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| 00:54.22 | pcj | ok |
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| 02:01.13 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Orc#Slavery |
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| 02:07.36 | Bagginsww | zeal |
| 02:07.47 | Bagginsww | here is a line from warcraft 3 manual |
| 02:07.49 | Bagginsww | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:08.11 | Bagginsww | read that one from one view it imply he dispised slavery and did away with it |
| 02:08.27 | Bagginsww | read it from another view, slavery is only ok as long as it isn't from humans or demons :p |
| 02:11.07 | Zeal | lol |
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| 02:23.13 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Broll_Bearmantle |
| 02:23.22 | Bagginsww | someone actually had him listed as "alliance" |
| 02:23.23 | Bagginsww | lol |
| 02:23.30 | Bagginsww | at least right now he's a slave ;p |
| 02:23.40 | Bagginsww | he has no allegience ;p |
| 02:24.14 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Valeera_Sanguinar |
| 02:24.17 | Bagginsww | eh the same problem there |
| 02:24.32 | Bagginsww | she's a slave she can't have "silvermoon" affiliation :p |
| 02:24.34 | Bagginsww | yet |
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| 02:39.45 | Zeal | lol |
| 02:40.01 | Zeal | people just looked at their race and assumed i guess. |
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| 02:40.46 | Zeal | hm.. might bother to learn XSL |
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| 03:20.25 | Zeal | hm.. had a feeling i had my work cut out for me here.. http://www.xfront.com/isbn.xsd |
| 03:22.18 | Zeal | problem is, that's ISBN10, not ISBN13 : / |
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| 03:27.17 | Onca | Anybody home? I see lots of names but not much text floating by... |
| 03:28.32 | Onca | Any site admins on? I'm having a problem. |
| 03:29.05 | Zeal | hehe |
| 03:29.06 | Onca | Thanks for the assist ;) |
| 03:29.26 | pcj | well what's your problem |
| 03:30.12 | Onca | Can't get the email confirmation to work. I've tried a half dozen times over the last month. |
| 03:31.10 | pcj | Have you tried a different e-mail address? |
| 03:31.46 | Onca | Hmm, didn't think of that. So maybe I should set up a yahoo account or something? |
| 03:32.10 | Zeal | it's a realy pain in the ass when you discover one mail server doesn't like yours : / |
| 03:32.40 | pcj | Try it onca |
| 03:32.53 | Onca | Ok, I'll give it a spin. Be back in a few. |
| 03:33.16 | Zeal | rather unreasonable to ask people make new mail accounts, but if you can sort out the issue between mail servers, then it's the only way : / |
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| 03:33.33 | Zeal | *can't sort |
| 03:35.41 | Zeal | screw trying to validate isbn's in their block form.. just validate as a fixed length integer. |
| 03:36.01 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/History_of_Warcraft |
| 03:36.06 | Bagginsww | zeal I thought that needed an update :) |
| 03:36.17 | Bagginsww | There is the history of warcraft, and there is the history of warcraft :) |
| 03:36.40 | Zeal | lol |
| 03:37.00 | Bagginsww | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/story/index.html#lore |
| 03:37.06 | Bagginsww | but ya all of that is the history of warcraft |
| 03:37.14 | Zeal | it begs the question, is soemthing like the way back machine ok under fair use? lol |
| 03:37.30 | Bagginsww | probalby not |
| 03:37.37 | Onca | Ok, worked on a different email server. Thanks for the assist :) |
| 03:37.51 | Zeal | glad you got round it onca. |
| 03:38.06 | Onca | Have a great evening everyone. |
| 03:39.33 | Bagginsww | but ya zeal wayback is keeping direct copies |
| 03:39.40 | Bagginsww | of older released material |
| 03:39.47 | Zeal | mhm |
| 03:39.49 | Bagginsww | as replacements to those old sites |
| 03:39.54 | Bagginsww | so ya probably not fair use |
| 03:40.18 | Zeal | yet i think it should be if it's not ;) |
| 03:41.35 | Bagginsww | heh |
| 03:44.25 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/History_of_Warcraft#Timeline |
| 03:44.29 | Bagginsww | added that section |
| 03:44.51 | Zeal | cool |
| 03:46.40 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Kael%27thas_Sunstrider#Image |
| 03:46.44 | Zeal | dammit, didn't realise the reason for ISBN13. wonder if there's a policy on which one wikipedia enforces.. : / gunna have to go record all the ISBN13 numbers too now. |
| 03:49.26 | Zeal | ooo, hadn't seen that artwork, pwn. |
| 03:51.24 | Bagginsww | I odn't even know what ISBN13 is |
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| 03:52.33 | Zeal | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isbn |
| 03:55.42 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Warcraft_Universe |
| 03:55.46 | Bagginsww | added a bit to the first line |
| 03:56.16 | Bagginsww | The Warcraft Universe (aka History of Warcraft) is the game world, history, and lore created by Blizzard Entertainment, Inc. that began with the seminal title, Warcraft: Orcs & Humans. |
| 03:57.28 | Zeal | "aka History of Warcraft" ? |
| 03:57.59 | Zeal | wouldn't it be more like "see [[History of Warcraft]]" ? |
| 03:58.23 | Bagginsww | The history of Warcraft is supposed to be the totality of all published sources :p |
| 03:58.30 | Bagginsww | although that site isn't updated much :p |
| 03:58.55 | Bagginsww | I don't think the HIstory of Warcraft actually uses the term "Warcraft Universe" |
| 04:00.43 | Zeal | yeah, but what i mean is it's not what the "Warcraft Universe" is, it's just a list of sources for learning about it, or alternatively, a list of products and information based on it. |
| 04:01.43 | Zeal | oo, online isbn 10-13 conveter, makes my job easier :) |
| 04:02.03 | Zeal | didn't fancy sifting through multiple publisher sites again. |
| 04:02.40 | Zeal | for now though, i have to write 230 xml entries,for all the chapters :p |
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| 04:11.01 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Valeera_Sanguinar |
| 04:13.03 | Zeal | you love him really Bagginsww, keeps you on your toes ;) rofl |
| 04:13.09 | Bagginsww | lol |
| 04:13.35 | Bagginsww | ya he's on his way to being banned for 6 months ;) Well only if he edits the wrong pages, in the wrong away again like before. |
| 04:14.35 | Zeal | tbh, i'd just put "Horde, Crimsong Ring" screw the slave part, already in her occupation. |
| 04:14.58 | Zeal | affiliations don't have to be direct, so no need for the slave disclaimer imo. |
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| 04:33.35 | Bagginsww | so if you block someone they can type in their talk pages now? |
| 04:34.29 | Zeal | hm? |
| 04:34.40 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Manatsum&action=history |
| 04:34.44 | Bagginsww | I blocked him earlier |
| 04:34.56 | Bagginsww | and he just posted using that account |
| 04:35.17 | pcj | Yes, baggins |
| 04:35.32 | Bagginsww | that's handy |
| 04:35.51 | Zeal | aye, makes sense so they can defend themselves if need be. |
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| 04:35.54 | Bagginsww | ya |
| 04:36.32 | Zeal | but do they know that? :P |
| 04:38.35 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Manatsum#Lord_Admiral_Daelin_Proudmoore |
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| 04:53.31 | Kirkburn | Ah yes, something that we should probably advertise, is being able to edit your own talk page after bans |
| 04:54.29 | pcj | I'll put it in my {{welcome}} message |
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| 04:56.37 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowwiki.com/MediaWiki:Blockedtext <-- it's mentioned on there now |
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| 04:58.37 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Sky-engine |
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| 05:05.14 | Zeal | "..which can interfere with some aspects of Wikipedia's vandalism-management process." ;) |
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| 05:11.38 | ChumPPy | Anyone else having connection / login issues tonight? |
| 05:11.46 | quamaretto | Yes. |
| 05:11.47 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Flying_machine that needs to be gallerized |
| 05:11.55 | Bagginsww | it looks horrible on widescreen |
| 05:12.30 | Zeal | looks horrible period |
| 05:12.32 | Zeal | :p |
| 05:12.40 | quamaretto | Check out http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/realmstatus/ |
| 05:12.51 | ChumPPy | I would if it would come up! LoL |
| 05:12.54 | Bagginsww | zeal I can only judge from a widescreen :) |
| 05:13.03 | ChumPPy | I get a 404 |
| 05:13.05 | quamaretto | it came up for me, with NO REALMS showing |
| 05:13.21 | ChumPPy | LoL.. this dowtime from blizz is so old |
| 05:13.24 | quamaretto | ...maybe they're deleting all the realms and starting over :3 |
| 05:13.32 | ChumPPy | hmmm |
| 05:13.38 | quamaretto | You know, to keep the 70s from getting cocky |
| 05:13.48 | Zeal | hehe. 14 chapters down, 216 to go! x_x |
| 05:14.03 | ChumPPy | thats why i'm pssd.. trying to get to 70.. lol had a group ready to run |
| 05:14.32 | ChumPPy | fyi.. just tried again and it let me in |
| 05:14.37 | ChumPPy | 1hr later.. ;) |
| 05:14.49 | quamaretto | Oh well, I'm out of rest anyhow. |
| 05:16.57 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Flying_machine |
| 05:17.02 | Bagginsww | how is that? |
| 05:18.13 | kd3|lagged | screw this lag. I'm stopping 2.3 editing after doing items |
| 05:18.25 | quamaretto | Now do http://www.wowwiki.com/Alamo :P |
| 05:34.43 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Flying_machine |
| 05:34.47 | Bagginsww | cleaned up |
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| 05:34.53 | Bagginsww | I made whirligig its own article |
| 05:35.21 | Bagginsww | as the "gnomish helicopter" is definitely supposed to be an invention of the second war, and whirligig's predate it |
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| 06:11.21 | Zeal | 50 chapters down.. |
| 06:12.57 | Bagginsww | LOL someone took "lightbringer" off a list of elven names |
| 06:13.03 | Bagginsww | assuming it related to uther. |
| 06:13.03 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:TM41#Lightbringer |
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| 06:15.00 | Zeal | lol |
| 06:15.44 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=High_elf&diff=973951&oldid=973928 |
| 06:15.55 | Bagginsww | you'll note there was nothing whatsoever connecting it to uther |
| 06:17.46 | Zeal | i know |
| 06:20.28 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:TM41#Lightbringer |
| 06:20.30 | Bagginsww | what an idiot |
| 06:20.35 | Bagginsww | now he's claiming it wasn't a quote |
| 06:24.28 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:TM41 |
| 06:34.44 | Zeal | lol, just noticed this on wikipedia.. "The capitalization on the common names of species has been hotly debated in the past and has remained unresolved. As a matter of truce both capitalized and non-capitalized (except for proper names) are acceptable, but a redirect should be created from the alternative form." :p |
| 06:36.02 | Kirkburn | wahey |
| 06:36.31 | Kirkburn | Fortunately we have source material to follow, at least |
| 06:37.07 | Kirkburn | We may need a page listing the variations though, since Vrykul appears to be capitalised |
| 06:38.52 | Zeal | lol |
| 06:41.05 | Bagginsww | huh zeal? |
| 06:41.16 | Bagginsww | we usually just decap |
| 06:43.42 | Zeal | from reading further, wikipedia just said "screw it, you/we can't decide one way or the other, so we will let each wikipedia project decide their own rules" and thus some are and some arn't depending what project that article falls under :P |
| 06:44.32 | Zeal | hm.. "do" and "for" are they capitalized in titles? i forget :S |
| 06:46.13 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:TM41 lol |
| 06:46.37 | Bagginsww | Zeal if it was capitalized in a quoation I usually just leave it capitalized |
| 06:46.44 | Bagginsww | an official quotation I mean |
| 06:47.57 | Zeal | well many of the titles i'm using are in all cap fonts ;) |
| 06:50.14 | Bagginsww | another thing that bugs me in naming convention for characther names |
| 06:50.22 | Bagginsww | by policy we are supposed to use full names but no titles |
| 06:50.30 | Bagginsww | but if you did that to Uther |
| 06:50.33 | Bagginsww | you'd only have Uther |
| 06:50.36 | Bagginsww | and it would be rather boring |
| 06:51.01 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Policy/Naming#Character_Articles |
| 06:51.08 | Bagginsww | its also kind of outedated |
| 06:51.17 | Bagginsww | as it uses Uther Lightbringer as an example Lawl |
| 06:53.30 | bleeter | well, wowwiki is a rather boring website, so boring names shouldn't be a problem! :P |
| 06:53.48 | Zeal | /signed ;) |
| 06:55.35 | Zeal | lol, love normal's second comment :P |
| 06:56.03 | Bagginsww | ya |
| 06:56.23 | Zeal | if in doubt, blame ninja edits :P |
| 06:56.49 | Bagginsww | this is almost as bad as when theron tried to say Lightbringer was a name and "The Lightbringer" was wrong because of "Shal Lightbringer" |
| 06:57.00 | Bagginsww | but it turned out that it was "Shal Lightbinder" |
| 06:57.02 | bleeter | normal's a tool |
| 06:59.00 | Zeal | lol |
| 06:59.52 | Zeal | this is gunna take me forever, but it must be done! |
| 07:00.15 | bleeter | damn, he called Normal aggressive too! |
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| 07:02.50 | Bagginsww | lol |
| 07:03.47 | Bagginsww | actually technically all orc last names ar etitles lawl |
| 07:03.57 | Bagginsww | they don't have true surnames |
| 07:04.12 | Bagginsww | we really need to reword that naming policy |
| 07:04.25 | Bagginsww | Most orcish names derive from words in their language that have some complex meaning or hidden significance to their families. Typically, this is the name of a favorite thing or relative. Family names don't exist; most orcs have last names related to some great deed of heroism or honor. However, in the case of truly incredible deeds, an orc might take on the last name of his father to ensure that the chronicle of that terrific dee |
| 07:04.26 | Bagginsww | d lives on.APG 46 |
| 07:05.53 | bleeter | yup |
| 07:06.08 | bleeter | isn't it a similar thing for space goats? no real last name? |
| 07:08.04 | Zeal | lol |
| 07:08.30 | Zeal | hm.. apparently it's "Do" and "for" for title case. |
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| 07:12.04 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Policy/Naming#Character_Articles |
| 07:12.09 | Bagginsww | what do you think? |
| 07:12.26 | Bagginsww | I don't see adding titles to someone like Deathwing that has a dozen or so |
| 07:14.14 | Zeal | http://www.wowwiki.com/Kazzak_the_Supreme ? :S |
| 07:14.25 | Bagginsww | Its his name in the RPG |
| 07:14.30 | Zeal | isn't "the Supreme" a title? |
| 07:14.41 | Bagginsww | yes |
| 07:14.51 | Bagginsww | so is the Lightbringer |
| 07:15.28 | Zeal | But he wasn;t known as Kazzak Supreme, was he? |
| 07:15.30 | Bagginsww | the question is how much do we want to nitpick this? |
| 07:15.49 | Zeal | nitpick to death! [[Uther]] ftpresident ;) |
| 07:15.53 | Bagginsww | lol |
| 07:16.38 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Gavinrad_the_Dire heh heh |
| 07:16.39 | Zeal | could also look at, when does a title become a surname? |
| 07:16.55 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Ballador_the_Bright |
| 07:17.05 | Bagginsww | well Hellscream is not a surname |
| 07:17.08 | Zeal | i mean, if someone took on a title, but evnetually that title has passed down through their family as a surname instead. |
| 07:17.08 | Bagginsww | even though his son took it on |
| 07:17.13 | Zeal | exactly |
| 07:17.24 | Zeal | it's those sorta ones which i would make an except |
| 07:17.36 | Zeal | *exception |
| 07:17.49 | Bagginsww | we could strip all orc last names ;) |
| 07:17.59 | Bagginsww | as they are not surnames |
| 07:18.02 | Bagginsww | but titles |
| 07:18.21 | Zeal | well that's why i said those that have become used as surnames can stay :p |
| 07:18.30 | Bagginsww | actually I think it only really causes a problem when a character has more than one title they commonly go by |
| 07:18.36 | Zeal | but "the <title>" is just silly imo. |
| 07:18.44 | Zeal | aye |
| 07:18.46 | Bagginsww | zeal the issue is we don't know how many orcs have "semi-surnames" |
| 07:19.27 | Bagginsww | you read the above quote right even if a son takes on the title last name its apparently still not a "family name" |
| 07:19.36 | Bagginsww | in orc society I mean |
| 07:21.25 | Zeal | [[Doom Lord Kazzak the Supreme, Burning Legion Field Commander, , Opener of the Dark Portal, Right Hand Lieutenant of Kil'jaeden, Lord of Doomgaurd Demons]] |
| 07:21.26 | [NewsBot] | Zeal meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Doom_Lord_Kazzak_the_Supreme,_Burning_Legion_Field_Commander,_,_Opener_of_the_Dark_Portal,_Right_Hand_Lieutenant_of_Kil'jaeden,_Lord_of_Doomgaurd_Demons |
| 07:21.31 | Zeal | gogo newsbot, lol |
| 07:21.49 | Bagginsww | heh heh |
| 07:22.35 | Zeal | i know it's still not a family name |
| 07:23.00 | Zeal | but when they start adopting the use of family names into their culture, for the wiki's purposes, it may as well be. |
| 07:23.33 | Zeal | but you just then ask the question, does it really matter in any case other than disambigs? |
| 07:24.28 | Zeal | Uther the Lightbringer meet Uther the Big Hair One |
| 07:24.37 | Zeal | *hairy |
| 07:24.40 | Zeal | or w/e meh.. |
| 07:24.57 | Zeal | distracting my chapter listing! |
| 07:25.06 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Buzan_the_Fearless |
| 07:25.11 | Bagginsww | changed that the lore was bad |
| 07:25.26 | Bagginsww | but the fact he is a unique toybox npc is interesting |
| 07:26.09 | Zeal | toybox? |
| 07:26.26 | Bagginsww | toybox the term for all the stuff you assign to a map |
| 07:26.31 | Bagginsww | in the level editor |
| 07:27.33 | Zeal | never ehard that term when i was editing, but kk. |
| 07:27.35 | Zeal | *heard |
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| 07:31.26 | Zeal | hm.. missing scan for one of the chapters :s |
| 07:45.50 | Zeal | 80 down, 150 to go.. *sigh* |
| 07:49.39 | Zeal | this is why i need a real XML editor.. |
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| 07:52.00 | bleeter | something more than notepad++ ? |
| 07:58.02 | Zeal | yes |
| 07:58.38 | Zeal | painful doing large xmlfiles in that, and there's no schema validation and knowledge of what it's doing with the xml. |
| 07:58.56 | Zeal | Oxygen looks pwn, but i'm not paying for it : / |
| 07:59.04 | Zeal | Liquid i've tried, and it's awful. |
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| 07:59.49 | bleeter | I thought there was some FF addon that can do the validation foo.. XML toolbar or something.. /shrug, dunno really, ain't done much XML ;) |
| 08:01.01 | Zeal | i don't use firefox as a browser though ;) |
| 08:01.06 | Daworm | you should |
| 08:01.13 | Zeal | no ty. |
| 08:01.14 | Daworm | don't ask why .. you just .. should. |
| 08:02.10 | Zeal | Gotta love when you have an account on website, but the it says your detail a wrong and then you never get the email for new details you asked for so can't register again using your email.. |
| 08:02.15 | Zeal | *then |
| 08:03.06 | Zeal | paypal did it on my fathers account, eventually it claimed no account existed, but still to this day i get email for my dad from paypal. and now ebuyer.. |
| 08:04.59 | bleeter | firefox should be in every dev's toolbox, merely for firebug, webdev etc. addons |
| 08:05.10 | bleeter | even if they don't like it as a browser |
| 08:05.41 | Zeal | i don't do any developement in firefox anyways. |
| 08:06.02 | Zeal | i write to spec, if any browser complains, i work around it. |
| 08:06.15 | Zeal | and yes, firefox doe do alot of stuff against spec, it's just not as well known. |
| 08:06.21 | Zeal | *does |
| 08:07.27 | Zeal | 2 more volumes and i give i'm taking a break for today: / |
| 08:08.18 | bleeter | I know FF does stuff against spec, never said it did. Was merely trying to indicate that there's a number of tools that are damned handy in FF. |
| 08:08.29 | bleeter | 2 volumes? what are you doing? |
| 08:09.58 | Zeal | transfering all info about several publications of a manga series into xml |
| 08:14.07 | Zeal | oh that's just great, lovely bs there.. ebuyer only do "Next day delivery" on fridays.. any other day, the earliest is 3 working days. |
| 08:15.01 | Zeal | so let's count saturday, sunday, monday. strange how that's 3 days and you 2 of them are working days for you.. -_- |
| 08:15.13 | Zeal | *-you |
| 08:16.00 | Zeal | apparently not allowed to read the page of options on how to reocver my account for an hour, because i already chose option 1.. an email. |
| 08:16.27 | Zeal | great thanks, now i have to wait an hour to knwo your phone number or asnwer my secret question.. |
| 08:16.49 | Zeal | do monkey's code these sites? : / |
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| 08:23.47 | Zeal | 90 chapters, 15 volumes. i'm out. nn all |
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| 08:33.52 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Nicholas_Buzan |
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| 10:38.58 | Voluspa | Hihi! |
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| 10:52.00 | Kirkburn | Argh, there's a Episode Two achievement of "send the gnome into space" |
| 10:52.53 | Kirkburn | Which basically requires the transportation of a gnome most of the way through the game :/ |
| 10:53.32 | Voluspa | Ok... |
| 10:53.55 | Voluspa | What's Episode Two? |
| 10:54.25 | Fisker- | i figured |
| 10:54.35 | Fisker- | only in norway would someone not know Episode Two |
| 10:55.33 | Voluspa | Oh, it's Half Life! |
| 10:55.48 | Voluspa | Well. I'm not really into this gaming stuff |
| 10:56.31 | Voluspa | Remove your Spine! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7RlblZTOj8&NR=1 |
| 10:59.28 | Voluspa | Does anyone here have skin problems, bad hair or generally just look horrible? |
| 11:09.14 | Kirkburn | ^ 3 lines that make no sense whatsoever in relation to this channel |
| 11:12.37 | Voluspa | Yes, it does! Because I have found a solution to all your problems! |
| 11:12.47 | Voluspa | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCHc1G7vdNg&NR=1 |
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| 11:37.22 | Bagginsww | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:37.43 | Bagginsww | but I just checked out a draenei paladin, and he's referred to as a paladin from the start. |
| 11:37.48 | Bagginsww | by quest givers |
| 11:38.28 | Bagginsww | maybe if its like the blood elves, the joain the ranks of the vindicators at some during the game? |
| 11:40.58 | foxlit | Kaso: http://foxlit.pastey.net/76957 |
| 11:41.31 | Kaso | O.o |
| 11:44.48 | foxlit | I'm probably going to hate myself for writing it in a few weeks |
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| 11:52.59 | Kirkburn | Since when is it spelt "invokation" |
| 11:53.33 | Kirkburn | Silly German spellings |
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| 11:57.15 | Fisker- | grab it! |
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| 12:45.31 | |Pixel| | hm ? |
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| 13:10.50 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Breakfast Topic: Your doppleganger - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/11/11/breakfast-topic-your-doppleganger/ |
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| 13:26.01 | Ragowit | Someone who knows if there exist an addon that check what kind of plans you have as a Blacksmith and then give you back a result what plans you miss? |
| 13:26.14 | Ragowit | Or patterns, or recipes.. depending on your profession |
| 13:27.26 | Marlamin | You mean Recipe Radar? |
| 13:28.21 | Ragowit | You tell me |
| 13:28.23 | Ragowit | Will check it out |
| 13:28.51 | Marlamin | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/2955/ |
| 13:29.30 | Ragowit | Looks promising, thanks! |
| 13:29.52 | Marlamin | No Problem. :) |
| 13:41.49 | Kirkburn | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:43.19 | pcj | heh |
| 13:49.01 | Kirkburn | Yay, found him this time :P |
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| 14:29.23 | Fisker- | alert mr. Kirkburn |
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| 16:53.46 | moveax | What's the Horde's "base" in the burning steppes? |
| 16:54.36 | _dreamss | flamecrest is neutral for both, no horde base |
| 16:54.48 | Wulf_ | there's the horde flight master |
| 16:55.04 | Wulf_ | and some other npc selling .. whatever |
| 16:55.21 | moveax | coords? |
| 16:55.33 | Wulf_ | in the north, about center |
| 16:55.41 | moveax | okies |
| 16:56.06 | moveax | damn i need to level one level to go through into the outlands |
| 16:56.16 | Wulf_ | get some warlock to port you there |
| 16:56.35 | Wulf_ | or maybe some mage, but dunno if this works |
| 16:56.49 | moveax | i'm a warlock heh and yeah i think it does |
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| 17:00.58 | moveax | where should I level, burning steppes is too low :/ |
| 17:01.17 | Wulf_ | silithus |
| 17:01.28 | Wulf_ | or visit some dungeons |
| 17:01.42 | Wulf_ | eastern plaguelands should do too |
| 17:01.59 | moveax | yeah did most of the epl quests |
| 17:02.20 | Wulf_ | there are lots more in silithus, fine for lvl57(?) |
| 17:04.20 | moveax | let's find out :) |
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| 17:15.32 | Kirkburn | And Winterspring |
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| 17:33.45 | Kirkburn | cladhaire, rowing? |
| 17:33.57 | Kirkburn | How very Oxfordian of you :) |
| 17:35.17 | cladhaire | lol |
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| 17:53.26 | Happy_Gnome | hello guys i cannot run wow from linux, i happened to follow your guide |
| 17:53.35 | Happy_Gnome | http://www.pastebin.ca/769783 |
| 17:53.42 | Kaso | is this some mistake http://www.wowwiki.com/Skunk the mini critter image is showing in the infobox |
| 17:53.54 | Wulf_ | Happy_Gnome: what exactly doesn't work? |
| 17:54.03 | Happy_Gnome | Wine wow.exe |
| 17:54.09 | Happy_Gnome | this is the error i get from pastebin |
| 17:54.23 | Happy_Gnome | wine wow.exe -opengl or wine wow.exe -d3d |
| 17:55.13 | Kaso | pastebin.ca seems to hate me for some reason. never works |
| 17:55.22 | Wulf_ | Happy_Gnome: do other windoze programs work with this wine? |
| 17:55.35 | Happy_Gnome | only a few that i know of |
| 17:55.45 | Happy_Gnome | such as installing wow.exe which is bittorrent from offical website |
| 17:55.46 | Wulf_ | have you tried yourself? |
| 17:56.17 | Wulf_ | try sol.exe or just something simple |
| 17:56.33 | Happy_Gnome | what is sol.exe and wait here |
| 17:56.50 | Happy_Gnome | " /dev/sdb1 /windows/D ntfs-3g defaults 0 0" |
| 17:56.55 | Happy_Gnome | this is from stab i talked to winehq |
| 17:57.12 | Happy_Gnome | winehq said that dont use ntfs for wine seconds ago |
| 17:57.25 | Wulf_ | this I'd recommend too |
| 17:57.41 | Happy_Gnome | so what drive should i use besides ntfs |
| 17:58.51 | Wulf_ | use ext3 or maybe vfat |
| 18:02.27 | Happy_Gnome | wulf im switching it |
| 18:02.32 | Happy_Gnome | moving the folder to exec |
| 18:03.07 | Happy_Gnome | i mean ext3 if its not the problem then its not the drives problem either, one more thing, however I need to learn how to import registry to wine im gonna look that up |
| 18:03.28 | Kirkburn | bleeter, ping for this convo ^ |
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| 18:04.12 | Happy_Gnome | lol 6gb to move from one location to another takes long lol |
| 18:06.50 | Happy_Gnome | got it working ntfs is not compatible with wine |
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| 18:49.31 | moveax | Can anyone name two places to level at 40, alliance. |
| 18:50.28 | Wulf_ | moveax: stranglethorn, dustwhallow marshes, tanaris/badlands |
| 18:50.28 | Wulf_ | moveax: try badlands |
| 18:50.28 | moveax | badlands could be intersting, yeah |
| 18:52.45 | Fisker- | because of you Chompers |
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| 19:00.12 | bleeter_ | Kirkburn: nah, that kinda hardcore crash should be taken to #winehq directly |
| 19:00.27 | bleeter_ | Kirkburn: I should prolly do some editing of the Wine page this week ;) |
| 19:00.48 | moveax | any of you play wow under wine? |
| 19:01.04 | Wulf_ | I once did |
| 19:02.50 | moveax | Allies have abase in the badlands? |
| 19:02.53 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: "Feast of Winter Veil" collector's set available now - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/11/11/feast-of-winter-veil-collectors-set-available-now/ |
| 19:03.00 | Kirkburn | Er, bleeter does moveax |
| 19:03.01 | Wulf_ | moveax: they have not |
| 19:03.11 | Wulf_ | moveax: next one is in loch modan, thelsemar |
| 19:03.31 | Kirkburn | The Loch quarry is sort of one |
| 19:07.40 | moveax | Kirkburn: does he get good fps, do you knoe? |
| 19:07.42 | moveax | know |
| 19:07.48 | Kirkburn | Ask him :P |
| 19:07.56 | Kirkburn | (But I think so) |
| 19:08.17 | moveax | well I assumedhe wouldn't be active seeing as your triggered his nick and got no response |
| 19:08.29 | Fisker- | oh hi |
| 19:08.37 | moveax | bleeter: WAKE UP! Do you get good FPS on Linux when playing WoW via Wine? |
| 19:09.07 | Wulf_ | moveax: some years ago FPS was better in windoze. but since then the graphics drivers got better |
| 19:09.26 | moveax | Well I get 60FPS in WoW under Vista. |
| 19:09.32 | moveax | 1280x1024 |
| 19:10.04 | moveax | If can get at least 40 in Linux, I'd consider going back. |
| 19:10.58 | bleeter | s/data/info/ |
| 19:11.13 | moveax | I never requested anything of you ;) |
| 19:11.39 | moveax | And if you can't giveme an average FPS from your client, you have problems :) |
| 19:11.57 | bleeter | it's not the sort of thing I go out of my way to note down |
| 19:12.11 | bleeter | as I only ever play in Win32 on my lappy, which is about once a week |
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| 19:46.43 | Sandwichman2448 | Baggins, is that cite sitll not working right? |
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| 20:45.43 | Bagginsww | sweet almost to page 6 of 7 of my research paper. |
| 20:46.11 | Bagginsww | still have plenty to cover, so I'm not going to run out material to discuss |
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| 21:09.01 | Bagginsww | I don't know I was thinking it might actually be useful to split outland and draenor. One discussing material specific to events leading up to its distruction, and events after it became outland. It allow both pages to have more detail while also preventing bloating. |
| 21:11.44 | Sandwichman2448 | They were merged at one point. |
| 21:13.11 | Zeal | don't see it as needing to be split really, no real benefit, but no real loss either. |
| 21:13.56 | Zeal | thought i do have a suggest. make [[Outlands]] go to the bookkeeper's rant about the name :p |
| 21:14.29 | Bagginsww | Lawl |
| 21:14.46 | Bagginsww | Outlands is an official informal name, ;) |
| 21:15.04 | Bagginsww | by npcs that don't any better heh heh |
| 21:15.11 | Zeal | indeed, lol |
| 21:15.12 | bleeter | as opposed to Outland being the official formal one? |
| 21:15.24 | Bagginsww | well some still call it Draenor |
| 21:15.30 | Bagginsww | Outland is kinda of informal too |
| 21:15.42 | Zeal | indeed |
| 21:15.50 | Zeal | Draenor would be the formal one. |
| 21:16.04 | bleeter | coulda sworn I saw a blue post, or similar, insisting it was Outland, not Outlands or The Outland or The Outlands.. /shrug |
| 21:16.16 | bleeter | tho wtf do blues know ;) |
| 21:16.42 | Zeal | they're right |
| 21:16.48 | Zeal | npc's arn't :p |
| 21:17.08 | Bagginsww | ya there is that pirate guy in Theramore that cals it Outlands LOL |
| 21:17.20 | bleeter | idiot |
| 21:17.36 | Bagginsww | and I don't think its a typo |
| 21:17.40 | Bagginsww | I think it was intentional |
| 21:18.54 | Bagginsww | that is the only example of an alternate name that I can think of. |
| 21:19.03 | Bagginsww | rpg was always consistent as far as I know |
| 21:19.31 | Bagginsww | although there may be more than one outland, ;) |
| 21:19.41 | Bagginsww | Shadows and Light hints at the possibility |
| 21:19.49 | Bagginsww | in which case you would have "outlands" :p |
| 21:22.59 | Sandwichman2448 | In that case (if more are added) the article should be pluralized and Draenor should be one of them. |
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| 21:23.08 | Sandwichman2448 | like a list |
| 21:23.38 | Sandwichman2448 | Can you make the cites work on [[Sky-engine]]? |
| 21:23.50 | Sandwichman2448 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Sky-engine |
| 21:24.54 | Bagginsww | true you could create two articles LOL |
| 21:25.10 | Bagginsww | sandwich when I have the time :p |
| 21:25.18 | Bagginsww | working my paper now LOL |
| 21:25.32 | Zeal | does the cow level count as an "Outlands" :p |
| 21:25.34 | Zeal | *? |
| 21:25.37 | Sandwichman2448 | No. |
| 21:25.49 | Zeal | lol |
| 21:25.53 | Bagginsww | There is no spoon or cows |
| 21:26.59 | Bagginsww | Wonders if I should create the "second Outland" article ;) |
| 21:27.38 | Zeal | until there is any other Outlands, i wouldn't bother. |
| 21:27.41 | Sandwichman2448 | Is there one? |
| 21:27.49 | Zeal | perhaps a small note in the Outland article. |
| 21:28.02 | Bagginsww | there is one in an adventure seed story LOL |
| 21:28.20 | Zeal | hm? |
| 21:28.29 | Sandwichman2448 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image_talk:Nightelves-800x.jpg LOL |
| 21:28.34 | Bagginsww | dubious canoncity value, but a source of lore none the less |
| 21:29.55 | Zeal | "turunder" and "malfurinie" :p |
| 21:29.56 | Zeal | lol |
| 21:30.11 | Bagginsww | Power magic destroyed a planet, which suffered a fame similar to Draenor. The chunks of rock left behind could become a second Outland, and demons, Illidan's forces, and the planet's original inhabitants, and interplanar heroes all attempted to gain control of the new resource. |
| 21:30.16 | Bagginsww | *Powerful |
| 21:30.21 | Bagginsww | *fate |
| 21:31.13 | Sandwichman2448 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:Flying_Machines |
| 21:32.10 | Bagginsww | btw, sandwhich for most comic issues we'll probably either list the articles under their issue title |
| 21:32.15 | Bagginsww | or TPB title |
| 21:32.32 | Bagginsww | we can't just keep on enlarging the main article LOL |
| 21:32.35 | Bagginsww | for every issue |
| 21:32.52 | Sandwichman2448 | K |
| 21:32.53 | Bagginsww | since they want this series to last at least 50 issues |
| 21:33.46 | Bagginsww | I understand prologue move |
| 21:33.49 | Sandwichman2448 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Nerubian_Final_Image.JPG I corrected it. BLATENT VANDALISM! |
| 21:33.57 | Sandwichman2448 | It is true. |
| 21:34.18 | Bagginsww | huh that's definitely undead nerubian ;p |
| 21:34.22 | Bagginsww | it has bandages |
| 21:34.33 | Sandwichman2448 | Mar'li |
| 21:34.57 | Bagginsww | it looks like the same model, with slight recolors |
| 21:35.02 | Sandwichman2448 | mar'li |
| 21:35.10 | Bagginsww | right |
| 21:35.13 | Bagginsww | I've fought her |
| 21:35.28 | Bagginsww | but ya she doesn't represent a nerubian :p |
| 21:35.32 | Bagginsww | undead or otherwise :p |
| 21:35.40 | Bagginsww | its just a model reuse |
| 21:35.50 | Zeal | that's what i was gunna say |
| 21:36.19 | Zeal | it's an undead nerubian model, but as to what form she should be in, we don't know. any spider will do, lol. |
| 21:36.29 | Bagginsww | LOL ya |
| 21:38.15 | Bagginsww | so ya, I'd recomend Prologue (Comic Issue #0) |
| 21:38.16 | Bagginsww | ? |
| 21:38.31 | Bagginsww | or Prologue (Issue #0) |
| 21:39.13 | Bagginsww | or Prologue (Issue 0) |
| 21:39.21 | Bagginsww | to avoid the nested format |
| 21:39.29 | Bagginsww | but ya its kind of vague |
| 21:39.58 | Bagginsww | much like |
| 21:40.03 | Bagginsww | [[chronicle]] :[ |
| 21:40.04 | [NewsBot] | Bagginsww meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/chronicle |
| 21:40.07 | Bagginsww | *:p |
| 21:40.13 | Sandwichman2448 | I'm SDing the image and putting up a better one. |
| 21:40.52 | Zeal | remind me, how can you see uploaded image contributions? |
| 21:42.19 | Sandwichman2448 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Log/upload |
| 21:42.24 | Sandwichman2448 | Yo. |
| 21:42.34 | Zeal | ah, ty. |
| 21:42.42 | Zeal | annoying that's not in the contrib list :/ |
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| 21:46.32 | DuTempete | dammit Teomyr... it's all your fault :P |
| 21:46.45 | pcj | fgawd |
| 21:46.50 | DuTempete | Oh my, I've just noticed that Hobinheim is back :P |
| 21:47.37 | DuTempete | Tekkub! |
| 21:47.45 | Sandwichman2448 | Hob is cool. |
| 21:47.46 | Tekkub | moo? |
| 21:48.01 | DuTempete | are you on Facebook? |
| 21:48.24 | Tekkub | no, I don't waste time with them useless "social" sites |
| 21:48.28 | DuTempete | bah |
| 21:48.44 | DuTempete | It's sooo not useless. |
| 21:48.47 | Teomyr | DuTempete: what is my fault? :P |
| 21:48.54 | DuTempete | me logging into IRC :P |
| 21:48.57 | Bagginsww | do you know how much I really despise the tcg :p |
| 21:49.10 | Teomyr | haha |
| 21:49.22 | Bagginsww | all that rare content you'd have to spend hundrends or thousands on just to get some fun gimmick toy, :p |
| 21:49.30 | DuTempete | Facebook is a great place to flirt with Kirkburn, when I don't want to be distracted by IRC. :P |
| 21:49.48 | Sandwichman2448 | I like gimmiks. |
| 21:50.16 | Bagginsww | well I feel all content should be open to everyone have alternate ways to get in game with hard work |
| 21:50.44 | DuTempete | I hate the TCG because it's just another way for Blizzard to make money. |
| 21:50.48 | Bagginsww | yua |
| 21:50.50 | Bagginsww | *ya |
| 21:50.54 | DuTempete | Blizzard needs to die a horrible death. |
| 21:51.13 | Bagginsww | tcg is useless if you don't play the card game, so paying alot of money for it for some gimmick isn't worth it |
| 21:51.16 | DuTempete | It feels good not to be giving them my money anymore, even though I know I'll go back to WoW. |
| 21:51.36 | Bagginsww | actually I think they should go the route of video game exclusives |
| 21:51.44 | Bagginsww | for a year or two it could be limited to the tcg |
| 21:51.50 | Bagginsww | for the early adopters |
| 21:51.54 | Bagginsww | then open up the content to others |
| 21:51.58 | Zeal | "MTV Multiplayer published a preview of the first issue of the new World of Warcraft comic" <-- you fail world of raids. |
| 21:52.43 | Bagginsww | they should give everyone a chance to have a murlock pet now. |
| 21:52.46 | Bagginsww | Quirky :) |
| 21:53.17 | Zeal | i still want my nether whelp |
| 21:53.25 | Bagginsww | I have one ;) |
| 21:53.28 | Zeal | but i'll never get it because of their screw up.. |
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| 21:53.40 | Bagginsww | you were supposed to get 2 pets :p |
| 21:53.48 | Bagginsww | because of that screwup |
| 21:53.57 | Zeal | only i i payed and did the work in order to get them |
| 21:54.02 | Zeal | which i refuse to do |
| 21:54.07 | Zeal | they should fix their own mistakes. |
| 21:54.07 | Bagginsww | ahh well |
| 21:54.09 | Bagginsww | your loss |
| 21:54.10 | Zeal | *if i |
| 21:54.23 | Bagginsww | wishes I could trick them into giveming me lurky ;) |
| 21:54.25 | Zeal | not really, considering i barely play now. |
| 21:55.22 | Zeal | "As on live, pets do not get experience when they kill something that is grey to the hunter. |
| 21:55.33 | Zeal | *" -bold |
| 21:55.46 | Zeal | and that shall forever by why levelling pet's suck |
| 21:55.51 | [NewsBot] | Dark Legacy: #116:The Rock - http://www.darklegacycomics.com/116.html |
| 21:55.58 | Zeal | make it based on their level, not the hunter : / |
| 21:56.05 | Zeal | *pets |
| 21:56.22 | DuTempete | So, what about you, Bagginsww? You on Facebook? |
| 21:56.37 | Bagginsww | no |
| 21:56.45 | DuTempete | Awww. :( |
| 21:56.49 | pcj | omg nub |
| 21:57.04 | Zeal | "View the 8-screenshots over at MTV Multiplayer" <-- blizz planet fails too |
| 21:57.14 | DuTempete | You guys should join the cult. Go see Teomyr, he's a cutie. Not as cute as Kirkburn, though. |
| 21:57.18 | Bagginsww | I avoid sites like that personally |
| 21:57.46 | DuTempete | But Kirkburn is mine. I don't want you perverts looking at him like that. :P |
| 21:58.02 | Zeal | why would anyone other than deluded students care about facebook? |
| 21:58.05 | DuTempete | Feel free to look at Teomyr like that, however. |
| 21:58.10 | Bagginsww | I'm not interested in guys thank you LOL. I could care less if he's cute or ugly... I want to see a cute girl. |
| 21:58.12 | Teomyr | lol |
| 21:58.31 | Zeal | lol Bagginsww |
| 21:58.45 | Bagginsww | heh heh |
| 21:58.54 | [NewsBot] | WoW Insider: Fishing etiquette - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/11/11/fishing-etiquette/ |
| 21:59.10 | DuTempete | I don't really care about Facebook, it's just nice to see faces, and chat with some people I wouldn't normally have the opportunity to chat with. |
| 21:59.15 | Fisker- | anyone know the Zul'Aman reset timer? |
| 21:59.28 | DuTempete | Plus, I'm addicted to the apps. There are a bunch of fun games. |
| 21:59.37 | DuTempete | Probably 7 days Fisker- |
| 22:00.06 | Zeal | rofl. i just got a message from http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=15583764 advertising he's on webcam for me to watch right now |
| 22:00.15 | DuTempete | LOL |
| 22:00.22 | Zeal | gotta love myspace spam. and yes i have a myspace account, cos i was bored one day ;) |
| 22:00.23 | DuTempete | I would click on it, Zeal! |
| 22:00.36 | Fisker- | it's not DuTempete |
| 22:00.39 | DuTempete | myspace is only good for the music |
| 22:01.07 | DuTempete | I enjoy surfing for new bands there, but that's about it. |
| 22:01.22 | Zeal | they usually find me, lol |
| 22:01.38 | DuTempete | Not necessarily the good ones, though :P |
| 22:01.54 | Zeal | plus, it's a nice place to host an alternative source for youtube and google. |
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| 22:02.10 | Zeal | well out of all the oens i've had, i've liked 3 :p |
| 22:02.14 | Zeal | so, good enough. |
| 22:02.17 | DuTempete | Oh? I've never seen it used for that. |
| 22:02.33 | DuTempete | Well, I'm big into music, so I do a lot of band surfing. |
| 22:03.01 | DuTempete | But, actually, the only reason I joined Facebook was for the WoWWiki group :P |
| 22:03.12 | Teomyr | hehe |
| 22:03.24 | DuTempete | And I joined Myspace to keep in touch with what my brother and his band were up to. |
| 22:03.48 | Zeal | hehe, i'll let you off then ;) |
| 22:03.52 | DuTempete | I rarely visit MySpace anymore, but I'm on Facebook all the time. It's addicive. |
| 22:04.18 | Zeal | http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=6403808 ninja plug, warcraft and music related ;) |
| 22:04.50 | Teomyr | I was on schülerVZ first |
| 22:05.09 | Teomyr | which is a facebook for high school and below, sort of |
| 22:05.10 | DuTempete | I could spend hours playing with my (fluff)friend, attacking ninjas, and playing games with Kirkburn. |
| 22:05.18 | Zeal | hm.. i was on bolt in college. |
| 22:05.26 | DuTempete | I haven't heard of either of those. |
| 22:05.35 | DuTempete | I'm not surprised about Teo's, though :P |
| 22:05.51 | Teomyr | hehe |
| 22:05.54 | DuTempete | I want to see pics of Tekkub and Bagginsww, though. I bet they're hawt. :P |
| 22:06.04 | Teomyr | it's a facebook clone, and not a very good one |
| 22:06.07 | Bagginsww | sure I'll send you a picture ofa hobbit |
| 22:06.11 | DuTempete | hehe |
| 22:06.11 | Teomyr | but its immensely popular here in germany |
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| 22:06.40 | Zeal | lol |
| 22:08.06 | Tekkub | DuT... |
| 22:08.07 | Teomyr | actually, the reason why i joined facebook was the fact that so many people at schülerVZ said it was much better. plus, i get to know a completely different side of the people I know from WoW :P |
| 22:08.11 | DuTempete | Tekkub... |
| 22:08.15 | Tekkub | you know what a galka looks like? |
| 22:08.19 | DuTempete | lol |
| 22:08.28 | DuTempete | no, but I think I could imagine. :P |
| 22:08.36 | DuTempete | Does that mean you won't send me a pic? :( |
| 22:08.37 | Tekkub | I've been told I look like that, without the muscle... and a smaller tail |
| 22:09.00 | Tekkub | I'll send you the only pics I have... but you don't want to see that |
| 22:09.10 | DuTempete | lol |
| 22:11.12 | DuTempete | lol... FF reference... |
| 22:11.42 | DuTempete | I played FFXI for about 5 minutes, and hated every second of it. I haven't played the console saga, though. |
| 22:12.50 | Bibi_ | facebook ? |
| 22:12.54 | Bibi_ | girls pictures ? |
| 22:12.55 | Bibi_ | link ? |
| 22:12.59 | Bibi_ | hi DuTempete. |
| 22:13.05 | DuTempete | None for you! |
| 22:13.36 | DuTempete | There's only one Frenchie on my friends list, and he barely made it on. :P |
| 22:13.44 | Bibi_ | name. |
| 22:13.49 | DuTempete | Adys. :P |
| 22:14.15 | Zeal | lol |
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| 22:18.00 | Zeal | Ladies and gentlemen, this is Adys. Adys is a nice person. But Adys lives in France. Now think about it; that does not make sense! |
| 22:18.46 | DuTempete | Makes perfect sense to me. I like how you use the word "but". |
| 22:18.49 | DuTempete | :P |
| 22:19.02 | Zeal | it's from southpark >_> |
| 22:19.05 | DuTempete | Sadly, he isn't in here to defend himself or kick me. :P |
| 22:19.07 | Zeal | Chewbacca defense. |
| 22:19.27 | DuTempete | sorry, missed that one, nor do I memorize lines from SP. :P |
| 22:19.40 | Zeal | i had to go look up the wording, lol. |
| 22:19.44 | DuTempete | lol |
| 22:22.26 | Zeal | think i'll get back to work on that chapter list now. |
| 22:22.47 | DuTempete | yeah, I need to get back to homework :P |
| 22:24.18 | Teomyr | eww... homework |
| 22:24.49 | Bagginsww | We hates them |
| 22:25.20 | Bagginsww | homework is not my precious. |
| 22:25.42 | DuTempete | hehe |
| 22:25.54 | DuTempete | well I haven't got much of anything done this weekend. :P |
| 22:26.45 | Teomyr | yeah, same |
| 22:27.20 | Bagginsww | ahh assassin's creed's out? |
| 22:27.23 | Bagginsww | is it any good? |
| 22:27.25 | Teomyr | i made the decision of playing "a bit" of Anno 1701 |
| 22:27.43 | Teomyr | which got me addicted again |
| 22:28.14 | DuTempete | Ah, well I got... distracted... this weekend... |
| 22:28.25 | DuTempete | It's only mostly my fault. :P |
| 22:28.37 | Teomyr | hehe |
| 22:29.30 | Teomyr | but, at least i got around to mess with my PC a bit |
| 22:29.37 | DuTempete | That's always nice. |
| 22:29.55 | Teomyr | and during that, i noticed that i can passively cool my CPU, yay! |
| 22:30.32 | DuTempete | yay! |
| 22:30.40 | DuTempete | That's always amusing :) |
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| 22:35.11 | pcj | <Zeal> Ladies and gentlemen, this is Adys. Adys is a nice person. But Adys lives in France. Now think about it; that does not make sense! |
| 22:35.11 | pcj | <DuTempete> Makes perfect sense to me. I like how you use the word "but". |
| 22:35.26 | Adys | FIFTH FUCKING COPYPASTE OF THE NIGHT |
| 22:35.29 | Zeal | haha |
| 22:35.32 | Adys | I GET THE FUCKING IDEA |
| 22:35.54 | Adys | brb |
| 22:35.56 | Teomyr | see, that's what happens when you choose to leave us alone |
| 22:36.01 | DuTempete | lol |
| 22:36.05 | pcj | gg |
| 22:36.38 | DuTempete | !wwstats |
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| 22:36.53 | pcj | !jobqueue |
| 22:36.55 | [NewsBot] | The www.wowwiki.com job queue length is currently 19754 doing ~1 job/s, done in approx. 5hrs 29mins 14secs. |
| 22:37.05 | DuTempete | ~wwstats |
| 22:37.05 | infobot | it has been said that wwstats is http://www.bxd.dk/irc/freenode/wowwiki.html |
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| 22:37.32 | [NewsBot] | DuTempete has updated the stats for #wowwiki! See the #wowwiki stats: http://www.bxd.dk/irc/freenode/wowwiki.html |
| 22:38.26 | Zeal | 19754?! :o |
| 22:39.12 | Zeal | god i hate sites that don't send the correct image headers.. |
| 22:40.22 | DuTempete | grrr... dotoff page 2 isn't loading on wwstats |
| 22:40.40 | pcj | it is for me |
| 22:40.58 | DuTempete | *grumble* |
| 22:41.08 | pcj | ~massage DuTempete |
| 22:41.08 | infobot | ACTION gives DuTempete a terribly relaxing full-body massage that puts DuTempete to sleep |
| 22:41.10 | DuTempete | l2reload DuT |
| 22:41.20 | DuTempete | Thank you, infobot! |
| 22:43.03 | Teomyr | sleep... good idea |
| 22:43.09 | Teomyr | nn everyone! |
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| 22:47.56 | DuTempete | I'm going to go back to my homework. Later, my darlings! |
| 22:48.19 | pcj | goodbye |
| 22:48.24 | Zeal | bb |
| 22:59.10 | Fisker- | btw Kirkburn |
| 23:02.04 | Fisker- | hoho Adys |
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| 23:14.01 | Zeal | anyone know why notepad++ would be displaying japanese unicode characters on their side rather than upright like every other application in existance? :s |
| 23:14.46 | pcj | is your monitor tilted sideways |
| 23:14.53 | Zeal | nope.. |
| 23:15.28 | Zeal | : / |
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| 23:17.11 | Fisker- | i got i got it |
| 23:17.14 | Fisker- | Zeal |
| 23:17.18 | Zeal | oh? |
| 23:17.25 | Fisker- | did you rotate the desktop image 90 degrees? |
| 23:17.42 | Fisker- | very original and funny too |
| 23:18.13 | Zeal | ... |
| 23:19.14 | Zeal | ok.. think i figured it out.. |
| 23:19.40 | pcj | Did you have the VGA/DVI cable in sideways? |
| 23:19.45 | Zeal | font's prefixed with @ rotate all unicode characters 90 anti-clockwise. |
| 23:19.46 | Fisker- | View->"<checkmark>Display Japanese unicode character on their side?" |
| 23:20.10 | Fisker- | haha |
| 23:20.12 | Fisker- | win pcj |
| 23:20.18 | Zeal | lol |
| 23:20.35 | Fisker- | btw anyone knows if it's possible for wowwiki to protect some areas of a page but not it all? |
| 23:20.50 | pcj | Fisker: You can make parts of a page a template and protect the template |
| 23:21.10 | winkiller | Kirkburn: how did you get exalted with exodar at 40? runecloth turnins? |
| 23:21.26 | Fisker- | well it appears that scammers have begun targetting WotLK sites |
| 23:21.27 | winkiller | need a strategy for darnassus |
| 23:21.29 | pcj | Kirkburn said it was all from questing |
| 23:21.36 | winkiller | hm, ok |
| 23:21.52 | Fisker- | it would be awesome if you could tag the articles with some anti-phishing notice as well as protect it so the scammers couldn't just remove it |
| 23:22.11 | Fisker- | but we might just want to check if it appears to be single cases or what |
| 23:22.12 | pcj | Scammers or spammers |
| 23:22.15 | Fisker- | scammers |
| 23:22.24 | Zeal | well that is the thing, you could protect the template, but you can't protect the template being removed from the article : / |
| 23:22.29 | Fisker- | someone put in the usual "zomg wotlk betas here" |
| 23:22.53 | Fisker- | yeah that's what i want Zeal |
| 23:23.04 | pcj | That would be impossible then |
| 23:23.10 | Fisker- | You could put in the template and that wouldn't be possible to remove, but you could still add data as normal |
| 23:23.13 | pcj | You could protect the page itself and have editable templates |
| 23:23.28 | Zeal | would limit the dmg |
| 23:24.01 | Fisker- | is it even possible out of the box on a standard wikipedia setup? |
| 23:24.11 | pcj | No |
| 23:24.30 | Zeal | as they then have to edit several tempaltes to do any considerable dmg. but then you're looking on alot of time wasted and a pain in the ass for contributers. |
| 23:24.35 | pcj | MediaWiki has a very primitive security system |
| 23:24.53 | Fisker- | figured |
| 23:24.55 | Zeal | *MediaWiki is a very primitive system ;) |
| 23:25.06 | Fisker- | it's a shame they don't have anything like that |
| 23:25.10 | pcj | Meh, it beats other wiki software in other stuff |
| 23:25.12 | Fisker- | what about urlfiltering? |
| 23:25.20 | Zeal | true true |
| 23:25.49 | pcj | Well supposedly when a external link is entered there's supposed to be a captcha |
| 23:26.15 | Zeal | yeah, the captcha is easy to beat. |
| 23:26.21 | Zeal | or so i've been told : / |
| 23:26.32 | Fisker- | well the scammers are scriptkiddies |
| 23:26.37 | Fisker- | they wouldn't use a bot regardless |
| 23:26.39 | Zeal | aye |
| 23:26.46 | Zeal | oh, they do. |
| 23:27.03 | Fisker- | they wouldn't use a bot unless it already existed and was made for that purpose |
| 23:27.03 | Fisker- | :P |
| 23:27.26 | pcj | Bots do exist for that purpose |
| 23:27.30 | Zeal | that was what i was saying, wikipedia's (and thus ww's) captcha is fairly easy for a bot to get right. |
| 23:27.38 | Zeal | yuup |
| 23:27.49 | Fisker- | i just doubt that they're looking for a bot to beat the captcha |
| 23:28.07 | Zeal | scriptkiddies won't know, but businesses will. |
| 23:28.14 | Zeal | *won't no |
| 23:28.20 | Fisker- | yeah definitely |
| 23:28.50 | Fisker- | it's like phpbb's new "security" to the md5 hashes |
| 23:28.52 | Zeal | is there a decent fixed width unicode font? :S |
| 23:29.05 | Zeal | or is that like a holy grail? lol |
| 23:29.19 | Fisker- | It's enough to throw any scriptkiddie off the trail because he can't like "Omg lol input hash into password cracker" |
| 23:29.23 | Fisker- | now he has to read and shit |
| 23:29.36 | Zeal | hehe |
| 23:29.47 | Fisker- | a hacker would just look in the cryptography files of phpbb and figure out how to reverse engineer a hash from then |
| 23:29.48 | Zeal | they wait for someone else to do the work. |
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| 23:29.55 | Fisker- | yeah exactly |
| 23:30.15 | Fisker- | So in the case of wotlk phishing i'm fairly certain they're not using bots, atleast not yet |
| 23:30.30 | pcj | http://unicode.org/help/display_problems.html zeal |
| 23:30.37 | Fisker- | anyways sleep tiem |
| 23:31.16 | winkiller | you can't reverse engineer a hash normally |
| 23:31.35 | winkiller | only produce a collision |
| 23:32.06 | Zeal | erm.. i take it you're saying it's a holy grail? |
| 23:32.46 | Zeal | there a "few" yet you dont't link a single one as suggestion, lol. |
| 23:33.37 | pcj | I don't use unicode particularly, so I don't know much about it, just thought that might help |
| 23:34.16 | Zeal | ah, kk |
| 23:34.53 | Zeal | well it's just with unicode, you've got a crap load of more font's and variations of them for the languages, so to have a fixed width one is hard work i'd imagine. |
| 23:35.39 | Zeal | honestly prefer to use such a font in notepad++ rather than the normal non-unicode ones and having to switch to varialbe width unicode fonts for that actually text. |
| 23:35.40 | foxlit | Hrm. |
| 23:35.47 | foxlit | I haven't actually see what phpbb does to md5. |
| 23:35.54 | foxlit | What does it do to md5? |
| 23:36.10 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Skunk |
| 23:37.16 | foxlit | qqfisker-! |
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| 23:37.34 | Zeal | lol |
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| 23:38.03 | Bagginsww | edited |
| 23:38.08 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Skunk |
| 23:39.37 | pcj | How exciting |
| 23:41.09 | Bagginsww | hah |
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| 23:44.25 | foxlit | fs, Fisker-, made me look for no reason. |
| 23:44.32 | foxlit | phpbb's password hashes are actually sound. |
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| 23:48.03 | Zeal | lol |
| 23:59.22 | Zeal | ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:GNU_unifont.png |
