IRC log for #wowwiki on 20080103

00:00.11KirkburnGood thing I still had some spare critters around :P
00:00.52Bagginswwheh heh
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00:08.24[NewsBot]WoW Insider: World of WarCrafts: Healthstone - http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/01/02/world-of-warcrafts-healthstone/
00:10.25Oselol, a newsbot?
00:13.01Sandwichman2448Yes, a newsbot.
00:14.04Osekewl
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00:15.52Sandwichman2448[[Dead Scar]]
00:15.53[NewsBot]Sandwichman2448 meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Dead_Scar
00:16.08Sandwichman2448See the video?
00:16.11Sandwichman2448LOL
00:17.12Pzykpsh
00:17.28Pzykproof that paladins are OP
00:17.41Osewhat template can I put on something that is not finished?
00:18.09Oseto show that it isn't
00:18.14Pzykstub?
00:18.22Sandwichman2448construction?
00:18.44Oseconstruction worked :)
00:20.33pcj_2ask in #wowi-lounge
00:20.36pcj_2...
00:20.42pcj_2removing that macro now
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00:21.29pcjbah
00:21.33Pzyksuddenly!
00:21.35Pzykclones!
00:21.41pcjlol
00:21.41Pzykthousands of them!
00:21.52Sandwichman2448thousands?
00:25.47pcjthey should celebrate martin luther king jr. day in wow
00:26.04Sandwichman2448Why?
00:26.15pcjbecause january needs more holidays
00:27.18Sandwichman2448Hm...
00:28.18[NewsBot]BlizzPlanet: BlizzCast Gearing Up - http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=1975
00:28.21[NewsBot]BlizzPlanet: Warcraft: Dawn of Chaos Mod - February Release - http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=1974
00:30.28Sky2042_afkpcj: blocked him.
00:30.34Sky2042_afkin case you missed it.
00:30.39pcjlol and kd3 warned him
00:31.13Sky2042_afkoh well.
00:31.52foxlithttp://www.wowwiki.com/Image:XCoreiel.jpg
00:31.54foxlitmm?
00:32.16Sandwichman2448What?
00:32.18pcjhawt
00:32.35Sandwichman2448It was removed.
00:32.41Sandwichman2448From the page.
00:32.54foxlitYeah, that took a bit of digging
00:33.03Sky2042_afkshe requested in the page history taht we not display her picture. We originally removed it because we didn't want blizzard eating us, but since she's quit... :/
00:33.43Pzykcoreiel quit?
00:33.59Sky2042_afkat some point, yes, feathers stopped working for blizzard as a CM
00:34.05Sky2042_afkin June or something like that
00:34.09Sky2042_afk[[Coreiel]]
00:34.09[NewsBot]Sky2042_afk meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Coreiel
00:34.54pcjhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Contributions/Coreiel
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00:36.39foxlit"AQ40 jumped back up to crappy trash, pre-emps trash is supposed to be TERRIBLE. Or is that post-emps. Whatever, I never got that far in AQ40. "
00:37.43foxlitSilly, AQ40 trash was much <3
00:38.00Sandwichman2448Hmm...
00:38.07foxlitEspecially the "haha, got you" packs between twin emps and ouro
00:38.41kd3</3 post-emps trash
00:39.25foxlitWas it the silence, aoe fear, mana burn, charges for large amounts of damage, buffs, or the sheer tanking requirements that annoy you?
00:39.38foxlitOh, and I forget Mind Control.
00:40.28foxlitThat trash was just filled with <3 :)
00:40.58foxlitThunderclap/Meteor combo was awesome, too
00:41.27foxlitbut that's pre-emps; the anubisathes after them were disappointingly plain
00:41.49Sandwichman2448Was there lava in AQ40?
00:41.54foxlitNo
00:44.51Sandwichman2448Lore says there is. LIES!
00:45.09PzykAnswer: Invisible lava!
00:45.32pcj...Or you just don't see the lava
00:45.49foxlitIt was impossible to kill people following you in AQ40
00:45.54Sandwichman2448Blind?
00:45.57foxlitThe C'Thun corpserun was made of fun
00:46.45kd3especially before we got the teleports to the emps/c'thun rooms
00:47.23foxlitNothing like a 40-bug train!
00:48.17pcjlol u died on c'thun
00:48.24pcjeasiest old god ever
00:48.29foxlitWe died pulling c'thun, too
00:48.36kd3green beam in the raid!
00:48.41Sandwichman2448No, that is the one in Darkshore.
00:49.00pcjthat one's already dead
00:49.02foxlit"No, I'm absolutely positive I can ride to the opposite side of the door!"
00:49.14kd3you can, if you stick to the far wall
00:49.30foxlitYou can even if you don't
00:49.34Sandwichman2448Yes, Pcj. So it is easy.
00:49.48foxlitBut it's relatively easy to accidentally go on a detour
00:56.24pcjfoxlit i think it was a bad idea to update only those set pages with elinks-set
00:56.58foxlitWell, it was a lot cheaper, and nobody noticed the results until it was too late :)
00:57.50pcjyeah i bet
01:00.02foxlitAnything in particular bugging you at the moment?
01:01.00pcjLol, everytime i hit random page and a set item pops up the set's borked is all
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01:03.14foxlitIf wiki didn't suck, I could bot those relatively nicely
01:04.46foxlitbtw, if you're having bater wiki latency than me
01:04.59foxlit[[Tier 2 source]] could use some {{mob}} fixes :)
01:05.00[NewsBot]foxlit meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Tier_2_source
01:05.24pcjIt could also be created?
01:05.26foxlit[[Tier 2 Source]]
01:05.26[NewsBot]foxlit meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Tier_2_Source
01:05.32foxlitCapitalization is evil
01:05.42pcjcase-sensitivity is evil
01:06.11pcjWhat fixes
01:06.21foxlitlevel, icon
01:06.49pcjThose are all raid bosses, level would be very meaningful
01:07.10foxlit63R :)
01:07.19pcjk
01:07.26foxlitWell, maybe 60R
01:07.39foxlitOr 60R40... or some other combination, or ??
01:07.49pcjor...nothing?
01:07.54foxlitAnd I'm guessing 7/8 would share the black dragon icon
01:08.28foxlitOr nothing :)
01:09.06Sky2042_afkwiki dead imo?
01:09.11kd3pretty much
01:09.40pcj# I shot the wiki, but I did not shoot the IRC channel
01:11.30Sky2042_afklol
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01:12.49pcjlol you moved it foxlit :(
01:13.03foxlitI did :)
01:13.15foxlitAlso fixed a few obvious things
01:13.36pcjWell, looks like my work there is done
01:13.50foxlitHm, [[Template:Trade Icon Alchemy Small]]
01:13.52foxlitIs there a Large?
01:14.01Sandwichman2449http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Illidan_Stormrage&curid=14301&diff=1100711&oldid=1099290&rcid=1022591
01:14.53foxlitHm
01:14.56foxlitMove to uncyclopedia!
01:15.59pcj!wwstats
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01:16.24[NewsBot]pcj has updated the stats for #wowwiki! See the #wowwiki stats: http://www.bxd.dk/irc/freenode/wowwiki.html
01:16.57Sandwichman2449lol
01:18.15Sandwichman2449How would I be roasted if i stepped up and nominated myself as an admin?
01:19.36Bagginswwsandwich you are on my list ;)
01:19.52foxlitof things that comprise a balanced diet?
01:19.53Sandwichman2449For killing?
01:20.05Bagginswwon who should be added to admin staff
01:20.06AFKDuTempeteSWM, you make a lot of mistakes... but you apologise for them...
01:20.12AFKDuTempetereally, though, I don't know you :P
01:20.14Sandwichman2449Mistakes?
01:20.17DuTempeteoh, back, btw.
01:20.27Bagginswwyou and sky were on that list, as is Zeal.
01:20.43Sandwichman2449Seal has a nice sig.
01:20.48Sandwichman2449Z-e-a-l
01:20.59DuTempeteNearly every interaction I've had with you thus far has ended up with you apologising to me :P
01:21.33Sandwichman2449Just twice.
01:21.44DuTempeteout of mebbe 3 interactions?
01:21.44Sandwichman24493 tops.
01:21.47DuTempetehehe
01:22.12DuTempeteI would have to see your evidence as to why you would make a good admin in order to really have an idea :P
01:22.22Sandwichman2449Hmm...
01:22.36Sandwichman2449Evidence...
01:22.39BagginswwHe's active, he tries to fix problems, he's very helpful at pointing out problems
01:22.52Bagginswwas for mistakes we all make mistakes
01:22.54Bagginswwwe are not God
01:23.00Sandwichman2449A nood 'witch hunt' as zeal called it.
01:23.12Sandwichman2449What?
01:23.28Bagginswwdutempete said you make mistakes but you apologize fo rit
01:23.31DuTempeteYeah, I'm not saying that's enough to say no :P
01:23.33Sandwichman2449that was 'noob'
01:23.41BagginswwI was just pointing out we all make mistakes ;)
01:23.43DuTempetejust that it's my observation thus far :P
01:24.05BagginswwSandwich is old timer too, possibly older than me?
01:24.09DuTempeteI only find it humourous that it's been the majority of my experience with SWM :P
01:24.09Sandwichman2449Z-e-a-l without the -s caused a black blot on my screen.
01:24.20Sandwichman2449Perhaps.
01:25.02Sandwichman2449Humourous mistakes?
01:25.14DuTempetepretty much :)
01:25.19Sandwichman2449I try to help.
01:25.25DuTempetehehe
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01:27.17Sandwichman2449[[Image talk:MiniOrca.png]] Fandy calls.
01:27.17[NewsBot]Sandwichman2449 meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Image_talk:MiniOrca.png
01:27.51Sandwichman2449http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Fandyllic#From_Wired
01:28.08Sandwichman2449How about this? This is a nice comment about me.
01:29.38Miniluvcrimethink, surely
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01:33.53Sandwichman2449What did I miss? Big Brother was yelling at me.
01:34.54Sandwichman2449...?
01:35.10DuTempetenuffink
01:36.16Sandwichman2449What was crimethink?
01:36.40DuTempetefoxlit being weird?
01:36.52kd3that's the penalty for thoughtcrime, isn't it?
01:37.11kd3er, crimethink is the action of commiting thoughtcrime
01:37.29Sandwichman2449I know. What was my crime?
01:37.49Sandwichman2449I mean what was not my crime, comrade?
01:39.34Sandwichman2449Oh well.
01:39.54Sandwichman2449Is the roast over? It was selfish anyways.
01:40.45DuTempeteYeah, this is harsh.
01:41.22DuTempeteI feel like I should SD a few important articles, call people names on the VP, and then self-nom, just to take the pressure off pcj :P
01:41.31pcjlol
01:41.35pcj<3 DuTempete
01:42.29Bagginswwhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Image_talk:War.png
01:45.06DuTempetelol it's fanart...
01:45.22DuTempetedid he even look at the linked from section?
01:46.24Sandwichman2449So I make too many mistakes? Got it. That could be fixed.
01:48.58BagginswwI bet as soon as mounted combat is added to competitors of WoW we'll get it in game
01:49.35DuTempeteprobably
01:49.40BagginswwLOTRO online has plans for mounted combat as soon as Riders of Rohan expansion is made. But of course they need ro release the Mines of Moria first.
01:49.43foxlitIt's problematic from game mechanics PoV
01:50.02foxlitI can ride out of 41 yard range extremely fast :)
01:50.06Bagginswwits done perfectly on Zelda, but that's not a turn based combat engine.
01:50.21foxlitnot?
01:50.38BagginswwI.e. the game doesn't have timers like mmos
01:50.58Bagginswwthe turn based-ness is in WoW but its hidden behind the timers
01:51.06Bagginswwcooldowns
01:51.29foxlitI'd be very strongly against calling that turn-based
01:51.42foxlitYour opponent doesn't wait for you to take a turn. Ever.
01:51.44DuTempeteyeah, that really isn't turn based
01:51.45Bagginswwwell its closer to D&D dice rolling if anything
01:52.29Bagginswwits just hidden behind mechanics. Its not like you can cast the same spell every second
01:53.16Bagginswwalso targeting is much different.
01:54.02foxlitYou can move in real time
01:54.09foxlitEverything else follows :)
01:54.26Bagginswwbut it has more similarities to what they called active time turn based systems
01:54.36Bagginswwwhere as both you and your enemy are on seperate timers
01:54.45Bagginswwas long as your cooldowns run out you can both attack.
01:55.01Bagginswwall dependent on individual cooldowns, and what abilities you use
01:55.34Bagginswwnot like older original turn based, where there was no active time component
01:59.15Sandwichman2449Interesting...
02:00.01Bagginswwas said before in both systems its generally based on d&d mathematics but hidden under a slick interface
02:00.29BagginswwThe bioware games are especially known for that.
02:00.48Bagginswwlike the system used in Knights of the Old Republic
02:01.50Bagginswwall you have to do is attack, and the interface calculates how much damage you do, or if you miss.
02:04.45Bagginswwhttp://www.worldofwarcraft.com/community/machinima/letter.html hmm I've skimmed that and I don't see any restrictions as to what content you can't use in a machinima film
02:05.11Bagginswwit almost reads as open access to any content :p
02:05.21foxlitPG-13?
02:05.36foxlitThat's a big one, no World of Pomcraft!
02:06.20BagginswwI'm talking about content accessed in game
02:06.22Bagginswwor from the files
02:06.58foxlitIt's more or less "everything that you can rip out"
02:07.13foxlitBut it's not a grant of license to actually do the ripping
02:07.25foxlitToU may have a word to say there
02:07.32Bagginswwprobably
02:08.52BagginswwI don't know much about machinima production to know if they are forcing animations into the program that aren't naturally there, or if its some special effects added after the fact with other programs, just editing the videos cotent.
02:09.13Bagginsww*content
02:11.11DuTempetedepends on the video, bagginsww
02:11.48Pzyka lot of them rely on it
02:11.58DuTempetesome of them do what Blizz does for machinima, I'm sure... they take the model itself and manipulate it how they please using a 3D model viewer
02:12.28DuTempeteThe models themselves are capable of doing infinite actions more than they are programmed to do in game, I would think.
02:12.43DuTempeteBlizz has shown that using their own machinima
02:13.04Bagginswwya that's what I was thinking
02:13.15Bagginswwand to do that it would take opening the mpq files to get to the content
02:13.33DuTempeteBut most would do simple cut and paste animations, I imagine
02:15.10Pzyka lot of the movies with special effects pretty much require it
02:16.05Pzykthough regular old stuff can be done in game.
02:16.30foxlitThe UK Eurovision '07 video...
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02:53.11KirkburnSky2042_afk, Coreiel herself asked for its removed, long after leaving Blizz
02:58.23DuTempete<insert dog smiley> Kirkburn!
03:00.45DuTempeteCrap.  I can't remember which files contain my keybindings since they've changed up the organisation...
03:03.25Kirkburn<insert cuddle smiley> DuTempete!
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03:32.13KirkburnY'know, with the number of edits WoWWiki gets, how is it possible that every article isn't perfect? :P
03:36.10KirkburnI need a Starcraft line, similar to "Dedicated to Diablo?"
03:37.12Kirkburn"Starcraft float your spaceship?" is probably isn't good enough :P
03:40.30DuTempetewhat's the purpose of the line, Kirkburn?
03:40.40KirkburnFor WoWWiki Main Page
03:40.45KirkburnOne of the notifications
03:41.25KirkburnAtm I have a Diablo one running ... "Dedicated to Diablo? Why not check out the Diablo Wiki!"
03:44.59Sky2042_afklol
03:45.00KirkburnAny ideas?
03:45.10DuTempeteSerious about Starcraft?
03:45.15KirkburnOoh, nice
03:46.08KirkburnAdded :)
03:46.16DuTempete:)
03:46.17Kirkburn225 Facebook members now!
03:46.24DuTempetegeez wow
03:46.50Sky2042_afkyeah...
03:50.19KirkburnY'know, at some point the wiki needs a big recategorisation job
03:50.41KirkburnThere's no root category or proper cascade
03:51.09Sky2042Kirkburn: no proper cascade?...
03:51.37KirkburnYou should be able to travel up and down the tree easily, but ours is all crisscrossed and missing connections
03:51.39Sky2042well, we're working on that on the zone side =]
03:51.50Sky2042crisscrossed is not bad. missing is though.
03:52.17KirkburnCat:WoWWiki should have *everything* somewhere underneath
03:52.30KirkburnOr something along those lines
03:52.41Sky2042true
03:52.42KirkburnHmm, mebbe not
03:53.00KirkburnWoWWiki should be in the root category
03:53.18KirkburnThen the game-related stuff should be in another category in the root cat
03:53.47KirkburnHows about I give a proper example :P
03:54.03KirkburnThis is what I mean ... http://starter.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Browse
03:54.24KirkburnI approve of it cause I ... uh ... made it
03:54.55KirkburnOrganisation = WoWWiki for us
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03:55.06KirkburnDammit, tell me you didn't just miss all that Sky2042
03:57.12KirkburnUm, Sky2042_
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03:58.59Kirkburno7, Hob
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04:04.45KirkburnK, made a VP topic about the categories
04:13.48Sky2042_yeah, I just missed all that Kirkburn
04:13.50Sky2042_lol
04:14.00KirkburnWhat was the last bit you got?
04:14.10KirkburnActually, nvm, it's on the VP
04:14.38Sky2042_mk
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04:21.03pcjfgawd kirkburn no one is flaming me on WW:RFA anymore you have to make a Main Page announcement
04:21.34Kirkburnlol
04:22.55Sky2042_zeal went to sleep
04:22.56Sky2042_;P
04:32.43KirkburnThis is hilarious - http://www.istartedsomething.com/20080103/zune-v1-egg-ad/
04:34.43Fisker-Microsoft is mean :(
04:34.52Fisker-They won't even make x86-64 builds of SP3
04:37.46FlAWDbastards.
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04:45.57Clemmingthey
04:45.59Sky2042_pcj: you tagged one of your user pages as an sd; you need the redirect either?
04:46.10pcjhmm, which one?
04:46.14Sky2042_<PROTECTED>
04:46.27pcjOh, yeah shouldn't need redirect
04:46.32Sky2042_cool
04:47.18Clemmingtwhats up
04:47.28Sky2042Clemmingt: not much.
04:50.17Fisker-<PROTECTED>
04:50.23Fisker-and 2 warriors used it against each other
04:52.09Hobinheim_!!
04:52.29Sky2042lol Hobinheim_.
04:52.49Hobinheim_off the bat i can't think of any categories to include at the top level
04:52.57Hobinheim_personally i'd want to sit through them and sort them all out
04:53.00Hobinheim_and see what rises to the top
04:53.09Hobinheim_obviously on my lengthy todo list... :)
04:53.21Hobinheim_but i concur. i partly blame the wiki engine...
04:53.34Sky2042what we need is more people working on the variety of project :/
04:53.37Hobinheim_categories should be visualized in a better way, and i think they will, in the future
04:53.38Sky2042projects*
04:53.56Sky2042too many viewers, not enough editors ftl.
04:54.08Hobinheim_such is the problem with many a project
04:54.10Hobinheim_and off to bed sadly
04:54.12Hobinheim_work beckons
04:54.22Hobinheim_they give me gold for typing! work work...
04:54.38Sky2042lol
04:55.22Sky2042I should show Mikaka AWB
04:55.29Sky2042He'd love it.
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04:56.46Sky2042DREAMS OF DRAGON'S FIRE
05:06.46pcjthat'll never be a fortune 500 company
05:07.05Fisker-well it's not supposed to
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05:10.33KirkburnBtw, Hobinheim_ , Sky2042, on the Starter wiki link, you'll notice CategoryTree in action
05:11.31Hobinheim_hobinhem went to sleep already
05:11.36KirkburnSure he did
05:11.52KirkburnGoodnight Mr Sleep
05:14.52KirkburnI'm off now too
05:14.55KirkburnG'night all!
05:18.14Sky2042yeah, I know what categorytree is... wp uses it :/
05:24.36DuTempetenight night peeps!
05:26.12pcjnight dutempete :)
05:34.23Sky2042what if I don't know what A is?... :[
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05:42.17DasRevhi
05:43.37Sky2042hi.
05:43.39DasRevI'm working on running a private server and I want to have an admin/GM addon that allows lookup of the ID numbers and also allows me to click buttons and automatically run the necessary command
05:43.51DasRevI don't program and this would be my first addon
05:44.27DasRevany suggestions on where to start?
05:45.09DasRevanyone?
05:45.37DasRevbueller?
05:46.32DasRevoh. woops.
05:46.38DasReveveryone type /clear and lets try this again
05:46.41DasRevhi
05:46.51DasRevI wanna make an addon that lets me see the item/skill/spell id
05:47.01DasRevI don't program and this would be my first addon
05:47.04DasRevwhere do I start?
05:47.52pcjwe don't discuss private servers in here
05:47.58pcjrefer to topic
05:48.01DasRevyeah I just noticed that
05:48.17DasRevbut that's not what I want to talk about. I wanna talk about how to make my own addon
05:48.29DasRevI've never done it and have no idea where to start
05:48.34pcjsorry
05:48.46DasRevfor what?
05:48.55pcjcan't help you
05:49.06DasRevoh
05:49.08DasRevthat sux.
05:49.24DasRevhow can there be this many people in a channel and no one talking?
05:49.36DasRevstatistically there should be at least one person in here that can help me
05:49.51pcjno, because programming addons isn't what this channel is about
05:50.17DasRevthe wiki told me to come here
05:50.25DasRevif it's on the internet it must be true
05:50.48DasRevalrighty. I'll try google again
05:50.52DasRevthanks though
05:51.14pcjgg sky
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07:00.47Sky2042pcj: yeah. gf was having a meltdown. would've kicked him... :/
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07:10.57HojimachongKirkburn, way to be sleeping
07:11.12Sky2042lol
07:11.13Fisker-:D?
07:11.16Fisker-NO ME Sky2042
07:11.18Sky2042he does that with |afk also
07:11.24Sky2042it's so weird.
07:11.34Hojimachongok, so I have a question, and I'm dumb. So.... I want a smart person to answer me
07:12.03Sky2042oooook...
07:12.06pcjwrong channel
07:12.07Sky2042shoot.
07:12.10Sky2042lol
07:12.16Hojimachongit's about WoWWiki
07:12.37HojimachongI want to know where to propose a change in categories
07:12.49Hojimachonglike, I want to re-do a certain category
07:12.54Hojimachongit's category:mobs
07:13.14HojimachongI want to put them into their zones, as in "Darkshore mobs" or "Terokkar Forest mobs"
07:13.17Hojimachongwhere would I propose this?
07:15.02Sky2042Hojimachong: we're actually working on that.
07:15.09Sky2042[[WoWWiki:Zone category project]]
07:15.10[NewsBot]Sky2042 meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Zone_category_project
07:15.10HojimachongI'd love to help
07:15.14Sky2042=]
07:15.17Hojimachongsweet!
07:15.36HojimachongI'll sign up
07:15.57Sky2042cool
07:15.58Hojimachongthanks for the help :D
07:16.07Sky2042np
07:16.11Sky2042good to have another =)
07:17.47Sky2042should be done
07:18.00Sky2042still a little off
07:18.03Sky2042let me tidy
07:19.47Sky2042that's about as much as I can do, I think.
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07:23.00Sky2042Hojimachong: that particular project also deals with a few other things, but the premise is already there ;)
07:23.07Hojimachongokay
07:23.09Hojimachongsounds good
07:23.25HojimachongI'll just do what needs doing - I love the goal of WoWWiki, and have been lurking for a while
07:23.56Sky2042lurking is good.
07:24.49Hojimachongwhat about mobs that are only found in instances? Is the "mob" category sufficient for them?
07:25.32Sky2042covered in the project, I think. Have a look at one of the "done" instances.
07:25.43Hojimachongok
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07:38.48Sky2042Hojimachong: there's a difference between an NPC and a mob
07:38.52Hojimachongyes
07:38.58HojimachongI'm trying to keep it checked
07:38.58Sky2042http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Chieftain_Bloodmaw&curid=28634&diff=1101223&oldid=1047205&rcid=1023112 ?
07:39.01Sky2042;P
07:39.18Hojimachong*sigh*
07:39.31Sky2042dealt with
07:39.36Hojimachongthanks
07:40.16Hojimachongother than that, are the recats following proper syntax?
07:40.34Sky2042proper syntax?
07:40.45Hojimachongam I doing it the right way
07:40.50Sky2042essentially.
07:41.06Hojimachonggood
07:41.48Sky2042Have fun
07:41.51Sky2042=)
07:55.06Sky2042pcj: you on?
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08:05.11HojimachongI really loathe the fact that AutoWikiBrowser doesn't work with WoWWiki
08:05.20Sky2042it does.
08:05.23Sky2042barely.
08:05.38Sky2042you can load a list from text, or from contribs
08:05.51Sky2042i'm using it right now; turn on bots
08:06.12Hojimachongreally?
08:06.14Hojimachongwow
08:06.23HojimachongI'm going to try it - I can see this being a lot easier
08:06.27Sky2042yeah
08:06.49Sky2042but only contribs / text, which is really weird :/
08:07.22Sky2042you do have to be using the monobook skin though
08:07.26HojimachongI am
08:07.27Sky2042um, what else...
08:07.54HojimachongAs long as it'll let me upload the list of pages in a category...
08:08.22Sky2042what I did was copy paste the category list into a text editor, than got rid of the extra spaces and *s through find and replace in the text editor. copy-paste to notepad, then load from text
08:08.35Sky2042then, have at it =)
08:08.53Hojimachonggood idea
08:09.03Sky2042it won't pull from a category, for whatever reason
08:09.09Sky2042or any of the other special pages
08:09.12Sky2042but contribs works :/
08:10.17Hojimachongbah, I'm tired, I'll play with it tomorrow
08:10.26Sky2042hehe
08:15.54HojimachongI'm off to bed after finishing a few more moonglade
08:15.58HojimachongSky, thank you for your help
08:16.14Sky2042np.
08:16.23Sky2042i'm also off to bed
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08:17.40Hojimachongg'night
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08:20.21Hack`dG'day to all. :)
08:20.31Sky2042g'day. and good night
08:20.37Hack`d;P
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08:38.05Bagginswwwhere's sandwich when I need him
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09:07.56Bagginswwhmm
09:08.01Bagginswwso is the [[ley walker]]
09:08.04Bagginsww[[ley walker]]
09:08.05[NewsBot]Bagginsww meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/ley_walker
09:08.22Bagginswwa warcraft conversion of the D&D horizon walker prestige class?
09:08.40BagginswwHorizon Walker: The horizon walker is an unceasing traveler to the universe's most dangerous places. As her journeys take her from place to place, she adapts to become one with her environment. In time, she develops a mystic connection with the ground beneath her. But she is by no means tied to a particular place; her restless feet are ever leading her toward the horizon, where new adventures await.
09:09.19BagginswwMountain king may be a variation of the dwarven defender.
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10:13.14Kalrothhi Kirky!
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12:22.55[NewsBot]GamePolitics: Benazir Bhutto Memorial Created in Second Life - http://gamepolitics.com/2008/01/03/benazir-bhutto-memorial-created-in-second-life/
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13:31.09winkillerLOL
13:31.28winkiller"Benazir Bhutto memorial created in<line break>"
13:31.37winkillerI really wondered how you would do that in wow :P
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14:32.24Fisker-omgawds Bibi :(
14:40.38pcjwoot [Recipe: Delicious Chocolate Cake]
14:42.57OlisonDelicious!
14:50.57zealslow wiki is slow : /
14:56.16pcj!jobqueue
14:56.20[NewsBot]The www.wowwiki.com job queue length is currently 7003 doing ~1 job/s, done in approx. 1hr 56mins 43secs.
15:04.31[NewsBot]WoW Insider: Around Azeroth: Run away! - http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/01/03/around-azeroth-run-away/
15:04.55pcjgood morning DuTempete :)
15:05.03DuTempetemorning person who never sleeps.
15:06.07Zeallol. hey DuTempete
15:06.12DuTempetehey zeal
15:07.01Zeal<Sandwichman2449> Z-e-a-l without the -s caused a black blot on my screen. <-- made me laugh
15:07.19DuTempetelol that was last night...
15:07.20pcjk
15:07.30Zealyuup, just finished reading over what i missed.
15:07.36DuTempeteheh
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15:28.47Zealhm.. http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Everlong.jpg should i suspect that's not being released under GNU license.
15:28.52Zeal*-should
15:35.14Pzykat least the guy put a source to who did it
15:36.31[NewsBot]WoW Insider: Totem Talk: Personally - http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/01/03/totem-talk-personally/
15:56.19foxlitslowwiki!
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16:03.52Zealindeed
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16:05.24Zealbut anyways, my sig is now 2px shorter and 4px thinner. so cheer those who hated it.
16:05.24winkillercomments on these signatures? http://f5n.de/eu_Tharabas.png
16:06.02Zealdepends where they're used winkiller :s
16:06.18winkillerguild forum, whatever
16:06.20winkillernot on the wiki
16:06.39winkillerclass colored
16:06.44winkillerhttp://f5n.de/eu_Banathor.png http://f5n.de/eu_Lysithea.png
16:06.46Zealseems mroe suited for a avatar, but small and simple, so cool.
16:06.46foxlitBut is it any less atrocious, Zeal? :)
16:06.54Zealnever!
16:07.19winkillerwow, is it me or someone deleted {if]
16:07.29winkillerUser:Zeal looks... interesting :P
16:07.36Zealwtf..
16:07.37foxlitQuite possibly :P
16:07.42Zealrofl @ vp
16:07.48Zealno wonder wiki is slow
16:08.02Zealsomeone break {{t}} ?
16:08.18Zealwait, can't just be that.
16:08.41foxlitAwesome!
16:08.51foxlitIt's all parser functions
16:08.57winkilleryay, nice sig Zeal
16:09.06winkillerimages allowed again?
16:09.13foxlityour sig broke the wiki parser?
16:09.25winkillerthe sig isn't on his userpage
16:10.04Zealindeed, and i didn;t evne change my sig, just changed the images on my server.
16:10.16pcjI blame adys
16:10.29winkillerdidn't see the old one, I just know your VERY old one . without images
16:10.53Zealhehe, older one was exactly the same, just more spacing around things.
16:11.23winkillerUnable to forward this request at this time.
16:11.25Pzykwowwiki just blew up
16:11.25ZealERROR
16:11.25ZealThe requested URL could not be retrieved
16:11.26pcjsquid died
16:11.27Pzyklul
16:11.29Zealhaha
16:11.35pcjcalamari anyone?
16:11.40winkilleryummy
16:11.44Pzyksquid?
16:11.50pcjSQUID
16:11.56Zealcalamari is yum
16:12.11pcjhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squid_cache
16:12.37foxlitThe squid is dead, long live the squid?
16:13.27Pzykmmmm
16:13.32Pzykdeep fried things
16:13.43foxlitHey, who plugged in the second hamster-driven server while I wasn't looking?
16:13.59foxlitSince it actually has decent latency now :/
16:14.59pcjit probably finally came to terms with zeal's signature
16:15.08Pzykgeez
16:15.17Pzyktemplates are all broken
16:15.24foxlitPzyk: link
16:15.32Pzykhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Jandice_Barov
16:15.47foxlitLooks fine to me
16:15.57Zealall fine to me too
16:16.01Pzykhuh
16:16.02Pzykweird
16:16.20Pzykblack magic I say
16:16.31Zealsomeones messed with the voodoo mon
16:27.28Pzykhmm...
16:27.31Pzykcomments?
16:27.38Pzykhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Instructor_Malicia.jpg http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Lady_Illucia_Barov.jpg
16:28.21Zealwhy marked for deletion?
16:29.05Zeali think they're fine tbh
16:29.29Zealbut if it's the artist i think it is, i'm not suprised someones marking it as questionable.
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16:29.35Pzykhahah
16:29.40Pzykyeah, it's that guy
16:30.10Pzykthere's also http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Jandice_Barov.jpg which I commented on
16:30.54Zealdidn't know he had done these tbh.
16:31.05Pzyksame
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16:39.39pcjwb DuTempete :)
16:39.46DuTempetethanks pcj ;)
16:40.00Zealhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Blaumeux.jpg <-- that'll probably get marked too i suspect.
16:40.40KalrothDuTempete: What was your new years resolution(s)?!
16:41.04DuTempeteto hug Kirkburn :)
16:41.14KirkburnGood resolution
16:41.20KirkburnMine was 1600x1200
16:41.22KalrothYou didn't pick anything hard though?!
16:41.42KalrothKirkburn: Pfft, that's so 2005
16:41.53Zeallol Kirkburn
16:41.54KalrothKirkburn: I picked 1920x1200 last year!
16:42.07KirkburnI've only got 1280x1024 :(
16:42.10KalrothOh
16:42.17KalrothKirkburn: So mine is bigger than yours?
16:42.28[NewsBot]World of Raids: Details on Wrath of the Lich King's PvP Warfare - http://boards.worldofraids.com/topic-9961-1.html
16:42.33KalrothOr is yours just more detailed?
16:42.42KalrothWait, that'd be mine.
16:42.59KalrothAnyways, I made a resolution!
16:43.05KalrothI'm going to continue smoking!
16:43.11Kirkburno_O
16:43.12DuTempetelol
16:43.29DuTempeteI'm 24 days cigarette free :P
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16:43.36pcjhooray
16:43.41KalrothYou go, girl
16:44.06KalrothSo you got a huge stash of lollipops now?
16:44.13DuTempeteno
16:44.16DuTempeteI have Kirkburn :)
16:44.25Kirkburn:P
16:44.32DuTempete(btw, haha I win, Kalroth!  Neener!)
16:44.40KalrothD'oh
16:44.46KalrothYou can't lick hi .. nevermind.
16:45.00DuTempetein 4 days I can lick anything I please :P
16:45.13KalrothYou're legal then?!
16:45.18Lukianlol
16:45.22DuTempetelol
16:45.38Zeallol
16:46.00DuTempetehehe I need to stop, I'm making Kirkburn blush :P
16:46.19Zealoo, he's doen a Kael one btw Pzyk, never seen that one.
16:46.23Lukianhehe, no keep going :D
16:46.25KalrothWeird, he never blushed around me!
16:46.36Pzyk?
16:46.38Pzykthat artist?
16:46.39Lukianlol Kal
16:46.42DuTempetebecause you were only a joke to him :P
16:47.14KalrothGoddamn cheating chavs!
16:47.19Zealaye
16:47.39DuTempeteI don't think he owns a jumpsuit...
16:49.52DuTempeteYay!  Kirkburn yumminess on fullscreen!
16:50.46pcjI don't really want to know, do I
16:52.05foxlithm, http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/us/3773307478.htm
16:52.25foxlitthey're almost out of long unsigned int :)
16:52.32pcjk
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17:19.36alieskyHappy New Year for everybody!!!
17:21.42pcjooold
17:22.42alieskyhello pcj, how are you?
17:22.48pcjgood,t y
17:22.49pcjty*
17:23.03pcjno one's flaming me anymore
17:24.07aliesky?
17:24.23pcj[[WW:RFA#Pcj]]
17:24.23[NewsBot]pcj meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/WW:RFA#Pcj
17:26.17foxlit[[Maul]]
17:26.18[NewsBot]foxlit meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Maul
17:26.30foxlitCeiling cat does not approve.
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17:37.06foxlitIs there a bc-inline style icon for wow?
17:38.59pcj{{Wow-inline}}
17:38.59[NewsBot]pcj meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Wow-inline
17:39.19pcjBet you feel silly for asking that now, huh
17:39.31foxlitYou're too late, I already looked that up :)
17:39.43pcjgg
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18:03.37pcjwb foxlit
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18:18.46PandarHey all
18:19.57Lukianoo another australian
18:20.13Pandarindeed ><
18:20.59Lukianwhat are you doing awake at 3:20ish? (assuming I'm not failing timezones)
18:21.20Pandar4:51am ><
18:21.28Pandarmeh, can't sleep
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18:21.44Lukianadelaide is only 30mins behind melbourne? :o
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18:22.04Pandarin Melbourne, ey?
18:22.08Lukianyeah
18:22.14Pandarawesome
18:22.23Lukianwe've been having hotter weather than you guys too ><
18:22.39Lukianit's a nice cool change atm, thankfully
18:23.10PandarHm..yeh, I was expecting some heat at night..
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18:25.00Lukianthis channel is rather quiet atm, I'm gonna see if I can sleep :D -- #wowhead is kicking, well at least the frenchies :D
18:25.18Kirkburn:O
18:25.32Lukianlife!
18:25.36Pandarlol, my first time here..
18:26.02KirkburnHey, we're quiet people, and we restrict ourselves to intelligent conversations :P
18:26.14Pandarright...
18:27.23KirkburnY'know, I've never seen Noblegarden
18:27.26pcjIntelligent conversations and anything zeal wants to talk about
18:27.31KirkburnThree years of playing, and yet to see it ...
18:27.43Zealheh
18:29.13LukianI've lost an area in the game I remember
18:29.33LukianI think it was in kalimdor, it had felhouds and mushrooms in, I think
18:29.35KirkburnHello, I am Bob. You must be Alice. You haven't changed a bit!    (cookie for whoever gets this)
18:29.48KirkburnLukian, I know the one
18:29.52KirkburnSouthern Desolace
18:30.34Lukianhmm I've beenn there though
18:30.42Lukianit was kinda.. walled in
18:30.47Lukianwith mountains
18:30.56Kirkburn[[Shadowbreak Ravine]]
18:30.57[NewsBot]Kirkburn meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Shadowbreak_Ravine
18:31.17Lukianyeah that must be it
18:31.19KirkburnPicture is a featured media for the 19th :P
18:31.22LukianI shall have to revist it :D
18:32.04KirkburnHello, I'm Doctor Frankenstein - and I've got a monster!
18:32.09Lukianwhat is the purpose of that area (quests/)
18:32.27KirkburnNo idea
18:32.34Lukianoh *reads article*
18:32.35KirkburnDidn't go there as Alliance
18:32.54Lukian:( short stay by Pandar
18:34.52LukianSo I'm wondering how I ended up in that area
18:35.00LukianA warlock friend took me there
18:35.17LukianIt should have been quest related
18:39.37Lukianhttp://www.wowhead.com/?npc=4685
18:39.40Lukianahah!
18:39.47LukianIt is quest related
18:42.42KirkburnThis is awesome - http://www.youtube.com/swf/l.swf?video_id=3hTxGmvUo_0
18:45.19Lukianhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Shadowbreak_Ravine
18:45.38Lukianfix any writing / grammar that I failed at 6am :D
18:45.41Lukiangood night!
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18:50.52pcjsup gryphen
18:51.34Gryphenhowdy
18:51.42DuTempetehi Gryphen :)
18:51.57Lukianlol at you joining the channel with it's name in all caps :)
18:52.01Lukianhi hi ^_^
18:52.30Grypheni join em all in caps :)
18:52.39Lukianhaha
18:52.44Lukian:D
18:53.17LukianI made wiki correction! I feel I've accomplished something today, so hopefully I can sleep well XD
18:54.10DuTempeteoooh
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19:03.10Gourraanyone here right now? because I have a request to make
19:03.29foxlitabsolutely no one, no one at all :)
19:03.41Gourradamn. I'll come back later then
19:03.41foxlitbut do it anyway
19:03.48pcj~data
19:03.49infobotDon't Ask To Ask. Just ASK
19:04.09Gourraah okay
19:04.10PanSolacan I ask about whether it is ok to ask a question?
19:04.27PanSola(asking to ask about asking)
19:04.35foxlitI'm not sure
19:04.37Gourraanyway.. I made a discussion about merging templates at http://www.wowwiki.com/Template_talk:Clothitems
19:04.44foxlitBut you can't possibly ask to ask to ask to ask about something
19:04.46GourraI would like to know what you think about it
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19:05.11foxlitHate it on principle, since it's a right-side navbox on item articles
19:05.43foxlitSomething like http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Professions would be better :)
19:06.16Bagginswwso anyone on that knows D&D?
19:06.33foxlitDoes that D&D song count?
19:06.37Bagginswwlol
19:06.46GourraI was thinking of it as a replacement for the two articles that was in it, didn't you see it?
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19:07.13Gourratemplates Clothitems and Clothbolts
19:07.35Gourramy firefox is bugging at the moment, so I can't link them
19:07.36Bagginswwwell the reason I ask is I have a feeling that a few classes in the Warcraft RPG might be adaptations of standard D&D classes
19:07.42Zealkill all nav boxes.
19:07.55Bagginswwdwarven defender miay have been adapted into avatar/mountain king
19:08.18Bagginswwwe know monk was adapted into runemaster
19:08.23foxlitGurra: yes, regardless
19:08.39foxlitIt's a bit too wide when merged that way
19:08.48Gourraalright.
19:08.54BagginswwI think ley walker may be an adaption of horizon walker
19:09.06Bagginswwdeath knoght an adaptation of blackguard?
19:09.55GourraI also found some images that might not be suitable on wowwiki, and marked them for deletion: Jandice Barov.jpg, Instructor Malicia.jpg, Lady Illucia Barov.jpg
19:10.22pcjNo, they're suitable
19:10.57Gourrareason ?
19:10.59Bagginswwcrusader obviously became "scarlet crusader"
19:11.12pcj...why are they unsuitable
19:11.46Gourrabecause they are images of light clothed women
19:11.51pcj...and?
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19:11.53GourraBesides, no articles link to them
19:12.14pcjhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Lady_Illucia_Barov
19:12.16pcjYes they do
19:12.35Sky2042welcome to irc gourra!
19:13.06GourraThey aren't the last time I was them
19:13.27GourraI'll retract my delete vote
19:13.40winkillerhey Baldi :P
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19:14.21Gourrahmm who are you?
19:14.59foxlitHm, wtb [Foxbot Ident code]
19:15.03foxlitpst :)
19:15.20pcjWhat do you mean ident
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19:15.55foxlitWant to require some form of wiki authentication when requesting article edits through IRC
19:16.32pcjeww
19:16.35pcjHow?
19:16.53foxlitThat's a good question
19:17.07pcjMy guess is have foxbot generate a unique identifier and have the user put it on their page
19:17.10winkillercould be easily done by giving wiki-editors voice
19:17.36winkillerGourra: Tharabas
19:17.40foxlitwinkiller: that doesn't link them to an account, requires op intervention and conflicts with the current use of +v
19:17.53winkilleryeah
19:17.57foxlitpcj: revocation is hell
19:18.14pcjKeep a list of the identifiers and if there's a problem remove it from the list
19:18.20winkillerpcj: how
19:18.25winkiller'd you prevent abuse
19:18.31Gourraoh. hey thara
19:18.32winkillerif someone just copies my or your code
19:18.45pcjWell, put it in a protected page, like a JS page
19:18.53DuTempeteGourra, how are those "light clothed women" ?
19:19.15Zealjust do it manually, people only being able to request once you've added them to a list.
19:19.28Gourrashowing lots of bare skin, but nevermind, the matter is closed
19:19.46foxlitDuTempete: I think you're missing the important question, namely _where_.
19:19.54DuTempetehehe
19:20.05foxlitZeal: requires my intervention, then, and I'm a lazy bastard.
19:20.34DuTempeteAfaik WoWWiki doesn't have any rules about scantily clad women that WoW doesn't have.
19:20.52DuTempeteAnd I would only consider Ilucia Barov scantily clad by Muslim standards :P
19:21.01Zeallol
19:21.19winkillerare those barovs blizz work?
19:21.21winkillernever tseen that
19:21.44DuTempete[[Image:Jandice Barov.jpg]]
19:21.45[NewsBot]DuTempete meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Jandice_Barov.jpg
19:21.55DuTempete[[Image:Instructor Malicia.jpg]]
19:21.55[NewsBot]DuTempete meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Instructor_Malicia.jpg
19:22.12winkillerare they really that naked ingame?
19:22.17pcjNo
19:22.18Zealand then there's the naked azshara, harpies, bottomless dryads.
19:22.27Gourrachrist get over it already
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19:22.41Zealno winkiller, fan interpretation.
19:22.48DuTempeteodd... Jandice Barov.jpg looks like fanart...
19:23.15Gourrasomeone mind categorize it at fanart then?
19:23.58Bagginswwwe need a rule for uploaded art like we do for guild pages
19:24.03Gourraas*
19:24.08Bagginswwif it isn't sourced within 30 days it gets deleted
19:24.19Bagginswwas an incentive for people to use the citation templates
19:25.11GourraI can think of a few then that are in the Big Images category
19:25.35Bagginswwand ya I'm pretty sure the jandice barov was fan art you can find on Blizzard's fanart gallery
19:26.13Zealhm, be surprised if it is.
19:26.28BagginswwI know I've seen it somewhere
19:26.34GourraI'll look it up for you
19:26.39Bagginswwand I don't go very far to find fanart :p
19:26.49BagginswwI don't usually look at it normally LOL
19:26.57Zealwell i could provide multiple links, but they're all NSFW.
19:27.03Bagginswwnsfw?
19:27.04Gourranot on http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/wallpapers/fan-wallpapers/
19:27.11Zealnot safe for work :p
19:27.17Bagginswwlawl
19:27.25BagginswwI can only imagine what that means
19:27.38Bagginswwpr0ncraft :p
19:27.59winkiller4chan probably
19:28.16Gourranope not on http://www.wow-europe.com/en/downloads/fan-wallpapers.html either
19:28.26DuTempeteYeah, blizzard's artists don't usually draw their characters that scantily
19:28.34DuTempeteand it doesn't look like the Blizzard style, either.
19:28.38Bagginswwhmmm maybe I just came across it while browsing wowwiki :p
19:29.01DuTempetesorry I'm a bit delayed... I'm listening to Kirkburns delightful sciency one-liners.
19:29.01Bagginswwwell those characters are already scantily clad in game
19:29.11Gourrait's made by this guy: http://azazel1944.deviantart.com/
19:29.14Bagginswwreally what should be said is that blizzard doesn't usually draw minor characters
19:29.20cladhairestop pinging me :P
19:29.33DuTempetethat too baggins
19:29.37Zealwell the ones on ww are pretty much the only clean ones.
19:29.44Bagginswwbut they do have scantily clad art in the rpg :)
19:29.46Gourrathat's true
19:30.00pcjwth foxlit http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Illustrated_tooltip
19:30.01Bagginswwand night elves are almost always drawn scantily clad
19:30.07cladhaireGAH STOP IT
19:30.08Bagginswwin official art
19:30.23foxlitwho knows?
19:30.38Bagginswwso ya we need a namespace for things like
19:30.43Bagginsww[[tales from the past]]
19:30.43Zeallol @ clad
19:30.43foxlitDoes clad's machine make a sound every time someone says
19:30.43[NewsBot]Bagginsww meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/tales_from_the_past
19:30.45foxlitclad?
19:30.51cladhairelol
19:30.56cladhaireyes it does
19:30.57cladhairebastages
19:30.59Bagginsww[[Tales of the Past]]
19:30.59[NewsBot]Bagginsww meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Tales_of_the_Past
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19:31.25foxlitPoor clad :(
19:31.36DuTempetehehe clad... what are you having ping you?
19:31.48Zealwell the fanfic namespace had it's discussion, dunno where it's going from there.
19:31.50Bagginswwfanfic really shouldn't be on standalone page, unless it points it out from the getgo
19:32.11BagginswwWW:Fanfic or something like that
19:32.42Zealhuh?
19:32.54Zealthe page says it's a fanfic.
19:33.04BagginswwI mean it should be shown in the page name
19:33.18Gourrasoo can someone delete the talk pages on those articles?
19:33.32Bagginswwwe generally put fanfic on user pages
19:33.42Bagginswwbut this one seems to have multiple writers
19:33.48foxlitGourra: just let it get voted down, it's not that much of an issue
19:33.53Gourraalright
19:33.57Zealwell it's not a ww user's fanfic afaik, it's about a machinema.
19:34.07BagginswwYa
19:34.17Bagginswwand spinoff fiction of some sort
19:34.28BagginswwI only glanced over it briefly
19:34.38BagginswwI'm just saying we need some kind of namespace for stuff like this
19:34.50Bagginswwthat points out that its not an article about official content from the get go
19:35.31Zealhttp://azazel1944.deviantart.com/art/nightelf-hunter-63891409 <-- i never did find out, is that the fanart blizz retracted a while back? :S
19:37.22Gourrawithdrew delete votes
19:37.58Bagginswwoh you can make blizzard withdraw fanart?
19:38.18Gourrawho me?
19:38.43Bagginswwno I mean people can vote to have art removed :p
19:38.48BagginswwI didn't know that
19:38.48Gourraah
19:39.02pcjhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Great_Sea_expansion_ideas needs more amboxes
19:40.26Zealnah, they did it themselves. all i know is they withdrew fanart of a scantily clad nelf huntress for unknown reasons.
19:40.59DuTempeteKirkburn, share your one-liners with them :)
19:41.24Kirkburnlol
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19:41.58KirkburnMaybe later :P
19:42.00DuTempeteawww
19:42.13DuTempeteThese guys need to know what turns on women like me :P
19:42.21DuTempeteGod knows they need a date...
19:42.25pcjlol
19:42.41KirkburnYou are definitely the woman of my REM phase
19:43.27Zeal"these guys" ?
19:43.44pcjthat was pretty lame
19:43.47DuTempeteYes, I was talking about you, too, zeal.
19:44.03DuTempeteI'm sorry, but if a guy walked up to me and said that, I would be seriously impressed :P
19:44.12Zealwell i was more wondering if you meant blizz or the artist i linked, but ok :P
19:44.29KirkburnHello, I've just taken part in the clinical trial of a new drug to help memory loss; could you tell me, do I come here often?
19:44.30Pzykit's just so... bad
19:44.47DuTempetehehe
19:44.54DuTempetethe Ohm one is my favourite :P
19:45.30DuTempeteor the ion one...
19:45.42DuTempeteunfortunately, that's not one understood verbally :P
19:45.48KirkburnI've got no problem with mildly NSFW stuff on WoWWiki (or even NSFW stuff, so long as it's not thrust in people's general browsing). I don't subscribe to prudish lines of thought :)
19:46.04KirkburnI've got my ion you
19:46.35KirkburnWhat's a nice girl like you doing in a superposition like this?
19:47.03KirkburnI need a seed for my pseudo-random number generator - can I have your phone number?
19:47.12pcjlol
19:47.14DuTempetelol
19:47.23pcjthat was barely acceptable
19:47.42DuTempetehehe
19:47.46KirkburnHello, I'm Doctor Frankenstein - and I've got a monster!
19:47.53pcj*sigh*
19:47.55DuTempetehehe
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19:48.57DuTempeteoh, and PanSola, what do you think about asking questions about questions other people would like to ask questions about?
19:49.05DuTempeteand foxlit
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19:49.28DuTempeteKEOLAH!
19:49.52Keolahhi
19:49.53pcjhi keolah :)
19:49.59Gourracan someone tell me what "parserFunctions" is? I'm having troubles with the herbalism icon at http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Gourra/APB_Table, and DarkRyder speaks of "parserFunctions"
19:50.01DuTempeteare you sciency Keolah?
19:50.16Keolahum... not really no?
19:50.33DuTempeteboo.
19:50.48DuTempeteGourra, I would ask that question in #wowi-lounge
19:50.54pcjhttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/ParserFunctions gourra
19:51.00pcjno dutempete it's a wowwiki question
19:51.08DuTempeteoh?
19:51.10DuTempetekks
19:51.25pcjGourra, don't see anything wrong with that icon
19:51.48Gourrawell it's strange, I've tried with both IE and FF and I still don't see the icon
19:52.12pcjhttp://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=User:Gourra/APB_Table&action=purge
19:52.13pcjtry that
19:52.44[NewsBot]WoW Insider: Ron Paul's World of Warcraft rally - http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/01/03/ron-pauls-world-of-warcraft-rally/
19:53.20Gourranope, still doesn't work
19:53.56Zealfine for me.
19:54.02Gourrait's the same with http://www.wowwiki.com/Refreshing_Spring_Water, can't see the icon :s
19:54.24pcjpurge your cache
19:54.27DuTempeteo.m.g.
19:54.31pcjwhart
19:54.33Gourrawill do
19:54.33pcjwhat*
19:55.37winkilleralso got no icon
19:55.41DuTempeteWowinsider link above, pcj.
19:55.48pcjooold
19:56.22Zealfine for me, and reverted the water icon, cos the fix you tried to do removed the transparency : /
19:56.36GourraI really don't get it, I cleared cache and cookies and still doesn't work
19:56.41Gourraoh. sorry Zeal
19:57.13winkillerwhoever Ron Paul is...
19:57.19winkillerRon Jeremy is more popular
19:57.25Zealno need to apologise.
19:57.35Zealanyways, i'm off to food. bbl
20:00.01BagginswwImage:IconSmall Ogre Female.gif
20:00.04BagginswwI love it heh
20:00.08Bagginsww[[Image:IconSmall Ogre Female.gif]]
20:00.08[NewsBot]Bagginsww meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:IconSmall_Ogre_Female.gif
20:00.12pcjk
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20:50.17KeolahI had this dream last night where I saw a truesilver vein, but this human warrior got to it before me, so I killed him (despite being a dwarf paladin, somehow ;p)
20:51.14zealisn't that the second time you've had that dream? O_o
20:51.29KeolahNo. Before I was dreaming I was surrounded by thorium veins but my skill wsa too low to mine them.
20:51.39Zealah, that one. lol
20:52.10KeolahMan, yesterday was insane.. me and my bf were questing in Searing Gorge, and I got no less than _five_ truesilver veins, and most of them gave four pieces of ore...
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21:02.52priffanyone here? :P
21:04.59Zealmoo
21:05.00pcjno
21:06.25priffi went to check out the lvl 70 epic druid pvp set today... and found out that everywhere it links to a lvl 70 blue set... which as far as i can see doesnt exist... i decided to try to edit it... but got really confused :P
21:06.55priffand then i found the handy "go to our irc!" thingy :P
21:08.44priffits very confusing that the set listed doesnt exist, and the existing set is listed in another category =\
21:08.49Keolahdon't look at me, I just idle here.
21:09.39priffheh, looks like lots of people do :P
21:09.44priffoh well.. i tried >_>
21:10.10KeolahNot really, wait a few ;p
21:10.10Zeali don't know which set you mean
21:10.19Zealthere are several druid epic pvp sets
21:10.27Keolahand how do you know it doesn't exist? ;p
21:10.49Zealslow wiki is still slow :/
21:11.46Sky2042_afkZeal: just you
21:12.02Zealhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Druid_set#PvP_Sets seems fine
21:12.05Zeallies
21:12.26Zeali opened 6 pages since i said that, sitll waiting for 4 to load.
21:12.36priffthe vendor sed to sell the grand marshalls set sells the gladiators set
21:12.49priffthe grand marshalls set doesnt exist... there's no lvl 70 blue set...
21:12.59priff(pvp rewards still) :P
21:13.12priffsed... what happened there.. said
21:13.19KeolahSo someone just made it up out of the clear blue sky? :P
21:13.40priffno... it used to exist.. but the vendor sells the old season 1 arena set instead...
21:13.54priffpeople might still have it.. but there's no vendor that sells it
21:14.11priffand if there is.. its not the vendor the page claims >_>
21:14.20Zealkk
21:14.34Zealwell either way, they aren't epic it seems, just rare.
21:15.30priffyes... he sells an epic set now... that used to be arena season 1... http://www.wowwiki.com/Gladiator%27s_Refuge which was what i was looking for
21:16.30foxlitThe question is, was there ever a level 70 epic pvp set?
21:16.49priffthere is
21:16.54priffjust go look at the vendor
21:17.13foxlit(a) Can't be bothered to move
21:17.21foxlit(b) Season 1 arena set != PvP epic set
21:17.23priffthe set i just linked, is sold by the vendor in champions hall for ~65k honour and a bunch of the tokens
21:18.25foxlitThat's the arena season 1 set, I'm not interested in that
21:20.05priffwell i was, but when i went to look for it it wasnt where it ought to be.. and when i thought i'd fix that i got confused and came here to talk to someone who has a clue what its all about :P
21:21.54Bagginswwwas trusk one of the gladiators?
21:23.32Bagginswwin the comic
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21:40.22Bagginswwahh sky I was just about to ask where haatom came from
21:40.35Bagginswwrandom name?
21:40.52Sky2042_afk[[haatom]]
21:40.52[NewsBot]Sky2042_afk meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/haatom
21:41.01Sky2042_afklink plx
21:41.21Bagginswwdoesn't even have a page
21:42.09Sky2042_afkhttp://wow.allakhazam.com/db/object.html?wobject=4003 ?...
21:42.13Sky2042_afklol
21:42.43Bagginswwlol
21:42.52Bagginswwwell doesn't look like a felguard to me LOL
21:44.01BagginswwIf I ever come across another Haatom I'll let you know :p
21:44.51Sky2042_afkit's a randomized name for Warlock felguards
21:45.03Sky2042_afkand Felpuppys, apparently.
21:45.23Sky2042_afkhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=7FA04D13ADB1BE90A6494768248DE0BE?topicId=89420507&postId=1042427144&sid=1
21:45.25DuTempetenever seen it on felguards, but it's definitely a felhound name
21:45.44Sky2042_afkpost #149 claims felguard also
21:45.49Bagginswwoh
21:46.01Bagginswwhmm it would be interesting to have a full list of all the randomized names
21:46.31Sky2042_afkthere's an arena 2v2 ranked 76th with the name
21:46.41Sky2042_afkon Thrall US
21:47.30Bagginswwahh
21:47.43Sky2042_afkbut no, no official names for the name
21:49.09Bagginswwahh
21:49.29Bagginswwwell the randomzied name list has to be in the game files somewhere. That would be interesting list to have
21:49.34Bagginswwlike we did with the language lists
21:50.01Bagginswwhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Gurubashi_Arena we should give that an infobox.
21:50.24BagginswwI can give a list of races found inside of it :)
21:50.59Keolahheh, I was actually looking for such a list the other day ;p
21:51.01Sky2042_afkthat's sad.
21:52.07Keolahalso, what is generally done with items which have the same name but different stats?
21:52.27Sky2042_afkKeolah: disambiguate by rarity or level, depending on the case.
21:52.39Sky2042_afki can think of only one itme which needs rarity disambigged
21:52.53Keolah[[Signet Ring of the Hand]] lists the combat version, but there's also a caster version from the same quest.
21:52.54[NewsBot]Keolah meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Signet_Ring_of_the_Hand
21:54.19Sky2042_afkthen make a second page titled [[Signet Ring of the Hand (caster)]], move that one to [[Signet Ring of the Hand (melee)]], or somesuch, and then make that page (which is now a redirect) into a disambiguation page.
21:56.36Bagginswwor put both on the same page
21:56.40Bagginswwin seperate sections
21:56.43Sky2042_afkBagginsww: no.
21:56.49Bagginswwwith the information about the quest above
21:56.53Sky2042_afkBagginsww: screws up transclusions.
21:56.57Bagginswwahh
21:57.29Bagginswwso they split medivh's staff onto 3-4 pages?
21:57.39Sky2042_afkuh huh
21:57.45Bagginswwnever noticed
21:57.48Sky2042_afkall the main stuff is still on the main page.
21:57.54Sky2042_afk[[Atiesh, Greatstaff of the Guardian]]
21:57.55[NewsBot]Sky2042_afk meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Atiesh,_Greatstaff_of_the_Guardian
21:58.31BagginswwI odn't see any disambig pages
21:58.43Bagginswwok I see
21:59.06Sky2042_afkall the main info is still on the central page, which is nice.
21:59.11Bagginswwya
21:59.40Bagginswwactually I'm kinda glad it doesn't have the annoying disambig template :p
21:59.48BagginswwI mean for an article that important
22:00.05Zealkill iiit
22:00.15Bagginswwlol
22:00.19Sky2042_afkZeal: no. bad Zeal. Bad.
22:00.30BagginswwI mean its ok for stuff like
22:00.33Bagginsww[[monk]]
22:00.34[NewsBot]Bagginsww meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/monk
22:01.50Zealkeel eat
22:02.17Sky2042_afkwhy does monk disambiguate to runemaster?...
22:02.17Bagginswwlol
22:02.26Bagginswwbecause the rpg calls it "monk-like" class
22:02.32Sky2042_afkand pandaren?
22:02.39Bagginswwbecause rpg says they have monks
22:02.39Zealwas about to ask the same sky :P
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22:02.47Zealnot really a disambig tbh.
22:03.00Sky2042_afkkilled pandaren.
22:03.29Bagginswwthe quote is on top actually
22:03.51Sky2042_afkaye
22:03.56Sky2042_afkand the link should be there ;P
22:04.43Bagginswwzeal there isn't enough official info about minks for it to be its own page :p
22:05.09Bagginswwinfact according to original RPG book Monks don't fit the warcraft setting LOL
22:05.20Bagginswwwhich is why I think they created runemaster instead
22:05.25Bagginswwto fit that nich for players
22:05.29Bagginsww*fill
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22:05.39Zealthere's enough for it to exist
22:05.45Zealscrew article content size
22:05.59Bagginswwsure if I quote the fact that "monks" don't fit hte warcraft setting :p
22:06.18Bagginswwyou can read more about that over on
22:06.21Bagginsww[[class ideas]]
22:06.22[NewsBot]Bagginsww meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/class_ideas
22:06.31Bagginswwsee the section toward the bottom
22:06.45Bagginswwdenied classes
22:06.53Zealsimply saying they are a DnD class that has inspired various warcraft classes and list them, and point out panderans are supposed to have a version of them too.
22:07.22Bagginswwwell you have to remember when first rpg book came out WoW wasn't out
22:07.28BagginswwWoW proves that monks are viable
22:07.43Bagginswwwe see them in several factions wearing ninja like clothing and kickboxing
22:07.58Bagginswwgranted that fact should be mentioned int he article :)
22:08.09Bagginswwalong with a picture of a scarlet monk, :)
22:08.10Zealnot even questioning that, just saying, seems there's enough there to provide an explanation of the term within warcraft and what other articles relate to it.
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22:08.48Bagginswwwell I'd be willing to drop the disambig as long valid citeably info is added
22:09.11Bagginswwand it doesn't rervert back to a fanfic page as it was when Mr. X8 first created it :p
22:15.13BagginswwI still don't undrestand why we don't have a list of zones of Zul'Aman....
22:15.22Sky2042_afksubzones?..
22:15.36Bagginswwright
22:16.41Zealnever have added instance sub-zones have we?
22:17.23Bagginswwwe do it most of the time
22:17.38Bagginswwjust no one has done it for zul'aman
22:18.15Sky2042_afkZeal: a couple of instances have subzone lists
22:19.26BagginswwI think most do already
22:20.35Zealdoubt that considering most don't even have any.
22:21.02Bagginswwmost don't?
22:21.38Zealatleast not that i've noticed.
22:22.23Bagginswwok I'm checking on that
22:22.26Bagginswwdeadmines does
22:22.33Sky2042_afkBRD also
22:22.48Zealdeadmines i know
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22:22.57Bagginswwchecking sfk now
22:23.11Zealsfk, according ww, no, but i suspect it does.
22:23.23Bagginswwits large enough
22:23.32BagginswwI should check it out
22:24.03Bagginswwstormwind stockade is kinda small so maybe not
22:24.06Zealuldaman (slowwiki ffs), does (still remember the incorrect naming issues with soem quest text).
22:24.32Bagginswwsuch as?
22:25.08pcjDeeprun Tram doesn't
22:25.18Sky2042_afklol
22:25.18Zealwhy isn't SM split ffs?
22:25.21Bagginswwgnomer doesn't
22:25.25Bagginsww*does
22:25.26BagginswwI mean
22:25.27Sky2042_afkZeal: split?
22:25.29Zealseperate instances, just like any winged one.
22:25.41Sky2042_afkthey aren't technically
22:25.45Bagginswwwell SM is actually several interances
22:25.48Bagginswwthey are all connected
22:26.00Bagginsww*has several enterances
22:26.01Zealas are all winged instances.
22:26.03Sky2042_afkyou'll register as being in SM in a /who, but you won't where
22:26.07Zealwhich are seperate articles, no?
22:26.30Bagginswwnot that I know of
22:26.35Bagginswwsubzones are seperate articles
22:26.45Bagginswwso there is probably seperate wing articles too
22:26.50Sky2042_afkslowwiki is slow.
22:26.56Zealrofl they are for all TBC isntance,s but not pre-tbc.
22:27.00Zealfix plx?
22:27.18Bagginswwwell winged instances in TBC aren't interconnected
22:27.32Bagginswwyou can't walk into one and come out of another
22:27.47Bagginswwscarlet monastery is all connected
22:27.49Sky2042_afktrue. but you'll show up as being in the arcatraz, or whatnot.
22:27.51Zealsince when can you do that in SM?
22:27.51kd3you can't in SM either. only DM n/e is that possible iirc
22:28.00Zeal^
22:28.11Bagginswwthere are passages in SM that connect to other areas
22:28.14Bagginswwat least for some of them
22:28.26kd3there are? you sure you're not thinking of the entry atrium?
22:28.33Zealand sky, that's simply because they share the same name for their zone, they are still seperate both in game files and in perception of players.
22:28.35pcjDire Maul does that
22:28.37BagginswwI solo that place alot
22:28.43BagginswwSM
22:29.28Zealpretty sure SM has only an non-instanced entrance and the 4 seperate instances that do not connect.
22:29.55Zealand either way, i still don't think being able to walk directly between them is reason to have them in the same articles.
22:31.33Bagginswwin ancase yes there needs to be seperate articles either way ;)
22:31.37BagginswwI agree
22:31.47Bagginswwjust like we make subzones seperate articles too
22:32.06Zealthat i don't agree with, but w/e :p
22:32.20Zealif you mean of instances that is
22:32.33Bagginswwyes we hav earticles for subzones
22:32.36Bagginswwin instances
22:32.53Bagginswwfor lore reasons and other
22:33.32Zealhm.. i never bothered to go to http://www.wowwiki.com/Morgan%27s_Plot
22:34.24Zeali remain concerned that blizz still hasn't fixed the hole at the back of kara that allows you to drop under it, and if you want, kill people without them realizing you're there.
22:35.04kd3that's still the only way to get into the crypts now, isn't it?
22:35.16kd3ever since they fixed the ghost rezzing through the door trick
22:36.12Zealdoing what i just said doesn't get you to the crypts no. never been to the crypts entrance atm. apparently being polymorphed/mc'd into the entrance works though.
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22:41.43Bagginswwoh is it easy to get into zeal through the hole?
22:41.56Bagginswwoh
22:42.01Bagginswwsorry misread
22:43.39Zeal:s
22:43.58Zealfunny thing about the hole is, only certain race-gender combos fall through it.
22:44.41Zealso far i only know of orc females, didn't seem to work for tauren males, undeads or orc males.
22:45.31Zealfirst i thought it was a size issue, but when an undead didn't fall through, i threw that idea out the window.
22:45.50Sky2042_afkZeal: request of ye.
22:45.55Zealwtb more uldum lore :(
22:46.06Zealhm?
22:46.27Sky2042_afkcan you clean up http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Whatlinkshere/Quest:Ripple_Recovery_%28Step_2%29 and http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Whatlinkshere/Quest:Ripple_Recovery_%282%29 for me?
22:46.36Sky2042_afksame quests and chains, differnet names :/
22:49.23Zealhuh? wh says they're seperate quests.
22:49.38Sky2042_afkyeah. those 2 are the same quest though
22:49.46Sky2042_afktheir chains are all mixed up as well.
22:50.15Zealwh lists them as seperate quests in a 3 part chain. so i don't see the problem.
22:50.22Zealww seems to have it listed correctly
22:50.43Sky2042_afkthey. are. 2. pages. on. the. same. quest
22:51.29Zealoh wait, i see what you're getting at. why'd you link me the what links here pages? : /
22:51.50Sky2042_afkuh... iunno.
22:51.51Sky2042_afk:o
22:51.57Sky2042_afkthe differences are easier to see?
22:52.27Zealactually, there's none
22:52.33Zealjsut delete http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:Ripple_Recovery_(2)
22:52.38Zeali can't help with that :p
22:52.45Sky2042_afk(le sigh).
22:52.48Zealboth pages contain the same content.
22:52.53Zealexactly
22:53.01Zealexcept where they name themselves.
22:57.05Sky2042_afkediting with a mouse is so much faster...
22:57.06Sky2042_afko_o
22:57.09Bagginsww[[Mug'Thol]]
22:57.10[NewsBot]Bagginsww meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Mug'Thol
22:57.24Bagginswwfor trivia sake was he one headed or two-headed in Warcraft III?
22:59.00Zealhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Mug%27thol/statistics ;)
22:59.17Arideni=0
22:59.25Sky2042_afkowned by himself
22:59.29Sky2042_afktouche Zeal. touche
22:59.53ArideniHe has one head!
23:00.11Aridenibut only one eye in WC3!
23:00.13Bagginswwpcj we have an issue :p
23:00.19Bagginswwso ya
23:00.24Bagginsww[[Rastakhan]]
23:00.25[NewsBot]Bagginsww meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Rastakhan
23:00.38Bagginswwhopes I spelled that right :p
23:00.42Zealhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:Twisted_Evils <-- shame that ends so abruptly and theres nothing much more about Terramok :/ Seems like they had plans to do something, and cut it short, hence nothing else about in in wow and no such place in mara.
23:01.12ArideniI remember that quest
23:01.17Bagginswwonly thing we know about Terramok is
23:01.21Bagginsww[[Terramok]]
23:01.21[NewsBot]Bagginsww meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Terramok
23:01.28Bagginswwa few lines in the rpg
23:01.31Bagginswwand that quest
23:02.13Zealyeah i know :p
23:02.18Bagginswwanycase Rastakhan has been said to be a jungle troll and a zandalar troll
23:02.20Zealwhich is a shame
23:02.29ArideniTerramok = the area before (historically) maraudon?
23:02.36Bagginswwbut call that "races" is a bit unclear
23:02.38sacarasci remember that quest too...
23:02.48sacarasci solo'd it at about level 45 ;o
23:02.50Aridenioh!
23:02.57Zealthe promise of titan areas and old god treasures, i feel heart broken ;_;
23:03.01ArideniYou solo'd mara at 45?
23:03.03Bagginswwya
23:03.13sacarascArideni: no, just that quest
23:03.24sacarascyou could get the things from some of the mobs outside
23:03.47ArideniOh, ^_^;'
23:03.51ArideniYeah
23:04.01ArideniThe rumblers elementals, and worms (ick!)
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23:12.49Zealdisturbs me how gnomish http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Ulduarconcept2.jpg looks. industrial techonology like that isn't really the sort of thing i would associate or expect from titan architecture.
23:13.16Sky2042_afknah
23:13.26Sky2042_afkI can see that being the type a "creator" race would be
23:13.50Sky2042_afkwould make*
23:14.41Zealseems too low tech tbh
23:14.51Zealwhen you compare it with holograms and suchs
23:14.57Zeal*such
23:15.30Zealyou'd expect them to rely on runic magic to do everything those cogs are doing.
23:15.38Sky2042_afklol
23:15.48Sky2042_afkIt hpapens that way sometiems.
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23:22.30ZealBagginsww any idea if the story of "Tyrande Whisperwind saved the frostsaber queen from rampaging Frostmaul giants, thereby securing the frostsabers’ loyalty" anywhere other than MG?
23:23.55BagginswwIts the orign of that story
23:24.14Bagginswwand makes little sense since we know sheen :)
23:24.21Bagginsww*she had a frostsaber long before then
23:24.35Bagginswwwho knows how half my sentence just disappeared on me :p
23:25.22Zeallol
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23:26.00Bagginswwmust have been touch pad
23:26.14Zealit's possible it's referring to wild frostsabres rather than those they earn loyalty from on their own terms for mounts.
23:26.57Zealunless i'm forgotting the wording from wota, which i feel i might be.
23:28.49Bagginswwno idea
23:29.05Bagginswwbut that sounds reasonable
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23:50.57deltronI think there's something amiss with my box -_-
23:51.25foxlithttp://hellokittyislandadventure.wowinsider.com/
23:51.47deltronlawl
23:51.53Bagginswwnice sky, just be careful that as you move info around that you get the citations moved around as well
23:52.05Bagginswwadd more citations as needed
23:52.23Sky2042_afkthat I did.
23:52.29Bagginswwcool
23:54.00Bagginswwya I had to revert something a few weeks back, because someone moved stuff around, and didn't move the citations properly (so things ended up being attributed to the wrong source), and finally added info that was a bit mixed up on the issue.
23:54.43Bagginswwthen I left them a message correcting them where they were mixed up, and letting them know to try again but to make sure to add more citations if info was being split up
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