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| 00:39.54 | Traveler4 | wow-2.0.0-enus-installer |
| 00:40.03 | Traveler4 | Do I have to download Wow + BC or just bc? |
| 00:43.11 | Zeal | install wow, install bc, update and you're already at 2.0.0 |
| 00:43.20 | Zeal | *-update. |
| 00:43.26 | Zeal | update after that :p |
| 00:44.09 | Traveler4 | I just quit RFO, it's interesting game but... the PT system is like something crafted specially for hardcore solo players |
| 00:44.52 | Zeal | well wow mostly caters for hardcore groups of players |
| 00:46.50 | Traveler4 | the PT in rfo kinda forces players to play solo. But starre at a monster, waiting for shield to block attacks to gain shield skill points is total retarded |
| 00:47.27 | Zeal | i have no idea what RFO or PT is, sorry :p |
| 00:48.06 | Traveler4 | rf online |
| 00:48.47 | Traveler4 | in rfo you have skills, spells and masteries, that lvl up the more you use each one, but that is worse than any grind |
| 00:49.10 | Traveler4 | keep using and repeating actions so much |
| 00:49.20 | Traveler4 | till bored to uinstall it |
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| 00:50.32 | Zeal | well wow doesn't exactly have a dynamic play style when you're in end-game, just rinse and repeat really. but there's a decent array and variations of what those actions are. |
| 00:56.03 | Traveler4 | err |
| 00:56.03 | Traveler4 | 3GB WOW + 2GB BC??? |
| 00:56.03 | Traveler4 | 5GB?!?! |
| 00:56.03 | Zeal | sounds about right. |
| 00:56.03 | Traveler4 | thats huge |
| 00:56.03 | Traveler4 | not even L2 is that big |
| 00:56.03 | Zeal | wow's huge :p |
| 00:56.04 | Zeal | including patches, addons, saved variables etc, my wow folder is 7.97GB |
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| 00:56.04 | Traveler4 | 0 seeders |
| 00:56.04 | Traveler4 | but 70 peers |
| 00:56.05 | Traveler4 | 10 hours |
| 00:56.05 | Traveler4 | !!! |
| 00:56.06 | Zeal | you have purchased the game right? |
| 00:56.06 | Traveler4 | no |
| 00:56.06 | Zeal | then you can't play. |
| 00:56.40 | Traveler4 | wow emu :P |
| 00:57.16 | Zeal | yeah.. don't allow that in here |
| 00:57.18 | Traveler4 | and/or trial ;P |
| 00:57.43 | Zeal | and a private server is nothing like wow tbh. |
| 00:58.37 | Traveler4 | private servers with like 10 players feel like bedroom servers :S |
| 00:59.24 | Zeal | https://signup.worldofwarcraft.com/trial/10dayfreetrial.htm |
| 00:59.58 | Traveler4 | what is different? skills? items? drops? |
| 01:00.42 | Traveler4 | some call theirselves "blizzlike" |
| 01:00.56 | Zeal | my pont was an emulated server can never match an offical one, because they have no access or knowledge of the servers themselves, just what the client knows and tells it, and what they expect to happen based on official servers. |
| 01:01.06 | Zeal | difference in what? |
| 01:01.14 | Zeal | depends what you're comparing it to :p |
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| 01:02.28 | Traveler4 | did the source leak? Because unlike l2, which had had the source leaked and then a java emulator made, wow privated servers spreaded so fast |
| 01:03.00 | Zeal | no leak afaik |
| 01:03.05 | Zeal | all backwards engineered. |
| 01:03.24 | Traveler4 | humm... they guys did that pretty fast |
| 01:04.02 | Zeal | little under a year after a release any actually made an impact. |
| 01:04.13 | Zeal | *-a |
| 01:10.02 | osmodiar | i saw a private server once... everything was like 10% bigger |
| 01:10.11 | Traveler4 | are they sueing american servers? Seems that most servers are in NL, RO, UK or Ukr |
| 01:10.12 | Zeal | lol |
| 01:10.23 | Traveler4 | 10% bigger? |
| 01:10.29 | Traveler4 | what was bigger? |
| 01:10.36 | osmodiar | the world, distances, scenery, etc |
| 01:10.49 | Zeal | they'll go after anyone/anything running a private server they think is worthwhile. |
| 01:11.08 | Traveler4 | oh... lots of ppl told me that a private server with low population is not worth it, because, what you said |
| 01:11.39 | Zeal | illegal either way. |
| 01:21.33 | Traveler4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:22.55 | Zeal | no idea, not much of an MMO fan myself. |
| 01:23.11 | Zeal | they all have a grind afaik |
| 01:24.10 | Traveler4 | tried a game that is called "lesser version of wow" Talisman online, but the camera control is awful. And the respawns of quest bosses was configured to over 5 minutes, I just quit |
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| 01:24.35 | Zeal | crap.. Heath Ledger died today. |
| 01:27.32 | Sandwichman2448 | ??! |
| 01:27.35 | Sandwichman2448 | Shame. |
| 01:30.03 | Zeal | indeed |
| 01:30.31 | Zeal | accidental overdose of sleeping pills |
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| 01:32.20 | Sandwichman2449 | What did I miss? |
| 01:33.10 | Zeal | <+Zeal> accidental overdose of sleeping pill |
| 01:33.19 | Zeal | *pills |
| 01:33.38 | Sandwichman2449 | Zeal, how is that category thing coming along? I am sorry about my meddling yesterday. |
| 01:34.05 | Zeal | no worries |
| 01:34.37 | Zeal | [[Category:Books]] has come along really nicely |
| 01:34.54 | Sandwichman2449 | I did, however, write a song about how I can take a hint. |
| 01:34.59 | Zeal | still working on the rest. sorting out item cats atm. |
| 01:35.15 | Zeal | "can"? :p |
| 01:35.36 | Zeal | the only thing i reverted of yours was the expansion ideas. rest was all good. |
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| 01:37.39 | FullDolphinX | What? |
| 01:37.56 | FullDolphinX | Something is all good. |
| 01:38.28 | Zeal | huh? |
| 01:38.38 | FullDolphinX | I was saying that I made that user idea category before and no one wanted it to be on their page. |
| 01:38.45 | FullDolphinX | I got DC'd |
| 01:38.54 | Zeal | oh, it's you :p |
| 01:38.59 | FullDolphinX | Want the Village pump link? |
| 01:39.20 | FullDolphinX | They whined Gryph ended it. |
| 01:39.42 | FullDolphinX | With a comma in there. |
| 01:39.44 | Gryphen | hmm? |
| 01:40.13 | Zeal | erm, well they're all listing themselves on a single page atm anyways, and categorising their pages if soemthing they'll have to learn to do. It'll still be lsited under fan-fictions, it just allows people to seperate them out for easier navigation to them if that's what they're after. |
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| 01:40.28 | Zeal | *is something |
| 01:40.34 | FullDolphinX | It is all under U for user |
| 01:40.45 | FullDolphinX | Need to add |titles |
| 01:42.10 | Zeal | well as i'm going, i'm working on some stop-gap categorizing templates. ideally their functionality should be included in summary templates (infoboxes, {{tooltip}}). atm i've only really finished books thanks to {{cat/book}} |
| 01:44.26 | FullDolphinX | You did it through the template? |
| 01:45.21 | Zeal | the categorising of book articles, yes. which'll make future changes to the cat structure alot easier too. |
| 01:45.55 | Zeal | the structure of the cats is manual ofc, but thats the easy part of all this, can be changed rapidly and quickly. |
| 01:46.01 | Zeal | *and easily :P |
| 01:49.10 | Zeal | so yeah, once i've fixed the item cat structure, it's template time. But it's a large scale, so it'll require bot implementation of the template, and hopefully of the fill it out based on tooltip info, but if not, proving the template with the info will have to be a manual job. |
| 01:49.34 | Zeal | *providing |
| 01:50.07 | Zeal | but no worse than how inconsistant the item catorizing has been and still is. |
| 01:50.22 | Sandwichman2448 | I found my old attempt. |
| 01:51.41 | Sandwichman2448 | Why does it need World of Warcraft in front of a lot? |
| 01:51.54 | Sandwichman2448 | hat is a given, no? |
| 01:51.56 | Sandwichman2448 | T |
| 01:55.00 | Zeal | not a given, when i'm finally making it so other game and lore items are categorised and that there's a parent category so that items across the entire universe of warcraft can be browsed. |
| 01:55.54 | Zeal | appending items to the end is simply to ensure that it's understood by all that the cats contain items without knowing the wow terminology. |
| 01:56.21 | Sandwichman2448 | oh. |
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| 01:57.15 | Zeal | was going to use WoW, but sky said not to used abbreviations |
| 01:57.19 | Zeal | and speak of the devil :P |
| 01:57.31 | Sky2042_afk | good job zeal, you cleared [[Arrow]] |
| 01:57.41 | Zeal | hm? |
| 01:58.05 | Sandwichman2448 | [[Arrow]] |
| 01:58.11 | Sky2042_afk | lol! |
| 01:58.11 | Sandwichman2448 | No bot? |
| 01:58.31 | Zeal | lol |
| 01:58.34 | Sandwichman2448 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Arrow |
| 01:58.44 | Zeal | must have accidentily clicked an article and not a cat. |
| 01:58.57 | Sky2042_afk | you did it with bullet too |
| 01:59.21 | Sky2042_afk | and why is it "wow shoulder armor items" as opposed to "wow shoulder armor"? |
| 01:59.37 | Sky2042_afk | one leaves little room for ambiguity, but the thought crossed my mind |
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| 02:01.22 | FullDolphinX | Dc'd |
| 02:01.49 | Zeal | made it "shoulder items", so as not to require yet another cat for browsing outside the armor cat for shoulder items.. say like wow common items->wow common shoulder armor items + wow common shoulder items |
| 02:02.23 | Zeal | armor was really unessecary basically. |
| 02:02.36 | Zeal | as the ct's gunna be in plenty of others unrelated to armor |
| 02:02.39 | Zeal | *cat's |
| 02:02.58 | Sky2042 | Armor is a bit unnecessary. |
| 02:03.13 | Sky2042 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:03.24 | Zeal | :S |
| 02:04.04 | Sky2042 | and, question |
| 02:05.20 | Zeal | plus items is basically an actually a technical designation for something in wow. |
| 02:05.37 | Zeal | *an actual technical |
| 02:07.15 | Sky2042 | eh. i'd prolly go with either items or armor, but not both. probably item. either way, a request: would you mind incorporating what we (me, montag, a couple others) discussed an eternity ago at http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Montag/Master_Plan#Item_Categories ? |
| 02:07.27 | Sky2042 | and literally, it was just before you left. |
| 02:07.47 | Zeal | let me take a look, but hopefully yes :p |
| 02:08.27 | Sky2042 | there are a couple links from that section which show the relevant issues. |
| 02:08.34 | Sky2042 | but it was mainly the idea |
| 02:08.39 | Zeal | lol@ your comments |
| 02:08.59 | Sky2042 | which? :P |
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| 02:09.22 | Zeal | about me |
| 02:09.25 | Sky2042 | alternatively, we can just rig tooltip to autocat, but I think that would probably kill tooltip |
| 02:09.35 | Sky2042 | oh, yeah |
| 02:09.36 | Sky2042 | :P |
| 02:09.38 | Zeal | well that's actually what i want to do |
| 02:09.55 | Zeal | make {{tooltip}} cat based on the info it's given. otherwise it's a good deal of info to provide yet again |
| 02:10.01 | Zeal | bt,w see {{cat/book}} |
| 02:10.03 | Zeal | *btw |
| 02:10.28 | Sky2042 | true. but don't you think we might kill tooltip doing that? any edit has to refresh both the pages that transclude it, as well as the hundreds of categories we'd end up with also |
| 02:10.30 | Sky2042 | xD |
| 02:10.49 | Sky2042 | we'd end up with a job queue of well over 60 or 70k for one edit. |
| 02:10.59 | Sky2042 | it's at 52k as it is, or so. |
| 02:12.02 | Zeal | and yeah, i agree with you on the your comments there. hadn't thought about levels yet, but ofc. i'm just working at the top levels atm, and get deeper and mroe sepcific as i go, and that can be added upon if/when needed in places as you said. |
| 02:12.04 | Sky2042 | and really, we have to stop the use of item. that could very well kill the wiki also |
| 02:12.15 | Sky2042 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:12.24 | Sky2042 | Dotted: where'd your suckass bot go? :P |
| 02:12.51 | Dotted | dunno, net down or something |
| 02:12.53 | Dotted | got nop clue |
| 02:12.57 | Sky2042 | Ouch |
| 02:13.15 | Sky2042 | Zeal: It would prolly be best during the redoing of the categories. |
| 02:13.18 | Dotted | cant even ping it |
| 02:13.18 | Zeal | well i've already given my verdict on {{item}}, and basically the related changes to tooltip. removing all that would help, and cat'ing would take a while, be it saves a crap ton of time and effort to change cats again at that point. |
| 02:13.36 | Sky2042 | (given verdict on item?) |
| 02:13.47 | Zeal | yeah, as you said, it's going to break the wiki. |
| 02:14.20 | Sky2042 | i've come to agree with you about transcluding tooltip everywhere. that's just bad practice :/ |
| 02:14.35 | Sky2042 | even though I didn't when the original battle was going on :P |
| 02:14.37 | Zeal | but {{item}} is merely the end problem, root cause is {{tooltip}}'s changes that allow it. |
| 02:15.01 | Zeal | great idea, but MW's transclusion system can't handle it. |
| 02:15.12 | Sky2042 | uh huh |
| 02:15.49 | Sky2042 | we could change it so loot (not item) calls the wowhead tooltips! :D |
| 02:15.59 | Zeal | but yeah, infboxes for all article types could do the categorizing once done. |
| 02:17.14 | Zeal | currently up to pcj ;p i like having it local tbh, but even then, he's forced to load up a whole page jsut for the tooltip. hopefully the caching changes he's working on will alleviate that added load though. |
| 02:18.01 | Zeal | i love the "Foods" cat. :p |
| 02:19.00 | Sky2042 | pretty sure vargh did that. |
| 02:19.24 | Zeal | hehe |
| 02:19.44 | Sky2042 | hey, vargh is a catting machine! |
| 02:20.21 | Zeal | remind me. shields are considered armor or weapons in wow? |
| 02:21.06 | Sky2042 | uh... they can be used as both? |
| 02:21.08 | Sky2042 | xD |
| 02:21.21 | Sky2042 | just go with "shield" items, or "offhand" items |
| 02:21.37 | Sky2042 | nah, not offhand |
| 02:22.00 | Zeal | well shield cat would appear in both armor and offhand. |
| 02:22.09 | Sky2042 | aye |
| 02:22.19 | Sky2042 | go with wow shield items i think. |
| 02:22.23 | Zeal | jsut diff ways of access it :P |
| 02:22.31 | Zeal | *accessing it |
| 02:22.56 | Zeal | will be doing both. jsut want to double check what it's considered in wow. think in AH for example, it's under armor |
| 02:23.10 | Sky2042 | and I still think you should drop "items" :/ |
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| 02:25.26 | Zeal | hehe |
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| 02:27.17 | Sky2042 | hmm |
| 02:28.32 | neil12 | did any one see wow hit 10m |
| 02:29.01 | Sky2042 | on the front page of wowwiki somewhere... |
| 02:29.05 | Sky2042 | >.> |
| 02:30.04 | Sky2042 | let's see. is there anyway to view recentchanges without viewing zeal's changes?... |
| 02:31.57 | Zeal | you have patroler rights, so sure. view the generated one. |
| 02:32.13 | Zeal | my watchlist hurts :( |
| 02:32.20 | Sky2042 | so dump everything! |
| 02:32.22 | Sky2042 | =] |
| 02:32.41 | Zeal | keeps me busy, i only use it, not the rC |
| 02:32.45 | Zeal | *RC |
| 02:33.18 | Sky2042 | kd3 made an rc based on a script off wp, but it's basically just a live version of the bot genned list. |
| 02:33.34 | kd3 | [[WW:AVT]] |
| 02:33.41 | Sky2042 | owned! |
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| 02:35.29 | da | Horlder anwesend? |
| 02:35.39 | da | Trolle hier? |
| 02:35.52 | da | alle am pennen ^^ inzucht mit den allys |
| 02:35.58 | osmodiar | indeed |
| 02:36.02 | da | MADMORTEM NEWS closed! |
| 02:36.08 | Sky2042 | can someone tell me how long i blocked Lawlurbad? |
| 02:36.09 | da | KAISER GEBANNT! |
| 02:36.12 | Sky2042 | kd3? |
| 02:36.28 | da | PROBLEMS WITH KAISER ON MADMORTEM |
| 02:36.30 | Zeal | it was either 2 weeks or infinity |
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| 02:36.46 | da | BANNs ON MAdMORTEM |
| 02:36.53 | da | I NEED THE HORDE |
| 02:36.55 | Sky2042 | da?... |
| 02:37.00 | Zeal | da, try some eng.. oh |
| 02:37.00 | Sandwichman2448 | What did I miss? |
| 02:37.00 | da | BERLIN |
| 02:37.12 | kd3 | 2008-01-22T21:34:37, Sky2042 (Talk | contribs | block) blocked Lawlurbad (contribs) (expires 2008-07-22T21:34:37, account creation blocked) (Intimidating behaviour/harassment: soru!) (Unblock) |
| 02:37.17 | da | WOW! |
| 02:37.22 | da | IGNORE THE KAISER! |
| 02:37.26 | Sky2042 | six months. thought so. |
| 02:37.28 | Sandwichman2448 | Oh, those guys. |
| 02:37.29 | da | IGNOTE THE KING! |
| 02:37.36 | Sandwichman2448 | Ignote? |
| 02:37.38 | da | ICOGNITO? |
| 02:37.44 | da | parli italiano!? |
| 02:37.45 | kd3 | da: make sense or I'm going to remove you from the channel |
| 02:37.51 | da | are you german? |
| 02:37.52 | Zeal | is that a poor way of saying ignore the op? :P |
| 02:37.54 | da | you are a nazi! |
| 02:38.02 | da | because you are listen MADMORTEM RADIO |
| 02:38.11 | da | the only radio where the underground lives !!! |
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| 02:38.23 | Sky2042 | rar |
| 02:38.23 | Sandwichman2448 | Ashera and Hoochfly are having an edit war, I think. |
| 02:38.36 | osmodiar | interesting little bugger, he was |
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| 02:39.14 | Longsmile | sorry 4 spam |
| 02:39.21 | Sandwichman2448 | I'm scared. |
| 02:39.28 | Longsmile | bin ein wow spieler aus südtirol |
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| 02:39.36 | Longsmile | und organisiere in berlin ein treffen |
| 02:39.37 | Sky2042 | heya Kirkburn. |
| 02:39.45 | Kirkburn | heyo |
| 02:39.50 | Adys | HELOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO KIRKBURUUURURURUNNN |
| 02:39.54 | Longsmile | sogar einige gms wollen kommen, sido und rtl2 |
| 02:39.59 | Kirkburn | How goes? |
| 02:40.05 | Longsmile | leider haben wir nur 50 plätze zu vergeben! |
| 02:40.05 | Sky2042 | and zeal, i would seriously suggest renaming the cats without the "items" part, but again, just me. |
| 02:40.06 | Adys | Goes fine |
| 02:40.07 | Sky2042 | good! |
| 02:40.15 | Longsmile | bevorzugt RL RPG Spieler! |
| 02:40.21 | Longsmile | also verkleidet mit text usw ^^ |
| 02:40.31 | Adys | Who's this kid talking to? |
| 02:40.45 | neil12 | what? |
| 02:40.47 | Longsmile | werde da meine Accountdaten an GM geben aufgrund von GOLDKAUF und verstoss jeglicher Blizzardregeln ^^ und wenn sie mir nen neuen geben fang ich wieder an zu zocken ^^ |
| 02:40.50 | Sandwichman2448 | A can of byproducts. |
| 02:40.51 | Adys | this one |
| 02:41.01 | Longsmile | vielleicht auch als GM ^^ |
| 02:41.03 | neil12 | who longdmile |
| 02:41.07 | Sky2042 | Longsmile: Please, make an attempt to speak english in this channel. =) |
| 02:41.15 | Longsmile | Longsmile=Hauimir Kaiser on MADMORTEM!!! |
| 02:41.15 | kd3 | long, please speak english. I don't think anyone knows german in here |
| 02:41.19 | Adys | Sky you got much to learn |
| 02:41.22 | Longsmile | Im italian sorry!!! |
| 02:41.23 | Zeal | i still think that's too ambiguous without, and it's a technical designation realting to what the cat contains so is the most important part of the cat's name. |
| 02:41.34 | *** kick/#wowwiki [Longsmile!n=Adys@unaffiliated/adys] by Adys (English chan, English talking.) |
| 02:41.39 | Kirkburn | I wouldn't worry too much about category name length |
| 02:41.42 | Kirkburn | Adys, hoi |
| 02:41.43 | Adys | kd3 too |
| 02:41.48 | Sky2042 | Adys: nah, boots aren't really teh needed. |
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| 02:41.54 | da | wath are the problem? |
| 02:41.59 | Sky2042 | please. speak. english. |
| 02:42.00 | da | why you kick me? |
| 02:42.02 | Sky2042 | or at least attempt to. |
| 02:42.11 | da | i have problems with the englis language |
| 02:42.15 | Zeal | Kirkburn, no idea if you've been following, though considering you've not said anything or had a go at me, i'm going to assume not ;) |
| 02:42.15 | da | english |
| 02:42.18 | TecnoBrat | you are doing fine |
| 02:42.20 | Adys | Then Im sorry but you dont have much to do here |
| 02:42.22 | Kirkburn | Zesl, check VP |
| 02:42.24 | Kirkburn | Zeal, |
| 02:42.26 | TecnoBrat | just keep talking like that |
| 02:42.26 | da | can i talk in my motherlanguage? |
| 02:42.33 | TecnoBrat | lol |
| 02:42.35 | da | or in italian? |
| 02:42.37 | Adys | Im afraid not, this is an english chan. |
| 02:42.39 | da | where im live? |
| 02:42.42 | TecnoBrat | you obviously no english well enough |
| 02:42.43 | Sky2042 | kirkburn, is there a wikia-it ? |
| 02:42.46 | TecnoBrat | know* |
| 02:42.46 | Kirkburn | From the channel info: "English is the language of the channel, but many nationalities are present, so you may still be able to get help if English isn't your best language :)" |
| 02:42.53 | da | have you a italian channel? 4 our noobs in italy? |
| 02:43.04 | Adys | good question.. |
| 02:43.04 | da | a german channel 4 the kids? |
| 02:43.18 | da | a hungary channel 4 my führer emperor? |
| 02:43.20 | Sky2042_afk | i might contest it later either way... |
| 02:43.23 | da | he play on a german server |
| 02:43.29 | da | and nobody talk in english with him |
| 02:43.30 | Zeal | oh wow, support :p hehe |
| 02:43.38 | Sky2042_afk | aye |
| 02:43.40 | Zeal | and i mean "wow" not WoW |
| 02:43.41 | da | all german=nazi? |
| 02:43.42 | Kirkburn | Category name length doesn't bother me |
| 02:43.42 | Zeal | :p |
| 02:43.44 | Sky2042_afk | I don't mind the "WoW parts |
| 02:43.44 | da | no! |
| 02:43.58 | da | Italian is the winner on the world cup ^^ |
| 02:44.08 | da | but germany was a great location with many love |
| 02:44.11 | da | i love berlin |
| 02:44.11 | TecnoBrat | da: thanks for sharing |
| 02:44.14 | da | and the german woman |
| 02:44.14 | Sky2042_afk | lol Zeal |
| 02:44.19 | Sky2042_afk | he just said "Use WoW" |
| 02:44.20 | Sandwichman2448 | Good for them. |
| 02:44.20 | Sky2042_afk | xD |
| 02:44.30 | da | but im italian |
| 02:44.32 | Kirkburn | da, we have nothing against other languages, but this is primarily an English channel, so please respect that :) |
| 02:44.34 | neil12 | so |
| 02:44.35 | da | im live in southtyrol |
| 02:44.41 | da | you know southtyrol? |
| 02:44.43 | Sky2042_afk | anyway, will bbl. have simpsons move to watch |
| 02:44.43 | Kirkburn | da, checked out the WoW wikis in your languages? |
| 02:44.48 | da | the problems in southtyrol? |
| 02:44.51 | Kirkburn | Sky2042_afk, see ya |
| 02:45.05 | da | have you interest in problems of other players RL? |
| 02:45.09 | da | or only your loot? |
| 02:45.12 | da | your epic? |
| 02:45.13 | Sky2042_afk | (and i was looking forward to talking :( ) |
| 02:45.16 | da | your legendary! |
| 02:45.17 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 02:45.19 | da | KICK ME PLS! |
| 02:45.33 | Kirkburn | Or you could shush |
| 02:45.36 | da | because i live my life! |
| 02:45.45 | da | and i play wow on madmortem! |
| 02:45.51 | Kirkburn | Changing category names to be WoW specific is an excellent idea |
| 02:46.12 | da | hate me pls!! the german communty all alliance and madmortem hate me!! IM THE KING OF THE KINGS in germany!!! |
| 02:46.13 | Kirkburn | As we currently are, we make it very difficult to add non-WoW content, and we should be able to |
| 02:46.13 | Sky2042_afk | it is. |
| 02:46.21 | da | Because the italy wins the worldcup ^^ you know ^^ |
| 02:46.21 | Sky2042_afk | have you see his cat-tree kirkburn |
| 02:46.22 | Sky2042_afk | ? |
| 02:46.26 | da | im casanova ^^ |
| 02:46.28 | Kirkburn | Briefly |
| 02:46.41 | da | italian are the better lovers say german woman ^^ |
| 02:46.46 | Adys | last warning da, calm down and you're welcome here - otherwise you're out |
| 02:46.50 | da | have you some problem in wow with raccism? |
| 02:46.59 | Zeal | seeing as the chan's got more actively now. Heath Ledger died today. accidental sleeping pill overdose. |
| 02:47.01 | da | i every day! |
| 02:47.05 | Zeal | *active |
| 02:47.06 | da | because im italian! |
| 02:47.22 | osmodiar | "accidental" |
| 02:47.23 | Kirkburn | Zeal, yeah, crazy stuff |
| 02:47.29 | da | have you a problem because you love mans!? my server hate me because im gay! |
| 02:47.47 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+b *!*i=da@*.211-62-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] by kd3 |
| 02:47.47 | *** kick/#wowwiki [da!n=kd3@host-12-173-142-252.nctv.com] by kd3 (kd3) |
| 02:48.03 | Adys | you learn quicky kd3 |
| 02:48.06 | TecnoBrat | haha I love the sounds on my irc |
| 02:48.08 | TecnoBrat | BOOM |
| 02:48.13 | Adys | lol tecno |
| 02:48.38 | TecnoBrat | I was alt-tabbed elsewhere, and I hear BOOM, had to come see what was going on :P |
| 02:49.01 | Adys | Going back to my boredom, enjoy |
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| 02:49.52 | Sandwichman2448 | I am going to go to a place that makes more scence. |
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| 02:50.10 | Zeal | so hows chicago treating you Kirkburn, not seen you on in a few days. |
| 02:50.28 | Adys | Wait, what's SWM talking about |
| 02:50.31 | Adys | he never makes sense |
| 02:50.50 | Sky2042_afk | apparently he thought it was a little crazy in here... |
| 02:51.01 | Adys | he creeps me out |
| 02:51.09 | Zeal | lol |
| 02:52.07 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+v winkiller] by ChanServ |
| 02:52.35 | Kirkburn | :) |
| 02:52.39 | Kirkburn | Chicago is awesome :P |
| 02:52.46 | Zeal | hehe |
| 02:52.47 | winkiller | hello afkirky :P |
| 02:52.54 | Kirkburn | Er, sorry, "Chicago" is awesome :P |
| 02:52.55 | Zeal | haha |
| 02:53.04 | kd3 | ahaha |
| 02:53.07 | Zeal | lol |
| 02:53.29 | Kirkburn | What do people think of this method of showing where content appears - http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Master_Chief ... see top-right |
| 02:53.41 | Kirkburn | Still no router, so only one PC can be online at a time |
| 02:53.53 | Zeal | thought i'd type it like the natives say it ;p actually that'd be mroe australian i think. |
| 02:53.56 | Kirkburn | I busy myself playing Vice City (completed) and now San Andreas :P |
| 02:54.14 | Zeal | lol |
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| 02:55.35 | Zeal | how's it done Kirkburn? looks interesting, little obscure for an non-halo player (me) :p |
| 02:56.32 | Kirkburn | {{Era|H1|H2|H3|FOR|TF|FS|GOO|UP|HGN}} |
| 02:56.42 | Kirkburn | http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Era |
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| 02:58.03 | Zeal | oh, i thought it was the stuff down the right under nav :P |
| 02:58.40 | Zeal | hm.. i honestly prefer (and is a later step to where i'm heading) the templates we have like {{RPG}} {{Novel}} {{WoW}} etc. |
| 02:59.43 | Zeal | and have them cat based on article type and that template eg. an item that appears in a novel would get novel items (very obscure and rough example ofc) |
| 03:01.01 | Kirkburn | If you're meaning article headers, I think it's bad enough guilds have them |
| 03:02.00 | Kirkburn | using {{novel}}, etc, to show where certain information is from is a good idea, but these icons would complement them in quickly showing where this stuff appeared |
| 03:02.22 | Kirkburn | e.g. Tyrande would get a WC3, WoW and WotA trilogy logo |
| 03:02.24 | Zeal | well i wouldn't like to see thme remain as they are. they're too big for it tbh. something inline, or as you've shown, simply an icon. |
| 03:02.36 | Kirkburn | A WC3 map or item would just get the WC3 logo up there |
| 03:02.51 | Zeal | though the location, i don't like. too much is going up there, nad it covers text in certain skins and not being logged in. |
| 03:03.26 | Kirkburn | Skins other than monobook, wowwiki and quartz ... meh. They shouldn't really be available anyway |
| 03:03.47 | Zeal | i'm referinf to quartz with the login info being covered up :P |
| 03:03.55 | Zeal | *refering |
| 03:04.02 | Kirkburn | Login info? |
| 03:04.18 | Zeal | "Welcome to Halopedia. Log in and join the community" |
| 03:04.36 | Kirkburn | I wonder if that was me .... |
| 03:05.27 | Zeal | but either way, especially with wow wiki, i can easilly see the icons running out of space with multiple icons, plus language links. |
| 03:06.02 | Kirkburn | Nah, was my boss - deleted it :P |
| 03:06.08 | Zeal | lol |
| 03:06.18 | Kirkburn | Language links should be being phased out in favour of interwikis |
| 03:06.55 | Zeal | hm.. how's that working though. just have links to the alt language versions at the bottom? |
| 03:06.58 | Kirkburn | The other one that uses that space is Wikipedia, which is barely useful these days anyway :( |
| 03:07.18 | Kirkburn | [[fr:tyrande]] - produces a sidebar link |
| 03:07.25 | Zeal | and yeah, wikipedia one was acutlaly what i was thinking of xp |
| 03:07.39 | Kirkburn | It would link to the [[Tyrande]] article on fr.wowwiki |
| 03:07.45 | Zeal | it does? how's that done? :o |
| 03:07.54 | Kirkburn | Built-in stuff |
| 03:08.02 | Zeal | mm.. nice |
| 03:08.19 | Kirkburn | Only works for wikia wikis, however |
| 03:08.43 | Kirkburn | As for the size of {{novel}}, etc ... yeah I agree they should be smaller, one line things |
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| 03:09.36 | Zeal | i think the best idea would be either a new bar, probably below amboxes, above summaries, to contain them, so it can expand multiple rows is needed. if not, then bottom. ideally it would be nice to have thme appear alongside somewhere. |
| 03:09.55 | Zeal | *if |
| 03:10.17 | Kirkburn | Oh, no, those are supposed to flag specific content within an article, not really the article itself |
| 03:10.18 | Zeal | Adys, this is a good candidate for <aside> ;) |
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| 03:10.27 | Adys | sup? |
| 03:10.58 | Zeal | what do you mean kirkburn? |
| 03:11.31 | Kirkburn | sec |
| 03:12.43 | Kirkburn | Hmm |
| 03:12.45 | Zeal | carrying from that age old discussion that happened when scrolls of lore users tried to propose an Appendix 3 template to do that same, both me and baggins made it clear why such templates really have no need to exist and if anything show a bias. |
| 03:12.50 | Zeal | *on from |
| 03:13.07 | Kirkburn | The article type templates could probably become like the {{era}} template |
| 03:13.23 | Zeal | aye |
| 03:13.36 | Kirkburn | The {{x-section}} and {{x-inline}} are all that are really needed |
| 03:13.54 | Zeal | aye |
| 03:14.00 | Kirkburn | Would help clean up articles too |
| 03:14.30 | Kirkburn | I'm not back in the UK until Monday, so there's little chance of me being able to do much stuff until then |
| 03:15.57 | Zeal | what i'd like is for summaries to categorise based on the article's type, and then as with {{era}} templates that categorise based on sources/appearances, with both being able to combime to categorise relationships with sources based on type. |
| 03:16.05 | Zeal | np |
| 03:16.24 | Kirkburn | When you say "summaries" what are you referring to? |
| 03:16.38 | Kirkburn | The thing you added to the books? |
| 03:16.57 | Zeal | infoboxes, tooltip etc. |
| 03:17.05 | Zeal | the thing i added is a stop-gap |
| 03:17.07 | Zeal | lol |
| 03:17.51 | Kirkburn | Oh, yeah, that's fair |
| 03:18.06 | Zeal | ^_^ |
| 03:18.19 | Kirkburn|afk | Going afk, toodles |
| 03:18.43 | Zeal | see ya |
| 03:24.10 | Adys | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Redirects_from_%22As_of%22 |
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| 03:26.04 | Zeal | list of redirects which are simple "as of" prefixes for real articles |
| 03:26.22 | Adys | zeal, i did get that |
| 03:26.24 | Adys | just.. |
| 03:26.28 | Zeal | why? :p |
| 03:26.56 | Zeal | seems a little excessive to me, but meh. |
| 03:27.02 | Adys | yeah. |
| 03:29.37 | Zeal | bah, screw it. i#m taking fandy's talk page off my watchlist :P |
| 03:33.31 | Zeal | quick naming question. i was going with "material items" for items used as recipe mats, but the original naming in cats was "ingredients", so i'm unsure if it should use "ingredient items" instead. anyone feel strongly one way or the other? |
| 03:33.45 | Zeal | *if i should |
| 03:36.34 | LadySerena | AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! |
| 03:36.47 | LadySerena | I just saw a 65 Human Warlock still using Demon Armor |
| 03:37.11 | osmodiar | why shouldn't they? (i've never got a lock that high, so i don't know) |
| 03:37.53 | LadySerena | because around 60 you get Fel Armor |
| 03:38.07 | LadySerena | which isn't armor, but it improves spell hit and healing |
| 03:38.28 | Zeal | and demon armor? |
| 03:38.42 | osmodiar | demon armor heals you, i remember that much |
| 03:39.07 | LadySerena | 15 health every 5 seconds |
| 03:39.31 | Zeal | probably prefered demon armor for soloing then, less down time? i've not idea. that or new to tbc. |
| 03:39.51 | Zeal | *no idea |
| 03:47.37 | neil12 | any new stuff on wotlk |
| 03:47.55 | Zeal | not afaik |
| 03:48.02 | neil12 | ok thy |
| 03:49.30 | neil12 | the armor on the to to lvl 70 bc mass you up |
| 03:50.42 | neil12 | you need the have the bc spell |
| 03:53.07 | Kirkburn|afk | Fel Armor + Tanking pet = good for soloing |
| 03:53.20 | Kirkburn|afk | However, if you're likely to get hit, demon armor ain't so bad |
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| 03:54.24 | Zeal | yeah, that was i thoughts |
| 03:54.30 | Zeal | *was my |
| 03:54.46 | Zeal | anyway, i'm gunna have to call it a night |
| 03:58.39 | neil12 | so we bad in wsg |
| 03:58.54 | Zeal | nn all |
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| 04:04.09 | Sky2042_afk | zeal / Kirkburn|afk, like the template they have on wookiepedia which shows what era?... |
| 04:04.59 | Kirkburn|afk | http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Era |
| 04:05.13 | Sky2042_afk | i bet it's the same on starwars |
| 04:05.24 | Sky2042_afk | http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Era ? |
| 04:05.35 | Sky2042_afk | Eras* |
| 04:05.57 | Sky2042_afk | attacked by a welcome message on starwars :/ |
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| 05:00.27 | TecnoBrat | oh MEMORIES |
| 05:00.29 | TecnoBrat | [21:29:44] <+DuTempete> <insert dog smiley> Kirkburn :) |
| 05:00.29 | TecnoBrat | [21:30:40] <@Kirkburn> <insert ({) smiley> DuTempete |
| 05:00.29 | TecnoBrat | [21:30:54] <Corgan> <insert penis> Fisker- |
| 05:00.29 | TecnoBrat | [21:32:02] <@Kirkburn> You just had to take it too far, didn't you |
| 05:00.35 | TecnoBrat | hahah |
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| 05:03.53 | sirusx69 | hello |
| 05:03.59 | Kirkburn|afk | Welcome |
| 05:04.06 | sirusx69 | ^_^ |
| 05:04.19 | sirusx69 | Would you happen to have any knowledge of WoW on linux/ |
| 05:04.22 | Kirkburn|afk | TecnoBrat, DuTempete wants to smack you :) |
| 05:04.34 | TecnoBrat | lol |
| 05:04.37 | Kirkburn|afk | Not personally, but someone might be around that does |
| 05:04.47 | Kirkburn|afk | bleeter, linux ping :P |
| 05:05.08 | sirusx69 | well then, if this someone exists i need helps =) |
| 05:05.10 | osmodiar | sirusx69: i use leenoox |
| 05:05.10 | TecnoBrat | If I had anyone who lived with me, I might be scared :P |
| 05:05.27 | TecnoBrat | unless ... |
| 05:05.35 | Kirkburn|afk | loner |
| 05:05.40 | TecnoBrat | she has paid off my 3 year old with cookies and yoghurt.... |
| 05:06.27 | sirusx69 | speaking of sleep >.> |
| 05:06.33 | Kirkburn|afk | DuTempete is apprently very good with little kids :) |
| 05:06.46 | TecnoBrat | lol |
| 05:06.49 | sirusx69 | osmodiar did you get my PM? |
| 05:07.06 | osmodiar | wow, little impatient, eh ;p |
| 05:07.13 | sirusx69 | no, just wanted to make sure it worked |
| 05:07.38 | sirusx69 | <===first time linux user (been 4 days since ive touched a windows machine!!) + i dunno this built in Instant messaging thing in Fedora core |
| 05:09.34 | sirusx69 | I have to admit though compiz-fusion is fun |
| 05:19.25 | kd3 | the IM client's called "pidgin". it was gaim until AOL slapped them with a lawsuit. it works on windows too |
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| 05:46.18 | Sky2042_afk | Kirkburn|afk: you up still? |
| 05:53.28 | Sky2042_afk | helllllllllllooooooooooo |
| 05:57.07 | Kirkburn|afk | sup Sky2042_afk |
| 05:57.22 | Sky2042_afk | got a gold ad on wowwiki about the time i pinged |
| 06:01.14 | Sky2042_afk | gggggggggggggggggggggaaaaaaa |
| 06:06.29 | Kirkburn|afk | yeah, I saw |
| 06:06.52 | Sky2042_afk | eh |
| 06:06.59 | Kirkburn|sleep | Not much I can do atm |
| 06:07.09 | Kirkburn|sleep | Will see about flagging it tomorrow |
| 06:07.34 | Sky2042_afk | mk |
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| 07:27.00 | kefkai | Hi - was wondering how I could go about reporting wowwiki abuse? =o |
| 07:27.22 | kefkai | Specifically a player who has been harassing my guild ever since he was kicked found it necessary to remove my guild from our server's list of raiding guilds. Quite pissing me off and definitely an abuse of the system :) |
| 07:28.30 | Sky2042_afk | kefkai: need a link |
| 07:28.33 | Sky2042_afk | to user |
| 07:28.49 | Sky2042_afk | for the future, http://www.wowwiki.com/WW:V should suit you, but I can deal with it right now. |
| 07:29.16 | kefkai | erm just copy his name as linked on the edit page or? |
| 07:29.52 | Sky2042_afk | just need a name =) |
| 07:30.00 | Sky2042_afk | his editing name |
| 07:30.12 | kefkai | ewokpride |
| 07:30.37 | Sky2042_afk | seen his name before |
| 07:30.54 | Sky2042_afk | ah |
| 07:30.57 | kefkai | he pretty much tries to kill any guild he leaves =] |
| 07:30.58 | Sky2042_afk | one or two times before |
| 07:31.28 | kefkai | he's been caught alt'ing on wow forums to talk smack about my guild, etc...but pulling our name from the list of raiding guilds is just f'ing petty. |
| 07:32.19 | Sky2042_afk | he's done it once; i'll leave him a note about being a jerk :). if you have issues again, hop on irc again and ping one of the guys with an @ symbol or list him at that link. |
| 07:32.27 | kefkai | thanks guys :) |
| 07:32.28 | Sky2042_afk | done it once, it looks like* |
| 07:41.27 | Sky2042_afk | ggrrrr'' |
| 07:41.41 | Sky2042_afk | i broke smashwiki. go me. |
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| 09:23.18 | Paradox | http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=14304 |
| 09:23.25 | Paradox | what are kor'kron? can't find any texts about them |
| 09:24.43 | Paradox | oh http://www.wowwiki.com/Kor'kron;p |
| 09:49.37 | Sky2042_afk | heh |
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| 14:51.37 | Zeal | silly net. |
| 14:51.41 | Zeal | lo all |
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| 14:53.14 | Zeal | http://www.vgcats.com/comics/ haha |
| 15:05.22 | Zeal | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:WoW_Comic_6_0-a_%28artwork%29.jpg is it more or does that naga look more like a tauren in the face? :P |
| 15:16.36 | pcj | Doesn't look like a tauren or a naga |
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| 15:17.32 | Zeal | sure.. |
| 15:18.51 | Zeal | probably got another month to wait until i see issue 3. comic is actually pretty decent, prefer it to the manhwa. |
| 15:19.20 | pcj | does javascript have a problem with displaying non-AJAX-retrieved content in the same DIV as AJAX content |
| 15:20.00 | Zeal | don't beleive so :S |
| 15:20.16 | pcj | caching is oddly failing then |
| 15:20.19 | pcj | brb |
| 15:20.20 | Zeal | :( |
| 15:20.22 | Zeal | kk |
| 15:26.38 | gfdsg | o.O |
| 15:26.43 | gfdsg | O.o |
| 15:26.56 | gfdsg | whats best spec for warlock undead? |
| 15:27.11 | gfdsg | for pvp |
| 15:27.36 | Zeal | the one that turns you into a warrior |
| 15:31.39 | pcj | so felguard spec |
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| 16:15.33 | pcj | nice commenting there zeal |
| 16:16.00 | pcj | You have one part that has getElementByID, wrong case on the Id |
| 16:21.12 | Zeal | that would be why i'm getting errors then, no? :P |
| 16:21.56 | pcj | Probably a part of it |
| 16:22.06 | Zeal | hehe |
| 16:24.33 | pcj | your regexs are a bit out of date as well |
| 16:25.26 | Zeal | no suprise :p |
| 16:29.15 | Zeal | :o |
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| 16:46.53 | pcj | yeah it sets the innerHTML just fine it just doesn't display it |
| 16:47.49 | Zeal | on yours right? i'll take a glance in a sec |
| 16:48.05 | pcj | oh well i have the cache part removed since it borked it up |
| 16:48.16 | pcj | but if you look at the history yeah |
| 16:49.57 | Zeal | aye |
| 16:53.01 | Zeal | was the display and visibility properties actually changing when you tested via alert? |
| 16:53.08 | Zeal | *were |
| 16:54.02 | pcj | yeah |
| 16:54.47 | pcj | it seems like it was hiding it too fast |
| 16:54.50 | pcj | or something |
| 16:55.17 | pcj | i tried disabling the hide function and they both showed up so... |
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| 16:56.54 | Zeal | weird. don't know if you fixed it, but before with how you detected the links, it would double up on the inner spans or something, making it hide and then show on the brackets. but still, the show was firing right after so they shouldn't stay hidden :s |
| 16:57.39 | Zeal | i can't honestly see anything wrong, but then i doubt i could even if there is : / |
| 16:57.54 | pcj | well is yours working |
| 17:01.33 | Zeal | kind of, lol. |
| 17:02.11 | pcj | Is it showing the cached version? |
| 17:02.38 | Zeal | problem is, it's refusing to actually load the first time. |
| 17:03.15 | pcj | gg |
| 17:03.49 | Zeal | i'm getting soem weird behavoiur. entering the link from the top, or sides, shows the cache immediately (evne though the word cache should never be set unless there's been a non-empty result hidden previously) yet when i enter the link from below, i get nothing at all. |
| 17:04.15 | pcj | what browser are you using? |
| 17:04.18 | Zeal | IE7 |
| 17:04.33 | pcj | Hmm |
| 17:06.01 | Zeal | woops, i was saving "cache" when it was empty. |
| 17:08.13 | Zeal | if (ttCache.innerHTML != null || ttCache.innerHTML != "") is returning true all the time : / |
| 17:08.44 | Zeal | because it's a stupid check.. bah nvm. |
| 17:08.47 | Zeal | i need to wake up. |
| 17:08.55 | pcj | lol |
| 17:13.27 | Zeal | side and top entries = show, hide, show. entering from below = show. weird. annoying, because i output loading mesages, it's caching and redisplaying those isntead of the final output. more checks needed, but it's basically working. |
| 17:19.23 | mesh04_ | has anybody found a patch 2.3.3 enGB mac mirror yet? |
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| 17:23.15 | pcj | Ah, found the problem with mine zeal :P |
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| 17:29.04 | Zeal | what was it? :P |
| 17:31.01 | pcj | document.body.onmouseover didn't like stacked divs |
| 17:31.03 | Zeal | ah i see |
| 17:31.05 | Zeal | lol |
| 17:35.33 | pcj | there, cache is fully implemented now :P |
| 17:36.22 | Zeal | nice |
| 17:40.55 | Zeal | and now so is mine :P |
| 17:41.39 | pcj | god what took you so long |
| 17:41.56 | Zeal | lol |
| 17:43.03 | pcj | an admin should lock down cacheName = pagename + "-cache"; |
| 17:43.03 | pcj | cacheDiv = document.createElement("div"); |
| 17:43.03 | pcj | cacheDiv.setAttribute("id", cacheName); |
| 17:43.03 | pcj | contentstart = document.getElementById("content"); |
| 17:43.03 | pcj | contentstart.insertBefore(cacheDiv , contentstart.childNodes[0]); |
| 17:43.05 | pcj | cache = document.getElementById(cacheName); |
| 17:43.07 | pcj | cache.style.display = "none"; |
| 17:43.09 | pcj | cache.innerHTML = tip.innerHTML; |
| 17:43.11 | pcj | bah stupid clipboard |
| 17:43.13 | pcj | trying that again... |
| 17:43.18 | pcj | an admin should lock down http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Hemorrhage&action=history |
| 17:43.26 | pcj | and potentially ban the participants |
| 17:44.14 | Zeal | lol |
| 17:46.00 | Kalroth | God, a hemo rogue |
| 17:50.13 | Zeal | http://iruler.net/ <- <3 |
| 17:50.42 | pcj | wtf |
| 17:51.09 | Zeal | i never have a ruler handy, that thing always comes in useful |
| 17:51.29 | pcj | Yeah, just gotta carry your monitor around everywhere |
| 17:51.36 | Adys | HELL YEAH |
| 17:51.44 | Zeal | lol, or just not leave your pc ;) |
| 17:52.07 | Zeal | i usually jsut use a peice of wire or something against the screen to measure stuff. |
| 17:52.29 | Kalroth | ?5707312000517? |
| 17:52.48 | Zeal | anyways.. some nub cut one of my fragmats a few mm shorter than it should be. i've got one bigger than the other :( |
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| 17:53.32 | pcj | grats |
| 17:53.53 | Adys | DUMB |
| 17:53.56 | Adys | WHY JPG |
| 17:53.56 | Zeal | oh well, small price to pay to have nelf and belf cat fight under your mouse :p |
| 17:53.59 | Adys | WHY NOT SVG |
| 17:54.10 | Zeal | that would make more sense indeed |
| 17:54.26 | Zeal | but it would require third party viewers for some browsers |
| 17:54.37 | Adys | No |
| 17:54.45 | Adys | it would require some people to stop using dumb browsers |
| 17:54.49 | Zeal | lol |
| 17:56.22 | Zeal | oh, i found the sunwell trilogy standee display on ebay for $5 + shipping yesterday |
| 17:56.30 | Adys | IS IT SVG? |
| 17:56.40 | Zeal | but the person will only ship to US and Canada :( |
| 17:56.46 | Zeal | lol |
| 17:57.33 | Zeal | http://cgi.ebay.com/World-of-Warcraft-Advertising-Standee-Dragon-Night-Elf_W0QQitemZ350016906228QQihZ022QQcategoryZ363QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| 17:57.41 | Zeal | don't you jsut hate ebay urls? |
| 17:57.48 | Adys | ARE THEY SVG? |
| 17:58.00 | pcj | no, they help me practice my typing |
| 17:58.05 | Adys | THEN ITS DUMB |
| 17:58.37 | Zeal | adys, are you SVG? :p |
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| 17:58.58 | Adys | ENTIRELY AND COMPLETELY SVG COMPATIBLE BITCH |
| 17:59.39 | Adys | caps are getting boring, tvtime bbl |
| 17:59.57 | Zeal | private ebay feedback is lame : / |
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| 18:11.17 | winkiller | http://www.ninjababesfromspace.com/ |
| 18:24.15 | Zeal | ... |
| 18:29.18 | pcj | Indeed |
| 18:46.49 | pcj | http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080123/world_forum_at_t.html?.v=2\ |
| 18:46.52 | pcj | http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080123/world_forum_at_t.html?.v=2 * |
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| 19:00.24 | Zeal | boycott AT&T |
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| 19:09.24 | mxs | Did anybody else notice that PatchSequenceFile.txt contains closed beta files ? |
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| 19:12.16 | pcj | hi keolah :) |
| 19:12.25 | Keolah | hi |
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| 19:14.33 | Zeal | mxs, never heard of such a file :s |
| 19:16.49 | mxs | Zeal: the Launcher obtains that file every time it launches |
| 19:17.00 | mxs | us.version.worldofwarcraft.com/update/PatchSequenceFile.txt |
| 19:17.13 | mxs | if you look closely, you'll notice a few very odd build numbers |
| 19:17.35 | mxs | if you know how to get the associated downloader MPQs and therefore torrents, you'll get an interesting bunch of files |
| 19:17.54 | mxs | namely a patch.cmd containing "ClosedBetaHack" and "WoWPatchIndex 9" |
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| 19:18.44 | Zeal | er.. there's no closed beta patches listed in that txt file. |
| 19:18.59 | Zeal | they're all expected builds |
| 19:19.26 | mxs | Zeal: 7800 ? |
| 19:19.35 | mxs | 7752 ? |
| 19:19.48 | mxs | 7579 ? |
| 19:20.24 | Zeal | all the oens below 7999 make sense as ones they used while updating the PTRs |
| 19:20.33 | Zeal | 7800, no idea. |
| 19:20.35 | mxs | were they really ? |
| 19:20.56 | mxs | It's been bugging me for a while (since 2.3.2), since ptr patches used to be in a section of their own |
| 19:21.30 | Zeal | so, how would i get said patch? |
| 19:22.05 | mxs | that's the kicker, you can't get the initial patch ;) |
| 19:23.11 | Zeal | <mxs> if you know how to get the associated downloader MPQs and therefore torrents, you'll get an interesting bunch of files |
| 19:23.14 | Zeal | that ^ |
| 19:23.35 | mxs | and the PTR patches do NOT use closedbetahack in their patch.cmd |
| 19:23.48 | mxs | well ... you see those placeholders ? |
| 19:23.55 | Zeal | ofc |
| 19:24.02 | mxs | fill in something sensible and use that in place of PatchSequenceFile.txt |
| 19:24.12 | mxs | that'll get you the MPQ containing the downloader |
| 19:24.32 | mxs | i.e. the 2.3.3 PTR patch contained "WoWPatchIndex 3", but not the ClosedBetaHack |
| 19:25.05 | Zeal | "sensible" how am i supposed to know what they use for cpu and os names? :P |
| 19:25.14 | mxs | Win and x86 come to mind |
| 19:25.50 | Zeal | exactly, cpu could have been anything and os could have been more complex. |
| 19:26.19 | mxs | well, I told ya :P |
| 19:26.37 | mxs | this, however, intrigues me to no end. |
| 19:27.37 | Zeal | well if i'm not mistaken, the file size is the same as 2.3.2 |
| 19:27.57 | Zeal | *3.3 |
| 19:28.00 | mxs | naturally |
| 19:28.02 | mxs | it's the downloader |
| 19:28.20 | mxs | you extrat the torrent from that, fetch it (or extract the downloader, execute it) |
| 19:28.23 | mxs | that'll get you the patch |
| 19:28.49 | mxs | only the 7579->7752 and 7752->7800 patches are available though |
| 19:28.49 | Zeal | no, i mean the file size of the patch that downloader was downloading |
| 19:29.00 | mxs | you are mistaken, they differ |
| 19:29.06 | mxs | not by much, but they do :) |
| 19:29.17 | Zeal | kk them, the 4.27MB is rounded anyways. |
| 19:29.20 | Zeal | *then |
| 19:29.25 | mxs | and as I said, the beginning of the series is missing, i.e. the one from x.x.x to 7579 |
| 19:30.09 | mxs | so there is no wotlk beta there. It might be incremental updates to the wotlk closed beta, or incremental updates to the new language versions (ruRU and esMX have popped up as descriptors in European patchnotes) |
| 19:30.23 | mxs | though neither ruRU nor esMX are downloadable, just enUS |
| 19:30.43 | mxs | no idea whether they announced esMX yet |
| 19:34.15 | mxs | ok, I am getting somewhere. Does anybody know what StartGnomeDwarf-4.MPQ could possibly be ? |
| 19:37.00 | mxs | they MIGHT be playing around with streamable content downloads |
| 19:38.07 | mxs | nah, wrong assumption |
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| 19:42.33 | Sky2042 | gotta love it when the css doesn't load all the way |
| 19:42.34 | Sky2042 | xD |
| 19:43.20 | Zeal | i'm lost inside the .exe itself. |
| 19:43.38 | Zeal | checked out the patch.cmd and confirmed what you said. |
| 19:43.50 | Zeal | but where's the mpq's to patch. |
| 19:44.05 | mxs | Zeal: it might be a new kind of trial client |
| 19:44.06 | Zeal | and wtf at "enGB-hdfiles" |
| 19:45.03 | mxs | build 7579 is definitely a trial client |
| 19:48.08 | mxs | yeah, this is the new trial client |
| 19:49.01 | mxs | not sure how to get it |
| 19:49.16 | Zeal | more interested in 7752 |
| 19:50.10 | mxs | well, 7579 has an update path to 7752 and 7800 |
| 19:50.46 | Zeal | yuup |
| 19:51.07 | mxs | that ClosedBetaHack still strikes me as odd |
| 19:51.47 | Zeal | how exactly were you getting mpq's out of the patcher though? still stuck on that part :P |
| 19:52.08 | kd3 | mpqedit can read them, just can't extract properly |
| 19:52.36 | kd3 | it's like a self-extracting .zip executable. the data's still there in the proper format, just with a weird header |
| 19:52.37 | mxs | kd3: that's news to me |
| 19:52.43 | mxs | kd3: works just fine with ladik's here |
| 19:53.10 | mxs | generally you just cut away everything before the MPQ header |
| 19:53.13 | Zeal | what i mean is, where are there any mpq fiels inside the patch.exe's mpq? |
| 19:53.40 | kd3 | ah, didn't think about that. I've just been opening them up as-is |
| 19:54.04 | mxs | doesn't skip the exe, yeah |
| 19:54.15 | mxs | I just cut away everything up to the mpq header :) |
| 19:55.23 | Zeal | w/e i'm doing, it all required is to rename the .exe to mpq. everything is read and extracted fine. |
| 19:55.36 | Zeal | *all it |
| 19:56.28 | kd3 | ah, I've got an outdated version too. that may have something to do with it |
| 19:56.49 | mxs | still though, it strikes me as odd that the trial would follow a different update path |
| 19:57.36 | mxs | but there are reports using build 7579 on the forums (crash reports) with the pathname including "trial" |
| 20:04.14 | Zeal | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=2342364347&sid=1 |
| 20:05.35 | mxs | referred to as "streaming client" |
| 20:06.17 | Zeal | thought that might interest you, heh |
| 20:06.37 | ralfWORK | lol that link uses great english |
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| 20:07.50 | Sky2042 | lol zeal. i saw t:cats, and i thought, must be something zeal made... :o |
| 20:10.14 | Adys | i saw Bill Gates and i though "must be a bug" |
| 20:10.17 | mxs | Zeal: now I just need to figure out how I can convince trywow.exe to use the streaming client, but for that I'd need to fire up ethereal again :) |
| 20:10.59 | Zeal | i'm downloading the trial atm to see what i can do. |
| 20:11.02 | Zeal | and sky, what? |
| 20:11.14 | mxs | Zeal: you need to get it to use the streaming client, NOT the 3.16 gb client |
| 20:11.25 | Sky2042 | lol, nvm |
| 20:15.19 | Zeal | looking at, nope. thats not me ;) |
| 20:19.33 | pcj | zeal http://www.wowwiki.com/Category_talk:Funny_Items |
| 20:22.40 | Zeal | ty |
| 20:23.16 | Sky2042 | rar deletions |
| 20:23.49 | Zeal | being in the uk, i'm not having much lucky convincing it to let me steam mxs : / |
| 20:24.10 | Adys | wow you're gonna do a listing of items with an easter egg on them? |
| 20:24.22 | Adys | thats gonna be bigger than wikipedia's listing of years. |
| 20:25.58 | Zeal | hm? |
| 20:29.21 | Sky2042 | "Funny items" |
| 20:30.32 | Zeal | reworking what's there, but yeah, sure. no bigger than the majority of cats i'd imagine. |
| 20:32.39 | Sky2042 | zeal, were there even items in war1 / 2? |
| 20:32.41 | Sky2042 | :/ |
| 20:32.57 | Zeal | no idea, but certainly items in wc3 and lore. |
| 20:33.04 | Sky2042 | aye, certainly in wc3 |
| 20:33.11 | Zeal | oh ffs.. i can't evne get the eu version to stream. |
| 20:33.32 | Sky2042 | there weren't in war1 |
| 20:34.00 | Sky2042 | and none in war2 either |
| 20:34.03 | Sky2042 | no heroes |
| 20:34.08 | Zeal | kk |
| 20:34.09 | Sky2042 | no-one to pick up items |
| 20:38.06 | Sky2042 | bah |
| 20:38.16 | Sky2042 | need the damn extension, not this retarded and outdated parser tag |
| 20:38.24 | Sky2042 | wtb wiki upgrade, pst |
| 20:38.58 | pcj | bop |
| 20:39.11 | Sky2042 | boop |
| 20:46.05 | Sky2042 | lol. i love edit conflicting myself. |
| 20:46.54 | mxs | Zeal: same in Germany, haven't looked into fooling the system yet -- though Blizzard's distribution system is generally easily fooled :) |
| 20:47.46 | Zeal | i should try out of peak times, i get throttled atm i'd imagine. |
| 20:56.08 | Kirkburn|sleep | Morning |
| 20:57.43 | Kirkburn | Given that I'm essentially on holiday atm, got little report upgrade-wise |
| 20:58.17 | Kirkburn | However, I have a feeling I know another (good) reason why we've not got it just yet |
| 20:58.24 | Sky2042 | oh boy |
| 20:58.35 | Sky2042 | quartz 3? |
| 20:58.44 | Adys | NO ITS ALL YOUR FAULT SKY |
| 20:58.49 | Adys | morning kirk |
| 20:58.50 | Kirkburn | Partly ... |
| 20:58.56 | Kirkburn | hullo |
| 20:58.57 | Sky2042 | probably. and "It's", Adys. |
| 20:59.14 | Adys | i dont have the apostrophe when i keep caps locked |
| 20:59.22 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 20:59.25 | Adys | Im on a non standard keyboard kay? |
| 20:59.30 | Sky2042 | solution: don't use caps? |
| 20:59.40 | Adys | SHUT UP ITS COOL |
| 20:59.55 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 21:00.35 | Kirkburn | That's one freaky keyboard |
| 21:01.07 | Kirkburn | Sky2042, I will say it's better than just Quartz v3 |
| 21:01.14 | Sky2042 | ....... |
| 21:01.21 | pcj | Quartz v3.1? |
| 21:01.25 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 21:01.26 | Sky2042 | Quartz 4? |
| 21:02.46 | Kirkburn | >_> |
| 21:02.56 | Sky2042 | Not-Quarts 1.0? |
| 21:02.59 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 21:03.11 | Adys | Kirkburn: Qzerty! |
| 21:03.24 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 21:03.29 | Adys | http://www.devcub.com/misc/qzerty.gif |
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| 21:03.41 | Kirkburn | So? Surely that should still only toggle letters |
| 21:03.53 | pcj | No, it's gay |
| 21:04.02 | Adys | Not if I dont want it to :) |
| 21:04.13 | Sky2042 | I bet {{PAGENAME}} and templates are a bitch |
| 21:04.37 | Adys | not really |
| 21:04.39 | Sky2042 | anyway, Kirkburn, what's this better-than-quartz v3? |
| 21:04.41 | Sky2042 | ? |
| 21:04.48 | Adys | have you seen where the letters and signs are on the keyboard? |
| 21:05.00 | Adys | next to uiop i got ()[]{} |
| 21:05.07 | Sky2042 | same place as standard |
| 21:05.12 | Adys | normal caps altgr |
| 21:05.20 | Zeal | it's the Kirky v1 skin |
| 21:05.23 | Adys | i dont use caps for {{templates}} |
| 21:05.36 | Kirkburn | Sky2042, something I can only hope comes soon |
| 21:05.51 | pcj | you and dutempete are getting married? |
| 21:06.21 | Adys | I'm getting a better dinner than pasta and steaks? |
| 21:06.25 | Kirkburn | Aaanyway ... I dislike promising stuff that you don't see for aaages, but in this case I can at least say I've seen it in action |
| 21:06.26 | Zeal | nah, kirkburn would propose via the main page ;p |
| 21:06.39 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 21:07.30 | Adys | hey thats a good idea |
| 21:07.41 | Adys | Ill propose you via the main page for april |
| 21:08.01 | Sky2042 | that /is/ a good idea... |
| 21:08.03 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 21:08.20 | Adys | Sky2042: the keyboard enables quick shortcuts that make sense |
| 21:08.26 | Adys | like £€®©¶• |
| 21:08.29 | Sky2042 | if you say so |
| 21:08.33 | Sky2042 | ;p |
| 21:08.36 | Adys | ÷÷¬¬ |
| 21:08.44 | Adys | ¹²³³¦°÷ |
| 21:08.49 | Kirkburn | How many days are left in this month? |
| 21:08.56 | Adys | 8 |
| 21:08.59 | pcj | over 9000 |
| 21:09.06 | Adys | including the two hours in europe |
| 21:09.14 | Zeal | and my keyboard enables me to smack Adys over the head ;) |
| 21:09.28 | Adys | §§ |
| 21:09.37 | Kirkburn | Silly euros :P |
| 21:09.42 | Adys | •_, |
| 21:10.05 | Sky2042 | lol kirkburn! |
| 21:10.20 | Sky2042 | you can only hope comes soon huh... |
| 21:10.53 | Adys | ¬_° |
| 21:11.03 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 21:11.24 | Adys | ¦-*-¦ |
| 21:11.53 | Zeal | it's MW 1.11 isn't it? :P |
| 21:12.04 | pcj | shouldn't it be 1.12 ... |
| 21:12.05 | Sky2042 | that would be the upgrade, fool. |
| 21:12.40 | Adys | ¹.¹² |
| 21:12.41 | Sky2042 | and pcj, depends. rest of wikia's on .12, but it's apparently buggy as hell. it's also a beta release, unlike .11 |
| 21:12.43 | Adys | ok ill stop |
| 21:12.46 | Zeal | indeed, the reason we've no upgrade is because we're waiting for it, and kirkburn's seen in it action, and better and quartz 3 :p |
| 21:12.53 | Kirkburn | 1.12a is not buggy |
| 21:12.54 | pcj | ah |
| 21:13.01 | Kirkburn | However, getting it to work with Wikia is difficult |
| 21:13.05 | Sky2042 | Kirkburn: ^ |
| 21:13.11 | Sky2042 | not buggy, eh? |
| 21:13.12 | Sky2042 | :P |
| 21:13.19 | Kirkburn | Wikipedia runs on alpha |
| 21:13.24 | Zeal | and yeah, i had to double checked that with MW's site. thought 1.12 had gone final. |
| 21:13.24 | Sky2042 | oh, i know. |
| 21:13.25 | Kirkburn | It's always ready to run |
| 21:13.43 | Kirkburn | Our 1.12 version is not the latest, due to having to test it many many ways |
| 21:14.02 | Sky2042 | uh huh. |
| 21:14.12 | Kirkburn | Anyway, 1.12 upgrades are still in progress, only a few to go now (including us) |
| 21:14.33 | Sky2042 | who's still left? |
| 21:15.03 | Kirkburn | The biggest wikia wikis |
| 21:15.22 | Sky2042 | naturally. mem alpha? starwars? |
| 21:15.29 | Kirkburn | yeah |
| 21:15.35 | Kirkburn | wow, gamewikis, memory alpha, marvel db and uncyclo, and some others |
| 21:16.12 | Kirkburn | (Last so that any bugs can be fixed first, of course) |
| 21:16.33 | Sky2042 | us the very last because we're integrating |
| 21:16.35 | Sky2042 | ;( |
| 21:17.07 | Kirkburn | Pretty much |
| 21:17.18 | Kirkburn | This way we'll get a much smoother ride though ;) |
| 21:17.31 | Zeal | and zeal shall be no more ;) |
| 21:17.34 | Sky2042 | not... really. :[ |
| 21:17.38 | Kirkburn | :O |
| 21:17.52 | Kirkburn | Well, we've not had *any* ride yet :P |
| 21:18.11 | Kirkburn | Unless you count the shiny new server |
| 21:18.13 | Sky2042 | wtb rid, pst. |
| 21:18.20 | Zeal | so.. seeing as everyone left before. "material items" or "ingredient items" ? |
| 21:18.25 | Sky2042 | s/rid/ride/ |
| 21:18.30 | pcj | bop |
| 21:18.36 | Kirkburn | Latter |
| 21:18.49 | Sky2042 | ^ |
| 21:18.56 | Zeal | kk |
| 21:19.15 | Kirkburn | Wiki refers to them as ingredients, even if people say "mats" |
| 21:19.51 | Kirkburn | I guess mats works in context, but confusing without |
| 21:19.51 | Zeal | fair enough |
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| 21:38.17 | Zeal | lol. hey sannse. |
| 21:39.04 | Sky2042 | THE CANDYMAN CAN |
| 21:39.17 | Sky2042 | hey sannse, news on upgrade? |
| 21:39.30 | sannse | Sky2042: could be... moment while I check |
| 21:39.47 | Sky2042 | o_o |
| 21:40.11 | Zeal | lol |
| 21:40.45 | Sky2042 | that was unexpected. |
| 21:40.55 | Zeal | another good thing to coem out of france.. frubes :p |
| 21:42.41 | Sky2042 | ah gawd, i hate rainbow ride |
| 21:43.46 | sannse | sorry Sky2042, it's not on the list of the next batch - so no news :-/ |
| 21:43.49 | Zeal | hm.. "schematic items" would be the right? |
| 21:43.57 | Sky2042 | one would think |
| 21:44.05 | Zeal | *-the |
| 21:46.51 | Kirkburn | Sky2042, I could have told you that :P |
| 21:47.12 | Sky2042 | you said you were on vacation. some people take others at face value. |
| 21:47.17 | Sky2042 | ;P |
| 21:47.27 | Kirkburn | :O |
| 21:47.49 | Kirkburn | February ftw :) |
| 21:48.01 | Sky2042 | shocking, isn't it? |
| 21:48.30 | Sky2042 | goddamn |
| 21:49.23 | Sky2042 | keep timing out to a server which needs help... which they would migrate to wikia, but they can't, since it's not licensed freely. gaaah |
| 21:49.34 | Sky2042 | want. to. beat. something. |
| 21:55.29 | kd3 | heheh |
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| 22:08.21 | Sky2042 | for freakingakga rmeka a |
| 22:12.14 | pcj | what |
| 22:13.46 | Sky2042 | i'm a retard, is all =] |
| 22:15.29 | pcj | what else is new |
| 22:15.39 | Sky2042 | you are too! |
| 22:16.03 | pcj | no |
| 22:16.07 | Sky2042 | yes. |
| 22:16.15 | Zeal | maybe? |
| 22:16.35 | Sky2042 | definitely. |
| 22:19.54 | Sky2042 | Zeal <The Train> |
| 22:19.59 | Zeal | ? |
| 22:20.14 | Sky2042 | chuga chuga chuga |
| 22:20.38 | Zeal | chew chew? |
| 22:20.43 | Sky2042 | uh huh |
| 22:21.52 | Zeal | hungy |
| 22:22.54 | Sky2042 | god freaking damnit |
| 22:23.04 | pcj | hmm? |
| 22:24.39 | Zeal | wtf |
| 22:24.51 | Zeal | little engine that could? |
| 22:25.10 | Sky2042 | uh huh |
| 22:25.58 | Sky2042 | duh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh duh (etc) BATMAN! |
| 22:27.17 | winkiller | to the batcave |
| 22:32.15 | Zeal | i love how they market these fragmats as "oversised for extensixe movement" they're smaller than any gaming surface in existance. |
| 22:32.24 | Zeal | *extensive |
| 22:32.42 | Zeal | they're only slightly bigger than your average novelty mousemat. |
| 22:36.24 | Dotted | why you get steelseries |
| 22:39.01 | Zeal | "why did" or "why don't"? :P |
| 22:44.21 | Zeal | damn.. knew it'd come up. |
| 22:44.29 | Zeal | how do i handle gems? |
| 22:44.52 | Zeal | ie. cut gems, raw gems, non-socketing gems. |
| 22:47.29 | pcj | gems vs. jewels |
| 22:47.38 | pcj | vs minerals |
| 22:47.59 | Zeal | ah yes, jewels |
| 22:48.01 | Zeal | ty. |
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| 23:20.02 | Keolah | You know you play too much WoW when you get a cold and say "I wish there were a paladin here to remove this debuff." |
| 23:20.25 | pcj | ...or you dream about wow |
| 23:21.33 | TecnoBrat | I've dreamt about wow .. |
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| 23:22.20 | Zeal | lol |
| 23:22.50 | Zeal | keolah's daily stories of wow dreams :p |
| 23:23.39 | Keolah | Not "daily"! :p |
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| 23:25.34 | Keolah | Last night I was dreaming about elephants in a subway. |
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| 23:41.34 | kd3 | heheh... http://valleywag.com/348212/marketwatch-editor-on-stock-market-oh-s+++ |
| 23:42.08 | dcramer_ | 2.3.3 -- game version #? |
| 23:42.18 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_2.3.3 |
| 23:42.24 | dcramer_ | ah pro |
| 23:42.25 | dcramer_ | thanks |
| 23:45.32 | Kirkburn | zeeg, we always have that info :) It's on the [[Patches]] page too :) |
| 23:48.21 | Kirkburn | Anyone over 18, live near Austin, and want to help out at SXSW? |
| 23:48.31 | Kirkburn | (Austin, Texas) |
| 23:48.36 | Kirkburn | (USA) |
| 23:48.39 | Kirkburn | (World) |
| 23:49.10 | Zeal | (The Milky Way) |
| 23:49.39 | Kirkburn | You'd think there was a scientificky name for our galaxy ... |
| 23:49.46 | Zeal | lol |
| 23:50.17 | Zeal | orbis lacteus |
| 23:50.28 | Zeal | online latin translator ftw |
| 23:50.29 | Zeal | lol |
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| 23:53.27 | Kirkburn | Via Lactea |
| 23:53.31 | Kirkburn | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milky_Way |
| 23:53.41 | Zeal | close enough :p |
| 23:53.54 | Kirkburn | :) |
| 23:54.22 | Dotted | HVA VE DU KIRKBURN? |
| 23:54.42 | Kirkburn | Hey, I can talk gibberish too |
| 23:54.51 | Dotted | O'rly? |
| 23:55.03 | Dotted | also fail response :( |
| 23:56.53 | pcj | heh don't let zeal re-categorize the world like he is on wowwiki |
| 23:57.07 | Zeal | oh? |
