IRC log for #wowwiki on 20070824

00:00.19SkosirisAFKDuTempete: delicious
00:00.38SkosirisAFKDuTempete: I only ate 2 out of the 3 I had, so I have 1 left to eat later this evening :)
00:01.18AFKDuTempeteI hope you choke on it. =P
00:02.15AFKDuTempeteWell, I take that back.  It's my own fault I'm jealous.  I asked about it.
00:02.26AFKDuTempeteAlthough, you could have not spelled it out in the first place.
00:12.13Skosirislol
00:12.29SkosirisI guess we will be giving away tacos in a future contest :D
00:13.55AFKDuTempeteprobably a contest that requires me to make comments all over the place, or spend hours taking screenshots, rather than doing schoolwork...
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01:01.38[NewsBot]Kirkburn i want my bot working :((
01:12.01Dottednow
01:12.05Dotted:P
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01:17.17Bleeterpiece of piss
01:17.25Bleeterprogramming 101 HD ftw
01:22.29Kirkburn[NewsBot], :(
01:22.44KirkburnTor has been off sick
01:23.02KirkburnPlus I keep forgetting to look for him until it's way gone midnight for him :P
01:23.40KirkburnBtw, something we're starting up - a Wikia-wide gaming channel
01:24.06Kirkburn(Basically a channel for anyone involved in a Wikia Gaming wiki)
01:24.29KirkburnMostly for the smaller wikis, though, but just thought I'd mention it here :)
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01:43.08KirkburnI'm off home
01:43.11KirkburnSee ya'll later!
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02:45.51Kaydeethreewhat the...
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03:19.15pcjkirkburn - you should elaborate on that RSS feed extension request
03:19.30pcjyou probably want to be able to include RSS feeds in pages?
03:24.43Kirkburnpcj, oh they already know
03:24.52pcjah
03:25.20KirkburnOnce TOR is around, I can get him up to speed if need be
03:25.57ThraeKirkburn: Talking about a guy named TOR, or someone using TOR to evade bans?
03:26.10KirkburnGuy called ~
03:26.40KirkburnEvade bans?
03:26.55ThraeKirkburn: TOR is an onion router network
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04:24.22DroffatsWho would want to use a network made out of onions?
04:26.01DroffatsOr maybe it's a network only onions can use.
04:28.27TekkubHumans that choose scryers and decide to switch to aldor can't do math
04:28.31Tekkubhumans are stupid
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04:54.40JunkHead-WorkMorning.
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05:57.42BagginswwThats because orcs are one of the most or the most important race in Warcraft. Zarnks 06:14, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
05:57.49Bagginswwbiased much?
05:59.00dreamss2i would say elfs are :P
05:59.39BagginswwLOL, biased much?
05:59.57dreamss2orc ARE warcraft icon/pet tho
06:00.00BagginswwI would say Metzen is the most important race :p
06:00.14BagginswwI'd say it was equally orcs and humans
06:00.49Bagginswwthat was the iconic title of the first game , and was on the cover for warcraft II, modified slightly
06:01.18BagginswwI mean the orc warrior stairing down the human knight, and then human captain staring down the orc pirate
06:01.37[NewsBot]MMO Champion: Flying mount, surgery, solo instances, and comics. - http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=743.0
06:05.29KirkburnHah, we've already got the plastic surgery info ^^
06:06.11KirkburnNo new mount type is new info certainly
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06:07.00KirkburnBoubouille, hah
06:07.11KirkburnWas just mock-- I mean talking about you
06:07.17BoubouilleO rly ?
06:07.20Kaydeethreeeesh. securom. g'bye bioshock. how the hell did 2k not realize the kind of backlash it was going to get?
06:07.36Kirkburn2 strikes and your out!
06:07.39KirkburnOf your own game!
06:07.49KirkburnYay!
06:08.01KirkburnBackground: you're only allowed to install BioShock twice
06:08.20KirkburnWho the hell thinks up such dumb ideas...
06:08.25KirkburnBoubouille, your last post
06:08.30Kaydeethreethe suits at 2k
06:08.32Boubouillewhat ? :(
06:08.40KirkburnAlready got the plastic surgery note :P
06:08.55Boubouillewait, how do you know it will be the last post ?
06:08.57Boubouilledo you plan to kill me ?
06:09.12Boubouilledo you plan to install vista on my computer to make me unable to do anything ?
06:09.13Boubouillethat's it ?
06:09.14Boubouille:(
06:09.16dreamss2those comics are great
06:09.23dreamss2they fixin that kirk
06:09.25dreamss2soon
06:10.10Kaydeethreeya, with a revocation kit. wonderful. uninstalling the game doesn't even reset the number of pcs it's allegedly installed on atm
06:10.34dreamss2u could just pirate it
06:10.36dreamss2http://www.gucomics.com/comic/?cdate=20070806
06:10.37dreamss2LOL
06:11.18Kaydeethreelmao... it's funny. the whole point of securom was to prevent pirating. yet more and more people are probably going to be turning to cracks just to get around the draconian drm. gotta love backfires
06:12.01Kirkburnhttp://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft:_Wrath_of_the_Lich_King#Professions_and_skills
06:12.30dreamss2kay is the way that allways hapens
06:12.44Kaydeethreeya. which is why drm's pointless
06:12.48dreamss2they try a new antipiracy thing, fucks over legit customers and pirates keep pirating
06:12.49Kirkburnlolsauron
06:13.28KirkburnWhatever would Alan Lee think
06:19.41KirkburnWell, sounds like my comments totally threw everyone then
06:20.14Kirkburn(Alan Lee = main LotR artist)
06:20.30KirkburnAdded three negative points to WotLK, what fun :)
06:24.19BoubouilleNew dungeons
06:24.22Boubouille- Naxxramas
06:24.24Boubouille- Stratholme
06:24.32Boubouillewtf.
06:27.50KirkburnBoubouille, better - http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft:_Wrath_of_the_Lich_King#Dungeons_and_end-game_content ?
06:32.58SkosirisBoubouille: it's old Strathole, not Stratholme.
06:35.34Kirkburnlol
06:36.05KirkburnInteresting seeing the difference between the TBC article and the WotLK article
06:36.19KirkburnThe second is written much more like a proper article
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06:42.58Laurlyand wheres adys when i need him
06:43.08Laurly~seen adys
06:43.19infobotadys <i=Adys@APoitiers-257-1-22-54.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowhead, 5h 13m 31s ago, saying: 'gnite'.
06:43.44Laurlypift
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06:47.11Bagginswwits funny coldarra is a subzone of Borean Tundra, and Scholarzar basin apparenlty isn't
06:47.38Bagginswwwhere as in the rpg coldarra was a seperate zone, and Scholazar basin was a subzone of borean tundra.
06:47.54AFKDuTempeteAdys is sleeping, Laurly
06:48.20AFKDuTempetehe's got some crappy normal French schedule. :(
06:49.23Bleeterk folks, for the record, I've been accepted as a maintainer of the WoW 2.2 on Wine application, which'll basically be a case of keeping an eye on various sources for info on how we might get the audio working
06:50.12Bleeterthought i'd let you folks know, in case, well, folks come here asking about it... figured it's best to have someone visible in the community on the maintenance team rather than just wine hackers ;)
06:51.46Boubouille[08:32:05] <Skosiris> Boubouille: it's old Strathole, not Stratholme.
06:51.56BoubouilleTHANKS FOR PROVIDING ME WITH NEWS ABOUT THE UPCOMING EXPANSION
06:52.53LaurlyAFKDuTempete you awake?
06:53.01AFKDuTempeteyup, sup
06:53.04Laurlyhttp://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Laurly#Quest:Doling_Justice_.282.29
06:53.07Laurlycheck the bottom
06:53.23Laurlywho is Eirik Ratcatcher and why does he hate bots?
06:53.39AFKDuTempetelol
06:53.43AFKDuTempeteI've seen him about, but I don't know him.
06:54.04AFKDuTempeteI dunno what his problem is with there being two pages for that quest, either.
06:54.39Laurlyhe added stub/quest to the disambig/quest template so now all the quest disamb pages show up as stubs
06:55.14AFKDuTempeterofl
06:55.23AFKDuTempeteyou removed them, right?
06:55.27Laurlyyeah and i dont do edit wars.
06:55.33AFKDuTempetehe put them back?
06:55.42Laurlyhttp://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Template:Disambig/quest&action=history
06:55.43AFKDuTempetewhich pages?  I'll revert them. =P
06:55.57Laurlyno im not reverting anything im willing to be he will just put it back.
06:56.23Laurlyim trying to write up a nice diplomatic respons to his comment.
06:56.26AFKDuTempetethey shouldn't be there...
06:56.59AFKDuTempeteyeah, I'm reverting that.
06:57.09Laurlywhere does one post a complaint of abuse im intersetd in hereing it.
06:57.35dreamss2any chance teh quest list could show quests by lvl req?
06:57.39AFKDuTempetelol
06:58.04AFKDuTempetebtw, laurly, I meant to ask you about your quest chain pages.
06:58.12Laurlyshoot
06:58.27AFKDuTempeteI'm not sure having a separate page for that is good, nor the intention of the mention in the policy page
06:58.29KirkburnIf you're not on IRC I can imagine the bots seem very odd and impersonal
06:58.41Laurlytalk to gryphon the seprate page was his idea.
06:58.50LaurlyKirkburn i agree.
06:58.56AFKDuTempete*nod*
06:59.06KirkburnI think people are still getting used to this new-fangled stuff :P
06:59.07AFKDuTempeteWhat do you think about the quest chain pages laurlybot is doing, Kirk?
06:59.16Laurlyin my opinion bots just give you a place to start from like dutempete found out its not perfect
06:59.21AFKDuTempete*nod*
06:59.40KirkburnIf you stick around for a few months, we'll see about fixing that :)
07:00.15Laurlyits worse with npc du.  it creates drops,sells, quests, and herbs, skills pages ontop of the npc page itself
07:00.23AFKDuTempetebut they're a great hand, I've got a bunch of quests tagged for her to work on, I just moved the special stuff to the talk page
07:00.31KirkburnSo, pages for quets chains
07:00.38AFKDuTempetedammit I hate all this secretive stuff with Wiki
07:00.38Laurlygryphons reason was that some ppl cant read the table crap so we dumped them into another page.
07:00.41AFKDuTempete*wikia
07:00.41KirkburnI have no opinion either way
07:00.53AFKDuTempetetable crap for quest chains?
07:00.58AFKDuTempetewhat are you talking about?
07:01.01KirkburnAFKDuTempete, it's not so much that as just not showing you hand too early
07:01.20Laurlyit was a wile ago :)
07:01.21KirkburnLast day of work here tomorrow btw
07:01.23AFKDuTempeteif you were told nto to talk about it, yet, it's secretive.
07:01.32KirkburnI have this thing called an NDA?
07:01.41Laurlywait maybe it had more to do with the fact then you only have to change it in one place insted of having to change it in all the quests in the quest chains.
07:01.50AFKDuTempeteawwww, does that mean I'm going to see you as much, Sugar?
07:02.08AFKDuTempeteyeah, NDAs are worse than just being told =P
07:02.11Laurlykirk where are complaints of abuse posted?
07:02.12KirkburnYou think I'll stop coming online when I'm home? Hell no! I'll be here even more =)
07:02.16AFKDuTempetethose are legalized secrets ;)
07:02.19AFKDuTempeterofl
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07:02.21KirkburnLaurly, wherever the hell he wants
07:02.23AFKDuTempeteyay!
07:02.46AFKDuTempeteAnyway, I think the quest chain pages just take up space on the server, and slows them down.
07:03.12AFKDuTempeteIt's not that hard to go through and change the pages manually, nor does it have to be done that often.  Especially after the bot is through with it all
07:03.52AFKDuTempeteI just don't think it's worth the consequences.
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07:04.39Vapochillmorning guys
07:04.45Laurlyhmm post it on village pump? if veryone agrees i could have the bot go remove them in a day
07:04.57KirkburnAFKDuTempete, the server isn't *that* strained :P
07:05.33AFKDuTempeteSure, those things are little, but imagine all the *little* things we can do that add up and *do* strain the servers?
07:05.47Vapochillaint there an addon that look in the eventcalender on wow eu or us and shows ingame ?
07:06.09KirkburnAFKDuTempete, true true
07:06.10AFKDuTempeteWe don't know how many more pages we'll create by the time WoW dies... I'd rathe rbe efficient now, than have to change things later.
07:06.19KirkburnI think tomorrow will be server testing time
07:06.21BleeterVapochill: group calendar, guild event manager... there are others, dunno their names tho
07:06.49Vapochillto bad no faire :( just got my lunacy deck damnit
07:06.54Laurlydutemp: i was told that wiki is suposed to have lots of pages.  kinda warned them when i started working on the bot generateing quest and npc pages
07:07.47dreamss2wiki are supposed to have every detail? :P
07:08.06AFKDuTempeteSure, laurly, but the servers are just the same :)
07:08.09Laurlyhttp://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Laurly#Quest:Doling_Justice_.282.29  <--- ok hows that for a diplomatic response
07:08.25Laurlymake more pages let wikia deal with the rest i say !
07:09.17Laurlywoot (disambig pages are not stubs.)
07:09.30Laurly<3
07:09.38Laurlywell that was a nice thing to wake up to
07:09.51AFKDuTempete<3
07:10.12Laurlyim going to try and get NPC generation unbuggie but i have a sexy male dwarf comming for the weekend
07:12.15Laurly403 forbiden.... dont think my guild forums likes me anymore
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07:15.21dreamss2fn'Bleeter bleh i missed ur reply
07:15.34Bleeterreply to?
07:15.37dreamss2yeah and getting trojan on xp with tinyfw is next to imposible
07:15.46AFKDuTempeteyes, that's a nice response, laurly ;)
07:15.51dreamss2linux was meant to be a linux platafarorm
07:15.56dreamss2err server
07:16.29Laurlyafter having world war 3 with a teenager about why she needs to clean her room i think i can deal with him :)
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07:17.46dreamss2fact is, linux is as insecure as windows due flexibility, and the more they try to make linux more accesible the less secure its going to become
07:18.10dreamss2aka latest ubuntu we got raped bug
07:18.15dreamss2:P
07:19.19Bleeterdreamss2: fact is, there's no way known that a trojan designed to target win32 via sub-optimal code in the mouse pointer area is gunna rape your system under wine :P
07:20.20AFKDuTempeteomg ww3 about a clean room, laurly?  Geez...
07:20.30Bleeterand even less chance if one uses the native linux web browser to browse the web, and only wine to play WoW
07:21.15dreamss2the whole trojan argument is BS, there are ACL and ways to deterr overflow exploits on linux and windows
07:21.55Laurly<PROTECTED>
07:22.21Laurlyinsecure /me read it next time
07:23.54dreamss2for example all linux distros are the same OS, but some are more secure than other due the choice of daemons
07:25.01KirkburnVista > *    =)
07:25.29fireglow;_;
07:26.24Bleeterfact is, the only secure computer is one at the bottom of a hole, filled with concrete, and all power cables disconnected
07:26.30Bleeterand even then, there's some chance .... ;)
07:27.07KirkburnThe only secure PC is one that emits a steady 0 signal
07:28.30AFKDuTempeteeven that one isn't secure, because it has a user =P
07:29.25KirkburnOn pluto.
07:31.20Bleeterdreamss2: it's not only the choice of daemons that determin a linux distro's level of security...
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07:52.19Laurlymen!
07:57.28AFKDuTempetewhere?!
07:57.40AFKDuTempeteYou aren't hiding the men from me, Laurly, are you?!
08:00.07BleeterAFKDuTempete: you might find more men if you weren't AFK! :P
08:00.11Laurlyjust my X again i ask him to pick me up from the store and you would think i asked him to spend a week with me.
08:00.27AFKDuTempetelol
08:01.11Laurly"i have things to do you know i do have a life"
08:01.26Laurlysorry im bissy today would have worked.
08:01.40Bleeterwhoa, newsflash.. man has life!
08:03.41Laurlygot one of you.  PW:S then SWD on curator :/
08:03.47Laurly7k crit dam that hurt!
08:04.01Bleeterheh
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08:05.09Laurlyits been a long time since i have been in kara.  cant beleave i died at prince last night..... just totaly forgot you have to get back.
08:05.41Laurlyraid leader: Why did you die?  me: no comment
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09:25.06Droffats"When will be the quests listed?"
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10:34.49[NewsBot]BlizzPlanet: Blizzard - BlizzCon 2007 Photo Galleries - http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=1647
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11:15.29BleeterBagginsww: just wondering, given the number of pop culture references ingame, if you know of any Frank Zappa ones?
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11:37.14[NewsBot]GamePolitics: CheapAssGamer in Legal Dustup with Circuit City - http://gamepolitics.com/2007/08/24/cheap-ass-gamer-files-motion-to-quash-circuit-city-subpoena/
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11:43.27nomenquishi, i'm wondering if someone can help me with some thrallmar rep questions. I'd love to know if anyone managed to get revered with thrallmar without the SH key quests / SH runs
11:45.11nomenquisThe information on the thrallmar page seems to be wrong because I managed to get up to 11844 rep (without doing the pvp quest more than once)
11:45.35nomenquisSo i'm really wondering if it's possible to get revered by just the 'normal' quests there :)
11:51.33Teomyrit *might* be possible
11:52.00Teomyrin theory, you'd have to start running the hellfire citadel instances before doing any quests for thrallmar
11:52.23nomenquisdid that. as i said, i am at 11844 at level 63 now :)
11:52.41Teomyrwow
11:52.43nomenquisran blood furnace and the other one till 5999 and then startet with the quests
11:53.03nomenquisand it's _really_ driving me mad that i cant seem to reach revered now :)
11:53.16Teomyraye, that's annoying
11:53.44nomenquisyea, and i cant seem to find a single thrallmar quest anymore :(
11:54.25Teomyryou should've probably done the pvp quest several times before doing the other quests :/
11:54.48nomenquisna, grinding via the pvp quest is considered cheating ^^
11:55.06nomenquisbut i will try doing it a second time now and have a look if it yields rep
11:55.07Teomyrsays who? :P
11:55.12nomenquisme ^^
11:55.20Teomyrheh
11:56.03nomenquisdo ramparts and bloodfurnace bosses still give rep at honored?
11:56.14nomenquistrash doesn't, but do bosses?
11:56.31Teomyrgood question
11:56.36Teomyri doubt it, though
11:58.06nomenquisaw, wouldn't want to got there anymore anyway ^^
11:58.25Teomyrhehe
11:58.48nomenquisfun times going in there as a prot warri at level 60 with _zero_ outland gear. been tanking in plate i got from zul farrak :)
11:59.53Teomyrreminds me of when i started raiding MC with my priest
12:00.56Teomyrthe raiding guild i joined was desperately seeking priests, so they didn't even mind me still wearing a dreamweave vest
12:01.10nomenquislol
12:01.40nomenquisthe restro druid i've been doing this has been wearing the full dreamweaver set on the first ramparts run with me :)
12:01.50Teomyrhehe
12:02.31nomenquissomethink in the area of 100+ heal trying to keep a warrior with <6k life and very little armor up :)
12:03.59Teomyrthat's a challenge ;)
12:05.09nomenquisthough doing the quests after we got equip from all these runs was a really good time :)
12:06.07nomenquisaw, doing the pvp quest right now, let's see if it yields some nice rep
12:16.04nomenquisshoot, 6 rep short now :(
12:19.44nomenquisi really think i've missed some quest somewhere :(
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12:37.18[NewsBot]GamePolitics: Villanova Research Video: Violent Games Only Make Angry People Aggressive - http://gamepolitics.com/2007/08/24/villanova-research-video-violent-games-only-make-angry-people-aggressive/
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12:46.16Teomyra friend of mine agrees with the statement that violent games make people aggressive
12:46.51Teomyrbecause everytime he plays counter-strike source, his mother starts complaining
12:57.36[NewsBot]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXtyYiI5HDk ahahahaa
12:58.41LaurlyLOL Teomyr
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13:11.25Bleeterwonder why no one ever gets on the high moral ground about how users make devs angry and agressive people
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13:33.03nomenquisw00t, managed to get revered :)
13:33.28nomenquisat level 63 with thrallmar :)
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13:34.27|Umbra|Good morning
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13:36.25|Umbra|Anyone know how to put Armor in green text in an item tooltip?
13:36.44nomenquisdoesn't blizz color that lately?
13:37.15[NewsBot]GamePolitics: British Cabinet Minister Talks Government & Games - http://gamepolitics.com/2007/08/24/british-cabinet-minister-talks-government-games/
13:37.23|Umbra|They color it if it is uncommon.
13:37.53|Umbra|Sergeant's Cape and Sergeant's Cloak have higher than normal Armor
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13:42.25Fisker--Scrin Mothership will now take 8 seconds to deploy over the Scrin Signal Transmitter, where it will be unselectable by user but can be attacked by opponent. Scrin Mothership speed has been increased by 33%. Weapon chain reaction delay increased by 1 sec.
13:42.26Fisker-wtf
13:42.58BibiC&C3 sucks
14:03.02TotalBiscuitcould use it that's for sure
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14:20.34Tate-EULo?
14:20.42|Umbra|hello
14:21.45[NewsBot]MMO Champion: Netherwing guide, Games Convention - http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=744.0
14:25.59Tate-EU_<PROTECTED>
14:26.04Tate-EU_Eewps?
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14:47.34kadrahilanyone have any experience with making subversion server run a command every time a commit is made?
14:47.40kadrahilbasically... how do you do it? :)
14:47.52kadrahiluh, mt
14:48.21pcj~foxbot
14:48.22infobotit has been said that foxbot is [[User:Foxbot]], launch by saying "I need a Foxbot!" while foxlit is around.
14:50.22foxlitmm, pcj? :)
14:50.30pcjMm.
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15:06.34TaurmindoI need Foxbot!
15:07.48Taurmindodidn't work all well, foxlit. :P
15:11.21pcjI need a Foxbot!
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15:11.32pcj"I need a Foxbot!"
15:11.34pcjfine
15:11.35pcjgod
15:14.39Taurmindoah, sorry. :rolleyes:
15:14.47Taurmindoitem Scarlet Insigna Ring, Gloom Weed, Doom Weed, The Lich's Spellbook, Sample of Venom, A Letter Undelivered, Candles of Beckoning
15:15.13Taurmindonm, i'll do it in /msg. :P
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15:17.31tyreal12hiya guys
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15:20.31pcjhi
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15:54.44pcja long ruler afaik
15:56.49elmargol2.2 seems to be bugy on wine :(
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16:00.13Kaydeethreeya. the wow wine'rs in here are aware. :(. it works fine, so long as you turn off audio
16:00.48deltronyeah they changed the audio subsystem
16:04.43pcjsilly winers
16:07.25Adyslol at crash
16:07.32Adysagain
16:07.58Fisker-my lol has been corrupted
16:12.53foxlit!quit armory domain change
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16:16.04TecnoBratanyone in here in a BT / MH raiding guild? I'm trying to figure out what most guilds do with their shadow priests, if tehy stick them with dps or healers
16:18.03Fisker-i'd guess DPS as paladins are pretty mana efficient
16:18.40TecnoBratFisker-, I'd agree
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16:18.45TecnoBratbut my dumb paladins bitch
16:18.47foxlitDPS, but depends on encounters
16:18.56TecnoBrat!c us korgath barbanus
16:19.15TecnoBratThraeBot, c us korgath barbanus
16:19.16pcjI need a Foxbot!
16:19.19TecnoBratdammit
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16:19.29TecnoBratanyways, thats me, and I've got like 140 mp5
16:19.37TecnoBratour other paladins have like 70
16:20.04Fisker-I think i might actually start stacking +heal and stamina now
16:20.10Fisker-i have like 240 mp5 raidbuffed
16:20.20TecnoBratthis is unbuffed
16:20.27Fisker-can't remember my unbuffed
16:20.30Fisker-160 or so i think
16:20.37TecnoBratwhats foxbot's command! :P
16:20.55TecnoBrato.O
16:20.56TecnoBratnm
16:21.00TecnoBrat500 error on the armory
16:21.17deltronhttp://newsletters.station.sony.com/images/vanguard/082207_background.jpg <-- lol
16:22.12Fisker-OWNT
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16:24.28Teomyrwow... 13 servers merged into 4... they must have been really empty
16:24.59Adyshttp://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Crash#Behaviour
16:25.14Fisker-well the game failed
16:25.46Fisker-sony took their big fat cocks and stuck it up the asses of the developers and told them not to feel butthurt when they were being shoved out the door by their giant dicks
16:26.30TecnoBratFisker-, whats your char name and server?
16:26.39Fisker-Fiskerdin Ravencrest
16:27.37dreamss2fisk
16:27.41dreamss2bioshuckle?
16:29.01Fisker-yes
16:29.04Fisker-oh
16:29.04Fisker-no
16:29.06Fisker-vanguard
16:29.06TecnoBratFisker-, you got 145 mp5 unbuffed :)
16:29.10Fisker-:O
16:29.21dreamss2vanguard? heh
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16:31.45[NewsBot]MMO Champion: Sunwell Plateau is the next 25 Man raid, Naxx will follow - http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=745.0
16:31.52TecnoBratAdys, you are a meany!
16:32.11Adysi know..
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16:35.59Kirkburnmorning
16:36.03Adysmorning Kirkburn
16:36.24Teomyrlo
16:37.18KirkburnSo, um, earplugs are good
16:37.21pcjk
16:37.26pcjwhat about buttplugs
16:37.32KirkburnCan't say I know
16:37.53pcjhmm
16:37.54Fisker-of course you do
16:39.11KirkburnNope, nope, pretty sure I don't
16:40.12KirkburnI had to pay for someone's taxi at 4:30am this morning ><
16:41.06KirkburnNot quite what I was expecting to wake up to
16:43.19BibiYeah, everything is great, but at the end you still have to pay
16:43.23Bibiit happens to me all the time
16:46.52Taurmindohm. what's the name of the article about +hit attribute? cannot find it anywhere.
16:50.38foxlitMelee hit?
16:51.10foxlit[[Hit rating]]->[[Combat rating system]]
16:51.11[NewsBot]foxlit meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Hit_rating
16:52.01foxlit[[Hit]]
16:52.02[NewsBot]foxlit meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Hit
16:52.14foxlitActually, that whole line of articles are a bloody redirect web
16:52.37foxlit"Hit Rating -> Hit -> Combat -> "multiple meanings in World of Warcraft""
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17:15.36Bagginswwhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_knight That should be an external link in one of the death knight pages. Something pointing out that concept originated from DND
17:16.08TotalBiscuitpretty much everything in RPGs did o_O
17:16.49Bagginswwyep, and its nice to hint back to them. Although if it doesn't come from dnd its probably from Tolkien or earlier fantasy
17:17.05TotalBiscuit*nods*
17:17.12TotalBiscuiteverything's derirative these days
17:19.46Bagginswwya, LOL
17:20.15Bagginswweven warcraft's goofy cartoon style drew alot from warhammer's artwork :p
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17:59.38|Umbra|Hello
18:00.15pcjhi
18:00.31|Umbra|Where can we look to see how many edits we've made?
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18:01.05pcjyour contributions
18:01.14|Umbra|Also what happened to the page count that use to be at the bottom?
18:01.15foxlitepeen!
18:02.23|Umbra|I don't see a total on the contributions page.
18:02.30Gryphenyou have to count them
18:02.37|Umbra|Blarg
18:03.01Gryphenthe page count has been disabled
18:03.02pcjWell, you can make it easier by showing only so many at a time
18:03.26|Umbra|Someone added me to the 2.5K club a long time ago.  I'd hate to think they counted them by hand.
18:03.43Gryphenyou count them per page
18:03.58pcjWell, everyone knows that people who play WoW probably have way too much time on their hands anyway
18:03.59Gryphenif you show 500 at a time and have 3 pages, you have 1500+
18:04.22Gryphenerr 1000+ if 3 :)
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18:05.58pcjHeh
18:06.28Gryphentype in a reason for sd, that will slow pcj down :)
18:08.25Gryphenyou have 4109 contribs umbra
18:08.25KasoEye for an Eye; "NPCs can not critially hit you with spells"
18:08.27KasoIs that true?
18:08.36|Umbra|Thank you Gryphen.
18:09.02|Umbra|Should not be true Kaso
18:09.06|Umbra|Actually...
18:09.18AdysDotted: ping
18:09.23Dottedpong
18:09.29|Umbra|I don't think any NPC can spell crit anyone.
18:09.35KasoIm not sure, but it seems odd, they can melee crit.
18:09.37|Umbra|Regardless of talent.
18:09.43foxlitYes they can?
18:09.56|Umbra|It's one of the things mentioned in Resilience.
18:10.24|Umbra|Resilience helps with spell crit and mobs don't spell crit.
18:10.31KasoWhere says that umbra?
18:10.47|Umbra|I remember reading it someone on the wiki.
18:10.52|Umbra|Also on the forums.
18:11.06KasoWell i describe nither of those as absolute sources
18:11.07|Umbra|er somewhere.
18:11.12|Umbra|Heh.
18:11.19|Umbra|But I think it is true.
18:11.28KasoHmm, i think this needs testing :>
18:11.58|Umbra|Consider if mobs did spell crit, then wouldn't Resilience be a desireable stat for raiding?
18:12.26foxlitIt works on melee crits too, you know :)
18:12.36Kasoi think the reason tanks dont like resilience is that its much easier/better to use def for that
18:12.47Kasotheyre two different rolls or something
18:13.04|Umbra|Tanks don't like it for a diff reason...
18:13.14pcjthere's no reason for resilience in PvE
18:13.22pcjonce you have 490 defense you're uncrittable
18:13.28|Umbra|Resilience can push Crit off the mob hit table, but not Crushing blows.
18:13.47pcjDefense won't push crushing blows off the table either :P
18:13.52|Umbra|However, Resilience is used by Feral tanking druids to push Crit off the attack table.
18:14.11|Umbra|Since Feral tanking druids can't reach max defense.
18:14.32|Umbra|And Feral tanking druids get no benefit from the +Parry and +Dodge that Defense provides.
18:14.53|Umbra|There's a wiki page on Attack Table.
18:15.48foxlitForce of Nature needs some sort of pet bar :(
18:15.57|Umbra|Defense alone won't push Crushing blows off the table, but additional Dodge, Parry and Block will.
18:16.02pcjSure
18:16.18pcjDruids can't do all that anyway
18:16.30|Umbra|You are correct.
18:16.45|Umbra|At any rate, I'm reasonably sure that mobs do not spell crit.
18:16.48pcjthere Gryphen i added a reason prompt to my SD js :P
18:16.54KasoHow come this item has resilience on it if mobs cannot spell crit
18:16.54pcjyeah mobs don't
18:17.01Kasohttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=30825
18:17.03pcjbecause the item is for PvP
18:17.03|Umbra|Which item?
18:17.23|Umbra|There are a couple/few reslience items that drop in 25 man.
18:17.48|Umbra|The one from Lurker I'd say is Moonkin and Paladin friendly.
18:18.51|Umbra|Speaking of Lurker, I really hate him.
18:18.58|Umbra|He got all buggy on us last night.
18:19.12|Umbra|We spent the whole night on him and he still lives!
18:20.12|Umbra|http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33054
18:22.39|Umbra|Anyone else have problems with evading Guardians?
18:23.37foxlitNo
18:23.52foxlitAll but one should be sheeped, the remaining one is tanked
18:25.30foxlitLurker, after Vashj, is probably the most fun encounter in SSC :)
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18:31.07KalrothKirkburn sucks, amirite?!
18:31.16Kirkburntotally
18:31.41KirkburnBibi should register his damn nickname
18:31.54pcjdiaf imo
18:31.55BibiI don't own the nick
18:32.02Kirkburn>_>
18:32.05Bibiand I don't know how to have it unregistered
18:32.11Kirkburnfreenode.net
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18:32.21BibiI need the exact page
18:32.23Bibii'm french
18:32.56deltron/msg nickserv help register
18:33.13Kirkburnhttp://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userexpirations
18:34.06Kirkburn#freenode to chat to them I think
18:37.15[NewsBot]GamePolitics: Manhunt 2 Re-rated from AO to M - http://gamepolitics.com/2007/08/24/manhunt-2-re-rated-from-ao-to-m/
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19:00.54KirkburnQuick question
19:01.04KirkburnWoWWiki, how's its speed today?
19:01.35KirkburnAdys, Gryphen, ping :P
19:01.41Gryphenfine
19:01.50Kirkburncool
19:01.58Adyssup
19:02.02Adysits ok ye
19:03.30pcji've had better
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19:05.49KirkburnCool
19:05.53KirkburnThanks
19:06.01KirkburnThey did some stuff last night
19:06.09KirkburnAbout 12 hours ago
19:08.21deltronwowwiki has some strange ads
19:08.25deltronlike dating sites
19:08.36deltron'if you're over 18 click here'
19:09.39pcjThat's the only reason I visit WoWWiki
19:09.48Teomyrprobably targeted ads
19:10.16Teomyrafter all, wowwiki's audience is wow players, hehe
19:11.31deltronheh
19:11.43deltroni visit wowwiki to pick up chicks!
19:12.03Gryphenlol that one is a cell phone number farming scheme
19:12.34deltroncan we report crappy ads?
19:13.15Gryphenclick the ads by google text to report it to google....as if it will do something heh
19:13.31|Umbra|What happened to all the pics on wiki that have white space around 3 sides?
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19:13.51pcj_3nick pcj
19:13.55pcjdoh
19:14.54Kirkburn|Umbra|, what do you mean?
19:15.06Kirkburnpcj, better than typing your password
19:15.14deltronthis is the flash ad
19:15.20pcjyeah
19:15.23|Umbra|Like this article...
19:15.24|Umbra|http://www.wowwiki.com/Dalaran
19:15.38|Umbra|I see white space on the left, top and bottom of each pic.
19:15.49Kaydeethreeyou using IE?
19:15.50KirkburnBrowser?
19:15.56|Umbra|IE
19:16.09|Umbra|6
19:16.10Gryphenie6
19:16.13KirkburnAs for ads, they should be showing a reasonably relevant ads, but I know the "click here if 18" one has been up on many many many sites
19:16.13Gryphenhehe
19:16.13Kaydeethreebah. did the transparent png js get broken again?
19:16.25Gryphenthe js was removed
19:16.26pcjkirkburn are you watching adys, he's out causing trouble again
19:17.00|Umbra|Any lore gurus in the house?
19:17.10Kirkburn"Gods speed", bloody hell it's like reading Conservapedia
19:17.20Bagginswwhuh?
19:17.33Kirkburn|Umbra|, do you mean the spacing around it?
19:17.36BagginswwI'm leaving for school soon.
19:17.43KirkburnOr do you mean within the picture
19:18.20|Umbra|The pics aren't centered in the graphic box.
19:18.32|Umbra|They have extra space around them.
19:18.33Fisker-btw Bagginsww
19:18.43Fisker-didn't blizzard mention something about Kil'Jaeden being at the sunwell?
19:18.53|Umbra|My background is black...
19:18.54Bagginswwnot that I know of
19:18.57Bagginswwmust have missed it
19:19.02|Umbra|But the space on three sides of the pics are white.
19:20.47KirkburnCan you make a screenshot?
19:21.02|Umbra|Sure
19:22.25foxlit!sup
19:22.26FoxbotThere are currently 0 queued operations.
19:22.36foxlitThat's... interesting
19:22.38Fisker-http://www.wowwiki.com/Sunwell <-ok i add sunwell plateau? :P
19:23.17NeoGeo-xit's been confirmed, hasn't it?
19:23.23NeoGeo-x25 man and a 5 man
19:23.32NeoGeo-xin the last patch before WOTLK
19:23.48Kirkburnaye
19:23.50Dottedlast patcch?
19:23.53Dottedhardly
19:23.57NeoGeo-xwell
19:24.12NeoGeo-xthey said something along the lines of "right before" the expansion release
19:24.23NeoGeo-xlemme find the quote
19:24.27Kaydeethreebefore Wrath. when is still up in the air... gotta get 2.2 and 2.3 out the door first
19:24.32Dottedah i misunderstood
19:24.51|Umbra|http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v694/kbloodworth/Dalaran.jpg
19:25.14Dottedthought you ment 2.2 would be the last before wotlk
19:25.27NeoGeo-x"And, also, this is something we haven't really talked about, so this is somewhat of an exclusive for you guys; Sunwell Plateau, which is an upcoming patch just before Wrath of the Lich King,"
19:25.33foxlitIE5? IE6?
19:25.40pcjhttp://www.bestweekever.tv/2007/08/23/the-finnish-ymca-is-much-gayer-than-the-american-one/
19:25.40Kirkburn6
19:25.57Kirkburn|Umbra|, all pages?
19:26.10NeoGeo-xIE6.. don't use it D:
19:26.11|Umbra|All pages
19:26.13|Umbra|IE6
19:26.40pcjWhat is that, Windows ME?
19:27.00Kaydeethreepart of me wants to blame the div.thumb css. does "border-color: transparent" work right in ie6?
19:27.21foxlitWhy do you even use border if you don't want it to be visible?
19:27.50KirkburnKaydeethree, yeah it's something to do with that
19:28.05KirkburnIt came up previously, cause of the weird way the thumbs are designed
19:28.19KirkburnIf you can work out a fix, I'll slip it into the css
19:29.58Fisker-man
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19:31.24Kaydeethreeline 467, in the div.tright declarion, change border-width to padding, line 434 in the div.thumb declaration, ditch the border-color/border-style lines?
19:31.37Kaydeethreejust hacking around in firebug, it displays the same in fx2 at least
19:32.34DottedKirkburn
19:32.43Dottedyou know what i want
19:32.52Dotted*rawr*
19:33.01pcji don't think kirkburn is equipped to deliver that
19:33.35KirkburnDo you want my package, Dotted?
19:33.36Fisker-indeed pcj
19:33.54KirkburnLaurly quits in disgust :P
19:33.59DottedKirkburn i want my freakin bot working :P
19:34.09Kirkburnharl|WoW, averts his eyes
19:34.17foxlit"Hit the space bar (jump) to climb vertically in the air, much like a Harrier jet. "
19:34.24harl|WoWKirkburn: ?
19:34.26Fisker-OMG NO BOT DEVOICE HIM IMMEDIATELY
19:34.28foxlit[http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/mounts/flying.html]
19:34.38Kirkburnharl|WoW, I'm narrating the channel :)
19:34.49Fisker-i got the freeze plasmid
19:34.50[NewsBot]BlizzPlanet: GC2007 - Actiontrip interviews Jeff Kaplan - http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=1648
19:35.02Dotted[[Test[[Lol]]Rofl]]
19:35.06Dottedaw
19:37.44Dotted{{User:Dotted/Sig}}
19:37.45[NewsBot]Dotted meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:User:Dotted/Sig
19:37.50Dotted;(
19:38.16Gryphen{{user:dotted/sig}}
19:38.17[NewsBot]Gryphen meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:user:dotted/sig
19:38.20Kaydeethreekirk: http://wowwiki.pastey.net/72683
19:38.24Gryphenoh, not smart enough :p
19:38.31Bagginswwwell i'm off ttyl.
19:38.36Kaydeethreerelevent changes are around 430 and 460
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19:38.38Dottedwell Gryphen
19:38.40Dotted!help
19:38.52Dottedhttp://www.wowwiki.com/User:Dotted/NewsBot read the code and try and make it smarter
19:38.54Dotted:P
19:39.02harl|WoWKirkburn: "And the Old Man of Wandering Mountain wrote into his book: "And Old Man of Wandering Mountain wrote into his book: "[..]"" etc etc
19:39.32harl|WoWnarrate that
19:41.20Kirkburnharl|WoW says weird things and expects me to do stuff
19:42.30Dotted{{User:Dotted/Sig}}
19:42.30[NewsBot]Dotted meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:User:Dotted/Sig
19:42.35DottedFAIL
19:43.08KirkburnIt's not a template, duh
19:43.10harl|WoW/target [NewsBot]; /attacktarget; /startattack
19:43.19KirkburnSo why'd you add curly brackets ...
19:43.51[NewsBot]Kirkburn its a user template :p
19:44.04KirkburnSo you [[Banana]] be if I wanted :P
19:44.07Kirkburn*could
19:44.31[NewsBot]huh?
19:44.36Dotted{{User:Dotted/Sig}}
19:44.36[NewsBot]Dotted meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:User:Dotted/Sig
19:44.38Dottednoes
19:45.22Kirkburn[[User:Dotted/Sig]]
19:45.22[NewsBot]Kirkburn meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Dotted/Sig
19:45.32[NewsBot]but thats no fun
19:45.40KirkburnHow on earth is the bot gonna know if it's used as a template?
19:45.45[NewsBot]thats not the way mediawiki handles it
19:46.08KirkburnI could transcluse [[Banana]] if I wanted
19:46.13Kirkburn*transclude
19:46.28KirkburnIt still wouldn't be {{Banana}}
19:46.36KirkburnHow about ...
19:46.39Kirkburn{{:Banana}}
19:46.39Dotted{{User:Dotted/Sig}}
19:46.40[NewsBot]Kirkburn meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/{{:Banana
19:46.40[NewsBot]Dotted meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/{{User:Dotted/Sig
19:46.51Kirkburnarf
19:46.51Dotted=D
19:47.01Kaso_bot looses :>
19:47.02KirkburnChange it so that with a : at the front, it leaves off Template:
19:47.10Dottedye
19:47.36Dotted{{User:Dotted/Sig}}
19:47.37[NewsBot]Dotted meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:User:Dotted/Sig
19:47.40Dotted{{:User:Dotted/Sig}}
19:47.41[NewsBot]Dotted meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Template::User:Dotted/Sig
19:47.44Dottedaw
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19:50.40Dotted{{User:Dotted/Sig}}
19:50.40[NewsBot]Dotted meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/124User:Dotted/Sig _
19:50.46Dottedouh
19:50.52Dottedfuk it
19:51.10pcj{{subst::User:Pcj/sig}}
19:51.11[NewsBot]pcj meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/124subst::User:Pcj/sig _
19:51.25Dotted{{subst::User:Pcj/sig}}
19:51.25[NewsBot]Dotted meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:subst::User:Pcj/sig
19:51.33Dottedeww
19:52.08pcj{{#if:{{{dottedsux|}}}|lol|haha}}
19:52.08[NewsBot]pcj meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/haha
19:52.31pcjhmm
19:52.45pcj{{#ifeq:{{{dotted}}}|sux|lol|haha}}
19:52.45[NewsBot]pcj meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/haha
19:52.48pcjhmmm
19:52.59Kirkburno_O
19:53.00Dottedleet
19:53.05pcj{{#switch:{{{dotted}}}|sux=lol|haha}}
19:53.06[NewsBot]pcj meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/haha
19:53.09pcjpoop
19:54.50|Umbra|Hrm...why doesn't Template:AlsoSee like...
19:54.51pcj[[image:test.png|thumb|200px]]
19:54.52[NewsBot]pcj meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/image:test.png
19:54.52|Umbra|{{AlsoSee|[http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/board.html?forumId=11176&sid=1 Realm Forum], [[Dalaran|City:Dalaran]], [[Server:Dalaran Europe]].}}
19:55.23pcjyou have an = in it umbra
19:55.31pcj{{AlsoSee|1=[http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/board.html?forumId=11176&sid=1 Realm Forum], [[Dalaran|City:Dalaran]], [[Server:Dalaran Europe]].}}
19:55.35pcjis correct
19:55.42|Umbra|Ah
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20:07.16KirkburnGreat comment from a Conservapedia admin: "I objected at your attempt to introduce NPOV, as this is not Wikipedia."
20:07.30Kaydeethreelmao
20:07.34pcjwtf
20:07.44Kirkburnhttp://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Jean-Marie_Le_Pen&curid=43329&diff=275771&oldid=275738
20:07.45pcjthat's hilarious
20:07.52pcjit should be called nazipedia
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20:08.06KirkburnOmg, Godwin
20:08.25pcjwell it's true
20:08.32pcjgood thing we weren't arguing :P
20:09.49Kirkburnhehe
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20:15.08Kirkburn:O
20:15.09DottedKirkburn you dont wanna look at the logo after reading that comment :
20:15.10Dotted(
20:15.17Dottedi cried rl
20:17.06Dottedrofl at this comment
20:17.12Dotted"Are you implying that the US isn't a nice, sane democratic country? Bohdan 13:37, 27 June 2007 (EDT)" <- well yeah
20:17.19Kirkburnlol
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20:18.18Dottedhe does get a +1 in my book for posting at 1337 time
20:20.01|Umbra|Anyone here play Alliance in the Stormstrike battlegroup?
20:20.30KirkburnDotted, hehe
20:20.52|Umbra|What is your average wait time Dotted?
20:21.03Dottedi don pvp
20:21.06Dotted*dont
20:21.18Kirkburnoops, wasn't suggesting he's in it
20:22.00KirkburnAbout "NPOV", it's quite easy to forget that it's already negative, but it's still so awesomely appropriate for CP
20:22.21KirkburnWell, "neutral"
20:22.59Dottedhttp://www.conservapedia.com/Atheist#American.27s_view_of_atheists omfg
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20:23.08KalrothCaze sucks!
20:23.16CazeNo I don't!
20:23.22AdysKalroth sucks!
20:23.26CazeKalroth sucks moar.
20:23.26Kalroth:(
20:23.35KalrothTwo against one, no fair.
20:23.38KalrothKirkburn: Help?!
20:23.59CazeKirkburn thinks you smell, so no diff
20:24.10pcjpwned
20:24.17AdysKalroth: cycle plx
20:24.18KirkburnPunchline, :O
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20:24.34pcj:O
20:24.36KalrothHooray, the channel was gone, but now it's back
20:24.45KirkburnDotted, scary isn't it
20:24.54Dottedidd
20:25.22DottedOnly in America™
20:25.26Kalroth&msg Adys Thanks, I'll send you 10 uhmm, what ever currency you use in french land later!
20:25.27Kirkburn:O
20:25.44pcjeuros
20:25.48Adysthanks.
20:25.57pcjnp
20:26.02Kalrothlol
20:27.56DottedKirkburn WWrc is silent ;(
20:28.29Kirkburn:(
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20:28.42NeoGeo-xfinally, the vandal got what he had coming
20:28.43NeoGeo-xD:
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20:29.09KalrothD'oh
20:29.11Kirkburnhaha!
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20:29.52Kalrothhahah
20:29.57*** mode/#wowwiki [-o+b Kirkburn *!n=kirkburn@*.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] by Adys
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20:30.21Kirkburnhmmmmmmmmm
20:30.23KirkburnCan you say ... wheel war?
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20:31.08pcjwheel war
20:31.10pcjyep
20:31.13Kalrothwheel war
20:31.15KirkburnCongrats
20:31.16KalrothYup, works fine
20:31.27Kalrothi r win @ irc
20:31.31KirkburnKalroth, for coming second you get this box
20:31.39KirkburnOf DEMONS! Muahahaha
20:31.43KalrothD'oh!
20:31.54KirkburnIt's my demons in a box
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20:32.04pcjhi dutempete
20:32.09KirkburnAFKDuTempete, omg hai
20:32.27AFKDuTempetenowae,hai!
20:32.33Adyshi AFKDuTempete
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20:32.36KirkburnOmg, stealerer
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20:33.08Kirkburn>_>
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20:33.18AFKDuTempeteomg, you guys have to see this video
20:33.20AFKDuTempeterofl
20:33.29KirkburnI'm so not going to be able to :(
20:33.32KalrothKirkburn: What is hard?
20:33.38KalrothWait .. cancel that.
20:33.38AFKDuTempeteI'll send it to you later ;)
20:33.44Kirkburnyay
20:33.58KirkburnSuch fun convos we have :)
20:34.01AFKDuTempetekalroth kalroth kalroth... you should know better.
20:34.07KirkburnBtw, my housemate got back ... eventually
20:34.09KalrothSorry ma'am :(
20:34.10AFKDuTempetelol
20:34.21AFKDuTempetehe still wasn't back by the time you went to bed?
20:34.22KirkburnAt 4:30am. Without any money. In a taxi. With company.
20:34.29AFKDuTempeteomg lol
20:34.36AFKDuTempeteoh shit, company?!
20:34.49KirkburnMy door ... doesn't shut properly
20:34.49KalrothMale or female?
20:34.58pcjProbably
20:35.28Adyspcj: "Probably male or female" ?
20:35.35Kirkburnyeah, it's true
20:35.43AFKDuTempeteno, seriously, this video is an interview with one of the guys from Cannibal Corpse, and he just talks about world of warcraft the whole time.
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20:35.53KalrothAFKDuTempete: oooold
20:35.53Kirkburnbye bye Punchline ...
20:35.56AFKDuTempetewoah... there was a punchline?
20:35.58GnarfozAFKDuTempete: link?
20:36.01Dottedseen it, its pwn AFKDuTempete'
20:36.03AFKDuTempetesec, I will
20:36.22AFKDuTempeteomg this is LONG
20:36.24Kalrothhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXtyYiI5HDk
20:36.29pcjooooold
20:36.39KalrothSorry ma'am
20:36.55DuTempetedurr, forgot I was still afk =P
20:37.03Kirkburn:)
20:37.22KalrothShould I be freaked out by a dead Clefthoof Bull still following me around?
20:37.27pcjNo
20:37.31pcjThat's just Kirkburn
20:37.39KalrothIt's a keyboard turner too
20:37.46pcjExactly
20:37.56KalrothKirkburn: Are you a keyboard turner?
20:38.09KirkburnHow dare you!?
20:38.21pcjwhat's with the ?
20:38.36Kirkburnpcj, it's ususally used to denote a question
20:38.51DuTempetelol I had 3 or 4 corpses follow me around, once.
20:38.51KirkburnAn odd symbol, you can find it on many keyboards
20:38.59pcjHowever, "How dare you" is not usually concluded with a ?
20:39.17KirkburnYet it is a question!?
20:39.18Kalrothpcj: Maybe he really wants to know?
20:39.24DuTempeteOk, here's the URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXtyYiI5HDk
20:39.34pcj<Kalroth> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXtyYiI5HDk
20:39.42Kalrothnono, don't do that pcj
20:39.46Kalrotherr
20:39.48Kalrothnono, don't do that, pcj
20:40.34pcjdo what
20:40.44KalrothRemind her about the link that I posted
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20:41.08KalrothSee, now I'm getting the evil glare.
20:41.55KalrothAnd that bloody Clefthoof Bull is still staring at me. While dead.
20:43.48Kirkburnlol
20:44.03KirkburnLiterally following you, or the stuck to a point swivelling
20:46.18FtH|Daemonaeuropean rogues, be my guests - http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=612611584&sid=1
20:46.22KalrothThe latter and it's freaking me out
20:47.07KalrothI'm a tauren huntard, it's bad enough I'm running around killing bulls. Now I have a christmas spirit on me too, giving me a bad guilt trip.
20:47.41pcjThinking about rerolling druid?
20:48.19KalrothDruid? They're a bunch of hippie treehuggers, hell no!
20:48.37BibiTree huggers, tea suckers, all the same.
20:49.06Bibia baugette ?
20:49.06KirkburnBibi, rawr
20:49.07Bibinon mon ami.
20:49.21KalrothA baguette, sorry!
20:49.30Bibioui mon ami !
20:49.39KalrothFrench isn't my strongest side.
20:49.52KirkburnWhat's your other side?
20:50.02KalrothBeer.
20:50.05KalrothLots and lots of it.
20:50.21KalrothThat explains why my french is bad though, no?
20:51.33DuTempetewtf, why are you poking me?
20:51.41DuTempeteI'm only a treehugger irl, not in game, sheesh.
20:51.42KirkburnTea
20:51.59KirkburnWait, yeah, I'm not a druid either
20:52.03DuTempetehehe
20:52.11DuTempeteWarlock powah!
20:52.50KalrothBad Bibi, bad.
20:53.00DuTempeteI only played a druid to lvl 26 in the beta, and hated it =P
20:53.57Adyshttp://spamusement.com/index.php/comics/view/254 <3
20:59.59Bibi[22:52:06] <DuTempete> I only played a druid
21:00.04BibiQFT.
21:00.24DuTempetedie.
21:01.02Bibi[22:50:48] <DuTempete> I
21:01.02Bibi[22:59:31] <DuTempete> die.
21:01.04BibiQFT.
21:01.22Bibiand Adys : not fun
21:02.34DuTempeteOk, now that was senseless copy/pasting Bibi.  That has no effect on me.
21:03.03BibiBecause usually I do have effect on you ?
21:03.07BibiWant to talk about it ?
21:12.58DuTempeteWell, you're French, Bibi, that's abou the extent of it.
21:13.40DuTempeteHowever I'm continually finding that you're the sort of Frenchman that is least interesting.  The French Asshole.  (I do say, the French are very good at that.)
21:14.24Adys:(
21:14.32DuTempeteNot you, Adys. =P
21:14.36Adys:)
21:16.59BibiAdys isn't french anyway
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21:17.18DuTempeteSure sounded french to me...
21:17.23BibiI think it's double V and one single f Adys.
21:17.43*** kick/#wowwiki [Bibi!i=Adys@APoitiers-257-1-18-240.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr] by Adys (va te faire voir chez les canadiens)
21:17.43*** join/#wowwiki Bibi (n=Boubouil@AVelizy-151-1-102-125.w90-35.abo.wanadoo.fr)
21:18.47DuTempetedammit, Adys, now I have to get my dictionary out...
21:19.09AdysBibi: tu fout quoi avec un hostmask a vélizy de toute facon?
21:19.27BibiBah, j'bosse pour Blizzard
21:19.37Adysm'en doutais
21:19.38BibiJ'suis la pour lister tout ce que tu datamine et t'arreter
21:19.43Adyswoot
21:19.52DuTempeteDammit.
21:19.55DuTempeteVent, you two!
21:20.02Adysvent yourself!
21:20.24AdysI gave you one, bah. :)
21:20.28pcjuse skype lol
21:20.35DuTempeteYou're never on it!
21:21.42KirkburnVent yourself
21:22.11KirkburnI want my own PC!
21:22.30AdysDotted: add mmo-champion feeds to #wowhead plx
21:23.36DuTempetesoon, Kirk, soon.
21:26.47[NewsBot]MMO Champion: Level 1 to 58 leveling : Before WotLK ! - http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=748.0
21:29.52DottedAdys done
21:30.27Taurmindoat what time does APB update?
21:30.27Adys<3
21:32.22Teomyrargh, making network cables yourself sucks
21:32.51Teomyrthis RJ45 plug appears relatively unimpressed by my cheap crimping tool
21:34.43DuTempetewhy the hell are you making network cables yourself, Teomyr?
21:35.53Teomyrbecause we still have about 100m of network cable lying around here
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21:39.34pcjnetwork cables is easier than phone cables :P
21:40.04pcjare you doing T568A or T568B teomyr
21:40.22TeomyrT568B
21:40.25pcjnice
21:40.31Teomyrbut i fail
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21:41.04pcjyeah RJ25 sucks
21:41.15pcj6 wires in one tiny plug
21:41.32Teomyrmy crimping tool sucks
21:41.39Teomyrit's a very cheap one
21:42.12Teomyrit only crimped half of the plug, meaning 4 pins are still up
21:45.19pcjnice
21:52.28*** join/#wowwiki Zurr (n=IceChat7@cpe-71-74-154-252.neo.res.rr.com)
21:53.26Zurrvandal on the wiki
21:53.45Adysthats quite accurate
21:54.05Zurr[[Special:Contributions/Hanzbiggums]]
21:54.06[NewsBot]Zurr meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Contributions/Hanzbiggums
21:54.52Adysfixed it all
21:56.32Gryphenthink he plays on blackwing lair? lol
21:57.13pcjthraebot: c us blackwing lair hanzbiggums
21:57.17ThraeBotpcj: Hanzbiggums, Level 70 Undead Rogue (16/45/0). 10024 HP; +10 Energy; 1593 AP; 369.8 Melee DPS; 25.9% melee crit; 95 melee hit; 22.06% dodge; 285 resilience; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1079 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2ftkc8 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3b6ah7 ]]
21:57.22pcjno, don't think so
21:57.50Gryphennot by that name
21:58.33pcjthraebot: c us blackwing lair Erettaedis
21:58.59Gryphenhttp://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Blackwing Lair&n=Hanzbiggums
21:59.15Gryphenhttp://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Blackwing+Lair&n=Hanzbiggums
21:59.17Gryphenheh
22:00.05pcjDamn, one profession
22:02.38KirkburnWould be nice if you could delete certain page revisions
22:02.54foxlitWhy? :)
22:03.00Kirkburn"Replacing page with 'I DO THIS ALL NIGHT BITCHES'" ... orly?
22:03.14foxlitBut who cares? :)
22:03.19foxlitStorage is cheap
22:03.26KirkburnHe's already tried to make one new account :P
22:03.59KirkburnYeah, but it histories full of vandalism help no-one :(
22:04.02*** join/#wowwiki Capa (n=Capa@dhcp-077-250-231-234.chello.nl)
22:04.27foxlitHelps people interested in keeping pages clean
22:04.51KirkburnBtw, we're up to 1900 blocks total
22:05.01foxlitblocks?
22:05.06foxlitAh, blocks
22:05.08KirkburnYeah, since the wiki started, afaik
22:05.09foxlitDammit, was thinking storage
22:05.14KirkburnNot total active though
22:05.15pcjThat's more blocks than in a typical kindergarten class
22:05.19foxlit"wtf, who measures disk space in blocks?"
22:05.45KirkburnWe're on about 350 active blocks
22:06.01Capawas wowwiki fkced up just a few mins ago? or am i going nuts? :S
22:06.09pcjboth
22:06.13Capalol
22:06.17Capatnx ;)
22:07.17KirkburnGotta love the usernames like "Kirkburn is a Geek"m "Kirkburn is gay"
22:07.26Kirkburn"WOW_WIKI_IS_FASCISM_!"
22:07.42Kirkburn"Fuck Kirkburn"
22:07.54Zurr"Sq1Eal"
22:07.56DuTempetewait
22:08.01DuTempetethat last one is mine
22:08.05DuTempeteyou didn't think that was funny? :(
22:08.23KirkburnWas I supposed to be surprised? :O
22:08.35DuTempetehehe
22:08.36pcjDid this room turn into questions only?
22:09.01DuTempetesince when, pcj?
22:09.15Gryphenwhat makes you say that pcj?
22:09.40pcjdidn't it seem like that to anyone else?
22:09.53Kirkburnnot myself, but what about you Adys?
22:10.07Adys?
22:10.18Kirkburntouche
22:10.23pcjhow are you supposed to respond to "?"?
22:10.36DuTempetelol
22:13.29foxlitWith a "!"
22:13.33foxlitOr a "."
22:15.01DuTempeteoh, fun VP vandalism
22:15.12pcjhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Government_of_Stormwind_%28Darkmoon_Faire_EU%29 *facepalm*
22:15.33DuTempeteHe was even nice enough to explain that he removed allthe content in his edit summary. =P
22:15.39KirkburnDuTempete, people just don't get that popular vandalism is pointless
22:15.55pcjDuTempete: That's automatic by MediaWiki
22:15.59KirkburnYou have to vandalise templates people have forgotten about, or minor pages :/
22:16.14DuTempeteah, I've never seen that before
22:16.16KirkburnAye, yay for MW 1.9
22:16.17DuTempetelol
22:16.28KirkburnI think 1.10 added some more auto stuff
22:16.56pcjLoot
22:16.56Gryphenwtf is that page pcj
22:17.00Gryphenfanfic?
22:17.08pcjidk gryphen but they just moved it from Guild:
22:17.09KirkburnAye
22:17.16KirkburnIt's not a guild
22:17.20KirkburnIt's a bit of a problem
22:17.26DuTempeteDo you think anyone will notice if I replace {{tooltip}} with "I want to have Kirkburn's babies!"?
22:17.26Grypheni put it under his user name
22:17.37Gryphenhe moved it out
22:18.00KirkburnIt's an RP server construction I think
22:18.26KirkburnDuTempete, nah, no-one will
22:18.29KirkburnIt's completely natural
22:18.53KirkburnServer subpage seems best I reckon
22:18.55pcjDelete http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Kyelv/Government_of_Stormwind and move it back ther
22:18.56pcje
22:19.05pcjSince he's the only contributor it's [[WW:PA}]
22:19.11pcj* [[WW:PA]]
22:19.16KirkburnThat would be his choice though
22:19.31pcjNah, he moved it to Guild: and erroneously corrected himself
22:19.33Gryphenserver subpage if rp imo
22:19.50pcjper which policy?
22:20.00KirkburnAsk him what it is
22:20.06KirkburnProbably easiest
22:20.45pcjGryphen did http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Kyelv
22:21.15Grypheni gave him the tools to figure out what to do, im not going to bug him more about it, someone else can
22:21.26Zurrvandalism by [[User:Jsh_harm]]
22:21.28Zurr[[User:Jsh_harm]]
22:21.29[NewsBot]Zurr meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Jsh_harm
22:21.58Zurri think its the same huggins guy
22:22.04Gryphenit is
22:23.36GryphenHanzbiggums = Josh = http://www.facesofwow.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=lastupby&cat=0&pos=0
22:24.02pcjomg hawt
22:24.03Gryphenhe's koo man
22:24.28Zurri can't see it
22:24.31Gryphengoogle cache has that pic labeled as Hanzbiggums
22:24.44KirkburnNotice how we don't show those types of ads on WoWWiki :)
22:24.55KirkburnBtw, I haven't seen a gold/levelling ad in the past few days
22:25.11Dottedhi Kirkburn
22:25.17pcjI haven't seen any ads in a few years
22:25.23Kirkburn><
22:25.35Dottedwhat's ads you say?
22:25.43Kirkburnheh
22:25.44Dottednever heard of it
22:25.48Dottedsrsly
22:25.50Dotted:p
22:26.16KirkburnAn interesting thing - logged in users should see fewer ads than logged out ones ont he new skin iirc
22:26.44Dottedwhat about donators recieve no-ads?
22:27.09KirkburnNo-one donates ...
22:27.16Dottedmight help
22:27.34KirkburnI think ads and partnership deals are enough
22:27.54KirkburnI doubt people would donate to Wikia, it gets investment
22:27.55pcji'll donate dotted's spleen
22:28.03Dotted;O
22:28.16Dottedtru dat
22:28.33Kirkburn(btw, the new skin is likely to be created today, not going to be added yet though)
22:28.46Dottedi was tempoarly living in the world of wowwiki owned by it self
22:29.04Dottedis it gonna be queer like wikia.com?
22:29.13Gryphenhehe
22:29.46pcjWow, how exciting, we sould always refer to 24 August as "New WoWWiki Skin Creation Day"
22:30.04pcjthere could be punch and songs and cake
22:30.06pcjoh boy oh boy
22:30.14DottedQUICK MAKE AN ARTICLE
22:30.18TaurmindoThraeBot: char eu the venture co rikon
22:30.19DottedTO THE BATCAVE
22:30.26ThraeBotTaurmindo: Rikon, Level 70 Night Elf Hunter (49/12/0). 7621 HP; 5668 Mana; 99 mana regen; 20 mp5; 4640 Armour; 1164 AP; 176.4 Melee DPS; 11.38% melee crit; 45 melee hit; 1253 RAP; 259.3 Ranged DPS; 11.42% ranged crit; 45 ranged hit; 12.83% dodge; 18 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1733 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2z4yaj ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3xjlnk ]]
22:30.41Kirkburnlol
22:30.43Zurr[[User:Imacbsfn]]
22:30.43[NewsBot]Zurr meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Imacbsfn
22:30.51Gryphenya banned
22:30.59KirkburnThe guy doing the skins is cool guy
22:31.08Gryphendoesnt make the skin cool :p
22:31.26pcjor anyone who uses the skin cool
22:31.40Gryphenor anyone who says skin cool
22:31.44KirkburnNo, but he's the type of person I would give free reign to design stuff
22:31.56pcjpwnd http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Government_of_Stormwind_%28Darkmoon_Faire_EU%29&curid=124304&diff=840483&oldid=840452&rcid=758076
22:32.16DuTempeteskin!
22:32.26DottedKirkburn just in case, are we still able to use theold design?
22:32.31KirkburnYes, yes
22:32.35Dottedwoohoo
22:32.52KirkburnThe new skin would only show as default for new visitors
22:32.59pcjPoor newbies
22:33.06Dottedidd
22:33.07KirkburnThe only affect on the content box is a wider sidebar
22:33.09DuTempeteKirk, are you keeping track of how many times you've had to say that? =P
22:33.14Kirkburnlol
22:33.20KirkburnI need to make an FAQ page
22:33.25DottedKirkburn
22:33.25pcjI'm gonna add "switch to better skin plz" to the welcome text
22:33.26DuTempeteyou should!
22:33.32Dottedstop slacking
22:33.33GryphenKirkburn has bias :)
22:33.42Kirkburnlol, no
22:33.49KirkburnI've been using it for a while now
22:33.51DuTempeteit's just a FAQ, Gryph
22:34.04Dottedi want a status report every hour from now on how progress is made on the server change for the RC bot
22:34.07KirkburnCurrently I'm 50/50 between the skins
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22:34.09Dotted:D
22:34.28DuTempeteIt's not like he's going to putting the answers to questions like "Will the new skin suck ass?"
22:34.37KirkburnMonobook is simple, but Quartz is just a better presentation of everything
22:35.09KirkburnFor newbies especially it's way easier to use
22:35.11pcjYou're right, DuTempete, I'd better be the one to make the FAQ
22:35.16DuTempetehehe
22:35.22Grypheni think it's gimmicky
22:35.27DuTempeteaye, me too
22:35.27pcjand fugly
22:35.31DuTempetebut some of that can be useful
22:35.34DuTempetein some way
22:35.49DuTempetenot necessarily all of it, though =P
22:35.53pcjMaybe if MySpace converted to a wiki format
22:35.54Gryphenpieces of flair
22:35.56KirkburnWhat parts exactly? It's useful to get feedback
22:36.03DuTempete30 pieces of flair!
22:36.10Kirkburnhttp://bioshock.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page as an example
22:36.18pcjoh god now i need to go rest my eyes
22:36.41Kirkburn(btw disregard speed issues, there's a fair bit of optimization going on, so it should get faster and faster)
22:37.04DuTempetethat doesn't have all the stuff the demo skins did, Kirk
22:37.15[NewsBot]GamePolitics: Watchdog Group Calls for Investigation in Wake of Manhunt 2 Re-rate - http://gamepolitics.com/2007/08/24/watchdog-group-calls-for-investigation-in-wake-of-manhunt-2-re-rate/
22:37.21Kirkburnoh?
22:37.39DuTempetethe demo had a box that was something like "meet the editors" or some shit like that
22:37.47KirkburnOh that stuff, yeah ignore that
22:37.49DuTempetebut it wasn't for the indiv article
22:37.54DuTempeteit was for the whole wiki
22:37.58Gryphenthats a user choice widget
22:38.01DuTempetethat shit'd be changing every 5 seconds
22:38.33DuTempetepersonally, I really adore the tab metaphor
22:38.53DuTempeteit gives you the feeling that it's really all about one document
22:39.15Kirkburn(aha http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Preview_Default_Skin_1.gif )
22:39.25DuTempetethe bar in that skin just looks like every other navbar on the web
22:39.34pcj /vomit
22:39.38DottedKirkburn how are you gonna deal with multiple skins? there are alot of hardcoded colors used to match the wowwiki skin on many articles and templates
22:40.06pcjgod who is emil he looks like a dork
22:40.10KirkburnThat's something we have to fix, but the new skin has exactly the same content box colour
22:40.18DuTempetethe ratings are gimmicky, the share it is gimmicky, but really, I've already said all that on the discussion page
22:40.23Dottednice username Kirkburn
22:40.39KirkburnHaha, the skin designer is one of those pics
22:40.55KirkburnI didn't notice him put himself in there
22:41.26Dotteddoesnt look too queer tho
22:42.08Kirkburnmy ears!
22:42.23DuTempeteUnderworld album?
22:42.30DuTempete'splain
22:42.33BleeterI was gunna play you some Iain Drury and the Blockheads last night, but you weren't here :(
22:42.42KirkburnDotted, language.
22:42.46DuTempeteplay it now!
22:42.53Dotted;(
22:43.23DuTempetelinxors to me!
22:43.42Dottedthought queer was better to use than gay, but now im not so sure - ok i shut up now and go to bed kthx
22:43.50Bleeter/net/192.168.70.2/mnt/sda1/more_music/Underworld/Oblivion_With_Bells/
22:43.51pcjbloody fag
22:44.08Kirkburnoi
22:44.14Gryphenhehe
22:45.42Bleeteromg, love the title of this one...
22:46.27DuTempeteDotted, it's the context, not the word.
22:46.58DuTempeteUsing "queer" or "gay" to describe anything but a person of the homo- or bisexual persuasion is generally unacceptable.
22:48.02KirkburnUnless they bring it up, at which point it seems to turn into open season ><
22:48.03Bleeternot really, it's a dialect thing
22:48.14Kirkburnomg, Zurr_AFK, not even a reaon? :O
22:48.23DottedAnd this concluded todays English Language 101 by DuTempete
22:48.45KirkburnEven if it's a dialect thing, you still shouldn't do it
22:48.47pcjtoday's*
22:48.52Kirkburnhaha
22:49.18DottedKirkburn give me op for a sec i need to do something >>;-)
22:49.40BleeterKirkburn: what about people with the name 'Gay'? There's a story kicking around here of some poor chick in one of the cities nearby who couldn't register on a social networking site 'coz it refused to believe Gay was her surname
22:49.42Kirkburn<<:-) no
22:49.42*** mode/#wowwiki [-o Dotted] by Gryphen
22:49.52Kirkburno_O
22:50.02*** mode/#wowwiki [-o Dotted] by Kirkburn
22:50.04Dottedlike
22:50.11DottedGaylord Focker
22:50.17Kirkburnheh
22:50.21Dottedpcj that's just ***
22:50.35pcjfull of win?
22:50.46KirkburnBleeter, if it's not being used in a derogatory sense, there's no problem
22:50.51Dottedfof actually
22:50.55Dottedfull of fai
22:50.56Dottedl
22:50.59KirkburnFAIL
22:51.02pcjur fase
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22:51.06Bleeterand then there's the whole Cockburn set of names
22:51.08*** mode/#wowwiki [-o Dotted] by Kirkburn
22:51.11Dottedfase?
22:51.18DottedKirkburn stop spamming
22:51.19pcjis full of fail
22:51.37Dotted...and mke my bot work
22:51.46pcjworks now
22:51.51Dottedpcj dont wannabe ban [NewsBot]
22:51.56Dotted;(
22:52.14Dottedpcj another bot of mine not [NewsBot]
22:52.39pcjno u
22:53.12Dottedbut meh Kirkburn when i move tommorow i dunno ifmy isp is paranoid and is blocking all ports or whatever so might be an idea to wait abit
22:53.25Dottedpcj its true its name is WWrc
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22:53.37Kirkburnkk
22:53.37pcjhow creative
22:54.04Dottedpcj WoWWiki Recent Changes bot
22:54.13pcjno wai
22:54.14twoshadetodis there any place to download teh expansion demo besides the official site? for whatever reason i'm blocked or something from it i have to go through a proxy to access the website, game works but site does not ?!
22:55.14KirkburnChecked our patches page?
22:55.18Kirkburn[[Patches]]
22:55.18[NewsBot]Kirkburn meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Patches
22:55.20Dottedand if i (which would actually mean kirkburn stops slacking) can get it working we can du all sorts of things like vandalism detection
22:55.24KirkburnGotta love that
22:55.36KirkburnIt's not me slacking :(
22:55.40Dottedwith a third bot
22:55.59Dottedi know, but its most fun to blame you
22:56.06twoshadetodno i didn'ty do you guys have the full bc download there?
22:56.12Dottedye
22:56.42twoshadetodi'd hate to have to download it rhough proxy that'd take forever , specially since im addicted and will be playing while downloading lol
22:57.19twoshadetodso the "full client" download, is that WOW+bc in one package?
22:57.40twoshadetoder nm i need to l2read i see it
22:57.50Kirkburnwoop
22:58.33*** mode/#wowwiki [+v Boubouille] by ChanServ
22:58.53KirkburnThis sounds like an MMO-Champion post is coming
22:59.22Boubouillewhat ?
22:59.23Boubouillewhat ?
22:59.26Boubouillewhat did I miss ?
22:59.27Boubouilleplease
22:59.32Boubouilletell bibi, he's nice and french !
23:01.22KirkburnWhen you change to Boubouille it sounds like you're getting all official for some reason
23:01.34Bibifu bitch
23:01.40Kirkburn:(
23:01.46KirkburnI was getting hopeful for cool news
23:07.28twoshadetodgod i hate these patch mirror sites, 1/100 makes it easy to download the rest suck
23:08.53Kaydeethreea.scarywater.net/de. all I ever use
23:09.01Kaydeethreeer
23:09.05Kirkburnwirebrain?
23:09.12Kaydeethreeya. was thinking of something else
23:09.16Kaydeethreea.wirebrain.de/wow
23:09.16Kirkburn>_>
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23:10.01twoshadetodi found what looks like a guilds site, 400k downloads
23:10.05Dottedtwoshadetod just use torrent
23:10.17twoshadetodfor some reason i've never had luck with those
23:10.19twoshadetodspeedwise
23:10.31twoshadetodbe nice if they had a NG for it
23:10.40twoshadetodalways get 700+k downloads there
23:11.03foxlit"scarywater" :)
23:11.25foxlitI disabled P2P in blizzard downloader on a mac and got 700 KB/s from blizzard servers
23:11.31twoshadetodill check it out if this download gets slowed or any problems happen, how is their sped?
23:11.45twoshadetodyeah bliz has my ip blocked from the website
23:11.53Kaydeethree!?
23:11.58twoshadetodi think, i can never connect directly in a webbrowser have ot go through a proxy
23:12.05twoshadetodand it sucks cuz i like armory
23:12.22twoshadetodyeah no idea why, and the game never has a problem connecting juust the website
23:12.43foxlitnow now, what have you done? :)
23:13.14twoshadetodNothing, just for w/e reason for the last 3 weeks i can never connect directly to the site, yeah it's odd. maybe I can get my isp to change my ip
23:13.52Kaydeethreepower cycle your cable modem or run a dhcp release/renew on your router
23:13.58twoshadetodyeah i was thinking that
23:14.35twoshadetodbut chances are "different" ip's aren't in the pool , seems to only work once in a blue moon maybe because others dont release? not sure
23:14.37twoshadetodbut worth a shot
23:15.00Grypheni couldnt connect to wow.com from home for like a month, i disconnected my router for a while and then did a release/renew and it worked
23:15.03twoshadetodafter this download i will
23:15.41twoshadetodhey lock question, does unstable affliction "stack" with corruption and CoA (and others)
23:15.57DuTempetestack?
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23:16.03twoshadetodcoexist
23:16.07DuTempeteyes
23:16.09Sandwichman2448thoughts on my stupidity?
23:16.10twoshadetodawsome
23:16.29DuTempeteit's not really a "stack" as Blizzard uses the term
23:16.40twoshadetodyeah thats why i put "'s
23:16.45twoshadetodsymantics lol
23:16.46DuTempetehehe
23:16.51DuTempete*semantics
23:16.57twoshadetodahhh speling
23:16.58twoshadetodhahahhaha
23:17.01twoshadetodyeah i know just kidding
23:17.06twoshadetodabout the spelling not the other,
23:17.59Sandwichman2448http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Sandwichman2448#Gallery I spammed MV images.
23:19.16twoshadetodhow about combat rogue axe stun, does that proc enough to be worth it?
23:19.23twoshadetodmace lol
23:19.27twoshadetodgod, im horrible today
23:20.13Sandwichman2448No one cares? I'm in the clear? Woo!
23:20.42KirkburnSandwichman2448, cool
23:20.58KirkburnI clarified the image guidelines a while back btw
23:20.58DuTempeteI'm not sure what you're saying about those images, SWM
23:21.04KirkburnModel Viewer
23:21.11KirkburnIt was once a bit of a taboo subject
23:21.13Sandwichman2448It is on my page.
23:21.20DuTempetethat's what I mean
23:21.24DuTempetewhy taboo?
23:21.26Kirkburn[[WW:IMAGE]]
23:21.26[NewsBot]Kirkburn meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/WW:IMAGE
23:21.31KirkburnDtaa mining
23:21.33Kirkburn*data
23:21.37DuTempeteah
23:21.44DuTempetebut we do it anyway?
23:21.58DuTempeteso it's ok now?
23:22.17Sandwichman2448On my user page, not mainspace.
23:22.26Kirkburnokay if it's released content
23:22.35KirkburnAnd there's no better in-game screenshot
23:22.58KirkburnSandwichman2448, I would say they're good for use on the appropriate pages
23:22.59Sandwichman2448Both are true for all but the orc clan ones.
23:23.08Sandwichman2448I'll remove those.
23:23.17KirkburnHow do you mean?
23:23.32Sandwichman2448The first six
23:23.38Kirkburn(you're find to keep the stuff on your userpage btw)
23:23.39Sandwichman2448Are not in game.
23:23.51Sandwichman2448Oddly
23:23.52KirkburnOh? Just unused?
23:23.54Sandwichman2448Yes
23:23.59KirkburnMeh, keep them
23:24.03Sandwichman2448K
23:24.13DuTempeteafk for a bit
23:24.14KirkburnAdd them to the appropriate pages, even
23:24.21Sandwichman2448Woo
23:25.09Sandwichman2448The legion has one too, but it is a hologram made of exaust.
23:26.59KirkburnSandwichman2448, about when you called admins "sir" ... it mainly felt odd because admins are supposed to be equal members of the wiki. Almost felt like we were being addressed as "Your Majesty", I guess. We don't (well, I don't) want people to feel that they are "worth" less than us.
23:27.30Dottedbut we are
23:27.46Sandwichman2448And I bow to that.
23:27.54Dottedwe are all worthless peons to serve the mighty admins
23:27.59KirkburnNo, don't bow! ;P
23:28.00Sandwichman2448Yup
23:28.24KirkburnOh the hologram? Remind me which
23:29.17Sandwichman2448Can you make them smaller?
23:29.33Sandwichman2448They were smaller on my page...
23:29.43Sandwichman2448I broke it again.
23:29.55Culation|200px| (or whatever width) in the image line
23:30.08Sandwichman2448http://www.wowwiki.com/Draenei#Culture
23:31.19Sandwichman2448Did not help...
23:31.24Sandwichman2448er
23:31.34CulationDotted, :(
23:32.27Dottedi was just going to ask wth Culation is
23:32.40CulationDammit, just say it
23:32.44Dottedbut then wow started
23:33.01CulationBastard
23:33.15Dottedhuh?
23:33.24KirkburnSir Culation ....
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23:33.42Dottedwhat does culation mean anyway?
23:33.52KirkburnNothing you fool, Dr. Dre's dead!
23:34.05DottedoO
23:34.12Sandwichman2448Hey Pcj, see what i broke? :)
23:34.38KirkburnDamn, I misquoted
23:34.39pcjthe Internet?
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23:34.55Kirkburn"Nothing, you idiot, Dr. Dre's dead"
23:35.00Sandwichman2448Not this time, just the image on the draenei page.
23:35.21KirkburnDotted, culation means nothing
23:35.27KirkburnIt was a pun, or play on words.
23:36.07Sandwichman2448http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casiguran%2C_Aurora it is a town.
23:36.37KirkburnHave I missed something?
23:36.48Sandwichman2448No...
23:36.55Sandwichman2448Why?
23:38.57Sandwichman2448I'll just remove my pic on the Draenei page.
23:39.16Kirkburnconfused
23:39.22Sandwichman2448About?
23:39.26KirkburnDon't assume I know what you're referring to :P
23:39.36KirkburnWhat does Casiguran have to do with anything?
23:39.38Sandwichman2448No
23:39.59Sandwichman2448Oh, someone misspelled it culation
23:40.38KirkburnWhy remove the image?!
23:40.43Sandwichman2448http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=culation
23:40.53Sandwichman2448It is huge on the page.
23:41.03KirkburnMake it smaller then :)
23:41.07KirkburnI shall fiddle
23:41.14Sandwichman2448Ok...
23:42.46Sandwichman2448OOH! Smaller. Nice job.
23:43.20Sandwichman2448Mentioning a kama was my first edit.
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23:44.34Sandwichman2448Hello!
23:48.20pcjwhat
23:48.34Sandwichman2448Just saying hi...
23:48.41pcjgeez
23:49.43Sandwichman2448:(
23:50.22pcjwhat
23:51.50Sandwichman2448http://www.wowwiki.com/Shadow_Council How is this one?
23:52.32twoshadetoddamn
23:52.47Sandwichman2448What?
23:52.50twoshadetodthere was a picture i found a long time ago, a southpark character dressed up in what looked like frozenshadow weave
23:52.58twoshadetodi didn't save it, and now trying to find it i can't
23:53.12Kirkburnomg, rofl - http://www.conservapedia.com/Image:Magnetic_field.gif
23:53.14twoshadetodit was in google images, one of the characters , dont know the names only cartman
23:53.17pcjNeeds a caption
23:53.17twoshadetodbut it was sweet
23:53.22twoshadetodanyone seen it?
23:53.47Sandwichman2448Perhaps
23:54.26pcjwtf kirkburn
23:54.32pcjwhy are you trying to pollute my thought patterns
23:55.14Sandwichman2448With his picture?
23:55.38pcjwith all his conservapedia garbage
23:55.43pcjit makes normal conservatives look bad
23:55.59Sandwichman2448LOL
23:56.34Sandwichman2448http://www.wowwiki.com/Shadow_Council Add the rest like that?
23:57.11pcjNeeds a caption
23:57.36Sandwichman2448Needs a factionbox
23:58.16Sandwichman2448K captioned
23:59.42Sandwichman2448I g2g, the US gets Doctor Who a season late. Bye all.
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