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| 00:27.17 | [NewsBot] | World of Raids: WoWDB launch, 2.4 Combat Log, Lunar festival - http://boards.worldofraids.com/topic-10646-1.html |
| 00:31.19 | Lukian | wsweet! Live maint tonight :D |
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| 00:39.07 | pcj | should WoWDB be added to the item external links |
| 00:39.20 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Curse launches oddly familiar WoW database - http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/02/04/curse-launches-oddly-familiar-wow-database/ |
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| 01:03.17 | kd3 | huh. wowdb's cloned wowwiki articles too. |
| 01:03.24 | kd3 | what a direct copypasta of wowhead |
| 01:04.19 | Kirkburn | Are we cited? |
| 01:04.30 | Kirkburn | If we're not, I think we can ask for takedowns |
| 01:04.37 | kd3 | we're cited |
| 01:04.42 | Kirkburn | Linked? |
| 01:04.48 | kd3 | ya. just like wowhead does |
| 01:04.59 | Kirkburn | k, I'm happy then :) |
| 01:05.13 | kd3 | http://www.wowdb.com/faction.aspx?id=69 |
| 01:05.16 | foxlit | _Can_ you ask for takedowns? |
| 01:05.49 | Kirkburn | I think that's what the license says, I think |
| 01:06.13 | Kirkburn | In any case, not going to get involved, too much stress, happy we're cited :) |
| 01:06.59 | foxlit | FDL? I doubt it, really |
| 01:08.15 | Kirkburn | Meh, Curse uses Wikia wikis anyway, so it's not going to be a problem |
| 01:08.37 | Kirkburn | I should've thought before I wrote about takedowns, since I knew about it, and knew it's not an issue :P |
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| 01:10.50 | Kirkburn | Sky2042_, if you're interested, feel like doing the in-game book css? |
| 01:11.33 | Kirkburn | Fandy's too hands off these days :P |
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| 01:12.45 | foxlit | Is there a settled color scheme that people agreed on? |
| 01:12.59 | foxlit | It's relatively simple to add the relevant classes if we know what's being added |
| 01:13.11 | Kirkburn | or you can, just want someone to do it :P |
| 01:13.34 | Kirkburn | checking... |
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| 01:14.35 | Kirkburn | No real consensus |
| 01:15.08 | pcj | Yeah, there's consensus |
| 01:15.17 | pcj | That bgcolor="black" is a bad idea |
| 01:15.17 | Kirkburn | There was? |
| 01:15.44 | pcj | anyway, zeal's was probably the best |
| 01:15.57 | Kirkburn | Ah, I was staring at DuTempete at that time |
| 01:16.01 | Kirkburn | Yeah, go with that : |
| 01:16.03 | Kirkburn | :) |
| 01:16.13 | pcj | Who're you talking to |
| 01:16.23 | Kirkburn | Um, foxlit :P |
| 01:17.05 | foxlit | [[Conjured item]] title case? |
| 01:17.06 | [NewsBot] | foxlit meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Conjured_item |
| 01:17.35 | Kirkburn | Sentence I'd say |
| 01:18.03 | Kirkburn | Well, actually |
| 01:18.05 | pcj | camel case! |
| 01:18.12 | Kirkburn | It's a direct concept in-game, isn't it? |
| 01:18.41 | pcj | Yes |
| 01:18.42 | Kirkburn | Rather than a general concept, an item is a "Conjured Item" according to the game? |
| 01:18.47 | pcj | Yep |
| 01:18.54 | Kirkburn | Then I guess title case it is |
| 01:19.17 | Kirkburn | foxlit, you're nominated to do the CSS btw ;) |
| 01:19.58 | foxlit | http://www.wowwiki.com/Soulstone tada |
| 01:20.33 | foxlit | mm, okay |
| 01:20.37 | foxlit | Tomorrow, though |
| 01:21.11 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 01:21.36 | Kirkburn | I'm wiki and internet-tired, so off to my bed. 3 foot away. |
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| 01:22.13 | Kirkburn|sleep | Actually 2 foot might be more accurate |
| 01:25.13 | pcj | Did you over-shoot? |
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| 01:30.51 | Kirkburn|sleep | pcj, fortunately my bed is more than 1 foot wide |
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| 01:35.01 | foxlit | oh wow |
| 01:35.06 | foxlit | someone has been wowinsidered |
| 01:35.21 | foxlit | (http://www.feystruck.ca/wow/Staghelm/ -- the Fadral Staghelm Murder Simulator) |
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| 04:11.06 | Sky2042 | Tekkub: just be aware "Guillotine" is a Curse member. |
| 04:11.36 | Tekkub | SKy, they wanted me to write code for their WDB miner, I'm not worried |
| 04:12.13 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 04:21.01 | Sky2042 | pcj: "should WoWDB be added to the item external links" you mean, the Wowhead copycat? |
| 04:21.23 | pcj | i asked before i really looked at it |
| 04:21.29 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 04:22.00 | pcj | that's so blatant it's almost funny |
| 04:22.17 | pcj | i had a hard time finding the "powered by wdb" js tho |
| 04:23.14 | Cairenn | why do I feel like I'm missing 1/2 the conversation in here? |
| 04:23.15 | Sky2042 | is there even one? |
| 04:23.23 | Sky2042 | Cairenn: you usually are? |
| 04:23.35 | Sky2042 | it's a comment he made hours ago. |
| 04:23.46 | kd3 | whee. more details |
| 04:23.55 | kd3 | now all we need is permission to poke the freaking patch notes in full |
| 04:24.03 | Cairenn | nope, too late |
| 04:24.21 | Sky2042 | =[ I is sowwy! |
| 04:24.34 | Cairenn | okay, I forgives you |
| 04:25.15 | pcj | ~massage Cairenn |
| 04:25.16 | infobot | ACTION gives Cairenn a terribly relaxing full-body massage that puts Cairenn to sleep |
| 04:32.35 | Fisker- | Cairenn only gets ops because she's a chick |
| 04:32.36 | Fisker- | .( |
| 04:32.55 | Sky2042 | Fisker-: I don't quite think that's it.... |
| 04:34.11 | Fisker- | lies |
| 04:34.16 | Fisker- | the women are trying to take over the world |
| 04:34.20 | Sky2042 | How is it that Fandyllic always manages to add things to my watchlist, rather than getting rid of things? :( |
| 04:34.26 | Fisker- | But Captain Oblivious here is going to save the day |
| 04:34.41 | kd3 | sky? |
| 04:35.12 | Sky2042 | kd3: nothin. just more to deal with than i particularly want to deal with >.> |
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| 05:02.07 | pcj | nice |
| 05:02.16 | kd3 | freenode, I <3 you |
| 05:27.07 | Perseus | lol that was epic |
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| 05:52.27 | Cairenn | Adys, DuTempete, Hobinheim, kd3, Kirkburn|sleep, Sky2042, Tekkub: http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/02/04/curse-launches-oddly-familiar-wow-database/ |
| 05:52.37 | Cairenn | Update: Someone named Kody, who claims to be a representative of Curse, has appeared in our comments, and claims that Curse has obtained an "exclusive content contract" with WoWWiki for the use of their information. An interesting claim, especially since most of the content on WoWWiki (written by users) should be covered under Wikia's terms of use and the GNU Free Documentation License, and thus available for use to anyone who credits and so |
| 05:53.23 | Sky2042 | exclusive would be incorrect, but yes, they do have a contract with /wikia/, which runs the wowwiki servers (since mayish) |
| 05:53.25 | Fisker- | i don't know any kody from curse |
| 05:53.26 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:53.40 | Tekkub | so basically, it's Curse's turn to be the dicks? |
| 05:53.48 | Fisker- | i guess |
| 05:53.59 | Fisker- | i'd like to see that "exclusive content contract" though |
| 05:54.04 | kd3 | ya, me too |
| 05:54.44 | kd3 | gonna poke kirk's talk page since he's asleep so he sees this |
| 05:54.44 | Fisker- | good job on blatantly ripping off the design as usual though |
| 05:54.47 | Fisker- | just likew owdigger did |
| 05:56.24 | Cairenn | just wanted to make sure you guys were aware of it |
| 05:56.48 | kd3 | much appreciated |
| 05:57.19 | Tekkub | no you didn't, you just wanted to stir up the drama |
| 05:57.23 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 05:57.24 | Sky2042 | Cairenn: i can pm you the post i was going to make that I pmed malgayne, if you want to post something to the effect of "saying 'exclusive' is misinforming" |
| 05:57.26 | Fisker- | dramaqueens |
| 05:57.27 | Sky2042 | and lol, tekkub, no. |
| 05:57.39 | Tekkub | I know Cair all too well |
| 05:57.57 | Cairenn | Tekkub: f u 2 ! |
| 05:57.57 | Fisker- | wowhead has nothing to worry about |
| 05:57.59 | Cairenn | <3 |
| 05:58.01 | Tekkub | remember all that rumourmongering she did with the UICentral viruses? |
| 05:58.14 | Fisker- | however |
| 05:58.36 | Tekkub | it's all quite clear, WoWI is making their own Wowhead killer and they don't want tho competition from Cursed |
| 05:58.47 | kd3 | NOWAI! |
| 05:58.52 | Tekkub | http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/02/04/curse-launches-oddly-familiar-wow-database/2#c10248613 |
| 05:58.55 | Tekkub | ^^ |
| 05:59.00 | DuTempete | oh geez... this wowdb I hadn't heard of until Kirk mentioned it today. |
| 05:59.05 | Fisker- | http://wow.curse.com/wikia/Main_Page <-WTF |
| 05:59.11 | DuTempete | I didn't even know what he was talking about |
| 05:59.17 | Tekkub | I think they just made it public today |
| 05:59.20 | DuTempete | ^^ That I knew about |
| 05:59.23 | Sky2042 | DuTempete: it just came out of beta today. |
| 05:59.28 | Arrowmaster | theres been a link on curse to a copy of wowwiki for a long time |
| 05:59.32 | Tekkub | I'd known about it for a while, but that was when it were secret :) |
| 05:59.48 | TecnoBrat | Tekkub, thats totally clear :P "it's all quite clear, WoWI is making their own Wowhead killer and they don't want tho competition from Cursed" |
| 05:59.51 | Sky2042 | and yes, WoWWiki's mirrored on Curse. |
| 06:00.00 | Sky2042 | been that way for several months. |
| 06:00.04 | Fisker- | Copyright © 2007 Curse, Inc. |
| 06:00.06 | Fisker- | hoho |
| 06:00.13 | DuTempete | I never heard anything about "exclusive" content, however... |
| 06:00.13 | Fisker- | i'm gonna wait for some obvious trolling |
| 06:00.21 | Fisker- | That's is definately not gonna ring with the GPL |
| 06:00.48 | Sky2042 | Fisker-: you have fun. |
| 06:00.59 | Tekkub | it's most likely a bad choice of words by someone only partially involved with the project who doesn't want his true identity known |
| 06:01.35 | Fisker- | lets all hate on curse |
| 06:01.50 | TecnoBrat | Tekkub, he posted on his normal nick |
| 06:02.01 | Tekkub | oh, then who the hell is he? :) |
| 06:02.07 | Fisker- | Put wagers on when they'll go WoWDB v1 billion on our asses and it'll look uglier than stuff made in the 1990's |
| 06:02.14 | DuTempete | I dunno what content they could even get from Wikia that would be exclusive |
| 06:02.35 | Fisker- | none i guess |
| 06:02.38 | Tekkub | insider trading tips? |
| 06:02.43 | TecnoBrat | Tekkub, the same guy who posted the original annoucement on their site. |
| 06:03.38 | Tekkub | so again, who? |
| 06:03.38 | Tekkub | :) |
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| 06:04.59 | Sky2042 | Fisker-: you dork. the GNU covers for that. |
| 06:05.59 | Fisker- | duh? |
| 06:07.16 | Fisker- | Elaborate yourself then |
| 06:13.27 | [NewsBot] | BlizzPlanet: World of Warcraft TCG: Spectral Safari Announced - http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=2068 |
| 06:14.36 | Fisker- | technically though WoWHead(As well as WoWDB) are missing copyright tags and licensing |
| 06:14.46 | Fisker- | time to hate on both then |
| 06:15.44 | Sky2042 | Fisker-: yeah. Whstaff is tossing around (actually, just tecnobrat) about adding copyright disclaimer to the general disclaimers. |
| 06:16.33 | TecnoBrat | its already clearly sourced, but it should technically have the disclaimer |
| 06:17.05 | Sky2042 | aye |
| 06:17.05 | TecnoBrat | and notice about GPL |
| 06:18.32 | DuTempete | So who did wowinsider contact from the wiki? |
| 06:19.02 | Fisker- | i don't like the "Copyright Curse 2007" under the wiki either |
| 06:19.22 | Fisker- | i don't know if that would be considered inappropiate in context of the GNU FDL though |
| 06:19.24 | Cairenn | DuTempete: that's a good question, which is why I poked you guys, so you could look into it |
| 06:20.01 | DuTempete | have you checked on #wikia, yet? |
| 06:20.32 | Fisker- | And btw |
| 06:20.58 | Fisker- | If they are to have any "contract" about exclusive content, thus changing the license i believe they have to get permission from any and all authors |
| 06:21.03 | Fisker- | Boy that is going to be fun :) |
| 06:21.29 | Sky2042 | i think he's misinformed; if he isn't, than curse has big issues in that direction. |
| 06:21.33 | DuTempete | well, I'm not so sure it's about exclusive content, so much as an exclusive contract |
| 06:21.34 | Sky2042 | and wikia, for that matter. |
| 06:21.52 | Fisker- | DuTempete he says "exclusive content contract" |
| 06:21.54 | Cairenn | how can you have an exclusive contract though? |
| 06:21.58 | Fisker- | that's his exact words |
| 06:22.19 | DuTempete | yes, Fisker- however, when you learn how to use English properly, you will figure out that that phrase can be interpreted in two ways. |
| 06:22.44 | Fisker- | it's still wrong in both ways |
| 06:22.44 | DuTempete | Cairenn, how can you have an exclusive contract? You would be the only one with the contract... |
| 06:22.50 | DuTempete | That's what exclusive means :P |
| 06:23.03 | Cairenn | I know that, but what is the contract *for*? |
| 06:23.26 | DuTempete | License to portal to wowwiki w/o actually making the user go there. |
| 06:23.40 | Cairenn | ah |
| 06:24.35 | Sky2042 | DuTempete: i note the existence of encyclopedia.com , which mirrors wikipedia... |
| 06:24.43 | Sky2042 | i'm not sure how that all works though. |
| 06:24.56 | DuTempete | lol neither do I :P |
| 06:25.24 | Fisker- | In any case the word exclusive or content doesn't fit |
| 06:25.48 | DuTempete | it does it just sounds inappropriate |
| 06:25.56 | Fisker- | perhaps a "Contract mirroring their services for free without realizing the copyright, and considering it's own work"-contract |
| 06:26.33 | Fisker- | A license is just as much a contract as anything else |
| 06:26.49 | DuTempete | hehe sounds somewhat like that to me |
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| 06:29.20 | Fisker- | But either Curse misunderstood it and has to make some corrections in that regard, or wikia has a serious legal problem :P |
| 06:30.14 | Sky2042 | well, wikia has a serious legal problem regarding all its gaming wiki's image policies, but that's a nonissue, right? |
| 06:30.43 | Fisker- | fair use motherfucker |
| 06:30.44 | Fisker- | :P |
| 06:30.54 | Fisker- | but yeah you're right |
| 06:30.57 | Sky2042 | yes. if you claim fair use though, you only get one image. |
| 06:30.59 | Fisker- | it's a bit retarded though |
| 06:31.05 | Sky2042 | we have... how many of arthas? |
| 06:31.24 | Fisker- | Companies really should be more aware of their copyrights and copylefts |
| 06:31.52 | Fisker- | They want their screenshots to be distributed, why don't just license it appropiately to begin with? |
| 06:33.15 | Fisker- | unfortunately they probably also earn money on exclusive screenshots and the like |
| 06:33.17 | Sky2042 | Fisker-: because, SSs are derivatives of the games, and not separate content for such things, I suspect. |
| 06:33.28 | Sky2042 | and thus, as the game's CRd... |
| 06:34.35 | Cairenn | wowinsider updated again |
| 06:35.20 | Sky2042 | Cairenn: I don't recall Curse ever contacting anyone at WoWWiki about hosting it, only talked with it to Wikia. That should probably be confirmed with Kirkburn / Wikia staff (sannse, maybe) |
| 06:35.48 | TecnoBrat | technically they dont have to talk to wowwiki :P |
| 06:35.48 | Sky2042 | (Update 2) |
| 06:35.57 | Sky2042 | TecnoBrat: Oh, I know. |
| 06:36.13 | Sky2042 | TecnoBrat: it's worded as though Curse did, however, when I don't remember them doing so. |
| 06:36.25 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 06:36.31 | Fisker- | something is fishy in the state of drama |
| 06:36.47 | Sky2042 | yay hamlet. |
| 06:36.58 | TecnoBrat | regardless the removal of the GPL stuff on that portal is .. uhhh wrong |
| 06:37.03 | Fisker- | So basically they have an "exclusive content contract" that anyone can get without having to contact anyone |
| 06:37.06 | Fisker- | impressive |
| 06:37.06 | Fisker- | :P |
| 06:37.12 | Fisker- | well it's not removed TecnoBrat |
| 06:37.23 | Fisker- | but there's also copyrights to curse in the bottom of the page |
| 06:37.29 | Fisker- | which is sending mixed signals in my opinion |
| 06:37.34 | TecnoBrat | hmmm was I blind? |
| 06:37.34 | TecnoBrat | sec |
| 06:37.45 | TecnoBrat | oh i was blind |
| 06:37.55 | TecnoBrat | well, the logo, etc is copyright curse |
| 06:38.27 | Sky2042 | Fisker-: they're allowed to copyright their own stuff, so long as it's open to the terms of the license. |
| 06:38.35 | Sky2042 | that's why it's "Copyleft" |
| 06:38.48 | Fisker- | OMG DATS NEWS TO ME |
| 06:39.09 | Fisker- | What i'm saying is that it's like it's copyrighting stuff it's doesn't have the right to copyright |
| 06:39.22 | Sky2042 | Fisker-: yes. |
| 06:39.31 | Sky2042 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:39.33 | Fisker- | If i recally correctly, if there's any doubt to be had isn't it a requirement that the copyright states what is copyrighted |
| 06:39.50 | Fisker- | like "The curse design, curse logo and what not is copyright curse" |
| 06:39.55 | Fisker- | instead of "Copyright curse" |
| 06:45.40 | Fisker- | is drama ongoing anywhere else? :( |
| 06:45.45 | Fisker- | or are we all drama'd out? |
| 06:49.17 | Cairenn | think we're all drama'd out, at least for now |
| 06:49.34 | Fisker- | ooh |
| 06:49.36 | Fisker- | kody responded |
| 06:49.41 | Fisker- | Yeah sorry, I should have gone into greater detail but I've had to be brief today because of how busy I've been. The agreement with Wikia made porting WoWWiki's content over much easier, as we have access to Wikia's suite of gaming wikis for all of our major game portals on Curse. |
| 06:49.43 | Cairenn | or not |
| 06:49.53 | Fisker- | But that still doesn't make sense |
| 06:50.09 | Fisker- | unless we're talking like database access or something like that |
| 06:52.21 | TecnoBrat | We are. |
| 06:52.34 | TecnoBrat | login over there |
| 06:52.39 | TecnoBrat | or change a page here |
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| 07:01.50 | Bagginsww | fandy strikes again, slapping on RPG template onto articles that very little to do with RPG, and probably have more material in other sources, :p |
| 07:02.07 | Sky2042 | Bagginsww: oh, we know. we know. |
| 07:02.13 | Bagginsww | lol |
| 07:02.48 | Bagginsww | anything interesting this week or last? |
| 07:02.49 | Fisker- | OMG |
| 07:03.12 | Bagginsww | school was cancelled on account of flash flood today, LOL |
| 07:03.18 | Fisker- | On the chinese WoW site they've said that the legendary bow they're planning will be a drop |
| 07:03.19 | Bagginsww | *flash flood warnings |
| 07:03.37 | Sky2042 | There's a new Wowhead impostor. |
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| 07:04.41 | Bagginsww | hmm |
| 07:06.05 | Bagginsww | ahh I see we are finally getting around to elimating all the uppercase category names |
| 07:06.33 | Sky2042 | http://digg.com/tech_news/Overhaul_of_net_addresses_begins huh |
| 07:06.34 | Bagginsww | I mean for something like, "Category:Wildhammer dwarves" |
| 07:06.58 | Bagginsww | where as it used to be "Category:Wildhammer Dwarves" |
| 07:07.28 | Fisker- | btw kd3 |
| 07:07.32 | Fisker- | get your chinese friends up |
| 07:07.37 | Fisker- | http://bbs.wowchina.com/wow/viewthread.aspx?forum_id=9&pageno=1&post_id=67444 |
| 07:07.48 | Fisker- | It talks about the legendary bow for hunters |
| 07:08.11 | Fisker- | information posted earlier today |
| 07:08.24 | Sky2042 | nite |
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| 07:13.05 | kd3 | Fisker-, all that post says is that it's a drop. and not a long series of quests |
| 07:13.10 | kd3 | more info on the new cooking recipes, though |
| 07:13.34 | Fisker- | i know that |
| 07:13.38 | Fisker- | but it might be 2.4 related |
| 07:13.47 | Fisker- | and not a general Q&A |
| 07:15.56 | Bagginsww | thinks I should design a "multi-lore" template |
| 07:16.24 | Bagginsww | whenever a topic has references accross multiple types of media |
| 07:17.55 | Bagginsww | to avoid fugly stacked lore templates, or arbritrary usage of templates on articles that go beyond a single source |
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| 07:18.55 | Bagginsww | although perhaps a change to the current lore templates, to state; |
| 07:19.12 | Bagginsww | "This topic first appeared in "blank" media |
| 07:19.46 | Bagginsww | for example of a certain topic first appeared in the RPG, then that would likely be the best place to use rpg template |
| 07:21.53 | kd3 | whee! http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Patch_2.4.0&diff=next&oldid=1187860 |
| 07:22.13 | Bagginsww | well no one is on, that would care about that, I'll discuss it later if I remember |
| 07:22.14 | Bagginsww | gnight all |
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| 08:07.35 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Rolling restarts for most US realms this morning - http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/02/05/rolling-restarts-for-most-us-realms-this-morning/ |
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| 08:23.50 | Fisker- | btw kd3 |
| 08:23.55 | kd3 | hm? |
| 08:24.00 | Fisker- | haven't Blizzard actually promised the bow before WotLK? |
| 08:24.06 | kd3 | ya |
| 08:24.11 | Fisker- | Well that settles it then |
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| 08:24.20 | Fisker- | It's technically impossible for the bow not to be in 2.4 |
| 08:24.37 | kd3 | I never said it wouldn't be, I don't think |
| 08:24.46 | Fisker- | Of course not |
| 08:25.22 | Fisker- | it's a bit fishy to add as information though |
| 08:25.25 | Fisker- | but still |
| 08:26.07 | kd3 | heh. random forum insanity for the night... http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4311208526&sid=1 |
| 08:26.10 | kd3 | real fun starts on page 3 |
| 08:26.17 | kd3 | anyway, caffeine's wearing off. zzz |
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| 10:58.39 | Adys | woah |
| 10:58.40 | Adys | http://metaatem.net/highlite/?text=4f4bd5e1753516180776f54545031d62&image=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Fintl%2Fen_com%2Fimages%2Flogo_plain.png&colors=256&width=220 |
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| 11:46.26 | Kalroth | Adys: http://metaatem.net/highlite/?text=Adys+is+a+&image=http%3A%2F%2Ftbn0.google.com%2Fimages%3Fq%3Dtbn%3AhO9o0y8sLNXuxM%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.accboards.com%2FUBB%2Ffrenchie2.gif&colors=256&width=80 |
| 11:46.39 | Adys | i smell a french joke |
| 11:46.43 | Kalroth | hahah |
| 11:46.45 | Adys | yep |
| 11:47.11 | Adys | Kalroth: need your advice! |
| 11:47.19 | Kalroth | Yessir? |
| 11:47.33 | Adys | For a server, 2x2ghz core or 1x3ghz ? |
| 11:47.44 | Kalroth | dual core for servers, always |
| 11:47.48 | Adys | okidoke |
| 11:48.01 | Kalroth | Well multiple cores anyways |
| 11:48.12 | Kalroth | It depends on how much load you plan on giving it though |
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| 12:29.02 | Wikian690 | hi |
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| 12:46.01 | Siletdark | oh piss off ns |
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| 13:29.17 | Kirkburn | Morning all |
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| 13:32.46 | Gourra | morning Kirkburn |
| 13:32.47 | Kirkburn | Regarding all the above ... Curse have a contract that lets them carry Wikia (and thus WoWWiki) content. I don't recall ever hearing that extend to the Wowdb, so them saying so seems to be bending the truth. We don't have to advertise them though. |
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| 13:35.50 | Kirkburn | Update 2 on the WoWInsider story appears to be correct :) |
| 13:38.28 | foxlit | "(WoW Insider notes that it is up to Wowhead, the originators of the design, to decide whether it is a result of inspiration or a blatant ripoff.)" WoW Insider should also be slapped in the face repeatedly. |
| 13:39.11 | Kalroth | That's pretty much a skinned version of wowhead |
| 13:39.17 | Kalroth | Sko isn't going to like it |
| 13:39.32 | Kirkburn | And I'm not liking the fact the wowwiki card was played |
| 13:40.16 | Kirkburn | As a site we are neutral, and I don't see that changing |
| 13:40.21 | Kalroth | compare http://www.wowdb.com/search.aspx?search_text=illidan#1:0:0 to http://www.wowhead.com/?search=illidan#npcs |
| 13:40.24 | Kalroth | what wowwiki card? |
| 13:40.39 | Kirkburn | "Someone named Kody, who claims to be a representative of Curse, has appeared in our comments, and claims that Curse has obtained an "exclusive content contract" with WoWWiki for the use of their information" |
| 13:41.03 | Kirkburn | It's bending the truth a lot, since that has nothing to do with the database |
| 13:41.05 | Kalroth | .. |
| 13:41.31 | Kirkburn | It's for Curse to have a wowwiki portal onsite |
| 13:42.00 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/02/04/curse-launches-oddly-familiar-wow-database/ ... updates one and two are pretty accurate |
| 13:42.00 | Kalroth | Doesn't sound that exclusive. |
| 13:42.22 | Kirkburn | The portal thing might be, I don't know |
| 13:43.21 | Kalroth | ahh |
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| 13:45.17 | Kalroth | I still don't like it, there's too much copying from wowhead. |
| 13:45.32 | Kirkburn | I'm in agreement there |
| 13:46.43 | foxlit | Anything in particular? |
| 13:47.09 | Kalroth | What do you mean? |
| 13:47.26 | foxlit | There's no copying, code-wise, that's actually apparent |
| 13:47.54 | Kalroth | Sure, wowhead is php, wowdb is aspsux |
| 13:48.04 | foxlit | HTML output is different |
| 13:48.12 | foxlit | JS data structures are different |
| 13:48.31 | Kalroth | Yet the sites are almost identical, except for a skin. |
| 13:48.34 | foxlit | The only thing that's remotely similar is the information layout (and not even the design) |
| 13:49.00 | Kirkburn | And designs are still copyrightable |
| 13:49.06 | foxlit | Yes |
| 13:49.08 | foxlit | And? |
| 13:49.09 | Kalroth | http://www.wowinsider.com/media/2008/02/wowhead_vs_wowdb_big_2.jpg - the layout is VERY similar, you can't argue that. |
| 13:49.12 | Kirkburn | Wait, you're saying it's not similar? |
| 13:49.20 | foxlit | The design is clearly different |
| 13:49.23 | Kalroth | .. |
| 13:49.24 | Kirkburn | Fancy graphics don't a different design make |
| 13:49.26 | foxlit | The layout isn't |
| 13:49.32 | Kalroth | You work for curse or something, foxlit? :) |
| 13:49.36 | foxlit | (fancy graphics is precisely what makes a different design) |
| 13:49.37 | foxlit | No |
| 13:49.45 | Kirkburn | Layout is still part of the design |
| 13:50.01 | Kirkburn | You can't take a model, repaint it, and call it your own |
| 13:50.03 | Kalroth | How on earth can you say that pages aren't identical, except for the skin |
| 13:50.32 | Kalroth | And look at the red dot infront of "Venture Co. Logger". Why is it the same dot as wowhead? |
| 13:50.59 | foxlit | (which red dot?) |
| 13:51.06 | Kalroth | the red box |
| 13:51.36 | Kalroth | wowdb got no red colors in their design, why use the same dots as wowhead? |
| 13:51.51 | foxlit | No, I'm merely suggesting that it's absurd to think that a tabular layout is in any way, shape, or form constitutes a unique invention. |
| 13:52.07 | foxlit | (link, or something) |
| 13:52.09 | Kalroth | Aha, they changed the dots :p |
| 13:52.15 | Kalroth | I did link it |
| 13:52.20 | Kalroth | http://www.wowinsider.com/media/2008/02/wowhead_vs_wowdb_big_2.jpg |
| 13:52.45 | foxlit | Ignored that link previously :) |
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| 13:59.05 | Kirkburn | Anyway, I'm going to try and stay out of all this, bit too close to home |
| 13:59.20 | Kirkburn | I just want people to know it doesn't affect wowwiki, or wowwiki's neutrality |
| 14:01.42 | Kalroth | You're the swiss of wow information |
| 14:01.51 | Kirkburn | :O |
| 14:02.07 | foxlit | Hrm |
| 14:02.13 | Kalroth | That's a good thing though, except for you having a lot of guns |
| 14:02.36 | foxlit | JPEG compression artifacts in that background image look odd |
| 14:03.20 | Kalroth | So you'd rather question wowinsiders image than wowdb? :) Are you sure Curse isn't paying you?! |
| 14:03.32 | foxlit | No, I wasn't being clear |
| 14:03.46 | foxlit | The JPEG compression artifacts in the background image of http://www.wowdb.com/ look odd |
| 14:03.52 | Kalroth | Oh, sorry |
| 14:03.54 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 14:04.15 | Kalroth | http://www.wowdb.com/images/bg_home.jpg this image? |
| 14:04.34 | foxlit | No |
| 14:04.37 | foxlit | the lich picture |
| 14:04.40 | Fisker- | the one with the lich king on it |
| 14:04.47 | Fisker- | n00b lich king not lich |
| 14:05.01 | Kalroth | ah http://www.wowdb.com/images/bg_home2.jpg |
| 14:05.23 | foxlit | Doesn't look very royal to me :P |
| 14:05.26 | Kirkburn | ooh, the corners of the box are a bit icky, yeah |
| 14:05.40 | Kirkburn | Then again, it is only 32kb |
| 14:08.08 | Fisker- | btw Kirkburn |
| 14:08.33 | foxlit | Just find the tone of that coverage rather nasty |
| 14:08.37 | foxlit | compare to say wowdigger |
| 14:09.11 | foxlit | (plus the comments of "zomg ripoff" are annoying) |
| 14:09.11 | Fisker- | it is zomg ripoff |
| 14:10.22 | foxlit | But that's you, Fisker-, so you've just made a double inversion of annoyance and came out okay :P |
| 14:14.11 | Kalroth | wowdigger doesn't look like wowhead though :) Some of the listings looks like the same, but they lack all the information that wowhead got |
| 14:14.51 | foxlit | When introduced, the major difference was more or less that they used a yellow colorscheme |
| 14:15.17 | foxlit | http://wowdigger.com/?keywords=illidan&c=search#s0 : Hi, wowhead with a styling problem |
| 14:15.33 | Kalroth | uhm, so you're saying that http://wowdigger.com/creature/view/22917/illidan-stormrage#c0 is equally identical to http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=22917 ? :) |
| 14:16.00 | Fisker- | haha |
| 14:16.10 | Fisker- | wowdigger almost looked better back when it was beige |
| 14:16.32 | foxlit | No |
| 14:16.52 | foxlit | http://www.wowhead.com/?search=illidan and http://wowdigger.com/?c=search&keywords=illidan ,on the other hand |
| 14:16.59 | Kalroth | wowdb didn't even bother to rename their titels |
| 14:17.35 | Kalroth | the tabs on the illidan page; Related: drops (count), objective of (count), comments (count), screenshots (count) |
| 14:17.36 | pcj | wowwiki needs a wowhead skin imo |
| 14:18.02 | foxlit | erm |
| 14:18.05 | foxlit | "rename"? |
| 14:18.18 | Kalroth | rename, reorder, resomething |
| 14:19.00 | foxlit | Are they not logically named and arranged? |
| 14:19.13 | Kalroth | Why is "object of" before "comments"? |
| 14:19.22 | Kirkburn | pcj, I thought we were already on one :P |
| 14:19.31 | foxlit | Because user-contributed content is usually last? |
| 14:19.35 | Kalroth | Why is the data "Related", that header isn't needed |
| 14:19.51 | Kalroth | Whatever, Curse is going to get burned on wowdb.com |
| 14:20.01 | Kalroth | No amount of fanboism is going to save the site :) |
| 14:20.02 | Kirkburn | Actually, it could be more accurate to say Wowhead is on a WoWWiki skin, we were first ;) |
| 14:20.26 | Kirkburn | *giggle* |
| 14:21.11 | foxlit | (it wouldn't be in trouble if not for fanboyism to begin with) |
| 14:21.27 | Kirkburn | hooah! |
| 14:22.05 | Fisker- | trying to claim you have exclusive rights on free content is pretty bad to begin with |
| 14:24.34 | Kalroth | haha |
| 14:24.42 | Kalroth | http://www.wowinsider.com/gallery/wowdb-vs-wowhead/622957/ yes, I see how they aren't similar in any way |
| 14:25.07 | Kalroth | http://www.wowinsider.com/gallery/wowdb-vs-wowhead/622955/ they just happen to make almost identical pages |
| 14:25.18 | Kalroth | http://www.wowinsider.com/gallery/wowdb-vs-wowhead/622954/ total accident, really |
| 14:28.02 | Fisker- | obviously you never heard of coincidence |
| 14:28.02 | Fisker- | :P |
| 14:31.42 | foxlit | So how unworkable does one's layout have to beto not be accused of copying a good model? |
| 14:32.08 | foxlit | Are wowdiggers filters http://www.wowdigger.com/item a copy of wowhead's? |
| 14:32.15 | foxlit | Did wowdb ripoff from wowdigger instead? |
| 14:32.41 | foxlit | And all table layouts are more or less identical to what thottbot displayed for ages (except colors, which, evidently, don't count) |
| 14:33.31 | Kalroth | uhm, so you think it's ok? |
| 14:33.43 | Kalroth | looking at the screenshots above, you think it's only fair? |
| 14:34.18 | foxlit | Looking at screenshots above, I fail to see cause for concern |
| 14:34.52 | Kalroth | .. |
| 14:35.00 | foxlit | And I also see that wowdb looks better |
| 14:35.15 | foxlit | So kudos to them for improving on what's already out there |
| 14:35.28 | Kalroth | Alright :) |
| 14:35.35 | foxlit | (Did thottbot copy wowhead's item preview, btw?) |
| 14:35.47 | Kalroth | I'm done discussing with you, you're being dumb. |
| 14:36.39 | foxlit | I'm sure that by "dumb" you mean "personally annoying" |
| 14:36.58 | Kalroth | No, by dumb I mean the least insulting word that came to my mind. |
| 14:38.01 | Dotted | guys |
| 14:38.17 | Dotted | just look at OS UI design |
| 14:38.31 | Kalroth | And trust me, I had a lot of other words running through my head. :) |
| 14:38.33 | Dotted | not counting OS X, almost all have the same besic design |
| 14:38.39 | Dotted | *basic |
| 14:38.47 | Dotted | KDE, Gnome, Windows |
| 14:39.15 | Dotted | looks roughly the same (just as wowdigger, wowhead, wowdb, etc. looks roughly the same) |
| 14:39.18 | Kalroth | Dotted: BeOS, OS/2, Windows, X, OS X - they're all window managers, but apart from that, they aren't identical in any way. |
| 14:39.56 | foxlit | Do they look similar? |
| 14:39.57 | Dotted | I did mention KDE, Gnome and Windows :p |
| 14:39.58 | Kalroth | wowdb doesn't look roughly the same, just look at the screenshots. Saying that they aren't exactly identical, except for the skinnage, is being ignorant. |
| 14:40.02 | foxlit | Meh, silly question |
| 14:40.02 | PhotoJim | AmigaDOS too. And distinct. |
| 14:40.15 | Kalroth | AmigaOS too, yes. |
| 14:40.25 | Dotted | although different graphics, they have a bottom bar and a "start" menu to the left |
| 14:41.04 | PhotoJim | There's more to an OS than appearance. There is feel. |
| 14:41.04 | Adys | wow |
| 14:41.05 | Adys | you guys |
| 14:41.07 | PhotoJim | Ditto websites. |
| 14:41.09 | Kalroth | Dotted: mmm, those you mentioned, sure. First of all, KDE and Gnome are both windows managers to X windows. That's like comparing Windows 95 with Windows 98. Of course they're going to look identical. |
| 14:41.11 | Adys | I go afk ten mins |
| 14:41.12 | PhotoJim | Not sure about these sites, just general comments. |
| 14:41.19 | Kirkburn | pcj, did you notice he said ICQ? |
| 14:41.26 | pcj | yeh |
| 14:41.34 | Fisker- | http://www.guidebookgallery.org/pics/gui/desktop/empty/macosx102.png |
| 14:41.35 | Fisker- | oh |
| 14:41.36 | Fisker- | http://www.guidebookgallery.org/pics/gui/desktop/empty/winxppro.png |
| 14:41.37 | Fisker- | i see |
| 14:41.37 | Dotted | Kalroth dont forget windows damnit |
| 14:41.39 | Fisker- | almost identical |
| 14:41.55 | Fisker- | for a minute there i thought the first desktop was windows |
| 14:42.00 | Kalroth | Fisker-: There's fonts on both screenshots though! |
| 14:42.01 | Fisker- | but then i saw the name had "macosx" in it |
| 14:42.15 | Dotted | hey Fisker- |
| 14:42.43 | Dotted | your IQ just dropped to half of the average americin you tard |
| 14:42.49 | Fisker- | americin? |
| 14:42.53 | Dotted | *american |
| 14:42.58 | Fisker- | never saw an american spell american wrong |
| 14:42.59 | Kalroth | http://www.wowinsider.com/gallery/wowdb-vs-wowhead/622957/ - You'd have to be pretty fucking ignorant to say that this isn't a straight rip-off. I can't believe people even try to defend it. |
| 14:43.04 | Fisker- | so that makes you half the IQ of mine? |
| 14:43.06 | Fisker- | gj |
| 14:43.30 | Dotted | atleast i can read Fisker- |
| 14:43.34 | Dotted | unlike you |
| 14:43.48 | PhotoJim | careful guys or this will start to become the new barrens chat :) |
| 14:43.57 | Adys | SHUT UP U NOOB |
| 14:44.00 | Fisker- | msg Adys :D? |
| 14:44.03 | Fisker- | i suck |
| 14:44.36 | Dotted | what is that anyway Adys? |
| 14:45.05 | Adys | afk |
| 14:45.27 | Kirkburn | PhotoJim, the mere idea scares me |
| 14:46.32 | PhotoJim | I have to admit that I know of barrens chat from rumour only. the one and only time I've been to the barrens, it was quiet. |
| 14:46.46 | Kirkburn | It's probably better now that it used to be |
| 14:47.33 | Kirkburn | To get the full sense of stupidity you need to spend a few hours of an evening levelling there. |
| 14:48.11 | Fisker- | i leveled your mother and so forth for a few hours of an evening |
| 14:48.23 | PhotoJim | I was helping my wife's warlock get her succubus, so we made a point to get in and out as quickly as possible :) |
| 14:48.29 | Dotted | Kirkburn or just listen to Fisker- for 5 minutes |
| 14:48.36 | Kirkburn | Or you :P |
| 14:48.42 | Adys | or both |
| 14:48.45 | Dotted | atlerast 10 |
| 14:48.46 | Fisker- | i fell in the barrens chat pot when i was young |
| 14:48.46 | Kirkburn | You too |
| 14:48.48 | Dotted | *Atleast |
| 14:48.49 | Dotted | >_> |
| 14:49.08 | PhotoJim | you guys make it seem like WoW was running in the '80s or something ;) |
| 14:49.12 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 14:49.18 | Kirkburn | Fisker- still is young :P |
| 14:49.24 | PhotoJim | apparently :) |
| 14:49.50 | PhotoJim | I wonder what the demographics of WoW players are |
| 14:49.50 | Adys | fisker is 2 |
| 14:49.55 | PhotoJim | there seems to be a decent number of "older" adults |
| 14:49.58 | Adys | he was born after the wow release |
| 14:50.03 | PhotoJim | lol Ad6s |
| 14:50.08 | PhotoJim | Adys that is |
| 14:50.15 | Adys | its spelled adys u noob |
| 14:50.28 | Fisker- | PhotoJim has laptop keyboar |
| 14:50.33 | Fisker- | keyboard* |
| 14:50.39 | PhotoJim | no, I have slow fingers this morning. |
| 14:50.40 | Adys | its spelled keyboard u noob |
| 14:51.00 | PhotoJim | My notebook has a full-sized keyboard. It would drive me nuts if it didn't. |
| 14:51.04 | Kirkburn | PhotoJim, from looking at how our visit stats are affected by holidays - there's not much change, so it has to be pretty mature |
| 14:51.14 | Dotted | keyboar, nice one Fisker- |
| 14:51.27 | PhotoJim | Kirkburn: I kind of get that impression, but purely anecdotally. |
| 14:51.28 | Kirkburn | That, or the players are so addicted that they play (and edit wowwiki) as much during term time as during holidays |
| 14:51.40 | PhotoJim | Well, that's quite possible too. |
| 14:51.43 | foxlit | Either that or we have a pretty distributed holiday season :) |
| 14:51.56 | PhotoJim | maybe lots of WoW players are atheists? :) |
| 14:52.25 | Kirkburn | I know at least ... uh ... one |
| 14:52.28 | Dotted | atheist are win |
| 14:52.44 | Kirkburn | I am win! |
| 14:52.44 | Dotted | +s |
| 14:52.51 | Kirkburn | +s |
| 14:52.54 | PhotoJim | All your base are belong to us! |
| 14:52.56 | Dotted | well actually im an agnostic |
| 14:52.58 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+s] by Adys |
| 14:52.58 | *** mode/#wowwiki [-s] by ChanServ |
| 14:53.02 | Adys | :( |
| 14:53.06 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 14:53.16 | Dotted | why would you +s it anyway? |
| 14:53.25 | Dotted | OMG PEEPS CANT KNOW IM ON WOWWIKI |
| 14:53.30 | Kirkburn | foxlit, I'm pretty sure it's hours, not months, difference between the EU and NA :P |
| 14:53.50 | PhotoJim | Kirkburn: maybe he has really bad lag :) |
| 14:54.06 | foxlit | stuff like school holidays might be a week or two different, depending on the country |
| 14:54.17 | foxlit | Or are we talking purely religious stuff like christmas? |
| 14:54.59 | foxlit | (for whatever value of purely religious that applies) |
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| 14:55.31 | Kirkburn | 0? |
| 14:55.53 | foxlit | pretty close; I probably meant more "anchored" to calendar dates :) |
| 14:55.54 | Kirkburn | foxlit, compared it to a few other MMO wiki sites, we didn't see the same dop |
| 14:55.59 | Kirkburn | or "drop" |
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| 14:58.51 | Fisker- | oh and btw Kirkburn |
| 14:58.56 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=2405528824&sid=1 |
| 15:02.37 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: The Lunar Festival begins today in Azeroth - http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/02/05/the-lunar-festival-begins-today-in-azeroth/ |
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| 15:02.50 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Breakfast Topic: Does the RNG hate you? - http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/02/05/breakfast-topic-does-the-rng-hate-you/ |
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| 15:08.37 | Fisker- | oh noes |
| 15:08.39 | Fisker- | i can't get D3 |
| 15:12.26 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Around Azeroth: Bottomless Arcatraz - http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/02/05/around-azeroth-bottomless-arcatraz/ |
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| 15:24.38 | Lukian | hmmm |
| 15:24.45 | Lukian | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:27.31 | foxlit | add () |
| 15:27.41 | foxlit | to the end of that |
| 15:28.30 | Lukian | ah cheers |
| 15:29.44 | [NewsBot] | World of Raids: WoWDB launch, Class Balancing, 2.4 Combat Log, blue posts - http://boards.worldofraids.com/topic-10646-1.html |
| 15:29.53 | [NewsBot] | World of Raids: More 2.4 info and Under Development page updated - http://boards.worldofraids.com/topic-10638-1.html |
| 15:30.02 | [NewsBot] | World of Raids: 2.4 info recap, BlizzCast 2 soon ,Movie & Site Watch - http://boards.worldofraids.com/topic-10596-1.html |
| 15:30.15 | [NewsBot] | World of Raids: Flow of 2.4 info - http://boards.worldofraids.com/topic-10579-1.html |
| 15:30.24 | [NewsBot] | World of Raids: Loot generation clarified, Personal Rating Issue, blue posts - http://boards.worldofraids.com/topic-10565-1.html |
| 15:30.39 | pcj | ooold |
| 15:31.47 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: The Lunar Festival begins today in Azeroth - http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/02/05/the-lunar-festival-begins-today-in-azeroth/ |
| 15:31.56 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Breakfast Topic: Does the RNG hate you? - http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/02/05/breakfast-topic-does-the-rng-hate-you/ |
| 15:32.05 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Rolling restarts for most US realms this morning - http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/02/05/rolling-restarts-for-most-us-realms-this-morning/ |
| 15:32.17 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Curse launches oddly familiar WoW database - http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/02/04/curse-launches-oddly-familiar-wow-database/ |
| 15:32.26 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Fandral Staghelm kill simulator - http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/02/04/fandral-staghelm-kill-simulator/ |
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| 15:34.40 | Lukian | How do I forcefully break stealth in a macro? |
| 15:34.45 | Lukian | (cat form) |
| 15:35.27 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:35.48 | [NewsBot] | AND WTF JUST HAPPENDED |
| 15:36.00 | [NewsBot] | stupid feeds are stupid |
| 15:36.34 | Lukian | foxlit, is there anyone to rangecheck with a macro or check if the previous cast has completed? |
| 15:36.53 | Lukian | Technically this should work: /cast Ravage /use [nostealth] 13 |
| 15:37.01 | Lukian | but it doesn't because it still thinks I'm stealthed |
| 15:37.15 | Lukian | but suppose I miss the Ravage, due to being out of range? My stealth breaks.. |
| 15:37.22 | Lukian | (if I don't use nostealth) |
| 15:41.02 | foxlit | Well, nothing readily available works like that |
| 15:41.07 | foxlit | It should be somewhat doable, though |
| 15:42.25 | pcj | thinking while fighting must be hard for druids |
| 15:42.57 | Lukian | pcj: you expect me to manually click my trinket while in arena? :p |
| 15:43.19 | foxlit | yes, actually :) |
| 15:43.21 | pcj | you could always...use a separate button? |
| 15:43.27 | foxlit | Doing that any other way seem silly |
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| 15:44.25 | Lukian | I guess I'll bind it to shift+4 or something.. |
| 15:44.46 | foxlit | T? |
| 15:44.55 | Lukian | I use t |
| 15:44.57 | foxlit | Y is also usually free and somewhat in range |
| 15:45.08 | Lukian | hmm too far I think |
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| 15:51.24 | Inkweaver | ? |
| 15:52.11 | Lukian | fail? |
| 15:52.14 | Kirkburn | enlightening |
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| 16:03.47 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: The Art of War(craft): Motion Theory Part I - http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/02/05/the-art-of-war-craft-motion-theory-part-i/ |
| 16:06.19 | Fisker- | lbtw Kirkburn |
| 16:06.21 | Fisker- | you heard me? |
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| 16:13.17 | Fisker- | Dotted |
| 16:13.21 | Fisker- | DYT DYT I'M A HYT |
| 16:13.40 | Dotted | hvad satan i hele hule helvede skal det betyde? |
| 16:13.56 | Fisker- | at jeg er en hytte :( |
| 16:16.59 | Kirkburn | Siete pazzi |
| 16:18.27 | Kirkburn | Puoi parlare in Ingelse, per favore? |
| 16:23.56 | pcj | ganking at lunar festival ftw |
| 16:25.57 | Fisker- | do it Kirkburn |
| 16:26.06 | Fisker- | pcj someone spawned eranikus here :D |
| 16:26.10 | Fisker- | it was xD lulz, etc. |
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| 16:30.23 | Dotted | Uvidenhed og inkompetence er en større trussel mod samfundet, end pædofili og terrorisme. |
| 16:30.24 | Dotted | Fisker- |
| 16:32.37 | Kyrin | !feeds |
| 16:34.16 | Dotted | !feeds |
| 16:34.19 | Dotted | :/ |
| 16:34.56 | Kyrin | Yes, I was disappointed also :P |
| 16:35.10 | Dotted | what should iot do? |
| 16:35.24 | Dotted | but |
| 16:35.29 | Kyrin | imo, tell me what rss feeds the bot uses :P |
| 16:35.29 | Dotted | #newsspam |
| 16:35.33 | Dotted | aha |
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| 16:36.03 | Kyrin | been looking for some good wow related rss feeds for my newsbot on my network |
| 16:36.19 | winkiller | lol, this curse thing |
| 16:36.32 | Kyrin | the wowdb? |
| 16:36.34 | winkiller | wowinsider is all worked up! |
| 16:36.35 | Fisker- | old news Dotted |
| 16:36.35 | winkiller | :D |
| 16:36.44 | Kirkburn | http://www.istartedsomething.com/20080205/real-reason-vista-sp1-not-released/ - lol |
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| 16:36.59 | Dotted | ved jeg sku da godt, det var burningshadows signatur igennem lang tid |
| 16:37.05 | Kyrin | I'll admit, I like the clean lines |
| 16:37.13 | Kyrin | it's one of the reasons I like wowhead |
| 16:37.15 | pcj | heheh |
| 16:37.20 | pcj | "what is omen" |
| 16:37.23 | Kirkburn | Ooh, we got an update 3 :P |
| 16:37.25 | pcj | "a threat meter, duh" |
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| 16:37.46 | Kalroth | Kirkburn: It's a bit misleading though. :) It says it confirms above statement :p |
| 16:37.48 | winkiller | Kirkburn: give details over wikia deal with curse |
| 16:37.49 | winkiller | :D |
| 16:38.04 | Fisker- | Not even a smile Kirkburn |
| 16:38.05 | winkiller | I hate irc-newsbots |
| 16:39.05 | Kirkburn | Kalroth, hah, I guess |
| 16:39.31 | Kirkburn | I'm sure people will realise it applies to update 2 :P |
| 16:39.35 | winkiller | ah, seen a comment |
| 16:39.46 | Dotted | i hate you too winkiller, but its not like i publicly state it... |
| 16:39.51 | Dotted | OH SHI- |
| 16:39.53 | Kalroth | Yeah, if they even read that far, Kirkburn :) |
| 16:39.56 | Dotted | ;D |
| 16:40.01 | Kirkburn | :O |
| 16:40.22 | Kirkburn | Kalroth, ah, but update 1 was the contentious bit, so they'd have to have read that too :P |
| 16:40.32 | Fisker- | i also hate winkiller btw |
| 16:40.49 | winkiller | Fisker-: you hate everything, you don't count. misanthrope |
| 16:41.06 | Fisker- | lies |
| 16:41.46 | Kalroth | Kirkburn: I got a 3 million euro/year job for you, on the day you get your users to read things as they were intended :P |
| 16:41.47 | [NewsBot] | BlizzPlanet: CVG - Wrath of the Lich King: Part One - Knowing the Lore - http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=2066 |
| 16:41.53 | [NewsBot] | BlizzPlanet: Starcraft II Q&A - Batch 28 - http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=2065 |
| 16:41.59 | [NewsBot] | BlizzPlanet: World of Warcraft TCG: Servants of the Betrayer Released - http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=2067 |
| 16:42.05 | [NewsBot] | BlizzPlanet: WoW - Warrior's Endless Rage Fix on Patch 2.4 - http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=2069 |
| 16:42.05 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 16:42.17 | [NewsBot] | BlizzPlanet: World of Warcraft TCG: Spectral Safari Announced - http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=2068 |
| 16:42.21 | *** join/#wowwiki Lopen|Wooork (n=lopen@207.74.131.2) |
| 16:42.22 | winkiller | spam spam spam spam spam spam spam, lovely spam, wonderful spam |
| 16:42.35 | Kirkburn | Hey, it's news, and Blizzplanet is cool :) |
| 16:42.41 | Kalroth | This channel is a homage to Monty Python! |
| 16:42.49 | Kirkburn | Lack of eggs. |
| 16:43.38 | Dotted | [+winkiller]: Fisker-: you hate everything <- thats a lie actually, he has a Microsoft fetish |
| 16:43.38 | winkiller | and a dead parrot |
| 16:43.59 | winkiller | s/everything/everyone/ |
| 16:45.12 | Kalroth | Fisker and Microsoft was sitting in a tree W-A-N- .. err, nevermind. |
| 16:45.38 | winkiller | Wan Tan? yeah, mine will be delivered in like 10mins |
| 16:45.46 | [NewsBot] | Dark Legacy: #109:Sign From Above - http://www.darklegacycomics.com/109.html |
| 16:45.55 | [NewsBot] | Dark Legacy: #108:Jog - http://www.darklegacycomics.com/108.html |
| 16:46.04 | [NewsBot] | Dark Legacy: #107:Brains - http://www.darklegacycomics.com/107.html |
| 16:46.19 | [NewsBot] | Dark Legacy: #110:Escort - http://www.darklegacycomics.com/110.html |
| 16:46.28 | [NewsBot] | Dark Legacy: #113:Leper - http://www.darklegacycomics.com/113.html |
| 16:46.39 | Dotted | oh yeah |
| 16:46.50 | winkiller | SPAM |
| 16:47.04 | Dotted | try #newsspam |
| 16:47.08 | Dotted | thats fun |
| 16:47.48 | [NewsBot] | GamePolitics: BBC Program: Brainy DS Game Discriminates Against Scottish Accents - http://gamepolitics.com/2008/02/05/bbc-program-brainy-ds-game-discriminates-against-scottish-accents/ |
| 16:47.57 | [NewsBot] | GamePolitics: Mainstream Media Shoots Self in Foot with Sensationalized Game Coverage - http://gamepolitics.com/2008/02/05/mainstream-news-shoots-itself-in-the-foot-with-sensationalized-game-coverage/ |
| 16:48.06 | [NewsBot] | GamePolitics: Publisher Gamecock Launches Site to Promote Voter Registration & Upcoming Game - http://gamepolitics.com/2008/02/05/publisher-gamecock-launches-site-to-promote-voter-registration-upcoming-game/ |
| 16:48.18 | [NewsBot] | GamePolitics: Immigrant Detainees’ Wii Play Sparks U.K. Protest - http://gamepolitics.com/2008/02/05/immigrant-detainees-wii-play-sparks-uk-protest/ |
| 16:48.27 | [NewsBot] | GamePolitics: Study: Men More Likely to Become Game-Addicted - http://gamepolitics.com/2008/02/05/study-men-more-likely-to-become-game-addicted/ |
| 16:48.52 | Dotted | errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr |
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| 16:49.17 | Kalroth | Dotted: Is that bot a Microsoft product? |
| 16:49.28 | Kyrin | lol |
| 16:49.30 | Dotted | cant tell |
| 16:49.48 | Dotted | but i've been suspicious of it for some time |
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| 16:49.50 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+v Foxbot] by ChanServ |
| 16:51.40 | Fisker- | i hate both of you and [NewsBot] now |
| 16:51.56 | Dotted | but why? |
| 16:53.00 | Fisker- | because DYT DYT I'M A HYT |
| 16:53.44 | Kirkburn | Dotted, I still find it useful, even if it does that every so often :) |
| 16:54.27 | Dotted | well normally its only when it crashes, but i just restarted the bot so still odd |
| 16:54.42 | Dotted | and annoying as F |
| 16:55.20 | foxlit | Wonder if I would be stepping on people's toes if I redid userboxes |
| 16:55.26 | Kirkburn | Well, it's hardly killing anyone to see an extra few lines of text :P |
| 16:55.30 | Kirkburn | foxlit, ooh, how so? |
| 16:55.44 | Kirkburn | And no, I wouldn't worry |
| 16:55.57 | Fisker- | also |
| 16:55.59 | foxlit | Wikipedia uses a common template to keep the formatting a bit sane, and most of our boxes are rather ugly |
| 16:56.06 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=2405528824&sid=1 |
| 16:56.07 | Fisker- | do it |
| 16:56.12 | Kirkburn | Yeah, agreed foxlit |
| 16:56.42 | Dotted | btw Kirkburn |
| 16:56.46 | Dotted | #newsspam |
| 16:57.22 | Kirkburn | Oh, yeah, meant to join that |
| 16:58.17 | Kirkburn | You should advertise that more |
| 16:58.37 | Dotted | i'll just get banned if i did :p |
| 16:58.53 | Kirkburn | On here, silly :P |
| 16:59.19 | Kirkburn | Could be added to the wowwiki page too |
| 16:59.26 | Dotted | /timer 0 60 msg #wowwiki LULZ JOIN #NEWSSPAM FOR SPAMZ |
| 16:59.34 | Dotted | sounds like a plan |
| 16:59.43 | Kirkburn | :O |
| 16:59.48 | Dotted | :D |
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| 17:03.07 | Dotted | dcramer_ where is my XML? |
| 17:03.13 | dcramer_ | what xml |
| 17:03.18 | Dotted | wowdb |
| 17:03.19 | Kyrin | interesting.... http://wow.curse.com/wikia/Main_Page |
| 17:03.21 | dcramer_ | we dont give xml to newbies |
| 17:03.27 | Dotted | FU |
| 17:03.29 | Kyrin | though I think I prefer it not embedded |
| 17:03.31 | Dotted | I WAS PROMISED |
| 17:03.35 | dcramer_ | lol |
| 17:03.42 | foxlit | (use armory xml, nub!) |
| 17:03.44 | dcramer_ | ya Kyrin -- we had issues getting the design implemented |
| 17:03.55 | Kyrin | could be worse I suppose |
| 17:04.04 | Kirkburn | Yah, go monobook >_> |
| 17:04.20 | Kyrin | The main problem though? logging in |
| 17:04.25 | dcramer_ | Kirkburn: you saw that mockup I made ya? it was pretty cool :p |
| 17:04.28 | Dotted | foxlit no fun |
| 17:05.07 | Kyrin | was slow as hell, and really, if I'm going to login to wowwiki, I'll do it on wowwiki, not a 3rd-party site |
| 17:05.13 | dcramer_ | ah i think i still have it |
| 17:05.22 | dcramer_ | hrm but its all bugged |
| 17:05.47 | Kyrin | yea |
| 17:05.48 | dcramer_ | its our generic footer Fisker- :P |
| 17:05.59 | Kyrin | well, nesting sites can be tricky |
| 17:06.10 | dcramer_ | very true |
| 17:06.15 | Fisker- | get a new one :P |
| 17:06.23 | Fisker- | but yeah i guessed that was the problem |
| 17:06.27 | Kyrin | hence why I'd much rather just use wowwiki as it is |
| 17:06.39 | Kirkburn | To each their own |
| 17:06.44 | Kyrin | though, I really do like the ajax search box on wowdb |
| 17:06.48 | pcj | yeah, what's really the point of having a wowwiki portal on curse |
| 17:07.07 | kd3 | especially since it's rather broken with javascript turned off |
| 17:07.12 | dcramer_ | basically the wowwiki idea was a bust because we couldn't get what we needed implemented |
| 17:07.17 | dcramer_ | why would you turn javascript off -.- |
| 17:07.22 | dcramer_ | curse is pretty much broken w/o javascript |
| 17:07.25 | kd3 | because I never turn it on unless I have to |
| 17:07.26 | dcramer_ | cant expect the rest of curse to work |
| 17:07.44 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: WoW Moviewatch: Spash, the movie - http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/02/05/wow-moviewatch-spash-the-movie/ |
| 17:07.52 | Kirkburn | kd3, well, we do use JS on wowwiki too kd3 :P |
| 17:08.02 | kd3 | and that's one of the few sites where I turn it on |
| 17:08.10 | kd3 | [[WW:AVT]] is all .js, I know... |
| 17:08.11 | [NewsBot] | kd3 meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/WW:AVT |
| 17:08.26 | Kirkburn | pcj, keeping people within a site is highly important for website revenue |
| 17:08.34 | pcj | so they get money for using our content? |
| 17:09.07 | Kirkburn | pcj, what do you think Wikia does? |
| 17:09.10 | dcramer_ | lol |
| 17:09.17 | pcj | But it's wikia's content |
| 17:09.21 | dcramer_ | technically |
| 17:09.26 | dcramer_ | we own the content as much as wikia |
| 17:09.34 | dcramer_ | (as much as anyone can) |
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| 17:10.17 | dcramer_ | Kirkburn: its amusing that people see the year old Wikia stuff now that wowdb is out :P |
| 17:10.34 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 17:10.53 | WyriHaximus13th | wowdb? |
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| 17:11.00 | dcramer_ | (.com) |
| 17:11.05 | pcj | some newb site which copied wowhead |
| 17:11.13 | dcramer_ | pcj: which copied thottbot |
| 17:11.26 | pcj | Not as much |
| 17:11.27 | dcramer_ | which copied google |
| 17:11.29 | dcramer_ | which copied msn |
| 17:11.35 | foxlit | wth? |
| 17:11.36 | dcramer_ | which copied apple |
| 17:11.38 | dcramer_ | idk |
| 17:11.43 | foxlit | my bff jill? |
| 17:11.46 | Kaso | how did google copy msn? |
| 17:11.55 | dcramer_ | Kaso: google didnt create search :P |
| 17:11.55 | Kaso | lol foxlit :> |
| 17:12.01 | Kaso | no, but msn didnt either |
| 17:12.03 | WyriHaximus13th | rather wowhead |
| 17:12.06 | foxlit | dcramer_ just couldn't continue that line |
| 17:12.16 | WyriHaximus13th | kinda cold site tho -.- |
| 17:12.16 | dcramer_ | im pretty sure microsoft was one of the first established web searches :P |
| 17:12.23 | dcramer_ | im just guessing |
| 17:12.25 | dcramer_ | but you get the idea |
| 17:12.25 | foxlit | MSN? No |
| 17:12.30 | foxlit | "google copied altavista" would probably be more accurate |
| 17:12.34 | foxlit | yahoo, too |
| 17:12.48 | dcramer_ | you can technically say wowhead copied parts of wowdb :P |
| 17:12.51 | Kaso | lycos was pretty early too |
| 17:12.55 | dcramer_ | no one had a model viewer before we released ours :) |
| 17:13.09 | foxlit | People need affilation tags! |
| 17:13.10 | WyriHaximus13th | dunno wasn't altavista first dcramer_ ? |
| 17:13.12 | foxlit | who is "us"? |
| 17:13.15 | dcramer_ | might have been |
| 17:13.30 | dcramer_ | us, being Curse |
| 17:13.42 | pcj | well no one uses curse anyway |
| 17:13.51 | pcj | so wowhead might as well have been first |
| 17:13.55 | dcramer_ | (its the #1 trafficked addon site :P) |
| 17:14.05 | dcramer_ | i wasnt talking about dbs :) |
| 17:14.12 | WyriHaximus13th | imo I rather use the best then the first :P |
| 17:14.14 | foxlit | Hey, I like curse! |
| 17:14.16 | dcramer_ | wowdb is part of the curse network |
| 17:14.25 | dcramer_ | WyriHaximus13th: thats why sites like wowhead even exist |
| 17:14.33 | dcramer_ | because people do want to use the best, even if they look like other sites, or steal features, etc. |
| 17:14.39 | dcramer_ | its all about who can steal the most features |
| 17:14.40 | dcramer_ | :P |
| 17:14.44 | foxlit | (and wowdb's inline search rewriting search results are <3) |
| 17:14.45 | dcramer_ | (or create their own along the way) |
| 17:14.49 | WyriHaximus13th | then Microsoft wins :P |
| 17:14.53 | dcramer_ | lol |
| 17:14.58 | dcramer_ | WyriHaximus13th: if they aquire yahoo maybe ;) |
| 17:14.59 | foxlit | MS is slow and big |
| 17:15.05 | foxlit | A bit of a disadvantage there |
| 17:15.10 | pcj | ur mom is slow and big |
| 17:15.14 | WyriHaximus13th | true |
| 17:15.28 | foxlit | pcj: that's what she said about you! |
| 17:15.44 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Error reading source feed. - http://www.wowinsider.com/rss.xml |
| 17:15.52 | pcj | gg wowi |
| 17:16.01 | kd3 | lol. random fark humor for just a moment. hitting the main page within a few seconds of each other: |
| 17:16.02 | Kyrin | lol |
| 17:16.07 | kd3 | [Cool] There's no denying it, Obama is the clear winner in California : Zogby says 49% Obama, 36% Clinton |
| 17:16.13 | kd3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:16.13 | kd3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:16.13 | kd3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:16.13 | kd3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:16.15 | Kirkburn | :O |
| 17:16.21 | kd3 | and ick, sorry for the \ns |
| 17:16.23 | Kirkburn | whoops :P |
| 17:16.31 | Kyrin | gg kd3 |
| 17:16.34 | pcj | [Cool] OK! |
| 17:16.43 | dcramer_ | no way |
| 17:16.55 | dcramer_ | Obama! |
| 17:17.01 | dcramer_ | i forgot to register when i moved :( |
| 17:18.08 | kd3 | but going back to wowdb... what's with the cloning of nearly the entire text of the article? |
| 17:18.12 | kd3 | http://www.wowdb.com/item.aspx?id=19019 |
| 17:18.22 | dcramer_ | basically its the same thing wowhead does |
| 17:18.29 | dcramer_ | and we didnt want to launch with less than what wowhead did |
| 17:18.46 | kd3 | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=19019 |
| 17:19.24 | WyriHaximus13th | Nice it seems like every wowdb/wowhead/thottbot etc site is popping up with 3D moddels lately :o |
| 17:19.45 | foxlit | And they're all breaking the ToU |
| 17:20.01 | foxlit | But hey, not like anyone is going to care :P |
| 17:20.10 | WyriHaximus13th | Just wondering on what point foxlit ? |
| 17:20.13 | WyriHaximus13th | And that yes |
| 17:20.19 | WyriHaximus13th | most people problebly like it :P |
| 17:20.37 | foxlit | You're not given access to textures/models in any open fashion |
| 17:20.47 | WyriHaximus13th | Yup plain and clear :) |
| 17:20.50 | ggilbert | dcramer_: I just realized who you were. The Django stuff you posted on your site made for interesting reading while I was poking around with it. Thanks for posting it. |
| 17:20.53 | dcramer_ | its not breaking the ToU |
| 17:20.57 | dcramer_ | ggilbert: :) |
| 17:21.09 | Kaso | Dont wowdb/wowhead have to licence that document (or part of, im not entirely sure) under the GNU FDL to be in complience with wowwiki licence? |
| 17:21.15 | Dotted | well lets just hope the democrats win, then atleast the US have a chance of not crapping over |
| 17:21.36 | foxlit | Kaso: The content that they derive from FDL have to be kept under FDL |
| 17:21.37 | dcramer_ | Kaso: we have full permissions |
| 17:22.01 | dcramer_ | when are the primaries decided on? |
| 17:22.02 | foxlit | I'm not sure they were anyone's to grant |
| 17:22.05 | kd3 | yes, but "full permissions" doesn't supersede the FDL |
| 17:22.31 | foxlit | (As in, I license contributions under guess what; Wikia can't crosslicense breaking FDL) |
| 17:23.19 | Kaso | mm indeed, the license holders are still the page editors, iirc |
| 17:24.16 | dcramer_ | I can't comment, not familiar w/ all the damn licensing agreements that exist today |
| 17:24.17 | dcramer_ | :p |
| 17:24.18 | Kirkburn | You basically have to post that the content is still under FDL? |
| 17:24.37 | kd3 | http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/fdl.html have fun |
| 17:24.39 | TecnoBrat | the license is quite plain actually .. |
| 17:24.40 | foxlit | I don't foresee an issue |
| 17:24.41 | TecnoBrat | You may copy and distribute the Document in any medium, either commercially or noncommercially, provided that this License, the copyright notices, and the license notice saying this License applies to the Document are reproduced in all copies, and that you add no other conditions whatsoever to those of this License. |
| 17:24.51 | dcramer_ | kd3: and i dont plan to educate myself today :) |
| 17:25.00 | foxlit | Since nobody is actually creating derivative content from the wiki - bloody leeches! |
| 17:25.06 | TecnoBrat | And .. this also |
| 17:25.07 | TecnoBrat | You may copy and distribute a Modified Version of the Document under the conditions of sections 2 and 3 above, provided that you release the Modified Version under precisely this License, with the Modified Version filling the role of the Document, thus licensing distribution and modification of the Modified Version to whoever possesses a copy of it |
| 17:25.13 | TecnoBrat | those are the important bits |
| 17:25.51 | Kirkburn | Basically, say that bit is under GFDL and you're done? |
| 17:25.51 | TecnoBrat | well relevant to what we are discussing |
| 17:26.00 | TecnoBrat | Kirkburn, correct |
| 17:26.09 | TecnoBrat | and you should link to the original |
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| 17:26.30 | Kirkburn | So could go just under the cite |
| 17:26.42 | TecnoBrat | correct |
| 17:26.52 | Kirkburn | peasy :) |
| 17:26.56 | TecnoBrat | yep |
| 17:27.27 | Kirkburn | Yeah, seen similar setups on Wikia, for the Wikipedia template |
| 17:27.59 | Fisker- | hej Kirkburn |
| 17:31.05 | pcj | any update on quartz v3 kirkburn |
| 17:31.43 | Kirkburn | Coming, as per usual |
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| 17:34.41 | Kirkburn | Hey Teomyr |
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| 17:37.39 | Kirkburn | Dotted, MMO-champion/WoR not on the list? |
| 17:38.07 | Dotted | well WoR news is on the curse one aswell |
| 17:38.18 | Kirkburn | ah |
| 17:38.25 | Kirkburn | Dammit, it's a silent channel |
| 17:38.38 | Dotted | and i figured there isnt a need for mmoc |
| 17:38.47 | Fisker- | FU |
| 17:38.48 | Kirkburn | kk |
| 17:39.10 | Fisker- | corporate bastards and what not |
| 17:39.23 | Bibi | it's a waste of time to link MMO-C, it will end up on WoR anyway |
| 17:40.04 | Bibi | go hug someone else :/ |
| 17:40.42 | Kirkburn | :( |
| 17:40.49 | Fisker- | it's a shame that worldofwar.net is still a fansite |
| 17:41.01 | Kirkburn | Harsh |
| 17:41.16 | Fisker- | why? |
| 17:41.39 | Adys | fisker |
| 17:41.41 | Adys | this is for you |
| 17:41.44 | Adys | http://devcub.com/ballmer.jpg (nsfw) |
| 17:41.46 | Fisker- | don't want it |
| 17:42.04 | Fisker- | nice |
| 17:42.06 | Fisker- | i agree |
| 17:42.20 | Fisker- | anyway why harsh Kirkburn? :o |
| 17:42.22 | pcj | <+Fisker-> sometimes i walk down dark alleys in hopes of getting sodomized |
| 17:42.32 | Dotted | but i just set it up to my prefference Kirkburn, so if you want mmoc slowinsider added, let me know |
| 17:42.43 | Kirkburn | That's Godwin's Law all in itself :P |
| 17:43.00 | Kirkburn | Dotted, nah, all good :) |
| 17:43.07 | Fisker- | i want mmoc :( |
| 17:43.17 | Fisker- | and slowinsider for my daily dose of lulz too |
| 17:43.37 | Dotted | well you arent on the channel |
| 17:43.39 | Dotted | so stfu |
| 17:44.23 | Kirkburn | Fisker-, it's on on this channel last I recall |
| 17:44.38 | Fisker- | i mean the "harsh" thing you posted earlier |
| 17:45.03 | Dotted | yeah it is |
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| 17:46.20 | Kirkburn | Fisker-, you're the one who said "<Fisker-> it's a shame that worldofwar.net is still a fansite" ... |
| 17:46.26 | Fisker- | ah ok |
| 17:46.38 | Fisker- | You use Wowhead or WoWInterface right? |
| 17:47.04 | Kirkburn | I use whichever fulfills my needs at the time :) |
| 17:47.14 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 17:47.20 | Fisker- | But if you happen to use any of those 2 sites |
| 17:47.28 | Fisker- | then you're support pedophiles |
| 17:47.32 | Fisker- | +ing |
| 17:47.35 | Fisker- | is that less harsh? :o |
| 17:47.57 | Fisker- | (For reference, that's what Rushter called Wowhead users and other companies owned by affinity) |
| 17:49.57 | Fisker- | And yeah i don't think it's cool that a fansite member is accusing other fansite members of supporting pedophiles |
| 17:50.18 | Fisker- | nor does the fansite terms |
| 17:50.25 | Fisker- | But Blizzard doesn't care |
| 17:51.42 | Adys | woah you guys are still on fansite dramas |
| 17:52.00 | Fisker- | definitely |
| 17:52.02 | Adys | gee theres meaningful stuff to do out there :/ |
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| 17:52.32 | Dotted | what drama? |
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| 17:53.16 | Kirkburn | Fisker-, I certainly hear ya, but I'd rather not give an opinion on it |
| 17:53.30 | Kirkburn | I'm getting way too involved in this stuff as it is |
| 17:53.35 | pcj | just tell him to fuck off and be done with it |
| 17:53.47 | Fisker- | no u |
| 17:53.51 | Dotted | Kirkburn what drama?????? |
| 17:53.54 | Dotted | i wanna know |
| 17:54.14 | Kirkburn | Aaaanyway, Dotted, how's wowwiki.dk going? |
| 17:54.24 | Fisker- | atleast now you know why it's not harsh, atleast not in my opinion anyways |
| 17:54.26 | Dotted | *cough* gief drama |
| 17:54.40 | Dotted | its doing shit, but now gief drama |
| 17:54.53 | pcj | !wwstats |
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| 17:54.56 | dcramer_ | ggilbert: so you use Django? |
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| 17:54.59 | pcj | !sup |
| 17:54.59 | Foxbot | There are currently 0 queued operations. |
| 17:55.03 | pcj | !jobqueue |
| 17:55.05 | [NewsBot] | The www.wowwiki.com job queue length is currently 912 doing ~1 job/s, done in approx. 15mins 12secs. |
| 17:55.10 | Dotted | damn you pcj you scared me |
| 17:55.17 | ggilbert | dcramer_: Not really, I'm just a hopeless fiddler |
| 17:55.35 | [NewsBot] | pcj has updated the stats for #wowwiki! Check out the stats at http://www.bxd.dk/irc/freenode/wowwiki.html |
| 17:55.37 | Dotted | i didnt notice the !wwstats, and only saw ::: Part: ([NewsBot]) |
| 17:55.38 | dcramer_ | ah |
| 17:55.39 | ggilbert | I like playing with things and seeing if they work for me |
| 17:55.51 | dcramer_ | Django's pretty cool |
| 17:55.54 | dcramer_ | it's what power's Curse |
| 17:55.57 | dcramer_ | (for now) |
| 17:57.15 | Dotted | btw Kirkburn, shouldnt i just replace the WoR feed with the curse feed? |
| 17:57.30 | Dotted | no that dcramer_ finally made the curse feed not suck :P |
| 17:57.37 | Dotted | *cough* much |
| 17:57.58 | pcj | item jagged talasite |
| 17:58.11 | Kirkburn | >_< |
| 17:58.15 | pcj | !item jagged talasite |
| 17:58.15 | Foxbot | Page generator crashed for [jagged talasite]. |
| 17:58.27 | Kirkburn | *sigh* could have chosen a better time, but I don't see why not |
| 18:02.44 | foxlit | well, yes |
| 18:03.27 | foxlit | I have a circular reference that will not be resolved |
| 18:03.45 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Raid Rx: I feel the need... the need for speed Part 1 - http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/02/05/raid-rx-i-feel-the-need-the-need-for-speed-part-1/ |
| 18:04.48 | Fisker- | fail |
| 18:08.57 | foxlit | Used to be okay since requires weren't actually enforced, but I don't want to roll that back :P |
| 18:11.40 | Gourra | !editcount Gourra |
| 18:12.01 | pcj | !editcount pcj |
| 18:12.11 | pcj | !trcount Template:Item |
| 18:12.12 | dcramer_ | !editcount zeeg |
| 18:12.19 | dcramer_ | :o |
| 18:12.20 | Foxbot | zeeg made 33 edits, of which 0 were minor and 1 were commented. |
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| 18:12.36 | dcramer_ | pro |
| 18:12.38 | dcramer_ | i got 33 |
| 18:12.43 | Foxbot | Template:Item has been transcluded in 2833 pages. |
| 18:13.52 | Kirkburn | pcj, it's still counting yours? |
| 18:13.55 | pcj | yes |
| 18:13.59 | pcj | !editcount pcj |
| 18:13.59 | Kirkburn | nice :) |
| 18:14.01 | Foxbot | But I'm already counting the edits of pcj! |
| 18:14.05 | Fisker- | !editcount Fisker |
| 18:14.10 | pcj | !editcount Kirkburn |
| 18:14.21 | Foxbot | Fisker made 1051 edits, of which 559 were minor and 679 were commented. |
| 18:14.41 | pcj | !editcount Varghedin |
| 18:14.44 | foxlit | Never fear, it's coming to you in epeenbox format! |
| 18:14.58 | foxlit | Just as soon as {{Userbox}} is awesome |
| 18:17.14 | Foxbot | pcj made 29746 edits, of which 27457 were minor and 15859 were commented. |
| 18:18.19 | [NewsBot] | MMO Champion: 2.4 classes changes, CoT, cooking, blue posts - http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=4079.0 |
| 18:18.25 | pcj | oooolf |
| 18:18.25 | [NewsBot] | MMO Champion: 2.4 Under Development page and more details - http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=4068.0 |
| 18:18.27 | pcj | d* |
| 18:18.31 | [NewsBot] | MMO Champion: Wowhead update, comics, 2.4 compilation - http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=4062.0 |
| 18:19.06 | Foxbot | Kirkburn made 22369 edits, of which 10517 were minor and 11695 were commented. |
| 18:19.13 | pcj | pwnt |
| 18:19.26 | Kirkburn | hehe |
| 18:19.32 | Kirkburn | Yeah, but will you beat Varg? |
| 18:19.34 | pcj | no |
| 18:19.40 | pcj | he's probably nearing 50k |
| 18:19.46 | pcj | !editcount Foxbot |
| 18:19.54 | Kirkburn | poor thing :( |
| 18:20.15 | foxlit | poor wiki, tbh! |
| 18:20.30 | Adys | foxbot will die before finishing counting |
| 18:20.40 | foxlit | nah, it's efficient] |
| 18:20.41 | pcj | !editcount Baggins |
| 18:20.42 | foxlit | !sup |
| 18:20.45 | Foxbot | There are currently 0 queued operations. |
| 18:20.45 | Dotted | btw someone wanna set up a bot for to blatantly copy articles from wowwiki to another wiki for me kthx? It just needs to be able to run on winblowz |
| 18:20.47 | foxlit | and responsive, too |
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| 18:22.39 | Adys | waaah |
| 18:22.39 | Adys | [19:22:26] <NewdleBot> Adys [288/380] has come upon Microsoft [384/496] and been defeated in combat! 0 days, 02:05:00 is added to Adys's clock. |
| 18:22.49 | Adys | fuck you idlerpg |
| 18:23.05 | pcj | pwnt |
| 18:24.00 | Fisker- | i like where this thread is going |
| 18:24.45 | Dotted | Fisker- |
| 18:24.58 | Dotted | can win2008 run on a 8GB CF card? |
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| 18:25.37 | pcj | wow |
| 18:25.41 | Adys | lol |
| 18:25.48 | Fisker- | dunno Dotted |
| 18:25.49 | Dotted | !editcount Dotted |
| 18:25.53 | Fisker- | can your mother and so forth do so? |
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| 18:26.02 | Adys | !editcount adys |
| 18:26.02 | Dotted | yes |
| 18:26.30 | Kirkburn | Holy hell .. he's over 50k!? |
| 18:26.36 | Kirkburn | Has he got the badge yet? |
| 18:26.41 | pcj | Just did |
| 18:26.57 | Teomyr | :o |
| 18:26.59 | Kirkburn | That is quite, quite amazing |
| 18:26.59 | foxlit | OVER NINE THOUSAND! |
| 18:27.01 | winkiller | o_O |
| 18:27.02 | foxlit | Sorry. |
| 18:27.06 | foxlit | That was called for, anyway. |
| 18:27.11 | Teomyr | and hello kirkburn, sorry for not replying earlier on :D |
| 18:27.15 | Kirkburn | heh |
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| 18:29.08 | Foxbot | adys made 12245 edits, of which 6881 were minor and 3280 were commented. |
| 18:29.09 | Foxbot | Baggins made 34530 edits, of which 1150 were minor and 3633 were commented. |
| 18:29.32 | Foxbot | Foxbot made 42127 edits, of which 1 were minor and 42122 were commented. |
| 18:29.41 | pcj | !editcount Fandyllic |
| 18:29.45 | foxlit | teehee |
| 18:29.51 | foxlit | I need to queue more edits! |
| 18:30.03 | Adys | varg beats your bot |
| 18:30.04 | foxlit | (wonder what the minor edit was, too!) |
| 18:30.04 | Adys | pwnd tbh |
| 18:30.11 | foxlit | varg is a bot! |
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| 18:32.10 | Foxbot | Fandyllic made 29203 edits, of which 11046 were minor and 9702 were commented. |
| 18:33.07 | Kirkburn | arr, pcj be beating Fandy. |
| 18:33.13 | Adys | well |
| 18:33.15 | Adys | Im off for a week |
| 18:33.22 | pcj | yay |
| 18:33.24 | foxlit | http://www.wowwiki.com/Template_talk:Userbox#Test_Vectors |
| 18:33.26 | Kirkburn | Fortunately not in real life (almost) |
| 18:33.30 | Kirkburn | Adys, have fun! |
| 18:33.30 | Adys | go die pcj |
| 18:33.41 | Adys | Kirkburn: Ill see you from teomyr's house, maybe :P |
| 18:33.56 | Kirkburn | :O |
| 18:34.24 | Adys | anyhoo, gonna finish sme preparations |
| 18:34.27 | Adys | bb :) |
| 18:34.27 | Teomyr | hehe |
| 18:34.36 | Kirkburn | foxlit, fixed width for the images? |
| 18:34.56 | foxlit | Kirkburn: Yes, at the moment. |
| 18:35.01 | foxlit | It's going to end up in parameters, anyway |
| 18:35.05 | Kirkburn | Fixed height also good |
| 18:35.15 | Dotted | !editcount laurlybot |
| 18:36.29 | Foxbot | laurlybot made 12825 edits, of which 12787 were minor and 12824 were commented. |
| 18:38.33 | Ose | o.O |
| 18:38.39 | Ose | that's cool |
| 18:39.20 | Ose | can anyone do that? |
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| 18:40.20 | Dotted | do what Ose? |
| 18:40.35 | Ose | !editcount ose |
| 18:40.37 | Ose | that |
| 18:40.39 | Foxbot | ose made 644 edits, of which 488 were minor and 236 were commented. |
| 18:40.43 | Dotted | :) |
| 18:40.48 | Ose | awesome |
| 18:41.39 | Ose | commented? have I made 236 comments, or does it mean something else? |
| 18:42.59 | Kirkburn | How many edits you put edit comments on |
| 18:43.12 | Kirkburn | The box that appears above the "save page" box |
| 18:43.14 | Gourra | it means that of your 644 edits you've put something in the "summary" box |
| 18:43.19 | Dotted | yers |
| 18:43.21 | Dotted | -r |
| 18:43.46 | Ose | I see... |
| 18:43.59 | Ose | nice work fox :) |
| 18:44.31 | Dotted | !8ball Was it really nice work? |
| 18:44.31 | [NewsBot] | Dotted: Outlook good. |
| 18:44.37 | Dotted | damn :( |
| 18:44.53 | pcj | Powerpoint bad? |
| 18:44.55 | Ose | lol |
| 18:48.08 | pcj | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7227861.stm |
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| 18:55.40 | Bagginsww | Heyo gourra you on? |
| 18:56.00 | Gourra | I'm here |
| 18:56.32 | Bagginsww | you interested in designing an icon for a new potential template? |
| 18:56.36 | Kirkburn | zomg Bagginsww |
| 18:56.55 | Bagginsww | sure Kirkburn school takes most of my time :p |
| 18:56.57 | Gourra | sure, what kind of template is it? |
| 18:57.05 | Bagginsww | just a sec I'll link to it |
| 18:57.47 | Bagginsww | as soon as I can load the page :p |
| 18:58.47 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Template_talk:Multisource there is the talk page for it |
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| 19:05.46 | Gourra | how big shall the icon be? |
| 19:06.15 | sacarasc | 1280x1280! |
| 19:06.21 | Gourra | awsm |
| 19:06.24 | Gourra | pixeeeel maniaa |
| 19:08.49 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Upper Deck announces new booster set and Spectral Safari details - http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/02/05/upper-deck-announces-new-booster-set-and-spectral-safari-details/ |
| 19:19.09 | foxlit | Love the quote in that bbc article |
| 19:19.11 | foxlit | "It is human beings they are experimenting with" |
| 19:19.28 | foxlit | It's so "zomg, think of the kittens!" |
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| 19:28.54 | pcj | hi dutempete |
| 19:29.01 | pcj | !editcount dutempete |
| 19:29.01 | DuTempete | hi pcj :) |
| 19:29.02 | Foxbot | Who is this dutempete? Zero edits! |
| 19:29.07 | DuTempete | ... |
| 19:29.14 | DuTempete | !editcount DuTempete |
| 19:29.23 | Kirkburn | yay |
| 19:29.24 | Foxbot | DuTempete made 1523 edits, of which 724 were minor and 1408 were commented. |
| 19:29.36 | DuTempete | case sensitive, pcj :P |
| 19:32.37 | pcj | o rly |
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| 19:32.52 | pcj | stupid foxbot |
| 19:33.00 | [fserv]cappiz | pcj you there? |
| 19:33.04 | [fserv]cappiz | hey |
| 19:33.09 | pcj | what |
| 19:33.28 | [fserv]cappiz | about the Paid Character Transfer that you just had an "edit-battle" on |
| 19:34.00 | [fserv]cappiz | I tried to find the meaning of "pct" which is very often used and It can't be found through a "pct" search |
| 19:34.23 | pcj | You don't have to link to PCT to make it come up in a search |
| 19:34.42 | Adys | !editcount MediaWiki_default |
| 19:34.44 | Foxbot | Who is this MediaWiki_default? Zero edits! |
| 19:34.55 | Adys | !editcount MediaWiki default |
| 19:34.57 | Foxbot | Who is this MediaWiki default? Zero edits! |
| 19:35.03 | [fserv]cappiz | How can we make it possible for people to search for just "pct"? nothing relevant comes up |
| 19:35.17 | Adys | afk again |
| 19:36.04 | [fserv]cappiz | pcj, you on it? |
| 19:36.53 | Kirkburn | Too short, a search string has to be more than three characters afaik |
| 19:37.11 | pcj | PCT should be handled correctly now |
| 19:37.20 | [fserv]cappiz | it's not even available in the terminology section. it's refered to it's un-short form |
| 19:37.42 | [fserv]cappiz | ok, gonna try it out... |
| 19:40.02 | [fserv]cappiz | i'm in the "game terms" section but now I cant turn to "next 200". whats going on? |
| 19:40.38 | Dotted | failwiki is fail |
| 19:41.04 | [fserv]cappiz | facts speak for themselves. me dumb :) |
| 19:42.20 | Ose | anyone else keep getting logged out of WW? |
| 19:42.31 | Gourra | I did yesterday |
| 19:42.41 | Gourra | all my troubles seems so far away |
| 19:43.31 | Ose | now I need a place to hide away... |
| 19:43.38 | Gourra | with lucy in the sky with diamonds |
| 19:45.44 | Ose | in a yellow submarine :P |
| 19:47.51 | Gourra | floawting on strawberry fields, forever |
| 19:47.55 | Gourra | floating* |
| 19:51.09 | [fserv]cappiz | Glossary of Terms: "http://wow.incgamers.comguides/glossary/index.php" doesnt work :( |
| 19:51.18 | Ose | well, it's getting better |
| 19:51.53 | [fserv]cappiz | "ose", isn't that said in japanese anime when they want some one to "gtfo"? |
| 19:52.07 | Ose | ... |
| 19:52.16 | [fserv]cappiz | ...or something.. |
| 19:52.21 | Gourra | urusei or something |
| 19:52.23 | Ose | "Getting better" is the name of a Beatles song... |
| 19:52.51 | [fserv]cappiz | might've become a short-slang for "urusai" |
| 19:52.58 | Ose | lol |
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| 19:53.46 | [fserv]cappiz | naw, i'm quite sure it's something else i'm thinking of. "usse!" is more appropriate for "urusai" |
| 19:54.03 | [fserv]cappiz | nevermind. must sleep |
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| 19:57.28 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: About the Bloggers: Elizabeth Harper - http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/02/05/about-the-bloggers-elizabeth-harper/ |
| 19:58.03 | DarkCurse | sorry im new to this chan so i really dont know the proper procedure for this but here goes: i have a 49 twink lock and was wondering if i could get some higher level (60+) to use http://www.wowwiki.com/Hoodoo_Hex to enchant my helm for me or can that person only enchant their own helm |
| 19:58.13 | DarkCurse | pretty much is http://www.wowwiki.com/Hoodoo_Hex similar to the runic spellthread or not? |
| 19:59.53 | Ose | maybe... but I think you'll have problems finding someone ABLE to do it... |
| 20:00.06 | Ose | IF it works... |
| 20:01.13 | DarkCurse | yeah |
| 20:01.19 | DarkCurse | im willing to pay a lot tho |
| 20:01.51 | DuTempete | I thought head enchants were self-only, like ring enchants? |
| 20:02.10 | sacarasc | you'd have to pay them to do Zul'Gurub which is rarely done anymore raid instance |
| 20:03.08 | DarkCurse | well i know that the pants enchan such as runic spellthread can be applied by say a 60 to the pants of a 49 which is what i did |
| 20:03.16 | DarkCurse | i was wondering if this helm ehcnant would be the same |
| 20:03.32 | DarkCurse | meaning that someone coudld do the quest and then apply it for me |
| 20:03.55 | DuTempete | oh, you mean the consumable augmentation? |
| 20:04.46 | DarkCurse | yeah |
| 20:04.46 | Dotted | DuTempete #newsspam |
| 20:04.46 | DuTempete | oh, I see |
| 20:04.46 | Dotted | because you are worth it |
| 20:04.58 | DuTempete | lol |
| 20:05.02 | Dotted | =P |
| 20:05.15 | Ose | !editcount Dotted |
| 20:05.15 | Foxbot | Dotted made 754 edits, of which 310 were minor and 350 were commented. |
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| 20:05.51 | DarkCurse | so whats the consensus? anyone know for sure? |
| 20:06.09 | Ose | no... |
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| 20:06.47 | DuTempete | Yeah, DarkCurse, the problem with what you want to do is that A. You're going to have to hire someone to run the instance, and B. You don't even know if it's possible to apply via trade window. |
| 20:09.05 | DarkCurse | yeah - im thinking i can get around A lol but it will be hard |
| 20:09.12 | DarkCurse | but i def wont even try if i cant do it |
| 20:09.22 | DarkCurse | i guess ill just ask around on various forums and see if its possible |
| 20:09.28 | DarkCurse | but thx guys for the hlep |
| 20:09.43 | DuTempete | np DarkCurse |
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| 20:14.57 | Bagginsww | gourra I'd say something in the standard size for those types of templates. |
| 20:15.18 | Bagginsww | anywho I'm off to my class, take care everyone |
| 20:21.31 | Ose | !editcount Baggins |
| 20:21.32 | Foxbot | Baggins made 34530 edits, of which 1150 were minor and 3633 were commented. |
| 20:21.36 | Ose | whoa! |
| 20:22.16 | Dotted | !editcount Varghedin |
| 20:22.16 | Foxbot | Varghedin made 51180 edits, of which 25007 were minor and 5706 were commented. |
| 20:22.25 | Ose | w00t! |
| 20:22.26 | Dotted | Ose |
| 20:22.30 | sacarasc | bot is quicker than it was ;o |
| 20:22.38 | Ose | mhm? |
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| 20:23.52 | Ose | Dotted: Ose what? |
| 20:24.11 | Dotted | just a highlight |
| 20:25.07 | pcj | !editcount pcj |
| 20:25.07 | Foxbot | pcj made 29746 edits, of which 27457 were minor and 15859 were commented. |
| 20:25.49 | sacarasc | !editcount sacarasc |
| 20:25.50 | Foxbot | sacarasc made 6 edits, of which 2 were minor and 3 were commented. |
| 20:26.01 | Ose | :P |
| 20:26.37 | Ose | !editcount Dotted |
| 20:26.38 | Foxbot | Dotted made 754 edits, of which 310 were minor and 350 were commented. |
| 20:26.58 | Ose | oh, I did that on just a while ago -.- |
| 20:27.25 | Ose | anyone we haven't done? XD |
| 20:28.46 | Ose | !editcount Kirkburn |
| 20:28.46 | Foxbot | Kirkburn made 22369 edits, of which 10517 were minor and 11695 were commented. |
| 20:31.08 | Ose | !editcount Mikaka |
| 20:31.31 | Foxbot | Mikaka made 4419 edits, of which 3101 were minor and 3321 were commented. |
| 20:33.10 | Ose | uhm... users nominated for "Crazy Guy-ship" need 6 votes to be crazified, right? |
| 20:38.30 | Kyrin | !editcount Niryk |
| 20:38.31 | Foxbot | Niryk made 15 edits, of which 6 were minor and 15 were commented. |
| 20:38.34 | Kyrin | orly? |
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| 20:41.12 | Ose | !editcount Beep |
| 20:41.15 | Ose | !editcount Beep2 |
| 20:41.45 | Foxbot | Beep made 3162 edits, of which 2254 were minor and 2112 were commented. |
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| 20:43.38 | foxlit | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Template_talk:Userbox |
| 20:43.44 | foxlit | do. not. understand |
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| 20:44.34 | foxlit | Why aren't the next tables obeying height: 100%? |
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| 20:54.44 | Ose | uhm... |
| 20:54.59 | Ose | what is it for? |
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| 20:55.53 | Ose | btw, you can use <noinclude>{{construction}}</noinclude> instead of writing that it is NYI |
| 20:56.11 | Ose | atleast that's what I do :P |
| 20:59.46 | Kirkburn | foxlit, because a table would be easier? |
| 21:00.05 | foxlit | It is a table, more or less |
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| 21:09.27 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Does anybody pay attention to World Defense? - http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/02/05/does-anybody-pay-attention-to-world-defense/ |
| 21:10.38 | pcj | whoa, there's a world defense channel? |
| 21:10.56 | pcj | I thought they deleted it after eliminating the honor system |
| 21:11.05 | pcj | *ranks |
| 21:12.11 | sacarasc | i was once in World Defense... too much spam |
| 21:13.34 | Lukian | I actually use the chat tabs in wow properly |
| 21:13.46 | Lukian | all messages in one window = fail |
| 21:14.27 | PhotoJim | chat tabs. that's something I didn't know you could do. |
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| 21:15.16 | sacarasc | Lukian: same here |
| 21:15.30 | pcj | hi skosiris |
| 21:15.38 | pcj | just curious what your opinion is on wowdb |
| 21:15.39 | Skosiris | hai |
| 21:15.40 | sacarasc | trade is in window 4, guild junk in 3, the rest is in the normal 2 though |
| 21:15.52 | PhotoJim | how do you do that? |
| 21:15.59 | PhotoJim | do you need a different ui to do it? |
| 21:16.46 | Lukian | sacarasc, 1: general spam, 2: combat log (I use swl) 3: group stuff (party/guild/raid/bg) (including say and yell and npc dialogs) 4: whispiers |
| 21:16.57 | Skosiris | pcj: I say it looks amazing. Like I designed it myself! :o |
| 21:17.26 | sacarasc | swl? |
| 21:17.42 | sacarasc | PhotoJim: nope, just right click on the tabs and make them |
| 21:17.50 | PhotoJim | that easy huh? cool. thanks. |
| 21:18.07 | Lukian | swstats filterable combat log :p |
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| 21:18.22 | Lukian | 2.4 might give me something better |
| 21:18.50 | Ose | !editcount Peregrine2976 |
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| 21:19.02 | sacarasc | sounds interesting |
| 21:19.48 | Lukian | sacarasc, yeah it's great, I can see if my tanking (read: gear) was at fail or the healer decided not to heal me for 6-11seconds :p |
| 21:19.55 | Ose | !editcount Bobson |
| 21:19.59 | Foxbot | Bobson made 640 edits, of which 79 were minor and 236 were commented. |
| 21:20.18 | sacarasc | heh |
| 21:20.42 | Ose | !editcount Illidan Rocks |
| 21:20.46 | Foxbot | Illidan Rocks made 598 edits, of which 1 were minor and 159 were commented. |
| 21:21.02 | Lukian | example: http://xs123.xs.to/xs123/08051/lotsacrit210.png |
| 21:21.30 | sacarasc | that's tiny |
| 21:22.15 | Lukian | That's the way I like it :D |
| 21:22.29 | Lukian | you can resize it for more lines |
| 21:22.53 | sacarasc | the writing is small, is what i mean, but i dare say it would be the right size for my ui stuff |
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| 21:26.41 | pcj | wb dutempete |
| 21:37.40 | DuTempete | ty pcj |
| 21:38.00 | Kirkburn | Woah at the size of this Main Page - yugioh.wikia.com |
| 21:40.57 | Ose | that's big... |
| 21:49.26 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: The Light and How to Swing It: Levels 41-50 - http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/02/05/the-light-and-how-to-swing-it-levels-41-50/ |
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| 21:50.49 | aliesky | Hello everybody |
| 21:52.07 | aliesky | exist a way to get the items database like wowhead? |
| 21:53.34 | Ose | what? |
| 21:53.49 | aliesky | for example |
| 21:54.12 | aliesky | wowhead have a database foe each item with the attributes and a picture, right? |
| 21:54.18 | Ose | yes... |
| 21:54.48 | aliesky | exist a way to do the same? |
| 21:55.27 | Lukian | code your own? |
| 21:55.41 | aliesky | hmmm |
| 21:55.46 | Ose | you want to make your own "WoWhead"? |
| 21:55.55 | aliesky | too hard for me, lol |
| 21:56.04 | aliesky | is just for know if exist a way ;) |
| 21:57.22 | aliesky | maybe a tool for extratc this info from the game |
| 21:57.59 | Kirkburn | Use the official database? |
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| 21:58.35 | Kirkburn | That outputs in a fairly nice format, so far as I know |
| 21:58.43 | aliesky | kirkburn: what do you mean? |
| 21:58.43 | aliesky | using the official website? |
| 21:58.54 | Kirkburn | foxlit, you might be able to explain better? |
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| 22:01.40 | aliesky | :-) |
| 22:01.44 | aliesky | :-( |
| 22:01.53 | Kirkburn | Give it a while :P |
| 22:02.04 | aliesky | thanks |
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| 22:16.13 | pcj | hay guies i need maek wowhead |
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| 22:26.50 | Kirkburn | Wunderbar! http://www.neatorama.com/2008/02/04/the-great-british-venn-diagram/ |
| 22:27.32 | Dotted | http://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot020508231018dc2.jpg <- just a bit awesome right? |
| 22:32.01 | Dotted | DuTempete its awesome right? |
| 22:32.29 | Kirkburn | What is? |
| 22:32.33 | Dotted | http://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot020508231018dc2.jpg <- just a bit awesome right? |
| 22:32.58 | Kirkburn | Whati is? |
| 22:33.09 | Dotted | http://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot020508231018dc2.jpg <- just a bit awesome right? |
| 22:33.20 | Kirkburn | What the hell is so awesome about that picture Dotted? |
| 22:33.25 | Dotted | http://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot020508231018dc2.jpg <- just a bit awesome right? |
| 22:33.43 | Kirkburn | *sigh* |
| 22:33.44 | Dotted | the UI you dimwitted british inhuman person |
| 22:34.05 | Kirkburn | Er, what about it? |
| 22:34.19 | Dotted | "just a bit awesome right?" |
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| 22:34.29 | PhotoJim | that UI looks pretty cool to my inexperienced eyes. |
| 22:34.35 | Bibi | Kirkburn you really suck at this |
| 22:34.40 | Bibi | Dotted : omg awesome ! |
| 22:34.45 | Kirkburn | It's nice, yes, but I already have a UI like that :P |
| 22:34.46 | Bibi | see, this is how you end the conversation |
| 22:34.52 | PhotoJim | Bibi: ftw!!! |
| 22:35.00 | DuTempete | what about it is awesome, Dotted ? |
| 22:35.10 | Dotted | PhotoJim sorry, french people cant be "ftw" |
| 22:35.11 | Kirkburn | I thought there was actually something interesting in the picture :( |
| 22:35.17 | Dotted | >_> |
| 22:35.22 | PhotoJim | Dotted: ahh, excusez-moi, alors. |
| 22:35.22 | Kirkburn | I was studying all the names, the actions, the background :/ |
| 22:35.41 | Dotted | canandian != french |
| 22:35.56 | DuTempete | Dotted, LAME! |
| 22:36.03 | Dotted | =O |
| 22:36.27 | PhotoJim | Dotted: I'm Canadian but not French-Canadian. |
| 22:36.42 | Dotted | all the better then |
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| 22:36.51 | DuTempete | Still, you're from Canadia... that makes you lamer than most. |
| 22:37.01 | Dotted | well |
| 22:37.06 | Dotted | Canada > US |
| 22:37.14 | Kirkburn | Eh, what did that just show "Kirkburn sets mode +s #wowwiki" for? |
| 22:37.26 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Oh Noes!!!1!1!1one: I've been hax0red! - http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/02/05/oh-noes-1-1-1one-ive-been-hax0red/ |
| 22:38.11 | Dotted | LULZinsider |
| 22:39.04 | foxlit | "especially if it involves S-labs, " strikes again |
| 22:39.08 | PhotoJim | DuTempete: It's not our economy that's tanking. ;) |
| 22:39.51 | Kirkburn | srsly, what on earth is +s? |
| 22:39.52 | DuTempete | Yes, Dotted Canadia > YOU |
| 22:40.36 | Dotted | *USA |
| 22:40.57 | DuTempete | Was that a pun, PhotoJim ? Wow, I'm impressed. You must be more advanced than the average canadian. Congratulations! |
| 22:40.59 | Dotted | Kirkburn secret, hides channel from /whois |
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| 22:41.45 | Grey-man | it's Canada...not Canadia...please look it up |
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| 22:42.00 | pcj | kirkburn, mode s is secret |
| 22:42.01 | Dotted | lolwut |
| 22:42.16 | PhotoJim | DuTempete: advanced enough to have my own domain name. what can I say? |
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| 22:45.23 | DuTempete | PhotoJim, a monkey could his own domain name. Even a Canadian one. |
| 22:46.24 | dcramer_ | the curse site has always been a notorious slug of a site. slow as hell due to bad coding and a sloppy DB and uncompressed graphics. tis gotten a bit better but it loads like crap compared to wowhead. and simply copying wowhead is pure fail for originality. |
| 22:46.26 | dcramer_ | lol i like this guy |
| 22:46.35 | PhotoJim | DuTempete: monkeys have trouble with prairie winters though. |
| 22:46.41 | dcramer_ | we have like the most complex architecture and optimized frontend out of any wow site -.- |
| 22:47.00 | DuTempete | That would be why we don't have many of them here in the US. |
| 22:47.27 | PhotoJim | and the ones we have lack citizenship. |
| 22:47.55 | DuTempete | Well... monkies do tend to not have degrees... |
| 22:48.42 | PhotoJim | Except the handful that sneak through the million monkeys - million typewriters (word processors?) minefield. |
| 22:49.05 | DuTempete | Really, though, you ought to declare monkey amnesty. The poor things are getting old and should really have the benefit of NHS. |
| 22:49.46 | DuTempete | Isn't that one of the "special" tests you guys give the French? |
| 22:50.32 | PhotoJim | no, no. NHS is in the UK. Our health care system is provided at the provincial level, not federally. |
| 22:50.50 | PhotoJim | We test the French by making them assemble Ikea furniture. |
| 22:50.59 | DuTempete | Well, it's the same thing, just at a more local level. :P |
| 22:51.30 | PhotoJim | kind of like a Honda is like a Ford, only it has a better warranty? |
| 22:51.37 | PhotoJim | :) |
| 22:51.56 | DuTempete | Crap. No wonder there are so many French. What do you expect leaving such responsiblity in the hands of the Swedish? |
| 22:52.03 | DuTempete | Yup! |
| 22:52.38 | PhotoJim | Well, if you think we're socialist, you really need to meet the Stockholmers. |
| 22:54.28 | DuTempete | Well, it's as they say; birds of a feather flock together. Minus language issues, sex appeal, and the comparitive number of US draft refugees, I think Canadians could easily be mistaken for Swedes. |
| 22:55.04 | DuTempete | (That being the Canadian *lack* of sex appeal, of course) |
| 22:55.07 | PhotoJim | That, and our general disdain for pickled herring. |
| 22:55.21 | DuTempete | What's wrong with pickled herring?! |
| 22:55.27 | PhotoJim | It's pickled. And it's herring. |
| 22:55.31 | Kirkburn | Go blond svedish peeple! |
| 22:55.32 | PhotoJim | Other than that, it's delicious. |
| 22:56.00 | PhotoJim | and I don't find Canadians lacking in the sex appeal department. There are enough hot Canadian women that I wouldn't need a trip to Sweden to wear myself out. |
| 22:56.49 | DuTempete | ...without resorting to violence... |
| 22:57.00 | PhotoJim | You guys can have the Swedish blondes. I'll take the cute Irish redheads. |
| 22:57.06 | DuTempete | no wai |
| 22:57.27 | DuTempete | well... you can have the redheads, if I can have the black headed Irish. |
| 22:57.58 | PhotoJim | It's a deal, as long as I can inspect them and be sure they actually have black hair. |
| 22:58.23 | DuTempete | No tainting the goods, you damned Canadian pervert. |
| 22:58.34 | DuTempete | You'll do no such checking. |
| 22:58.42 | PhotoJim | everything is fresh and clean here, like the glaciers that litter the landscape. |
| 22:58.49 | PhotoJim | commute time. bbl. :) |
| 22:59.02 | DuTempete | ciao |
| 23:01.26 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: New faces at WoW Insider - http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/02/05/new-faces-at-wow-insider/ |
| 23:03.24 | Kirkburn | Wenn ist das Nunstuck git und Slotermeyer? |
| 23:03.52 | Kirkburn | Ja! ... Beiherhund das Oder die Flipperwaldt! |
| 23:04.10 | Kirkburn | ahahahahahahahahahAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA |
| 23:04.15 | laindir | mmmm... monty python... om nom |
| 23:09.05 | Kirkburn | I missed a word ... *Flipperwald gersput! |
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| 23:18.29 | pcj | for shame |
| 23:20.30 | pcj | + |
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| 23:28.24 | foxlit | http://www.wowwiki.com/Template_talk:Userbox |
| 23:31.31 | pcj | foxlit the right example doesn't have a border on monobook |
| 23:31.46 | foxlit | Yeah, I expect the left example looks crap as well |
| 23:31.55 | pcj | Yeah |
| 23:32.50 | foxlit | Well, hm, I can fix the border width/style in common, but there needs to be a bit in monobook to handle colors |
| 23:33.01 | pcj | Dun dun dun! |
| 23:33.26 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Build Shop: Paladin 40/0/21 - http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/02/05/build-shop-paladin-40-0-21/ |
| 23:33.37 | pcj | lol @ holy-ret |
| 23:38.27 | foxlit | okay, done |
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| 23:43.15 | Taishi | Hi everyone. Can someone please tell me where to get the patch/s for version 1.9.4 to get it upto 2.3.3 please? |
| 23:46.35 | foxlit | connect using the client, it'll update automatically? |
| 23:47.32 | Kaso | http://wowwiki.com/Patch_Mirrors you've gonna need to download None -> 2.0.0 (~3200 Mb), then 2.x -> 2.3.0 Complete Patch (~690-870 Mb) |
| 23:48.12 | Taishi | Oh, so just getting 2.0.0 would do the trick? I don't need 1.10 first? |
| 23:48.54 | Kaso | via the blizztorrent downloader you can get an incremental patch upto current, however if you want a http mirror you're gonna have to start fresh with a 2.0.0 full client |
| 23:49.28 | Kaso | there isnt pre 2.0.0 patches easily available on mirrors |
| 23:49.43 | Taishi | Ok now ya not exactly making sense |
| 23:49.57 | Taishi | I wanna know what I need to get my 1.9.4 client upto 2.3.3 |
| 23:50.22 | Kaso | either a) use the in-game updater |
| 23:50.29 | Taishi | And I am not gonna download the enter client since its faster downloading patches for the currently installed one off my CDs |
| 23:50.56 | Taishi | *entire not enter |
| 23:51.02 | Kaso | b) get the full client, cos you wont find a http mirror for pre-2.0.0 patches |
| 23:51.09 | pcj | if you have TBC you can just install that since that's 2.0 |
| 23:51.29 | Taishi | I don't have it |
| 23:51.35 | pcj | well have fun patching |
| 23:51.37 | Taishi | I'm downloading it now though |
| 23:51.46 | pcj | download that first then patch to 2.3 |
| 23:52.03 | Taishi | So if I simply install Burning Crusade over my current client it'll jump to 2.0? |
| 23:52.09 | pcj | Yes |
| 23:52.13 | Kyrin | yep |
| 23:52.16 | Taishi | Sweet, thanks pcj |
| 23:52.22 | Taishi | Ok I'll do that then :) |
| 23:52.26 | Kyrin | and you can DL TBC from blizz |
| 23:52.33 | Taishi | I'm currentlty downloading BC so thats np |
| 23:52.44 | Taishi | Yeah, thats where I'm getting it from, heh |
| 23:53.02 | Taishi | Which is faster than the original client, 2 hours less time |
| 23:53.15 | Taishi | I could download the patch needed while I wait |
| 23:53.49 | Taishi | I didn't see the point in waiting 6 hours for a client when I can just patch the one of the CDs basically |
| 23:54.13 | Taishi | *off |
| 23:54.32 | Kyrin | the whole process though is why I keep clean install of WoW updated, and archived on a server for people in my group to download |
| 23:54.38 | Taishi | Ohh |
| 23:54.40 | Kyrin | they just download, unpack, and ready to go |
| 23:54.41 | Taishi | "1.12.x ? 2.0.1 (~680 Mb)" |
| 23:54.53 | Taishi | Oh wait thats 1.12 |
| 23:54.58 | Taishi | Oh well lol |
| 23:55.07 | Taishi | So after installing BC which patch should I aim for? |
| 23:55.16 | Kaso | 2.x -> 2.3.0 |
| 23:55.21 | Taishi | k |
| 23:55.50 | Taishi | Kyrin: yeah, I kept a whole one like that once but I've lost it sadly |
| 23:55.55 | Taishi | Damn HDD burnt out :( |
| 23:56.27 | Kyrin | ah |
| 23:59.05 | Taishi | Well, thanks a bunch, see ya guys :D |
| 23:59.10 | Kyrin | np, cya |
