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00:24.33AdysIE7 says: DO NOT WANT
00:24.34Adyshttp://png.browsershots.org/c9d221ca0117332db992333b6ef404a8.png
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00:32.35Bibidoesn't work with firefox either
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00:40.22Adysbetter than this tho
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01:25.46KirkburnAfternoon
01:26.51pcjevening
01:27.44DuTempetetell mr hotpants to log in :P
01:29.49KirkburnCheeky
01:29.54Kirkburn(literally)
01:30.02Kirkburnpcj, checked out beta.wowwiki ?
01:30.19pcjI don't like the skin colors
01:31.15KirkburnYeah, I did say ignore that
01:31.29Kirkburnbesides, it looks a bit weird as it's got some wowwiki.css on it too :P
01:31.44pcjI do like how it handles login
01:31.55pcjbut i don't really care for them unnecessarily hiding personal links
01:32.31KirkburnUnderstandable, since I know we edit them
01:32.41KirkburnShould still be able to though
01:33.00pcjThat will take some testing
01:33.24KirkburnThrowing this out there - if the default for anyone on wowwiki was changed to monaco wowwiki, would people be okay with that?
01:34.13pcjI thought that was the plan
01:34.13Kirkburn(as a one-time change, to make sure we get people straight onto the new skin)
01:34.24pcjIt's definitely a lot better than quartz
01:34.49KirkburnWell, I'm saying assuming they've changed their settings at some point, but have set it back to wowwiki
01:35.14DuTempeteyeah, I don't think it would be an issue, *if* there were a customised skin specifically for wowwiki
01:35.23Kirkburn(I think it's a separate setting to people who have never changed from the default)
01:35.26DuTempeteotherwise folks'll get bitchy
01:35.32KirkburnThere absolutely will be :)
01:35.35DuTempeteeven if it's monaco gaming
01:35.53DuTempeteSince, you know, this isn't The Matrix :P
01:36.07KirkburnI want a version of the monaco wowwiki skin to be adopted as a alternative anyway
01:36.46KirkburnMonaco Gaming is very much more Monaco Tech :P
01:37.01DuTempeteyeah...
01:37.02KirkburnTotally inappropriate for fantasy mmos :P
01:37.17DuTempeteHrmm... wasn't I the one that said that, originally? :P
01:37.34KirkburnPossibly, possibly :)
01:37.40DuTempete<3
01:37.44Kirkburn(it's been passed on an discussed)
01:38.02KirkburnYou can also personalize the sidebar
01:38.40DuTempetewhat exactly is different about that skin, anyway? (you might have already said, but remind me)
01:38.58KirkburnWe'll obviously start off with many of the links from the Main Page as cascading links on the sidebar, but users can create their own nav stuff
01:39.07KirkburnDuTempete, to monobook?
01:39.15DuTempeteto the rest of monaco
01:39.31KirkburnGaming monaco to the others?
01:39.50KirkburnIt's just colour scheme
01:39.58DuTempetethat's what I figured
01:40.01KirkburnNothing else
01:40.15DuTempeteit was a bit silly of them to call it "gaming" in the first place
01:40.29DuTempetehrmm... I'm in th emood for champagne...
01:40.37KirkburnAnother great skin is http://en.marveldatabase.com/Main_Page
01:40.43KirkburnDuTempete, it was, we know :P
01:41.10KirkburnWe've got a dinner with the New York later to brainstorm some more
01:41.14DuTempeteoooh I like that one...
01:41.37DuTempetethe New York what?
01:41.58pcjPolice Department
01:42.05KirkburnSo many great ideas, and they're so enthusiastic about everything
01:42.14KirkburnThey are the ArmchairGM and social tools guys
01:42.54DuTempeteoh, the new york office
01:43.07KirkburnOh whoops ... "New York team"
01:43.52KirkburnWhen I say we've got lots of ideas, a lot of it is little tweaks and changes to improve upon Halopedia
01:44.25KirkburnSeriously, cannot stress enough how much traffic (of many kinds) that brought to the wiki
01:44.43KirkburnNumber of screenshots submitted, for example, skyrocketed
01:45.29KirkburnThey have way over 1,000 polls created now too
01:46.05KirkburnOne thing we've noticed is that that *may* require a few new policy bits, but a lot of it can run itself
01:46.50KirkburnI reckon the blogs may be popular with the RP crowd
01:47.15DuTempeteyeah, polls... those are soooo useful...
01:47.24KirkburnPolls and quizzes, I mean
01:47.30KirkburnQuizzes for the lore crowd
01:49.01DuTempeteThose lore people scare me.
01:49.43pcjkill them all
01:50.34DuTempeteooh, yeah, I was getting the champagne out of the fridge...
01:51.20Dottedlolololololololol Fisker- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plytRiZLxQ8
01:53.32KirkburnAnyone got ideas for "fun" quiz/image game stuff?
01:53.54DuTempete...
01:53.55KirkburnNothing too involved, just little games people can partake in for points :)
01:55.23KirkburnTo give one of my ideas, one of those games where an image split into blocks that you have to slide around into place, with points for finishing/knowing who it is
01:56.00Kirkburn(And yes, I know our demographic is generally 20-50)
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02:23.57KirkburnWell anyway, I suggest people have a think about it and please send me /any/ feedback
02:24.13KirkburnI absolutely want the best fit of social tools for our wiki
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02:24.56KirkburnA lot of it is not so much about getting new users, or the hardcore users, but about giving the brief visitors more reason to stick around
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02:25.21KirkburnThere's so many players out there who just read us, I want to be able to interact with them :)
02:27.43Adyshttp://ln.hixie.ch/?start=1190803943&count=1
02:27.46Adysamazing shit
02:29.38KirkburnI'm off out for dinner
02:29.47KirkburnBack soon, pong Adys, buh-bye :P
02:29.55Adyskk :P
02:29.57KirkburnWell, by soon, I mean in a couple of hours
02:29.57Adysenjoy
02:30.15Kirkburn|afkHmm, going to hibernate laptop
02:47.28Sky2042_afkjust missed him ;_;
02:52.25Sky2042_afkTekkub: beta.wow is going to be reskinned with WoWWiki theme, so the orange is probably going away.
02:52.38Tekkubthank god
02:52.48Tekkubit was drilling into the backs of my eyes
02:52.53pcjlol
02:52.54Sky2042_afkme too
02:53.05Sky2042_afkthe bright yellow on dark blue doesn't go well.
02:53.07Tekkuba dark yellow/orange would be okey
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03:16.23Dottedhttp://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Talk:Via_Crucis&diff=0&oldid=632957 <- lolwut Sky2042_afk?
03:16.48Dottedno sense makes no sense
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07:49.09laurlywhy do we have a beta wiki?
07:50.14Sky2042_afkwell, wikia adopted us, and is finally getting around to integrating wowwiki into wikia.
07:50.45laurlyare we keeping that layout then?
07:51.10Sky2042_afklayout: yes. coloring: reskinning to WoWWiki.
07:51.41laurlythat the loot gods....  that mustered yellow reminds me of some band from the 80's was it skidrow?
07:52.08Sky2042_afkthat?...
07:52.12Sky2042_afkthe loot gods?
07:53.09laurlyyeah im made at the loot gods. didnt drop my T5 chest last night
07:53.44Sky2042_afkah
07:53.51laurlyand here i had already checked the dkp site and planed on starting bid with 5 over the max of everyone that could have bid against me.
07:54.35laurlymade <> mad
07:54.58laurlyhmm did wow webstats get posted
07:55.45laurlycrap no
07:56.23laurlySky2042_afk i have a mission for you.
07:56.34Sky2042_afkoh?
07:57.15laurlymake up quest and npc pages. just dummy ones put them in a sandbox on laurlybot if you want.  use those tables and what ever links you want.  so i can see how you want it done.
07:57.39laurlyit will save time as then i wont have to try and relearn and learn what i never did how to make wiki tables that look decent
07:58.20laurlyi talked to kirkburn he likes the stop button idea :)
07:59.15Sky2042_afkoh, i do too. =]
07:59.48laurlyyou guys will have to lock it so that only admins can edit the page i dont want any nub stoping the bot.  and you guys will have to email me if anything goes wrong so i know if im not around.
08:00.25laurlyi dont check wiki from work and i dont check it when im at my boyfriends.
08:00.54Sky2042_afkwell, most of the buttons on WP just link to Special:Blockip. but if you want to make a locked button, sounds good to me =)
08:01.47laurlyblockip wouldnt work well since the bot is going to be modular. guild bot could fuck up stop that but you still want quest and npc bot running and its the same ip
08:02.18Sky2042_afkah
08:02.59laurlymodular is better the old bot got confusing becouse it was so big.  this one isnt 1% of the code the old one was. and im sliming down the db as well.
08:04.04laurlywhats grate is i have done it all before so i already know what to do.  brb need to go argue with armory now
08:06.34Sky2042_afklaurly: would you mind adding it to [[User:Sky2042/todo]] for me?
08:10.10laurlydone
08:11.12Sky2042_afkthanks.
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08:14.06laurlymake sure everthing is include how you want quests and items npcs displayed.
08:14.15laurlyi can turn it into pat template from there.
08:16.56laurlyshould i add the recodeing wishlist to village pump
08:18.41Sky2042_afklaurly: hmm.
08:20.13laurlyjoy armory just crashed firefox
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08:27.17Sky2042_afklol
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09:14.37Fisker-you've opened a new tab
09:14.40Fisker-motherfucker
09:19.07laurlyi love php
09:38.23laurlyintesrting when the music is to loud to here the phone ring.
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10:05.20GiuggiI'd like to join the game, but is it expensive?
10:07.22Fisker-15$ a month
10:10.22Giuggitks, in euro and in Italy I discovered just now is 12,99 per month
10:13.04Giuggi...and does exist a MMORPG with no violence..
10:13.18Fisker-The Sims Online perhaps :)
10:13.35Fisker-There's also a trial on: http://teaser.wow-europe.com/ if you're interested
10:13.46nfsnobodythere's a trial of the sims online on wow-europe.com? :o
10:13.48nfsnobodythis I have to see!
10:13.49nfsnobody:P
10:13.49Fisker-if you then buy the game you can upgrade the trial account and you get a free month
10:13.55Fisker-oh u nfsnobody
10:14.04nfsnobodyoh me nfsnobody :)
10:16.10Giuggithanks!
10:18.25GiuggiI found also Pirates of carribean online and other Disney stuff
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11:49.34laurlydam the bot runs so much faster in php.
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12:01.58Fisker-i wanted the white snow laurly
12:04.26laurlydont pee on it and it wont turn yellow
12:07.17Kalrothit might be beer, you better eat it
12:09.48laurlypoor armory the bot is being so good.
12:11.41laurlyhate testing siting and watching it run is booring
12:14.06laurlyhmm wonder if i can remember the password for laurlybots wiki account.
12:15.49laurlyhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Guild:M%C3%B8%C3%B8%C3%B1_G%C3%BC%C3%A5rd_%28Shattered_Halls_US%29
12:16.01laurlywhat the *ell is that?
12:16.25Fisker-report it :P
12:16.45Fisker-They're not allowed to have those letters in guild names either i believe :P
12:16.51laurlydont need to bot caught it.
12:17.36laurly<PROTECTED>
12:18.00laurlylinux really didnt like the letters i was like wtf!!
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12:38.15Fisker-Is an arrow's DPS increase different from one gained from the bow?
12:38.21Fisker-Here i'm thinking about the legendary bow
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13:01.27Kalrothelmargols connection seems to be a tad unstable.
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13:09.20laurlyand hes gone again.
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13:11.27laurlywb elmargol
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13:17.13Fisker-Du er et sygt menneske Dotted
13:17.30Dottedold news is old
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13:40.08laurlycrap it works.
13:41.07Dottedholy crap send me a copy
13:41.12Dotted:p
13:43.52laurlyhttp://www.wowwiki.com/User:Laurlybot/Sandbox/npc woot
13:45.13laurlyhmm need to go find the password for laurlybots wiki account.
13:48.15pcjnice laurly
13:49.44laurly{{Speedydelete|This guild has gone to the dark side}}
13:49.55laurlyadded a list of funny reasons to keep the admins entertained
13:52.47laurlyhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Guild:Almost_Famous_%28Aerie_Peak_EU%29
13:52.49laurlyfirst guild down.
13:53.03pcjnice
13:53.14pcjgood work
13:53.28pcjthe bot shouldn't delete the whole article tho imo
13:53.34pcjerr
13:53.50pcjah it lost some on &
13:54.13laurly?
13:54.18pcjhttp://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Guild:Almost_Famous_%28Aerie_Peak_EU%29&curid=108990&diff=1240127&oldid=1119786
13:54.25pcjbreaks at Romulo & Julianne
13:54.33winkiller83MB mysql3 dumps ftl
13:55.40laurlyhmm back to sand box testing
14:11.05laurlytrim(rawurlencode(htmlspecialchars_decode($form_values[$i][1])))  joy fixed it
14:12.41pcjlol
14:14.46laurlyhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Guild:Almost_Famous_%28Aerie_Peak_EU%29
14:14.49laurlyok hows that?
14:15.36pcjnice, good job laurly
14:16.53p30nlaurly: cool stuff
14:16.57p30nhow do i get my guild there ?
14:16.59p30n:)
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14:19.09pcjget your guild where
14:19.38p30non wowwiki
14:19.42p30nlaurly's prject
14:19.55pcjuhh laurly is using her bot to SD the guilds
14:20.00p30noh
14:20.10p30nso it should like be there already? :o
14:20.12pcjyou can create your guild in the guild namespace
14:20.25pcjsee http://www.wowwiki.com/WW:GUILD
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14:29.20laurlylaurly is not making a bot to scan all of armory and create every guild.... adys would have a heart attack.
14:29.48Adyswhat the fuck of a kind of idea is that
14:30.03laurlytalk to p30n i think he thought thats what i was doing.
14:30.13Adyslol
14:30.30laurlyhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Guild:Almost_Famous_%28Aerie_Peak_EU%29 bot works just testing it adys
14:32.53Kasolaurly whats with the random delete reason
14:33.56Adysits because aerie peak europe sucks and we dont need a delete reason
14:34.18Kasodont get me wrong i enjoy the hitchhiker's quote
14:35.05laurlyfigured you guys needed to be entertained :)
14:35.21laurlyand delete this crap is just booring.
14:35.30Kaso"Saitek - Vibrating Headset - £19.99"
14:35.43KasoWhy exactly would i want my headset to vibrate
14:36.22KasoI love the product features
14:36.29Kaso*Adjustable Microphone
14:36.38Kaso*vibration enhances gaming
14:39.22p30nim sorry i jsut didnt know what u were doing
14:39.29p30nso what is the bot doing really then laurly  ?
14:39.40Adys[15:35:43] <+Kaso> Why exactly would i want my headset to vibrate
14:39.52Adysto put it in your underwear like some do with phones
14:39.53p30nAdys: so he can sit on it and feel fappy
14:40.09Kasohey! Im not that perverted
14:40.13p30n:(
14:40.19Adysyet
14:41.17laurly1. scans guilds cat for all the guilds in wiki
14:41.24p30nok
14:41.28p30nfor what purpose?
14:41.35laurly2. checks the hisory for a date when the page was created to be sure its > 10 days ago armory sucks.
14:41.51laurly3. goes and checks armory to see if the guild still exists if it doesnt it SD's it to give adys work.
14:42.00p30noh kk :p
14:42.40p30nim sorry but im a wiki noob, i seem to only use the knowledge there, not put any in to it, anywho, how should i go about putting my own guild in the Category:Guilds
14:42.45laurlyshes got 181 that she errored out im reruning them as it goes to be sure they really dont exist. either way thats a lot of dead pages.
14:43.16laurlywell you have to tag it as a guild its part of the requirements that automaticly puts it in the categorie so ppl can find your guild page.
14:43.46p30nwell i dont even know how to make a page there :(
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14:45.30laurlymake your life easy copy someone elses and edit it.
14:47.10p30nhehe ok
14:47.25p30nis there a complete-noob-FAG-for-wiki-editing page too ?
14:48.09Kasoyou mean like
14:48.09Kasohttp://www.wowwiki.com/Help:Editing ?
14:48.57`-FISKER_Q\i haet yuo Adys
14:49.06Adysstfu noob
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14:50.11Fisker-i haet mean alliance :(
14:51.47equiraptorI hate mean people.
14:52.07pcjit's because you're a belf, get used to it
14:52.15p30nKaso: thanks, just what I was looking for
14:52.16Kasoi haet caek
14:57.16Adyswhats with companies naming their touchscreen "TouchMe"
14:57.51pcjto make perverted french people buy their product
14:58.35p30nfrench dont know english
14:59.01Kasoyah, french dont know english!
14:59.15Adys:P
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15:00.02KasoI love how more often than not adys will correct my english
15:00.23Adyscapitalize languages dude
15:00.41Osei speek the english wery good, yes?
15:00.50Ose:P
15:00.59Kasoand i should've capataliSed "Adys"
15:01.18AdysLe franssais ye le parle três mieu que vous
15:01.21Adyset je vous merde
15:01.51Kasoi find it amusing i mis-spelt capitalise when trying to correct the spelling of it
15:01.56Kasoi'll just go kill myselg now
15:02.24Adysi see what you did thar
15:02.54KasoI need to get the spell checker for xchat working
15:03.05AdysOS?
15:03.17Kasowindows
15:03.27Adysoh
15:03.29Adyscant help sorry
15:03.35Kasoim currently using a free xchat build, but the dictionary you need to pay for :<
15:03.42Adyswut
15:03.46Adyswhere did you dl it from
15:04.43Kasoi got my version from http://www.silverex.org/news/
15:04.59Adysah k good
15:05.09Kasothe http://www.xchat.org/windows/ version is shareware for windows
15:05.26Adysyes
15:05.33Kasosucky >.<
15:06.00KasoI might just switch back to linux for my full time OS
15:07.51Fisker-HEJ
15:08.26Adysdo so kaso
15:08.35Adysjust to piss fiskshit off
15:08.36Fisker-do not so :(
15:08.48Fisker-jealous Adys is jeaaaaaaaaaaaaaalooooooooous
15:08.49Adyssee my point
15:09.11Adysjealous of wut
15:09.26Fisker-of my mother
15:09.35Fisker-or moar liek your mother
15:10.44Fisker-it's actually very health
15:10.44Fisker-y
15:11.50Adyshttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=284543
15:11.54Adysnow die Fisker-
15:13.13Fisker-i cannot die
15:13.55laurlyKaso i have been thinking about it to
15:14.05Adyshttp://ln.hixie.ch/?start=1201080691&count=1 Fisker-
15:14.35Osewhoa! beta skin looks funky
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15:15.29Kasolaurly, what?
15:16.03pcjlinux
15:16.17laurlyim bot testing so still scroll up reading
15:23.10laurlyKil'Jaeden<>Kil'jaeden bugger.
15:24.08pcjheh
15:52.41Fisker-what about it Adys ?
15:52.49Adysread it
15:53.08Fisker-i did
15:53.17Adysthen go hate microsoft
15:53.22Fisker-His point is invalid
15:53.32Fisker-also they changed the thing he seems to be ranting about
15:53.45Adysthen his point is not invalid
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15:53.59Adysif its actually valid enough to make them change it
15:54.15Fisker-No
15:54.39Adysyes, yes it i
15:54.40Adysis
15:54.42Fisker-no it's not
15:54.50Fisker-I could say the same for people saying "nerf warlocks"
15:54.55Fisker-and then in the next patch warlocks were nerfed
15:54.59Fisker-Then their point was valid!
15:55.11Adysvalid enough for blizzard
15:55.16Fisker-But they didn't have a point regardlessly, so no it wasn't changed because someone made a post that said "nerf warlocks"
15:55.53Adysit was not changed because someone made a post that said nerf warlocks, it was changed because tons of people agreed that they needed to be nerfed
15:56.08Fisker-Perhaps
15:56.08Adysso blizzard actually looks into it and decides
15:56.20Fisker-That doesn't make a non-existing point exist and valid
15:56.39Adysand dont compare apples and oranges please, blizzard is not microsoft (thank fuck)
15:56.50Fisker-That doesn't really matter
15:57.04Fisker-Infact i'll dumb it down for you then
15:57.13Fisker-Lets say it's midnight, and you know i'm going to bed
15:57.14Adysdont bother :p
15:57.16Fisker-You say "Go to bed"
15:57.18Fisker-I go to bed
15:57.25Fisker-Did i go to bed because you said so?
15:57.33Fisker-No i went to bed because that's when i go to bed
15:58.28Adyswth are you talking about lol
15:58.45Fisker-You want me to dumb it down another notch?
15:58.56Adysif its time for you to go to bed, "Go to bed" is valid in your case
15:59.00Adyssince it only affects you
15:59.15Adysyou wont change my opinion and you're too full of it for me to change yours, dont bother I tell you :p
15:59.32Fisker-Yes but did you or i make the decision, and did you influence it?
15:59.39Fisker-You didn't make the decision, nor did you influence it
15:59.50Fisker-Therefor you can't say that your comment made me go to bed
15:59.59Fisker-And that's what you're doing with that link you linked me
16:00.04Adysyou are proving my point right here
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16:00.24Fisker-You're claiming that what is said by this person is true because Microsoft changed IE8 to render in standards mode per default rather than requiring the meta tags for it
16:00.30Adysif this guy writes up [Microsoft should do this] and then microsoft does this, it proves his point is valid, no one gives a damn whether he influenced it
16:00.44Fisker-If he did that there would be no point
16:00.47Fisker-That's my point
16:00.58Adysforget that :P
16:01.07Fisker-His argument is not nessecarily the reason for Microsoft to do whatever
16:01.20Fisker-and it doesn't make his argument valid or true either
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16:06.58VarghedinD'ah
16:07.05Adyswerh
16:07.19VarghedinYo Adys
16:07.23Adys:D
16:07.32VarghedinHey are you a botter?
16:07.52Adysactually no but laurly is around
16:08.21VarghedinI'm trying to figure out what kind of script I should make for an automated category replacement
16:10.18Adysno idea Im afraid
16:10.19Varghedinhow do I ping laurly?
16:10.34AdysLAURLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
16:10.37Adys(and you wait)
16:10.51zZzTempeteor
16:11.00Adysmorning zZzTempete
16:11.01zZzTempetelaurly laurly laurly laurly laurly laurly
16:11.21VarghedinI thought there was a command to make a ping window
16:11.29DuTempetedon't think so
16:11.31equiraptorYou could /ctcp laurly ping, too, but I doubt that would have the desired effect.
16:11.32Adysshes prob afk :P
16:11.43DuTempeteyeah, she does the afk a lot
16:11.49equiraptorThe /ctcp ping just has his client send a ping back. It's not interactive at all.
16:11.50laurlywas walking the dog what?
16:11.57DuTempeteooooooh look!
16:12.01Adysit worked!
16:12.16Varghedinlol
16:12.19Varghedinhi laurly
16:12.23*** mode/#wowwiki [+o Varghedin] by Adys
16:12.34laurlyhey i wana +o
16:12.36VarghedinI was wondering about scripts
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16:13.05VarghedinHow do I make one for my bot to change all articles in a category to another category
16:13.06laurly!!!
16:13.25laurlyknow anything about php?
16:13.37Varghedinno... lol
16:14.14laurlywhat cat to what cat?
16:14.43laurlydo you have a bot now?
16:14.45VarghedinWell, I want to do it several times and just change the cats
16:14.47Varghedinyes
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16:14.50Varghedinvargbot
16:15.09Varghedinlike, from Category:Continent:Kalimdor to Category:Kalimdor
16:15.19Varghedinand the same for Eastern Kingdoms and Northrend
16:15.22Varghedinand more later
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16:15.27laurlythats the zone cat project isnt it?
16:15.43Varghedinbut as long as I have the first I should be able to just change the cats and do it over
16:15.45Varghedinyes
16:16.30laurlylet me finsh testing phase 1 of the guild SD. and i will code larulybot to do it.
16:16.48[Liquidor]hi
16:17.05laurlyshouldnt take long with the new code.
16:17.09VarghedinGreat, thanks :) Could I have a copy of the code?
16:17.32laurlyonce i comment and clean it up abit i will post the source.
16:17.51VarghedinSweet.. thanks =)
16:18.44laurlybut its still php. im only going to post the functions you still have to know enough to get it to do what you want it to do.
16:19.15VarghedinYeah. I'm going to install some editors and read up on the process
16:20.33Varghedinwhen i have a code that I know what does, I can more easily figure out how to change it, rather than try to build something from scratch
16:22.11laurlytrust me you dont want to try and get php to login to wiki that alone took a day.
16:22.23laurlyand i have been working with php for 9 years.
16:23.21winkillerhehe
16:23.30winkillerplease share your problems
16:23.43winkillerI've already wondered last time you mentioned it
16:25.19laurlyim just testing it now got it scanning and SDing the guilds.
16:25.25VarghedinCan I use GNU AWK for this?
16:26.12laurlygot me.
16:26.22laurlygod why am i looking it up....
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16:27.29laurlydont see any reason why you couldnt i guess.
16:28.10laurlyi know its duable in purl as well.
16:28.22laurlyjust cba to learn purl.
16:30.22laurlyafk need to feed the kid
16:31.24pcjthe tooltip JS is now editable publicly but I still have control over whether a selected revision is live
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16:37.32Kasofoxlit, how does one pause a thread in lua again ? (without dead loops in windows)
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16:52.28foxlitKaso: one does not.
16:52.52Kasoits alright, found a quick "sleep" batch file i can os.execute
16:53.59foxlitGenerally, though, socket functions are are blocking, but not busy
16:54.45foxlitsocket.sleep(seconds)
16:55.01Kasoluasocket sockets have a sleep function?
16:55.11foxlitluasocket has a sleep function
16:55.15Kasosweet!
16:55.37foxlithttp://www.tecgraf.puc-rio.br/~diego/professional/luasocket/socket.html#sleep
16:59.24Kasoi need to recompile luasocket in x64, atm to use it i have to have a seperate 32bit binary of lua :<
17:03.07foxlitI don't see why you'd care about that :)
17:03.31Kasojust frustrates the tidyness side of my brain
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17:08.08cogumel0how do I get my addon accepting slash commands?
17:08.32Adysshould try #wowi-lounge
17:08.52cogumel0what's the difference?
17:08.59Kasothats for addons this is for wiki?
17:09.10cogumel0-.-
17:09.44Kaso1 seconds worth of clicking and i'll tell you the answer
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18:07.06pcjhi kirkburn
18:07.14pcjkirkburn: http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#Tooltip_JS_now_editable_by_all_users
18:07.32KirkburnGood morning
18:10.46Fisker-hej Kirkburn
18:11.13Kirkburnpcj, oh cool
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18:16.48Lukianaww what a cute article
18:17.03Lukian[[Herbs in the real world]]
18:17.13Lukianhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Herbs_in_the_real_world
18:18.12laurlyanyone know how to get mirc 6 to flash when someone types my name. cant find where you used to be able to add it.
18:24.14pcjlaurly, address book, click highlight tab
18:26.02laurlytest it plx
18:26.19pcjlaurly laurly laurly
18:26.30laurlythat works.
18:26.40laurlynow we wont have adys yelling about me not responding while coding
18:27.18Adyswww.silverex.org laurly
18:28.10laurlyhmm but i have been using mirc since version 2.0 :)
18:28.45Adyshmm but
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18:33.58KasoLukian, pretty cute, but his Boneset==Briarthorn thing i dont buy
18:34.04Kasohttp://www.data2action.com/wildflowers/images/boneset.jpg
18:34.08Kasohttp://www.wowhead.com/images/screenshots/resized/22220.jpg
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18:40.34KirkburnJust updated the sidebar on http://beta.wowwiki.com/Main_Page
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18:45.04KasoOh god, im in the matrix
18:46.15KirkburnIgnore the skin
18:54.04Kirkburnd'oh, I only made OseBot a patroller
18:55.43laurlywhats the diffrence Kirkburn
18:56.03KirkburnIt didn't hide the edits from the RC list
18:56.31laurlyhehe i remember when laurlybots edits where poping up on RC list.... ppl whernt happy :)
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18:59.59KirkburnI want more laurlybot edits :P
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19:02.29laurly_raidits still testing. i found a bug this after noon im not running it batch until im sure its not going to act up.
19:02.44laurly_raidit ran all the guilds against armory in 15 min php is faster
19:03.26laurly_raiderrored out 180 of them i just have to edit wiki to SD them
19:07.31Fisker-does it not suck in IE8? :P
19:07.52Fisker-runs pretty nice
19:08.12Fisker-btw
19:08.25Fisker-with that sidebar i prefer it in the right side :
19:08.26Fisker-:<
19:09.52Kirkburn>_<
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19:12.11Amarandeok, gamesurge obviously didn't agree with me on this idea that I'm most likely posting in WoW Suggestions on the official forums tonight ...
19:14.28AmarandeDoTs should tag.
19:14.48AmarandeIt's just painfully obvious that they should, especially as anyone who's ever played an affliction lock in a popular zone would know
19:14.59Amarandeand yet, the OTHER AFFLICTION LOCK there disagrees with me, saying that we'd become a bunch of rabid griefers lol
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19:23.47Fisker-hehe Kirkburn
19:24.04Fisker-how much work did you put into getting it on the left side? :)
19:24.19KirkburnAmarande, how do you mean?
19:24.21DuTempeteAmarande, you're talking about tagging the mob when it lands on the mob?
19:24.30DuTempeteit tags the mob when the first damage hits
19:24.35DuTempete*they
19:24.36Kirkburnaye
19:24.46AmarandeYeah, I think it should tag when it lands on the mob
19:24.53KirkburnFisker-, personally none, this is the new wikia skin
19:24.57Amarandeotherwise, you put affliction locks at a huge disadvantage to bursters in a competitive area
19:25.23KirkburnWhat about non-damaging spells though?
19:25.39AmarandeUA is meant to be used as an opener, for instance, it's got a cast time and the other affliction DoTs don't (well other than SoC)
19:26.11Amarandehowever, use UA as an opener anywhere where you're not alone, and you've got ... 1.5 sec that the other guy can steal your mob outright fair and square due to cast time, then another 3 sec after it lands where they can steal your kill AND poach your DPS to help them, too
19:26.36KirkburnWith non-damaging spells you can steal mobs with very little fear of getting aggro (assuming someone else is on their way to hit them)
19:26.56Kirkburns/can/could
19:27.05AmarandeRealistically, they will steal two or even three DoTs for their use, since the GCD ending coincides with finishing casting UA, so you can cast another right away ... then you can cast a third DoT before the first tick from any of them actually goes off
19:27.20Amarandemeanwhile, some effing hunter can come by and shoot once and they've got three DoTs just for them
19:27.54AmarandeDoTs aggro the mob though, if the debuff produces aggro it probably should tag
19:28.15Amarandeotherwise, you punish people who know how to play their class and reward people who recklessly leeroy to get the tag in
19:28.52Amarandewhich doesn't really help servers as a whole at all either
19:29.03Amarandesince then you have people who leveled and quested off this scrub, paint chip eater strategy
19:29.33DuTempeteYeah, so locks get ganked every once in a while... so what?
19:29.47Gourrabuff warlocks! z0mg
19:29.58DuTempeteThey still do most of the ganking in the game.
19:30.01AmarandeDuTempete: I'm not talking about getting ganked PvP, I'm talking about how they are so easy to KS from
19:30.22DuTempeteganking isn't just a pvp term
19:30.25Amarandewith the additional benefit that not only do you KS from them, you get two or three of their DoTs on your tagged mob ...
19:30.26DuTempetenubface :P
19:30.29Amarandehmm
19:30.38AmarandePvE ganking I usually thought was called killstealing instead
19:30.48DuTempeteboth
19:32.04Amarandeas for the additional use of the term "paint chip eater", this has more to do with 2.4
19:32.06DuTempeteanyway, you're not gonna get agreement from a lotta locks on this one
19:32.20Amarandewhich kinda both helps and ruins the game at the same time for the same reason ... mainly that has to do with raiding though
19:32.35Amarandethe problem is, affliction locks are actually fun, but we're condemned to being scrubs except for the occasional heroic group
19:32.58Gourrawhy not multi-dot mobs and fear kite them?
19:33.21Amarandeat this point, TBC is too heavily progressed and raid guilds are getting more and more crystallized ... for the most part they even expect you to have already been in previous raid guilds and be caught up on attunements, too
19:33.22GourraI don't find it especially fun outside instance with my holy paladin either..not even PvP is fun
19:33.30Amarandenot that that's really possible on Turalyon
19:33.32Amarandelet's see ...
19:33.50Amarandeyou have a few guilds in T6 that basically require BT attunement as a membership entry criterion
19:34.07GourraAmarande: yes, raiding guilds want people who are attuned. Do you have any idea how much effort it takes to drag someone's ass though SSC and TK, and the first boss in MH?
19:34.10DuTempetewhat atunements?
19:34.27Amarandethen you have a few people who have TK "progress" that basically just means "we're a bunch of scrubs but now that TK needs no attunement, we can just beat up on Void Reaver"
19:34.42Amarandeand other than that, almost everyone else is in Kara, probably never will get out of Kara before expansion, so no chance to get any progress there
19:35.45AmarandeGourra: it basically means that raiding on most servers is essentially frozen till expansion
19:35.52Amarandeoccasionally kara groups get together and that is about it anymore for new blood
19:35.58PhotoJimforgive my demonstration for another channel.
19:36.02PhotoJims/forgive/be entertained by/
19:36.03DuTempeteomg, seriously Amarande, I despise your whiney, high horse type.
19:36.30AmarandeDuTempete: Basically, here's what I"m wondering
19:36.31DuTempeteNewsflash: warlocks have vulnerabilities, too.
19:36.37PhotoJimif anyone knows who has that bot, we'd like it in our local linux club channel.  permission sought to use it.  :)
19:36.50PhotoJims/entertained/awed/
19:36.51Amarandeis there even any point to an affliction warlock at 70 who has not already substantial raid progression?
19:36.57PhotoJimahh, doesn't work a second time.
19:37.16OseKirkburn: did you tag my bot?
19:37.17Amarandeor when I hit 70, am I better off shelving her and using her as an AH alt until expansion refreshes the field?
19:37.18GourraAmarande: no, kill yourself.
19:37.20DuTempeteI don't understand what you're asking, Amarande
19:37.29KirkburnOse, a short while ago
19:37.36Osethanks :)
19:37.38DuTempetehere's a thought, amarande... have some fun.
19:37.40DuTempeteGee.
19:37.59AmarandeDuTempete: I'm basically saying, is there any realistic chance on most servers for a newer player to see any 25-man BC content more than maybe one or two PUG Maggie runs?
19:38.07Osebtw, when was the betawiki "made" (copied of the main wiki)?
19:38.18DuTempetesure is, but not with your attitude.
19:38.35DuTempeteIf you can't get into guilds, you might want to look into there being a more personal reason for it.
19:38.42Amarandeand as an affliction warlock?
19:38.59AmarandeI haven't quite hit 70 yet, so I haven't really looked into the raid field yet, other than to see the huge disparities in this server
19:39.08Amarandehowever, also wanting to keep contact with my friends, which is probably part of the problem
19:39.27DuTempeteany warlock especially should find it easier to join guilds already in TK
19:39.28Amarandemy buddies on Turalyon are Horde, so so am I. but almost all my buddies off of Turalyon, should I consider transferring, are Alliance there
19:39.39KirkburnBlizz are specifically making it easier to get into later game stuff now
19:39.49Amarandeexcept for a bunch on Tichondrius, but transfer to a PvP server is not allowed
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19:40.13Gourra<Amarande> my buddies on Turalyon are Horde, so so am I. but almost all my buddies off of Turalyon, should I consider transferring, are Alliance there <- what?
19:40.21DuTempeteugh, and I wish they weren't, Kirkburn
19:40.25AmarandeGourra: they play Horde Turalyon but Alliance elsewhere
19:40.31Amarandeso transferring off would be useless
19:40.48Gourraso your friends are playing Alliance on a server but you don't know which one?
19:41.00DuTempeteso.... start another character it isn't brain surgery
19:41.23DuTempeteI've got the same issue with a group of my friends
19:41.53KirkburnDuTempete, don't you want me to play with you? :)
19:42.01laurly_raidget a room
19:42.09DuTempeteDamn straight I do, Kirkburn  :P
19:42.15DuTempete<3
19:42.16Amarandeanyway, I have to go to work.
19:42.24Gourrabye, I guess
19:42.34DuTempeteugh
19:42.54DuTempeteThink there's any way for me to reach through my interweb and kick that guy's whiney little ass?
19:42.56Gourramy problem is that me and a friend was on a server, then he transferred and I stayed
19:43.19Gourranow I'm in a raiding guild with good progress, but I want to see more content. eh
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19:50.51Osewhat's the difference between (bot)- and a (bot, patrollers) tagged accounts?
19:51.15kd3if they're not tagged 'patroller', their edits tend to show up as unpatrolled on RC
19:52.00Oseok
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20:03.38VesitinOK so /Instance says that the reccommended level for gnomer is 25-28.  The /Gnomeragan page says recommended level is 28-35.  Which is right?
20:07.29myke54142the first but the quests stay green until 35
20:08.13myke54142i've found a lot of level mismatches between pages and the game itself
20:09.24Vesitindid they change the dungeon difficulty in 2.3?
20:09.44myke54142possibly
20:09.59myke54142seems easier now
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20:10.38Vesitinstill doesn't change that it's freakishly long and obnoxiously laid out
20:11.47myke54142i ran it last weekend and it's really not as bad as ppl make it out ot be
20:11.53myke54142i think ppl whine too much about instances
20:12.02myke54142"the game starts at 70" mentality in action
20:17.40Vesitinno, it sucks.
20:17.44Vesitin:)
20:19.05Oseslowwiki?
20:19.15Oseor slow osePC?
20:20.30Vesitinslow osepc
20:27.41myke54142well you don't have to run it
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20:58.34Osehow can anyone upload
20:58.36Osehttp://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Races_orcs_50.png & http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Races_bloodelves_50.png
20:58.37Osewhen you can't rightclick and save the pictures on http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/races/index.html ?
20:59.10foxlitClearly someone can right click
21:00.26OseI can right click. But the "save picture" option isn't there
21:01.04pcjhttp://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/races/images/races_orcs.jpg
21:01.22pcjhttp://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/races/images/races_bloodelves.jpg
21:01.27pcjhave fun
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21:16.20laurly_raidwonder if i can test the bot and raid.
21:16.35laurly_raidMH is booring....
21:18.02laurly_raidand you guys arent very entertaining
21:18.54PhotoJimI'm entertaining on the inside.
21:20.11Fisker-I don't like y ou laurly_raid
21:22.22laurly_raidMany more Nethermine Ravagers have been added to the Netherwing Mines. "WOOT"
21:24.56laurly_raidwhy not Fisker-?
21:26.13Dottedlaurly_raid he hates everyone
21:26.22Dottedjust ignore him
21:29.43laurly_raidwill do :)
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21:40.48Osehow do I get a beige color? (with #123456 code stuff)
21:41.22pcjose: http://www.w3schools.com/html/html_colors.asp
21:42.02Osethankies
21:43.14Adysose
21:43.15Adyshttp://www.ficml.org/jemimap/style/color/wheel.html
21:44.02pcjsloooow
21:44.16Adyseh?
21:44.59pcjresponse
21:45.10Adysoh
21:45.15Adysthought you meant slow website
21:45.21Adysi had to find it
21:46.53Osegah. can anyone help me find the bg color on http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Races_tauren.jpg ?
21:47.55Adysits not a single color its a texture
21:48.07Adyswhat's your browser bt
21:48.08Adysbtw
21:48.24Osefirefox
21:48.44OseI need something that looks like the bg
21:48.44Adyshttps://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/271
21:50.10Osewhere do you get these links from?
21:50.19AdysI know them by heart
21:55.25Fisker-blood for blood Adys
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21:56.10Osehttp://www.wowwiki.com/Template:User_Exalted + http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:User_Exalted/test : any comments?
21:56.17Osestill needs some tweaking
21:56.41Sky2042_afkOse: dislike, as it allows for linking to redirects ;(
21:56.52Ose:P
21:57.04Sky2042_afkmake the link use a switch.
21:57.16OseI guess it could be changed to linking to the capitals/factions?
21:57.23Sky2042_afkbrilliant idea
21:57.36Sky2042_afkand move it to T:User exalted. T's are supposed to be lower case.
21:58.04Osebut, that will have to be tomorrow (or by somebody else)
21:58.13OseI have to sleep
21:58.39Osegoing to da skis tomorrow :D
21:58.39Sky2042_afkworks for me.
22:04.46Osebtw sky, I think I finished up with the outdated templates today
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22:06.32Osecheck it out and start deleting :P
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22:22.42Sky2042_afkhmm, where's kb when you need him
22:26.53Sky2042_afklaurly_raid: pop over to [[Help:NPC articles]] and or [[Help:Quest articles]] to begin with. I don't know that I have a customized version other than those.
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22:42.29laurly_raidgot them Sky2042_afk
22:43.53laurly_raidnight guys
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22:46.19Sandwichman2448Do you have to be a user to be a page in the user namespace?
22:46.42Sky2042_afkSandwichman2448: ?
22:46.55Sandwichman2448Like User:Bob makes the page User:Stan about his main.
22:47.34Sandwichman2448http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Contributions/Lucinth
22:47.38Sky2042_afkyes, there needs to be an actual user, unless of course they make an account with that name.
22:47.45Sandwichman2448That is not a user.
22:47.57Sky2042_afkthat should just be deleted outright :/
22:48.05Sandwichman2448K...
22:52.59Sandwichman2448I think I did move it to the correct place, though.
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23:07.37Sandwichman2448http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:WoWScrnShot_030308_162223.jpg
23:07.47Sandwichman2448What is this of?
23:08.28Sandwichman2448Is it the Burning steppes?
23:08.45kd3ya
23:09.17Sandwichman2448Then this is a problem.
23:10.11foxliterm, not  necessarily
23:10.29Sandwichman2448Wha?
23:11.37foxlitmay be used to point out the array to the left of that map, though it seems odd
23:13.14foxlitStormwind: Population 200,000
23:13.59foxlitIf everyone one of those guys grabbed a mining pick and went and stuck it into someone living in Orgrimmar, TB, or UC, the horde capitals would all be ghost towns
23:14.52Sandwichman2448Ok.
23:15.13Sandwichman2448Well the person who added it said:
23:15.21Sandwichman2448In-Game Map of the Area, Character Not Shown when inside but it comes up when you click the map icon.
23:15.34Sandwichman2448The In-Game Map Shows an area completely surrounded by mountains and will not show your characters icon when in the region.
23:15.48Sandwichman2448He should not even be there.
23:15.59Sandwichman2448Seems false or exploity.
23:16.39Sandwichman2448Wammepudditbak?
23:20.02DottedFisker- nvidia might be non-fail now
23:20.52Dottedonly took them since november
23:22.07Sandwichman2448Well, Adys killed it.
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23:40.02Adyshaha
23:40.05Adysspore on the iphone <3
23:40.54Sky2042_afk^
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