IRC log for #wowwiki on 20080304

00:00.27foxlitIn short, I hold the opinion that you're much better off designing the required back end _not_ being integrated into the wiki; it'd require less code, be more efficient, and would consume less baby kitten souls.
00:01.01Adysfoxlit:  this is exactly what is gonna happen
00:01.25foxlitSo those metaphorical "pages of XML" should never really exist
00:01.35AdysSure they will
00:01.50foxlitThey're silly
00:01.54foxlitDo you want people to edit them?
00:02.05AdysEventually
00:02.24foxlitwhy?
00:02.34AdysHow would you maintain it otherwise?
00:02.39foxlit"Lol, let's change the Ashbringer to +999 stamina!"
00:02.48AdysNo, bot/admin access
00:04.16AdysThe idea behind openwdb, past the fact its totally error-free
00:04.29foxlitSo you don't want them user editable.
00:04.30Adysis also to be able to create more items without the wdb
00:04.33foxlitWhat are they doing on a wiki?
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00:04.53AdysWhere else would you put them?
00:04.59AdysWith a correct design, they dont hurt being there
00:06.10foxlitWith a correct design, they would not be used. at all.
00:07.14Adyssure they would
00:07.44Adysthe point is not to make a db here, the point is to make a framework
00:07.49Adysremember this concerns more than just items
00:09.02Adysi have to get to sleep, my back is starting to hurt a fair bit
00:09.40AdysIll be back tomorrow, comments & questions on the talkpage
00:10.41VarghedinBonne nuit Adys
00:11.00AdysNight Vargh <o/ And dont you ever leave this chatroom :P
00:11.07Varghedinlol
00:11.26VarghedinI will try my best hehe
00:14.32Gourraanyone know what happened to the EU armory?
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00:22.50foxlithttp://eu.wowarmory.com/ ?
00:22.58foxlitWhat did happen to the EU armory?
00:23.35Gourrayeah that's what I wonder
00:23.47Gourra"Server not found"
00:24.06Gourra"Firefox can't find the server at eu.wowarmory.com."
00:28.34foxlitYour local-side DNS cache is wrong
00:29.17foxlitdig @ns-west.cerf.net A eu.wowarmory.com
00:29.25foxliteu.wowarmory.com.600INA80.239.186.20
00:31.22Gourraodd, it works now..
00:32.22Gourrahttp://www.wowwiki.com/Image_talk:Instructor_Malicia.jpg , http://www.wowwiki.com/Image_talk:Jandice_Barov.jpg and http://www.wowwiki.com/Image_talk:Lady_Illucia_Barov.jpg ...
00:32.29Gourrathe arguments for keeping are ridicilous.
00:34.28foxlitThey were... used, at some point?
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00:35.53foxlitUntil this guy http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Contributions/Frylock226 removed them all
00:36.25foxlitGiven that he gives no reasons,  I don't see any reasons to treat his edits anything other than removal vandalism
00:36.42foxlitWhich sort of voids the whole "let's delete them because they're unused" vote
00:36.54Gourrawhat do you think then? should they stay there?
00:37.12Gourrathe Blameaux image, by the same artist, got already deleted.
00:40.25foxlitI'll post a comment.
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00:56.56foxlitI don't see why the Blameaux image got deleted
00:57.10foxlitDelete didn't exactly win the vote there
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00:57.30pcjUndelete plz
00:57.35pcjwait, which admin deleted it?
00:57.47foxlitCan't undelete pictures; Adys
00:57.53pcjugh
00:58.07pcji suspect a french conspiracy
01:03.32Charitwofoxlit: you can in a certain time period, i've tested it
01:03.49foxlitI can what?
01:04.00Charitwoundelete images, it is possible
01:05.17kd3not on 1.10... maybe in 1.12
01:06.43foxlithttp://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Server:Blackwater_Raiders_US&diff=prev&oldid=1210025
01:07.35kd3not like that isn't par for the course on RP realms...
01:08.41foxlitThe guy's other contributions are borderline vandal
01:15.54kd3huh, they changed the flightpath again on the test realm. cut another few minutes out. 12m -> 5 -> ~2
01:18.01Dottedhuh
01:18.44pcjwhich flight path
01:22.25kd3IF -> quel'danas
01:22.38kd3soon as you hit the front gate you get teleported to the south edge of the island
01:25.06pcjwhat if you fly to hatchet hills first
01:25.21kd3dunno. that's still probably an 8 minute flight
01:26.14pcjso basically you can fly to IQD and from there back to hatchet hills and cut some time off
01:26.55kd3I doubt it'll go live. they've never done abbreviated flight paths like that before
01:27.20Sky2042_afkprolly just so people can get there faster on PTR
01:27.56pcjisn't there a portal there from shatt or something
01:28.05pcjoh no it's the other way around isn't it
01:28.41kd3there's a port from shat, but that's going to be available until a few weeks in
01:29.59kd3lmao... gotta love fark
01:30.06kd3"[Interesting] Those pricey Monster Cables you bought don't sound any better than the free-range coat-hangers you have breeding in your closet"
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04:20.05DiscordktHi!
04:21.32DuTempetehowdy Discordkt
04:21.41DuTempeteVARGHEDIN!
04:21.48DuTempeteFO SHIZZLE
04:22.47Charitwoo.o
04:23.07DuTempeteoh noes... when did you invade our channel, Charitwo :P
04:23.09DiscordktI'm a bit new to wowwiki but have been adding pictures where the "Need Screenshot" tags are.  :D
04:23.31CharitwoDuTempete: just now noticing me ? :p
04:23.35DuTempetethat's awesome, Discordkt !
04:23.41DuTempeteYes, sadly, Charitwo :P
04:29.50DuTempeteReally, I'm just giving you a hard time, Charitwo.  The more the merrier :P
04:29.57Charitwoo.o
04:35.39DiscordktWould this be a place I could ask for advice on a possible violation on a wikipage?
04:36.28DuTempeteabsolutely, Discordkt
04:37.39DiscordktStupendous! My realms page has this "Notable players" section and some of the comments I don't think are appropriate, but someone removed the tag I made  :(
04:38.41DuTempetecould you give us a link to it?
04:39.00Discordkthttp://www.wowwiki.com/Server:Kael%27thas_US
04:40.06DuTempeteI'm glad you aren't getting into an edit war with the person.  It was a good idea to come here :)
04:40.42DiscordktI was warned in advance that the "Kael'thas" would get angry if I mentioned anything, so I didn't actually edit anything to begin with.  And low and behold he did get angry.  :(
04:42.08DuTempeteWhat are your issues with the content?  Something specific?
04:42.40DiscordktFriski in the alliance "Who is this guy? A douchebag."
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04:51.23DuTempeteDiscordkt, the only reason I doubt the seriousness of the issue is that it may be done in good fun.  I would remove it anyway if I could find a language policy.  Oddly enough I can't :P
04:51.29DuTempeteAnyone think of anything?
04:57.34DiscordktI looked as well earlier, but found nothing.
04:58.19DuTempeteah, but if you look at the history, it wasn't originally that way.
04:58.29DuTempeteit originally said "Destroyer of Horde Raiding"
04:58.33DuTempetewhen the content was created.
04:58.38DuTempeteI'm going to change it back to that.
04:59.00DuTempeteAnd if this person reverts it again, we'll bring it to the attention of an admin
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05:00.35ValrosSo whats up?
05:01.41DuTempetehowdy Valros
05:01.44Valrosa
05:01.50Valrosnvm that
05:02.49Valrosquick question with 2.4, What does it mean for Kara attunements, are they saying that you dont physically need the key on you or that there is no more attunement for it
05:04.52DuTempeteDiscordkt, done.
05:05.10Discordktty
05:05.43DiscordktValros - I think it means you can enter without being keyed, but someone will need to open the doors for you
05:06.11ValrosYa, I wondered that as well, makes it alot easier, ok thanks.
05:06.15DuTempetelemme check the patch notes, valros, but my assumption is that one no longer needs the key.
05:06.27DuTempeteI even doubt that, Discordkt
05:06.27Discordkt"Players will no longer need the Master’s Key to enter Karazhan. The gates to Karazhan will still require the Master’s Key to be unlocked."
05:06.43DuTempeteahhh well then you woul dbe correct :P
05:07.05DuTempeteso it'll be like other locked instances; only one person needs the key.
05:07.22ValrosOk, well the quest line is still useful for something...
05:07.28DuTempeteyup
05:07.37Discordktmakes it easier on alts  :)
05:07.44ValrosOhh ya
05:08.19ValrosA lot easier...
05:16.28Discordktmy guild has been rushing to kill Kael'thas before 2.4
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06:11.25DuTempetenight night folks
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08:56.18Adyshttp://www.joystiq.com/2008/03/02/kojima-mgs4-too-big-for-50-gb-blu-ray-disc/
08:56.19Adys:D
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09:08.50amroAdys: that's scary.
09:08.59Adysit is
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09:51.35VarghedinHmm... yesterday: sunny spring. Today: Snow everywhere.
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10:38.16laurlyping foxlit
10:38.22foxlitpong
10:38.31laurlyhows your php?
10:38.43foxlitzZz?
10:38.54foxlitI don't complain, then again, I don't use it as an OO language
10:39.09laurlytrying to get it to login to wiki.
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10:39.47laurlyi almost think it is working im just not showing it right.
10:40.19laurly<PROTECTED>
10:41.06winkillerwhat for?
10:41.30foxlit[still listening]
10:41.45laurlyso i can run laurlybot on the server so i dont have to have it runing on my pc anymore
10:42.24winkilleruhm yeah. I maybe missed half of the conv, but what's the problem?
10:43.22laurlyit looks like its setting all the cookies but still i get You have not specified a valid user name.
10:43.51foxlitAnd you are, of course, sending those cookies back to the server?
10:44.59laurlyi think thats the question
10:45.43foxlitpaste some code, then
10:46.10foxlitThe operative insight is that PHP is not VB, and its network support is on a slightly different level.
10:47.07laurlyyeah i know thats why i did the bot in VB to begin with it was easer. think it took me 2 days to code the guild bot
10:49.14laurlywiki laging now...
10:49.30laurlywonder if it will just be easer to edit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Edward_Z._Yang/Wikipedia_Bot_in_PHP
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10:50.19winkillerI don't see anything wrong with php's network support :P
10:50.25laurlydb error on wiki lovly
10:50.43laurlyfrom within function "User::invalidateCache". MySQL returned error "1205: Lock wait timeout exceeded; try restarting transaction (10.8.2.12)".
10:51.56laurlysomething tells me i should just install wiki on the server to test with
10:52.04winkilleryeah:P
10:52.08winkillerdefinitely an idea
10:52.36winkillerlaurly: any special reason why you don't name your charnames on wowwiki? or am I blind?
10:52.36laurlygrumbles about more subdomains
10:52.40winkillerlol
10:52.57laurlylaurly = me laurlybot = the bot
10:53.29winkillerI looked on your page ><
10:53.59laurlywhat my wow char names?
10:54.07winkilleryeah
10:54.20winkillerjust curious because of Aggy :P
10:54.26laurlyatthena is my shadow priest.
10:54.43winkillerdoesn't ring a bell :/
10:54.50laurlyalliance
10:55.16laurlyi cant login to wiki.... adys fix wiki
10:55.36Gourragrrrr why doesn't my eu.wowarmory.com work
10:55.54Gourra"Server not found
10:55.54Gourra<PROTECTED>
10:55.57Gourra<PROTECTED>
10:56.01Gourra<PROTECTED>
10:56.03GourraFirefox can't find the server at eu.wowarmory.com."
10:56.05Gourrawhoops
10:56.07GourraI blame firefox.
10:56.24Gourraoh and another error, from wowwiki: "Database error"
10:56.33laurlysec will tell you why
10:56.37winkillerGourra: didn't you hear it? blizz let wowarmory.com expire
10:56.45winkilleruse armory.wow-europe.com
10:56.46laurlyIn one of the most bizarre things I've seen happen to the World of Warcraft in my three years playing, the WoW Armory site today is pointing to a generic GoDaddy.com domain parking page. The screenshot above was taken at 1:08 p.m. CST on March 2nd, 2008. WoW Insider has received numerous reports of this. It seems to be a DNS related issue. The domain name wowarmory.com expires today, and it appears as if a registrant has grabbed the wo
10:56.48winkillerit works
10:56.59laurlyDNS entries for blizzard.com and worldofwarcraft.com point to cerf.net, while the DNS servers for wowarmory.com are currently pointing to domaincontrol.com. While some of you might be seeing wowarmory.com work correctly, others are not. The ISPs of people who are seeing it work have not had their DNS records updated yet, however within the next 48 hours they will see wowarmoy.com go down as well; unless Blizzard fixes this before then
10:57.01Gourraoh, thanks winkiller
10:57.12laurlyyour dns is messed up :)
10:57.19winkillerand armory.worldofwarcraft.com
10:57.34winkillerdid they get it again?
10:57.49Gourra"
10:57.49Gourrawww.wowarmory.com
10:57.49GourraThis page is parked free, courtesy of GoDaddy.com.
10:57.49Gourra" hrm
10:58.03Gourratime to update firefox shortcuts
10:58.28laurlycrap i dont think i can install wiki media...
10:59.34Gourrawinkiller: http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Aggramar&n=Atthena
11:00.21winkillererr yeah, I figured that :P
11:00.21winkillerwas just thinking I may have ran into laurly :P
11:00.21foxlitlaurly: those domain names are wrong :/
11:00.21Gourraah
11:02.01laurlyheres where i hope armory is showing my shadow gear and not crapy healing gear
11:02.34laurlytry kestra
11:02.53foxlitgruul/crafted?
11:02.55Gourrahttp://dwarfpriest.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/shadow-dps.gif haha
11:03.00laurlyohhh i am running php5
11:03.53foxlit"Keep VT, SWP up; SW:D, MB when you can afford to, mindflay otherwise"
11:04.05foxlitthat diagram is way too big for what it's representing
11:06.51laurlyohhh i think it is loging in.
11:07.29laurlycrap why can i never remember where apachie is
11:09.09laurlyyou guys remember if you can do a disk cloan from a smaller disk to a biger one?
11:13.30laurlyamazing what you find when diging around in appachie conf...... seams my x made himself a website
11:34.58foxlit*apache
11:37.29Gourraex*
11:37.54laurlyany of you guys use kaspersky?
11:37.58Gourrayes
11:38.10laurly04-03-2008 12:20:54DoS.Generic.SYNFlood! Attacker's IP address: 10.100.200.1. Protocol/service: TCP on local port 5301. Time: 04-03-2008 12:20:54
11:38.24laurlyhow do i get it to un block the dam server i cant even use webpages becouse its blocking the dns
11:45.06VarghedinAnyone know what's up with Allakhazam?
11:45.12winkillerrofl. pro software :P
11:45.30amroVarghedin: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15138
11:45.42amrowait windows doesn't have SYN flood protection by default?
11:48.12foxlitIt probably does
11:48.22foxlitwell, it shouldn't fall over and die in any case
11:48.34foxlitBut hey, antivirus software makers are dealing in fear, so might as well :)
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11:58.26laurlythis crap needs to be woman proff
11:58.54Gourralol
11:59.27laurlycan code anything i want but cant get kaspersky to let me do it
11:59.37laurlythere at leats midawiki is uploaded to the server now
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12:25.43laurlyi think i give up trying to install midawiki
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13:11.06laurlyfinaly now we have a test server :)
13:12.26Gourrayay laurly!
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13:18.10laurlyhttp://www.wowportal.dk/backup/sig/loginwiki.php
13:18.20laurlywould you agree if i am getting a session id back it is loging in.
13:19.10foxlityeah, sure
13:19.20foxlitI'd also agree that you're not sending it back
13:19.34foxlitSince you're getting a different session cookie bcak each time :)
13:21.54laurlygrumble
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13:32.10p30nhey yo!
13:33.58laurlyhttp://www.wowportal.dk/backup/sig/loginwiki.php woot?
13:34.05laurlyhmm no
13:35.26p30nright ?
13:35.31p30nlaurly: what about it? :o
13:37.06laurlystill doesnt look loged in as its still showing  Log in / create account
13:37.06Adyslaurly: thats a lot of misplaced headers
13:37.27p30nkinda yea
13:37.49laurlyAdys stuff after the sesssion is my trying to move to the main page.
13:38.14Vesitinhow many runs through SFK you think it will take to have Shadowfang AND Assassin's blade drop?
13:38.24Adys27.1
13:38.34Vesitink cool i should have it soon then
13:38.59Adyshey laurly, did you check the openwdb related stuff btw
13:39.08VesitinCrap! It's Tuesday!
13:39.17laurlyopenwdb?
13:39.24Adyshttp://www.wowwiki.com/User:Adys/News/Items/OpenWDB
13:41.48laurlyi read about that back when i first started working on laurlybot but at the time wowiki didnt suport it.
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13:45.48laurlyi think i remember why i didnt do the bot in php to begin with this is a pain.
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14:01.12pcj!sup
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14:03.36foxlithttp://www.wowwiki.com/Image:DukeOfZephyrs.jpg
14:03.43foxlitthe scale seems oddly wrong
14:04.33KasoMind vision, can sorta do that
14:09.40laurlywhy exactly am i spending my day off argueing with this.
14:10.20Vesitinewww I hate Silithus
14:10.35laurlyi tend to skip that zone :)
14:10.54Gourrafoxlit I'll chop it down
14:11.05foxlitGourra: what?
14:11.17Gourra<foxlit> http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:DukeOfZephyrs.jpg
14:11.32foxlitI was thinking more about the scale of the mob in the image, not the size of the image itself
14:11.40foxlitlooked too small :)
14:11.51pcjmaybe it's compensating for something
14:12.15Gourra'kay
14:13.03Kasolaurly, Vesitin ! How dare you! Silithus is awesome
14:13.13foxlitIndeed, best 60 zone ever!
14:13.15VesitinNo, I hate it.
14:13.21VesitinI turned 60 post-tbc.
14:13.26pcjsilithus sucks
14:13.33pcjespecially grinding cenarion circle rep
14:13.36VesitinI only went to Silithus to grind rep
14:13.41Vesitinto get the Cenarion Herb Bag.
14:13.50KasoThe reson the mobs looks so small in the picture is when you MV a large mob the camera zooms out further than you expect
14:14.06Kasome too!
14:14.25VesitinSpeaking of Mind Vision, is there any add-ons that'll show who is targetting you?
14:14.44foxlitIt was more or less the only zone that had any actual challenge to it at 60 grinding.
14:14.46Kasohttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/lntkaos/ring.jpg?t=1204640075
14:14.49foxlitPlus soloing prophet = <3
14:14.51KasoLookie lookie
14:14.55VesitinI say this because in AB yesterday, I was mind visioning an opposite-faction player at BS, and he mind-visioned me back.
14:15.02foxlitew, Kaso, ew!
14:15.16foxlitThough I don't recall what rings I was using at the time
14:15.37Kasoi think if you have no target you auto target whoever MVs you Vesitin, same as you do if someone casts an offensive spell on you
14:15.41Kasonot 100% though
14:16.12KasoI solo grinded so much of silithus, i know that place like the back of my hand
14:16.25KasoI can complete every quest from memory
14:16.50Gourraew Kaso, ew
14:16.59Gourracaster without robe/skirt = ew
14:17.11KasoAlso i personally summoned like 4 or 5 Abyssal Lords
14:17.24KasoYah, i know, its really ugly, but it was a good vest >.<
14:17.29Kasofrom silithus no less!
14:18.16GourraI personally didn't pick any of the non-robe rewards to use while leveling my priest in outland, I stuck to a robe reward
14:18.26Vesitinamazing how much difference there is from 60-70.  My priest has about 3300 Armor with Inner Fire up at level 70.
14:18.38Gourrazomg rogue armor
14:18.45foxlitThat's probably without inner fire?
14:18.55foxlitKaso's screenshot, that is
14:18.59VesitinHow much does inner fire give...I never actually looked.
14:19.03Kasoyes
14:19.17foxlit1295 at 60
14:19.20foxlit*1395
14:19.24foxlit1580 at 70
14:19.25VesitinSomebody pointed out to me that a clothadin can have more armor than a priest just in his shield.  I never noticed this.
14:19.49Kasohttp://www.wowwiki.com/Earthpower_Vest is the ugly vest
14:20.14Kasostats are pretty crap for a shadow priest, but all i had otherwise was Prophecy gear, and grinding in healing gear = suck
14:20.51Vesitinit's better than the gear i had at 60...I think I had Azeroth Greens.
14:21.02Gourraah, bless the change that 1/3 of +healing is also +dmg/healing
14:21.09Kasoindeed
14:21.09GourraI had Hypnotic Blade on my warlock at level 60.
14:21.17Vesitinzomg i had that dagger forever.
14:21.27Vesitinon my priest.
14:21.30Vesitinerr mage
14:21.33Gourra:P
14:21.36Vesitinmy priest had it for a while too tho
14:22.04GourraI think my priest used it until that dagger from maraudon
14:22.09VesitinMy mage made it to Hellfire Peninsula with Spidersilk Boots.
14:22.11VesitinTop that.
14:22.18KasoMy favorate place in silithus is what i call the dragon tower, up right at the north near the twilight cave, ontop of a hill theres a tower with a random nelf in it, from it you can watch the dragons fly by
14:22.19Gourrawhaha
14:22.28Kasospent so much time just idling there whilst writing addons
14:22.59pcj!editcount pcj
14:23.19Kasooh cool someone wrote a bot to count edits? useful
14:23.48foxlitIt hates pcj, too :)
14:23.56Vesitin!editcount JasonDJ
14:24.11Vesitin:( no loes.
14:24.13Vesitin*loves
14:24.27Gourrashameless promotion: http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Paperdoll
14:24.52Gourramany thanks to pcj
14:24.57Kasothats pretty
14:25.00foxlitBut you can use {{User Editcount}} :)
14:25.39foxlitYou really should move the example off the template page :)
14:25.49VesitinWhere is Shard of the Virtuous from again?
14:25.57Vesitinoh nm i can click it
14:25.59Vesitinduh.
14:26.31VesitinMaiden? Cool...maybe I'll get it this week and I won't have to drop honor on the PVP one.
14:27.22pcjlol it never drops from maiden
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14:28.04Osehi
14:28.14pcjahoy
14:28.49Gourrafoxlit: done
14:29.09Gourraah nvm
14:36.40pcjgourra i think he meant move it to the talk page due to include limits
14:36.50Gourrayeah I realized
14:37.33p30nVesitin: the shard is nice but its got a pretty crappy droprate i think
14:37.47p30neasier to get pvp one, but for pve the shard is superior :)
14:38.01VesitinI get to get PVP offhand today when the servers come back up.
14:38.03VesitinWoot.
14:38.10VesitinI can't decide between that and the Cenarion one.
14:38.28VesitinIt'd take me about a weeks worth of grinding Heroic SP/UB to get the Cenarion one tho,.
14:38.33p30ncenarion what ?
14:38.58p30nu talking about the sha'tar one ?
14:39.03p30n"gavel of pure light" ?
14:39.05Vesitinno...offhand.
14:39.17p30nah, thought u were on about the mainhand
14:39.25p30nu a priest or druid ?
14:39.27Vesitinhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Windcaller%27s_Orb
14:39.29VesitinPriest.
14:39.29p30nyea
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14:39.42p30nget the badge one instead and do whatever heroics you want...
14:39.58Vesitinyeah the badge one is pretty nice
14:40.17VesitinVoodoo Shaker.
14:40.34p30nits pretty darned nice
14:41.03p30ni think the stats will make up for the -9healing u get from the shaker
14:41.33VesitinI can grind about another day's worth of PVP and get S1 healing pants if I don't get the offhand
14:41.52Vesitinwhich i think are better than Whitemend if I don't get the whitemend hood
14:41.59Vesitin(since I have eng. helm)
14:42.00p30nif i were you i would stop pvp and start getting REAL pve gear :p
14:42.13VesitinI need stam.
14:42.15VesitinI need stam bad.
14:42.20p30nkeep the engi helm, it rocks, and get it upgraded in 2.4
14:42.25VesitinI got like 6.5k health full raid buffed.
14:42.30p30nWOOT
14:42.44Vesitinit gets upgraded in 2.4?
14:42.55p30nthe rest of your gear is probably green then? i mean that is LOW hp
14:43.00p30nVesitin: yea it does
14:43.16p30nthe plans to upgrade it drops in sunwell, and its easy mats, and a huge improvement
14:43.17Vesitini don't see it in notes
14:43.25Vesitinorly?
14:43.35p30nhold on
14:43.38VesitinSP5 or SP20?
14:43.44p30nhttp://www.wowdb.com/item.aspx?id=35189
14:44.08Vesitinomg those mats are easysauce
14:44.11p30npretty neat stats huh? :)
14:44.15p30nyea mats are nothing
14:44.37p30nhttp://www.wowdb.com/item.aspx?id=35186 <- im getting those for my soul-eater lock
14:44.38Vesitinespecially with nether being unbound now.
14:44.43p30nindeed
14:44.50Vesitinmy guess is nether is going to be dirt cheap for a lil while on AH.
14:44.51p30ni got 27 nethers on my lock atm =)
14:44.59p30nwonder what i can sell them for on AH when 2.4 hits
14:45.39Vesitinthey will probably be going down to 30-35g in AH with 2.4, my guess is AH is going to be flooded by people that have tons of them and it's gonna drive the price down big.
14:46.20p30nprobably
14:46.30Vesitinwhich sunwell does that drop from?
14:46.37p30nthe raid, trash mobs
14:46.39p30nafaik.
14:47.05Vesitinthat sucks
14:47.06Vesitini'm gonna need a better guild
14:47.08p30nhehe
14:47.51Vesitinalso going to need to buy some mats to grind out a ton of field repair bots.
14:48.05Vesitinto get my engineering up those last 10 levels.
14:48.55p30nhmm
14:49.03p30ncan't remember what i made the last skillups
14:49.15p30nim engineering 389 now tho :)
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14:56.30Vesitingnome?
14:56.53p30nofc
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15:02.40p30nOMGAD
15:02.40p30n17:02 < p30n> OMGAD
15:02.41p30nits 5 o clock!
15:02.48p30nim outta here dudes
15:02.51p30nand dudettes
15:03.03Saikittenbye o.o
15:03.19VesitinNo patch today right?
15:03.38Oseno. it's 16.03...
15:03.41Ose:D
15:03.59Gourra16:03 woo
15:04.04Gourraparty party in an hour
15:04.09Saikittenhai Gourra :3
15:04.11pcj0903 imo
15:04.25Gourra^^
15:04.38Gourrahai Saikitten
15:04.48Saikittenhow are you?
15:16.21foxlitoh holy crap
15:16.25foxliterm
15:16.39foxlit(a) @#$@#@ for class requirements
15:16.51foxlit(b) wtf, that's better than tier 5 helmets for practically nothing
15:17.31Vesitindid i miss something?
15:17.43Gourra^
15:17.48foxlitp30n: http://www.wowdb.com/item.aspx?id=35186 <- im getting those for my soul-eater lock
15:18.12Vesitinoh man i hate farming motes of shadow
15:18.21Vesitinthe mobs drop easy enough but all my mains are casters.,
15:18.30foxlitso?
15:18.47Vesitinso the mobs have a buff making them resistent to a certain school of magic
15:18.51foxlitAh, wait, netherstorm reflective/mitigating mobs?
15:19.02Vesitinwhich shouldn't be that big a deal anymore since my mage is proficient in two schools of magic now.
15:19.19foxlitLosers are those who can't cast more than one school of spells :P
15:19.38Vesitinbetween my two mains i can cast five schools of spells
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15:19.48Vesitinbut my mage is proficient in two and my priest is proficient in one
15:19.50Vesitinthrough talents and gear.
15:20.14foxlitI assume you have a wand
15:20.33Vesitinyeah but it's the same school as one of those proficient classes.
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15:21.10Vesitini haven't been shadow farming since i was 69 though so it may be a lot easier now
15:21.21Vesitinbeing as i can now one-to-two shot most mobs in outlands now on my mage
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15:23.31GourraI should level my warlock for caster dps
15:25.39laurlyWOOT IM IN!
15:25.58GourraYAY
15:26.10Vesitin???
15:32.01pcjgrats laurly
15:32.40Gourracan an admin move [[Quest:Seek_out_Tabetha]] to [[Quest:Seek_Out_Tabetha]]? the "o" is supposed to be capitalized in quest name
15:33.06Gourra(yes I am asking this because the move page says so.)
15:33.15amrois there something like PAGENAME for the section name?
15:34.09pcjno
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16:18.57pcjwhat problems are you having laurly
16:19.10laurlyhttp://www.wowportal.dk/backup/sig/logingwiki.php
16:19.22laurlyworks fine on test wiki site
16:19.40laurlywowwiki just doesnt like it
16:21.53pcjtry this URL http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Laurly?action=edit
16:26.32laurlynopes
16:26.44laurlyhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Main_Page doesnt work either
16:27.06pcjtry without the www.?
16:27.44pcjthat's weird tho
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16:31.42laurlythe headers must be messed up.  becouse it can get to the page to log in.
16:32.24pcjwell it logs in and then does a meta refresh to the destination page
16:35.39laurlygot it not a clue what the diffrence is.  but its not showing the data in the text filed hmm
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16:40.17laurlyhmm bet the webserver hides the values to the forms someplace ..
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16:42.54laurlywoot it works !
16:43.41pcjnice
16:45.13laurly2 pcj's isnt one enough?
16:45.25pcjone's at home and one's at work
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16:48.03pcjhi kirkburn
16:48.07laurlywhy do i have a feeling everthing i have done today was the easy part of this.
16:48.12laurlyhail Kirkburn
16:48.12Kirkburnmorning
16:48.24laurlyits 6 thats not morning.
16:48.28winkillerhehe
16:48.39winkiller1h till end of work \o/
16:48.42KirkburnLook at my IP :P
16:48.58laurlyno thanks i dont want to look at your IP  hit up some other girl.
16:49.11pcjCalifornia?
16:49.37Kirkburnlaurly, I've already hit up DuTempete, that's enough for me :)
16:49.40Kirkburnpcj, indeed
16:50.09KirkburnWikia meetings
16:50.13laurlyi got php to login to wowwiki :)
16:50.36laurlyand its less then 100 lines of code to boot
16:50.38KirkburnWhat's been going on then over the past day?
16:50.42Kirkburnlaurly, cool
16:51.15laurlyspent an hour trying to get kaspasky unban the server, 1 hour to install mediawiki, the rest fighting with this.  busy day
16:52.05laurly1 pot of coffie to many sigs and forgot to eat  i fail
16:52.10pcjlol
16:53.06laurlycigs <> sigs
16:53.20laurlyso she logs in what to do next...
16:53.57laurlykirk has anyone else set up a bot to auto scan the guild pages against armory since laurlybot did?
16:54.34pcjno don't think so
16:55.13laurlyguess i could start with that that shouldnt take long since i already have a php armory xml paraphraser coded
16:58.52KirkburnI have to go now, laptop annoying me again
16:58.57KirkburnBack later
16:59.51laurlypcj on a side note i had a thought. if we put the quest id or npc id in the little link for bot page requests the bot could be sure to always grabe the right quest for the page. would be easer to code
17:00.13pcji know foxbot looks at elinks-item if there's a disambiguation
17:00.51laurlycould do something like that then but it will mean reediting the quest pages to add it.
17:01.09pcjsure
17:01.21laurlydont do it now im gong to have to recode it for php.
17:01.45laurlythen it can run off the server and there wont be issues with it takeing up my pc while its running.
17:02.02pcjyay
17:02.39laurlythats why i havent reinstalled it.
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17:10.13menoblackhi all
17:10.29Oseuhm, so i'm trying to get AWB to mark some pages for deletion, but the wiki (in the AWB window) says that i'm adding new external links, and I need to write a code seen on a image, which I can't see at all...
17:10.31Osehalp
17:10.38menoblackcan someone send me a Scroll of Resurrection?
17:10.56Osemaybe...
17:10.57menoblacklike to try the game again for a bit ;)
17:11.19Osecan I so it with a frozen account?
17:11.38menoblackno, else I would send 1 to myself :P
17:12.09Oseyou on EU or US?
17:12.26menoblackeu
17:12.51Oseno can do without paying myself :P
17:12.55Osechecked
17:13.06Oseyou'll have to ask someone else
17:13.29menoblacksomeone else here then, else I'll look for another channel
17:14.37Osebut can anyone please explain why the wiki thinks {{sd}} is an external link?
17:14.49PhotoJimit's too bad North Americans can't easily use the EU servers.  it would be fun to game with the Europeans. :)
17:15.21laurlylol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuSBCIV1zuQ
17:15.26OseI think theyr'e gonna make test servers international :D
17:15.33Osesome day...
17:15.42PhotoJimthat'd be nice.
17:15.54PhotoJimI have a character on an Oceanic server so I can game with the Aussies occasionally :) but I don't play it that often.
17:18.26VarghedinI have a friend who plays on EU server who lives in Florida
17:19.10PhotoJimhow does he do that?  uses a European account?
17:19.43VarghedinYep
17:20.41Oselaggy though
17:21.02PhotoJimyes, entirely possible that it is
17:21.08PhotoJimthe Oceanic server is good for me, about 90-100 ms
17:21.22PhotoJimI played via mobile phone the other day when my Internet went down.  1100 ms.  but it worked. :)
17:21.28PhotoJimGSM EDGE.
17:21.55Osewhat's the <span> code thingy I need to use to reduce space between lines?
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18:58.19Adysbig wtf at that
18:58.21Adyshttp://www.google.fr/search?q=march+4th&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a
18:58.34Adys5th result: Downtime Today, March 4th - WOW Insider
19:01.56VesitinSo Gary Gygax died.  But at least the reddit thread is rife with relevant humour.
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19:06.55laurlydidnt get into raid :(
19:07.48laurlynow do i code more or do i go pick flowers
19:08.38pcjhmm what kind of flowers
19:09.06laurlyones for flasks
19:09.13pcjah
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19:19.47equiraptoroh, my. totally off topic, but I can't stop laughing, so have to share...
19:19.49equiraptorhttp://www.greenknickers.org/
19:20.00equiraptorOrganic, fair trade underwear. Safe-for-workness questionable.
19:20.09PhotoJimGary Gygax died.  (co-author of Dungeons & Dragons)
19:20.11equiraptorAll images on the front page are SFW, though.
19:20.19pcjthank you equiraptor that's very enlightening
19:20.33equiraptorIt's not supposed to be enlightening! You're supposed to LAUGH! :-P
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19:21.11equiraptor"The daisy blossoms to
19:21.12equiraptorwhite as the knickers warm up."
19:21.30pcjAre they biodegradable?
19:21.54equiraptorIt doesn't say. :(
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19:23.57pcjthe boxers are...interesting
19:24.22equiraptorThe ruffly panties are... just... scary.
19:24.58Vesitini'm gonna try to farm for my twink sword and dagger now
19:25.02Vesitini'll be watching chat tho
19:34.11Vesitinheh i kept getting stuck in combat in the courtyard of SFK last night so i couldn't drink
19:34.17VesitinI Just realized I can use invisibility to get out of combat.
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19:36.30Vesitinwhat do you guys think of Mindthrust Bracers? level 17 cloth BOE bracers...+9 intellect but - (that's MINUS) 5 Stam
19:37.29laurlyim to tired to be playing with regular expressions
19:44.04Oselaurly, what engine does laurlybot use?
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19:48.57laurlyorignal one is VB
19:49.04laurlytrying to redo it in php
19:50.42Osekk
19:51.01OseYES!
19:51.15Oseit's working!
20:08.06laurlyOse whats the bot coded in?
20:08.20OseAWB :D
20:08.34Osenoob bots ftw
20:09.29laurlythis channel has to many bots. they talk more then the ppl
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20:09.48equiraptorYou're saying I need to spout more random BS?
20:10.03laurlywhy not adys does it all the time.
20:10.17equiraptorWoooot!
20:10.39Adyshttp://devcub.com/~adys/public/elmerfuddwtf.png
20:12.43laurlyLOL
20:13.26laurlyohh i have adys's gmail account now..... oh so does the rest of my guild since i just posted it to the forums.
20:13.32equiraptorhah
20:13.58AdysI got a good dozen of gmail accounts
20:14.13laurlykewl then /me wonders off to submit it to random sites form mails.
20:14.20Adyslol
20:14.25AdysI got a gmail account dedicated to that
20:14.30Adysadys.snm@gmail.com
20:14.57laurlythats what my hotmail account is for now since i some how got  on some mailing list for a spanish site and cant figure out how to remove myself since i cant read the crap
20:15.00Adyshavent checked the spam on it since a while
20:16.10pcjdid you really have to look up elmer fudd on wikipedia adys
20:16.22Adysdude we dont use the same names in france
20:16.39Adysi grew up with the french cartoons :(
20:16.57PhotoJimelmew fudd is happy now that he has a fiwewiwe cawd
20:17.10Adyshahah
20:18.10Adyslove google's spam parsers :)
20:18.31Adysthey send random complicated mail addresses to spammers to automatically recieve spam and flag it as such
20:18.49Adysshould have thought of it a while ago
20:19.31PhotoJimthat's a good idea.
20:19.33Adysspeaking of gmail
20:19.34Adyshttp://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2008/03/arrow-indicators-reveal-who-actually.html
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20:21.20Adyshttp://lifehacker.com/363278/get-to-gmail-in-one-keystroke
20:21.28Valrosehh, i use inbox.com just about the same as gmail, not as known and not as much space
20:22.01Adyswhy would you not use gmail
20:22.26AdysTheir web interface is the cleanest of them all, couldnt care more about the gigabytes i dont use
20:22.43ValrosI was originally going to use it but the username i wanted was taken
20:22.56ValrosInbox has just as clean of a web interface
20:22.58AdysGoogle Apps \o/
20:23.09Osegawd making these lists is BORING!
20:23.13PhotoJimyou can be xbk1c9312ll5@gmail.com if you like. :)
20:23.23Valroslol no thanks
20:23.39PhotoJimI just registered a domain name and set up postfix.  I can be any address I want at my domain now.
20:24.08Valrospostfix?
20:24.34*** part/#wowwiki Yasutora (n=Josh@ool-43540634.dyn.optonline.net)
20:24.40PhotoJimyup.  it's a mail transport agent.
20:24.45PhotoJimit runs under Linux/BSD/Unix.
20:25.12ValrosOk, makes sense, you just forward it to gmail, you're not using the domain for web hosting...
20:25.50ValrosYa the site im woking on uses a server that runs linux, free hosting, I cant complain, Linux FTW
20:26.09AdysWhy would you not use linux for a web server.
20:26.20foxlitAdys: why would you not use gmail
20:26.24ValrosAsk microsoft, they use some linux servers
20:26.26foxlitGoogle reads your email. zomg.
20:26.36AdysMac OS X server is remotely acceptable
20:26.40PhotoJimno, I don't use gmail at all.  I just use imap and host my email at home.
20:26.44Adysbut windows server, no way
20:26.51Adysfoxlit, oh no
20:27.10Valros\
20:27.13AdysGCeiling is watching me mast.. er
20:27.18Valroslol
20:27.45Osecan any admin mark OseBot as an bot?
20:27.50foxlitno
20:27.50AdysIronically was just reading http://googlepublicpolicy.blogspot.com/2008/03/why-data-matters.html
20:27.52Valrosthat darn google, now getting into smartphones, o noez
20:27.58Osewai?
20:28.03AdysOse: Only kirkburn and fandy
20:28.03foxlit(not "any")
20:28.09Osekk
20:28.53ValrosYay Firefox
20:28.55AdysYou really should separate cookies from different services. I have a Firefox account for simple browsing where I don't let Google set a cookie (which breaks the image search for "unsafe"), an account for Gmail/Reader/etc, and one where I let everything set cookies which get deleted on browser close
20:29.28AdysI love how commenters go on the PPB to say "Google doesnt save my porn settings right"
20:29.33ValrosI use Firefox for everything, HATE IE
20:29.46Valroslol
20:30.37ValrosMozilla is working on a mobile version of Firefox, hope that turns out well, many are fighting against it tooth and nail
20:30.52Adysitll be great
20:31.21laurlypersonaly i find: Firebug is known to make Gmail slow unless it is configured correctly. Fix this   Hide
20:31.23laurlyfunny
20:32.05AdysInternet Explorer is known to make websites suck unless it is fully uninstalled. Fix this.
20:32.09Valrosi like my addons small and simple, theme, IRC chat, color picker, stumble upon
20:32.26AdysSU and Firebug here
20:32.29Adysgreasemonkey sometimes
20:32.50ValrosInternet Explorer is known to FAIL on many aspects of its existence.
20:33.35laurlyyeah but it sucks home banking and internet payment sites dont work in firefox.  so i have to use IE for them.
20:33.46ValrosI cant speak of Opera and Safari but I hear they're right below Firefox if not above on opinion.
20:33.59Adysspoof user agents laurly
20:34.05Adysvalros, they are both great
20:34.16Adyssafari is great only on mac os x but its still great
20:34.27Adysopera is good for a lot of people
20:34.56Adysand really honestly, coming from someone who worked on some parts of firefox, opera is better than ff2 :P
20:35.09ValrosYou guys hear Netscape is going out, they're discontinuing support for it. That and Microsoft is slashing Vista prices, Hmm I wonder why.
20:35.32Adysits all part of the General Conspiration
20:36.22Valros"In a world with no walls or fences, who the hell needs windows or gates" Dont know original source but I like it  :D
20:37.07Dottedlaurly get a proper bank
20:37.09foxlitIt only works until you figure out that someone walked though the wall that wasn't there and took all your stuff
20:38.15Adysfoxlit: Set them on fire
20:38.19AdysFIREWALL AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
20:38.36Adyssorry I have to catch up with the bs laurly says Im saying daily
20:41.20ValrosSooooo......any discussion on possible new exapnsions, playable characters, hero classes?
20:42.59ValrosI wish to see the next expansion open up the islands of the south seas and Pandaria
20:47.54pcjno
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20:49.56Ose~seen Kirkburn
20:49.58infobotkirkburn <n=Kirkburn@67.97.190.3> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowwiki, 3h 51m 1s ago, saying: 'Back later'.
20:49.58Ose~seen Fandyllic
20:49.59infobotfandyllic <n=fancylli@adsl-70-231-159-240.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowwiki, 43d 22h 58m 11s ago, saying: 'laters'.
20:50.36Adys~seen adys
20:50.37infobotadys is currently on #debian (1d 1h 27m 9s) #wowi-lounge (1d 1h 27m 9s) #android (1d 1h 27m 9s) #kde (1d 1h 27m 9s) #infobot (1d 1h 27m 9s) #norganna (1d 1h 27m 9s) #idlerpg (1d 1h 27m 9s) #wowace (1d 1h 27m 9s) #wowwiki (1d 1h 27m 9s). Has said a total of 160 messages. Is idling for 1s, ...
20:50.39Ose43 days?
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20:51.01Osedid I spell fandyllic right?
20:51.08Adysyes, he never comes on irc
20:51.34Osestoopid
20:54.07ValrosRandom question, what level mining do you need to mine Fel Ore
20:54.31Osephew...
20:54.43OseI dunno
20:54.43Adys295 ?
20:54.51Ose[[Fel Ore]]
20:54.55ValrosYa probably 295
20:54.59Adysoh read Fel Iron
20:55.10Ose[[Fel Iron]]
20:55.11ValrosFel Iron ya
20:55.30Ose~seen NewsBot
20:55.31infobotOse: i haven't seen 'newsbot'
20:55.38ValrosTraining mining in Burning Steppes right now
20:55.59Osemuhaha! recent changes is MINEEEEEEE!
20:58.48Vesitins6sqsssswwsss
20:59.01Vesitinsorry was trying to back up and cast fireblast didn't realise i was in this room
20:59.25equiraptorhaha :)
20:59.36Osehmm...
20:59.37ValrosL-O-L
21:00.00Osehttp://www.crispygamer.com/comics/ding/page0008.aspx
21:00.59ValrosI noticed that the main images for each page are 650x400, is this the standard, ive been uploading in 768x576, ive seen little difference in the size of the image at 90% quality. Or should the 650x400 be absoulute.
21:01.09foxlit"If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck... it could be a terrorist. Shoot it either way!"
21:02.29equiraptorMmm, duck for dinner.
21:03.47ValrosMmm, terrorist for dinner.
21:05.43laurlyhttp://dwarfpriest.com/2008/02/21/priest-dps/ LOL check the healing flowchar
21:06.00laurlyDPSing as a holy priest? Yawn.
21:08.28Vesitinlol I just got a "Defender Cloak of Defense" and I find the redundancy amazing
21:08.37DuTempeteOsy, what did you need Kirkburn or Fandy for?
21:09.14laurlythink he needs his bot taged.
21:09.49DuTempetethat's bureaucrat only?
21:10.24Adysyes
21:10.29kd3ya. admins can't mess with bot tags
21:10.44Adysthose creeps dont have any trust within us
21:10.58Osepoor you...
21:11.00DuTempeteAh, well Kirkburn is having laptop issues
21:11.12AdysI bet the laptop is having kirkburn issues too
21:11.27DuTempeteSo, if he is around at all, it won't really be until later tonight
21:11.44Adys(hey, DuTempete, tell him to install linux just for fun, bring a camera btw)
21:12.28DuTempetebring a camera?
21:12.46Adyswell fine then :(
21:12.58DuTempeteYour best luck, Ose, will be in dropping Fandy a line on his talk page
21:13.07Osekk
21:13.46DuTempeteAdys, if you're under the opinion that simply because Kirk is in the US that he's with me, you're mistaken :P
21:13.57Adyscome on US are small
21:14.06DuTempete...
21:14.12AdysWALK
21:14.15AdysLAZY
21:14.31Adysand swim when hes in europe!
21:14.49AdysAny xml pr0leet here ?
21:19.13foxlit~asktoask
21:19.13infobotThis is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help.
21:19.34AdysI just wanted to know if there was an xml pr0leet here, foxlit
21:19.46PhotoJimis it okay if I ask about whether it's okay to ask a question?
21:19.54foxlitI shudder at the though of anyone self-identifying as a "pr0leet"
21:20.01foxlitBut good luck with that.
21:20.12Adyssame foxlit, thats why I wanted to make sure there werent any in the chan
21:20.26AdysAnd I am happy to see that we are still a good community
21:20.43foxlitYou don't expect me to buy that.
21:21.04AdysWhy, are you a pr0leet?
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21:21.29Adysspeaking of the pr0
21:23.15Sky2042_afkpr0n wear!?!
21:26.19Osecheezy...
21:26.38Oseyummy yummy grilled cheeze
21:27.12Osesky, why won't the wiki let me {{sd}} tag stuff with AWB?
21:28.08PhotoJimwhy make grilled cheese when you can make beer-basted boar ribs?
21:28.27Sky2042_afkOse: what do you mean?
21:29.42Osesoemhow, it finds out that a {{sd}} tag somehow includes external links, which brings up a image with a code I need to write down. But before it even loads, AWB takes me to the next edit...
21:30.14Osecan you understand what I wrote?
21:30.26Osea bit messy :P
21:31.15Sky2042_afkturn it off the "ignore changes if no edit made" option, for the 2nd part of that, so we can troubleshoot. =]
21:33.38Sky2042_afkhmmm...
21:33.51Osewhere is that option?
21:34.19Sky2042_afkuh...
21:34.38Sky2042_afki'm going to kill you ose ;_;
21:34.44Oseanyways all the bloodelf templates are ready to be deleted
21:34.48Ose:P
21:34.59Sky2042_afkyou made it link to "Bloodelf". Fix that first.
21:35.20Sky2042_afkbecause that shouldn't be a link.
21:36.33Osewhat do you mean? should it link to "Blood elf"?
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21:36.59Sky2042_afkyes
21:37.05Sky2042_afkBloodelf is a link that should be deleted.
21:37.24Sky2042_afkand is only a link because that template used to require it's linkage thusly.
21:38.38Oseokiedokie
21:39.38Osewill do soon, just finishing off gnomes
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21:40.39Sky2042_afkwait, did you actually get template replacement to work or is that just the summary you in put?
21:41.41Osewhut?
21:42.43Osewhoops, I think I accidentally wrote {{sd}} in a couple changes -.-
21:42.53Osesummary...
21:43.01Sky2042_afkthe bots' edit summary says "template replacement". is that the input summary or is that automatic?
21:43.21Oseinput I think
21:43.48Sky2042_afkso you typed "template replacement" in somewhere. is that correct?
21:44.07Oseyes, I think so...
21:44.15Osetired...
21:45.15Osegnomes done
21:46.59Osewouldn't it be easier just to write an IF in the classcombo template which would make bloodelf look like Blood elf?
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21:47.45Sky2042_afkit's not an issue of how it looks, it's an issue of where it links. and that's extra coding for no reason.
21:48.14Oseok
21:52.04AdysOkay
21:52.07Adyshttp://www.wowwiki.com/User:Adys/Item:0/XML
21:52.17Adysdescriptions are not done, but I wont change anything for now
21:52.40Adysid like to know if anyone has better propositions concerning the xml tree
21:52.57Adysmainly the nqmes, stats, dmgs, resists and spells
21:53.01Adysnames*
22:01.08Kalroththat's for item.dbc?
22:01.53Kalrothah yes it is
22:09.57Fisker-I killed you mr. Adys
22:10.01Fisker-i watched you die
22:11.05AdysKalroth: Actually i havent checked item.dbc yet :P
22:11.34Adysits for itemcache
22:12.08Adysgonna start doing other files soonish
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22:16.23Sky2042_afkhell soufron!
22:16.24Sky2042_afkhello*
22:16.26Sky2042_afk>.>
22:17.58AdysIDIOTIC CAPTCHASS
22:18.16AdysLearn to stop using IDENTICAL 0 and O in captchas
22:18.23AdysPARTICULARLY IF ITS CASE SENSITIVE
22:18.50Adysdone with today's rant
22:19.11PhotoJimI liked when computers put slashes through zeroes.  it was easier to discern.
22:19.17Adysyeah
22:19.39Sky2042_afkAdys: truth.
22:21.05ValrosSomeone "cracked" googles captcha...
22:23.37AdysNot someone, an entire team
22:23.44Adysand thats besides the point since they fixed it :p
22:24.01Adys[22:58:45] <nerdygirl_ellie> Hi!  My power button doesn't pull up the "shut down" menu anymore.  Can someone on HH try it and see if it pulls up the menu for them?  I don't know if I broke something or I need to open a ticket..
22:24.02Adys[22:59:07] *** [nerdygirl_ellie] (n=ellie@209.168.199.178) #ubuntu+1 #gaygeeks END OF WHOIS
22:24.09Adys*dont wanna know
22:25.07Sky2042_afklooooooooooooooooooooool
22:28.05Adysactually, Sky2042_afk
22:28.16Adyscan you whois me and tell me if Im in any other chan than ww ?
22:28.31Sky2042_afka lot of other chans.
22:28.41Adysmsg me my whois please
22:28.47Sky2042_afkhow does that not drive ou crazy?
22:28.57AdysI dont read half of them
22:29.20Adysand Im not supposed to show up in the other chans if you're not in them, gah
22:36.09PhotoJimbbl
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22:42.42laurlyhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=34009 new toy :)
22:43.20pcjgrats laurly
22:44.56Dotted|Pixel|
22:44.57Dotted!
22:45.32laurlydam soulfrost is expensive.
22:47.10Sky2042_afkl2tailorimo
22:50.55laurlyam tailor :)
22:53.17laurlynight all.
22:54.30Sky2042_afkoh this is going to be a joy.
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22:55.50|Pixel|?
22:57.30Sky2042_afkoh wow. AWB is so much faster... o_o
22:58.13AdysSky2042_afk: What`s awb exactly, an desktop app, a web interface...?
22:58.30Sky2042_afkSemi-automated editing program for MediaWikis.
22:58.35Adysyeah I know that
22:58.45Sky2042_afkor automated, if the account it's editing under is a bot.
22:58.47Sky2042_afkum.
22:58.59Sky2042_afklinking you http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:AWB that way
22:59.05Adysok
23:00.31Adys.net frameyuck ><
23:01.44Sky2042_afkAdys: I agree, but they didn't have what they needed iwth Firefox, and I doubt Opera or another either.
23:03.13Adysffs sourceforge sucks :(
23:03.15Varghedini keep getting logged off wowwiki now when I idle
23:03.23AdysVarghedin: Oo
23:03.26Sky2042_afkoh god, we're going to completely reskin wowwiki... =[
23:03.31Sky2042_afkto have to*
23:03.49Varghedinwhy?
23:04.13Sky2042_afkwith the upgrade we lose the Wowwiki skin.
23:04.50AdysNot like it's hard to put it back
23:04.54Varghedinwhat does the flayed version look like? White?
23:04.59Adysyeah wikipedish
23:05.07Sky2042_afkin monobook
23:05.15Sky2042_afkin monaco it's a dark blue with the same gold as wowwiki.
23:05.28Adysmonobook is default
23:05.35Sky2042_afknot on the test.
23:05.41Sky2042_afkand certainly not for general users.
23:06.00Adysdont tell me that curse bs layout still exists
23:06.22Sky2042_afk?
23:06.29Adysand monobook is default on mediawiki platforms
23:06.42Adysnot talking specifics here
23:06.52Sky2042_afk"eh"
23:06.57Adysand arent the skin files like 3-4 anyway?
23:06.58amrowikia has a weird default
23:07.20*** topic/#wowwiki by Adys -> Chan rules: http://tinyurl.com/36u82j - UI questions: #wowi-lounge - We are an official fan site, obey the ToU! || Bored? Help with the http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Zone_category_project ! | When you talk about megabits and broadband, you have no idea what that does to me.
23:07.30Adysforgot to do that yday
23:08.07amrowhy?
23:08.19Adysjfgi :p
23:08.27amroalice sucks?
23:13.39DottedAdys what about gigabits?
23:13.48Adysask wikipedia
23:14.01Dottedlolwut?
23:14.04Adysin france we prefer gibibits
23:14.09Adysor bibits in general
23:14.23Adys(amro will understand and hopefully will be the only one, lame jokes ftl)
23:14.32Adysdotted, google that quote
23:15.30amrobah you should attend an assembly class, with all the talk about bits
23:16.05Adyswtf, there are assembly classes in france?
23:16.24amronope, in algeria
23:16.29Adyswanna trade towns? ill give you some bits
23:17.13amroyou dont have assembly classes there?
23:17.19Adysno
23:17.27Adyswell, we have assembly classes
23:17.32Adysbut we bit more than we assemble
23:17.41Adysif you see what i mean :/
23:19.40amrosame here. haven't been to uni all week. for some stupid reason if you never show up at class you're excluded from taking the exam
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23:21.49ValrosNot knowledgeable with HTML, can someone help me with a Sig
23:22.02Adyssure
23:22.31amrobe original and use kirkburn's
23:22.48ValrosWithout making a template, can I and how would I display my sig as an image, such as creating it in the preferences options.
23:23.12pcjyou mean display an image in your sig?
23:23.14Adysyou make it a template
23:23.36ValrosOk,
23:24.08DottedAdys that was a waste of life
23:24.17Adyswhat was?
23:26.49AdysWHAT WTF
23:26.50Adyshttp://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Firefox_Logo.jpg
23:26.56AdysWHO DID THAT ARFG JPGGGGG
23:27.29Sky2042_afkAdys: ?
23:27.40Adyspngs for logos if svg is not avail :/
23:27.59Dottedlol at norwegian guy
23:28.18ValrosDo sigs accept the PNG format
23:28.23Adysyes
23:28.26ValrosCool
23:28.31Adysdotted wut
23:28.44DottedAdys ose == norewegian
23:28.51Adyslol
23:30.06ValrosWhats a good height for a sig image, 18 Pixels, I'm hoping for the most i can get without it being obviously larger.
23:30.22Adystry 16
23:30.28Adysnot over that
23:30.52Sky2042_afkinline with normal text size would be preferable.
23:30.55DottedValros 100px+ is optimal
23:31.52ValrosK, i hope I can reasonably fit the image i want down to that size.
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23:37.59Varghedinwho me?
23:39.09Sky2042_afkyayou.
23:39.14Varghedinorly?
23:39.22Sky2042_afkYARLY
23:39.28Sky2042_afkanyway, really afk now.
23:39.37Varghedinkay
23:43.03ValrosHUH!?....wowwiki is down for me, unable to forward request, is it that busy today?
23:44.11ValrosAm I the only one with this problem.
23:44.18DeksterErrors for me too.
23:44.26DeksterJust started a few mins ago.
23:45.42ValrosHuh...
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23:49.10Gourraanyone else got problems with the wiki?
23:49.36Varghedinyep
23:50.18ValrosWeird, hope all my 20 edits don't go to waste lol
23:51.26kd3whee squid just went splat
23:51.49Dottedlol epic quote
23:52.44kd3all of wikia went splat. techs working on it now
23:56.05pcjcalamari anyone?
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23:56.22VarghedinIakovos was afraid of the things that went splat in the night
23:59.30Valrosk, wiki's back up
23:59.51ValrosThat last edit of mine was apparently made of FAIL

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