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| 00:02.48 | pcj | lrn2flying mount |
| 00:51.48 | Sky2042 | bagginsww, i am gonna beat you so hard |
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| 00:55.34 | pcj | hawt |
| 00:55.43 | pcj | can i watch |
| 00:55.52 | Sky2042 | you can join him |
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| 01:13.11 | Sandwichman2448 | Hi the peoples. What it is? |
| 01:14.17 | Sky2042 | inglesia, por favor |
| 01:14.49 | pcj | omelette du fromage! |
| 01:14.59 | Sandwichman2448 | Non. |
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| 01:19.04 | Sandwichman2448 | So, anything new? |
| 01:21.31 | Sky2042 | not really |
| 01:21.45 | Sky2042 | i've started a rather fun, copypaste job :] |
| 01:21.54 | Sky2042 | (on the wiki) |
| 01:22.06 | Sandwichman2448 | I see that. :) |
| 01:22.40 | Sky2042 | you can help... ;P |
| 01:22.43 | Sandwichman2448 | I got a WTF Vote. |
| 01:23.11 | Sandwichman2448 | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Featured_article#Siege_weapon |
| 01:23.14 | Sandwichman2448 | See? |
| 01:23.19 | Sky2042 | yeah... you deserved it |
| 01:24.20 | Sandwichman2448 | :( |
| 01:24.58 | Sandwichman2448 | That hurt Sky. |
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| 01:25.28 | Sky2042 | its the truth. he wasn't the only one to think, wtf |
| 01:25.36 | DuTempete | Hello my darlings. :) |
| 01:25.42 | Sandwichman2448 | Hello. |
| 01:25.55 | Sky2042 | well, ok, maybe not screams... |
| 01:25.58 | Sky2042 | :o |
| 01:26.33 | Sandwichman2448 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Tuskarr#Female_model Yeah, I should have never posted it in the mainspace. |
| 01:27.41 | Sandwichman2448 | Why giggleing? |
| 01:28.19 | DuTempete | at Sky :) |
| 01:28.32 | DuTempete | And another giggle for your Tuskarr model ;) |
| 01:28.40 | DuTempete | That will always make me giggle. |
| 01:29.06 | Sandwichman2448 | It is getting deleted if you read. |
| 01:29.24 | DuTempete | No it's not. It's just been nominated. One vote can't get rid of it. |
| 01:29.30 | Sandwichman2448 | Woo! |
| 01:30.43 | Sandwichman2448 | It the Siege that odd? |
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| 01:33.54 | pcj | what was your question dutempete |
| 01:34.23 | DuTempete | Ah, yes. Dynamic content. ;) |
| 01:34.37 | pcj | what about it |
| 01:34.54 | DuTempete | wondering if I should try for js, or just go with the simple iframes. |
| 01:35.02 | pcj | on what |
| 01:35.09 | DuTempete | I'm designing a website for my writing. |
| 01:35.41 | pcj | ok |
| 01:36.04 | DuTempete | So, it's basically a single page, with a navbar on the left, and a table cell for conetnt. |
| 01:36.24 | pcj | right |
| 01:36.53 | DuTempete | How would you recommend implementing that? |
| 01:37.31 | pcj | what kind of content |
| 01:37.37 | DuTempete | purely text |
| 01:37.56 | DuTempete | but the content cell would have a background image |
| 01:38.47 | pcj | right |
| 01:38.53 | pcj | well PHP/ASP would be the way to go |
| 01:39.01 | pcj | but if your server doesn't support that you could do JS |
| 01:39.14 | DuTempete | actually, not just simple text, there would be some formatting css in it, too. |
| 01:39.33 | DuTempete | I have a couple pieces that need to be displayed in a certain way. |
| 01:39.53 | DuTempete | no php/asp, sadly. I'm just using comcast, atm. =P |
| 01:40.10 | Gryphen | or ssi |
| 01:40.29 | DuTempete | nor do I know the first thing about any of those languages. |
| 01:40.44 | DuTempete | I'm familiar with JS, though, which is why I'd choose that. |
| 01:41.16 | Sandwichman2448 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talon_of_the_phoenix Hm? |
| 01:46.43 | Sandwichman2448 | Am I really that odd? |
| 01:50.39 | Sandwichman2448 | Bye all! |
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| 01:51.12 | pcj | Yes |
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| 05:53.05 | Bagginsww | so let me get this straight while the few blood elf heroes have been traipsing off in Outland, the blood elves back in Quel'Thalas have been oblivious to what was going on in outland and are still in communication with Kael'thas and his abassador? |
| 05:55.59 | Sky2042 | bagginsww: yuh huh |
| 05:56.14 | Bagginsww | do I need to reword what I said? |
| 05:56.27 | Bagginsww | by blood elf heroes I meant Players |
| 05:57.07 | Sky2042 | nope |
| 05:57.19 | Sky2042 | that is, essentially, the case, i believe |
| 05:57.23 | Bagginsww | beginning of the story the player characters and blood elves are still alllied to Kael'thas as far the story goes. |
| 05:57.27 | Sky2042 | i would confirm with a blood elf though |
| 05:57.29 | Sky2042 | :o |
| 05:57.33 | Bagginsww | its still that way eh? |
| 05:57.38 | Sky2042 | yeh |
| 05:57.42 | Sky2042 | from what i understand |
| 05:57.49 | Bagginsww | so really its only heroes that know the truth |
| 05:57.50 | Sky2042 | and how did you know i'd be here? :P |
| 05:58.02 | Sky2042 | i just got home from taking my gf back to her house |
| 05:58.02 | Bagginsww | uh I as already in xchat |
| 05:58.06 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 05:58.11 | Bagginsww | I just gotback myself :p |
| 05:58.57 | Sky2042 | omfg, an elementary school has banned tag |
| 05:59.07 | Sky2042 | wtf? |
| 05:59.26 | Sky2042 | http://www.comcast.net/news/strange/index.jsp?cat=STRANGE&fn=/2007/08/29/750907.html&cvqh=itn_cyberslacking |
| 05:59.44 | Sky2042 | how is tag a contact game? |
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| 06:02.44 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Horde#Inherited_the_old_Horde |
| 06:03.54 | Sky2042 | !jobqueue |
| 06:03.55 | [NewsBot] | The www.wowwiki.com job queue length is currently 1 |
| 06:07.26 | Bagginsww | I'm going to delete the Old Horde redirect if there is no quelms? |
| 06:07.40 | Bagginsww | since term is dubios at best... |
| 06:10.07 | Sky2042 | you clean up the links first |
| 06:10.21 | Sky2042 | i personally prefer it. It's easy to link to. |
| 06:12.00 | Sky2042 | you haven't read lotc |
| 06:12.02 | Sky2042 | shame on you |
| 06:12.57 | Sky2042 | in fact, have a quote :D |
| 06:13.36 | Bagginsww | I'm halfway through it |
| 06:13.45 | Bagginsww | I've been reading it and DotD at the same time LOL |
| 06:13.57 | Sky2042 | he does have a point about old horde, however |
| 06:13.59 | Bagginsww | a little bit further in DotD |
| 06:14.25 | Bagginsww | sky what I mean is nothing should link to old horde really |
| 06:14.56 | Bagginsww | it should just be [[Horde (pre-Thrall)|Horde]] |
| 06:15.06 | Bagginsww | so that it shows up as "Horde" |
| 06:15.09 | Sky2042 | true |
| 06:15.29 | Bagginsww | maybe merge it back into Horde someway |
| 06:15.29 | Sky2042 | and again, typing [[Old Horde]] is easier than typing [[Horde (pre-Thrall)|]] :P |
| 06:15.36 | Sky2042 | nah |
| 06:15.37 | Bagginsww | and then you'd only have to tyype "horde" |
| 06:15.41 | Sky2042 | they are two separate entities |
| 06:15.46 | Bagginsww | no they aren't |
| 06:15.54 | Sky2042 | excuse me; distinct entities |
| 06:15.57 | Bagginsww | its the same entity but had a law reform |
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| 06:16.52 | Bagginsww | read any Blizzard history and they make no distinctions between the two |
| 06:16.57 | Bagginsww | its just the "History of the Horde" |
| 06:17.11 | Bagginsww | for example in Horde Player's Guide |
| 06:17.28 | Bagginsww | and its all in one article |
| 06:17.37 | Sky2042 | aye |
| 06:18.05 | Sky2042 | but then, does it lump in the fel orcen and the dark horde in with those in hpg? |
| 06:18.13 | Sky2042 | those are certainly distinct entities ;) |
| 06:24.50 | Bagginsww | those ones are definitely distinct wasn't speaking of those now was I? |
| 06:25.02 | Bagginsww | Those ones are just considered offshoots |
| 06:25.24 | Bagginsww | Thrall is the true successor of the Horde, and the others were the break away groups. |
| 06:25.38 | Sky2042 | true |
| 06:26.19 | Bagginsww | Shadow Council can almost be considered its own break away horde too |
| 06:26.32 | Bagginsww | Shadow horde, :p |
| 06:27.34 | Sky2042 | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Template:Orc_Clans&curid=94448&diff=851881&oldid=612433 that wasn't really necessary, i think |
| 06:28.11 | Sky2042 | whilst they are technically the same group, there can be no doubt that the true leader of the horde represented by those clans is now rend or zuluhed, rather than thrall. |
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| 06:28.44 | Sky2042 | or zuluhed or kargath* |
| 06:31.25 | Bagginsww | sky actually there are members of everyone of those clans in the Horde if you din't know :) even modern ones |
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| 06:31.31 | Bagginsww | *one |
| 06:31.48 | Bagginsww | though thrall elinated clan names |
| 06:31.51 | Bagginsww | *eliminated |
| 06:31.59 | Bagginsww | he wants them all to be equal |
| 06:32.05 | Bagginsww | just orcs |
| 06:32.45 | Bagginsww | technecaly I'd rename that template to Orcish Clans of the Second War |
| 06:32.53 | Sky2042 | then doso |
| 06:33.03 | Sky2042 | just change the title of the tables |
| 06:33.12 | Bagginsww | because all its information is based warcraft II timeframe |
| 06:33.18 | Bagginsww | leaders have changed since then |
| 06:33.43 | Sky2042 | well, actually, those aren't really of the second war either |
| 06:33.47 | Sky2042 | RotH as all these clans |
| 06:33.54 | Bagginsww | its the manual names |
| 06:33.58 | Sky2042 | and that was prior to even the first war |
| 06:34.18 | Bagginsww | well that's true, but I was going by publishing history |
| 06:34.28 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 06:34.37 | Sky2042 | publishing history isn't much on wowwiki :P |
| 06:34.37 | Bagginsww | literally that was the title of the article i n Warcraft II manual IIRC |
| 06:34.43 | Sky2042 | yeah |
| 06:34.46 | Bagginsww | Orcish Clans of the Second War |
| 06:34.51 | Sky2042 | [[Orcish Clans of the Second War]] |
| 06:34.52 | [NewsBot] | Sky2042 meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Orcish_Clans_of_the_Second_War |
| 06:35.04 | Sky2042 | capital p hail |
| 06:35.10 | Bagginsww | also the clans may have existed iN ROTH |
| 06:35.13 | Bagginsww | but not the leaders |
| 06:35.19 | Bagginsww | not all of those leaders |
| 06:35.26 | Bagginsww | especially the ogres, LOL |
| 06:36.42 | Sky2042 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Clans_of_the_Horde |
| 06:36.43 | Bagginsww | in warcraft II man it as just Clans of the Horde |
| 06:36.50 | Sky2042 | hah |
| 06:37.11 | Bagginsww | anycase its more specific second war versions |
| 06:38.23 | Bagginsww | sky, give me one reference where the term "New Horde" is used? |
| 06:38.35 | Bagginsww | because its not in HPG |
| 06:38.43 | Bagginsww | HPG just treatst hem as the same entity |
| 06:38.49 | Sky2042 | i was wondering about that. i'll have a look see |
| 06:39.08 | Bagginsww | Its just The Horde in HPG :p |
| 06:39.15 | Bagginsww | in the History of the Horde |
| 06:40.06 | Bagginsww | oh and I was reading one of the ingame books discussed that Elemental Lords were the greatest of the elemental lieghtenants in the Old God's armies |
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| 06:40.31 | Bagginsww | but ya "New Horde" is more or less the same thing as Old Horde |
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| 06:40.33 | Bagginsww | a fan term ;p |
| 06:40.50 | Fisker-- | Boubouille !1 |
| 06:40.52 | Fisker-- | new ptr patch |
| 06:40.59 | Fisker-- | you must check :( |
| 06:41.41 | Sky2042_ | only usage in one of the books is out of context, however, bagginsww: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orc_(Warcraft)#Clans has it used extensively |
| 06:42.17 | Bagginsww | that's wikipedia though |
| 06:42.29 | Sky2042_ | yeah |
| 06:42.43 | Bagginsww | and if he cites wikipedia... |
| 06:42.55 | Sky2042_ | http://www.blizzplanet.com/content/170/ |
| 06:43.05 | Bagginsww | I don't bother fixing wikipedia... its too hrad to keep track of that many warcraft sites LOL |
| 06:43.18 | Sky2042_ | that might just be cappsing though on that one |
| 06:43.46 | Bagginsww | ya |
| 06:44.06 | Bagginsww | yes, it is a new kind of horde, even if it is the same horde |
| 06:44.10 | Bagginsww | at least in values |
| 06:45.00 | Sky2042_ | that one's also cappsing |
| 06:45.06 | Sky2042_ | :| |
| 06:45.17 | Bagginsww | now Horde player's guide says alliance thought they had destroyed the horde, and somehow allowed a "new Horde" to be formed under their nose by some upstart warlord. |
| 06:45.28 | Bagginsww | not an entity |
| 06:45.39 | Bagginsww | but horde pov is that its the same horde |
| 06:45.43 | Bagginsww | just improved |
| 06:46.05 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 06:46.10 | Sky2042 | he's doing the same thing i just did |
| 06:46.26 | Sky2042 | i'll have a look thru a pdf or two |
| 06:47.07 | Sky2042 | there is usage of new horde in war3 man |
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| 06:47.36 | Sky2042 | neither new nor horde are cappsed |
| 06:48.24 | Bagginsww | horde should have been |
| 06:48.28 | Sky2042 | it isn't |
| 06:48.42 | Sky2042 | in any of its 3 usages |
| 06:54.17 | Sky2042 | and then there's the quest named "The New Horde" |
| 06:54.35 | Sky2042 | the new horde exists. maybe not the old horde, but the new one does :) |
| 06:54.55 | Bagginsww | I've added further explaination |
| 06:55.06 | Bagginsww | sky and its eigtrigg that explains thigns in HPG |
| 06:55.10 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 06:55.31 | Bagginsww | explains things to brann |
| 06:55.38 | Bagginsww | that its all just the same horde |
| 06:55.43 | Bagginsww | just values have changed |
| 06:55.52 | Bagginsww | funny eh? |
| 06:57.33 | Bagginsww | ubt you know what they say about in-universie pov |
| 06:57.41 | Sky2042 | mmm? |
| 06:57.44 | Bagginsww | different people have different pov |
| 06:57.58 | Boubouille | Fisker- : nobody logged on PTR yet |
| 06:58.04 | Boubouille | = no dungeon loot |
| 06:58.07 | Boubouille | = no way to compare |
| 06:58.08 | Bagginsww | many believe it is the same entity there ar some that think its different |
| 06:58.28 | Sky2042 | brb |
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| 06:59.58 | Sky2042 | is it the wiki or my gd net? |
| 07:00.26 | Bagginsww | its back |
| 07:00.30 | Bagginsww | it was wiki |
| 07:00.43 | Sky2042 | ugggggggh |
| 07:05.15 | sannse | our guys are looking at it |
| 07:05.43 | Sky2042 | did you guys flip the switch on external images? |
| 07:05.51 | Sky2042 | or we getting a really big burp? |
| 07:06.24 | sannse | I don't know what it is yet... I'm sitting with one of the tech guys and he's tapping away, but I don't want to disturb him |
| 07:09.00 | Sky2042 | i went and edited the beginning of the featured article on wp |
| 07:10.36 | Bagginsww | who's crashing the server :p |
| 07:12.26 | Fisker-- | i logged on ptr Boubouille :((( |
| 07:12.32 | Fisker-- | so lots of paladin loot! |
| 07:12.36 | Fisker-- | and huntard loot |
| 07:12.38 | Fisker-- | and warlock loot |
| 07:12.40 | Fisker-- | and rogue loot |
| 07:14.04 | Boubouille | then you can tell me if there is any stat change on them |
| 07:14.11 | sannse | seems it's probably a squid... never did like those fish |
| 07:14.29 | Bagginsww | sky funny thing is http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?wquest=787 |
| 07:14.31 | Bagginsww | about that quest |
| 07:14.39 | Bagginsww | is eitrigg just says The Horde has changed |
| 07:14.46 | Bagginsww | he doesn't literally sai its a "new horde" |
| 07:14.55 | Bagginsww | I'd say the title is hyperbole |
| 07:15.03 | Bagginsww | much like most titles for quests are |
| 07:15.09 | Bagginsww | hyperbole or jokes |
| 07:16.48 | Sky2042 | aye |
| 07:17.02 | Sky2042 | but that still leaves our three references in war3man :P |
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| 07:20.57 | Fisker-- | not like i'm looking Boubouille :( |
| 07:21.02 | Fisker-- | i'm working |
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| 07:22.18 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Zarnks |
| 07:25.00 | Sky2042 | that was unneccessarily harsh |
| 07:28.15 | Kalroth | Baggins puts the smack down! |
| 07:30.40 | Bagginsww | well its really confusing when people twist things to their own whim :p |
| 07:34.38 | Bagginsww | No, I judge things by more than one source, and have access to it all |
| 07:35.15 | Bagginsww | I tend to put down quotes/paraphrases rather than opinions of how I want it to be. |
| 07:36.27 | Kalroth | No no, don't stop, we need more eDrama! |
| 07:36.46 | Bagginsww | this week on Old and Cranky |
| 07:36.53 | Sky2042 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Bmedley_Sutler.2C_still |
| 07:36.58 | Bagginsww | *The Old and the Cranky |
| 07:37.01 | Sky2042 | there's eDarma for you |
| 07:37.21 | Bagginsww | eDarma, is that like eKarma? |
| 07:37.26 | Kalroth | Dharma is a sweetie! |
| 07:42.03 | Bagginsww | LOL sky warcraft III manual calls the second wave of orcs dduring beyond the dark portal |
| 07:42.13 | Bagginsww | the new horde |
| 07:42.35 | Bagginsww | it uses that term for two different hordes :p |
| 07:43.51 | Kalroth | Well Blizzard isn't 100% consistent themself, no wonder the rabid fanoys got problems ;) |
| 07:43.55 | Kalroth | fanboys* |
| 07:44.04 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 07:51.44 | Bagginsww | one use of "new Horde" in WoWRPG is referring to "the new Horde homeland", otherwise the "new homeland" in context |
| 07:52.42 | Bagginsww | Lands of Mystery has several instances of use of "new Horde" but treats them as a nickname |
| 07:52.52 | Bagginsww | rather than literal organization change |
| 07:53.06 | Bagginsww | erm I mean seperate organizatins |
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| 08:28.28 | Bagginsww | what did zarnks mean when he said that blood elves have one more intellect than gnomes? |
| 08:29.04 | Bagginsww | I loaded a mage for both and they both seem to start out with the same intel |
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| 08:49.48 | Bagginsww | so how old do you think zarnks is? |
| 08:52.00 | Laurly | you dont like him very much do you :) |
| 08:54.17 | sannse | sorry for the slowness this morning folks, things should be improving now (an attack on us today, bah and humbug) |
| 09:02.55 | Bagginsww | laurly ya he's gotten on my nerves one too many times |
| 09:02.59 | Bagginsww | or 10 too many :p |
| 09:03.03 | Bagginsww | or more |
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| 09:14.21 | Dotted | "No members of the web or print media, moderators or volunteers for a fansite, may enter." |
| 09:14.24 | Dotted | nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 09:16.33 | Dotted | Winners must be signed up on the NA WAR Beta Center. Note that you must be from North America, New Zealand, Australia, or Asia. Unfortunately the Beta is closed to European residents at this time. |
| 09:16.34 | Dotted | ahaha |
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| 10:15.25 | Laurly | DuTempete you awake? |
| 10:15.52 | Laurly | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Laurlybot/Sandbox/npc/NPCs_Drops <--- why is my header so big. |
| 10:19.09 | Amberrock | hmm |
| 10:19.48 | Amberrock | the problem is with the "drop" column, I think |
| 10:20.29 | Amberrock | but I can't find the problem either |
| 10:20.50 | Laurly | hmm |
| 10:24.57 | Laurly | woot import USA candy came :) |
| 10:38.15 | Bagginsww | ho crashed wowwiiki? |
| 10:39.25 | Laurly | :/ |
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| 10:40.00 | Kalroth | I blame Kirkburn! |
| 10:40.05 | Kirkburn | Morning :) |
| 10:40.13 | Kalroth | [12:36] <Bagginsww> ho crashed wowwiiki? |
| 10:40.21 | Kirkburn | I am home! |
| 10:40.25 | Kalroth | [12:38] --> Kirkburn has joined #wowwiki |
| 10:40.30 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 10:40.37 | Kalroth | Coincidence? I think not! |
| 10:40.42 | Laurly | LOL |
| 10:40.43 | Kirkburn | :( |
| 10:40.49 | Kirkburn | DuTempete!! |
| 10:41.00 | Kalroth | And good morning, Kirkburn0r! |
| 10:41.03 | Laurly | [12:38] <@Bagginsww> ho crashed wowwiiki? |
| 10:41.05 | Laurly | [12:39] * @Tekkub (n=tekkub@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/Tekkub) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 10:41.08 | Bagginsww | well guess its time to sleep :p |
| 10:41.14 | Laurly | i like that better tekkub ran away |
| 10:41.35 | Kalroth | Can I bitch about MySQL in here? pleasepleaseplease |
| 10:42.25 | Laurly | Kirkburn im templateing the bots tables so if you want to change them again its easer. but http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Laurlybot/Sandbox/npc/NPCs_Drops <--- whats wrong |
| 10:44.04 | Kirkburn | Can I at least get settled in first?# |
| 10:44.11 | Kirkburn | I've been away from here for a month :P |
| 10:44.11 | Kalroth | lol |
| 10:44.50 | Kalroth | Kirkburn: We need your mobile number, so we can disturb you when you're not on irc |
| 10:45.00 | Laurly | nope your not allowed |
| 10:45.07 | Laurly | back to work slacker |
| 10:45.37 | Kirkburn | Yes, my mobile number is easy enough to find |
| 10:45.47 | Kirkburn | DuTempete has already started abusing it :P |
| 10:45.49 | Kalroth | I wouldn't dare phoning you anyways :( |
| 10:48.38 | bleeter | not easy enough for someone in the middle of assignment panic to find for a li'l bit of entertainment :P |
| 10:49.16 | Kalroth | Laurly: Just vandal a few of her pages, she can feel that while asleep. |
| 10:49.32 | Laurly | hehe |
| 10:53.08 | Kirkburn | How's the wiki for everyone? |
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| 10:53.25 | Bagginsww | not loading for me |
| 10:53.38 | Laurly | its not the bot shes not running |
| 10:54.24 | Bagginsww | ahh well night all |
| 10:54.30 | Kirkburn | Laurly, wha? |
| 10:54.39 | Kirkburn | Night Bagginsww |
| 10:54.53 | Kalroth | nn Baggy |
| 10:54.58 | bleeter | nn Bagginsww |
| 10:56.15 | Kirkburn | MatthewS, any knowledge of server problems? |
| 10:56.55 | Kalroth | it's images1.wikia.com that's a slow loader for me |
| 10:57.53 | Kalroth | hrm |
| 10:57.58 | Kalroth | naw, FF was just funky |
| 10:58.01 | bleeter | btw, good to see your safe return, Kirkburn :) |
| 10:58.07 | Kirkburn | woot |
| 10:58.10 | Kalroth | it's definitely an image problem though, the page loads fine |
| 11:00.16 | Kirkburn | Anyone got thoughts on the Main Page patch thing? |
| 11:00.39 | Kalroth | The subtitle to the wowwiki logo or? |
| 11:00.49 | Kirkburn | aye |
| 11:01.02 | Kirkburn | (I'm not really happy with the placement) |
| 11:01.13 | Kalroth | Hrmf |
| 11:01.31 | Kirkburn | Rather than next, should it possibly say "PTR"? |
| 11:01.49 | Kalroth | Maybe make a small box above "Featured Article" with the data? |
| 11:02.00 | Kirkburn | Can't push the ad down >< |
| 11:02.21 | Kalroth | Well first of all, I think it should be "WoW version", not "WoW patch" |
| 11:03.06 | Kalroth | Maybe something like "WoW version: current 2.1.3 - next 2.2.0" |
| 11:03.30 | Kalroth | or "WoW patch version" |
| 11:03.32 | Kirkburn | tweaked |
| 11:04.14 | Kalroth | I like the (PTR) behind 2.2.0, but then it should link to [[PTR]] |
| 11:04.35 | Kirkburn | Problem I see there is that it confuses the links |
| 11:04.51 | Kirkburn | People might expect something to do with the 2.2 PTR rather than a defintion |
| 11:04.58 | Kalroth | Well abbrivations are bad, not all your users will know what PTR is |
| 11:05.15 | Kirkburn | True, but if they care that much about patch numbers .... :P |
| 11:05.16 | Kalroth | I guess they can see that on 2.2.0 page though? |
| 11:05.23 | Kirkburn | Not sure what to show when there's no PTR, any ideas? |
| 11:05.31 | Kalroth | Yeah, it's on the 2.2.0 page, no worries then |
| 11:05.41 | Kirkburn | Ah, yeah, one thing I proposed to Sky is a proper patch infobox |
| 11:05.50 | Kirkburn | And navbox, so that all this stuff is linked |
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| 11:06.13 | Kalroth | Hrmf, there really is something funky with the server |
| 11:06.22 | Kirkburn | If no patch is on the PTR, link to Coming Soon? |
| 11:06.33 | Kalroth | Naw, just remove it, imo |
| 11:06.35 | Kirkburn | Not seeing any problems here, but Bagginsww wasn't even able to ping it |
| 11:06.46 | Kalroth | Ahh, router issues then |
| 11:07.16 | Kalroth | "WoW version ? current x.x.x · next x.x.x (PTR)" when there is a PTR patch available |
| 11:07.25 | Kalroth | "WoW version ? current x.x.x" when there isn't a PTR patch available |
| 11:07.35 | Kalroth | or maybe remove current too |
| 11:07.41 | Kalroth | "WoW version ? x.x.x" |
| 11:07.57 | Kalroth | Since it's rather redundant if there's only one patch version linked ;) |
| 11:08.10 | Kirkburn | interesting, my client is showing ? instead of – |
| 11:08.16 | Kirkburn | (when you copy it) |
| 11:08.22 | Kalroth | Hrm |
| 11:08.36 | Kirkburn | Sounds like a fair proposal |
| 11:08.36 | Kalroth | well I'm using "ISO-8859-15 (Western Europe)" |
| 11:09.02 | Kalroth | and it shows the text just fine here, I guess it's just xchat being funky |
| 11:09.10 | Kirkburn | aye |
| 11:10.03 | Kalroth | The version reference to Patch seems a little redundant too, since I bet the patch pages refer to it as well |
| 11:11.44 | Kirkburn | Bleh I'll come back to wiki stuff later when I'm more sorted |
| 11:12.06 | Kirkburn | 10 magazines to read >< |
| 11:13.10 | Kalroth | nude magazines or? |
| 11:14.00 | Kirkburn | but of course |
| 11:14.44 | Kirkburn | Hegre, Galitsin, Femjoy, all the arty ones :P (note: if you're at work, no, don't look them up) |
| 11:19.40 | Kirkburn | The lack of comments is disappointing :( |
| 11:20.01 | Kirkburn | Must be too early |
| 11:21.08 | Kalroth | Sorry, I was err, busy |
| 11:21.21 | Kalroth | Browsing pictures of uhh, churches. |
| 11:21.25 | Kalroth | Yup, that's it. |
| 11:23.34 | Kirkburn | beautiful tall scandinavian churches? |
| 11:25.34 | Kalroth | Nice towers. |
| 11:27.42 | bleeter | you know what curch towers tend to remind me of? |
| 11:27.54 | bleeter | *church |
| 11:28.04 | Kalroth | I'm not sure I want to know. |
| 11:28.04 | bleeter | phalluses. and 'coz I'm not gay I immedaite think |
| 11:28.07 | bleeter | BOOBIES! |
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| 11:33.03 | Laurly | hmmm candy import Tootsie Pop :) |
| 11:34.46 | bleeter | Tootsie... sounds like .... |
| 11:35.02 | bleeter | too much time on IRC, not enough time on Uni assignment ... ciao |
| 11:35.10 | Kirkburn | Too much time watching Blackadder too |
| 11:35.32 | bleeter | 21:35 -!- Nick Bob is already in use |
| 11:35.36 | bleeter | foiled again! |
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| 11:38.41 | Laurly | DuTempete wake up!!! |
| 11:42.38 | Kalroth | Poor girl :( |
| 11:42.41 | DuTempete | WOOOT! |
| 11:42.48 | Laurly | finaly! |
| 11:42.55 | Laurly | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Laurlybot/Sandbox/npc/NPCs_Drops <--- fix it! |
| 11:43.24 | Laurly | i template all the bots NPC tables but they all have the same bug in the header |
| 11:44.17 | Kirkburn | morning =) |
| 11:45.02 | DuTempete | I forgot to log out last night, lol |
| 11:47.24 | DuTempete | oh jesus, laurly, wtf happened there? |
| 11:47.49 | Laurly | dont know i made templates out of all the tables you gave me thats what i got |
| 11:47.56 | Laurly | figured i would be nice and let you fix it |
| 11:48.02 | DuTempete | templates... *sigh* |
| 11:48.28 | Laurly | that way you and Kirkburn can change them when ever you want insted of me editing bot code |
| 11:48.58 | DuTempete | hehe that could be an interesting idea |
| 11:49.05 | Laurly | think we could have just one template for skinns herbs pickpocket and mines as the only thing thats diffrent is the image |
| 11:49.20 | DuTempete | *nod* |
| 11:49.24 | Kirkburn | I could fix all but one line break >< |
| 11:49.50 | [NewsBot] | GamePolitics: Survey Says: Gamers Aren’t Doing That Much Gaming - http://gamepolitics.com/2007/08/30/survey-says-gamers-arent-doing-that-much-gaming/ |
| 11:49.50 | [NewsBot] | GamePolitics: Chinese Editorial Calls for Government Ban on Virtual Goods Trade - http://gamepolitics.com/2007/08/30/chinese-editorial-calls-for-government-ban-on-virtual-goods-trade/ |
| 11:49.56 | Laurly | i will stick to bot codeing let you guys play with templates |
| 11:49.59 | DuTempete | hey! she asked me to do it! |
| 11:51.05 | Kirkburn | aha, done |
| 11:51.09 | Kirkburn | :P |
| 11:51.29 | Laurly | dont fight theres Template:NPC_teachrecipe_header Template:NPC_teachskill_header Template:NPC_pickpocket_header Template:NPC_skined_header :Template:NPC_herbed_header :Template:NPC_drops_header Template:NPC_sells_header |
| 11:51.40 | DuTempete | You're supposed to be settling in or something. :( |
| 11:52.04 | Laurly | see so much faster to just let DuTempete fix it :) |
| 11:53.08 | Kirkburn | Yes, I'm supposed to be away, so, er ... away! |
| 11:57.24 | Kirkburn|afk | Also, grr at having to get re-used to the UK keyboard layout again |
| 12:00.16 | winkiller | how is it different? |
| 12:00.27 | winkiller | thought uk and us both have standard qwerty |
| 12:01.33 | DuTempete | winkiller: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_layout |
| 12:01.59 | DuTempete | yes, they're qwerty, but they're definitely not the same =P |
| 12:02.13 | winkiller | bleeter: uhm.. German keyboard has $ on shift-4 |
| 12:02.26 | winkiller | and I couldn't work without $variablename |
| 12:02.44 | bleeter | the latin chars are the same, sure, but not the non-latin chars ;) |
| 12:03.05 | bleeter | winkiller: I wonder if, say, 40 years ago the german keyboard had that or if it's a recent construct for programmers ;) |
| 12:03.19 | winkiller | surely that's on wikipedia |
| 12:03.36 | bleeter | needless to say, UK keyboard has a ₤ as a standard keystroke ;) |
| 12:04.05 | winkiller | holy shit |
| 12:04.11 | winkiller | that are quite some differences |
| 12:04.23 | winkiller | useless ones, though |
| 12:04.37 | winkiller | I mean.. german has 4 more chars, but english hasn't |
| 12:05.37 | bleeter | those crazy romans! |
| 12:10.09 | DuTempete | denarii is some form of money, isn't it? |
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| 12:11.23 | bleeter | they all are, the old roman denominations, hence the hatched L (₤) for pound, s for shilling, and d for pence in the old english imperial monetary system |
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| 12:12.20 | bleeter | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/£sd |
| 12:12.27 | bleeter | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C2%A3sd |
| 12:13.06 | bleeter | the italians continued to use the hatched L as a symbol until the Euro came along |
| 12:13.58 | bleeter | well, L was more common, but it was still used - but had double lines |
| 12:15.02 | DuTempete | rofl |
| 12:15.09 | bleeter | 1 euro = 1940 lira |
| 12:15.13 | DuTempete | *nod* |
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| 12:22.18 | winkiller | yep |
| 12:22.30 | winkiller | who wants to be a millionaire? => drive to italy |
| 12:22.39 | winkiller | great fun always |
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| 12:23.05 | pcj | hmm |
| 12:24.34 | DuTempete | hmmmm |
| 12:24.48 | Dotted | hmmmmmm |
| 12:24.53 | pcj | everytime i login to wow the same person messages me asking if i can make a weapon better than one he has |
| 12:25.04 | DuTempete | Laurly... |
| 12:25.17 | DuTempete | rofl |
| 12:25.47 | DuTempete | Just start responding with nonsense; eventually he'll stop sending you tells. |
| 12:26.17 | DuTempete | Or, my favorite, "No speaka da engwish!" |
| 12:26.22 | Kirkburn|afk | Argh, so many things to update to look at |
| 12:26.48 | Kirkburn|afk | srsly, don't poke me about wiki stuff until this evening, otherwise I'll never get anything done |
| 12:27.12 | Kirkburn|afk | mmm, lovely |
| 12:27.27 | Kirkburn|afk | yay, other stuff! |
| 12:27.55 | Kirkburn|afk | Lol, I love when my magazines get an 18 rating |
| 12:28.13 | Kirkburn|afk | I'm not sure how it works though |
| 12:28.20 | pcj | Are they wrapped in brown paper on the stands? |
| 12:28.28 | Kirkburn|afk | PC Gamer gets an 18 certificate for having an 18 rated demo |
| 12:28.38 | DuTempete | hahaha |
| 12:28.43 | Kirkburn|afk | And I assume that means they can't sell the magazine to a minor |
| 12:28.48 | DuTempete | lol yes |
| 12:29.02 | DuTempete | Only one type of mag gets wrapped in colored plastic. =P |
| 12:29.07 | Kirkburn|afk | hehe |
| 12:29.35 | Kirkburn|afk | I doubt most shops would notice for a games mag though, though I think they would for the ... other type |
| 12:29.59 | Kirkburn|afk | Oooh, btw, age for buying cigarettes is going up to 18 in the UK next month :) |
| 12:30.05 | pcj | grats |
| 12:30.24 | Kirkburn|afk | What's the state in the US? |
| 12:30.39 | pcj | There are 50 of them |
| 12:31.16 | Kirkburn|afk | So, so predictable |
| 12:31.40 | pcj | Just look at the material I have to work with |
| 12:33.45 | DuTempete | 18, here, and the taxes just went up 25cents. *pain* |
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| 12:36.04 | Kirkburn|afk | DuTempete, I doubt your taxes are anywhere near ours |
| 12:36.21 | Kirkburn|afk | Also, we get massive warnings on the packets |
| 12:36.32 | DuTempete | probably, but $4 a pack is threatening my finances. |
| 12:36.33 | Kirkburn|afk | Soon to be replaced by large graphic images of what smoking does |
| 12:36.38 | DuTempete | lmao |
| 12:36.41 | Kirkburn|afk | Stop smoking then, silly |
| 12:36.50 | DuTempete | I've treid that. :( |
| 12:37.55 | DuTempete | Good news is I've cut down quite a bit. |
| 12:38.02 | DuTempete | But holidays are bad for that. |
| 12:38.28 | Kirkburn|afk | Upwards of $8 here |
| 12:39.22 | DuTempete | oh jesus. That'd be a sure cure for me. |
| 12:39.58 | Kirkburn|afk | woop, woop |
| 12:40.27 | DuTempete | That just has "danger, will robinson" written all over it... |
| 12:41.39 | Kirkburn|afk | Oh, my earlier assertion was incorrect |
| 12:41.51 | Kirkburn|afk | It's upwards of $10, possibly $11 by now |
| 12:42.09 | Kirkburn|afk | (http://www.the-tma.org.uk/page.aspx?page_id=43) |
| 12:44.03 | Kirkburn|afk | Also, 30% of the front and 40% of the back of a pack has to have WARNING text |
| 12:44.17 | DuTempete | you don't have a large robot you made from scrap parts that warns you when your life is in imminent danger, do you? |
| 12:44.24 | DuTempete | lol I'd just ignore that. |
| 12:44.51 | Kirkburn|afk | You'd be surprised how eye catching it is |
| 12:44.58 | DuTempete | hehe |
| 12:44.58 | Kirkburn|afk | There's a fair variety of warnings |
| 12:45.07 | DuTempete | But, honestly, I'd never bother buying a pack. |
| 12:45.08 | Kirkburn|afk | Stuff like SMOKING CAUSES IMPOTENCY |
| 12:45.20 | DuTempete | oh em gee! impotency?! |
| 12:49.25 | Kirkburn|afk | OH FFS |
| 12:49.39 | Kirkburn|afk | I open PC Gamer and THEY HAVE THE WRONG FRAKKIN NORTHREND MAP |
| 12:49.49 | Kirkburn|afk | They even wrote Zal'Drak |
| 12:49.50 | Kirkburn|afk | ARGH |
| 12:49.51 | Kalroth | Owned! |
| 12:50.05 | Kalroth | You should phone them and tell them about it. |
| 12:50.10 | Kirkburn|afk | It's basically a rip of the RPG map, not the real map |
| 12:50.27 | Kirkburn|afk | Aziol-Nerab ? |
| 12:50.30 | Kalroth | "Harro, is this pc gammer?? u haev teh wrong map for Northrends!" |
| 12:50.34 | Kirkburn|afk | Uldaar? |
| 12:50.45 | Kirkburn|afk | Gandrak? |
| 12:50.51 | Kirkburn|afk | Drak Tharon Keep? |
| 12:50.55 | Kirkburn|afk | FUCKING HELL |
| 12:51.03 | Kalroth | Kirkburn|afk: Well it was between that one and a map of Staten Island. |
| 12:51.11 | Kirkburn|afk | This isn't small text either |
| 12:51.18 | Kirkburn|afk | This is a full page image with giant text |
| 12:51.26 | Kirkburn|afk | And they couldn't even spell the placenames |
| 12:52.05 | Kirkburn|afk | It's an absolute disgrace |
| 12:52.23 | Kirkburn|afk | Daggerreap Bay? |
| 12:52.31 | Kirkburn|afk | *Daggereap |
| 12:52.36 | Kalroth | It's PC Gamers for crying out loud :p |
| 12:52.55 | Kalroth | It's the magazine that had a 4 page review of "Hallo 2"! |
| 12:52.57 | Kirkburn|afk | This is the most respected PC gaming magazine in the UK, and much of the world |
| 12:53.05 | Kirkburn|afk | No, not the US version |
| 12:53.14 | Kalroth | oh |
| 12:53.15 | Kirkburn|afk | The UK version is much bigger, and is the 'original' |
| 12:53.37 | Kalroth | I know, I used to read it a while back, I had a few important magazines |
| 12:53.45 | Laurly | woot i crashed visual studio |
| 12:53.51 | Kalroth | Laurly: You go, girl! |
| 12:54.15 | Laurly | hmm what did i do wrong |
| 12:54.36 | Kalroth | Kirkburn|afk: They're busy playing Bioshock 2 |
| 12:54.40 | Kirkburn|afk | haha |
| 12:54.41 | Kalroth | err, BioShock* |
| 12:54.54 | Kirkburn|afk | ZAL'DRAK, ZAL'DRAK FFS >_< |
| 12:56.51 | DuTempete | Laurly |
| 12:57.00 | Laurly | yes?` |
| 12:57.02 | DuTempete | the templates look good, but we'll see once you have them in use |
| 12:57.07 | DuTempete | just one problem |
| 12:57.18 | DuTempete | it's "skinned" =P |
| 12:57.23 | Laurly | hmm. |
| 12:57.23 | Kalroth | Uh oh |
| 12:57.27 | Kalroth | Don't let Kirk see that. |
| 12:57.40 | Laurly | im still recoding the bot to rip npc data from wowhead and dump the crap from thot |
| 12:58.30 | Kirkburn|afk | lol, I've worked out why they made the mistakes |
| 12:58.31 | DuTempete | he already knows, Kalroth ;) |
| 12:58.39 | Kirkburn|afk | They seriously did just copy the RPG map |
| 12:58.49 | Kirkburn|afk | But they ignored the fancy script |
| 12:58.55 | DuTempete | hehe |
| 12:59.02 | Kirkburn|afk | u looks like a a |
| 13:00.08 | DuTempete | Aren't you supposed to be unpacking, not screaming impotently at a magazine, and digging out ghey RPGs? |
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| 13:01.13 | Laurly | hmmm now why is vs crashing |
| 13:01.29 | DuTempete | Quit looking at it that way, you're probably scaring it. |
| 13:01.51 | Kirkburn|afk | I didn't look at the book, we have the image on the wiki |
| 13:02.02 | Kirkburn|afk | Which, I bet, is what the guy copying it did too |
| 13:02.02 | DuTempete | uh huh... |
| 13:02.17 | DuTempete | I notice you didn't say "I don't own the book." |
| 13:02.31 | Kirkburn|afk | I do :) |
| 13:04.30 | Kirkburn|afk | omfg |
| 13:04.42 | Kirkburn|afk | The screenshot captions are wrong too |
| 13:04.51 | DuTempete | Seriously, you sound like Baggins, atm... |
| 13:04.57 | Kirkburn|afk | Daggercap Bay =/= Lake Wintergrasp |
| 13:05.05 | Kirkburn|afk | No, I mean, come on |
| 13:05.10 | Kirkburn|afk | That one is just stupid |
| 13:05.39 | Kirkburn|afk | Furbolg info is accompanied by a picture of ... Warsong Hold |
| 13:05.58 | Kirkburn|afk | Dragonblight info is accompanied by a picture of ... the Howling Fjord |
| 13:06.31 | DuTempete | Don't they have to approve that shit with Blizzard before the printi t? |
| 13:06.43 | Kirkburn|afk | They got the stuff from the press CD |
| 13:06.58 | Kirkburn|afk | Probably sent it back with notes, and whoever put it together back at base had no idea what they were doing |
| 13:07.28 | Dotted | Simply a case of massive failure |
| 13:07.41 | DuTempete | lol, but I'd still have thought Blizz had to see the blues before it went into print. |
| 13:07.50 | DuTempete | But I guess not. |
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| 13:08.17 | DuTempete | That is certainly an amusing failure, though. |
| 13:08.18 | |Umbra| | Good morning |
| 13:08.23 | DuTempete | morning! |
| 13:09.48 | |Umbra| | I need to understand moving a page a little better. |
| 13:10.15 | |Umbra| | I want to move Formulas:Weapon skill to Weapon skill. |
| 13:10.32 | DuTempete | Is there already a page called Weapon skill? |
| 13:10.40 | |Umbra| | One I created last night. |
| 13:10.46 | DuTempete | hehe |
| 13:10.50 | |Umbra| | Should I have it speedy deleted so I can move it? |
| 13:10.54 | DuTempete | you're supposed to move it before you create the page |
| 13:10.59 | DuTempete | no, you don't have to |
| 13:11.14 | DuTempete | just copy/paste, and put a redirect iin Formulas:Weapon skill |
| 13:11.23 | |Umbra| | How do I move the Talk? |
| 13:11.34 | Dotted | done automatically |
| 13:11.35 | DuTempete | Same way, w/ redirect |
| 13:12.05 | |Umbra| | Bleh, sounds easier to speedy del first. |
| 13:12.27 | Dotted | then you have to do more, if you SD first :S |
| 13:12.28 | Kirkburn|afk | I've summarised my thoughts on the VP :P |
| 13:12.30 | DuTempete | you'll have to wait for the speedy dlete, anyway |
| 13:12.35 | DuTempete | lmao Kirk |
| 13:12.55 | Kirkburn|afk | hehe |
| 13:14.47 | DuTempete | Hrmm... I've been up for an hour and a half... wonder if I should have put pants on by now... |
| 13:15.26 | Kirkburn|afk | That's considerably more erotic to a Brit |
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| 13:16.15 | Kirkburn|afk | You, er, realise why? |
| 13:16.26 | Kirkburn|afk | Hey Tek |
| 13:17.49 | DuTempete | no, Kirk, I don't know why, but I'm sure it will be an interesting explanation. =P |
| 13:18.13 | Kirkburn|afk | Pants =/= trousers here |
| 13:18.20 | DuTempete | oh, yes, there's that |
| 13:18.52 | DuTempete | pcj |
| 13:18.56 | DuTempete | where's your hose? |
| 13:19.16 | Kirkburn|afk | He put it away, cause they were going to arrest him |
| 13:19.20 | DuTempete | lol |
| 13:21.43 | |Umbra| | There, flagged it as speedydelete |
| 13:22.02 | DuTempete | now you get to sit and wait for one of the lazy admins to get to it. |
| 13:22.15 | |Umbra| | Heh |
| 13:22.36 | |Umbra| | No worries, all the Attack table articles are a mess. So lots to work on. |
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| 13:28.01 | |Umbra| | Mitigation or Damage Mitigation? |
| 13:28.08 | |Umbra| | or Damage mitigation? |
| 13:28.31 | Thrae | "Bear Tanking" |
| 13:28.35 | DuTempete | Mitigation implies an aspect of armor, Damage mitigation implies overall |
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| 13:42.58 | Laurly | how to over load mysql lesson 1: import all the drop items for an npc |
| 13:43.10 | KuinKala | gz |
| 13:43.25 | Laurly | lol cant connect to mysql server... |
| 13:43.32 | Laurly | me thinks we need a timer in this |
| 13:45.18 | |Umbra| | Enhancers or Enhancements? |
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| 14:00.53 | Dotted | lol |
| 14:01.16 | DuTempete | roffle |
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| 14:46.33 | pcj | dutempete - if you get your site going to where you're looking to start including the content i can help you further |
| 14:46.46 | |Umbra|_ | That's kinda cool that it's possible for the wiki to do a talent calc |
| 14:46.52 | DuTempete | It's already there, pcj =P |
| 14:46.57 | DuTempete | Or I wouldn't have asked. =P |
| 14:47.09 | pcj | is it something i can look at |
| 14:47.15 | DuTempete | But, atm, I'm tryint to catch up on homework. |
| 14:47.18 | pcj | or do you need further help |
| 14:47.29 | DuTempete | sure, I can email it to you. |
| 14:47.35 | DuTempete | it's not uploaded anywhere, yet. |
| 14:47.47 | pcj | oh |
| 14:48.04 | DuTempete | And neither my css or js are external, yet. I want to make sure it's all working offline, before I do that. |
| 14:48.33 | DuTempete | I suppose I can upload it, though, and make the external docs. |
| 14:48.46 | DuTempete | the website I currently have up is useless, anyway. =P |
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| 15:01.17 | |Umbra|_ | I think I've rounded up all the stray attack table articles. |
| 15:02.25 | |Umbra|_ | Now I need to expand some and clean some up. |
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| 15:29.05 | Adys | KIRKBURN !! KIRKBUUUUURRRNNNN !!!! |
| 15:29.16 | Kalroth | lol |
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| 15:29.24 | Adys | Hi |
| 15:29.27 | Amberrock | OVER 9000 |
| 15:29.29 | DuTempete | There's no one by that name, here, Adys. |
| 15:29.33 | Kirkburn | yo |
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| 15:29.44 | Adys | Kirkburn: Kalroth! He wants to tell you naughty secrets ! |
| 15:30.16 | Adys | dont hide behind your |afk |
| 15:30.25 | DuTempete | he's hiding behind me! |
| 15:30.38 | Kirkburn|afk | :( and :) |
| 15:30.43 | DuTempete | OMG, that tickles, Kirk! |
| 15:31.19 | Kirkburn|afk | What's next dear, the whip, or the whipped cream? |
| 15:31.43 | DuTempete | Blindfold me, and let it be a surprise! |
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| 15:32.56 | Kirkburn|afk | ^^ |
| 15:34.05 | Kirkburn|afk | I have too many clothes :/ |
| 15:34.36 | DuTempete | I can fix that... |
| 15:34.59 | Kirkburn|afk | Freee! Free at last! |
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| 15:36.19 | deltron | anyone know a good guide for itemization for different classes? |
| 15:36.25 | Kirkburn|afk | DuTempete, but of course :) |
| 15:36.57 | Kirkburn|afk | deltron, do you mean a good guide to items for different classes? |
| 15:37.09 | DuTempete | which class, deltron? |
| 15:37.40 | Kirkburn|afk | (Itemization is the defining of the stats and loot tables) |
| 15:38.23 | deltron | well, my guild has issues on knowing what to pick |
| 15:38.38 | deltron | they gave teeth of gruul to a paladin (bad itemization) |
| 15:38.52 | deltron | well hmm |
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| 15:46.03 | DuTempete | Deltron, for that I would suggest looking at the class pages. |
| 15:46.26 | DuTempete | You can find suggestions on what stats are preferred by class spec. |
| 15:46.39 | DuTempete | For classes like Paladins, that can be very different, depending on spec |
| 15:47.11 | pcj | druids more often |
| 15:47.44 | DuTempete | that, too |
| 15:48.04 | DuTempete | druids have 4 different stat groups |
| 15:48.09 | DuTempete | vs. the pally's 3 |
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| 15:48.33 | DuTempete | deltron, I am interested, though, to hear why you think the teeth of gruul was a bad choice for a paladin |
| 15:48.45 | DuTempete | I'm assuming he/she is holy spec, yes? |
| 15:49.13 | ltcolumbo | I noticed something on the Tailoring guide |
| 15:49.17 | pcj | The spirit is kinda wishy washy |
| 15:49.24 | pcj | Might be better for a druid/priest healer |
| 15:49.28 | pcj | Not so much for paladin |
| 15:49.35 | pcj | But meh, if it's an upgrade, it's an upgrade |
| 15:49.58 | DuTempete | Aye, but controlling loot by class usually gets you into trouble =P |
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| 15:50.09 | pcj | That's what DKP was made for :P |
| 15:50.14 | ltcolumbo | nevermind |
| 15:50.17 | DuTempete | Even so w/ DKP |
| 15:50.32 | Kirkburn|afk | By a certain Mr Thott, iirc |
| 15:50.34 | DuTempete | we're waiting on you to tell us what, ltcolumbo... |
| 15:50.51 | Skosiris | Good morning, Kirkburn |
| 15:50.54 | DuTempete | Possibly, I don't remember specifically, Kirk. |
| 15:51.02 | Kirkburn|afk | Hey Skosiris |
| 15:51.03 | ltcolumbo | I think it says to make the netherweave tunic to 360? |
| 15:51.11 | ltcolumbo | but I think that is grey to me at 351 |
| 15:51.16 | Kirkburn|afk | Gryphon would know >< |
| 15:51.23 | DuTempete | You think or you are sure? |
| 15:51.32 | ltcolumbo | either that or it's green |
| 15:51.37 | Kirkburn|afk | ltcolumbo, if you're sure something is wrong, please do fix it :P |
| 15:51.40 | ltcolumbo | I'll make sure when I get home |
| 15:51.47 | ltcolumbo | I'm at work now |
| 15:51.48 | DuTempete | You may want to look before contesting it. I fyou're sure, by all means, correct it. =P |
| 15:52.01 | ltcolumbo | I could be wrong heh |
| 15:52.12 | Kirkburn|afk | Skosiris, how very restrained of you |
| 15:52.23 | DuTempete | lol |
| 15:52.26 | Kirkburn|afk | ltcolumbo, :O IRC at work? Whoever thought!? =) |
| 15:52.34 | ltcolumbo | but last night I was looking and the only thing yellow to me was the Imbued Netherweave pants and some of the new fabrics |
| 15:52.42 | ltcolumbo | Kirkburn|afk: lol |
| 15:53.12 | ltcolumbo | I have a friend who plays wow from work in his office in Houston |
| 15:53.51 | Kirkburn|afk | Finally I can unpack my Blizzcon stuff :D |
| 15:54.03 | DuTempete | lol one of my friends plays wow at work, but he's a bridge operator... it's kinda slow =P |
| 15:54.10 | ltcolumbo | rofl |
| 15:54.24 | DuTempete | Once every hour or so, he pushes a lever, and opens the bridge for a ship... |
| 15:54.35 | ltcolumbo | sounds rough |
| 15:54.40 | DuTempete | Occassionally, he has to go make a repair... 'bout it. =P |
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| 15:54.56 | ltcolumbo | and he has internet in his shack thing? |
| 15:55.08 | DuTempete | yup, dial-up, though. |
| 15:55.12 | ltcolumbo | :( |
| 15:55.22 | DuTempete | it still works. |
| 15:55.25 | ltcolumbo | better then nothing I guess |
| 15:55.34 | ltcolumbo | depends on the lag |
| 15:56.34 | pcj | why don't they use a computer for the bridge |
| 15:57.10 | Kirkburn|afk | ooh, Blizzcon placemats |
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| 15:58.32 | DuTempete | lmao |
| 15:58.34 | DuTempete | placemats? |
| 15:59.16 | pcj | you should've gotten napkin holders too |
| 15:59.19 | Kirkburn|afk | For glasses |
| 15:59.25 | pcj | coasters? |
| 15:59.30 | Kirkburn|afk | Er, yeah |
| 15:59.34 | Kirkburn|afk | They're now adorning my wall |
| 15:59.50 | DuTempete | pcj, it's a really old canadian bridge... I imagine it's not worth the trouble, esp since they need a man there to make repairs. |
| 15:59.52 | DuTempete | lol |
| 16:00.11 | Kirkburn|afk | Fridge magnets! |
| 16:00.21 | Skosiris | Kirkburn|afk: can the murloc key be used for any number of characters on the same account? |
| 16:02.06 | Fisker- | Kirkburn|afk ! |
| 16:05.39 | Kirkburn|afk | One character |
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| 16:11.24 | deltron | DuTempete: teeth of gruul is better served for a holy priest or resto druid since paladins and shaman don't benefit from spirit |
| 16:13.33 | Kirkburn|afk | Why don't they benefit? |
| 16:15.16 | deltron | don't gain anything inside the 5SR |
| 16:15.21 | Skosiris | one character :( |
| 16:15.24 | Skosiris | how to pick the one |
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| 17:30.15 | |Umbra| | What is the rationale behind putting navigation tables below the scroll? |
| 17:32.47 | |Umbra| | Also there's a typo on this protected page: http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Policies |
| 17:32.59 | |Umbra| | External links shoudl be deprecated |
| 17:33.05 | |Umbra| | Should is mispelled |
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| 17:42.54 | Gryphen | regarding nav table location, people are at the article to see the content not the nav table |
| 17:43.23 | Gryphen | fixed spelling |
| 17:43.53 | DuTempete | I sure as hell wouldn't want to open up a page that was all nav tables before I scrolled down, |Umbra|, and some of them really have that many navboxes. |
| 17:44.06 | |Umbra| | That is not consistant with {{Equipment}}, {{Settables}} or any of the professions. |
| 17:44.23 | |Umbra| | Races or classes. |
| 17:44.41 | Gryphen | they should be moved down, it was discussed previously when the zone tables were added |
| 17:45.20 | |Umbra| | I couldn't find a policy on navigation tables either. |
| 17:45.25 | |Umbra| | Is there one? |
| 17:45.27 | DuTempete | Yeah, those set tables piss me off, anyway |
| 17:45.31 | Gryphen | dont believe there is |
| 17:45.38 | DuTempete | I've been plotting a complete overhaul of them. |
| 17:46.11 | |Umbra| | Without a policy, navigation tables is a matter of preference for now? |
| 17:46.22 | DuTempete | just common practice |
| 17:46.38 | DuTempete | some navtables go on the right of the page, too, if you ahven't noticed |
| 17:46.46 | |Umbra| | As I pointed out, the most common practice for the most popular pages is that they are above the fold. |
| 17:47.04 | DuTempete | Those two you mentioned are really the only two I can think of that are on top. |
| 17:47.15 | DuTempete | Common practice /within/ the wiki, |Umbra| |
| 17:47.32 | |Umbra| | Aye, within the wiki, most nav tables are above the fold. |
| 17:47.55 | Gryphen | the initial addition of the tables were the zones, and at the time they were discussed to be at the bottom |
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| 17:48.28 | Gryphen | it doesnt make sense to go to an article for content and not have the content there |
| 17:48.49 | |Umbra| | Content is there, including a quick reference link to related content. |
| 17:49.05 | Gryphen | its only neat if you are clicking through the nav quickly and its in the same location |
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| 17:49.20 | |Umbra| | Exactly! |
| 17:49.27 | |Umbra| | Makes me happy. |
| 17:49.47 | Gryphen | but only people messing with it are happy, people reading content have to dodge a big table |
| 17:50.20 | |Umbra| | 3-4 lines is less than the typical banner size of most pages. |
| 17:50.41 | |Umbra| | People are acustomed to dodging a small amount of header space. |
| 17:50.45 | Gryphen | yeah..but it isnt a banner and it isnt advertising |
| 17:50.58 | |Umbra| | Aye, it's actually useful space! |
| 17:50.58 | Gryphen | there is a reason banners are above the fold |
| 17:51.12 | Gryphen | not because it is useful, because it has to be seen |
| 17:51.34 | Gryphen | the nav tables dont have to be seen when the article is about the content |
| 17:51.46 | |Umbra| | And many sites also have horizontal navigation below banners. |
| 17:52.04 | Gryphen | well you are going to be convinced, im done debating it |
| 17:52.12 | Gryphen | arent* |
| 17:52.17 | DuTempete | The only table I consider *having* to be above the scroll line is the toc, as that's the navbox for the article itself. Anything else I can easily be bothered to scroll down a little. It's not going to break my finger. |
| 17:53.21 | |Umbra| | I simply don't see how putting navigation at the bottom makes it useful. |
| 17:53.56 | pcj | you could write some JS |
| 17:54.03 | Gryphen | js js js |
| 17:54.12 | Gryphen | you are addicted to js s |
| 17:54.21 | |Umbra| | Without a policy in place, the location is the author/editor's preference, correct? |
| 17:54.35 | pcj | no, there's policy |
| 17:54.38 | Gryphen | well i am an editor, i prefer it at the bottom |
| 17:54.39 | pcj | an admin just decreed it |
| 17:55.03 | DuTempete | haha pcj |
| 17:55.04 | |Umbra| | wiki is democratic correct? |
| 17:55.10 | Gryphen | 3 people have objected to it so far |
| 17:55.11 | |Umbra| | Policies can be voted on? |
| 17:55.27 | DuTempete | Yeah, and you're 1-3, |Umbra| |
| 17:55.39 | DuTempete | like pcj said, write a js script =P |
| 17:55.40 | |Umbra| | Heh, I don't think that's the procedure. |
| 17:56.12 | pcj | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Policy_status_phases#Decreed_Policies |
| 17:56.16 | pcj | "without voting" |
| 17:56.55 | DuTempete | Well, then why argue it here? If you're so bull-headed about it, go put up a policy proposal. |
| 17:57.33 | |Umbra| | Atm, the location is author/editor preference and I'm comfortable with that. |
| 17:57.55 | DuTempete | Well, don't start any edit wars if it gets changed. |
| 17:58.32 | |Umbra| | I've never started any edit wars. |
| 17:58.33 | Gryphen | well you arent comfortable with it if my editor pref is to move it to the bottom and you move it to the top |
| 17:58.40 | |Umbra| | I've been an editor for more than a year. |
| 17:58.45 | |Umbra| | And almost 5K edits. |
| 17:58.55 | |Umbra| | I've always followed policy. |
| 17:59.15 | DuTempete | Good for you, I'm only giving you a warning based on your attitude here. |
| 17:59.34 | |Umbra| | ? |
| 17:59.50 | DuTempete | [13:57]<DuTempete>Well, don't start any edit wars if it gets changed. |
| 17:59.51 | |Umbra| | I asked for clarification if there was a policy since I couldn't find one. |
| 18:00.31 | pcj | And ignored the answers |
| 18:00.39 | |Umbra| | ? |
| 18:00.43 | pcj | You obviously came with preconceptions about what you wanted |
| 18:00.55 | |Umbra| | I had two posts on my talk page. |
| 18:00.59 | DuTempete | You just seem really stubborn about the idea, but don't want to propose a policy, because it seems you'd not like to see the policy go somewhere you don't want it to. |
| 18:01.01 | |Umbra| | I came and asked for clarification. |
| 18:01.07 | |Umbra| | I could not find a policy. |
| 18:01.13 | |Umbra| | I looked first. |
| 18:01.31 | |Umbra| | I didn't revert any edits anyone made. |
| 18:01.42 | |Umbra| | Instead, I get warned about attitude. |
| 18:01.45 | DuTempete | Never said youd did. |
| 18:02.10 | DuTempete | lol |
| 18:02.22 | |Umbra| | This is one of those situations where people don't like the questions being asked. |
| 18:02.25 | DuTempete | You can ignore anything I say, for all I care, I'm not an admin. |
| 18:02.46 | Gryphen | well it is also a situation where people dont like the answer to the question |
| 18:02.59 | |Umbra| | I didn't diagree with the answers. |
| 18:03.23 | |Umbra| | I only wanted to know if I was violating a policy since two people posted on my talk page and I couldn't find one. |
| 18:03.33 | |Umbra| | It did not require all this reaction. |
| 18:03.43 | DuTempete | And boy is my grammar bad, today. :( |
| 18:04.03 | pcj | *bad today. |
| 18:04.19 | DuTempete | no, "bad, today" |
| 18:04.36 | pcj | Well, then you'd be missing a full stop |
| 18:04.56 | DuTempete | a what? |
| 18:05.02 | pcj | . |
| 18:05.11 | DuTempete | bite me. =P |
| 18:05.19 | pcj | hawt |
| 18:05.25 | Gryphen | does wikipedia have a policy on the nav box location? |
| 18:05.38 | |Umbra| | I actually looked there too Gryphen. |
| 18:05.43 | |Umbra| | Before coming here to ask. |
| 18:05.52 | |Umbra| | I couldn't find one there easily. |
| 18:06.01 | Gryphen | they are all at the bottom, i just want to see their terminology if they have one |
| 18:08.10 | pcj | It would probably be at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style |
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| 18:11.28 | Gryphen | i cant find anything, i think it is just common practice there |
| 18:12.00 | |Umbra| | I suppose I could compromise and convert the nav table to a vertical template. |
| 18:12.10 | |Umbra| | And float it on the right. |
| 18:14.10 | Gryphen | it is fine as it is imho |
| 18:14.52 | DuTempete | I can't find anything either, Gryphen. |
| 18:15.07 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:15.13 | DuTempete | Oooh! |
| 18:15.14 | Tekkub | fucking cats woke me up |
| 18:15.29 | DuTempete | You should really neuter them, Tekkub. |
| 18:15.36 | Tekkub | they is |
| 18:15.46 | DuTempete | Then why on earth were they fucking? |
| 18:15.59 | Tekkub | running back and forth, knocking shit over |
| 18:16.20 | DuTempete | My dog always wakes us up in the morning, too. |
| 18:16.37 | DuTempete | He likes to run back and forth between the back door and jumping on top of us. |
| 18:17.23 | DuTempete | You should do what my fiance normally does: elbow your husband, and make him take care of the problem. |
| 18:17.35 | DuTempete | Unfortunately, that usually works with me. :( |
| 18:18.45 | pcj | tekkub has a husband? |
| 18:18.56 | DuTempete | uh-oh... |
| 18:20.05 | ggilbert | I |
| 18:20.16 | ggilbert | I'd be more worried that DuTempete's fiance has a husband |
| 18:20.38 | DuTempete | lol |
| 18:20.59 | DuTempete | No, he has a fiancée. |
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| 18:22.19 | Tekkub | husband's at work when I get up :P |
| 18:22.27 | DuTempete | lol |
| 18:23.14 | DuTempete | I'm usually up before my fiance. Even those he leaves first. He doesn't like getting up more than 15 minutes before having to leave. |
| 18:23.24 | DuTempete | What, sannse? Pinging you or hugging you? |
| 18:23.42 | Tekkub | Yea I was a geat up and leave type when I worked elsewhere |
| 18:24.00 | sannse | DuTempete: well it appears to be an autogreet, and one that hugs! ewwww! |
| 18:24.27 | DuTempete | Lol, no auto-greet, here. Just happiness that you're here! |
| 18:24.27 | pcj | lol |
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| 18:24.48 | DuTempete | I can't help it! |
| 18:24.51 | sannse | heh, well that's a bit better then... |
| 18:24.53 | DuTempete | I just love everyone! |
| 18:24.55 | DuTempete | hehe |
| 18:25.06 | DuTempete | Hey, we need some gender solidarity in here. |
| 18:25.16 | sannse | by the way, I installed anti-hug spikes all over my body... just so's you know |
| 18:25.18 | Keolah | heh. |
| 18:25.18 | DuTempete | Some of these guys still think there are no womenz on teh interweb. |
| 18:25.34 | Keolah | hehe |
| 18:25.36 | sannse | DuTempete: I /know/ there aren't... I'm actually a hutt |
| 18:25.41 | DuTempete | lol |
| 18:26.17 | DuTempete | Well, I don't really count, either. |
| 18:26.21 | pcj | nope |
| 18:26.26 | DuTempete | lol pcj |
| 18:26.30 | DuTempete | Why do you say that? |
| 18:26.36 | pcj | taken :( |
| 18:26.40 | DuTempete | lol |
| 18:27.13 | sannse | what disqualifies you? |
| 18:27.21 | DuTempete | Well, I count, people just tend to not believe me. =P |
| 18:27.27 | sannse | heh |
| 18:27.36 | sannse | http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Image:Sannsethehutt.jpg <-- proof of my hutt-ness |
| 18:27.47 | DuTempete | When you're female, and bi, /and/ on the interweb, it's like lightening hitting in the same place twice. |
| 18:27.54 | Keolah | Never believe anything you read on uncyclopedia ;p |
| 18:28.04 | DuTempete | rofl |
| 18:28.07 | sannse | hehe |
| 18:28.29 | sannse | DuTempete: try being a lesbian, that's even worse ;) |
| 18:28.30 | DuTempete | lol, that's great, Sannse. |
| 18:28.34 | DuTempete | rofl. |
| 18:28.58 | Keolah | Technically I'm pansexual. I won't exclude any sexy robots or hermaphroditic aliens that I might come across either! :) |
| 18:28.59 | sannse | weait... that sort of comes out wrong... I am not trying to bring you further over to the dark side.... honest |
| 18:29.07 | ltcolumbo | hey, does it matter what tailoring I get for a destruction/affliction spec? Spellstrike Tailor or Shadowweave... hmm |
| 18:29.12 | ltcolumbo | I chose shadowweave |
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| 18:29.19 | DuTempete | I wouldn't guess you get harassed quite as much as I do, Sannse. |
| 18:29.36 | DuTempete | rofl, I would consider it if I weren't already engaged! =p |
| 18:29.50 | ltcolumbo | oh well... I guess I'll find out on my own |
| 18:29.55 | Keolah | Like Data. Data is hot. |
| 18:30.04 | DuTempete | Well, ltcolumbo, do you SB spam? |
| 18:30.10 | sannse | DuTempete: well generally, nah... I get some nasties, but I'm clear enough about my age and lack of hotness not to get the other sort of hassles |
| 18:30.16 | ltcolumbo | I use SB and Incinerate |
| 18:30.19 | DuTempete | rofl |
| 18:30.33 | DuTempete | If you primarily use SB, go for shaddoweave, for the cloth. |
| 18:30.37 | Keolah | I'm only hot when someone casts immolate on me. |
| 18:30.56 | sannse | "actually, I'm old enough to be your mother, and twice the size of her" sorta calms the lads down a bit ;P |
| 18:30.57 | DuTempete | Otherwise, it doesn't matter, since you'll probably want Battlecast, ltcolumbo. |
| 18:31.07 | ltcolumbo | DuTempete: yeah, I do want battlecast |
| 18:31.10 | DuTempete | LOL Sannse. |
| 18:31.22 | Keolah | hehe |
| 18:31.23 | ltcolumbo | DuTempete: but I'm not ready to do the heroic instances to get the patterns |
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| 18:31.36 | DuTempete | I just leave my age ambiguous. it's more amusing that way. |
| 18:31.46 | sannse | heh, yeah |
| 18:32.04 | ltcolumbo | so, I'll use the Imbued Netherweave set with the Frozen Shadowweave shoulders and soulcloth gloves |
| 18:32.06 | DuTempete | Well, ltcolumbo, like I said; it doesn't matter. So you can start off with the shadow dmg gear, if you want. |
| 18:32.30 | ltcolumbo | yeah |
| 18:32.39 | DuTempete | The guys actually played a guessing game once, Sannse. It was hillarious. |
| 18:33.04 | DuTempete | Iirc, they concluded that i was over 40, which was perfectly fine with me. |
| 18:33.30 | sannse | heh |
| 18:33.37 | pcj | doesn't matter as long as you're legal |
| 18:33.42 | DuTempete | lol pcj |
| 18:33.52 | ltcolumbo | I do the same too, I'm tired of the a/s/l thing |
| 18:34.11 | Keolah | I've had so many amusing responses to the "asl?" question. |
| 18:34.16 | DuTempete | I don't like sharing personal info with strangers. =P |
| 18:34.34 | DuTempete | olderthanu/please/chair. |
| 18:34.37 | ltcolumbo | asl lol roflmao zomg |
| 18:34.45 | Keolah | "42/priest/Stranglethorn" |
| 18:34.49 | DuTempete | haha |
| 18:35.08 | sannse | *g* |
| 18:35.14 | ggilbert | "54/m/looking through your bedroom window" |
| 18:35.20 | DuTempete | lmao |
| 18:35.33 | sannse | not /another/ stalker... *sigh* ;) |
| 18:35.36 | DuTempete | hehe |
| 18:35.45 | DuTempete | I've got too many of those to count. |
| 18:36.01 | DuTempete | Lately, though, it's primarily Adys and Kirkburn|afk. |
| 18:36.13 | pcj | that you know of |
| 18:36.18 | DuTempete | Kind of annoying, but they are foreign, which is intriguing. |
| 18:36.22 | pcj | good stalkers don't let you know they're stalking you |
| 18:36.26 | DuTempete | Oh, did I forget you, pcj? Silly me. |
| 18:36.37 | sannse | Kirkburn isn't foreign! |
| 18:36.55 | DuTempete | British is close enough. =P |
| 18:37.02 | sannse | not to me :) |
| 18:37.07 | sannse | I'm English |
| 18:37.10 | DuTempete | Actually, the truth about Kirkburn is that I'm stalking him back. =P |
| 18:37.47 | Fisker- | is there an addon specifically for tracking flasks or elixirs? |
| 18:37.50 | sannse | well I'm following him into the Wikia offices soon (although I think he leaves before I get there... I hope so, I need the appartment) |
| 18:37.51 | pcj | tracking? |
| 18:37.53 | Fisker- | and* |
| 18:37.54 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 18:37.57 | Fisker- | checking if people got them |
| 18:37.59 | Fisker- | on |
| 18:38.02 | Keolah | Stalkers aren't so bad so long as they're not the kind with severe mental issues. ;p |
| 18:38.12 | DuTempete | OMGZ Fisker-! What that a complete English sentence???!! |
| 18:38.17 | pcj | Was* |
| 18:38.31 | Fisker- | good game |
| 18:38.31 | DuTempete | which offices, Sannse? |
| 18:38.33 | Keolah | I once knew this guy who believed himself to be the immortal reincarnation of an ancient Chinese warrior princess and destined to be my mate for all eternity, and had amazing electromantic powers and could turn on and off electronic devices just by walking past them. |
| 18:38.48 | sannse | DuTempete: San Mateo |
| 18:38.49 | pcj | that was you keolah? crap |
| 18:38.59 | ggilbert | Were those amazing powers called arms? |
| 18:39.04 | DuTempete | He's already left. He just got home, today, Sannse. |
| 18:39.28 | sannse | ah, the appartment is all mine then - yay |
| 18:39.29 | Keolah | To make matters worse, he was a terrible roleplayer and cheated in games. ;p |
| 18:39.31 | DuTempete | hehe |
| 18:39.38 | DuTempete | Just watch out for the fleas! |
| 18:39.45 | DuTempete | lol keolah |
| 18:40.04 | sannse | and soemthing I want to do while I'm over there... <drumroll> is try WOW |
| 18:40.11 | DuTempete | lmao |
| 18:40.13 | sannse | say hello to your latest newbie :P |
| 18:40.17 | pcj | hello |
| 18:40.20 | Keolah | And all his characters _always_ wanted to get together with mine, regardless of pecies, gender and sexual orientation ;p |
| 18:40.23 | Keolah | species, even. |
| 18:40.31 | DuTempete | eeew |
| 18:40.44 | DuTempete | EU or US servers, Sannse? |
| 18:40.51 | Keolah | Of course, most of his characters were "amazingly sexy" elves, succubi, etc ;p |
| 18:41.18 | sannse | dunno, I have a good friend who plays on the EU, so ... |
| 18:41.25 | sannse | and 3D friend at that |
| 18:41.26 | Keolah | (Succubi weren't sexy enough for him, so he even invented a species he called 'aphrodites' that supposedly made everyone in the room immediately fall in love with them just by walking into the room) |
| 18:41.39 | Keolah | Did I mention he was a terrible rper? :p |
| 18:41.41 | DuTempete | Well, if you go US, I'm more'n happy to show you about. |
| 18:41.49 | sannse | thanks :) |
| 18:41.51 | DuTempete | Thraebot: c US Drak'thul Baberi |
| 18:41.57 | ThraeBot | DuTempete: Baberi, Level 70 Gnome Warlock (42/19/0). 9754 HP; 10006 Mana; 108 mana regen; 4 mp5; 17 spell crit; 128 spell hit; 744 +spell dmg/heal; 4.47% dodge; 10 arcane resist (+10);[[ TBR: 579 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/27qxzy ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2pfj4l ][ Updated: Thu Aug 30 14:52:28 2007 ]] |
| 18:42.06 | DuTempete | and |
| 18:42.16 | DuTempete | Thraebot: c US Drak'thul Chaeos |
| 18:42.20 | ThraeBot | DuTempete: Chaeos, Level 24 Draenei Priest (7/3/5). 603 HP; 1880 Mana; 91 mana regen; 4.67% dodge; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 48 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yr2sb9 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3ajrjw ][ Updated: Thu Aug 30 14:52:52 2007 ]] |
| 18:42.29 | DuTempete | my current alt |
| 18:42.41 | sannse | what's the middle bit? Drak'thul? |
| 18:42.45 | pcj | realm |
| 18:42.46 | DuTempete | oh, sec while I zone out and dream of adorable British men. |
| 18:43.06 | Keolah | hehe |
| 18:43.18 | DuTempete | [[User:DuTempete]] shoudl have links to my server and guild infos |
| 18:43.18 | [NewsBot] | DuTempete meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/User:DuTempete |
| 18:43.21 | sannse | I can't remember what realm my friend plays in though .. will have to find out |
| 18:43.22 | Keolah | I have too many alts :S |
| 18:43.28 | DuTempete | ahhhh... |
| 18:44.22 | Keolah | But I can never decide what to play! Everything is so fun! |
| 18:45.24 | DuTempete | Ahhh... Scott Matthews. I've got the album on repeat. Elusive totally gets to me. |
| 18:45.51 | DuTempete | He is *so* talented. |
| 18:46.04 | DuTempete | I haven't heard a guitarist this good in a long time. |
| 18:47.02 | DuTempete | He reminds me a bit of Van Morrison, but much better. |
| 18:47.27 | Keolah | My highest level chars are a level 42 troll priest and a level 31 dwarf paladin. |
| 18:47.39 | DuTempete | lol, alt-itis, eh? |
| 18:47.52 | DuTempete | You should see a doctor for that. |
| 18:48.22 | DuTempete | Sannse: http://youtube.com/watch?v=NAcP-HT_wM0 |
| 18:48.39 | Keolah | And uh, around 16 or so different characters between level 6 and 18. |
| 18:48.39 | sannse | *click* |
| 18:48.58 | DuTempete | There aren't even that many classes, Keolah! |
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| 18:49.25 | Keolah | Well, I have to have one of each class of both alliance and horde! |
| 18:49.33 | DuTempete | lol |
| 18:49.48 | DuTempete | brb, making another cup of tea |
| 18:50.01 | Keolah | At least I'm not trying to have one of every possible race/class combo. |
| 18:50.53 | sannse | Thraebot: c EU Bronze Dragonflight Anyanka |
| 18:50.58 | ThraeBot | sannse: Anyanka, Level 70 Blood Elf Warlock (19/42/0). 8188 HP; 7148 Mana; 140 mana regen; 12 mp5; 183 spell crit; 16 spell hit; 608 +spell dmg; 107 frost dmg (715); 107 shadow dmg (715); 4.39% dodge; +35 all resists (+5 all);[[ TBR: 1221 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ysehoq ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/34t2w8 ][ Updated: Thu Aug 30 15:01:30 2007 ]] |
| 18:51.04 | sannse | yay! |
| 18:51.09 | sannse | that's my friend :) |
| 18:52.02 | DuTempete | awesome ;) |
| 18:52.52 | DuTempete | I've heard that name somewhere... |
| 18:53.01 | Keolah | Probably stole it from Buffy ;p |
| 18:53.06 | DuTempete | yeah!! |
| 18:53.09 | DuTempete | Anya! |
| 18:53.56 | sannse | yeah, that's where it came from :) |
| 18:54.04 | sannse | good music, DuTempete |
| 18:54.06 | DuTempete | hehe |
| 18:54.12 | DuTempete | Oh, you're damn right it is. |
| 18:54.27 | DuTempete | I'm thinking of dropping Kirkburn |
| 18:54.43 | sannse | awww... poor Kirkburn |
| 18:54.44 | DuTempete | err Kirkburn|afk, to stalk Scott Matthews. |
| 18:55.06 | DuTempete | Sadly, I don't have anything of his to fondle, yet. |
| 18:55.56 | sannse | don't worry, you just need to break into his house, and all will be sorted! |
| 18:56.53 | DuTempete | Oh, that's not a bad idea! |
| 18:57.18 | DuTempete | Think you can stop by Chicago on your way back home, and tuck me into a suitcase? |
| 18:57.28 | DuTempete | I'm too broke to buy airfare to England. =P |
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| 18:57.47 | sannse | sorry, I fully expect my suitcases to be too full to close |
| 18:57.53 | DuTempete | Damn. |
| 18:58.17 | DuTempete | I can use one of my suitcases... |
| 18:58.50 | DuTempete | I have one big enough I think I can fit into, and have room for snacks. |
| 18:59.14 | sannse | it's a rather personal question, but do you weigh less than 20kg? I think that's the limit for cases... |
| 18:59.21 | DuTempete | Shit. |
| 18:59.37 | sannse | sorry! |
| 19:00.19 | DuTempete | Anywho, speaking of suitcases, I have to go pack for the weekend. |
| 19:00.34 | AFKDuTempete | So, afkish. |
| 19:01.19 | Keolah | Have fun. |
| 19:02.06 | sannse | later |
| 19:05.24 | Gryphen | Added nav tables to MoS |
| 19:06.56 | AFKDuTempete | Thank you, Gryphen. |
| 19:07.05 | AFKDuTempete | :) |
| 19:10.15 | pcj | hah |
| 19:10.20 | pcj | CRUSH THE INFIDELS |
| 19:18.38 | |Umbra|_ | There we go. The Attack table nav template is now right floating and vertical similar to wiki's MoS. |
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| 19:24.44 | AFKDuTempete | Gryphen, maybe we should include some sort of guide for what qualifies as a footer, vs. a sidebar navtable? |
| 19:25.13 | AFKDuTempete | Typically, sidebar navtables are for directly related pages, while footers are more like common interest. |
| 19:25.55 | AFKDuTempete | For instance: On A Kara boss page, a sidebar would be a list of Kara bosses, while a footer would be a list of Outland instances. |
| 19:25.59 | AFKDuTempete | That make sense? |
| 19:26.03 | Gryphen | yeah |
| 19:26.18 | Gryphen | i agree |
| 19:26.44 | |Umbra|_ | That's similar to wikipedia's "list of works" concept. |
| 19:26.53 | AFKDuTempete | *nod* |
| 19:27.12 | AFKDuTempete | They have an infobox that includes some directly related links, usually. |
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| 19:30.09 | |Umbra|_ | The Attack table works for me as a side bar. It also helps break up seeing long sentences stretched across the screen. |
| 19:31.42 | AFKDuTempete | I kind of like the way Wikpedia divides their MoS, too. Wikipedia:Manual of Style (templates), etc |
| 19:32.25 | AFKDuTempete | I wonder if we're getting big enough we might want to write up some more specific articles. Especially since we've been working on common css. |
| 19:32.54 | pcj | and JS |
| 19:33.57 | AFKDuTempete | well, the JS is not something the readers have to deal with. |
| 19:34.10 | AFKDuTempete | Nor the majority of the editors. |
| 19:34.45 | AFKDuTempete | Other than making sure things like the [hide] function goes into navtables. That can be included in a template MoS. |
| 19:36.49 | AFKDuTempete | *go |
| 19:49.49 | |Umbra|_ | Hmmm...I suppose we could break up the Equipment and Weapons template into side bars as wells. |
| 19:50.16 | Gryphen | as an effort to get them to the top of the page? |
| 19:50.18 | Gryphen | heh |
| 19:50.53 | AFKDuTempete | lol |
| 19:50.53 | |Umbra|_ | Side bar navigation is common throught wowwiki and wikipedia. |
| 19:51.02 | |Umbra|_ | *throughout |
| 19:51.07 | Gryphen | as well as horizontal |
| 19:51.22 | AFKDuTempete | I don't think those would qualify as a sidebar navbox, |Umbra| |
| 19:51.27 | |Umbra|_ | Actually, I don't see much horizontal except as a 'list of works'. |
| 19:51.27 | AFKDuTempete | I think it's better for a footer. |
| 19:51.50 | |Umbra|_ | What qualifies as a sidebar? |
| 19:51.52 | Gryphen | i dont think that even the attack is quite sidebar imho |
| 19:52.10 | Gryphen | but im done with that |
| 19:52.21 | |Umbra|_ | I think Combat might be a better description. |
| 19:53.20 | |Umbra|_ | If Karazhan bosses qualifies as a sidebar, then shouldn't Cloth, Leather, Mail and Plate qualify as an Armor side bar? |
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| 19:57.03 | Gryphen | by their nature they are similar, they are navigational aids no matter where they are. however, a sidebar is more directly related rather than just being similar. |
| 19:58.01 | |Umbra|_ | Cloth armor is directly related to armor, yes? |
| 20:01.09 | Gryphen | yes, but cloth armor isnt related to plate armor. side bar for cloth armor would be other cloth armor articles |
| 20:03.14 | |Umbra|_ | I don't see as much of a distinction between armor types. The main difference is the Armor value and some stats are not available on Cloth that is available on all other armor types. |
| 20:04.48 | pcj | actually, plate also has higher durability |
| 20:04.57 | pcj | and subsequently higher repair costs |
| 20:05.03 | |Umbra|_ | Oh yes, durability too. |
| 20:05.08 | |Umbra|_ | Forgot that one. |
| 20:07.30 | AFKDuTempete | I agree wtih Gryphen... equipment types should be separate, and a cloth sidebar doesn't belong in an article about armor class. |
| 20:07.54 | AFKDuTempete | Plate armor would make a good footer. |
| 20:08.06 | AFKDuTempete | Armor stats would make a good sidebar. |
| 20:08.08 | |Umbra|_ | Druids and Paladins are known for equiping different armor types for 'healing' sets and the like. They do not see armor distintions as clearly as maybe you do. |
| 20:08.57 | Gryphen | its a database of information, it has distinctions |
| 20:09.08 | AFKDuTempete | Do we have an equipment stats navtable? |
| 20:09.27 | AFKDuTempete | if not, we should make one. It would be perfect for the stats formula and description pages. |
| 20:09.37 | |Umbra|_ | No we have equipment stat articles to navigate to? |
| 20:09.53 | |Umbra|_ | Er *Do |
| 20:10.13 | AFKDuTempete | I would expect so, and also expect it to be terribly redundant. =P |
| 20:10.22 | |Umbra|_ | Heh |
| 20:10.56 | AFKDuTempete | A page about "Equipment statistics" would be better used as a glossary page, with navigation to the different types of statistics. |
| 20:11.24 | AFKDuTempete | I think I'll put that on my to do list. |
| 20:11.29 | |Umbra|_ | That sort of navigation should generate lots of traffic :-) |
| 20:13.09 | |Umbra|_ | Wonder which would result in more clicking... Armor: Cloth, Leather, Mail, Plate or Cloth Armor: Stats1, 2, 3, 4? |
| 20:13.46 | AFKDuTempete | from where? |
| 20:14.45 | |Umbra|_ | Obviously there is value in having navigation above the scroll, otherwise side bars wouldn't be prevelant throughout this wiki and wikipedia. |
| 20:15.30 | AFKDuTempete | It's not about the purpose, so much as the relevance, |Umbra|. |
| 20:15.32 | |Umbra|_ | It's just a matter of finding a consensus on what's helpful to the reader. |
| 20:15.35 | Gryphen | yes, but they arent the same |
| 20:17.08 | Gryphen | horz tables are more like highlighted category listings, sidebar are more directly related. |
| 20:17.41 | Gryphen | you can have articles in the same category that are not directly related in subject |
| 20:19.04 | |Umbra|_ | The only reason I gathered up those articles on the 'Attack table' is because they were strewn around, had inconsistant naming conventions, did not link to one another, are seriously out of date and a pain to navigate to if you want to learn how to use Defense and Resilience to manipulate the outcome of the 'Attack table'. |
| 20:19.48 | |Umbra|_ | I consider Resilience and Critical strike to be directly related. |
| 20:20.06 | |Umbra|_ | As is Defense to Miss, Block, Dodge and Parry. |
| 20:20.34 | AFKDuTempete | critical strike is perhaps one degree of association further from the others you listed, I would think. |
| 20:20.50 | AFKDuTempete | Critical Strike is perhaps better linked to through the description of resilience. |
| 20:21.01 | Gryphen | well if the article doesnt refrence one of the other articles in the nav, i dont believe them to be directly related |
| 20:21.17 | |Umbra|_ | I'll be working on cleaning those article up. |
| 20:21.25 | |Umbra|_ | So that they do explain the relationship. |
| 20:21.41 | |Umbra|_ | Like I said, they were a mess. |
| 20:21.42 | AFKDuTempete | "Defensive statistics" might make a better association for a sidebar |
| 20:21.53 | AFKDuTempete | which doesn't include critical strike. |
| 20:22.11 | |Umbra|_ | Defense directly affects pushing Critical strike off the Attack table. |
| 20:22.24 | AFKDuTempete | Yes, but they're opposites, not alike. |
| 20:22.42 | |Umbra|_ | Once you've reached a high enough Defense or Defense + Resilience you can no longer be hit by Critical strike. |
| 20:22.46 | Gryphen | if articles refrence each other in directly in their content, then i can see them as sidebar material |
| 20:22.54 | AFKDuTempete | I'm well aware of that, |Umbra|_ =P |
| 20:22.54 | Gryphen | -in |
| 20:23.23 | |Umbra|_ | As I can, I'll be reworking those articles so they better integrate. |
| 20:23.43 | |Umbra|_ | Help is also welcomed. |
| 20:23.48 | |Umbra|_ | =) |
| 20:23.56 | Gryphen | to clarify my opinion, more than a passing reference |
| 20:24.45 | AFKDuTempete | I'm still packing, and Kirkburn|afk still has me doing some things, in general. |
| 20:24.53 | AFKDuTempete | And I still need to find time to work on my pet project. |
| 20:25.03 | AFKDuTempete | [[User:DuTempete/Warlock project]] |
| 20:25.04 | [NewsBot] | AFKDuTempete meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/User:DuTempete/Warlock_project |
| 20:26.07 | Dotted | !teamspeak |
| 20:26.07 | [NewsBot] | WoWWiki Test TeamSpeak info: teamspeak://ts.wowwiki.bxd.dk:8769 |
| 20:26.20 | Dotted | Feel free to (ab)use it |
| 20:27.31 | AFKDuTempete | teamspeak?! |
| 20:27.38 | AFKDuTempete | sweeeet |
| 20:27.39 | Dotted | idd |
| 20:27.48 | AFKDuTempete | idd? |
| 20:27.49 | Dotted | just for testing |
| 20:27.51 | Dotted | indeed |
| 20:27.56 | pcj | ts wtf |
| 20:27.58 | AFKDuTempete | oh |
| 20:27.59 | pcj | vent imo |
| 20:28.09 | AFKDuTempete | no mac users want vent |
| 20:28.16 | AFKDuTempete | I hate TS, but I'm willing to use it. |
| 20:28.23 | Dotted | vent is stupid, gay UI and gay lol-no-backwards-compatibility |
| 20:28.33 | AFKDuTempete | what kind of test, Dotted? |
| 20:28.53 | AFKDuTempete | It's really easy to update, Dotted. it isn't a big dea. |
| 20:28.54 | Dotted | lets-see-if-this-ruins-my-bandwidth :p |
| 20:28.55 | AFKDuTempete | *deal |
| 20:28.59 | AFKDuTempete | rofl |
| 20:29.15 | Gryphen | vent sux |
| 20:29.24 | Dotted | i forgot the oh-lol-restrictions-for-servers |
| 20:29.26 | AFKDuTempete | Well, I'd help you test it, but I'm busy afkish, atm. :( |
| 20:29.27 | |Umbra|_ | How can Ventrilo be stupid, fun and fabulous? |
| 20:29.31 | AFKDuTempete | when I have time to sit down, sure. |
| 20:29.43 | Gryphen | only thing good about vent is audio |
| 20:29.52 | AFKDuTempete | nono |Umbra| it's "stupid fun, and fabulous" |
| 20:29.52 | Gryphen | the app is a pos |
| 20:29.59 | Dotted | Gryphen idd |
| 20:30.13 | AFKDuTempete | well I don't disagree with that. |
| 20:30.22 | AFKDuTempete | The reason I hate TS is because of the audio. |
| 20:30.23 | Dotted | server is pos aswell |
| 20:30.42 | Dotted | AFKDuTempete that can be changed you know entirely depends on the codec |
| 20:30.55 | |Umbra|_ | I've never been on a TS that sounds right. |
| 20:30.56 | AFKDuTempete | Gryph, why don't you pop that in the Topic? I know I'll forget the addy, later. |
| 20:31.07 | AFKDuTempete | Neither have I, Dotted, and I've been on a number of them. |
| 20:31.19 | Gryphen | cause it doesnt sound very permanent at the moment |
| 20:31.24 | AFKDuTempete | okily ;) |
| 20:31.39 | AFKDuTempete | I should write it down, then. =P |
| 20:34.15 | |Umbra|_ | Any tested WoW's voip yet? |
| 20:35.08 | Gryphen | plus I'm in the about box for TS ;) |
| 20:35.31 | Gryphen | havent tried it yet |
| 20:35.39 | Dotted | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/128296725400157500iarenotuhtoy.jpg |
| 20:35.51 | Dotted | [@Gryphen]: plus I'm in the about box for TS ;) <- huh? |
| 20:36.03 | Gryphen | about > other credits tab |
| 20:36.14 | Dotted | *confused* |
| 20:36.50 | Gryphen | o,O |
| 20:41.00 | Dotted | AFKDuTempete http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#Test_Teamspeak_online |
| 20:41.34 | AFKDuTempete | Roxxors, Dotted. |
| 20:41.51 | Dotted | Gryphen ahh i see, whats your name then? |
| 20:42.02 | Gryphen | Ryan Snook |
| 20:42.09 | Dotted | ah right |
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| 20:46.53 | Dotted | btw AFKDuTempete TeamSpeak can use the same codec as vent so that shouldnt be a problem at all then :D |
| 20:48.21 | Dotted | and vent can use the same codec as TS |
| 20:48.47 | Gryphen | however, its more than the codec that makes the diff |
| 20:49.30 | Gryphen | i dont think it will sound the same with the same codec |
| 20:50.22 | Dotted | well TS must have sucky coders then judging by the TS bashing ;) |
| 20:51.02 | Gryphen | they are writing ts3 slowly |
| 20:51.32 | Dotted | looking forward to it, hopefully they will fix the sub-channel issue |
| 20:52.12 | Gryphen | vent has nicer sound, but the client gui and backend integration is really lacking |
| 20:52.30 | Gryphen | ts may be purple, but it doesnt require 500 popups to login |
| 20:52.46 | Dotted | tru dat |
| 20:53.13 | Dotted | im just not that sure if vent really got nicer sound |
| 20:53.21 | Gryphen | i use a color mod to change the color from purple tho :) |
| 20:53.57 | Gryphen | and vent costs unless you restrict yourself from the latest version or do other work-arounds |
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| 20:56.07 | Dotted | thats why i hate vent the most |
| 20:56.13 | Dotted | too much trouble |
| 21:03.40 | ggilbert | Yeah, the thing that made me choose TS originally over Vent was the server licensing. |
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| 21:22.42 | Dotted | g'night |
| 21:34.39 | pcj | no it's a trap |
| 21:39.18 | Sky2042 | pcj: you changed your tooltip script a bit, I see. however, it's not perfect: not all my tooltips are showing up. |
| 21:39.29 | pcj | which ones |
| 21:39.36 | Thrae | !explicit |
| 21:39.36 | ThraeBot | Thrae: OK, I will now only respond to commands in this channel when addressed by ThraeBot: <command>. Note the ! is not needed. |
| 21:40.26 | Sky2042 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Elixir_of_Fortitude on page http://www.wowwiki.com/Freedom_for_All_Creatures_quest_chain . Perhaps i need to shift reload, as i had to edit in the onlyincludes |
| 21:40.45 | Sky2042 | no, still doesn't work |
| 21:41.07 | Sky2042 | in either usage |
| 21:41.17 | Sky2042 | i suspect it to be the name change of {{loot}} |
| 21:41.33 | Sky2042 | instead of [Elixer of x] it's [Elixers of x] |
| 21:43.23 | pcj | Yep |
| 21:43.41 | pcj | The tooltip attempts to retrieve the item name from the link text |
| 21:44.17 | Sky2042 | oi |
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| 21:47.08 | twoshadetod | hey anyone here know where i can get a full list of emotes? i saw one today i've never seen before and want it! |
| 21:48.11 | pcj | http://www.wowwiki.com/Emote |
| 21:49.00 | twoshadetod | damn thats not full |
| 21:49.19 | twoshadetod | this one was for isntnace "twoshadetod order's you to kill blq" |
| 21:49.36 | twoshadetod | or others owuld see "twoshadetod order's pcj to kill blq" |
| 21:51.44 | amro | twoshadetod: you can use custom emotes using /me |
| 21:51.46 | twoshadetod | are most of the people in this channel wow players or site admin's /maintaners |
| 21:51.50 | twoshadetod | yeah i know this was a reala one |
| 21:51.58 | twoshadetod | a horde did it to me and im alliance |
| 21:52.15 | twoshadetod | i was amazed, it was amuzing becuase he ordered me to kill this other horde |
| 21:52.38 | twoshadetod | yeah the /me is awsome for same faction things, but this was a "predefined" for a lack of better words emote |
| 21:52.44 | twoshadetod | can't find it anywhere , really stumping me |
| 21:52.44 | pcj | http://www.wowwiki.com/Emotes_%28list%29 |
| 21:52.49 | pcj | /openfire |
| 21:52.56 | twoshadetod | i was just about to say that |
| 21:52.59 | twoshadetod | closest thing to it i can find |
| 21:53.02 | twoshadetod | but this said kill |
| 21:53.23 | twoshadetod | and he did it a few times must have been untargetted one time cuz it just said "hordeguy orders you to kill" |
| 21:53.28 | twoshadetod | or maybe to be killed |
| 21:53.30 | twoshadetod | not sure |
| 21:53.39 | twoshadetod | but wait |
| 21:53.44 | twoshadetod | how could he have 2 characters in an emote? |
| 21:53.50 | twoshadetod | how could that even be possible targeting wise |
| 21:54.32 | twoshadetod | weird i'll have to try to send a ping in the forums to him see if he'll give it up |
| 21:54.33 | amro | hm |
| 21:54.35 | amro | screenshot? |
| 21:54.36 | twoshadetod | i woudln't blame him if he didn't |
| 21:54.44 | twoshadetod | yeah i know i would be asking the same |
| 21:55.22 | twoshadetod | yeah that is even more weird, i've never seen any emote that has 2 characers that aren't the "emoter" |
| 21:55.38 | amro | are you sure bout it? |
| 21:55.43 | twoshadetod | can openfire be used like /openfire amro pcj or are all the syntaxes pretty basic |
| 21:55.45 | twoshadetod | im positive |
| 21:55.58 | amro | only one way to find ou |
| 21:56.02 | amro | out* |
| 21:56.12 | twoshadetod | how? |
| 21:57.38 | amro | try /openfire in game :P |
| 21:57.44 | twoshadetod | lets saw pcj was the orderer and there as this kid in the distance named unlucky or somethign he came up to me outside the fp and I see "pcj orders you to kill unlucky" you know a gm or anyone that can find out |
| 21:57.44 | twoshadetod | ok |
| 21:58.05 | twoshadetod | yeah i did |
| 21:58.22 | twoshadetod | it's not that man it's kill im certain, i 've never seen it since then thats what made it sort of "pop" in my mind |
| 21:58.24 | twoshadetod | i was amazed |
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| 22:01.01 | amro | wait, how long ago was this? |
| 22:01.07 | twoshadetod | today |
| 22:01.21 | twoshadetod | im gettign on our realm forums and going to ask |
| 22:01.30 | twoshadetod | i dont remember the guys name that ordered me, but i know it's in the forums alot |
| 22:01.54 | twoshadetod | either way im sure if i ask someone is gonna know if he dons't repond |
| 22:02.22 | twoshadetod | a guildie says it might have been a gm,but it didn't say gm anything |
| 22:02.27 | twoshadetod | it appeared lke a regular player |
| 22:02.42 | twoshadetod | and im sure they wouldnt have time to screw around you can't get them if you need em, i've never seen one myself |
| 22:03.59 | amro | they do walk around |
| 22:04.06 | amro | but they have badass glowing weapons |
| 22:04.13 | amro | and <GM> before their names |
| 22:04.20 | twoshadetod | lol |
| 22:04.28 | twoshadetod | yeah i see screenshots it's like a diff color and GM in it |
| 22:05.15 | twoshadetod | he kept doing it over and over, one time he must have not trgeted or something cuz it says "orders you to be killed" or "orders you to kill" but i can't remeber which |
| 22:07.25 | twoshadetod | is there any bc weapon that slows boss melee speed? |
| 22:07.40 | twoshadetod | like players and mobs but also dungeon boss's |
| 22:08.21 | pcj | ok the itemtooltip.js has been updated, tooltips no longer self destruct or hang |
| 22:11.36 | Sky2042 | twoshadetod: most of the people in this channel: yes and no. a lot of us are wow players, some aren't. maintainers is a bad word; we prefer "editors" :) |
| 22:11.45 | Sky2042 | loooooooooool |
| 22:11.48 | Sky2042 | i suck |
| 22:11.53 | Sky2042 | talk about old message |
| 22:12.05 | pcj | scroll down imo |
| 22:12.07 | Gryphen | tooltip still doesnt follow cursor in ie when scrolling down |
| 22:13.55 | twoshadetod | Ok Sky2042 , I just didn't want to ask stuff in a channel that is only meant to discuss "posts" or things relating to the site and not "in-game" (not coming up with the right words today :p) |
| 22:14.12 | Sky2042 | hehe |
| 22:14.23 | Sky2042 | i'd suggest joining #wowhead also, if you haven't done so already :) |
| 22:14.23 | Gryphen | now i got the display to reverse, the tooltip shows when not mousing over the link and dissapears when mousing over the link |
| 22:14.39 | Sky2042 | LOL |
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| 22:17.55 | pcj | refresh cache, i just patched that :P |
| 22:18.33 | dreamss2 | just got my games for windows mag |
| 22:18.36 | dreamss2 | loads of info |
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| 22:21.03 | pcj | why does http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Mal%27Ganis_US/ProfessionsHeader use class="plainlinks" |
| 22:21.29 | Gryphen | because i made it do that |
| 22:21.43 | pcj | why, you don't have any remote URLs |
| 22:21.52 | Gryphen | it did |
| 22:21.57 | Gryphen | it had edit links |
| 22:22.01 | pcj | ah |
| 22:22.17 | Gryphen | well, for another section |
| 22:22.27 | Gryphen | came from copy/paste |
| 22:22.44 | dreamss2 | "and its not just quest text and wowwiki entries.." |
| 22:26.10 | Gryphen | tootip seems to popup more reliably now, still has location issues |
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| 22:27.25 | pcj | yeah i don't see why it's doing that in IE and not FF |
| 22:27.36 | pcj | it's not throwing any errors in IE |
| 22:27.55 | pcj | the tooltip seems to not like something about that table |
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| 22:28.50 | Gryphen | even in ff it is kind of clunky, pops up from somewhere bottom right and then moves to the mouse |
| 22:30.21 | pcj | hmmm |
| 22:34.13 | pcj | ok, it shouldn't jump anymore |
| 22:35.15 | Adys | Fisker-: Ping |
| 22:35.40 | Gryphen | looking better pcj |
| 22:36.23 | Gryphen | think a loading message or no info message would be nice to have so you know something is in process or that there is no tooltip |
| 22:36.34 | Gryphen | so you arent waiting for nothing to appear heh |
| 22:37.30 | Gryphen | bbl |
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| 23:12.46 | Sky2042 | ok, i haveno idea how i did that... |
| 23:17.12 | pcj | did what |
| 23:20.40 | Sky2042 | there we go |
| 23:22.04 | Sky2042 | bagginww:http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Battle_of_Suramar |
| 23:22.10 | Sky2042 | bagginww: http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Battle_of_Suramar |
| 23:22.46 | twoshadetod | anyone here have gob jumper cables? im wondering what level the reg ones can res? |
| 23:23.02 | twoshadetod | the fact there is an XL version makes me think it might be under 40 :( just wondering |
| 23:25.45 | pcj | i think it's a certain level of engineering requirement |
| 23:26.35 | pcj | http://www.wowwiki.com/Goblin_Jumper_Cables |
| 23:26.40 | pcj | they just have a lower success rate |
| 23:28.54 | pcj | AFKDuTempete: i haven't received your e-mail yet |
| 23:38.56 | AFKDuTempete | Ah, yes, you have not. |
| 23:39.06 | AFKDuTempete | Sorry, I've been distracted with the packing. |
| 23:39.16 | AFKDuTempete | How about we wait until next week. |
| 23:39.16 | pcj | np :) |
| 23:39.23 | AFKDuTempete | I've got too much stuff to do, tonight. |
| 23:39.39 | pcj | ok idc |
| 23:40.01 | AFKDuTempete | I've still got to burn a few new cds, and get my homework ready to go. |
| 23:40.12 | AFKDuTempete | and get some homework finished before I leave, too. |
| 23:49.03 | *** join/#wowwiki NimbleRabit (n=Nimble_R@cpe-76-170-244-178.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 23:54.53 | Sky2042 | kirkburn|afk, ya here? |
