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| 00:44.40 | Kirkburn | Bibi, was Ice Caverns the name of the instance? |
| 00:44.54 | Bibi | how would I know, my english sucks |
| 00:45.01 | Bibi | just watch the interview |
| 00:45.41 | Kirkburn | yeah right |
| 00:45.45 | Dotted | Nexus |
| 00:46.13 | Dotted | but dunno really |
| 00:47.03 | Kalroth | Bibi: Do you use firefox? |
| 00:47.09 | Bibi | yes sir |
| 00:47.19 | Kalroth | Hrmf |
| 00:47.29 | Bibi | Dotted : the Nexus is the name of the whole dungeon, not the name of this particular wing |
| 00:47.35 | Kalroth | I get a huge slowdown when scrolling the mmo-champ frontpage |
| 00:47.52 | Bibi | get a better comp. |
| 00:47.58 | Bibi | (no, actually, my code sucks) |
| 00:48.02 | Bibi | (but Dotted won't fix it) |
| 00:48.23 | Kalroth | Bibi: Just tell him that he's a tissefrø. |
| 00:48.28 | Kalroth | That'll do the trick. |
| 00:48.46 | Bibi | rly ? |
| 00:49.20 | Kalroth | ya rly |
| 00:51.17 | Kirkburn | How's this for a reformatted info page? http://www.wowwiki.com/Help:Quest_articles |
| 00:51.30 | Dotted | Kalroth a pee-frog? |
| 00:51.33 | Dotted | wtf |
| 00:51.43 | Kalroth | Yup! |
| 00:51.44 | Kirkburn | o_O |
| 00:52.01 | Kalroth | Don't ask :P |
| 00:52.05 | Bibi | i'm also considering switching the site to fixed size |
| 00:52.14 | Bibi | maybe it could fix layouts problems for some people actually |
| 00:53.27 | Kalroth | Kirkburn: I like it, maybe wrap the initial quest introduction paragraph around the contents box? |
| 00:53.52 | Kirkburn | Oh, no, it was for the header design, not the actual BP :P |
| 00:53.59 | Kalroth | oh :( |
| 00:54.43 | Kirkburn | For the wrapping, it goes against the default wiki design :( |
| 00:55.17 | Kalroth | Fair enough |
| 00:57.51 | Dotted | when does daily quest reset? |
| 00:58.00 | Kalroth | 3am server time |
| 00:58.18 | Dotted | damn thought it was 4am |
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| 01:15.21 | Kirkburn | Check this! http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Argle&action=edit |
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| 01:48.19 | Kirkburn | AFKDuTempete, ! |
| 01:48.41 | AFKDuTempete | Kirkburn! |
| 01:48.56 | AFKDuTempete | morning, Sugar |
| 01:49.47 | Kirkburn | hey hey |
| 01:49.51 | Kirkburn | Check this out - http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Erictheeagle&action=edit |
| 01:50.04 | AFKDuTempete | laptop :( |
| 01:50.07 | AFKDuTempete | no sound |
| 01:50.14 | Kirkburn | Not a video? :P |
| 01:50.18 | AFKDuTempete | bUT that does mean I got the wireless working! |
| 01:50.25 | AFKDuTempete | or, durr |
| 01:50.28 | Kirkburn | =) |
| 01:50.39 | AFKDuTempete | sorry, I just woke up, literally just rolled over =P |
| 01:50.51 | AFKDuTempete | nice nap on the couch, today |
| 01:51.05 | Kirkburn | :) |
| 01:51.15 | Kirkburn | I only got up a couple of hours ago |
| 01:51.36 | AFKDuTempete | oooh! I've always wondered if that was ever going to show up on the edit page! |
| 01:53.00 | Kirkburn | I'm slow and forgetful :P |
| 01:53.10 | AFKDuTempete | brb, moving to the office |
| 02:00.35 | AFKDuTempete | yay! officey wireless goodness! |
| 02:01.02 | Kirkburn | woo |
| 02:01.29 | DuTempete | why is there a box around the links, though? |
| 02:01.34 | DuTempete | it's eew |
| 02:03.23 | DuTempete | eek, only 20 sign-ups for Gruul's :( |
| 02:06.55 | Kirkburn | >< |
| 02:07.04 | Kirkburn | boxless now |
| 02:07.24 | DuTempete | oh! much prettier! |
| 02:08.11 | DuTempete | lose the elipses after "This article is for"; replace it with a colon |
| 02:08.35 | Kirkburn | k |
| 02:16.53 | DuTempete | mmmmmmm pizza |
| 02:17.07 | DuTempete | my honey is so wonderful |
| 02:17.37 | dreamss2 | what are the level ranges for BG |
| 02:17.39 | dreamss2 | 61-70 |
| 02:17.41 | dreamss2 | or 60-70 |
| 02:18.04 | DuTempete | 61+ iirc |
| 02:18.31 | DuTempete | no, |
| 02:18.38 | DuTempete | 60-69 |
| 02:18.51 | dreamss2 | ahh 51-60 for av and 61-69 70 for everything else |
| 02:19.45 | Kirkburn | Pizza? Yum! |
| 02:20.22 | DuTempete | Yus; Papa John's Super Pizza of Meatiness. |
| 02:23.52 | DuTempete | no brits on my vent server :( |
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| 02:32.21 | DuTempete | thraebot c us Drak'thul Baberi us Drak'thul Darkmonk |
| 02:32.49 | DuTempete | Thraebot: vs US Drak'thul Baberi US Drak'thul Darkmonk |
| 02:32.50 | ThraeBot | DuTempete: Baberi vs Darkmonk! It's a showdown! ...But wait, what's this?! Baberi wins by 6721406 TBRs! Wow, that's GOTTA hurt. |
| 02:32.56 | DuTempete | muahaha! |
| 02:32.59 | DuTempete | lol |
| 02:33.13 | DuTempete | I ween! |
| 02:33.35 | pcj | thraebot c us drak'thul darkmonk |
| 02:33.56 | DuTempete | Thraebot: c US Drak'thul Baberi |
| 02:34.05 | ThraeBot | DuTempete: Baberi, Level 70 Gnome Warlock (42/19/0). 10825 HP; 10006 Mana; 108 mana regen; 4 mp5; 17 spell crit; 128 spell hit; 874 +spell dmg; 4.47% dodge; 10 arcane resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1432 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/27qxzy ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2pfj4l ][ Updated: Sat Aug 25 22:43:50 2007 ]] |
| 02:34.25 | DuTempete | Thraebot: c US Drak'thul Darkmonk |
| 02:34.33 | ThraeBot | DuTempete: Darkmonk, Level 70 Human Mage (40/0/21). 6533 HP; 9761 Mana; 172 mana regen; 26 mp5; 223 spell crit; 76 spell hit; 490 +spell dmg/heal; 406 frost dmg (896); 130 arcane dmg (620); 179 shadow dmg (669); 130 fire dmg (620); 5.26% dodge; 48 resilience;[[ TBR: 2767 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2eds4p ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2kk39w ][ Updated: Sat Aug 25 22:44:19 2007 ]] |
| 02:34.35 | pcj | thraebot c us drak'thul darkmonk |
| 02:34.38 | DuTempete | crit mage v afflic lock =P |
| 02:34.50 | DuTempete | not much of a comparison =P |
| 02:53.36 | DuTempete | alrighty, afkish while I'm in Gruul's |
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| 03:22.08 | Kirkburn | Ooh, this in funky - http://www.neatorama.com/2007/08/24/englihs-editer/ |
| 03:22.26 | Kirkburn | *is |
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| 04:12.03 | Droffats | Going through my backlog of Kirkburn links. You get 20 QI points for the QI link. New favorite (er... favourite) show. |
| 04:21.56 | Kirkburn | :D |
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| 04:50.32 | Kirkburn | Hmm, is laurlybot not using the darktable class properly? |
| 04:50.53 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:CSS_Darktable&limit=500&from=0 |
| 04:50.58 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:CSS_Darktable_th&limit=500&from=0 |
| 04:51.00 | Kirkburn | :/ |
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| 04:56.00 | fireglow | anyone knows about this summoning ritual in AV? |
| 04:56.20 | fireglow | "Circle of calling", conjured up by 5 druid npcs |
| 04:58.31 | AFKDuTempete | eew, no, Kirkburn, that's not how darktable is supposed to be used |
| 04:58.50 | Kirkburn | AFKDuTempete, ? |
| 04:59.06 | AFKDuTempete | laurlybot + darktable |
| 04:59.09 | Kirkburn | Aha |
| 04:59.10 | Kirkburn | Indeed |
| 04:59.21 | Kirkburn | It's, in fact, completely wrong :P |
| 04:59.28 | AFKDuTempete | hehe |
| 04:59.34 | AFKDuTempete | did you put a note on laurly's page? |
| 05:00.12 | AFKDuTempete | joo removed my boilerplates category |
| 05:00.30 | bleeter | fireglow: sure, loot the green circle things from NPC/Players, hand them in to the druids behind north dun buldar. when enough of them are handed in, escort the druids out and watch the horde slaughter them |
| 05:00.58 | bleeter | of course, in an ideal world, the druids are escorted down to the field of strife, alliance perform a summoning ritual to summons a walking toothpic |
| 05:01.00 | Kirkburn | AFKDuTempete, cause it wasn't needed? |
| 05:01.16 | fireglow | bleeter: how many are requried to summon? |
| 05:01.19 | bleeter | who then inevitably stands around for 5 mins doing not much until moving off to get kited to horde cave and killed |
| 05:01.49 | bleeter | dunno, these days such a pointless move I ain't done it in ages. back in the day when AV was epic, it was useful. |
| 05:04.45 | bleeter | heh, I call him the toothpick so much, I had to look up his real name |
| 05:06.15 | fireglow | hehehe |
| 05:07.00 | bleeter | fireglow: 10 players http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/pvp/battlegrounds/quests-alterac.html (Ultimate Unit) |
| 05:08.15 | bleeter | though, in non-elite AV, I'd retitle that section on Blizz's page 'Ultimate waste of time' |
| 05:09.18 | Bibi | i'd retitle it "you won't have enough time anyway" |
| 05:09.28 | fireglow | ah, theres the link |
| 05:09.33 | Bibi | anyway |
| 05:09.34 | fireglow | heh, yeah probably |
| 05:09.38 | Bibi | someone give me a grinding spot for lvl 44 |
| 05:09.39 | Bibi | now |
| 05:09.51 | fireglow | can i say stv? :P |
| 05:10.00 | Bibi | I said grinding :( |
| 05:10.35 | AFKDuTempete | Well, technically, Kirkburn, it's a boilerplate, but I've only gotten response from one other person on the VP about it |
| 05:10.56 | AFKDuTempete | so it's a little slow on actually making it toward being an official boilerplate |
| 05:11.58 | Kirkburn | Oh, sorry, I thought it was a dev copy of another >< |
| 05:12.04 | AFKDuTempete | no =P |
| 05:12.06 | Kirkburn | Add the cat back :) |
| 05:14.16 | AFKDuTempete | lol ks |
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| 05:18.45 | jellywerker | hello al |
| 05:29.43 | Kirkburn | Check the second table on http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Kirkburn/Dev4 |
| 05:29.45 | Kirkburn | jellywerker, welcome |
| 05:30.35 | Kirkburn | If you look at the table in monobook, it's perfect :) |
| 05:31.19 | Kirkburn | hrm |
| 05:31.29 | Kirkburn | Maybe it'd work better if I put it in the CSS ... |
| 05:33.51 | AFKDuTempete | planning on that being a table class for the whole skin? |
| 05:33.59 | AFKDuTempete | Would probably look good in cologneblue, too |
| 05:34.04 | Kirkburn | Okay, fixed now >< |
| 05:34.09 | Kirkburn | Compare to http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=User:Kirkburn/Dev4&useskin=monobook |
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| 05:35.22 | Kirkburn | Can't be bothered with sorting the darktable stuff atm, but the navbox bit came free in the css |
| 05:36.11 | AFKDuTempete | yeah, I think I'm just going to change my hover to darktable |
| 05:37.00 | AFKDuTempete | well, no, I'm not, because if that nohover class works, which I hafven't tested yet, it could be put into the toc php code |
| 05:37.20 | Kirkburn | I'm not sure what to do about the darktable hover, cause some stuff that looks weird with the hover uses it |
| 05:38.03 | AFKDuTempete | well, first of all, it could get rid of the alternate row colors |
| 05:38.04 | Kirkburn | First converted template! http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:16_slot_bags |
| 05:38.34 | Kirkburn | Aye, certainly |
| 05:38.40 | Kirkburn | But hover looks weird on http://www.wowwiki.com/I_Am_Murloc |
| 05:38.49 | AFKDuTempete | woah... how are we gonna change that for wowwiki skin? |
| 05:39.03 | Kirkburn | woah? |
| 05:39.07 | AFKDuTempete | Yeah, it does, but that's what the nohover clas is for? |
| 05:39.10 | AFKDuTempete | it's white... |
| 05:39.15 | Kirkburn | Reload CSS |
| 05:39.35 | AFKDuTempete | phew |
| 05:39.36 | AFKDuTempete | ok ;) |
| 05:40.10 | Kirkburn | I'm going to go thru the whole category converting later |
| 05:40.43 | AFKDuTempete | cool |
| 05:41.08 | AFKDuTempete | I still have my own hover test working, so I'm not exactly sure what you did, but cool all the same ;) |
| 05:43.12 | AFKDuTempete | I'm sure it's wonderful :) |
| 05:45.08 | AFKDuTempete | but yeah, on tables like I Am Murloc, I want to test out a class that will be called to cancel the hover. |
| 05:45.29 | AFKDuTempete | gonna try to figure that out tonight or tomorrow, depending on how sleepy I am after Gruul |
| 05:47.19 | AFKDuTempete | I just thought that a common nohover class would be easier to work with than having to have people call the hover |
| 05:47.28 | AFKDuTempete | fewer cases in which you wouldn't want the hover than otherwise |
| 05:49.46 | Kirkburn | aye |
| 05:50.09 | Kirkburn | Another question - see the last template on http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Kirkburn/Dev4 |
| 05:50.24 | Kirkburn | To replace http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Alchemy |
| 05:52.13 | AFKDuTempete | yeah, I like that. It fits the skin better. And it's sexy. |
| 05:53.07 | AFKDuTempete | ok, bout to start Gruul... |
| 05:53.17 | AFKDuTempete | really afk for a bit, now ;) |
| 05:53.38 | Kirkburn | good luck! |
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| 06:53.23 | DuTempete | All done! |
| 06:53.44 | DuTempete | 52% was our best, today. Much worse than our all-time best of 18% |
| 06:56.19 | Kirkburn | :( |
| 06:57.02 | Kirkburn | Pharod? Why the hell did Adys change his name to Pharod? |
| 06:58.13 | DuTempete | he did? |
| 06:58.28 | DuTempete | no wonder Pharod was slapping me around in #wowhead |
| 06:58.34 | DuTempete | I was wondering who the fuck that was |
| 06:58.47 | Kirkburn | I think so |
| 06:58.58 | Kirkburn | I PMed him earlier, and it now says "Pharod" as his name |
| 06:59.35 | DuTempete | lol |
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| 07:00.10 | DuTempete | hrmm... he's not in this channel, but he's in #wowhead right now... but I think he's asleep, he's logged out of MSN |
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| 07:31.22 | Bibi | http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2007/august/stepmania.jpg |
| 07:31.29 | Bibi | :/ |
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| 07:35.20 | Fisker- | i love you |
| 07:36.13 | Kirkburn | <3 Bibi http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft:_Wrath_of_the_Lich_King#Extended_character_customization |
| 07:36.15 | Fisker- | A rift in the sky where you will be able to fight Malygos with a 25 person raid. (Like Gruul or Onyxia, it will be a short raid) |
| 07:36.25 | Fisker- | liek the instance portal is in the air? :P |
| 07:36.43 | Fisker- | Faster leveling |
| 07:36.44 | Fisker- | In a future patch (before the expansion), levels 20 to 60 will have the experience required per-level reduced and quests will yield 30% more experience. |
| 07:36.44 | Fisker- | yay |
| 07:36.48 | Bibi | wtf Kirkburn |
| 07:36.53 | Bibi | this page sucks |
| 07:37.04 | Bibi | only 3 mmo-champion links where you could have used up to 10 of them |
| 07:37.15 | Bibi | i'm gonna edit this. |
| 07:37.34 | Kirkburn | :O |
| 07:37.39 | Bibi | hmmm btw |
| 07:37.46 | Bibi | I think i've got better picture of the booklet somewhere |
| 07:38.03 | Fisker- | btw wtf @ your pain supression tooltip |
| 07:38.04 | Fisker- | fix fix |
| 07:38.10 | Bibi | whatwhat ? |
| 07:38.21 | Bibi | it's all fixored |
| 07:38.41 | Fisker- | looks like crap |
| 07:38.53 | Fisker- | can't even read what it says because the tooltip extends beyond the screen |
| 07:38.59 | Bibi | Kirkburn : http://worldofwarcraft.judgehype.com/index.php?page=gimages&g=674 |
| 07:39.12 | Bibi | if you want to update things like http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Wotlk-logo.jpg |
| 07:39.41 | Bibi | Fisker- : OS / Browser / Third-World country ? |
| 07:40.07 | Fisker- | PC-DOS / Links / Afghanistan |
| 07:40.08 | Bibi | try ctrl + F5 now ? |
| 07:40.09 | Fisker- | :/ |
| 07:40.14 | fireglow | lol Fisker- |
| 07:40.24 | Fisker- | didn't work |
| 07:40.28 | Fisker- | but IE7 + Win XP |
| 07:40.34 | Bibi | go fuck yourself then. |
| 07:40.46 | Bibi | no, seriously, screenshot and i'll whine to the dev |
| 07:40.58 | Fisker- | ^^ |
| 07:41.05 | Fisker- | already doing that |
| 07:41.09 | Fisker- | motherfucker |
| 07:41.24 | Fisker- | http://i11.tinypic.com/4li03eb.jpg |
| 07:41.37 | Bibi | oh yeah, it looks ugly |
| 07:42.21 | Bibi | <table id="i33206" style="max-width: 290px;"> |
| 07:42.23 | Bibi | me no understand :( |
| 07:42.38 | DuTempete | that's because you're French. |
| 07:42.47 | DuTempete | do we need to mime it fo ryou? |
| 07:43.03 | Bibi | don't you have trees to hug DuTempete ? |
| 07:43.12 | Fisker- | well IE isn't that good at understanding it either Bibi :P |
| 07:43.56 | DuTempete | That's disgusting Bibi, I wish you wouldn't proposition me like that. |
| 07:44.16 | DuTempete | pcj? |
| 07:44.35 | Thrae | The French don't use pixels (px), they use faeries (fa). Hence the confusion. To convert pixels to faeries, simply multiply by 2, subtract 7, and take the log10 of the entire result. |
| 07:44.56 | Bibi | what's a log. |
| 07:45.05 | Bibi | and what's a pixel ? |
| 07:45.18 | Bibi | are they similar to faeries ? |
| 07:45.31 | Bibi | and more important |
| 07:45.39 | Bibi | if a pixels and faeries sleep together |
| 07:45.41 | Bibi | do we get pixies ? |
| 07:47.43 | Fisker- | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Wotlk-logo.jpg <-DESTROY Kirkburn |
| 07:48.47 | Bibi | http://worldofwarcraft.judgehype.com/images.php?img=19910 + http://worldofwarcraft.judgehype.com/images.php?img=19909 |
| 07:48.49 | Bibi | = win |
| 07:49.52 | DuTempete | faeries... |
| 07:50.20 | Bibi | PIXIES ! |
| 07:50.30 | Fisker- | it's fixed mofo |
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| 07:51.12 | Bibi | oh my god, no coke left. |
| 07:53.19 | Fisker- | It is recommended that files are no larger than 150 KB; this file is 151 KB. |
| 07:53.20 | Fisker- | FUCK YOU |
| 07:55.27 | bleeter | love? ON THIS #?! |
| 07:55.30 | bleeter | I'm outta here! |
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| 07:56.15 | Kirkburn | Bibi, http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Arthas_Artwork.jpg |
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| 07:56.22 | bleeter | :P |
| 07:56.30 | Kirkburn | Welcome back, luverr |
| 07:56.36 | bleeter | hawt |
| 07:56.49 | DuTempete | !! |
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| 07:58.03 | bleeter | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:58.07 | DuTempete | hehe |
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| 07:58.46 | Fisker- | DELETE it Kirkburn |
| 07:59.14 | Kirkburn | I HAVE |
| 07:59.14 | Fisker- | It's delicious cake you must eat ~DESU |
| 07:59.23 | Fisker- | awsum thx |
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| 08:02.45 | DuTempete | sup apollo |
| 08:02.56 | Amberrock | still waking up |
| 08:03.27 | Amberrock | even though I've been listening to metal for an hour |
| 08:04.44 | DuTempete | what sort of metal? iron? steel? copper? (I didn't even know they made noises) |
| 08:05.58 | Amberrock | well >_> |
| 08:06.07 | Amberrock | by metal I meant heavy metal |
| 08:06.16 | Amberrock | as in, a kind of music |
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| 08:33.29 | Kirkburn | Tadaa! http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Main_Page&useskin=monobook |
| 08:33.40 | Kirkburn | (ctrl+f5 for proper viewing) |
| 08:33.59 | Kirkburn | It's not perfect, but it is readable finally |
| 08:34.50 | DuTempete | oh wow, yeah, that's awesome |
| 08:35.04 | DuTempete | they threw extra pipes in all over the place |
| 08:35.10 | DuTempete | I can't believe it actually worked... |
| 08:37.13 | Amberrock | http://www.wowwiki.com/Kil%27jaeden_%28tactics%29 |
| 08:37.16 | Amberrock | this is entirely stupid |
| 08:37.34 | Amberrock | it's not even confirmed Kil'Jaeden will be in the Sunwell Raid |
| 08:37.39 | Amberrock | not even the slightest hint from Blizzard |
| 08:37.41 | Fisker- | LULZ |
| 08:37.49 | Amberrock | it sounds dumb to me |
| 08:38.00 | Fisker- | A Chinese car manufactorer has made a humvee-like car called "Crazy Soldier" |
| 08:38.13 | Fisker- | Looking at the overall build quality of Chinese cars i have to agree |
| 08:38.35 | Fisker- | That car will be destroyed even by rocks flinged at it |
| 08:38.59 | Kirkburn | Amberrock, yeah |
| 08:39.28 | Amberrock | how would a majordomo of the Burning Legion be suddenly on Azeroth? |
| 08:39.29 | Amberrock | :/ |
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| 08:40.25 | Fisker- | i came |
| 08:40.29 | Fisker- | what majordomo? |
| 08:40.52 | Fisker- | Actually i'm pretty sure it's been mentioned before |
| 08:40.57 | Amberrock | Kil'Jaeden |
| 08:41.01 | Amberrock | it has? |
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| 08:44.51 | `-FISKER_Q | OMG |
| 08:45.04 | `-FISKER_Q | they have translated the sunwell trilogy to danish |
| 08:45.26 | Fisker- | i has be embarassment |
| 08:45.40 | Fisker- | http://news.curse.com/details/2592/ |
| 08:45.50 | Fisker- | but that seems to be the only information i can find about it |
| 08:46.33 | Fisker- | i vote we remove it entirely |
| 08:47.00 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Template:16_slot_bags&useskin=monobook |
| 08:47.06 | Kirkburn | It's waaaaay to early to have it anyway |
| 08:47.22 | Kirkburn | (look at the link, it's almost like we're wikipedia) |
| 08:48.23 | Fisker- | :o? |
| 08:49.17 | Kirkburn | Can anyone explain to me why the hell we have templated like http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:AlchemyFooter ?? |
| 08:51.58 | Fisker- | http://www.wowwiki.com/Kil%27jaeden_%28tactics%29 <-should we just delete this btw? |
| 08:52.25 | Fisker- | i have no idea Kirkburn O_o |
| 08:52.56 | Fisker- | http://www.wowwiki.com/Alchemy_recipes being used here |
| 08:53.07 | Fisker- | seems kind of overkill |
| 08:54.15 | Kirkburn | It's completely pointless, yes :P |
| 08:55.54 | Fisker- | http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:Expansion_Beta_Testers <-btw perhaps we should call this TBC_Beta_Testers instead? : |
| 08:55.55 | Fisker- | :P |
| 08:56.26 | Fisker- | need to prepare for WotLK |
| 08:59.17 | Kirkburn | yeah |
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| 09:00.51 | Kirkburn | Something to do! http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:AlsoSee_1 convert to AlsoSee |
| 09:01.13 | Kirkburn | Alternatively you can fix whatever the *hell* Sky was thinking when he changed alsosee --> SeeAlso |
| 09:01.39 | Kirkburn | Srsly, it was a real wtf moment |
| 09:01.58 | Kirkburn | No, wait |
| 09:02.06 | Kirkburn | He changes seealso --> AlsoSee |
| 09:02.20 | Fisker- | i'm fixing all the testers now |
| 09:02.23 | Fisker- | you gotta fix your own |
| 09:02.58 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 09:05.17 | Kirkburn | done |
| 09:05.32 | ggilbert | uh oh, I was a tester |
| 09:05.34 | ggilbert | *hides* |
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| 09:06.04 | Fisker- | http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:WotLK_Beta_Testers |
| 09:06.21 | Fisker- | :( |
| 09:06.24 | Fisker- | i watched all the pages |
| 09:08.59 | Fisker- | doh |
| 09:09.01 | Fisker- | beginners mistake |
| 09:11.29 | Kirkburn | Well, AlsoSee and AlsoSee 1 need changing to Seealso |
| 09:12.01 | Kirkburn | (For some unknown reason Sky decided to change stuff around) |
| 09:14.09 | Fisker- | can i has example? |
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| 09:15.04 | Fisker- | ah i see it |
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| 09:25.12 | bleeter | Kirkburn: gief me wotlk betar! |
| 09:26.44 | Fisker- | the bot can fix it i guess |
| 09:27.16 | Fisker- | So you want to convert any {{AlsoSee|x}} and {{AlsoSee 1|x}} into {{Seealso|x}}? |
| 09:27.57 | Fisker- | http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:FiskersManualBot wtf pcj |
| 09:29.22 | Fisker- | so Kirkburn should i proceed Y/n? |
| 09:31.27 | Kirkburn | Careful |
| 09:31.38 | Kirkburn | They have different syntax |
| 09:31.48 | Fisker- | got some examples? |
| 09:32.03 | Fisker- | I'm only changing the first part |
| 09:32.08 | Fisker- | anything after the | is left intact |
| 09:32.52 | Kirkburn | Look at them? |
| 09:34.50 | Fisker- | well as far as i can see it should be no problem |
| 09:35.49 | Kirkburn | ... |
| 09:36.09 | Kirkburn | AlsoSee and 1 have different syntax |
| 09:39.34 | Fisker- | Alright |
| 09:41.26 | Fisker- | But you wanted it all converted to Seealso? Then i'll take a look at the syntax and make sure i don't screw up :P |
| 09:43.52 | Kirkburn | Ta :) |
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| 10:11.06 | Bagginsww | huggles DuTempete |
| 10:11.19 | DuTempete | how are you, sweetie? |
| 10:11.23 | Bagginsww | good good |
| 10:11.30 | DuTempete | roxxors |
| 10:11.51 | DuTempete | what version of IE do you have on your computer? |
| 10:12.03 | Bagginsww | Uh not sure actually, hopefully the latest :p |
| 10:12.10 | DuTempete | lol |
| 10:12.21 | Bagginsww | but I haven't checked |
| 10:12.47 | DuTempete | What version of windows? |
| 10:12.49 | Bagginsww | what's the latest version? |
| 10:12.53 | DuTempete | 7 |
| 10:12.56 | Bagginsww | ok I have 7 |
| 10:13.03 | Bagginsww | still using XP |
| 10:13.08 | DuTempete | Oh, good |
| 10:13.17 | DuTempete | would you look at http://www.wowwiki.com/Race for me? |
| 10:13.36 | DuTempete | Tell me if you see any borders, or negative space on that class table |
| 10:14.51 | Bagginsww | not that I can see. |
| 10:15.09 | Bagginsww | while I'm not much for colors, at least those choices are muted. |
| 10:15.28 | Bagginsww | I hate when people use fluerescent colors in the templates :p |
| 10:15.32 | Bagginsww | and tables |
| 10:15.48 | DuTempete | aye |
| 10:15.55 | DuTempete | I hate the colors on that table =P |
| 10:16.13 | DuTempete | Kirk and I just removed about 3k bytes from the file with shitty coding |
| 10:16.32 | DuTempete | so I'm trying to make sure it still looks alright |
| 10:16.58 | DuTempete | I'm getting some negative space w/ IE6, and I can't seem to figure out how to get rid of it |
| 10:17.59 | Bagginsww | hmm |
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| 10:28.27 | Kirkburn | Yay, fixed Vorbis' sig at last |
| 10:29.03 | DuTempete | Yay! |
| 10:29.18 | Kirkburn | Bagginsww, check out http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Main_Page&useskin=monobook :) |
| 10:31.07 | DuTempete | Pharod isn't Adys. Pharod is chatting it up in #wowhead, atm |
| 10:31.33 | DuTempete | And I'm pretty sure Adys hasn't woken up, yet. =P |
| 10:32.56 | Kirkburn | They must have done some weird name swap at some point |
| 10:33.34 | Kirkburn | Chatting it up? He wrote one word! :P |
| 10:36.02 | DuTempete | well, he talked... that's something =P |
| 10:41.14 | Bagginsww | kirkburn can't say I like "white wowwiki" too used to grey. |
| 10:43.17 | DuTempete | you don't have to |
| 10:43.26 | DuTempete | it just has to be readable for those who do =P |
| 10:43.42 | DuTempete | strange lot they are... |
| 10:43.53 | Kirkburn | hehe |
| 10:44.00 | Fisker- | well it doesn't look like crap anymore |
| 10:44.01 | Fisker- | :) |
| 10:44.11 | Kirkburn | Bagginsww, it's for when we move to the new skin |
| 10:44.30 | Bagginsww | ahh so wowwiki is going white? |
| 10:44.33 | Kirkburn | Nah |
| 10:45.03 | Kirkburn | But it gives people the option, especially since the new quartz skin is designed to be easily colour changed |
| 10:45.16 | Kirkburn | (the layout is separate to the colours) |
| 10:46.47 | Fisker- | what new skin btw? |
| 10:55.23 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Preview_Default_Skin_1.gif |
| 10:55.34 | Kirkburn | (that's a mock-up from a while ago) |
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| 11:09.51 | Kalroth | aw |
| 11:10.33 | DuTempete | What? He deserves it. |
| 11:10.38 | Amberrock | :D |
| 11:10.46 | Kalroth | He's just a poor frenchy, you can't blame him! |
| 11:10.55 | DuTempete | Sure I can! |
| 11:11.04 | Kirkburn | damn right |
| 11:11.18 | Kalroth | Blame his country instead! |
| 11:11.59 | Kalroth | Personally I think all french males should be neutered. |
| 11:12.01 | DuTempete | Naw, it's more fun to blame him. |
| 11:13.47 | Fisker- | lol |
| 11:14.17 | Fisker- | i got my HL2 airboat to defy gravity! |
| 11:15.19 | Kirkburn | congrats |
| 11:15.29 | Kirkburn | Were you playing Garry's Mod, perchance? |
| 11:17.44 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 11:18.09 | Fisker- | i attached a lot of thrusters to it |
| 11:18.31 | Fisker- | and because i had so many thrusters it would just start flying from the slightest bump |
| 11:18.36 | Fisker- | so i made some downforce thrusters |
| 11:19.02 | Fisker- | but i rammed into the insides of a building and i hit the loft which the downforce thrusters then made sure i would be kept on >P |
| 11:19.03 | Fisker- | :P |
| 11:19.32 | Kirkburn | >_> |
| 11:22.42 | Fisker- | i'm thinking with portals |
| 11:28.01 | Kirkburn | http://www.neatorama.com/2007/08/26/groovy-girl-is-back/ |
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| 11:35.34 | Kirkburn | THis is amazing - http://www.neatorama.com/2007/08/26/rjd2s-music-video-featuring-bill-crutch-master-shannon/ |
| 11:36.26 | Boubouille | [13:27:04] <Kirkburn> http://www.neatorama.com/2007/08/26/groovy-girl-is-back/ |
| 11:36.30 | Boubouille | this one sucks. |
| 11:36.52 | Kirkburn | well, the second link is better, once you read the blurb |
| 11:37.17 | Boubouille | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crEz8i6oVpI ! |
| 11:37.29 | Boubouille | > random crap girl ! |
| 11:38.12 | Kalroth | Doundounes?! |
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| 11:44.15 | Kirkburn | Boubouille, WOW |
| 11:44.31 | Boubouille | You can't imagine how many guys said that to me. |
| 11:51.37 | Dotted | I can't immagine how many boys have said it to you |
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| 12:02.14 | Kirkburn | http://www.neatorama.com/2007/08/21/hardcore-rollerblading/ more woiw |
| 12:02.20 | Kirkburn | and wow |
| 12:05.08 | Fisker- | Kirkburn you are beautiful :( |
| 12:06.07 | Kirkburn | :D |
| 12:06.15 | Kirkburn | That video is bloody scary |
| 12:06.21 | Kirkburn | He overtakes a MOTORBIKE |
| 12:08.04 | Fisker- | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7927497013695255026 <- is this movie from back when you could exploit the zg tokens? :P |
| 12:10.56 | pcj | Guardians of Blizzard were on the beta where Blizzard didn't want you going |
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| 12:13.50 | Bagginsww | so interesting Northrend was first mentioned in Day of the Dragon |
| 12:14.00 | Bagginsww | which also has the first mention of Naga :) |
| 12:14.03 | DuTempete | ADYS! |
| 12:15.32 | Adys | rawr |
| 12:16.18 | Dotted | Kirkburn |
| 12:16.23 | DuTempete | Look! Pharod and Adys on at the same time. |
| 12:16.39 | DuTempete | There's been this theory, all night, that you were Pharod, Adys. |
| 12:17.55 | pcj | I never believed it |
| 12:18.37 | DuTempete | Wasn't it you that first mentioned it, pcj? =P |
| 12:19.04 | pcj | <Kirkburn> Pharod? Why the hell did Adys change his name to Pharod? |
| 12:19.04 | pcj | <DuTempete> he did? |
| 12:19.04 | pcj | <DuTempete> no wonder Pharod was slapping me around in #wowhead |
| 12:19.05 | pcj | <DuTempete> I was wondering who the fuck that was |
| 12:19.06 | pcj | <Kirkburn> I think so |
| 12:19.06 | pcj | <Kirkburn> I PMed him earlier, and it now says "Pharod" as his name |
| 12:19.16 | pcj | no |
| 12:19.39 | DuTempete | lol @ scrolling. =P |
| 12:20.15 | Kirkburn | ^^ |
| 12:20.35 | Dotted | Kirkburn www.bxd.dk |
| 12:20.58 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 12:21.45 | Dotted | had to use my own domain Adys deleted both mine and Voluspå's wiki article containing the image :( |
| 12:21.49 | Amberrock | dotted, wtf |
| 12:22.09 | bleeter | pharod -> skippy, adys -> frog ... notice the difference? |
| 12:22.24 | Kirkburn | http://www.neatorama.com/2007/08/20/the-latino-300/ |
| 12:22.42 | Kirkburn | bloody aussies |
| 12:22.45 | Fisker- | no |
| 12:26.30 | Dotted | fuck im bored to death |
| 12:27.04 | DuTempete | yup, that would probably cure the boredom, Dotted |
| 12:27.48 | Kirkburn | http://www.neatorama.com/2007/08/20/guinea-pigs-and-cucumber/ |
| 12:28.03 | Kirkburn | and lol |
| 12:28.07 | Dotted | i cant code on newsbot or anything |
| 12:31.54 | bleeter | gnight folks |
| 12:32.19 | DuTempete | night bleeter |
| 12:33.13 | Kirkburn | night taz |
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| 12:33.38 | Kalroth | I was expecting that cucumber to explode anytime with all that giggling, but noo |
| 12:35.22 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 12:40.43 | Fisker- | http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=saHs6J0OXVI :D |
| 12:47.08 | Dotted | looooooooooooooooooooooooooool |
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| 13:03.44 | Kirkburn | Fisker-, lol |
| 13:04.49 | Kirkburn | truly there are some stupid people in the world, judging from those comments |
| 13:05.01 | Kirkburn | And yes, it was totally the atheists that did it |
| 13:05.28 | Fisker- | totally |
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| 13:17.44 | Laurly | kirk you awake? |
| 13:17.55 | Laurly | ping Kirkburn |
| 13:18.13 | Kirkburn|sleep | yup |
| 13:18.21 | Kirkburn|sleep | >_> |
| 13:18.24 | Kirkburn|sleep | <_< |
| 13:18.44 | Kirkburn|sleep | (that was a coincidence btw) |
| 13:18.44 | Laurly | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Laurlybot/Sandbox/npc/NPCs_Sells <-- show me what needs to be change im still a nub with the css in tables |
| 13:19.07 | Kirkburn|sleep | DuTempete can help you :) |
| 13:19.14 | Laurly | bot uses the same table lay out for sells,drops, quests, skin, and her tables. |
| 13:19.17 | DuTempete | crap |
| 13:19.24 | DuTempete | what if I dun wanna? |
| 13:19.25 | Kirkburn|sleep | style="blah" --> class="darktable", mainly |
| 13:19.28 | Laurly | okies if they all have to be changed then its going to be a matter have having the bot do them all |
| 13:19.40 | DuTempete | you're helping her anyway =P |
| 13:19.47 | Kirkburn|sleep | I'm not any more! |
| 13:20.05 | Laurly | i tryed changing {{CSS Darktable}} to {{darktable}} it didnt work |
| 13:20.10 | Kirkburn|sleep | whilst rolling his rrrrrrrrs |
| 13:20.21 | DuTempete | hehe |
| 13:20.32 | Kirkburn|sleep | ooh, I'm popular |
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| 13:21.05 | Kaso | Arent you back in england yet? |
| 13:21.32 | Laurly | well someone fix that page to what you want the bot to use for css and i will change it in the bot before we start generating hunderes of npc pages |
| 13:21.41 | DuTempete | I'll get it, Laurly. |
| 13:21.48 | Laurly | thanks DuTempete |
| 13:22.00 | Kirkburn|sleep | yay a lullaby |
| 13:22.22 | Kirkburn|sleep | text align left ftl as well methinks |
| 13:22.33 | Kirkburn|sleep | Anyhoo, i'm, er, sleeping soundly |
| 13:22.46 | Laurly | go for it i will change them all in the bot then we can figuer out how to change all the ones it has already made |
| 13:24.14 | Laurly | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Laurly/Sandbox1 <-- what do you think aobut that for the disambig pages? |
| 13:24.55 | DuTempete | crap, I thought I'd posted to your page about that. |
| 13:25.06 | DuTempete | I really don't think having that detailed a disambig is necessary. |
| 13:25.29 | DuTempete | Only thing I would change is using the whole name of the quest, including the parenthetical disambig. |
| 13:25.36 | Laurly | no but it might make -Eirik Ratcatcher happy |
| 13:25.46 | DuTempete | so that you see <questname> (<disambig>) |
| 13:25.49 | DuTempete | fuck him |
| 13:25.51 | DuTempete | whiner |
| 13:26.08 | Laurly | i can kinda see the point of having some extra info on it to help find the one you are after maybe just zone and start npc? |
| 13:26.16 | Laurly | or quest lvl |
| 13:26.19 | DuTempete | ask some more people what they think |
| 13:26.22 | Laurly | no but quest lvl is in quest long |
| 13:26.31 | DuTempete | they're not going to be searching for it unless they already know the quest level |
| 13:26.51 | DuTempete | or that they can do it, anyway |
| 13:27.30 | DuTempete | seriously, ask some other folks, and whatever your majority agreement is, is what you should do. |
| 13:27.42 | Laurly | put it on village pump? |
| 13:27.52 | DuTempete | good idea |
| 13:28.01 | Fisker- | I WILL STAND AND FIGHT |
| 13:28.20 | Laurly | hmm i have never put something on village pump before :) |
| 13:30.00 | DuTempete | lol |
| 13:31.20 | DuTempete | you're kidding me, we don't have the loot/vendor gossip icon? |
| 13:31.22 | DuTempete | poop |
| 13:31.45 | DuTempete | Where do we get those from, anyway? |
| 13:34.18 | Laurly | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#Quest_Disambig_pages |
| 13:34.25 | Laurly | comment away. |
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| 13:39.05 | Laurly | no to go hunt down all the darktables in the bot code |
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| 13:52.34 | DuTempete | ok, laurly. That should do it. |
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| 13:56.13 | Adys | dotted: |
| 13:56.13 | Adys | Recent activity |
| 13:56.14 | Adys | Yesterday 20:50<Adys> Now to mess with people's minds. Muhahaha. |
| 13:56.14 | Adys | 21:03<Adys> Stack meaning...? |
| 13:56.14 | Adys | 21:03<Adys> Sure, that's doable on a shadow priest. |
| 13:56.14 | Adys | 21:03*** Adys is now known as Pharod |
| 13:56.21 | Adys | Just fyi :P |
| 13:56.31 | Adys | er not dotted, Kirkburn|sleep |
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| 13:59.02 | DuTempete | lol |
| 13:59.02 | Dotted | sigh |
| 13:59.19 | DuTempete | Laurly, table finished, opinion on VP |
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| 14:00.05 | DuTempete | Well, you did a good one on Kirk Adys. He thought for sure you were the same person. =P |
| 14:00.31 | DuTempete | But I told him, no, you were asleep, and Pharod was still yapping in #wowhead. =P |
| 14:05.27 | DuTempete | Oh! |
| 14:05.31 | DuTempete | I forgot to hug Tekkub! |
| 14:09.54 | DuTempete | Ok, I think I'm gonna take a nap |
| 14:09.57 | Laurly | Quest:Tome_of_the_Cabal <-- isnt going to work it would require chaning how the bot deals with distincat names its (alliance)(#) now and its made to many pages i think to change that |
| 14:10.05 | DuTempete | oh, there you are =P |
| 14:10.23 | Laurly | yeah i havent figuredout how to get the new mirc to flash when you type my nick |
| 14:10.35 | DuTempete | lol |
| 14:10.41 | DuTempete | I don't use it, so I can't help with that. |
| 14:10.55 | Laurly | im tempted to go back a version i dont like the dumb red line or the channel crap on the left |
| 14:11.02 | DuTempete | did you look at what I did to that page? |
| 14:11.15 | Dotted | Alt+O -> IRC -> Highlight -> $me -> Edit |
| 14:11.18 | Dotted | Laurly |
| 14:11.33 | harldephin | omg |
| 14:11.50 | Laurly | i dont have a higlight option under irc anymore |
| 14:11.54 | DuTempete | I didn't mess with the names, just the way it's formatted, using ":" and "*" |
| 14:11.59 | Laurly | new version sucks |
| 14:12.03 | Dotted | ah 6.3 |
| 14:12.11 | Laurly | then the bot didnt create that one becouse she doesnt do names like that |
| 14:12.12 | Dotted | still running .21 |
| 14:12.28 | DuTempete | no, I did that =P |
| 14:12.34 | DuTempete | she created it, I just fixed it |
| 14:12.58 | DuTempete | Those are just a few of the quests I went through and redid |
| 14:12.58 | Laurly | yeah thats a lot of pages to move think we need to live with the (Side)(#) endings. |
| 14:13.08 | DuTempete | ickles. |
| 14:13.25 | Laurly | it was the consensis back in july when i started this |
| 14:13.34 | DuTempete | but that wasn't why I used it as an example, though |
| 14:13.47 | Laurly | she must have generated 2k pages last week i really think its to many to go and move them all to new names |
| 14:14.10 | Laurly | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Quest%3ATome_of_the_Cabal&diff=837724&oldid=818124 <-- it was you changed it |
| 14:14.26 | Laurly | thats how she makes distinct quest names |
| 14:15.27 | Laurly | adding the starts on it to indent them is doable i guess but it will be tricky becouse most disamb quest name arnt always part of the same quest chains |
| 14:15.44 | Dotted | Laurly Alt+B, but where to go from there i dunno |
| 14:16.15 | Laurly | test it |
| 14:16.18 | DuTempete | right, and I'm not sure how she could identify them, anyway |
| 14:16.19 | Dotted | Laurly |
| 14:16.28 | Laurly | hmm |
| 14:16.41 | DuTempete | but I think you were confused about the talk about naming quests. |
| 14:16.46 | DuTempete | It's not a big deal, done is done. |
| 14:17.19 | DuTempete | It just sucks that some of the quests she generated already have pages. |
| 14:17.29 | Laurly | yeah thats why the topic went around village pump becouse once she had generated 2k pages changing it was going to be a pain |
| 14:17.41 | DuTempete | The issue pales in comparison to the super-awesomeness that is Laurlybot. |
| 14:18.04 | Laurly | yeah basicly she gives you a place to start from humans are always going to have to go in and deal with the rest. |
| 14:18.09 | DuTempete | yup |
| 14:18.31 | Laurly | i should have npc working at speed sometime this week. |
| 14:18.39 | DuTempete | awesome |
| 14:18.53 | Laurly | i have been optimising it 1 npc a minute was to slow when we had so many to do |
| 14:19.04 | DuTempete | hehe |
| 14:19.39 | Laurly | we will still have to add race manualy on them all i cant find a website to rip from that has race on all the npc's |
| 14:20.12 | DuTempete | it's not all that important, as long as we know what zone they're in. |
| 14:20.37 | Laurly | yup shes got that |
| 14:20.46 | DuTempete | and most of them have pics, anyway |
| 14:21.08 | Laurly | yeah if it has a pic we will have to do those manualy so we dont over write existing npcs |
| 14:21.24 | Laurly | although i might be able to grab the image and use that in the new template |
| 14:22.11 | DuTempete | well, if it's just a pic, that's ok, i fyou have a way of flagging them, so that we know she went over something. we can go back into the history and get the right one. |
| 14:23.31 | Laurly | yeah i can see about adding that. |
| 14:24.07 | Laurly | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Undead_Ravager <--- some ppl will never admit what the bot does is better. |
| 14:24.10 | DuTempete | I'm going to take a nap. |
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| 14:26.23 | DuTempete | QQ: *I* wrote those two words on the page, so they're better than any two words the bot wrote, even if they are the same! |
| 14:28.36 | DuTempete | jesus christ, it was a fucking stub with one sentence in it, most of which was a {{questlong}}... |
| 14:28.45 | DuTempete | stupid people |
| 14:29.09 | DuTempete | yeah... I was going to sleep |
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| 16:50.50 | Graveheart | Hello wowwiki people? |
| 16:52.12 | Graveheart | it's quiet... |
| 16:54.26 | Graveheart | Well Regardless of it being quiet I need to ask if there are any 'lore' weapons on wowwiki other than Gorshalach or Doomhammer |
| 16:55.14 | Dotted | Ashbringer :P? |
| 16:55.43 | Graveheart | I mean ones that aren't currently in game |
| 16:55.54 | Dotted | Ashbringer :P? |
| 16:56.08 | Graveheart | or have any ion game references >.> |
| 17:09.31 | Adys | Bagginsww: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1271908740&sid=1 |
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| 17:15.02 | adaw | hi |
| 17:17.38 | Sandwichman2448 | Hi |
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| 17:34.34 | Bagginsww | adys I posted |
| 17:35.00 | Adys | hehe nice |
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| 17:59.31 | Bagginsww | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1271908740&postId=12718646215&sid=1#16 |
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| 18:01.25 | wow939 | is there a slash command to call a macro? |
| 18:04.05 | Amberrock | /Isummonthee,macro |
| 18:04.40 | Adys | why would you call a macro in a slash command that i really really dont get |
| 18:07.55 | Kalroth | wow939: You can't. It's been locked from anything but Blizzards own UI. |
| 18:08.09 | Kalroth | http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_API#Macro_Functions |
| 18:10.53 | SandwichmanAFK | Baggins, I asked that about them myself. |
| 18:11.01 | SandwichmanAFK | bagginsww |
| 18:11.11 | Bagginsww | ahh |
| 18:11.26 | Bagginsww | well I was more concerned about the rpg misconceptions LOL |
| 18:12.13 | SandwichmanAFK | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Vrykul |
| 18:12.27 | SandwichmanAFK | See the flags on my userpage? |
| 18:12.48 | SandwichmanAFK | Oh, I'm AFK. Bye. |
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| 18:32.12 | Fisker- | technically you can call a macro by using an actionbarslot |
| 18:32.17 | Fisker- | that will be disabled in 2.2 though |
| 18:32.20 | Fisker- | if i recall correctly |
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| 18:37.21 | pcj | Adys, poke |
| 18:37.28 | pcj | nvm |
| 18:37.33 | pcj | was scrolled up :P |
| 18:47.12 | Bagginsww | sandwich the fact that its his statue is that mentioned in the game? or only in the RPG? |
| 18:49.46 | Fisker- | oh hi |
| 18:50.32 | Fisker- | OH MY GOD |
| 18:50.36 | Fisker- | THIS GAME HAS 3D CHAT BUBBLES |
| 18:50.46 | SandwichmanAFK | What part of AFK do not you get. Look at the pic you uploaded. How is that not the gates? |
| 18:51.42 | Bagginsww | look I was asking if the info was in the game... I already know its from the RPG :p |
| 18:51.44 | Dotted | SandwichmanAFK you cant forbis someone highlighting you while you are afk <_> |
| 18:51.46 | Bagginsww | calm down |
| 18:52.03 | Bagginsww | someone is having a bad mood :( |
| 18:52.14 | pcj | I need a Foxbot! |
| 18:52.17 | SandwichmanAFK | It is not in the game. |
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| 18:53.59 | Fisker- | ARE YOU BAD ENOUGH DUDE? |
| 18:54.07 | Sandwichman2448 | Nope. |
| 18:55.31 | Sandwichman2448 | Sorry. |
| 18:55.48 | Sandwichman2448 | For the anger. |
| 18:58.22 | Bagginsww | NP, I forgive you. |
| 18:58.57 | Sandwichman2448 | See the flags/banners on my userpage Bagginsww? |
| 18:59.08 | Bagginsww | let me check |
| 18:59.16 | Sandwichman2448 | I uploaded them correcly this time. |
| 18:59.46 | Bagginsww | cool |
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| 19:08.08 | Sandwichman2448 | Any ones you had not seen? |
| 19:13.31 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Valley_of_Kings.jpg someone should get a good shot of each individual statue and put them up on their respective page |
| 19:13.37 | Bagginsww | for khardros and Madurin |
| 19:13.52 | Bagginsww | sandwich not sure I think I've seen them all |
| 19:15.32 | Sandwichman2448 | Should the shadow council be infoboxed? |
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| 19:19.56 | Adys | Fisker-: ping |
| 19:23.33 | Bagginsww | factionboxed sure |
| 19:23.40 | Bagginsww | sounds like a good idea |
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| 19:27.05 | Sandwichman2448 | Ok |
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| 19:28.51 | Sandwichman2448 | Should i ust the banner or gul'dan's head? |
| 19:28.57 | Sandwichman2448 | I use |
| 19:30.35 | Bagginsww | banner imo |
| 19:31.27 | foxlit | Moonkin math results: wrath sucks. Utterly. |
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| 20:06.50 | Taurmindo | http://www.wowwiki.com/Ingus |
| 20:06.55 | Taurmindo | (Move log); 23:06 . . Ingus (Talk | contribs) (User:Ingus moved to Ingus: It'll make things easier for me to edit, plus, the url will be /Ingus, not /User:Ingus. It makes things more...important. Hard to describe.) |
| 20:07.23 | Dotted | hahahahahahahahahaha |
| 20:07.25 | Dotted | lololo |
| 20:07.26 | Dotted | ahaha |
| 20:07.27 | Dotted | Kirkburn|sleep |
| 20:07.29 | Dotted | Adys |
| 20:07.31 | Dotted | ahaha |
| 20:07.35 | Dotted | Gryphen |
| 20:07.50 | Adys | wut |
| 20:08.16 | Adys | Taurmindo: lmao |
| 20:08.59 | Taurmindo | :) |
| 20:09.10 | Adys | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/search.html?forumId=10001&characterId=3883139781&sid=1 / http://www.wowwiki.com/Kyzoc sort plx |
| 20:09.21 | Adys | oh and |
| 20:09.22 | Adys | http://www.darklegacycomics.com/105.html |
| 20:12.28 | Dotted | OMFG LOL |
| 20:14.44 | Taurmindo | http://www.darklegacycomics.com/103.html :) |
| 20:15.45 | Dotted | Adys heh http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Ingus&diff=843276&oldid=843274 |
| 20:17.11 | Dotted | Adys http://www.wowwiki.com/Ingus |
| 20:17.20 | Dotted | reverted the move |
| 20:17.32 | Adys | done |
| 20:17.45 | Dotted | yay |
| 20:18.25 | Taurmindo | hehe, i love how he's done the links to his items too.. :P |
| 20:18.52 | fireglow | lal -.- |
| 20:19.11 | Taurmindo | Dotted: i think it's a character page and not an user page tbh. |
| 20:19.45 | Dotted | character page should be under a user page |
| 20:19.46 | Dotted | happy :P? |
| 20:20.19 | Taurmindo | isn't character page Server:<server> <region>/<character> ? |
| 20:20.29 | Adys | depends |
| 20:20.30 | Adys | can be both |
| 20:20.45 | Adys | if the user doesnt want others to edit it, userpage |
| 20:20.48 | Adys | otherwise, serverpage |
| 20:22.54 | Taurmindo | ah right, that's how it is. |
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| 20:26.06 | Zarnks | Hey |
| 20:26.12 | Adys | heya |
| 20:26.21 | Zarnks | Anyone else find the broken completly pointless |
| 20:27.13 | Zarnks | They use the same skeleton as the tauren,they are not as intresting as the lost ones and they look pretty unintresting. |
| 20:27.29 | Zarnks | Why didn't they just just use lost ones? |
| 20:28.11 | winkiller | Maulgar feared me into the wall at 40% and we made it to 1% with only tank and healer for the last 5%. so if I had particiopated, it would've been a firstdown. gg vlizz |
| 20:28.30 | winkiller | and autounstuck only works ooc ofc |
| 20:29.05 | Taurmindo | life sucks? :) |
| 20:30.39 | winkiller | oh yes |
| 20:31.34 | Dotted | Adys http://www.wowwiki.com/Kyzoc fixe |
| 20:31.34 | Dotted | d |
| 20:31.47 | Zarnks | Seriously the lost ones are like Blizzard's red headed step child. |
| 20:32.05 | Dotted | and WTF is http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:Posters_Lacking_ID |
| 20:32.32 | Adys | dotted: http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Kyzoc&diff=843296&oldid=843295 |
| 20:32.39 | Adys | the check the ID |
| 20:33.09 | Dotted | ahhh |
| 20:33.12 | Dotted | nice |
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| 20:36.49 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Ogre#Mount |
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| 20:52.44 | garryfre | Hey, this channel is alive!!! |
| 20:54.05 | Bagginsww | zarnks broke the color format in future race ideas.... Again.... |
| 20:54.41 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Future_race_ideas |
| 20:55.02 | garryfre | future race? is that a game? |
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| 20:55.40 | Dotted | no a sentence |
| 20:55.42 | zyth-remote | aha |
| 20:55.43 | garryfre | nm, I looked |
| 20:56.16 | zyth-remote | Anyone here any sort of expert on WoW+Wine+Intel GMA ? |
| 20:56.38 | dreamss2 | yeah the official guy is here actually |
| 20:56.52 | dreamss2 | bleeter |
| 20:56.55 | garryfre | the latest wine update already being offered to those having wine on Ubuntu seems to have busted oss and the game hangs on exit. |
| 20:57.14 | garryfre | anyone else experiencing this? |
| 20:57.17 | zyth-remote | It also breaks -d3d mode for Intel GPUs |
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| 20:57.20 | zyth-remote | garryfre: yes |
| 20:57.20 | bleeter | garryfre: yeah, I've heard re: the hang on exit in 0.9.44 |
| 20:57.38 | zyth-remote | I had to downgrade to 0.9.43 cause I can't play in d3d mode in .44 |
| 20:57.46 | zyth-remote | and opengl is broken for Intel gfx |
| 20:57.48 | garryfre | Cool, then I can rest easy, knowing its not just me and someone will fix it. |
| 20:57.57 | bleeter | garryfre: as for breaking OSS, not too sure 'bout that... I'm in OSS, sound works fine here |
| 20:58.01 | zyth-remote | My issue is, I only get like 5-7fps outdoors :S |
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| 20:58.25 | garryfre | I got the game to work fine if i switched to alsa and turned off beryl |
| 20:58.31 | zyth-remote | garryfre: oss worked fine for me, I had music, just... nothing else. |
| 20:58.38 | garryfre | I just ahve to force quit it now |
| 20:59.00 | bleeter | garryfre: there was a change in the OSS code between .43 and .44 so it'd silenty fall back to emulated acceleration, instead of telling the user to change it in it's output, so I'd be checking your audio config in WineCFG and trying to change the settings a li'l |
| 20:59.08 | garryfre | yeah, I got low frame rate when I had 3d effects on. |
| 20:59.44 | garryfre | Thanks I'll try that now |
| 20:59.50 | bleeter | for the record, I never exit from in game, ie from a toon, I always back out to the char selection screen. If game hangs from there, I can CTRL+C without risk of losing any saved variables data |
| 21:00.35 | garryfre | yep, thats what I been doing bleeter, and it hangs there , but yep, no risk. |
| 21:00.54 | dreamss2 | not trying to be an ass, but this is why i prefer to at least dualboot and game in xp |
| 21:02.21 | bleeter | dreamss2: for sure... in large groups, or small groups where group members aren't used to my... odditites, I tend to switch back to Win32 just to be nice to them ;) |
| 21:02.32 | garryfre | hehe |
| 21:03.01 | bleeter | being a mod-codeveloper, I've also gotta test our installers in Win32 anyways, so it's not as if I shouldn't have the Win32 hanging around, too ;) |
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| 21:03.10 | dreamss2 | emulating seems like a waste of cpu cycles |
| 21:03.33 | bleeter | dreamss2: Vista removed all hardware acceleration, all done in s/w now. |
| 21:03.47 | dreamss2 | huh? |
| 21:03.54 | dreamss2 | dx10 is hardware |
| 21:04.08 | bleeter | the dsound stuff is all s/w |
| 21:04.18 | dreamss2 | OH |
| 21:05.01 | bleeter | check http://www.openal.org/openal_vista.html |
| 21:05.08 | dreamss2 | dint knew that, then again im not a fan of vista |
| 21:05.19 | bleeter | to be precise, dsound3d is s/w |
| 21:05.26 | snegoviK | :) |
| 21:05.49 | bleeter | but yeah, basically, sometimes the app can't enable h/w accel, so falling back to s/w is fine in those circumstances |
| 21:06.40 | dreamss2 | i just dont wanna spent more time trying to make the game work than i spent playing it |
| 21:06.49 | dreamss2 | addons are a bitch allready |
| 21:07.19 | dreamss2 | im using XP SP3 which is alpha or beta at most, cant say it makes me wanna switch to linux |
| 21:12.20 | zyth-remote | garryfre: what do you mean low framerate with 3D effects on? |
| 21:13.40 | bleeter | zyth-remote: have you tried the registy key FPS boost hack? |
| 21:13.45 | zyth-remote | bleeter: yes I have |
| 21:13.53 | bleeter | er., that was meant for garryfre not zyth-remote |
| 21:13.59 | zyth-remote | I am using an Intel GMA 950+wine 0.9.43+Mesa 7.01 |
| 21:14.12 | zyth-remote | I *have* to run in d3d mode and get way low framerate |
| 21:14.17 | zyth-remote | opengl mode is just... garbled |
| 21:14.51 | zyth-remote | I was wondering if anyone knew how I might increase my framerate beyond 6-9fps :S |
| 21:15.13 | bleeter | everything I know's on the wiki page http://www.wowwiki.com/Linux/Wine |
| 21:15.17 | bleeter | or it's discussion page |
| 21:16.07 | snegoviK | Intel GMA ... |
| 21:16.25 | snegoviK | the best way is to get a gpu on ebay |
| 21:16.34 | snegoviK | a proper one :) |
| 21:16.38 | garryfre | I got 1 fps when starting wow tho switching from oss to alsa fixed the sound, and I had misisng resize buttons, so I turned off my 3d desktop effects, re-entered game and got normal fps |
| 21:17.23 | snegoviK | thats because for some reason your gfx card switches to 2d mode |
| 21:17.31 | zyth-remote | snegoviK: if you can replace the GPU in my notebook, I'd be impressed |
| 21:17.31 | snegoviK | and doesnt switch back when back in the game |
| 21:17.53 | snegoviK | piece of cake :P |
| 21:18.03 | garryfre | Bad graphics card ... whack whack whack. |
| 21:18.16 | snegoviK | yea laptops are problem. |
| 21:18.29 | zyth-remote | the card is fine, works fine for native apps |
| 21:18.35 | zyth-remote | it is a software or settings issue |
| 21:19.10 | zyth-remote | I can play it fine in Windows too... so the hardware is not the problem |
| 21:19.16 | garryfre | Oh I did the trying different sound settings in winecfg Could not get oss to work any more. |
| 21:19.31 | snegoviK | zyth-remote: yep, that changes everything |
| 21:19.45 | zyth-remote | I'd love to just have an nvidia card |
| 21:19.56 | zyth-remote | but I can't afford a whole new notebook for it at this point, lol |
| 21:20.29 | garryfre | When I tried exiting intead of loging out, I got the login screen sound, as if instead of exiting, it tried to log out, as if the all to exit was trying to call something in logout and hung. |
| 21:20.51 | snegoviK | :) laptops are a problem for linux overall, the problem is that hardware is often modified for specific models and default drivers become incompatible. sometimes |
| 21:20.54 | garryfre | it also hangs when I try to exit without logging in. Just more info. |
| 21:21.00 | snegoviK | and you get absolutely 0% support |
| 21:21.12 | snegoviK | so there are no driver releases especially for non-native os |
| 21:21.26 | garryfre | I've seen hardware change even in the same model |
| 21:22.04 | zyth-remote | snegoviK: all my HW is Intel and actually, everything I have works, and the graphics drivers are open source |
| 21:22.11 | snegoviK | for eg my laptop has ATI Mobility Radeon X600 |
| 21:22.12 | zyth-remote | the issue is some bug in wine and/or wow |
| 21:22.31 | snegoviK | doesnt match linux drivers... whatever i tried it just doesnt want to work |
| 21:23.39 | snegoviK | zyth-remote: thats what i dont like about linux, it makes trivial things so complicated :D |
| 21:24.00 | snegoviK | if you dont know what your doing (my case) that is |
| 21:24.14 | zyth-remote | on the plus side, Linux is how people found out Skype reads a WHOLE bunch of personal info it doesnt need to ;) |
| 21:24.18 | zyth-remote | and such things |
| 21:25.05 | dreamss2 | zyth-remote same for the wow hardware survey thing ;) |
| 21:25.12 | snegoviK | oh i like Linux. but wine , alsa, drivers... kernel... its all a bit too much. i just want the good old Plug n Play damn it |
| 21:25.13 | snegoviK | :) |
| 21:25.16 | garryfre | Hmm, and Skype rhymes with Kype, an old nickname used to refer to thieft |
| 21:25.29 | garryfre | Plug and Pray |
| 21:25.33 | snegoviK | hehe |
| 21:26.05 | zyth-remote | dreamss2: yeah, I don't even know WHAT that gets out of Wine when it runs lol |
| 21:26.14 | zyth-remote | it runs *every* time I log in |
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| 21:26.53 | bleeter | indeed... plug and play... ie, windows attempt at 'one model fits all'. I'd say that you'd be in exactly the same position in Win32 as you'd be in Linux when things don't work, ie trivial made complicated, on either platform - probably more so given the lack of tools provided by Win32's vendor by default to aide in tracking down the cause of the error |
| 21:27.09 | bleeter | I have yet to see a Win32 release with something as useful as gdb |
| 21:27.13 | Gnarfoz | they don't happen as often, though... |
| 21:27.21 | Gnarfoz | gdb is *not* useful to anyone besides developers |
| 21:27.24 | garryfre | I got to examine my windows setup, When I did wow on linux, I copied the wow folder to linux, and had it up and running in a snap, and I get all kinds of nice graphics stuff I didn't see in windows. I suspect I have some options turned off in windows |
| 21:28.30 | bleeter | Gnarfoz: I'm talking about when stuff fails... it's useful for devlopers, sure... but if a user's ever been exposed to the basics of it, they can use it as well to try to ascertain whether it's a pebkac or they really do need to file upstream |
| 21:29.09 | Gnarfoz | I'd bet you... something... that actual "users" don't even have a clue what "upstream" means :> |
| 21:29.10 | snegoviK | bleeter: probably. i cannot say truthfully because i ve been using windows a very long time. Linux is new to me and therefore some things probably feel unnatural and look more complicated than they actually are |
| 21:29.50 | snegoviK | i remember i spent hrs trying to get Russian locale to switch from English with cntrl+shift for 3 hrs |
| 21:30.19 | snegoviK | i still dont have it set up like on Windows. works with shift+cntrl but not other way round |
| 21:30.25 | snegoviK | how random is that |
| 21:30.58 | snegoviK | if you actually press cntrl+shift the binding is different. something like ISO_Change_Group |
| 21:31.03 | snegoviK | or whatever |
| 21:31.23 | snegoviK | and when you actually press cntrl+shift outside of KDE setup, it doesnt match it :) |
| 21:33.05 | bleeter | Gnarfoz: I bet you, that as soon as they hit a bug or want some new feature, if they're serious about trying to get it fixed, that they do ;) |
| 21:33.48 | dreamss2 | its not that i dont know, its just that i dont care |
| 21:33.50 | dreamss2 | :P |
| 21:33.58 | dreamss2 | -homer simpson |
| 21:34.59 | dreamss2 | btw do u guys have fullscreen windowed mode under wine? |
| 21:35.17 | bleeter | snegoviK: yeah, it tends to be a bit of a steep learning curve if one's only ever been used to one desktop environment. |
| 21:35.36 | garryfre | Upstream is where the fish are. everyone knows that! |
| 21:36.12 | bleeter | snegoviK: but, if one knows the general concepts of architecures, etc., it can make it easier. Trust me, though, when I say there's people out there who've used Linux/Unix for 30 years and still don't consider themselves as experts. |
| 21:36.20 | bleeter | ~rimshot |
| 21:36.20 | infobot | ba-dum CHH |
| 21:36.29 | bleeter | ^^ for garryfre |
| 21:36.51 | garryfre | bleeter :) |
| 21:38.11 | snegoviK | bleeter: like with everything there is always room for improvement. :) linux is awesome for development tho |
| 21:38.16 | snegoviK | and Amarok is nice too ^^ |
| 21:38.43 | bleeter | indeed |
| 21:39.19 | bleeter | eg, ability to build MacOSX, Win32, BSD, Linux, Solaris etc. binaries all on the one system... with free tools. |
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| 21:42.11 | garryfre | Well, Iv'e been programming first dos, then windows for quite some time, and it seems to have moved from being about creativity, good coding, and what you *can* do, to being all about what you can't do, and shell games where there are ten ways of doing everything, but only one of them works. |
| 21:42.31 | garryfre | Its turned from fun, to funstration, to now pure frustration. |
| 21:45.44 | garryfre | Its become like a maze where the walls are invisible so those inside can't see what's blocking them. LIke I spent two weeks trying to use a function to reconnect automatically to a server. Every time I called it, it would hang. Finally I called M$ and the tech said "That's because it's waiting for a signal from the server telliing it that it can't connect." |
| 21:46.51 | garryfre | I don't know, but I would think that tools written by programmers for programmers in open source, would not necessarily be that way. |
| 21:47.10 | garryfre | -steps off soapbox |
| 21:48.21 | garryfre | What's your favorite development tools bleeter, for linux app dev? |
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| 21:49.51 | bleeter | garryfre: vi |
| 21:51.37 | garryfre | No ide's for say gnome, kde dev? |
| 21:51.51 | garryfre | or librarys |
| 21:53.05 | twoshadetod | whats "the best" engineering skill up guide out there? or a good one someone's used? |
| 21:53.21 | zyth-remote | vim ftw. |
| 21:56.48 | Bagginsww | dark elves |
| 21:56.57 | Bagginsww | day of the dragon talks about dark elves |
| 21:57.35 | bleeter | garryfre: emacs as an IDE, though eclipse is becoming very damned nice |
| 21:58.54 | garryfre | bleeter Yep, I've looked at eclipse, for ruby development. |
| 21:59.47 | clad|away | eclipse has some nice things, but is still extremely unwieldy. I prefer vim/emacs as my IDE |
| 22:00.00 | bleeter | garryfre: did you know you can integrate VMWare and Eclipse, so for cross-platform development, really can't be beat (although I'd like to see Eclipse support more virtualisation layers before I give it a true thumbs up) |
| 22:00.33 | garryfre | didn't know that. |
| 22:01.13 | bleeter | clad|away: my Uni is insisting I use some PoS called 'JCreator'... so I just use Eclipse to be difficult ;) |
| 22:02.06 | Bagginsww | dark elves may be the proto-race |
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| 22:02.21 | clad|away | BlueJ is nice |
| 22:14.52 | garryfre | Well I got the oss working by adding these config settings .. SET SoundOutputSystem "1" SET SoundBufferSize "150" but it still hangs on quit, but no big deal. |
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| 22:35.56 | pcj | damn |
| 22:45.15 | Kirkburn|sleep | funky, Azjol-Nerub may be a 74-76 zone |
| 22:45.32 | Kirkburn|sleep | i.e. an entirely underground zone |
| 22:47.05 | dreamss2 | u think? |
| 22:47.19 | dreamss2 | are we repping with bugs to kill undead? |
| 22:47.29 | DuTempete | morning Sugar! |
| 22:47.40 | Kirkburn|sleep | Morning DuTempete! |
| 22:47.45 | Kirkburn|sleep | http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/26/wotlk-zone-list/ |
| 22:48.04 | Kirkburn|sleep | A huge underground cavern system would be awesome |
| 22:48.25 | pcj | Meh |
| 22:48.28 | Kirkburn|sleep | Esp since one of their changes will be an upgraded (ice) cavern lighting system |
| 22:48.32 | pcj | Not if you couldn't fly around in it |
| 22:48.41 | Kirkburn|sleep | haha |
| 22:48.58 | Kirkburn|sleep | I expect we can mount it in |
| 22:49.00 | pcj | And not if it involves bugs in any form |
| 22:49.06 | pcj | Bugs are overused in WoW |
| 22:49.08 | DuTempete | I'm gonna be pissed if you can't fly in it :( |
| 22:49.13 | dreamss2 | http://www.joe-ks.com/archives_aug2007/PiranhaOnSteroids.htm |
| 22:49.31 | Kirkburn|sleep | Overused? |
| 22:49.37 | pcj | Yep |
| 22:49.37 | DuTempete | more likely to be more rats and bats and snakes, pcj |
| 22:49.40 | dreamss2 | games for windows mag gets alot of wow news |
| 22:49.50 | Kirkburn|sleep | aye |
| 22:50.37 | dreamss2 | they had a lot of unreleased news before |
| 22:51.35 | pcj | why are people creating new sandboxes :| |
| 22:51.56 | Kirkburn|sleep | pcj, if you want to tag some for deletion, please go ahead |
| 22:52.37 | pcj | how do you tag an article for deletion |
| 22:56.37 | Bagginsww | flying mount inside of underground cavern would be cool if it meant reaching out of the way ledges |
| 23:01.15 | Kirkburn|sleep | ooh, yeah |
| 23:01.26 | Kirkburn|sleep | pcj, I'm going to ignore that :P |
| 23:01.48 | Keolah | Oh yeah, this channel exists and I'm in it... I forgot IRC existed for a while there. ;p |
| 23:02.07 | pcj | *sigh* http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Boilerplate:Hammers_Of_Muradin |
| 23:02.52 | DuTempete | wtf |
| 23:02.54 | DuTempete | lol |
| 23:03.34 | DuTempete | Kirkburn|sleep, can in instate a death upon proven stupidity clause for the wiki? |
| 23:03.47 | DuTempete | I'd like to head the general maiming department. |
| 23:04.02 | Kirkburn|sleep | pcj, gone >< |
| 23:04.10 | Kirkburn|sleep | hehe |
| 23:04.47 | Keolah | What, "You must be smarter than this rock to edit this wiki"? :p |
| 23:05.19 | pcj | No, then what would we do about kirkburn |
| 23:07.20 | DuTempete | Kirkburn|sleep has... special... privilages. |
| 23:07.46 | DuTempete | And, I think, perhaps, we'd be better using a palm tree as a benchmark. |
| 23:07.53 | DuTempete | Just, you know, to raise the bar... |
| 23:08.33 | pcj | jar of mayonnaise imo |
| 23:09.33 | DuTempete | Ugh, I've been a theatrical person all my life; I've participated in every aspect of it. Now I'm taking this Theatre class for my minor (required), and currently I'm reading about "What is Theatre"... X.X |
| 23:09.45 | Kirkburn|sleep | http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft:_Wrath_of_the_Lich_King#Northrend |
| 23:10.12 | pcj | kirkburn, delete http://www.wowwiki.com/Hammers_Of_Muradin too, maybe that'll catch his attention |
| 23:10.18 | Kirkburn | Theatre is a big building with posh people |
| 23:10.42 | DuTempete | why posh? |
| 23:11.29 | Kirkburn | dunno |
| 23:11.35 | Kirkburn | Couldn't think of anything funny :( |
| 23:11.44 | DuTempete | funny thing was, for my first assignment, I didn't even have the book. So, I basically wrote a note at the bottom of it that said, "I don't have the book, so if my answers seem a little odd, it's because I know them already, and I'm not borrowing them from your book." |
| 23:11.53 | DuTempete | lol |
| 23:11.54 | DuTempete | <3 |
| 23:12.47 | Kirkburn | hehe |
| 23:13.00 | pcj | Delete http://www.wowwiki.com/Hitgirl too please |
| 23:15.33 | pcj | *facepalm* http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Hammers_Of_Muradin&curid=126281&diff=843643&oldid=843642&rcid=761292 |
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| 23:16.40 | pcj | ok these people aren't getting the message |
| 23:17.01 | pcj | i second dutempete's motion :P |
| 23:17.50 | DuTempete | sweet |
| 23:18.41 | DuTempete | Any questions like "How do I click on the thingy?" and "Where do I find the tabs?" are sudden death situations. |
| 23:19.22 | DuTempete | We need a black template, with a skull and crossbones on it that says... |
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| 23:20.33 | DuTempete | "You have been flagged as irreparably ignorant, and therefore must face the firing squad (Or whatever weapons of execution they may have at hand at the time). Be warned; this shall be the only. Do watch your back." |
| 23:21.28 | pcj | "If you have any complaints, you will be dragged out and shot. Have a nice day." |
| 23:21.32 | DuTempete | wait, I forgot something... |
| 23:21.45 | DuTempete | it should be "Do watch your back; we know where you live." |
| 23:21.52 | DuTempete | hehe |
| 23:25.30 | Sandwichman2448 | What did I miss? |
| 23:26.04 | DuTempete | We just condemned you to death, SWM. |
| 23:26.31 | Sandwichman2448 | Really? That was for me? |
| 23:26.38 | DuTempete | You'll soon be receiving an eerie phone call, verifying that you're at home. |
| 23:26.45 | Sandwichman2448 | Fine. |
| 23:26.54 | DuTempete | Then someone will break into your house and eat you alive. |
| 23:27.19 | Sandwichman2448 | Eh. I'm not scared. |
| 23:27.33 | DuTempete | Naw, pcj and I are bitching about stupid people. |
| 23:27.52 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Falstad_Wildhammer#Memorable_Quotes added a new line. |
| 23:28.02 | Bagginsww | oh sandwich, dark elves :) |
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| 23:30.09 | Bagginsww | Those rough-hewn hills that look like my grandmother, beard and all? Aye, 'tis a good choice! We'll decent toward those!." |
| 23:30.58 | Sandwichman2448 | Funny. |
| 23:31.44 | Bagginsww | ya, I love falstad's jokes |
| 23:32.00 | Bagginsww | wishes they would have kept dragonreaver on this NPC name though :( |
| 23:34.49 | Sandwichman2448 | Read the hitgirl thing he will not obey kirk. |
| 23:35.02 | Sandwichman2448 | Not the page, the edit log. |
| 23:35.43 | Kirkburn | I'm stupid :) http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Ragestorm#Spoilers |
| 23:36.37 | Sandwichman2448 | ha |
| 23:36.44 | DuTempete | lol |
| 23:38.52 | Sandwichman2448 | Bagginsww, who runs Jadenarr? |
| 23:39.00 | Bagginsww | hmm in the rpg? |
| 23:39.01 | Sandwichman2448 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Jaedenar |
| 23:39.13 | Bagginsww | fel'dan I think |
| 23:39.16 | Sandwichman2448 | I'm factionboxing |
| 23:39.39 | Sandwichman2448 | K, it is the HQ of the shadow council on azeroth |
| 23:40.07 | Kirkburn | One assumes that since we'll be fighting Malygos, Alexstrazsa will also appear during the fight |
| 23:40.36 | Sandwichman2448 | Red vs Blue! |
| 23:40.44 | Sandwichman2448 | LOL |
| 23:43.55 | Sandwichman2448 | Bagginsww, would Kil be classified as a leader of it? |
| 23:45.43 | Bagginsww | uh I don't think so directly |
| 23:46.04 | Bagginsww | not unless quests mention them taking orders from him directly |
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| 23:46.31 | Kirkburn | What is he doing these days anyway? |
| 23:46.49 | Sandwichman2448 | Kael and A'dal says he is coming to Azeroth |
| 23:47.01 | DuTempete | OMGZ Kitten_from_Hell stole my nick!!! |
| 23:47.23 | Kirkburn | Ah, rather than sailing the Twisting Nether getting pissed on a yacht |
| 23:47.32 | Sandwichman2448 | Yes |
| 23:47.40 | DuTempete | But that sounds like fun, Kirkburn. |
| 23:47.44 | Kirkburn | It does |
| 23:48.06 | DuTempete | Promised me you'll get pissed with me on a yacht, when I come visit you? |
| 23:48.22 | Bagginsww | The true story is burning legion really are the good guys ;) |
| 23:48.32 | Sandwichman2448 | Really? |
| 23:48.45 | Bagginsww | no, i'm joking, but that would be a strange twist |
| 23:48.54 | Bagginsww | find out Titans were really the evil ones |
| 23:49.07 | Bagginsww | and Burning Legion are just trying to make weapons to wipe out the Titans |
| 23:49.09 | DuTempete | Even though the british term "yacht" signifies something different... I just want to say I got to be on one =P |
| 23:49.32 | DuTempete | No need to describe it to people when I brag about it. =P |
| 23:49.56 | Sandwichman2448 | I was planning on making my new fanfic on that, but it was too complicated. |
| 23:50.18 | pcj | On yachts? |
| 23:50.26 | DuTempete | lol |
| 23:50.27 | pcj | Kinda lame fanfic material |
| 23:50.47 | Sandwichman2448 | No, on a mirror univerce where the alliance serves the legion. |
| 23:50.47 | DuTempete | But, it's Kil'jaeden, getting pissed on a yacht... |
| 23:50.51 | DuTempete | That'd be awesome |
| 23:51.51 | DuTempete | I need to write a broadway musical about WoW... |
| 23:51.58 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 23:52.21 | DuTempete | ACT III: The Ninja Looter. |
| 23:52.51 | DuTempete | Who has a solo entitled, "It was an accident." |
| 23:52.58 | DuTempete | It's a tragedy, really. |
| 23:53.42 | DuTempete | There has to be a song called, "OMGZ PWND!!!1one!" |
| 23:54.35 | DuTempete | And in the end, the guild falls apart, and the guild leader goes into therapy. |
| 23:55.46 | Dotted | SPOILER |
| 23:57.48 | Sandwichman2448 | Were Cho and Gall leaders? |
| 23:58.36 | DuTempete | Adys |
| 23:58.42 | DuTempete | wait, nm |
| 23:59.02 | Sandwichman2448 | Bagginsww |
