| 00:02.38 | pcj | Well, draenei paladins are vindicators, and draenei priests are anchorites |
| 00:04.03 | Bagginsw | drain paladins are also paladins |
| 00:04.13 | Bagginsw | vindicator is more of a name of honor |
| 00:04.16 | Bagginsw | they get later on |
| 00:04.24 | Bagginsw | I followed the quest line a bit |
| 00:04.27 | Bagginsw | same for the priests |
| 00:04.43 | pcj | pfft well if you consider it only humans and maybe dwarves should actually be "paladin"s |
| 00:05.01 | Bagginsw | paladin is only a name really |
| 00:05.17 | Bagginsw | it originates from the english language :p |
| 00:07.29 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: PTR Patch 2.3.2 notes leaked - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/11/21/ptr-patch-2-3-2-notes-leaked-/ |
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| 00:12.21 | pcj | "Hearthstone: The cast time on this item is no longer affected by spell haste." lol |
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| 00:14.11 | Bagginsw | lol |
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| 00:24.56 | Bagginsw | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Elven_horse |
| 00:24.57 | Bagginsw | :p |
| 00:25.08 | Bagginsw | that has to be the most stupid thing I've had to explain to someone ever... |
| 00:29.07 | pcj | So paladins don't really summon their steeds from the Light like warlocks summon theirs from the Nightmare? |
| 00:31.03 | Lukian | "No, the Blood Elf Paladin Mount. They're different. The Pally one is non organic magic." |
| 00:31.15 | Lukian | lolwut? |
| 00:32.32 | cladhaire | lol |
| 00:32.34 | cladhaire | that's awesome |
| 00:34.15 | Bagginsw | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Elven_horse |
| 00:34.16 | Bagginsw | sigh |
| 00:34.49 | Bagginsw | to be honest I don't know if lore supports the summoned steeds for warlocks either |
| 00:35.03 | Bagginsw | I'd have to research what the rpg did with that |
| 00:35.17 | Bagginsw | but horses in the RPG are definitely real |
| 00:35.39 | Bagginsw | and they follow the person who owns them, and the person rides them like they'd ride a normal horse |
| 00:35.49 | Bagginsw | there is no weird "summoning ritual" |
| 00:35.57 | Bagginsw | for any mount in the rpg |
| 00:36.04 | Bagginsw | as far as I know |
| 00:36.07 | pcj | So they just keep them in their inventory? |
| 00:36.17 | pcj | RPG nubs must have like 30 slot bags |
| 00:36.55 | Bagginsw | nah the horse just follows them |
| 00:37.05 | Bagginsw | actually horses carry their stuff most of the time |
| 00:37.37 | Bagginsw | [[horse]] |
| 00:37.38 | [NewsBot] | Bagginsw meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/horse |
| 00:37.47 | Bagginsw | infobot not working today? |
| 00:38.00 | pcj | ~ping |
| 00:38.01 | infobot | pong |
| 00:38.06 | pcj | Seems to be |
| 00:38.10 | pcj | Why? |
| 00:38.11 | Bagginsw | newsbot you are slow :p |
| 00:40.44 | Bagginsw | lol just commenting how I used [[horse]] and it took so long to post it :p |
| 00:40.54 | Bagginsw | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Heavywarhorse.JPG |
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| 00:53.41 | pcj | god |
| 00:54.19 | Kirkburn | Yes, I know I am |
| 00:54.27 | Kirkburn | But you don't have to tell everyone :) |
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| 01:15.56 | pcj | ....omfg fandy |
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| 01:23.47 | Sky2042_afk | pcj: "fandy"? |
| 01:24.19 | pcj | http://www.wowwiki.com/Pattern:_Drums_of_Speed http://www.wowwiki.com/Pattern:_Drums_of_Restoration should be disambig'd instead of Kurenai/Mag'har |
| 01:27.40 | Sky2042 | (Kirkburn's ignoring me) |
| 01:27.47 | Sky2042 | pcj: sure. |
| 01:27.58 | Kirkburn | Of course not |
| 01:28.08 | Sky2042 | kek |
| 01:28.13 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 01:30.48 | Sky2042 | oh, lol pcj |
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| 01:36.07 | Sky2042 | did the wiki die at some point in the past 2 hours? |
| 01:36.16 | pcj | !jobqueue |
| 01:36.19 | [NewsBot] | The www.wowwiki.com job queue length is currently 66475 doing ~ job/s, done in approx. 0secs. |
| 01:36.37 | Sky2042 | so, blame fandyllic? |
| 01:36.40 | Sky2042 | ok! |
| 01:38.03 | pcj | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Template%3ATooltip&diff=996463&oldid=996180 |
| 01:38.30 | Sky2042 | yeah, i noticed earlier |
| 01:43.32 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: The Light and How To Swing It: Surviving 1-20 as a pally - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/11/21/the-light-and-how-to-swing-it-surviving-1-20-as-a-pally/ |
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| 02:00.14 | sacarasc | can anyone answer this thing that's been puzzling me for ages... why does the deeprun tram go east-west when it should be going north-south? |
| 02:00.47 | Sky2042 | sacarasc: it's all an illusion! |
| 02:00.59 | sacarasc | damn gnomish illusionists |
| 02:01.05 | Sky2042 | it actually turns, you just don't realize it with your primitive senses |
| 02:01.28 | sacarasc | the minimap has it quite straight |
| 02:01.53 | sacarasc | and running along it w/o having to turn at all also makes me think it's straight |
| 02:01.59 | Sky2042 | they also fudger any and all communications between you and the outside! |
| 02:03.25 | sacarasc | so you enter it, get put under an illusion where you think you're on the tram then get teleported to the other end? |
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| 02:05.42 | Lukian | the deeprun tram instance is just that, an instance |
| 02:05.52 | Lukian | it doesn't exist where it should :) |
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| 02:43.59 | Michelle_ | hello |
| 02:44.11 | Michelle_ | am i in the right place to get help with a macro im tryignt o work |
| 02:44.32 | Michelle_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:44.42 | Bagginsw | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Elven_horse#Old_Picture |
| 02:44.43 | Bagginsw | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:46.14 | Bagginsw | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Ogre_mage |
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| 02:49.04 | bleeter | Michelle_: you'll have better luck asking macro/mod questions in #wowi-lounge |
| 02:49.22 | bleeter | Michelle_: for that's where many mod authors and contributors to the UI/Macro forum 'hang out' |
| 02:49.22 | Michelle_ | thanks |
| 02:50.36 | Bagginsw | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Paladin#In_Real_Life |
| 02:50.37 | Bagginsw | LOL |
| 02:52.32 | pcj | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Female#In_Real_Life |
| 02:52.36 | pcj | no jk |
| 02:53.38 | Bagginsw | LOL |
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| 02:56.31 | Bagginsw | "Does anyone know what a real lif female is? I'm guessing they are a special kind of human. Besides Warcraft and WoW I've seen it in real life" |
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| 02:59.11 | Bagginsw | Hmm are main world of warcraft article lacks the release date information |
| 02:59.15 | Bagginsw | *our |
| 03:06.27 | bleeter | is it my imagination, or is it new that killing syndicate gives ravenholdt rep? |
| 03:07.26 | Kirkburn|sleep | http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_2.3.0_%28undocumented_changes%29 ... "Killing some (but not all) members of the Syndicate now gives Ravenholdt reputation, and decreases Syndicate faction (previously killing Syndicate NPCs did not lower this faction's reputation)" |
| 03:08.38 | bleeter | sweet |
| 03:08.57 | Bagginsw | pcj to answer your earlier question yes it looks like warlock horses are indeed fel companionsin the lore |
| 03:09.04 | Bagginsw | in that they are enslaved and summoned |
| 03:09.11 | pcj | hah |
| 03:09.16 | Bagginsw | as stated in monster guide |
| 03:09.29 | Bagginsw | paladin horses on the other hand are the real thing |
| 03:09.47 | Bagginsw | in manycases they were the same horses the had when they were knights |
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| 03:10.24 | pcj | so is the whole going to DM and scholo and redeeming the soul of the mount not really close to the lore at all |
| 03:11.02 | Bagginsw | not sure |
| 03:11.52 | Bagginsw | give me a moment I'll get the MG quote |
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| 03:14.13 | Bagginsw | Felsteeds are the fiery equine servants of the Burning Legion. At one time, they were common horses that became enslaved and fell to the Burning Legion’s sinister influence. Now corrupted and evil, they feel both intense loyalty and burning hatred toward their demon masters. Many warlocks choose a felsteed as a fel companion for the practical convenience of travel on demand. To the felsteed, there is no difference between a mortal master and a |
| 03:14.13 | Bagginsw | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:15.28 | pcj | hmm well what i meant is the redeeming of the pally mount not in the lore |
| 03:15.56 | Bagginsw | oh its probably how one of the paladin's go this horse |
| 03:16.00 | Bagginsw | *got his |
| 03:16.13 | Bagginsw | I hightly doubt its something that could be repeated by every single paladin |
| 03:16.20 | Bagginsw | *highly |
| 03:16.29 | Bagginsw | maybe a few paladins |
| 03:23.25 | Bagginsw | http://www.wowwiki.com/Loa |
| 03:23.45 | Bagginsw | ok, are those the true names of the amani primal gods |
| 03:23.54 | Bagginsw | or the names of the trolls taking on the powers of the primal gods? |
| 03:24.14 | Bagginsw | because if its the later it needs to be specified |
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| 03:38.10 | Bagginsw | http://www.wowwiki.com/Detect_Magic in honor of the removed spell, I decided to add the lore/background info from the RPG, ;) |
| 03:39.38 | bleeter | lol |
| 03:41.22 | Fisker- | would be a shame if someone had to kill Bagginsww |
| 03:41.41 | Bagginsw | You can't kill that which is already dead ;) |
| 03:42.01 | Fisker- | indeed i can |
| 03:42.27 | Bagginsw | lots his other w? |
| 03:42.32 | bleeter | *lost |
| 03:42.48 | Bagginsw | computer at home :p |
| 03:42.55 | bleeter | ahh |
| 03:42.57 | Bagginsw | its still logged in |
| 03:43.06 | Fisker- | one does not simply press w twice |
| 03:43.10 | Bagginsw | I'm on my laptop |
| 03:44.16 | Bagginsw | well, I'm off to my next class take care everyone. |
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| 04:20.52 | sacarasc | hah! took a lot of boredom and riding but i just got mining up to 300... i started monday |
| 04:21.29 | Sky2042 | nice |
| 04:21.33 | Sky2042 | to 375! |
| 04:21.38 | Sky2042 | or 350 |
| 04:21.41 | Sky2042 | or w/e the number is |
| 04:21.43 | Sky2042 | >.> |
| 04:23.33 | sacarasc | would but outland isn't as easy to ride around... only level 62 ;p |
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| 05:37.29 | Guest21160 | hey people. |
| 05:39.52 | Soby | need a little help here. |
| 05:39.58 | Soby | something about macros |
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| 06:37.33 | Bagginsww | gg I found one of those in my apartment today |
| 06:37.42 | Bagginsww | dead at least :p |
| 06:37.58 | Bagginsww | and it was longer than that :p |
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| 12:20.41 | p0tet | is there anyway i can completely reinstall an addon (bartender3), without touching anyting else? |
| 12:21.12 | p0tet | as in not having to delete the whole WTF folder and so on |
| 12:21.47 | Fisker- | World of Warcraft\WTF\Account\<accountname>\SavedVariables\bartender3.lua |
| 12:21.53 | Fisker- | should do the trick if you delete that |
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| 12:23.20 | Kalroth | uninstall Bartender3 and run the cleanup script in WAU |
| 12:24.14 | p0tet | Fisker-: That didnt work.. bartender3 is still f'ed up |
| 12:24.42 | Fisker- | you could try what Kalroth suggests |
| 12:24.48 | p0tet | i will |
| 12:34.29 | p0tet | didnt work. can there be other addons affecting bartender3 other than ace, that could messs it up.. making buttons stick and not work? |
| 12:37.02 | p0tet | ahh... screw it. ima reinstall it all |
| 12:46.40 | Fisker- | oh nos |
| 12:46.42 | Fisker- | it's an Adys |
| 12:47.02 | Adys | No, it's not |
| 12:48.19 | Kalroth | hi honeybunz!1 |
| 12:48.29 | Kalroth | Fisker-: YOU'RE NOT A BEAR. I'M LOOKING FOR A BEAR! |
| 12:51.34 | Fisker- | ok |
| 12:52.30 | Fisker- | Adys i want a game to play |
| 12:52.38 | Fisker- | preferably starting with S and ending with I |
| 12:52.44 | Fisker- | or starting with W and ending with G |
| 12:53.57 | Kalroth | Sex Am I |
| 12:54.22 | Adys | Sex with the gnomes II |
| 12:54.34 | Kalroth | Where In The World Is Carmen Sandieg |
| 12:54.56 | Adys | Willy says GG |
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| 12:56.54 | Fisker- | Slitting Adys' throat II |
| 13:00.58 | Adys | NO ZEAL NOOOOOO |
| 13:01.01 | Fisker- | also |
| 13:01.03 | Fisker- | what about |
| 13:01.25 | Fisker- | "We're breaking into Blizzard and stealing Starcraft II + Wrath of the Lich King"? |
| 13:01.33 | Zeal | O_o |
| 13:01.37 | Fisker- | sounds like a fun game |
| 13:01.45 | Zeal | lol |
| 13:02.04 | Zeal | final manga from forbbiden planet, yay. |
| 13:02.28 | Zeal | and yet again, they forgot to print my house number, luckily the post man had a letter for me too, so matched the address. |
| 13:03.36 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Breakfast Topic: Holiday playtime - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/11/22/breakfast-topic-holiday-playtime/ |
| 13:04.48 | Zeal | now i think i'll chase up dc comics for my wow pre-order.. |
| 13:08.27 | Fisker- | lol |
| 13:08.31 | Fisker- | npc's can take the lift |
| 13:08.44 | Fisker- | but this npc is only taking part of the way up |
| 13:08.48 | Fisker- | then he falls down |
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| 13:15.14 | Luna-San | Hm, no idea on this wiki's approach to preemptive protection. Is it customary for widely transcluded templates to be protected, or not so much? |
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| 13:15.47 | foxlit | moo? |
| 13:15.58 | Zeal | they usually get protected yeah |
| 13:16.03 | Zeal | but plenty slip through. |
| 13:16.28 | Luna-San | {{questlong}} for example >.> |
| 13:16.29 | [NewsBot] | Luna-San meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:questlong |
| 13:16.48 | foxlit | Luna-San: only if there's a reason to protect them, tbh |
| 13:17.09 | Luna-San | *nod* |
| 13:17.49 | Luna-San | Other random noob question, I notice NPC articles tend to mention quests the NPC begins... what about quests they end? Or am I just missing something? |
| 13:24.30 | Zeal | mm.. those dell exclusive wallpapers are nice. |
| 13:24.51 | Zeal | shame they're all widescreen sizes. |
| 13:24.53 | Zeal | lame |
| 13:25.08 | Kalroth | 4:3 is so 1999 |
| 13:25.29 | Zeal | not for pc's |
| 13:25.43 | Zeal | oh sigh.. |
| 13:25.46 | Zeal | gg dell |
| 13:25.57 | Zeal | your site is feeding them with incorrect headers.. |
| 13:26.04 | Zeal | untitled.bmp ftl |
| 13:30.05 | Zeal | anyone else interested, http://dellgamingus.p.delivery.net/m/p/del/wow/Thankyou.html |
| 13:31.42 | Lukian | lol Zeal |
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| 14:58.38 | Fisker- | :O Adys |
| 14:58.42 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=1710651199&sid=1 |
| 14:58.43 | Fisker- | we must know |
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| 15:11.33 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Around Azeroth: The town of Caer Darrow - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/11/22/around-azeroth-the-town-of-caer-darrow/ |
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| 15:14.51 | Zeal | O_o |
| 15:15.40 | Zeal | hey Kirkburn |
| 15:15.47 | pcj | sup kirkburn |
| 15:15.59 | Kirkburn | hullo |
| 15:24.35 | Fisker- | finally |
| 15:24.46 | Fisker- | reduced 20 stacks to 5 stacks :D |
| 15:29.27 | [NewsBot] | GamePolitics: On Thanksgiving Day, We Thank Gamers Who Give Back - http://gamepolitics.com/2007/11/22/on-thanksgiving-day-we-thank-gamers-who-give-back/ |
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| 15:34.21 | Fisker- | http://i15.tinypic.com/8a16kpi.png |
| 15:34.22 | Fisker- | :) |
| 15:34.31 | elusif | is there anywhere i can download the 2.3.0 patch from? |
| 15:34.44 | elusif | i'm in a net cafe and it says it will take 3 hours :( |
| 15:35.05 | Fisker- | www.wowwiki.com/Patch_Mirrors |
| 15:35.10 | elusif | ty |
| 15:35.12 | elusif | :D |
| 15:36.54 | Lukian | Fisker-, #wowhead :p |
| 15:37.17 | Lukian | maybe I'll just crosspost |
| 15:37.18 | Lukian | Opera UserJS / General JS for Wowhead power on *ANY* item link: http://www.wowhead.com/?forums&topic=3464&p=35703#p35703 |
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| 15:43.00 | elusif | haven't got broadband in my new flat yet |
| 15:43.07 | elusif | serious withdrawl symptoms! |
| 15:43.17 | elusif | i need to kil lteh hordes :( |
| 15:51.35 | pcj | woot i got a mr. pinchy |
| 15:54.57 | Zeal | stupid client-side logic, die. |
| 16:02.20 | Adys | http://sc.gosugamers.net/ |
| 16:03.33 | Zeal | you want sc2wiki now? :p |
| 16:07.33 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Totem Talk: So you're still working on your Shaman... - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/11/22/totem-talk-so-youre-still-working-on-your-shaman/ |
| 16:07.40 | Kirkburn | starcraft.wikia.com, Zeal :P |
| 16:09.45 | Zeal | i assumed it existed |
| 16:10.05 | Zeal | just meant run by wowwiki admins :P |
| 16:14.01 | dreamss | i dint notice the upgraded the lock pet spells, anyone trying using this debuffs to raid? |
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| 16:57.29 | Kirkburn | So how is everyone? :) |
| 16:58.20 | Kalroth | hi Kirky! |
| 16:59.01 | Kirkburn | I'm trying to rescue the Gears of War wiki from oblivion atm :P |
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| 17:14.44 | Ose | well this is quiet... |
| 17:15.28 | Zeal | moo |
| 17:15.55 | Ose | baa? |
| 17:16.29 | quiescens | moo |
| 17:16.30 | Kirkburn | oink |
| 17:16.38 | Ose | k |
| 17:16.41 | Zeal | squark! |
| 17:19.11 | Kirkburn | freak |
| 17:20.28 | Zeal | http://www.zealvurte.co.uk/temp/psytang.gif <-- freak |
| 17:21.12 | Ose | pokemon? |
| 17:21.44 | Zeal | lol |
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| 17:28.57 | Ose | oh crap... I tried adding another character tab, and now my profile page is COMPLETELY messed up... anyone can tell me what to do? (http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Ose) |
| 17:30.12 | Zeal | they float right |
| 17:30.16 | Zeal | should clear |
| 17:30.31 | pcj | fixed it |
| 17:30.38 | Zeal | and also probably shouldn't use absolutely-relative to layout your profile. |
| 17:30.49 | Zeal | *relatively-absolute |
| 17:32.15 | Bagginsww | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:32.32 | Bagginsww | I think there is something wrong with x8's mind sometimes :p |
| 17:32.52 | Bagginsww | ok I confess most of the tiem :p |
| 17:32.54 | Lukian | I just wrote javascript to redirect all href item links to wowhead :D |
| 17:32.55 | Bagginsww | *time |
| 17:33.12 | Lukian | thottbot urls now take me to the item on wowhead XD |
| 17:34.46 | Zeal | die |
| 17:39.25 | pcj | is someone running ie6? |
| 17:40.39 | Zeal | can do if you need to test something |
| 17:40.45 | Ose | I swear to Firefox... |
| 17:41.08 | pcj | just tell me how the hover tooltips look in IE6 |
| 17:41.38 | Zeal | hm.. i'll probably need to logout. one sec |
| 17:43.17 | Zeal | look ok |
| 17:43.23 | Zeal | slightly blueish bg, solid colour |
| 17:43.36 | pcj | good |
| 17:44.06 | Zeal | though i am getting lots of js errors |
| 17:44.37 | pcj | that's probably not mine but from the ads |
| 17:45.00 | Zeal | line: 267, char: 3, Object doesn't support this property or method |
| 17:45.17 | Zeal | it on every page, so not ad related |
| 17:45.21 | Zeal | no idea |
| 17:45.26 | pcj | well what's on line 267 lol |
| 17:45.53 | Zeal | well that's the thing. ie debugger for js is crap |
| 17:46.02 | Zeal | line 267 could be anywhere afaik |
| 17:46.25 | pcj | as long as they work i'm not gonna worry about it then |
| 17:47.04 | Zeal | //--></script> |
| 17:47.12 | Zeal | ^ that's line 267 :p |
| 17:47.21 | pcj | yeah it's probably off |
| 17:47.34 | pcj | what is that closing |
| 17:48.10 | Zeal | google ads code block |
| 17:48.19 | pcj | heh |
| 17:49.03 | Zeal | hm, think it might be the wikia spotlight causing the trouble though. as ie6 asks to click ok to continue loading the page jsut before it. |
| 17:49.17 | Zeal | never seen that prompt before :s |
| 17:53.14 | Fisker- | jump Adys |
| 17:53.52 | pcj | How high? |
| 17:54.12 | Fisker- | higher |
| 17:54.17 | Ose | what excactly is {{clrr}} for? |
| 17:54.36 | Zeal | creates an element that clears any right floats |
| 17:54.51 | Zeal | which forces them to float below any existing floats. |
| 17:55.09 | Ose | ok |
| 17:55.10 | Zeal | rather than beside |
| 17:55.20 | Ose | I see... |
| 18:03.44 | Ose | Is there a way I can get {{Infobox_PC}} to stick to the left instead of the right? |
| 18:06.00 | pcj | Yes, hang on |
| 18:06.08 | Zeal | they're fixed as float: right. you'd have to do something like <div style="float: left;">{{Infobox_PC|yourparamsgohere}}{{clr}}</div> |
| 18:07.47 | pcj | Ose: Add |align=left |
| 18:08.22 | Zeal | oh yeah, i forgot those things were written by idiots and are tables ;) |
| 18:08.56 | Dotted | {{Infobox_PC}} |
| 18:08.57 | [NewsBot] | Dotted meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Infobox_PC |
| 18:11.11 | Dotted | why wouldnt you use tables for that? |
| 18:11.32 | Zeal | because it's not tabular data |
| 18:11.46 | Zeal | and fyi, i wrote tooltip as a basis to replace them all. |
| 18:11.49 | Dotted | yet its data :p |
| 18:12.20 | Zeal | it belongs in a list ;) |
| 18:12.25 | Dotted | Kirkburn fixed width on mainpage :((( |
| 18:12.31 | Dotted | remove kthx |
| 18:12.50 | Kirkburn | eh? |
| 18:13.41 | Dotted | mainpage only use about 50% of the space here |
| 18:13.53 | Zeal | monbook sucks, the main page lacks fixed width and is made in a table and that's why it falls apart at lower resolutions. |
| 18:13.59 | Kirkburn | And how wide is that monitor? |
| 18:14.00 | Zeal | *monobook |
| 18:14.02 | Dotted | more than 50%, but there is alot of whitespace :( |
| 18:14.11 | Dotted | Kirkburn 22" 16:10 :P |
| 18:14.19 | Kirkburn | Res, duh |
| 18:14.33 | Kirkburn | It could be 22" and have one pixel on it >_> |
| 18:14.43 | Dotted | 16*10 pixels |
| 18:14.53 | Zeal | "max-width: 80em" |
| 18:14.56 | pcj | that would be a huge pixel kirkburn |
| 18:14.59 | Kirkburn | Zeal, yes |
| 18:15.14 | Dotted | 1680x1050 |
| 18:15.21 | Zeal | change to "min-width: 70em" plx ;) |
| 18:15.22 | Dotted | wikipedia works fine with it, so wowwiki is at fault |
| 18:15.22 | pcj | i found your problem dotted |
| 18:15.31 | Dotted | \o/ |
| 18:15.44 | Zeal | wikipedia doesn't work fine with it, i can replacate the same problems in wikipedia, and i've seen them on there, lol. |
| 18:15.46 | Kirkburn | It's intentionally limited |
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| 18:16.16 | pcj | hi keolah :) |
| 18:16.29 | Zeal | anyway, why's that Kirkburn? |
| 18:17.16 | Kirkburn | Because if you don't limit it, it becomes less readable |
| 18:17.32 | Zeal | that's what you use inner limits for |
| 18:17.38 | Zeal | limti the content, not the layout :P |
| 18:17.41 | Kirkburn | It's why most websites you come across have a limited width |
| 18:17.48 | Zeal | yes, and they suck |
| 18:17.49 | Zeal | lol |
| 18:17.53 | Dotted | Kirkburn atleast make it align left then : |
| 18:18.07 | Kirkburn | Limited the content width wouldn't make sense with a box design |
| 18:18.18 | Zeal | aye, it would. |
| 18:18.19 | Kirkburn | You either get boxes with gaps, or gaps with boxes |
| 18:18.30 | Dotted | it just screams of we cant design prober ;( |
| 18:18.37 | Kirkburn | o_O |
| 18:18.49 | pcj | You should make it so some of the boxes come up in a third column if the resolution's too freaking huge |
| 18:18.50 | Dotted | you heard me |
| 18:18.55 | Adys | Baggins :p |
| 18:18.56 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Leeroy_Jenkins&action=history |
| 18:18.59 | Zeal | gaps inside boxes aroudn the content is how it should be. |
| 18:18.59 | Adys | the hell :p |
| 18:19.04 | Dotted | yeah that would be win |
| 18:19.17 | Zeal | floated layout ftw |
| 18:19.25 | Zeal | shame the float model sucks |
| 18:19.56 | Kirkburn | [[Videos]], Dotted |
| 18:20.07 | Kirkburn | [[Videos]] |
| 18:20.08 | [NewsBot] | Kirkburn meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Videos |
| 18:20.09 | Zeal | lol |
| 18:20.24 | Kirkburn | That has floats :P |
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| 18:20.26 | pcj | god whoever designed newsbot sucks |
| 18:20.38 | Dotted | i agree |
| 18:20.43 | Dotted | and it wasnt me |
| 18:20.48 | Zeal | and it works well kirkburn |
| 18:20.58 | Zeal | but onyl because each box is the same size :p |
| 18:21.01 | pcj | dotted sucks too |
| 18:21.03 | Kirkburn | Anyway, wouldn't with our design :P |
| 18:21.05 | Dotted | :( |
| 18:21.27 | Zeal | make a new design ;) |
| 18:22.00 | Dotted | woop woop Insurgency beta 2 \o/ |
| 18:22.02 | Kirkburn | >_< |
| 18:22.09 | pcj | better shut up zeal or we'll get something crappy like the rest of wikia has |
| 18:22.15 | Kirkburn | min-width could make sense |
| 18:22.38 | Zeal | lol |
| 18:22.44 | Zeal | change is good |
| 18:23.01 | Zeal | and can't go too much backwards from the current one. |
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| 18:24.39 | Kirkburn | pcj, "or we'll get something crappy like the rest of wikia has" ... as much as I love people insulting my employers, that didn't make any sense |
| 18:25.02 | Zeal | made sense to me :s |
| 18:25.04 | pcj | i'm talking about the new skin everyone seems to hate |
| 18:25.07 | Dotted | me2 |
| 18:25.30 | Kirkburn | But we weren't talking about that part of the skin o_O |
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| 18:25.48 | pcj | he asked for a new design, that would be part of it |
| 18:25.49 | Kirkburn | In any case, Quartz is being worked on all the time |
| 18:26.16 | Kirkburn | And Quartz *is* coming to the wiki, despite your protestations :P |
| 18:26.18 | Zeal | well i linekd yesterday to design.wikia.com's one nad onyl article :P |
| 18:26.29 | Dotted | quartz is still pre-alpha :( |
| 18:26.36 | Zeal | and that was the criticism of the quartz skin :P |
| 18:27.02 | Dotted | aslong as the wowwiki is kept |
| 18:27.08 | Dotted | i dont care |
| 18:27.20 | Kirkburn | Zeal, eh? |
| 18:27.32 | Zeal | that wikia wiki only has one article |
| 18:27.35 | Dotted | at least until quartz is done, but that wont happen in another 2 or 3 years |
| 18:27.39 | Kirkburn | So? |
| 18:27.43 | Zeal | and its a quote about quartz |
| 18:27.47 | Zeal | just amusing |
| 18:29.02 | Kirkburn | The wikia.com page is being worked on, and the other comments are about a specific colour scheme |
| 18:29.11 | Kirkburn | There's 6 to choose from |
| 18:29.41 | Kirkburn | Odd page for that wiki though, weird |
| 18:30.16 | pcj | "We are currently editing over 2 articles," lol |
| 18:31.34 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Blood Sport: Building an Arena team, part 2 - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/11/22/blood-sport-building-an-arena-team-part-2/ |
| 18:31.44 | Zeal | imo, quartz has some nice features, great customizing options, but the design itself was celarly not throught through carefully. the colours, the ordering of links, placement of pretty much everything, styling of each module etc. theres really no "good design" in the thing, is as bad as pretty much all similar sites around. |
| 18:32.00 | Zeal | *it's |
| 18:32.29 | Zeal | haven't even dared to look at the code itself tbh. |
| 18:34.37 | Zeal | "when I go to www.wikia.com I'm not sure what to click first. Should I be "creating an account", see what "people are doing now" or find out what "hubs" mean." <-- and i couldn't agree with that line more :P |
| 18:36.15 | Kirkburn | Really? Because wikia.com doesn't look confusing at all to me |
| 18:36.46 | pcj | Well, you're crazy |
| 18:37.16 | Zeal | theres too much competing for your attention all at once. ads, multiple lists of links near the top, the obtrusive search, and that's just before you even get to the content.. |
| 18:37.33 | Kirkburn | Ads? |
| 18:38.00 | Zeal | dual spotlights at the top right. |
| 18:38.19 | Kirkburn | So, er, we're not talking about wikia.com then? |
| 18:38.46 | Zeal | hm.. actually i forgot the front page is different, lol |
| 18:38.52 | Zeal | ok, i'm talking about quartz. |
| 18:39.45 | Kirkburn | I can't imagine how you can call the search obtrusive |
| 18:40.25 | pcj | I like how the tutorial doesn't show the quartz skin |
| 18:41.06 | Kirkburn | Good point |
| 18:41.10 | Fisker- | Dotted insurgency sucks :( |
| 18:41.33 | Zeal | wasted space because of it, as it's pushed down the side area and the content there's alot of wasted space around it, it's been used as a sizing for the side area thus that area and itself takes up too much horizontal space. |
| 18:41.45 | Dotted | l2p Fisker- |
| 18:41.48 | Dotted | realism > * |
| 18:42.27 | Kirkburn | Zeal, actually the ads and spotlights size it |
| 18:43.02 | Zeal | well i'm going on the layout, which seems to have been designed around the search box, as it's giving it alot of focus. |
| 18:43.35 | Kirkburn | Well, the search box is pretty important |
| 18:43.49 | Zeal | it's usually the last thing i want unless i'm visting google.com :P |
| 18:43.56 | Kirkburn | It's not a normal search box anyway, it suggests results |
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| 18:44.05 | Zeal | content>nav>look elsewhere throguh search. |
| 18:44.53 | Zeal | though a front page ofc it makes sense to have search/nav>content |
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| 18:46.04 | Kirkburn | I've brought up the tutorial thing, though I might give it a go if I get around to it |
| 18:46.26 | Dotted | WTF |
| 18:46.37 | Dotted | newsbot should not have DCed |
| 18:46.44 | Dotted | fukin fail |
| 18:46.51 | pcj | !wwstats |
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| 18:48.42 | Zeal | oh, talking of suggestions for the search. you realize the lsit doesn't update on delete/backspace? annoying, as you'd have to delete a character before your mistake and type it out again to get the suggestion you wanted. |
| 18:49.18 | pcj | hmm |
| 18:49.29 | Kirkburn | Zeal, yes it does |
| 18:49.33 | Zeal | not for me |
| 18:49.51 | Kirkburn | Well, you know what to do |
| 18:50.34 | Zeal | say you wanted hellgate but typed he-, deleting the - doesn't update the list, you have to delete the e and then retype the e to get it. |
| 18:50.54 | Kirkburn | Something's up with your browser, mate |
| 18:50.58 | Zeal | nope |
| 18:51.04 | Kirkburn | Tried it on both Fx and IE, it's fine |
| 18:51.10 | Zeal | ie7 it's not fine |
| 18:51.13 | Zeal | but i'll check ff |
| 18:51.28 | pcj | works for me |
| 18:51.35 | Fisker- | it's fx |
| 18:51.51 | pcj | bbl |
| 18:51.59 | Kirkburn | Zeal, don't be so quick to blame others ;) |
| 18:52.06 | Zeal | ie7 it doesn't |
| 18:52.13 | Zeal | there's nothing special about my browser |
| 18:52.14 | Kirkburn | Except that it does :P |
| 18:52.19 | Zeal | ff it does work though |
| 18:52.24 | Zeal | it doesn't! |
| 18:52.25 | Dotted | Fisker- sure it is, but noone knows that :p |
| 18:52.36 | Kirkburn | Apparently I'm imagining it |
| 18:52.36 | Zeal | unless it's sepcific to one of the quartz skins |
| 18:53.12 | Zeal | ok, why the hell am i using my ucstom skin still even though i logged out. |
| 18:53.15 | Kirkburn | Can't be, they're not built that way |
| 18:53.34 | Zeal | fun |
| 18:53.41 | Zeal | reufusing to use wikia's default skin |
| 18:53.45 | Zeal | desptire being logged out. |
| 18:53.53 | Fisker- | also IE = WIN |
| 18:54.09 | Fisker- | http://i1.tinypic.com/7x9qgw7.png |
| 18:54.16 | Dotted | weren't you gonna switch to lolopera Fisker-? |
| 18:54.36 | Fisker- | 9.5 isn't out yet |
| 18:54.38 | Dotted | omg Fisker- has teh sekretz |
| 18:54.48 | Kirkburn | Fisker-, hiding all the porn tabs, eh? |
| 18:54.52 | Fisker- | yup |
| 18:54.57 | Kirkburn | kk |
| 18:55.02 | Kirkburn | links plz |
| 18:55.06 | Fisker- | i watch porn while raiding and browsing wow-europe |
| 18:55.09 | Dotted | watching porn in IE :( |
| 18:55.23 | Fisker- | yup |
| 18:55.25 | Fisker- | IE > win |
| 18:55.33 | Kirkburn | IE is better than win? |
| 18:55.38 | Kirkburn | That's quite a claim :P |
| 18:55.45 | Fisker- | yup |
| 18:56.05 | Fisker- | i have wowhead tooltips |
| 18:56.07 | Fisker- | you has not |
| 18:56.25 | Dotted | fixable |
| 18:56.35 | Zeal | well doesn't seem to be specific to skin |
| 18:56.38 | twoshadetod | anyone know when the xp is coming out? |
| 18:56.42 | Bagginsww | http://hawaiianbryan.net/pix/centipede-02.jpg btw I found one of those six inches long in my apartment yesterday :p luckily dead... |
| 18:56.47 | Kirkburn | twoshadetod, 2001 |
| 18:56.47 | Dotted | twoshadetod NO |
| 18:57.02 | Dotted | Kirkburn he said the xp, not xp |
| 18:57.10 | Kirkburn | no really |
| 18:57.16 | Dotted | yes really |
| 18:57.20 | Kirkburn | And I thought he really meant it :( |
| 18:57.29 | Dotted | sowwy |
| 18:57.42 | Kirkburn | Bagginsww, it's a good thing that link was descriptive |
| 18:57.54 | twoshadetod | anyone know? i told my girl i'd quit playing till it came out, it's been 2months since i've played |
| 18:57.59 | twoshadetod | just wondering how much time i got left |
| 18:58.04 | Bagginsww | lol all I know its a hawaiian tropical centipede |
| 18:58.09 | Bagginsww | and they aren't lethal |
| 18:58.12 | Kirkburn | I mean, if it was a 4chan link, that could have meant .... hmm |
| 18:58.13 | Dotted | twoshadetod NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO and NO |
| 18:58.20 | Bagginsww | but have a nasty bite |
| 18:58.30 | Kirkburn | Oh, where xp = WotLK |
| 18:58.47 | Kirkburn | You've got several months, 6 at least |
| 18:58.52 | Dotted | omg Kirkburn, i thought you were just trolling :( |
| 18:58.54 | twoshadetod | damn |
| 18:59.21 | Dotted | twoshadetod just make her change the password so you cant login |
| 18:59.28 | twoshadetod | wish they'd do it halfassed and release it by Xmas even if it needs to be patched to hell so i can play then when walks in the room point to the computer and go "expansion" |
| 18:59.55 | Dotted | if you then find yourself recovering your password to play again., you know you need a shrink |
| 19:00.08 | Lukian | you must really hate your girlfriend, twoshadetod :p |
| 19:00.16 | twoshadetod | hahhaha |
| 19:00.26 | twoshadetod | no i was addicted to the game |
| 19:00.42 | twoshadetod | i got to the point where it wasn't fun but i'd still play all the time, i was becoming a cave man |
| 19:00.48 | twoshadetod | but im missing my cave now... |
| 19:00.52 | Lukian | hehe |
| 19:01.00 | Lukian | but your g/f has a cave |
| 19:01.14 | Kirkburn | O_O |
| 19:01.18 | twoshadetod | yeah no shit, and that's 24/7 365, thats why i need a few hours escape |
| 19:01.33 | twoshadetod | oh that? shit man |
| 19:01.44 | Zeal | ok, it is specific to avant.. hm |
| 19:02.01 | Zeal | second ever difference, who'd have guessed. |
| 19:02.58 | Lukian | twoshadetod, anyway, I'd expect it 'early' next year |
| 19:03.36 | Dotted | early? |
| 19:03.41 | Dotted | Q2 is early? |
| 19:03.48 | Lukian | yeah! :D |
| 19:03.54 | Lukian | summer release ftw |
| 19:03.57 | twoshadetod | oh well |
| 19:03.59 | Zeal | my esitmate is march/april, but that was before the delay of 2.2 |
| 19:04.21 | Dotted | i say summer |
| 19:04.28 | twoshadetod | lol |
| 19:04.34 | twoshadetod | but at least by Xmas next year huh Dotted? |
| 19:04.35 | twoshadetod | heheh |
| 19:04.41 | Lukian | twoshadetod, just theorycraft and do game stuff outside of the game ;) |
| 19:04.42 | Dotted | before that |
| 19:05.22 | twoshadetod | man I wanna get on a nice 3 day binger fueled by Full Thottles and adrenaline |
| 19:05.58 | twoshadetod | one of those good ones where you hit that 25-30hour up mark and your energy level kinda resets and you aren't tired anymore |
| 19:07.09 | Zeal | apprently whoever wrote allinone.js never heard of line breaks.. |
| 19:08.14 | Lukian | Zeal, some editors like to compact js files :/ |
| 19:08.24 | Zeal | yeah, i hate those editors :P |
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| 19:08.45 | Ose | what other options than "darktable" do I have for tables? |
| 19:09.16 | Kirkburn | You don't, really :) |
| 19:09.30 | Zeal | ffs.. notepad++ fails at searching in wrapped content.. |
| 19:09.41 | Ose | bah |
| 19:09.49 | Kirkburn | Notepad, got the latest version? :P 4.6 came out today |
| 19:09.54 | Kirkburn | Ose, why? |
| 19:10.15 | Kirkburn | Er s/notepad/Zeal/ >_> |
| 19:10.24 | Fisker- | Chompers |
| 19:10.35 | Fisker- | we need to repeat last tuesdays OWNAGE |
| 19:11.06 | Zeal | lol |
| 19:11.08 | Zeal | nope |
| 19:11.24 | Zeal | but i didn't realize it was so crpa it needed regular ones for basic things ;) |
| 19:16.17 | Ose | Ose why what? |
| 19:16.50 | Zeal | could always style your own if you don't like it |
| 19:16.54 | Zeal | i do |
| 19:26.14 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Mage_races :p |
| 19:26.31 | Zeal | screw it, can't understand that crap |
| 19:26.59 | Fisker- | anyone here have an iphone? |
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| 19:28.13 | Zeal | nah, surprisingly mostly sane people here Fisker- ;) |
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| 19:37.57 | Bagginsww | oh zeal |
| 19:38.13 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Ragestorm#Arbritrary_Break_1 |
| 19:38.34 | Zeal | i saw |
| 19:38.51 | Bagginsww | but ya him calling you a ignorant pedant went to far, even if he meant it as a joke. |
| 19:38.59 | Zeal | lol |
| 19:39.12 | Zeal | not bothered, he got worked up because i used his words against him is all |
| 19:39.20 | Fisker- | i know Zeal |
| 19:39.23 | Bagginsww | lol |
| 19:39.23 | Fisker- | but i have to own someone |
| 19:39.34 | Fisker- | a friend of mine says that you don't have to contract to AT&T |
| 19:39.36 | Bagginsww | but ya I see so many holes in his idea its not even funny :p |
| 19:39.41 | Fisker- | But if you buy it without contract you just can't use it |
| 19:40.02 | Zeal | O2 is the provider here |
| 19:40.11 | Zeal | tbh, rather have that nokia iphone-wannabe |
| 19:40.38 | Fisker- | definitely |
| 19:40.45 | Fisker- | i'd rather have a SE w960i |
| 19:41.06 | Fisker- | pretty much the same besides the touchscreen being bigger |
| 19:41.13 | Fisker- | of course also have normal phone features |
| 19:41.16 | Zeal | same with everything, apple's products feature wise aren't very good, they're also very locked down. what's good about them is apple always bring their excellent design team to the table to perfect both the hardware and the software. |
| 19:41.19 | Fisker- | 3g, mms, etc |
| 19:42.08 | Zeal | before apple jumped into the market, nokia were my favorite ui design team. |
| 19:42.14 | dreamss | if u unlock ur iphone it looses waranty with apple |
| 19:42.16 | dreamss | heh |
| 19:42.49 | Zeal | it was clunky and everything, and has now become really bloated and crap, but they've always made good choices when it coems to intuitive controls. |
| 19:43.19 | Zeal | they worked as expected and easily, and that's why i've always used them :p |
| 19:43.20 | dreamss | lets see how android works out |
| 19:43.28 | dreamss | googles phone ui |
| 19:43.33 | Zeal | hehe |
| 19:43.37 | dreamss | mobile os? |
| 19:44.09 | Zeal | my experience with se design software is it lieks to lag/crash/freeze/die all the time ;) |
| 19:44.21 | Zeal | and it's a pain in the ass to use day in and out |
| 19:44.22 | dreamss | se? |
| 19:44.27 | Zeal | sony-ericcson |
| 19:45.31 | Zeal | windows mobile i hate |
| 19:46.11 | Zeal | leaves everything open and it's a chore to close stuff properly, especially once it starts laggins (after 2-3 programs..) |
| 19:46.20 | Zeal | *lagging |
| 19:48.58 | Fisker- | .yeah |
| 19:49.01 | Fisker- | had a windows mobile once |
| 19:49.02 | Fisker- | hated it |
| 19:49.13 | Fisker- | never had any problems with Sony Ericsson though |
| 19:52.49 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Holy_Light#Three_Virtues |
| 19:52.51 | Bagginsww | good god |
| 19:52.54 | Bagginsww | Tulon again |
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| 19:53.22 | Bagginsww | taking every single thing I edit that he may have edited as being an attack on him personally... |
| 19:53.35 | Bagginsww | I rarely check to see who edited whta |
| 19:53.45 | Lukian | haha XD |
| 19:53.51 | Sky2042 | happy tday for americans. sorry, brits! |
| 19:54.23 | Bagginsww | sky this is a warning, do not remove official pictures from articles, even if you don't like their quality. |
| 19:54.25 | Kirkburn | *grumble* |
| 19:54.58 | Kirkburn | Now that's how to celebrate Thanksgiving, tell Sky off :P |
| 19:55.19 | Kirkburn | Happy thankgiving in any case, Sky :) |
| 19:55.41 | Zeal | Sky, don't sd my userpages please ;) |
| 19:55.49 | Sky2042 | Bagginsww: eh? you are more then welcome to add them back in -_-. I was not going to take the time to readd the picture in an appropiate place |
| 19:55.55 | Sky2042 | Zeal: i don't think i have... |
| 19:56.13 | Bagginsww | sky the thing is even if you don't think its in an appropriate place don't remove it |
| 19:56.18 | Bagginsww | unless you intend to move it |
| 19:56.28 | Zeal | you did for my Template:template one. your reasonign was that it was a duplicate of the live one, lol. |
| 19:56.29 | Bagginsww | move but don't remove |
| 19:56.40 | Sky2042 | Zeal: well, it is. >.> |
| 19:56.49 | Zeal | that's the point though ;) |
| 19:56.59 | Sky2042 | why? |
| 19:57.01 | Kirkburn | eh? |
| 19:57.06 | Sky2042 | that makes no sense o_o |
| 19:57.14 | Zeal | so i have my own versions to use/do dev on. |
| 19:57.22 | Bagginsww | its a toobox :p |
| 19:57.23 | Sky2042 | mmm |
| 19:57.25 | Bagginsww | *toolbox |
| 19:57.29 | Sky2042 | *sandbox |
| 19:57.31 | Sky2042 | >.> |
| 19:57.34 | Bagginsww | lol ya that |
| 19:57.47 | Zeal | allows me to avoid interferance from everyone else who doesn't like what i do too ;) |
| 19:58.13 | Zeal | but thansk for fixing up the ones i hadn't updated yet. |
| 19:58.18 | Zeal | apprecaited |
| 19:58.44 | Sky2042 | i tried. i think i screwed up on a few :| |
| 19:58.50 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 19:59.27 | Bagginsww | so the draenei never call "light" the holy light? |
| 19:59.35 | Bagginsww | should we move holy light to "light" then? |
| 19:59.42 | Bagginsww | as both factions definitely call it "light" |
| 20:00.18 | Sky2042 | i'd keep them separate... >. |
| 20:00.19 | Sky2042 | >.> |
| 20:00.30 | Sky2042 | ehhhhh |
| 20:00.59 | Bagginsww | well the articles already discuss both races:p |
| 20:01.13 | Bagginsww | and light redirects into holy light |
| 20:01.15 | Sky2042 | i'm iffy on that one. |
| 20:01.40 | Bagginsww | also we have the blood elf version of light beliefs now to :p |
| 20:01.52 | Bagginsww | they think they are the superior believers :p |
| 20:02.47 | Bagginsww | Plus there are many examples where its just "light" rather than holy light |
| 20:02.52 | Sky2042 | humans (eg, paladins in war3) used to say "In the name of the Light" |
| 20:03.06 | Bagginsww | Church of the Light for example can be be called "church of the holy light" as well, but often called "church of the light" |
| 20:05.33 | Sky2042 | i say do it. intro should be a summary of each, and then obviously a section for each. |
| 20:05.46 | Bagginsww | ya |
| 20:05.59 | Bagginsww | we can actually break it down to a bit on scarlet crusade and argent dawn too |
| 20:06.12 | Bagginsww | which also have some differences |
| 20:08.57 | Fisker- | WE CAN DO IT CHOMPERS :O |
| 20:09.01 | Fisker- | 1% :( |
| 20:10.04 | Polarina | Everyone! Please try to contribute to Warcraft Realms! http://www.warcraftrealms.com/mostwanted.php |
| 20:10.24 | Sky2042 | Polarina: you. are. awesome. |
| 20:10.38 | Sky2042 | i once did... >. |
| 20:10.39 | Polarina | Sky2042: Thank you. |
| 20:10.40 | Sky2042 | >.> |
| 20:10.48 | Polarina | Sky2042: Go and get some more data. :) |
| 20:11.07 | Sky2042 | i probably have a higher post count there... can't. account ended in feb. |
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| 20:21.11 | Sky2042 | hmmm |
| 20:21.15 | Sky2042 | hhmmmmmm |
| 20:28.05 | Zeal | i gave my input on such an issue with kaldorei and night elf i think. but no one liked it, so meh. |
| 20:28.48 | Kirkburn | Yes, but kaldoei and night elf are not different things |
| 20:29.01 | Zeal | neither are these |
| 20:29.09 | Kirkburn | What are "these"? |
| 20:29.15 | Zeal | holy light and light |
| 20:29.35 | Kirkburn | I'm not sure of your point then |
| 20:30.00 | Sky2042 | Zeal: the paladins of the human and dwarves don't necessarily draw their powers from the Naaru, which we know the Blood elves to do. |
| 20:30.02 | Sky2042 | for one |
| 20:30.25 | Sky2042 | um |
| 20:31.00 | Zeal | decide which is going to be the main term (in this case i'd go with light) then the holy light would simply describe the it's usage and specifics before linking to light. |
| 20:31.20 | Sky2042 | or we can leave holy light on the page... |
| 20:31.33 | Sky2042 | and provide background for all of them in the same place. |
| 20:31.36 | Zeal | well that's a seperate issue if you're having an argument over if they are different things or not, which from what iread, ti was agreed they were the same. |
| 20:31.45 | Zeal | which i hate sky ;) |
| 20:31.52 | Kirkburn | I don't see that Holy Light needs a different page, as it's the Azerothian-given name for the same thing |
| 20:31.58 | Zeal | as i said, no one liekd it when i suggested it before. |
| 20:31.59 | Sky2042 | oh... you're about 10 minutes late anyway... that's why i'm all confused. |
| 20:32.08 | Zeal | lol |
| 20:32.10 | Sky2042 | xD |
| 20:33.18 | Zeal | another manga volume down, yay. |
| 20:35.02 | Zeal | Bagginsww, have you got a reply from dc btw? |
| 20:35.09 | Bagginsww | no |
| 20:35.13 | Sky2042 | ? |
| 20:35.14 | Bagginsww | but my mail is down |
| 20:35.50 | Zeal | who's mail? :S |
| 20:36.10 | Zeal | ah! my goddes manga sky / dc-comics. |
| 20:36.17 | Bagginsww | my emal :p |
| 20:36.21 | Zeal | lol, kk |
| 20:36.29 | Zeal | i sent an email today. |
| 20:37.00 | Zeal | apprently some people have got them, some people also have later been told they're not getting the first two issues.. |
| 20:37.35 | Sky2042 | Fisker-: noooooot on the carpet! |
| 20:37.42 | Bagginsww | why what the hell? |
| 20:39.14 | Bagginsww | Zeal, I can honestly say DC is worst publishing house for Warcraft, worse than Whitewolf lol |
| 20:39.24 | Zeal | haha, sounds liek it yeah. |
| 20:39.44 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: A new way to search for WoW mods - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/11/22/a-new-way-to-search-for-wow-mods/ |
| 20:39.53 | Zeal | they said in the past they talekd to dark horse, back when they first were toying with the idea, but they decided it wasn't right :s |
| 20:40.11 | Zeal | and ffs.. dark horse have pushed back amg #28 again >_< |
| 20:40.12 | Bagginsww | :p |
| 20:41.59 | Sky2042 | is it just me, or have the majority of our pov pushers been hordies?... or is that completely biased and unrepresentative? |
| 20:42.59 | Zeal | erm.. i thought it was the other way around tbh :S |
| 20:43.05 | Sky2042 | really? |
| 20:43.08 | Sky2042 | o_o |
| 20:43.23 | Bagginsww | depends on server :p |
| 20:43.39 | Sky2042 | Bagginsww: referring to wiki, not server |
| 20:43.53 | Bagginsww | oh |
| 20:43.54 | Sky2042 | beast... |
| 20:43.56 | Sky2042 | >.> |
| 20:43.58 | Sky2042 | <.< |
| 20:47.00 | Zeal | lol |
| 20:47.10 | Zeal | Fisker- Almighty! :p |
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| 21:00.02 | zeal | bbl |
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| 21:01.57 | Sky2042 | I'm feeling really "iffy" today... |
| 21:02.43 | Kirkburn | :( |
| 21:02.44 | Sky2042 | like, undecisive iffy. lol |
| 21:02.56 | Kirkburn | Still, *hug* |
| 21:03.16 | Sky2042 | hug's not gonna' cut it man! |
| 21:03.45 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: More Wrath screenshots - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/11/22/more-wrath-screenshots/ |
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| 21:15.49 | Kirkburn | lol - http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2007/11/09 |
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| 21:42.31 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Forgotten_one It it me but when a speculations section is longer than the actual lore section, perhaps the article should be split up a bit? |
| 21:43.01 | Fisker- | Chomp we can't shot morogrim :( |
| 21:43.43 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: WoW Moviewatch: Taming the elusive ghost wolf - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/11/22/wow-moviewatch-taming-the-elusive-ghost-wolf/ |
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| 22:09.29 | Kirkburn | Random question - if something has a 1/1000 chance to drop, what's the average number of kills required to get one likely to be? |
| 22:10.03 | Kirkburn | I'm trying to work out whether or not it is actually 1,000 |
| 22:18.02 | Polarina | Kirkburn: The average is always 1000 if the change is always 1/1000. |
| 22:18.29 | Polarina | Kirkburn: But note that it's "average", you might for example have to kill 24.867 of them before it drops for you. |
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| 22:36.16 | bleeter | wtg wowinsider, publicising an exploit |
| 22:36.26 | Polarina | bleeter: :) |
| 22:36.48 | Kirkburn | Polarina, ah, but I think you have to take into account player tendencies |
| 22:37.00 | bleeter | though, to be fair, I've thought for some time it'd be nice if Blizz would send out security emails to guild masters |
| 22:37.05 | Kirkburn | I do agree it's a normal distribution in ideal cicumstances |
| 22:37.24 | Kirkburn | But players will tend to stop before they reach 25,000 kills |
| 22:37.37 | Kirkburn | Thus slightly pulling the average down |
| 22:38.35 | Fisker- | noes Chomp |
| 22:38.40 | Fisker- | we almost took morogrim as well |
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| 23:29.32 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Ghost_Wolf_%28hunter_pet%29 |
| 23:31.41 | Bagginsww | umm ok I think I've lost all respect for William Shatner. That commericial is so cheesy, and a bit creepy. |
| 23:38.53 | sacarasc | you had respect for william shatner? |
| 23:40.11 | winkiller | the Mr.T one owns all commercials that were before |
| 23:41.27 | winkiller | Kirkburn: there is no likely in statistics ;) just add up 1/1000 * (999/1000 * 1/1000) ... and so on :) |
| 23:41.43 | winkiller | and then after a while you can get to 90 or 95% |
| 23:41.51 | winkiller | which still isn't 100% :P |
| 23:42.54 | Kirkburn | As I said, normal distribution |
| 23:43.18 | Kirkburn | But it's not going to be a perfect one, and it is affected by human tendencies :P |
