IRC log for #wowwiki on 20080106

00:02.30BagginswwOne final challenge remained,
00:02.30Bagginswwthough: naming the template. “Immortal”
00:02.30Bagginswwdidn’t feel right; although “divine”
00:02.30Bagginswwwas used in Warcraft III for units
00:02.30Bagginswwsuch as Cenarius, it also felt a bit awkward.
00:02.31BagginswwSo, Bob Fitch and Chris Metzen
00:02.33Bagginsww(the main Warcraft guy at Blizzard)
00:02.35Bagginswwgot together and came up with…
00:02.45Bagginswwso chris metzen was involved with the naming
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00:19.05DottedFisker- ah ja det jo derfor, han kbte GTA collection og s virker der selvf ikke jo
00:19.10Dottedmin fejl
00:20.08Fisker-?
00:20.33Bagginswwspeak Common dotted or I kick you ;)
00:20.47Dotted[00:34:56] [+Fisker-]: #5 - 2'ern virker fint her og jeg køre endda vista. Prøv en gang til ;)
00:20.47Dotted[00:35:01] [+Fisker-]: du har købt rockstar collection ololol
00:20.55Bagginswwkick kick
00:21.04DottedBagginsww i dont speak common
00:21.08Dottedalso
00:21.10Bagginswwyou just did ;)
00:21.16Dottedtranslating a quote would be fail
00:21.18Bagginswwdepends on which dialect of Common
00:21.32Dottedno common isnt english
00:21.36Bagginswwya it is
00:21.39Dottedno
00:21.39Bagginswwits mixed
00:21.49Dottedthen orchish would be english aswell
00:22.06Bagginswwwell actually we don't have sources stating specifically that "such is orcish"
00:22.24Bagginswwwhere as we have sources stating that "Dwarf" is a Common word
00:22.48Bagginsww"Rain Dance" is also a "common term"
00:22.58Dottedgud fri mig vel Fisker-
00:22.59Bagginswwyes I know its weird ;)
00:23.03Dottedyes indeed
00:23.37Bagginswwstrangely the old Common text for Trol'Kalar is vaguely readable
00:24.04Bagginswwhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Trol%27kalar.jpg
00:24.24Sky2042du har købt rockstar collection ololol "You have bought a rock star collection"?
00:24.32Sky2042dotted
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00:24.47Dottedclkose
00:24.49Dotted*close
00:25.04Sky2042what's the exact translation? :/
00:25.12Bagginswwt and r look varguely arabic, the L is upside down.  K is almost there, "a"s are different
00:25.14DottedYou have bought Rockstar Collection ololol
00:25.16BagginswwTroll Killer
00:25.28Sky2042ah
00:25.32Sky2042it was a proper noun
00:25.35Sky2042lrn2type,imo
00:25.53BagginswwTrol'kalar becomes "troll killer" literally
00:25.54Dottedrockstar as in the game company
00:26.10Gourracan't see the picture
00:26.32Bagginswwslowwiki?
00:26.51Bagginswwo looks like a bow
00:27.05Gourrano, the page loads but there's no picture
00:27.17BagginswwI see it fine :p
00:27.18Gourraand if I select to see just the picture it loads as a 1x1 .gif picture
00:27.31Gourraonly happens with slowwiki
00:27.44Bagginswwhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Trolkalarspel.JPG
00:27.46Bagginswwsame as that
00:27.53Bagginswwjust that's the side ways view
00:27.59Gourraah can see it
00:28.14Bagginswwbut ya its strangely readable
00:29.04Bagginswwonly issue is the letter a's
00:29.14Bagginswwthat became partial e's
00:29.32Bagginswwthe letter ls are obviously turned upside down
00:29.45Bagginswwt is basically a t
00:29.51Sky2042the first A, with what looks like an o over it, is a letter
00:29.57Sky2042in swedish, among other languages
00:30.12Bagginswwcool
00:30.14Sky2042and pronounced with an o-ah type sound
00:30.29BagginswwI'm pretty sure its not in the cyryllic alphabet or is it?
00:30.33Sky2042but, not so much today; just read as "o"
00:30.47Sky2042dunno
00:31.05Bagginswwnot that I can see
00:31.09Bagginswwhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrillic_alphabet
00:32.12Sky2042Derived from Germanic
00:32.16Sky2042From around year 200, speakers of the North Germanic branch became distinguishable from the other Germanic language speakers. Between 750 and 1100, North Germanic speakers spoke dialects referred to as "Danish tongue", a name used for the language until the 13th century in Sweden.[5] Runic inscription give document to the early development of this language.
00:32.55Sky2042and then further separation of the nation-states of scandinavia caused splits. that particular letter ended up in norwegian and swedish, I think
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00:33.41Bagginswwcool
00:34.08Sky2042which is descend from Old Norse
00:34.11Sky2042ed
00:34.18Sky2042(Germanic languages_
00:34.25Bagginswwya it does look like runic styles I've seen before
00:34.49Bagginswwalthough I've only seen some celtic runes IIRC
00:35.10Bagginswwalthough there may have been some norse influences there
00:35.40BagginswwI don't remember when the runes were said to have been made.
00:35.48Bagginswwthis was a while ago on some documentary I was watching
00:36.13Sky2042invented / introduced to the germans in the 1st century
00:36.15Bagginswwand btw that info is cool if you can add it ot the common article somewhere
00:36.50Bagginswwwe should combine all the real world inspired bits into a single section
00:36.59BagginswwI mean info about inspiration
00:40.31pcj!trcount Template:AlsoSee
00:40.37FoxbotTemplate:AlsoSee has been transcluded in 948 pages.
00:40.58GourraI really don't like verticle templates: http://www.wowwiki.com/Tuten'kash
00:41.29Gourravertical*
00:43.33Sky2042pcj: what are you thinking?...
00:43.40pcjHmm?
00:43.45Sky2042eh
00:43.56Bagginswwya gourra many of us don't
00:44.07Bagginswwyou should go post your opinion over in village pump :)
00:44.22pcjhttp://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#Converting_vertical_templates_to_horizontal_templates
00:44.39Bagginswwhaving two templates that close together like that looks unprofessional
00:49.58Gourraedit conflicts make baby jesus cry
00:50.27Sky2042yeah
00:50.49pcjno they don't, jesus saves
00:51.35Gourramoses takes the rebound and scoooooooooores
00:52.57BagginswwI want to a movie based around the first base ball game
00:53.06Bagginswwyou know the Big inning
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00:53.36Bagginswwand no not about creation ;) It needs to be a spoof on baseball and creation
00:53.56BagginswwIn the beginning God created first base
00:54.05Bagginswwand it was good
00:57.57Bagginswwand then Adam and Eve made it home and it was good.
01:01.23Bagginswwand cough where does one find a recent version of wow map viewer cough :p
01:06.23pcjthe internet
01:08.53DuTempeteParty time, boys and girls!  I"m off for some drunken birthday goodness.  See you tomorrow.
01:09.51pcjyay
01:09.55pcjbye DuTempete
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01:12.10Bagginswwhttp://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Varghedin#New_mini-icon_ideas
01:12.25Bagginswwsorry my mind is full of useless trivia
01:12.38pcjwe know
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01:15.00BagginswwFranklin was a weird one
01:15.07Bagginswwbut I suppose he got the women :p
01:15.20Bagginswwhe certainly wasn't choosey either
01:15.37pcjhttp://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#Converting_vertical_templates_to_horizontal_templates
01:15.55pcji love how fandy's sig uses PST time instead of UTC like everyone else
01:16.23Bagginswwlol
01:16.36Bagginswwso how do I give myself uh the hawaiian time?
01:17.47Bagginswwyou know I probably would have never known that useless tidbit about Franklin if it wasn't for a certain history teacher I had once
01:18.54Sky2042_better to just use UTC baggins
01:19.20BagginswwLol, but I want to be different, ;)
01:19.32Bagginswwnah I don't actually care
01:27.01Sky2042_wonder how I broke it...
01:27.03Sky2042_hmm
01:30.21Bagginswwhttp://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#Converting_vertical_templates_to_horizontal_templates
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02:04.16pcjhi kirkburn
02:04.54Sky2042_well, that seems counterproductive
02:05.19Kirkburn|sleepI'm going to bed :P
02:05.24Sky2042_yeah, we got that.
02:08.44Kirkburn|sleepJust at my parents for a day
02:09.19Kirkburn|sleepThought I would at least give myself a proper excuse for having the router and laptop on (*sigh*)
02:10.04Kirkburn|sleep"omg must switch router off at night, even if son wants to use it!" ... yeah, er, no.
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02:17.58Bagginswwyuck
02:17.59Bagginswwhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Lethtendris
02:18.11Gourrayuck
02:18.28Gourrabetter now?
02:18.40Bagginswwnot by much
02:19.03Gourrahey, at least it's better
02:19.13Zealtired of time travel spin-offs stories..
02:19.48pcjAren't you pumped for the Terminator mini-series?
02:20.04Zealwouldn't know, only saw t3 a few days ago
02:20.05Zeallol
02:20.07BagginswwI'm not... I didn't think the third movie was that good
02:20.17Bagginswwit was fun but not as good as the second
02:21.15Bagginswwand I'm not sure how the new actress can compare to Linda Hamilton
02:21.50pcjlol
02:23.06Bagginswwoh and apparently it ignores the third movie :)
02:23.08Bagginswwmaybe I'll like it
02:23.16Bagginswwits set in 2007 or 8
02:23.38Bagginswwthird movie was in 2003 right?
02:24.33Zealno idea
02:24.47BagginswwI'm pretty sure itw as early part of the decade
02:24.54Bagginswwwhen the world ended :p
02:25.13Gourrahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminator_3
02:25.16GourraRelease date(s) July 2, 2003
02:25.26BagginswwI meant the storyline date
02:25.42Bagginsww2004
02:25.49Zealwonderful listening to how people are scared of going out alone at night because of all the teenage related killings in the uk.
02:26.37Gourra"Skynet sends another Terminator, the T-X (Kristanna Loken), back to July 24, 2004, Judgment Day,"
02:27.00Bagginswworiginal judgement day was in 1998 right?
02:27.16Bagginswwlate 90s or something
02:27.43Gourrahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminator_2
02:27.47Gourra"on August 29, 1997, launching nuclear missiles that destroy most of humanity."
02:28.02Bagginsww1997 eh
02:28.29Zealbtw baggins, would be easier to just use publication dates for products tbh. easier to varify, and for information purposes i think the date soemthing existed is more important than the date stores were told to sell it.
02:29.04Bagginswwanycase if the new series takes place in normal 2007 or 2008 and sarah is still alive, then its obviously ignoring the third movie, and also elements of the first 2. Connor's age is screwed up
02:29.46Bagginswwzeal the date stores were told sell it is usually the publisning date, but some places are late at getting their copies
02:29.56Zealthats my point
02:29.57Bagginswwand sometimes the books had wrong publishign date printed
02:30.08Bagginswwso website gave something different than the book :p
02:30.13Bagginswwits hard to track
02:30.46Zealand then there's pre-releases, stores selling early, stores getting it late, and the date is often lost. it's onyl really useless for unreleased products on stores, not encylopedias.
02:31.50Zealbook i'm reading atm says published in november 2007, but it was actually december 12th, same day as release.
02:32.11Gourratime paradox
02:32.44Bagginswwtime paradox for the new series?
02:32.47Bagginswwor the book?
02:33.00GourraI meant at the book
02:33.06Zealhehe
02:33.18Zealalso most stores didn't get it in-stock unti lthe 19th :p
02:34.49BagginswwFurthermore, Friedman stated that the events of Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines have no bearing on this timeline, but do occur in an alternate timeline.[6] However, other websites are reporting that the series takes place between the second and third Terminator movies.[7]
02:34.54Bagginswwit can't be both :p
02:35.13Bagginswwit makes more sense its ignoring the 3rd
02:35.53Zealwell i take it Friedman would know better?
02:35.59Bagginswwya
02:36.13Bagginswwhe's the producer or director or something
02:36.42Bagginswwand it says later in the article
02:37.07BagginswwAn advanced script review by TV Squad revealed that time travel will play a major role in the series premiere including a temporal leap for the main characters from 1998 to the current year.[24]
02:37.17BagginswwI hope that doesn't mean forward time travel :p
02:37.21Zealslow loading wiki is slow to load :/
02:37.23Bagginswwalthough that would fix the age discrepency
02:37.58Bagginswwbut forward time travel was an issue considered implausable by the early series although used in the attraction
02:40.22Bagginswwoh and apparently the tv series is pushing skynet to 2011 now
02:40.40Bagginswwdefinitely ignoring the 3rd movie ;)
02:40.55Bagginswwthis series is sounding better and better, :)
02:45.22Bagginswwok sarah conner was supposed to have died of leukemia according to the 3rd movie in 1997 LOL
02:45.33BagginswwHer judgement day I guess :p
02:46.34Bagginswwone website claims this;
02:46.35BagginswwThe new series is supposed to continue where Terminator 2 left off and ignores the existance of T3 all together.  In Rise of the Machines, set in 2004, Sarah Connor was said to have died of leukemia in 1997, so the abandonment of that installment was necessary for the show to even take place.  The first episode of the Sarah Connor Chronicles is actually supposed to start in 1999, while simultaneously being set 2 years after T2, which was suppos
02:46.35Bagginswwed to have been set in 1994, but which was released in 1991-
02:47.01Bagginswwlawl
02:47.16Bagginswwhttp://deadc.wordpress.com/2007/08/29/abort-terminate-misson-the-sarah-conner-chronicles/
02:47.19Zealffs.. dunno wtf is going on, bloody ati ccc has screwed with my settings : / pretty sure cleartype isn't working correctly, it turns off the signal for no reason now and then, and i can't reactive my second desktop again, despite nothing having changed since i deativated it. only thing i've done is that before playing DoW (because the mouse doesn't get locked to the game window edge causing scrolling issues) : /
02:47.26Gourrasomeone call blizzard, we need some retcon
02:47.48Zealgogo judge blizz
02:49.20BagginswwYou know if you can't send clothing back because its not flesh and blood
02:49.36Bagginswwand you can send a robot because its covered in flesh and blood
02:49.51Bagginswwwhy not create flesh and blood capsules to send back anything you might need in thne past
02:50.03Bagginswwlike a purse made out of meat
02:50.23Bagginswwslice it open when you get to your destination and have all the equipment you need
02:50.37Zealthe tx isn't flesh nad blood either is it?
02:50.47Bagginswwtx skin was
02:51.25Bagginswwthe t-100 and tx had the ability to turn their nanite like liquid metal into flesh composite
02:51.27Bagginswwor something like that
02:51.33Zealthe t3 one? wasn't she all like synthetic alloy that could simpyl transform to look like skin?
02:51.39Bagginswwits not really explained in the movies as far sa I know just the directors notes
02:51.45Zealmeh, k
02:51.56Bagginswwthe one in t3 was actually less sophisticated
02:52.07Bagginswwit was only liquid metal on outside
02:52.17Bagginswwthe inside was more like the t-850
02:52.23Bagginswwthe skeleton
02:52.30Bagginswwit had a weapon
02:52.37Bagginswwbecause it was covered in flesh
02:52.40Bagginswwit could be sent back
02:52.59BagginswwI.E. the liquid metal "skin" that could mimic flesh
02:53.14Zealthe weapon made nosense imo, and she didn't have anything else inside iirc, especially in the scene where she was stuck to that particle accelerator.
02:53.16Bagginswwthat's actually explained in the movie somewhat as I recall
02:53.31Bagginswwthere were a few scenes were you could see her skull iirc
02:53.35Bagginswwand some of her "bones"
02:53.43Zealmeh
02:54.00Bagginswwshe was never as interesting to me as the t-1000
02:54.27Bagginswwt-million was kinda of cool just for being big ass spider thing
02:54.49Zeali don't know whats what tbh.
02:55.01Zealthat i spider i vaguelly remember too
02:55.05Bagginswwhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-X
02:55.12Bagginswwthe spider was in the attraction
02:55.26Bagginswwit was just a huge liquid metal spider
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02:55.55Yeppymike oldfield and pveing go together :D
02:56.13Bagginswwhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:T-1000000.png
02:56.15Zealoh wait, i remember when she died now, kk then.
02:56.30Gourrahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T2_3-D:_Battle_Across_Time#T-1000000
02:56.36Zealyeah, i saw t2: 3d
02:56.37Gourradamn you Bagginsww
02:57.14BagginswwI like the ride despite its issues, mainly cause it was actually a story develiped by the Cameron
02:57.21Bagginsww*developed
02:57.40Bagginswwin that story you could travel forward in time, and you could bring your stuff with you
02:57.53BagginswwI always thought it was just advanced in time travel technology that allowed it
02:58.00Zeal"the Cameron" :P
02:58.53BagginswwJames Cameron was superior to any spin off terminator stories imo
02:59.30Bagginswwbut ya T-3 ignored T2:3d so its nice to see the series ignoring the 3rd movie, LOL
03:01.42Zeallol
03:03.57Yeppyis there a wowiki page dedicated to alchemy?
03:04.08Bagginswwand alchemists
03:04.17Bagginswwalchemist is the lore page
03:04.24Bagginswwand alchemy the main page
03:05.19Yeppyalchemy and alchemist same thing? :S
03:05.50Kirkburn|sleep[[Alchemy]]
03:05.51[NewsBot]Kirkburn|sleep meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Alchemy
03:06.03Kirkburn|sleepSky2042_, telling me off now? :O
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03:06.28Gourramy gosh kirkburn is typing in his sleep
03:06.39Kirkburn|sleepYeppy, alchemist performs the alchemy
03:06.55YeppyRightio :D
03:08.32Yeppywhat does /camp actualy do o_O
03:10.58laindir_yeppy, same as /logout
03:12.47Yeppyah k
03:12.54Yeppythought it make some lil tent thing
03:13.29Bagginswwgive sky an inch and he walks a mile :)
03:15.35Kirkburn|sleepheh
03:16.01Kirkburn|sleepGive Zeal a reason to complain and you get a war :P
03:16.30Bagginswwlol
03:16.33Gourrahttp://www.wowwiki.com/User:Gourra/Sandbox/3
03:16.35Gourralooks any good?
03:17.30Zealhehe
03:18.11Kirkburn|sleepproper goodnight :)
03:18.36BagginswwThey don’t stay in 1999 for long though.  At the end of the episode the Connors and the lady Terminator build and enter a time travel device.
03:18.38BagginswwLawl
03:18.56Sky2042_Kirkburn|sleep: you betcha!
03:19.01Bagginswwto sept 2007
03:20.25Zealnn
03:23.31Zealhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Qimi1HLgZg&NR=1 <-- haha
03:24.20Bagginswwheh heh
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03:34.01ArideniAnyone here know about the behaviors of transparency in image formats across browsers?
03:34.50Zealaye
03:35.03Zealthough i take it you mean png
03:35.13Zealas that the only one i know of having any issues.
03:35.14ArideniYeah sort of
03:35.39ArideniI have an image I'm going to place over a background image using CSS
03:36.09Aridenibut I know there are issues with png, couldn't I achieve the same effect with a GIF though?
03:36.14Arideniand still work across ie/ff/opera/safari?
03:37.24Aridenijust putting a bg image in a div & then position an image with transparency over top of it, partially hiding the background (like a photo matte)
03:38.05Zealgif doesn't have an alpha channel, meaning no transparency blending basically.
03:38.41Zealso if you're dealing with sharp edges, it's fine. otherwise png is a better choice and just laugh at the ie6 users.
03:38.51Aridenimm I'll have to work with png then, ty
03:38.52Aridenior find some other way
03:39.03ArideniIt's sharp edges, like boxy
03:39.05YeppyFirefox 4tehwin
03:40.02ArideniI have some rectangles coming off the side of an image that will overlap the background
03:40.59Zealthen you can get away with a gif.
03:41.20ArideniThat's what was I hoping, ok ty
03:41.35Zealpersonally i'd still prefer png for the larger colour pallete.
03:41.55Zealand lossless ofc.
03:41.58ArideniI don't need too many colours, the main ones are 9C9 & F90
03:42.07Zealkk :p
03:42.35ArideniMy goal is to have half of a header DIV where I can change the background image to suit the theme
03:43.00Aridenifor example, change the bg to a cut out of a christmas scene, with a logo overlapping it
03:43.21ArideniAt least, gonna try to make it work
03:44.16Yeppysounds cool :D
03:44.42Zealhm.. ff3 supports apng
03:45.14Zealoo, and opera 9.5
03:45.49Aridenilol I was in a discussion a few weeks ago, we were talking about the lettering conventions that could be used to describe the new IE
03:46.15Aridenifor example, IE v iII
03:46.56Aridenior no
03:46.56Arideniit was something like that, but it came out reading EVIL
03:47.54ArideniI don't know how it was done now that I think about it...*shuts up now*
03:48.40Zeal"IE Desktop Online Web Browser Live Professional Ultimate Edition for the Internet"
03:49.42Zeali do like "IE 1000" too, hehe. but IE8 would be just fine thanks :P
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03:50.58Sky2042_DOWBLPUEI?
03:51.35StacksYes.
03:53.24ArideniIE.neXt is the name isn't it?
03:53.30ArideniI mean the name name
03:54.09Yeppywhy cant ye gather herbs whiles mounted ><
03:54.22ArideniProbably fall off anyway
03:54.42Yeppynot with a herb picker stick :D
03:54.54ArideniLOl now that's what I'm talkin' about
03:55.06Aridenilittle grabber arm
03:55.17laindirproblem being, you'd probably need to be an engineer to use one
03:55.24Arideniengineers could make one to
03:55.26Aridenilol yeah
03:55.39YeppyAnyone can use a stick ^^
03:55.57Aridenionly an engineer can put the metal prod on the end though
03:55.58Yeppyorgres would ahve difficulty at first, but they'll get the hang of it..
03:56.18Yeppywhat do engineers actualy do?
03:56.24laindirone would also expect that the idea of dynamite is relatively straight-forward, but game mechanics tell us otherwise
03:57.00Yeppymy had a pack of dynamite, was claled goblin fishing pole
03:57.21laindirhehe... I still use those on my shaman in TK when I remember to
04:00.48Sky2042_what are the diffs between FF2 and FF3?...
04:00.58Sky2042_other than the fact one is still in dev.
04:01.22Sky2042_nvm
04:01.44bleeterhttp://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox3/Product_Requirements_Document
04:12.10Yeppyis there a button to click when ur fishing, or do you have to click ur bait with ur mouse?
04:12.41bleetergotta click the bobber
04:12.51YeppyGrr
04:12.58Yeppyso hard when its 4am and tired ><
04:13.13bleeterused to be different, iirc, but people botted for the fishing extravaganza
04:14.05Gourracan someone give their opinion on http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Gourra/Sandbox/3 ?
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04:23.16pcji liked it
04:24.37Gourrathanks, I'll continue the page later, need some sleep first
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05:15.13ArideniZeal: gif transparency came out great
05:15.42ArideniI found a javascript fix for png in IE but it won't validate, so I'm glad gif seems to work fine
05:15.58Aridenicorrection, a hack for IE that won't validate*
05:21.16Zealmhm, tons out there.
05:21.27Zeal*ie5 & 6 ;)
05:21.56Zealdon't see why it wouldn't validate. personally i have a htc file i use.
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05:23.11Yeppywhere best place to farm wool cloth?
05:25.37Gourrahttp://www.wowwiki.com/Wool_Cloth#Places_to_farm
05:26.46Slackwiselol, I was about to link him http://www.wowhead.com/?item=2592#dropped-by
05:27.24Gourraplace it is a link there ;)
05:27.53SlackwiseSort by location :P
05:28.03Slackwisehttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=2592#dropped-by:0+3-7+1
05:28.22SlackwiseRight off the bat, Ashenvale and The Barrens. :P
05:28.55GourraI suggest you put it in there as it is valuable information for the wiki
05:32.30Yeppymeh too many links ^^
05:32.39Yeppyumm ashenvale it is then? ^^
05:33.11pcjwhy couldn't mages open a portal to shatt before the dark portal was reopened
05:33.30Gourraiirc you would have to speak to someone in shattrath to get the spell
05:33.50pcj...but lore-wise or w/e
05:34.27GourraI'd guess that nobody on azeroth had the knowledge to do that
05:34.33pcjnubs
05:34.42Gourraidd, l2port
05:35.08pcjif shattrath city has those ports in the middle to all the towns in azeroth why didn't people use them to get away from outland
05:35.34Gourrawhos said they were they before the dark portal opened?
05:36.21pcjI couldn't think of any other use for those spots
05:36.58pcjI guess giant wind chimes just don't get around much
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05:49.01pcjif shattrath city has those ports in the middle to all the towns in azeroth why didn't people use them to get away from outland
05:49.03pcjbah
05:49.10pcjhttp://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#Converting_vertical_templates_to_horizontal_templates
05:50.32Gourrajust saw that
05:51.24GourraI like the idea of making a link to an anchor to the bottom of the page, but the question is how to do that
05:52.07pcjOh, we can do it
05:52.28Gourrain one template? damn I should read up more
05:53.04pcjNo, not in one template.  The template at the bottom would have a certain id and the one at the top would know that id
05:53.18Gourraah of course
05:54.39Gourrasomething like {{Top|BRD}}, with the equivalent {{Bottom|BRD}}?
05:56.42pcjWell, if it's {{Blackrock Depths-top}} and {{Blackrock Depths-bottom}}, you don't need the parameter
05:57.33GourraTrue, true
06:01.20Gourraidea: http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Gourra/Sandbox/4
06:02.03Gourratop one is subject to change, of course
06:02.18Gourrasomehow link it with the bottom one
06:02.20pcj...yeah
06:02.46pcjhmmm
06:04.54pcjNo, not like that
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06:05.26Gourrahm no
06:05.40pcjTry this.
06:06.13GourraI like it
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06:07.12GourraMade a little change
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06:33.24Yeppyis it possible to depleat a area of herbs ><
06:33.57Yeppyjust went on a mad on in dustwollow.. rockmusic/mount zooming everywhere picking everyhting up.. now for 15min i cant find anything ><
06:34.23pcjzomg deforestation you've gotta replant
06:34.57Yeppy><
06:35.55Yeppynerf! i chose to increase my alchemy.. now i cant coz de hippies dont plant fast enough
06:37.29Yeppyaverage price of liferoot on ah? :D
06:38.26pcjlol liferoot
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06:56.54Bagginswwhow would it work to say make a small navbox that links to an index page?
06:57.09Sky2042_afkBagginsww: what are you suggesting?
06:57.44BagginswwI mean instead of large bulky templates doing something along the lines of in page disambig but to a "index" of related material
06:59.16Bagginswwor as pcj put it, I suppose it could drop you down the page to the bottom to the template
06:59.37Gourradid you see the suggestion page I made?
06:59.45Gourratogether with pjc
06:59.59Sky2042_afkthere are two anchor type templates that pcj and zeal have both developed that I know of would work in such a way.
07:00.02Bagginswwoh wow you hve been at work heh
07:00.19Sky2042_afkthen again, that's what the TOC is for.
07:00.24Gourraoh pjc and zeal too?
07:00.34Sky2042_afkGourra: they've done different stuff than you have
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07:01.18Zeal{{jump}}
07:01.18[NewsBot]Zeal meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:jump
07:02.14Bagginswwthe point where an index page would look better, is when you have one of those tiny one sentence or one paragraph articles being dominated by one or more huge templates, even if the templates are autohidden.
07:02.45Sky2042_afkit's not domination if they /are/ hidden.
07:03.04Zealand Bagginsww, why would you need an index page, just link to the category (which is what i've always said should be done anyway..)
07:03.22Bagginswwwell it can still be "ugly" bars dominating the page
07:03.37Bagginswwya zeal that's what I'm saying using category as an index page
07:03.52Zealit's "rampage!"
07:03.54Bagginswwyou could have the template box in the category
07:03.59Sky2042_afkbut that's done at the bottom anyway :/
07:04.26Zealunstoppable!
07:04.27Bagginswwif autohide was to say turn template into a small one inch bar it wouldn't be so bad
07:04.52Bagginswwbut having bars that stretch to the width of your monitor look fugly
07:05.04Sky2042_afknot as much as a one inch bar :/
07:05.17Zealespecially the the info is in the middle and you're on a wide monitor, no?
07:05.21Zeal*when the
07:05.39Sky2042_afkbut we aren't designing for big screens. it's just not sensible.
07:05.44BagginswwNah I mean have it one inch and shifted to the left on authide
07:06.02Bagginswwsince we do read from left to right
07:06.26Zealstudies on web page reading patterns are fun ;)
07:07.19Sky2042_afkah, I see Gourra
07:07.29Bagginswwa twenty inch stretched widescreen bar with a tiny bit of text in the middle mentioning the templates purpose and autohide options is fugly. Plus additionally I noticed there was a sfew seconds of delay before its autohidden
07:08.19Sky2042_afkbut most ppl don't work on that resolution nor that much screenspace. i'm using a 17inch widescreen and they look fine
07:08.37Sky2042_afkand that's a proven statistic =)
07:08.45BagginswwI'm just saying one should design things around the possibility of making it look as best as possible for all screen types
07:09.04BagginswwI work on like several different displays to make sure pages format properly
07:09.23BagginswwI access normal format monitors whenever possible to get an idea
07:09.32Bagginswwhow something looks
07:09.57Bagginswwor by changing IE's dimensions
07:11.20Aridenidang
07:11.50Aridenimm
07:12.11BagginswwPlus I take the time to ask people in here how things look on their end
07:12.18ArideniAnyone here can take a look at a very short snippet of javascript & tell me something about it?
07:12.44Sky2042_afkpcj?
07:12.47ArideniI don't know js & i need to replace certain ampersands to make it validate
07:12.51Sky2042_afkor Zeal?
07:13.06ArideniI just don't know which ampersands I can replace with &amp;
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07:14.15Bagginswwhttp://www.wowwiki.com/List_of_Shamans ok shouldn't that ben List of shamans?
07:14.43BagginswwI don't see why Shamans should be capitalized
07:14.52Bagginswwsame goes for any similar type pages
07:14.59Sky2042_afkfeel free to move it
07:15.05Sky2042_afk[[WW:BOLD]]
07:15.05[NewsBot]Sky2042_afk meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/WW:BOLD
07:15.10Bagginswwk, just wanted to make sure there wasn't any specirfic reason
07:15.23Bagginsww*specific
07:16.09Bagginswwhave to be careful with boldness and moving, ;)
07:16.47Bagginswwone could get into a fight over dreadnaught or dreadnought :p
07:17.05Bagginswwboth have been used as proper spellings :p
07:17.19BagginswwI prefer the former however as it is more traditional warcraft spelling
07:17.33Bagginswwand its a "unit" name
07:17.47Bagginswwwhere as the latter spelling is more generic rpg spelling
07:18.19Aridenioh apparently any "&" has to be changed to &amp; regardless where it is, didn't think it would work correctly
07:19.52Sky2042_afklol
07:25.41Zealtake it your using xhtml with the <script> tag, probably a better idea to have it as character data, but if it works with &amp;, meh.
07:31.33Arideniwas using onclick
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07:32.43Sky2042_afkZeal, you know html, si?
07:33.32Zealah, inline js, nvm then
07:33.41Zeal"si"?
07:33.48Gourrayes in spanish
07:33.49Sky2042_afk"yes" in spanish
07:33.58Sky2042_afkor so, as it's written without the accent
07:34.00Sky2042_afkxD
07:34.03Sky2042_afk"so"*
07:34.12Gourras?
07:34.31Sky2042_afkaye
07:35.26Zeallol
07:35.28Zealyes
07:36.54Sky2042_afkI know you looked at it before, but could you maybe look at {{navbox/core}} and {{navbox}} and tell me why the hell {{navbox/test}} isn't working? the template was copy-pasted from wp, but something isn't working on our end :/
07:44.42KeofoxSo my bf was like, "Why is there a blood elf in Honor Hold?" refering to Arator the Redeemer... I tell him he's supposed to be a half-elf, and he's like, "What? Half-elves don't exist! That's not a race!" ;p
07:44.57Sky2042_afklol
07:44.59Sky2042_afklink him the wiki page?
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07:45.22Keofox(he's also convinced that all the theramore spies and such are blood elves too I guess... he doesn't believe there's high elves either :P)
07:46.07Keofoxhe doesn't trust wikis, not "official" enough for him. ;p *snort*
07:46.09Sky2042_afkLOLOLOLOL
07:46.14Sky2042_afkthat one's even funnier.
07:46.20Sky2042_afklink him to high elf, while you're at it.
07:47.33KeofoxPersonally I have to baffle seeing as there are quest texts which explicitly describe things as high elves :P
07:48.10Sky2042_afkBagginsww: isn't there a picture of archbishop in MG or somethign?
07:48.21Bagginswwno
07:48.33Sky2042_afkarchbishop benedictus.
07:48.35Sky2042_afkgah
07:48.52Bagginswwunless he's in the picture in;
07:48.54Bagginsww[[Church of Light
07:49.00Bagginsww[[Church of Light]]
07:49.00[NewsBot]Bagginsww meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Church_of_Light
07:49.36Sky2042_afkthat won't do anyway
07:49.37Sky2042_afkdarn
07:49.48Bagginswwya
07:50.10KeofoxI'm surprised he doesn't insist that Sylvanas is a night elf, too. ;p
07:50.21Bagginswwwho?
07:50.22Bagginswwwhat?
07:50.25KeofoxMy bf.
07:50.34Sky2042_afkher bf is saying that high elves and half elves don't exist
07:50.39KeofoxHe seems to refuse to believe anything that isn't explicitly stated in WoW :P
07:50.40Sky2042_afkor said*
07:50.50Bagginswwtell your boyfriend to read Ghostlands
07:51.02Bagginswwand also quote Arator's text
07:51.32Bagginswwarator specifically states he is the son of an elf and a human
07:51.44Bagginswwand I think possibly other characters do as well
07:52.00KeofoxYes, we were freaking _standing_ in the inn while they were rambling on about him, too, for frick's sake ;p
07:52.13Bagginswwmaybe he can't read :p
07:52.31Bagginswwand did you even point him to half-elf article?
07:52.58Bagginswwand also point out to him Alleria was a high elf with green eyes
07:53.05Bagginswwand she wasn't a blood elf
07:53.20Zealok, well {{navbox}} is fine, it's the core where the issue lies. now to find it i guess.
07:53.39Sky2042_afkyeah :/
07:54.24KeofoxNo, he refuses to even look at any wikis.
07:54.28Sky2042_afkit transcludes {{tnavbar}}, but I removed the references to the function in {{tnavbar}} which were being retarded.
07:54.50Sky2042_afkKeofox: could you hit him over the head for us?
07:54.51Sky2042_afk=)
07:54.52Keofoxhe's weird. ;p
07:54.54Keofoxhehe
07:55.02Bagginswwwell then your boy friend is close minded, and ignorant, :p no offense
07:55.32Bagginswwand I say you get him a copy of Ghostlands, and oh perhaps War of the Ancients trilogy as a gift
07:55.51KeofoxI haven't even read any of the books myself.
07:55.54Bagginswwand Alliance Player's Guide is good too ;)
07:56.10Bagginswwhe'll learn a great deal about half-elves in Alliance Player's Guide
07:56.15Bagginswwand its a fun read
07:56.49Sky2042_afkdon't get him the rpg. that would be like knocking him over the head with "I think you're dorkier than I am"
07:56.51Sky2042_afk:P
07:56.56BagginswwLOL
07:57.08Bagginswwwell get it for yourself, and show him it :p
07:59.31KeofoxI think we're both pretty dorky, I mean, it's a Saturday night and we're sitting around doing quests in Outland. ;p
08:00.01Sky2042_afkwell, that mayst be true
08:00.15Sky2042_afkbut getting him an rpg corebook is pretty bad, eh? :P
08:00.23KeofoxI've not even had much chance to spend much time in Outland, and I already think I'm going to start having nightmares about fel reavers.
08:00.23Bagginswwhttp://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0743471199/ref=sib_dp_pt/002-7835820-1177630#reader-link
08:00.26Bagginswwlink for you keofox
08:00.42Bagginswwreference to half-elves right there
08:00.51Bagginswwyou just need to print it out ;)
08:00.58Zealayre these in use btw Sky2042_afk, or safe to edit?
08:01.08Bagginswwalthough its a bit off lore wise
08:01.15Bagginswwas half elves are a bit more common than that :p
08:01.16Sky2042_afkZeal: unused atm. but i'd like to move all our navboxes to that.
08:01.21Zealkk
08:01.28Bagginswwas Arator proves
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08:01.40BagginswwI mean Arator was obviously a successful birth
08:02.02Bagginswwand if you like I could give you a copy of a page discussing half-elves in the rpg
08:02.15Bagginswwa quick print screen
08:02.34Keofoxnow, what would be terrifying would be the unholy spawn of a murloc and a quilboar. *shudder*
08:02.44Bagginswwa nasty
08:02.48Bagginsww[[Mongrelman]]
08:02.48[NewsBot]Bagginsww meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Mongrelman
08:02.59Sky2042_afklol Keofox, they're just like the Devilsaurs =D
08:03.08Sky2042_afkbig, fuzzy, and very, very, quiet
08:03.13Bagginswwlol
08:04.18Bagginswwhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Charlga_Razorflank give her a npcbox alredy :p
08:04.37Sky2042_afkoops
08:04.46KeofoxWe were killing some stuff and he stopped to drink and I looked behind him and I was like, "Uh.. Fel Reaver coming this way... like, heading straight toward us." and ran off real fast. He got the hint and moved ;p
08:06.22BagginswwLOL
08:06.53Bagginswwso ya if he looks at screenshots you should also screenshot Arator's comments, and shove it in his face as well.
08:07.23Bagginswwand if he accuses you of photoshop get a new BF, because its obvious he won't trust you
08:08.02Keofoxlol
08:08.10Bagginswwtrust should be one of the most important things in a relationship ;)
08:09.03Gourraor just very, very stubborn
08:09.13KeofoxFel reavers do make this horrifying screeching sound sometimes though.
08:09.25KeofoxDevilsaurs just kinda sneak up on you ;p
08:09.44Sky2042_afkwell, that means they're better than Devilsaurs!
08:10.04GourraThe color is almost the same through whole Un'goro too which makes them even more sneakier
08:10.08Bagginswwoh use the trust angle against him, and you can wrap him around your finger.
08:10.11Gourragreen, green, green
08:11.36Sky2042_afklol
08:11.40BagginswwI don't like to eavesdrop but every now and then I've overhard couples getting into very loud spats
08:12.01Bagginswwand thing slike, "Why don't you trust me anymore" seem to be common :p
08:12.07Gourrahum
08:12.11Sky2042_afkhey, you, Zeal, yah, you. you're supposed to be fixing my workability issues, not the semantics of the styling. :P:P
08:12.34Bagginswwand then after 20 minutes of yelling they kiss and make up :p
08:12.48Gourraoh the complexity of relationships
08:12.53Bagginswwindeed
08:13.14Zealwell i don't like seeing thinks like ";&nbsp;; " in style attributes, fails validation too afaik.
08:13.19Zealand i amy trying to fix.
08:13.20Sky2042_afklol
08:13.24Zeal*am
08:13.25Sky2042_afkwell, if you must :P
08:14.41BagginswwI wonder if LoM had class listed for chargla
08:16.24KeofoxI don't want to wrap him around my finger. I want him to collar me and whip me. Um. Okay, that was probbaly more than you wanted to know :P
08:17.33Sky2042_afkkinky.
08:17.39Sky2042_afkbut if you must, you must.
08:17.43Keofoxhehe
08:19.21Bagginswwheh
08:19.55BagginswwI need a gf, :p
08:20.58Sky2042_afkwell get one then, you dork.
08:21.02BagginswwI need someone to have a good healthy arguement with from time to time. ...While saying yes dear, yes dear.~~~~
08:21.17Bagginswwdoesn't know why I tried to sign my post :p
08:21.25Bagginswwforce of habit, :p
08:22.48BagginswwI think the problem is I'm too nice... They always just want to be a friend. Perhaps if I was just a bit more "bad" it would help...
08:23.13Sky2042_afkBagginsww: no.
08:23.17KeofoxHow about a nice dominatrix? At least they're honest about wanting to control you.
08:23.30Bagginswwlol
08:25.15Sky2042_afkhttp://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Template:Navbox/test&diff=next&oldid=1108112 wtf? you can do cross-history diffs
08:25.17Sky2042_afkxD
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08:26.19ZealO_o
08:26.20Zeallol
08:26.59Sky2042_afkit's becomes of &diff=next, but damn if that isn't weird
08:27.58Zealok, give up, no idea sky
08:28.17Zealfor w/e reason, mediawiki is throwing a fit and changing the code into plain text.
08:28.25Zealparser fails.
08:28.47Zealactually, one last idea.
08:29.26Sky2042_afkin other words, it's because of a bug that wowwiki has that wp doesn't
08:29.27Sky2042_afksigh.
08:31.15Zealrofl
08:31.21Zeal@latest edit
08:32.02Bagginswwit would be kinda cool that when blizzard "ends wow" they just make them free servers, and run them closer to battle.net
08:32.28Sky2042_afkwell, that didn't help much zeal
08:32.29Sky2042_afkxDE
08:32.31Bagginswwnot so much like battle.net, just keeping them alive
08:32.31Sky2042_afkxD
08:32.51Bagginswwrather than closing down the servers
08:32.59Bagginswwallow anyone who wants to play to play
08:34.59Sky2042_afkZeal: must be right. there's something wrong with the parserfunctions + html code
08:35.03Sky2042_afkI wonder...
08:35.36Sky2042_afkhold up Zeal, gonna try something
08:36.15Sky2042_afkhmm
08:36.18Sky2042_afknvm
08:36.22Sky2042_afkcontinue at it
08:36.57Zealwell found out which bit of code it is
08:38.01Sky2042_afkmmm?
08:38.18Sky2042_afkwhich, oh dearest of zealots?
08:39.02Zeal{{#if:{{{l1|}}}|<tr>{{#if:{{{g1|}}}|<th>{{{g1}}}</th>}}<td colspan="1" style="text-align:left;">{{{l1|}}}</td></tr>}}
08:39.10Zealsomething it doesn't like about that.
08:41.20Zealparser functions are resolving both of those fine, but for some reason the output ends up as text.
08:42.14Sky2042_afkit's the th
08:42.16Sky2042_afk:/
08:43.03Zealwait a sec.
08:43.46Sky2042_afklol
08:43.50Sky2042_afknow they've disappeared completely.
08:44.27Zealargh
08:44.47Zealthought it was the new liens fo the template for a sec
08:44.48Sky2042_afkwhich, I think is an overall improvement
08:44.50Zealbut nope : /
08:51.28Zealok, done testing
08:52.14Sky2042_afkin other words, blame the system
08:52.16Zealit's the <th> and <td>, for w/e reason i guess parser functions is converting to character data when it sees them.
08:52.42Sky2042_afksomething to stick on WW:SR i guess :/
08:52.53Zealindeed
08:53.42Sky2042_afkwhich means it's either a buggy version of ParserFunctions we're using, or the bug was hotfixed on wp and we just need to upgrade one or the other or both
08:53.48Sky2042_afkgah
08:54.35Zeal<table>{{#if:moo|<tr><th>Hello</th></tr>}}</table>
08:54.40Zealthere's your test case
08:54.46Zealthat will screw up
08:56.21Zealif the mediawiki parser failing, or parserfunctions failing before can even mediawiki parse the html. doubt it's both.
08:56.26Zeal*it's
08:56.37Zeal*mediawiki can even
08:56.48Sky2042_afkhttp://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=WoWWiki%3AServer_requests&diff=1108179&oldid=1098294 listed
08:57.41Zeallet me tack on the test case otherwise someone might get lost and waste time checking your code again :p
08:58.15Sky2042_afkfeel free to
08:58.32Sky2042_afkI doubt it though. TOR's pretty good about that; I'd just say it was extensively tested
09:00.05Zealmeh
09:00.09Zealeasy enough anways
09:00.18Bagginswwbtw there is there way to make content boxes horizontal, and with collumns?
09:00.19Zealbugger, time : /
09:00.36Zealthey already do
09:00.38Bagginswwfor especially long pages with lots of sections :p
09:00.55Bagginswwhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Warlock
09:01.22Sky2042_afkcontent boxes?...
09:01.30Sky2042_afkTOC?
09:01.31Bagginswwindex
09:01.44Sky2042_afkthere's a way to force it that way, I believe, but no reason to do so.
09:01.52Zealone of said i ideas i didn't post was what i said yesterday, make them semantically correct, and then style them in a flexable format, eg. floated list tree.
09:01.55Bagginswwwell it would be useful for some pages
09:01.57Bagginswwlike that one
09:02.03Bagginswwthere is alot of unused space there
09:02.17Bagginswwand if you try toc right it'll screw up with that template
09:02.37Bagginswwso if could make it horizontal and say 3 or 4 collumns
09:02.40Zealhttp://www.wowwiki.com/User:Zeal/Sandbox/WoWWiki:Directory_%28Icons%29
09:02.54Bagginswwit would avoid the waisted space
09:03.17Sky2042_afkZeal: you talk with the devs of MediaWiki about that, eh? Or get to work on the actual software. :P
09:03.41Zealrequires reformatting everytime you need to add/remove from the list of links though baggins
09:04.34Bagginswwhmm
09:04.37Zealwhy i hate the idea of tables and especially when people start splitting them into columns, as that isn't felxable and screws over people at low resolutions.
09:05.35Sky2042_afklol
09:05.39Sky2042_afk<table> works inside it
09:06.55Zealyuup
09:07.12Sky2042_afkand makes the rest of it work
09:07.21Zealwhich makes me suspect mw is to blame, as that smells of poor html parsing for certain tags.
09:07.25Sky2042_afkso I guess if we wrap the entire thing in a giant {{#if}}?... :D
09:08.10Zealbut you'd have to create a new table for every single {{#if}} and combos of them :P
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09:24.05Zealhave i taken photoshop's history window for granted or is there some reason illustrator doesn't have one?
09:24.20Zealplus as with ps, it only have 1 state of undo/redo
09:24.25Zeal*has
09:24.33Zealretarded thing...
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09:42.54Zealnow it goes and crashes while saving.. fgg >_<;;
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10:19.22Zealgreat, now photoshop crashed while exporting too : /
10:19.28Zealnn all
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11:47.37Bagginswwstill broken :p
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11:52.46sacarascwasn't the upgrading stuff meant to be done about now?
11:53.12Bagginswwthat could be it
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11:56.21Bagginswwya
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14:08.59foxlitwin!
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14:21.06foxlitfun.
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14:39.44Bagginswwhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Onyxia_%28tactics%29 that page really should have a screenshot, not a drawn art
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14:49.34Reaperuhm
14:49.36Reapercan someone help me
14:51.07Reaperanyone here?
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14:55.26Fisker-i think it's fine Bagginsww :o
14:55.50Bagginswwnah tactics pages need the ingame shots with the nitty gritty of backgrounds seen ;)
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15:10.14Avilelol >.<
15:13.46Kirkburn|afkWelcome, Avile
15:19.42Kirkburn|afkBack to lunch
15:21.00AvileThank you :o
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16:54.02winkillerany idea ehere the big ones are? http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:IconSmall_Rogue.gif
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17:06.46foxlitwinkiller: fair question, sec
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17:07.07winkillerand why the class icons are gif and not png :P
17:07.23foxlitThere is no difference for them
17:07.46foxlithttp://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Class_Icon_Druid_Large
17:08.51winkillerarg, thanks
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17:09.43foxlitI wonder, though
17:09.53foxlitThere should be 64x64 ones somewhere
17:10.26winkilleryeah. thought so too
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17:54.28Sky2042Kirkburn|afk: are you still afk?
17:54.36Kirkburn|afkwhy?
17:54.43Sky2042would you mind giving Jiyambi the patrollers flag?
17:57.22Kirkburn|afkSky2042, your sandbox thing, not seeing anything different
17:57.41Sky2042click the blue link in the infobox
17:59.11Kirkburn|afkNot very meaningful as a link
17:59.27Sky2042heh
17:59.38Kirkburn|afkThat link should, by simple logic, take you to the end boss page, or to a page describing what an end boss is
17:59.44Sky2042true
17:59.49Sky2042again, just a concept
18:00.13Sky2042It's what Gourra was doing without the bar at the top.
18:00.56Kirkburn|afkThe bosses pretty much *have* to be a list
18:01.24Kirkburn|afkimo, at least
18:01.31Sky2042then say that in the discussion.
18:01.37Kirkburn|afkI already did
18:02.03Kirkburn|afk"I do agree more standardisation is useful, but recall why people visit instance pages in the first place - as a guide. Think of them as pages of a strategy guide, and it becomes apparent the navigation is very important, and especially that it is in order of appearance - which works better as a list."
18:02.32Sky2042lol
18:05.22Kirkburn|afkI've clarified some points on the VP, then
18:06.04Sky2042I think maybe I just missed it.
18:08.35Kirkburn|afkAh, and added a section on infoboxes to the MoS, didn't realise it wasn't referred to on it's own previously
18:08.39Kirkburn|afk*its
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18:15.46Kirkburn|afkBtw, slowwiki still?
18:15.54Sky2042not atm
18:15.58Kirkburn|afkcool
18:22.26Sky2042gah
18:26.34Sky2042foxlit: you said that Itemlink/Display and Itemlink/Pure aren't used, correct/
18:26.36Sky2042?
18:26.52foxlityes
18:36.28Sky2042<td> is a row, isn't it?
18:36.32Sky2042or a cell?
18:36.37Sky2042row
18:36.37foxlitcell
18:36.43Sky2042no, cell
18:36.44Sky2042heh
18:40.29Lukian<tr> table row, <td> table data
18:46.03Sky2042well, damn
18:46.09Sky2042I just can't get the header to work.
18:47.47Sky2042it's not taking the heading for some reason :/
18:49.59laindirsky2042, what seems to be the trouble?
18:50.07pcjlol
18:50.53Sky2042laindir: lol. well, ParserFunctions aren't taking <tr><th><td><span> or <div>, so I'm trying to cheat the code on http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Navbox/core
18:51.02Sky2042because ParserFunctions suck for the moment.
18:51.47laindiryikes o.O
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18:54.02laindirI probably haven't been following this conversation well enough to even ask this... but, is a navbox really going to contain tabular data?
18:54.13Sky2042laindir: why?
18:54.33Sky2042and no, there has been conversation, so you had no conversation to follow =)
18:54.54Kirkburn|afks/been/been no/
18:55.15Sky2042lol
18:55.19Sky2042s/been/been no/
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18:55.54laindirahhh... well it just seems to me that the information in a navbox would seldom if ever require a table contextually, and I'd hate to see it used just for layout ~.^ (sorry, separation of style and content is kind of a pet peeve of mine)
18:58.56pcjyou and zeal should hang out sometime
18:59.09laindirlol
18:59.17pcjoh god zeal got even more annoying every time you type his name
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19:16.33Kirkburn|afklaindir, reason would possibly be for listing bosses
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19:17.05Kirkburn|afkWhich could reasonably be described as data
19:17.28laindirkirkburn|afk, wouldn't an unordered list with headings be better suited?
19:17.47Kirkburn|afkMost infoboxes and such are tables on the wiki for compatability and ease of use - though I know it's not ideal
19:18.06Kirkburn|afklaindir, as a template, not particularly
19:19.06laindirvery well, I may not like it, but I guess I have no business complaining about it unless I'm willing to try to fix it XD
19:20.04Kirkburn|afkHey, no problem with criticism :)
19:22.35Kirkburn|afkSo long as you don't do the "wikipedia do it like this, so it must be wrong" thing ;)
19:22.47laindirlol, never
19:23.05laindirI just think web standards fall into the category of "really good ideas"
19:23.46Sky2042no they don't
19:23.49Sky2042what are you on?
19:23.50Sky2042:P
19:24.06laindirhehe
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19:27.48Kirkburn|afkProblem with that and templates is that they wont really reduce to readable text without css structure, thus tables can make more sense
19:28.06Kirkburn|afkHmm, scratch that
19:29.59Kirkburn|afkReported the WarIII thing btw, Sky
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19:33.42laindirkirkburn|afk, could you point me to a typical example on the wiki? I'd like to make sure I'm not full of shit, lol
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19:35.52Sky2042Kirkburn|afk: thx
19:40.17Sky2042damn jobqueue
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19:43.03Kirkburn|afkwarcraftiii thing should be fixed again :)
19:44.36Sky2042how did it come unfixed?
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19:47.48Kirkburn|afkCleanup of Apache stuff probably undid it
19:48.20foxlit!jobqueue
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19:49.06foxlitIt's broken?
19:50.02Sky2042foxlit: not the jobqueue
19:50.04Sky2042lol
19:51.05Kirkburn|afkThough the jobqueue is rather slow atm
19:51.26Kirkburn|afkAnother thing Nef loves to hear about :)
19:52.57Kirkburn|afkAs I have told him - "But apart from that, everything is good - just everyone's on fire, the house is radioactive, the rats are at the door and the goblins have stolen the children."
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19:54.40Sky2042Kirkburn|afk: need upgrade =[
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19:55.34Kirkburn|afk100% CPU is 100% CPU apparently :P
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19:56.06pcjShe canna' take much more o' this, cap'n!
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19:57.24pcjSometimes I wonder if some of the letters should be merged into one page http://www.wowwiki.com/Events/J
19:58.02Kirkburn|afkYou'll need to talk to Mikk iirc
19:58.13Sky2042pcj: go ahead
19:58.24Kirkburn|afk*cough*
19:58.28pcjWow, talk about confusing signals
19:58.38Sky2042just rd the old pages
19:58.46Kirkburn|afkI'm pretty sure Mikk's bot edits them
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19:58.58pcjGuess I should ask Fandy then
19:59.23Kirkburn|afkOr check who edits the pages, and see if it's Mikk, then ask Mikk
19:59.33Sky2042Fandy might be safe
19:59.35Sky2042=D
20:00.41Kirkburn|afkAh, sec
20:00.47Kirkburn|afkThe by category pages are bot edited
20:01.05Kirkburn|afkhttp://www.wowwiki.com/User:Mikkbot
20:01.14Kirkburn|afki.e. ask Mikk
20:01.26winkillerhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Class_Icon_Druid_Large <- anyone know sif we got those in 64x64?
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20:19.16SolaPanreminder #wikia-gaming chat in 40 min!
20:21.27Kirkburn|afkPanSola, oh ... yeah. I've just been having a second christmas, totally missing days :)
20:21.31PanSolad-:
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20:21.41KirkburnThat didn't ping me :P
20:21.54PanSolainteresting
20:22.07KirkburnHas to be within a message for this client (Xchat)
20:22.20KirkburnAnd here was me, planning on finshing packing, then playing Vice City
20:22.40PanSolayou still can d-:
20:22.46winkillerah, the joy of linux
20:22.47winkillerfor f in `ls *.gif`; do X=`echo $f | cut -d . -f 1`; convert $f 'x/'${X}'.png'; done
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20:25.06sacarascthat's just plain wrong
20:25.13winkillerit just plain worked :P
20:25.14laindir=D ...CSS3 will have dynamic columns!
20:25.21sacarascfor f in *.gif ...
20:25.26sacarascthat's how you should do it
20:25.29winkillercss3 is a myth
20:25.33winkillerI don't care for one time
20:25.38winkillerat least it's no useless use of cat
20:26.06Kirkburn:(
20:26.09KirkburnKITTEH!
20:27.16sacarascalso X=$(basename ${f} .gif) is nicer ;p
20:27.37laindirwinkiller, so is css2 :(
20:27.58*** topic/#wowwiki by Kirkburn -> Chan rules: http://tinyurl.com/36u82j - UI questions: #wowi-lounge - We are an official fan site, obey the ToU! || We are an Alexa top 1000 website! || Next #wikia-gaming chat January 6th, 9 PM (UTC)
20:33.49foxlitGNU TeXmacs is a free wysiwyw (what you see is what you want) editing platform...
20:35.58winkillerpf, basename
20:36.15winkillerwhich would be x.gif anyway
20:39.40[NewsBot]Dark Legacy: #124:Marshal - http://www.darklegacycomics.com/124.html
20:42.41Kirkburnpcj, btw, to contact Mikk, he often visits #wowace
20:42.45Kirkburn~seen Mikk
20:42.49infobotmikk <n=Administ@WoWUIDev/mikk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowwiki, 18d 10h 38m 2s ago, saying: 'you wouldn't believe the eyes we get out in the streets when we forget ourselves and talk shop over lunch etc'.
20:43.04Kirkburno_O
20:43.15pcjnot too often
20:44.48Kirkburnodd, might be away for Xmas
20:45.08KirkburnMikkbot is still going in any case
20:45.25KirkburnHe's a WowAce admin these days
20:46.11KirkburnI find it pretty cool how many areas of http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Howling_Fjord we already know
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21:00.21Fisker-wut chat is that Kirkburn ? :O
21:02.11KeolahI had the most dorky dream last night.
21:02.23KeolahI dreamed I was in Zangarmarsh, using a hand-held computer to play City of Heroes.
21:02.59pcjlol
21:13.05Bagginswwhttp://www.wowwiki.com/List_of_warlocks that needs to be split
21:13.18Bagginswwnon alligned characters or enemies need to be removed form the alliance or horde lists
21:13.25BagginswwI don't mean a page split
21:13.41Bagginswwbut just moving stuff into the other section
21:26.24[NewsBot]WoW Insider: AddOn Spotlight: Recount - http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/01/06/addon-spotlight-recount/
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22:12.05pcj!trcount Template:Seealso
22:12.08pcjbah
22:15.36Kirkburnzomg, teh conservapedia is down, where will I get my lulz?
22:19.26Sandwichman2448seems fine to me.
22:22.09pcjtry uncyclopedia, should be about the same
22:22.19Fisker-NO NO AND NO
22:22.24Fisker-ENCYCLOPEDIA DRAMATICA
22:22.25Fisker-NOW
22:22.30Fisker-anything else = fail
22:22.44pcjfisker wouldn't you fall in the "anything else" category
22:23.17Fisker-nope
22:24.01Fisker-choose your next words wisely persian
22:24.23pcjwell why not
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22:50.35Keolah... is there any reason why a macro would randomly change my sound volume? :p
22:51.20sacarascbecause you made it do that?
22:51.51KeolahI did not make it change my sound volume. :P
22:51.57KeolahFor one thing I wouldn't even know how to do that :p
22:52.04KeolahIt's freaking trying to cast Flash of Light. :P
22:52.40pcjok kirkburn i made the instance navigation templates 10em per [[WW:MOS]] but http://www.wowwiki.com/Lord_Skwol still looks terrible
22:52.48KeolahAnd hell, it worked fine when I tested it earlier.
22:53.00KeolahAnd now it's not only not casting Flash of Light, it's turning off my sound volume.
22:53.16KeolahSo, what the hell? :p
22:54.02KeolahWhen another almost identical macro works just fine?
22:54.19pcjMaybe it's not the macro?
22:54.27KeolahThis maketh no sense.
22:54.51Kirkburnpcj, shwaa?
22:55.02KirkburnI didn't say make them 10em o_O
22:55.22pcjYou interepreted the MOS to say 10em
22:55.32KirkburnNo, I said less than 10em
22:55.40pcj...ok so they'll be thinner
22:55.43pcjand longer
22:56.04KirkburnBah
22:56.26KirkburnAnyway, the outdoor raid bosses looks ripe for turning into a horizontal one
22:56.39pcjyay
22:57.12kd3woo for surprise "go drive 200 miles to see your grandparents, /now/" phonecalls
22:57.19Kirkburno_O
22:58.47Kirkburnpcj, I actually thought 10em would be wide >_<
22:58.53pcjgg
22:59.52pcjWell, it certainly fits the MOS definition of "thin" :P
23:02.32[NewsBot]WoW Insider: All the World's a Stage: Something to remember me by - http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/01/06/all-the-worlds-a-stage-something-to-remember-me-by/
23:02.38|Pixel|hmmm...
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23:02.48winkillersometimes I just don't get Armory
23:02.57winkillerit works in all browsers one day
23:03.01winkillerand in none the other
23:03.09|Pixel|it's just a matter of "lag"
23:03.16|Pixel|and "none" is wrong
23:03.24|Pixel|it works perfectly on opera, at all time
23:03.32|Pixel|because the xml/xslt rendering is done server-side
23:03.41|Pixel|which is exactly what's hanging up firefox
23:03.57|Pixel|because of a strange lag which makes ff getting the XML, but not the XSL
23:04.01winkillernope, won't load in opera today
23:04.01|Pixel|or just partially or so
23:04.06|Pixel|really ?
23:04.09|Pixel|opera 10 maybe ?
23:04.10winkillerreally
23:04.12winkiller9
23:04.14|Pixel|hmmmmmmmm
23:04.16|Pixel|funny
23:04.19winkillerit loads in FF3
23:04.23winkillerbut without tooltips
23:04.27|Pixel|yes
23:04.30winkillerand crashes IE7 and FF2
23:04.37|Pixel|tooltips is a piece of shit the way they are handled
23:04.45winkillerarnory is shit :)
23:04.52|Pixel|they check the browser against a very short list of browsers
23:05.09|Pixel|then implements a very crappy ajax query depending on the browser
23:05.19|Pixel|and since the browser list matches like 10% of the real browsers around
23:05.22winkillerhm, faking user agent?
23:05.23|Pixel|it never works properly
23:05.25|Pixel|yes
23:05.30|Pixel|faking user agent works perfectly
23:05.33winkillerwhat is good? :9
23:05.42Fisker-well there's only 2 real web browsers
23:05.44|Pixel|tbh, I'm faking ff2 all the time
23:05.45Fisker-(hoho trolling)
23:05.58winkillerk, will do that then in opera
23:06.08|Pixel|err
23:06.09winkillerFisker-: netscape 4 is DEAD, man
23:06.14|Pixel|I meant doing it in ff3 =)
23:06.21winkillerah ok :P
23:06.21|Pixel|faking ff2 from ff3
23:06.33|Pixel|anyway, hm
23:06.42Fisker-winkiller i meant IE
23:06.42Fisker-and Opera >O
23:06.43Fisker-:O
23:06.45|Pixel|here's the kind of toy I built today
23:06.53|Pixel|http://grumpycoder.net/signatures/test/signature.xml
23:06.55|Pixel|http://grumpycoder.net/signatures/test/signature.jpg
23:07.09|Pixel|the jpg file beeing built from the xml file
23:07.25winkillerthat's what I built today: http://f5n.de/eu_Jetsam.png
23:07.43|Pixel|:)
23:08.10winkillersunday = boredom :P
23:08.21winkillerit looks this shit because I have to do a paper atm
23:08.27winkillerand it was just the relax breaks
23:09.19winkilleryours is cool indeed
23:09.26Fisker-so wtf?
23:09.36Fisker-You're making an actual view of the character's gear?
23:09.55winkillerwith what tools?
23:10.21|Pixel|Fisker-: yes ^^
23:10.30|Pixel|winkiller: 100% custom code
23:10.33Fisker-how the hell, and why haven't Blizzard already done that?
23:10.41winkillerwell, languages etc
23:10.49|Pixel|winkiller: C++ / Lua
23:10.56winkillernive
23:10.57winkiller*v
23:10.58winkiller*c
23:11.10|Pixel|http://grumpycoder.net/signatures/generate.html
23:11.37Fisker-doesn't show up for me :(
23:11.40Fisker-oh
23:11.42Fisker-armory down
23:11.54|Pixel|note: the website itself you can see works using a custom C++ html engine, powered by Lua ^^
23:12.02|Pixel|custom C++ http engine even
23:12.17|Pixel|hm, wait
23:12.21|Pixel|there's an error spitting out
23:12.44Fisker-so you're not doing anything cool internal stuff
23:12.50|Pixel|?
23:12.55Fisker-you've basically made a webapp that renders characters based on gear
23:12.59Fisker-and pull it from there?
23:13.16|Pixel|'basically', yes
23:13.35|Pixel|aack
23:13.50winkillerI prefer to have the stuff running on webserver X + php :P
23:15.38|Pixel|fixed...
23:15.48winkillersweet
23:15.55winkillerhttp://grumpycoder.net/signatures/10892991e1b081f61a824e7cb87cce88/signature.jpg
23:16.00winkillerit works :P
23:16.06|Pixel|:)
23:16.17Fisker-holy shit
23:16.19Fisker-you're fucking awesome
23:16.24|Pixel|^^
23:16.36Fisker-now you just need to pull tabard info :D
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23:16.39Fisker-http://grumpycoder.net/signatures/41eedd182b5b1c0e850f557b01bfc40a/signature.jpg
23:16.42|Pixel|ha ha ha
23:16.54|Pixel|yeah, that and a lot of other things :)
23:17.02Fisker-does it update itself btw?
23:17.06|Pixel|yes
23:17.09|Pixel|every hours
23:17.25|Pixel|you can kill the cache by going on http://grumpycoder.net/signatures/41eedd182b5b1c0e850f557b01bfc40a/taint.txt
23:17.34pcjlol fail? http://grumpycoder.net/signatures/31f4ff43d568bc3a5533e6eaa99ab38a/signature.jpg
23:17.38|Pixel|which will force an armory refresh next time you pull the picture
23:17.45|Pixel|HA HA HA
23:17.47|Pixel|indeed pcj =)
23:17.51|Pixel|armory fetching failulre
23:17.54|Pixel|failure even
23:18.30|Pixel|hmm
23:19.30Fisker-lol
23:19.34Fisker-did we just overload your server?
23:19.38|Pixel|http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Maelstrom&n=Dernham
23:19.48|Pixel|Character Data Unavailable
23:19.49Fisker-yeah
23:19.49|Pixel|there :)
23:19.51Fisker-us armory fails
23:19.54|Pixel|yes
23:19.58|Pixel|and I even know why ^^
23:20.02|Pixel|which is very stupid
23:20.08|Pixel|oh, nice
23:20.11|Pixel|server segfaulted
23:20.17sacarasclols
23:20.48|Pixel|last thing in the logs is http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Darkmoon Faire&n=Yanil
23:20.54|Pixel|<3 the space
23:21.00Fisker->D
23:21.02Fisker-:D
23:21.18|Pixel|restarting
23:21.25|Pixel|will take some time to reload all the mpq files
23:22.15Fisker-i must say, i came :O
23:22.19Fisker-you should release that
23:22.22Fisker-for fucking epic
23:22.29|Pixel|^^
23:22.32|Pixel|restarted
23:22.36|Pixel|feel free to play with it
23:22.56|Pixel|if one can redo the segfault, I wrapped the execution through gdb so I can get a stack trace next time
23:22.59Fisker-JUST NO SPACES
23:23.13|Pixel|I dunno
23:23.24|Pixel|this sounds strange that the code crashed because of that :0
23:23.27Kirkburnholy hell
23:23.28sacarascFisker-: you should stop spaces being bad ;p
23:23.35KirkburnThat's awesome
23:23.37Fisker-i agree Kirkburn
23:23.38Fisker-Hell is holy
23:24.13|Pixel|^^
23:24.37|Pixel|anyway, this surely has still alot of bugs
23:24.40|Pixel|very experimental stuff
23:25.05|Pixel|but I love the most my "inline Lua code" feature with OpenGL statements :P
23:25.21|Pixel|http://grumpycoder.net/signatures/test/signature.xml  <--  here, that is
23:25.21Fisker-i'm, what's the word, ah yeah, flummoxed over the abillity to do that :O
23:25.41Fisker-and yeah flummoxed is a word :(
23:25.45|Pixel|^^
23:25.51Fisker-and no i didn't know until a few days ago :(
23:26.20DuTempeteOhhhhhh the hangover...
23:26.29|Pixel|well, feel free to toy with it guys
23:26.36|Pixel|I'd love to have bug reports :)
23:26.38Fisker-http://grumpycoder.net/signatures/f438f2d3685a471b15e1d0e4796a6a91/signature.jpg <-bug btw
23:26.44Fisker-it's showing stormherald and a default axe
23:27.00|Pixel|oh, yeah:
23:27.22Fisker-ah
23:27.22KirkburnIt's anti-Fisker?
23:27.24Fisker-it's a thrown weapon
23:27.38|Pixel|sheath of weapons isn't properly implementer
23:27.42|Pixel|implemented
23:27.51|Pixel|so they are binded to some default positions for now
23:28.29|Pixel|there's still alot of work to do :)
23:28.40|Pixel|oh and
23:28.44|Pixel|if you wanna play hard
23:28.52winkilleruhm, how to fake user agent in FF3
23:28.53pcjIs US armory completely borked then?
23:29.14Fisker-tried about:config winkiller or something like that?
23:29.22winkillermore like addon
23:29.24|Pixel|Fisker-: http://grumpycoder.net/signatures/eu/Ravencrest/Holgerdk/frame.jpg
23:29.46|Pixel|if you get a proxy error, just retry, but please don't hammer too much this URL scheme
23:29.53|Pixel|because pictures are in 2048x2048 ;)
23:29.56|Pixel|for debugging purposes ^^
23:29.58Fisker-that's so fucking cool :P
23:30.45Fisker-btw
23:30.49Fisker-The proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream server.
23:30.50Fisker-The proxy server could not handle the request GET /signatures/eu/Ravencrest/Fiskerdin/frame.jpg.
23:30.54Fisker-so i guess i keep retrying_ >P
23:30.55Fisker-:P
23:31.38|Pixel|yes ^^
23:31.56|Pixel|you should eventually get something after some retries
23:32.00Fisker-yeah
23:32.18Fisker-my blood elf looks a bit ugly :(
23:32.19|Pixel|but the image is so big that the reverse proxy that is in front timeouts waiting for the internal C++ server to compute it
23:32.32|Pixel|yes; BE eyes is badly handled for now
23:32.36|Pixel|I guess that's because of the... errr
23:32.41|Pixel|what's the english name of it -.-
23:32.47|Pixel|"paupire" in french
23:33.12Fisker-eyelids :o
23:33.17|Pixel|yes
23:33.32|Pixel|I guess the eyelids are buggy on the BE models for now
23:33.36Fisker-man
23:33.37|Pixel|which makes it look strange
23:33.55Fisker-if i hadn't already jumped the gun with some porn earlier, amirite Kirkburn?
23:34.38Fisker-don't be shy Kirkburn :O
23:35.01Kirkburno_O
23:35.27winkillerI'd suggest to turn it down a bit then :P
23:35.48|Pixel|:)
23:35.50|Pixel|anyway
23:35.53|Pixel|gotta go to sleep now
23:35.56|Pixel|cya
23:36.08Kirkburn:(
23:36.12Fisker-aww :(
23:36.15Kirkburnnight |Pixel|!
23:36.15Fisker-same here actually
23:36.19Fisker-but that site kept me up
23:36.22KirkburnMe too :P
23:36.23Fisker-it was awesome :P
23:36.30Fisker-going to sleep now then :O
23:36.30DuTempeteKirkburn.  Go to sleep.
23:36.40|Pixel|hehe
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23:37.01DuTempeteIf you miss your flight because you didn't wake up, I'm going to have you drawn and quartered.
23:37.15pcjlol
23:37.18winkillerThe server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later.
23:37.26KirkburnDuTempete, :P
23:37.42DuTempetegrrrr :P
23:39.19DuTempetewow... interesting pcj.
23:39.20KirkburnO_O
23:39.38Kirkburnwhat in heck??
23:40.10DuTempeteugh... I need to go to sleep, myself.
23:40.14pcjhttp://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#Criticism_of_WoWWiki
23:40.16DuTempeteTummy is acting up again.
23:40.39pcjhope you feel better DuTempete
23:41.03KirkburnI really hope that doesn't turn into a flame fest, or give people a focus to hate on the site
23:41.14DuTempeteyeah...
23:41.16KirkburnSo do I :P
23:42.29DuTempeteOff with you!
23:42.34KirkburnSee you all in Chicago!
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23:48.54pcjnight DuTempete
23:49.01zZzTempetenight :)
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