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01:00.13Fisker-be afraid Kirkburn
01:00.51Kirkburnk
01:01.28Fisker-you had earthquakes rawr
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02:12.07gothrikhey
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02:15.03Kirkburn|sleepFisker-, indeed so
02:15.15Kirkburn|sleep(was busy talking about it elsewhere)
02:15.19Kirkburn|sleepBut now, I'm off to bed
02:15.25Kirkburn|sleepI leave you with - http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/26/serious-drama-and-lots-of-stupidity-behind-stage6-shutdown/
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03:52.41eodchopHello
03:53.35eodchopCan anyone recommend a good mod for finding location coordinates. I see a lot of coordinates to find.
03:53.39eodchopLocations
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04:54.54sacarascis there a page that has all the different class/races base attrubutes at level 70?
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05:14.52bhairavais wow europe down ?
05:20.06bhairavais wow europe down ?
05:20.28bhairavawww.wow-europe.com doesnt answer, also the servers are offline
05:20.37bhairavaanyone knows what happens ?
05:22.31bhairavaah, its announced maintenance.
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05:49.58Lukianbhairava, orly? :p
05:50.14Lukianwell that was unexpected wan't it? :P
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06:54.26Sky2042_afkhmm
06:55.39Sky2042_afkwell, that's interesting.
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09:53.37elusifi'm doing my weekly backup of the WTF folder in C:\Users\Dáire\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files\World of Warcraft but i now have a WTF dir and a 'WTF - Copy' dir. can anyone tell me what i should do?
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10:01.30fricwow only reads from the wtf folder, so if everything seems ok you can delete the copy
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11:51.59Adysnew monitors :D
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13:07.19KirkburnMorning all!
13:15.56winkillerffs, stage6 going down really sucks
13:16.02winkillerbest streams I ever saw
13:17.26Kirkburnwinkiller, stupid isn't it
13:17.31KirkburnSee the link I posted last night?
13:17.41Kirkburnhttp://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/26/serious-drama-and-lots-of-stupidity-behind-stage6-shutdown/
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13:24.43winkillerouch
13:24.55winkilleresp. bad for warrcaftmovies I guess
13:25.17winkillerand thus.. me :(
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13:38.05Adys"And that share was growing - 2008 toolbar revenues may have been as high as $10 million, making Stage6 almost breakeven."
13:38.18Adyslolreadtwicebeforepublishing
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14:29.58hermanthegerman1hi
14:33.48hermanthegerman1ive got a problem with playing wow on linux which i cant solve with any of the directions of your troubleshooting guide
14:35.39PhotoJimit's difficult to get running, unfortunately.
14:35.43equiraptorWell, do you want to describe the symptoms, or just sit here staring at at empty screen? ;P
14:35.49hermanthegerman1:D
14:35.59hermanthegerman1i just wait for an answer
14:36.01hermanthegerman1so
14:36.05hermanthegerman1my problem is
14:36.20equiraptorI doubt I'll be much help, as my experience with wine is from ~5 years ago. But better to describe and hope than sit there. :)
14:37.19hermanthegerman1after choosing the char i want to play and enter the world of warcraft my game crashs
14:37.37hermanthegerman1without entering the world
14:38.46hermanthegerman1the game loads the enviroment, but when its complete -> crash
14:39.29hermanthegerman1the load screen freezes and the sound goes on like a broken cd
14:39.32PhotoJimthat's the point at which most people have their difficulty.
14:40.00equiraptorI assume you've checked all your logs?
14:40.00hermanthegerman1i already try to help myself with the troubleshootingguide
14:40.05equiraptorDoes wine keep a log?
14:40.21hermanthegerman1i use cedega
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14:40.44equiraptorOh, then make them support you. Isn't WoW one of their supported apps? :)
14:41.29hermanthegerman1w8 mom i'll check a thing
14:45.08hermanthegerman1hm ^^
14:45.41hermanthegerman1if i start my wow version installed in cedega with my wineemulator, the game runs fluently ...
14:46.02equiraptorheh, nutty. :/
14:46.02hermanthegerman1there are only a few grafic bugs
14:46.05Osedo we have a .gif with Illidans demonic WC3 animation?
14:46.38PhotoJimyup, cedega specifically states WoW should run, so I'd hit them up for support.  that's the point of paying for cedega versus using wine.
14:46.53Osewe have a pre.demonic gif, http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Illidan_Anim.gif
14:48.53hermanthegerman1hmm but now i'm in the right channel to get some support :D
14:49.34hermanthegerman1instead of this i think i dont need any support at the moment ^^
14:49.57equiraptor1) We're not paid to support you. The people at cedega are. 2) What percentage of us do you think actually run WoW in Cedega, much less have enough experience with it to have experienced your problem?
14:49.57Fisker-Dotted
14:50.07DottedFisker-
14:51.12equiraptorThat doesn't mean you're not welcome to try, but thinking of it as "the right channel for support with WoW on Linux" isn't exactly a good understanding of the channel, I suspect.
14:51.34hermanthegerman1that was just a kind of a joke ;)
14:51.52hermanthegerman1because you said "we cant support you while youre using cedga"
14:52.02hermanthegerman1however
14:52.15hermanthegerman1it seems to me like ive done it
14:52.36Fisker-Dotted
14:52.36equiraptorI didn't say we can't. I said you'd probably get better support from people more familiar with the app.
14:52.39equiraptor:-P
14:52.45Dotteddie
14:52.45Fisker-folk er retarderet igen
14:53.00Fisker-http://ekstrabladet.dk/nyheder/samfund/article979021.ece <-hej skat
14:53.56Fisker-selvfølgelig hvorfor trække det over skatten, så skulle de jo pludselig have mindre penge :<
14:54.01PhotoJimI personally have never used cedega, so I can't provide any specific assistance.  I use Linux extensively, but I prefer to run applications in their native operating systems.
14:54.28hermanthegerman1however, however, however ^^ i think there is a problem in my communication ^^ im not good at english
14:54.48Fisker-vi skal måske have en masse penge Dotted :O
14:54.57Dotted:O?
14:55.24Fisker-Kommunen brød flere lovgivninger end du kan spise pizzaer på en time
14:55.27Fisker-:O
14:56.02Fisker-Så de har et valg, blive sagsøgt af en masse menneker for flere millioner eller nøjes med at give os et par millioner :D
14:56.11Dotted:O
14:56.12Dotted'
14:56.14Dotted!
14:56.50Dottedjamen send nogle over til mig så jeg kan købe noget nyt HW til newsbot
14:56.57Fisker-næ
14:57.10Fisker-De skal også bruge dem på et nyt hus anyways
14:57.10Fisker-:o
14:58.18Fisker-så skal de bare få hus hvor der er optisk fiber :P
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15:06.57VindheimerHello!
15:07.24dmorMorning Vindheimer
15:07.35VindheimerBreaking news! Hamas sends bunny to kill Danish people!
15:07.48Vindheimerhttp://www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/2008/02/26/528110.html
15:08.05VindheimerBeware, Dotted! Allah's bunny will get you!
15:09.11Fisker-noone cares
15:09.32dmorCan you say off-topic...
15:11.19VindheimerHey, I think that is interesting.
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15:13.07Gourra(un)fortunately nobody else does
15:13.10KirkburnTo lighten the mood - http://www.explosm.net/comics/1189/
15:13.54VindheimerKeke.
15:14.31KirkburnSometimes I wonder how I sentence would turn out if you did tab name complete for every word :P I wonder whether you'd be able to work out what was being said :)
15:14.41Kirkburn*a sentence
15:16.16Vindheimer"did tab name complete"?
15:16.25JerkKirkburn infobot A2 Jerk
15:16.27Jerk:D
15:16.37Kirkburnlol
15:16.48KirkburnThat was kinda obvious :)
15:17.43VindheimerKirkburn, what do you mean?
15:19.21DottedVindheimer infobot A2 ralfWORK Napsterbater
15:20.24Dottedalso i care not Vindheimer
15:20.25VindheimerWhat?!
15:20.39Dottedi dont care :o
15:20.50VindheimerNo, not that
15:20.58Dottedonly shows what a bunch of laughable people they are
15:20.59VindheimerThe masterbater thing
15:21.25Dotted[@Kirkburn]: Sometimes I wonder how I sentence would turn out if you did tab name complete for every word :P I wonder whether you'd be able to work out what was being said :)
15:21.54VindheimerI still don't understand what you mean...
15:22.04Dottedfor the best probably
15:22.27Kirkburn(best not to continue with pinging people that way btw)
15:22.34Dottedi dont care :o
15:22.41DuTempeteKirkburn Kirkburn Kirkburn Kirkburn
15:22.49KirkburnWell, that's okay :P
15:22.49Fisker-Kirkburn Kirkburn Kirkburn Kirkburn
15:22.50Fisker-gogo
15:22.52VindheimerDe gjer meg vonbråten, Dotted.
15:22.53DottedKirkburn KKK? OMG DuTempete!!!!11
15:22.57KirkburnPing me all you want :P
15:23.01DuTempete(bet you can't guess what I was trying to say)
15:23.04KirkburnDuTempete!
15:23.15VindheimerDon't tell me...
15:23.21Vindheimer" I am pregnant?"
15:23.31Fisker-yes you are pregnant
15:23.35DottedVindheimer doenst start with K's you nab
15:24.18KirkburnDuTempete, was it Kirkburn Kirkburn Kirkburn Kirkburn?
15:24.27VindheimerOk, me no funny :(
15:24.32Dottedno
15:25.26VindheimerPerhaps you/we can get to the point? We ought to move on instead of having this strange conversation.
15:25.44Dottedno
15:26.10Vindheimerno
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15:26.36DuTempeteKirkburn, YES!
15:27.43Kirkburnomg!
15:27.47Dottedfail
15:28.19DottedCair-enn|afk sacar-asc Parado-x
15:28.28Dottedignore the -'s
15:28.30VindheimerCongratulations!
15:28.41Dottedguess Kirkburn!
15:28.42Dottedgo
15:28.44Dotted5 seconds
15:28.45Dotted4
15:28.46Dotted3
15:28.47Dotted2
15:28.48Dotted1
15:28.49Dotted0
15:28.52Dottedboooooooooooooh
15:28.57Vindheimer0.5?
15:29.04KirkburnI am, like, working
15:29.08Dottedno
15:29.09Dotted!
15:29.17VindheimerWhat are you working on, Kirkburn?
15:29.20Dottedit was crab some popcorn
15:29.33Dottedwith a b yes
15:29.41KirkburnOh, I knew that ... peasy :)
15:29.47Dottedidd
15:31.38VindheimerWell, let's give Kirkburn a rest for a while. He's probably busy.
15:34.40winkillereu armory is smashed
15:35.39VindheimerHow smashed?
15:36.48winkilleronly errors
15:36.50Kirkburn:P
15:36.51winkillerfor most chars
15:38.02VindheimerKirkburn, can I ask you a question of personal nature?
15:39.02KirkburnI don't know, can you?
15:39.29VindheimerMay I?
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15:40.29Fisker-:o Dotted
15:40.34Fisker-it appears someone got owned
15:40.38Dotted:O
15:40.40Dottedlink
15:40.54Fisker-irl://Fisker-
15:40.54Fisker-:P
15:41.07Fisker-The lawyer they sent couldn't even disagree :D
15:41.24Dottedlawl
15:41.48VindheimerBoys, boys...
15:42.43Fisker-http://ekstrabladet.dk/vrangen/article979041.ece <-haha i infoboxen
15:43.31VindheimerDet der var barnslig.
15:49.00VindheimerAnyway, have you joined the European fansite programme yet?
15:53.46Fisker-that's for n00bs
15:54.49Fisker-us fansite program is for the good sites
15:56.17VindheimerNonsense.
15:56.24Fisker-no
15:56.40VindheimerBesides, I see no reason why Wowwiki cannot join both
15:56.58VindheimerWe should have a European focus as well
15:57.22Fisker-it's a good thing it's not part of the european fansite program
15:58.46VindheimerPerhaps you can put forward some reasons for this stance?
16:00.01Fisker-Then they don't have to share the same page as worldofwar.net
16:00.44VindheimerI beg your pardon?
16:01.01Fisker-worldofwar.net is only a fansite on the european page
16:02.09VindheimerBeing part of the European fansite programme wouldn't mean that we would have to share the same page as them?
16:02.34Cairenn|afkhe means that on the fansite listing page on Blizzard
16:02.41Fisker-yeah
16:03.06VindheimerWell, I don't see anything wrong about being on the same list?
16:03.27Cairenn|afkand like many others, has absolutely no use whatsoever for their site, so doesn't want to be even that loosely associated with them
16:04.18Fisker-^^
16:04.47VindheimerRubbish. There is no association between the fansites.
16:05.09Fisker-of course not
16:05.13Fisker-but it's still on the list
16:05.19Fisker-and since it is, i'd rather not be part of that list
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16:05.59VindheimerWhat you are saying is silly.
16:06.06Cairenn|afkyou know, feeling dirty just by being in their presence?
16:07.07Cairenn|afkyou've never been somewhere and had someone you have no respect for at the same place and just because of that you feel like you need to go take a shower to scrub off the smell of them?
16:07.40pcjheh
16:07.46pcj!wwstats
16:08.19pcjgg
16:08.25VindheimerYou feel that worldofwarcraft.net is a such place?
16:08.28pcjwhere'd all the bots go
16:08.38pcjoh newsbot rather
16:09.16Fisker-worldofwar.net yes Vindheimer
16:09.41VindheimerCould you be so kind and elaborate?
16:09.51VindheimerWhat is the reason for why you deteste the place?
16:11.02Fisker-Because of it's tactics against sweeping their security issues under the rug, claiming users and experts are retards, and deleting their posts or banning them when making them aware of the problem
16:11.25Fisker-Accusing people who visit sites like wowhead, allakhazam and what not for supporting child molesting
16:12.11Cairenn|afkmass violation of author copyright
16:12.21Fisker-oh yeah and there's that too
16:12.27VindheimerHave you talked to the persons responsible for the European programme about this?
16:12.39Fisker-Of course
16:13.04Fisker-Sent them a post with various links to that information like the post Rushter made about the child molesting
16:13.10Fisker-That's a long time ago though
16:13.13Fisker-couple of months ago
16:13.24VindheimerYou talked to whom?
16:13.44Fisker-Just sent a webform to the community managers
16:13.51Fisker-i don't intrude by sending them mails personally
16:14.55VindheimerOf course not, but you did get a response?
16:15.02Fisker-no
16:15.13Fisker-also sent in again when they were compromised again
16:16.13VindheimerWell, there have been some issues with the webforms
16:16.20VindheimerI suggest that you send an email instead.
16:17.11VindheimerOr I would suggest a more informal aproach.
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16:54.55pcjhi dutempete
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16:58.17DuTempete_hi pcj :)
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18:13.27KirkburnCan Conservapedia go any further? http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Wikipedia_police&oldid=395564
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18:18.48equiraptorBwhahahahaha
18:19.02Kirkburn:)
18:19.07equiraptorMy username doesn't reflect my real name. This means I'm a child hiding behind a cloak of anonymity?
18:19.17equiraptor(which I probably misspelled, and can't pronounce)
18:20.26KasoJump to: navigation, search
18:20.26KasoThe Wikipedia police, or Wikipedia secret police, is a group of anonymous editors and administrators who quickly censor material that undermines the liberal and atheistic belief systems. This police has virtually no accountability to anyone and applies a complex set of rules in a completely one-sided manner.
18:20.58Kasos/Wikipedia/Conservapedia , s/liberal/conservative , s/atheistic/theistic
18:21.19KasoOh the finely polished mirror effect.
18:21.24Kirkburn:P
18:21.51KirkburnIt's facinating watching how Schlafly is getting more and more paranoid
18:22.32KirkburnI'm slightly worrying that it's actually going to get to the point where he'll truly need to get help
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18:23.12LogesticHello guys.
18:23.34KasoDo they have any strong beliefs about phycotherapy? is that a liberal conspiricy?
18:25.43KasoPsychotherapy i mean, i suck at spelling >.<
18:28.37DottedKirkburn Fisker- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmsaAGQ_Rkk :D:DD:D:D:D:D:D::DDD;D;;D;D;D;D:D:D:D:DD;D:DD;:;D:;D:;D:;D
18:28.57MalgaynePsychotherapy a liberal conspiracy?
18:29.56KasoIf it isnt yet it will be when Aschlafly is told he needs to get some
18:30.44Fisker-whats the point Dotted ?
18:31.39DottedFisker- massive failure due to using keyboard, grabbing a grey in casual mode and recording oneself with fraps
18:33.33Fisker-ah
18:33.43Fisker-keyboard is actually nice
18:33.48Kasoi still cant quite work out how that game works
18:33.50Fisker-but you'd know that if you didn't suck
18:35.15Fisker-OMG
18:35.17Fisker-OOOOOOOOMG
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18:35.24Fisker-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV1UL9lL0dA <-HAHAHHA
18:35.25Fisker-RETARD
18:35.44Fisker-he's trying to find specific audio that makes red block
18:35.50Fisker-play the same track again, it's random stupid
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18:43.34KirkburnDotted, yeah, that was fail
18:44.58KirkburnFisker-, um, isn't it all done in relation to the rest of the music?
18:45.39KirkburnAll you need is a song with very quiet and very loud parts and you're set
18:47.20Fisker-i don't know it exactly how it works but it definitely randomizes blocks to some extent
18:47.28Fisker-for example just before i had a 30 second valve song
18:47.39Fisker-where i had 3 white blocks in the beginning
18:47.42Fisker-which is an instant 6k score
18:50.17Fisker-anyways Dotted
18:50.21Fisker-keyboard = win
18:50.38Dottedno
18:50.46Fisker-yes
18:54.49Dottedwhen the fuck do they fix their fail server?
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18:57.26Fisker-but Dotted
18:57.30Fisker-you don't know teh tricks then
18:58.04Dotted?
18:58.50Fisker-you can use the keyboard and mouse to "teleport" the craft
18:59.07Dottedhow useful
19:01.47KasoKirkburn|afk, whats all this stuff about andy's daughter+bf on CP
19:02.22Fisker-of course Dotted
19:02.26Dottedno
19:07.01Fisker-yes
19:11.21Dottedno
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19:11.37Fisker-yes
19:12.08Gourrano
19:12.25Fisker-yes
19:12.28Gourrano
19:12.41Fisker-yes
19:12.44Fisker-also
19:12.45Fisker-good night
19:12.46Gourrano
19:12.47Fisker-yes
19:12.48Gourrabye
19:12.49Gourrano
19:12.55Fisker-bye
19:12.55Fisker-yes
19:12.56Gourrano
19:25.36Dotteddie
19:41.41equiraptorSheesh, the work connection is having issues.
19:42.04equiraptorSlow pings. High packet loss, but could be the pings timing out due to theslowness....
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20:08.00kd3gah. can't get my edit off in the VP
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21:39.42Sky2042_afkuh, pcj: poke
21:40.07pcjwhat
21:40.19Sky2042_afkhttp://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Ironstaff_of_Regeneration&diff=1225791&oldid=1225222 why?
21:40.39pcjchange of +healing gear
21:40.56Sky2042_afkso why a full replacement, rather than just tooltip?
21:41.32pcjBecause it's one click for full replacement than just tooltip, and there's no special extra content foxbot won't pick up on
21:41.54Sky2042_afkum, the Sethekk Halls items cat?
21:42.12Sky2042_afkand the new categories in general? or did foxlit (cough) edit the bot?
21:42.32pcjFoxbot usually picks up on the categories
21:42.53Sky2042_afkfoxlit: do you have it set to ignore cats?
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21:53.02Sandwichman2448Am I vain or annoying?
21:53.19KalrothSandwichman2448: If you have to ask, then you probably are!
21:53.40foxlitpingfest
21:53.44Sandwichman2448ood point.
21:53.52Sky2042_afkfoxlit: you know you love it.
21:53.52Sandwichman2448With a G in there.
21:54.05sacarasc<PROTECTED>
21:54.15foxlitI systematically ignore category changes
21:54.32Sky2042_afksystematically?
21:56.09pcjAs opposed to...categorically?
21:56.50Sky2042_afkor randomly?
21:57.08pcjNo, foxlit would never do anything randomly
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21:59.07Sky2042_afkduh!
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22:06.25foxlitThere's a hardcoded list of tooltip parameters translating into categories
22:06.37foxlitI haven't been trying to update that very hard
22:12.00Fisker-ya hear me Bibi ?
22:12.06Bibifu
22:12.09BibiI mean, yes sweetheart ?
22:12.56Fisker-did you see that link earlier?
22:13.01Fisker-for the keylogger
22:14.54Bibiyeah nice hentai game
22:14.58Bibikept me busy for 4 minutes
22:15.53Fisker-:o
22:16.31Sandwichman2448OMG?
22:16.40Sandwichman2448...I dunno.
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22:34.20Sandwichman2448I caught a fanficer. It was in the mainspace, and people were like 'Omg new page, let's link it everywhere', which is what you do to new pages, but it was fake. No harm was ment though.
22:35.56Kirkburn|afkI forgot to mention a cool new change to the wiki
22:36.03Kirkburnhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Silvermoon_City?useskin=wowwiki
22:36.08Kirkburnhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Silvermoon_City?useskin=monobook
22:36.50Sandwichman2448Skins work? Nice!
22:36.53KirkburnKaso, Andy's daughter's bf is a librul who vandalizes the wiki (but doesn't get banned, naturally)
22:37.07KirkburnSandwichman2448, no, look at the links :P
22:37.10Sky2042_afkno can has must use http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Silvermoon_City?useskin=monobook
22:37.27Sandwichman2448Monobook blinded me, I can not read.
22:37.29KirkburnSky2042_afk, no can must use indeed
22:37.38NapsterbaterAnyone know why after 5 days searching for "Defenders of Infinity" still wont show a result for "http://www.wowwiki.com/Guild:Defenders_of_Infinity_%28Shattered_Hand_US%29"?
22:37.40Sky2042_afkyay, sky2042 is have happy
22:37.41Kasohow old is she/he? we talking teenagers or grown ups?
22:38.02Sky2042_afkNapsterbater: are you searching with MW search or google>
22:38.05KirkburnKaso, young, I'm thinking mid to late teens
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22:38.23NapsterbaterWW search
22:38.28KasoWhy does he allow his daughter to date a dirty liberal then?!
22:38.35Sky2042_afkare you searching in the guild namespace Napsterbater?
22:38.41KirkburnKaso, cause he ain't got as much control as he wants >_<
22:39.02KasoI find that really amusing
22:39.17KasoHe's a totaliarian dictator online, but powerless in real life
22:39.30KirkburnYet the dirty librul appears to be homeskooled by him too
22:39.35Sky2042_afkNapsterbater: yeah, I see the issue.
22:39.47Sky2042_afkNapsterbater: leave a note on [[WW:SR]] under bugs.
22:40.04NapsterbaterI mean the google/wowwiki search on the left.... kk
22:40.24Sky2042_afkwell, if it's google, than we have no control over that
22:40.36Sky2042_afkhey Kirkburn: are they removing the google search on merge?
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22:41.11KirkburnOnce we move to Monaco, yes
22:41.18pcjthat's not a new feature kirkburn
22:41.28Sandwichman2448http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Penguin_King&diff=1224844&oldid=1220696| That would be great if it was not vandalism.
22:41.40Kirkburnpcj, it is
22:41.48pcj...no, it's not
22:41.57KirkburnWell, how are you defining new?
22:42.55pcjFinding out, one sec
22:43.54pcjAt least since the middle of January http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=User:Pcj/wowwiki.js&diff=prev&oldid=1129260
22:44.32Sky2042_afkpcj: lol
22:44.39winkillerGourra: *poke*
22:44.40KirkburnSounds like about the time of the server change
22:44.42pcj(It's the link the Preferences page uses to preview skins)
22:44.50Gourrawinkiller: /poke
22:44.55Sky2042_afkpcj: Kirkburn is saying we can get rid of the "index.php?title=" part
22:44.59Kirkburner, yeah
22:45.05winkillerread it? :P need healer heroic SL daily - up for it?
22:45.10KirkburnLol, we've always been able to preiew skins
22:45.17Sky2042_afkfo eva!
22:45.22KirkburnI meant what Sky2042_afk said :P
22:45.48pcjWow, that was an important feature
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22:46.10Sky2042_afkhttp://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Silvermoon_City&useskin=monobook vs http://www.wowwiki.com/Silvermoon_City&useskin=monobook
22:46.11pcjHmm
22:46.17pcjYes, I get it now Sky
22:46.32KirkburnAnyhoo, on other topics
22:47.27KirkburnI'm not sure how soon the upgrade will be possible - if it's not this week, it may have to be delayed a bit due tot he upcoming Wikia get together
22:47.43KirkburnHowever, the monaco skin is getting great reception
22:47.54Sky2042_afkof course it is.
22:47.56Sky2042_afk:P
22:48.32KirkburnThe menu thing is what I'm most looking forward to, so we can have nav like most of the database sites
22:48.51pcjThrough excessive use of JS?
22:48.57KirkburnAlso, social tools, we're on the list to receive them as soon as we're upgraded
22:49.12Kirkburnpcj, it's fairly minimal
22:49.28pcjSure
22:50.13Sky2042_afkKirkburn: oh god, please, oh no.
22:50.23KirkburnSky2042_afk, no, we don't have to have all of it
22:50.48KirkburnYou'd be amazed at the response to the Halopedia relaunch though
22:51.00pcjJust as long as you don't force them on the poor WoWWiki skin users
22:51.14Sky2042_afkKirkburn: relaunch?...
22:51.15KirkburnA maaaassive boom in users and viewership
22:51.25Sky2042_afkHalo's turned into freaking myspace >_<
22:51.42KirkburnWell, as I said we don't have to taek everything
22:52.04KirkburnThe next few wikis we're doing are going to have less, so we can see how they react
22:52.16pcjHah, Kirkburn, I found a bug
22:52.16pcjhttp://www.wowwiki.com/User:Pcj/tooltip.js&action=raw
22:52.21pcjFAIL
22:52.38Fisker-because of you pcj i'm no longer an agent of this system
22:52.39pcjoh wait
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22:52.40pcjlol
22:52.41KirkburnThat's cause Sky2042_afk wrote it wrong
22:52.43pcj<--sucks
22:52.46KirkburnIt's a ? not a &
22:52.58pcjyes
22:52.59pcj:P
22:53.06Sky2042_afkuh, no?
22:53.21pcjit was me lol
22:53.23KirkburnCheck your Silvermoon links above :)
22:53.53pcjYeah, he failed too
22:53.59Sky2042_afkuh...
22:54.13Sky2042_afkmy first one is correct.
22:54.18Sky2042_afkKirkburn: blame wikia.
22:54.22KirkburnWhateva
22:54.32pcjhehe
22:54.39KirkburnThe FFXIcyclopedia has a fairly good implementation of the new skin http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Main_Page?useskin=monaco
22:55.00KirkburnHowever, in implementing their menu they literally threw EVERYTHING in it, causing 5 second page load delay
22:55.07Kirkburn18k of menu ... not a good idea
22:55.18KirkburnSo, that's been reverted for now >_<
22:56.43pcjSeparate data from the formatting?
22:56.57Sky2042_afkand I don't see the js :[
22:57.11KirkburnThe menu js? Yeah, deleted :/
22:57.17KirkburnBit of a baby and bathwater situation
22:57.19Sky2042_afkcompletely?
22:57.28Sky2042_afkor just from their version?
22:57.39Kirkburnhttp://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Monaco-sidebar&redirect=no
22:57.50Sky2042_afkah
22:58.00KirkburnAnd this is what it was: http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Monaco-sidebar&oldid=455815
22:58.25Sky2042_afkoh...
22:58.32Sky2042_afktell them to use categories next time -_-
22:58.36KirkburnFor ours, methinks start small, then add more over time ... classes, races, factions, item categories
22:58.57KirkburnTbh, just looking at the database sites should give a fairly good plan
23:00.30Sky2042_afkuh oh
23:00.43Sky2042_afklol, oops
23:00.57Sandwichman2448The main page?
23:01.13KirkburnSandwichman2448, ?
23:02.59Sandwichman2448I misunderstood the topic, it was about skins and server size?
23:03.02Sky2042_afkKirkburn: why did wikia put the top banner on top in monaco?
23:03.06Sky2042_afkinstead of the bottom?
23:03.16Sky2042_afks/top banner/horizontal banner/
23:03.27KirkburnGotta have clicks somehow
23:03.40Adyshttp://www.techspot.com/news/29194-Activision-sued-over-Vivendi-merger.html
23:04.00Sky2042_afkby /who/ ?
23:04.09Adysactivision investors
23:04.21Sky2042_afklol
23:04.27Adys"In fact, some investors in Activision are quite upset over the deal, so upset that they have done what angry people do: They are suing Activision. "
23:04.47Sandwichman2448<PROTECTED>
23:05.36Sky2042_afkKirkburn: oh wait, nvm. as long as the logo still goes next to it, looks great. =] looks like wowhead now...
23:05.38Sky2042_afk>.>
23:06.26AdysTaranaki Daily News | Saturday, 23 February 2008
23:06.30Adys"Mr Segedin died in a crash on July 22 last year near Okato"
23:06.46Adyshow much trouble do some people have to go through to find news daily
23:06.49Sky2042_afkdaily news?...
23:07.01AdysMr Segedin died in a crash on July 22 last year near Okato
23:07.03Adyserrr
23:07.05Sandwichman2448http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Contributions/JarHed = Not very useful edits, only analysisish discussions.
23:07.09Adyshttp://www.stuff.co.nz/4411639a6479.html Sky2042_afk
23:08.45Kasobreaking 90/10 rule! omg
23:09.38Sky2042_afkKaso: eh?
23:10.05afkJaciiWat
23:10.06Kasoa lighthearted joke at Sandwichman's comment
23:10.18KasoKirkburn will get it
23:10.21Sandwichman2448What comment, kaso?
23:10.39Kasoabout the no useful edits
23:10.46afkJaciiTHATS ME!
23:10.55afkJaciiI only made one page, the four wheels of fury one
23:11.19Sandwichman2448That is not you.
23:11.22Kasoon Conversapedia they have this rule where you get banned for making too much talk and not enough effort
23:11.32Sky2042_afklol
23:11.39afkJaciioh lol
23:11.39Sky2042_afkinfamous conservapedia
23:11.41Sky2042_afk;P
23:11.50Kasothough mainly its just used as an excuse to ban people they dont like
23:11.57Sandwichman2448Hmm...
23:12.03Kaso(no that they really need excuses, they juts ban people anyway)
23:12.18Sandwichman2448:O
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23:13.50Sandwichman2448afkJacii, why did you think that was you?
23:14.37Sandwichman2448you are Jachel292, not jarhead
23:14.47Sandwichman2448JarHed
23:14.50Sandwichman2448eh
23:15.36Sandwichman2448I think...
23:16.17Kasoi assumed he mean that was him generally, as in makes alot of talk and not much edits
23:16.23Kasobut thats ok on wowwiki
23:17.51Sandwichman2448Who screams this is not a forum all the time?
23:18.16Sky2042<PROTECTED>
23:18.39Sky2042and laurly's neck, but that's a whole different issue.
23:21.46pcjbrb
23:22.46Sky2042well, that didn't answer the question... -_-
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23:42.23Red_WullfHowdy.
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23:44.12SandwichmanAFKHowdy.
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23:57.13foxlithttp://www.wowwiki.com/Spell:33490
23:57.35foxlitHow odd is that?
23:59.18Adys|--------| that much?

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