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| 00:04.46 | Kaso | god its scary how much of unicode space is used up by the chinese charaters |
| 00:05.00 | Zeal | haha |
| 00:06.44 | Kaso | also interesting how they seem to go in waves of density, im not sure how they've been arranged or even how they really work. but umm, still intersting |
| 00:08.08 | pcj | I'm pretty sure some are like Korean, some are Japanese, some are Traditional Chinese, some are Traditional Chinese Simplified, etc |
| 00:09.40 | Olorin | I'd expect lots of them are arranged in the order of a previously used encoding, to ease conversion, then missing letterswhere added at the end |
| 00:09.47 | Kaso | there seems to be blocks of maybe 300-400 charaters which start off as being very simple. few lines. and over the course of that section build up in density |
| 00:11.09 | Zeal | well each basic chinese character as several varitions to it with very tiny changes. |
| 00:11.34 | Zeal | japanese actually onyl takes up 2 character sets on there, and doesn't have the same amount of vartions as chinese. |
| 00:11.49 | Zeal | chinese i think has 3-4 character sets. |
| 00:12.01 | Zeal | dunno about korean. |
| 00:12.09 | Kaso | interesting |
| 00:25.49 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:World_of_Warcraft:_The_Comic#Gladiators_illegal |
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| 00:38.13 | Zeal | well i couldn't find a decent one, so guess i'll have to stick to using courier new and arial unicode ms. |
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| 00:38.30 | [NewsBot] | awwwwww |
| 00:38.41 | [NewsBot] | i've been banned from #wikia :( |
| 00:39.07 | pcj | hooray |
| 00:39.08 | Kaso | why? |
| 00:39.35 | [NewsBot] | becuase my connection is insanely unstable i guess :P |
| 00:39.47 | Kaso | heh |
| 00:43.43 | Zeal | rofl |
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| 01:03.26 | foxlit | I love that quit message, even if it's a very obscure reference :P |
| 01:11.41 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:World_of_Warcraft:_The_Comic |
| 01:11.50 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:World_of_Warcraft:_The_Comic#Gladiators_illegal |
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| 01:30.47 | Kirkburn | Dotted, it's because they don't want bots |
| 01:38.12 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:King_Arthas |
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| 01:43.40 | Zeal | because they're nub Bagginsww |
| 01:43.54 | Bagginsww | lol |
| 01:44.16 | Bagginsww | ya fandy is always a nub |
| 01:46.11 | Dotted | Kirkburn|sleep dont request it then :P |
| 01:46.32 | Kirkburn|sleep | That was #wikia-gaming, not #wikia :/ |
| 01:46.45 | Dotted | someone else did then |
| 01:51.36 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Destromath seems to me in that case we could move it to Destromath |
| 01:51.52 | Bagginsww | mention it was a random hero name and inspired the name of two servers |
| 01:55.59 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Destromath |
| 01:58.50 | Bagginsww | In its case its important to note where that name originated :) |
| 02:22.04 | Bagginsww | Frankly I think Brutillus and Brutallus are supposed to be the same demon. Much in the way Gorgonnash is likely the same character as Gogonnash |
| 02:22.21 | Bagginsww | only thing different for both pit lords is a single letter. |
| 02:22.42 | Bagginsww | an i became an a in the case of Brutillus |
| 02:23.09 | Bagginsww | and an r was added to form Gorgonnash |
| 02:25.30 | pcj | !wwstats |
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| 02:27.18 | pcj | heh it says fisker is an op |
| 02:27.48 | pcj | dotted fails |
| 02:32.51 | Zeal | lol, i like the big numbers part, amusing. |
| 02:42.50 | Bagginsww | anyone know office 2007? and how to blockquote? |
| 02:43.31 | Zeal | have it, but don't know, sorry. |
| 02:46.00 | Zeal | just select the text, move ident, italics, no? |
| 02:46.07 | Zeal | *indent |
| 02:48.09 | Bagginsww | I suppose I could manually indent both sides |
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| 02:51.16 | Bagginsww | ahh found something under one of the ribbons |
| 02:51.40 | Zeal | kk :S |
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| 03:46.00 | circuitbomb | goodday and goodevening all |
| 03:49.39 | Zeal | lo ho yo go |
| 03:56.30 | winkiller | yes! |
| 03:56.39 | winkiller | I just nuked all the ugly red tables in the rogue sets |
| 03:58.21 | circuitbomb | what of all the server pages in the wanted list ex. Server:Mal'Ganis US(14 links) how can I help by knocking some of those out? |
| 04:00.22 | pcj | the server people are working on that |
| 04:00.29 | pcj | you shouldn't worry about it |
| 04:00.35 | winkiller | hu? |
| 04:00.40 | winkiller | what server people? :P |
| 04:02.08 | circuitbomb | uh you'd think with the amount thats there, wouldnt there be a project for it listed in the community portal? |
| 04:02.32 | circuitbomb | or am i missing it because I only have 1 eye? |
| 04:02.45 | pcj | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Upgrade_Late_2007#Another_question_for_TOR |
| 04:03.37 | winkiller | yeah, what pcj said |
| 04:03.43 | circuitbomb | ok, thanks for clearing that up pcj |
| 04:03.44 | winkiller | will be a topic in a month again maybe |
| 04:03.49 | circuitbomb | lol |
| 04:04.19 | winkiller | normally you just take one server page/server category and copy/paste stuff to the missing one and edit the name :P |
| 04:04.35 | winkiller | I did that once like 100 times, I know what I'm speaking of 8) |
| 04:05.00 | circuitbomb | bleh, copy and paste, ^^ |
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| 05:12.06 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Future_race_ideas#Keepers_of_the_grove |
| 05:31.08 | Zeal | 176/230 chapters, that's all english released chapters entered :) |
| 05:32.09 | Zeal | mm.. xls looks fun |
| 05:32.55 | Zeal | *xsl ;x |
| 05:33.40 | Bagginsww | ya just made it to page 6 of 7 of my research paper |
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| 05:34.50 | Zeal | thought you did that earlier? :P |
| 05:34.58 | Bagginsww | I've been doing it all day |
| 05:35.09 | Bagginsww | do you know how hard it is to find the right articles to back up your points :p |
| 05:35.24 | Zeal | i'm sure it's painfull, but you're so good at it ;) |
| 05:35.30 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 05:36.16 | Bagginsww | I'm almost done with the section on racial classification pros and cons |
| 05:36.35 | Bagginsww | I already did the section on institutionalized racism |
| 05:36.45 | Zeal | lol |
| 05:36.59 | Bagginsww | my last section is on stereotyping, and finally the closing paragraph |
| 05:42.07 | Bagginsww | I'm actually duelboxing LOL |
| 05:42.25 | Zeal | while xsl seems really nice.. it's coems down to an issue i have with the over reliance on javascript. keep logic server side and make the server do the work, not the client : / |
| 05:42.28 | Bagginsww | *dual |
| 05:42.47 | Bagginsww | looking up research text on my main computer writing on my laptop |
| 05:43.03 | Bagginsww | mainly because its easier to read the text on the 24 in widescreen heh |
| 05:43.41 | Zeal | lol |
| 05:44.08 | Zeal | i have 3 sceens and 3 pc's. i'm only using 2 screens and 1 pc, lol. |
| 05:55.07 | Bagginsww | lol |
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| 06:03.33 | Zeal | screw XSL-FO.. |
| 06:56.28 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Future_race_ideas |
| 06:56.43 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Future_race_ideas#Keepers_of_the_grove |
| 06:56.49 | winkiller | noooo |
| 06:56.51 | winkiller | brrr |
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| 07:11.44 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Dryad#Mage |
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| 07:21.50 | ubuntu | Chrysophylax |
| 07:21.58 | bleeter | whaddaloadabollox |
| 07:22.10 | bleeter | those liknks, Bagginsww |
| 07:22.20 | Bagginsww | hmm? |
| 07:23.49 | bleeter | just me being an appionated asshole :) |
| 07:24.51 | Bagginsww | oh I agree |
| 07:24.52 | Bagginsww | lol |
| 07:25.17 | Bagginsww | as for mage dryads :p |
| 07:25.43 | Bagginsww | the example was more along the lines that a dryad has to take a class in creature class dryad before she can take a class in warrior or mage |
| 07:25.53 | bleeter | I feel like adding to the Future Race ideas talk page: 'Egberts' |
| 07:26.02 | Bagginsww | egberts? |
| 07:26.09 | Lukian | lol! |
| 07:26.11 | bleeter | with a 'cmon you all know ya wanna run round like a mad thing and take no dmg' |
| 07:26.20 | bleeter | http://www.wowwiki.com/Egbert |
| 07:26.28 | Bagginsww | ooh those |
| 07:26.46 | Bagginsww | why not a qbert? Be chased by evil snake things and fall off of blocks :p |
| 07:26.51 | bleeter | haha |
| 07:29.42 | Zeal | lemmings for new race |
| 07:29.46 | Bagginsww | hah hah |
| 07:29.51 | Zeal | get to 70 then jump of a cliff. |
| 07:29.54 | Bagginsww | Goombas everyone likes goobas |
| 07:30.04 | Zeal | lol |
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| 07:39.23 | Bagginsww | so ya, they should make centaur mounts, LOL |
| 07:39.37 | Bagginsww | then people can have a "playable" centaur sorta |
| 07:41.43 | bleeter | Zeal: nah, the race should be Disney Film Producer... and the quests are to chase the lemmings off cliffs ;) |
| 07:42.07 | Zeal | i don't get it :s |
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| 08:01.17 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Ogre&action=history |
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| 08:06.34 | t-motion | hello |
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| 08:08.52 | t-motion | the hide show js is in default setting are: showed the article but is there any way to turn the way? |
| 08:09.49 | t-motion | i mean first the article was hide, and the client want to see it cick to show it... |
| 08:10.08 | t-motion | hope its understandable |
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| 08:33.21 | Bawmheadshot | #wowi-lounge |
| 08:33.29 | Bawmheadshot | damn |
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| 09:09.18 | Zeal | t-motion, i understand what you mean, but i don't know how to change the default state, or if the state is saved for each article. |
| 09:09.35 | Zeal | hopefully someone else can help you. |
| 09:10.33 | Zeal | wb Kirkburn |
| 09:12.21 | t-motion | i found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Collapsible_tables |
| 09:12.31 | t-motion | lol |
| 09:13.13 | t-motion | next timei first search out, and when its cant help i ask... |
| 09:13.27 | t-motion | and its works nicely |
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| 09:16.54 | Zeal | kk :p |
| 09:36.41 | Zeal | haha, they changed part of a quote from a review in the space of 2 mangas. |
| 09:37.53 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: 07/11 Free character migration - http://www.wowblues.com/eu/0711-free-character-migration-1511942644.html |
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| 09:50.26 | [NewsBot] | MMO Champion: 2.3 Patch - Changes compilation - http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=2273.0 |
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| 09:52.09 | bleeter | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2856221487&sid=1 |
| 09:53.25 | Adys | a remake of the UBRS guild chat ages ago? |
| 09:53.57 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Giant_%28language%29 |
| 09:53.58 | bleeter | prolly |
| 09:54.19 | Bagginsww | wow I hit a random reference, second one for the Giant language. |
| 09:54.43 | bleeter | Echeyakee being camped is amusing |
| 09:55.16 | bleeter | and Mandokir bitching about evading PCs on poles |
| 09:55.23 | Corgan | [1.General][Mankriks Wife]: I died and I cant seem to find my bodycan anyone help me find it? |
| 09:55.24 | Corgan | ahaha |
| 09:55.39 | Adys | lol |
| 09:56.16 | Corgan | haha oh wow |
| 09:56.17 | Corgan | [3.GuildRecruitment][Garr]: Now recruiting for . Were an end-game guild that camps Molten Core and concentrates on wiping PCs. 2 openings left! PST if interested. |
| 09:56.17 | Corgan | [3.GuildRecruitment][Lava Surger]: Oh heck yeah thats me, where do I sign up? |
| 09:56.17 | Corgan | [3.GuildRecruitment][Garr]: On the website! |
| 09:56.33 | winkiller | lol |
| 09:57.10 | Adys | [1.General][Lady Katrana Prestor]: Ok guys…gotta go wipe a raid. Seeya! |
| 09:57.10 | Adys | Lady Katrana Prestor has gone offline. |
| 09:57.10 | Adys | [Onyxia] has come online. |
| 09:57.10 | Adys | [1.General][Elling Trias]: How does she hide that fat dragon rear of hers? |
| 09:57.10 | Adys | [1.General][Woo Ping]: [Orb of Deception] |
| 09:57.34 | Corgan | oh god what the hell |
| 09:57.38 | Corgan | [2.Trade][Stonespine]: WTS [Stoneskin Gargoyle Cape]. I crafted it yesterday. Its white and looks longer than your average cloak or cape. |
| 09:57.38 | Corgan | [2.Trade][Lil Timmy]: Are you sure about its color and length? I hear you only got it yesterday. What about stats? |
| 09:57.41 | Corgan | I just died. |
| 09:57.58 | Adys | lol |
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| 10:00.54 | winkiller | LOL |
| 10:00.58 | Zeal | hm.. is it html/internet/computers that have made the singular quotation mark standard? :S |
| 10:01.16 | winkiller | standard for what? |
| 10:01.22 | winkiller | char 'a' |
| 10:01.25 | winkiller | string "string" |
| 10:01.40 | winkiller | <html has="double"> |
| 10:01.55 | Zeal | "lalala" vs. the more traditional lalala |
| 10:02.46 | Zeal | incase you can't see them for w/e reason. that's the singular double quotes vs. the seperate left and right ones. |
| 10:03.13 | Adys | er probably the lack of many encodings/keyboards being able to write “ / ” |
| 10:03.21 | Zeal | yeah |
| 10:03.29 | Zeal | that's what i was thinking |
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| 10:05.05 | Zeal | i might actually start using the seperate ones in text though. encoding for it fully available, most font's support them, and they're more accurate. just a pain having to c&p them all the time. |
| 10:05.44 | winkiller | I refuse to use anything non-ascii besides myäöüß |
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| 10:05.52 | Zeal | lol |
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| 10:06.40 | Zeal | - vs. too |
| 10:07.10 | winkiller | again please |
| 10:07.14 | winkiller | I switched to utf8 |
| 10:07.17 | Zeal | lol |
| 10:07.23 | winkiller | maybe I get more than boxes now |
| 10:07.29 | Zeal | - vs. |
| 10:07.41 | winkiller | ok, 1 boxinstead of 2 |
| 10:07.46 | winkiller | :P |
| 10:07.47 | Zeal | haha |
| 10:08.04 | Zeal | it's hyphen vs. dash basically |
| 10:08.27 | winkiller | yeah, thought so |
| 10:12.15 | Zeal | i wish these were the sort of things i was taught in english classes.. not bloody going over the top of reading books and poetry : / |
| 10:21.59 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: Elemental Shaman - DPS Change - http://www.wowblues.com/eu/elemental-shaman-dps-change-1597900408.html |
| 10:25.50 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: Lol ret - http://www.wowblues.com/eu/lol-ret-1597940314.html |
| 10:30.41 | Zeal | well that's all the synopsis, publication dates and isbn numbers for the first english publication x_x |
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| 10:39.16 | Zeal | http://www.zealvurte.co.uk/manga/xml/omg.xml for anyone who's interested in the WIP. |
| 10:39.21 | Zeal | i'm off now, nn all |
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| 10:58.06 | Kaso | i think "goodbye" threads in realm forums are the most narcissistic thing ever |
| 10:58.50 | Corgan | ^^ |
| 10:59.06 | winkiller | I don't mind em |
| 10:59.20 | winkiller | helps me to remember when someone leaves I might only miss some months later :P |
| 11:14.20 | Fisker-- | ownt |
| 11:23.49 | Fisker-- | you died |
| 11:23.50 | Fisker-- | n00b |
| 11:24.06 | Corgan | I'm a zombie |
| 11:27.25 | Fisker-- | and i'm the cure |
| 11:27.42 | Fisker-- | oh and btw zombies don't have enough brain functions to tackle or hug |
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| 11:47.03 | Bagginsww | one wonders why zombies always seem to be more powerful than humans... |
| 11:47.18 | Bagginsww | in the movies I mean |
| 11:47.26 | Bagginsww | and yet most of the time very slow |
| 11:47.33 | Bagginsww | and people still can't outrun them. |
| 11:51.09 | bleeter | I wonder how the fuck ghost mobs get damaged by melee/ranged... sure, spell damage I can understand.. but.. take direct physical dmg? |
| 11:51.22 | bleeter | and I mean.. I worry about this lots.. every time I encounter a 'ghost' mobv |
| 11:51.24 | bleeter | -v |
| 11:56.12 | Wulf_ | Bagginsww: in sunken temple, sethekk halls, ..., there are ghosts. they are very powerful and move very slowly. still, many humans don't manage to outrun them ;) |
| 11:56.22 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 11:56.24 | Bagginsww | true |
| 11:56.42 | Wulf_ | i.e. people in movies are just stupid. |
| 11:56.48 | Bagginsww | heh |
| 11:56.53 | Bagginsww | you don't even have to run form zombies |
| 11:56.58 | bleeter | d/in movies/ |
| 11:57.01 | Bagginsww | a slow stride would probalby work |
| 11:57.15 | Bagginsww | or walking regular LOL |
| 11:57.24 | bleeter | like a walk in the black forest? |
| 11:57.56 | bleeter | that's prolly my fave grinding music of all time |
| 11:58.14 | bleeter | and you'd have to have seen The Goodies 'Pirate Radio' episode to understand why |
| 11:58.43 | bleeter | no wonder I fail at socialising... obscure references ftl |
| 12:01.52 | Bagginsww | ya I'm clueless, LOL |
| 12:01.55 | Bagginsww | anycase night all |
| 12:02.43 | Wulf_ | night Baggins |
| 12:04.51 | bleeter | gnight Baggins, rest well mate :) |
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| 12:47.23 | Kirkburn | lol, just looked at my ex's sisters Facebook page ... she's 15, and scary |
| 12:47.40 | Kirkburn | Scary as in man-eater |
| 12:47.56 | winkiller | o_O |
| 12:47.59 | Daworm | *blink* why are you checking up your ex's sister ? |
| 12:48.36 | Kirkburn | I was with her sister for two years, and she updated her profile image |
| 12:48.45 | Daworm | ah fair enuf |
| 12:49.11 | Kirkburn | I remember from when she was 12 ... she's changed a lot >_> |
| 12:49.22 | winkiller | no shit! :P |
| 12:49.27 | Kirkburn | lol |
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| 12:57.54 | Daworm | lol |
| 12:58.11 | Daworm | in some countries, wait another year and you can legally go out with her. >.> |
| 12:58.27 | Kirkburn | Er, like my country |
| 12:58.30 | Daworm | :P |
| 12:58.55 | Kirkburn | I'm already spoken for though :) |
| 12:59.01 | Daworm | didn't you guys have some crackhead policeman suggest lowering the legal age of consent to like 12 or some shit? |
| 12:59.13 | Daworm | this was a few months back. |
| 12:59.16 | Kirkburn | The UK? Not that I recall |
| 12:59.26 | Daworm | Might have been a small thing then. |
| 12:59.29 | winkiller | like anyone listens to the police |
| 12:59.39 | winkiller | (every breath you take...) |
| 12:59.41 | winkiller | nvm :) |
| 13:00.23 | Daworm | Only read about it in a paper as I was reading something about weird laws that are trying to be passed. Somewhere in Europe, I forget where, there's some groups that are pushing to make sex with a minor legal if it's within the family. Something like "Family Harmony" the group is called. |
| 13:01.06 | winkiller | o_O |
| 13:01.21 | winkiller | I'll spare the Belgian joke now... |
| 13:01.52 | Daworm | dead serious |
| 13:02.11 | winkiller | never heard such a thing |
| 13:02.27 | winkiller | but I don't think that will come |
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| 13:47.34 | Kirkburn | My Uni are still sending me email :/ |
| 13:47.57 | Kirkburn | I'm not at Uni, and especially not in 3rd year Civil Engineering :( |
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| 13:56.08 | Kirkburn | o_O |
| 13:57.01 | pcj | well...i'll just let you two get acquainted then |
| 13:59.25 | Kirkburn | I must point out: "<Kirkburn> I'm already spoken for though :)" |
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| 14:02.46 | pcj | dotoff plz turn wowblues off kthx |
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| 14:40.43 | Kirkburn | heh, Anticrash's girl calls him a "WoWWiki nerd" :P |
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| 14:42.20 | pcj | i predict we'll hit 50k articles once foxbot runs |
| 14:50.03 | Kirkburn | cool |
| 14:50.11 | Kirkburn | Will tell Wikia later :) |
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| 14:51.49 | Hobinheim|work | o7 |
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| 15:09.40 | Hobinheim|work | why would they buff quest xp |
| 15:09.45 | Hobinheim|work | it's like they want the world to mean less |
| 15:09.49 | Hobinheim|work | and the end game to mean more |
| 15:10.14 | Hobinheim|work | the only problem i have with that is that it de-emphasizes the quests that you do... although, they have stated that your'e not supposed to do all of them |
| 15:10.23 | Hobinheim|work | which kinda kills the completionist in me |
| 15:10.43 | Wulf_ | when you create a new character, it sucks to get it to a high level. and you already know all quests anyway |
| 15:10.53 | Wulf_ | I like this change |
| 15:11.03 | Hobinheim|work | that's true too... |
| 15:11.30 | _dreamss | taking the grind out of mmo is bad? |
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| 15:12.06 | ae5 | well |
| 15:12.09 | _dreamss | while there a shit ton of gring in the game, blizz cut a lot compared to other mmos |
| 15:12.12 | ae5 | once you've done that crap once... |
| 15:12.24 | ae5 | not so fun the 2nd, 3rd, 10th, 45th time around |
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| 15:12.43 | ae5 | and at this point there are way more lowbie alts/rerolls than first timers |
| 15:12.46 | _dreamss | also this is another way for blizz to kill chinese farmers |
| 15:12.59 | ae5 | ? |
| 15:13.02 | ae5 | how so? |
| 15:13.21 | _dreamss | easier leveling? |
| 15:13.30 | _dreamss | instead of paying a service to level you an alt |
| 15:13.42 | ae5 | oh |
| 15:13.54 | ae5 | i was thinking more of the sale/purchase of gold |
| 15:14.15 | _dreamss | gold is so easy to adquire now |
| 15:14.25 | ae5 | not at low levels |
| 15:14.31 | ae5 | gold is ridiculous |
| 15:14.44 | ae5 | yea at 70 with 2 gatherer professions it's easy enough |
| 15:14.50 | _dreamss | no if u sell at BC prices |
| 15:14.53 | ae5 | but say you're a leveling warrior, not so easy |
| 15:15.04 | ae5 | where you need all new gear every 3-5 levels |
| 15:15.32 | ae5 | but say you're a warlock with mining/skinning, not so bad |
| 15:15.52 | ae5 | depends on the server too |
| 15:16.12 | ae5 | recently rerolled on tichondrius and the prices for stuff on there are WAY off from the other servers i've been on |
| 15:16.26 | ae5 | like copper bars, stacks going for 3-5g |
| 15:16.28 | ae5 | like wtf |
| 15:16.39 | ae5 | everywhere else i've been it's like under 1g |
| 15:17.00 | _dreamss | yeah my server, pre 60 ore prices = post 60 ore prices |
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| 15:17.40 | ae5 | but of course just because i see something listed for 5g doesn't mean it sells for 5g, just that someone was deluded enough to ask 5g for it |
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| 16:26.02 | aliesky | Hello everybody!!! |
| 16:31.14 | aliesky | Lukian: Hello |
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| 16:31.37 | Lukian | and hi :p |
| 16:32.12 | aliesky | Lukian: what need a paly for be a Magic DPS? |
| 16:32.28 | Lukian | +damage and healing |
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| 16:32.42 | aliesky | lv50 |
| 16:33.08 | aliesky | but, Magic Damage with a lot of Intellect, right? |
| 16:33.47 | Lukian | spell crit is good too, but yes, int |
| 16:34.21 | aliesky | Lukian: and the talens? wich tree? |
| 16:34.28 | Lukian | retribution |
| 16:34.47 | trickeh | I heard there will be more moonkin gear dropping in ZA is this true? |
| 16:34.59 | Lukian | look it up :p |
| 16:35.41 | aliesky | Lukian: can you advice me about a good build for a lv50? |
| 16:35.58 | Lukian | I can try, but I don't play ret |
| 16:36.01 | trickeh | Look it uo where?:P |
| 16:36.24 | aliesky | wich you play? |
| 16:36.27 | aliesky | Holy? |
| 16:37.23 | aliesky | any advice is welcome |
| 16:38.23 | Lukian | aliesky, maybe this: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=sVxZZVfctMbud0o |
| 16:38.28 | Lukian | I play holy/prot yeah |
| 16:38.55 | aliesky | i want to test everything |
| 16:45.21 | moveax | Is there an epic pvp flying mount at all? |
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| 16:57.20 | aliesky | Lukian: if i'm using a Shield i need to use the two-handed weapons talent? |
| 16:57.39 | Lukian | as a ret paladin you don't use a 1h and shield |
| 16:57.55 | Lukian | if you must use a shield, prot would suit your style of play better |
| 17:00.46 | aliesky | well... for magic DPS what is better a fast one-hand weapon or a slow two hands? |
| 17:02.42 | Lukian | neither. as a ret paladin you are dealing melee and magic DPS |
| 17:03.06 | Lukian | because you are dealing both, and the talents in the ret tree favour a 2h, you use a 2h. |
| 17:03.11 | aliesky | ah! ok thanks |
| 17:03.30 | aliesky | talking about another thing |
| 17:03.51 | aliesky | what do you think about a combat between a Warrior and a Druid? |
| 17:04.03 | aliesky | Warrior vs Druid |
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| 17:04.36 | Lukian | that's really gear and skille based |
| 17:04.39 | Lukian | either can win |
| 17:05.23 | aliesky | but how can a warrior deal with the roots? |
| 17:06.09 | Lukian | oh, a moonkin would probably win |
| 17:06.49 | aliesky | what is a moonkin? |
| 17:07.36 | Lukian | magic DPS druid |
| 17:08.13 | aliesky | then the warrior are lost in this battle |
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| 17:14.30 | Hobinheim|work | i was thinking of making this tool, whose input would be the composition and spec of your party |
| 17:14.39 | Hobinheim|work | and it would make not about what you're missing. tank. dps. cc. |
| 17:14.49 | Hobinheim|work | useful? useless? |
| 17:14.57 | Hobinheim|work | *make note |
| 17:15.37 | Hobinheim|work | it's something i've wanted to do for other video games, then i remembered it could be done for wow as well |
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| 17:15.54 | Hobinheim|work | maybe i could make it just take realm and usernames, and it would look up specs online through the armory |
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| 17:34.13 | winkiller | can you only start the BEM Skyguard quests after doing the Ogri'la start quests? |
| 17:34.57 | winkiller | it's been so long since I started on rogue and druid.. but my lock won't get any quests, although I just hit Friendly by doing Skettis stuff |
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| 17:58.20 | Kirkburn | winkiller, aye :( |
| 18:05.45 | winkiller | k, thanks, guess I'll have to do that then |
| 18:06.00 | winkiller | not that I'm especially keen in doing dailies on 3 toons.. but GIEF MONEY PLX |
| 18:06.04 | winkiller | whatever, bye |
| 18:06.17 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 18:06.38 | Kirkburn | I've not got around to doing those quests, but one day, one day |
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| 18:23.05 | TuLe | anyone here? |
| 18:24.15 | Kirkburn | Nope ;) |
| 18:24.17 | Kirkburn | Hullo |
| 18:24.33 | TuLe | hehehe |
| 18:24.44 | TuLe | looking for wow infos on irc |
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| 18:27.15 | Kirkburn | TuLe, what do you want to know? :) |
| 18:27.36 | TuLe | no talk lol |
| 18:27.44 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 18:28.08 | Kirkburn | Well, chat is sporadic on here, you're welcome to to stick around |
| 18:29.25 | TuLe | heres the thing, im at work, bored and all ican think is about wow and my lvl30 frostmage |
| 18:30.19 | TuLe | so i was looking at WoWWiki and decided to give to come over here |
| 18:30.35 | TuLe | im bored lol |
| 18:30.58 | Kirkburn | Good enough reason :P |
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| 18:32.03 | TuLe | i have an 70 hunter on aman'thul, now im rolling a mage... man im in luv with the class |
| 18:33.03 | Kirkburn | cool |
| 18:34.51 | TuLe | yeah very |
| 18:35.02 | TuLe | anyother wow channels around? |
| 18:35.07 | TuLe | mage ones hehhe |
| 18:35.40 | Kirkburn | [[IRC]] |
| 18:35.41 | [NewsBot] | Kirkburn meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/IRC |
| 18:35.47 | Kirkburn | That page has a run-down |
| 18:40.29 | Kirkburn | :( |
| 18:40.53 | pcj | gg |
| 18:41.14 | Kirkburn | I'm too helpful :P |
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| 18:47.04 | pcj | lol |
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| 19:32.15 | aliesky | Question: What can i do with a book called "Libram of Rapidity"? |
| 19:34.15 | aliesky | i meant: can i use it for something or just drop it? |
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| 19:48.16 | Hobinheim|work | [[Libram of Rapidity]] |
| 19:48.16 | [NewsBot] | Hobinheim|work meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Libram_of_Rapidity |
| 19:48.27 | aliesky | Kaso: can you help me? |
| 19:48.47 | Kaso | depends |
| 19:48.52 | Kaso | whatcha need |
| 19:49.54 | aliesky | i need to know what i can do with a "Libram of Rapidity" book |
| 19:50.03 | aliesky | can i use it for something? |
| 19:50.17 | Kaso | see the link Hobinheim|work posted a second ago |
| 19:50.18 | Hobinheim|work | aliesky, have you tried searching for it on wowwiki |
| 19:50.26 | Hobinheim|work | that would really be the first thing to do |
| 19:50.32 | Hobinheim|work | it sounds like you didn't try |
| 19:50.39 | Hobinheim|work | which isn't good |
| 19:51.53 | aliesky | Hobinheim|work: i look for it at http://www.wowhead.com/?item=18332 and just say the content of the book |
| 19:52.06 | Hobinheim|work | have you tried looking for it on the website wowwiki |
| 19:52.49 | aliesky | on the website wowwiki no, thanks for the advice, i'll try now |
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| 20:11.09 | aliesky | Hobinheim|work: i found it |
| 20:11.10 | aliesky | thanks again |
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| 20:35.35 | pcj | lies |
| 20:35.43 | pcj | Dotoff turn wowblues off |
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| 20:39.39 | moveax | pcj: am I aload to ask questions regarding the sale of my wow account here? |
| 20:39.44 | moveax | allowed* lol |
| 20:39.49 | pcj | see topic |
| 20:39.55 | pcj | "No trolling/acc trading/emu serv talks, thanks" |
| 20:40.05 | moveax | acc trading |
| 20:40.26 | moveax | I suppose trading for cash is trade. |
| 20:40.38 | moveax | Shame though, considering it's perfectly legal. |
| 20:40.47 | pcj | No it's not |
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| 20:41.41 | moveax | It's in the TOS. |
| 20:41.59 | moveax | You're allowed to give another person ownership...you're allowed to transfer ownership. |
| 20:42.51 | moveax | AH well. |
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| 20:46.10 | moveax | http://rafb.net/p/nEnyps71.html |
| 20:46.15 | moveax | for example. |
| 20:47.34 | Kaso | moveax, for someone who was told he wasnt allowed to talk about account trading, you certainly are talking alot about account trading |
| 20:48.54 | moveax | 'm merely talking about the legal system and intellectual property :) |
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| 20:49.14 | moveax | It just so happens it's regarding Blizzard's product :P |
| 20:50.26 | Kaso | i dont care for legal smoke an mirrrors, people buying accounts know what they are buying, and people selling accounts know what they are selling, not matter what you try to call it |
| 20:51.05 | moveax | Aye, time :) |
| 20:51.19 | moveax | Labour, however you want to word it. |
| 20:51.27 | Kaso | seriously stop? do you think you're fooling me? or blizzard ? |
| 20:52.13 | moveax | What? |
| 20:52.29 | moveax | What makes you think I'm selling or buying an "account"? |
| 20:52.39 | Kaso | <moveax> pcj: am I aload to ask questions regarding the sale of my wow account here? |
| 20:52.40 | Kaso | that? |
| 20:52.44 | moveax | I really was only interested in the legalities surrounding the matter. |
| 20:52.49 | Kirkburn | >_< |
| 20:52.57 | Kirkburn | In any case, topic to avoid :) |
| 20:53.06 | moveax | OK Kirkburn. |
| 20:53.13 | moveax | See, what a sense way of putting it. |
| 20:53.22 | moveax | Instead of coming from someone with a stick up thweir arse ;) |
| 20:53.31 | moveax | nice way* |
| 20:53.33 | pcj | ... |
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| 20:53.39 | moveax | pcj: Not you :) |
| 20:53.40 | Kirkburn | Careful now |
| 20:53.54 | pcj | you were asked to stop and you kept at it |
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| 20:54.00 | pcj | Oh snap |
| 20:54.03 | pcj | he told you |
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| 20:54.13 | pcj | ...wb kirkburn |
| 20:54.19 | Kirkburn | Wrong button :P |
| 20:54.22 | moveax | Er no pcj.I'm just interested in the law surrounding the matter :)3~ |
| 20:54.23 | Kirkburn | Silly shortcuts |
| 20:54.37 | moveax | Kirkburn: I do that all the time, except I type commands.... figure that out :/ |
| 20:54.53 | Kirkburn | What Kaso described was correct, describing it differently doesn't change what is being done |
| 20:55.12 | Griz64 | This is COMPLETELY off Topic for this channel, but I'm hoping you folks (Steam Users) can answer a big question I have. I have already purchased CoD4 and would like to install it, into my Steam/Valve account. Is this possible? or do I have to REbuy the game, via Steam/Valve for it to be playable via Steam?? |
| 20:55.13 | Kaso | well the law is this, blizzard own the account, and whilst its not illegal to trade, blizzard are free to terminate the account if you do (as iti |
| 20:55.17 | Kaso | its theres) |
| 20:55.24 | Kirkburn | Griz64, retail? |
| 20:55.35 | Griz64 | Kirkburn, affirmative. DVD. |
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| 20:55.49 | pcj | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/legal/termsofuse.html |
| 20:55.59 | pcj | "Blizzard does not recognize the transfer of Accounts. You may not purchase, sell, gift or trade any Account, or offer to purchase, sell, gift or trade any Account, and any such attempt shall be null and void. " |
| 20:56.05 | Kirkburn | I'm not sure, you could try entering the product key into the "activate a product" section |
| 20:56.20 | pcj | if you have any questions about that moveax i'm sorry |
| 20:56.31 | moveax | pcj: ah but again, are you buying the account or the labour put into it? that's my question |
| 20:56.41 | pcj | the account |
| 20:56.46 | Kirkburn | There's no difference |
| 20:56.53 | moveax | No, not to us |
| 20:56.59 | Griz64 | Kirkburn, Thank You for the responce. It IS appreciated. I guess I have nothing to loose (other then my keycode). |
| 20:56.59 | moveax | but from a legal point of view there is |
| 20:57.22 | Kirkburn | Since the account owner *is* the one playing the account, as defined by the ToS. |
| 20:57.24 | moveax | Blizzard say you ca transfer ownership of an account provided you give the new owner all the CDs and materials that you own. |
| 20:57.30 | pcj | No it doesn't |
| 20:57.39 | pcj | Blizzard says you cannot transfer accounts. |
| 20:57.48 | pcj | In what I just quoted |
| 20:57.53 | Kirkburn | The only transfer is material, not account-wise |
| 20:58.01 | moveax | Erm, OK.So please do explain how my uncle gave me his account and transferred it into my name? :) |
| 20:58.05 | Kirkburn | Same surname |
| 20:58.12 | moveax | Nope |
| 20:58.23 | moveax | He'son my mother's side, not my father's :) |
| 20:58.24 | Kirkburn | Same surname on the credit card? |
| 20:58.45 | moveax | Nope, my surname is completely different. |
| 20:58.56 | Kaso | then if eh |
| 20:59.01 | Kaso | he broke the rules |
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| 20:59.21 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Medivh&diff=977279&oldid=972252 :p |
| 20:59.31 | moveax | Nope, it was done through blizzard.We phoned them. He was who got me into wow hehe |
| 20:59.41 | moveax | this is why i'm confused |
| 21:00.26 | Kirkburn | Me too, but I guess your uncle was convincing :) |
| 21:00.33 | moveax | Bagginsww: Interesting read. |
| 21:00.40 | Kirkburn | In any case, that was the exception, not the rule |
| 21:00.44 | moveax | Kirkburn: Or it'ssimply permitted when you go through the correct channels. |
| 21:00.45 | Kaso | Well we all know blizzard allow account trancefer in families. perhaps they were willing to slightly extend the definitonf of family for this cause but it does not change anything |
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| 21:00.58 | Kirkburn | Warning Ragestorm!? |
| 21:01.01 | moveax | Kaso: That must be it then. |
| 21:01.26 | moveax | Kaso: That's really is or I'm interested... there was no need for you to "fly off the handle" as you did earlier. |
| 21:01.39 | Kirkburn | Bagginsww, I'm not entirely certain Ragestorm will take it well |
| 21:01.50 | Bagginsww | I left a note in the talk page too |
| 21:02.07 | Kirkburn | k :P |
| 21:02.07 | Bagginsww | the biggest problem is he's assuming he is officially called "magna" |
| 21:02.11 | moveax | I need to get my self to grips with the actual wiki application. |
| 21:02.20 | Bagginsww | yet he also never called magna in the book |
| 21:02.42 | foxlit | Care meter: -5 |
| 21:02.46 | Bagginsww | and when we learn that all previous guardians were names magna was actually like 70 years before medivh was even born |
| 21:02.49 | Kirkburn | moveax, the subject is pretty touchy, and it comes up far too often (especially for those around for a long time) |
| 21:02.50 | Bagginsww | *named |
| 21:03.02 | Bagginsww | the book never says that tradition was passed onto medivh |
| 21:03.15 | Kirkburn | Well, why assume traditions stopped? |
| 21:03.22 | foxlit | But that's just me :P |
| 21:03.30 | Bagginsww | infact most sources just call medhiv the Magus, or "Magus Medhiv" |
| 21:03.32 | Bagginsww | as his title |
| 21:03.32 | moveax | Kirkburn: What subject? The trading issue? |
| 21:04.20 | Kirkburn | aye |
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| 21:05.46 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Medivh |
| 21:06.01 | Bagginsww | sky left another reference to "Magus Medhiv" if you want to fix the the citation |
| 21:06.18 | Bagginsww | I have issues mixing up your various ref types :p |
| 21:06.44 | Bagginsww | I scared him way :p |
| 21:06.48 | Bagginsww | LOL |
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| 21:08.15 | moveax | Kirkburn: I disagree with trading when it's for profit but personally I don'tdisagree with it when it's between friends and it's done legally. That'smy two cents on it. |
| 21:08.43 | pcj | heh "Bagginsww didn't have anyone to talk to and performed 113 monoloques (writing over 5 lines in a row)." |
| 21:09.19 | Kirkburn | moveax, it's not about disagreement, we don't/can't allow specific talk of stuff that is defined as against the Blizzard rules |
| 21:09.35 | Kirkburn | pcj, scary eh :P |
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| 21:10.07 | moveax | Kirkburn: Fair point and will delivered. I will refrain from talking about it in here again. |
| 21:10.21 | Arcane_NB | well both my characters are at least lvl 20 and gaining rest, waiting for the world to change around them |
| 21:10.42 | Kirkburn | Arcane_NB, fun days :) |
| 21:10.47 | moveax | Why? |
| 21:11.42 | Kirkburn | 2.3 |
| 21:11.42 | Arcane_NB | Bilz is changing (reducing) the XP required for lvls 20-60 |
| 21:12.04 | moveax | Ah yes that. |
| 21:12.13 | moveax | Hmm, fair enough. |
| 21:12.23 | Arcane_NB | I wonder what they will do with existing XP, will it be reduced so that I have a consistant number of filled bars, or could I jump a level or 10 |
| 21:12.26 | moveax | How much of an increase is it? Is it going to be really noticable? |
| 21:12.47 | Arcane_NB | [[2.3.0]] |
| 21:12.48 | [NewsBot] | Arcane_NB meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/2.3.0 |
| 21:13.12 | Arcane_NB | http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_2.3.0 |
| 21:13.38 | moveax | Hmmm, doesn'tgive percentages sadly. |
| 21:13.54 | Arcane_NB | apparently they want to speed up the mid game |
| 21:13.55 | Kirkburn | You will stay at the same percentage Arcane_NB |
| 21:14.12 | Arcane_NB | should have stopped with my main earlier, but hell I was having fun |
| 21:14.16 | Kirkburn | (But the XP to finish the level will be less than previously, of course) |
| 21:14.37 | Arcane_NB | IIRC on my main I'm at 13 filled bars at lvl 37 |
| 21:14.48 | Arcane_NB | about to go begging for gold from my guild mates |
| 21:15.18 | Arcane_NB | not even close to the 90g needed for a mount |
| 21:16.01 | moveax | I hope it halves thetime needed to reach 60. |
| 21:16.02 | Kirkburn | Very roughly, it's about 20% less XP per level, and quests are increased by a similar amount |
| 21:16.06 | kadrahil | Silence and Interrupt effects now have diminishing returns when used on PvP targets. |
| 21:16.10 | kadrahil | does that affect silencing shot? |
| 21:16.23 | moveax | probably |
| 21:16.24 | Kirkburn | Would make sense, given the name :P |
| 21:16.29 | moveax | hehe yes |
| 21:16.33 | kadrahil | ;/ |
| 21:16.49 | moveax | I thought the Shaman's interrupt was being nerfed? |
| 21:16.51 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: Realm Restart - Bladefist - 11/12/07 - http://www.wowblues.com/us/realm-restart-bladefist-111207-2856201988.html |
| 21:17.32 | kadrahil | Troll: Bow and Thrown Specialization now increases chance to critically hit with those weapons by 1% rather than increasing weapon skill. |
| 21:17.34 | Arcane_NB | "Earth Shock: Interrupting a channeled spell with this spell will now always properly prevent casting spells from the same spell school for 2 sec." |
| 21:17.35 | kadrahil | argh |
| 21:17.40 | kadrahil | i'm rerolling troll now |
| 21:18.01 | Arcane_NB | they needed to do something to get ppl rolling trolls |
| 21:18.32 | Arcane_NB | 2 characters is enough for me, at least until one of em hits 60(70(80)) |
| 21:18.56 | moveax | Arcane_NB: So it'snot being nerrfed, it's being fixed :/ |
| 21:19.02 | kadrahil | didn't earth shock last 5 seconds? |
| 21:19.07 | Arcane_NB | woo hoo: Lightning Bolt cast time reduced to 2.5 (from 3.0 where applicable), mana costs reduced, benefit from spell damage reduced appropriately. |
| 21:19.14 | Arcane_NB | was always 2 sec |
| 21:19.14 | moveax | I was hoping for a longer cooldown or possibly a longer cast time |
| 21:19.17 | kadrahil | oh |
| 21:19.18 | moveax | 2 seconds, yes |
| 21:19.29 | Arcane_NB | 5 sec cool down |
| 21:19.38 | Arcane_NB | can be reduced to 4 with talents |
| 21:19.43 | Arcane_NB | shared by all shocks |
| 21:19.51 | kadrahil | Gnome: Escape Artist cooldown increased to 1 min, 45 sec. |
| 21:19.54 | kadrahil | .. |
| 21:19.54 | moveax | It's always been 5 seconds hasn'tit? |
| 21:20.02 | Hobinheim|work | Kirkburn, do you have a wii |
| 21:20.04 | Arcane_NB | as long as I've been playing |
| 21:20.08 | Kirkburn | yarr |
| 21:20.10 | Hobinheim|work | everybody, go buy mario galaxy! |
| 21:20.15 | kadrahil | WotF still has a 2 min CD |
| 21:20.17 | moveax | Arcane_NB: Yeah.I believe it's far to overpowered. |
| 21:20.18 | Hobinheim|work | supperrrr rmaaarrrrio galaxy!!! |
| 21:20.21 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 21:20.22 | moveax | Spell caster don't stand a chance. |
| 21:20.29 | Arcane_NB | it only locks out 1 school |
| 21:20.29 | moveax | Hobinheim|work: lol |
| 21:20.43 | moveax | Arcane_NB: yeah, screwing priest up completely |
| 21:20.45 | moveax | or a mage |
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| 21:21.07 | Arcane_NB | say what?! |
| 21:21.09 | moveax | I need to find a good EU PvP realm to start a fresh on. |
| 21:21.12 | kadrahil | so WotF is a tad more powerful than escape artist, making you immune for 5 seconds |
| 21:21.18 | kadrahil | shouldn't they still have the same cooldowns? |
| 21:21.40 | moveax | Arcane_NB: A Priest. Shock his holy school = no healing... and you can keep shocking it over and over. |
| 21:21.53 | moveax | The Priest only has two seconds to cast a heal... and that'sflash heal. |
| 21:21.59 | moveax | On it'll likely have to be on themselves lol |
| 21:22.11 | moveax | add the tremor totem on top of that = no defense |
| 21:22.19 | Arcane_NB | earth shock cannot lock down a school |
| 21:22.30 | moveax | Erm.... |
| 21:22.42 | Arcane_NB | if you're going up against a shaman be ready with spells from multiple schools |
| 21:22.45 | moveax | 2 second interupt... 5 second cooldown,4 with talent? |
| 21:23.11 | Arcane_NB | so it locks out everything but instant casts |
| 21:23.28 | moveax | So, Holy school interupted for two seconds, that leaves, with talents, a 2 second gap between his shock becoming available again and you being able to cast a spell = Flash of Light. |
| 21:23.46 | Arcane_NB | or find another way to fight |
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| 21:23.55 | Cheeseman07 | Hey everybody |
| 21:23.59 | Arcane_NB | high cheeze |
| 21:24.02 | moveax | Holy Priests don't fight, not the one that heal anyway. |
| 21:24.03 | moveax | Cheeseman07: Hi |
| 21:25.00 | moveax | I bought the battlechest, and thank god the game and addon are on dvds |
| 21:25.03 | Arcane_NB | I wonder what will happen to the talent point I dropped into two handed weapons |
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| 21:26.42 | moveax | I bet Shaman gear loks terrible on a troll |
| 21:27.13 | moveax | yeah does :( |
| 21:27.27 | Arcane_NB | hey this is nice for hunters: Untalented firing range of 5-35 yards, eliminating the deadzone. |
| 21:27.35 | moveax | yep |
| 21:27.39 | moveax | no dead zone anymore. |
| 21:27.44 | Arcane_NB | handy |
| 21:28.04 | Arcane_NB | now I just have to build up my gun skill and fire off all the crafted shot I made |
| 21:28.26 | Kirkburn | kadrahil, Escape Artist is only movement impairing effects, not fear effects |
| 21:28.45 | kadrahil | Kirkburn: fear isn't considered movement impairing? |
| 21:28.54 | Kirkburn | No, it's just bloody scary |
| 21:28.58 | kadrahil | hah |
| 21:29.19 | Kirkburn | In seriousness, movement impairing means your *intentional* movement is impaired |
| 21:29.47 | Kirkburn | Fear and sheep, etc, cause unintentional movement impairment |
| 21:30.16 | Kirkburn | I could probably have described that better :P |
| 21:30.21 | Arcane_NB | holy schnikies: "All old world dungeons have had their loot revisited. Players will now find that all loot dropped inside instances will be of Superior (blue) quality. This would effectively increase the availability of Shards and possibly [Nexus Crystals]R ? t a for enchanters restricted to running pre-BC dungeons, and in a trickle-down effect, to the rest of the server population.' |
| 21:30.47 | kadrahil | :o |
| 21:30.54 | Arcane_NB | that can't be right |
| 21:31.00 | kadrahil | well |
| 21:31.13 | Arcane_NB | time to grind SM |
| 21:31.14 | kadrahil | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=5254 |
| 21:31.16 | kadrahil | as an example |
| 21:31.32 | moveax | Arcane_NB: I hope it's right :) |
| 21:31.55 | Arcane_NB | so same as the old stuff but blue so enchanters don't have to go begging for mats any more |
| 21:31.56 | Kirkburn | Why wouldn't it be right?? |
| 21:31.57 | kadrahil | i'm getting a pair of those and making a rogue and mailing them to it before 2.3 ;o |
| 21:32.06 | foxlit | It's bad, tbh |
| 21:32.16 | moveax | I think it will be good. |
| 21:32.19 | foxlit | Dungeons were the easiest way of getting green junk to level enchanting with :P |
| 21:32.28 | kadrahil | they aren't the easiest way now? |
| 21:32.37 | moveax | Well I'm looking at it from a gea point of view, not an enchanting one. |
| 21:32.43 | moveax | gear* |
| 21:32.44 | foxlit | No, seeing as to how green loot gets converted into blue loot |
| 21:32.50 | foxlit | And there's only so much you can do with shards alone |
| 21:32.58 | Kirkburn | Trash mobs still drop greens |
| 21:33.27 | foxlit | Mobs anywhere still drop greens |
| 21:35.01 | foxlit | Shards grow on trees, comparatively |
| 21:36.27 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: A new round of funny guild names - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/11/12/a-new-round-of-funny-guild-names/ |
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| 21:41.00 | moveax | http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/gettingstarted.html |
| 21:41.11 | moveax | I like the way they haven't updated that page to include the new races from TBC :) |
| 21:42.36 | kd3|still`lagged | ownership of the physical media |
| 21:42.36 | kd3|still`lagged | not the account |
| 21:43.30 | moveax | Please refrain was discussing that topic in here, it's against the rules :P |
| 21:44.09 | Sky2042 | huh? |
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| 21:44.43 | kd3|still`lagged | bah, lag. ignore me |
| 21:44.55 | moveax | :P |
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| 21:51.37 | Kirkburn | Sky2042, sup? |
| 21:51.57 | Sky2042 | not the rain |
| 21:52.04 | Sky2042 | >.> |
| 21:52.29 | Sky2042 | gah |
| 21:52.32 | moveax | might be because rain is also subject to the gravitation pull of a celestial object :( |
| 21:53.42 | Kirkburn | Madness |
| 21:55.26 | Kirkburn|sleep | Might be back later, we'll see |
| 21:56.51 | pcj | No |
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| 22:20.43 | moveax | Anyone here EU based who can recommend a good PvP realm? |
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| 22:24.10 | IrW | Buenas noches algun espaol por aqui |
| 22:24.51 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: Lol Zul'Aman - http://www.wowblues.com/us/lol-zulaman-2856220513.html |
| 22:25.37 | IrW | Algun espaol por aqui |
| 22:26.22 | IrW | que me pueda echar una mano con la coneccion al server para jugar |
| 22:26.49 | kadrahil | This is an english speaking channel |
| 22:26.53 | IrW | El ingles no es mi fuerte y no me aclaro |
| 22:32.27 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Patch 2.3 will ruin the game and destroy Azeroth - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/11/12/patch-2-3-will-ruin-the-game-and-destroy-azeroth/ |
| 22:32.51 | moveax | hah |
| 22:32.54 | moveax | Perhaps. |
| 22:35.52 | kd3|still`lagged | damn it! of course firefox has to crash right as I'm about to submit a bunch of changes |
| 22:36.27 | moveax | Opern it up again and resume the session |
| 22:36.36 | moveax | mind you, the fields will most likelynot be populated :P |
| 22:43.16 | pcj | !jobqueue |
| 22:43.18 | [NewsBot] | The www.wowwiki.com job queue length is currently 8 doing ~1 job/s, done in approx. 8secs. |
| 22:51.11 | moveax | kd3|still`lagged: manage to get that form filled in? :P |
| 22:51.33 | kd3|still`lagged | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Patch_2.3.0&diff=977454&oldid=977423 |
| 22:53.56 | moveax | awesome |
| 22:54.03 | moveax | Anyone here got an active level 70 WArrior? |
| 22:54.12 | moveax | I'm considering leveling one for pvp |
| 23:06.35 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Garona_Halforcen#Parentage |
| 23:06.47 | Bagginsww | added a new section for info in Tides of Darkness |
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| 23:08.52 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: Wowarmory.com - http://www.wowblues.com/us/wowarmorycom-2041162461.html |
| 23:09.34 | moveax | Do warriors gain rage when they'rehit in combat as well as through attackign themselves? |
| 23:12.52 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: Taurahe Love - http://www.wowblues.com/us/taurahe-love-2856222224.html |
| 23:18.17 | moveax | Ah lucky I had a level 17 Warrior on another realm ready to transfer. Saves me a lot of work and brings me that little bit closer to level 20 ready for 2.3patch. |
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| 23:20.51 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: Lorinall stop spamming - http://www.wowblues.com/us/lorinall-stop-spamming-2856022154.html |
| 23:24.54 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: Let me get this straight... - http://www.wowblues.com/us/let-me-get-this-straight-2856012178.html |
| 23:28.55 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: So now that healers can DPS... - http://www.wowblues.com/us/so-now-that-healers-can-dps-2856021903.html |
| 23:32.51 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: The damning truth about Blizzard's policies - http://www.wowblues.com/us/the-damning-truth-about-blizzards-policies-2855962271.html |
| 23:32.58 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: [Feedback] 1-60 5 days 5 hours PTR - http://www.wowblues.com/us/feedback-160-5-days-5-hours-ptr-2855990384.html |
| 23:33.03 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: Playing WoW at work - http://www.wowblues.com/us/playing-wow-at-work-2856222249.html |
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| 23:38.55 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: 2.3 tomorrow: yes or no - http://www.wowblues.com/us/23-tomorrow-yes-or-no-2855992415.html |
| 23:40.08 | kd3|still`lagged | hate... |
| 23:44.52 | [NewsBot] | WoWBlues: Website typo..?? - http://www.wowblues.com/us/website-typo-2856012177.html |
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