| 00:00.59 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: Call Of Duty 4 - http://www.wowblues.com/us/call-of-duty-4-2855963403.html |
| 00:02.02 | pcj | should've done ZA |
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| 00:07.58 | mxs | would've been the same thing :) |
| 00:08.32 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Making 2.3 install in Vista - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/11/13/making-vista-install-2-3/ |
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| 00:14.34 | winkiller | why is dumb enough to raid on a major patchday? :P |
| 00:14.37 | winkiller | *who |
| 00:14.42 | winkiller | that has NEVER worked |
| 00:15.08 | mxs | sure it has :) |
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| 00:21.03 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: Azure Whelpling? - http://www.wowblues.com/us/azure-whelpling-2856013745.html |
| 00:23.22 | Mustafah | is season 3 and the revised arena/honor point values currently inactive? |
| 00:23.41 | pcj | s3 starts in a week |
| 00:23.51 | Mustafah | next tuesday? |
| 00:24.30 | pcj | yes |
| 00:24.43 | Mustafah | wow.. thats good news! |
| 00:24.50 | Mustafah | thank you |
| 00:24.51 | pcj | concurrently with patch 2.3.1 which re-nerfs ret |
| 00:24.59 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: Hardware sound acceleration is back - http://www.wowblues.com/us/hardware-sound-acceleration-is-back-2649795333.html |
| 00:25.02 | Mustafah | i see |
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| 00:29.04 | Mustafah | pcj: does the apply to the purchasable gear and weapons? |
| 00:29.21 | pcj | all the s3 changes happen with s3 |
| 00:30.59 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: Zul' Aman is contested ... WHAT? - http://www.wowblues.com/us/zul-aman-is-contested-what-2855993883.html |
| 00:31.24 | Mustafah | ok. i read somewhere the patch would be updating itself over a 2 day period or so but that must have been bunk |
| 00:32.32 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: The Light and How To Swing It: Maximizing Paladin DPS, Part 3 - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/11/13/the-light-and-how-to-swing-it-maximizing-paladin-dps-part-3/ |
| 00:34.26 | [NewsBot] | BlizzPlanet: Blizzplanet Server Move Completed - http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=1832 |
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| 00:51.05 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: [BUG] Heroic Mech Chest - http://www.wowblues.com/us/bug-heroic-mech-chest-2856023703.html |
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| 00:57.02 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: How do you get Champion of the Naaru Title? - http://www.wowblues.com/us/how-do-you-get-champion-of-the-naaru-title-2856223880.html |
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| 01:02.57 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: Compliments to the Chef! - http://www.wowblues.com/us/compliments-to-the-chef-2855993891.html |
| 01:03.03 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: [Bug] Hrampart chest despawn b4 badge looting - http://www.wowblues.com/us/bug-hrampart-chest-despawn-b4-badge-looting-2856203776.html |
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| 01:20.56 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: [Bug] Heroic Rampart - http://www.wowblues.com/us/bug-heroic-rampart-2856223945.html |
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| 01:28.57 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: Guild banks..paying for the first tab?! - http://www.wowblues.com/us/guild-bankspaying-for-the-first-tab-2856023830.html |
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| 01:30.01 | Clark_ | Hi |
| 01:30.53 | Clark_ | Can someone help me pick a class? |
| 01:32.57 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: Nerf detect invisabilaty - http://www.wowblues.com/us/nerf-detect-invisabilaty-2856141659.html |
| 01:33.03 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: Shaman Tier 6 Bug Notice - http://www.wowblues.com/us/shaman-tier-6-bug-notice-2856203986.html |
| 01:36.11 | Clark_ | Can someone help me pick a class? |
| 01:36.57 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: @BLUE... FIX US NOW! - http://www.wowblues.com/us/blue-fix-us-now-2855993949.html |
| 01:37.03 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: Who's Stupider? - http://www.wowblues.com/us/whos-stupider-2856203971.html |
| 01:37.09 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: Shaman Tier 6 Bug Notice - http://www.wowblues.com/us/shaman-tier-6-bug-notice-2856203988.html |
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| 01:45.13 | Adys | Bagginsww: checked the ZA trailer? |
| 01:50.55 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: ?? talent glitch - http://www.wowblues.com/us/talent-glitch-2856013974.html |
| 01:52.01 | winkiller | can't find it, anyone got a list of Warcraft RPG sourcebooks |
| 01:52.14 | winkiller | I have no clue where they are sold.. so I need exact names |
| 01:52.58 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: No sound - http://www.wowblues.com/us/no-sound-2856023822.html |
| 01:53.04 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: [MAJOR BUG] Shaman Talent Point Refund - http://www.wowblues.com/us/major-bug-shaman-talent-point-refund-2856143743.html |
| 01:55.54 | winkiller | ah there |
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| 02:05.03 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: Can no longer sell certain items - http://www.wowblues.com/us/can-no-longer-sell-certain-items-2855994059.html |
| 02:08.57 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: [BUG] Unable to sell to Vendors. - http://www.wowblues.com/us/bug-unable-to-sell-to-vendors-2856014017.html |
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| 03:32.57 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: Realm Restart - Gul'dan - 11/13/07 - http://www.wowblues.com/us/realm-restart-guldan-111307-2856024018.html |
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| 03:46.58 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: GOD ##%@ING DAMNIT - http://www.wowblues.com/us/god-ing-damnit-2855964242.html |
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| 03:48.58 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: @Timbal - http://www.wowblues.com/us/timbal-2855994317.html |
| 03:49.03 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: PATCH 2.3 NO WORK ON WINDOWS XP - http://www.wowblues.com/us/patch-23-no-work-on-windows-xp-2856224244.html |
| 03:52.33 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: The end of the (patch) day - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/11/13/the-end-of-the-patch-day/ |
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| 03:57.01 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: Blizzard you Cowards! Re: Hi Timbal - http://www.wowblues.com/us/blizzard-you-cowards-re-hi-timbal-2856014114.html |
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| 04:13.01 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: Website and Server Maintenance on 11/14 - http://www.wowblues.com/us/website-and-server-maintenance-on-1114-2856224331.html |
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| 04:18.13 | Bagginsww | za? |
| 04:18.59 | Zeal | zul'aman |
| 04:19.08 | Bagginsww | oh no |
| 04:19.16 | Bagginsww | will when I get the chance |
| 04:20.29 | Zeal | i haven't either yet |
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| 04:32.33 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Pleasant patch surprises - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/11/13/pleasant-patch-surprises/ |
| 04:34.24 | [NewsBot] | BlizzPlanet: Starcraft II - Batch 21 - http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=1833 |
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| 04:42.29 | Bagginsww | With the release of Patch 2.3 and Zul'Aman Zul'jin's tale of what happened to him after the end of the Second War has become clear. While battling the elves after the main Horde had left to attack the Capital City Zul'jin was captured by the elves and tortured so much so he lost his right eye. However when his capturers were attacked by a troll war party, Zul'jin took the opportunity and cut off his own arm to break free. He then |
| 04:42.30 | Bagginsww | made his way back to Zul'Aman where he began to rebiuld his armies. He had planned to attack the Blood Elves soon only to find they had allied with the Horde, which he considered the final betrayal of his people. Now Zul'jin seems intent on destroying the elves and the whole Horde if needed, which can be summed up in a quote he says in the trailer for patch 2.3: |
| 04:42.38 | Bagginsww | his arm should have long grown back LOL |
| 04:42.49 | Bagginsww | as stated on the official site their limbs grow back :p |
| 04:43.05 | Bagginsww | mind you I don't think that kind of regenerative ability was ever established int he rpg however. |
| 04:52.27 | Bagginsww | personally I think them removing his arm is stupid |
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| 05:06.12 | Zeal | ffs, xsl variables are far too local. : / |
| 05:10.53 | Zeal | i thought the rpg did say they could regen :s |
| 05:11.24 | Zeal | what about the zombie stuff? thougt he was an mc'd zombie or something |
| 05:12.20 | Zeal | using the elves as his reasoning isn't too bad though, decent lore expansion there. |
| 05:18.38 | kd3 | we need to add this NPC to the wiki... |
| 05:18.39 | kd3 | http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=24324 |
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| 05:27.13 | Zeal | O_o |
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| 05:32.58 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: Timbal you said post constructively... - http://www.wowblues.com/us/timbal-you-said-post-constructively-2855994482.html |
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| 05:54.29 | [NewsBot] | BlizzPlanet: Patch 2.3 Released - The Gods of Zul'Aman - http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=1835 |
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| 06:42.43 | Zeal | trying to do logic in xsl is nasty x_x |
| 06:52.44 | Zeal | "iTunes can not run because soem require files are missing. Please reinstall iTunes" |
| 06:52.50 | Zeal | gf'ingg |
| 06:56.15 | FlAWD | don't use itunes |
| 06:56.16 | FlAWD | gg |
| 06:56.42 | FlAWD | itunes sucks anyway .. there's many good alternatives |
| 06:58.11 | FlAWD | http://www.simplehelp.net/2007/07/07/how-to-use-winamp-to-manage-your-ipod/ |
| 06:58.23 | Zeal | i use itunes out of choice thanks |
| 06:58.26 | FlAWD | http://www.simplehelp.net/2007/07/08/10-alternatives-to-itunes-for-managing-your-ipod/ |
| 06:58.28 | FlAWD | oh |
| 06:58.30 | FlAWD | i'm sorry |
| 06:58.42 | Zeal | and i have winamp installed, i just don't use it much anymore : / |
| 06:59.25 | FlAWD | itunes is an ok player .. if it didn't eat like 200mb ram and require quicktime and other apple crap ... IMO |
| 06:59.25 | FlAWD | :) |
| 06:59.27 | Zeal | anyways, from a quick google, seems it's actually an issue with the quicktime and the latest itunes throwing a paddy. |
| 06:59.34 | Zeal | yeah |
| 06:59.49 | Zeal | well i've discovered i can't use cover-flow on a dual screen, it lags me to hell |
| 06:59.54 | FlAWD | heh |
| 07:00.16 | FlAWD | i use floola .. i don't have an ipod .. but my gf does .. when she wants something floola is awesome |
| 07:00.29 | FlAWD | standalone exe file .. lets me put songs onto the pod and take them off .. all i need |
| 07:01.22 | Zeal | well i like getting my podcasts off itunes, and prefer the interface in terms of information displayed etc. |
| 07:01.39 | FlAWD | you can even put the exe directly on the ipod so you can get music off from anywhere! :D |
| 07:02.00 | Zeal | hehe |
| 07:02.40 | FlAWD | anywho .. good luck with your itunes thing .. i'm going to bed |
| 07:02.46 | Zeal | nn |
| 07:02.48 | Zeal | ty |
| 07:04.02 | Zeal | hm.. oh well, jsut run a repair on itunes, working fine now. |
| 07:05.00 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: Warlocks take zero skill, and are OP - http://www.wowblues.com/us/warlocks-take-zero-skill-and-are-op-2856202215.html |
| 07:06.15 | Zeal | bugger me, my podcasts are taking up 52.14GB |
| 07:09.00 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: DPS BUFF FOR HEALERS IS GAME BREAKING (PVP) - http://www.wowblues.com/us/dps-buff-for-healers-is-game-breaking-pvp-2856224593.html |
| 07:10.12 | Zeal | haha, i get like 1fps with the visualizer on my second screen. |
| 07:14.27 | [NewsBot] | BlizzPlanet: Shaman Tier 6 Bug - Alert !!! - http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=1836 |
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| 07:30.55 | Paradox | heeeeeeeeey |
| 07:30.59 | Paradox | wait one god-darn pickin' minute! |
| 07:31.04 | Paradox | I thought trolls could regenerate limbs, what's with zul'jin being one armed? |
| 07:37.00 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: **Hi Timbal** (Subject Edited) - http://www.wowblues.com/us/hi-timbal-subject-edited-2856014114.html |
| 07:39.53 | Fisker- | :( |
| 07:40.05 | Fisker- | GRUNT: state: LOGIN_STATE_FAILED result: LOGIN_BADVERSION |
| 07:40.34 | Zeal | interestings, outputing as UTF-8 corrupts all the existing UFT-8 codes, outputting at UTF-16 maintains them. fail ms xml parser? |
| 07:45.53 | Fisker- | it's microsoft |
| 07:45.54 | Fisker- | it CANT FAIL |
| 07:47.08 | Zeal | i jsut don't get how it can take a UTF-8 encoded xml file, transform it, and output as UTF-8 with screwed up characters. yet it's fine doing UTF-8 and leaving it on it's default output of UTF-16 |
| 07:47.39 | Fisker- | could it be that they are double byte characters? |
| 07:48.34 | Zeal | doesn't mean much to me. they're written in UTF-8, they displayed fine in UTF-8. ms does it's interal work as UTF-16, so i suspect it's an issue with switch back to UTF-8. |
| 07:50.14 | Fisker- | We will also be performing a brief maintenance on all realms to apply new software updates beginning Wednesday, November 14 at 9:00 AM PST, until approximately 11:00 AM PST. |
| 07:50.16 | Fisker- | hmm :o |
| 07:50.19 | Fisker- | i wonder what this is |
| 07:51.09 | Zeal | :S |
| 07:52.48 | Zeal | bah, now ie is failing at margins.. |
| 07:53.17 | Fisker- | i won't hear it |
| 07:53.18 | Fisker- | LALALA |
| 07:53.22 | Zeal | think it's because i'm using xhtml 1.1, which requires an xml header, so it goes into "quirks" mode. |
| 07:53.27 | Fisker- | IE > you |
| 07:54.19 | Zeal | i usually let a php file sort out headers depending on the browser. 1.1 for non-ie and 1.0 strict for ie. |
| 07:54.46 | Zeal | will have to sort that out later i guess. |
| 07:55.57 | Zeal | yeah it is *sigh* |
| 07:56.37 | Fisker- | you're lying! |
| 07:57.14 | Fisker- | btw |Pixel| patch up yet? |
| 07:59.51 | Zeal | lol |
| 08:02.17 | Zeal | hm.. well ff doesn't allow dsiabling out escaping, but no biggy really. |
| 08:02.32 | Zeal | for soem odd reason though, it's not doing the chapter list correctl :s |
| 08:02.35 | Zeal | *correctly |
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| 08:20.25 | Zeal | i really don't get you ff.. |
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| 08:24.01 | Zeal | why the hell is firefox being crap.. |
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| 08:25.55 | Zeal | anyone know if firefox has a bug with nesting too many lists? :S |
| 08:26.16 | Fisker- | try teh bugzilla |
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| 08:26.49 | Zeal | hm.. actually it can't be the depth that's the issue, extras's have the same depth and they are displaying fine. |
| 08:26.51 | Zeal | ffs. |
| 08:26.59 | Zeal | the dom inspector shows it all fine |
| 08:27.08 | Zeal | but css jsut can't target them, has no effect. |
| 08:27.25 | Zeal | and they're dispalying as an inline list, for no reason. |
| 08:28.16 | Zeal | oh, wait, i think i might know why. |
| 08:29.18 | Zeal | nope, that's not it. thought i may have forgotten the ul element. |
| 08:31.00 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: Realm Maintenance - 11/14/2007 - http://www.wowblues.com/us/realm-maintenance-11142007-2856024576.html |
| 08:31.01 | Zeal | can target the ul element, but not the problematic li elements. |
| 08:31.55 | Zeal | oh wait, .chapters ul li {border: 1px #f00 solid;} worked, and they've now suddenly changed to display as blocks.. |
| 08:33.09 | Zeal | crap! i was looking in ie, lol. |
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| 08:36.10 | Zeal | ok, managed to select it now for some odd reason. i know it's not my css file, so basically firefox is being utterly 'tarded and i'll have to undo what it's doing. |
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| 08:37.10 | |Pixel| | Fisker-: dunno, and I shitty don't care |
| 08:37.27 | Zeal | this is why i don't use firefox.. it's still so young in comparison and it's bugs are far too obscure.. |
| 08:40.56 | Zeal | crap, i can't seem to get the bullets to return, wtf has this stupid browser done.. |
| 08:41.37 | Zeal | it's also not respecting line breaks.. |
| 08:41.40 | Zeal | screw it |
| 08:41.47 | Zeal | don't care about firefox now. |
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| 09:20.22 | Michelle_ | hello |
| 09:20.51 | Michelle_ | is there a way to link an item to a text macro |
| 09:21.42 | Michelle_ | waht i want to do is add to my portal macro alink to the brewfest brew in a sentence liek thsi, <<portal to shattrach city, careful though i have a few [Brewfest Brew]'s>> |
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| 09:47.51 | Zeal | don't beleive you can like items via a macro Michelle_, would probably need to write a script to handle that. i could be wrong though. |
| 09:48.11 | Michelle_ | woudl it bepssable to link an ITEMID |
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| 10:20.10 | Kirkburn|sleep | Morning |
| 10:21.20 | Kalroth | Morning sunshine |
| 10:26.12 | Zeal | morning |
| 10:28.40 | Fisker- | sunshine? :) |
| 10:29.28 | Kalroth | Yeah, Kirkburn is my little ray of sunshine! |
| 10:29.33 | Kirkburn|sleep | :) |
| 10:30.07 | Fisker- | WIN |
| 10:30.09 | Fisker- | WIIIIIIIIIIIN |
| 10:30.12 | Fisker- | got 740 spell damage |
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| 10:32.51 | Voluspa | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDH6OHz7_nU Hehe |
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| 10:41.40 | Kirkburn|sleep | Time to log in :) |
| 10:44.52 | Zeal | don't do it! |
| 10:45.36 | Kalroth | Stay with us, Kirky! |
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| 11:00.07 | Kirkburn|sleep | Oooh, I like how they're hugely increased the ground clutter radius |
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| 11:03.05 | Zeal | hm? |
| 11:11.40 | Kirkburn|sleep | Zeal, grass, etc |
| 11:12.08 | Kirkburn|sleep | Previously the range on it was pretty low .. no longer, there's a slider to choose the radius :) |
| 11:12.25 | Zeal | ah, funky |
| 11:13.03 | Kirkburn|sleep | The patch has also hugely cut my framerates though, which is odd |
| 11:13.34 | Kirkburn|sleep | From 75 (maxed) to about 40 |
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| 11:20.29 | Zeal | : s |
| 11:20.59 | Zeal | was this the same patch that was adding mroe support for dual core? |
| 11:21.03 | Zeal | lol |
| 11:21.52 | Kirkburn|sleep | It might be that I didn't notice the FPS in Shattrath before |
| 11:22.13 | Zeal | :p |
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| 11:34.39 | Zeal | hm.. ie'd turn to be weird. if a blockquote is larger than 69.2% of the window, it adds spacing for no reason on the right causing h-scroll bars gg |
| 11:34.48 | Zeal | *ie's |
| 11:35.17 | Zeal | oh, when it contains floats that is |
| 11:38.47 | Fisker- | :O btw |
| 11:38.58 | Fisker- | a GM contacted me when i made a ticket |
| 11:39.19 | Kalroth | "STOP MAKING CRAPPY TICKETS!" |
| 11:40.03 | Zeal | haha |
| 11:40.42 | Zeal | ok, correction, when a <cite> is floated inside a <blockquote> ie becomes an r-tard |
| 11:40.53 | Fisker- | no Kalroth |
| 11:41.04 | Fisker- | he/she said he/she knew me from the forums :O |
| 11:41.20 | Zeal | probably because it's never supposed to contain a cite, but still, there' no reason for it to now do things correctly : / |
| 11:47.43 | Kirkburn|sleep | Zeal, I can only assume you are referred to the css code of cite and blockquote, seeing as since when are those true entities? |
| 11:48.26 | Fisker- | btw Kirkburn|sleep |
| 11:48.34 | Fisker- | i added 2 days reset to http://www.wowwiki.com/Zul%27Aman |
| 11:48.40 | Fisker- | but the GM himself wasn't 100% sure |
| 11:49.05 | Fisker- | but it seems to confirm what i was hearing on the US forums earlier |
| 11:49.28 | Kirkburn|sleep | Cool |
| 11:53.07 | Zeal | er.. they've always been real html tags Kirkburn|sleep |
| 11:53.29 | Kirkburn|sleep | Really? News to me :) |
| 11:53.36 | Zeal | lol |
| 11:54.29 | Zeal | <q> for inline quotes, <blockquote cite=""> for block quotes, <cite> for citations. |
| 11:54.37 | Kirkburn|sleep | ah, "The following elements are all phrase elements. They are not deprecated, but it is possible to achieve a much richer effect using style sheets." |
| 11:54.45 | Kalroth | Silly Kirk! |
| 11:54.49 | Zeal | wtb an inline float.. |
| 11:55.09 | Kirkburn|sleep | Just use normal code, there's no need to resort to weird outdated tags |
| 11:55.43 | Zeal | i'm trying to achieve the effect of having a quote, and the cite that will always be on the far right of the quote's last line, or below if it can't fit on the current line. |
| 11:55.47 | winkiller | screw semantics |
| 11:55.51 | Zeal | they're not outdated |
| 11:56.19 | Kirkburn|sleep | :P |
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| 11:56.54 | Zeal | they're semantically correct tags. you can use <div class="quote"> and <span class="quote"> if you wanted, but why would you? like saying to sotp using <i/b/u> etc. |
| 11:57.13 | Kirkburn|sleep | That was a silly thing to say Zeal |
| 11:57.17 | winkiller | who uses i/b/u anymore? |
| 11:57.17 | Zeal | oh? |
| 11:57.21 | Kirkburn|sleep | <b> should be <strong> |
| 11:57.22 | Zeal | everyone? |
| 11:57.39 | winkiller | I didn't see usage of i/b/u for years |
| 11:57.40 | Zeal | why? |
| 11:57.42 | winkiller | in production code |
| 11:57.55 | winkiller | deprecated in xhtml |
| 11:58.02 | winkiller | simple as that |
| 11:58.03 | Kirkburn|sleep | Because they're the sematically correct version :P |
| 11:58.05 | Zeal | <strong> is as ambiguous as <b> |
| 11:58.12 | Zeal | it's not more semantically correct |
| 11:58.16 | winkiller | b is not semantically |
| 11:58.33 | winkiller | it's like <center> |
| 11:58.37 | Zeal | such a thing can't be soem semantically. |
| 11:59.18 | Zeal | <span class="thisprobablyneedsastyle"> is the cloest thing you could get, lol. |
| 11:59.39 | Kirkburn|sleep | <i> becomes <em> |
| 11:59.49 | Zeal | why? |
| 11:59.57 | Zeal | exzactly the same argument. |
| 12:00.04 | Zeal | *exactly |
| 12:00.07 | Kirkburn|sleep | And I just noticed <cite> is in the same boat as strong and em |
| 12:00.12 | Kirkburn|sleep | http://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_phrase_elements.asp |
| 12:00.50 | Zeal | yeah, shame cite is probably one the least used tag you will see, as there's better ways to do it. |
| 12:00.56 | Zeal | *one of the. |
| 12:01.37 | Kirkburn|sleep | A better explanation: "The <strong> and <em> tags are "logical" tags. This means that they are used deliberately when the designer wants to add emphasis to particular words or phrases. Some screen readers may use a different inflection when they come across these tags to communicate the emphasis. The <b> and <i> tags are primarily for visual effect on a page when designing layout." |
| 12:01.42 | Kirkburn|sleep | Via http://www.think-ink.net/html/bold.htm |
| 12:02.38 | winkiller | =semantics |
| 12:02.41 | Zeal | which is bs, as <strong> and <b> are the same desired effect. i probably don't want <strong> to ever be shown as anything else. |
| 12:02.51 | Kirkburn|sleep | *rolleyes* |
| 12:02.59 | winkiller | you are mixing up layout and semantics, Zeal |
| 12:03.02 | Zeal | so the very fact a different reader may see it differently, is why it shouldn't be used. |
| 12:03.05 | Kirkburn|sleep | It's a matter of intention |
| 12:03.08 | Zeal | no. |
| 12:03.12 | winkiller | it's not about it being shown BOLD, but IMPORTANT |
| 12:03.24 | winkiller | if you want bold, it's style="font-weight:bold" |
| 12:03.25 | Zeal | as it's a hard-coded intent of what it shoudl reflect. |
| 12:03.56 | Zeal | splitting off of presentation is all well and good, but there is never a need to split off want you want to enforce. |
| 12:04.00 | winkiller | html is way too lenient - but ok, that's the reason it got so popular |
| 12:04.01 | Zeal | *off |
| 12:05.37 | Zeal | anyways.. back to what i was saying. there's no way to acheive the effect i'm after as far as i can tell, which is actually a fairly common pratice in publication. |
| 12:05.52 | Zeal | stupid w3c : / |
| 12:09.20 | winkiller | lol |
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| 12:16.14 | Zeal | hm.. closest i can get is pretty messy, and ie isn't handling the floats correctly : / |
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| 12:34.34 | Aphelian | hello all |
| 12:35.58 | Kirkburn|sleep | lo |
| 12:36.43 | Kirkburn|sleep | To all: I'm off to my sister's wedding for the rest of this week, so I likely won't be around |
| 12:37.29 | Zeal | wedding is lasting that long? :s |
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| 12:44.23 | Kirkburn|sleep | Zeal, wedding is on sat |
| 12:44.54 | Kirkburn|sleep | The actual ceremony will be about 20 mins :P |
| 12:44.55 | Zeal | yeah, so i assume you're just going there early then because of travel? :S |
| 12:45.12 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: New realms - http://www.wowblues.com/eu/new-realms-1634023477.html |
| 12:46.44 | Zeal | weird.. i can't seem to overide the font-size for <small># |
| 12:46.57 | Kirkburn|sleep | About 4 hour train ride, plus well, need thursday and friday to get ready and help out |
| 12:50.06 | Zeal | ah, makes sense :p |
| 12:50.41 | Zeal | i swear it's like ff has forgoted what html is in places.. |
| 12:50.48 | Zeal | *forggoten. |
| 12:50.57 | Fisker- | yay Kirkburn|sleep |
| 12:51.02 | Fisker- | they updated the EU scam policy |
| 12:51.16 | Kirkburn|sleep | how so? |
| 12:51.27 | Fisker- | it's now comparable to the US one |
| 12:51.37 | Fisker- | real punishments + they will try to return scammed mats |
| 12:52.16 | Zeal | the <li>'s for the chapters are displaying inline without list style types (which i can't restore, so i'm screwed), <p>'s and <blockquotes> i had to actually set to display:block because firefox has seemingly forgotten they are block level elements :S |
| 12:52.30 | Zeal | and now it also seems to have forgotten what a float is.. |
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| 13:03.03 | foxlit | Someone go whine loudly on the forums about armory sync with updated items Æ= |
| 13:03.30 | foxlit | Sometimes I hate the ability to switch keyboard layouts. |
| 13:04.03 | FlAWD | have you seen that optomus keyboard? |
| 13:05.03 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Breakfast topic: Where everybody knows your name - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/11/14/breakfast-topic-where-everybody-knows-your-name/ |
| 13:05.03 | FlAWD | http://www.artlebedev.com/everything/optimus/ .. each key has it's own LED |
| 13:05.25 | FlAWD | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTrUu4rHwj4 |
| 13:05.28 | FlAWD | very cool. |
| 13:05.55 | FlAWD | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypXAJKF73FA |
| 13:05.57 | FlAWD | work time! cya |
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| 13:09.58 | Zeal | hm, ie seems to apply it's own relative sizing scale outside the bounds of css to sup and sub. : / |
| 13:10.33 | Zeal | seems to about about a 20% reduction in size. |
| 13:13.13 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: In a Flash - Character Creation Made Easy! - http://www.wowblues.com/eu/in-a-flash-character-creation-made-easy-1571217510.html |
| 13:15.53 | Zeal | http://www.zealvurte.co.uk/manga/xml/omg.xml done for now. off out, bbl. (things to note, the chapter list is not displaying as list in ff and ff is not floating the quotes in blockquotes left. so you're better off viewing it in ie, hopefully it's actualy an xslt processor problem of firefox, which i can avoid when i do it server-side instead.) |
| 13:15.57 | foxlit | FlAWD: While you're gone... having leds on keys won't actually help |
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| 13:16.25 | foxlit | I type blindly with either layout, it's just that sometimes you end up in a different one than you expect. |
| 13:16.27 | Zeal | yeah, you need mini :CDs ;) |
| 13:16.35 | Zeal | *LCDs |
| 13:16.40 | Kirkburn|sleep | foxlit, it's good for touch-typers |
| 13:16.45 | Kirkburn|sleep | For non- >_< |
| 13:17.23 | Kirkburn|sleep | Wait, I think people are getting confused |
| 13:17.24 | Zeal | most of the time i don't touch type, but i actually type better if do >_>; |
| 13:17.30 | Zeal | weird |
| 13:17.33 | Zeal | anyways, gone. |
| 13:17.34 | Kirkburn|sleep | The Optimus has little displays on each key |
| 13:17.43 | Kirkburn|sleep | Not just an LED |
| 13:17.46 | Kirkburn|sleep | See ya Zeal |
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| 13:18.01 | zeal | yeah, that's the one i meant ;) and lol in before the notify. |
| 13:18.18 | Kirkburn|sleep | My G15 is awesome, love having backlit keys |
| 13:18.34 | foxlit | Kirkburn: doesn't actually matter to the argument; someone brought up LEDs before |
| 13:18.56 | Kirkburn|sleep | "<FlAWD> http://www.artlebedev.com/everything/optimus/ .. each key has it's own LED" <-- that wasn't supposed to say LED |
| 13:18.59 | foxlit | Mac keyboards <3 |
| 13:19.12 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: Funny stuff - http://www.wowblues.com/eu/funny-stuff-1610131425.html |
| 13:19.16 | foxlit | > G15, even |
| 13:19.56 | Kirkburn|sleep | Aesthetically, fair enough, but not in function |
| 13:20.57 | foxlit | LCD display is just plain junk, backlight is implemented better |
| 13:20.58 | foxlit | :) |
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| 13:23.50 | Kirkburn|sleep | foxlit, the G15 is backlit, and has a separate LCD display |
| 13:24.23 | foxlit | Like the mac backlight better, and have no use for the LCD display |
| 13:26.17 | dreamss | only thing those g15 kb are for is AFK farming |
| 13:26.17 | dreamss | heh |
| 13:26.32 | Kirkburn|sleep | In WoW it gives you loads of info, outside: CPU (per core) and RAM readings, clock/time, media player status, email notifications |
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| 13:26.56 | Kirkburn|sleep | I don't even use the macros |
| 13:27.17 | foxlit | There's a billion and one places that already display a clock. |
| 13:27.39 | foxlit | CPU/RAM usage isn't even remotely needed :) |
| 13:27.58 | foxlit | media player status can be read off the media player or Growl-style notifications |
| 13:28.17 | Kirkburn|sleep | Full-screen programs don't show such info |
| 13:28.35 | dreamss | the who is talking in vent thing |
| 13:28.38 | dreamss | is usefull |
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| 13:29.33 | foxlit | What do we mean by full screen programs? :) |
| 13:29.50 | Kirkburn|sleep | Games, mainly |
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| 13:34.13 | foxlit | Wouldn't games attempt to push their own data onto the LCD? |
| 13:47.12 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: WoW 2.3 Changes - Concise List - http://www.wowblues.com/us/wow-23-changes-concise-list-879058320.html |
| 13:50.20 | Kirkburn|sleep | foxlit, you can switch between functions |
| 13:50.38 | Kirkburn|sleep | Off I go! See you all .... soon. :) |
| 13:51.08 | Kirkburn | Now to deal with the ~seen thingy |
| 13:51.33 | Kirkburn | Kirkburn is at a wedding :) |
| 13:53.38 | zeal | haha |
| 13:54.07 | foxlit | Wonder if infobot checks for identity when saving that |
| 13:54.18 | foxlit|abusive | meh |
| 13:54.20 | Zeal | ~seen Kirkburn |
| 13:54.50 | infobot | kirkburn <n=Kirkburn@82-32-40-219.cable.ubr06.azte.blueyonder.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowwiki, 3m 17s ago, saying: 'Kirkburn is at a wedding :)'. |
| 13:54.50 | foxlit | ~seen foxlit|abusive |
| 13:54.51 | infobot | foxlit|abusive <n=foxlit@130.225.73.202> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowwiki, 33s ago, saying: 'meh'. |
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| 13:54.52 | Zeal | :S |
| 13:55.00 | Zeal | infobot laggy :o |
| 13:55.40 | Zeal | hm.. wikipedia doesnt have an article about Goujons |
| 13:58.47 | Zeal | who wants to go out when you can order pizza to your door and watch pay per view? :p |
| 13:59.46 | Zeal | "The "Sound at Character" option has been removed from sound settings. It is on by default now. |
| 14:00.03 | Zeal | wonder if that ^ means they've fixed the sound position issues.. |
| 14:00.37 | Zeal | "Void Reaver now "lobs" his orbs instead of shooting them in a straight line. Makes them a tad harder to see" <-- fun! lol |
| 14:01.34 | Zeal | "It seems that it is no longer possible for a Hunter to have Freezing trap applied to 2 or more targets at the same time." <-- erm. wtf.. guess that's gunna hit survival hardest with being able to trap 3 targets at a time. |
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| 14:02.06 | Zeal | "Dead zone has been removed. Hunters range is now 5-35 (41 with talents) yards." <-- and that's just lol. |
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| 14:03.08 | Zizanzu | How many here have Read Sunwell Triology? |
| 14:03.53 | dreamss | why? |
| 14:04.02 | Zizanzu | I'm making statistic... |
| 14:04.24 | dreamss | tbh, i only bought 1 book so far |
| 14:04.34 | dreamss | cause i wasent able to track down the pdf.. : |
| 14:04.41 | Zizanzu | aha |
| 14:04.50 | Zeal | read it, own it. |
| 14:04.57 | Zizanzu | havent blizzard releeased an online flash version of it? |
| 14:05.00 | Zeal | and i can vouch for Bagginsww |
| 14:05.01 | dreamss | last guardian, seemed cool to read |
| 14:05.08 | Zizanzu | yeah |
| 14:05.50 | Zeal | last guardian is probably one of the best |
| 14:06.10 | dreamss | one thing i got from that, his dad wasent trapped on the library yet |
| 14:06.17 | Zeal | lord of the clans would be the onyl one to share that title for me. |
| 14:06.44 | dreamss | lord of the clans is about the orc corruption? |
| 14:07.20 | Zeal | nope, it's about thrall's story. |
| 14:07.54 | Zeal | him beign raised by humans, freeing the orcs. |
| 14:07.58 | Zeal | etc. |
| 14:08.02 | dreamss | ahh |
| 14:08.24 | Zeal | rise of the horde is the one you're thinking of :P |
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| 14:16.48 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Where did you get your WoW name? - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/11/14/where-did-you-get-your-wow-name/ |
| 14:21.12 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: 14/11 Free character migration - http://www.wowblues.com/eu/1411-free-character-migration-1640444034.html |
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| 14:53.16 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: WHATS GOING ON WORLD SERVER DOWN TWICE - http://www.wowblues.com/eu/whats-going-on-world-server-down-twice-1610521055.html |
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| 14:57.13 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: The solution! - http://www.wowblues.com/eu/the-solution-1610311277.html |
| 15:12.56 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Around Azeroth: New and improved Shatterspear Village - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/11/14/around-azeroth-new-and-improved-shatterspear-village/ |
| 15:13.22 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: Improve the attitute - http://www.wowblues.com/eu/improve-the-attitute-1609941283.html |
| 15:36.56 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Free Tier 6 with purchase of shaman! - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/11/14/free-tier-6-with-purchase-of-shaman/ |
| 15:47.21 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: Why u.s forums is better.. - http://www.wowblues.com/eu/why-us-forums-is-better-1641224142.html |
| 15:53.22 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: THE Hemo Thread - http://www.wowblues.com/eu/the-hemo-thread-1610571206.html |
| 16:03.22 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: Haha ret noos - http://www.wowblues.com/eu/haha-ret-noos-1641224134.html |
| 16:05.22 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: Windforce! - http://www.wowblues.com/eu/windforce-1610701499.html |
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| 16:13.22 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: [Warlock] Vote for Trainable DemonicSacrifice - http://www.wowblues.com/eu/warlock-vote-for-trainable-demonicsacrifice-1610311395.html |
| 16:15.22 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: Hunter is the new Warlock! - http://www.wowblues.com/eu/hunter-is-the-new-warlock-1640234071.html |
| 16:19.22 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: Hey guys - http://www.wowblues.com/eu/hey-guys-1609941395.html |
| 16:29.33 | Zeal | nn all |
| 16:31.25 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: LFG (Heroic) Umgheist - http://www.wowblues.com/eu/lfg-heroic-umgheist-1381048898.html |
| 16:33.22 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: Epic Flying Machine Club - http://www.wowblues.com/us/epic-flying-machine-club-2856204919.html |
| 16:37.22 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: In the upcoming patch, go for this build! - http://www.wowblues.com/eu/in-the-upcoming-patch-go-for-this-build-1610311448.html |
| 16:41.22 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: New GCD, post disagreements here. - http://www.wowblues.com/us/new-gcd-post-disagreements-here-2856225038.html |
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| 16:44.38 | pcj | and now they're taking the servers down for maintenance |
| 16:45.22 | dreamss | clearing all those t6 |
| 16:49.22 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: All those in favour! - http://www.wowblues.com/eu/all-those-in-favour-1640594102.html |
| 16:57.20 | Lukian | how do you mark something for reference requested? |
| 17:01.22 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: Maint in the middle of the day for EST? - http://www.wowblues.com/us/maint-in-the-middle-of-the-day-for-est-2855995112.html |
| 17:01.28 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: Zomg new music - http://www.wowblues.com/us/zomg-new-music-2855965099.html |
| 17:01.52 | pcj | lukian: {{fact}} |
| 17:03.18 | Lukian | Update for 2.1.0 - Downranking Windfury on the off-hand no longer has this effect, both weapons always share the 3 second cooldown (see Patches and Hotfixes). |
| 17:03.24 | Lukian | oops mispaste |
| 17:07.22 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: Season 3 Delay - http://www.wowblues.com/eu/season-3-delay-1640594178.html |
| 17:12.46 | pcj | yay s3 delayed 1 week |
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| 17:15.17 | hurax | so now we have a flightpath from silvermoon south across servers, is there one for exodar too? |
| 17:15.23 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: Bizzard knows something I don't - http://www.wowblues.com/us/bizzard-knows-something-i-dont-2856225118.html |
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| 17:16.49 | Arcane_NH | anyone else get fatagued on the boat from the tree to darkshore? |
| 17:17.38 | Lukian | haha serious? |
| 17:17.42 | Lukian | that sounds like fun |
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| 17:18.03 | Arcane_NH | nearly killed me, got off the boat just in time |
| 17:18.29 | Arcane_NH | started when I went to the upper deck, didn't stop until I got off the boat |
| 17:18.31 | hurax | ouch |
| 17:18.40 | hurax | new patch appears to be buggy |
| 17:18.42 | Arcane_NH | almost had to jump overboard |
| 17:18.54 | Arcane_NH | I figured that would happen |
| 17:19.03 | hurax | i got feared in arathi basin, defending the lumber mill |
| 17:19.23 | hurax | and fell out of the map, hat to desert to get out |
| 17:19.32 | Arcane_NH | :( |
| 17:19.37 | Arcane_NH | did you take a screen shot? |
| 17:20.10 | hurax | no... but that isn't scenic, you just see grey sky |
| 17:20.53 | hurax | used to happen in sethekk halls sometimes too when the mobs fear you |
| 17:22.14 | pcj | it happened to me once in shadow labyrinth |
| 17:22.27 | pcj | first boss feared, dropped off the world, group wiped |
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| 17:24.29 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Zul%27jin |
| 17:25.00 | Bagginsww | btw has anyone taken the time to break down the areas visited in the zul'aman instance? |
| 17:25.24 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: Season 3 Delay - http://www.wowblues.com/us/season-3-delay-2856015159.html |
| 17:29.24 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: Season 3 Delay - http://www.wowblues.com/us/season-3-delay-2856015181.html |
| 17:36.57 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Guild divas: There can only be one - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/11/14/guild-divas-there-can-only-be-one/ |
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| 18:01.41 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: /cancelform woes... and questions. - http://www.wowblues.com/us/cancelform-woes-and-questions-2856225143.html |
| 18:09.13 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Undocumented Patch 2.3 changes and bugs - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/11/14/undocumented-patch-2-3-changes-and-bugs/ |
| 18:14.07 | Bagginsww | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:14.09 | Bagginsww | ;) |
| 18:14.14 | Bagginsww | until they fix the bug |
| 18:15.06 | pcj | shaman gear bug is the funniest imo |
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| 18:17.09 | rhon | hi |
| 18:17.13 | pcj | hi |
| 18:17.39 | rhon | can i ask something |
| 18:18.10 | pcj | you just did |
| 18:18.27 | rhon | :) |
| 18:18.49 | rhon | at the webside it mentions to change the size of status bar text |
| 18:19.47 | rhon | but which file contains the text size i couldnt figure it out |
| 18:20.00 | rhon | any idea? |
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| 18:20.18 | pcj | what website |
| 18:20.30 | rhon | wowwiki |
| 18:22.13 | rhon | is it possible to increase the size of status bar text in wow |
| 18:28.00 | pcj | oh |
| 18:33.14 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Arena Season 3 delayed - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/11/14/arena-season-3-delayed/ |
| 18:39.40 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: Free t6-->300 void crystals addressed? - http://www.wowblues.com/us/free-t6gt300-void-crystals-addressed-2856205315.html |
| 18:43.40 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: Hunter traps - http://www.wowblues.com/us/hunter-traps-2856225182.html |
| 18:49.22 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: The farming scoop on 2.3 recipes - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/11/14/the-farming-scoop-on-2-3-recipes/ |
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| 18:58.02 | Kirochi | Baggins |
| 18:58.06 | Kirochi | tonight you dine in hell |
| 19:00.54 | pcj | whoa |
| 19:01.00 | pcj | how'd you get those reservations |
| 19:08.25 | pcj | *giggle* http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Jamvaru |
| 19:09.07 | Bagginsww | Hmm, in hell you say/ |
| 19:11.54 | Bagginsww | honestly jamvaru is an odd one |
| 19:13.22 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Official Zul'Aman trailer - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/11/14/official-zulaman-trailer/ |
| 19:14.15 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Jamvaru |
| 19:15.08 | Bagginsww | and in violations we would have to say, "He asked us to ban him" |
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| 19:17.41 | pcj | realms starting to come back up |
| 19:18.29 | Bagginsww | I found something odd it seems that that description for history behind zul'aman also ignores a bit established in the Tides of Darkness novel |
| 19:18.49 | Bagginsww | He only agreed to join the Horde's ranks when the orcs proved their worth by rescuing a group of trolls shortly before the Second War began. |
| 19:19.02 | Bagginsww | umm he was actually in that group of trolls that was rescued :p |
| 19:19.37 | Bagginsww | the official site description makes it sound like he was seperate from the group |
| 19:19.53 | dreamss | did they fix arcane shot? |
| 19:20.20 | Kirochi | did someone say "troll" ? |
| 19:21.11 | pcj | no |
| 19:21.36 | kd3 | lmao, is arc shot still dispelling shadowform? |
| 19:22.26 | Kirochi | Bagginsww, how dyou like my new picture for Hex Lord Malacrass? Thaddeus Loenbrough enough? |
| 19:22.28 | pcj | *sigh* http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Crochet_Hat&diff=next&oldid=955287 |
| 19:22.41 | Bagginsww | let me check |
| 19:23.07 | Bagginsww | sure that's much better, :) form the video right? |
| 19:24.26 | Kirochi | no, from my rear end >_> do you really think I'd have posted such a horrid picture as the first one if I had ANY material by then? |
| 19:25.33 | Kirochi | ZA's trailer is a blessing |
| 19:25.48 | Kirochi | it gets everything clear but the instance |
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| 19:30.03 | Bagginsww | ya |
| 19:30.13 | Bagginsww | well its causes more plot holes |
| 19:30.23 | Bagginsww | it clears some things, but causes more issues :p |
| 19:30.29 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Zul%27jin |
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| 19:37.54 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: Multiple Realm Restarts - http://www.wowblues.com/us/multiple-realm-restarts-2856205375.html |
| 19:38.00 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: Feature Removal: Enable Sound at Character - http://www.wowblues.com/us/feature-removal-enable-sound-at-character-2856224346.html |
| 19:40.16 | Bagginsww | this begs another quesiton |
| 19:40.20 | Bagginsww | what will the reventusk do now? |
| 19:40.24 | Bagginsww | *revantusk |
| 19:40.36 | Bagginsww | now that they know their leader is now an enemy of the horde |
| 19:40.41 | Bagginsww | do theyt hink he abandoned them? |
| 19:40.48 | Bagginsww | and remain allies of the Horde |
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| 19:41.26 | Bagginsww | or do they go to rejoin them? Does Zul'jin think of them as traitors as they never stopped breaking their pact after the blood elve sjoined? |
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| 19:49.10 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Zul%27jin#Zul.27Aman_Zul.27jin |
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| 19:57.53 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: [BUG] Badges disappear in Heroic Mech - http://www.wowblues.com/us/bug-badges-disappear-in-heroic-mech-2856025048.html |
| 19:57.59 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: [BUG] Badges in Chests - http://www.wowblues.com/us/bug-badges-in-chests-2855964847.html |
| 20:09.30 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Gifts from the Patch 2.3 fairy - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/11/14/gifts-from-the-patch-2-3-fairy/ |
| 20:13.47 | Kirochi | that's why they're not a faction anymore |
| 20:13.58 | Kirochi | they're utterly affiliated with the Horde |
| 20:14.45 | pcj | ugh i'm having problem with castsequence |
| 20:22.34 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: Huge loss of framerate since 2.3 - http://www.wowblues.com/us/huge-loss-of-framerate-since-23-2856014144.html |
| 20:22.34 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: Selling Stacked Items to Vendors - http://www.wowblues.com/us/selling-stacked-items-to-vendors-2856025342.html |
| 20:26.08 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: [BUG] Hunter Volley Shot SOUND Effect. - http://www.wowblues.com/us/bug-hunter-volley-shot-sound-effect-2856205257.html |
| 20:26.14 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: Bug [Targeting circle while moving] - http://www.wowblues.com/us/bug-targeting-circle-while-moving-2856205250.html |
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| 20:26.54 | aliesky | Hello everybody |
| 20:27.01 | aliesky | Lukian: hi |
| 20:33.44 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Alterac Valley is the new Alterac Valley - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/11/14/alterac-valley-is-the-new-alterac-valley/ |
| 20:34.08 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: Hunter Pet Behaviour - http://www.wowblues.com/us/hunter-pet-behaviour-2856015469.html |
| 20:35.07 | aliesky | somebody know about any specific manual for a Paly? a book or something? |
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| 20:44.04 | pcj | manual? |
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| 20:46.22 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: LOL they deleted the petition post - http://www.wowblues.com/us/lol-they-deleted-the-petition-post-2855965502.html |
| 20:53.46 | aliesky | pcj: a guide or something for each class |
| 20:53.59 | pcj | didn't wowwiki help at all? |
| 20:55.15 | aliesky | yes, wiki help, but i can't surf on internet all the time |
| 20:57.01 | pcj | you can print it out |
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| 20:58.29 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: WOTLK musical score? - http://www.wowblues.com/us/wotlk-musical-score-2856144899.html |
| 21:04.20 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: Grom Hellscream vs. Zul'jin - http://www.wowblues.com/us/grom-hellscream-vs-zuljin-2855965191.html |
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| 21:08.20 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: Season 1 gear on nov 20 or bust - http://www.wowblues.com/us/season-1-gear-on-nov-20-or-bust-2856205501.html |
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| 21:12.21 | aliesky | pcj: i don't ahve rpinter ;) |
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| 21:35.39 | kadrahil | haha |
| 21:35.51 | kadrahil | that season 1 vendor thread, drysc's comment |
| 21:35.58 | kadrahil | Oh, wow, well crap I'm just going to log out then since you're here. Take it away. |
| 21:36.31 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: Heroic Badges from the Legion Cache Mech - http://www.wowblues.com/us/heroic-badges-from-the-legion-cache-mech-2855964645.html |
| 21:36.37 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: Realm Restart - Nazgrel - 11/14/2007 - http://www.wowblues.com/us/realm-restart-nazgrel-11142007-2968226802.html |
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| 22:23.12 | laurly | foxlit Gryphen anyone home? |
| 22:23.18 | Gryphen | ya |
| 22:23.20 | pcj | hi laurly :) |
| 22:23.20 | foxlit | moo? |
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| 22:23.34 | laurly | wtb fix main page. |
| 22:23.48 | laurly | patch is up not on ptr any more and put ZA under popular with kara or something ha? |
| 22:23.51 | laurly | slackers |
| 22:27.32 | laurly | dont have acccess to edit that or i would have done it this moring while i was waiting for servers to pop |
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| 22:52.29 | laurly | thank you <3 |
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| 23:00.47 | Jaliborc_2 | Witch is the base-font of all pages? |
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| 23:04.32 | Jaliborc_2 | Anyone knows witch is the font-family used in the standard wow-wiki style? |
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| 23:08.53 | Sandwichman2448 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Future_race_ideas#Voting |
| 23:09.04 | Sandwichman2448 | Anything to add? This may have effect. |
| 23:09.21 | Sandwichman2448 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:Memorials |
| 23:09.26 | Sandwichman2448 | I made that. |
| 23:10.16 | Sandwichman2448 | This has been another edition of: Sandwichman quickly linking pages he wants people to talk about! |
| 23:10.44 | Sandwichman2448 | ...And loggin orf before he gets an anwser! |
| 23:11.56 | Sandwichman2448 | I saw a painting called Netherwing of a nether drake in a window today. Who would buy a painting of a video game? |
| 23:13.26 | Sandwichman2448 | LOL |
| 23:16.16 | [NewsBot] | BlizzPlanet: MYM - Starcraft 2: Ghost Overview - http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=1837 |
| 23:21.58 | Kaso | Starcraft 2: Ghost ? |
| 23:22.33 | Sandwichman2448 | The ghost in SC2 |
| 23:22.52 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: Realm Restart - Lightbringer - 11-15-07 - http://www.wowblues.com/us/realm-restart-lightbringer-111507-2968227004.html |
| 23:22.58 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: Realm Restart - Dalvengyr - 11-15-07 - http://www.wowblues.com/us/realm-restart-dalvengyr-111507-2968227001.html |
| 23:23.03 | Kaso | Ooh |
| 23:23.27 | Kaso | i thought i was some wierd hybrid of starcraft ghost and starcraft 2 they were talking about |
| 23:23.41 | Sandwichman2448 | Hybrids are different. |
| 23:24.03 | Sandwichman2448 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Future_race_ideas#Voting |
| 23:24.07 | Sandwichman2448 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:Memorials |
| 23:24.11 | Sandwichman2448 | Post here. |
| 23:25.07 | Sandwichman2448 | Please. |
| 23:26.09 | Sandwichman2448 | ... |
| 23:26.13 | Sandwichman2448 | I get the hint. |
| 23:26.16 | Sandwichman2448 | Bye. |
| 23:26.19 | hurax | don't know of any other memorial and the future race ideas had too much flamewars for me to participate |
| 23:26.35 | Sandwichman2448 | It is a vote to end it ALL! |
| 23:26.52 | Sandwichman2448 | DELETE! |
| 23:27.07 | Sandwichman2448 | Thanks for the input (really). |
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| 23:28.41 | hurax | i won't vote there... |
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| 23:30.30 | Sandwichman2448 | Ok |
| 23:31.34 | Sandwichman2448 | Bye all. |
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