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| 00:23.41 | Tekkub | pcj_2, why are you removing tocright everywhere? |
| 00:24.00 | Bagginsww | tocright usually messes with screenshots and templates |
| 00:24.22 | Bagginsww | it really only works if there is no other templates |
| 00:24.28 | Tekkub | tocright is situational, yes |
| 00:24.39 | Tekkub | but he's blindly removing it everywhere |
| 00:24.45 | Bagginsww | ahh |
| 00:24.55 | Tekkub | like http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Widget_API&curid=14377&diff=1113878&oldid=1041438 |
| 00:25.00 | Tekkub | why? it was fine |
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| 00:51.28 | Bagginsww | funny I just noticed that More Magic & Mayhem has a reference to having a "Geomancer" prestidge class that doesn't actually appear in the book |
| 00:51.40 | Bagginsww | New and updated prestige classes, including the Argent Dawn |
| 00:51.40 | Bagginsww | crusader, enchanter, geomancer, and steam warrior. |
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| 01:35.36 | Bagginsww | I think it would be kinda cool if they opened up some of the other races hair designs for player characters, hairstyle changes. |
| 01:35.56 | Bagginsww | A gnome with wild spiky undead hair |
| 01:36.11 | Fishdert | but it removes the unique look of each class! |
| 01:36.35 | Bagginsww | well starting hair should be something that's race specific |
| 01:36.56 | Bagginsww | but you have go hunt down another race's barber to get other race's doos |
| 01:37.06 | Fishdert | btw, how do i get a link for my freenode address? as in, my name is black, everyone else's is blue... |
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| 01:53.19 | Lukian | Undercity faction required for a haircut :) |
| 02:00.11 | Sandwichman2448 | Undead do not have much hair. |
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| 03:10.33 | Bagginsww | well lukian it would be possible to find a neutral undead barber in say Dalaran, ;) |
| 03:10.55 | Lukian | Dalaran is sealed! |
| 03:11.00 | Bagginsww | You just need to be level 75 or better, ;) |
| 03:11.11 | Bagginsww | nah its flying in Northrend |
| 03:11.16 | Bagginsww | when the haircuts begin |
| 03:11.17 | Lukian | hehe yeah I know |
| 03:11.27 | Lukian | but at this point in time it's sealed! :d |
| 03:11.32 | Bagginsww | yes |
| 03:11.34 | Lukian | (What happens to the original btw?) |
| 03:11.39 | Bagginsww | I think sealed dalaran is going to stay there |
| 03:11.54 | Bagginsww | for continuity sake |
| 03:12.05 | Bagginsww | character progression |
| 03:13.49 | Lukian | hmm interesting |
| 03:14.35 | Lukian | hmm, they could make a lot of floating islands and stuff in wotlk.. |
| 03:14.55 | Lukian | what would be smart is to allow flying only in your current zone, until you reach the level required for the next zone |
| 03:15.02 | Bagginsww | I doubt it we should have gotten floating islands in outland :p |
| 03:15.20 | Bagginsww | I think they are just going to make us get new flying mounts that only work in northrend |
| 03:15.29 | Lukian | yeah, but no one had a flying mount, now technically everyone does |
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| 03:15.38 | Bagginsww | old ones won't work in azeroth |
| 03:15.49 | Bagginsww | so your back to hoofing it |
| 03:15.59 | Bagginsww | until you find a new flying mount |
| 03:16.06 | Bagginsww | well the new one might be backwords compatible |
| 03:17.57 | Lukian | blizzard have never stopped people using mounts where they wish (once capable) |
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| 03:19.32 | Bagginsww | except that flying mounts at the start of northrend would be cheating |
| 03:19.42 | Bagginsww | and the mounts we curently have say, works only in Outland |
| 03:20.01 | Lukian | Yeah I was thinking about that tagline |
| 03:20.26 | Lukian | But, 2k gold for a cenarion hippogryph mount and engineering mounts say otherwise |
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| 03:21.45 | Lukian | Allowing flying within a zone once you've "completed" it should be allowable |
| 03:26.05 | kd3 | I was of the impression that we were going to be able to complete a quest around 67 or so that lets us de-ice our flying mounts |
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| 03:26.18 | kd3 | 'course, that's still totally up in the air at this stage of the game |
| 03:28.39 | Lukian | kd3, yeah I'd expect them to do something like that too |
| 03:28.58 | kd3 | s/67/77/ |
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| 04:39.30 | Zeal | Baggins, read luke johnson's interview about dark factions? |
| 04:39.43 | Zeal | * Bagginsww |
| 04:39.51 | Zeal | and yay for upgrade today |
| 04:40.23 | Sky2042 | tomorrow |
| 04:40.30 | Sky2042 | depending on location...: |
| 04:40.31 | Sky2042 | :p |
| 04:41.22 | Zeal | today for me :P |
| 04:41.33 | Zeal | and UTC ;) |
| 04:43.29 | snafoo | Anyone know if Warcraft 3 runs well under wine? |
| 04:45.49 | Zeal | "...the Warcraft world of your home roleplaying game isn't tied to the "real" Warcraft world with which we are all familiar, so players can alter the world however they like. They can play a group of tauren paladins, topple Stormwind, or watch angels descend from the sky." - Luke Johnson |
| 04:45.58 | Zeal | didn't think my opinion of him could get much lower. |
| 04:46.52 | Sky2042 | Zeal: LOL! |
| 04:49.03 | Zeal | "So, as writers, we started making up stuff. That's what we generally get paid to do, after all." :p |
| 04:49.26 | Zeal | sounds worse on it's own, but in context not so bad. |
| 04:50.16 | Zeal | "However, Blizzard didn't feel comfortable allowing a third party, like us, to invent stuff about the Warcraft world." |
| 04:53.02 | Zeal | hm.. goes through the process and troubles they had dealing with content issues. |
| 04:55.40 | Zeal | no actually hint as to the current status od Dark Factions though : / |
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| 05:16.39 | Zeal | wtf am i doing watching american politics.. |
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| 05:38.52 | Zeal | hm.. why does luke johnson not have a page on ww : / |
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| 08:52.44 | Bagginsww | zeal, that line is pretty much the line you get in the intro to the WoWRPG core book |
| 08:53.06 | Bagginsww | in context |
| 08:53.07 | Zeal | hehe |
| 08:53.15 | Bagginsww | he isn't talking about lore per se |
| 08:53.21 | Bagginsww | more the way the game works |
| 08:53.33 | Bagginsww | I.E. it allows you to do more than you can in WoW |
| 08:53.36 | Bagginsww | its mroe realistic |
| 08:53.45 | Zeal | talking about lore as far as i can tell. |
| 08:54.01 | Zeal | was refering to their own custom stories too. |
| 08:54.10 | Bagginsww | link to interview? |
| 08:54.19 | Zeal | i sent it on aim to you :P |
| 08:54.44 | Bagginsww | ok ya I see it blinking |
| 08:55.41 | Zeal | stupid ff caching :/ |
| 08:55.42 | Bagginsww | anycase ya anycase ya johnson has always downplayed the RPG content. |
| 08:55.55 | Zeal | mhm |
| 08:56.22 | Bagginsww | I mean there are many times he's said we made it up, its not lore, whereas Magus will say you don't see it WoW cause of scale issues. |
| 08:56.31 | Fisker- | anycase anycase anycase anycase anycase anycase anycase anycase anycase anycase anycase anycase anycase anycase anycase anycase anycase anycase anycase anycase anycase anycase anycase anycase anycase anycase anycase anycase anycase anycase anycase anycase anycase anycase anycase anycase anycase anycase anycase anycase anycase anycase |
| 08:56.33 | Fisker- | hai Bagginsww |
| 08:56.43 | Bagginsww | I'm tired :p |
| 08:57.05 | Zeal | lol |
| 08:57.34 | Bagginsww | and you remember how I made him admit that "ya its my opinion" rather than coming form Blizzard |
| 09:00.42 | Bagginsww | well the next line where he says; |
| 09:00.43 | Bagginsww | to create a tabletop roleplaying game set in the hugely popular Warcraft world. |
| 09:01.02 | Bagginsww | so which is it Mr. Johnson it doesnt' take place in the Warcraft world, and it does? |
| 09:02.49 | Zeal | great, need to work around more mediawiki parser bugs :/ |
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| 09:11.05 | Zeal | bah, moz-border-radius fails at consistancy : / |
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| 09:29.56 | sannse | that deop is still too slow.... damn scripts... |
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| 10:18.14 | Bagginsww | If you catch people altering heights taken from official sources on pages, please revert them |
| 10:18.17 | Bagginsww | like on |
| 10:18.18 | Bagginsww | [[dryad]] |
| 10:18.19 | [NewsBot] | Bagginsww meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/dryad |
| 10:22.32 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Height someone want to put that in a table? |
| 10:22.49 | Bagginsww | something similar ot what we did for |
| 10:22.53 | Bagginsww | [[life span]] |
| 10:22.53 | [NewsBot] | Bagginsww meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/life_span |
| 10:23.10 | Bagginsww | [[lifespans]] |
| 10:23.10 | [NewsBot] | Bagginsww meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/lifespans |
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| 10:28.58 | Gourra | merging zonebox and npcbox to one single npcbox gives me a headache |
| 10:29.15 | Gourra | Bagginsww: I'll see |
| 10:29.37 | Bagginsww | also I think there is also a page for |
| 10:29.44 | Bagginsww | [[weight]] unless I never got around to it :p |
| 10:29.45 | [NewsBot] | Bagginsww meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/weight |
| 10:30.00 | Bagginsww | if not that's a future work :p |
| 10:31.30 | Gourra | "Quilboar never reach maximum age, they commit ritual suicide once they become, weak, elderly, crippled, or past child-bearing age." ouch |
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| 10:41.10 | Daworm | Quick Q: any wowwiki sysops on? |
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| 10:48.56 | Gourra | is there such a thing as male/female ancient protectors and mountain giants? |
| 10:49.04 | Gourra | are they genderless? |
| 10:49.37 | Fisker- | that's a silly question Daworm |
| 10:50.04 | Daworm | lol - I don't know the wowwiki sysops :P |
| 10:50.19 | Daworm | neways, wondering if any of you might be aware of wikinodes ? |
| 10:50.35 | Daworm | http://wikinodes.wiki.taoriver.net/moin.cgi/FrontPage |
| 10:51.04 | Daworm | planning on setting one up on aoc.wikia.com and would like it if wowwiki would consider being a "neighbour" on it. |
| 10:51.32 | Zeal | everyone except ChanServ server is a sysop on ww. |
| 10:51.39 | Zeal | *-server |
| 10:51.47 | Zeal | actually, i have no idea who Cairenn|afk is :s |
| 10:51.56 | Daworm | lol |
| 10:52.11 | Kalroth | I do! |
| 10:52.14 | Fisker- | me too! |
| 10:52.22 | Fisker- | I, Kalroth > Zeal |
| 10:55.12 | Zeal | erm.. wouldn't that really be something to talk to wikia about, no idea about the technical aspects, but i guess wikia could be a wikianode itself already. |
| 10:58.22 | Daworm | it's just a page you create |
| 10:58.30 | Daworm | @ wowwiki.com/WikiNode |
| 10:59.08 | Daworm | wikipedia's wikinode as an example. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiNode |
| 11:00.19 | Daworm | it's a self-created community thing. |
| 11:00.25 | Daworm | and looks like a lot of places have it. |
| 11:01.34 | Daworm | a wikia wiki with one : http://alicesoft.wikia.com/wiki/WikiNode |
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| 11:04.29 | Zeal | honestly, looks crap. (the entire wikia is a node itself already btw). it all looks manually done, essentially making it nothing more than a link exchange/web ring, which suck as well. personally i think it's a bad idea which is better left to admins doing it as they wish and showing stronger connections through inter-wiki links. |
| 11:04.33 | Zeal | but that's me. |
| 11:04.49 | Daworm | Yeah, which is why I asked. |
| 11:05.58 | Gourra | Bagginsww: http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Gourra/Sandbox/5 |
| 11:06.18 | Bagginsww | ok leave out the subtext stuff explaining averages |
| 11:06.26 | Bagginsww | that should be in the same format as the |
| 11:06.29 | Bagginsww | [[life spans]] |
| 11:06.30 | [NewsBot] | Bagginsww meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/life_spans |
| 11:06.41 | Gourra | ok |
| 11:07.06 | Bagginsww | and I think references should be footnotes too |
| 11:07.16 | Bagginsww | leading to "sources" |
| 11:07.20 | foxlit | I'd attach the WoW manual picture and flip the table 90 degrees |
| 11:07.24 | Bagginsww | other than its nice |
| 11:07.50 | Bagginsww | WoW manual picture also appearsin the rpg at least once I think |
| 11:08.12 | Bagginsww | minus draenei and blood elves |
| 11:08.16 | Bagginsww | older version |
| 11:08.41 | Gourra | see again |
| 11:08.58 | Gourra | I'll add source, give me a minute |
| 11:09.30 | Bagginsww | like I said citation panel would be best left out, and just make citations go to reflist at the bottom like was done with life spans |
| 11:09.46 | Bagginsww | we are trying to do way with citation |
| 11:09.54 | Bagginsww | and use reflist instead |
| 11:09.58 | foxlit | KD3: http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Template%3ATooltip&diff=1112042&oldid=1108381 -- was there a point? |
| 11:10.30 | Bagginsww | also perhaps its a bit wrong to call an ancient protector "male" |
| 11:10.35 | Bagginsww | we don't know if they come in males and females :p |
| 11:10.41 | Gourra | that's why I asked the question before |
| 11:10.51 | Bagginsww | maybe put them into seperate table |
| 11:10.52 | Zeal | yes there was if you read foxlit |
| 11:10.56 | Gourra | [11:48] <Gourra> is there such a thing as male/female ancient protectors and mountain giants? |
| 11:11.04 | Bagginsww | same with abominatin |
| 11:11.10 | foxlit | reading < me |
| 11:11.16 | Bagginsww | and mountain giants |
| 11:11.30 | Gourra | see above |
| 11:11.33 | Bagginsww | ya |
| 11:11.36 | Bagginsww | I'd say seperate table |
| 11:11.38 | Bagginsww | to avoid the problem |
| 11:11.41 | Gourra | ok |
| 11:11.50 | Bagginsww | at least with keepers and dryads its obvious |
| 11:12.49 | Bagginsww | hmm we could have an "average" section |
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| 11:12.54 | Bagginsww | not use the entire sentence |
| 11:12.56 | Bagginsww | just the number |
| 11:13.03 | Bagginsww | and footnote it to the sentence |
| 11:13.26 | Bagginsww | which would be handy for any race where we only know the average |
| 11:14.04 | Bagginsww | also you can do away with the "reference" section |
| 11:15.35 | Bagginsww | watch graffitti he might end up being a vandal, but not sure yet |
| 11:16.21 | Zeal | wtb <style> enabled on mediawiki.. |
| 11:16.48 | foxlit | <style> * {display: none} /* haha */ </style> |
| 11:17.30 | Zeal | hope you're not suggesting that's a reason not to have it. |
| 11:19.47 | foxlit | Duh; besides, some display: none stuff could be useful, but I could stuff it into my user stylesheet anyway |
| 11:23.41 | Zeal | it only effects the page it's on and someone could more easily just remove all content for the same effect. just simply revert. so no reason to not have it. reason it's needed is so sandboxes can implement more advanced formatting and not restort to the limited style attributes and later have to rewrite it all to transition it to a stylesheet. |
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| 11:26.47 | foxlit | It's marginally easier to clean up blanking, but it's not like that matters |
| 11:27.34 | Zeal | clean up yeah, but it's morel ikely you'd be reverting any edits that include blanking/display: none additions. |
| 11:28.59 | Zeal | disabling url() in css i can understand, but should be optional still, as we allow offsite image linking anyway which suffer from the same hazards. |
| 11:29.02 | foxlit | You're addressing the wrong problem - the link to history isn't there :P |
| 11:29.24 | Zeal | lol, indeed. |
| 11:29.29 | Zeal | didn't think about that. |
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| 11:36.03 | Bagginsww | goura much better |
| 11:36.16 | Bagginsww | although just replace note with "average" |
| 11:36.33 | Bagginsww | and its perfect |
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| 11:41.01 | Bagginsww | I'm going to move the table now |
| 11:42.14 | Bagginsww | I'll fix the template further when I have the time |
| 11:49.08 | Zeal | hm.. ff isn't respecting display: inline for content created via psuedo elements : / |
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| 11:50.53 | Zeal | or text-align: right |
| 11:50.55 | Zeal | ffs :/ |
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| 12:19.44 | Gourra | Bagginsww: http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Gourra/Sandbox/5 |
| 12:19.54 | Gourra | o. right you moved it already |
| 12:20.00 | Bagginsww | where did your average come from? |
| 12:20.08 | Bagginsww | I'd leave off fanmade numbers |
| 12:20.41 | Gourra | it came off calculation off the text |
| 12:21.15 | Bagginsww | oh, I'd personall try to avoid that. |
| 12:21.20 | Gourra | okay |
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| 12:21.40 | Bagginsww | I can get "ofifcial" averages for most things |
| 12:21.59 | Bagginsww | some you can find on the "image" |
| 12:22.03 | Bagginsww | in the wow manual |
| 12:22.25 | Gourra | heh, I find this pretty contradicting: |
| 12:22.27 | Gourra | "Orc; 220 - 3960 lb. (male), 180 - 3240 lb. (females).WoWRPG 174 Orcs males weigh in at 250 to 300 pounds.WoWRPG 45" |
| 12:22.43 | Bagginsww | and I wouldn't list all those under giants ;) |
| 12:22.47 | Bagginsww | abominaiton isn't a giant |
| 12:22.52 | Gourra | hm true |
| 12:22.57 | Gourra | oh well you got a better :p |
| 12:23.06 | Bagginsww | going to move that part though except for the giants bit |
| 12:26.10 | Gourra | I find some parts of the Abomination article funny |
| 12:26.13 | Gourra | "Racial Mount n/a (Some of their parts may be from mounts)" |
| 12:26.19 | Gourra | "Secondary Language(s) No others. Really, an abomination is lucky just to understand common." |
| 12:26.40 | Bagginsww | there may be an average for ogre I think |
| 12:26.43 | Bagginsww | lol ya |
| 12:26.50 | Bagginsww | well the not really part is official |
| 12:27.01 | Bagginsww | the some parts maybe be from mounts not so much |
| 12:27.15 | Bagginsww | language bit is from the rpg |
| 12:27.38 | Gourra | still it seems funny |
| 12:28.03 | Gourra | don't see why though there's {{racebox}} at the top..I mean, it's a race, but not one of those |
| 12:29.06 | Bagginsww | not one of what? |
| 12:29.10 | Bagginsww | its a race in the rpg |
| 12:29.26 | Bagginsww | oh I see not a race on the raxebox |
| 12:29.29 | Bagginsww | *race |
| 12:29.36 | Gourra | yes, that's what I meant |
| 12:29.47 | Bagginsww | remove that |
| 12:29.51 | Bagginsww | please |
| 12:29.54 | Bagginsww | not sure why its there :p |
| 12:30.03 | Bagginsww | probably someone getting a bit template happy |
| 12:30.25 | Bagginsww | and remove that "stitched horrors" bit |
| 12:30.32 | Bagginsww | I hate unofficial nicknames :p |
| 12:30.36 | Gourra | done |
| 12:30.58 | Bagginsww | if there is a unit called a stiched horror it has its own page anyways |
| 12:31.36 | Gourra | well there is one but it doesn't have an article in the wiki |
| 12:32.04 | Bagginsww | link to it :) |
| 12:32.22 | Gourra | http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=8543 |
| 12:32.35 | Gourra | making http://wowwiki.com/Stitched Horror soon |
| 12:32.43 | Bagginsww | heh heh |
| 12:32.48 | Gourra | Stitched_Horror |
| 12:34.38 | Gourra | I do wonder, though, how a female abomination would look like |
| 12:35.11 | Gourra | http://www.wowwiki.com/Stitched_Horror |
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| 12:48.20 | Gourra | hi / bye |
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| 12:56.38 | winkiller | APB hates me |
| 12:57.20 | winkiller | ah well, armory also |
| 12:57.23 | winkiller | so guess that's the reason |
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| 13:09.50 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Animated_object |
| 13:09.59 | Bagginsww | I felt Unholy Swords look better, :) |
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| 13:15.35 | Rprp | Is someone able to play WoW with WINE (Linux) with the lastest patch? |
| 13:16.20 | sacarasc | i should probably try that... |
| 13:16.32 | Rprp | NPCS + Other Chars wont show up :( |
| 13:16.39 | Rprp | Its like 'lagg' :/ |
| 13:17.01 | sacarasc | downloading the patch now |
| 13:20.10 | sacarasc | heh, it works for me, but you have left |
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| 13:20.29 | sacarasc | heh, it works for me |
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| 13:21.12 | Rprp | hmmm |
| 13:22.12 | sacarasc | using wine 0.9.40 (old, but compiling it gives me hassle ;p) |
| 13:22.42 | Rprp | Iam using .50 atm, Tried to delete Cache etc, But still not working :( |
| 13:28.38 | Rprp | Anyway, fixed it: http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=2342144235&sid=1&pageNo=2 |
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| 13:56.01 | Zeal | ffs.. why is ff being 'tarded... |
| 13:56.51 | sacarasc | firefox? final fantasy? fucking flamingoes? |
| 13:57.34 | Zeal | ff ofc |
| 13:57.40 | Zeal | er.. lol |
| 13:57.43 | Zeal | *firefox ofc |
| 13:59.47 | winkiller | what TZ is UTC? |
| 13:59.55 | pcj | GMT |
| 13:59.57 | Zeal | universal |
| 14:00.01 | winkiller | I mean.. atm |
| 14:00.03 | Zeal | so GMT w/o DST |
| 14:00.12 | winkiller | TOR's notice is still there |
| 14:00.12 | Zeal | oh, 14:00 pretty much |
| 14:00.13 | sacarasc | GMT doesn't have DST |
| 14:00.19 | Zeal | GMT does.. |
| 14:00.24 | pcj | winkiller it's there until you click hide |
| 14:00.24 | winkiller | shouldn't 13:00 UTC be gone already |
| 14:00.28 | sacarasc | no, the UK moves into BST |
| 14:00.32 | winkiller | doh |
| 14:00.35 | Zeal | BST? |
| 14:00.37 | winkiller | thanks :P |
| 14:00.46 | sacarasc | winkiller: yes, 1300 was an hour ago |
| 14:01.06 | winkiller | never ever saw that hide link |
| 14:01.12 | sacarasc | Zeal: GMT is the same all year round, the timezones each country uses changes, not the timezones themselves |
| 14:01.15 | winkiller | tunnelvision ftw |
| 14:02.11 | Zeal | well that seems rather superfluous |
| 14:02.17 | Zeal | should just move the timezone |
| 14:02.22 | sacarasc | why? |
| 14:02.25 | Zeal | amusing that i've never once heard of BST. |
| 14:02.46 | sacarasc | http://wwp.britishsummertime.co.uk/ |
| 14:03.05 | Zeal | no need to have two different timeszones and names when only 1 will ever be active at once. |
| 14:03.56 | sacarasc | other people base their time off of GMT |
| 14:04.02 | sacarasc | and don't have DST at all |
| 14:04.28 | Zeal | mhm |
| 14:04.31 | Zeal | but there's no need to |
| 14:04.55 | Zeal | because UTC doesn't observe any for of DST, so why double up? |
| 14:05.04 | Zeal | *form |
| 14:05.08 | pcj | yeah wtf winkiller |
| 14:05.11 | pcj | gg |
| 14:05.21 | Zeal | granted UTC existed afterwards |
| 14:05.26 | winkiller | ? |
| 14:05.32 | pcj | lol :P |
| 14:06.20 | pcj | zeal needs to go beat some people up in Greenwich I think since we can't do anything about it |
| 14:06.28 | Zeal | lol |
| 14:06.31 | winkiller | anyone from the zone cat project? |
| 14:06.43 | sacarasc | Zeal: so they should remove Zulu too? |
| 14:06.45 | Zeal | hour away by car, could do :p |
| 14:06.59 | Zeal | Zulu? |
| 14:07.19 | sacarasc | yeah, just what the US Military calls GMT/UTC |
| 14:07.24 | pcj | You're in the UK and you didn't know about BST? |
| 14:07.31 | Zeal | indeed pcj |
| 14:07.39 | pcj | *headdesk* |
| 14:08.02 | sacarasc | they don't teach about time zones in school like they should |
| 14:08.27 | pcj | !jobqueue |
| 14:08.30 | [NewsBot] | The www.wowwiki.com job queue length is currently 157 doing ~1 job/s, done in approx. 2mins 37secs. |
| 14:08.37 | pcj | slowwiki :( |
| 14:08.40 | Zeal | and also afaik, in computer languages, only a non-DST timezone is chosen, and DST is applied if/when needed, rather than timezones switching. which as with most logical advancements made in the move to digital, makes alot more sense. |
| 14:09.10 | Zeal | they didn't teach me english either sacarasc, explain why i have no faith in the education system? |
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| 14:11.05 | Zeal | taught me poetry and how to read a book, about it. most of what i know i learnt since leaving it. |
| 14:12.48 | sacarasc | english at school taught me that i didn't care if i was entered for the exam or not as long as i didn't have to do any work |
| 14:13.23 | Zeal | hm.. so why the hell does ff fail? got a <div> being targeted applying an after pseudo element, yet it's adding the content inside the <div> at the end. |
| 14:14.19 | pcj | where zeal |
| 14:15.09 | Zeal | this is mediawiki, really think i'd have a link to provide an example of such a style definition? :p |
| 14:15.44 | Zeal | http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Zeal/Sandbox/Templates/quote with http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Zeal/wowwiki.css if you fancy extrapolating it. |
| 14:16.36 | pcj | well it's being slowwiki for me anyway |
| 14:17.12 | Zeal | fine for me :S |
| 14:18.41 | Zeal | mm... the simple things in life. tomato ketchup & butter sandwhich. |
| 14:21.06 | pcj | *vomit* |
| 14:21.12 | Zeal | lol |
| 14:21.29 | sacarasc | i have all the ingredients for one of them |
| 14:21.31 | sacarasc | except the bread |
| 14:21.34 | sacarasc | and the butter |
| 14:21.46 | pcj | so...you have ketchup? |
| 14:21.51 | sacarasc | yeah |
| 14:21.56 | Zeal | hehe |
| 14:22.04 | pcj | just suck it out of the bottle, it'll be almost as good |
| 14:22.34 | sacarasc | ketchup, pasta, salt, chili powder and curry powder is the extent of the food in my kitchen currently |
| 14:22.55 | pcj | well...you could have spaghetti with a very weird sauce |
| 14:23.41 | sacarasc | nah, gonna go grocery shopping when the workmen replacing doors in my building have finished with my one |
| 14:23.46 | Zeal | needs more cheese |
| 14:24.10 | sacarasc | everything needs more cheese |
| 14:24.29 | sacarasc | as long as it's good cheese |
| 14:25.20 | Zeal | ah, great minds think alike no? |
| 14:25.47 | sacarasc | but fools seldom differ |
| 14:25.53 | Zeal | XD |
| 14:26.10 | sacarasc | i know i could fit into either category... |
| 14:33.31 | Zeal | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Zeal/Sandbox#After_test <-- simpler test case |
| 14:33.34 | Zeal | still fails |
| 14:36.31 | Zeal | woah... that's weird funky stuff.. why the hell is ww converting a <pre> containing html back to html when javascript loads? : / |
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| 14:38.01 | Zeal | ok, even weirder, it's not converting, it's simply changing it to the output of displayed below it : / |
| 14:38.06 | Zeal | so it doubles up |
| 14:38.08 | Zeal | wtf. |
| 14:38.39 | Zeal | not even the pre.. |
| 14:38.45 | Zeal | it's just adding it for no reason.. |
| 14:39.32 | Zeal | okay.. it's even adding page elements that no longer exist. @_@ |
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| 14:39.39 | sacarasc | :o |
| 14:39.45 | sacarasc | lolborkt |
| 14:40.47 | Zeal | only when editing the page |
| 14:41.29 | Zeal | now that i've submitted, it's working fine, even with new edits |
| 14:41.36 | Zeal | i think i'll blame firefox. |
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| 14:43.54 | Zeal | nope, doing it again |
| 14:44.03 | Zeal | fine in ie7 |
| 14:44.08 | Zeal | so it's firefox being crap |
| 14:44.13 | pcj | sounds to me like user error |
| 14:45.23 | Zeal | don't see how |
| 14:45.30 | Zeal | i've no scripts running on ff |
| 14:46.16 | Zeal | anyways, that link should now provide all thats needed to show that firefox is implementing ::after wrong there. |
| 14:46.29 | ltcolumbo | pcj: pebkac |
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| 14:51.26 | Zeal | further testing. First edit, preview it, all is fine. after that, all subsequent previews revert back to the first preview when javascript is loaded (edit box remains fine). |
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| 14:56.33 | sacarasc | hmmm, that WotLK maybe selling enchants through AH would be cool... |
| 15:06.34 | winkiller | slowwiki again |
| 15:11.32 | Zeal | the only time ::after should insert inside the selected element is if it's has display: run-in or display: compact (ridiculous idea imo, should add ::start and ::end for that in all cases), which a div has neither. therefore firefox is doing it wrong. |
| 15:18.54 | Zeal | i hate how i can never find results on firefox in relations to it's bugs.. |
| 15:19.09 | Zeal | does google no crawl bugzilla? :S |
| 15:19.13 | Zeal | *not |
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| 15:26.34 | Zeal | hah, it's also using display: inline for <p> elements, when the css spec says it should be inheriting from <p>, which would be display: block |
| 15:28.41 | Zeal | oh, and also that issues i'm having with firefox and previewing edits also counts for saving edits, if i make a preview, i can't save an edit (same url, action=submit) and it just does a preview that reverts back to the last preview when js loads. seems some sort of retroactive screwed up selective caching. so glad i don't use firefox. |
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| 15:34.22 | Zeal | things like this which reminds me why microsoft remain reluctant to fully support css 2, still incomplete and newer specs keep changing it's future. |
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| 15:39.49 | Zeal | hm.. applies to pretty much all elements. firefox inserts content generated by ::after and ::before inside at the end and start of the element respectively. according to css 2.1 spec, that's wrong. should be outside the element, inheriting the display type of the element. |
| 15:40.12 | Zeal | think only opera does it right. |
| 15:41.21 | Zeal | nope, opera is wrong too. wtf. |
| 15:43.40 | Zeal | w3c really need to double check their wording.. *sigh* "As their names indicate, the :before and :after pseudo-elements specify the location of content before and after an element's document tree content." |
| 15:44.10 | Zeal | elsewhere it's simply the element (and it msot documentation external to the w3c) |
| 15:44.14 | Zeal | *in most |
| 15:47.17 | Zeal | but the inheritence of display: should still be from the element according to the spec, for which no browser is doing correctly, they're simply using display: inline all the time. |
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| 15:48.25 | Zeal | oh wait.. that's not an inheritable property is it.. ffs.. wording and bad examples ftl. |
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| 16:18.33 | winkiller | hm, does this look alright? http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Contributions/Chaosbull |
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| 16:18.40 | winkiller | he only has huge -xxx edits |
| 16:18.48 | winkiller | but *maybe* only cleaned old guilds |
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| 16:21.38 | Zeal | dunno for sure, but if guild's aren't reverting his removals, guess it's fine. |
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| 16:43.39 | pcj | ~seen Kirkburn |
| 16:43.43 | infobot | kirkburn <n=Kirkburn@84-45-141-44.no-dns-yet.enta.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowwiki, 2d 17h 1m 9s ago, saying: 'See you all in Chicago!'. |
| 16:49.39 | Fisker- | :O? |
| 16:49.43 | Fisker- | what's he doing in chicago? |
| 16:50.56 | sacarasc | goint to see DuTempete or something |
| 16:59.45 | Rprp | Are the quests bugged? |
| 16:59.54 | Rprp | It wont track a quest when i kill or something |
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| 17:03.14 | Zeal | noo, read only mode :( |
| 17:04.40 | pcj | nooooooooooooooo |
| 17:05.01 | pcj | !wwstats |
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| 17:07.40 | Zeal | PanSola is Kirkburn? :o |
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| 17:10.01 | pcj | no... |
| 17:10.09 | Zeal | newsbot thinks so |
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| 17:20.55 | winkiller | mhm, db locked? |
| 17:20.58 | winkiller | AND my irc client crashed |
| 17:21.00 | winkiller | weird |
| 17:21.01 | pcj | wow good call |
| 17:43.20 | Zeal | bah, session losses again :/ |
| 17:43.47 | Zeal | ffs.. |
| 17:44.06 | Zeal | logging in an out didn't help once again.. |
| 17:44.10 | Zeal | lame wiki is lame. |
| 17:49.10 | Zeal | bbl |
| 17:56.11 | pcj | wiki's up |
| 17:57.41 | zeal | mhm |
| 17:58.12 | zeal | http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Zeal/Sandbox/Templates/quote done for now, appreciate some feedback on possible alternative styling. |
| 17:58.50 | pcj | Maybe ditch the closing quote on multiple line quotes |
| 17:59.22 | pcj | idk, should be ok |
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| 18:03.29 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Template_talk:GNR Opinions? |
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| 18:08.13 | Fisker- | lol Bagginsww |
| 18:08.15 | Cairenn|afk | zeal |
| 18:08.20 | Cairenn|afk | ~cairenn |
| 18:08.21 | infobot | from memory, cairenn is one of the administrators of WoWInterface, also EQI, EQ2I, LotROI and VGI |
| 18:08.48 | Fisker- | oh u |
| 18:10.02 | zeal | no offense, that means nothing to me. more wondering who you are on ww and why you're oped :p |
| 18:10.31 | pcj | because cairenn's better than you |
| 18:10.39 | kd3 | all hail |
| 18:11.00 | zeal | pcj, i was thinking of trying out dropping the border+background, and perhaps seperating the cite, that way the quotes would have more meaning, but i'll leave it until tomorrow now. |
| 18:27.33 | Bagginsww | mag'halar is that a mispelling and can we delete it? |
| 18:27.43 | Adys | Nah |
| 18:27.52 | Adys | its one of those blizzard misspellings |
| 18:28.02 | Bagginsww | hmm |
| 18:28.06 | Adys | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=32729 |
| 18:28.28 | Bagginsww | maybe not a mispelling and means something else? |
| 18:28.46 | Adys | doubt it :P |
| 18:28.47 | Bagginsww | alot of orcish terms sound the same :p |
| 18:28.56 | Adys | its on one of the maghar orcs |
| 18:29.12 | Bagginsww | ahh |
| 18:30.20 | Bagginsww | adys if the character isn't in game and that's all we know about him then it really shouldnt' be stubbed |
| 18:30.38 | Adys | i dont know if thats all we know about him |
| 18:30.42 | Adys | thats why i stubbed him |
| 18:30.43 | Bagginsww | perhaps add the {{WoW} template instead |
| 18:30.53 | Adys | feel free to check that out |
| 18:31.28 | Bagginsww | I'm pretty sure it was a one sentence reference in the game, last time I did the quests |
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| 18:32.41 | Bagginsww | sort of like Bubber Glump's sister. |
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| 18:59.52 | Zeal | nn all |
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| 19:01.08 | pcj | hi Keolah :) |
| 19:05.05 | Keolah | hi |
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| 19:19.04 | Taurmindo | how did that fanfic namespace idea ever turn out? |
| 19:19.29 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Worgen_%28language%29 someone want to put the autohide on that, :p |
| 19:19.38 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Tuskarr_%28language%29 and that, : |
| 19:21.00 | Bagginsww | and any other languages where the template is larger than the page information :p |
| 19:21.07 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Nerglish there too :p |
| 19:21.36 | Bagginsww | almost any language on the green section probably need to have the templates hidden. |
| 19:24.11 | Taurmindo | nerdlish? :P |
| 19:25.00 | Bagginsww | Nerglish |
| 19:29.02 | Bagginsww | anyone want to type up the quotes from the introduction movies? |
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| 19:29.08 | Bagginsww | in wow |
| 19:29.13 | Bagginsww | if they aren't already up somewhere? |
| 19:33.53 | Taurmindo | i still haven't watched tbc introduction video. ^^ |
| 19:40.51 | Taurmindo | silly, illidan doesn't have to move his mouth when talking? |
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| 20:34.23 | Bagginsww | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:35.28 | Bagginsww | interesting theory there are two bear trees right? |
| 20:35.53 | Bagginsww | and its said at least for one of them that their appearance is strange, they have grown from nowhere. |
| 20:36.05 | Bagginsww | what if they are ursoc and ursol regenerating into the world? |
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| 20:41.57 | Gourra | Bagginsww: bear trees? |
| 20:42.18 | Bagginsww | bough of the eternal and oracle glade |
| 20:42.33 | Keolah | What about the bank in Darnassus!? :p |
| 20:43.07 | Gourra | bough of the eternal = bank in darnassus |
| 20:43.29 | Keolah | It has a name? :P Where the hell does it say that? :P |
| 20:43.45 | Gourra | http://www.wowwiki.com/Darnassus#Points_of_Interest |
| 20:44.30 | Keolah | No, I mean, where does it actually _say_ that :p |
| 20:45.15 | Bagginsww | in a quest |
| 20:45.23 | Bagginsww | and if you talk to one of the guards |
| 20:45.28 | ralfWORK | wow |
| 20:45.36 | Gourra | http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?wquest=1479 |
| 20:46.02 | Bagginsww | yes the term Eternals is something Metzen invented |
| 20:46.03 | Gourra | hum http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:The_Bough_of_the_Eternals need to be remade |
| 20:46.03 | Bagginsww | not the RPG |
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| 20:49.08 | Bagginsww | but ya |
| 20:49.11 | Bagginsww | [[Oracle Glade]] |
| 20:49.12 | [NewsBot] | Bagginsww meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Oracle_Glade |
| 20:49.23 | Bagginsww | if the tree appeared mysteriously, what if it is ursoc or ursol? |
| 20:49.58 | Keolah | So, bear gods guarding the night elves' money? :p |
| 20:50.52 | Bagginsww | well night elfs carved the bank :p |
| 20:51.09 | Bagginsww | oops they killed poor ursoc before he was reborn :p |
| 20:51.29 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Zootfizzle shouldn't that been on some kind of namespace? |
| 20:51.42 | Bagginsww | I mean what's the point of a "forum poster" article |
| 20:53.00 | pcj | i have no idea baggins |
| 20:53.02 | pcj | i hate them |
| 20:53.11 | pcj | but adys keeps making them |
| 20:54.00 | Adys | where else do you want to have a list of blizzard employees? |
| 20:54.10 | pcj | They could be all on one page |
| 20:54.36 | Adys | will see |
| 20:54.48 | pcj | Yeah, I bet |
| 20:55.25 | Adys | Mind if i dont exactly care about it right now? thanks |
| 20:58.39 | Gourra | http://www.wowwiki.com/Blizzard_forum_poster |
| 20:59.23 | pcj | Oh wow, they are |
| 20:59.49 | Gourra | well that's what the link on the article is for |
| 21:00.22 | Gourra | to be honest it would be interesting to read about a CM/blizzard poster you see around |
| 21:00.32 | pcj | Yeah, if the articles actually had content |
| 21:01.49 | Gourra | true..but the list doesn't look good with red links :( |
| 21:01.56 | pcj | Well, no links then |
| 21:03.06 | pcj | ~seen DuTempete |
| 21:03.08 | infobot | dutempete <i=chatzill@c-67-175-19-72.hsd1.il.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowwiki, 1d 16h 22m 50s ago, saying: 'bagginsw sorta'. |
| 21:13.11 | Bagginsww | I find that blizzard forum articles generally lead to hatred and foulness towards the poster |
| 21:13.20 | Bagginsww | anytme someone has an arguement with one :p |
| 21:13.25 | Bagginsww | and then we have to clean up the mess |
| 21:13.33 | Bagginsww | to make it neutral again |
| 21:13.45 | kd3 | only against kalgan iirc |
| 21:13.46 | Gourra | Tseric, anyone? |
| 21:13.51 | kd3 | and tseric too, ya |
| 21:14.16 | Bagginsww | I think it would just make it easier if we had them in a namespace though |
| 21:14.19 | pcj | yay squid died |
| 21:14.24 | pcj | there we go |
| 21:14.29 | Bagginsww | squid? |
| 21:14.39 | Bagginsww | another poster? |
| 21:14.44 | pcj | SQUID |
| 21:14.46 | pcj | as in cache :P |
| 21:14.50 | kd3 | the cache between us and the server itself |
| 21:14.52 | pcj | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squid_cache |
| 21:16.38 | foxlit | Not that you actually trip it when logged in |
| 21:17.05 | pcj | The wiki seems to complain a lot about the cache in any case |
| 21:18.23 | pcj | http://www.wowwiki.com/Spirit_Bond#Uses |
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| 21:18.40 | pcj | !sup |
| 21:18.40 | Foxbot | There are currently 0 queued operations. |
| 21:18.57 | pcj | !editcount Pcj |
| 21:19.04 | pcj | !trcount Template:Item |
| 21:19.13 | Gourra | heh, nice one pcj |
| 21:20.47 | pcj | !jobqueue |
| 21:20.48 | [NewsBot] | The www.wowwiki.com job queue length is currently 3835 doing ~1 job/s, done in approx. 1hr 3mins 55secs. |
| 21:23.56 | Bagginsww | ahh |
| 21:24.10 | pcj | foxlit: http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=A_Mangled_Journal&curid=42664&diff=1115669&oldid=1107495 got the quest name wrong |
| 21:24.29 | foxlit | No, it supplied the quest ID |
| 21:24.42 | pcj | Well, the tooltip links to that quest |
| 21:24.45 | pcj | Look at the tooltip |
| 21:24.49 | foxlit | Too bad for the tooltip |
| 21:25.01 | Bagginsww | so zootfizzle posts on his own page |
| 21:25.10 | kd3 | a few others have posted on their own page too |
| 21:26.20 | foxlit | I only get a quest ID and no armory way to look it up |
| 21:27.45 | Gourra | http://www.wowwiki.com/A_Mangled_Journal tooltip fix'd |
| 21:28.05 | pcj | Foxlit, doesn't the bot fill out the source section fine tho? |
| 21:28.25 | foxlit | Yes, but you can't predict one from the other |
| 21:28.43 | pcj | Well, your bot fails then |
| 21:30.03 | Adys | http://blogoscoped.com/archive/2008-01-09.html#n87 |
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| 21:30.43 | pcj | reason #869 why France sucks |
| 21:34.29 | pcj | haha pwned foxlit http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Choking_Band&curid=91586&diff=1115712&oldid=1105774 |
| 21:35.10 | foxlit | fun |
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| 21:36.52 | Bagginsww | slowwiki again |
| 21:37.08 | Bagginsww | someone want to split talk:Future_race_ideas |
| 21:37.23 | Bagginsww | and make a new archive |
| 21:45.50 | Gourra | on it Bagginsww |
| 21:47.08 | Gourra | done |
| 21:50.37 | pcj | foxlit: could you make foxbot use {{mob}} when an item is dropping from something? |
| 21:50.45 | Bagginsww | Those archive pages get long enough and we'll need to archive the archives :p |
| 21:50.49 | Bagginsww | Archive set 1 |
| 21:50.52 | Bagginsww | archive set 2 |
| 21:50.53 | Bagginsww | lol |
| 21:51.09 | Gourra | hehe |
| 21:55.54 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Future_race_ideas#Pandarens_section_regarding_trolls and some people are just clueless |
| 21:56.05 | Bagginsww | this isn't Ace Attourney |
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| 22:07.35 | Fisker- | So |Pixel| if i say a random character name can you nod or shake your head? :P |
| 22:07.45 | |Pixel| | err |
| 22:07.52 | |Pixel| | I can always nod'n'shake |
| 22:08.05 | Adys | or you can do either but not tell him. |
| 22:08.07 | Fisker- | but it wouldn't nessecarily reflect the truth? :P |
| 22:08.21 | |Pixel| | I don't even know what you're jabbering about |
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| 22:23.47 | Bagginsww | Malygos is known as the Steward of Magic of the Spell-Weaver. |
| 22:23.55 | Bagginsww | something tells me they ment to put an "or" instead of an of |
| 22:24.09 | Bagginsww | cause if they meant an of that's the most lengthy title evah |
| 22:25.44 | Gourra | yeah..probably 'or' |
| 22:26.06 | Gourra | then who would "the spell-weaver" be in that case |
| 22:26.10 | Gourra | if it was 'of' |
| 22:30.20 | Bagginsww | lol |
| 22:30.41 | Bagginsww | although one should check to see if that isnt' a typo |
| 22:30.49 | Bagginsww | by the person who adapted it |
| 22:30.52 | Gourra | maybe some other higher power? |
| 22:30.54 | Gourra | hmmmmm |
| 22:32.21 | Gourra | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=5860 |
| 22:32.23 | Gourra | page 7 |
| 22:32.29 | Gourra | "Malygos is known as the Steward of Magic or the Spell-Weaver. " |
| 22:33.40 | Bagginsww | so a typo |
| 22:34.17 | Gourra | yes. corrected now |
| 22:34.37 | Bagginsww | good thing |
| 22:34.42 | Bagginsww | I thought it sounded off, LOL |
| 22:34.48 | Gourra | hehe |
| 22:35.01 | Gourra | steward of magic of himself..hmm |
| 22:35.10 | Bagginsww | lol |
| 22:35.59 | Bagginsww | multiverse, one supposes that's another name for the twisting nether or great dark? |
| 22:36.30 | Bagginsww | He spends his days studying |
| 22:36.30 | Bagginsww | magic, refining his abilities, and studying the various |
| 22:36.30 | Bagginsww | planes of the multiverse both remotely and in person, |
| 22:36.30 | Bagginsww | while his few remaining children scour the world for |
| 22:36.30 | Bagginsww | ancient artifacts and repositories of arcane power |
| 22:36.38 | Bagginsww | in reference to malygos |
| 22:37.10 | Gourra | http://www.wowwiki.com/Blue_Dragonflight#Society |
| 22:37.23 | Gourra | "While he is not revered as a god, for blue dragons see no godhood in scientific fact, he is considered the greatest scientific mind ever to have existed in the multiverse - or, at least, his flight considers him so." |
| 22:37.38 | Gourra | reference to MoM |
| 22:38.00 | Bagginsww | my reference was in the Shadows & Light |
| 22:38.06 | Gourra | oh. right |
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| 22:38.34 | Bagginsww | another reference to multiverse is made in al'akir's article |
| 22:38.39 | Bagginsww | in S&L |
| 22:38.47 | Gourra | elemental plane? |
| 22:38.50 | Gourra | maybe |
| 22:38.54 | Bagginsww | nah that's one plane |
| 22:38.59 | Bagginsww | multiverse means eveyrthing |
| 22:39.08 | Gourra | ah..so all planes |
| 22:39.10 | Bagginsww | so that's either twisting nether or the great dark |
| 22:39.23 | Bagginsww | since all planes exist in one or both of those |
| 22:41.59 | Bagginsww | http://www.sq7.org/KQ/index.php/Multiverse |
| 22:42.34 | Gourra | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiverse |
| 22:44.25 | foxlit | A lot of the dragon quotes need context |
| 22:44.36 | foxlit | "The other races may see no reason to ally themselves with ones who'd almost as much as the Burning Legion prefer to see them all wiped out. We're talking centuries of enmity, Krasus." what who why where? |
| 22:44.42 | Bagginsww | Multiverse if you took its original DnD definition would likely contain all fantasy universes, LOL |
| 22:44.42 | sacarasc | dragons taste like cheese |
| 22:44.48 | sacarasc | though slightly beefy |
| 22:46.36 | Gourra | foxlit: sounds like one of the War of the Ancients book quotes |
| 22:46.59 | foxlit | the "ones who'd almost as much as the Burning Legion prefer to see them all wiped out" part is rather unclear |
| 22:48.31 | Gourra | I'll try and dig through the books |
| 22:49.20 | Gourra | and _try_ because they are crap long and 3 of them |
| 22:49.27 | foxlit | :) |
| 22:50.00 | Bagginsww | so talking to elven one of the head people at king's quest omnipedia, he's all for moving the database over |
| 22:50.02 | Bagginsww | to wikia |
| 22:50.20 | Bagginsww | He's also one of the people that's got control at the server level |
| 22:50.58 | Gourra | gnight |
| 22:52.04 | Bagginsww | ahh sweet my screennick apparently transfered to wikia without a hitch |
| 22:52.18 | Bagginsww | I can log into any wikia :) |
| 22:53.59 | Bagginsww | http://thief.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page yay another wikia I could build from the ground up |
| 22:54.19 | Bagginsww | Major thief fan |
| 22:55.18 | Bagginsww | http://thief.wikia.com/wiki/TG_resources_in_game_text#M2ANTS oh cool all the ingame books |
| 22:56.13 | Bagginsww | at least for the first game so far |
| 23:04.46 | pcj | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#In-game_books_and_styling |
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| 23:10.06 | Bagginsww | http://requests.wikia.com/wiki/Kq |
| 23:10.07 | Bagginsww | pcj |
| 23:10.10 | Bagginsww | if your interestd |
| 23:10.11 | pcj | nice baggins |
| 23:10.18 | pcj | http://www.wowwiki.com/Impairing_Poison |
| 23:10.25 | pcj | #REDIRECT would've worked so much better |
| 23:10.25 | pcj | lol |
| 23:11.00 | Sky2042 | isn't it an ability? |
| 23:11.02 | Sky2042 | :\ |
| 23:11.20 | pcj | heh\ |
| 23:11.28 | pcj | But there's no content on there at all |
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| 23:11.48 | Sky2042 | so stub it? |
| 23:12.10 | Sky2042 | it's not used in a tooltip, which means it's an ability. |
| 23:12.19 | Sky2042 | for our purposes |
| 23:13.25 | foxlit | I suspect Fandyllic isn't done yet? |
| 23:13.52 | pcj | I'd hope not |
| 23:14.13 | Sky2042 | foxlit: with what?... |
| 23:14.16 | pcj | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#In-game_books_and_styling |
| 23:14.20 | foxlit | that page |
| 23:14.45 | pcj | err |
| 23:14.45 | pcj | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#Converting_vertical_templates_to_horizontal_templates |
| 23:16.07 | winkiller | ah sky! very good |
| 23:16.37 | winkiller | about the zone project. is Category:Instance:Foo now deprecated or not? I found the project page a bit misleading |
| 23:17.01 | Sky2042 | winkiller: going to be. we've been killing off the zones first. |
| 23:18.14 | winkiller | aye ok, I might join if I'm on editing spree again |
| 23:18.40 | winkiller | but I still remember that all articled were specifically put into Cat:Instance:X not soo long ago |
| 23:18.47 | winkiller | decisions, decisions :D |
| 23:19.05 | Sky2042 | "not so long ago" was over a year and a half ago |
| 23:19.10 | Sky2042 | =_= |
| 23:19.40 | winkiller | yes |
| 23:20.06 | winkiller | maybe :) |
| 23:20.21 | Sky2042 | that's when the wiki had about 15k pages. not 50k xD |
| 23:20.26 | Sky2042 | if that many |
| 23:24.33 | winkiller | hehe |
| 23:24.41 | winkiller | 20.2.06 was my first edit |
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| 23:25.21 | pcj | hi kirkburn! |
| 23:25.23 | pcj | how's chicago |
| 23:25.50 | Kirkburn | Evening! |
| 23:25.54 | Kirkburn | Chicago is goood :) |
| 23:26.46 | pcj | DuTempete letting you sleep much? |
| 23:26.56 | Kirkburn | I'm not answering that question ... |
| 23:27.10 | Sky2042 | Lol! |
| 23:27.12 | Sky2042 | wimp. |
| 23:27.22 | Kirkburn | However, you may be pleased to know we just got moved to a new PC (yes, skillfully changing the subject there) |
| 23:27.37 | Sky2042 | Pathetic. |
| 23:27.38 | pcj | foxlit: |
| 23:27.41 | pcj | !item Windhawk Belt |
| 23:27.41 | Foxbot | Page generator crashed for [Windhawk Belt]. |
| 23:27.49 | Sky2042 | owned! |
| 23:27.49 | sacarasc | :o |
| 23:28.30 | Kirkburn | Any problems you can identify, I'll pass them on |
| 23:28.45 | Sky2042 | Kirkburn: huh? |
| 23:28.55 | foxlit | hah, long live circular dependencies! |
| 23:29.01 | Kirkburn | Like anything that might have come up in the server move |
| 23:30.41 | pcj | !editcount Pcj |
| 23:30.52 | pcj | Haven't seen anything yet Kirkburn |
| 23:31.00 | pcj | Though I'm not sure why they didn't upgrade the wiki when they moved it |
| 23:32.05 | Kirkburn | I think the system only just arrived, and doing two things at once would make it harder to identify problems |
| 23:32.15 | pcj | Hmm, yeah |
| 23:32.34 | Kirkburn | One job at a time :) |
| 23:32.43 | pcj | No one's used http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Criticism yet :( |
| 23:33.04 | Kirkburn | How ... disappointing |
| 23:33.14 | Kirkburn | Don't tell zeal |
| 23:34.07 | pcj | Well, you just pinged him |
| 23:34.15 | Kirkburn | zomg, really? :) |
| 23:34.21 | Kirkburn | How's server speed? |
| 23:34.37 | pcj | Better |
| 23:34.39 | bleeter | like a red rag to a bull.... |
| 23:34.43 | pcj | Of course yesterday was patch day |
| 23:35.29 | Sky2042 | server's feeling faster than before, either way =) |
| 23:35.31 | Kirkburn | It was?! |
| 23:35.35 | Kirkburn | 2.3.2? |
| 23:35.38 | pcj | Yeap |
| 23:35.50 | Kirkburn | Yay :) |
| 23:36.02 | Kirkburn | Now I just need a US version of WoW to play on here :P |
| 23:36.23 | Sky2042 | foxlit: vandal! |
| 23:36.31 | foxlit | score! |
| 23:37.36 | foxlit | Should automate VP archiving, anyway |
| 23:38.06 | pcj | mmm can't really tell which ones have been talked in more recently |
| 23:38.18 | pcj | especially not with fandy using PST in his sig instead of UTC like everyon else |
| 23:40.24 | bleeter | pcj: there you go, a simple ramble about something pointless :P |
| 23:40.24 | bleeter | *some pointless things |
| 23:40.24 | foxlit | ~botmail for foxlit fix WIT/WI require loop for data fetch |
| 23:40.24 | bleeter | hahaha.. pcj quit |
| 23:40.24 | foxlit | ~botmail for foxlit: fix WIT/WI require loop for data fetch |
| 23:40.24 | foxlit | qqinfobot! |
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| 23:42.50 | Kirkburn|afk | Does 2.3.3 really exist? |
| 23:43.00 | pcj | I doubt it |
| 23:43.04 | pcj | It was probably a typo |
| 23:44.07 | Kirkburn|afk | K, switching it |
| 23:45.39 | pcj | Yeah, only reference to it was Slouken fixing a bug by "2.3.3", nothing else |
| 23:48.32 | pcj | kirkburn are tooltips infoboxes for purposes of MOS |
| 23:49.25 | Kirkburn|afk | Yes, I guess so |
| 23:50.02 | pcj | OK |
| 23:51.27 | Kirkburn|afk | Added a line to the MOS saying so |