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| 00:24.50 | Gourra | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#Converting_vertical_templates_to_horizontal_templates, bottom |
| 00:26.28 | pcj | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#Converting_vertical_templates_to_horizontal_templates |
| 00:26.31 | pcj | hah |
| 00:26.54 | Bagginsw | sky can I be Bold, and delete some stupid templates. |
| 00:26.57 | Bagginsw | :p |
| 00:27.04 | Bagginsw | if bold is good ;) |
| 00:27.21 | Sky2042_afk | Bagginsw: what templates?... |
| 00:27.34 | Sky2042_afk | being bold as a sysop is bad. being bold as an editor is good |
| 00:27.35 | Bagginsw | PCJ knows the ones ;) |
| 00:27.38 | Sky2042_afk | :P |
| 00:27.44 | Bagginsw | no bold editors can be bad |
| 00:27.46 | Sky2042_afk | pcj: mmm? |
| 00:27.53 | pcj | start with {{tooltip}} imo baggins |
| 00:27.54 | Sky2042_afk | cough it up, hobbit. |
| 00:27.55 | Gourra | slowwiki |
| 00:28.05 | winkiller | indeed |
| 00:28.17 | Bagginsw | any verticle template put next to a npcbox :p' |
| 00:28.23 | Bagginsw | but ya all vandals are bold |
| 00:28.27 | Bagginsw | and are jsut editors |
| 00:28.29 | winkiller | Gourra: bored lately? a month ago you had hardly some edits, did you? :) |
| 00:28.39 | Gourra | ayep |
| 00:28.44 | kd3 | we should just requisition someone from wikia ops team to respond whenever we say "slowwiki" in here |
| 00:28.45 | Gourra | I've been busy |
| 00:28.53 | winkiller | hrhr |
| 00:29.08 | Gourra | also called "unemployed" |
| 00:29.21 | winkiller | ah, I see |
| 00:29.29 | pcj | get a bot imo kd3 |
| 00:29.31 | Sky2042_afk | kd3: yeah... really. |
| 00:29.40 | pcj | to push the "not being slow anymore" button when slowwiki is said |
| 00:29.51 | Gourra | hehe |
| 00:30.27 | winkiller | some day I'm gonna strangle Zeal for his made up sandbox categoried |
| 00:31.12 | winkiller | oh, we got winners again! |
| 00:31.13 | winkiller | Your server name US Guilds 2 members |
| 00:31.29 | kd3 | hey, that's fun. I've been rather productive in that state before |
| 00:31.52 | Bagginsw | and bold people tend to delete stuff they dont' understand |
| 00:31.57 | Bagginsw | and end up being wrong |
| 00:32.11 | Bagginsw | like the whole "Iolan"/"Lolan" thing yesterday. |
| 00:32.51 | Sky2042_afk | ol |
| 00:32.59 | Gourra | Reminds me of my paladin's name..people have a hard time understand why they can't add my paladin Ioladin to their friend's list |
| 00:33.09 | Bagginsw | lol |
| 00:33.20 | Gourra | I tell them "it's i not L" |
| 00:34.03 | Gourra | night people |
| 00:40.35 | winkiller | Sky2042_afk: I'd really suggest to get a bot soon or someone else will redo my edits |
| 00:40.44 | winkiller | as it is now, it's just stupif |
| 00:40.59 | winkiller | 1% of pages has the "new" schema and 99% are consistent |
| 00:43.03 | Sky2042_afk | who are you editing under?... |
| 00:43.09 | winkiller | Armagon |
| 00:43.19 | Sky2042_afk | gah |
| 00:43.34 | Sky2042_afk | Be patient with the zone / NPCs / mob type stuff. |
| 00:43.45 | winkiller | "winkiller" in big letters on User:Armagon :P |
| 00:43.46 | Sky2042_afk | as well as the sources of items. |
| 00:43.54 | Sky2042_afk | everything else was fine |
| 00:43.59 | winkiller | I don't like this system |
| 00:44.06 | winkiller | but nvm, I don't decide |
| 00:44.18 | Sky2042_afk | mmm? |
| 00:44.21 | winkiller | but having 1-3 in that system is stupid |
| 00:44.27 | winkiller | bot them all at once |
| 00:44.48 | winkiller | I did these category changes every few months |
| 00:44.51 | Sky2042_afk | people don't have the time to bot them all at once. |
| 00:44.58 | winkiller | killing all the 1 member cats |
| 00:45.33 | winkiller | and I really don't like [[xx mobs]], but whatever :P |
| 00:45.52 | winkiller | I won't touch categories again for a while |
| 00:45.55 | winkiller | :P |
| 00:46.11 | Bagginsw | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Lich_King#Lich_King_Arthas_classes_.28or_near-classes.29 |
| 00:46.32 | Sky2042_afk | did you manually change the cats? |
| 00:47.02 | winkiller | yeah sure |
| 00:53.28 | Bagginsw | I don't think he understand that just because a Blizzard employee makes up something outside of an official published product, it still doesn't make it an official product. |
| 00:53.48 | Bagginsw | juts because someone works for someone else doesn't necessarily mean its "offiical" |
| 00:54.49 | winkiller | is there some: show me all pages that use template X? |
| 00:57.23 | Sky2042_afk | [[Special:Whatlinkshere]] |
| 00:57.23 | [NewsBot] | Sky2042_afk meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Whatlinkshere |
| 00:57.32 | winkiller | ah thanks |
| 00:58.57 | Sky2042_afk | what template?... |
| 01:00.34 | Zeal | <+winkiller> some day I'm gonna strangle Zeal for his made up sandbox categoried <-- because of the naming? should probably learn to live with it, no harm and secluded. |
| 01:07.48 | winkiller | Zeal: I just click ALL of them when I'm tidying up categories. every time :P |
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| 01:17.21 | Zurr | the floating with {{tooltip}} isn't working right for disambigs outside the main namespace |
| 01:18.20 | pcj | that's generally not a problem |
| 01:29.24 | Zeal | care to give an example Zurr? |
| 01:30.25 | Zeal | nvm, found it |
| 01:30.39 | Zeal | and it's doing what is intended, floating left when not on a item's page. |
| 01:30.58 | Zeal | if you want it to float differently, use float= |
| 01:32.23 | Zeal | and you probably want to remove change "unique=Unique" to just "unique=" |
| 01:32.30 | Zeal | *-remove |
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| 01:37.39 | Zeal | :S |
| 01:38.55 | Zeal | brb, restarting |
| 01:44.50 | DuTempete | Helooooooooo! |
| 01:45.01 | DuTempete | (from Kirkburn as well) |
| 01:45.02 | Sky2042_afk | DuTempete: kb on the ground yet? |
| 01:45.04 | Sky2042_afk | cool! |
| 01:45.11 | Sky2042_afk | hihi kirkburn! |
| 01:45.12 | DuTempete | he's sitting next to me. |
| 01:45.36 | pcj | hi :) |
| 01:45.39 | DuTempete | (he's waiving) |
| 01:45.53 | kd3 | waiving what? his rights? |
| 01:46.19 | DuTempete | he did that in immigration |
| 01:46.27 | kd3 | I bet he did |
| 01:46.44 | Sky2042_afk | lol |
| 01:47.03 | Sky2042_afk | what, exactly, other than visiting you Du, is KB doing? |
| 01:47.17 | pcj | seeing Chicago, presumably |
| 01:47.32 | DuTempete | Sky, yuo're not very bright. |
| 01:47.46 | DuTempete | s/you/yuo/ |
| 01:47.47 | Sky2042_afk | DuTempete: oh, I am ;) |
| 01:48.06 | Sky2042_afk | DuTempete: I think seeing might have been more appropriate, but i was wondering if there was anything else?> |
| 01:48.35 | DuTempete | Well... whatever I show him, I suppose. |
| 01:48.41 | DuTempete | If I let him out of the house. |
| 01:48.47 | kd3 | oO; |
| 01:49.06 | Sky2042_afk | "whatever you show him", huh? |
| 01:49.10 | Sky2042_afk | :P |
| 01:54.26 | Sky2042_afk | Zurr: use |disambigpage= |
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| 02:13.46 | Sky2042_afk | gah |
| 02:14.02 | Sky2042_afk | it looks to me like {{{mode}}} broke disambig page in the user space |
| 02:14.04 | Sky2042_afk | gg |
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| 02:14.30 | Zeal | ? |
| 02:14.59 | Sky2042_afk | on tooltip |
| 02:15.09 | Sky2042_afk | unles you can spot something I'm not. |
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| 02:19.32 | Zeal | don't see what would make you think it's {{{mode}}} |
| 02:20.44 | Sky2042_afk | well, it's either that or it's {{{arg}}} |
| 02:21.19 | Zeal | nope |
| 02:21.40 | Zeal | i'm editing his page without them |
| 02:21.45 | Zeal | why he has them i have no idea. |
| 02:22.08 | Zeal | but the {{PAGENAME}} apparently doesn't = {{PAGENAME}} |
| 02:22.11 | Zeal | which is amusing. |
| 02:22.54 | Zeal | thats using both {{{name}}} and {{{disambigpage}}} |
| 02:23.14 | Zeal | so even more "wtf!?"s |
| 02:32.27 | Zeal | welll i can't see why the check is failing |
| 02:32.30 | Zeal | meh |
| 02:40.49 | Sky2042_afk | The apostrophe, maybe? |
| 02:41.06 | Sky2042_afk | I'm not sure I've ever seen an item under the user namespace with an apostrophe in it's name. |
| 02:41.56 | Zeal | there are |
| 02:42.08 | Zeal | and that shouldn't be an issue. |
| 02:45.40 | Zeal | http://www.wowwiki.com/Skulker%27s_Greaves <- no problem |
| 02:47.39 | Zeal | reading instead of skimming would be an idea i guess.. lol. |
| 02:48.26 | Zeal | no idea if there's any in the user namespace, but as i said on the talk page, there is no checking of namespaces in tooltip, only the pagename, so it maks no difference what namespace it's in. |
| 02:50.23 | Zeal | also double checked with flavor={{PAGENAME}} to confirm what it's checking, and it's fine. just no idea how {{PAGENAME}}!={{PAGENAME}} |
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| 02:58.31 | Zeal | no wonder.. Zurr added disambigpage to the bottom just before i started testing.. |
| 02:58.35 | Zeal | no wonder i was seeing no change. |
| 03:03.17 | Zeal | Sky2042, change all {{PAGENAME}}s in {{tooltip}} with {{FULLPAGENAME}} plx ;) |
| 03:04.46 | Zeal | {{tooltip}} will also need to be rewritten in regard to those checks if an Item: namespace ever gets implemented. |
| 03:04.46 | [NewsBot] | Zeal meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:tooltip |
| 03:05.40 | Zeal | or jsut make every item page use disambigpage=Item:Name |
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| 03:08.08 | Sky2042 | Zeal: make sure to poke me |
| 03:08.11 | Sky2042 | ;) |
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| 03:08.26 | Sky2042 | I figured that was the issue. where's the line of code that needs fixing? |
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| 03:10.02 | Zeal | check {{tooltip/Dev}} |
| 03:11.07 | Sky2042 | or, let kd3 do it |
| 03:11.18 | kd3 | soon as I can get it to work |
| 03:11.25 | kd3 | check [[User:Kaydeethree/Sandbox'd]] |
| 03:11.26 | Zeal | :S |
| 03:11.33 | kd3 | and {{Tooltip/Dev2}} |
| 03:12.26 | Zeal | check your sandbox now ;) |
| 03:12.36 | Zeal | already added it to the dev tooltip. |
| 03:13.28 | kd3 | works for me. merging |
| 03:13.33 | solocommand | sup kd |
| 03:13.34 | solocommand | :P |
| 03:13.37 | kd3 | yo solo |
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| 03:15.09 | kd3 | !jobqueue |
| 03:15.11 | [NewsBot] | The www.wowwiki.com job queue length is currently 1579 doing ~1 job/s, done in approx. 26mins 19secs. |
| 03:16.21 | Zeal | :S |
| 03:16.25 | Zeal | bit low, lol. |
| 03:16.34 | kd3 | not once the page submits |
| 03:16.41 | kd3 | I hit save. just waiting now |
| 03:16.46 | Zeal | ah, lol |
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| 03:17.03 | Zeal | 20,107 now |
| 03:17.19 | kd3 | jesus... 18k tooltip transcludes? |
| 03:17.20 | Zeal | and climbing, lol |
| 03:18.30 | Zeal | keep in mind that pages using tooltip's new functionality are now also including it. |
| 03:19.04 | kd3 | !jobqueue |
| 03:19.08 | [NewsBot] | The www.wowwiki.com job queue length is currently 23787 doing ~1 job/s, done in approx. 0secs. |
| 03:20.36 | kd3 | oh wow. we just broke 160k registered users |
| 03:20.44 | Zeal | coolies |
| 03:21.04 | Zeal | oh, the second ep of the amg specials was released the other day btw. |
| 03:21.14 | Zeal | fansub that is. |
| 03:21.20 | kd3 | yup. got it and it's already archived |
| 03:21.33 | Zeal | hehe |
| 03:21.34 | kd3 | aria's finally aired. <3 |
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| 03:49.10 | Bagginsw | btw dutempete you missed out on our "porncraft" pictures yesterday. ...or rather what we like to call the scantily clad or newd official art. |
| 03:50.36 | Bagginsw | dutempete you around? |
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| 03:55.48 | Zeal | lol |
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| 04:40.18 | DuTempete | bagginsw sorta |
| 04:47.02 | pcj | she's busy with Kirkburn I imagine |
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| 06:11.20 | Sky2042 | !jobqueue |
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| 06:12.48 | Sky2042 | jesus |
| 06:12.54 | Sky2042 | I've deleted almost 1200 items |
| 06:12.56 | Sky2042 | o_o |
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| 06:40.21 | Zeal | why? |
| 06:40.36 | Sky2042 | a few unused images here and there. |
| 06:42.06 | Zeal | by "items" you didn't mean in-game items then i take it? :P |
| 06:42.43 | Sky2042 | no, lol |
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| 06:45.04 | Zeal | lol |
| 06:46.01 | Zeal | well rapidshare can go screw itself now, fed up with the transparent proxy lies with the bs script they use on free users only.. |
| 06:46.19 | Zeal | time to finish off my DoW:DC campaign. |
| 06:48.08 | Sky2042 | http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Simpsons_Merchandise lol |
| 07:00.27 | Sky2042 | ~wiki Brandon Sanderson |
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| 07:02.46 | Sky2042 | don't click that |
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| 09:40.27 | Bagginsw | Abbot of Northshire was that Faol? |
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| 10:06.54 | Gourra | Bagginsw: most likely |
| 10:06.55 | Gourra | http://www.wowwiki.com/Northshire_Abbey |
| 10:09.08 | Bagginsw | well abbots are usually lower than archbishops though |
| 10:09.25 | Bagginsw | so its confusing |
| 10:10.22 | Gourra | agreed, but most things are in the warcraft history, then there's our friend retcon |
| 10:11.07 | Bagginsw | well he could still be an Abbot in charg of the abbey, as much as the Archbishop is in charge of the whole area |
| 10:11.29 | Bagginsw | its stated that bishops are charge of towns, and archbiships in charge of districts |
| 10:11.37 | Bagginsw | abbot being in charge ofa church makes sense |
| 10:11.42 | Gourra | ah yes |
| 10:12.00 | Bagginsw | Scarlet Crusade have several abbots I think |
| 10:14.09 | Gourra | http://www.wowwiki.com/Scarlet_Crusade#Priestly_Branch |
| 10:14.54 | Bagginsw | there is a mob called Scarlet Abbot too I think |
| 10:16.15 | Gourra | http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=4303 |
| 10:20.33 | Bagginsw | why we don't have an article for that I don't know :p |
| 10:21.47 | Gourra | http://www.wowwiki.com/The_Scarlet_Monastery#The_Cathedral |
| 10:21.50 | Gourra | I'll make it sec |
| 10:22.07 | Bagginsw | http://www.wowwiki.com/Abbot |
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| 11:12.49 | Bagginsw | http://www.wowwiki.com/Halfling |
| 11:20.52 | Bagginsw | http://www.wowwiki.com/Halfling |
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| 11:51.05 | Gourra | http://www.wowwiki.com/First_Summertide_Assault |
| 11:51.12 | Gourra | source? |
| 11:52.02 | Bagginsw | one of those statues? |
| 11:52.10 | Bagginsw | in SM |
| 11:52.32 | Gourra | I'll go take a look later then |
| 11:53.10 | Bagginsw | in anycase it needs the proper {{ref game}} and {{reflist}} |
| 12:07.37 | Gourra | only reference is the plate in Herod's room: |
| 12:07.40 | Gourra | "Ferren Marcus" |
| 12:07.46 | Gourra | "High Abbot of the Scarlet Monastery" |
| 12:07.52 | Gourra | "Citizen of Stratholme" |
| 12:08.03 | Gourra | "Killed defending the Scarlet Monastery at the First Summertide Assault" |
| 12:08.22 | Igget | hey quick one - I'm new to wow so pardon me if this is a dumb question but how long are the servers down for? |
| 12:09.03 | Gourra | shouldn't it say when you start up wow? |
| 12:09.13 | Gourra | usually it's to 10 or 11 am |
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| 12:17.06 | Bagginsw | umm so I used amazon to read the pages on halflings in the DMZ and while I've been told they are like hobbits, the description makes them sound like hte opposite of hobbits :p |
| 12:17.23 | Bagginsw | PHB, rather, not DMG |
| 12:18.00 | Bagginsw | I mean PHB makes halflings sound like all of them are like Bilbo, Frodo and his friends. |
| 12:18.09 | Bagginsw | all adventurers and trouble makers :p |
| 12:18.26 | Bagginsw | whereas Tolkien's books explain that's actually quite uncommon |
| 12:18.34 | Bagginsw | most of the race is sensible farmer types |
| 12:18.50 | Bagginsw | which would rather not have too much excitement |
| 12:27.02 | Igget_ | Gourra: okay thanks |
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| 12:28.24 | Gourra | all these statues in herod's room make me wonder how big the scarlet crusade may have been at one point |
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| 12:38.24 | winkiller | well, LHC is full of 61 Elite crusaders suddenly with Naxx |
| 12:38.48 | winkiller | if they got more high ranked people than any major city.. go figure :P |
| 12:41.23 | sacarasc | the large hadron collider has level 61 elite crusaders in it? :o |
| 12:42.44 | sacarasc | guess that's why it won't be ready till may |
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| 14:11.08 | pcj | woo patch 2.3.2 finally |
| 14:11.21 | foxlit | qq, noes |
| 14:12.18 | foxlit | Idol nerf was unneeded :( |
| 14:15.28 | ralfWORK_ | oh yea? |
| 14:15.41 | ralfWORK_ | what big stuff does 2.3.2 bring? |
| 14:15.46 | ralfWORK_ | I can't remember |
| 14:15.57 | foxlit | nothing, really |
| 14:16.02 | foxlit | Bug/balance fixes. |
| 14:16.08 | ralfWORK_ | oh, nerfs |
| 14:16.09 | mxs | http://a.wirebrain.de/wow/notes/enUS/7741 and http://a.wirebrain.de/wow/notes/enUS/7741?diff=1 for the changes to first PTR, but nothing big :) |
| 14:16.09 | ralfWORK_ | ;) |
| 14:16.42 | foxlit | "Idol of the Unseen Moon: This item now has a 30 second cooldown on being triggered." = qq |
| 14:16.54 | ralfWORK_ | what was the old CD? or was there none? |
| 14:16.55 | foxlit | I mean, come on, the feral idol isn't subject to that timer |
| 14:17.01 | foxlit | There wasn't any |
| 14:17.20 | ralfWORK_ | I'm assumingthat's a Balance druid thing |
| 14:17.29 | foxlit | Yes. |
| 14:17.44 | ralfWORK_ | I'm also assuming you're a Balance druid ;) |
| 14:17.50 | Zeal | i love the DoW random sayings "Zeal is no excuse" :p |
| 14:18.00 | foxlit | Yes. |
| 14:18.18 | ralfWORK_ | are they nerfing pallys yet? |
| 14:18.39 | foxlit | I think there are changes as to what provides imporvements to their attacks |
| 14:18.53 | ralfWORK | doh! |
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| 14:19.00 | foxlit | Crusader Strike (Retribution) now causes 110% of weapon damage and no longer gains any bonus from spell damage. |
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| 14:19.25 | wired | hi |
| 14:20.10 | foxlit | Foresaw that since PTR, but still doesn't help when your best ranged slot item is a level 68 drop :( |
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| 14:21.37 | pcj | damn i'm gonna miss the next #wikia-gaming chat |
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| 14:22.22 | foxlit | What's that doing in our topic anyway? :) |
| 14:22.49 | ralfWORK | hrm that's an interesting Ret change |
| 14:22.58 | ralfWORK | sounds like a buff, but I don't know hat the old one was |
| 14:23.38 | foxlit | And they nerfed resto druids |
| 14:23.45 | ralfWORK | oh that nerf came? |
| 14:23.53 | ralfWORK | the Lifebloom change? |
| 14:23.57 | foxlit | yep |
| 14:24.11 | ralfWORK | should be interesting |
| 14:24.17 | Zeal | it's a reworking of the DPS part of palas basically, but as far as i know, it's a slight buff in the end, but will require some changes to your gear/gems etc. |
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| 14:24.27 | ralfWORK | right, right |
| 14:25.39 | foxlit | Ravage buff is odd |
| 14:25.52 | ralfWORK | not familiar with Ravage |
| 14:26.01 | ralfWORK | feral druid? |
| 14:26.03 | foxlit | Hrm, ambush |
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| 14:26.11 | foxlit | Damage multiplier on attack out of stealth |
| 14:26.35 | ralfWORK | k |
| 14:28.46 | ralfWORK | so we tried nightbane last night |
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| 14:30.48 | wired | nightbane is a bastard |
| 14:30.55 | ralfWORK | I'm glad we agree :) |
| 14:31.10 | wired | im usually main healer |
| 14:31.17 | ralfWORK | 1st flight phase basically wiped half the raid and both healers |
| 14:31.27 | ralfWORK | oh good |
| 14:31.29 | wired | people dont know to gather close when he starts flying |
| 14:31.37 | ralfWORK | hmm k |
| 14:31.51 | pcj | yeap |
| 14:32.05 | ralfWORK | how big is the area supposed to be? |
| 14:32.06 | wired | prayer of mending works wonders |
| 14:32.15 | ralfWORK | yes, prayer of mending always does ;) |
| 14:32.25 | ralfWORK | the smoking blast was... |
| 14:32.47 | wired | when the ground turns into lava, that means get out of it |
| 14:32.49 | ralfWORK | well I thought it was basically supposed to hit 1 target and keep hitting that target |
| 14:32.54 | wired | people like to just stand there and take dmg |
| 14:33.01 | ralfWORK | we were ok on the lava |
| 14:33.16 | ralfWORK | the smoking blast hit both of our healers |
| 14:33.20 | ralfWORK | and one time it hit a hunter |
| 14:33.27 | ralfWORK | so I was kinda WTF |
| 14:33.39 | wired | priest needs to put fear ward on tank |
| 14:33.55 | ralfWORK | lol I do appreciate all your comments, but none of that was an issue |
| 14:34.01 | wired | sorry |
| 14:34.02 | ralfWORK | tank needs to stance dance and not be a moron |
| 14:34.04 | wired | im venting myself |
| 14:34.07 | ralfWORK | lol ok |
| 14:34.18 | ralfWORK | I bitched the hell out of the tank |
| 14:34.22 | wired | i know nothing much about other classes other than priest |
| 14:34.23 | ralfWORK | "huh? stance dance?" |
| 14:34.33 | Zeal | nn all |
| 14:34.42 | ralfWORK | I'm a priest too; have healed it many moons ago in some random PUG |
| 14:34.44 | foxlit | morning, Zeal. |
| 14:34.48 | ralfWORK | but I'm shadow now |
| 14:34.55 | wired | i used to be shadow |
| 14:34.59 | wired | but i like being holy |
| 14:35.10 | wired | dont have to fight as much people for +healing cloth gear |
| 14:35.14 | ralfWORK | I like both; but leading the raids as Holy was just not working |
| 14:35.31 | wired | +spell dmg cloth gear is tough when you're with mages and locks as a shadow priest |
| 14:35.39 | ralfWORK | yea it can be |
| 14:35.46 | foxlit | You're on a different token, aren't you? |
| 14:35.51 | ralfWORK | I'm not worried about it really |
| 14:36.00 | foxlit | Besides, guilds that prioritize drops based on class are evil |
| 14:36.08 | wired | i like how +healing gives you 1/3 of that in spell dmg |
| 14:36.14 | ralfWORK | hah |
| 14:36.19 | ralfWORK | we don't prioritize |
| 14:36.23 | ralfWORK | which... can suck sometimes |
| 14:36.23 | wired | i can solo better now |
| 14:36.38 | kadrahil | guitar? |
| 14:36.45 | wired | my guild doesnt do raids yet, i go with other guilds |
| 14:36.48 | wired | no dkp |
| 14:36.54 | wired | whoever needs it the most gets it |
| 14:36.55 | kadrahil | donkey kong paint? |
| 14:36.58 | ralfWORK | like when the new prot pally who sucks bad won T4 helm over the rogue who's been there since day 1 |
| 14:37.01 | ralfWORK | but whatever |
| 14:37.14 | wired | that's different |
| 14:37.29 | ralfWORK | honestly |
| 14:37.35 | ralfWORK | if I had my way |
| 14:37.43 | wired | ralf what server you on? |
| 14:37.53 | ralfWORK | it would give loot based on smallest up |
| 14:38.08 | ralfWORK | the more you've worked on your gear, the more you should be rewarded |
| 14:38.12 | ralfWORK | not the other way around |
| 14:38.25 | wired | honestly |
| 14:38.28 | wired | i dont really care |
| 14:38.34 | ralfWORK | lol I don't either |
| 14:38.37 | wired | i just enjoy playing |
| 14:38.39 | ralfWORK | cause I got pretty much all my gear! |
| 14:38.41 | ralfWORK | AHAHHAHA |
| 14:38.47 | ralfWORK | getting my darkmoon fair card today, woot! |
| 14:38.56 | sacarasc | i has no gear ;( |
| 14:38.58 | ralfWORK | I'm Elune/A |
| 14:39.01 | wired | someone can ninja me but guess what, ill still go to bed with a smile on my face |
| 14:39.22 | wired | i do want to get an epic flying mount though |
| 14:39.25 | wired | bastards |
| 14:39.32 | wired | they need to lower costs |
| 14:39.33 | ralfWORK | I'm not worried about epic flying mount |
| 14:39.38 | Gourra | you can have one of mine |
| 14:39.40 | ralfWORK | I need my belt of blasting before that |
| 14:39.40 | pcj | !c us maelstrom dernham |
| 14:39.57 | wired | too bad you cant exchange gold via servers |
| 14:40.13 | wired | im on Llane server |
| 14:40.13 | Gourra | you can |
| 14:40.17 | Gourra | through char transfer |
| 14:40.18 | wired | east coast server |
| 14:40.32 | ralfWORK | so seriously, Smoking Blast |
| 14:40.35 | wired | i meant mail gold to someone on a different server |
| 14:40.38 | ralfWORK | anyone here understand the mechanics? |
| 14:41.33 | wired | i just thought it was an aoe type thing |
| 14:41.40 | wired | but if you stand there under it |
| 14:41.41 | ralfWORK | naw not Rain of Bones |
| 14:41.44 | ralfWORK | air phase |
| 14:41.47 | wired | you sometimes dont take dmg |
| 14:41.49 | ralfWORK | the thing that hits healers |
| 14:41.57 | wired | its the adds that get ya |
| 14:42.01 | ralfWORK | that has a fire DOT |
| 14:42.16 | wired | can you fear the adds? |
| 14:42.21 | ralfWORK | probably not |
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| 14:42.22 | ralfWORK | haven't tried |
| 14:42.26 | wired | same |
| 14:42.28 | ralfWORK | but being undead, I'm thinking no |
| 14:42.39 | wired | no point of shackle either |
| 14:42.44 | ralfWORK | thought about shackling |
| 14:42.49 | ralfWORK | but don't think that's worth it |
| 14:42.54 | wired | same |
| 14:42.59 | wired | too time consuming |
| 14:43.01 | ralfWORK | yep |
| 14:43.14 | wired | when he's on flight mode i start spamming the prayer of mending |
| 14:43.34 | ralfWORK | the thing we're having issue with is the healers both getting smoking blast |
| 14:43.42 | ralfWORK | and the dot knocking them out basically |
| 14:43.52 | ralfWORK | the way it's described is that the healer with most threat would get it |
| 14:43.55 | ralfWORK | and only that person |
| 14:43.58 | wired | healer needs to put up shield on himself and renew and prayer of mending |
| 14:44.01 | wired | works for me |
| 14:44.14 | ralfWORK | but last night we saw it up on both healers, and sometimes a 3rd person at the same time |
| 14:44.30 | wired | what i like to do is move around |
| 14:44.38 | wired | i dont stand in the same spot more than 5 sec |
| 14:44.56 | ralfWORK | I don't know if that has anything to do for the smoking blast though |
| 14:45.00 | wired | no |
| 14:45.07 | ralfWORK | ok, just checking |
| 14:45.09 | wired | but its a good way to avoid stupid stuff |
| 14:45.16 | ralfWORK | (I can see that being good for other items though) |
| 14:45.30 | wired | im telling you |
| 14:45.34 | wired | netherspite fight |
| 14:45.36 | ralfWORK | approx. how much bonus healing are you at now? |
| 14:45.38 | wired | im all over the place |
| 14:45.44 | wired | +1569 |
| 14:45.48 | ralfWORK | hmm k |
| 14:45.55 | wired | im new to raids |
| 14:46.10 | wired | i only have 1 t4 piece |
| 14:46.19 | ralfWORK | our healers should have at least that, so if shield/renew/prom works for you, |
| 14:46.21 | ralfWORK | it should work for them |
| 14:46.27 | ralfWORK | I assume you dispel the DOT as well? |
| 14:46.35 | wired | i always dispel |
| 14:46.39 | wired | dispel saves lives |
| 14:46.41 | ralfWORK | yea |
| 14:46.47 | wired | i think of it this way |
| 14:46.50 | ralfWORK | I'm just trying to figure out why it was on 3 people at once |
| 14:46.58 | wired | dots are like shooting free throws in basketball |
| 14:46.58 | ralfWORK | I mean, I guess the strats are all wrong |
| 14:46.59 | ralfWORK | lol |
| 14:47.10 | wired | if you stop them from making freethrows you'll win |
| 14:47.26 | ralfWORK | oh sure, that's a pretty good analogy too |
| 14:47.32 | wired | even though dots can be low dmg |
| 14:47.35 | wired | its still dmg |
| 14:47.42 | wired | how hard is it to dispel a dot |
| 14:47.44 | wired | one button |
| 14:47.47 | ralfWORK | it's not |
| 14:48.17 | ralfWORK | just wondering if dispelling the dot makes another person eligible for it or something |
| 14:48.23 | wired | im still new to being a healing priest |
| 14:48.33 | wired | i was shadow for 1 1/2 years |
| 14:48.37 | wired | switch to holy this past sept |
| 14:48.54 | wired | dont know |
| 14:48.57 | wired | good question |
| 14:49.05 | wired | now i want to do a kara run |
| 14:49.06 | wired | jerk |
| 14:49.13 | ralfWORK | that's more or lest about the time I started shadow |
| 14:49.31 | wired | i used to be a huge pro shadow priest |
| 14:49.36 | wired | now everyone is shadow |
| 14:49.45 | wired | i used to get denied to go in raids to mc |
| 14:49.50 | wired | cause i was shadow |
| 14:49.54 | wired | jerkoffs |
| 14:50.03 | ralfWORK | well like I said, I find leading the raids while healing to suck donkeyballs |
| 14:50.09 | wired | and now look at all those holy priests that healed for mc, they're all shadow now |
| 14:50.09 | ralfWORK | just not looking at enough crap |
| 14:50.27 | ralfWORK | in addition, we don't have a 2nd shadowpriest |
| 14:50.32 | wired | problem is with inexperienced healers is they get tunnel vison |
| 14:50.35 | wired | vision* |
| 14:51.00 | wired | they stare at the health bars of their group but not watch whats going on around them |
| 14:51.15 | wired | theres been tons of times where i died because i wasnt paying attention to my own health |
| 14:51.30 | wired | or i made a bonehead decision |
| 14:51.37 | ralfWORK | and as much as some people in my raid don't believe it, a shadowpriest is good for raids :) |
| 14:51.46 | ralfWORK | yea, I was holy 1-70 |
| 14:51.49 | wired | especially for kara |
| 14:51.55 | wired | now listen |
| 14:52.03 | wired | you only need 1 shadow priest per raid |
| 14:52.29 | wired | shadow priest will increase spell dmg for a lock |
| 14:52.32 | wired | with shadow weaving |
| 14:52.36 | ralfWORK | yes |
| 14:52.38 | ralfWORK | and misery |
| 14:52.43 | ralfWORK | for all casters (iirc) |
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| 14:52.53 | wired | shadow priest is like free mp5 |
| 14:52.57 | ralfWORK | yep |
| 14:52.57 | wired | hp5 |
| 14:53.02 | wired | or whatever |
| 14:53.04 | ralfWORK | oh trust me |
| 14:53.07 | ralfWORK | I'm a believer |
| 14:53.11 | wired | how can you deny that |
| 14:53.15 | wired | especially in long fights |
| 14:53.17 | ralfWORK | the other priest says he's not convinced it helps |
| 14:53.22 | ralfWORK | but he can be a moron |
| 14:53.33 | ralfWORK | plus |
| 14:53.40 | wired | if your spec'd right as a holy priest and you got a shadow priest with you, you should never run out of mana |
| 14:53.42 | wired | ever |
| 14:53.43 | ralfWORK | I'll have a shadowpriest shackle 10x over before having a holy one do it |
| 14:53.54 | wired | just as long as the shad priest keeps ve vt up |
| 14:54.00 | ralfWORK | yep |
| 14:54.27 | wired | mind flay is so mana efficient |
| 14:54.47 | ralfWORK | I'm at about 1k shadow damage now |
| 14:55.01 | ralfWORK | been lazy and not made my frozen shadow weave :( |
| 14:55.10 | wired | how much is you spell dmg altogether? |
| 14:55.21 | wired | im herb alchemy |
| 14:55.25 | ralfWORK | mm, like 950ish |
| 14:55.33 | ralfWORK | only +shadow I have is the offhand |
| 14:55.46 | ralfWORK | *ponders* |
| 14:55.54 | wired | badge of justice offhand |
| 14:55.56 | wired | ? |
| 14:56.00 | ralfWORK | yea, I think everything else is +spell damage |
| 14:56.02 | ralfWORK | yep |
| 14:56.21 | wired | i need to get +healing boots |
| 14:56.31 | wired | i got the epic boots from heroic slave pens |
| 14:56.38 | ralfWORK | there was a time when I was switching from holy to shadow like every other night |
| 14:56.39 | wired | from the last boss there |
| 14:56.50 | ralfWORK | so that's why I haven't made frozen shadow weave :( |
| 14:56.55 | ralfWORK | oh nice |
| 14:57.00 | ralfWORK | I had Curate's boots |
| 14:57.14 | ralfWORK | and actually won the Maiden boots last night (other priest had them) |
| 14:57.38 | ralfWORK | the maiden boots surprisingly were like +5 healing nd +2 mp5 from curates boots |
| 14:57.58 | wired | i have for my head piece whitemend hood |
| 14:57.59 | ralfWORK | about 28 spr, which is good, but still, not a massive up |
| 14:58.36 | ralfWORK | I opted for the badge helm for healy gear; with PMC, my stam sucks |
| 14:58.41 | ralfWORK | head piece has solid stam |
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| 14:59.03 | wired | i got that +healing offhand from shade |
| 14:59.11 | ralfWORK | oh yea? |
| 14:59.18 | ralfWORK | I'm still working with the Moroes one |
| 14:59.20 | wired | +healing necklace from netherspite |
| 14:59.27 | wired | moroes is a fun fight |
| 14:59.31 | ralfWORK | ok, I got badge neck |
| 14:59.42 | wired | garote is fun to heal |
| 14:59.45 | ralfWORK | lol |
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| 14:59.51 | ralfWORK | moroes is... |
| 14:59.54 | ralfWORK | easy for us now |
| 14:59.58 | wired | i think thats what it is |
| 15:00.00 | ralfWORK | I remember when he was ungodly difficult |
| 15:00.07 | wired | you know whats an easy fight |
| 15:00.10 | wired | romulo |
| 15:00.14 | ralfWORK | hah |
| 15:00.20 | ralfWORK | only gotten him 2x |
| 15:00.21 | ralfWORK | actually |
| 15:00.23 | wired | them two are easy |
| 15:00.26 | ralfWORK | the one that's MAD easy |
| 15:00.28 | Sky2042_afk | woooohoooo. no school for me! |
| 15:00.37 | ralfWORK | that I never thought would be easy |
| 15:00.38 | ralfWORK | Curator |
| 15:00.47 | wired | i got t4 drop off him |
| 15:00.55 | ralfWORK | for real, it used to be like a 8 minute fight for us |
| 15:01.05 | ralfWORK | now it's about 2 evocates and he's dead |
| 15:01.09 | wired | the guild i go to kara with are all maxed t5 |
| 15:01.13 | ralfWORK | ah ok |
| 15:01.16 | wired | so kara is easy |
| 15:01.20 | ralfWORK | I'd imagine so |
| 15:01.22 | wired | they're nice enough to help me out |
| 15:01.29 | wired | and im not even in the guild |
| 15:01.46 | ralfWORK | btw, I can't get Ritsyn's Necklace to drop |
| 15:01.50 | ralfWORK | and that makes me a sad panda |
| 15:02.22 | wired | its a random trash mob drop |
| 15:02.26 | ralfWORK | yes I know |
| 15:02.30 | ralfWORK | and that's what pisses me off |
| 15:02.47 | ralfWORK | we've gotten so many trash drops in there |
| 15:02.59 | ralfWORK | every time we're clearing trash and the loot window pops up |
| 15:03.01 | ralfWORK | I get excited |
| 15:03.15 | ralfWORK | then it ends up being some retarded +nature damage ring or some stupid BS |
| 15:03.37 | ralfWORK | I think we've given that ring to every druid we have |
| 15:03.47 | ralfWORK | for some bizarre off gear |
| 15:03.52 | ralfWORK | and then sharded it |
| 15:04.16 | ralfWORK | the one piece of loot I'm pretty excited about that dropped though, is Mongoose; dropped a few weeks back :D |
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| 15:07.16 | wired | mongoose is good |
| 15:07.23 | wired | people talk about that all the time |
| 15:07.27 | ralfWORK | yep |
| 15:07.38 | ralfWORK | can make some good gold off it |
| 15:07.52 | ralfWORK | esp when they buy my mats ;) |
| 15:07.53 | wired | i wish the servers would go up |
| 15:08.27 | Sky2042_afk | wired: lol. |
| 15:08.42 | ralfWORK | crap. apparently they changed UI stuff |
| 15:08.46 | ralfWORK | so time to get more addons |
| 15:09.40 | wired | i need to go to sleep |
| 15:09.49 | wired | what time you think they'll be back up and running? |
| 15:10.09 | ralfWORK | eh. usually after lunch |
| 15:10.10 | Sky2042_afk | usually about 11 west coast time. |
| 15:10.11 | ralfWORK | mid afternoon |
| 15:10.47 | wired | alright i need sleep |
| 15:10.51 | wired | seeya guys |
| 15:10.58 | ralfWORK | later |
| 15:11.04 | Sky2042_afk | night?.... |
| 15:11.06 | Sky2042_afk | xd |
| 15:11.09 | wired | no |
| 15:11.13 | wired | i work midnight to 8 |
| 15:11.22 | wired | est |
| 15:11.28 | wired | sucks |
| 15:11.31 | wired | but i get paid well |
| 15:11.50 | Sky2042_afk | ah |
| 15:12.09 | Sky2042_afk | yeah, it won't ready to go for him for another 4 hours |
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| 15:12.55 | Sky2042_afk | morning (afternoon to you) adys. |
| 15:13.23 | Adys | lo |
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| 16:43.03 | pcj | http://news.independent.co.uk/sci_tech/article3318007.ece |
| 17:05.22 | Sky2042 | 100k dollars |
| 17:05.30 | Sky2042 | thats a lot for a tv |
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| 17:09.23 | Sky2042 | oh jesus |
| 17:09.32 | Sky2042 | google coreiel |
| 17:09.34 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 17:13.11 | pcj | and? |
| 17:13.36 | Sky2042 | we're top hit |
| 17:14.17 | pcj | so? |
| 17:15.06 | pcj | yay 500 internal server error |
| 17:15.31 | Sky2042 | ouch |
| 17:15.31 | kd3 | indeed |
| 17:16.51 | Sky2042 | and I was deleting stuff too :/ |
| 17:17.27 | kd3 | !jobqueue |
| 17:18.13 | [NewsBot] | The www.wowwiki.com job queue length is currently 19453 doing ~1 job/s, done in approx. 0secs. |
| 17:24.53 | pcj | !wwstats |
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| 17:25.19 | [NewsBot] | pcj has updated the stats for #wowwiki! Check out the stats at http://www.bxd.dk/irc/freenode/wowwiki.html |
| 17:27.56 | pcj | wiki is borked :( |
| 17:28.12 | kd3 | anyone wanna ask in #wikia? I'm getting tired of begging for help from the ops team |
| 17:30.07 | pcj | with great power comes great responsibility |
| 17:33.09 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 17:33.38 | Sky2042 | I'll poke TOR; I'm prety sure he's busy though. |
| 17:33.48 | Sky2042 | still getting 500s? |
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| 17:34.15 | pcj | no, just slow as heck |
| 17:34.37 | aliesky | Hello to everyone |
| 17:34.44 | pcj | hi |
| 17:35.14 | aliesky | pcj: hi, how are you? |
| 17:35.21 | pcj | fine |
| 17:35.38 | aliesky | i need to know the name of a addon :D |
| 17:35.45 | aliesky | i sa it but i can't remember the nam,e |
| 17:35.54 | aliesky | **name |
| 17:36.05 | pcj | ok go to curse.com and search for it |
| 17:36.20 | aliesky | is for show a kind of summary for the Items |
| 17:36.22 | Sky2042 | aliesky: might be a good idea to ask #wowi-lounge , if you don't get your answer here. |
| 17:36.25 | Sky2042 | =) |
| 17:36.45 | aliesky | Sky2042: thanks |
| 17:43.05 | pcj | kd3 navboxes go to the left of infoboxes per MOS |
| 17:43.36 | kd3 | bah, I can never remember. I've seen/done them both ways |
| 17:43.58 | pcj | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#Converting_vertical_templates_to_horizontal_templates |
| 17:45.23 | Sky2042 | pcj: bad idea to do that when the navboxes are often longer than the infoboxes. |
| 17:45.35 | Sky2042 | naturally, if they're shorter, all for it. |
| 17:45.37 | pcj | if you wish to propose a change to the MOS, do so |
| 17:45.53 | Sky2042 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:45.56 | Sky2042 | ;) |
| 17:46.13 | pcj | "standardization" |
| 17:46.46 | Bagginsw | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Dath%27Remar_Sunstrider#Artwork |
| 17:47.22 | Bagginsw | someone with a better scanner really should upload a scan of one of his post transformation pictures. |
| 17:50.19 | pcj | i might, if: 1) I had one of those pictures, and 2) if the wiki would stop being insanely slow |
| 17:50.29 | Bagginsw | lawl |
| 17:51.37 | Sky2042 | TOR restarted the server |
| 17:51.41 | Sky2042 | should be fine now pcj :/ |
| 17:52.07 | Sky2042 | lol Bagginsw, gj making a doubleredirect |
| 17:52.09 | kd3 | whu? the wiki leaking memory or something? |
| 17:52.27 | Sky2042 | kd3: dunno. Tor doesn't do that kind of stuff. he apparently googled it. xD |
| 17:52.30 | Bagginsw | :p |
| 17:52.35 | Bagginsw | what's the main page? |
| 17:52.53 | Sky2042 | Ley lines, should probably be moved to Ley line :/ |
| 17:53.09 | Bagginsw | ya |
| 17:53.24 | Sky2042 | yeah |
| 17:53.47 | Bagginsw | as far as I know its one of those terms that can be singular. |
| 17:54.07 | Sky2042 | Bagginsw: moved. |
| 17:54.16 | Bagginsw | k |
| 17:54.20 | pcj | hooray for patch day lag |
| 17:54.35 | Bagginsw | I'm not so sure about something like; |
| 17:54.38 | Bagginsw | [[Clockworks]] |
| 17:54.39 | [NewsBot] | Bagginsw meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Clockworks |
| 17:54.40 | Sky2042 | pcj: it's typical of wowwiki. people need to find things to do. |
| 17:54.45 | pcj | maybe we should consider a "limited mode" that activates on Tuesdays |
| 17:55.10 | pcj | or a better server lol |
| 17:55.17 | Gourra | and wednesdays |
| 17:55.19 | Gourra | europe, remember |
| 17:55.19 | Sky2042 | pcj: yeah... |
| 17:55.28 | pcj | wednesdays don't seem to be as bad usually |
| 17:55.33 | Sky2042 | Gourra: not really. Wed are never as bad as Thurs; the majority of members come from US |
| 17:55.49 | Gourra | hm..you're right |
| 17:55.49 | Bagginsw | MoM was fairly specific about its plurality in the original article. |
| 17:55.55 | Gourra | and a quite few more play on US servers too |
| 17:56.09 | Bagginsw | whereas most of the other races were singular IIRC |
| 17:56.30 | Sky2042 | Bagginsw: Yeah, I can't see moving clockworks to be sane. Clockwork carries a different connotation than Clockwork |
| 17:56.36 | Bagginsw | and yet its often used in singular form in ingame and other refrences. |
| 17:56.40 | Sky2042 | Clockworks* |
| 17:56.44 | Bagginsw | ya |
| 17:56.56 | Bagginsw | Clockwork is more the technology behind clockworks |
| 18:01.48 | Bagginsw | yep and I went back and checked it seems that Clockworks are one of the few creatures listed as a plural in the book. The only other that I saw was, "Daemons" which contains a list of "Daemons" |
| 18:02.01 | Bagginsw | everything else is singular |
| 18:03.01 | Bagginsw | ok there is the "Demon Worms" but that's apparently because you'd never see them singular, they always come in swarms |
| 18:03.26 | Sky2042 | removed copyright on clockworks, because I know you didn't Bagginsw :P |
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| 18:04.43 | Bagginsw | copyright? |
| 18:05.13 | Sky2042 | it was an obvious copy-paste from rpg |
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| 18:06.06 | pcj | Hi mikk :) |
| 18:06.14 | Bagginsw | Oh I had originally paraphrased I think, but I think austin p came around and made it "accurate" |
| 18:06.17 | pcj | Mikk: I was wondering about your Events pages |
| 18:06.24 | Mikk | Right, yeah, the pages that my bot uploads |
| 18:06.31 | pcj | On stuff like Events/J wouldn't it make more sense to combine some of the letters |
| 18:06.43 | Bagginsw | no I guess not for that particular page |
| 18:06.46 | Mikk | I'm thinking that this is something that happens when the wiki lags too much |
| 18:07.18 | Sky2042 | Mikk: lol |
| 18:07.27 | Sky2042 | pcj: lol @ you too :P |
| 18:07.27 | Bagginsw | well sky its probably wrong to say they are the "earliest" |
| 18:07.29 | Mikk | It looks as if there's two jobs running concurrently. One old one, at the end of its run, still writing to tempfiles |
| 18:07.32 | Bagginsw | we don't know when they were made |
| 18:07.40 | Sky2042 | Bagginsw: hrm... |
| 18:07.44 | Mikk | And a new job, having a chance of picking up stuff from the old run and posting it otherwhere |
| 18:08.00 | Bagginsw | and its actually ok to quote a source if its only a small paragraph and properly cited |
| 18:08.05 | Bagginsw | from what I've seen |
| 18:08.06 | Bagginsw | in research |
| 18:08.12 | Bagginsw | the problem comes along if you quote the entire book |
| 18:08.15 | Sky2042 | Bagginsw: when it makes up the majority of the page? |
| 18:08.38 | Bagginsw | if that's all that's know about something sure |
| 18:08.41 | Bagginsw | *known |
| 18:09.05 | Bagginsw | if there is alot of content, then paraphrasing and reducing is better |
| 18:09.59 | Bagginsw | we actually have that exception pointed out in the fair use article |
| 18:10.13 | Bagginsw | Quotes must be offered in support of a claim. Do not reproduce Blizzard's text to fill in the substantive content of an article. The only exception to this is if the only information for a subject is limited to a sentence or small paragraph. Quoting or paraphrasing a small bit of information is ok, as long as it includes quotation marks or the <blockquote> element, as well as the ref or {{cite}}. |
| 18:10.13 | Bagginsw | [edit] Enforcement |
| 18:10.31 | Bagginsw | so we just need to blockquote |
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| 18:11.24 | pcj | hi DuTempete :) |
| 18:11.31 | pcj | how long did you let kirkburn sleep last night |
| 18:11.36 | pcj | http://www.wowwiki.com/Garadar_Sharp missing icon still |
| 18:11.52 | Gourra | I'll do it |
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| 18:12.10 | Bagginsw | now sky the article could be expanded upon with more information about general clockworks devices, ones designed by other tinkers |
| 18:12.35 | Bagginsw | a little bit about our christmas buddies ;) |
| 18:12.53 | pcj | foxlit when is foxbot going to run |
| 18:13.20 | foxlit | somewhen, beyond the sea |
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| 18:13.50 | foxlit | Perhaps when the armory is working |
| 18:13.56 | pcj | EU armory is working isn't it |
| 18:14.09 | foxlit | http://eu.wowarmory.com/search.xml?searchQuery=Nordrassil&searchType=items |
| 18:14.24 | Bagginsw | but ya sky the reason we put the single sentece and paragraph rule in is its alot easier to take a sentence or couple of sentences out of context than it is to take a whole pages worth of content out of context. |
| 18:14.41 | Gourra | pjc: done |
| 18:14.49 | Bagginsw | its also allowed by copyright to quote sentences or small paragraphs |
| 18:15.33 | Mikk | Quoting only makes sense when you want to preserve the exact wording of the original though |
| 18:15.47 | Mikk | If all you want to do is purvey the same information, it makes more sense to just rewrite |
| 18:16.23 | Mikk | ! |
| 18:16.45 | Adys | :D |
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| 18:20.54 | Bagginsw | [[Halfling]], a very imformitive article |
| 18:20.58 | Bagginsw | [[halfling]] |
| 18:20.59 | [NewsBot] | Bagginsw meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/halfling |
| 18:27.03 | Bagginsw | hmm sky actually I went back what I had there was a paraphrase |
| 18:27.17 | Bagginsw | already a paraphrase |
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| 18:28.37 | Bagginsw | http://www.wowwiki.com/Clockworks |
| 18:28.39 | Bagginsw | minor change |
| 18:28.45 | Bagginsw | there is the original quote |
| 18:29.40 | Slackwise | http://www.wowwiki.com/Freezing_Trap |
| 18:29.46 | Slackwise | "Any damage caused will break the ice (this includes DoTs such as Serpent Sting, but does not include Viper Sting)." |
| 18:29.55 | Slackwise | "If you accidentally place a Serpent Sting or Viper Sting on a mob that will run into your Freezing Trap try to hit the mob with a Scorpid Sting. Serpent Sting (and Viper) will break the trap early. Scorpid Sting will not." |
| 18:30.32 | Slackwise | IIRC, Viper does not... |
| 18:31.05 | Gourra | Shouldn't be since it's not a dot |
| 18:31.10 | Slackwise | Exactly. |
| 18:31.18 | Slackwise | I'd test it, but ya' know... realms are down. :P |
| 18:31.28 | Slackwise | And work in an hour. :P |
| 18:32.10 | Slackwise | And this is a total mess: If you accidentally place a Serpent Sting or Viper Sting on a mob that will run into your Freezing Trap try to hit the mob with a Scorpid Sting. Serpent Sting (and Viper) will break the trap early. Scorpid Sting will not. |
| 18:32.12 | Slackwise | Err |
| 18:32.15 | Slackwise | http://www.wowwiki.com/How_to_kill_a..._%28Hunter%29 |
| 18:32.25 | Slackwise | The buffer didn't copy correctly, sorry. |
| 18:32.36 | Bagginsw | I might work off a split on that page though, move general "clockwork" technology to its own page |
| 18:32.52 | Bagginsw | so that the race page can be standalone |
| 18:33.47 | Gourra | I can check after BT tonight |
| 18:34.04 | Gourra | or now, if I'm fast |
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| 18:36.26 | Gourra | actually it does break |
| 18:37.29 | Gourra | so, yeah, the info there is correct. |
| 18:39.06 | Slackwise | Gourra: The page has /both/ things on it. |
| 18:39.10 | Slackwise | Gourra: So one must be erased. |
| 18:39.25 | Bagginsw | who killed wiki |
| 18:39.27 | kd3 | squid went splat |
| 18:39.32 | Gourra | yeah went splat here too |
| 18:40.15 | Bagginsw | I was in the middle of splitting clockwork general information from clockworks race |
| 18:40.24 | Gourra | changed it to "but also Viper Sting" |
| 18:50.58 | Fisker- | i need to poop kd3 |
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| 18:52.07 | Sky2042 | sigh... |
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| 19:13.46 | Sky2042_ | sannse: question |
| 19:14.00 | sannse | hi |
| 19:14.28 | Sky2042_ | hey. when wowwiki's upgraded will Special:DeletedContribs come with it? |
| 19:14.43 | sannse | yep |
| 19:14.54 | Sky2042_ | cool |
| 19:15.27 | sannse | fun goodies :) |
| 19:16.18 | Sky2042_ | anything else, other than the extensions on [[WW:SR]]? |
| 19:17.25 | sannse | I think in the jump WoWwiki is doing, there are more, but I can't remember what was new last time |
| 19:17.34 | Sky2042 | hehe |
| 19:17.36 | sannse | it should be on WikiMedia's pages |
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| 19:23.43 | NOT_TOR | rejoice, WoWWikians ;) |
| 19:23.50 | NOT_TOR | new server coming up tomorrow |
| 19:24.00 | NOT_TOR | oops... forgot to change nicks |
| 19:26.22 | Sky2042 | wooooooooooooo |
| 19:26.39 | Sky2042 | bigger server, or just new? |
| 19:27.23 | pcj | yay |
| 19:27.34 | TOR_CNR | bigger. this one's not gonna last much longer :/ |
| 19:27.49 | foxlit | Did we kill it yet? |
| 19:27.54 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 19:27.54 | TOR_CNR | also, you'd want to hug Przemek for this one ;) |
| 19:27.58 | TOR_CNR | foxlit: almost |
| 19:28.03 | foxlit | Good, good |
| 19:28.07 | Sky2042 | where is he? |
| 19:28.11 | Sky2042 | need gief hug |
| 19:28.15 | foxlit | For a language that claims to be turing-complete, templates sure are a pain :P |
| 19:28.24 | foxlit | (Any details on how we killed it?) |
| 19:29.04 | Sky2042 | foxlit: I bet it's all those pages the bots added |
| 19:29.10 | Sky2042 | and tooltip |
| 19:29.11 | Sky2042 | of course |
| 19:29.13 | Sky2042 | :D |
| 19:29.17 | foxlit | Pages are cheap, tbh :P |
| 19:29.36 | foxlit | Revision of item should be cheaper than lootbox :P |
| 19:30.28 | Bagginsw | to be honest I prefer the term Region that the rpg uses, over "zones" :p |
| 19:31.09 | foxlit | If a spell that's got a 1% chance to miss usually deals 4 ticks of 250 damage, what is the correct multiplier to figure out how much damage is to be expected accounting for spell misses? |
| 19:31.48 | foxlit | [I'll just pre-empt 42: it's not the correct answer this time] |
| 19:31.55 | Sky2042 | easy question |
| 19:32.08 | Sky2042 | 99 ticks times 250 damage |
| 19:32.12 | Sky2042 | ;) |
| 19:32.39 | Sky2042 | which is, what, 25000 - 250 = 24750 |
| 19:33.01 | Sky2042 | as opposed to 25000 damage |
| 19:33.57 | Sky2042 | foxlit: why?... |
| 19:34.22 | Sky2042 | or, if you want to reduce down to a tick's worth, 247.5 dmg |
| 19:34.46 | foxlit | Sky, there is, of course, a trick. |
| 19:35.02 | Sky2042 | do tell. |
| 19:35.02 | foxlit | It's wow mechanics, but I suppose I should've noted it in the description |
| 19:35.11 | foxlit | Should the first tick miss, your entire spell does not land |
| 19:35.23 | Sky2042 | well, that changes it |
| 19:35.28 | Sky2042 | what about the 2nd tick? |
| 19:35.48 | foxlit | Once debuff is on mob, individual ticks may resist however the hell they want :) |
| 19:36.38 | Bagginsw | I should probably point out that Blackened Woods is more of a super region including everything south of "Silvermoon" |
| 19:36.49 | foxlit | My DPS math, really |
| 19:36.53 | Bagginsw | so it includes modern day eversong |
| 19:36.56 | Fisker- | i haven't taken a shit for like 4 days now |
| 19:39.55 | Sky2042 | well, then it's going to be (100 x 1000 - 1 x 1000 - 3 x 99 x 250), I think... out of 100 spells |
| 19:40.00 | Bagginsw | that's not healthy you will die |
| 19:40.07 | Sky2042 | gah, 3 x .99 x 250 |
| 19:40.09 | Sky2042 | ? |
| 19:40.13 | foxlit | Basically, (dd+dot*hit)*hit |
| 19:40.23 | Fisker- | :( Bagginsw |
| 19:40.28 | Fisker- | comfort me |
| 19:40.46 | Bagginsw | drink mylanta |
| 19:41.34 | Bagginsw | and some dulcolax |
| 19:41.46 | Bagginsw | the whole bottle even |
| 19:41.53 | Bagginsw | you won't have a prolbme |
| 19:41.57 | Bagginsw | ;) |
| 19:41.59 | Sky2042 | Bagginsw: Fisker-'s leading you on... |
| 19:42.07 | Bagginsw | I'm sure |
| 19:47.05 | Fisker- | might get to see kael'thas today :o |
| 19:48.07 | Gourra | yay @ announcement |
| 19:48.24 | Gourra | "We're moving to a new, stronger machine." |
| 19:49.37 | Sky2042 | Gourra: aye |
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| 19:55.13 | foxlit | There we go, ~1461 dps out on a level 73 boss buffed to the teeth without trinket procs :/ |
| 19:55.23 | foxlit | I must have missed something |
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| 20:39.06 | Bagginsw | http://www.wowwiki.com/Adept well some expansions to "adept" based on quotes in other sources. |
| 20:42.12 | Gourra | ooo an article with broken links |
| 20:42.14 | Gourra | more job for me |
| 20:44.10 | Bagginsw | heh heh |
| 21:02.26 | Bagginsw | http://www.wowwiki.com/Prince_Tortheldrin anyone want to give him an npcbox? He is described as an arcanist in the RPG. |
| 21:02.55 | ltcolumbo | so, how' |
| 21:02.59 | ltcolumbo | how's the new patch |
| 21:03.26 | ltcolumbo | I'm still at work |
| 21:03.50 | Bagginsw | which patch is this one? |
| 21:03.55 | ltcolumbo | 2.3.2 |
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| 21:04.11 | ltcolumbo | at lunch during maint, it installed when I ran the client |
| 21:04.14 | Bagginsw | the one that gives iceblock as a normal spell? |
| 21:04.30 | ltcolumbo | it changes a lot of spells |
| 21:04.41 | ltcolumbo | I know you can lay more then 1 ice trap now |
| 21:05.01 | Bagginsw | cool |
| 21:05.04 | Bagginsw | that's fancy |
| 21:05.17 | ltcolumbo | yeah, I'm wondering how that will impact things |
| 21:05.18 | Bagginsw | I want to be able to do two polymorphs |
| 21:05.32 | ltcolumbo | but, I haven't found a decent group since I came back to wow |
| 21:05.35 | ltcolumbo | so many noobs |
| 21:05.39 | Bagginsw | ya |
| 21:05.57 | Bagginsw | I don't have the time to play muhc |
| 21:06.03 | ltcolumbo | me either |
| 21:06.15 | Bagginsw | My education is more important |
| 21:06.21 | ltcolumbo | I work |
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| 21:09.13 | Groumnir | kick Gourra |
| 21:09.36 | kd3 | ghost your old nick yourself? /msg nickserv ghost gourra <your pass> |
| 21:09.53 | Groumnir | oh. thanks |
| 21:12.15 | Bagginsw | eh who added all that extra junk to the [[Template:WoW]]? |
| 21:13.07 | Gourra | what junk? |
| 21:13.12 | Bagginsw | http://www.wowwiki.com/Master_Handler_Sylvester |
| 21:13.38 | kd3 | joy! fire mage with ice block! |
| 21:13.52 | Gourra | hmm yeah, needs some proper wikification and cleanup |
| 21:14.05 | Bagginsw | nevermind I found the prolbme |
| 21:14.17 | Bagginsw | typo on my end |
| 21:15.18 | Gourra | ah |
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| 21:44.01 | Gourra | who wanted {{npcbpx}} on http://www.wowwiki.com/Prince_Tortheldrin? |
| 21:44.05 | Gourra | npcbox* |
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| 21:44.50 | Gourra | Bagginsww: http://www.wowwiki.com/Prince_Tortheldrin |
| 21:44.58 | Bagginsww | who is this master handler sylvester that he would send letters to both horde and alliance |
| 21:45.17 | Bagginsww | thanks |
| 21:45.49 | Gourra | Tell me if it's need some change |
| 21:46.15 | Bagginsww | looks fine to me |
| 21:46.20 | Gourra | okay |
| 21:46.50 | Gourra | by the way, that master handler guy mails some item to those who have bought original collector's edition |
| 21:47.05 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Falrin_Treeshaper overkill on the templates :p |
| 21:47.18 | Bagginsww | once that one gets its npcbox there will be 3 templates on the left side |
| 21:47.24 | Bagginsww | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:47.25 | Bagginsww | I mean |
| 21:47.28 | Gourra | he mails a Gift Voucher which starts a quest, but some people has reported spams on it |
| 21:47.35 | Gourra | hehe |
| 21:47.57 | Bagginsww | Ya, its weird cause most people already did that quest |
| 21:48.06 | Bagginsww | if they had the collector's edition |
| 21:48.12 | Bagginsww | unless they are sending it out ot everyone now :p |
| 21:48.28 | Bagginsww | Its weird that he send out to both horde and alliance |
| 21:49.57 | Gourra | is there any special class on Falrin Treeshaper? |
| 21:50.05 | Bagginsww | all of them are arcanists |
| 21:50.09 | Bagginsww | according to Lands of Mystery |
| 21:50.11 | Gourra | ah okay, thanks |
| 21:50.14 | Bagginsww | what's left of the arcanists |
| 21:50.23 | Bagginsww | he sacrificed most of them |
| 21:50.28 | Bagginsww | to the demon |
| 21:50.35 | Gourra | occupation: Librarian? :p |
| 21:50.41 | Bagginsww | yep, LOL |
| 21:51.26 | Gourra | npcbox done |
| 21:51.27 | Bagginsww | one of these days I need to go back through all the rpg stats and list each "craft" or "profession" given for any characters |
| 21:51.52 | Bagginsww | and link that to the discussion |
| 21:51.59 | Bagginsww | on why verticles are bad :p |
| 21:52.09 | Gourra | :p |
| 21:52.11 | Bagginsww | that's the worst one yet |
| 21:52.24 | Bagginsww | until someone shows me one with four verticle templates :p |
| 21:52.37 | Gourra | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Gourra/Sandbox/4 |
| 21:52.45 | Gourra | following sky's example |
| 21:53.12 | Bagginsww | ya |
| 21:53.15 | Gourra | I know it won't apply to all examples..but at least a beginning |
| 21:53.22 | Bagginsww | and that one goes to the bottom right, with an ancher? |
| 21:53.57 | Gourra | yeah, clicking the "End boss" link |
| 21:54.13 | Gourra | I could make the instance name link to the bottom instead ? |
| 21:58.39 | Bagginsww | that's better I think |
| 21:58.44 | Bagginsww | instance name |
| 21:58.56 | Bagginsww | or a link at the bottom |
| 21:59.00 | Bagginsww | that says "instance information" |
| 21:59.14 | Bagginsww | which would be more to the point |
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| 22:00.37 | Gourra | okay |
| 22:05.09 | Gourra | Bagginsww: check again |
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| 22:12.32 | Bagginsww | ok I think the instance name should go to the main instance page |
| 22:12.39 | Bagginsww | erm I mean unlinked |
| 22:12.46 | Bagginsww | and make the "instance info" the link |
| 22:12.54 | Gourra | ok |
| 22:12.56 | Bagginsww | probalby look better that way |
| 22:13.19 | Gourra | check now |
| 22:13.43 | Gourra | hm bugged.. |
| 22:13.45 | Bagginsww | no I mean instance information should be the anchor |
| 22:13.57 | Bagginsww | leave the page name unlinked |
| 22:14.23 | Gourra | ah sec |
| 22:14.34 | Bagginsww | unless people are braindead they should understand that a link to information goes directly to the information |
| 22:15.34 | Gourra | better? |
| 22:15.53 | Bagginsww | delink "razorfen downs" |
| 22:16.11 | Bagginsww | isntance information should link to the anchor |
| 22:16.37 | Gourra | ahh now I see |
| 22:17.06 | Gourra | now |
| 22:17.32 | Gourra | I edited the wrong "instance info" :p |
| 22:17.56 | Bagginsww | lol |
| 22:18.22 | Gourra | it's better now? |
| 22:18.42 | Bagginsww | well just remember to remove the link to Razofen downs in the final version |
| 22:19.00 | Bagginsww | no need to link to a page when yo are already in it |
| 22:19.26 | Bagginsww | other than that I like it |
| 22:19.26 | Gourra | iirc a link to a page that is itself gets bolded out |
| 22:19.44 | Gourra | see now |
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| 22:20.19 | Bagginsww | usually it bolds out but sometimes it glitches |
| 22:20.50 | Bagginsww | which is why I usually use '''____''' to bold stuff |
| 22:21.01 | Gourra | ah, okay |
| 22:22.35 | Gourra | so, if I were to put that instance infobox in a razorfen downs article (not the main), it would be linked to the main razorfen downs article? |
| 22:22.45 | Gourra | or not at all? |
| 22:23.09 | Bagginsww | you wouldn't want to put that particular infobox in other articles |
| 22:23.28 | Gourra | hm..no that's true |
| 22:23.28 | Bagginsww | its too big, and a bit bulky |
| 22:23.33 | Gourra | agreed |
| 22:24.03 | Bagginsww | for other ones we use stuff like |
| 22:24.03 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Magister%27s_Terrace |
| 22:24.17 | Bagginsww | which I think should be anchored and horizontal too |
| 22:24.55 | Bagginsww | then use a small template at the top that links to it |
| 22:25.14 | Bagginsww | just a small template that says "zone name" instance information" |
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| 22:25.25 | Gourra | mkay, I'll whip up something |
| 22:26.05 | Bagginsww | which in theory could be fit into the instance box itself somewhere |
| 22:26.08 | Bagginsww | as an optional |
| 22:26.49 | Bagginsww | for example if we have a page for subzone |
| 22:26.53 | Bagginsww | we could have a subzone infobox |
| 22:27.01 | Bagginsww | and have a link like that inside of it |
| 22:30.33 | Gourra | okay, top anchor made |
| 22:30.36 | Gourra | take a look at it |
| 22:32.19 | Bagginsww | hmm and make it a leftsidebox |
| 22:32.28 | Bagginsww | something to go near the index? |
| 22:33.28 | Gourra | left side done..and made it go along with the width of instance |
| 22:33.35 | Bagginsww | ya better |
| 22:33.37 | Gourra | what do you mean with go near the index? |
| 22:33.41 | Bagginsww | although I don't think the text needs to be that big |
| 22:33.45 | Gourra | k |
| 22:33.54 | Bagginsww | well we can place that template somewhere near the index for a page |
| 22:34.16 | Bagginsww | if the page has an index |
| 22:34.40 | Bagginsww | how would it look if you made it all one line? |
| 22:34.45 | Bagginsww | same text size |
| 22:35.11 | Bagginsww | Razofen Downs (Instance information) |
| 22:35.14 | Bagginsww | something like that |
| 22:35.34 | Bagginsww | or "instance info" between the parenths |
| 22:36.15 | Bagginsww | also for the case of that template you'll also need to link the "Razorfen Downs" back to its parent page |
| 22:37.57 | Gourra | well, I can make it on one line, but the "instance info" will be a tad large |
| 22:38.06 | Gourra | unless I change the whole change to a small text size |
| 22:38.15 | Bagginsww | ya make ita ll small text size |
| 22:38.39 | Gourra | take a look now |
| 22:38.49 | Gourra | above with medium, below with small |
| 22:38.55 | Bagginsww | loves the one of the bottom |
| 22:39.11 | Bagginsww | we don't need "bold" for something resting in another page |
| 22:39.22 | Gourra | k |
| 22:39.38 | Bagginsww | bold should be used only for the page name |
| 22:40.14 | Bagginsww | btw this anchor should be used if there isn't a infobox to begin with |
| 22:40.25 | Bagginsww | if there is a zonebox for example |
| 22:40.43 | Bagginsww | then we could have the optional instance information link next to the "location" area |
| 22:41.20 | Bagginsww | if we choose to put subzones in a zonebox |
| 22:41.22 | Gourra | well there's always a start :) |
| 22:41.42 | Gourra | this would be the final version I think |
| 22:41.51 | Bagginsww | well I wouldnt' mind a special zonebox for subzones to allow for a nice screenshot of that area |
| 22:41.55 | Bagginsww | and basic information |
| 22:42.02 | Gourra | top left to sub-pages, large one on the right to main, and the bottom to all |
| 22:42.19 | Bagginsww | yep |
| 22:42.52 | Bagginsww | and optinal subzone template for especially important lore areas |
| 22:42.55 | Bagginsww | *optional |
| 22:43.04 | Bagginsww | if you want to design one |
| 22:43.26 | Gourra | no problem |
| 22:43.40 | Gourra | but I'll do it tomorrow, gonna get some sleep first |
| 22:43.50 | Bagginsww | on the other hand there probably isn't going to be much need for the small anchor, due to thef act that subpages tend to be one page or less |
| 22:44.03 | Bagginsww | so you could see the bottom of the page easily LOL |
| 22:44.26 | Bagginsww | I'd say that's really only going to be useful for a boss tactics page |
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| 22:44.32 | Gourra | well it's just optional to put the top anchor, like {{RFD-top}} |
| 22:44.36 | Bagginsww | ya |
| 22:45.26 | Gourra | won't be that hard to change the instance infobox, but it'll need to change all of the subinfo boxes to horizontal first..and probably renamed too |
| 22:45.48 | Bagginsww | also I think the boss section should be outside the lore section |
| 22:46.14 | Bagginsww | the lore sections needs the "ruler" section isntead |
| 22:46.25 | Bagginsww | remember they all need popluation info too |
| 22:46.29 | Bagginsww | in case |
| 22:47.00 | Gourra | no worries |
| 22:47.12 | Gourra | I'll need to copy the whole template first..and make necessary changes |
| 22:47.18 | Gourra | was a pain first in the beginning :p |
| 22:47.22 | Bagginsww | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:47.29 | Bagginsww | to the top |
| 22:47.35 | Bagginsww | like on the zoneboxes |
| 22:48.39 | Bagginsww | but ya end boss will look better under the instance info section imo |
| 22:48.43 | Gourra | mm yeah |
| 22:49.09 | Gourra | could need two npc boxes; one for in-game and one for lore |
| 22:49.25 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Stratholme |
| 22:49.26 | Gourra | and seperate images for each if possible |
| 22:49.39 | Bagginsww | so basically the new one needs to allow for population, ruler, alignment, etc |
| 22:49.45 | Bagginsww | *affiliation |
| 22:49.53 | Bagginsww | and government |
| 22:50.06 | Bagginsww | we had npcbox seperate gourra |
| 22:50.10 | Bagginsww | its easier this way |
| 22:50.13 | Gourra | ah |
| 22:50.17 | Bagginsww | you just need to adjust where the stuff appears |
| 22:50.56 | Gourra | so, for example, on stratholme the ruler etc would be put under "Instance info"? |
| 22:51.14 | Bagginsww | whatever the order is on regular zoneboxes |
| 22:51.21 | Gourra | mkay |
| 22:51.41 | Bagginsww | basically it should look like a zonebox but with extra fields at the bottom |
| 22:51.58 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Elwynn_Forest |
| 22:52.05 | Bagginsww | even include a citation section if you can |
| 22:52.15 | Bagginsww | for the lore section |
| 22:52.45 | Bagginsww | it might even need the major and minor settlements sectins too |
| 22:52.45 | Gourra | I'll try |
| 22:52.53 | Bagginsww | Zul'aman for example |
| 22:52.58 | Bagginsww | is supposed to be a region |
| 22:53.02 | Bagginsww | so it has cities |
| 22:53.21 | Gourra | is it just me, or has it become fastwiki now? |
| 22:53.25 | Bagginsww | anycase back to the npcbox |
| 22:53.36 | Bagginsww | see how at the top of zonebox there is the level information? |
| 22:53.43 | Bagginsww | just under zone name |
| 22:53.50 | Gourra | yes |
| 22:53.52 | Bagginsww | I think that's where npc's level should be |
| 22:53.56 | Bagginsww | on an npcbox |
| 22:54.10 | Gourra | mmkay |
| 22:54.27 | Bagginsww | that would be just above the npc's picture |
| 22:56.00 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Npcbox and wealth info that should probably be outside the lore section |
| 22:56.15 | Bagginsww | reaction too |
| 22:56.22 | Bagginsww | and health |
| 22:56.29 | Bagginsww | anything dealing with mechanics |
| 22:56.36 | Bagginsww | should be above the picture |
| 22:56.41 | Bagginsww | or in some kind of seperate section |
| 22:57.02 | Bagginsww | anything lore wise, though is fine in the lower area |
| 22:57.24 | pcj | I think separate section rather than above/below the picture |
| 22:57.41 | Bagginsww | ya |
| 22:57.45 | Bagginsww | whichever looks best |
| 22:58.00 | Bagginsww | I'm just saying its weird to see mechanics mixed with the lore info |
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| 23:09.06 | Sky2042 | left side box?... |
| 23:10.43 | Sky2042 | obama is winnnning obama is winnnning |
| 23:11.01 | pcj | ...ok |
| 23:11.09 | kd3 | woot |
| 23:11.12 | kd3 | down with the hillary |
| 23:12.00 | Sky2042 | i think we'll have our first black president in 380 some days |
| 23:12.00 | pcj | her crying was so fake |
| 23:12.03 | Sky2042 | lol |
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| 23:13.05 | Bagginsww | hillary annoys me |
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| 23:13.51 | pcj | ugh lol |
| 23:15.10 | Bagginsww | osama, obama, yomama |
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| 23:17.01 | Sky2042_ | jesus no |
| 23:17.10 | Bagginsww | anyone ever read that book, or hear of it, something like Is your Mama a Llama |
| 23:17.17 | Sky2042_ | not like that gourra :/ |
| 23:18.06 | Bagginsww | down with templates down with templates |
| 23:22.04 | pcj | http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:Vyrin%27s_Revenge ...decisions, decisions |
| 23:22.54 | pcj | There we go |
| 23:31.11 | Bagginsww | I wish we had all the conversation text from AQ event |
| 23:31.46 | Bagginsww | like in the taction's room |
| 23:31.59 | Bagginsww | *tactician |
| 23:33.44 | Bagginsww | are the old high elf models still int eh game files? |
| 23:36.01 | pcj | :S |
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