | Amarande | Kaso: at least McCain isn't an avowed video game regulation advocate |
| 18:48.44 | Kaso | "breaking" ? |
| 18:49.05 | Amarande | besides, the Republicans love big business, and the big media business wouldn't like censorship |
| 18:49.18 | foxlit | Want to move stuff around in how bot handles saving pages, the encoding is integral |
| 18:49.55 | Amarande | Clinton has been very gung ho about the idea of tougher government regulation of interactive video |
| 18:50.27 | Amarande | which is bad news for us, since I'm sure the ... agh, what was the school in IL called? and the VT incidents are just going to be fodder for her to say we need actual restrictions and bans, not just ratings |
| 18:50.43 | Keolah | Oh noes, I cuss on the internets, the government is going to come after me! |
| 18:51.03 | Kaso | im currently working on the assumption that obama is going to win the primaries and not worrying too much about clinton |
| 18:51.16 | Amarande | after all, those shooters were adults, so Hillary can point at them to promote the idea that ratings are not working and we need actual bans |
| 18:51.38 | Keolah | I bought the Orange Box, so it can help me practice with my terrorism. |
| 18:51.45 | Amarande | lol |
| 18:51.53 | Amarande | I try to *always* play only on the CT side in CS:S |
| 18:51.56 | Amarande | one, the T's are bad guys! |
| 18:52.05 | Amarande | two, more importantly, the T's don't get my favorite gun :P |
| 18:52.43 | Kaso | I love AA in that respect ^^ |
| 18:52.49 | Amarande | I tend to quickly gravitate to a pet weapon in each FPS I play, and tend to not be too happy when I can't get it |
| 18:52.50 | Kaso | how everyone is always the good guys |
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| 18:52.58 | Amarande | like say in Doom, it had to be the plasma rifle |
| 18:53.13 | Amarande | in UT I was fond of the sniper or the shock rifle |
| 18:53.21 | Amarande | in CS:S, it's all about the Krieg 550 |
| 18:53.48 | Amarande | I suppose CS:S's mechanics make me particularly fond of the sniper |
| 18:53.53 | Amarande | after all, oops yer dead you're out |
| 18:54.15 | Kaso | sniper whore, i like the Flak Cannon in UT |
| 18:54.18 | Amarande | games with respawning are much more lending to the leeroying strategy with super rapid fire goodness |
| 18:54.31 | Kaso | and im occationally partial to a P90 in CS |
| 18:54.37 | Amarande | as for CS ... well, sniping FTW |
| 18:54.54 | Amarande | I still remember the last time I played CS, we were walking in ... agh, one of the desert maps but I can't remember which |
| 18:55.05 | Amarande | and next thing pretty much our whole team are on the ground and we're like 'wtf' 'wtf' 'wtf' |
| 18:55.08 | Kaso | Dust? Dust2? |
| 18:55.21 | Amarande | I'm a CS noob pretty much, the names are fuzzy to me |
| 18:55.24 | Kaso | pretty much the only ones people play in CS |
| 18:55.27 | Keolah | I just want to shoot some crap at the moment. And petattack + autoshoot just doesn't cut it. ;p Meh, need to remember to do dailies later, don't really feel like dodging kaliri at the moment. |
| 18:55.34 | Amarande | I'm pretty sure it was a 'bomb' objective map, though |
| 18:56.09 | Kaso | de_dust or de_dust2 theyre so similar it barely matters which really |
| 18:56.11 | Amarande | (actually, doesn't everyone pretty much love the bomb maps and hate the other ones? lol) |
| 18:56.46 | Kaso | i remeber the good old days of CS when there was the VIP escort maps |
| 18:56.50 | Kaso | those were hardcore |
| 18:57.00 | Amarande | I think they still have those, but nobody plays them :S |
| 18:57.33 | Amarande | kinda like how WoW still has Ahn'Qiraj, I guess lol |
| 18:57.40 | Keolah | heh |
| 18:57.41 | Amarande | hell, from what I've read |
| 18:57.50 | Amarande | people hardly played AQ40 even when BC wasn't out yet |
| 18:58.04 | Amarande | mainly *because* BC was going to come out, apparently ... according to my gleanings from the Sunwell QQ thread |
| 18:58.18 | Keolah | I'd like to solo Ahn'Qiraj when I hit level 200 ;p |
| 18:58.20 | Kaso | I played AQ40 and Naxx |
| 18:58.26 | Kaso | they were awesome |
| 18:58.28 | Amarande | folks who weren't already done with AQ40 didn't want to waste time with it when expansion was going to be out and they were worried they wouldn't have time for Naxx |
| 18:58.43 | Amarande | one thing I have to say about WOTLK's Naxx |
| 18:58.50 | Amarande | they had BETTER still have the Misplaced Servo Arm. |
| 18:58.57 | Amarande | Upgrade it if they need to, but DON'T TAKE OUT THE MISPLACED SERVO ARM |
| 18:59.06 | Amarande | that's just too awesome and cool an item name to ditch :S |
| 18:59.44 | Amarande | anyway, the Sunwell concerns seem to be legitimate and not really QQ |
| 18:59.48 | Amarande | at least, depending on when WOTLK comes out. |
| 19:00.05 | Amarande | if it gets significantly delayed, then the Sunwell thread was QQ ... if it does come out this year it looks like real problems with the way it's designed |
| 19:00.54 | Kaso | wait people are moaning that theyre bringing out sunwell too close to WoLK launch? |
| 19:00.55 | Keolah | I was personally more interested in the talk of new solo content and not new dungeons. ;p |
| 19:01.13 | Amarande | Kaso: yeah, basically |
| 19:01.24 | Amarande | especially, top guilds on low pop servers are saying they just got SHAFTED based on the PTR reports |
| 19:01.41 | Amarande | basically, top guilds on high pop servers will get to see Kil'jaeden while even the best guilds on low pop ones may never |
| 19:01.53 | Kaso | People complaining about extra content, theres something i though id never see |
| 19:01.53 | Amarande | even if the guild on the low pop server is better |
| 19:01.59 | Amarande | it's not so much Sunwell itself |
| 19:02.04 | Amarande | as the method by which they're unlocking the bosses |
| 19:02.36 | Amarande | this method gives a huge advantage to the high pop realms and totally screws the low pop ones, especially the ones low enough to have only 1 or 2 fully progressed guilds per side |
| 19:02.49 | Amarande | the heart of the problem is the raid saving system |
| 19:03.05 | Keolah | Well, persnally, I wish there was more stuff that was challenging and interesting for small groups (ie 2-3 people) and not dungeons. |
| 19:03.12 | Amarande | basically, it works like this |
| 19:03.16 | Amarande | the Sunwell has gates |
| 19:03.32 | Amarande | and bosses in BT and Hyjal, as well as IIRC Vashj and Kael drop something called essence of immortal |
| 19:03.44 | Amarande | raiders turn this in, and once enough is turned in, the next gate in Sunwell will open allowing more bosses to be met |
| 19:04.04 | Amarande | and I think you can already start to tell where the fly in the ointment is here |
| 19:04.35 | Amarande | and that it's a pretty big nasty super sickness infected fly in the ointment, too :S |
| 19:05.14 | Amarande | basically, big servers are going to have an ez-mode time getting through, you have lots of raid guilds, many will be progressing into or through BT or Hyjal |
| 19:05.27 | Amarande | so lots of essences being farmed and turned in and the gates open pretty quickly there |
| 19:06.13 | Amarande | on small servers, the few raid guilds are going to be severely limited by the weekly boss lockouts, not to mention since there aren't other guilds progressing there, they are the ones who have to keep putting off more Sunwell practice to go back to Hyjal and BT for the kajillionth time to get more essence so they can move on |
| 19:06.52 | Amarande | so the worry on the small servers is that they won't be able to make it to Kil'jaeden before WOTLK comes out, Northrend greens make T6 look wimpy, and all their work is worthless. |
| 19:08.37 | Amarande | I suppose it may be similar to some small servers that probably never really got to see much of Ahn'Qiraj because by the time they managed to open the gates BC came out, though I'm not really 100% on that |
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| 19:25.02 | foxlit | ook |
| 19:25.09 | foxlit | How does wiki detect en edit conflict? |
| 19:25.32 | winkiller | http://www.duelinganalogs.com/comic/2008/01/24/and-now-a-word-from-our-sponsors/ |
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| 19:42.27 | foxlit | score! |
| 19:50.46 | Fisker- | that was pretty mean |
| 19:56.17 | laurly | http://www.wowwiki.com/Guild:Orpah_Winfreys_Book_Club_%28Madoran_US%29 <----------- LOL priceless |
| 19:57.24 | Adys | [20:25:10] <@foxlit> How does wiki detect en edit conflict? |
| 19:57.33 | Adys | when you start an edit, you are given an edit token |
| 19:57.56 | Adys | if the age of the edit token when you commit is bigger than the age of the most recent edit token commited on the page, there is edit conflict |
| 19:58.14 | foxlit | Adys: too late, sorry. |
| 19:58.20 | Adys | YOU SUCK |
| 19:58.27 | foxlit | Laurly: your bot tagged some existing guilds, btw |
| 19:58.34 | laurly | name them. |
| 19:58.48 | laurly | i have been checking them as i go. would be suprised. |
| 19:58.53 | foxlit | The one you linked, for example |
| 19:59.12 | laurly | http://us.wowarmory.com/search.xml?searchQuery=Orpah%20Winfreys%20Book%20Club&searchType=guilds |
| 19:59.14 | laurly | doesnt exist |
| 19:59.23 | foxlit | http://www.wowarmory.com/guild-info.xml?r=Madoran&n=Oprah+Winfreys+Book+Club&p=1 does too |
| 20:00.11 | Amarande | ok, is this real dirt on Sunwell, or QQ: |
| 20:00.12 | foxlit | http://www.wowarmory.com/search.xml?searchQuery=Oprah+Winfreys+Book+Club&searchType=guilds |
| 20:00.27 | Amarande | "Brutallicus is a supreme gear check that is going to basically REQUIRE 4p tier 6 bonuses on ALL of your DPS." |
| 20:00.49 | foxlit | Considering my 4p tier 6 bonus is moronic |
| 20:00.57 | foxlit | It's not very likely to be true :) |
| 20:01.07 | laurly | so why does Us armory not show it yet EU does. |
| 20:01.23 | Amarande | I should hope it's QQ, especially if I somehow by some miracle manage to start raiding and get to Sunwell before WOTLK |
| 20:01.24 | foxlit | www. is not EU |
| 20:01.45 | Adys | infobot: hello |
| 20:01.46 | infobot | Howdy Bub |
| 20:01.49 | Amarande | if 4p tier 6 bonuses were really a must, that would mean, no more affliction for me, time to become a mage-with-a-minion :S |
| 20:01.51 | Adys | gah |
| 20:01.53 | laurly | http://us.wowarmory.com/search.xml?searchQuery=Orpah%20Winfreys%20Book%20Club&searchType=guilds <--- thats US |
| 20:01.58 | Adys | foxlit, say adys |
| 20:02.14 | foxlit | adys adys adys adys adys adys adys adys adys adys adys adys adys adys adys adys adys adys adys adys adys adys adys adys adys adys adys adys adys adys adys adys adys adys adys adys adys adys adys adys |
| 20:02.20 | Amarande | (Anyone else ever get that feeling that destro lock is like being a mage with a minion?) |
| 20:02.40 | foxlit | laurly: maybe, maybe not. Point is, your test is clearly broken :) |
| 20:02.42 | Adys | again, Foxlit |
| 20:02.50 | foxlit | adys adys adys adys adys adys adys adys adys adys adys adys adys adys adys adys adys adys adys adys adys adys adys adys adys adys adys adys adys adys adys adys adys adys adys adys adys adys adys adys |
| 20:02.55 | Adys | works thanks |
| 20:02.58 | Ose | no, that's a frost mage with an elemental :P |
| 20:03.04 | Adys | Amarande: as a mage and a warlock, yes |
| 20:03.11 | laurly | yes but why does us.wowarmory.com not list it yet www.wowarmory.com does list it which one is right? |
| 20:03.21 | Amarande | exactly, which is why I don't really like the idea of going destro at any point |
| 20:03.25 | Amarande | if I wanted to do that, I would have rolled a mage :S |
| 20:03.37 | Adys | http://digg.com/health/Mayor_Don_t_Die_Or_You_Will_Be_Severely_Punished |
| 20:03.54 | laurly | foxlit it cant be broken it does work its just a quesiton of which armory sight is corect www. or us. |
| 20:03.55 | Amarande | though I still hope that the 51 point destro talent in WOTLK won't be ridiculous weaksauce like the 41 point talent is |
| 20:03.56 | foxlit | http://us.wowarmory.com/search.xml?searchQuery=Oprah+Winfreys+Book+Club&searchType=guilds ? |
| 20:04.14 | laurly | http://us.wowarmory.com/search.xml?searchQuery=Orpah%20Winfreys%20Book%20Club&searchType=guilds |
| 20:04.28 | laurly | No Search Results |
| 20:04.33 | foxlit | Click my link |
| 20:04.36 | Amarande | The 41 point affliction talent is fine. Affliction's all about DoT and UI is really a nice one. |
| 20:04.43 | Ose | can anyone help me with http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:User_exalted ? |
| 20:04.54 | Amarande | The 41 point Demo talent is fine, even if more popular than it should be. Demo's all about your pet so you get a super awesome one. |
| 20:05.29 | Amarande | The 41 point destro talent ... erm, yeah w/e |
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| 20:05.46 | Amarande | I still think it telling that the most popular destro spec appears to be 0/21/40. :) |
| 20:06.48 | laurly | Adys dont sd any of the guilds im going to have to wright a rescanner tomrrow morning. to triple check them against www.armory.com insted of us.armory.com |
| 20:06.54 | Adys | kk |
| 20:07.29 | laurly | i checked 90% of the ones i ran up until about 40 min ago so most should be right |
| 20:08.22 | laurly | im off see you guys in the morning. |
| 20:08.47 | Adys | i hate people who come up in bugzillas and feature requests / idea logs to say "Improve performance" "Make the application better"" |
| 20:09.15 | Adys | "fix bugs" "make it work" |
| 20:09.31 | Adys | "make it faster" stop whining :( |
| 20:10.10 | Amarande | Adys: frustration brings out the worst in all of us I guess |
| 20:10.24 | foxlit | Okay, so the issue is actually that the guild name in title is wrong |
| 20:10.28 | foxlit | Orpah vs Oprah |
| 20:10.51 | Adys | Amarande: There's a lot of dumbness in posts like that, and its not frustration |
| 20:11.10 | Amarande | well, at least in the "fix bugs" and "make it work" ones I suppose |
| 20:11.32 | Adys | http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/463/ http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/85/ |
| 20:11.34 | Amarande | a persistently buggy application leads to two states of mind, unless you're a Zen Master: |
| 20:11.48 | Amarande | a) you get totally fired up on the crash AAAGHH WTF WHY IS THIS STUPID THING SO BUGGY etc. |
| 20:11.48 | Adys | just two of those and thats the ubuntu ones |
| 20:11.55 | Adys | mozilla gets the worst ones sometimes |
| 20:12.01 | Ose | phixed |
| 20:12.27 | Amarande | or b) you spend hours trying to figure out what's going on, giving up what you planned to do with your evening, and then if you *still* can't figure it out I suppose then you might be entitled to angrily slam down one of those dumb posts. |
| 20:12.36 | Amarande | though I get the feeling more people fall into the less enlightened a) category. |
| 20:12.45 | foxlit | http://www.wowwiki.com/Guild:Skullcrusher_Premade_%28Durotan_US%29 |
| 20:12.51 | foxlit | "NOTE: This guild's name is not showing properly on the Armory. The guild leadership is aware of this and is working with Blizzard to fix the issue. Links to the guild profile from WoWWiki will not work until this issue is resolved." |
| 20:13.01 | Amarande | Durotan ... weird realm name |
| 20:13.06 | Amarande | you'd think it would be more likely to be Durotar |
| 20:13.10 | foxlit | http://www.wowwiki.com/Guild:WillRaidForFood_%28Aerie_Peak%29 wrong article name, existing guild |
| 20:13.24 | Adys | Amarande: http://www.wowwiki.com/Durotan |
| 20:13.34 | Adys | durotar is named after durotan |
| 20:14.08 | foxlit | http://www.wowwiki.com/Guild:BladesOfLight_%28Shadowsong_EU%29 existing guild, wrong page name |
| 20:14.28 | Amarande | anyway, I suppose I'm also not quite right to complain the way I did about "weaksauce 41 point destro talents" |
| 20:14.33 | Amarande | rather, what one should say is |
| 20:14.40 | foxlit | weaksauce treants, dammit |
| 20:15.03 | Amarande | "let's hope Blizzard makes the 51 point talent in Destro strong enough to befit its place in the talent tree" |
| 20:15.40 | Amarande | I can't say the 41 point one really is ... haven't tried destro myself, but there has to be a reason destro locks love a 21 point talent in Demo better than their 41 point talent |
| 20:17.30 | Amarande | not that I will be likely to go destro unless I get into a higher end raid guild at some point and have to. |
| 20:18.34 | Ose | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:OseScreenies7.jpg kek |
| 20:18.44 | Amarande | which was what made me wonder about that sunwell boss "requiring" 4 piece T6 bonuses in the first place ... if it did, it'd be a strong indication that affliction locks are a bad liability against Brutallus |
| 20:19.34 | foxlit | There hasn't been a DPS race boss for a while :( |
| 20:19.44 | foxlit | RoS being all too kind |
| 20:19.51 | Amarande | foxlit: Kaz'rogal? That's about the only one I can think of now |
| 20:20.15 | foxlit | The pitlord with the RoF that's a snoozefest? |
| 20:20.22 | Ose | what is {{ucfirst:}} for? |
| 20:20.27 | Ose | what is uc? |
| 20:20.30 | Amarande | I'm a little fuzzy about Kaz right now |
| 20:20.31 | foxlit | upper case |
| 20:20.38 | Ose | aah |
| 20:20.50 | Amarande | other than that he's the one with the super AoE mana bomber attack |
| 20:20.51 | foxlit | Ah, no, wrong one :) |
| 20:21.02 | foxlit | The doomguard with the mana drain |
| 20:21.19 | foxlit | But meh, that's a gimmick |
| 20:21.28 | Amarande | to the point that I've heard a raider or two consider excluding DPS Paladins from that part of their MH runs |
| 20:21.30 | foxlit | It's not _really_ close |
| 20:21.39 | foxlit | Ah, well, that's unrelated |
| 20:21.48 | foxlit | DPS paladins can't keep their mana |
| 20:21.53 | foxlit | So it's not that they can't do DPS |
| 20:21.56 | Amarande | (presumably because said paladin would be likely to blow up the MT) |
| 20:22.05 | foxlit | It's that they end up blowing up melee on ever mana drain from the third onward |
| 20:22.23 | Amarande | I guess there has to be some limitations on paladin meleers, though |
| 20:22.34 | foxlit | ench shamans are similar anyhow |
| 20:23.32 | Amarande | btw, does a target that blows up while themselves having 11,288+ hp at the time still die while blowing up? (max dmg being 11287 according to wiki) |
| 20:23.53 | foxlit | Archimonde could be so much cooler with a tighter timer |
| 20:24.02 | foxlit | And a debuff-triggered Air Burst |
| 20:24.16 | Amarande | ehh, I'm not sure I like the timer things |
| 20:24.30 | Amarande | Or for that matter, the fact that people QQ that people who found a creative way to use terrain in the Archi battle are "exploiting" |
| 20:24.33 | foxlit | Could have the supposed undead advance actually overrun your raid instead of that finger of death sillyness |
| 20:24.51 | foxlit | That terrain should be nerfed in a future patch, problem solved. |
| 20:24.53 | Ose | who knows ANYTHING about {{#switch}} ? |
| 20:25.00 | Amarande | some of these people seem to like the battles being reduced to puzzles more than actual fights :S |
| 20:25.01 | foxlit | #switch is awesome |
| 20:25.06 | foxlit | You should switch to #switch! |
| 20:25.07 | Ose | halp plixx |
| 20:25.10 | Amarande | as in, Blizzard determines beforehand what strategy they want people to use |
| 20:25.20 | Amarande | then anything else significantly different that works is an exploit and needs to be nerfed |
| 20:25.27 | foxlit | Yes! |
| 20:25.35 | foxlit | (Likewise, PvP trinkets need a nerf in Hyjal) |
| 20:25.40 | Amarande | so the purpose isn't to fight the good fight, but to puzzle out what Blizzard wanted people to do :P |
| 20:25.49 | foxlit | Indeed. |
| 20:25.55 | foxlit | There's reasoning behind that, too |
| 20:26.04 | Amarande | I'm still surprised that one quest in Terokkar hasn't been nerfed, too |
| 20:26.05 | foxlit | Each fight has an intended difficulty level |
| 20:26.21 | Amarande | fox: how is zealously holding the fights down to one viable strategy good, though? |
| 20:26.34 | Amarande | At least in 25-man, there's still a place for everyone |
| 20:26.49 | foxlit | It's not that you have one viable strategy |
| 20:26.57 | foxlit | There's a set of strategies that's not clearly abusive |
| 20:27.01 | Amarande | It was worse in Guild Wars, because Arena Net seemed to be getting that way too with Domain of Anguish and the like ... to the point that you had ten classes in the game, of which *four* get to go on DoA groups. |
| 20:27.44 | foxlit | But basically, if you can't do it without your crutch, chances are you'll be screwed when you advance to a fight which breaks your crutch, stalling raid progression |
| 20:28.09 | foxlit | Range Winterchill, for example, is a check that your healers know where their fast heal buttons are, and can target people relatively fast |
| 20:28.48 | Amarande | I suppose I tend to regard enrage timers and the such as poor policy though because frequently, due to them necessitating "X DPS or bust", they turn into gear checks |
| 20:29.06 | Amarande | I suppose there's a place in the world for gear checks, but they're still not quite as elegant as checks that test player skill :) |
| 20:29.10 | foxlit | You can abuse the PvP trinket to get out of Ice Block prematurely (because it's apparently a stun) -- but then, you end up screwed when you need fast healer responses on other fights. |
| 20:29.29 | Amarande | Consider say Rage vs. Kaz'rogal or another DPS race fight. |
| 20:29.57 | foxlit | What's a "player skill" check? |
| 20:30.48 | Amarande | fox: one where it matters more whether the players understand the proper methods and strategies than raw gear stats. |
| 20:30.55 | foxlit | Tight enrage timers keep DPS interested; every other fight is basically a healer/tank show |
| 20:30.57 | Amarande | such as Rage, where healer response is the checked key. |
| 20:32.00 | Amarande | OTOH consider a caster's POV towards say Kaz |
| 20:32.25 | Amarande | is it really about how good of a player they are (unless they're a complete retard in which case how did they get to Hyjal anyway?) or whether they could farm and stack enough +spell damage? |
| 20:32.59 | foxlit | They got to Hyjal because attunement was removed :) |
| 20:33.05 | Amarande | yeah, that's true lol |
| 20:33.11 | Amarande | we'll have a lot of complete scrubs attempting Hyjal now |
| 20:33.20 | foxlit | "zomgnerf Winterchill!" |
| 20:33.42 | Amarande | not that "progress" can really be measured anymore since they already started removing attunements |
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| 20:36.34 | Amarande | I suppose everyone starts out as some sort of scrub, though |
| 20:36.45 | Amarande | heck, I'm a bit worried I'm going to botch things like a noob when I get to heroics |
| 20:37.19 | Amarande | on my server, there aren't many groups for pre-70 instances, so a lot of people are basically thrown head first into heroics without even experience with the regular versions |
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| 20:40.50 | foxlit | "Let's get out of here! The obscure references are making me dizzy." |
| 20:42.11 | Amarande | LOL |
| 20:42.52 | Amarande | btw, I'm assuming, speaking of obscure references, that "The Lurker Below" is supposed to be a play on the "lurker above" mob from D&D |
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| 20:47.26 | foxlit | "You mean you're going to kick the crap out of me and steal it?" "No, FIRST we will challenge you to a children's card game, THEN we'll kick the crap out of you and kill it." |
| 20:47.38 | foxlit | s/kill/steal/ |
| 20:48.58 | foxlit | "In the future, card games will be played on motorbikes!" |
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| 21:00.20 | Fisker- | Dotted er til mænd |
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| 21:00.33 | Dotted | ja |
| 21:06.49 | Fisker- | :I |
| 21:07.00 | Fisker- | the european starcraft 2 domain redirects to the wow trial :P |
| 21:07.12 | Dotted | heh |
| 21:07.15 | Fisker- | slackers |
| 21:11.38 | Ose | [[Elfi del sangue]] : what? |
| 21:12.13 | Ose | http://www.wowwiki.com/Elfi_del_sangue |
| 21:12.22 | Ose | lament of the highborne? |
| 21:14.56 | Dotted | lololol Fisker- "Har ikke skiftet trusser i 2 uger, min *isse lugter a gorgonzola" :D:D::D:DD:D:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::D |
| 21:16.47 | Fisker- | :D? |
| 21:17.02 | Dotted | Wulff's Magasin |
| 21:17.11 | Fisker- | do not want |
| 21:17.20 | Dotted | do want |
| 21:17.41 | Ose | ... |
| 21:17.56 | Dotted | Ose? |
| 21:18.12 | Ose | ... @ what you said |
| 21:18.17 | Dotted | Ose? |
| 21:18.24 | Ose | ja? |
| 21:18.28 | Dotted | Ose? |
| 21:18.45 | Ose | Ose mose pose |
| 21:18.51 | Fisker- | Ose? |
| 21:19.18 | Fisker- | i like where this thread is going |
| 21:19.30 | Ose | -.- |
| 21:20.39 | Dotted | Fisker- how does one get a much higher score than one else with a much shorter song in AudioSurf with the same character? |
| 21:20.40 | Ose | you can't kill the metal... |
| 21:21.02 | Fisker- | Dotted hax |
| 21:21.05 | Fisker- | or skills |
| 21:21.10 | Fisker- | or luck |
| 21:21.20 | Dotted | extreme luch then |
| 21:21.21 | Fisker- | If he's using the pointman character then you can get some sick shit |
| 21:21.31 | Dotted | its all mono |
| 21:22.01 | Fisker- | moar skills than you |
| 21:22.03 | Fisker- | or another song |
| 21:22.10 | Fisker- | what song is it? |
| 21:22.31 | Dotted | headhunterz vs wildstyles - blame it on the music |
| 21:22.41 | Dotted | err |
| 21:22.45 | Dotted | *wildstylez |
| 21:22.50 | Dotted | stupid Z's |
| 21:23.38 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 21:23.42 | Fisker- | it's a way different track than yours |
| 21:23.54 | Dotted | no |
| 21:24.00 | Fisker- | yes it is |
| 21:24.03 | Dotted | the beginning and the end have been cut |
| 21:24.04 | Fisker- | are you blind or what? |
| 21:24.07 | Dotted | look closer you nab |
| 21:25.07 | Fisker- | You're expecting me to believe that aproximately 1/5 of your track is only 4/5 of the actual track? |
| 21:25.09 | Fisker- | Does not compute |
| 21:25.54 | Dotted | mine is the full version, from vinyl - while the other is shorter version from a mix or a radio edit |
| 21:26.37 | Fisker- | The curves disagree |
| 21:26.58 | Fisker- | It doesn't matter though |
| 21:27.05 | Fisker- | Different track = different properties |
| 21:27.28 | Fisker- | length isn't the only consideration in regards to score |
| 21:28.44 | Dotted | Added separate volume controls for menu music, game music, and sound effects |
| 21:28.46 | Dotted | FINALLY |
| 21:28.58 | Dotted | Added "resend score" button in the event of a timeout |
| 21:28.59 | Dotted | FINALLY |
| 21:29.47 | Dotted | lololololololololololol |
| 21:29.55 | Dotted | seizure warning >_> |
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| 21:34.40 | Fisker- | lol how stupid |
| 21:34.53 | Fisker- | didn't get clean finish because it hit blocks after the song stopped |
| 21:36.29 | Dotted | lolol |
| 21:36.50 | Dotted | btw |
| 21:36.57 | Dotted | Ghost is win |
| 21:37.06 | Dotted | the thingy Nine Inch Nails made |
| 21:37.56 | Kaso | http://tartarus.org/~martin/essays/burkequote.html |
| 21:38.14 | Kaso | This is an interesting read |
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| 21:49.52 | Sandwichman2448 | Worldtaker got it again... |
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| 21:52.49 | Sandwichman2448 | Ouch. |
| 21:53.42 | kd3 | I dunno what came over me being lenient. he lies have been annoying me for a while. should've infinibanned him. oh well |
| 21:54.36 | Sandwichman2448 | Did you read the lies this time? It was funny. |
| 21:58.53 | foxlit | zzz, zzz, zzz :( |
| 21:59.06 | Amarande | hmm, looking over these raid instance maps is for some reason making me want to design maps for Doom again |
| 22:04.09 | Sandwichman2448 | Doom eh? |
| 22:06.41 | Amarande | Yeah, used to make quite a number of maps for that |
| 22:08.22 | Fisker- | foxlit |
| 22:08.26 | Fisker- | are you so 1337 at php? |
| 22:08.38 | foxlit | > u! |
| 22:08.42 | Fisker- | U! |
| 22:09.34 | Fisker- | but srsly? |
| 22:10.45 | foxlit | I'm happy with my level of proficiency at php :) |
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| 22:11.19 | Fisker- | Do you know any documentation when you pass some kind of variable |
| 22:11.31 | Fisker- | like http://url/index.php&lolwut=true |
| 22:11.36 | Fisker- | How do i get lolwut? .o |
| 22:11.37 | Fisker- | :o |
| 22:13.03 | leoeris | lol wut?? |
| 22:13.08 | Fisker- | lolwut! |
| 22:13.27 | Fisker- | you must know! |
| 22:15.14 | Fisker- | FOR MY OWN SINISTER PURPOSES |
| 22:15.19 | foxlit | http://dk.php.net/reserved.variables |
| 22:15.47 | Fisker- | fukken awesome |
| 22:18.26 | Sandwichman2448 | Should there be a 'What WoWWiki is not' page? It would save ragestorm from yelling 'This is not a forum' all the time. |
| 22:19.04 | Sandwichman2448 | We have the WotLK one... |
| 22:20.28 | Sandwichman2448 | Eh. I'll be bold. |
| 22:23.44 | Fisker- | noes |
| 22:23.49 | Fisker- | this is actually a bit hard |
| 22:23.56 | Dotted | Fisker- its called querystring |
| 22:24.26 | Fisker- | I already got it |
| 22:24.35 | Fisker- | But this is using some other php file |
| 22:24.37 | Fisker- | as well |
| 22:24.47 | Fisker- | And the function i need to change is in that other file |
| 22:25.03 | Fisker- | But if i use it in the other php file it doesn't do shit |
| 22:25.08 | Fisker- | Only does it in the "main php" files |
| 22:28.12 | Fisker- | you crashed vim! |
| 22:28.13 | Fisker- | you bastard |
| 22:29.23 | Fisker- | weird |
| 22:29.27 | Fisker- | i can't even kill the process |
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| 22:41.01 | Fisker- | ah |
| 22:41.03 | Fisker- | think i found it now |
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| 22:46.58 | Fisker- | hmm |
| 22:47.11 | Fisker- | i don't have to have an else right? |
| 22:48.22 | Fisker- | DOH |
| 22:48.38 | Fisker- | well perhaps not |
| 22:48.42 | Fisker- | but i'm mixing some stuff i see :P |
| 22:49.12 | Fisker- | oh |
| 22:49.28 | Fisker- | perhaps i shouldn't declare the variable :P |
| 22:49.34 | Fisker- | atleast not with a set value |
| 22:51.28 | Fisker- | damn |
| 22:51.29 | Fisker- | i still suck |
| 22:54.24 | Fisker- | finally |
| 22:54.27 | Fisker- | LEARN2SPELL |
| 23:04.42 | Sandwichman2448 | Did it jiggle? |
| 23:04.59 | kd3 | more like I just poked a dead person with a stick |
| 23:05.15 | Fisker- | well almost |
| 23:06.30 | Sandwichman2448 | Did it die? |
| 23:06.44 | kd3 | firefox thinks the server doesn't exist |
| 23:07.53 | Dotted | BTW Fisker- HE DIDNT EVEN HAVE Stealth |
| 23:08.02 | Dotted | lol capsed |
| 23:09.25 | Sandwichman2448 | Did wikia trip on a plug? |
| 23:10.19 | Fisker- | weird |
| 23:10.32 | Fisker- | for some reason it's not parsing the value when i tell it to :( |
| 23:11.05 | Sandwichman2448 | Hey it changed, the new page window says 2000 gnomes in the stead of locusts. |
| 23:11.22 | Sandwichman2448 | Much more WoW. |
| 23:16.33 | Sandwichman2448 | sorry. |
| 23:17.38 | Sandwichman2448 | Well, I was bold: http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Sandwichman2448/What_WoWWiki_is_not |
| 23:19.25 | Fisker- | damn |
| 23:19.29 | Fisker- | this makes no sense QQ |
| 23:19.37 | Fisker- | which is all your fault |
| 23:20.53 | Fisker- | HALP foxlit HALP |
| 23:21.11 | foxlit | moo |
| 23:21.14 | Fisker- | if i'm constructing a url using index.php?variable='.$variable |
| 23:21.17 | Fisker- | Wouldn't that be right? |
| 23:21.41 | Fisker- | I just get index.php?variable= instead of for example index.php?variable=something |
| 23:21.43 | Fisker- | :< |
| 23:22.13 | foxlit | $variable is blank? |
| 23:22.20 | Fisker- | shouldn't be |
| 23:23.08 | Fisker- | I use to pass some sorting |
| 23:23.19 | Fisker- | If i use 1 i sort after some criteria and if i use 0 i use another criteria |
| 23:23.21 | Fisker- | those works |
| 23:23.47 | Fisker- | But i want to make a link so i can change dynamically between the both |
| 23:24.06 | Fisker- | But when i use the same variable there it doesn't print the option i had |
| 23:24.41 | foxlit | php.net/var_dump |
| 23:24.44 | Amarande | the Blizzard forum avatars for warrior gnomes are creepy :S |
| 23:25.06 | Sandwichman2448 | Yup. |
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| 23:32.04 | foxlit | "Velen will pay for his crimes" wonder which! |
| 23:34.46 | kd3 | o_O; |
| 23:41.56 | Fisker- | PTR up yet? |
| 23:43.28 | kd3 | neg. soonish |
| 23:44.12 | Fisker- | NOES |
| 23:44.15 | Fisker- | download not authories |
| 23:44.18 | Fisker- | wtf |
| 23:44.21 | Fisker- | less drugs please |
| 23:44.46 | kd3 | lol. go yell at whoever runs the euro tracker |
| 23:45.15 | Fisker- | :( |
| 23:45.19 | Fisker- | We could yell at |Pixel| instead |
| 23:45.24 | Fisker- | also |
| 23:45.24 | Amarande | how does PTR up/down time work? |
| 23:45.31 | Amarande | like, do they only have it up during certain hours or something? |
| 23:45.38 | Fisker- | I didn't know the europeans had anything to do with the PTR's anyways |
| 23:46.30 | |Pixel| | hm ? |
| 23:48.20 | Fisker- | Just the new PTR patch that can't be downloaded because it's not authorized |
| 23:48.44 | Dotted | Fisker- only 5k more and i beat him \o/ |
| 23:49.05 | Fisker- | just report him |
| 23:49.05 | Fisker- | :P |
| 23:49.11 | Dotted | did it |
| 23:49.13 | Dotted | already |
| 23:49.16 | Dotted | obviously |
| 23:49.30 | Dotted | since im using ironmode and everything |
| 23:49.41 | Dotted | guess i just need to figure out how to get match 21 |
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| 23:53.08 | Fisker- | it's impossible! |
| 23:53.20 | Fisker- | Unless you got a pretty good track |
| 23:53.30 | Fisker- | I've tried several times and i'll always be a couple of blocks short |
| 23:53.49 | Fisker- | might work on pointman tracks though as you don't have to dodge greys |
| 23:53.59 | Fisker- | You'd need to find one of those color thingies |
| 23:54.35 | Fisker- | btw Dotted our teacher sucks |
| 23:54.41 | Sandwichman2448 | [[Hunter loot]] |
| 23:55.06 | Fisker- | He wanted us to hurry up so we were done before school was over |
| 23:55.20 | Fisker- | And then we got crap grades because we "didn't say enough" |
| 23:55.23 | Fisker- | because we hurried |
| 23:55.23 | Fisker- | wee |
| 23:55.34 | Fisker- | And people who didn't even show up still passed |
| 23:55.48 | Dotted | ollololol |
| 23:55.53 | Fisker- | Infact i could just as well have stayed home as i barely got to show or tell about anything and thus got 4 |
| 23:55.54 | Dotted | where do you go to school? |
| 23:55.59 | Fisker- | Ringsted :o |
| 23:56.00 | Fisker- | EUC |
| 23:56.01 | Amarande | heh, people not showing up and still passing school |
| 23:56.06 | Amarande | I think we can blame the government for that on both sides |
| 23:56.16 | Fisker- | Nah the teacher is just a fag |
| 23:56.20 | Fisker- | Good thing he's retiring |
| 23:56.30 | Fisker- | Although i hope to give him an early retirement |
| 23:56.39 | Dotted | datamatiker? |
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| 23:56.44 | Amarande | the conservatives have the whole "no child left behind" thing, and some kids are just total scrubs so they have to be boosted artificially so the schools don't look bad |
| 23:56.45 | Fisker- | datafagtekniker :o |
| 23:56.49 | Dotted | fail |
| 23:56.53 | Adys | DIE DOTTED PLZ |
| 23:56.55 | Fisker- | yeah Amarande |
| 23:57.02 | Dotted | Adys? |
| 23:57.08 | Amarande | the liberals believe in welfare, so they have to give the total scrub kids good enough grades so they can actually get hired somewhere and not raise the government budget :P |
| 23:57.10 | Adys | Sorry I was bored |
| 23:57.19 | Fisker- | There was this guy who totally failed our graduating exam or whatever you can call it |
| 23:57.29 | Dotted | lol owned |
| 23:57.40 | Fisker- | But they didn't want to pay for a new exam just for that single guy |
| 23:57.42 | Fisker- | So they passed him |
| 23:57.47 | Sandwichman2448 | LOL |
| 23:57.58 | Sandwichman2448 | Schooltasctic |
| 23:58.03 | Fisker- | oh yeah |
| 23:58.05 | Sandwichman2448 | ... |
| 23:58.11 | Dotted | Amarande and the socialists :P? |
| 23:58.14 | pcj | graduating exam? |
| 23:58.14 | Fisker- | So atleast i know i'll be safe if i fail as well :P |
| 23:58.17 | Amarande | Dotted: those are liberals |
| 23:58.18 | pcj | why not just fail him... |
| 23:58.24 | Fisker- | pcj to save money |
| 23:58.25 | Dotted | ehhhhhhhhhh |
| 23:58.34 | pcj | so what's the point of schools |
| 23:58.40 | pcj | you could cut those out and save a lot more |
| 23:58.44 | Sandwichman2448 | 2 LRN |
| 23:58.55 | Fisker- | Well then the school wouldn't be earning any money :< |
| 23:59.01 | Sandwichman2448 | So me can be smrtz. |
| 23:59.26 | Fisker- | It's the shcool that rigs the results a bit, not the government :P |
| 23:59.27 | Amarande | welfare is a reason why I vote Republican :S |
| 23:59.38 | Dotted | Amarande howcome socialists and liberals in denmark are against each other in denmark? if they are the same they should cooperate no? |
| 23:59.54 | Dotted | wow double denmark :D |
| 23:59.57 | Amarande | Dotted: same reason demons and devils in D&D hate each other? if they're evil, they should cooperate no? lol |
