| 00:00.38 | DuTempete | Oooh, a link to what Wikipedia does not inform me about the theory of evolution! |
| 00:01.12 | pcj | how do you cilck |
| 00:02.43 | ShaunO` | HIIHIHI |
| 00:02.50 | pcj | hello |
| 00:03.31 | DuTempete | Wow! I can't believe it! Experiments attempting to replicate millenia of evolution failed?! |
| 00:04.28 | Kirkburn | hehe |
| 00:04.47 | Kirkburn | Conservapedia is basically self-destructing |
| 00:04.54 | DuTempete | no kidding |
| 00:05.33 | DuTempete | how can you maintain a community in which the goal is argument, and the people therein do not even agree with themselves? |
| 00:05.52 | DuTempete | And then play it off as an "encyclopedia"? |
| 00:06.14 | DuTempete | I'm still giggling over their motto... |
| 00:06.25 | DuTempete | "The trustworthy Encyclopedia" |
| 00:07.23 | DuTempete | still getting blank pages on SoL, even after registering. |
| 00:08.18 | DuTempete | Oh, and hi, ShaunO', here's a chillpill... =P |
| 00:08.37 | DuTempete | omg |
| 00:08.58 | DuTempete | somebody in #wowhead uses "Saladin" as their nick... |
| 00:09.22 | DuTempete | must... not... pester... |
| 00:11.48 | DuTempete | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saladin |
| 00:13.09 | DuTempete | Adys! |
| 00:13.40 | Adys | mm |
| 00:13.44 | Adys | yes? :) |
| 00:13.49 | DuTempete | I need amusement. :( |
| 00:14.37 | Adys | ~amuse dutempete |
| 00:14.46 | DuTempete | I've been playign WoW for nearly a week, nonstop, and don't feel like logging in. And there's no one's warlock edits to go over... |
| 00:15.45 | DuTempete | I suppose I could do some of the other work on them, though. |
| 00:16.10 | winkiller | why pester Saladin? |
| 00:16.15 | DuTempete | That would require patience, though, and I can't even sit still, atm. |
| 00:16.25 | DuTempete | To find out why he named himself that. |
| 00:16.34 | winkiller | why would you care? |
| 00:16.49 | winkiller | there are tons of people who name emselves after hostoric folks |
| 00:16.50 | DuTempete | I'm like the cat. |
| 00:16.57 | winkiller | what cat? |
| 00:17.07 | DuTempete | The one that curiousity killed. |
| 00:17.12 | winkiller | oh |
| 00:17.16 | winkiller | that one |
| 00:17.21 | DuTempete | hehe, yeah |
| 00:18.18 | winkiller | I could mock you into explaining the reasoning for your nick |
| 00:18.20 | winkiller | if you are so bored |
| 00:18.29 | DuTempete | it's french |
| 00:18.32 | DuTempete | sort of |
| 00:18.35 | DuTempete | shut up, Adys |
| 00:18.37 | winkiller | no shit |
| 00:18.38 | winkiller | :P |
| 00:18.42 | Adys | :( |
| 00:18.46 | DuTempete | you know what I mean by it? |
| 00:19.03 | Adys | :) |
| 00:19.45 | DuTempete | Technically, it should be DeLaTempete |
| 00:20.00 | DuTempete | but I mussed it up, on accident, when I created it so many years ago. |
| 00:20.07 | winkiller | from an etymological standpoint and not knowing french besides "baguette" and "oui" I'd go for tempest |
| 00:20.17 | winkiller | which still makes no sense to me |
| 00:20.45 | Adys | DuTempete rings better than DeLaTempete |
| 00:20.53 | winkiller | yes |
| 00:20.58 | DuTempete | you're close, since english and french are both latin based, Tempest and Tempete share a meaning. |
| 00:21.05 | DuTempete | That's what I thought, too =P |
| 00:21.22 | DuTempete | Anyway, literally, it means "of the storm" |
| 00:21.37 | DuTempete | It started as a Guide character in EverQuest. |
| 00:21.47 | DuTempete | Her name was Elorienne of the Tempest. |
| 00:21.47 | winkiller | yay, I guessed it right |
| 00:22.33 | DuTempete | "of the storm" is just an explaination, of sorts, of my personality. |
| 00:24.07 | DuTempete | And yours, winkiller? |
| 00:24.11 | DuTempete | Linux fan? |
| 00:24.16 | winkiller | so, if not amused, at least I kept you busy for nearly 8 minutes |
| 00:24.24 | winkiller | no, not at all at that time |
| 00:24.25 | DuTempete | hehe |
| 00:24.31 | winkiller | dates back to win95a |
| 00:24.52 | winkiller | which had the unique feature of not being compatible with SCSI and other nice hardware thingies |
| 00:25.01 | winkiller | but no one told me. |
| 00:25.06 | DuTempete | lol |
| 00:25.09 | winkiller | so I had the habit of reinstalling biweekly |
| 00:25.23 | winkiller | and it was given to me, not chosen :) |
| 00:25.32 | winkiller | sort of sticked since nearly 10 years now |
| 00:25.35 | winkiller | *stuck? |
| 00:25.36 | DuTempete | nice |
| 00:25.45 | DuTempete | stuck, sticked is not a word ;) |
| 00:25.46 | winkiller | whatever, too late for grammer police |
| 00:26.07 | winkiller | yeah me too, normally |
| 00:26.15 | winkiller | but 2:30 am here and tired |
| 00:26.18 | DuTempete | hehe |
| 00:26.23 | DuTempete | What about Adys? |
| 00:26.29 | winkiller | just waiting for my girlfirend to logout of wow |
| 00:26.32 | winkiller | so I can go to bed... |
| 00:26.38 | DuTempete | ... |
| 00:26.52 | winkiller | yeah, I'm mean - I know |
| 00:26.55 | Adys | :P |
| 00:26.59 | winkiller | but I have work tomorrow |
| 00:27.05 | DuTempete | What does your name mean, Adys? |
| 00:27.24 | Adys | its Agsdyzs, something randomly typed on keyboard |
| 00:27.26 | DuTempete | and history, please ;) |
| 00:27.27 | Adys | which i prettied up |
| 00:27.33 | winkiller | lol |
| 00:27.59 | winkiller | ah, Adys - one question I can only ask someone French |
| 00:28.10 | Adys | ya |
| 00:28.12 | DuTempete | But I do like it ;) |
| 00:28.28 | winkiller | how do you pronounce the server "Eitrigg" and how can you live with the whole world mocking you that a french server was goven such a name :) |
| 00:28.42 | DuTempete | rofl |
| 00:28.51 | winkiller | I've independently seen nearly 10 people asking that |
| 00:29.15 | DuTempete | sounds rather german to me |
| 00:29.18 | winkiller | but maybe we are all just francophobic :/ |
| 00:29.25 | Adys | Itrig |
| 00:29.26 | DuTempete | I don't recognise it, though |
| 00:29.32 | Adys | or Aïtrig |
| 00:29.41 | winkiller | it's easier to pronounce in German than in English imo |
| 00:29.54 | winkiller | ah thanks, still so not spectacular |
| 00:30.04 | DuTempete | emphasis on the first or second syllable? |
| 00:30.14 | winkiller | does french have words that end in -g? |
| 00:30.20 | DuTempete | in german, I'd say first, but in french I'd guess second |
| 00:30.26 | winkiller | same |
| 00:30.51 | winkiller | you know german and french although you play on a US server? |
| 00:31.12 | DuTempete | I speak very very little french, and I can say "no" in german |
| 00:31.29 | DuTempete | I've also sung the german version of "99 balloons", though |
| 00:31.31 | winkiller | very important word indeed |
| 00:31.35 | winkiller | LOL |
| 00:31.50 | DuTempete | oh, and I sang a song in german, once, in junior high. =P |
| 00:31.50 | foxlit | "There has always been warriors in every race, from the murlocs to the tauren! Anyone willing to take up arms to defend their people can be classed as a warrior." |
| 00:32.01 | foxlit | 'cept Blood elves. Cause they're cowards. |
| 00:32.02 | winkiller | not blood elves |
| 00:32.10 | DuTempete | lol |
| 00:32.31 | winkiller | but that quote sounds like braveheart |
| 00:32.35 | winkiller | or something |
| 00:32.36 | DuTempete | I'm an English teacher, winkiller, and I am very aware of other languages. |
| 00:32.51 | winkiller | not a world where melee must beat 1min onto a clothie |
| 00:32.56 | winkiller | until he/she dies |
| 00:33.00 | winkiller | oh nice, DuTempete |
| 00:33.05 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/12/spiritual-guidance-priest-sets-part-two/ |
| 00:33.13 | DuTempete | I speak some conversational Spanish, and wish I knew more French and Italian. |
| 00:33.41 | DuTempete | maybe Adys would like to teach me more French? |
| 00:33.47 | foxlit | Quote is from [[Warrior lore]] |
| 00:33.51 | winkiller | about the same for me. a bit of italian which I'd love to take on again and at least I could understand the Spaniards on holiday :) |
| 00:34.01 | DuTempete | lol |
| 00:34.18 | DuTempete | It's hard to avoid learning some Spanish in the US. |
| 00:34.25 | winkiller | hehe |
| 00:34.30 | winkiller | even in the north? |
| 00:34.42 | DuTempete | I took two years of it in high school, though. |
| 00:34.54 | winkiller | I had 2 years italian |
| 00:34.56 | DuTempete | As something to put in place of learning Italian. =P |
| 00:35.25 | winkiller | but it all boils down to english anyway |
| 00:35.28 | winkiller | at least on the internet |
| 00:35.31 | Adys | im talking atm :( |
| 00:35.44 | DuTempete | Yeah, even in the north. I'm from Chicago, which makes it even more impossible to avoid. I'm also Cuban. =P |
| 00:36.19 | *** join/#wowwiki Dragonhorn (n=weirdchi@pool-71-111-10-233.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 00:36.51 | DuTempete | I'm still trying to figure out a way to take Italian courses through my college, and get credits toward my degree with it. =P |
| 00:37.08 | winkiller | tsk, tsk |
| 00:37.10 | Dragonhorn | Can anyone help me on downloading a patch (s) to get my version from 2.0.0 to 2.1.3? im not used to manually doing this |
| 00:37.13 | DuTempete | But to do that, I think I would have to drop the education cert, and go straight English, which I'm not willing to do. |
| 00:37.44 | DuTempete | Where did you d/l it from, Dragonhorn? |
| 00:37.58 | DuTempete | Adys, who are you talking to? |
| 00:37.59 | winkiller | the one thing I never understood is why I would have loved to be a foreign languages teacher . but despised to be a teacher of my native language |
| 00:38.15 | Adys | friends! |
| 00:38.21 | Dragonhorn | www.deathknell.com but I had to DL the original WoW game, and it hadnt patched normally |
| 00:38.23 | DuTempete | oh... |
| 00:38.28 | winkiller | the foreign language has the language as subject, the own has only lyric and shit |
| 00:38.36 | Dragonhorn | I dont think it patched at all |
| 00:38.55 | DuTempete | teaching your own language has many more implications than teaching a foreign one. |
| 00:39.16 | DuTempete | It usually implies advanced grammar, writing style, etc. |
| 00:39.29 | winkiller | not here |
| 00:39.39 | DuTempete | But it's much more basic. Just reading and writing in foreign languages. |
| 00:39.49 | DuTempete | Where is here? |
| 00:39.51 | winkiller | in what is high school/college you just do useless stuff |
| 00:39.54 | winkiller | Germany |
| 00:40.04 | winkiller | grammar and spelling is moot |
| 00:40.12 | winkiller | once you are in 9th/10th grade |
| 00:40.23 | DuTempete | Hrmm, well I suppose Germany isn't very well known for its poets. =P |
| 00:40.25 | winkiller | it's just reading stuff and discussing it |
| 00:40.32 | DuTempete | comprehension |
| 00:40.55 | DuTempete | Well, that's kind of sad. :( But then I'm a writer, so, I'm biased. |
| 00:41.43 | DuTempete | When you talk about an English class in the US, it connotates writing and communication skills, basically. |
| 00:41.50 | winkiller | I am a sciantist/technician, writing is exact the opposite :P |
| 00:42.00 | DuTempete | It's required all the way through post-secondary ed. |
| 00:42.12 | DuTempete | hehe |
| 00:43.09 | winkiller | yeah, sadly |
| 00:43.12 | DuTempete | Dragonhorn, I've never d/l'd a patch from there. i usually get mine from Filefront.com |
| 00:43.28 | DuTempete | You might want to try that site, instead. |
| 00:43.33 | winkiller | that's the reason I had top grades in Entglish and just enough to pass in German :P |
| 00:43.45 | DuTempete | All you ahve to do is execute the patch, and watch it go. |
| 00:43.58 | winkiller | but I'll shut up, I'm ranting again |
| 00:44.03 | DuTempete | Is English still a requierd subject in Germany? |
| 00:44.17 | winkiller | ofc. grade 5-13 |
| 00:44.30 | winkiller | well, in some forms only 6/7-13 |
| 00:44.42 | DuTempete | Ooh, now that's interesting. |
| 00:45.09 | DuTempete | Grade 13 is what age group? |
| 00:45.09 | Kirkburn | French is sometimes required in the UK, but not always. You have to learn at least one EU language though (possibly two) |
| 00:45.33 | DuTempete | Oooh, Kirkburn, where is your nick derived from? |
| 00:45.39 | Kirkburn | I thought you'd ask :P |
| 00:45.44 | Kirkburn | I refer you to kirkburn.eu |
| 00:45.51 | DuTempete | lol |
| 00:45.55 | Abyissviper | .-. |
| 00:46.12 | DuTempete | Shame. |
| 00:46.23 | Kirkburn | hehe |
| 00:46.25 | DuTempete | I would have expected deeper thought from you. :( |
| 00:46.30 | winkiller | ah, sec |
| 00:46.42 | Kirkburn | I probably heard Kirkburn at some point beforehand, and subconciously brought it up |
| 00:46.47 | winkiller | well, the German school system is, afaik, quite different from the US |
| 00:46.52 | Kirkburn | Also, I' |
| 00:46.54 | winkiller | as we mostly have 3 "stages" |
| 00:46.59 | Kirkburn | I'm a Church Pyromaniac :P |
| 00:47.22 | DuTempete | Please, if you don't mind, tell me about it. I'm fascinated by foreign school systems. |
| 00:47.22 | Kirkburn | No, wait Small Hill Pyromaniac |
| 00:47.33 | DuTempete | lol |
| 00:47.34 | winkiller | the "highest" is Gymnasium, which used to 5-13 (now 5-12), so age 10/11-18/20 |
| 00:47.47 | winkiller | after that you get "Abitur" and go to university |
| 00:47.48 | winkiller | it |
| 00:47.57 | winkiller | 's like high school + junior college |
| 00:48.01 | winkiller | if I'm not mistaken |
| 00:48.06 | DuTempete | oh my, the compulsory age is 20? |
| 00:48.10 | winkiller | no |
| 00:48.15 | winkiller | compulsory is 15 |
| 00:48.25 | winkiller | or better: 8 or 9 years |
| 00:48.35 | winkiller | so 1-4 elementary is what all people get |
| 00:48.44 | DuTempete | So, it's a grade level that is required, rather than age? |
| 00:48.55 | foxlit | Which would make sense |
| 00:49.07 | winkiller | yes, you need to attend 8/9 years |
| 00:49.20 | foxlit | It's 9/10 here |
| 00:49.24 | winkiller | but that degree is only good for certain professions |
| 00:49.31 | DuTempete | *nod* unless you're in the US school system, which almost never moves children outside of their age group. |
| 00:49.35 | winkiller | well, like carpenters, cooks, etc |
| 00:49.44 | winkiller | you get what I mean |
| 00:49.46 | foxlit | Then +3, then +3 (bachelor), then +2 (masters) |
| 00:49.48 | DuTempete | *nod* |
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| 00:49.51 | winkiller | after elementary that you choose based on your career sought after |
| 00:50.01 | DuTempete | where is here, foxlit? |
| 00:50.07 | foxlit | Denmark |
| 00:50.13 | winkiller | a) is "hauptschule", which is the lowest degree (after 9th grade) |
| 00:50.17 | DuTempete | vocational tracks, win? |
| 00:50.31 | winkiller | b) is "realschule" which is roughly highscholl, 10 years in whole |
| 00:50.38 | winkiller | what is a vocational track? |
| 00:50.50 | DuTempete | hrmm... |
| 00:51.14 | DuTempete | basically, a path of schooling that formally leads to a certain field of work. |
| 00:52.06 | winkiller | ah, yes! |
| 00:52.28 | winkiller | but you can do the higher tiers afterwards with a bit of added expense |
| 00:53.11 | DuTempete | I'm trying to drag one of my best friends in here :) |
| 00:53.22 | winkiller | for example many friends of mine did the "realschule" to 10th grade, then learnt a profession |
| 00:53.34 | winkiller | and made their "abitur" in 1 or 2 years |
| 00:53.47 | DuTempete | Otherwise I think he's going to yank me away for some blood elf mischeif. |
| 00:53.52 | winkiller | then they can go to university (2y) or univ. of applied sciences (1y) |
| 00:54.19 | winkiller | same goes for the lowest tier, but you even have to more school then 2 years |
| 00:54.40 | winkiller | it's not really simple :P |
| 00:54.56 | winkiller | how early can you leave high school? |
| 00:55.11 | DuTempete | 17 |
| 00:55.20 | winkiller | ah, age-based? |
| 00:55.23 | DuTempete | yup |
| 00:55.40 | DuTempete | And leaving high school early is incredibly frowned upon. |
| 00:55.50 | DuTempete | Our society is based on receiving your diploma. |
| 00:56.26 | winkiller | yeah, but you have people of all levels of education in one class, right? |
| 00:56.39 | DuTempete | what do you mean? |
| 00:56.44 | winkiller | you either go to college or take up a profession, all after highschool |
| 00:57.03 | DuTempete | yeah |
| 00:57.08 | winkiller | we got this form of school as an alternative, but mostly you decide your path early on |
| 00:57.33 | DuTempete | *nod* one isn't really required to think about a profession until university age |
| 00:57.51 | winkiller | but we more and more got the problem (liek 100 years ago) that poor people and foreigners won't reach the highest tier |
| 00:58.13 | winkiller | and so they end up not being able to study |
| 00:58.31 | DuTempete | I wish we had less emphasis on ages, and more emphasis on level of education, and that would require more fluidity between levels. |
| 00:58.32 | winkiller | whereas children of rich parents are pushed into the highest tier |
| 00:58.48 | winkiller | well, I guess everything has it's drawbacks :) |
| 00:58.52 | DuTempete | hehe |
| 00:59.20 | winkiller | ah, I just found a wikipedia article on highschool that helps me a bit |
| 00:59.22 | DuTempete | We really hold back our more intelligent population. |
| 00:59.37 | winkiller | yeah, I think that's a problem |
| 00:59.40 | DuTempete | It's as much of a skill to jump through the bureaucratic hoops, as it is to learn things. |
| 01:00.17 | DuTempete | I was never any good at jumping through hoops. =P |
| 01:00.18 | winkiller | but on the other side you don't just experience people of your educational level |
| 01:00.36 | DuTempete | Although they tell me I used to be rather intelligent. =P |
| 01:00.50 | DuTempete | that isn't necessarily true, win |
| 01:01.07 | DuTempete | the division starts mainly in college |
| 01:01.49 | DuTempete | those who don't go to college, tend to live in certain areas, and have certain professions |
| 01:02.05 | foxlit | the librarians are hiding something |
| 01:02.18 | DuTempete | and the more educated populations divide even further, by their profession |
| 01:02.55 | DuTempete | and even the level of responsibility in that profession |
| 01:03.17 | DuTempete | Yes, we have the freedom to associate with whomever we please, and plenty of opportunity to do so |
| 01:03.38 | DuTempete | But I thin it's human nature to stick to groups you have more in common with. |
| 01:04.14 | winkiller | mhm maybe |
| 01:04.17 | DuTempete | what are they hiding, foxlit? |
| 01:06.09 | foxlit | http://www.google.com/search?q=%22the+librarians+are+hiding+something%22 |
| 01:06.09 | winkiller | at what age do you normally finish highschool? |
| 01:06.09 | DuTempete | 18 |
| 01:06.09 | winkiller | and college is 4 years then? or 2? |
| 01:06.09 | DuTempete | depeding on the degree level |
| 01:06.12 | DuTempete | an associates, which is general studies, is 2 years. |
| 01:06.24 | DuTempete | Bachelor's, which includes general studies, and profession specific studies, is 4 |
| 01:06.40 | winkiller | hm, and then? |
| 01:06.45 | DuTempete | Then after your bachelor's is two years for master's |
| 01:06.46 | winkiller | only master left? |
| 01:06.55 | DuTempete | and afterthat is 2 years for doctorate |
| 01:07.01 | winkiller | yeah, ok |
| 01:07.04 | winkiller | let me calc that |
| 01:07.20 | DuTempete | and if you take certain professions, it can be different. |
| 01:07.46 | winkiller | I just read something about different difficulties in courses |
| 01:07.49 | winkiller | in highschool |
| 01:08.08 | winkiller | does that also lead to whether you can go to college? |
| 01:08.09 | DuTempete | doctors and lawyers, for instance, go through the regular bachelor's process, sometimes getting degree in a totally unrelated field |
| 01:08.19 | DuTempete | then they go to a pre-law or pre-med school |
| 01:08.53 | DuTempete | I don't understand what you mean by "different difficulties" |
| 01:09.09 | winkiller | like, you can take easy, medium and hard maths |
| 01:09.18 | DuTempete | yup |
| 01:09.26 | winkiller | so that the total bummers don't share courses with future math profs |
| 01:09.39 | DuTempete | generally speaking, yeah |
| 01:09.49 | winkiller | but how do you know what to take? :) |
| 01:09.57 | DuTempete | the teachers tell you =P |
| 01:10.26 | winkiller | hm, and how do you get to a college? is that based on those SAT tests? |
| 01:10.35 | DuTempete | you can only take a difficulty level if the teachers allow it |
| 01:10.45 | winkiller | ah, I see |
| 01:11.19 | DuTempete | SAT or ACT scores are requred to get into a full college. I'm not sure if they're required for a community or junior college, though. |
| 01:11.24 | DuTempete | So, you may be able to get aroudn them. |
| 01:11.47 | winkiller | are they taken automatically or do you have to sign up? |
| 01:12.16 | DuTempete | Difficulty levels and college entrance exams don't formally include or exclude you from colleges, but that's the general experience. |
| 01:12.21 | DuTempete | you have to sign up |
| 01:12.47 | winkiller | so you can basically always do the easiest courses, but if you learn enough, can do the SAT and go to college? |
| 01:12.54 | winkiller | however unlikely :) |
| 01:13.20 | DuTempete | If you only take the easiest courses, you wont be prepared enough to earn a high score on the SAT |
| 01:13.31 | DuTempete | college entrance exams aren't pass/fail |
| 01:13.39 | winkiller | ok, but you can try? |
| 01:13.52 | DuTempete | your score basically explains your degree of knowledge |
| 01:13.57 | DuTempete | oh yeah |
| 01:14.00 | winkiller | I mean, here you basically have your career chosen once you choose your school |
| 01:14.13 | winkiller | and have to do additional years to climb up the ladder |
| 01:14.40 | DuTempete | is there mobility between tracks? Could you choose a different path? |
| 01:14.47 | winkiller | well, only down |
| 01:15.02 | DuTempete | so, you're penalized for it? |
| 01:15.12 | winkiller | up is based on tests and sometimes one extra year to get you the missing stuff |
| 01:15.38 | winkiller | yeah, normally you just drop out to the next-lower tier |
| 01:15.54 | winkiller | and after finishing the lower tier you can re-enter the higher tier |
| 01:16.03 | DuTempete | does it happen often? |
| 01:16.17 | winkiller | hm, if you start with 30 in 5th grade |
| 01:16.28 | winkiller | normally 10-25 make it to 13th |
| 01:16.43 | winkiller | but i have no numbers of people who climp up |
| 01:16.55 | winkiller | but it's getting more popular |
| 01:17.06 | winkiller | as those who are intellgent and fit enough wanna study |
| 01:17.33 | winkiller | as they aren't content with a trade:P |
| 01:17.37 | winkiller | or craft? |
| 01:18.08 | DuTempete | you're speaking of something like carpentry, or plumbing? |
| 01:18.13 | winkiller | yes |
| 01:18.18 | DuTempete | yeah |
| 01:18.25 | winkiller | is it trade or craft? |
| 01:18.48 | winkiller | or even with ~profession? |
| 01:19.02 | DuTempete | I think you'd have better luck describing it as a vocation |
| 01:19.09 | winkiller | ok |
| 01:19.17 | DuTempete | the term is usually used to describe occupations like that |
| 01:19.45 | winkiller | hm, just to make sure |
| 01:19.46 | DuTempete | occupations that require college degrees are typically called "professional" |
| 01:20.23 | winkiller | I wanted to differentiate between "not having learnt anything" and craftsmen and people who studied |
| 01:20.30 | DuTempete | "vocation" can be branched out, depending on the conversation, like I did when I said "vocational tracks" |
| 01:20.34 | winkiller | like in these "fields", not certain professions |
| 01:20.38 | winkiller | ah, I see |
| 01:20.55 | DuTempete | in that I meant all occupations |
| 01:21.17 | DuTempete | but most of the time, vocation refers to carpentry, plumbing, construction, etc |
| 01:21.32 | winkiller | I'll try to remember that :) |
| 01:21.34 | DuTempete | btw, it's not "learnt" it's learned :) |
| 01:22.14 | winkiller | is that just wrong style here or did they teach me an absolutely fucked up word? :) |
| 01:22.44 | winkiller | BE: to learn | learnt, learnt | |
| 01:22.45 | winkiller | AE: to learn | learned, learned | |
| 01:22.53 | winkiller | mixing AE and BE ftw |
| 01:23.14 | DuTempete | Kirkburn! |
| 01:23.40 | DuTempete | I don't think that's right for british english, either, but let's ask an expert ;) |
| 01:23.43 | winkiller | as a non-native speaker I take the right to mix em up :D |
| 01:24.28 | winkiller | I play on a EU server with people from all over europe |
| 01:24.37 | winkiller | funniest thing is that we can all communicate quite fine on TS |
| 01:24.45 | winkiller | just the English no one understands |
| 01:24.50 | winkiller | because of their slang :) |
| 01:25.01 | DuTempete | Thtat must be nice. I don't usually get to experience that. Just a bunch of lame Candians, and rarely the interesting central or south american. |
| 01:25.14 | DuTempete | hehe |
| 01:25.21 | winkiller | ah well, we all talk more or less understandable English |
| 01:25.28 | winkiller | and sometimes exchange swear words |
| 01:25.38 | DuTempete | I say "lame" canadians, because my best friend is candian. =P |
| 01:25.46 | DuTempete | and he's the lamest of them all. =P |
| 01:25.48 | Kirkburn | yo |
| 01:25.53 | winkiller | hehe |
| 01:26.16 | DuTempete | Kirkburn, is "learnt" proper in british english? |
| 01:26.28 | Kirkburn | Either, but learnt is normal |
| 01:26.38 | DuTempete | interesting, I never knew that. |
| 01:26.52 | winkiller | ha! |
| 01:27.01 | Kirkburn | few would notice using "learned" though |
| 01:27.06 | DuTempete | Well, continue using it freely, then. =P |
| 01:27.39 | Kirkburn | http://www.askoxford.com/asktheexperts/faq/aboutspelling/learnt?view=uk |
| 01:28.47 | DuTempete | very very interesting |
| 01:29.41 | Kirkburn | Lol, see http://www.askoxford.com/asktheexperts/faq/aboutspelling/poppadom?view=uk |
| 01:30.09 | DuTempete | My friend wants to know if we've figured out how to save the world, winkiller. |
| 01:30.15 | DuTempete | How do you think I should respond? |
| 01:30.47 | foxlit | "dps very, very slowly" |
| 01:30.48 | DuTempete | lol what is that? |
| 01:30.56 | DuTempete | lol foxlit |
| 01:31.09 | winkiller | that question is a fucking fifty dkp minus! |
| 01:31.34 | Kirkburn | What is the plural of "no" |
| 01:31.39 | foxlit | noes! |
| 01:31.43 | Kirkburn | Correct :) |
| 01:31.54 | DuTempete | hehe |
| 01:31.57 | DuTempete | oh noes! |
| 01:32.42 | winkiller | 3:30 am, guess I kept you busy for an hour now |
| 01:32.48 | winkiller | but I really need to sleep now |
| 01:32.53 | winkiller | good night :) |
| 01:33.03 | DuTempete | hehe yeah, I really out to go stare at my own BE ass with my friend. |
| 01:33.06 | DuTempete | night night |
| 01:33.20 | DuTempete | mmmm... BE ass... |
| 01:33.42 | foxlit | mmmmm BeOS.... |
| 01:33.47 | Kirkburn | "ye" is not old english form of "the", it comes from "you" :) |
| 01:33.48 | DuTempete | Last night, I burst out yelling when my transporter malfunction went BE when I zoned into Gruul's. =P |
| 01:33.58 | DuTempete | duh |
| 01:34.37 | DuTempete | ye usually means "your" if you were to try and replace it with a modern english word |
| 01:35.00 | DuTempete | like "me" would be used in place of "mine" in a similar vernacular |
| 01:35.04 | foxlit | what are you reading that's so archaic that you'd encounter "ye"? |
| 01:35.14 | DuTempete | probably PR =P |
| 01:35.16 | DuTempete | err RP |
| 01:35.31 | Kirkburn | "Ye olde pubbe" |
| 01:35.42 | foxlit | "We can't spell around here" |
| 01:35.47 | DuTempete | hehe |
| 01:35.51 | Kirkburn | The "the" confusion comes from the old symbol for "the" |
| 01:35.59 | DuTempete | ah, i see |
| 01:36.11 | Kirkburn | It's on that askoxford site |
| 01:36.13 | Kirkburn | Also, http://www.askoxford.com/asktheexperts/faq/aboutspelling/email?view=uk |
| 01:36.22 | DuTempete | What I've always wondered is why it's always "olde" |
| 01:36.42 | Kirkburn | Similar to the US habit of dropping 'u', probably |
| 01:36.42 | DuTempete | didn't they ever have new pubs? |
| 01:36.48 | Kirkburn | haha |
| 01:36.52 | DuTempete | hehe |
| 01:36.55 | foxlit | Then why would you bother with ye and pubbe? |
| 01:37.06 | Kirkburn | Pubs are often in old buildings, it's true |
| 01:37.23 | Kirkburn | Generally pubs get handed down over the years, not changing purpose |
| 01:37.25 | DuTempete | what about shoppes, then? |
| 01:37.32 | Kirkburn | There are some pubs that are near 1000 years old |
| 01:37.32 | foxlit | Besides, "new" is nasty because it some point it'll become old, and then your name wouldn't be self-descriptive |
| 01:37.51 | DuTempete | well, couldn't they have just called it "Ye Pubbe"? |
| 01:38.28 | foxlit | nce upon a night shift dreary, while I trollèd, eyes quite bleary, Locking many a trite and trivial topic of nerfs yet in store— While I drifted, nearly drowsing, suddenly there came carousing, As of some troll crassly browsing, browsing in my thread on lore. "'Tis some customer," I grumbled, mousing over the Ignore— Quoth the Moonkin, "Nevermore." And the shaken sad from afar rumbling of fair dwarf-troll Nixar Thrilled me--fill |
| 01:38.36 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/12/reader-wowspace-of-the-week-facecake/ |
| 01:38.50 | Kirkburn | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ye_Olde_Trip_To_Jerusalem |
| 01:38.59 | DuTempete | lol |
| 01:39.05 | Kirkburn | "Its painted sign states that it was established in 1189 AD" |
| 01:39.11 | Kirkburn | (I've been there, too) |
| 01:39.12 | foxlit | Pavonum stole my hoke! |
| 01:39.43 | DuTempete | lol |
| 01:39.47 | foxlit | By coming up with it prior to me. Odd that I can only find that on a myspace page, though |
| 01:39.49 | DuTempete | somehow I don't believe that |
| 01:41.02 | DuTempete | kinda hard to say your pub is that old, if the building isn't. |
| 01:41.18 | Kirkburn | Built on the same location |
| 01:41.30 | DuTempete | awfully ahrd to prove |
| 01:41.38 | DuTempete | but I suppose it doesn't matter if it's a nice pub ;) |
| 01:42.22 | Kirkburn | Tis |
| 01:42.30 | DuTempete | judging by the name, it would've been somewhere to stop before you left for the crusades ;) |
| 01:42.34 | Kirkburn | We drank in the cave underneath, quite an odd feeling |
| 01:42.41 | DuTempete | oh neat |
| 01:44.31 | DuTempete | on some future unknown date, during some future unkown trip to the UK. |
| 01:44.43 | Kirkburn | http://www.fatbadgers.co.uk/Britain/old.htm |
| 01:44.49 | Kirkburn | Yes, come to the UK :) |
| 01:45.38 | DuTempete | One of these days I'm going to plot out a european trip, I'll call it "The Couch Trip", and each stop will be marked by couches people have promised me, for when I'm there. =P |
| 01:47.07 | DuTempete | I've got a couch in Scotland, one in Denmark, and one in Germany, so far. |
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| 01:47.30 | DuTempete | Oh, and probably one in France, too, but I haven't talked to Tete in a long time. |
| 01:47.45 | DuTempete | And he never actually promised me his couch. =p |
| 01:48.17 | DuTempete | I need to find one in GB, Italy, Spain, and Portugal. |
| 01:49.17 | DuTempete | I'll have to gather more couches, before I actually make plans. =P |
| 01:50.02 | DuTempete | I suppose it would be rather cheap, considering I'd have free boarding, and friends to show me around. |
| 01:51.33 | DuTempete | Hrmm... I wonder if it's cheaper to fly from Canada to the UK, than it is from the US... |
| 01:51.42 | DuTempete | If that's the case, I'll ahve to stop by a couple couches there, first. |
| 01:53.04 | DuTempete | Kirk, is being an internet gamer mocked in the UK? |
| 01:55.27 | Kirkburn | Not really |
| 01:55.43 | DuTempete | Ah, there's a lot of controversy surrounding it, here. |
| 01:55.53 | Kirkburn | Disregarding Keith Vaz, the government doesn't spent hours worrying about what kids are playing |
| 01:56.09 | Kirkburn | We have a legally-bound ratings system here, though |
| 01:56.32 | DuTempete | But I find it amusing that instead of corrupting me (I was corrupted a long time before that), it's taught me a lot. |
| 01:56.41 | DuTempete | *nod* |
| 01:56.46 | Kirkburn | i.e. game is rated 18 by the BBFC, and that means you cannot sell it to under 18s or risk a fine |
| 01:57.02 | DuTempete | I believe it's the same here. |
| 01:57.05 | Kirkburn | I'm pretty sure the onus is on the shops though |
| 01:57.15 | Kirkburn | In the US? |
| 01:57.19 | DuTempete | yup |
| 01:57.27 | Kirkburn | Not afaik |
| 01:57.42 | Kirkburn | You have a rating system, but there's no legal backing |
| 01:58.07 | DuTempete | I don't think it's watched nearly as strong as it is on liquor and tobacco |
| 01:58.14 | Kirkburn | Indeed |
| 01:59.07 | Kirkburn | So, it's slightly odd for people on our side to watch, as what US gamers are resisting is what we already have |
| 01:59.29 | DuTempete | *nod* |
| 01:59.41 | Kirkburn | But they use such stupid and hypocritical arguements to do it, it's no wonder they fail |
| 02:00.05 | Kirkburn | "We're helping the parents choose ... by forcing this on them!" |
| 02:00.15 | DuTempete | It's not like you can't have your mother buy it for you, but having legal backing puts an even stronger stigma around it. |
| 02:00.24 | DuTempete | lol |
| 02:00.48 | DuTempete | what was the argument in the UK? |
| 02:01.09 | Kirkburn | It's mainly Keith Vaz making anti-game tirades |
| 02:01.14 | DuTempete | lol |
| 02:01.28 | Kirkburn | You heard Manhunt was banned? |
| 02:01.40 | DuTempete | So, I've verified a Canadian couch for sure... |
| 02:01.47 | DuTempete | Manhunt? lol no |
| 02:01.52 | DuTempete | I'm not even sure I know which game that is. |
| 02:02.05 | Kirkburn | Rockstar, mainly about murdering people :/ |
| 02:02.09 | DuTempete | lol |
| 02:02.21 | DuTempete | sounds very Rockstar =P |
| 02:02.25 | Kirkburn | That's the one extreme act the BBFC can make ... by refusing a game a rating, it /cannot/ be sold |
| 02:02.37 | DuTempete | interesting |
| 02:03.15 | Kirkburn | The max rating a game can get is 18, so if they don't feel it's suitable even at that level (or for society as a whole), they won't give it |
| 02:03.17 | DuTempete | Adys! |
| 02:03.23 | Adys | mmmm |
| 02:03.28 | Kirkburn | The only other game to get that was Carmaggedon, but that was overturned |
| 02:03.32 | DuTempete | Are you still talking to you... friends...? |
| 02:04.20 | DuTempete | And did you hear that I may be stopping by France one of these days? |
| 02:04.34 | Kirkburn | Adys, run whilst you still can |
| 02:04.39 | DuTempete | lol |
| 02:04.46 | DuTempete | Hey, you invited me, Kirk... |
| 02:05.00 | Kirkburn | uh, er |
| 02:05.14 | DuTempete | hehe |
| 02:05.17 | Adys | oO |
| 02:05.35 | DuTempete | I'm thinking some time after school, and before having kids... |
| 02:05.50 | DuTempete | so, at the very least, 3 years from now. |
| 02:05.54 | Kirkburn | I read that as meaning sometime in the evening :P |
| 02:05.58 | DuTempete | It would have to be in the summer, of course. |
| 02:06.16 | Kirkburn | Having kids is a night job, obviously |
| 02:06.19 | DuTempete | Uhh, I'm not sure I know what you mean, Kirk. |
| 02:06.27 | DuTempete | oh |
| 02:06.32 | DuTempete | yeah, obviously... |
| 02:06.34 | DuTempete | hehe |
| 02:07.02 | DuTempete | Sorry, I've got one of those typically female life maps in my head. =P |
| 02:07.21 | DuTempete | I couldn't take a trip like that with kids in tow. |
| 02:07.48 | DuTempete | And I can't afford to do it while still at school. =P |
| 02:08.27 | DuTempete | I plan to get drunk everywhere I go, and smoke as much pot as possible while in Amsterdam, etc, etc. |
| 02:08.42 | Kirkburn | I kinda guessed :P |
| 02:08.51 | DuTempete | hehe |
| 02:09.01 | Kirkburn | Apparently it's legal here in California o_O |
| 02:09.06 | DuTempete | uh |
| 02:09.08 | DuTempete | no |
| 02:09.15 | Kirkburn | But not on a federal level |
| 02:09.19 | DuTempete | if you have certain medical conditions, it can be prescribed |
| 02:09.33 | DuTempete | which means no |
| 02:10.06 | Kirkburn | I think there's a place that prescribes it across from Wikia, or at least that's the impression I got |
| 02:10.14 | DuTempete | hehe |
| 02:10.56 | DuTempete | Sadly, I can't have anything to do with it, due to my profession. |
| 02:11.44 | DuTempete | I shouldn't even be involved in anti-drug war activities |
| 02:11.52 | Sky2042 | hihi |
| 02:11.55 | DuTempete | sup Sky |
| 02:12.11 | Sky2042 | that's a rhetorical question in this case, isn't it? |
| 02:12.13 | Sky2042 | :P |
| 02:12.36 | DuTempete | normally, yes, but you're welcome to reply. =P |
| 02:13.52 | Sky2042 | well, that might be true. |
| 02:13.54 | Sky2042 | :P |
| 02:13.55 | DuTempete | hehe |
| 02:14.10 | DuTempete | ok, I'm going afkish |
| 02:17.44 | Kirkburn | silly people |
| 02:17.49 | Kirkburn | Everyone knows it's falling. |
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| 02:21.04 | Sky2042 | LOL |
| 02:25.49 | Kirkburn | Y'know I'm pretty sure there's no need to delete redirects |
| 02:26.25 | Sky2042 | eh |
| 02:26.38 | Sky2042 | keeps the wiki cleaner? >.> |
| 02:27.12 | pcj | we should have a "Beautify the Wiki" day where we all go around and delete redirects |
| 02:27.55 | Kirkburn | Cleaner how? |
| 02:28.08 | Kirkburn | They don't appear on search results |
| 02:28.23 | Kirkburn | I mean, obviously remove dubious ones |
| 02:29.25 | Kirkburn | pcj, I'm all for beautifying the wiki ^^ |
| 02:29.28 | Kirkburn | Godammit |
| 02:32.06 | Sky2042 | lol |
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| 02:54.39 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Kirkburn/Dev3 |
| 02:54.51 | Kirkburn | Plus I've done and end of Blizzcon thing for the MP |
| 02:55.40 | piu | you're still missing a close quote |
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| 02:59.42 | Kirkburn | Where? |
| 03:00.07 | piu | mind if I edit? |
| 03:01.39 | Kirkburn | by all means |
| 03:02.10 | piu | it only bugs Safari, FireFox doesn't show a difference |
| 03:02.57 | piu | fixd btw |
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| 03:03.45 | Zarnks | Hey |
| 03:03.51 | Kirkburn | Ah that again |
| 03:03.54 | Kirkburn | Hey Zarnks |
| 03:03.56 | Zarnks | Hey |
| 03:04.06 | Zarnks | Whats the deal with Wowwiki and Scrolls of lore? |
| 03:05.07 | Sky2042 | just some bad blood |
| 03:05.07 | Zarnks | Ah |
| 03:05.07 | Sky2042 | other than that, not much |
| 03:05.28 | Zarnks | I was reading about the Theory of Ula-tek being an old god. |
| 03:05.46 | Zarnks | This is just my opinion but I disagree with the idea that she is an old god. |
| 03:06.39 | Kirkburn | That doesn't mean it's not valid speculation :P |
| 03:07.09 | Zarnks | The biggest thing is that the Amani empire who worships Ula-tek defeated the Quirajii empire servants of the old gods. |
| 03:07.53 | Kirkburn | Fixed something stupid - |
| 03:07.53 | Kirkburn | [[Category:Lore Characters]] |
| 03:07.55 | Kirkburn | Argh |
| 03:08.00 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowwiki.com/Ula-tek |
| 03:08.03 | Zarnks | Not saying we should get rid of it but the Loa gods aren't evil unlike the old gods. |
| 03:08.09 | Sky2042 | its the old gods. they're allowed to do whatever they want in their machinations, so long as they bring the world into chaos. :) |
| 03:08.17 | Kirkburn | I swear, keyboards deliberately mess with me |
| 03:09.19 | Zarnks | Besides I think Ula-tek would be much more powerful if she was an old god. |
| 03:09.29 | Sky2042 | the snake hmm |
| 03:09.51 | Kirkburn | Adys, thoughts? http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Kirkburn/Dev3 |
| 03:10.11 | Kirkburn | Need to sort out the ad thing first, of course |
| 03:10.15 | Adys | you know what i think about that featured media :P |
| 03:10.20 | Bleeter | gah, where's baggins when I wanna ask a tricky lore question |
| 03:10.28 | Sky2042 | bleeter: shoot |
| 03:10.30 | Sky2042 | :) |
| 03:10.35 | Adys | So why a Warcraft wiki? [...] = yank |
| 03:10.36 | Zarnks | Wonder what the logic behind Deathknights is? |
| 03:10.37 | Adys | rest is cool |
| 03:10.39 | Sky2042 | betcha one of us can answer |
| 03:10.52 | Kirkburn | oops, fixed the media |
| 03:10.53 | Bleeter | Lylandor... male Alliance WSG battle master... doesn't say much. |
| 03:11.02 | Bleeter | well, it's speculation.. but... |
| 03:11.25 | Bleeter | if I were a male, and join the silverwing sentinels, I'd be pretty happy... but if I got sent to Shat to be a battle master, I don't think I'd say much |
| 03:11.37 | Kirkburn | Next up, new FA |
| 03:11.41 | Bleeter | ok, so I'm being silly! :P |
| 03:11.49 | Kirkburn | Deathwing is next on the list :) |
| 03:11.54 | Zarnks | The sentinels are all female aren't they. |
| 03:12.10 | Bleeter | 'cept for this one |
| 03:12.24 | Kirkburn | Adys, seems fair |
| 03:12.29 | Kirkburn | Will move to About |
| 03:12.33 | Zarnks | Well they were until recently, same with the cenarion circle. |
| 03:12.42 | Bleeter | tho, hmm, he's not actually showing as Silverwing faction |
| 03:13.13 | Bleeter | mind you, no battle master indicates a faction in their tooltip to me (tho that could be some mod fudging, I guess) |
| 03:13.48 | Bleeter | anyways, was wondering why all the sentinels are sheilas |
| 03:13.58 | Bleeter | (lylandor aside) |
| 03:14.46 | Zarnks | I can't see Tauren,gnome,night elf,or darkspear deathknights. |
| 03:15.15 | Zarnks | Not that they can't be bad but how would they learn to be paladins and fall |
| 03:15.29 | Zarnks | Gnomes are atheists I can't see them being death knights either. |
| 03:15.38 | Zarnks | Even orc deathknights are wierd. |
| 03:16.23 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Kirkburn/Dev3 updated |
| 03:17.52 | Bibi | ugly. |
| 03:18.14 | Sky2042 | deathwing! |
| 03:18.17 | Sky2042 | wooo |
| 03:18.33 | Kelstormhoof | so are DKs gonna have deathcoil? |
| 03:18.54 | Zarnks | Not known yet |
| 03:19.05 | Kelstormhoof | and animate dead |
| 03:19.13 | Sky2042 | bet they will though (@deathcoil) |
| 03:19.16 | Zarnks | Animate dead is seen in the trailer |
| 03:19.37 | Zarnks | You see a death knight creating a ghoul from a corpse to attack a horde town |
| 03:19.41 | Kelstormhoof | hell yea |
| 03:20.05 | Kelstormhoof | invulnerable mass of undead ftw |
| 03:20.46 | Zarnks | 2:19 in this trailer. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WF_1Pk_4UZk |
| 03:20.58 | Kelstormhoof | o |
| 03:21.11 | Zarnks | The spell is called army of the dead. |
| 03:21.26 | Kelstormhoof | ah |
| 03:21.51 | Kelstormhoof | anyone know how this "runes" thing will work |
| 03:22.00 | Sky2042 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Runes |
| 03:22.00 | Kirkburn | They may have something *similar* to Deathcoil, but I doubt they will have the same spell as warlocks |
| 03:22.11 | AFKDuTempete | better not... |
| 03:22.13 | Zarnks | a |
| 03:22.37 | piu | AOE deathcoil, of course |
| 03:22.40 | Kelstormhoof | yep |
| 03:22.41 | Zarnks | I can see Human,Dwarf,Draenei,blood elf and forsaken deathknights however. |
| 03:22.42 | AFKDuTempete | I'll throw a temper tantrum if they get the same spells as warlocks |
| 03:22.50 | Kelstormhoof | warrior/warlock combo |
| 03:22.55 | Zarnks | wonder what their mount will be. |
| 03:22.56 | Sky2042 | they'll get many of them DT |
| 03:22.57 | Kirkburn | Does the advert show on the MP any more btw? |
| 03:23.00 | AFKDuTempete | I'm aware of that |
| 03:23.03 | Kelstormhoof | or better yet warlocks in plate lol |
| 03:23.13 | Sky2042 | deathcoil's been the the DK's move since war2 :P |
| 03:23.21 | AFKDuTempete | blah |
| 03:23.23 | Kirkburn | But not since WoW ;) |
| 03:23.28 | AFKDuTempete | hehe |
| 03:23.42 | Zarnks | The warcraft 2 deathknights were spellcasters rather then fighters. |
| 03:23.55 | piu | they'll call it, uuhhh... necrospiral |
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| 03:24.07 | AFKDuTempete | lol |
| 03:24.18 | Sky2042 | yes, we know zarnks. but the death knights of war3 were fighters ;P |
| 03:24.34 | Zarnks | I'm aware they were different classes. |
| 03:24.45 | Sky2042 | sorta |
| 03:24.51 | Zarnks | Their mounts were different too. |
| 03:24.52 | Sky2042 | there are similarities |
| 03:25.04 | Sky2042 | mounts were actually both undead horsies |
| 03:25.13 | Zarnks | The warcraft 2 death knights had mounts with flesh |
| 03:25.16 | Sky2042 | both were undead. both had death coil. |
| 03:25.19 | Zarnks | except for the head |
| 03:25.25 | piu | a real deathocoil is when a spring in your mattress breaks and sticks you in the spine |
| 03:25.29 | Sky2042 | the manual wasn't with flesh... |
| 03:25.31 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 03:26.37 | Zarnks | Every part of their horse was fleshy except the head. http://www.wowwiki.com/images/d/d5/Death_Knight_%26_Skeletons.jpg |
| 03:26.40 | Sky2042 | oh, no, you are correct |
| 03:27.18 | Zarnks | why did they put their spirits in the bodies of dead humans why not orcs or better yet draenor giants. |
| 03:27.39 | Sky2042 | that is a question to be answered |
| 03:28.13 | Zarnks | They are more of a warlock hero class then a death knight. |
| 03:28.59 | Zarnks | All but one of the scourge's death knights are alive. |
| 03:30.17 | Zarnks | Marduk blackpool is the only scourge deathknigh who is actually undead. |
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| 03:33.11 | piu | I'm sure more hero classes will be added that look like other classes |
| 03:33.16 | piu | I'm waiting on battlemage |
| 03:33.24 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Featured_article/Gallery |
| 03:33.30 | Sky2042 | bah@battlemage |
| 03:33.33 | Sky2042 | archmage ftw |
| 03:33.41 | Bibi | http://wowdigger.com/creature/view/100008/oweiru |
| 03:33.42 | Zarnks | I'm hoping for the blademaster. |
| 03:33.42 | Bibi | oh em gee ! |
| 03:33.53 | Bibi | Looks real to me ! |
| 03:33.57 | Zarnks | I hope its Horde exclusive. Alliance can get the mountain king |
| 03:34.03 | kelstormhoof2 | hell yea MK |
| 03:34.31 | kelstormhoof2 | my favorite hero from W3 |
| 03:34.55 | Zarnks | They should keep some Faction exclusive hero classes. |
| 03:35.34 | Zarnks | A night elf blademaster or darkspear mountain king would be silly. |
| 03:35.44 | kelstormhoof2 | why |
| 03:37.20 | Zarnks | How would a night elf learn to be a blademaster or a troll a mountain king. The system of orcish honor and warriors is exclusive to the Horde. |
| 03:37.26 | piu | blizz has learned their lesson about faction-specific classes |
| 03:37.44 | Zarnks | This isn't a class just a hero class |
| 03:38.17 | piu | but it's the whining on the pvp forums that matters |
| 03:38.23 | kelstormhoof2 | yea haha |
| 03:38.40 | Zarnks | At worst they should an alternative with a different name and looks. |
| 03:38.45 | kelstormhoof2 | i can just see it now "Nerf DK DC!" |
| 03:38.48 | piu | but they can still make classes that are identical except in names |
| 03:39.05 | Zarnks | Draenei shamans and blood elf paladins were shameful. |
| 03:39.24 | piu | they tried a little bit to distinguish them |
| 03:39.34 | kelstormhoof2 | well it evened the classes across factions |
| 03:39.38 | piu | draenei get their space totems |
| 03:39.50 | kelstormhoof2 | i never really cared much for lore |
| 03:39.58 | Zarnks | The lore for Blood elf paladins and draenei shamans was certainly below average. |
| 03:40.08 | Zarnks | Draenei don't fit as shamans at all. |
| 03:40.25 | piu | I think it was a late decision in the expansion planning |
| 03:40.30 | Zarnks | I'd be okay with broken shaman but not regular draenei. |
| 03:40.35 | piu | more for game balance |
| 03:40.36 | Zarnks | Obviously |
| 03:40.42 | kelstormhoof2 | whens the expansion supposed to be coming out btw |
| 03:40.46 | piu | same with 25 man instances |
| 03:41.09 | Bleeter | kelstormhoof2: there's no announced date, afaik |
| 03:41.13 | kelstormhoof2 | o |
| 03:41.28 | kelstormhoof2 | do u have any idea of when though |
| 03:41.31 | Sky2042 | general thought at blizz (I heard) was 09 |
| 03:41.35 | Sky2042 | blizzcon* |
| 03:41.37 | kelstormhoof2 | o |
| 03:42.28 | Bleeter | meh, I suspect any date floating around is way later than what they hope, so they don't get the delay moaners like they did with BC |
| 03:42.55 | Zarnks | The blademaster would pretty much be a warrior with the ability to turn invisible,create mirror images and maybe use bladestorm. |
| 03:43.18 | Zarnks | The Alliance counterpart the mountain king would also have great abilities so it would be equal. |
| 03:43.24 | kelstormhoof2 | more like a rogue with a 2hander |
| 03:43.31 | kelstormhoof2 | i imagine |
| 03:44.00 | Sky2042 | i can see there being a tauren mk |
| 03:44.06 | Sky2042 | and an orc mk |
| 03:44.35 | Zarnks | They would still have warrior abilites and plate. They wouldn't use rogue abilities as Blademasters value honor above all else. |
| 03:44.53 | QuantumDelta | If blizz stay on target WoTLK will be mid-late 08 |
| 03:45.01 | QuantumDelta | afk :p |
| 03:45.17 | Zarnks | They'd wear flags for identification and beads for identification. |
| 03:45.24 | Zarnks | That would be awesome |
| 03:45.32 | Bleeter | QuantumDelta: that sounds vaguely like a reasonable estimate ;) |
| 03:46.06 | Bleeter | given they've got 'something' up and running right now... 09 just sounds like they haven't even started ;) |
| 03:46.11 | Zarnks | Trolls hunters should be able to become beserkers and change their appearance. |
| 03:46.29 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#Main_Page_revamp_continued |
| 03:46.54 | Sky2042 | do you realize they announced TBC at 2005 blizzcon, right? |
| 03:46.59 | Sky2042 | it wasn't out until early 07 |
| 03:47.01 | Sky2042 | ;P |
| 03:47.24 | kelstormhoof2 | i just think that there arent any more unique classes u can make |
| 03:47.41 | kelstormhoof2 | all the roles can be filled by multiple classes |
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| 03:47.57 | Sky2042 | so then you start making hybrids... that are better than the originals ;P |
| 03:48.15 | Sky2042 | or you duplicate the originals, only stronger |
| 03:48.18 | piu | it's probably more for prestige |
| 03:49.07 | piu | people would stop playing their normal chars |
| 03:49.32 | MatthewS | yawn |
| 03:49.45 | kelstormhoof2 | new classes would just be more of the same |
| 03:50.22 | kelstormhoof2 | good thing hero classes will start out level 50+ or something |
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| 03:50.50 | Kirkburn | MatthewS! |
| 03:51.04 | Kirkburn | poke |
| 03:52.16 | Sky2042_ | its that time isn't it |
| 03:52.20 | Sky2042_ | or in another hour? |
| 03:52.40 | Kirkburn | lol, totally forgot about that |
| 03:53.01 | Kirkburn | I think that's another 2 houra |
| 03:53.07 | Kirkburn | *hours |
| 03:53.13 | Sky2042_ | lol |
| 03:53.38 | Sky2042_ | hmm |
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| 03:54.57 | Sky2042_ | lol, i thought that might happen |
| 03:56.05 | Zarnks | What hero classes do you want Sky? |
| 03:59.57 | Sky2042_ | good question. sorcerer/archmage/wizard. hell, guardian (as in tirisfal) would be sweet |
| 04:00.23 | MatthewS | 2 hours |
| 04:00.26 | Zarnks | Archmage would a good mage hero class. |
| 04:00.26 | MatthewS | im still in dire need of coffee |
| 04:00.42 | Sky2042_ | what time is it where you're at? |
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| 04:00.55 | Zarnks | I want Far seer,blademaster,beastmaster,cheiftain,and shadow hunter |
| 04:00.56 | kelstormhoof2 | well isnt a mage everything an archmage is |
| 04:01.05 | Sky2042_ | an archmage is more ;) |
| 04:01.11 | kelstormhoof2 | how |
| 04:01.33 | Sky2042_ | archmagi have far greater powers, different abilities, yada yada yada |
| 04:01.37 | kelstormhoof2 | lol |
| 04:01.45 | pcj | oh you mean a warlock |
| 04:01.45 | piu | more summons |
| 04:01.49 | Sky2042_ | LOL |
| 04:01.52 | Sky2042_ | damn you pcj |
| 04:01.55 | Zarnks | They can ride a mount at all times |
| 04:01.55 | Sky2042_ | :P |
| 04:02.00 | Sky2042_ | lol, truth |
| 04:02.21 | kelstormhoof2 | i want 2hander totems for tauren warriors |
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| 04:02.30 | piu | they can fly and shot lazers, and conjure cheese steak |
| 04:03.07 | Sky2042_ | them including real totems would be sweet |
| 04:03.20 | pcj | crusader totem would be nice |
| 04:03.54 | Zarnks | They are already in the game just unusable. |
| 04:08.23 | kelstormhoof2 | yea damn blizz |
| 04:08.39 | kelstormhoof2 | i wanted to be like a tauren chieftain |
| 04:11.45 | Kirkburn | I'm going to have to go offline during the impending upgrade |
| 04:11.48 | Zarnks | Cairne bloodhoof wields a totem and there is a empty totem shop in thunderbluff. |
| 04:13.37 | kelstormhoof2 | ah |
| 04:14.47 | Kirkburn | (Since I'm living with one of the guys helping with the upgrade, and there's only one access port) |
| 04:24.16 | Kirkburn | Zarnks, a quick question - would you like to be able to edit the wiki again? I know none of your edits were made maliciously |
| 04:24.30 | Zarnks | Well yeah |
| 04:24.40 | Kirkburn | Basically, if I was to unblock you, I would need assurance that you have learned why you got blocked :) |
| 04:25.04 | Zarnks | I got blocked because I annoyed Raze and Baggins and didn't properly cite. |
| 04:25.23 | Kirkburn | (And removing citations) |
| 04:25.53 | Zarnks | When was that? I probably did it but I can you jog my memory a bit. |
| 04:26.42 | Kirkburn | Agh, can't remember |
| 04:26.54 | Zarnks | The Earthen ring I know I screwed up there. |
| 04:27.03 | Zarnks | I did revert my edits though. |
| 04:27.48 | Kirkburn | Okay, i will unblock you on probation |
| 04:28.01 | Zarnks | I'd better be careful this time. |
| 04:28.09 | Sky2042 | yeah |
| 04:28.14 | Zarnks | I'll remember to discuss it on the talk pages first. |
| 04:28.28 | Kirkburn | Thanks :) |
| 04:28.35 | Kirkburn | Right, I'm going offline |
| 04:28.37 | Sky2042 | and not edit until it's decided ;) you discuss just fine (even if you are biased... a lot :P ) |
| 04:28.40 | Kirkburn | Probably won't be back tonight! |
| 04:29.03 | Zarnks | Well yeah I'm biased but I try to write neutrally in the pages. |
| 04:29.37 | Sky2042 | kirkburn |
| 04:29.44 | Sky2042 | we have an idiot :( |
| 04:29.48 | Sky2042 | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=The_legend_of_Gilgamesh&curid=120320&diff=811507&oldid=811506&rcid=728388 |
| 04:29.53 | Sky2042 | check the talk too |
| 04:30.12 | Sky2042 | i don't wanna say block him, but then, he's being really silly. |
| 04:31.01 | Kirkburn | Can't deal with atm, have to leave |
| 04:31.10 | Sky2042 | bah, fine |
| 04:31.12 | Sky2042 | adys |
| 04:31.28 | Adys | mm |
| 04:31.43 | Kirkburn | Byeee |
| 04:31.44 | Sky2042 | see above |
| 04:32.15 | Adys | hold on |
| 04:32.26 | Sky2042 | ok |
| 04:32.34 | Sky2042 | just want an admin to deal with it >_< |
| 04:37.09 | Zarnks | I was thinking maybe they should have death knights start out unfriendly with Thunderbluff,Darnaseus,Exodar,and Orgimmar. Being neutral with undercity,Ironforge,Stormwind,and Silvermoon |
| 04:38.22 | piu | night all |
| 04:38.26 | Adys | gn piu |
| 04:38.31 | Zarnks | see ya |
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| 04:43.52 | Sky2042 | jebus adys, halp |
| 04:44.28 | Adys | busy :( |
| 04:44.38 | Sky2042 | ack |
| 04:49.09 | Sky2042 | tekkub, can you take 5 sec out of your day and block him for a day at least? |
| 04:49.11 | Sky2042 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Contributions/Jabuti |
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| 04:51.26 | Tekkub | I ain't touching that with a 40-foot dildo |
| 04:52.24 | Sky2042 | then touch it with a 41 foot dildo |
| 04:58.20 | AFKDuTempete | woah... somebody said dildo... |
| 04:58.51 | Sky2042 | you have that on your list of pinging words, don't you? |
| 04:58.56 | Sky2042 | :P |
| 04:58.59 | AFKDuTempete | hehe |
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| 04:59.06 | AFKDuTempete | might be... |
| 05:00.09 | AFKDuTempete | *sigh* Prude. |
| 05:01.02 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 05:01.39 | AFKDuTempete | lol... at least that guy is funny, Sky. |
| 05:03.30 | Sky2042 | cause he's an idiot? |
| 05:03.35 | Sky2042 | people like him exasperate me |
| 05:03.37 | Sky2042 | !jobqueue |
| 05:03.40 | [NewsBot] | The www.wowwiki.com job queue length is currently 580 |
| 05:03.43 | AFKDuTempete | I'm not saying he's smart, but it's funny ;) |
| 05:05.11 | DuTempete | Anyway, I wasn't the one who said dildo... Tekkub did. |
| 05:05.41 | Sky2042 | i know |
| 05:05.44 | Sky2042 | :P |
| 05:09.45 | Sky2042 | !jobqueue |
| 05:09.47 | [NewsBot] | The www.wowwiki.com job queue length is currently 452 |
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| 05:38.22 | Zurr | is an admin there? |
| 05:38.42 | AFKDuTempete | nope, they've all abandoned us. |
| 05:38.51 | AFKDuTempete | It's anarchy, now. |
| 05:38.58 | MatthewS | i heard admins sleep, but i dont believe it |
| 05:39.26 | Zurr | that Jabuti is a massive nuisance |
| 05:39.56 | Sky2042 | matthews, you've got adminship don't you? |
| 05:39.58 | Sky2042 | on wowwiki |
| 05:40.24 | MatthewS | i might.. |
| 05:40.35 | MatthewS | btw, upgrade in 20 minutes |
| 05:41.36 | Sky2042 | can you block http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Contributions/Jabuti for us. at least a day. please? |
| 05:42.45 | MatthewS | done |
| 05:43.09 | Sky2042 | ty |
| 05:43.17 | AFKDuTempete | happy, now, Sky? |
| 05:43.22 | Zurr | he just removed that NPOV tag i put on that page |
| 05:43.34 | Sky2042 | yes dutempete |
| 05:43.41 | Sky2042 | i'll kirkburn in the morning about increasing it |
| 05:43.50 | Sky2042 | bug* |
| 05:44.13 | Sky2042 | zurr, he's been being an idiot all night |
| 05:44.17 | Sky2042 | look at it now |
| 05:44.24 | Sky2042 | nicely presented, no? |
| 05:45.19 | Zurr | much better presented, but i'd be happier if it was deleted |
| 05:46.45 | Sky2042 | me too |
| 05:47.03 | Sky2042 | but, kirkburn can decide when he gets back on tomorrow |
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| 05:59.42 | MatthewS | site is going readonly in 2 minutes |
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| 06:01.07 | Sky2042 | leave a note on the vp for everyone else, please? |
| 06:03.28 | Fisker- | http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/winrarofbags.jpg |
| 06:03.29 | Fisker- | fucking win |
| 06:03.44 | MatthewS | kirk put up a note earlier |
| 06:04.26 | Sky2042 | Fisker-: whot? |
| 06:04.54 | Fisker- | look at the bags |
| 06:05.25 | Sky2042 | other than the pots and pots and pots? |
| 06:05.58 | Zurr | 2240g |
| 06:06.01 | Sky2042 | oh jesus |
| 06:06.04 | Sky2042 | nah |
| 06:06.06 | Sky2042 | that's nothing |
| 06:06.42 | Sky2042 | he's baaaaack |
| 06:07.07 | Sky2042 | when's that readonly comin? |
| 06:07.12 | MatthewS | already done |
| 06:07.16 | MatthewS | he snuck in before i hit it |
| 06:07.33 | Sky2042 | oh good |
| 06:07.46 | Sky2042 | ya wanna ban him again for us? :] |
| 06:07.53 | MatthewS | not right now, site is read-only :) |
| 06:08.00 | MatthewS | and the upgrade is currently running |
| 06:08.17 | Sky2042 | ah |
| 06:08.23 | Sky2042 | completely readonly |
| 06:08.25 | Sky2042 | okies |
| 06:10.19 | Fisker- | Sky2042 you idiot |
| 06:10.21 | Fisker- | THE BAGS |
| 06:10.22 | Fisker- | :P |
| 06:10.25 | Fisker- | not the contents |
| 06:10.31 | Fisker- | it's 11 20-slot bags :P |
| 06:10.45 | Sky2042 | that's nice. I didn't know that, seeing as i haven't played wow since december |
| 06:10.47 | Sky2042 | -_- |
| 06:11.27 | Fisker- | also got 30 flasks |
| 06:11.32 | Fisker- | 300 elixirs |
| 06:11.59 | Fisker- | like 100 charges of mana oil |
| 06:19.42 | Sky2042 | hey, matthews, about how long is this gonna be? we lookin at an hour total or so? |
| 06:25.11 | MatthewS | currently looking at another 30 or less |
| 06:25.21 | Sky2042 | cool |
| 06:30.51 | Sky2042 | i presume this is 1.10.1? |
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| 06:32.52 | N1f7y | Lot's o' people. =0 |
| 06:33.08 | Sky2042 | yup, nifty |
| 06:33.25 | N1f7y | Wowzers. |
| 06:34.12 | N1f7y | Heh. Not to talkitive, are we? =/ |
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| 06:34.24 | N1f7y | Hillo. ^^ |
| 06:34.56 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 06:35.01 | Sky2042 | talkative? wrong time of the day |
| 06:35.21 | N1f7y | Ekk, I guess so. =P |
| 06:35.38 | Sky2042 | its 11:30 pm on west coast of the US, and later moving east. there are a couple time zones in europe which stll haven't woken up yet |
| 06:36.22 | N1f7y | It's 2:26 PM over here's. ="] |
| 06:36.43 | Sky2042 | er... where do you live? |
| 06:36.49 | Sky2042 | aussieland? |
| 06:36.59 | N1f7y | Uh...no. |
| 06:37.13 | Sky2042 | you ment 2:26 am then? |
| 06:37.19 | N1f7y | Nope. |
| 06:37.23 | Sky2042 | o_0 |
| 06:37.28 | Sky2042 | where do you live, the middle of india? |
| 06:37.39 | N1f7y | No... |
| 06:37.46 | Sky2042 | then where? |
| 06:38.07 | N1f7y | >< |
| 06:38.15 | N1f7y | My clocks a bit fast... >< |
| 06:39.07 | N1f7y | I live in Florida. =. |
| 06:39.57 | Sky2042 | then it is am |
| 06:40.02 | Sky2042 | :P |
| 06:40.07 | Sky2042 | 2:40 am, atm |
| 06:40.09 | Sky2042 | in fl |
| 06:40.34 | Bleeter | 16:40 here in Aussieland ;) |
| 06:40.49 | Nifty | Lol. >< |
| 06:40.58 | Nifty | I feel stupid. ="] |
| 06:41.16 | Fisker- | btw MatthewS |
| 06:41.23 | Fisker- | what changes can one expect to see? |
| 06:41.36 | MatthewS | 1.9.3->1.10.1 |
| 06:41.45 | MatthewS | and...new skin |
| 06:42.04 | Sky2042 | i hope it wasn't the wowwiki skin you killed... |
| 06:42.08 | Sky2042 | i would be sad |
| 06:42.09 | Fisker- | got any link where i can read the difference? :P |
| 06:42.19 | Sky2042 | from 1.9.3 to 1.10.1? |
| 06:42.26 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 06:42.32 | Sky2042 | http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/tags/REL1_10_1/phase3/RELEASE-NOTES |
| 06:42.35 | Sky2042 | :] |
| 06:42.43 | Sky2042 | i'm about 1/3 of the way down. |
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| 06:43.05 | Yaki | Hey, everyone. |
| 06:43.08 | Sky2042 | hihi |
| 06:43.25 | Yaki | When's the maintanence going to be finished? |
| 06:43.34 | Fisker- | well everything just seem to be bugfixes |
| 06:43.42 | Sky2042 | yeah... sorta |
| 06:43.48 | Sky2042 | about 15 minutes yaki |
| 06:43.55 | Sky2042 | or so we were told. |
| 06:44.26 | Yaki | guh-reat. Gots some vandals to add to the suspect list. |
| 06:44.34 | Yaki | This Gilgamesh thing is insanely out of control. |
| 06:44.41 | Sky2042 | yes yaki, we know |
| 06:44.59 | MatthewS | yaki: we're trying to schedule for within another 15 minutes |
| 06:45.01 | Sky2042 | jutari got blocked, and now we've got another to deal with. |
| 06:45.09 | Sky2042 | his sockpuppet, no doubt |
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| 06:46.26 | Yaki | Lolgilgamesh is a new one |
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| 06:46.42 | N1f7y | Hillo. =] |
| 06:46.42 | Yaki | Just reverted it to a bastardization between the first Gilgamesh and my version. |
| 06:46.48 | N1f7y | =0 |
| 06:46.59 | N1f7y | Watch your mouth, mister. |
| 06:48.02 | Yaki | It's... not... really swearing. |
| 06:48.31 | N1f7y | Meh. |
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| 06:55.49 | Sky2042 | fisker-: doesn't look like there's a -whole- lot different. |
| 06:56.01 | Sky2042 | red links are redder |
| 06:56.36 | Fisker- | it's red links are reeeeeeeed |
| 07:00.08 | MatthewS | the maintenance is going to run over for a few more minutes |
| 07:00.18 | MatthewS | the upgrade is done. but we are testing some issues |
| 07:00.27 | MatthewS | so things should remain readonly until they are done |
| 07:01.00 | Inez | yup |
| 07:01.18 | Sky2042 | coolcool |
| 07:01.33 | Fisker- | that's not even a word |
| 07:01.54 | Sky2042 | l2p,nublol |
| 07:02.21 | Fisker- | that's more like it |
| 07:02.29 | Sky2042 | tytytyvm |
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| 07:02.55 | Zarnks | Hey |
| 07:02.59 | Sky2042 | hihi |
| 07:03.32 | Zarnks | Man I just read the stupidist thing ever. |
| 07:04.01 | Zarnks | http://terranova.blogs.com/terra_nova/2005/12/the_horde_is_ev.html |
| 07:04.19 | Zarnks | This is ripe with inaccuracies and the guy calls himself a proffesor! |
| 07:04.39 | Zarnks | I mean listen to this "The Tauren are corrupted beasts " |
| 07:05.09 | Zarnks | Makes you wish these kinds of people would the manual,quest text or the intro. |
| 07:05.26 | Sky2042 | The human race is the only one with children, and charitable giving, for example. |
| 07:05.42 | Zarnks | Orc orphanage |
| 07:05.43 | Sky2042 | i'm fairly certain he hasn't read rise of the horde |
| 07:06.22 | Zarnks | He hasn't even read the manual from what I gather |
| 07:07.02 | Sky2042 | excuse me |
| 07:07.23 | Zarnks | I mean whats next saying Dwarves,draenei,are evil because beards and tentacles are evil |
| 07:08.24 | Yaki | What? Is it a Jack Thompson ripoff? |
| 07:08.55 | Zarnks | Some guy who proffesor who wrote this long wall of text on how Horde is evil and so are the people that play them. |
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| 07:13.04 | Zarnks | Hey Baggs |
| 07:13.06 | Yaki | Wow. |
| 07:13.14 | Yaki | That article is pretty hilarious. |
| 07:13.16 | Bagginsww | aloha |
| 07:13.24 | Yaki | Yo, Baggins. |
| 07:13.26 | Sky2042 | the article in question is almost two years old :P |
| 07:13.29 | Zarnks | You in hawaii Baggs. |
| 07:13.37 | Bagginsww | ya |
| 07:13.45 | Zarnks | Thats cool |
| 07:13.49 | Bagginsww | tranferring to UH Hilo |
| 07:14.06 | Bagginsww | if I get disconnected its because I'm leeching off a bad connection :p |
| 07:14.32 | Zarnks | Hey are they ever going to have a rpg book that goes into the history of the faceless ones. |
| 07:14.44 | Bagginsww | I don't get my own internet until like 14th or so |
| 07:14.52 | Bagginsww | zarnks rumor has it the next book |
| 07:14.56 | Zarnks | I want to know whats up with those guys. |
| 07:15.01 | Bagginsww | dark factions |
| 07:15.21 | Zarnks | If they are servants of the olds gods why would they fight the Nerubians. unless they serve opposing old gods |
| 07:15.24 | Bagginsww | course Wrath of the Lich King might give us more info :) |
| 07:15.37 | Bagginsww | I think you hit it on the nail |
| 07:16.38 | Zarnks | Wonder how death knights get into the Horde and Alliance |
| 07:16.49 | Bagginsww | opposing old gods |
| 07:16.49 | Bagginsww | ever wondered why the elements battle each other? I think they continueing a rivalry that existed since they were old gods minions. |
| 07:16.51 | Bagginsww | its loosely hinted at in the rpg, but never specifically |
| 07:16.58 | Zarnks | I'm betting you lose a reputation bar when you play as one. |
| 07:17.24 | Bagginsww | well one thing Its a seperate character |
| 07:17.27 | Zarnks | They united to fight the titans but overall I get the impression they never really liked each other |
| 07:17.29 | Bagginsww | it doesn't replace your previous |
| 07:17.59 | Zarnks | yeah but you probably start out with lower repuation on your death knight character. |
| 07:18.10 | Bagginsww | if they are anything like the great old ones in lovecraft they probably are at odds |
| 07:18.29 | Bagginsww | I think coolest thing would be is if you got to play as a death knight from scourge pov |
| 07:18.53 | Zarnks | They should have a battleground where the Horde and Alliance fight together against an npc faction |
| 07:19.43 | Bagginsww | so you could get fun quests from arthas telling another aspect of the story |
| 07:19.43 | Bagginsww | something along the lines of monster play in Lord of the Rings online |
| 07:20.00 | Zarnks | They did say you could interact with Arthas. |
| 07:20.18 | Zarnks | That'd be cool. Playing as nerubians,abominations,and the like. |
| 07:20.47 | Bagginsww | think of it you could explore ice crown glacier as its own city? |
| 07:20.47 | Bagginsww | talk to characters inside |
| 07:21.09 | Zarnks | That would be cool but it would require a lot of programing to make a new faction. |
| 07:21.30 | Zarnks | I think there's a long quest line where you fake defecting and can interact with the scourge. |
| 07:22.11 | Zarnks | I'm guessing Arthas body will be destroyed but He'll live and create another one. |
| 07:22.27 | Zarnks | They did say we would kill Arthas but we wouldn't kill Arthas the lich king |
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| 07:29.36 | MatthewS | going to be a quick site interruption shortly |
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| 07:32.15 | Bagginswow | Kind of interesting looking through the rpg seems there are hints that loas may be lesser old gods or old god offspring. There are least two references to Hakkar being an old god or old god offspring as well. |
| 07:32.40 | Sky2042 | bagginswow: is ellen p. kiley the only editor of the rpgs? |
| 07:32.43 | Bagginswow | the relevence being that 5 old gods were like the greater creatures |
| 07:32.53 | Bagginswow | hmm I don't think so |
| 07:32.56 | Bagginswow | I'd have to check |
| 07:32.59 | Sky2042 | can you check MG for me? |
| 07:33.01 | Bagginswow | sure |
| 07:33.07 | Sky2042 | everyone i've looked at has her has the editor |
| 07:33.22 | Yaki | You know... if there are four elemental types... |
| 07:33.25 | Yaki | And five old gods... |
| 07:33.35 | Bagginswow | your lucky I jsut got the MG pdf lol |
| 07:33.40 | Yaki | And its presumable that each elemental type serves 1 Old God... |
| 07:33.40 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 07:33.44 | Sky2042 | yaki, no |
| 07:33.46 | Sky2042 | :P |
| 07:33.47 | Yaki | Who would be the fifth's? |
| 07:33.49 | Yaki | =P |
| 07:34.17 | Yaki | Unless... the fifth would be the dead one and all his servants are dead... that'd reconcile it. |
| 07:34.37 | Bagginswow | yaki good question |
| 07:34.41 | Bagginswow | perhaps the one in outland? |
| 07:34.46 | Bagginswow | sound? |
| 07:35.01 | Bagginswow | or it could be a primal elemental |
| 07:35.11 | Bagginswow | one encompassing all 4 elements |
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| 07:35.43 | Fisker- | booooooooooh |
| 07:35.45 | Fisker- | Dotted |
| 07:35.48 | Bagginswow | which would make the 4 great Old God like a leader of the other old gods? |
| 07:36.13 | Bagginswow | *5th |
| 07:36.30 | Bagginswow | sky editor is Scott Holden |
| 07:36.38 | Bagginswow | managing editor is Stewart Wieck |
| 07:36.56 | Sky2042 | damn. what was the last before mg: hpg/apg? |
| 07:37.30 | Bagginswow | for MG |
| 07:38.30 | Bagginswow | so far we have seen two confirmed old god's the C'thun appearance, and the nautilus one in darkshore. I wonder what the rest look like heh |
| 07:38.30 | Yaki | Yeah, Baggins, I'm not too sure. I haven't ever really been -too- keen on the Old Gods stories. |
| 07:39.05 | Yaki | What's the exact quote in the RPG concerning the Loa/Old Gods speculation? It may have some real merit to it, since it seems Trolls predate Titans |
| 07:39.11 | Yaki | Or atleast, aren't Titan creations. |
| 07:39.30 | Yaki | And therefore, Loa Gods would predate / not be involved with the Titans' empowering of stuff. |
| 07:40.24 | Sky2042 | eh |
| 07:40.25 | Sky2042 | oh well |
| 07:40.28 | Sky2042 | i'm going to bed now |
| 07:40.30 | Sky2042 | nights |
| 07:40.50 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=450665830&postId=4503756379&sid=1#1 |
| 07:41.13 | Fisker- | WTF |
| 07:41.30 | Fisker- | now why would blizzard wordfilter ggg_ |
| 07:41.31 | Fisker- | ? |
| 07:42.00 | Yaki | New ETA on maintanence? |
| 07:42.24 | MatthewS | still working on it |
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| 07:44.41 | MatthewS | can't offer a solid time right now. i would like to say we'll be out of it in 45 minutes but i can't promise that specifically |
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| 07:45.06 | Bagginsw | ahh wowwiki is down? |
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| 07:45.25 | Bagginsw | and I just thought it was because my connection keeps on crashing here LOL |
| 07:50.30 | Yaki | I also think the bandwidth is slowing down |
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| 08:13.22 | laurly | ping adys |
| 08:13.29 | Adys | pong |
| 08:34.05 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/13/azeroth-interrupted-raiders-have-real-lives-too/ |
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| 08:41.59 | laurly | eeeekkkk |
| 08:42.15 | laurly | need to teach the bot about Database locked |
| 08:42.43 | laurly | adys any idea how long we are going to be locked for? |
| 08:43.14 | Adys | its unlocked |
| 08:43.18 | laurly | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Quest:A_Pilgrim%27s_Plight&action=edit |
| 08:43.24 | laurly | im still getting locked |
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| 09:20.54 | MatthewS | site is writeable again |
| 09:26.04 | Bleeter | hax! :P |
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| 10:47.09 | Fisker- | honor and glory, etc. |
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| 11:07.19 | Dotted | and stupid french people |
| 11:11.20 | Fisker- | this is madness |
| 11:28.04 | Boubouille | fu Dotted l2c |
| 11:38.35 | [NewsBot] | MMO Champion: End year events, US downtime, comics - http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=687.0 |
| 11:48.06 | [NewsBot] | GamePolitics: http://gamepolitics.com/2007/08/13/media-backlash-hits-homeland-security-mod-chip-raids/ |
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| 12:04.06 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/13/breakfast-topic-runes-and-hero-classes/ |
| 12:08.05 | [NewsBot] | GamePolitics: http://gamepolitics.com/2007/08/13/silicon-knights-to-epic-our-claim-is-bigger-than-your-claim/ |
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| 12:17.56 | pcj | eww who changed the red links |
| 12:20.45 | Fisker- | wikimedia foundation etc. |
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| 12:21.43 | Yaki | Is WoWWiki severely slow for anyone else? |
| 12:22.06 | pcj | always |
| 12:22.17 | tetsuo86 | yeah |
| 12:22.21 | tetsuo86 | isn't it always through? |
| 12:22.26 | tetsuo86 | Though |
| 12:22.26 | Yaki | Well. |
| 12:22.34 | Yaki | Like, right now, it's moving -really- -really- slow. |
| 12:22.52 | tetsuo86 | I should mirror part of the wiki on my ebsite |
| 12:22.54 | tetsuo86 | hahaha |
| 12:23.51 | pcj | which part |
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| 12:25.22 | Yaki | Who is the actual owner of WoWWiki? |
| 12:25.43 | tetsuo86 | wikia, right? |
| 12:27.32 | amro | wowwiki gets a lot of traffic |
| 12:27.37 | amro | second biggest wiki on wikia |
| 12:27.57 | tetsuo86 | yup |
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| 12:31.40 | ws_ | hey |
| 12:31.48 | ws_ | are there any items apart for pvp trinket to get rid of fear? |
| 12:32.15 | ws_ | as for movement impaired effects there's pvp trinket, free action potion (immunity) and spider belt |
| 12:32.26 | pcj | blacksmithing has a trinket which causes immunity to fear |
| 12:32.45 | ws_ | same cooldown as pvp trinket? |
| 12:32.57 | ws_ | ah, immunity, okay |
| 12:33.19 | ws_ | thank you :-) |
| 12:34.38 | Fisker- | you can just use teleport hax to go out of line of sight |
| 12:36.17 | pcj | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=10418 |
| 12:36.36 | ws_ | thank you :-) |
| 12:37.49 | tetsuo86 | hey, does anyone know what stuff they are doing to the servers for 48 hours? |
| 12:38.59 | pcj | maintenance |
| 12:39.49 | tetsuo86 | 48 hours makes me sad |
| 12:39.51 | tetsuo86 | haha |
| 12:40.41 | laurly | no idea but they are slow................... |
| 12:41.04 | tetsuo86 | yeah. I just wonder what they are doing |
| 12:41.08 | tetsuo86 | I would be interested to know |
| 12:41.50 | tetsuo86 | I would assume they are getting ready for releasing the integrated voice-chat and stuff like that |
| 12:43.19 | pcj | only on 40ish servers? |
| 12:43.24 | tetsuo86 | well if they do that, then they can do another wave next week |
| 12:43.49 | tetsuo86 | that way people can still play on the Blizz servers |
| 12:43.56 | tetsuo86 | just not certain ones |
| 12:44.14 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 12:44.22 | Fisker- | 48 hours is a lot for all realms imo |
| 12:44.29 | Fisker- | where's the news btw? |
| 12:44.44 | tetsuo86 | www.cnn.com |
| 12:44.47 | tetsuo86 | if you're into that kind of thing |
| 12:44.52 | tetsuo86 | otherwise www.fark.com |
| 12:45.45 | Fisker- | for the realms IDIOT |
| 12:45.46 | Fisker- | :P |
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| 12:57.18 | tetsuo86 | BAH! |
| 13:01.42 | pcj | nah |
| 13:02.23 | tetsuo86 | there is some guy on the wowinsider article http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/13/breakfast-topic-runes-and-hero-classes/1#c6690614 flaming about hwo he is tired of Blizzard announcing expansions that are 2 years off |
| 13:02.45 | tetsuo86 | when do you guys think the expansion is coming out? |
| 13:05.02 | pcj | couple of weeks, that's why they're doing maintenance on the servers |
| 13:08.49 | tetsuo86 | hahah |
| 13:09.01 | tetsuo86 | just shows up at Wal-mart...no press release |
| 13:09.28 | tetsuo86 | "Suprise! we released it! We just wanted to avoid the chaos of planned releases" |
| 13:11.22 | ws_ | uhm |
| 13:11.25 | ws_ | I got to buy tbc first |
| 13:11.30 | pcj | lol |
| 13:11.32 | ws_ | unless I can skip leveling 60 to 70 somehow |
| 13:13.18 | Chompers | use voodoo magic |
| 13:15.11 | tetsuo86 | I hear if you rub yourself with drier shweets, you can skip 60-70 |
| 13:15.15 | tetsuo86 | thats how I got to 70 |
| 13:16.48 | Fisker- | april next year |
| 13:16.49 | Fisker- | definitely |
| 13:17.53 | tetsuo86 | thats what I was thinking |
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| 13:18.21 | tetsuo86 | you guys think the beta key from BlizzCOn is for the beta of WotLK? |
| 13:18.47 | KuinKala | i dont care about Wotlk. imo its coming too fast |
| 13:19.00 | KuinKala | (imo) |
| 13:23.28 | tetsuo86 | Blizz said they wqaqnt a new expansion about evert 1.5 years |
| 13:23.37 | tetsuo86 | *want |
| 13:23.45 | KuinKala | nice typo btw :D |
| 13:24.01 | KuinKala | hmmm |
| 13:24.08 | tetsuo86 | well...the q never gets used, so my finger goy hijacked |
| 13:24.17 | tetsuo86 | ...*sigh* |
| 13:24.20 | KuinKala | :D |
| 13:24.21 | KuinKala | heh |
| 13:24.47 | tetsuo86 | my typing is terrible at work. I have a sticky old keyboard and it makes he not care |
| 13:25.02 | tetsuo86 | see, I don't even use the right pronouns |
| 13:25.06 | KuinKala | :) |
| 13:25.32 | KuinKala | damn, too hot :/ i drank almost 3 litres at work, without peeing |
| 13:25.59 | tetsuo86 | where do you live? |
| 13:26.18 | KuinKala | finland |
| 13:26.40 | KuinKala | atm +34 in the sun, its hot for us |
| 13:27.40 | tetsuo86 | yeah. I live in South Dakota...I feel your pain |
| 13:28.10 | KuinKala | heh |
| 13:28.16 | KuinKala | i wait winter so much |
| 13:28.20 | KuinKala | -25'C <3 |
| 13:28.27 | laurly | is wiki slow bot cant do anything... |
| 13:28.50 | pcj | wiki is always slow |
| 13:28.59 | laurly | yeah but this is beond slow |
| 13:29.11 | tetsuo86 | I don't want to replace my motherboard....it is a pain |
| 13:29.20 | KuinKala | lol |
| 13:29.30 | KuinKala | one of easiest things with comps |
| 13:29.49 | tetsuo86 | replacing the motherboard? never |
| 13:29.50 | pcj | uhhh...not one of the easiest |
| 13:29.59 | tetsuo86 | ANYTHING but the motherboard is easy |
| 13:30.00 | KuinKala | installing *nix -serve w/ RAID5 of fuxored |
| 13:30.02 | laurly | as long as the mother bord will fit in your cabnet changing it is easy |
| 13:30.23 | KuinKala | *server |
| 13:30.26 | tetsuo86 | dude, everything about your computer changes when you put in a new mobo |
| 13:30.38 | tetsuo86 | (I think RAID is easy to config) |
| 13:30.54 | KuinKala | depends on distro / HW |
| 13:30.59 | tetsuo86 | true |
| 13:31.05 | KuinKala | and ofc what RAID |
| 13:31.56 | tetsuo86 | I set up a SAN here at work using 10 120GB hard drives. |
| 13:32.12 | tetsuo86 | Went really smooth and it is easy to maintain |
| 13:32.52 | tetsuo86 | I just raided them with block striping |
| 13:34.01 | tetsuo86 | anyway, in my experience, putting in a new mobo is a pain. You get it in and all the sudden your SATA HD's are pissed at you. Your memory doesn't count all the way, and your sound card feels inferior to the on-board audio |
| 13:34.27 | KuinKala | been concidering raid* on my own fileserver, but dont got too much money to spend :/ need to eat also :p |
| 13:35.12 | tetsuo86 | I have a habit of grabbing up old HD's from work and using them at home. I have a webserver that I host off of (for $$$$) |
| 13:35.32 | tetsuo86 | I mean...who has space for pr0n on their personal computer? |
| 13:35.40 | tetsuo86 | that is why God invented networks |
| 13:35.47 | KuinKala | my own server is only for personal use |
| 13:36.16 | KuinKala | only ~500GB space :( |
| 13:37.18 | KuinKala | no need for anything special, only base system, joe -text editor and smb |
| 13:37.24 | KuinKala | and some other little crap |
| 13:38.13 | KuinKala | so, as you can imagine, it contains only <insert illegal word here wich is related to downloading bits from internet> |
| 13:38.43 | Chompers | hentai? |
| 13:38.56 | tetsuo86 | I love hentai |
| 13:38.58 | KuinKala | hentai = FAIL |
| 13:39.00 | KuinKala | :DD |
| 13:39.05 | KuinKala | (imo) |
| 13:39.06 | tetsuo86 | hahah |
| 13:39.14 | tetsuo86 | well I think its hot |
| 13:40.17 | KuinKala | :) |
| 13:40.21 | Chompers | cant beat a bit of tentacle love |
| 13:40.33 | KuinKala | iyh |
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| 13:41.09 | KuinKala | i dont like any oriental cartoons - magna, anime, whatever. KITEKITE HARAKIRI KEKE |
| 13:41.15 | KuinKala | i just cant stand it :D |
| 13:41.31 | KuinKala | but! i confess: i still love Transformers Armada (im 20) |
| 13:45.54 | tetsuo86 | slowWiki is going a bit faster! |
| 13:46.26 | KuinKala | ;o |
| 13:46.39 | KuinKala | i would really love to learn LuA, but got no motivation |
| 13:46.47 | tetsuo86 | it is easy man |
| 13:46.59 | KuinKala | it reminds too much of XML :( |
| 13:47.05 | KuinKala | and i so hate xml |
| 13:56.39 | tetsuo86 | whys that? |
| 13:57.36 | KuinKala | got some traumas from school |
| 13:57.38 | KuinKala | :p |
| 14:04.05 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/13/around-azeroth-duh-nuh-duh-nuh/ |
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| 14:24.30 | Fisker- | lol |Pixel| |
| 14:24.34 | Fisker- | what the hell have you done?` |
| 14:24.51 | deltron | wut now |
| 14:25.07 | Fisker- | almost all of the european realms are flagged as down on the realmstatus |
| 14:25.33 | deltron | oh heh |
| 14:25.45 | Fisker- | O_o |
| 14:25.48 | Fisker- | now they all changed back to up |
| 14:25.54 | Fisker- | besides for a couple |
| 14:27.14 | |Pixel| | that realmstatus application is a piece of crap, to which I don't even have the sourcecode |
| 14:27.28 | |Pixel| | and if I don't, noone else does |
| 14:28.13 | |Pixel| | note that this single java class may crash the whole website if the uplink (to the internal game status db that is) breaks for any reason |
| 14:29.33 | Fisker- | :O |
| 14:30.53 | Dotted | win |
| 14:39.48 | Fisker- | blasphemy |
| 14:40.09 | Fisker- | also madness |
| 15:04.06 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/13/officers-quarters-my-personal-errata/ |
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| 16:03.48 | pcj | the 1.10 upgrade has borked my user JS...i am displeased :( |
| 16:08.07 | [NewsBot] | GamePolitics: http://gamepolitics.com/2007/08/13/gp-on-joystiq-the-mod-squad/ |
| 16:11.14 | pcj | wtf someone needs to take the headers out of http://www.wowwiki.com/MediaWiki:Common.css |
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| 16:35.27 | pcj | slooowiki |
| 16:35.54 | laurly | been that way all day i cant run the bot takes 5 min just to save one page... |
| 16:36.11 | pcj | i blame 1.10 |
| 16:36.46 | laurly | i dont know whats up all i can say is FIX IT! |
| 16:37.11 | laurly | oh yeah and the bot choked on "database locked" :o) |
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| 16:44.07 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/13/wow-moviewatch-lemmings-raid-undercity/ |
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| 16:51.43 | twoshadetod | 42combat rogue - am I shooting myself in the foot grabbing stg over agi at this point? |
| 16:53.56 | tetsuo86 | what is stg? |
| 16:58.40 | twoshadetod | strength |
| 16:58.49 | tetsuo86 | oph...I always said str |
| 16:59.06 | tetsuo86 | anyway...I think so, yes |
| 16:59.34 | tetsuo86 | as a 70 feral druid I think that agi and AP are your greatest allies |
| 17:00.05 | tetsuo86 | I mean...str gives you AP, but you sacrifice a lot of crit% and dodge not taking agi |
| 17:00.25 | twoshadetod | yeah i know agi trickles to AP also but (think) strength attributes more directly to it |
| 17:01.08 | tetsuo86 | yeah, that is what I was saying |
| 17:01.26 | tetsuo86 | but you sacrifice a lot getting str. Most Agi items give AP directly anywayt |
| 17:01.29 | tetsuo86 | -t |
| 17:01.55 | twoshadetod | i wonder what the break down of agi=ap vs strength=ap is |
| 17:02.04 | tetsuo86 | what race are you? |
| 17:02.08 | twoshadetod | human |
| 17:02.14 | tetsuo86 | one sec and I will tell you |
| 17:02.40 | TecnoBrat | wiki is ... slloooow |
| 17:02.41 | TecnoBrat | for me |
| 17:02.55 | tetsuo86 | it isn't called Slowiki for nothing |
| 17:03.27 | twoshadetod | shit ddue |
| 17:03.45 | laurly | TecnoBrat wiki is slow for everyone............ fix it!!! |
| 17:03.50 | twoshadetod | i hope this isn't right, can't be - im reading agi=ap is the same as str=ap |
| 17:03.58 | TecnoBrat | laurly, I'll get right on it! |
| 17:04.04 | laurly | good boy |
| 17:04.08 | TecnoBrat | laurly, I'll keep refreshing |
| 17:04.13 | TecnoBrat | I'll make it deadwiki |
| 17:04.13 | tetsuo86 | I dont' think so |
| 17:04.15 | twoshadetod | for a rogue ....how could that be |
| 17:04.31 | laurly | TecnoBrat tryed that left the bot editing it didnt help :) |
| 17:04.43 | twoshadetod | saying 1agi=1ap (plus all the other stuff) and 1stg=1ap with...nothing else lol |
| 17:04.44 | TecnoBrat | MatthewS! fixxxxie! |
| 17:06.19 | tetsuo86 | oh...haha, I guess that is right |
| 17:06.22 | tetsuo86 | you are killing yourselfd |
| 17:06.35 | tetsuo86 | I thought rogues got 2ap from agi like druids do |
| 17:06.41 | tetsuo86 | (in cat form) |
| 17:08.04 | twoshadetod | lol, so this whole time im getting strength chants and thinking strength is gonna give more ap than the same amount of agi |
| 17:08.16 | tetsuo86 | yeah, you want agi |
| 17:08.36 | twoshadetod | I knew it was sought after just combat so used to pretty steady dmg |
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| 17:09.12 | twoshadetod | time to go grab some agi gear |
| 17:09.26 | tetsuo86 | hahah |
| 17:09.41 | tetsuo86 | as a feral, I use a lot of "rogue" gear, so it shouldn't be hard for you to get |
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| 17:10.52 | twoshadetod | what level is yer drood |
| 17:11.01 | foxlit | grumble grumble, squid is misbehaving |
| 17:12.02 | tetsuo86 | 70 |
| 17:13.11 | tetsuo86 | CRASH |
| 17:13.25 | tetsuo86 | my browser days WoWiki is dying |
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| 17:14.16 | Bagginsww | hey I think I found a mistake in the wowwiki |
| 17:14.18 | Bagginsww | for loas |
| 17:14.33 | Bagginsww | venoxis worships "Hethiss" in the game IIRC |
| 17:14.39 | Bagginsww | not Ula-tek |
| 17:14.49 | Bagginsww | unless they changed things during the later patches? |
| 17:15.11 | Bagginsww | anyone care to fix that? |
| 17:15.14 | tetsuo86 | you can |
| 17:15.26 | Bagginsww | actually can't seem to get into wowwiki today :p |
| 17:15.27 | tetsuo86 | GO FOR IT |
| 17:15.33 | Bagginsww | loading so slowly |
| 17:15.35 | tetsuo86 | well...it isn't working for any of us |
| 17:15.43 | Bagginsww | oh :( |
| 17:15.48 | tetsuo86 | they are working on their server |
| 17:15.50 | tetsuo86 | s |
| 17:15.52 | tetsuo86 | wikia is |
| 17:16.07 | Bagginsww | ok now its telling me wikia error |
| 17:16.18 | tetsuo86 | .......I kno |
| 17:16.20 | Bagginsww | after like 20 minutes of tyring to load, LOL |
| 17:16.26 | tetsuo86 | they are working on their servers |
| 17:18.02 | laurly | been like that all day ............ give up on wiki day |
| 17:19.00 | tetsuo86 | I told them I should mirror it |
| 17:19.03 | tetsuo86 | but nooooooooooooooooooo |
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| 17:38.06 | [NewsBot] | GamePolitics: http://gamepolitics.com/2007/08/13/bogost-political-themes-skinned-onto-some-games/ |
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| 17:38.18 | TecnoBrat | does anyone know the XP to gold conversion for level 70 players? |
| 17:38.25 | TecnoBrat | I thought it was on the wiki somewhere |
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| 17:44.39 | tetsuo86 | I just know I get about 11g from most quests |
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| 17:49.08 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/13/it-came-from-the-blog-stampede-to-stormwind/ |
| 17:58.07 | [NewsBot] | GamePolitics: http://gamepolitics.com/2007/08/13/la-times-to-schwarzenegger-drop-video-game-law-appeal/ |
| 18:04.08 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/13/high-infidelity/ |
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| 18:16.07 | [NewsBot] | Blizzplanet: Wrath of the Lich King Expansion: Dalaran vs. Malygos - http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=1602 |
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| 18:30.01 | Kirkburn | Morning |
| 18:30.43 | Sky2042 | morning |
| 18:31.23 | Kirkburn | How goes? |
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| 18:32.31 | Sky2042 | good |
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| 18:32.37 | Sky2042 | sleep well? |
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| 18:33.41 | Kirkburn | Good thanks, though my housemate spent much time wrestling (and still wrestling) with the wiki |
| 18:33.49 | Sky2042 | heh |
| 18:34.07 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/13/bring-on-the-horizontal-changes-please/ |
| 18:34.45 | Kirkburn | He was sitting up in bed working on it as I left tthis morning |
| 18:35.06 | Kirkburn | He's on the channel too :P Hullo Inez! |
| 18:35.12 | Sky2042 | what's still giving him trouble? |
| 18:35.35 | Sky2042 | give him a plus kirk |
| 18:35.36 | Kirkburn | Issues with it doing way more than it should |
| 18:35.43 | Sky2042 | :] |
| 18:36.07 | Kirkburn | It's not just him, the others here are working on it too |
| 18:36.18 | Kirkburn | freakin' servers |
| 18:36.24 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 18:36.30 | Kirkburn | Well, freakin' wowwiki |
| 18:36.54 | Sky2042 | guess that's what happens when we don't have enough power to take on 40k articles and 50k others in redirects, templates, and talks. |
| 18:37.26 | Kirkburn | It's all those damn users |
| 18:37.50 | Kirkburn | Get rid of them, no problem :P |
| 18:37.51 | Sky2042 | the ones who dont even edit? |
| 18:37.53 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 18:38.08 | Sky2042 | how though? just delete their info? |
| 18:38.14 | Sky2042 | on the server* |
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| 18:41.48 | ChrissyPoo-zZz | how many points do you need to go from hated to neutral? |
| 18:41.57 | Kirkburn | No, I mean, stop people visiting *sigh* /joke failure! |
| 18:42.05 | Sky2042 | obviously |
| 18:42.16 | Sky2042 | j00 ph41l |
| 18:42.58 | Sky2042 | ChrissyPoo: 42k |
| 18:43.12 | Sky2042 | ouch |
| 18:43.55 | Sky2042 | more to go from hated to neutral than it is from neutral to exalted. |
| 18:44.33 | ChrissyPoo | thanks |
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| 19:00.52 | Sky2042_ | lol |
| 19:00.55 | Sky2042_ | brann speculation tagged under speculation = win |
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| 19:13.24 | foxlit | "welfare epics" |
| 19:13.26 | foxlit | cute phrase |
| 19:23.52 | Kirkburn | Just a quick check - has anyone seen any problems with the wiki at all recently? |
| 19:25.55 | Inez | no :) |
| 19:26.00 | Inez | it works really good. |
| 19:32.24 | foxlit | define recently |
| 19:32.28 | foxlit | I couldn't edit a few hours earlier |
| 19:34.08 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/13/will-we-ever-see-more-hero-classes/ |
| 19:39.38 | Skosiris | SKY |
| 19:41.41 | laurly | Kirkburn its been unbareabley slow all day.............. gave up on the bot around 2 |
| 19:42.38 | Kirkburn | laurly, when was "2"? |
| 19:42.51 | laurly | 7 hours ago |
| 19:43.02 | Kirkburn | How about now? |
| 19:43.16 | laurly | 5 min to edit a page its not worth runing the bot. dont know im raiding cant run the bot while im raiding |
| 19:52.15 | deltron | lol |
| 19:52.24 | deltron | anyone here try out wowroster 2.0 yet? |
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| 20:04.08 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/13/attunement-scrolls-now-granting-free-flasks/ |
| 20:11.43 | foxlit | Foxbot only uses ~3MB RAM :/ |
| 20:11.52 | Fisker- | fail |
| 20:11.57 | pcj | VB versus LUA? |
| 20:12.12 | Fisker- | do you have a spare raid array i can get? |
| 20:12.29 | foxlit | VB isn't memory hungry by default |
| 20:12.52 | foxlit | I mean, my VB-written adserver uses 1MB |
| 20:13.33 | pcj | well obviously laurly isn't terrible at coding then |
| 20:14.25 | foxlit | clearly not |
| 20:14.40 | laurly | ahh so sweet |
| 20:15.17 | laurly | laurly bot only takes extra becuose its not compiled its still running in visual studio and that takes a lot |
| 20:15.39 | pcj | oh gosh |
| 20:15.51 | pcj | you mean visual basic 6 right |
| 20:16.02 | laurly | yup if i get bored i will upgrade it to .net |
| 20:16.31 | laurly | i just keep running her with the debuger until she stops tossing errors |
| 20:16.49 | foxlit | VB's error recovery is so silly |
| 20:17.03 | laurly | object garbage collection is even worse. |
| 20:17.17 | laurly | thats where my memory leak came from before |
| 20:17.29 | laurly | seams to be gone now it rann all day thursday no leaks |
| 20:17.35 | foxlit | What do you use that generates garbage, anyway? |
| 20:17.54 | laurly | remember to set objectname = nothing :) |
| 20:18.06 | foxlit | But why? |
| 20:18.21 | laurly | becouse vb6 wont release thememory if you dont |
| 20:18.22 | foxlit | There's very little that calls for mad object generation in the first place |
| 20:18.58 | laurly | odbc to the database was the worst |
| 20:19.30 | laurly | that and the webbrowser component vs the internet explorer component |
| 20:19.40 | foxlit | Double ouch. |
| 20:19.44 | foxlit | Winsock and native array storage |
| 20:19.54 | laurly | i figured that out the hard way |
| 20:20.10 | laurly | im still using the winsock component to connect to irc but it seams fine |
| 20:20.21 | foxlit | Plugging ODBC into VB isn't exactly straightforward either |
| 20:20.42 | laurly | nope :) |
| 20:21.59 | laurly | considered doing it as an irc eggdrop bot that wouldnt be that hard |
| 20:37.04 | MatthewS | warning: DO NOT use the quartzslate skin on wowwiki |
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| 20:44.09 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/13/engineering-the-jack-of-all-trades-profession/ |
| 20:52.57 | Fisker- | hah |Pixel| |
| 20:53.00 | Fisker- | that was pretty smart |
| 20:53.16 | Fisker- | "Hey lets host this countdown to our next new big game on the domain of the game we'll announce" |
| 20:53.29 | |Pixel| | huh ? |
| 20:54.44 | pcj | don't play dumb, he's on to you |
| 20:56.06 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 20:56.23 | Fisker- | the us site linked their image to starcraft2.com |
| 20:58.04 | Fisker- | So that means your new game is starcraft 2 omg |
| 20:58.14 | Fisker- | that reminds me |
| 20:58.20 | Fisker- | Someone asked when Starcraft 3 would be done |
| 20:58.31 | Fisker- | on Blizzcon :P |
| 20:58.34 | Fisker- | and he got an answer |
| 20:58.46 | MatthewS | and...assuming you ignored my warning: www.wowwiki.com/Main_Page?useskin=wowwiki&save=true |
| 20:59.06 | Fisker- | i ignored it |
| 20:59.09 | Fisker- | what does that link do? |
| 20:59.21 | pcj | deletes the internet |
| 20:59.30 | Fisker- | oh |
| 20:59.34 | Fisker- | that skin is cool |
| 20:59.50 | Fisker- | gonna use that as my default skin |
| 21:00.08 | pcj | hmm http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Main_Page&useskin=quartzslate doesn't work |
| 21:00.32 | Fisker- | can't you just remove the skins anyways? |
| 21:00.36 | Fisker- | They all look ugly as hell |
| 21:01.06 | pcj | because they're white-based |
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| 21:02.51 | Kirkburn | pcj, er ... "MatthewS warning: DO NOT use the quartzslate skin on wowwiki" |
| 21:02.56 | Kirkburn | What part of that was confusing? :) |
| 21:03.03 | pcj | "NOT" |
| 21:03.28 | Kirkburn | hmm, very hmm :P |
| 21:03.35 | Kirkburn | I'm going to make a VP post on it |
| 21:04.14 | pcj | hah, i missed zarnks getting unbanned |
| 21:06.34 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#Big_red_button |
| 21:07.54 | Kirkburn | pcj, he was on here, and I offered him it :) |
| 21:07.55 | pcj | Maybe you should just rename the skin to "DO NOT USE THIS SKIN"? |
| 21:08.19 | Fisker- | You have my sword |
| 21:08.23 | Fisker- | and my bows |
| 21:08.25 | Fisker- | And MY BALLS |
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| 21:10.12 | Kirkburn | Now that's interesting |
| 21:10.17 | Kirkburn | Noticed the changes to the diffs? |
| 21:11.06 | laurly | wtf you taging everthing!!! |
| 21:11.17 | Fisker- | not other than the background seems to fit with the wowwiki background |
| 21:11.36 | Fisker- | oh wai |
| 21:11.37 | Fisker- | t |
| 21:11.40 | Fisker- | i saw what it did there |
| 21:11.47 | Fisker- | underlining where a change was made |
| 21:11.53 | laurly | pcj you might wana stop taging stuff until wiki un slow's so the bot can process them. |
| 21:12.03 | pcj | wiki's not slow for me :o |
| 21:12.14 | pcj | yeah the diff changes are kind of annoying |
| 21:12.18 | laurly | hmm ok i will cross my fingers for tomrrow |
| 21:12.42 | laurly | she can do a page every 30 sec if the server will behave |
| 21:12.51 | Kirkburn | You're still having problems? |
| 21:13.06 | laurly | Kirkburn im still in ssc not a clue i havent tryed since 2 my time |
| 21:13.17 | Fisker- | noo |
| 21:13.29 | Fisker- | it's a shame someone removed my "Naga plz" from Not a WOTLK faq |
| 21:14.19 | Kirkburn | laurly, I'm pretty sure it's back to normal now |
| 21:14.32 | laurly | grate :) |
| 21:14.55 | laurly | i spent the time today getting it to rip items from armory so time well spent |
| 21:15.01 | Kirkburn | It's been basically the focus of the office for a fair few hours now |
| 21:15.13 | Kirkburn | woo |
| 21:15.25 | pcj | that's ok, i have foxbot |
| 21:15.48 | laurly | i have the abilty to add login to laurlybot i just have to turn it on so if anyone abuses it we can just enable that |
| 21:16.05 | laurly | go thought he quest the bot makes and submit the quest items to foxbot then :) |
| 21:16.21 | *** join/#wowwiki Foxbot (n=Foxbot@0x573e6bae.albnxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 21:16.21 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+v Foxbot] by ChanServ |
| 21:16.32 | laurly | and i thought foxbot was on vacation |
| 21:16.36 | Kirkburn | Wish I knew what was new in 1.10 |
| 21:17.31 | laurly | there was some kinda javascript error that the bot was picking up in ie not sure if that had anything to do with it |
| 21:17.41 | foxlit | http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=1.10&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 |
| 21:17.43 | laurly | coudlnt find some kinda regex function |
| 21:18.33 | Kirkburn | foxlit, you realise that's linking WoW? |
| 21:18.36 | pcj | !item 12765 |
| 21:18.40 | Foxbot | Couldn't save wiki page [Secret_Note_#1] |
| 21:18.43 | foxlit | Yes |
| 21:18.45 | Kirkburn | And Diablo :P |
| 21:19.04 | foxlit | Scary how blizzard owns numbers, eh? |
| 21:19.11 | pcj | !item 12766 |
| 21:19.14 | Foxbot | Couldn't save wiki page [Secret_Note_#2] |
| 21:19.22 | foxlit | wiki level error |
| 21:19.27 | pcj | !item 12768 |
| 21:19.30 | Foxbot | Couldn't save wiki page [Secret_Note_#3] |
| 21:19.57 | foxlit | I'll have a look after solarian |
| 21:21.51 | Dotted | Kirkburn |
| 21:22.03 | Kirkburn | Ooh, new page protection options |
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| 21:22.09 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+o Tekkub] by ChanServ |
| 21:22.09 | Kirkburn | With expiries! |
| 21:22.21 | Dotted | what went wrong with blizzardpedia? |
| 21:22.22 | Kirkburn | And cascade protection |
| 21:22.27 | Kirkburn | Went wrong? |
| 21:22.37 | Dotted | look at the site! |
| 21:22.52 | Kirkburn | Oh, skin problems? |
| 21:22.53 | Dotted | its more awful that 99% of the myspace profile pages |
| 21:23.12 | Kirkburn | Help fix, then, plz :) |
| 21:23.40 | Dotted | how can i fix skin problems? |
| 21:23.49 | pcj | !sup |
| 21:23.49 | Foxbot | There are currently 56 queued operations. |
| 21:23.55 | Kirkburn | Fix the actual design I mean :P |
| 21:24.11 | Dotted | >_> |
| 21:24.14 | Dotted | !jobqueue |
| 21:24.19 | [NewsBot] | The www.wowwiki.com job queue length is currently 1 |
| 21:24.25 | Dotted | ZOMG |
| 21:24.44 | foxlit | !mload witem |
| 21:24.50 | foxlit | In your face, queue |
| 21:24.51 | Foxbot | Loaded [witem] |
| 21:25.23 | Kirkburn | "Provide a "delete" link on Special:Brokenredirects for users with |
| 21:25.23 | Kirkburn | the appropriate permission" :D |
| 21:25.32 | pcj | !sup |
| 21:25.32 | Foxbot | There are currently 0 queued operations. |
| 21:27.12 | Kirkburn | Oh, awesome new block user page |
| 21:27.22 | foxlit | pcj: reloading it in a few seconds anyway |
| 21:30.39 | Kirkburn | "New special page, Special:Protectedpages, which shows all protected pages" :D |
| 21:31.37 | Kirkburn | Not that it seems to work ... |
| 21:34.08 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/13/wow-insiders-ptr-voice-chat-hands-on/ |
| 21:35.48 | foxlit | !quit |
| 21:35.50 | Foxbot | Bye! |
| 21:36.05 | pcj | is it coming back |
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| 21:36.09 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+v Foxbot] by ChanServ |
| 21:36.19 | foxlit | !item 12765 |
| 21:36.23 | Foxbot | Tooltip saved, foxlit, view at http://www.wowwiki.com/Secret_Note_#1 |
| 21:36.44 | foxlit | Linking to that is going to be hell, though |
| 21:36.45 | pcj | Well that didn't quite work |
| 21:36.50 | Kirkburn | Kaydeethree, ping |
| 21:36.50 | foxlit | No, it worked |
| 21:36.55 | pcj | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Secret_Note&action=history |
| 21:36.59 | pcj | Oh |
| 21:37.01 | pcj | Hmm |
| 21:37.12 | pcj | http://www.wowwiki.com/Secret_Note_%25x1 |
| 21:37.14 | foxlit | Yeah |
| 21:37.23 | foxlit | Bah |
| 21:37.31 | foxlit | So close |
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| 21:38.18 | foxlit | !item 12765 |
| 21:38.22 | Foxbot | Tooltip saved, foxlit, view at http://www.wowwiki.com/Secret_Note_#1 |
| 21:38.26 | foxlit | Still won't link to the right page |
| 21:38.46 | pcj | And it changed the wrong one |
| 21:38.57 | foxlit | Hm |
| 21:39.06 | foxlit | And I was so careful to escape the # |
| 21:39.09 | Kaydeethree | Kirkburn, pong |
| 21:39.41 | Kirkburn | Heyhey |
| 21:39.46 | Kirkburn | Who was at the wowi dinner? |
| 21:39.50 | foxlit | It's not wiki naming convetions, though |
| 21:39.52 | Kirkburn | You me and Matthew? |
| 21:40.12 | pcj | w/e |
| 21:40.30 | Kaydeethree | ya, and the starcraft guy, his name eludes me |
| 21:40.36 | Kirkburn | Ah yes! |
| 21:40.37 | Kirkburn | Overmind |
| 21:41.13 | Kirkburn | Ta :) |
| 21:41.26 | Kaydeethree | np. working on the writeup? |
| 21:41.43 | Kirkburn | Nah, though I should do soon |
| 21:42.25 | foxlit | grr http://www.darklegacycomics.com/103.html |
| 21:42.59 | Kirkburn | (Cairenn wanted to know) |
| 21:43.44 | Cairenn | the info was for me, working on my write up - thanks :) |
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| 21:46.34 | Kaydeethree | and foxlit, heh |
| 21:47.11 | foxlit | moonkins are viable, qq |
| 21:47.23 | pcj | lol like ret pallies |
| 21:47.39 | foxlit | Nah, ret pallies are a joke |
| 21:48.49 | Bagginsw | kirkburn I've fixed the info for Ula-tek again |
| 21:48.52 | Bagginsw | and removed the confusion people had with her and "hethiss" |
| 21:52.25 | Kirkburn | Yay, byte sizes in histories! |
| 21:52.38 | Kirkburn | Life is good :) |
| 21:54.50 | Kirkburn | You saw Zarnks is unblocked btw? |
| 21:57.04 | Kirkburn | "Warning on upload of images with uppercase extension if image with lowercase extension exists" |
| 21:57.05 | DuTempete | howdy, boys and girls. |
| 21:57.09 | Kirkburn | Howdy |
| 21:57.30 | DuTempete | Anything interesting going on? |
| 21:58.04 | Kirkburn | We're upgraded to 1.10.1 |
| 21:58.19 | DuTempete | yeah, that happened after you went t obed ;) |
| 21:58.46 | Kirkburn | "Autosummaries will be generated for deletion of pages longer than 500 characters" |
| 21:58.54 | DuTempete | which reminds me, how is the flea problem? |
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| 22:00.22 | Kirkburn | Better |
| 22:00.29 | pcj | !sup |
| 22:00.30 | Foxbot | There are currently 0 queued operations. |
| 22:00.41 | pcj | !itemset unyielding girdle |
| 22:01.23 | Bagginsww | kirkburn |
| 22:01.23 | Bagginsww | did you see the additions to ula'tek? |
| 22:01.28 | Bagginsww | also added some info to loas in general |
| 22:02.07 | laurly | yes lurker down! |
| 22:02.30 | pcj | grats |
| 22:02.51 | Kirkburn | I did |
| 22:02.56 | Kirkburn | laurly, grats |
| 22:03.19 | pcj | foxlit it isn't generating settip anymore |
| 22:04.14 | Bagginsww | I'm not even sure where the confusionb etween Hethiss and Ula-tek started |
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| 22:05.51 | Kirkburn | Useful for us? http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Familytree |
| 22:05.58 | Bagginsww | I'm going to add to speculation that some people speculate that Hethiss, Damballa and Ula-tek are variations of the same god. |
| 22:06.33 | Bagginsww | for those that think there are too many snake gods, I'd point to hawaiin mythology where there are like 3-4 volcano gods LOL |
| 22:06.42 | Bagginsww | pele is just the most powerful |
| 22:06.46 | laurly | ahh that was awsom :) |
| 22:11.14 | foxlit | pcj: which items? |
| 22:12.12 | foxlit | !wigrestart |
| 22:12.13 | Foxbot | Item generator restarted |
| 22:12.37 | foxlit | !item [tiponly] Unyielding Girdle |
| 22:12.41 | Foxbot | Tooltip saved, foxlit, view at http://www.wowwiki.com/Unyielding_Girdle |
| 22:14.34 | foxlit | Oddest. set. ever. |
| 22:17.20 | Kirkburn | Warning: if you see weirdness over the next minutes, do not panic. |
| 22:17.24 | Kirkburn | Or press the red button. |
| 22:17.35 | foxlit | Which red button is that? |
| 22:17.38 | Kirkburn | Just keep your towel handy. |
| 22:17.43 | Kirkburn | That one. Just over there. |
| 22:17.58 | Kirkburn | It's big, and inviting. |
| 22:18.14 | foxlit | Then it can't be anything evil! |
| 22:20.34 | Kirkburn | hahaha, lol |
| 22:20.39 | Kirkburn | Now I see what they meant |
| 22:29.21 | Dotted | yo Kirkburn Adys and whoever was interested |
| 22:29.22 | Dotted | [[Illidan Stormrage]] |
| 22:29.22 | [NewsBot] | Dotted meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Illidan_Stormrage |
| 22:29.26 | Dotted | \o/ |
| 22:29.34 | Adys | woot |
| 22:29.49 | Dotted | {{tooltip}} |
| 22:29.50 | [NewsBot] | Dotted meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:tooltip |
| 22:30.03 | Kirkburn | nice! |
| 22:30.13 | Dotted | [[Illidan Stormrage|Dude]] |
| 22:30.14 | [NewsBot] | Dotted meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Illidan_Stormrage |
| 22:30.32 | DuTempete | Oh, that's awesome!! |
| 22:31.03 | Dotted | man that took a lot of guessing to get working, regular expressions arent my strongest area :D |
| 22:31.22 | DuTempete | [[Dotted is my hero]] |
| 22:31.22 | [NewsBot] | DuTempete meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/Dotted_is_my_hero |
| 22:31.25 | DuTempete | hehe |
| 22:35.52 | Kaydeethree | oh, sweet. does it handle subpages? |
| 22:35.59 | Dotted | dunno |
| 22:36.03 | Kaydeethree | [[User:Kaydeethree/BlizzCon]] |
| 22:36.03 | [NewsBot] | Kaydeethree meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Kaydeethree/BlizzCon |
| 22:38.10 | Kirkburn | Does it work in the [[Middle]] of sentences? |
| 22:38.16 | Kirkburn | no ^^ |
| 22:38.56 | Dotted | sort of |
| 22:39.20 | Dotted | [[I has made an pie]] works fine :/ |
| 22:39.21 | [NewsBot] | Dotted meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/I_has_made_an_pie |
| 22:39.39 | Dotted | [[I has made an pie]] works fine :/ |
| 22:39.39 | [NewsBot] | Dotted meant: http://www.wowwiki.com/I_has_made_an_pie |
| 22:39.45 | Dotted | Does it work in the [[Middle]] of sentences? |
| 22:39.48 | Dotted | meh |
| 22:40.09 | Dotted | whats the syntax for a code box onn the wiki? |
| 22:40.55 | Kaydeethree | <code>stuff</code> |
| 22:40.57 | Kaydeethree | ? |
| 22:41.39 | Dotted | i fail |
| 22:42.00 | Taurmindo | not even in the middle of [[I has made an pie]] sentences? ;) |
| 22:44.20 | foxlit | Just put a space before each line of code :P |
| 22:44.34 | foxlit | <code> is a bit of a formatting gimmick |
| 22:46.15 | Taurmindo | or <pre> .. but that's the same as <code>, isn't it? |
| 22:46.51 | Kaydeethree | <pre>'s straight html, <code> is a mediawiki implementation, more text styling iirc |
| 22:47.42 | Kaydeethree | or, not... <code>'s showing up in the html source too. I must be out of the loop |
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| 22:49.10 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/13/wow-insider-coming-to-dragon-con/ |
| 22:49.13 | Dotted | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Dotted/NewsBot#Wiki_link_converter for anyone interested |
| 22:50.29 | Kaydeethree | wow, mIRC on event scripting. that's a language I haven't seen in a while |
| 22:52.10 | Dotted | its the only language i know :P |
| 22:52.25 | Dotted | other than VBScript ^^ |
| 22:52.49 | foxlit | Stuff.ASPLODE! |
| 22:55.52 | Kirkburn | What are people seeing on the wiki atm? |
| 22:56.00 | Kirkburn | (i'm intrigued) |
| 22:56.22 | Dotted | a black whole |
| 22:56.46 | foxlit | a black whale! |
| 22:57.34 | Dotted | -w |
| 22:58.28 | Dotted | http://www.wowwiki.com/images/3/3b/Rogue-Mikk-large.png ahahhaha |
| 23:02.02 | Dotted | WTB Chaoslux |
| 23:02.14 | Dotted | ~seen Chaoslux |
| 23:02.16 | infobot | chaoslux <i=Shana_3@ppp19.39-205-205.netc.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowwiki, 1d 16h 6m ago, saying: 'compared to Goldshire chat :/'. |
| 23:02.55 | Dotted | bah |
| 23:04.10 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/13/addon-spotlight-possessions/ |
| 23:04.54 | DuTempete | mmmm competitive Sudoku ;) |
| 23:09.42 | Taurmindo | ThraeBot: char eu twisting nether craag |
| 23:09.46 | ThraeBot | Taurmindo: craag is not the character you are looking for! |
| 23:09.49 | Taurmindo | ThraeBot: char eu twisting nether kronblom |
| 23:10.02 | ThraeBot | Taurmindo: Kronblom, Level 70 Night Elf Warrior (18/43/0). 8664 HP; 6825 Armour; 1469 AP; 162.9 Melee DPS; 23.74% melee crit; 86 melee hit; 7.75% dodge; 5% block; 42 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 954 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/26pvj3 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2vhv6v ]] |
| 23:10.53 | Taurmindo | ThraeBot: char eu twisting nether crang |
| 23:10.58 | ThraeBot | Taurmindo: Crang, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (0/50/11). 8274 HP; 4565 Mana; 111 mana regen; 800 AP; 125 Melee DPS; 18.28% melee crit; 47 melee hit; 31 +heal; 28.31% dodge; 49 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 159 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/26ma77 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/39yede ]] |
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| 23:36.15 | Taurmindo | bah. i hate this new thing to dash-through all stuff removed when looking at diff for a page.. makes it impossible to read. |
| 23:37.24 | Kirkburn | I can probably change it back |
| 23:38.43 | Taurmindo | would be nice. i mean, there are already obvious marks on the left hand (of the content) on what has been removed. |
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| 23:39.24 | Bagginsww | sky did you get my message yesterday? |
| 23:39.36 | Bagginsww | editor for MG is a different person |
| 23:39.52 | Sky2042 | yeah |
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| 23:43.48 | Kirkburn | What colours were they before, Taurmindo ? |
| 23:44.36 | Taurmindo | colors? that i don't know. but i mean, they weren't the dash-through-letter effected. |
| 23:44.48 | pcj | red and green i think |
| 23:44.59 | pcj | The dash letter thing is annoying |
| 23:45.22 | Kirkburn | How do you override strike? :/ |
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| 23:46.14 | pcj | text-decoration: none |
| 23:46.28 | Kirkburn | ta |
| 23:46.33 | pcj | If strike is applied via CSS |
| 23:47.10 | Kirkburn | My browser I think |
| 23:47.12 | Kirkburn | *by |
| 23:47.22 | Kirkburn | Sorry, confusing |
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| 23:47.40 | Kirkburn | ins and del are the code blocks |
| 23:48.05 | Kirkburn | That gets converted (by the browser) to underline and strike |
| 23:48.16 | Kirkburn | pcj, any new css things you've add recently that might be cool? |
| 23:48.28 | pcj | Haven't added CSS recently |
| 23:48.40 | pcj | Mainly JS to patch some problems introduced by the upgrade |
| 23:49.11 | Kirkburn | Oh, such as? |
| 23:49.55 | pcj | Well, in Firefox's error console I kept getting stuff like "tooltipAccessKeyRegexp is not defined" ...so i defined them :P |
| 23:50.07 | pcj | var tooltipAccessKeyRegexp = /\[(ctrl-)?(alt-)?(shift-)?(esc-)?.\]$/; |
| 23:50.08 | pcj | var mwEditButtons = []; |
| 23:50.39 | pcj | Only seems to affect the JS when editing pages for me |
| 23:50.39 | Kirkburn | These are the kind of things you should report y'know :P (unless you already did ^^) |
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| 23:51.14 | pcj | Well, it's highly subjective as to whether it was on my end or not, it didn't affect the core user performance |
| 23:51.31 | pcj | Because it seemed to define it in the wikibits.js but not working |
| 23:52.22 | Kirkburn | Okay, overrides in |
| 23:54.12 | pcj | Hmm, a bit different color than they were but still better |
