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00:05.05KirkburnAdys, assuming ohnoes really is TB, that just makes me sad :/
00:23.38[NewsBot]WoW Insider: How to find a new guild - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/22/how-to-find-a-new-guild/
00:37.32DottedKirkburn can find that out you know
00:37.45Dottedwell if you can see his IP adress
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00:37.58DuTempetewhazzup muthafuckas?!
00:38.42Dottedgrr
00:39.16DuTempeteLol... the add is just this red/white square beating hearts at me =P
00:39.33DuTempeteAnd it doesn't link anywhere =P
00:40.52Boubouillehey Dotted
00:40.58Boubouillenewsbot is slacking again with my site !
00:41.02Boubouille(well, my RSS feed is fubar)
00:41.10BoubouilleI'll do it then.
00:41.20Dottedlern2code
00:41.21BoubouilleZOMG DEATH KNIGHT @ LVL 55 AND NEW COT INSTANCE @ STRATHOLME WITH ARTHAS : http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=736.0
00:41.32Boubouille(Free midget porn included)
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00:44.32BraveFootAlright, I have a tough question. The blood elves regained the holy light from a naaru in Burning Crusade, but how'd they loose it in the first place?
00:44.41[NewsBot]MMO Champion: Buffed.de interview with Jeff Kaplan - http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=736.0
00:44.56DuTempeteregained it?  I didn't know they lost it BraveFoot.
00:45.16DuTempetebut I don't know a lot about lore
00:45.31DuTempeteIf that were true, my hypothesis would be that the light rejected them because of their greed for magic
00:46.15BraveFootI'm trying to find where it said that?
00:47.46BraveFootAlright, I found where it said it, and it basically only said that the Blood Elves felt the light "failed" them in their hour of need, leaving everyone to theory.
00:47.49BraveFootThanks
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00:54.07DottedKirkburn slacker
00:55.22KirkburnDotted, no u
00:55.48Dottedcan you see the ip of ohnoes?
00:57.15pcjyarly
01:00.04Dottedsigh
01:00.06DottedKirkburn
01:01.06Kirkburnno, I can't
01:01.38Dottedshame
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01:08.04DuTempeteOk, Mekkapiano has an issue with this being on the external link list in [[Warlocks]]: http://www.wowinsider.com/category/blood-pact/
01:08.22DuTempeteIt's a weekly column about Warlocks.  I don't see how it should be discluded.
01:08.47DuTempeteAny opinions before I decide to revert it?
01:11.21KirkburnI see no problem with the link
01:11.33KirkburnWhat's his problem?
01:13.07DuTempeteHe thinks it's an advert for the site.
01:13.18DuTempetecomplained on the talk page about there being blogs there as well.
01:14.06pcjtell him no
01:17.10DuTempeteI reverted it, but I will go through the links to check 'em out if it make shim happy.
01:17.28DuTempeteIf he still complains, then I'll tell him to stuff it. =P
01:17.44pcjyou'd probably enjoy that
01:17.46DuTempeteNicely, of course, and he's always welcome to drag more people into the conversation. =P
01:17.52DuTempeteDuh.
01:21.40JiyambiIs what I did to the Teldrassil zone category good or bad? http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:Zone:Teldrassil
01:22.57DuTempeteThere, I think that looks rather polite, pcj: http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Warlock#Need_to_get_rid_of_the_blog_link
01:23.41pcjYeah
01:24.32Jiyambi<PROTECTED>
01:24.41DuTempetehehe
01:24.55DuTempeteSee?  I can be nice!
01:25.22JiyambiDuTempete, would you mind checking out that Zone cat real quick and letting me know if it looks okay
01:25.24Jiyambi?
01:25.40DuTempeteon it
01:25.55JiyambiI created subcats for mobs and npcs, and also made the quests cat a subcat for the zone
01:25.56Jiyambir
01:26.07DuTempeteI don't see any edits by you
01:26.20Jiyambierm sorry. If it looks good, I will do it for the other zone cats. And of course there are no edits by me :P its a cat
01:26.31JiyambiThe edits are on the pages which put them in that cat
01:26.54DuTempeteHrmm...
01:26.58JiyambiBasically does the organization look okay is what I am asking
01:27.11DuTempeteYeah, I think that's appropriate.
01:27.26Jiyambiokay :) sorry for communication difficulties >_<
01:27.32DuTempeteI know some of the other zone cats are like that.  You may want to take a look around, to see if there's anything you can conform to.
01:27.50JiyambiI matched the mob subcat to ones Mikaka has been doing
01:28.04DuTempeteOnly thing I question is the "mobs" sub-cat... basically whether it should be in NPCs, or be named a little differently.
01:28.21JiyambiHmm like a subcat of NPC?
01:28.23DuTempeteWell if that's how most of them are, then stick with it.
01:28.38DuTempeteI don't think it's a bad idea, personally.
01:28.41JiyambiWell none of the others have the NPC subcat, but I thought it would be useful so I added it
01:28.45DuTempeteIt's just a little strict on the jargon.
01:28.54DuTempeteYeah, it definitely would be.
01:29.04JiyambiAha, mob < NPC?
01:29.21Jiyambior rather, mob is a type of NPC?
01:29.21DuTempetenah, leave 'em separate, I think...
01:29.29DuTempetethey aren't really the same
01:29.30Jiyambiokay, I think they are better separate as well
01:29.51Jiyambiwhether or not one is a type of the other, for users browsing the cats this will be less confusing
01:30.14DuTempeteTechnically speaking, they're all "Non-player Characters"
01:30.23JiyambiOkies thanks again DuTempete. I will do the same to other zones when the mood hits me.
01:30.46DuTempetebut "characters" infers they have a role to play in the plot.
01:31.00DuTempetelike quest givers and vendors
01:31.31Jiyambiagreed, as far as the typical WoW player goes i think they see killable monsters and such as mobs, wuest givers etc. as NPCs
01:31.38DuTempete*nod*
01:31.41Jiyambiquest*
01:31.48Sky2042wait, what are we deciding?
01:31.51DuTempeteAnd if they don't know the term "mob" they can always go to the glossary
01:32.00JiyambiSky, see http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:Zone:Teldrassil
01:32.11DuTempeteShe's wondering about the sub-cats
01:32.13JiyambiWe were talking about the organization of the sub-cats
01:33.02DuTempetelol zurr
01:33.12DuTempeteoh, he's not on here =P
01:33.25Sky2042i've actually pondered it myself, and there's really two choices. one, leave mobs where it is, or two, include it as a sub cat of teldrassil npcs as well as zone:teldrassil
01:33.27Sky2042:]
01:33.29DuTempetehe just separated the external links from the see also links on the warlock page, hehe
01:33.40DuTempeteYeah, it's a conundrum.
01:33.45DuTempeteBut I'm satisfied with it the way it is.
01:33.45JiyambiAh, a subcat of both would be okay with me
01:33.53Jiyambiyeah either way is fine with me
01:33.56Sky2042same
01:34.03DuTempeteno, don't double it up in the same parent category
01:34.05Jiyambias long as it is a direct subcat in the zone as well
01:34.07Sky2042i think i'd prefer to leave as is
01:34.09DuTempetethat's redundant
01:34.15Sky2042yes dutempete, it is
01:34.16Jiyambiokay sounds good, leave as is
01:36.00Kirkburnrawr at people copying guides without permission
01:36.19KirkburnI just wasted half an hour stripping info from articles
01:36.35Jiyambiooo ouch
01:36.55JiyambiHey which name is preferable: http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:Call_of_Earth_%28Azuremyst_Isle%29 or http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:Call_of_Earth_%28Alliance%29_%281%29
01:37.39JiyambiI know the (1) on the second one should go away, but should it be (Azuremyst Isle) or (Alliance)?
01:37.50KirkburnThe one without the $#^$%^$#^%#SDH%$#@$%@#%@$ :P
01:38.18Jiyambi>_< okay Kirkburn: "Call of Earth (Alliance)" or "Call of Earth (Azuremyst Isle)"
01:38.49JiyambiAnd once that is decided, should the 2nd one be "Call of Earth (Alliance, 2)" or "Call of Earth (Alliance) (2)"?
01:39.31JiyambiI've seen all sorts of different versions of this around, thought I'd get it straightened out
01:39.35pcjI'm a big fan of "Call of Earth (Azuremyst Isle) (Alliance) (2) (II)"
01:42.55Jiyambilol pcj
01:43.33Kirkburnbe back shortly, time for home train
01:45.47Sky2042jiyambi: Call of Earth (Alliance 2)
01:45.58DuTempeteJiyambi, what's the difference between that quest, and the other version?
01:46.18DuTempeteIf it's the same faction, but different zone, use the zone in the disambig
01:46.25DuTempeteif it's a different faction, use the faction
01:46.39DuTempetesecond one gets (<>, 2)
01:46.55DuTempetedon't forget the comma and space ;)
01:47.10Sky2042no dutempete, that's a laurlybot thing
01:47.13DuTempeteYeah, I dropped Laurly a note that she may want to halt doing disambigs
01:47.14Sky2042no need for the comma :|
01:47.21DuTempetewe've always used commas, Sky2042
01:47.29Sky2042trust me; no we haven't
01:47.38DuTempetewell, the same warlock pages that have been up for ages do
01:48.34[NewsBot]WoW Insider: Tigole speaks in Leipzig - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/22/tigole-speaks-in-leipzig/
01:49.36DuTempetesadly, there doesn't seem to be any specified policy about it, though, Sky :(
01:49.50DuTempeteBut in all the articles I've worked with, there has been a comma
01:50.43Sky2042no, no policy
01:54.31Sky2042hey dutempete, when you sd something, you should havea look at the what links here page
01:54.37Sky2042http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Whatlinkshere/Quest:Tome_of_the_Cabal_%28Alliance%29_%281%29
01:54.41DuTempeteI always do
01:54.42Sky2042have fun cleaning
01:54.44Sky2042:)
01:54.47DuTempeteI already hae Sky
01:54.54DuTempetethose are all pages that are marked for sd, too =P
01:55.02Sky2042ORLY>!
01:55.06Sky2042http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:The_Binding_%28Neutral%29
01:55.12DuTempeteHey Sky2042, you should really look at what you're complaining about before you complain about them!
01:55.19DuTempeteI'm nto there yet, bite me.
01:55.22Sky2042lol
01:55.25DuTempeteBut I'll get to that one.
01:55.44DuTempeteexcept for my sandbox, of course.
01:55.46Sky2042the hell
01:55.50DuTempeteBut when I'm done that will get cleared =P
01:56.10Sky2042dutempete: http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:Tome_of_the_Cabal_%28Alliance%2C_2%29 ... and http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:Tome_of_the_Cabal_%28Alliance%2C2%29
01:56.17Sky2042one has a space, one doesn't
01:56.20Sky2042:|
01:56.21DuTempeteI know
01:56.22DuTempetelol
01:56.31DuTempetethe one w/o the space was redirecting to the one with the space
01:56.44DuTempetebut I'm putting the content *right now* into the one w/o the space
01:56.57DuTempetebecause it conforms to the way the other two articles are disambiguated.
01:57.12DuTempeteyou disrupted me while I was tagged the other for sd
01:57.42Sky2042huh? there should be a space between the two...
01:57.49Sky2042that's jsut common sense
01:58.04DuTempeteYeah, well it's too late
01:58.18Sky2042not really
01:58.26DuTempeteand there's no sense in creating a new page for those other two because it has almost nothing to do with user intuition
01:58.45Sky2042just move the other ones then, silly
01:58.49Sky2042:P
01:59.00DuTempeteNo, I'm not creating new pages, and more work for the admins to do w/ sds
01:59.12DuTempeteThere's enough shit laurlybot created for them, already =P
01:59.15Sky2042then i'll move them
01:59.19Sky2042not hard
01:59.23DuTempeteit's not worth it...
01:59.30DuTempetedon't be so anal
01:59.40Sky2042you betcha i'm gonna be anal
02:00.05Sky2042not personal. wowwiki needs to set a standard :|
02:00.06Adys|sleepsomeone tells kirk that if he's not banning crash for being a retard ill do that myself
02:00.15Sky2042he just got off
02:00.24Adys|sleepwhen he comes back
02:00.27Sky2042mk
02:00.54DuTempetejebus, fine, whatever, but don't do it yet
02:01.04DuTempeteI'm in the middle of sorting shit out, and you're just going to fuck me up
02:01.08DuTempeteI'll tell you when it's ok
02:01.11Sky2042aw fuck
02:01.47DuTempetewhat the hell did you do?
02:02.03Sky2042copy and pasted over the other
02:02.12Sky2042then copy and pasted
02:02.19Sky2042then redirected*
02:02.29DuTempetedon't fucking redirect it...
02:02.34DuTempetethat's the sissy's way out
02:02.45DuTempeteyou're just creating more work for the server, that way
02:02.59DuTempeteIf you're not going to take the work to change links, then don't do it at all
02:03.11Sky2042no, actually, it's just as much work for the server for you to change all the links as to redirect it
02:03.21DuTempeteI'm talking about a regular basis
02:03.24DuTempetenot just tonight
02:03.30Sky2042and i usually do
02:03.35DuTempetetakes up more space, too
02:03.49Sky2042but when there's 10 links, then i'm not gonna' be the one to sort it out
02:03.51Sky204210+
02:04.02Sky2042if there's between 1 and 5, then i have a go at it
02:04.47DuTempeteomg, you're the one who wanted to change it
02:04.50DuTempetegeez
02:04.54DuTempetelazy
02:04.59Sky2042lol
02:05.07DuTempeteI'm the one doing all the hard work...
02:05.17DuTempeteno, seriously, you're pissing me off. =P
02:05.28Sky2042then take a break from the wiki for some time
02:05.29DuTempeteThis is 3 days of work, here.
02:05.35Sky2042lol?
02:05.43DuTempeteDid you look at my list?
02:05.51DuTempete[[User:DuTempete/sandbox3]]
02:05.52[NewsBot]DuTempete meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/User:DuTempete/sandbox3
02:05.58Sky2042yeah, i saw it
02:06.07DuTempeteTook me a day and a half just to figger out wtf happened, and what was all in it.
02:06.22Sky2042jiyambi: asking a questing? :P
02:06.42Jiyambiwhat? I was asking a quest :P
02:06.46Jiyambierm question
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02:06.54JiyambiMy mind is in WoW apparently....
02:08.06DuTempeteAnd this is the second time you've gotten in the middle of my shit while I was working on it, Sky...
02:08.15DuTempetewhat question Jiyambi?
02:08.45JiyambiWow. I only just now reallized that Sky was pointing out my original question --> questing :P
02:08.55DuTempetelol
02:09.01DuTempeteabout the disambigs?
02:09.11JiyambiMy question was about the darktable style class
02:09.16Sky2042http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=WoWWiki_talk:Styling&curid=43270&diff=837640&oldid=809440&rcid=754866
02:09.20Sky2042see edit summary
02:09.39Jiyambihttp://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Styling#Darktable
02:09.57Sky2042dutempete: second time?
02:10.13DuTempeteYeah, the first time was on one of my user pages.
02:10.30DuTempeteAnd I yelled at you about that, too.
02:10.44Sky2042ah, that
02:10.47DuTempeteJiyambi, there should be two classes, darktable, and another.  You just alternate them.
02:11.05Jiyambioh, okay. Have any idea what the other would be?
02:11.15DuTempeteuh... sec, I can find out
02:11.19Jiyambisweet!
02:11.43Sky2042there isn't one, btw. not that i know of
02:11.54Jiyambi>_<
02:12.30JiyambiThe way I am doing the quest tables, they won't be readable on other skins
02:12.54[NewsBot]BlizzPlanet: GC2007 IGN - Wow: Wrath of the Lich King - http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=1642
02:13.14Jiyambibut just leaving them as darktable makes them hard to read on the default skin, which imo is more important for now
02:13.27Sky2042oh, the background
02:13.29Sky2042hmmm
02:13.54DuTempeteok, Jiyambi, found what I was looking for
02:13.58DuTempeteIt's not a separate class
02:14.02Jiyambiah
02:14.03Sky2042they look fine without it..
02:14.14DuTempetejust alternate darktable with: style="background-color: #303030;"
02:14.27Sky2042that's what he's been doing
02:14.29Jiyambi>_< DuTempete that's what I've been doing
02:14.35Jiyambishe
02:14.38DuTempetethen it should look fine
02:14.48Sky2042but i don't really think she needs to be doing that. they look fine without the background too
02:15.00Sky2042http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Teldrassil_quests&diff=837648&oldid=836548
02:15.07DuTempeteI'm sure it will blur together with large tables
02:15.07Sky2042have a look at the section
02:15.32DuTempeteWell that's not too bad.
02:15.36JiyambiHmmm well I guess I prefer the other but you are right, there isn't really a readability issue
02:15.44Jiyambiokay, I will remove the bgcolors
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02:16.07Jiyambisomeday. Cause I am so not doing that all at once. = big chore
02:16.25DuTempetelol
02:16.30Sky2042and jiyambi, section headers should be like sentences: only the first word and proper nouns should be cappsed :)
02:16.31DuTempeteput it on your to-do list ;)
02:16.58DuTempetehehe I'm not saying anything =P
02:17.02JiyambiAh, yeah Sky I have been remembering that with most things. But not some things.
02:17.22Sky2042oh good. just makin sure :)
02:17.39Sky2042damnit, i wish there were more editors on the wiki..
02:17.55JiyambiThere are, they just dont do in depth stuffs like us
02:18.02Sky2042that's what i ment.
02:18.09JiyambiI have an unhealthy addiction to the Wiki
02:18.19JiyambiI am supposed to be studying right now >_<
02:18.23Sky2042those are really just "users" making the occasional edit to fix spelling, or ask a question, or update a server page
02:18.28Sky2042yeah, i know jiyambi
02:18.29Sky2042>_<
02:18.35Zurrat least it isn't an unhealthy addiction to roleplaying
02:18.37DuTempeteI'm going afk for a bit to watch Eureka
02:18.49Sky2042lol zurr, that was mean
02:19.00Jiyambihehe
02:19.04DuTempetelol I know what you mean, Jiyambi... I had the same problem last spring
02:19.07DuTempeteI still do =P
02:19.20DuTempeteBut I have a 4 day weekend, atm, so I have some time to do homework
02:19.26JiyambiBut I really *should* get to studying now. Byebye for now peoples.
02:19.38Zurri never studied a day in my life
02:20.00Jiyambiwell this is an online class, so really I am just putting in the time reading I would have spent in class
02:20.06Zurrdon't ask me how but i got on the honor roll once in high school
02:20.19Sky2042woohoo!
02:20.29DuTempetebye jiyambi
02:20.44Jiyambihey how do I change my nick? *IRC n00b*
02:20.45DuTempeteI'm desperately trying to get some of my bigger projects done before the real scholwork starts :(
02:20.55DuTempeteit's /nick <newnick>
02:20.57Sky2042jiyambi, /nick <name>
02:21.21Jiyambi_afkkk bye for now
02:27.06Sky2042mmm...
02:27.23Skosirislol
02:28.54Sky2042i feel like overhauling my user page...
02:30.10Sky2042Skosiris is just trying to get higher than me at wwstats
02:30.15Sky2042on the actions :P
02:31.29Sky2042hmmm
02:31.35Sky2042we need a new class for the css
02:38.34[NewsBot]WoW Insider: Shamanistic suggestions - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/22/shamanistic-suggestions/
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02:48.36Sky2042mm, kirkburn, adys said to tell you that "if he's not banning crash for being a retard ill do that myself". just so you know.
02:49.41Kirkburno_O
02:50.50Sky2042so, be forewarned
02:51.23KirkburnThey're both ... hotheaded people
02:51.49Sky2042you don't say?
02:54.10Sky2042btw, kirkburn, we have another lady here
02:54.16Sky2042jiyambi's a she!
02:56.32Jiyambi_afkyes Sky.
02:56.45Sky2042lol
02:56.54Jiyambi_afkI thought DuTempete and I established this a few days ago >_<
02:57.24Sky2042not when i was on
02:57.28Sky2042~jiyambi
02:57.34Sky2042hack
02:58.03Jiyambi_afkanyways... back to studying
02:58.06Sky2042infobot, jiyambi is of the female persuasion, even though there aren't any such beings on the internetz.
02:58.07infobotokay, Sky2042
02:58.57Kirkburnlol
02:59.07KirkburnYes, I had worked it out
02:59.34KirkburnSoon you'll start shouting that "omg Cai.renn is a gurl!"
02:59.48Sky2042orly?
02:59.51Sky2042:P
03:00.07Kirkburnyou're silly
03:00.12Sky2042i know
03:00.15Sky2042it keeps me sane.
03:00.36Sky2042and consequently, drives others /in/sane. irony, that.
03:01.57KirkburnJiyambi_afk, "divider between rows and columns", I see gaps fine on Firefox
03:02.04KirkburnWhat browser/OS?
03:04.01Sky2042http://www.myspace.com/illidanthebetrayer
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03:10.21DuTempeteHuzzah!  Good show!
03:14.51DuTempeteGeez, anybody there?
03:19.44bleeterdoes anyone know what event triggers the spawn of the mobs that drop this quest item? http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:Assassin%27s_Contract ? thot's vague on it, as is alla, and wowhead's down for maint
03:24.12Sky2042lol
03:24.15Sky2042tusva, why?
03:24.32Sky2042just wait until it's back up, bleeter?
03:26.43bleeterSky2042: did that, no useful info there either... people guessing it's a turnin, or a timer. no one seems certain :/
03:26.52Sky2042ugh
03:30.55Zurrfrom what i have heard it is random time of day.
03:31.08Zurror night
03:44.00bleeter:/ was fearing that
03:44.16bleeterthx for the reply Zurr :)
03:54.30DuTempeteevery time I type {{sd}} into an article, I have to force myself not to say "speedy delivery"" to myself...
03:54.57pcjthen type {{speedydelete}} instead
03:55.32Kaydeethreebut that's too many characters! {{sd}} is the perfect length for a template
04:00.38Boubouillesomeone send me a joost beta invite
04:00.39Boubouillenow.
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04:04.48Kirkburn|afkIn game TF2 footage - http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/8638/soilderspyownageqv6.jpg
04:06.16Boubouillemegaold
04:06.34Boubouilleand it's not in game mister Kirkburn|afk
04:06.42BoubouilleIt's from http://www.gametrailers.com/player/23861.html mister Kirkburn|afk
04:06.52BoubouilleI think you fail, mister Kirkburn|afk
04:07.17Kirkburn|afk>_>
04:07.25Kirkburn|afkIt's in-game
04:07.38Kirkburn|afkSometimes trailers are just that good
04:08.18Kirkburn|afkAlso, you are french.
04:10.00Boubouilleand you're a tea sucker
04:10.08DuTempeteStop being mean to tea :(
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04:18.57pcj /pat
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04:29.55lo82Does anyone have a good tutorial on making a simple WOW UI post patch 2.0 ?  I am using http://fara.webeddie.com/frames/ But it seems to be incompatiable now.
04:32.56lo82any thoughts?
04:33.24Kirkburn|afkMaking, in what sense?
04:33.29Kirkburn|afkFrom scratch, or by using addons?
04:33.53lo82addons
04:33.58Kirkburn|afkCause the wiki is full of documentation for the former, but most people do the latter :P
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04:34.24Kirkburn|afkWell, to find addons, visit sites like wowinterface, curse, worldofwar, wowace
04:34.48lo82Does the wiki have a step-by-step process for making GUI window addons that is compatiable with the newest patch?
04:35.11Kirkburn|afkThey should be up to date, yes
04:35.16lo82I have this page: http://www.wowwiki.com/XML_User_Interface
04:35.51Kirkburn|afkBtw, for addon specific UI questions, I'd visit #wowi-lounge
04:36.20lo82ok! thnx
04:36.31Kirkburn|afkIt's where most of the cool coders hang out :)
04:36.45lo82hehe :)
04:37.03lo82thanks for your help!
04:37.12Kirkburn|afkNo problemo!
04:41.32SkosirisKirkburn|afk: thanks for letting me know about the wonderful thing that the orange box will be
04:43.51Sky2042kirkburn|afk: put into guild: or server:? http://www.wowwiki.com/Government_of_Stormwind
04:44.53DuTempeteWoot!  I think I just finished the pet quest chains!
04:45.09DuTempeteYou can fuck with the titles, now, Sky.  Just please don't do any redirects.
04:45.22Sky2042woo?
04:46.06DuTempetelol with what, Sko?
04:46.28Skosirishttp://www.wowhead.com/?npc=22227 +  http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=19050
04:46.35Skosiriswhat is the correct location for each?
04:46.50Jiyambi_afkSky2042
04:46.55Sky2042mm?
04:47.04Jiyambi_afkI made a few changes to http://www.wowwiki.com/Teldrassil
04:47.13Jiyambi_afkIs it now a shining example of a zone page?
04:47.24Sky2042of course not!
04:47.26Sky2042:P
04:47.32Jiyambi_afk>_<
04:47.55Jiyambi_afkI just want one page I know is right so I can apply the same stuff to other zone pages when I work on them
04:48.04DuTempetelol no fucking clue, Skosiris, I've dealth with neither of those.
04:48.09Sky2042if it's possible, could you merge the note tips and add. info somewhere into the text?
04:48.10Sky2042:)
04:48.34Jiyambi_afkI can do so
04:48.41Jiyambi_afkother then that, does it look okay?
04:49.02Sky2042oh yes, be wary with using {{column}}
04:49.21Jiyambi_afkI was copying your edit to the Thousand Needles page with that
04:49.28Jiyambi_afkbut if its no good I will make it go away
04:49.48DuTempeteIf I log in right now, Sko, I'm going to get bombarded with shit people wnt me to do :(
04:49.57Sky2042see what i mean? that last edit just threw it all to pieces.
04:49.58DuTempeteI just fended one of them off in IM by telling him I was going to bed. =P
04:50.18Jiyambi_afkhttp://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Thousand_Needles&diff=827945&oldid=827943
04:51.08DuTempeteOk, Skosiris, markus is in the inn
04:51.11Sky2042yeah, i'm thinking about using a template to do that, rather than just a normal table
04:51.15DuTempeteright behind the doorway
04:51.18Sky2042about not using*
04:51.27Jiyambi_afkShould i put it back to the normal way for now?
04:51.34DuTempeteSo that would probably be the lower left loc, Sko
04:51.48Sky2042yeah, i think so, jiyambi_afk
04:51.55DuTempeteLook closer at your screenies =P
04:52.05Jiyambi_afkkk let me know if you come up with something clever for it though
04:52.08Sky2042i'd say, just use {{column}} for content, rather than sections
04:52.14Jiyambi_afkkk
04:52.19Sky2042really long lists, in other words.
04:52.20Sky2042hmm
04:52.39Jiyambi_afkSo merge notes into main article, make columns go away. Any other thoughts?
04:52.43Sky2042http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Teldrassil&diff=837770&oldid=837767 this edit completely threw off the alignment, which is why i'm now crying reservations
04:52.48DuTempeteAnd, Skosiris, that second one has a pic inside a building, and neither of those locs are inside a building.
04:52.51Sky2042i'll have another look here in a sec
04:53.10Sky2042oh yeah..
04:53.10Sky2042(you aren't going to like me)
04:54.01Jiyambi_afkwell?
04:54.12Sky2042the templates at the bottom...
04:55.42Sky2042eh
04:55.45Sky2042hmm
04:56.04Sky2042i'm tempted to tell you to do that, but that might just give you a headache
04:56.24Jiyambi_afkhehe just tell me what it is >_<
04:56.27Sky2042lol
04:57.52Sky2042oh, that's what i was going to do
04:57.55Sky2042heh
04:58.02Sky2042uh, not quite jiyambi_afk
04:58.16Sky2042no skosiris
04:58.19Sky2042go away
04:58.22Sky2042bad bad game
04:58.28Jiyambihow come sometimes your name changes color?
04:59.05Sky2042ok, jiyambi, did we decide to keep "List of x NPCs" or to use "x NPCs"
04:59.09Sky2042the latter, correct?
04:59.25DuTempetelol that's fun, Skosiris :)
05:00.01Jiyambiit is fun :)
05:00.12DuTempetehaven't played it in ages, though
05:00.15Jiyambiand I think we decided on X NPCS, I just havent got around to changin it yet
05:02.27Sky2042i'm gonna bust out another template here in a sec
05:02.54Jiyambiomg why did you show me that Skosiris >_<
05:02.59Skosiris:D
05:03.52Sky2042he's got some insane score, and he's looking for ppl to beat him
05:05.27Jiyambihehe
05:05.51DuTempetelol
05:06.06Kirkburn|afkSky2042, waitasec
05:06.13Kirkburn|afkYou're changing seealso to AlsoSee
05:06.15Sky2042mmm kirkburn|afk?
05:06.19Kirkburn|afkThat's the wrong way round!
05:06.21Sky2042yeah, cause i'm going to use seealso
05:06.23Sky2042:)
05:06.28Kirkburn|afkhuh??
05:06.46Sky2042it's used in too many places for aesthetic appeal
05:06.54Sky2042so, i'm going to cheat
05:07.50Kirkburn|afkOne assume the latter half of this explanation is coming?
05:08.07Sky2042ah, screw it, i can't find it
05:08.26JiyambiSky doesnt like explaining >_< I still don't know what he was getting at earlier when he told me I wasn't going to like what he said :P
05:08.32Sky2042now all but one of the references to {{seealso}} have been removed (I can't find the last)
05:08.41Sky2042so then we change it to the way {{main}} is
05:09.08Sky2042and then we can use it inline prettyily.
05:09.08Jiyambithat would be good
05:09.19Sky2042unlike AlsoSee
05:10.04Sky2042i considered that the usage of AlsoSee shouldn't be how it is used, but that I can't do so much about it, considering how many times it -is- used.
05:10.11Kirkburn|afkomg, remove the icon?
05:10.16Sky2042no :P
05:10.21Bagginswwsuch a long day :p
05:10.30Kirkburn|afkIt's a bit of a pointless template anyway
05:10.54Kirkburn|afk(Seeing also most see also's are deserving of their own section)
05:10.56Sky2042it should be replaced (in most cases) by a section titled == See also == at the end.
05:11.06Kirkburn|afkgreat minds ...
05:11.14Jiyambihehe
05:11.47Sky2042lol
05:12.04Sky2042&nbsp; is the html for space, isn't it?
05:12.16Sky2042ugh no
05:12.18Sky2042um
05:12.25ThraeSky2042: Yes.
05:12.30Sky2042sweet
05:12.42Kirkburn|afkheh
05:12.48Kirkburn|afkno-break space
05:12.53Kirkburn|afkThat's how I remember it
05:12.57Kirkburn|afk(oddly enough)
05:13.03ThraeIt stands for "Non-Breaking Space", where it doesn't break into a new paragraph / div.
05:13.34Kirkburn|afkAlso, people who attempt to double space sentences should be shot
05:13.42Sky2042i just memorized it :)
05:13.43Kirkburn|afkI'm so glad HTML doesn't let you do that
05:13.53Sky2042kirkburn|afk: lol! it's how some people learned how to type
05:14.01ThraeKirkburn|afk: <BR><BR>?
05:14.01Sky2042my mother insists that i should, but i never do.
05:14.02Kirkburn|afkYes, but I've seen YOUNG people do it ><
05:14.06Sky2042o_0
05:14.10Sky2042thrae: no
05:14.13Sky2042"  "
05:14.22Kirkburn|afkNo, doing stuf like this.  Meh.  JHgsj.  KJhsfkjhd.
05:14.26Jiyambiyou mean two spaces after a period? or between everything?
05:14.27Sky2042lorem.  something and is a new sentence
05:14.31Sky2042the former
05:14.35Jiyambiaha
05:14.39Kirkburn|afkTypewriters, fine
05:14.42ThraeSky2042: Use &nbsp; lightly, and don't use it for formatting purposes to make things line up. That's what tables and css are for.
05:14.45Kirkburn|afkIn Word, hell no.
05:14.49Jiyambiyeah i never learned that way, when someone told my about it I was like wha?
05:15.04Kirkburn|afkIt's a relic of a bygone age :)
05:15.12ThraeKirkburn|afk: Odd. My Mother is a writer and a grammar nazi, and she's never told me to do that.
05:15.20Kirkburn|afkThrae, she likely knows better
05:15.28Jiyambihehe
05:16.04ThraeI vaaaaguely remember learning that in school, however. But I think it was more as a "And here's an old style".
05:16.20ThraeThey didn't require we use it, just that we know it.
05:16.23Kirkburn|afkOld things are silly.
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05:16.44Kirkburn|afkSo, trivia - why "qwerty"?
05:17.04ThraeKirkburn|afk: Much of the English language has been imported from various other languages, especially French. Maybe we should just discard all our "old English rules" and merge with French ;)
05:17.04Jiyambiyou mean why is the keyboard called that or why that specific arrangement of letters?
05:17.25Kirkburn|afkThrae, lol
05:17.27Sky2042jiyambi: use http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Seealso when you need to. it supports up to 5 articles
05:17.37Sky2042:)
05:17.39Kirkburn|afkOr esperanto, or one of the many made-up languages
05:17.54ThraeI believe QWERTY was something someone decided would be optimal for use with typewriters, which then led to its use on keyboards.
05:17.59DuTempeteomg we were just talking about esperanto in class today =P
05:18.24Sky2042hmm
05:18.26JiyambiSky2042: So, should I use that for "X quests" and "X questing guide" in the quests section?
05:18.29Sky2042lol
05:18.41Sky2042you can either use main or seealso
05:18.52Kirkburn|afkMain, I suggest
05:18.55JiyambiK cause i like the main being for the quest list
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05:19.06Jiyambishould i use main for both, or main for list and seealso for guide?
05:19.15Kirkburn|afk( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QWERTY )
05:19.38Sky2042you can either use both, or you can use seealso jiyambi
05:19.42ThraeI remember back when I was young, all the typing classes available to me were typewriter classes...full of adults. And I was 8. So I had to teach myself. Heh. When I was 11 or 12 I took a keyboard class, and faked through the HOME-KEY method (look at your QWERTY keyboard, you'll see the notches), and then never used the style again.
05:19.44Sky2042i'd suggest both
05:19.46Kirkburn|afkMain list, paragraph, seealso guide; is what sounds good to me
05:19.55Sky2042which is how it was :P
05:20.01Sky2042i just wanted a nice template to go with it
05:20.06Kirkburn|afkYeah well, your face
05:20.28Kirkburn|afkThrae, home-key method?
05:20.43Jiyambik Kirkburn and Sky, I will do that from now on
05:20.54JiyambiLet me fix up the Teldrassil page and have you look over it one more time
05:21.37Sky2042just merge the text i asked you to
05:21.41Sky2042i fixed everything else
05:21.44ThraeTouch Typing is where you know where all the keys are instinctively. It varies from person to person. I mainly use two fingers when typing, especially since my pinkies have what's called "trigger finger", a notch on the tendons which make them "shoot" forward after a certain degree of movement, so the "Home Key" method couldn't work for me anyway.
05:21.47Jiyambifine smarty pants :P
05:21.50Sky2042:)
05:22.07ThraeKirkburn|afk: It's what we call it here in the US for QWERTY keyboards. Do you have DVORAK or QWERTY?
05:22.17Kirkburn|afkQWERTY, natch
05:22.35Kirkburn|afkUK keyboards have a slightly different layout though
05:22.44Kirkburn|afkSome symbols are moved
05:22.47Sky2042european keyboards are just strange
05:22.55Kirkburn|afkK, not like that though
05:22.59Sky2042;)
05:23.01Kirkburn|afkWe keep the letters in the same place!
05:23.08Sky2042so did the swedes
05:23.14Sky2042but they added 3, and moved the rest around
05:23.20Sky20423 letters*
05:23.34Kirkburn|afkSilly Swedes
05:23.56Kirkburn|afkI have YAT! :D
05:24.02Kirkburn|afkYet Another Tshirt
05:24.08Jiyambio.O
05:24.20ThraeKirkburn|afk: Look closely at your 'F' and 'J' keys. Many keyboards designate these keys as the "Home Keys" with a tiny dot, notch, etc. For the "Home Key" method, your left and right index fingers hover over 'F' and 'J', respectively, and rarely move. This method, when mastered, can increase typing speed tremendously, but is also the leading cause of carpel tunnel syndrome due to your stationary wrists.
05:24.37Kirkburn|afkI have WoWWiki Blizzcon, Blizzcon official, Alliance, and now a Wikia standard
05:24.55Kirkburn|afkThrae, aha, I vaguely recall that
05:25.02DuTempeteHey, Kirk, speaking of Blizzcon, when are you uplaoding more pics?
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05:25.22ThraeMy wrists and fingers almost never hurt, even after 10+ hours of typing, due to my touch typing method. My hands float all around the keyboard, and my wrists are never in the same position for long.
05:25.25Kirkburn|afkMight see if I can try 2nite
05:25.43Sky2042_kirkburn|afk: what to do with http://www.wowwiki.com/Government_of_Stormwind ? server: or guild: ?
05:25.57ThraeMy Mom once asked for my "secret" because she uses the traditional method (the "Home Key" method, which is also the "official" method), and her wrists can start hurting after a while.
05:26.00DuTempeteI don't like your internet, either, Sky
05:26.07Sky2042_oh good dutempete
05:26.26DuTempetehehe
05:26.44JiyambiSky2042_: I am thinking about just putting that bit about PvP at the end of the introduction. Otherwise it doesn't really fit in any of the existing sections
05:26.48ThraeTouch Typing is basically the mastering of "Hunt and Peck", where you memorize where the keys are. I can't type when the keys are in different places, like with an Ergonomic keyboard (designed for "Home Key" users)
05:26.48DuTempeteI use home keys, but i don't let my wrists sit
05:27.07DuTempetemy wrists don't bother me because of that
05:27.24DuTempetemy left wrist does bother me, though, because I'm using a right-handed mouse.
05:27.38DuTempeteand my chair arms are above the level of the tray
05:27.43JiyambiDuTempete: get a lefty mouse then silly head
05:27.59ThraeDuTempete: Err, sitting is what makes them -not- hurt. It's keeping them at an angle which causes the pain.
05:28.11ThraeHence the "wrist rests" which do help.
05:28.32DuTempetehrm... I never did that, with my wrists on an angle
05:28.42DuTempeteI can't afford to get a new mouse, Jiyambi =P
05:28.56ThraeYour wrists are either sitting on something or they're at an angle, not sitting :D
05:29.00Sky2042_5 dolla? 50g!
05:29.08ThraeSky2042_: Rip-off
05:29.16Sky2042_:)
05:29.21DuTempeteI hold my wrists up in the air =P
05:30.22ThraeOne good thing about touch-typing...and I mean this in a completely honest way, without innuendo -- I can still type effectively with one hand, only about 1/3 as fast as two-handed. "Home Key" users are stuck back to hunt & peck speeds with one hand.
05:30.26DuTempeteI'm just so used to typing, I don't pay attention to where the home keys are anymore.
05:30.39Sky2042_huh thrae
05:31.10DuTempetelol, 25wpm isn't that great, thrae
05:31.20Sky2042_i'd like to think i'm faster than hunt & peck speed with only one hand
05:31.31Sky2042_how fast, Dutempete?
05:31.36ThraeNon-innuendo example: I want to say something, but I can't take my hand off my mouse because I'm the main healer
05:31.51DuTempetepsh
05:31.57ThraeWell, I don't normally type with one hand
05:31.59DuTempeteyou shouldn't be using your mouse.
05:32.13Sky2042_dutempete: how fast do you type. i r ciriuz.
05:32.15ThraeClick-casting pwnz you
05:32.21DuTempete75wpm
05:32.41Sky2042_ah, kool.
05:32.48ThraeAside from speaking, my hands rarely relocate themselves when playing WoW
05:32.49Sky2042_clickcasting ftlllllll
05:32.49DuTempetewhy?
05:32.53Sky2042_jw
05:33.23Kirkburn|afkSky2042, dunno ><
05:33.26JiyambiOkay Sky2042_ (and whoever else cares): I moved those notes etc. into the main article: http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Teldrassil&oldid=837814
05:33.37ThraeUsing my Mouse, I can cast 80% of all the spells I need, with about 30% of them not needing a frame to hover over
05:33.58Sky2042_sweetness jiyambi
05:34.05ThraeAnd I click on the actual action bar buttons about 1% of the time
05:34.05Sky2042_i like it!
05:34.14JiyambiI am not totally happy with the PvP info at the beginning there, but I guess its okay
05:34.24Sky2042_then start a new section
05:34.34Jiyambimaybe I will >_<
05:34.35Sky2042_i just think the section on "Notes and etc" was a little silly :)
05:34.48Jiyambiya especially since most the stuff was already mentioned elsewhere
05:34.54Jiyambiand clearly belonged in a different section
05:35.02Jiyambithe PvP thing was the only one which didnt really have a place
05:35.28JiyambiI dunno maybe its okay where it is
05:35.30Sky2042_jiyambi, if you can, only link a different article once a section
05:35.44Sky2042_its /alright/, but not great
05:35.52Jiyambiyou mean using [[ ]]?
05:36.02Sky2042_yeah
05:36.15JiyambiI have been trying to do that recently but sometimes i goof
05:36.17Sky2042_ie. you have darnassus linked twice in the intro
05:36.32Sky2042_get rid of the second. and its alright; it's not a perfect system
05:36.51JiyambiOkies
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05:37.10JiyambiWhere should I put that PvP stuff then, between which sections do you think?
05:37.25JiyambiAfter History maybe?
05:37.46Sky2042_probably in the characteristics box... maybe
05:38.01Sky2042_that seems duplicated by geography :|
05:38.01Jiyambi*grumble* it is useful info but it doesn't fit anywhere....
05:38.27Jiyambiwait what is duplicated by what?
05:38.41Sky2042_hmm
05:39.09Sky2042_characteristics is slightly duplicated by geography
05:39.29Jiyambiwhat part?
05:39.30Sky2042_not a big issue
05:39.55Sky2042_kingdom?... nvm. i ph4ail
05:40.00Jiyambilol
05:40.27Sky2042_mk, here's an idea. if a zone has more pvp action than is said in the intro as is, then create a new section for it
05:40.43Sky2042_finally!
05:40.51Jiyambihehe
05:41.09JiyambiOkay now that would mean in this case make a PvP section?
05:41.33Sky2042nah. a paragraph isn't a whole lot about a zone
05:41.48Sky20422 or more would probably justify its own section
05:42.02Sky2042such as the towers in EPL, i would say
05:42.12Jiyambiokay. so leave it in into area for Teldrassil
05:42.29Sky2042yes
05:42.55Sky2042oh skiit
05:43.00Sky2042we could have an infobox zone
05:43.23JiyambiThats sorta what the characteristics is yes?
05:43.24Sky2042move the info at "characteristics" into that
05:43.27Jiyambiah
05:43.34Sky2042get rid of some whitespace
05:43.37JiyambiI wouldn't be opposed to that... but I'm not making it >_<
05:43.41Sky2042nps
05:43.54Sky2042i'll take a look at it when i get back from my college trip next week :)
05:44.53Jiyambikk
05:45.07JiyambiSo, is Teldrassil NOW a shining example of a zone page?
05:45.34Sky2042flight paths and boat
05:45.39JiyambiI removed all the links duplicated in a section that I could find...
05:45.47Jiyambihmmm
05:46.05Jiyambiboat destinations?
05:46.46Sky2042i'm tempted to strip that of it's section
05:47.02Jiyambierm in what way?
05:47.59Sky2042oh jebus
05:48.34Jiyambio.O
05:49.13Sky2042i'm glad you're taking on this rather intriguing project, i must say
05:49.14Sky2042:0
05:50.01Jiyambiwhat, cleaning up zone pages?
05:50.47Sky2042yah
05:52.12Sky2042hmm
05:52.57JiyambiHehe I'm probably annoying you with questions though :P
05:53.07Sky2042no
05:53.15Sky2042i thought i was annoying you by being a badger :P
05:54.01Jiyambinopes
05:54.09JiyambiI am having fun actually
05:54.32JiyambiThough I ought to be studying away from the computer :P
05:54.56JiyambiMarketing = boring >_<
05:55.00Sky2042he
05:55.02Sky2042heh
05:55.53DuTempetei think you're a badger, Sky
05:55.59DuTempetedoes that make you feel better?
05:56.49JiyambiOMG SKY
05:57.03DuTempeteOMG
05:57.04JiyambiI found you on Facebook :)
05:57.09DuTempeteROFL
05:57.10DuTempetegimme!
05:57.26Sky2042i'm not even sure if that's funny... or not
05:57.29JiyambiForest Grove OR?
05:57.30DuTempetegimme gimme
05:57.36Sky2042oregon
05:57.40DuTempeteoh shtie, oregon?
05:57.43DuTempeteerr shit
05:57.47Sky2042mmm?
05:57.49DuTempeteI'm moving there one of these days
05:57.52Sky2042:D
05:57.56DuTempetehave some friends in Hermiston
05:57.56Sky2042whereto?
05:57.57JiyambiI = Corvallis
05:58.06DuTempetebut I'd prefer somewhere close to portland
05:58.13DuTempetethe closer the better
05:58.15Sky2042jiyambi, where you goin to school?
05:58.19JiyambiOSU
05:58.23Sky2042thought so'
05:58.29JiyambiI am in Gresham now
05:58.38Jiyambion internship
05:58.46Jiyambicraziness :P
05:58.53Jiyambi*adds Sky as friend*
05:59.00Sky2042dutempete: tigard / lake oswego are nice places to live if you want to be close to portland but not in
05:59.02Sky2042it
05:59.14DuTempetegimmeeeeeee!
05:59.27Sky2042dutempete: see the wowwiki addicts group on facebook
05:59.28Jiyambihehe
06:00.03DuTempetelol wowwiki addicts united or wowwiki addicts? =P
06:00.10Sky2042the latter... why?
06:00.15Jiyambithere is another?
06:00.27Sky2042oh, so you're the crazy one jiyambi? :P :P :P
06:00.44Sky2042oh jesus, how do I say i know you?
06:00.47Sky2042:o
06:01.09Jiyambihehe
06:01.20DuTempeteI seee jooo!
06:02.10Jiyambihehe well I wont say im sad about that
06:02.17Sky2042:P
06:02.24JiyambiBut I have lots of conservative friends too :P
06:02.39DuTempeteoh nm, it's wow addicts, not wowwiki
06:02.54Sky2042heh
06:02.56JiyambiIts my parent's fault I'm a devil child,  they are crazy liberals
06:03.16Sky2042lol
06:03.25DuTempeteomg... somebody from chicago!?
06:03.49Jiyambihehe
06:03.59Jiyambipost ur alias DuTempete
06:04.15DuTempeteI'm in the group
06:04.26DuTempetewho's who in the admins?
06:04.27Jiyambiyeah but I dont know who you are :P
06:04.32DuTempeteI know who Kirk is, but not the others
06:04.37Jiyambigo to the "post your alias" message board thingy
06:04.40DuTempeteit should be very obvious, Jiyambi =P
06:04.52Jiyambioh are all the rest boyses?
06:05.01Sky2042boys?
06:05.03Sky2042most of us
06:05.09Zurr"External Links" are sprouting like cockroaches again!
06:05.15Sky2042blgh
06:05.18Jiyambium nvm you are right it is obvious
06:05.25Sky2042kill em when you see em zurr
06:06.45DuTempetelooks like there are two other chicks
06:07.11DuTempeteI don't like the idea of posting my RL information on sites like that
06:07.11Sky2042cai_renn
06:07.16DuTempeteeven my myspace page is very minimal
06:07.21Sky2042then post as little as you want
06:07.48DuTempeteI only signed up so I could throw sheep at Kirkburn|afk.
06:07.48Sky2042equi_raptor's a chick also, but she just... haunts this place.
06:07.49JiyambiYa not necessary to put it all up there
06:07.58Jiyambihehe
06:08.04Kirkburn|afk:D
06:08.27DuTempetecute pic, isn't it?
06:08.31DuTempeteLove the spoon!
06:08.36Kirkburn|afkhehehe
06:08.43DuTempeteThe brit's kinda cute, too...
06:08.53DuTempeteHe's a little young for me, though.
06:09.18Kirkburn|afkYou are so very silly :P
06:10.27Jiyambiokay, since this has degenerated into a facebook fest, I am going into the other room to study or else be hopelessly distracted while at the same time doing nothing useful
06:10.37DuTempeteYes, I know I'm silly.
06:10.52DuTempeteBut that's what makes me so irresistable!
06:10.56Kirkburn|afkomg, I sees Jiyambi
06:11.04Sky2042jiyambi: i think i'm almost done... i have to have a look
06:11.39DuTempeteOh, maybe I'll create a real profile...
06:11.54DuTempeteBut only if you go add it right away, Kirk.
06:12.08Kirkburn|afk:O
06:12.24Sky2042jiyambi: i'd say teldrassil's done, save for some sort of infobox, but we can sort that out later.
06:12.32Sky2042have fun
06:12.32Sky2042:P
06:12.47Kirkburn|afkomg Jiyambi
06:12.55DuTempeteoh crap, but then Adys will know my real age...
06:13.02Kirkburn|afkYour birthday is one from mine
06:13.03Sky2042apparently DuTempete is 77...
06:13.06Sky2042:P
06:13.31Kirkburn|afkwell duh
06:13.38Kirkburn|afkShe was born on 1 January 1930
06:14.02Sky2042:P
06:14.04DuTempetehehe
06:14.28Jiyambi_AFKhehe this is more fun than it should be
06:14.41DuTempetelol
06:14.46DuTempetego study, Jiyambi!
06:15.23Jiyambi_AFKbut you guys were talking about me! >_<
06:15.35DuTempeterofl, I already had a friend invite waiting for me... an ex-coworker =P
06:16.28Jiyambi_AFKSky: not sure I like the external map links being up under the sub regions like that. I think they looked better under the map, even tho it made it slightly longer
06:16.29Kirkburn|afklol, Angela joined the WoWWiki group
06:16.43Kirkburn|afkShe being co-founder of Wikia :)
06:16.51Jiyambi_AFKoooo
06:17.03Sky2042jiyambi: i didn't like them under the map
06:17.05Sky2042lol
06:17.06Sky2042:P
06:17.10Jiyambi_AFKhehe okay well its no big deal
06:17.15Jiyambi_AFKthey can stay where you put them
06:17.16DuTempeteok, there we go, he can't see my year of birth =P
06:17.17Jiyambi_AFKI go study now
06:17.20DuTempeteshe?!
06:17.21Sky2042lol jiyambi at friend wheels
06:17.28Jiyambi_AFK:)
06:17.29Sky2042great app, i think :P
06:18.00Boubouilleoh
06:18.06Jiyambi|afknow stop talkin to me >_<
06:18.11BoubouilleWOR did something mean again :(
06:18.18Boubouilleme is gonna be sad all day !
06:18.50Sky2042dutempete is an aspriing writer!
06:18.52Sky2042:O
06:18.55Kirkburn|afkBoubouille, ??
06:19.00DuTempeteaspiring?!
06:19.01Boubouillenothing bad Kirk
06:19.08Boubouillehe just stole the translation that one of the guy did in my comments for his site
06:19.08Boubouille:p
06:19.13DuTempeteKirk, are you cheating on me?
06:19.15Sky2042yeah, it's not published yet dutempete :P
06:19.17Boubouille(and of course "forgot" to give credits)
06:19.20DuTempetelol
06:19.21Boubouillebut it happens all the time with WOR
06:19.30DuTempetethat would make me an aspiring *author*
06:19.46Sky2042well, true
06:19.48Sky2042:|
06:19.51Sky2042semantics, imo
06:20.06Kirkburn|afklol, I see a picture of Ragestorm dressed as a wizard
06:20.25Kirkburn|afkAdys still hasn't added a picture to his profile :/
06:21.10DuTempetelol it wont let me add in "theatre" as a concentration in school...
06:21.16DuTempeteor drama
06:22.03Kirkburn|afkomg, now I have seen Varg too
06:22.35Kirkburn|afkAnd Sky
06:22.37Kirkburn|afkThis is such fun
06:23.08Sky2042you haven't looked at that page in a while, have you?
06:23.10Kirkburn|afkTecnoBrat with baby! Awww
06:23.16Kirkburn|afkNo, I haven't ><
06:23.18Sky2042lol
06:24.07Kirkburn|afkomg, real DuTempete!
06:24.18DuTempeteomg!
06:24.43Kirkburn|afkWish I knew who the other people were
06:24.47Kirkburn|afkFacebook, nub
06:24.51Kirkburn|afkOn it?
06:25.01Skosirisfacewut
06:25.18Sky2042facebook, nublet
06:25.33Sky2042it's like myspace, except without the emos and 12 year olds
06:25.35Sky2042:o
06:26.11DuTempetelol
06:26.16DuTempetedont call Skosiris a nublet
06:26.28Sky2042i have express right to do such
06:26.30Sky2042:P
06:27.42Skosirishmm
06:28.08SkosirisI'm on the members list (33 total), but it only shows small pictures and no nicknames
06:28.58DuTempeteHrmm...
06:29.00Sky2042theres a forum listing with names and such..
06:29.05Sky2042forum thread
06:29.09DuTempeteHow do I classify Kirkburn...
06:29.48DuTempeteIt's a toss between "We hooked up" and "I don't know this person."
06:30.16Sky2042you could ignore it?
06:30.29Skosirisoh
06:30.53SkosirisAdys' real name is jérome
06:31.05Kirkburn|afkDuTempete, haha
06:33.00DuTempete!!!!!
06:33.38*** join/#wowwiki WyriHaximus5th (n=WyriHaxi@87.213.120.2)
06:33.47DuTempeteno spanking!
06:33.49Skosirishttp://profile.ak.facebook.com/profile6/801/34/t766014987_1202.jpg
06:34.04DuTempeteand?!
06:34.15Skosiriswhere is the real Du? :(
06:34.29DuTempetedat is the real Du
06:34.36DuTempetewhere's your profile, Sko?
06:36.27DuTempetepsh
06:36.37DuTempetethen don't bitch about my pic
06:36.50Skosirislol
06:38.22Kirkburn|afkDuTempete, ow.
06:38.27DuTempeteshush
06:38.42DuTempeteyou're not supposed to complain about things you like
06:38.50DuTempeteit would deter me from doing it again
06:39.03*** join/#wowwiki Aero1 (i=Aero1@c529cbb57.cable.wanadoo.nl)
06:39.17Aero1anyone online?
06:39.41SkosirisAero1: Boubouille is online
06:39.47Aero1great
06:39.53Aero1I would like some information about the dead scar
06:39.55Aero1in WoW
06:40.09Aero1does anyone know anything about it?
06:40.11Sky2042[[Dead Scar]]
06:40.12[NewsBot]Sky2042 meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Dead_Scar
06:40.22Sky2042see link
06:40.27Sky2042:)
06:40.30Boubouille[[Boobies]]
06:40.30[NewsBot]Boubouille meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Boobies
06:40.33BoubouilleWOOHOO
06:40.34Sky2042oh god
06:40.34BoubouilleIT WORKS
06:40.41Boubouillehey it doesnt
06:40.45Boubouille[[Midget Porn]]
06:40.46[NewsBot]Boubouille meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Midget_Porn
06:40.50BoubouilleI love this bot
06:40.51DuTempetelol
06:40.57Aero1lol
06:41.00Aero1no I ment discuss it
06:41.03DuTempete[[80085]]
06:41.04[NewsBot]DuTempete meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/80085
06:41.10Aero1I know its from the scourge
06:41.20Aero1but why is it a scar?
06:41.22Aero1I mean
06:41.30Aero1did some big ass fireball rage through?
06:41.30Boubouilleif you want to discuss about things that absolutely nobody on earth would care about, talk to Bagginsww
06:41.45Aero1well im gm on blizzard
06:41.48Sky2042did you read the article aero1?
06:41.51Aero1yes
06:41.53Boubouilleyou are ?
06:41.53Boubouille:(
06:42.09Aero1well actually i did
06:42.11Boubouillewith a .nl host ? :(
06:42.15BoubouilleMe doubt it !
06:42.56Aero1would you like proof?
06:43.01Aero1check www.clanprovider.nl
06:44.27Kirkburn|afkAnyhoo, Arthas and his army created it
06:44.34Kirkburn|afkI assume the article said as much :P
06:44.38Aero1THANK YOU
06:44.43Aero1yes arthas and some other dude
06:44.47Aero1orc dude
06:44.51Aero1whats his name again?
06:45.21BoubouilleAero1 : how does it proof anything ? :/
06:45.23Aero1they merged and formed the lich king
06:45.39Aero1Im online at this instant on a wow server
06:45.47Aero1check the stats
06:45.55Aero1http://www.clanprovider.nl/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=26
06:46.11Boubouille[08:40:00] <Aero1> well im gm on blizzard
06:46.17BoubouilleI don't really think this server is affiliated with Blizzard
06:46.24BoubouilleI don't know why, just a feeling
06:46.30*** join/#wowwiki Kaos (n=Kaos@vir78-1-82-230-45-137.fbx.proxad.net)
06:46.45Aero1well you didnt trust the .nl host thing
06:47.09Aero1it has a lot to do with blizzard I can asure you :P
06:47.28Boubouillehow ?
06:48.06Aero1well I guess you arnt that smart
06:48.14Aero1What do WoW and Blizzard have in common
06:48.48BoubouilleWhat do MangoS/Antrix and Blizzard have in common ?
06:49.15Aero1I dunno you tell me :P
06:49.18Sky2042what do mages and blizzard have in common?
06:49.27Boubouilleblizzard is a mage spell.
06:49.33Sky2042sure is
06:49.34Jiyambi|afkhehe
06:49.36Aero1haha
06:49.37Sky2042but that's not it!
06:49.43Aero1check www.clanprovider.n
06:49.45DuTempeteomg, Jiyambi, you're not studying!
06:49.51Aero1you can see whats in common www.clanprovider.nl :P
06:49.57Jiyambi|afkI know *is suitably chastised*
06:50.03DuTempetehehe
06:50.07Aero1aint you afk?
06:50.08Aero1:p
06:50.12Jiyambi|afkI can't get comfortable anywhere :P
06:50.13Aero1nice keyboard you have
06:50.20Aero1how can you typ if your afk?
06:50.22DuTempetesomebody help Kirk with his stupid OS :(
06:50.23Aero1you got mage powers?
06:50.38DuTempeteI want Kirk pr0n!
06:50.39Aero1you're in the shitter and typing :P
06:50.40BoubouilleDuTempete : which one ? Vista ? or FC ?
06:50.45DuTempetelinux
06:50.51DuTempetewhateverthehellitis
06:50.55BoubouilleFedora Core !
06:51.19Jiyambi|afkOf course. Because being away from the keyboard = shitter :P Actually I was studying. And yes, I am psychic, therefore able to type while afk :P
06:52.16Aero1WWW.CLANPROVIDER.NL
06:52.17Aero1:p
06:52.36Aero1realy like that site :P
06:52.50Aero1if you play wow
06:52.54Aero1you should check it out!
06:53.10Jiyambi|afko.O
06:53.17Droffatsno
06:53.48Aero1way
06:53.50Aero1I know :D
06:55.02Kirkburn|afkoh right
06:55.10*** kick/#wowwiki [Aero1!n=Kirkburn@adsl-76-203-124-78.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] by Kirkburn|afk (read the rules)
06:55.11DuTempetehehe
06:55.16DuTempetethank you!
06:55.17Jiyambi|afkand by fore I mean for
06:55.20Jiyambi|afkhehe /cheer
06:55.37DuTempeteobnoxious little prat
06:56.42Droffats"<Aero1> well I guess you arnt that smart"
06:56.50Kirkburn|afkNext time I shall inaugrate (heh) /kickban
06:56.56DuTempetehehe
06:57.12DuTempeteinaugerate?
06:57.39BoubouilleKirkburn|afk isn't smart ! LOHL !
06:58.05Kirkburn|afkDuTempete, rawr
06:58.23DuTempeterawr back at you
06:58.32DuTempeteyou spelled it wrong on my profile, too!
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07:00.46Sky2042uh oh
07:00.53DuTempetespaghetti o's?
07:01.00Kirkburn|afkbleeter, problemos?
07:01.12Sky2042problemas, kirkburn
07:01.15Sky2042:(
07:01.16DuTempetebtw, Sky, you haven't befriended me, yet :(
07:01.21Sky2042i did one of them
07:01.23bleeterKirkburn|afk: kinda
07:01.29DuTempeteI made a real one.
07:01.30Kirkburn|afkSky. Face. Hand.
07:01.36Sky2042lol
07:02.08Skosiris:(
07:02.44DroffatsI hate when that happens.
07:02.45Sky2042i'm feeling clueless
07:02.47DuTempetebeen there
07:02.56DuTempeteactually, I have a thai soup bowl I may go make myself...
07:02.57Sky2042lol
07:03.23Kirkburn|afkDuTempete now appears as Private on my lists :P
07:03.25DuTempeteooh nm, sourdough and ham and pub cheese!
07:03.31Kirkburn|afk"Private has thrown a sheep at George."
07:03.32DuTempeteprivate?
07:03.35DuTempetelmao
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07:08.38DuTempetepoop wowhead is down :(
07:09.14bleeterKirkburn|afk: fixed ;) ctcp version me :P
07:10.30Sky2042damnit, not gonna catch baggins now, and fisker and adys are gonna pass me up
07:10.32Sky2042lol
07:10.37Sky2042night!
07:11.04bleetergnight Skosiris
07:11.13bleetergah, oz for the ping there sko, I'm too slow :(
07:11.16bleeter*soz
07:11.22Skosirisgnight bleeter
07:12.23DuTempeteSky, you remind me of my little brother ;)
07:13.18DuTempeteoh, duh, he logged off.
07:13.19Kirkburn|afkWhat on earth is ctcp version anyway?
07:14.31bleeterVERSION will show you the version of the client that a particular person is using.
07:14.42bleeterUsage: /CTCP (nick) VERSION
07:15.47Kirkburn|afkVERSION mIRC on C= Vic20 ... quick, how do I hack that?
07:16.10bleeterxchat.. dunno.. I'll find out for ya tho
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07:16.45bleeterhttp://forum.xchat.org/viewtopic.php?t=37
07:16.53Kirkburn|afkI wonder if my facebook group leaving spams ...
07:17.41bleeternote the .au top level domain, clearly the cause ;)
07:17.42Kirkburn|afkTaz. Face. Hand.
07:18.13Kirkburn|afk... thing
07:18.25DuTempetehis... thing?
07:18.41Kirkburn|afkcountry-thing!
07:19.07Kirkburn|afkQueensland > *
07:19.54Kirkburn|afkHere's a question: if England is a country, what is the UK?
07:20.03bleeterKirkburn|afk: a united kingdom
07:20.06ggilberta union?
07:20.45bleetersimilar language mangling to the United States.. state is a synonym for country.
07:20.47ThraeI thought England didn't really exist anymore except as a nationality. It's all the United Kingdom now. Maybe you can consider it a Provincal Country?
07:20.48DuTempeteeminent domain at work?
07:20.58ggilbertI'd assume it was a similar construct to the United States of America
07:21.33DuTempeteno ggil, aside from texas, most of the states int he country don't mind being in the union
07:21.36ThraeI don't think the United Kingdom is enfederated.
07:21.59DuTempeteand it was a single country before it became the "United States"
07:22.01bleeteranyways, isn't it the United Kingdom and Northern Ireland these days?
07:22.21Kirkburn|afk"The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland (United Kingdom; UK; Britain)[6] is a country[7] and sovereign state to the north-west of mainland Europe."
07:22.38Kirkburn|afkWhilst ... England is also a country :P
07:22.42DuTempeteAye, don't ignore the Irish, or they're bomb your face.
07:23.01Kirkburn|afkIt's a country made of four countries :D
07:23.21bleetergah, fake it already Kirkburn|afk! fake it for me baybeee!
07:23.23DuTempetewait... 4?
07:23.32Kirkburn|afkyes ...
07:23.39DuTempeteon that note... where's my Kirkburn pr0n?
07:23.39bleeterKirkburn|afk: I love it when you lie to me... please lie!
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07:24.25DuTempeteHrmm... England, Scotland, Northern Ireland... and...
07:24.32DuTempeteand I just being a ditz again?
07:24.39ggilbertWales
07:24.50DuTempeteOh, I didn't know that was a separate country.
07:25.22bleeterNorthern Ireland prolly isn't a seperate country in the same way Wales/Scotland is/are/were.. erm.. yeah.. all terribly confusing
07:25.29DuTempeteI just figured it was another county they like to use for royal titles or something ridiculously English.
07:25.40DuTempetedamn mice
07:27.17bleeterthe reasons for the way it is is pretty closely tied in to the history of the US
07:27.18DuTempeteOf course, since there can be a Duke of Kent, it wouldn't do to have a Prince of York...
07:27.29bleeterso I'm not suprised it's not taught in schools there! :P
07:27.42bleeter*history of the founding of the US
07:28.00DuTempeteThe Princes and Princesses obviously have to have a shinier title.
07:28.56DuTempeteDid the Scots ever stop trying to claim a royal family?
07:29.58Kirkburn|afkWeird thing is, Wales Scotland and NI all have their own version of a government
07:30.04Kirkburn|afkYet England doesn't :P
07:30.49Kirkburn|afkOne wonders where the hell my housemate is
07:32.00DuTempeteWhy do you care, as long as he isn't whispering sweet nothings into his mobile while you're awake?
07:32.28Kirkburn|afklol
07:33.12Kirkburn|afkWell, it's all okay cause I'm havin' ma Chocolate Fudge Brownie!
07:33.37DuTempeteI don't mind, I'm eating pub cheese and ham on sourdough, and I have peach pie for later!
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07:34.21Jiyambi|afkI ate a piece of blackberry pie my mommy made when she was visiting :)
07:34.36DuTempetepeach pie > blackberry pie
07:34.53Jiyambi|afkI beg to differ :P
07:35.01DuTempeteI don't care, cuz I always win!
07:35.05Jiyambi|afkhehe
07:35.22ggilbertKirkburn|afk: this might just be me showing my ignorance of UK history, but I had thought that the basis of the UK government was initially the government of England
07:35.32Kirkburn|afkwtf is with sourdough anyway, never heard of it before I came here
07:35.50Kirkburn|afkWestminster is indeed the base of Parliament
07:36.08Kirkburn|afkBut Parliament is for all the UK, there's no England-specific version
07:36.15DuTempetelol never heard of sourdough?  That's sad.
07:36.25DuTempeteIt's good shit.
07:36.28Kirkburn|afkWe don't call it that in the UK
07:36.35DuTempeteWhat do you call it?
07:36.39Kirkburn|afkPlus we have nice white fluffy bread, not your weird dry stuff ><
07:36.41Kirkburn|afkBREAD
07:36.46Kirkburn|afk:)
07:36.46ggilbertSourdough is awesome
07:36.47DuTempetelol
07:36.57DuTempeteLol I eat white fluffy bread, too :)
07:37.06DuTempeteI eat damn near anything =P
07:37.11DuTempeteMy momma grew me up gud!
07:38.06bleeterKirkburn|afk: sourdough's quite.. continental... you telling me the americans have some european culture? egads man! LEAVE NOW!
07:38.19DuTempetelmao
07:38.38DuTempeteYeah, I always though sourdough was a French or English thing.
07:38.48Kirkburn|afkApparently "San Francisco sourdough is the most famous sourdough bread made in the US."
07:38.51DuTempeteAlthough here in the states the Californians have taken over.
07:39.01DuTempeteyup
07:39.04DuTempeteit's the air
07:39.10bleeterDuTempete: northern europe
07:39.11ggilbertSo sad
07:39.12DuTempetesupposed to make for the best sourdough
07:39.27ggilbertFollowing Californian's is never a good idea
07:39.32bleetergermanic countries, far more than the iberian peninsula
07:39.33ggilbertCalifornians
07:39.46Kirkburn|afkPerhaps your sourdough is closer to what I have at home
07:40.02Kirkburn|afkOver here it's just too dry :/
07:40.21Kirkburn|afkItalian bread is similar
07:40.31DuTempeteitalian bread is dry?
07:40.37DuTempetecrusty, sure, but not dry
07:40.59DuTempeteAnd the sourdough I'm eating right now is rather moist.
07:41.18DuTempeteit's more dense than most breads, but it's still moist.
07:41.49Kirkburn|afkWell that sounds about right :)
07:42.12DuTempeteI'm tempted to make some sourdough starter, and give indiana sourdough a shot ;)
07:43.05bleeterKirkburn|afk: catchya later mate, have a better one! :D
07:43.11bleeterand you too, DuTempete :)
07:43.17DuTempetenight bleeter ;)
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07:45.53DuTempeteSkosiris, did you find food?
07:47.15DuTempeteOh, lol Kirk, I see what you're talking about with the "Private".  That's because I deactivated that account.
07:47.22DuTempeteStill funny, though.
07:48.34DuTempetelol... I just bit myself...
07:48.44Kirkburn|afkbleeter, see ya
07:50.48Kirkburn|afkThis is quite interesting (esp towards the end) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdjYYFOGE3k
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07:52.14SkosirisDuTempete: nope :(
07:52.28DuTempeteawww.
07:53.02Skosirisha
07:53.52SkosirisI guess a drink will do :p
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07:55.58Laurlymorning
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07:57.45DuTempetemorning Laurly
07:58.00DuTempeteOoh, are you gonna get drunk and hit on Laurly, Skosiris?
07:58.45Laurlyna
07:59.18Laurlygoing to try and fix the bot and clean the house. got company coming for the weekend
08:00.36Kirkburn|afkomg, I forgot my beer!
08:00.57Kirkburn|afkAdd "clean house" functionality to the bot :P
08:01.12Laurlyim trying to get it to do the dishes first
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08:03.03DuTempetelol Kirkburn|afk, that sounds like all the complaints I ever had about SMB2 =P
08:03.20DuTempeteHrmm... I need to break out a bottle of wine, you think?
08:04.18DuTempeteBut of course, we all played SMB2 out of loyalty.
08:04.34DuTempetethe bastards :(
08:06.33DuTempetehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrSwCWvdFBk lol
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08:09.10Kirkburn|afkHousemate is back
08:09.19Kirkburn|afkHe was at work all this time
08:09.33DuTempetelol
08:09.36DuTempetethat's nuts
08:09.57Kirkburn|afkEssentially 9:30am to 12pm
08:10.03Kirkburn|afkTech guys, eh, whatchagonnado
08:10.17Kirkburn|afk(not even paid)
08:10.27DuTempetedamn salaries ;)
08:10.50Kirkburn|afkAnyhoo, gotta love how to play youtube vids, I have to run it from the terminal
08:11.00Kirkburn|afkI need bleet's uber linux skillz
08:11.17DuTempetewell, you could've asked him before he logged out =P
08:11.48DuTempeteNeed to get your camera working on there, too
08:12.07DuTempeteneeds more pics of Kirkburn on it!
08:13.37DuTempeteI need more stuff for my [Shrine of Kirkburn].
08:18.13Laurlyhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Undead_Ravager  <-- going to generate that one first so we can unconfuse that poor guy
08:21.45DuTempetewow, some people you just don't want to give editing advice to.
08:22.07DuTempete"i dont understand what adress bar to put the imformation in"
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08:25.18Kirkburn|afkDuTempete, lol I know
08:25.36DuTempetedamn, I'm over 1100, now
08:25.43Kirkburn|afkYou just know you're going to end up regretting it later :P
08:25.47DuTempetethat makes me 1337, doesn't it?
08:25.49DuTempetehehe
08:25.59Kirkburn|afkNo, 1337 would make you 1337
08:26.15Kirkburn|afkYou really ARE bad at mathS
08:26.24Kirkburn|afkYes, see how I spelt it with an s
08:26.31DuTempeteThe worst part is you just can't bear to watch him sit there w/o a response.
08:26.38Kirkburn|afkThat because mathematics is plural, you silly Americans
08:26.56Kirkburn|afkDuTempete, true
08:27.14Kirkburn|afksilly, silly, silly, silly, silly, silly, silly. Silly.
08:27.15DuTempeteno, 1337 would make me 81422
08:27.26Kirkburn|afkI prefer 80085
08:28.03DuTempetebut 81422 is bigger than 80085
08:28.13Kirkburn|afkAre they really?!
08:28.15winkiller1337 is 4919
08:28.17Kirkburn|afkO_O
08:28.30Laurlyi seriously need to speed up npc generation :/
08:28.35DuTempeteWell, yes, they are quite large.
08:28.54Kirkburn|afk... numbers.
08:28.56winkillerthe other way round 1337 is 539
08:29.01DuTempeteyes... number...
08:29.23Kirkburn|afkWait, why am I railing against that image. Nvm me
08:29.25DuTempeteerr numbers... jesus I type like a drunk at 4:30 in the morning...
08:30.02Kirkburn|afkI'm not getting to number conversion thing btw ><
08:30.05Kirkburn|afk*the
08:30.14DuTempeteyes, bask in the image, do not resist...
08:30.21Kirkburn|afkAll I turned up in a search for 81422 was http://www.city-data.com/soz/soz-81422.html
08:30.40DuTempete81422-1337=80085
08:30.54Kirkburn|afkaah
08:31.00DuTempetewasn't that hard
08:31.02Kirkburn|afkYes, you see, I didn't have my calculator to hand
08:31.14DuTempeteand here *I* thought math was hard...
08:31.17DuTempeteI did that in my head...
08:31.22Kirkburn|afkmathS, mathS
08:31.24winkiller0x1337 = 4919
08:31.31Kirkburn|afkegad
08:31.32DuTempeteuhh...
08:31.36Kirkburn|afkThat's just sad, man
08:31.57Kirkburn|afkProbably
08:31.59DuTempeteI'm confuzzled :(
08:32.06Kirkburn|afkAssuming I'm actually getting the meaning
08:32.15winkillerI need a coke..
08:32.18winkillertoo early
08:32.21DuTempeteI need a beer.
08:32.24Kirkburn|afkHexadecimal?
08:32.24DuTempetetoo late
08:32.56DuTempeteoh god, that's waaaaay too indepth for my wee hours of the morning brain.
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08:33.06winkiller*clap*
08:33.12winkiller100 points
08:33.15Kirkburn|afkyay
08:33.18winkillerI still don't et the 8xxxx numbers
08:33.19Kirkburn|afkFor Griffindor?
08:33.23DuTempetehehe
08:33.32Kirkburn|afkAnyway, DuTempete has big 81422 and that's what's important
08:33.33DuTempetego GrYffindor!
08:33.47DuTempeteyup.
08:34.08Kirkburn|afkmy, you have long arms
08:34.18DuTempeteI chased you first.
08:34.30Kirkburn|afkIs my name Amy?
08:34.37DuTempeteWould you like it to be?
08:34.43Kirkburn|afkWould YOU?
08:34.46DuTempeteCould I name myself Bob?
08:34.57DuTempeteMebbe...
08:35.02winkilleronly if Kirk is Alice
08:35.20DuTempeteActually, I think i'll call you Jim.
08:35.34DuTempeteI've always had a thing for Captain Kirk. =P
08:35.36winkillerbtw, does America have Coke Zero?
08:35.40DuTempeteyes
08:35.44DuTempeteand it tastes like shit
08:35.51winkillerI love it :/
08:35.55DuTempeteeeeeeew
08:35.56winkillerhas it been around long?
08:35.58Kirkburn|afkBtw, does America have shit?
08:35.59DuTempeteoh yeah
08:36.19Kirkburn|afkThe correct answer is: yes
08:36.25Kirkburn|afkand it tastes like Coke Zero
08:36.28winkillerhm, never actually heard of the other types of flavors
08:36.30DuTempeteUm, I'm not into that, Kirk, so you aren't going to get an illustrated explaination from me about that.
08:36.40winkillerI mean.. all people always mention Mountain Dew or whatever
08:36.48Kirkburn|afkwinkiller, so true
08:36.51DuTempeteBut I'm sure there are a lot of strange women on the interweb who are.
08:36.58Kirkburn|afkI've still not tried Mountain Dew
08:37.00DuTempetebleh on MD
08:37.01winkillerbut Coca Cola Company has so many stuff here I never seen or heard of further away
08:37.02Kirkburn|afkDuTempete, eeew
08:37.23DuTempeteI think Coca Cola owns half the US.
08:37.24Kirkburn|afkI'm the Scatman!
08:37.33DuTempeteTHe other half being owned by Bill Gates.
08:37.39DuTempeteoh god, Kirk...
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08:37.44ggilbertuh is #wowwiki freaking out or is ctrlproxy?
08:37.52DuTempetedoes that make you a shithead?
08:38.06winkillerwtf is ctrlproxy?
08:38.19Kirkburn|afkDuTempete, what? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scatman_%28song%29
08:38.20DuTempeteit's you ggil
08:38.23ggilbertfun
08:38.26ggilbertwinkiller: irc proxy
08:38.33winkilleralways those Scat references
08:38.37winkillerirssiproxy!
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08:39.09ggilbertmaybe that'll fix it
08:39.14Voluspa~Infobot, kiss!
08:39.15infobotACTION *smooch*
08:39.27winkillerI got a guildie named "Scathach" named after some celtic legendary figure
08:39.46winkillerand another guildie said she got her toon on another server renamed because of the scat reference...
08:40.16DuTempetelol nm Kirk =P
08:40.23DuTempeteomg Scathach?!
08:40.29DuTempetethat's so nasty
08:40.46winkillershe said stupid people read it as "scat hatch"
08:40.56DuTempetehehe
08:41.08winkillerhttp://snopes.com/cokelore
08:41.12Kirkburn|afkI didn't know Scatman John died :(
08:41.16DuTempeteaw :(
08:41.35Kirkburn|afkPretty much the first song I ever bought
08:42.00Laurlyohhh
08:42.05Laurlywhats this?
08:42.08DuTempeteOooh, a jazz lover after my own heart. ;)
08:42.10ggilbertI think he died quite a while ago
08:42.12ggilbertso sad
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08:42.36Kirkburn|afkUsed to play my tape all the time
08:42.44winkillerlol me too Kirk
08:42.52winkillerback in early 95
08:42.56DuTempeteI think the first album I ever bought would have had to be either NKOTB, or Michael jackson :)
08:43.04DuTempeteOr maybe Paula Abdul
08:43.10winkillerwell, you seem ti have more taste then
08:43.18DuTempeteYeah, I think it was Paula Abdul, on cassette
08:43.33winkillermy very first cd was a "best of 94" compilation
08:43.39Kirkburn|afkSo, not "Off the Wall"?
08:43.46winkillerfollowed by Marky Mark & Prince Ital Joe
08:43.50winkillerthen some singles
08:43.52DuTempetemarky mark =P
08:43.58DuTempetemarky mark = NKOTB
08:44.06DuTempetepost-NKOTB
08:44.22winkillerWELL
08:44.28Kirkburn|afkOff the Wall was released in 1979. Did you buy that?
08:44.37winkillerbut NKOTB was the first boy band since the beatles that actually made halfdeent music
08:44.45DuTempetethey what?!
08:44.53DuTempetewhen was the last time you listened to NKOTB?!
08:44.56winkillercompare to take that and such
08:45.11winkillerjust do it
08:45.12DuTempeteNKOTB makes my ears bleed.
08:45.17winkillerlol
08:45.21DuTempeteStep by step, ooh baby!
08:45.22Kirkburn|afkNew Kids on the Block?
08:45.26DuTempeteyeah
08:45.32Kirkburn|afk>_<
08:45.35DuTempetehehe
08:45.40DuTempeteahh junior high :)
08:46.02DuTempeteactually, no, that was before junior high
08:46.05DuTempetethat was 5th grade
08:46.31Kirkburn|afkaww, lil' DuTempete
08:46.46DuTempeteI was much cuter, then.
08:46.58DuTempeteI'm much paler, and older, now :(
08:47.06Kirkburn|afkI assume this was before you took to wearing a fedora, but I'm still imagining you wearing one
08:47.10winkillerI suppose you're only mildly older than me, maybe 2-3 years.
08:47.13DuTempetelol
08:47.15winkillerand I don't feel old :P
08:47.18Kirkburn|afkYou're much older now?
08:47.22Kirkburn|afkThat's crazy!
08:47.33Kirkburn|afkSeriously, you should write a letter.
08:47.49DuTempeteI envy my own tan, when I look at old pictures of myself. :(
08:48.01DuTempeteI actually looked italian back then, with my angelic little fro.
08:48.04Kirkburn|afkThere's an easy way to remedy that
08:48.07DuTempetewrite a letter?
08:48.12Kirkburn|afkAnd complain.
08:48.16DuTempetewithout getting cancer.
08:48.25DuTempeteto whom?
08:48.42Kirkburn|afkKirby.
08:48.48DuTempetefor?
08:48.49winkilleroh, I knew it
08:48.51winkillerhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mezzo_Mix
08:48.58Kirkburn|afkCheese.
08:49.02winkillerMezzo Mix is a product of the Coca-Cola Company sold only in Germany and Austria
08:49.49DuTempeteI'm supposed to ask Kirby for cheese?
08:49.58DuTempeteWhat should I do with the cheese?
08:50.14Kirkburn|afkDecorate it.
08:50.19DuTempetewith what?
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08:50.49Kirkburn|afkTea leaves and nuts.
08:50.59DuTempeteWaste tea leave?!
08:51.10JunkHead-WorkMorning.
08:51.16DuTempetemorning
08:51.29Kirkburn|afkMorning.
08:51.33DuTempetemorning
08:51.42Kirkburn|afkMourning.
08:52.00JunkHead-WorkI has many morning!
08:52.13DuTempeteu r hasing mornings!
08:52.25Kirkburn|afkHazing? Deary me ...
08:52.35DuTempeteoooh... hazing?
08:53.46Kirkburn|afkSo, um, anyway
08:54.12Kirkburn|afkI'm off to bed
08:54.31Kirkburn|afkMy housemate is already on his second bottle of my beer
08:54.37Kirkburn|afkAnd I think he's still working
08:55.29Kirkburn|afkAnd it's goodnight from me ...
08:55.31DuTempeteawwww
08:55.38JunkHead-Worknight kirk
08:56.24DuTempetethe right responses?
08:56.35DuTempeteNO KIRKBURN DON'T LEAVE ME!
08:56.37DuTempetebetter?
08:57.01Kirkburn|afkA bit :P
08:57.05DuTempetehehe
08:57.38Kirkburn|afkSo it's goodnight from me ...
08:58.02DuTempeteAnd it's a good night from him.
08:58.04Kirkburn|afkYay!
08:58.39DuTempetehaha!
08:58.41DuTempetecan't leave!
08:59.06Kirkburn|sleepLeave where exactly? My bed?
08:59.10Kirkburn|sleepo_O
08:59.19DuTempeteuhh...
08:59.39DuTempeteSweet dreams, Sugar.
08:59.54DuTempete80085!
08:59.59Kirkburn|sleepI'm sure I will, with these handcuffs
09:00.01DuTempeteAnd on that note, I'm also off to bed.
09:00.17DuTempetenighters!
09:00.19Kirkburn|sleepomg, coincidence?!?!?!?
09:00.38Kirkburn|sleepNight night DuTempete :)
09:00.59Kirkburn|sleepNight JunkHead-Work
09:01.04Kirkburn|sleep(I'm sure you enjoyed all that)
09:01.06JunkHead-Worknight
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09:05.07VoluspKirkburn, are you still in bed?
09:07.00Volusp~Kirkburn|sleep
09:07.15VoluspInfobot, Kirkburn|sleep is sleeping
09:07.16infobotokay, Volusp
09:20.15VoluspAnyone here?
09:22.06LysistrataDoes anyone know of a good location to get Mageweaven Cloth?
09:22.25LysistrataYes there are some people here it seems Volusp
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09:22.40ggilbertIf I had to guess, scarlet monestary
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09:23.25VoluspAuction House :)
09:23.46ggilbertactually I guess SM is a bit low. Maybe Razorfen Downs would be a better spot
09:24.26LysistrataAuction House is out of Question I need a lot of it ^^" I can't affrod to buy lets say 10-15 Stacks
09:25.06LysistrataHmmmm Mabye I should give Razorfen a try ^^
09:25.35VoluspGood idea
09:25.45VoluspGgilbert, where are you from?
09:25.59ggilbertIn what sense?
09:26.28VoluspWhat country are you from?
09:26.31ggilbertah
09:26.34ggilbertThe US
09:26.36ggilbertCalifornia
09:27.02VoluspHmm, ok.
09:27.22VoluspIsn't Arnold "governator" there?
09:27.38ggilbertFor the moment
09:29.22ggilbertI believe he's gone in a little over 3 years
09:30.50VoluspLet's believe that. ;)
09:31.55ggilbertWell, there's a two term limit, but off hand I'm not sure if his first term counts.
09:32.28VoluspSo, what are you doing to reduce your own daily release of greenhouse gasses?
09:33.53ggilbertI've given up exhaling on even numbered days
09:34.25VoluspHum-hum...
09:35.16VoluspIf was hoping for something like "I walk instead of using my car"...
09:36.52ggilbertI could say that, it wouldn't be any more untrue than my first answer. Unfortunately my life doesn't suit abandoning my car at the moment
09:37.25winkillerit's just stupid
09:37.38VoluspUse your bike then?
09:37.38winkillerpeople driving their cars are NOT the reason
09:37.46winkillerit's minimal. maybe 10-20%
09:37.56ggilbertVolusp: My bike wouldn't be any more practical
09:38.35VoluspActually, it would help a lot if you could reduce green-house pollution with 20 %
09:38.49winkillerbut it's bullshit
09:39.04VoluspSorry?
09:39.07winkillerpeople having problems because their mobility is heavily reduced
09:39.17winkillerof course you should rethink
09:39.33winkillerbut making people stop to drive some km per year is utter nonsense imo
09:39.38Laurlyhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Undead_Ravager <-- hows that
09:40.02winkillerI could also say I should only read books and not use computers anymore
09:40.11winkillerOF COURSE that's good for theenvironment
09:40.20winkillerbut then I can't study, can't work and die of boredom
09:40.24winkillerproblem solved
09:40.44winkillerand I drve less than 3000km/year
09:40.47winkillermostly only 1-2k
09:40.56winkillerit just makes no difference
09:41.04winkillereven most of the time 2 people in the car, not one
09:41.05VoluspIf everyone had that attitude...
09:41.19VoluspThat's not true. Most people drive alone.
09:41.30winkillertalkin bout  me
09:41.39Laurlyare you sure your in the right channel?
09:41.46winkillerI am not driving around for fun, just when I need it
09:41.49ggilbertYes, i generally drive alone.
09:41.59winkillerand so I call this activism bullshit :P
09:42.08winkillerwell ok, the US hasn't signed Kyoto
09:42.24winkillerif they do that, we can talk that I start to do something
09:42.25winkiller:P
09:43.19VoluspI don't call it activism bullshit.
09:43.44winkillerif you try to talk people out of driving cars....
09:44.05VoluspAmericans have based their society on cars. It's YOUR job to change that.
09:44.22winkillerI am not from the US
09:44.31winkillerI haveno fucking clue how it is over there
09:44.47winkillerbut I need my car to get to the next shop to buy my food :P
09:45.48VoluspYou don't even have to. If we can get the OPEC countries to sell their oil with Euros...
09:46.44ggilbertHave at it I guess. I don't plan on campaigning for something that'd likely increase my cost of living. :)
09:47.23winkillerI demand that the US gets german gas prices
09:47.29winkiller1.30 EUR/litre
09:48.09VoluspI demand Norwegian prices! 11 NOK per litre.
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09:48.45VoluspThat would be roughly 3 dollars per litre.
09:49.02winkiller8.3 US $/gallon
09:49.24winkillerif I didn't do something stupid
09:49.41winkiller1.3 EUR = 1.83 $. 1 gallon ? 4.54 ltr
09:49.46Laurlymy uncle was complaining about the US gas prices a few weeks ago so i did some math and sent him denmarks gas prices he stoped complaining :)
09:49.57winkillerhow much is it in the us?
09:50.08ggilbert3.50 a gallon or so at the moment
09:50.43winkillersee? that's a reason
09:53.10VoluspAlso, Uncle Sam's car uses a lot more petrol than Mother Europa's.
09:53.28winkillerno
09:53.31winkillernot generally
09:53.41winkillerv8 at 250 uses enough
09:54.17Volusp250 kilometers/hour?
09:55.21VoluspI don't think most Europeans drive V8s every day to work.
09:55.33ggilbertshockingly, neither do most Americans :)
09:56.03winkillerour highways are full of them
09:56.09Volusp<---- pointing at our German friend.
09:56.31ggilbertah
09:57.16VoluspMy point is that American cars (cars used in the US) use more petrol than those we use in Europe.
09:57.42VoluspFor instance, in Norway most of us drive small cars.
09:58.25VoluspIn America, people usualy drive big cars.
09:58.41ggilbertI'd disagree with that, unless you have some numbers to back it up
09:59.14ggilbertbut, depending on the area, it doesn't fit my experience
09:59.37VoluspWhen I visited the US last year the roads were full of them.
09:59.45Volusp,*
10:02.23VoluspHowever, I don't think the style has spread to the rest of the empire.
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10:04.15VoluspLet's speak about something else.
10:04.21ggilbertGood idea
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10:05.27VoluspSo, what do you think about the new reform treaty, winkiller?
10:05.28ggilbertQuite honestly I'm still not exactly sure what possessed you to start that conversation.
10:06.57VoluspAnti-Americanism is gripping the land ;)
10:07.32ggilbertYes, around here that'd be considered a bit rude :)
10:08.04VoluspWhich part of the conversation?
10:09.22ggilbertVolusp: Well, look at it from my perspective. I'm sitting here at 3am and answer a question for someone about WoW. Then you ask me where I'm from and begin enumerating the evils of that country's environmental habits.
10:11.39VoluspI guess you don't like to discuss politics.
10:11.47winkillerwhat reform treaty? Idont care
10:11.51winkiller:p
10:12.00winkillerhaha
10:12.47VoluspThe new treaty.
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10:13.30VoluspThe one instead of the proposed European Constitution.
10:13.38winkillerwhatever
10:13.51ggilbertVolusp: On occasion, but it's a matter of context. Me describing possible places to go to find mageweave just doesn't strike me as an obvious segue into environmentalism.
10:14.13winkillerggilbert wins
10:16.11ggilbertParticularly when the conversation begins as aggressively as you began it
10:16.42ggilbertthough that may be a bit of a cultural difference there
10:16.59VoluspOr it's just me.
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10:17.35wshey
10:18.15VoluspI like to bother Americans and Frenchmen from time to time. :p
10:18.59VoluspHello!
10:19.18VoluspSo, what can we do for you?
10:27.50Volusp~Kirkburn|sleep
10:27.50infobotsomebody said kirkburn|sleep was sleeping
10:28.04Volusp~winkiller
10:28.05infoboti guess winkiller is eating kitty for breakfast
10:28.40VoluspIt still works! *Cough* *Cough* ;)
10:28.55winkillerinfobot, winkiller hates cats
10:29.11winkillerinfobot, forget winkiller
10:29.11infoboti forgot winkiller, winkiller
10:29.13winkillerinfobot, winkiller hates cats
10:29.29winkillerinfobot, winkiller is hating cats with a passion
10:29.30infobotwinkiller: okay
10:32.53winkilleris there a wiki page with "expressions that may sound stupid but are actually wow insider jokes"
10:33.07winkillerlike ORLY? OVER NINE THOUSAND! Mankrik's Wife
10:33.10winkilleretc.pp
10:33.19winkillerand I don't mean silly articles
10:33.26winkillerit's kind of a game term
10:33.38winkilleror "retrinoob"
10:39.36VoluspTry http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:Game_Terms
10:39.46VoluspInfobot, forget Voluspa
10:39.46infobotVolusp: i forgot voluspa
10:40.20winkillergameterms are official
10:41.22VoluspInfobot, Voluspa eats infobots for breakfast.
10:41.59Teomyrinfobot, Voluspa is someone who eats infobots for breakfast.
10:41.59infobotokay, Teomyr
10:41.59VoluspCheck the subcategory
10:42.24Volusp~Voluspa
10:42.24infoboti guess voluspa is someone who eats infobots for breakfast.
10:42.35Volusp~Ucla
10:43.02UclaWHat do you think about my new nickname?
10:43.12winkillersucks?
10:43.36UclaWhat's the first thing you think of when you hear the word "Ucla"?
10:44.08winkillersome uni
10:44.16winkillerit has a similar ebbrev
10:44.29winkillerUniversity of California maybe
10:45.09UclaHmmm... good point.
10:46.51PylsorBetter?
10:48.10winkillerstrange
10:48.14winkillerfirst one was the best
10:48.32ggilbertUniversity of California Los Angeles
10:48.51winkillerha, I knew it
10:49.12ggilberthehe
10:49.31PylsorNo, it is not.
10:49.42Teomyrit is
10:49.49PylsorIs it?
10:50.17PylsorYeah, it means well-informed.
10:51.00PylsorAnyway, do you know what Pylsor means?
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10:57.30Voluspa|spiserPylsor is Danish for a special sausage you eat with bread and cheese.
11:00.25ggilbertneat
11:02.05Laurlynever heard of that one. always thought pylsor was just a generic teram for hotdog
11:03.59Voluspa|spiserIn some parts of the country. Though, I would use the word pølse
11:04.40Laurlynever heard of eating it with cheese before
11:04.54Laurlyalthough i have heard of putting jelly on a hotdog
11:05.07Laurlybut i think thats a local thing
11:05.13Voluspa|spiserIt's not warm ;)
11:05.23Voluspa|spiserIt's like salami.
11:05.32Laurlyahh ok
11:05.48Voluspa|spiserLaurly, are you from Denmark too?
11:06.13Laurlyon rugbrød or franskbrød?
11:06.17Laurlyyup
11:06.36Voluspa|spiserRugbrød.
11:07.12Voluspa|spiserMåske dejligt ;)
11:07.14Laurlysee now i put cheesse and ham on rugbrød once when i first came to denmark and they all looked at me like like i was from another planet
11:07.37Laurlyjeg skal nok prøver
11:07.59Voluspa|spiserOh, those must be city-people ;)
11:08.59Laurlyna im way way out in the country
11:09.27Voluspa|spiserHmmm, are you from Skåne?
11:09.37Laurlymorsø
11:09.54Voluspa|spiserOh, ok. That explains a bit.
11:11.20Voluspa|spiserMorsø - du bliver en pebbermø ;)
11:11.32Voluspa|spiserIt's a part of an old nursery rhyme.
11:11.44Laurlyhehe
11:12.21Voluspa|spiserAnyway, where did you live before you moved to Denmark?
11:13.57LaurlyUSA :)
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11:14.31Voluspa|spiserAh, ok.
11:14.33Laurlymoved here almost 9 years ago to marry a dane curently devorcing the cheeting dane
11:14.47Voluspa|spiser:(
11:15.44Voluspa|spiserMoving back then?
11:16.34Laurlyna been here so long my life is here now
11:16.55Laurlythat and my daugher is 13 now it really wouldnt be fair to move her back to the US she doesnt remember it
11:17.59Voluspa|spiserAh, ok. Did it take long time for you to learn the Danish language? I know it's a bit complicated.
11:18.15Laurlyi gave up on sproge skole after 3 months.
11:18.39Laurlythink it took 3 years befoure i was able to hold on conversations in danish. now my only problem is spelling and grammer when writeing danish
11:19.29Voluspa|spiserHaha, I agree. I'm not living in Denmark now, but I know how you feel.
11:20.48Voluspa|spiserDet danske språk er spesielt.
11:21.19Voluspa|spiserOr "sprog" if you like.
11:22.09Voluspa|spiserMost people who try to learn Danish usualy learn Norwegian first.
11:22.13Laurlymy bigest problem was always that i come from the US danes just love to practice there english with me. which leads to me not speaking danish
11:23.18Voluspa|spiserMost Danes begin speaking English with me too. "We don't understand Swedish" they say.
11:23.48ggilbertI've heard the same thing from people I know who've moved to Norway
11:24.17Laurlyswedish isnt that hard to understand.
11:24.31Voluspa|spiserI'm not even speaking Swedish -I'm speaking Norwegian.
11:24.37Laurlyi have a harder time with the old men that live out in the country there accents are scarry
11:24.48Voluspa|spiserBut Danes are so used to their gutural sounds.
11:25.39Voluspa|spiserLike this one? : http://youtube.com/watch?v=ckhLqZODqZ8
11:27.20Laurlylol i cant understand most of that
11:27.45Voluspa|spiserhttp://youtube.com/watch?v=s-mOy8VUEBk ;)
11:32.09Voluspa|spiserPS: They don't speak Danish in the video, they're just pretending
11:40.03Voluspa|spiser~Laurly
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11:45.07winkillerVoluspa|spiser: oh!
11:45.11winkillerthat pylsor
11:45.24winkillermy mum told me about it about when she was in copenhagen
11:45.33winkillerbut she pronounced it quite different
11:45.39winkillerso actually I knew what it meant
11:46.52Voluspa|spiserHow did she pronounce it? :)
11:47.39winkillerpölser
11:48.22Voluspa|spiserYou mean "pølser" I think.
11:49.37winkillermaybe
11:49.41winkillerLOL that video
11:50.25Voluspa|spiserHehe ;)
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11:55.18Voluspa|spiserWhat do you think about the video, Laurly?
11:55.37Laurlydidnt watching trying to clean the house and debug the bot at the same time
11:56.08Voluspa|spiserAh, ok ;)
11:56.29Voluspa|spiserDo you think it's hard to understand Norwegian?
12:02.32winkillerwell, I think it's harder than spanish/italian
12:02.53winkilleralthough for a German all nordic languages seem mire familiar than others
12:03.04winkillerI can read durch at 50% success rate
12:03.08winkiller*dutch
12:03.18winkillerand I get bits of longer swedish texts
12:03.32winkilleralthough never learnt a word
12:03.34[NewsBot]WoW Insider: Breakfast Topic: What do you want your character to look like? - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/23/breakfast-topic-what-do-you-want-your-character-to-look-like/
12:03.37winkillerbut then again I had Latin in school
12:03.44winkillerso italian/spanish is not so harf
12:04.23SroshYour typing skills suck today! =P
12:06.23Laurlynurf teenagers!
12:06.24winkilleragreed
12:06.32winkillerit's my laptop keyboard though
12:06.41winkillerI'm very sorry :(
12:08.20Voluspa|spiserThe leet has influenced you!
12:11.21Voluspa|spiserHe who is not with me is against me, and he who does not gather with me scatters. Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. And whoever says a word against the Son of man will be forgiven; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come. (Book of Matthew 12:30-32)
12:11.51Voluspa|spiserWhat did we learn from this?
12:12.05JunkHead-WorkIf, however, the charge is true and no proof of the girl’s virginity can be found, she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done a disgraceful thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father’s house.
12:13.12Voluspa|spiserGood idea!
12:14.04[NewsBot]GamePolitics: Wired’s Kohler Dishes on AO Ratings - http://gamepolitics.com/2007/08/23/wireds-kohler-dishes-on-ao-ratings/
12:15.24Voluspa|spiserWhoever willfully blasphemes the holy name of God by denying, cursing or contumeliously reproaching God, His creation, government or final judging of the world, or by cursing or contumeliously reproaching Jesus Christ or the Holy Ghost, or by cursing or contumeliously reproaching or exposing to contempt and ridicule, the holy word of God contained in the holy scriptures shall be punished by imprisonment in jail for not more than one year or by a
12:15.24Voluspa|spiserfine of not more than three hundred dollars, and may also be bound to good behavior.
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12:42.30infobot"Night fever, night fever. You know how to do it!"
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12:43.28Voluspa|spiserInfobot, are you there?
12:46.47EvilGrin|WorkLaurly: is your bot around?
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12:47.11Laurlyits having issues
12:47.38Laurlyim trying to get it fixed today so that it can run without me while i have company this weekend
12:47.44EvilGrin|WorkI see
12:48.04Laurlydo you need some thing speical run?
12:48.19EvilGrin|WorkWell
12:48.40pcjeww who made all the tables pink
12:48.45pcj[[Paladin#Seals]]
12:48.45[NewsBot]pcj meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Paladin#Seals
12:48.46Laurlypink?
12:48.47Voluspa|spiserWhat bot?
12:49.12Voluspa|spiser[[Mage#Lore]]
12:49.13[NewsBot]Voluspa|spiser meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Mage#Lore
12:49.20EvilGrin|Workpcj has tagged an NPC article for Laurly bot that I had previously gone through and formattted, etc. I just wanted to !npc and see what the output from the bot would be in it's sandbox.
12:49.26Laurlyhttp://www.wowwiki.com/User:Laurlybot <--- that bot
12:49.57Laurlyhttp://www.wowwiki.com/User:Laurlybot/Sandbox/npc <-- did that one this morning
12:50.17Laurlyit generates NPC pages to slow im trying to get it to go faster
12:50.47EvilGrin|Workhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Sangrias_Stillblade is the page in question..
12:50.58Voluspa|spiser!!npc [id,name]
12:50.58Voluspa|spiser!npc 20038
12:50.58Voluspa|spiser!npc Phoenix-Hawk Hatchling
12:51.03EvilGrin|Work:o
12:51.43pcjYeah, Laurlybot would fill all that out and more
12:52.27winkilleronmg
12:52.32winkillersomeone still uses VB
12:52.33winkillero/
12:52.37EvilGrin|Work:)
12:52.49winkillerI learnt to really programwith vb5
12:52.49Laurlyhttp://www.wowwiki.com/User:Laurlybot/Sandbox/npc
12:53.20EvilGrin|Workhm
12:53.21Laurlyi was going to do it in .net but when in installed VS.net wow went wakie
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12:54.15pcjYou don't have it identifying the race yet laurly :P
12:54.30EvilGrin|WorkOnly thing extra is the location stuff :P
12:54.30Laurlyit cant wowhead / thot dont have that data available
12:54.58Laurlythink wowguru had it on some npc's but not all so i didnt bother adding a data rip from them yet
12:56.03Laurlyif you can find a site that has race on NPC let me know
12:56.41Laurlyi was thinking of doing some kinda guess based on the zone but it wouldnt be 100% acurate becouse there can be more then one per zone
12:56.56pcjdefinitely
12:56.58Laurlydefaulting humaniods in IF to dwarf might upset the gnomes
12:57.15winkillerlol
12:57.42Laurlyi started a function that did it with mobs based on drops like spider web came from spiders .. never finished it
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13:01.04pcjlol
13:01.26Laurlybeen there done that about an hour ago
13:01.53EvilGrin|Work:P
13:02.18Laurlyi really need to learn to pay attention when my daugher asks me permission for something. apperntly i gave her permission to go out with friends tonight :/
13:05.18EvilGrin|Workhmm
13:05.27EvilGrin|WorkEU armory has changed url.
13:07.14pcjeu.wowarmory.com
13:07.46|Pixel|yes
13:07.54|Pixel|and so did us armory
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13:16.31Laurlyohh need to remember to change that in the bot.
13:19.40|Pixel|if the bot was "well programmed", you could patch that on-the-fly with one lua command :P
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13:28.05Fisker-wut happened |Pixel|?
13:28.13Fisker-new 1337 stuff?
13:28.20Fisker-or just domain?
13:30.13Fisker-btw are the servers located in the us now then?
13:31.25EvilGrin|Workaparently the tooltips are faster
13:31.38EvilGrin|Workand theres some new filters + sorting options
13:31.39Fisker-yeah
13:31.49Fisker-it's actually somewhat bearable to browse the site now
13:32.08EvilGrin|Workhttp://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/en/595509812.htm
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13:39.51|Pixel|nothing fancy
13:40.06|Pixel|it's just some guy who decided it would be neater to have a common domain
13:41.25Fisker-retarded though
13:41.31Fisker-but the site is a bit more browsable now :P
13:41.43|Pixel|yay
13:41.45|Pixel|just a bit then
13:46.14Fisker-it's really stupid that with all the ajax shit they have going they still want us to do more page loads for GOOD stuff like reputation and so forth
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14:03.52Fisker-NIIIIIIIIIIICE
14:03.53Fisker-i came
14:03.59Fisker-CoT stratholme
14:04.00Fisker-do want
14:05.36EvilGrin|Workwhat?
14:05.43EvilGrin|Workwhere'd you get that from?
14:06.10cladhairethe buffed.de interview with Tigole.
14:06.49EvilGrin|Workah yes
14:06.51EvilGrin|WorkI see
14:06.52Fisker-Caverns of Time is the best thing ever
14:07.29EvilGrin|WorkDon't forget they have all those unused portals on Outland too :)
14:11.16EvilGrin|Workhmm
14:11.22EvilGrin|Workgnome death knights....
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14:16.39Teomyrwhat the hell is up with wikipedia
14:18.42Fisker-it sucks
14:18.48Fisker-that's whats up
14:19.51Teomyrit lags
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14:33.29EvilGrin|WorkFisker-: can you turn the wikipedia servers back on please :(
14:39.09Fisker-no
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15:02.19TecnoBrat-23:20:21- (@Kirkburn|afk) TecnoBrat with baby! Awww ..
15:02.19TecnoBratlol
15:02.39TecnoBratI think Kirkburn found the facebook page
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15:14.01Umbra___Hello
15:14.38pcjhi
15:14.56Umbra___Anyone know how to flag an item page for a bot?
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15:16.28Umbra___I'd like to get Veteran's Pendant of Conquest, Veteran's Pendant of Salvation, Veteran's Pendant of Triumph set up via a bot.
15:18.15pcjPut {{:User:Pcj/f}} on them
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15:18.22Boubouilleok kids
15:18.28Boubouillehacking Windows is baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad.
15:18.40Boubouilleif you hack windows, you will end up in Jail
15:18.43BoubouilleJAIL
15:18.45pcjim sorry bibi i wont steal ur megahurtz anymore
15:19.03Boubouilleif you manage to avoid the jail, you will still end up in "lol I used a bad crack" country
15:19.06Boubouilleand it's not fun either.
15:19.35Boubouille1 week earlier : "oh, 5 days left on the activation, i'm too lazy to phone windows xp activation, let's just crack it"
15:19.53Boubouille"oh, this crack looks fine, let's try it ! .... woohoo it says my windows xp is registred !"
15:20.11Boubouilletoday : "bah, crashed, let's reboot"
15:20.25Boubouille"oh ... my windows isn't activated ? bah, I guess the crack didn't work"
15:20.45Boubouille"let's call ... *click yes* oh, windows is activated ... ok"
15:20.53Boubouille"what ? windows isnt activated ?"
15:21.25Boubouilleinfinite loop of doom, GG, reinstall your system after already 20 hours without sleep and tons of thing to do today.
15:23.54Boubouilleand nobody care :(
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15:27.42Umbra___Okies, I added {{user:pcj/f}} to those pages
15:28.05pcjNo, it has to be exactly {{:User:Pcj/f}}
15:28.22pcjI guess that works tho :P
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15:34.33Fisker-Boubouille
15:34.34Fisker-i hate you
15:40.00BoubouilleFisker- : thanks
15:44.34foxlit"More Oomkins druids item in 2.3"
15:44.44foxlit"Oomkins druids item"
15:44.47foxlitMore.
15:44.55Umbra____?
15:45.09Umbra____Are the 2.3 patch notes up?
15:45.10foxlitIt's singular... no, wait it's plural... yeah, plural!.. no, it's singular!
15:45.30foxlitNo
15:45.40Umbra____Blue post?
15:45.51foxlit"Itemisation across the board is due to get some love with the introduction of further content in patch 2.3 and beyond. Balance druids are particularly getting some better attention in Zul'Aman in 2.3."
15:46.00Boubouilleit's "I slept 2 hours in the last 24 hours"
15:46.03Boubouilleand fu. fixed.
15:46.22foxlitI think you misspelled "Doomkin", btw
15:46.38Boubouilleit's oomkin. i can prove it
15:46.52foxlitorly? :)
15:47.20Umbra____Is that because +Healing gear will be getting +Spell damage for free or is it specifically Moonkin gear?
15:47.31Boubouillehttp://img525.imageshack.us/img525/1319/conceptportfoliooomkinbcs9.jpg
15:47.34Boubouillehere you go ! oomkin !
15:47.35foxlitNah, I think they want to add more balance gear
15:48.02Umbra____When are the working in the free spell damage?
15:48.11foxlitexpansion, I guess
15:48.20Umbra____Bah.
15:48.26Umbra____Hoped it would be sooner than that.
15:48.28foxlitIt doesn't really matter outside farming
15:48.54foxlitSince the only fight where healer dps matters boosts their damage artificially
15:49.00Umbra____I'm torn about how to spend my Arena points for my Paladin.
15:49.17Umbra____The Healing mace or the spell damage mace.
15:49.41foxlitDeal much damage as a paladin?
15:50.01Umbra____Prot pallies hold aggro based on spell damage.
15:50.16foxlitI believe the expansion plans to move away from that as well
15:50.19Umbra____Not really an issue of DPS per se, but aggro generation.
15:50.29foxlitBesides, pally tanks? :)
15:50.41Umbra____maintankadin.com
15:50.48Umbra____Check it out sometime.
15:51.11foxlitOoh, google ads
15:51.37foxlitHaven't seen those before, it's really refreshing to see something original :)
15:51.45Umbra____My bad, go here: http://maintankadin.failsafedesign.com/
15:52.52foxlitSo it's a forum.
15:53.01Umbra____Suppose to be more prot pallie love coming up too.
15:53.29foxlitI'm not sure what the heck they're playing at with Balance gear in ZA
15:54.14Umbra____I think our guild plans to skip ZA
15:54.38foxlitItemization is relatively decent through Tier 6 content already, and a tier-5 10-man raid to drop stuff for specs virtually unsupported on Tier 4
15:55.23Umbra____Do Moonkins see much 25 man content?
15:56.17foxlitNot entirely impossible
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15:56.57Umbra____We only have one in our guild.  He's forever on standby.
15:57.11Umbra____He get's in to Gruul's Lair, but not Magtheridon or SSC.
15:57.51foxlitdps is on-par with pretty much all classes depending on the encounter
15:58.13Umbra____But not the utility =(
15:58.22foxlitOh?
15:58.39foxlitCombat res / innervate don't count? :)
15:58.50foxlitBesides, Mag requires virtually 0 utility :)
15:58.58Umbra____We have those through our Feral and Resto druids.
15:59.33foxlitThey do stack, you know :)
15:59.41huraxbesides, moonkin are important to lift the mood of a raid
15:59.50Umbra____Heh.
16:00.08huraxespecaially if dancing in a duet with a bear druid
16:00.12Umbra____It's difficult to bring one over an Elemental Shaman though.
16:00.28foxlitWhy? :)
16:00.41Umbra____Shaman brings more to the raid.
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16:00.48foxlit... such as.
16:01.08Umbra____Totems mostly.
16:01.14foxlit... like.
16:01.51Umbra____wowwiki.com/totems
16:02.09foxlitI don't really consider that a valid answer.
16:02.14foxlitWhich particular totem is ever so useful?
16:03.18Umbra____Mana Tide Totem
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16:04.37foxlitHey
16:04.41foxlitDidn't you say an Elemental shaman?
16:04.53Umbra____Yes
16:04.59foxlitWith 31 points in resto?
16:05.15Umbra____Let me check their armory spec.
16:06.47Umbra____Hmmm...our elemental shaman is 41/0/20
16:06.57foxlitSo he has no Mana Tide Totem
16:07.47Umbra____Heh, nope, but our resto shammie does, 0/6/55
16:08.03Umbra____There must be a basline mana totem for shammies too.
16:08.23foxlitApples to oranges - nobody is suggesting you replace someone fulfilling a healer role with someone fulfilling a dps role
16:09.22foxlit(yes, there is - Mana Stream Totem, 12 mana / 2 seconds)
16:09.35Umbra____Ah
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16:10.20foxlitIsn't nearly as exciting, though
16:10.25foxlitCrit aura balances out wrath of air
16:11.04Umbra____Totem of Wrath seems to be the only 'talent special' totem for Elemental Shammies
16:11.36Umbra____Everything else would be base line comparisons.
16:11.45foxlitAnd that crashes and burns once people start reaching spellhit caps
16:12.31Umbra____It gives crit and hit.
16:12.35foxlitYeah
16:12.41foxlitAir totem?
16:12.55Umbra____No it's fire
16:12.55foxlitAh, no, fire
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16:13.03Umbra____The elemental special one.
16:13.50foxlitMeanwhile, Imp FF gives every melee/ranged damage dealer in raid +3% hit
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16:16.32Umbra____I'm not really sure how the totems relate to +hit
16:17.36foxlitAttribute 3% of every melee/ranged damage dealer dps to the moonkin, I say :)
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16:18.31Umbra____Let me see if I can figure out which 4 totems they use and the overal stats those contribute.
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16:21.57Umbra____Looks like it depends how you stack the people in the group with them.
16:22.15Umbra____For casters you'd use the Air for either Agility or Spell dmg
16:23.21foxlitCasters? Agility? :)
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16:23.40Umbra____er was typing out loud...
16:24.05Umbra____For Air you'd use spell dmg for casters or Agi for melee/range
16:24.29Umbra____Doing too much alt tabbing.
16:25.04foxlitHaven't yet seen an elemental shaman that'd outdps me <3
16:25.18Umbra____Our moonkin is not very good.
16:25.27Umbra____He's at the bottom of our dps
16:25.31Umbra____But it's a skill issue.
16:25.34foxlitThere isn't a lot to it, really
16:25.58foxlitkeep dots up, cast starfire, the end.
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16:26.22Umbra____Can't dps if you don't get out of HKM's whirlwinds, Gruul's caveins, etc.
16:26.36foxlitHow's his HP?
16:26.43Umbra____Let me see.
16:26.59foxlitHKM is a fun fight for a moonkin, make him tank the shaman
16:27.14Umbra____No way, we don't want to wipe.
16:27.23Umbra____We gave up on letting him do it.
16:27.30Umbra____We use 2 hunters instead.
16:27.34Umbra____Again, it's a skill issue.
16:27.56foxlitPity; it's rather trivial when you can't be polymorphed
16:28.11Umbra____Can't be polymorphed when dead either
16:28.21foxlitShouldn't be dead!
16:28.29Umbra____Exactly.
16:28.35Umbra____We need a good moonkin.
16:29.02Umbra____Ours has 6864 health unbuffed.
16:30.09foxlitlink armory profile so that I can shower ridicule from a high ground!
16:30.20Umbra____One sec, I just closed it.
16:32.21pcjwhat's with the underscores in your nick umbra :P
16:32.29Umbra____I have no idea.
16:32.39Umbra____I just installed Trillian today.
16:33.08pcjIt's really annoying :P
16:33.15pcjuse mIRC imo
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16:33.41Umbra____I haven't used IRC in 10 years.
16:33.51Umbra____What's the command to change your name?
16:34.11pcj /nick newnick
16:34.38Umbra____Hmm...
16:34.55Umbra____Didn't do anything.
16:35.22Umbra____Gah
16:35.35Umbra____Dunno why it's doing that.
16:35.46Umbra____Maybe Umbra with no spaces is reserved or something?
16:35.51pcjChecking
16:36.01pcjYeah, someone's using it now
16:36.11pcjYou can't use spaces in IRC names tho
16:36.25Umbra____Underscores or whatever they are.
16:36.42Umbra____I didn't put any spaces in, but it's appending the underscores.
16:37.11pcjyou could do something like |Umbra|
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16:37.54pcj:P
16:39.07Umbra|WorkFoxlit, did you get the link?
16:44.19foxlitHm, no
16:44.31pcjfoxbot imo
16:44.33Umbra|WorkI whispered it to you.
16:44.47foxlitYou can't whisper things to me unless you register your nick
16:44.54Umbra|WorkOh
16:45.20Umbra|WorkHow do I do that?
16:45.30foxlit./msg NickServ HELP
16:45.31pcjYou might want to find a more original nick first
16:46.25Umbra|WorkHrmm...no help info comes up
16:46.35Umbra|WorkI get *** -> -NickServ- HELP
16:46.48pcjtry /nickserv help register
16:47.10Umbra|WorkI get no response.
16:47.12pcjor just /nickserv register password
16:47.30Umbra|Workno response.
16:47.41pcjyou're registered now
16:47.47pcjyou just aren't getting replies
16:47.52Umbra|WorkAh, cool
16:47.52pcjtry whispering foxlit now :P
16:48.35Umbra|WorkDid it work?
16:48.37foxlitYes
16:48.42Umbra|WorkWoot
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16:51.15foxlitMad spec
16:51.36Umbra|WorkNot surprised.
16:52.54foxlitGear isn't actually that bad; but it's cloth, which makes baby moonkins cry
16:53.24Umbra|WorkHe's convinced cloth is the only way to get the stats he needs.
16:53.53foxlitNeeds T5 pieces, badly
16:54.26Umbra|WorkWe've only killed Void Reaver and Lurker so far.
16:54.28foxlitAnd hit rating is abysmal (probably the snapshot)
16:54.48Umbra|WorkWe'll be making our first attempts on Hydross tonight.
16:55.02foxlitHydross is a tank-check, mainly
16:55.17Umbra|WorkWe have good tanks, so maybe it will go well.
16:55.22foxlit0/5 Subtlety + Cloth gear == Deathwish
16:55.30Umbra|WorkWe just crafted plate and jewelry last night.
16:55.50foxlitBut you also need the tanks to know what the heck they're doing
16:55.52Umbra|Workresist stuff that is.
16:55.59Umbra|WorkYar, we have good tanks.
16:56.03foxlitCause if the adds go off to rape dps, you're toast
16:56.14Umbra|WorkI'm not worried about our tanks.
16:56.37Umbra|WorkThey cleared all of AQ40 and Two wings of Naxx before BC.
16:56.48Umbra|WorkThey were the top two tanks.
16:57.01Umbra|WorkFor our raid group.
16:57.16Umbra|WorkIf the fight is all about them, we'll be fine.
16:58.13Umbra|WorkWe also have a very good Feral druid.
16:58.28Umbra|WorkLet me get you her link.
16:58.46Umbra|WorkWe have two Feral Druids actually...both very good.
16:59.30foxlitPlus healers to make sure the MTs don't spontaniously combust at +100% marks, and dps to kill it before the enrage timer
16:59.43foxlit(DPS check is pretty strict initally -- consumable doping in store!)
17:00.14Umbra|WorkOur healers are also very good.
17:00.41Umbra|WorkSad to say, we've started converting our Holy Priests to Shadow though =(
17:01.04Umbra|WorkI'm one of the ones that was converted.
17:02.11Umbra|WorkWhich reminds me...
17:02.21foxlitWhat the?
17:02.23foxlitNo VT?
17:02.26Umbra|WorkAnyone heard more about Fear Ward changes?
17:02.29Umbra|Work?
17:02.39Laurlyfear ward changes???
17:02.48foxlitexpansion according to Boubouille
17:02.49Laurlyplease let me cast fear ward while in shadow form please!!!
17:03.03foxlitAh, no, math failure
17:03.11Umbra|WorkExactly what I was hoping Laurly
17:03.35Laurlywe finaly got a holy dwarf priest in guild so i dont have to fear ward much anymore
17:03.38Umbra|WorkIs the expansion less than a year away you think?
17:03.46Laurlyna
17:03.53Laurlybet you are looking at xmass 2998
17:03.56Umbra|WorkAre you dwarf or draenei Laurly?
17:03.58Laurlythat would be 2008
17:03.58dreamss2whats wrong with shadow priest umbra?
17:04.03Laurlydwarf
17:04.16foxlitShould be draenei
17:04.27foxlitAdds more group-mana-regen-abilities to their second-rate dps
17:04.38Umbra|WorkNothing is 'wrong' with Shadow priests.  I'm just a little sad that I had to respec from Holy to Shadow.
17:04.53Laurlyi started my priest when wow came didnt have the option to be draenei :P
17:05.11Umbra|WorkI played a Paladin as my main before BC.
17:05.17Umbra|WorkBut the guild was short on Priests...
17:05.33Umbra|WorkSo I rolled a Draenei Priest the day of BC release.
17:06.03Umbra|WorkA few weeks ago, I went respecced to Shadow.
17:06.14foxlithttp://www.wcradio.com/archives.php?selectShow=79&latest=1&autoplay=1
17:06.53Umbra|WorkOur Holy Paladins and Resto Shamans are taking over.
17:08.05Umbra|WorkI just hope when they spread Fear Ward out, that they let us case it in Shadow Form.
17:08.22Umbra|Work*cast
17:10.27jmebah fear ward
17:10.47Umbra|WorkLook out, horde in da house.
17:10.56jmedarn right
17:11.01jmeblood elf even
17:11.14Umbra|WorkOh, no call for alarm then.
17:11.16foxlitI don't mind FW being spread out
17:11.19jmeHUNTER EVEN
17:11.31foxlitBut if that means Devouring Plague is now castable by everyone, I'm vehemently against it!
17:11.55Umbra|WorkI don't mind FW being spread out either.  I just want it castable while in shadow form.
17:12.20jmeroll undead, use will of the forsaken :P
17:12.23Umbra|WorkAlthough I think Night Elves have a good thing going for Shadow Priest spec.
17:12.50Umbra|WorkStar Shards is a nice back up when your shadow school is shut down.
17:13.38Umbra|WorkSince it's discipline and can be cast while in shadow form.
17:14.08foxlitDoes little damage?
17:14.30foxlitAnd school difference goes both ways - no benefit from Frozen Shadowweave
17:14.41Umbra|WorkIt's not too bad...kind of like a mind flay, except it starts small and finishes big.
17:15.00Umbra|WorkBetter than wanding.
17:15.26Umbra|WorkIt's a small advantage I noticed for the Night Elves.
17:15.40foxlitNotice how most CS effects in BS have a casting time?
17:16.09Umbra|WorkBS?
17:16.30foxlitJust in PvE
17:16.41Umbra|WorkWhat is BS?
17:16.49Umbra|WorkWhat's it sand for?
17:16.54foxlitThat depends on the context
17:16.55Umbra|WorkCS = Channeled Spell right?
17:17.06Umbra|WorkWhat did you use BS to mean?
17:17.38foxlitI meant counterspell :)
17:17.57Umbra|WorkOh
17:18.03Umbra|Work<---was confused
17:18.35pcjsymbol of hope imo
17:18.45Umbra|WorkIt's very nice.
17:18.54Umbra|WorkI'm also an alchemist.
17:19.04Umbra|WorkSo I have the 40% trinket.
17:20.40Umbra|WorkHeading to lunch.  Was fun chatting with you all.
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17:23.53Laurlyi really need to start farming again soon
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17:56.50huraxthe alchemist trinket looks nice for the stats too
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17:57.06deltronSkosiris: howdy
17:57.09huraxunfortunately i can't use healing or mana pots...
17:57.48deltronbear eh?
17:58.01huraxyes
17:58.30Skosirisdeltron: 'morning
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18:21.46VoluspaaInfobot, forget Voluspa
18:21.46infoboti forgot voluspa, Voluspaa
18:22.04VoluspaaInfobot, Voluspaa is Voluspa
18:22.05infobotVoluspaa: okay
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18:42.34ThraeBotThrae: OK, I will now only respond to commands in this channel when addressed by ThraeBot: <command>. Note the ! is not needed.
18:43.02|Umbra|What does Thraebot do?
18:43.30Thrae/msg ThraeBot help
18:44.01foxlitThraeBot: help
18:44.34|Umbra|No such nic?
18:46.01foxlitWorks for me :/
18:46.14Thrae!help
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18:46.15|Umbra|Think it's my Trillian
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19:17.42Kirkburnlol @ http://perfectworld.com.my/
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19:18.51KirkburnPlus, at the bottom "Miscelenious Advertisement" ... I guess graphics programs don't have spell check
19:19.31Bellygrubwe need new guides to skill up professions
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19:27.31BoubouilleYeah, go afk Kirkburn|afk
19:27.34BoubouilleI don't want to make you leave
19:27.42Kirkburn|afkI going to eat!
19:27.47Kirkburn|afk><
19:27.55Fisker-DON'T LEAVE ME NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
19:28.08Fisker-I STILL LOVE YOUUUUUU
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19:29.10pcjWhat would be a more appropriate name for http://www.wowwiki.com/How_paladins_heal
19:29.30|Umbra|Paladin/Healing
19:29.59pcjN
19:30.02pcjno*
19:30.14pcjsubpages in the main namespace are to be discouraged
19:31.14VoluspaaKirkbuuuurn!
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19:51.07VoluspaaAnyone here?
19:51.11|Umbra|Hello
19:55.19[NewsBot]WoW Insider: Fear and how to fix it - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/23/fear-and-how-to-fix-it/
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20:08.49VoluspaaWell, good night. Long Live Europe and the Union! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDxMZ9vfJi0
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20:11.39BleeterKirkburn|afk: huh?
20:21.25foxlitHow come Volus in unbanned, anyway?
20:23.53pcjBribery
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20:28.57DuTempetemorning!
20:32.08pcjgood morning
20:35.03deltronhowdy
20:35.19[NewsBot]WoW Insider: Why aren't solo instances coming to WoW? - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/23/why-arent-solo-instances-coming-to-wow/
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20:55.22twoshadetodhow do i install a partial update?
20:55.26twoshadetodmanually
20:56.32DuTempetewhat do you mean by a partial update?
20:57.12twoshadetodincremental i guess, today when i tried to play it said downloading, i usualy have to manually download patches
20:58.05twoshadetodhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_mirrors#Full_Client how new is 2.2?
20:59.56DuTempeteaye, I have to manually download, too.
21:00.22DuTempeteI usually just wait until the patch is released before updating it.
21:00.32DuTempeteThey don't actually release partial updates.
21:00.55twoshadetodim running it in wine
21:01.18twoshadetodso i usually download patches that are (i thought) .exe's, but this one is a .mpq and I'm not sure how to "handle" it
21:02.35DuTempeteyou're talking about the patch that the WoW downloads in the background while you play?
21:02.50twoshadetodwow-partial-1.MPQ
21:03.26DuTempeteMy guess is that is the file that the downloader installs, so I wouldn't be surprised if it's different.
21:03.33twoshadetodfirst time the patch package has included a file like that i think
21:03.38DuTempeteThe software would take care of it for you.
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21:05.57DuTempetewell, the mpq files are data files, twoshadetod
21:06.04[NewsBot]twoshadetod background downloader patches are distrobuted in MPQ files
21:06.20DuTempeterofl
21:06.25[NewsBot]and when the patch day arrives you download the exe
21:06.40DuTempeteyou're not supposed tobe talking!
21:07.17DuTempeteI wouldn't know about the background downloader, I've never been able to use it.
21:08.06twoshadetodso when someone needs  a patch and goes to wowwiki and sees the top patches as far as current,  http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_mirrors#Full_Client   - 2.2.0 what are they to do with the files that are offered to them
21:08.33twoshadetodwhich is a thiscamefromoursite.nfo and a mpq
21:09.52twoshadetodi looks like i may be able to just put that file in the wow directory and it'll work we'll see
21:10.33KirkburnIt's not a full patch ... you get the partials, and then on patch day you get the final .exe that installs them
21:10.49KirkburnThe sites themselves should explain it
21:11.42KirkburnHence the 2.2 notes column listing "part 1"
21:11.49DuTempeteAye, if you're not suer what to do with them, twoshadetod, just wait until patch day to download it from your website.
21:11.56twoshadetodsearching for english language site... lol
21:12.44Kirkburnfoxlit, I don't like bans for those who don't come to edit maliciously, or cannot be proved as sockpuppets
21:12.52KirkburnIt just makes us look paranoid
21:16.58Bleeterjust read in the forums hortus saying there's another PTR build due sometime soon
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21:18.39foxlitJudging on the general writing style, I'd say he's the same guy
21:20.19[NewsBot]WoW Insider: The story of your first epic - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/23/the-story-of-your-first-epic/
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21:21.26foxlithttp://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Mage&diff=prev&oldid=836069
21:22.18DuTempeteKirkburn, Gryphen, are there any issues with the articles I marked for speedy delete?
21:22.24DuTempeteor any questions?
21:22.32KasoHe Shoots, HE SCORES!
21:24.59Sandwichman2448...Or...or...magi? MAGI? NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! (Sandwichman just got it)
21:28.47Bleetersome ppl need to l2punctuation
21:29.29Sandwichman2448Why?
21:30.26Bleeter'coz it's providing an alternative name not a list of unique exclusives
21:30.27DuTempetebecause punctuation is one of the key elements of lending meaning to a sentence.
21:30.51Sandwichman2448...so what is the 12 for?
21:31.04Sandwichman2448Oh. L2
21:31.07Sandwichman2448Nvm
21:32.02Bleeterhmmm, maybe 'how to kill a...' is a badly named article
21:33.35Sandwichman2448So Teabag is back under the flag of Norway?
21:33.55DuTempetehrmm wouldn't there be a good purpose for a separate article about how to pvp with a certain class?
21:34.18Sandwichman2448Yes Dutempete
21:34.23BleeterDuTempete: I'd think so, I can imagine the discussion page on that singular article could get pretty busy
21:34.41DuTempetebut you said they redirect to how to kill?
21:34.48[NewsBot]BlizzPlanet: GC2007 - Blizzard UK Coverage - http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=1646
21:35.33Bleeteryes, the main article should be renamed, maybe 'How to PvP with a ...', which'd cover 'play as' and 'play against'
21:37.29foxlitI don't like it anyway.
21:37.41foxlitHe's chaning [[Mage]] referencing prior concensus siding with Magi
21:40.16Sandwichman2448I hate that guy...
21:40.25BleeterPersonally, don't care, as long is the sentence is properly formed ;)
21:42.00BleeteroO tacos?! skosiris! GIMMEH TACOS NOWWW!
21:42.10Sandwichman2448Bleeter, first it is magi, then old english, then biased eveything. Tea is the king of vandals, it will not stop!
21:42.27skosiris|tacosBleeter: :D
21:43.38Sandwichman2448http://www.wowwiki.com/Monk Fanfic?
21:43.55DuTempetemmmmm tacos...
21:44.15Sandwichman2448I'm having tacos too oddly.
21:44.46Sandwichman2448http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Sandwichman.jpg IT IS MAH NAMESAKE!
21:45.38pcjno
21:46.18[NewsBot]<Sandwichman2448> So Teabag is back under the flag of Norway? <- where?
21:46.26BleeterSandwichman2448: as I said, for purposes of my edit I don't care. I was merely acting as a subby to ensure whatever content was on the main page formed a proper sentence to indicate what the author meant.
21:46.51Sandwichman2448What?
21:47.03Sandwichman2448Huh?
21:47.12Sandwichman2448I do not get it.
21:47.30Sandwichman2448Oh. Wait...
21:47.49BleeterI added two commas to the sentence, and you're telling me about vandalism and stuff, etc.
21:48.05Sandwichman2448So bleeter was the editer and not teabag... Sorry.
21:48.10BleeterI'm trying to explain that, in a sub-editor role for what I was doing (clarifying a sentence) I don't care
21:48.10Sandwichman2448Er...
21:48.14Sandwichman2448Oh
21:48.30foxlitDotted: http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Volusp%C3%A5
21:48.32Sandwichman2448i thought you were someone else...
21:48.36foxlitI think.
21:48.49BleeterSandwichman2448: only late on Friday nights ;)
21:48.57Sandwichman2448Who likes the term 'magi'
21:49.10Sandwichman2448I'm late tomorrow?
21:49.36BleeterSandwichman2448: no, I don't care one way or the other for that term. The sentence, as it stood, was non-sensical. I just cleaned it up.
21:50.00Bleeterso much hassle over two commas :(
21:50.29Sandwichman2448Well, I am deeply sorry. The magi edit is the trademark first move of the worst of wowwiki vandals.
21:50.41Bleeter*BUT I DID NOT ADD THE WORD MAGI*
21:50.49BleeterI ADDED TWO COMMAS TO CLARIFY THE SENTENCE
21:51.00Sandwichman2448then who added it?
21:51.07[NewsBot]Voluspå
21:51.11[NewsBot]afaics
21:51.14Sandwichman2448OH MY GOD HE IS BACK AND FRAMED YOU!
21:51.15BleeterDUNNO DONT CARE!
21:51.35Bleeterframed, huh? http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Mage&diff=838742&oldid=836733
21:52.54BleeterIf I *did* have an opinion re: mages/magi, it'd be heavily influenced by how the plural form is translated into non-en languages, and that term's translation back into English.
21:53.04Sandwichman2448I said I was sorry.
21:53.08Sandwichman2448Sorta...
21:53.31pcjthraebot: help
21:53.31Sandwichman2448http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Mage&diff=next&oldid=833683 This is what i ment
21:53.34Bleeterbut I don't... so it don't matter
21:53.42[NewsBot]Adys Kirkburn etc Teabag is back QQ :((
21:54.00Adyslol no shit
21:54.21pcj!guild us skullcrusher zenith
21:54.22Gryphenwelcome to #wowwiki [NewsBot]
21:54.26Sandwichman2448So bleeter is Teabag and i said sorry to him!?
21:54.29pcjfoxbot, guild us skullcrusher zenith
21:54.33pcjdamn it
21:54.41pcjthraebot: g us skullcrusher zenith
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21:54.59Sandwichman2448THEN WHO IS TEABAG!
21:54.59pcjfoxbot, guild us skullcrusher zenith
21:55.09pcj!guild us skullcrusher zenith
21:55.12pcjugh
21:55.13[NewsBot]Gryphen sorry?
21:55.18foxlit!sup
21:55.19FoxbotThere are currently 0 queued operations.
21:55.20[NewsBot]WoW Insider: Grim Batol: Past and future - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/23/grim-batol-past-and-future/
21:55.24foxlit!guild us skullcrusher, zenith
21:55.26Foxbotfoxlit: <Zenith> on Skullcrusher has 118 members
21:55.30pcj!guild us skullcrusher, zenith
21:55.32Foxbotpcj: <Zenith> on Skullcrusher has 118 members
21:56.45[NewsBot]foxlit you asked for someone experience with mirc
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21:58.38Adys[NewsBot]: http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User:Volusp%E5
21:58.38foxlitYeah
21:58.51foxlitWas considering making some sort of "start foxbot if it isn't running" trigger message
21:58.52[NewsBot]i am
21:59.13[NewsBot]whats the command for starting him?
21:59.47[NewsBot]Adys why is he on probation :(?
21:59.47Sandwichman2448Bleeter is Voluspå and is Teabag returned. Yes or No?
21:59.57Bleeterno, and nfi
22:00.17Sandwichman2448Oh, he was.
22:00.20foxlitYou need to run lua in a specific directory
22:00.22[NewsBot]cant see Bleeter's hostname
22:00.23Sandwichman2448You banned.
22:00.25Kaso~magi
22:00.25infobotThe plural form of mage is, contrary to popular belief 'magi', not 'mages'. I urge everyone to stop using the etymologically incorrect word ‘mages’ when editing articles.
22:00.27Kaso<PROTECTED>
22:01.19[NewsBot]foxlit PM me the command and ill make a script for you
22:01.46foxlit"lua launch.lua"
22:02.05BleeterSandwichman2448: please stop accusing me of being a vandal/sockpuppet.
22:02.07Gryphenlol Bleeter is not Teabingh
22:02.09[NewsBot]need full path
22:02.13Sandwichman2448GAH!
22:02.20DuTempetelol
22:02.30BleeterSandwichman2448: the admins know me well enough, I am not. If you insist on saying this, I'll ask the admins what recourse I may have.
22:02.35Sandwichman2448I did not say it first and stop chaingeing your minds!
22:02.53Gryphenomg
22:03.04[NewsBot]foxlit
22:03.23foxlitYeah? :)
22:03.33[NewsBot]full patch to the lua file
22:03.36[NewsBot]*path
22:03.51foxlitNo, see, therein lies a problem
22:04.14foxlitlua works anywhere, it's in one of the system binary directories
22:04.21Sandwichman2448Bleeter is not Voluspå he is Normal. Voluspå is Teabag. Bleeter is not Teabag.
22:04.30foxlitBut you have to start it in a specific directory for the lua scripts to work
22:04.33[NewsBot]foxlit i was talking about launch.lua
22:04.40foxlitd:\foxbot\launch.lua
22:05.13KirkburnSeriously can we get over who he may or may not be
22:05.34KirkburnIf he makes reasonable edits, I don't see reason to go on about this
22:05.37Sandwichman2448Yes sir. Trying to cool it...
22:05.41foxlitHe doesn't make reasonable edits
22:05.43KirkburnAdding back "magi" was not a bad edit
22:05.59foxlitAdding a magi after an admin writes "I'll ban anyone who edits this to read anything else" is
22:06.03Sandwichman2448http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Volusp%C3%A5
22:06.20KirkburnNo, that's an admin being silly ><
22:07.50Sandwichman2448I can never pick up sarcasm...
22:08.11KirkburnNo, I think him saying that was silly, not that he was being sarcastic
22:08.14pcjhttp://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Policy_status_phases#Decreed_Policies imo
22:08.53KirkburnSome people like to use "magi", even if we don't use it, I don't see why we can't say it's an alternative
22:09.24Sandwichman2448It is a good edit.
22:10.02Gryphena mention is fine, but rewriting every instance because it is what you like isnt
22:12.28foxlitI don't like http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Mage&diff=806433&oldid=806405 either
22:12.43foxlit"Reverted. A consensus has allready been reached with respect to this matter" -- no, it hasn't.
22:13.45foxlitAt least I don't think so in this specific case. The whole discussion is a bit of a mess on Talk
22:14.33KirkburnGryphen, indeed
22:14.42Kirkburnfoxlit, tis true
22:15.06KirkburnI think the current version is fine
22:15.33KirkburnI think the removal of the magi mention may have been due to a bit of confusion as to when it was added/who added it
22:16.02AdysKirkburn: http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Crash
22:16.11Adyswhy did that come up bolded
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22:17.39Sandwichman2448I see no bold.
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22:17.44Sandwichman2448Hello!
22:17.51TotalBiscuitoh hai!
22:18.01TotalBiscuitI heard there's a dramallama that's escaped from the zoo
22:18.04AdysHeya
22:18.08Adyslol
22:18.14Kaso_Drama is fun
22:18.19Kaso_Magi! Magi!
22:18.20[NewsBot]always drama here
22:18.22AdysSo punchline back again?
22:18.23TotalBiscuittrue dat
22:18.29TotalBiscuityeah, that silly kid doesn't know when to quit
22:18.31Adyssaw him on irc yesterday ..
22:18.36ggilbertI can't believe the plural of mage is so divisive
22:18.47TotalBiscuitHe needs to stop slandering my frigging station before I do to him what I did to his little partner in crime
22:18.59TotalBiscuitie. ring his mother and claim to be the station's lawyer
22:19.14TotalBiscuitfunnily enough he was never heard from again after that.. wonder why hmm :/
22:19.54Bleeter.. for many problems
22:20.07TotalBiscuitand yes Gryphon, if you're hear, I'm well aware anyone can edit it with facts
22:20.11TotalBiscuitPunchline does not deal in facts :P
22:20.17TotalBiscuitif he did, you think he'd be a problem? ::
22:20.17TotalBiscuit:P
22:20.35Adyshttp://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=WoW_Radio&diff=836986&oldid=824248
22:20.44Grypheni know, but [[wow radio]] is not under edit watch 24 hours a day
22:20.44[NewsBot]Gryphen meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/wow_radio
22:20.49Gryphenif there is vandalism, report it
22:21.09TotalBiscuitWe keep an eye on it frequently
22:21.59TotalBiscuithe has this idea that personal opinion is valid within factual wiki articles, particularly his personal, negative ones, that have no basis in fact
22:22.11TotalBiscuitthis is the guy who claimed to be on my staff at one point, funny.. I never noticed @_@
22:22.21TotalBiscuithe should like.. I dunno, get a dog or something, just to keep him occupied
22:22.26Gryphenim not denying it
22:22.32BleeterTotalBiscuit: I should apply to do some Linux chat thing on WoW Radio at some stage ;)
22:22.42Bleetererm, s/I should/should I/ ?
22:22.51TotalBiscuitYou and Cadwallion would get on swimmingly I imagine on that particular topic :P
22:23.09Adysdid we ever even reach a decision about drama in user pages
22:23.16Bleetersweet, will look into it after end of next week (uni assignments/pract tests are due)
22:23.17[NewsBot]a linux show? :o gief
22:23.35Adyshm no we didnt..
22:23.38[NewsBot]Geek factor: 110%
22:23.39Bleeterlong as I can play some Bill Laswell ;)
22:23.50Bleeteror Jah Wobble.. hmm
22:23.53TotalBiscuitBasically, I'm defending what's mine. I really have no interest in drama with this idiot. The reason I editted his userpage in the first place was the fact that he was making himself out to be some internet-hero, and conviniently ignoring all of the huge drama he caused on the forums. I'll leave it be, but if he comes near our page again I'll bite his legs off
22:23.58TotalBiscuitis that an acceptable solution? :P
22:24.33TotalBiscuitand by bite his legs off, I mean, report him for vandalism
22:24.39TotalBiscuitand then have him hunted down IRL by rabid dogs
22:24.41Adysobviously
22:24.44TotalBiscuitindeed..
22:25.04AdysKirkburn: ping
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22:25.36AdysTotalBiscuit: i dont think user pages are really intended to be what punchline's is
22:25.54TotalBiscuitI'd have thought that they should be used to hilight anything significant that the user has done for the community
22:25.57TotalBiscuitI mean, like his blog for instance
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22:26.01TotalBiscuitthat's good information for a user page
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22:26.18TotalBiscuita personal big-up and stretch the truth page though? Not so much
22:26.22Sandwichman2448Crash is angry.
22:26.43Adysyou can pretty much put anything you want about yourself in userpage, its like a profile, but the way he puts it is ridiculous
22:27.02TotalBiscuitit's typical from him really
22:27.06Sandwichman2448My page is ridiculous.
22:27.07TotalBiscuithe's been doing that kind of shit for years
22:27.14Gryphenso get used to it :)
22:27.20Adysfuck's sake whats up with Crash indeed lol
22:27.30TotalBiscuitI'll get used to it when he stays the hell away from me and my people :P
22:27.31Gryphencrash has a bad life
22:27.52[NewsBot]link?
22:27.52Gryphenhe must have permanent frown lines
22:27.55[NewsBot]gief drama
22:27.59Adysmy talk page dotted
22:28.10[NewsBot]damnit gief link :p
22:28.10Adys[[User talk:Adys]]
22:28.11[NewsBot]Adys meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Adys
22:28.14Adysslacker
22:28.16[NewsBot]thx
22:28.26Sandwichman2448http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Crash Too
22:28.45TotalBiscuitthat sounds fun
22:29.16Adys[[Special:Contributions/Punchline]]
22:29.16[NewsBot]Adys meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Contributions/Punchline
22:29.27TotalBiscuitanyway, I'll leave the silly child's page be, if anything waiting around might make him do something stupid and get himself banned again like last time..
22:30.16Adysif it comes back about drama on wowradio page again itll be 1-year ban this time
22:30.30Adysa ban is supposed to be something to tell you what not to do when you get unblocked
22:30.42Sandwichman2448Yeah
22:30.56Sandwichman2448It is funny in a way
22:31.05Adysmaking up drama, getting banned for it, waiting for unblock and making up drama again = bad
22:31.34Adyswhich is the reason why i blocked voluspa kirkburn are you here?
22:31.55TotalBiscuitaye
22:32.06TotalBiscuitwell, I'm sensible enough not to touch it and let him dig his own grave
22:32.14TotalBiscuitpast experience shows, he isn't, and that's what I'm hoping for
22:32.20TotalBiscuitthe less people get to hear what comes out of his mouth the better
22:32.46BleeterTotalBiscuit: I'll contact you via wowradio's email sometime next week, that cool?
22:33.03TotalBiscuitIf you actually have a show idea that might work then go for it, always looking for new talent :P
22:33.17TotalBiscuitwe can always put it out under the Podcast 101 label until OMFG gets going
22:34.04BleeterTotalBiscuit: I used to do a fair bit of student radio back in my day, I'm pretty sure I can invent a show if I put my mind to it for a few minutes ;)
22:34.19Sandwichman2448I have one of those...
22:37.05TotalBiscuityeah, student radio's always the best way to get going imho
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22:39.06[NewsBot]http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/08/23/190238&from=rss <- ahahaha
22:40.48TotalBiscuitanyway, hopefully this doesn't go any further, I really don't have time for that idiot right now. Thanks for the clarification guys and keep up the good work
22:41.12Adysi got the article on watch
22:41.21Adyshopefully ill notice if it happens again
22:41.52TotalBiscuitwatch never seems to work for me
22:41.53TotalBiscuitI dunno why
22:42.09Adys[NewsBot]: lmao
22:42.25TotalBiscuitwe keep an eye on it pretty hardcore anyway, I doubt anything'll slip by but if it does we'll report it
22:42.36Adysalright
22:42.52Kasothats pretty awesome [NewsBot]
22:42.52TotalBiscuitI'm surprised that Punchline think's knowing that Ohnoes is me is some kind of great coup though, anyone can tell by the articles that the user has editted who it must be :P
22:43.03Kasoalso stop using that account for talking [NewsBot] its confusing
22:43.04TotalBiscuitI'll idle here for a while if you guys don't mind, just in case anything goes down
22:43.42Adyssure
22:44.04[NewsBot]Kaso wellmy laptop is 3 meters away behind a door, cba to move my body back and forth just for IRC when i can remote to my server and talk through [NewsBot]
22:45.08[NewsBot]foxlit does the script work?
22:45.12[NewsBot]!foxbot
22:45.17[NewsBot]bah
22:45.47pcjfoxbot is already running :P
22:45.58foxlit!foxbot
22:45.59Adys!sup
22:45.59FoxbotThere are currently 0 queued operations.
22:48.14foxlitDotted: try again
22:48.32*** part/#wowwiki Sandwichman2448 (n=cyrillpi@77.143.188.72.cfl.res.rr.com)
22:48.38[NewsBot]!foxbot
22:48.51[NewsBot]foxlit check pm
22:48.58[NewsBot]just a slight typo
22:49.42[NewsBot]but you should make Foxbot go offline for a sec for testing
22:50.32foxlitYeah, but that's in the message
22:50.37foxlitI could customize that later on if it works
22:50.58[NewsBot]!foxbot
22:51.56foxlitRemote tab of the script editor, right?
22:52.06pcj!foxbot
22:52.53[NewsBot]yes
22:53.13[NewsBot]but is probably related to the -p bug
22:53.24[NewsBot]ah damn
22:53.26foxlitWouldn't do anything even if foxbot was on
22:53.37[NewsBot][00:48:08 - Friday] <[NewsBot]> !foxbot
22:53.37[NewsBot][00:48:09 - Friday] -foxlit- Foxbot is already only and ready to work his ass off like a peon!
22:53.57foxlitHm, I don't see my own notices? That's not good :)
22:54.13Adys!foxbot
22:54.15[NewsBot]try the status window
22:54.23foxlitActually, my bad
22:54.23foxlitrun: command locked in options dialog (line 3, script.ini)
22:54.46foxlit!foxbot
22:54.46[NewsBot]foxlit i dont think it will work regardless
22:54.52[NewsBot]!foxbot
22:55.07[NewsBot]-p will take the working directory of lua
22:55.07pcj!foxbot
22:55.15[NewsBot]which is your system dir
22:56.07[NewsBot]foxlit are lua files associated with lua.exe or an editor?
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22:56.53foxliteditor
22:57.17[NewsBot]damn
22:57.50[NewsBot]dont think mirc can do it by it self then
22:58.06*** join/#wowwiki pcj_2 (n=pc@pdpc/supporter/active/pcj)
22:58.42pcjyeah you can
22:58.50pcjjust write a batch file and have mIRC call that :P
22:58.50[NewsBot]huh?
22:59.04[NewsBot]well then ,mirc isnt doing it all by it self
22:59.18[NewsBot]but yeah
22:59.48[NewsBot]foxlit gief me a sec, and ill try something
23:00.20[NewsBot]WoW Insider: Tuesday morning misery on a T-shirt - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/23/tuesday-morning-misery-on-a-t-shirt/
23:00.33TotalBiscuits'agood design
23:00.37TotalBiscuit*resists urge to steal it*
23:02.41foxlitThe -p switch sets the working path to the path of the application being run.
23:02.48[NewsBot]exactly
23:02.54[NewsBot]and thats why it wont work
23:03.12[NewsBot]im trying something else
23:03.20KirkburnSo ... many ... uploads
23:03.30Kasowhat do the cool kids use to batch convert some music into AAC in windows nowadays?
23:03.44foxlitItunes?
23:05.22AdysKirkburn: ping again
23:05.30Kasohow do i make it convert the music in a playlist then foxlit ?
23:05.53foxlitOpen the playlist in iTunes, select all songs, right click, choose Convert to AAC
23:06.19foxlit"Convert Selection to AAC"
23:06.33Adys[NewsBot]: ping
23:06.34KirkburnAdys, sup?
23:06.39AdysKirkburn: my talk page
23:06.42Kasoooh lovely thanks foxlit
23:06.50Adysi banned crash btw
23:06.55Adyshe was annoying me.
23:07.00KasoWill that replace the orginal files foxlit ?
23:07.08foxlitI'm not sure
23:07.20foxlitTry it on a single file
23:07.53[NewsBot]foxlit http://dotted.pastey.net/72643
23:08.11[NewsBot]it writes a bat file to launch foxbot
23:08.15[NewsBot]and run that
23:08.16*** join/#wowwiki KenSentMe (n=jeroen@kensentme.xs4all.nl)
23:08.23KenSentMeHey people
23:08.26[NewsBot]untested ofc
23:08.30KasoHello.
23:08.42KasoWho's ken and what does he want!
23:08.43KenSentMeAnyone here playing WoW in Wine on Linux?
23:08.47Adysomg
23:09.05Adyswhats with at least 2 persons asking that per day?
23:09.05KasoI used KenSentMe, What problem's you having with wine?
23:09.11KirkburnAdys, seen, fun fun fun
23:09.16KirkburnAlso, hello TotalBiscuit
23:09.30Adys[NewsBot]: possible to make the bot join #wowhead?
23:09.46KenSentMeGame hangs after login on 'Downloading'
23:09.48BleeterKenSentMe: problems logging in this morning? see http://www.wowwiki.com/Linux/Wine#Direct3D_error_in_OpenGL_mode
23:09.56BleeterI added that to the wiki 'bout an hour ago
23:10.16Bleetertotally weird, not really *that* concerned about it, as 2.2 has bigger issue that need fixing, and there's a simple work around
23:10.29KenSentMeBleeter, hey, nice. Thanks
23:10.32Bleeter*simple work around for this morning's error
23:10.48Bleeterfor the record, the fix is also listed in the wine appdb too ;)
23:11.59foxlit!foxbot
23:12.19BleeterAdys: I suspect it's 'coz 2.2 don't work well at all with it ;)
23:12.37Bleeterthough I've heard of one method of success, will be trying that out later today
23:12.37foxlit!foxbot
23:12.53*** topic/#wowwiki by Adys -> Chan rules: http://tinyurl.com/36u82j - UI questions: #wowi-lounge - No trolling/acc trading/emu serv talks, thanks || Not a WotLK FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/2egtsd || FA time: http://tinyurl.com/2m7sgb || 42,500 people playing WoW under Wine
23:13.16BleeterAdys: where'd you get that stat? and are you lumping Cedega/Crossover in with it?
23:13.26AdysI just replaced the word "articles"
23:13.35Bleeterah, hehe
23:13.39foxlit!foxbot
23:13.47KenSentMeBleeter, yep, the fix works. Many thanks
23:13.55Bleeter~whaleslap foxbot
23:13.55infobotACTION beats foxbot upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh
23:14.03Adys~whalenuke foxlit
23:14.04infobotACTION dons his radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around foxlit with his mind powers
23:14.10Bleeterfoxlit: foxbot aint in the #?
23:14.13[NewsBot]!foxbot
23:14.29[NewsBot]foxlit used the new script?
23:14.29foxlitHm, interesting
23:14.31Adys[NewsBot]: can you do per-chan feeds settings?
23:14.38foxlitNah, modified the old one a bit
23:14.43[NewsBot]i can only do that really :p
23:14.48foxlitBut the same general idea, minus IRC writing to file system
23:14.51[NewsBot]use the new one
23:14.55[NewsBot]ah
23:15.02foxlitI can't actually proc it myself
23:15.07[NewsBot]no
23:15.09Adyswho's talking to who qq
23:15.17BleeterKenSentMe: glad to help. keep an eye on that linux entry's discussion page for 2.2 info
23:15.17[NewsBot]mirc fails on that part
23:15.28foxlitinfobot, foxbot is <reply>!foxbot
23:15.29infobot...but foxbot is already something else...
23:15.29[NewsBot]Adys <[NewsBot]> i can only do that really :p
23:15.33foxlitinfobot, no, foxbot is <reply>!foxbot
23:15.34infobotokay, foxlit
23:15.34Adysok
23:15.41AFKDuTempete~wwquotes
23:15.42infobothttp://teo.selfip.net/wowwiki-quotes.html
23:15.54foxlit~foxbot
23:15.54infobot!foxbot
23:15.55Adys[NewsBot]: bluetracker and wowinsider for #wowhead plx
23:16.24[NewsBot]the curse one, or cardplace?
23:16.33Adyscardplace
23:17.18twoshadetodif anyone running wow in wine is having a problem playing today check this http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1230504023&sid=1&pageNo=2 it has the workaround and is actually entertaining
23:17.25foxlit~foxbot
23:17.26infobot!foxbot
23:17.38*** join/#wowwiki Foxbot (n=Foxbot@0x573e6bae.albnxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk)
23:17.38*** mode/#wowwiki [+v Foxbot] by ChanServ
23:17.50foxlit~foxbot
23:17.50infobot!foxbot
23:18.27foxlitGood :)
23:19.19dreamss2In Windows this one is usually some type of memory read error, usually the from bad RAM or some type of mis-communication between the RAM and hard-drive.
23:19.21dreamss2LOLOL
23:19.46KirkburnPretty much all new screenshots here - http://www.wowwiki.com/Howling_Fjord#Gallery
23:19.46foxlitinfobot, no, foxbot is [[User:Foxbot]], launch by saying "I need a Foxbot!" while foxlit is around.
23:19.46infobotokay, foxlit
23:20.41foxlitMm, ugly gallery style :)
23:20.58KirkburnAt least it's more understandable than the template :P
23:20.59foxlithttp://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft:_Wrath_of_the_Lich_King#Gallery = pwettier :)
23:21.12KirkburnCaptionless
23:21.16KirkburnAnd hmm, I forgot about that
23:21.25KirkburnI will take a look at them in a few mins
23:21.29foxlitIt's not, tbh :)
23:21.34foxlitHover over the image to get the caption
23:21.42foxlitBut some numbers need fixing
23:21.56KirkburnWill check
23:22.36foxlit~foxbot
23:22.37infobotextra, extra, read all about it, foxbot is [[User:Foxbot]], launch by saying "I need a Foxbot!" while foxlit is around.
23:22.52foxlitdo try it :)
23:23.18Bleetertwoshadetod: http://www.wowwiki.com/Linux/Wine#Direct3D_error_in_OpenGL_mode :-P
23:23.38Bleetertwoshadetod: thanks for pointing me in the direction of that forum article, I've added my 2c to the thread ;)
23:23.54twoshadetodnice it solved the problem
23:23.58dreamss2wine fix is hilarious
23:24.09twoshadetodthis whole time i figured it was a patch lol and this player comes up with the fix
23:24.30twoshadetodwhle the dev's say play it off and try to say it's random, the fix shows it isn't random
23:24.52twoshadetodfinally can play again :)
23:25.31Bleetertwoshadetod: I think it's a bug in Wine.. the 'err' kinda gives that away ;)
23:26.10Bleeterseeing there's an easy work around, I'm not inclined to chase down the cause/provide a fix. There's bigger issues to try and work out the cause of, ie 2.2's audio.
23:26.14[NewsBot]foxlit you made it work, how?
23:26.32foxlitbatch file
23:26.48dreamss2why use wine anyways.. i dont see a point
23:27.08AdysBecause beer is so 2005
23:27.17[NewsBot]foxlit so you used mine :P+
23:27.19[NewsBot]=?
23:27.42Bleeterdreamss2: I spend 99% of my time, for employment purposes, in a non Win32/MacOS environment. To reboot to Windows merely for WoW is just annoying, I lose about 80% of my desktop apps/flexibility etc.
23:27.49foxlitYes, except IRC does not get to write anything to disk
23:28.02[NewsBot]ok
23:28.22Bleeterdreamss2: I could also add that getting trojanned under wine is next to near impossible, unless one's really really dumb with what apps one uses in Wine ;)
23:28.33foxlitAnd a few lines to keep it from running away
23:29.15BleeterI think one can substitue Cedega and CrossOver in that statement, and it still holds true
23:29.29Bleetershit, uni exam in 30 mins... byeeee
23:29.57Kirkburngl
23:33.49[NewsBot]I need a Foxbot!
23:34.00*** join/#wowwiki Foxbot (n=Foxbot@0x573e6bae.albnxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk)
23:34.00*** mode/#wowwiki [+v Foxbot] by ChanServ
23:34.06[NewsBot]hurrah
23:34.31[NewsBot]foxlit you should also have a more simple launch command :/
23:34.50foxlitrun -np d:\kasobot\launch.bat
23:34.57foxlitsimple enough :)
23:35.19foxlitOr did you mean the public trigger?
23:37.26[NewsBot]yes
23:43.24foxlit"A well geared DPS class can produce damage in excess of 1,000 damage per second in a heroic. The only limiting factor for the DPS class is the threat output by the tank. It doesn't matter how good you are at producing threat, you probably won't be able to cover 1,000 DPS. But the DPS classes have no idea how close they are to pulling aggro without a meter. If you're a good tank, they can do more. If you're not, they have to hold back si
23:44.03[NewsBot]that got cut off foxlit
23:44.08[NewsBot]If you're not, they have to hold back si
23:44.08foxlitBurst, maybe, but there's no way in hell you'll be able to sustain 1k dps in a 5-man on normal mobs
23:44.17foxlitgnificantly."
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23:59.21AFKDuTempeteSkosiris, how were the tacos?

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