IRC log for #wowwiki on 20070810

00:01.45KirkburnThoughts on table designs? http://www.wowwiki.com/Azuremyst_Isle
00:01.56KirkburnThe rest of the wiki's zone tables need updating anyway
00:04.07AdysLooks good
00:08.48KirkburnCompare to previous http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Azuremyst_Isle&oldid=720061 ... double table weirdness :/
00:08.59Kirkburn(no idea what varg was on when he made that)
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00:21.27Adyshttp://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=DK&redirect=no disambig plx
00:33.13KirkburnAdys, argh :P
00:33.27Adysmh?
00:37.28KirkburnAt yet another dismbig
00:42.22KirkburnAnyone heard of http://rupture.com/ ?
00:43.04ChaosluxHey guys, how the hell are the < > on the side of your nick called? Nick Separator?
00:44.05ThraeChaoslux: That's put there by your IRC client. It's not part of the message sent or received from the IRC server.
00:44.55ThraeChaoslux: Most use < Nick>, but it's usually configurable on a good IRC client.
00:45.00[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/09/blue-notes-windfury-and-voice-chat/
00:46.13Thrae20:51 [Wowirc] <@Eth:#Maelstrom> hey shaved <-- irssi's default style, which shows [Server] <?Nick:#channel>
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00:56.47pcjhmm
00:57.44Chaoslux(20:44:57) /Thrae\ Chaoslux: <-- I know they are configurable, i just need to know their name =[
01:10.15AdysChaoslux: Nick brackets, usually
01:22.59[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/09/spec-choices-and-when-to-make-them/
01:32.14KirkburnI'm off home
01:32.17KirkburnBbl
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01:45.00pcjsomeone needs to update the topic
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02:51.23KirkburnNargle
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03:02.56Adysgrats
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03:05.25Kirkburngrats
03:09.00pcjfixed
03:10.22Sky2042that's your answer for everything, isn't it?
03:10.27Sky2042:o
03:11.27Sky2042that's a lot of edits pcj... have you actually added any real content anywhere? XD
03:12.12pcjLots of tooltips
03:12.43Sky2042that arenn't tooltips or quests
03:12.47Sky2042or cleanup
03:12.49Sky2042anything :X
03:13.39pcjSure
03:16.44KirkburnSky2042, you might as well ask if *I've* ever added any real content
03:16.58Sky2042you, kirkburn?
03:17.03Sky2042have you? :P
03:17.08KirkburnNo
03:17.24KirkburnOh, it's known by my Wikia boss
03:17.40KirkburnThere's 3 interns, the other two are the "content" guys :)
03:18.16KirkburnI'm like the "telling people what they're doing wrong" guy ^^
03:18.41KirkburnI am certainly something to wonder at :)
03:19.12KirkburnActually I spent today setting up a gaming starter wiki
03:19.28pcjh*
03:19.43KirkburnThoughts on http://gamingstarter.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page as a start for a gaming wiki?
03:20.17KirkburnIf the colours are completely off, it's cause the skin isn't finished yet
03:20.37KirkburnIt's intended that the gaming wikis will have an inverted skin, similar to wowwiki
03:21.02Sky2042blue on blue?
03:21.14Sky2042jw
03:21.18KirkburnExactly, the working skin has much lighter links
03:22.10KirkburnMostly I was copying loads of wiki templates across, like stub stuff, navigation, so you won't see that
03:22.43KirkburnThis shows the MP design better - http://crysis.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page
03:23.51Sky2042someone needs to tell wikia to make their sidebox smaller
03:25.00Sky2042Template:Template, kirk?
03:25.17KirkburnCheck our wiki :)
03:25.40KirkburnOh, I mentioned the sidebar thing to the skin guy today
03:26.00Sky2042oh jebus kirkburn
03:26.00KirkburnHe acknowledges it, but it's not something they can do anything about just yet
03:26.01Sky2042lol
03:26.08Sky2042http://wowwiki.com/Template:Template
03:26.11Sky2042touche
03:26.21KirkburnI told you, I copied wowwiki stuff :P
03:27.07Sky2042whoamygodanoneditalert
03:27.11pcjhttp://wowwiki.com/Template_talk:Template is slightly confusing
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03:27.37KirkburnAh, thanks for fixing btw
03:27.41KirkburnYes, it is
03:27.47Sky2042lol
03:28.02KirkburnBy all means fiddle, I'm done with work for today
03:28.17KirkburnI mainly just wanted to get things on the site first
03:29.50Sky2042i hope you didn't copy over our silly way of doing stubs. five billion templates for one non-informational piece
03:30.10Kirkburnnah, took the wikipedia one
03:30.51KirkburnDifficult deciding which templates are general enough for inclusion on a boilerplate wiki
03:31.47Sky2042can you edit css/js on that one?
03:32.18KirkburnHaven't tried
03:32.56KirkburnI *assume* it all gets carried over, but I'm not certain (or even whether it would be approved)
03:33.08KirkburnThis is a surprisingly cool site - http://www.hairarchives.com/private/pinkroomnew.htm
03:33.35KirkburnMake that http://www.hairarchives.com/
03:37.52pcjyou have a weird fetish kirkburn
03:38.21Kirkburnhttp://www.neatorama.com/
03:40.42Sky2042i hate armory
03:41.57pcjit sucks
03:46.20Sky2042cleaning up my server page of guilds isn't fun
03:47.47Sky2042only has 3 contribs before you check
03:47.50Sky2042:p
03:51.49pcjProbably my fault then
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04:18.01JiyambiHello peoples
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04:18.38JiyambiHullo Sky
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04:18.58Sky2042_hey hey jiyambi
04:19.07DuTempetehey, folks, howzit?
04:19.09Sky2042_i wanted to tell you something that you shouldn't be doing :O
04:19.27Sky2042_Quest Chain: shouldn't be the name of the quest chain :X
04:19.40Sky2042_hihidutempete
04:19.52Jiyambi*blames Eirik*
04:20.01DuTempeteKirkburn!
04:20.14JiyambiK Sky how should I name them then?
04:20.40JiyambiI was kinda wondering about that anyways since I know it would be a pseudo namespace (which i know nothing about other than we dont want them)
04:20.54JiyambiBut that's how Eirik was naming them so I started doing it too
04:21.06Sky2042_I would suggest soething like "name quest chain" or "name quest line" or "name questline" (no space)
04:21.14Sky2042_of the starting quest, usually
04:21.24Sky2042_stuff like onyxia key can be at Onyxia key questline
04:21.38JiyambiHa, I was naming them "<Quest Chain Name> Chain"
04:21.46JiyambiGuess I should have stuck with that
04:21.58Sky2042_jebus i want to beat eirik over the head
04:22.09JiyambiAwww that would be sad
04:22.31JiyambiAnyways I will fix the ones I made already eventually, and from now I will know better
04:22.40KirkburnDuTempete!
04:22.43Sky2042_hehe
04:22.45Sky2042_it's alright
04:22.48DuTempetehi ;)
04:22.55Sky2042_make sure the "chain" part is decapsed :)
04:23.01JiyambiHmmm kk
04:23.14JiyambiDo you think it should be "quest chain" or just "chain"?
04:23.26Sky2042_i'm not real sure about that
04:23.33Sky2042_I'd go with quest chain, though
04:23.34JiyambiHmmm, I think "quest chain"
04:23.36KirkburnPasta time!
04:23.39Sky2042_yum!
04:23.42Sky2042_what kind?
04:23.44Jiyambi*jealous*
04:24.19Sky2042_slowwikiorslowinternet?
04:24.48JiyambiWiki seemed slow all day... and maybe the past few days...
04:25.34KirkburnThere was *the possibility* we were gonna get more RAM today, but other server stuff took prcedence
04:26.01JiyambiJust a check in, since I am pretty new to this still... have I been stepping on toes/annoying people overmuch?
04:26.04KirkburnHad some power problems
04:26.12Kirkburn(for all servers)
04:26.27Sky2042_nope jiyambi
04:26.28Sky2042_hehe
04:26.33KirkburnJiyambi, only worry when someone starts shouting at you :)
04:26.54Jiyambihehe okay, I guess so far I have avoided getting wrath directed at me
04:26.58KirkburnAs for why the wiki is slow atm ... Wrath of the Lich King ring any bells?
04:27.10Sky2042_lol
04:27.15Sky2042_but right now?
04:27.20JiyambiAh yes, I actually sent most of my guild here to check it out
04:27.29KirkburnWouldn't surprise me if we were still seeing increased load
04:27.49KirkburnAnyway, pasta
04:28.05Sky2042_ok, someone created a server event page that has no server
04:28.09Sky2042_i are confoosid
04:28.11Jiyambihehe
04:29.32JiyambiI finished like everything to do with Thousand Needles quests today! It was exciting, i have been working on it like since i started here
04:30.24JiyambiyuS
04:30.30Sky2042_kul tiras has a friggin apostrophe, you idiots!
04:30.31Sky2042_>:(
04:30.39JiyambiHehe
04:31.13JiyambiSo... someone wanna teach me how to use the bots to create quest/item pages?
04:31.32Sky2042_first, we've got foxbot
04:31.42Sky2042_http://www.wowwiki.com/User:FoxBot
04:31.52Sky2042_ack
04:31.58Sky2042_http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Foxbot
04:32.05Jiyambihehe i figured
04:32.07Sky2042_That explains how to use the item bot
04:32.25Sky2042_laurlybot works by tagging quest pages, like you've seen pcj spamming RC with
04:33.28JiyambiSweet, that will save me some time in the future
04:33.57Sky2042_laurlybot works at a 30second interval, and only when she's on
04:33.57JiyambiThings will still need touch up afterwards, but for simple stuff like quest items, the bot page is perfectly fine :)
04:34.57Sky2042_pie > cake
04:35.00Jiyambihehe
04:35.09JiyambiYes as far as food goes i heartily agree
04:35.18Sky2042_i'd also suggest that you join #wowhead :) totally cool channel over there
04:35.25JiyambiAnyways laundry time, thanks for the help Sky (as usual)
04:35.29Jiyambiokay thanks :)
04:35.31Sky2042_:)
04:35.33Sky2042_np
04:35.38Sky2042_have fun with the laundry
04:35.43Jiyambiha ya right
04:37.27DuTempetenew guy working on the Warlock articles :)
04:37.35Sky2042new guy working on the mage articles too
04:37.39Sky2042hehe
04:37.41DuTempeteGonzie?
04:37.46Sky2042no
04:37.56Sky2042can't think of his name
04:38.15Sky2042piumossos the regular
04:38.16DuTempeteah, well this guy's work has so far been fairly good, just some grammar issues, and he's not notices internal link opportunities.
04:38.19Sky2042there's another new one
04:38.37Sky2042s/there's another new one/there's another one/
04:39.00Sky2042Chentoka
04:39.12Sky2042http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Contributions/Chentoka
04:40.55DuTempetenice
04:43.21DuTempeteGonzie has activated one of my pet peeves, though. =P
04:43.51Sky2042what?
04:43.57DuTempeteHe's doing multiple edits on the same article, all little stuff that could/should be done at the same time.
04:44.20Sky2042ah
04:44.34DuTempeteSo my watchlist is a mile long, while he cont # is getting higher. =P
04:44.45Sky2042lol
04:44.49Sky2042use the good watchlist
04:44.53Sky2042condenses all the edits
04:44.57DuTempete?
04:45.18Sky2042also changes RC
04:45.54DuTempetehe's removing a bunch of content, too... some of it redundant, some of it color
04:46.07DuTempetealthough I dunno where those quotes came from in the first place
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04:46.20Sky2042http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Preferences click on the recent changes tab, and then check the box that says enhanced recent changes
04:46.40DuTempetehttp://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Improved_Life_Tap&curid=24025&diff=805356&oldid=805331
04:46.46DuTempetesee what he did, there?
04:47.22Sky2042nope...
04:48.05DuTempetewhat exactly is "enhanced"? =P
04:48.34DuTempetewhat do you mean "nope"?
04:48.54Sky2042check recent changes / watchlist ;)
04:49.04Sky2042and as to nope: no, i'm not real sure what he changed...
04:49.56DuTempetehe removed content =P
04:50.10DuTempetestuff I'm not sure he should have
04:50.12Sky2042was it duplicative?
04:50.17DuTempeteno
04:50.24DuTempeteread it =P
04:50.27Sky2042then add it back silly :P
04:50.45DuTempeteI'm asking your opinion, retard.
04:51.07DuTempeteKirkburn, smack Sky for being slow, please.
04:51.14Sky2042kirkburn isn't here
04:51.16Sky2042;)
04:51.31Sky2042i think
04:51.34DuTempetehe is
04:51.49DuTempetehis pasta isn't all THAT important
04:51.52DuTempetelol
04:52.10Sky2042LOL
04:52.10Sky2042owned!
04:52.15DuTempetehehehe
04:52.15Kirkburnowned!
04:52.17DuTempeteowned!
04:52.43KirkburnPasta is hardly a hands-on meal
04:52.44DuTempetewhat kind of pasta?
04:52.55KirkburnFusili, with three cheese sauce
04:53.00DuTempetemeh
04:53.02Sky2042some of that could be readded dutempete
04:53.12vlad_depends how much you want to get your hands dirty
04:53.18Sky2042a lot of that is already in the infobox
04:53.27Sky2042zomg, vlad_ has graced us with his presence!
04:53.38DuTempeteyeah, a lot of his edits just feel like he's turning them into Wowhead pages...
04:54.12DuTempeteMmmm... I'm in the mood for my homemade lasagna, now...
04:54.26DuTempeteI can't afford to make it, though =P
04:55.12DuTempetehomemade sauce with italian sausage, spinach, fresh basil, and a couple tons of fresh mozzarella... mmm...
04:55.26vlad_Sky2042: i'm almost always around, just ridiculously busy =/
04:55.34Sky2042i knew that ;P
04:55.41DuTempeteor an italian sausage, mushroom, spinach stromboli...
04:55.50Sky2042jebus, stop, i don't want to be hungry
04:56.11DuTempetesorry, the only ethnicity out here is redneck...
04:56.20DuTempeteit's hard to find any good italian food
04:56.40Sky2042lrn2italiangarden
04:56.58DuTempetehave to drive an hour to Buca Di Becco's, and they don't have stromboli
04:56.59DuTempeteeeew
04:57.02DuTempeteand there isn't one
04:57.18Sky2042!wowwiki
04:57.20KirkburnHere, there's pretty much everything .... if you have a car
04:57.26DuTempeteerr Buca Di Peppo's
04:57.31DuTempeteYeah, it's Cali
04:57.36DuTempeteI'm in So. Indiana
04:57.41vlad_Beppo's, probably
04:57.56DuTempetethat, too, vlad_
04:58.12DuTempeteI need sleep...
04:58.28KirkburnAre you an hour ahead of me?
04:58.29DuTempetebut I'm monitoring the newbie...
04:58.36DuTempete3 hours, Kirk
04:58.42Kirkburnoh, lol
04:59.01KirkburnMy US geography is fail
04:59.09DuTempeteeastern, here, and there's Mountain and Central in between us
04:59.13DuTempetes'ok :)
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04:59.27Sky2042i r in kirkburn's tyme zoan
04:59.36DuTempetenobody asked you, Sky =P
04:59.50Sky2042uh. not my problem!
04:59.52Sky2042:p
04:59.55DuTempetehehe
05:00.26JunkHead-WorkMornig.
05:00.33DuTempeteKirk, what does the enhanced recent changes do?
05:01.15Sky2042have you looked at your recent changes list dutempete?
05:01.34KirkburnAha, we need a titan nav box
05:01.40Sky2042nah
05:02.21Kirkburnnah?
05:02.25Sky2042nah!
05:02.37Sky2042nah, nah nah nah nah, nah nah nah nah, nah nah nah nah
05:03.09Sky2042nah, nah nah nah nah, nah nah nah, nah nah nah nah nah nah, nah nah nah nah
05:03.53DuTempeteSPAM!
05:04.00DuTempetehe's breaking rules, KICK HIM!
05:04.16Sky2042i beg to differ
05:06.28DuTempeteugh... I'm going to bed :(
05:06.54DuTempeteI don't have the patience to fix this stuff right now
05:08.01DuTempetenights
05:15.14Jiyambibtw, i have returned
05:15.43Sky2042onos
05:15.48Sky2042:p
05:17.03JiyambiI feel like such a dweeb, some of those pages have already been moved like three times
05:18.33Sky2042lol
05:20.18JiyambiHey sky, will you look at http://www.wowwiki.com/Dun_Morogh ? There is a nav there, should it exist or not?
05:21.02Sky2042just go by teldrassil :)
05:21.29JiyambiOkay, in that case I will remove it. Also the quest page is in a weird place compared to how the other pages are now set up, I am gonna move that too
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05:24.12KirkburnSky2042, job for you :) http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Titans
05:24.38Sky2042s/Panthon/Pantheon/
05:24.45Sky2042lol
05:24.46KirkburnCause he was in it! :P
05:24.52Sky2042yeah, he sure aint' now
05:25.04KirkburnWell, what do you suggest?
05:25.25Sky2042i dunno. i just felt like being critical without real cause. :P
05:25.42Kirkburnheh
05:26.01KirkburnWell, instead, can you add it to articles? =)
05:26.10Sky2042lol
05:26.13Sky2042one sec
05:26.55Sky2042hmm
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05:31.22Sky2042i'm guessing it doesn't need to be on azeroth?
05:31.48KirkburnNo?
05:32.40Sky2042jebus, there's so much that could be added from S&L. reminds me that I have to go add the stuff for the other two elemental lords
05:33.05KirkburnThanks for doing the adding bit :)
05:33.44Sky2042http://www.wowwiki.com/Norgannon can you fix?
05:33.48Sky2042bad looking to me
05:33.58KirkburnShall do
05:34.29Kirkburn"In combat, he gazes in [[Eonar]], [[Aggramar]] and [[Aman'Thul]]." ?????
05:34.37Sky2042who knows
05:38.00KirkburnBlizzplanet still says it :(
05:38.07Sky2042hmm
05:41.47Sky2042question: aren't all the articles you tagged as cat:titans also in the lore category?
05:42.53JiyambiOkay quick question: what is the best naming convention for quest list pages?  Until now I have been naming them <Zone Name>/Quest List"
05:43.24Sky2042didn't we settle this on teldrassil, or am i on crack XD
05:43.26Sky2042?
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05:43.37Jiyambino we just both made a bunch of suggestions and I still wasn't sure :P
05:43.41Sky2042hehe
05:43.47JiyambiCause you are right, <Zone> quests is simpler
05:43.58Sky2042i'd go with zone quests then
05:44.01JiyambiBut List of <Zone> quests matches the NPC page better
05:44.09Sky2042you can fix the NPC pages after. :P
05:44.28JiyambiGah! Every NPC has a link to its page, that would take so... long....
05:44.40Sky2042just move the page, don't change the NPC pages :P
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05:44.52JiyambiAnd just leave the redirect? That would work
05:45.13KirkburnSky2042, yes at being in lore
05:45.23KirkburnThe lore category is really odd anyway, means so little
05:45.36JiyambiOkay maybe I will, whould I just call it the NPC pages then "<Zone> NPCs"?
05:45.45Sky2042kirkburn: you want me to take all thse articles out of lore?
05:45.52Sky2042jiyambi:yup
05:45.53KirkburnNah, don't worry about it
05:45.57Sky2042heh
05:46.04Sky2042lore is such a silly title name
05:46.07Jiyambiokay thanks, sorry I will get out of your conversation now :P
05:46.10Sky2042cat name*
05:46.11Sky2042lol
05:46.13Sky2042no worries
05:46.27Sky2042this isn't that bad... should see #wowhead just before primetime
05:46.30Sky2042:O
05:49.33KirkburnNeither did I!
05:50.31KirkburnAdd to template?
05:50.41Jiyambihmmm should "Dun Morogh/mobs" become "Dun Morogh mobs"?
05:50.46Sky2042i will kirk
05:50.53Kirkburnta
05:50.55Sky2042sure jiyambi, though that should really just be a category
05:51.13Jiyambihehe
05:51.15Sky2042laurlybot did
05:51.20Jiyambiwell should I make it go away or keep it?
05:52.01Sky2042go thru all the blue links and add [[category:Dun Morogh mobs]] to them, while also removing [[Category:Zone:Dun Morogh]] and [[Category:Mobs]] :)
05:52.09Sky2042then get rid of it
05:52.14Jiyambicheckeroonie
05:54.08Sky2042hmm
05:54.11Jiyambibah, they are all already in that category it seems
05:54.45Sky2042seriously?
05:55.12Sky2042ty mikk
05:55.18Sky2042I <3 you, you crazy singing bastard
05:55.31Sky2042if they are all in that cat already, just delete the page
05:55.37JiyambiYa he pretty much rocks my socks :)
05:55.56Jiyambik what about the leper gnome, it is a race page should it be in that cat or not? it is not atm
05:56.30JiyambiDo I use {{sd}} on the page?
05:56.47Sky2042good question
05:56.51Sky2042yeah, go ahead
05:57.36Jiyambiha, or you could do it :P
05:57.40Sky2042:P
05:57.46Sky2042my connexion might die
05:57.50Sky2042so dont freak if i dc :X
05:58.10Jiyambiwhat about that vendor and trainer page? seems pointless to me since the List of NPCs has vendors and trainers listed clearly
05:59.39Sky2042they might not all be listed
06:00.01Jiyambihmmm *goes to check*
06:00.03Sky2042i'd double check
06:00.05Sky2042lol
06:00.11Sky2042jiyambi: varghedin 2.0
06:00.13Sky2042this is awesome
06:01.50Jiyambihmm?
06:02.52JiyambiI somehow doubt the validity of some of these vendors....
06:03.10Sky2042go ahead and double check :)
06:04.48Sky2042kirkburn: raze removed [[Scourge]] in an earlier edit. think it should be readded?
06:05.25Jiyambiwell thott says http://www.thottbot.com/c1352 "Fluffy" the rabbit is a vendor....
06:05.48KirkburnHmm, not sure, it's an odd one
06:05.56Sky2042Maybe not.*
06:06.06Sky2042(at jiyambi)
06:06.26KirkburnGiven up on the titan template? :P
06:06.34Sky2042i'll be back to it
06:06.44Sky2042got sidetracked, and i don't even remember how
06:07.19JiyambiHa I am being a needy newbie
06:07.44KirkburnThe thought occurs ... an http://www.wowwiki.com/Undead nav box might be appropriate
06:07.52JiyambiLooks like that vendor data was pulled from Thott and has a bunch of stupid anomolies, when matched up with wowhead those weird ones dont show as vendors
06:08.11Sky2042and no, that info was pulled from armory
06:08.17JiyambiOh? hrm
06:08.26Sky2042the comments on the page say the rabbit sells rabbits
06:08.33Sky2042on thott
06:08.47Jiyambihmmmm but Wowhead doesn't show it selling anything...
06:09.20Jiyambino the comments look like they say the lady sells the rabits, not the bunny
06:09.42Jiyambihttp://www.thottbot.com/c1263
06:10.04Sky2042eh
06:10.16Sky2042if in doubt, go with wowhead.
06:10.21Sky2042god, i love skosiris :D
06:10.26Jiyambi<PROTECTED>
06:11.21Sky2042baggins is gonna come after me for that edit if he hears about it
06:12.43KirkburnEr, yeah
06:12.44KirkburnWhy?
06:13.10Sky2042i got rid of a small, rpg article for a merge into maraudon
06:13.12Sky2042oh well
06:14.22Jiyambishould a demon trainer be listed under vendors since they sell grimoires? (or however you spell it)
06:14.49Sky2042yah
06:15.03Jiyambikk
06:15.21Sky2042kirkburn: which would you suggest collapsing on Bael Modan? titans or barrens subzones?
06:16.14KirkburnOoh, dunno
06:16.24KirkburnSubzones
06:16.28Sky2042i think i'll collapse titans.... lol
06:18.37KirkburnWeirdo :)
06:20.34Jiyambiwow this actually was worth it, I found a few vendors that were not listed
06:20.42Sky2042:]
06:20.49Jiyambihehe you're a vendor
06:22.07Sky2042Sky?
06:22.18Sky2042yeah... i had a whole set of gems named after me :X
06:22.33Sky2042Skyfire is my toons name, back from when I started him in the beginning of 2005.
06:23.06Sky2042oh, i know why it looks offcenter to me kirkburn
06:24.04Sky2042none of the templates on wikipedia are align center, they're all justfied left
06:27.29Sky2042anyways kirkburn done
06:27.48Kirkburnwoot
06:30.46JiyambiK I made sure all the vendors/trainers were listed and put those two articles on speedy delete
06:31.10Sky2042damn, i wish i could get template:column to work :(
06:31.17Sky2042heh, sweet
06:32.21Sky2042i think the thing that's missing for template:column is the div.column class, but i'm not sure if that's something the wiki should have innately, or what :|
06:36.34JiyambiI made the Dun Morogh page pretty
06:36.55Jiyambiand now.... bedtime
06:38.02KirkburnUgh @ Baldr
06:38.05KirkburnNight Jiyambi
06:38.48Sky2042night jiyambi
06:39.07JiyambiI made a page for the quest list for Dun Morogh but I'm stubbing it for now, I will finish it next week when I get back from my camping trip. Hope thats okay
06:39.31Sky2042nps
06:39.35Jiyambianyways night guys, thanks for the help and company :)
06:39.40Sky2042leave a note on the talk page that you're going to work on it though :)
06:39.42Kirkburn{{main|article}}, people!
06:39.49Sky2042yes, we knows
06:39.56Kirkburn:{{icon-shortcut}}''Main article: [[List of Dun Morogh NPCs]] makes me cry :)
06:40.18Jiyambimy bad
06:40.53JiyambiCan we make AlsoSee look like the main article one? That is my main issue
06:41.14Jiyambithey just need to look alike >_<
06:41.21Sky2042I'll fix all the usages of {{Seealso}} and then un-redirect it
06:41.24Kirkburnhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Template_talk:Main
06:41.48Sky2042it currently redirects to AlsoSee, but with some tweaking of the pages that still use it, we can start using {{Seealso}}
06:41.51Kirkburn{{SeeAlso}} makes so much more sense
06:42.01Sky2042and no capsing kirkburn
06:42.08KirkburnWell, whichever
06:42.20Jiyambiyuppers Seealso = good
06:42.27Jiyambianyways i go bed for reals now
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06:42.54Sky2042truly, varghedin 2.0
06:42.58Sky2042:D
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06:44.54Bagginswwin my apartment, stealing off someone's wireless internet cough LOL
06:45.18Bagginswwno A/C :(
06:45.41Sky2042lol
06:45.47Sky2042you're about to get hit by a hurricane. ;)
06:45.54Bagginswwfun
06:46.09BagginswwI just knew a tsunami would hit when I got here LOL
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06:51.06Bagginswwso how big is it?
06:51.40Sky2042tropical storm atm
06:52.03Bagginswwyay :P
06:52.10Sky2042think its supposed to hit in a week-2 weeks, iirc what my mother said
06:52.33Bagginswwhmm
06:53.51Bagginswwbaldr :p
06:54.00Sky2042yeah, kirkburn went after him
06:55.53Bagginswwhe is a kind of a mix of zarnks and theron the just as far as arguements :p
06:56.10Bagginswwand type of information removal
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06:58.26KirkburnYeah, except that instead of buffing the Horde, he nerfs the Alliance
06:58.55KirkburnWait, no power, yet there's wireless net?
06:59.02KirkburnOh, air conditioning
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06:59.28Bagginswwya no a/c :p
06:59.49Bagginswwit certainly wasn't mentioned in the brochure LOL
07:00.34KirkburnHmm, korialstrasz
07:00.59Bagginswwbtw the wrpg quote on orc hunters is in reference to hunter class, not hunting in general LOL
07:01.08Bagginswwso while baldr was partially correct
07:01.15Bagginswwhe missed the point
07:02.02KirkburnYou weren't around to ask :P
07:02.12Bagginswwya, LOL
07:03.50Sky2042there was another you're supposed to double check baggins...
07:04.07Sky2042http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Naga#Intelligence
07:04.27Bagginswwbut ya we know orcs were hunting before they ever came to Azeroth. But just because one can hunt doesn't necessarily mean they have the hunter class. Just ask what's his name and his son that has you hunt for him :p
07:04.49Bagginswwrpg does mention it
07:05.27Bagginswwneed to install pdf to get you a quote
07:05.55Bagginswwadobe reader
07:06.25Bagginswwdon't have access to monster guide right now though, hope pdf is released soon :p
07:07.25Bagginswwof course its not something that's 100% its just general rule.
07:08.49Sky2042!jobqueue
07:08.51[NewsBot]The www.wowwiki.com job queue length is currently 0
07:09.45Bagginswwhmm looks like the pdf might be out now
07:10.55KirkburnI'm off
07:11.06KirkburnG'night all
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07:11.13Bagginswwgnight
07:11.25Sky2042night
07:11.57Kirkburn|sleepbefore I go, undead nav box! hint, hint :P
07:12.13Adys|sleepnn kirk, nn ppl
07:12.22Sky2042ack at question marks
07:14.49Kirkburn|sleepnight adys
07:50.51Bagginswwhttp://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Baggins
07:55.10Bagginswwsky I'm specifically referring to the post on sentience/sapience by foogray at the bottom
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07:57.12Sky2042i know what's wrong finally
07:57.22Sky2042someone's coding the bar on the left wrongly
08:01.59Sky2042whoamygod
08:04.05Bagginswwhmm
08:06.56Sky2042jebus kirkburn, go to bed
08:07.05Sky2042its 1:00
08:07.07Bagginswwhe's still editing?
08:07.24Bagginswwlol
08:07.31Sky2042so am i >.>
08:07.52Sky2042what time is it there? 10 or 11?
08:08.43Bagginsww10
08:08.55Bagginsww10:09 or so
08:09.14BagginswwI'm adjusting pretty well. the three week vacation helped alot
08:09.37Bagginswwwell 2 weeks technically
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08:10.59BagginswwIt could also be because I was staying up to like 3 in the morning back home anyways LOL
08:10.59ws_I have a question - what's the cost of upgrading items bought for honor from Warsong Battleground?
08:11.25ws_like, I am level 18, I'd buy some items, then would I have a discount for upgrading later on level 28?
08:11.41Sky2042no ws_
08:11.49Sky2042costs full price at level 28
08:12.18ws_thank you Sky2042
08:12.26Sky2042np
08:12.37ws_wowwiki confused me slightly (along with blizzard's webpage) as they say both about "upgrading"
08:13.50Sky2042ok, i really don't think being able to become a firelord is possible.
08:14.29Sky2042hey kirkburn|sleep, are you or aren't you there?
08:15.09ws_that's a bit bad news for a little gnome who made alll the way from Alkazam to Warsong entrance, lol
08:15.20ws_as I won't need these items in a few levels anyway
08:15.21ws_but well
08:15.23Sky2042lol
08:15.29Sky2042lrn2hearth :P
08:15.31ws_it might come handy in the meantime
08:15.39Sky2042get your pvp trinket instead
08:15.46Sky2042if you can :|
08:15.47ws_not on level 18 I believe
08:17.38Bagginswwsky you should add "possible hero classes" based on rpg too
08:18.00ws_ah, you're right Sky2042
08:18.09ws_it has no level limit, just honor points
08:18.12Sky2042yeah bagginsww, i had planned to
08:18.26Bagginswwheh
08:18.55Bagginswwof course there is some crossover between thet wo
08:18.56Bagginsww*two
08:19.18Bagginswwanything considered a "prestidge class" is as close to a hero class the rpg has imo.
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08:21.44Sky2042added the ones from S&L
08:22.28Bagginswwk
08:23.15Bagginswwno reason to add the  "epic" ones of course. I doubt they'd go that way :p
08:23.56Sky2042maybe, maybe not
08:24.12Bagginswwthough druid of the wild is the druids that are already in game btw, ;)
08:24.27Bagginswwwell the lone druid version
08:24.40Bagginswwrpg allows them to have animal companions like hunters
08:24.50Bagginswwunless they go the lone druid route
08:24.53Sky2042just addin classes silly. :P you can have it when i'm done
08:25.00laurlywtf are we laging agian?
08:25.00Bagginswwlol
08:25.48winkillerthe more I hang out in here the more I ask myself how sensible it is to compare lore to wow
08:26.06winkillerno one else ever wondered about lore/system on other rpg systemsa
08:26.07Sky2042huh@winkiller
08:26.18winkilleras the devs deliberately takeportions and leave out others
08:26.26Bagginswwhmm?
08:26.30winkillertake all the AD&D stuff like BG and NWN
08:26.46BagginswwI never played those unfortunatley
08:26.52winkilleryou can't guess shit of new games/addons by reading AD&D books
08:27.01winkilleror planescape:torment
08:27.12winkillerthey took the city and some stuff . voila, game
08:27.15Bagginswwhmm I forgot to type one out?
08:27.19[NewsBot]GamePolitics: http://gamepolitics.com/2007/08/10/rhode-island-attorney-general-partners-with-esrb-in-ad-campaign/
08:27.31winkillerok, Blizzard is creator of lore AND game, that's unique
08:27.48Bagginswwhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Enchanter_lore
08:27.54winkillerbut still, I wouldn't draw many conclusions about wow just from lore
08:27.55Sky2042gg
08:28.52winkillerbut whatever :P
08:30.54Sky2042hmm, wonder where m&m went..
08:31.19Bagginswwhmm
08:32.08Bagginswwthe "alchemist" prestidge class is apparently discussed in MM&M as well, but under the topic of alchemy
08:32.30BagginswwI just haven't found how to seperate the info from it as of yet :p
08:33.56Sky2042http://www.wowwiki.com/Hero_class
08:34.17Sky2042where did warlord come from?
08:34.59Bagginswwhmm its reference to position thrall holds
08:35.05Bagginswwnot an rpg class as far as I remember
08:35.10Sky2042oh good
08:35.24Sky2042hmm, sorcerer sounds a likely name
08:35.26Sky2042lol
08:35.48laurlyim afraid to look at the bots do categories wonder what pcj did last night...
08:35.50Bagginswwwishes there was a sorcerer equivalent in modern rpg :p
08:35.56Sky2042illidan and medivh were both sorcerers...
08:36.27Bagginswwboth sorcerer and wizard were not converted to WoW RPG
08:36.42Bagginswwgot replaced with generic mage basically
08:37.01Sky2042qq
08:37.22Bagginswwmage is a kind of inbetween class sharing a little of what sorcerer and wizards were, plus summoning of familiars as well
08:39.09Sky2042bagginsww, if you ever have anymore long lists of words, feel free to use {{col-start}}, {{column}}, and {{col-end}} :]
08:39.11BagginswwI've heard of people converting sorcer and wizard on their own, said they were kinda weak and need some more tweaks to make them truly useful.
08:39.49Bagginswwlong lists of words?
08:40.34Sky2042long lists of anything
08:41.12Bagginswwhmm auto asterix?
08:41.18Sky2042like http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Darnassian&curid=14806&diff=807508&oldid=772732&rcid=724381
08:41.51Bagginswwoh I see puts them into two columbs
08:41.54Bagginsww*columns
08:41.59Bagginswwside by side?
08:42.08Sky2042yah
08:42.29Bagginswwnifty way to shortern bloated sections
08:42.30Sky2042you can use {{column}} as many times as you wish, but I'd hold off at 5 or 6ish times per spot
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08:42.51Sky2042hmm... i have to import the documentation for that
08:45.47Sky2042you can also adjust width baggins, if you need to
08:47.53Bagginswwahh, I'll try to remember
08:48.57Sky2042http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Col-start
08:48.59Sky2042documentation
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08:49.02Sky2042pretty simple
08:53.13laurlyquestion:should i have the bot delete qued rows or save them and just mark them as processed. will we ever need to go back and check something she has done?
08:54.48Sky2042queued?
08:54.53Sky2042oh
08:55.00Sky2042um... go ahead and delete
08:55.26laurlyshe everthing you msg her via irc so should be able to track down who sent the msg.
08:56.59[NewsBot]GamePolitics: http://gamepolitics.com/2007/08/10/vgvn-urges-stop-schwarzenegger-campaign/
08:59.04Bagginswwsky that really should be tabled
08:59.20Bagginswwmuch like we have done for eredun for example
08:59.27Sky2042but it is tabled
08:59.29Sky2042:]
08:59.40Sky2042oh
08:59.40BagginswwI mean the same style
08:59.42Sky2042i see
08:59.52Sky2042ah well, someone else can fix it :O
09:00.00BagginswwI've converted alot of the languages so far, it takes alot of time LOL
09:00.00Sky2042not my fault!
09:00.05Sky2042heh
09:00.14Bagginswwvorbis was supposed to do it :p
09:01.07Sky2042anywhere else you can think of that has an enormous list?
09:01.51Sky2042yup
09:02.08Bagginswwnot off the top of my head sorry
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09:06.14Sky2042huh
09:06.23bizkutaw
09:06.58bizkuthttp://www.osgeeks.net/wow <-- my new server
09:08.24Sky2042i'm tempted...
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09:10.29Sky2042hmmm
09:12.44winkiller!summon foxlit
09:12.57winkilleranyone knows if you can still be "Scarab Lord" on a new server?
09:14.00Sky2042oh
09:14.09Sky2042i think if you attain the scepter now you gain the title
09:14.20Sky2042regardless of whether you opened or closed it
09:15.02winkillerI think so too
09:15.12winkillerbut foxlit scrapped it from "current titles"
09:17.11Bagginswwthey should add flight mode to the rest of the world, fix the places where itw ould look bad
09:17.25Bagginswwand keep it at that high level requirement
09:24.47Sky2042i thought that might happen...
09:29.08winkillernever
09:31.27Bagginswwonly if they ever decide to put some new high level zones in the moutains
09:32.07Bagginswwsomething akin to ogril'la, and the like
09:32.43Bagginswwwould be cool if they had a quest node at the airport heh heh
09:36.27Bagginswwbtw sky the MG has a list of  two kinds of "artifacts", minor and major
09:37.18Bagginswwanother difference where the terminology/game mechanics differer between the two games
09:37.32Bagginsww*another example
09:47.00[NewsBot]GamePolitics: http://gamepolitics.com/2007/08/10/gamer-debate-videos-gaining-momentum/
09:56.47laurlywtf no way you get that much rep http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=5641
09:57.02Sky2042haha
09:57.18laurlygranted i proably did the quest 2+ years ago not that i would remember
09:58.50Sky2042but you're right
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09:58.53Sky2042there's' something up there
09:59.00Sky2042bug skosiris when he gets back on
09:59.40laurlyim still hiding from him
09:59.57laurlybot didnt export it right either http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:A_Lack_of_Fear
10:01.44laurlyahh such a good little bot she makes the disambig pages so well... http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:The_Encroaching_Wilderness
10:01.44laurlybye
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10:57.00bizkuthttp://www.osgeeks.net/wow <-- please test my new server
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11:08.54laurly100kr for one phone call /me hits teenager over the head with a phone bill.
11:10.26Demetriousbizkut: What's in there to test?
11:16.38bizkutDemetrious, the wow private
11:16.41Kasobizkut, has a link to the xhtml/css validator
11:16.48Kasowhich when you click on it shows 15 errors!
11:16.59bizkutlol
11:17.01bizkut:P
11:17.18bizkuti got the scrip from sf.net
11:17.27Demetriousbizkut: Wow private? It seemed like a default Mango installation to me.
11:17.39bizkutyes test svn
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11:28.46winkillerhu?
11:29.02JunkHead-Workwah?
12:05.00[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/10/breakfast-topic-what-drink-is-your-class/
12:11.15pcjbizkut, see topic, talking about emu servers is not allowed
12:13.33winkillerinteresting, all policies I ever encountered banned talk on private servers, not the emu software itself
12:13.53winkillerbrings back the interesting question if protocols can be trademarked
12:15.04pcjit is a violation of the ToU to connect the WoW client to anything but an official WoW server
12:15.48winkillerhm, ToU aren't exactly legally important
12:15.55winkillerwell, maybe in the US
12:15.56winkiller:P
12:17.00winkillerfunny thing is, on another MMO (Ragnarok Online) various open source emu server implementations worked better than the original
12:17.05tetsuo86haha, only because it costs too much to sue all of us
12:17.15winkilleras in: less memory and cpu used and more stable :P
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12:42.21bizkutfunny thing is, on another MMO (Ragnarok Online) various open source emu server implementations worked better than the original <--- then, the original WoW server uses antrix or mangos?
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12:59.52ws_can you have two pvp trinkets (i.e. separate cooldowns)?
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13:07.30[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/10/caption-this-vote-for-winners/
13:14.36Kasows_ no both Insignia and Medallion share cooldowns
13:17.35laurlyi broke the bot...
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13:33.00[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/10/insider-trader-a-little-respec/
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14:05.02[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/10/around-azeroth-leveling-fishing/
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14:08.28PolarinaWhy do people say Direct3D mode in Wine sucks with WoW?
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14:11.53PolarinaI hope they wont apply the PTR patch on the live realms next Wednesday.
14:14.12PolarinaBut the greatest thing of all, I can have the sound buffer size set to the default amount (50) without problems. :D
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14:17.31[NewsBot]MMO Champion: The Ashbringer ... Again. - http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=668.0
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14:21.07PolarinaBut what's the difference between Billinear and Trillinear?
14:21.22tetsuo86one uses two passes while the other uses three I believe
14:21.41tetsuo86it is about how many passes your graphics buffer makes on each phase
14:22.02tetsuo86Trillinear will give you better results, but at a higher cost
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14:22.30PolarinaPasses?
14:23.20tetsuo86yeah. When it renders the graphics, it makes rendering passes each one giving the images a progresvely getter look
14:23.31tetsuo86kind of like....putting mroe coats of paint on a house?
14:23.41tetsuo86it costs you more, but it also looks better
14:24.06tetsuo86so you have to balance how much graphics power you have to spare against how much you care about your graphics quality
14:24.20tetsuo86it really isn't THAT huge of a difference unless you are really paying attention
14:24.32Polarina"Enables high quality filtering of texture maps" says in the tooltip. It doesn't really match your description.
14:24.58tetsuo86yeah it does.....
14:25.16tetsuo86the textures are rendered onto the world models...right?
14:25.42PolarinaYes.
14:25.46tetsuo86okay
14:26.03tetsuo86the renderer can take one, two, or three passes at doing that
14:26.10tetsuo86each pass increases the quality of the texture
14:26.15PolarinaCan I set it to one pass?
14:26.21tetsuo86sure
14:26.24tetsuo86it isn't as nice
14:26.29PolarinaIn WoW I mean.
14:26.31tetsuo86that would be linear I believe
14:26.36tetsuo86I don't know if they have that enabled
14:28.25PolarinaOh..
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14:35.27PolarinaI get better performance with Trillinear enabled.
14:37.55tetsuo86awww
14:38.18tetsuo86better performance or better quality?
14:38.56PolarinaBoth.
14:39.24tetsuo86that is probably because you have a nicer gfx card
14:39.27PolarinaThe FPS difference with everything at highest and lowest is just 1.5 FPS.
14:39.36PolarinaI have Nvidia GeForce 6200.
14:39.41tetsuo86yeah
14:39.46tetsuo86what is the memory size?
14:39.50Polarina128MB.
14:39.59tetsuo86where are you in the game?
14:40.05PolarinaShattrath City.
14:40.19tetsuo86the more models it has to render, the more you will see the difference
14:40.27tetsuo86but with your computer, you may not care
14:40.40PolarinaShattrath City is a very heavy and big place.
14:40.47tetsuo86I know...
14:40.57tetsuo86your CPU and system ram also play into this
14:41.04PolarinaI have a 1.8 GHz CPU. :)
14:41.11Polarina768 MB RAM.
14:41.18tetsuo86hmm
14:41.26tetsuo86well I don't know why it doesn't make a difference on yours
14:41.33tetsuo86does it say you have to restart for the setting to take effect
14:41.36tetsuo86sometimes you do
14:41.40Polarina500 MHz GPU. :)
14:41.50PolarinaI did restart.
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14:42.04tetsuo86weird
14:42.06tetsuo86whatever
14:42.07tetsuo86ahaha
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14:42.34PolarinaBut 7 FPS is good enough for me. :)
14:46.24tetsuo86hahah
14:46.41tetsuo86mine usually hangs our around 28
14:46.54Polarinao.O
14:48.51PolarinaIn Halaa it says "Guards Remaining: 40/15"! Is that a bug or?
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15:03.22pcjwtf http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:Whatlinkshere&target=Server:Grim_Batol_Europe/Progression/PvE_WoTLK
15:03.47laurlypcj bots a bit broke and i have company comming nothing will run until tomrrow.
15:04.04pcjshould be interesting
15:04.43laurlyhttp://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Quest:Watcher_Leesa%27oh/Quest_chain&action=history <--- but she notes who tags the page now
15:07.32[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/10/blizzcon-profession-recap-featuring-inscription/
15:11.26TecnoBratmorning everyone
15:11.56BitStringyo
15:13.20deltronyo
15:16.31tetsuo86hey
15:16.40tetsuo86my cubemate is really annoying me
15:20.12laurlymorning ?  time diff in this channel is weird....
15:20.51KasoCubemate?
15:20.54Kasoyou live in a cube?
15:20.58KasoYou *share* a cube?
15:21.16Kasolaurly
15:21.17Kaso~ugt
15:21.18infobotwell, ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html
15:21.44laurlyKaso ?
15:21.44tetsuo86sorry
15:21.46tetsuo86haha
15:21.51tetsuo86yeah, I share a cube with someone
15:21.57Kasolaurly, read infobot!
15:22.00tetsuo86it is a double-wide cube in my employers defense
15:22.13laurlyLOL
15:22.34KasoIs it a *proper* cube, or a boring old "cubicle"
15:22.48Kasocos if all it's walls are the same size then that'd be awesome
15:22.58tetsuo86well I don't know what proper means, but I think it is 6x10
15:23.01laurlyhttp://www.wowwiki.com/User:Laurlybot/Sandbox/npc  <--- bot does faction now to :) isnt she a good little bot
15:23.51laurlythink if i stoped adding stuff to the bot we would get the pages created sooner :)
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15:33.22Fisker-Anyone remember the name of the MicroMenu frame?
15:36.10KasoMainMenuBarMicroButtons
15:36.13Kasoi think you mean
15:36.46Fisker-nope
15:37.02Fisker-MainMenuBar apparently is, but it can apparently taint the UI
15:37.04Fisker-so that's no good
15:41.13Fisker-DOH
15:41.19laurlyCowTip.lua do i wana know?
15:41.45Fisker-tooltip addon
15:41.49Fisker-it's made of win
15:46.46laurlyyou guys dont know of a friends add on that lets you have more then 50?
15:47.16amrothat's handled serverside so unless it /whos periodically it wont work
15:47.17Fisker-nope, don't need it :P
15:47.41laurlyahh
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15:49.12tetsuo86Do you guys read www/xkcd.com?
15:49.18tetsuo86www.xkcd.com rather
15:49.32Kasoyes
15:50.09Kasotoday's alt-text is awesome
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16:05.00[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/10/wow-moviewatch-ruler-of-the-bracelet-prologue/
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16:15.17pcjslooowwiki
16:16.27Malgaynelol
16:16.39MalgayneEvery time I log in in the morning that's always the first thing I see
16:21.56jmeEven with the search parties scouring Outland atop their avian mounts, no one could find any trace of Mankrik's wife
16:22.00jmehaha
16:22.15jmewow that's a close poll
16:25.25deltronman
16:25.33deltronthat windfury totem nerf is going to suck
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16:26.32Taurmindoanyone know if the bug that didn't allow draenei characters with Wintersaber Trainers exalted to buy their mounts?
16:27.21Kasocontact a gm about it
16:27.28Kasothey should be able to fix that one up
16:28.10Taurmindowell, they don't really.. have been reported for quite a while, i just thought if anyone knew if it was fixed, so i can alter that on the http://www.wowwiki.com/Wintersaber_Trainers
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16:29.44deltronhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=942924405&sid=1&pageNo=1 <-- boo
16:35.01[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/10/live-performance-in-a-virtual-world/
16:35.50BoubouilleFisker-
16:36.12Boubouillequery !
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16:43.45pcjhello
16:44.11ws_hey pcj
16:46.33jmedeltron: yeah, that nerf is going to piss a lot of people off
17:00.16Fisker-You can't make a macro supress errors only for that macro right?
17:07.32[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/10/liquidors-rep-calculator-works-for-us-realms-too/
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17:30.01pcjslooowwiki
17:30.20ws_oh, so shaman is now officially the solo-only class?
17:30.48pcji thought that was rogue
17:31.12ws_apart for two things
17:31.31ws_locked stuff
17:31.44ws_and these melee groups with rogues and ... can't remember, druid?
17:31.54ws_no, dunno
17:35.10ws_I'm a newbie, I don't know actually, so I'm just repeating what I read whilst waiting for bg, lol
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17:38.30deltronlol
17:38.37deltronws_: elemental shaman!!!
17:40.23deltronglad I went elemental than enh this time around :D
17:40.49jmearen't dps warriors going to be hurt the most?
17:41.11Bagginswwwonders if there is a connection between storm giants and vrykul
17:41.32Bagginswwlast we learned of storm giants there was talk of the scourge trying to invade their territory
17:41.44Bagginswwperhaps they have been assimilated?
17:45.38Apollozeusno
17:46.00ApollozeusI don't think blizzard would have announced the vrykul to be a 'new race', in that case
17:46.17Bagginswwwell they are a "new race" if they are no longer storm giants
17:46.29Bagginswwwe may not even see the storm giants at this point
17:48.15Bagginswwits also interesting to note that at the time Brann was exploring he seemed to know more about valgarde yet knew nothing about the vrykul
17:48.44Bagginswwand that at the time valgarde was mainly populated by alliance races
17:50.42Bagginswwmaybe they were from the remote islands
17:50.55BagginswwHe mentioned but never got to explore
17:52.04Bagginswwsylvanas still has her plague then... ouch...
17:52.26Bagginswwhope it doesn't have secondary component she had planned
17:52.32Bagginswwto wipe out the living too...
17:53.46Apollozeusthat would destroy all warcraft lore
17:54.13Apollozeuswell, at least the WoW lore
17:54.29Apollozeusbecause that effectively means their retreat from the horde
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17:56.26KirkburnMy first time using Linux :O
17:56.38Apollozeuszomg!
17:57.07KirkburnAbsolutely no idea how it works
17:57.17DemetriousKirkburn: It just does. :)
17:57.20KirkburnAlso, this is GAIM, I think
17:57.46Fisker-around linux never relax
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17:58.29Bagginswwappolo the life killing component would probably just be covered in alliance quests against forsaken
17:58.42Bagginswwjust like they were back in Ashenvale :p
17:59.01Bagginswwhorde would be pretty much clueless on the issue just thinking they were spreading a scourge killing plague :p
17:59.24Bagginswwsame story format followed back in original WoW LOL
18:05.01[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/10/ashbringer-quest-in-utgarde-keep/
18:05.07BagginswwI doubt sylvanas will turn on her alliance of convenience until she's killed all her enemies first.
18:05.23Bagginswwfrom a WoW perspective that will never happen
18:07.02ApollozeusI doubt she'll be in the horde forever though
18:08.32Fisker-lol
18:08.47Fisker-they mistakenly called him lord fordring in that quest text
18:09.06Bagginswwapollo probably split from horde once they decide to make warcraft 4 lol
18:09.27BagginswwShe can be "kerrigan"
18:09.31Fisker-OH GOD
18:09.33Apollozeuskerrigan?
18:09.40Fisker-Tags: artifact, ashbringer, corruptedashbringer, lore, lorelol, mmochampion, oldhillsbrad, tirionfordring, utgardekeep, wrathofthelichking
18:09.42Fisker-please just gtfo
18:09.43Fisker-:(
18:10.15Bagginswwwell sylvanas ultimate plan was to become the new leader of the Scourge
18:10.28Bagginswwkerrigan in starcraft became the new leader of the zerg
18:10.55Bagginswwso basically they have a villain if they decided to kill off arthas in WoW
18:13.10Bagginswwstill I doubt you could actually "kill" the lich king... Its very hard to completely destroy an entity of pure evil...
18:13.22Bagginswwbesides he already died...
18:16.17Bagginswwplus there is a nasty possibility that she might kill arthas body, and but become the new host to the lich king
18:16.32Bagginswwupon taking the sword and armor
18:17.20Fisker-obviously they won't do that for gameplay reasons :P
18:18.04KirkburnYou never know ^^
18:18.22Fisker-they already told that exact story at blizzcon
18:19.13Bagginswwwell the comic is going to fill in on events that are player controlled and give the "true" story.
18:19.25Bagginswwat least that's the long time plan
18:24.03[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/10/the-care-and-feeding-of-warriors-another-tanking-class-can-be/
18:24.34Adys|xchatFisker-: PING PING PING
18:25.03KirkburnI hate GAIM ><
18:25.03LysistrataHi I don't have a idea where I put my Login so maybe someone would be so kind to fix the apge? http://www.wowwiki.com/Blood_Tiger_Shoulders
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18:28.06KirkburnIt's a problem with the set page
18:28.12KirkburnI have no idea how those are set up
18:28.37pcjI'd fix it, but the wiki's being slow for some odd reason
18:29.02AdysFISKER WAAAAKE UPPPP
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18:41.21DuTempetehowdy!
18:41.32Malgayne_Hi there
18:41.52Malgayne_What's up?
18:42.06DuTempeteI wanted to discuss www.wowwiki.com/Template:Infobox_talent
18:42.14DuTempetenot much, Malgayne_
18:42.53Malgayne_Hrm
18:43.14Malgayne_"This link uses the protocol: www.wowwiki.com/Template, which will in turn launch an unknown application.  Are you sure you want to continue?
18:43.21Bagginswwkirkburn someone tried to insert use of "canon"?
18:43.36DuTempeteI'd like to add a separate line for talent tree, and for tier, as well as add a line for level required under requirements
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18:43.53DuTempetehi Bagginsww :)  How ya doing, today?
18:44.00Bagginswwpretty good
18:44.22Bagginswwa few more days until I schedule my classes
18:44.39DuTempetenice, yeah, I'm trying to enjoy a bit of a vacation, as well
18:44.56DuTempetebeen running around trying to get my next job set up, though
18:45.11Bagginswwheh
18:45.27DuTempeteI think I have everything ready to go, now, though
18:45.31Bagginswwso ya weather is nice in hilo, even the rain. unfortunately my apartment has no a/c :p
18:45.43DuTempetetook the training course, yesterday, and got my CPR license today
18:46.24DuTempeteack, left the water boiling!
18:47.03Kirkburnpcj, you're such a spammer
18:47.06pcjk
18:47.23DuTempetelol
18:47.24KirkburnHow much more is there to go?
18:47.35DuTempeteKirkburn!
18:47.36KirkburnOne hopes that laurlybot is not far behind
18:47.40KirkburnMorning
18:47.49DuTempeteafternoon!
18:47.52KirkburnFirefox just crashed on me
18:47.59KirkburnYay Linux >_>
18:48.02DuTempetelol
18:48.18DuTempeteWikia runs linux?
18:48.30KirkburnSome PCs do, yeah
18:48.32pcjnubs
18:48.33DuTempeteInteresting, I've never heard of a company using linux.
18:49.52DuTempeteKirk, what do you think about adding a "Tree" line to www.wowwiki.com/Template:Infobox_talent ?
18:50.45DuTempeteMaybe I"ll just leave it be, it'd be a lot of work to fix all the articles that have it...
18:51.06KirkburnIt's under location, surely
18:53.25LysistrataIs tehre a reason that so many different Sets show this Picture? http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Orc_Might.jpg
18:53.45LysistrataThere are quite a few Companys using Linux though mostly as Servers.
19:00.21Bagginswwwell take care everyone, logging off for a bit
19:04.35pcjslooowwiki
19:07.32[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/10/the-voices-of-azeroth/
19:09.33KirkburnIs laurlybot running?
19:13.18pcjDone tagging for now
19:13.23pcjThat takes way too long
19:13.55deltron[Hunter] Raptors can now learn Dash.
19:13.57deltronwhoa
19:21.29DuTempeteSo, I'm thinking of saying, "This is not Wowhead; not only is color welcome, it is encouraged!" as my comment for fixing this edit: http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Improved_Life_Tap&curid=24025&diff=0&oldid=805331
19:21.51DuTempeteDo you think that would be appropriate, Kirkburn?
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19:22.58DuTempeteI added in some of the things Gonzie removed, while keeping to the template.
19:23.02DuTempeteerr boilerplate, that is
19:23.06twoshadetodanyone else having problems connecting to the official warcraft site?
19:23.29DuTempeteI had some issues at the armory, earlier, twoshadetod
19:23.43twoshadetodI can't even get a ping reply
19:23.58twoshadetodIt's almost like Im blocked or something I can't get into any part of it, and I'm outta time :(
19:24.51DuTempetewell, take into consideration that their web servers are a little bogged due to WotLK traffic.
19:25.26twoshadetodany idea when that is gonna hit? or is it TBA?
19:25.46DuTempeteKirkburn knows about that better than I do.  He was at Blizzcon.
19:27.18DuTempeteI wouldn't be surprised to see it out at the begining of next year, though.
19:27.19pcjYou'd think if they announced it at Blizzcon it'd be known pretty well
19:27.34DuTempeteThey've said before that they wanted to release yearly expansions
19:27.52DuTempetewell I know they haven't released a definitive date, pcj. =P
19:28.08DuTempeteBut I'm sure somebody has wrangled a time period out of them.
19:28.40pcjI'm not sure Blizzard even knows when it'll be ready
19:33.01[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/10/forum-post-of-the-day-i-can-has-wow/
19:37.27twoshadetodbah freeserver until i can conncet but thats  a damned L2 toon
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20:03.49Bagginswheadphones now working
20:04.32Sky2042sweet
20:04.34pcjnice
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20:11.01[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/10/blizzcon-then-and-now/
20:14.00pcjwhere is foxbot
20:14.18Sky2042lol pcj
20:14.20Sky2042mefirst
20:16.37foxlitOver there, behind those bushes!
20:17.20foxlitQuick, get it before it runs away!
20:17.29pcjsrsly tho
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20:21.38Sky2042_i agree with pcj
20:21.49Sky2042_i didn't even get to use foxbot last time i asked to >_<
20:25.28foxlitThen again, there was a time you wanted it and then did nothing, Sky :)
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20:26.20Sky2042_yeah, that's my point foxlit
20:26.22Sky2042_XD
20:30.04foxlit!sup
20:30.05FoxbotThere are currently 0 queued operations.
20:30.46Sky2042_hah
20:31.29Sky2042_http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:Stubs/Item
20:31.31Sky2042_that one pcj
20:31.48Sky2042_most of them are from when kasobot went through
20:32.07foxlithttp://www.wowwiki.com/Malorne_Regalia :/
20:32.18foxlitWhose bright idea was it to pull the set tooltip into the set items list?
20:32.25Sky2042_not mine!
20:32.31Sky2042_why?
20:33.14foxlitLooks a bit odd
20:33.47Sky2042_it's liveable
20:34.03foxlitIt doesn't really belong
20:36.24Sky2042hey, foxlit, is there a command to ask foxbot what the item id for a given item is? say, !itemid Pendant of Battle-Lust, or something of the sort/
20:36.44foxlitNo, I think I killed that earlier
20:37.05Sky2042yah... why?
20:37.48foxlitWas part of the KasoBot redirect code, don't really have a use for that.
20:38.13foxlitI mean, there's a FindItemId function in the armory code, but I don't think it's exposed
20:38.17Sky2042eh
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20:38.36foxlitBah, too much code to write, too little time
20:38.47Sky2042lol
20:41.52Sky2042well. i didn't know that
20:42.04Sky2042oh, wait
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20:47.26pcj_42I'm from the future, and I've come to white at connection issues!
20:47.57Sky2042wtf?
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20:48.33foxlitit will eventually increment.
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20:50.12Sky2042we all know that everything converges at infinity to 42, no?
20:51.06foxlitlim x->inf, 0x = 0
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20:51.51pcj*yawn*
20:51.56Sky2042lim x->inf, 1/(x^2) = 0
20:52.15Sky2042lim x->inf, 1/x = inf
20:52.25Sky2042boggle!
20:52.29foxlitReally?
20:52.36Sky2042yup
20:52.40DuTempeteok, this is odd... www.wowwiki.com/Corruption_(spell) www.wowwiki.com/Shadowfury www.wowwiki.com/Death_Coil www.wowwiki.com/Fear
20:52.46DuTempeteWhere do people get these quotes from?
20:52.48foxlitC'mon, read that again.
20:53.01Sky2042i took it for sarcasm :P
20:53.06Sky2042the tcg dutempete
20:53.10Sky2042:]
20:53.15DuTempeteah
20:53.30DuTempetegeeks...
20:53.32foxlitlim x->inf, 1/x = 0
20:53.46Sky2042ack
20:53.47Sky2042gg me
20:53.49foxlitlim x->0, 1/x = inf
20:54.10Sky2042sigma x->inf, n=1, 1/x = inf
20:54.13foxlitAnd then there's that +- note that depends on from where you approach
20:54.13Sky2042>_<
20:54.45pcjI fell asleep way too often in calc 2
20:54.51Sky2042remind me never to write this out until ive learned latex ;_;
20:55.32foxlitI declare this the annoying math questions time!
20:56.18KirkburnAre you sure it's from the TCG?
20:56.51Sky2042usually
20:57.09Sky2042there are probably a few out there that aren't, but they still make nice flavor text
20:57.13KirkburnNobundo was adding them
20:57.27KirkburnOn spells, yes, but on pretty much anything else
20:57.53Sky2042i wouldn't know about "anything else"
20:58.07KirkburnHe added one to the Death knight page
20:58.58foxlit"Someone has calculated n^16 for all integer values of n from 1 to 100, and carefully written the last digit of each result on a piece of paper. How many different digits appear on this piece of paper?"
20:59.34Kirkburn100?
20:59.50foxlit"different"
21:00.07Kirkburn10 :P
21:00.15foxlitWhy 10? :)
21:00.25KirkburnHmm, maybe not
21:00.31Sky20425
21:00.38Sky2042no odd numbers ;)
21:00.46Sky2042oh wait
21:00.53Kirkburn1
21:01.10Kirkburn1 x 1 x 1 x 1... always one :)
21:01.10Sky2042evil reqding question
21:01.17KirkburnCould you get 6?
21:01.23Sky20422^16, kirk...
21:01.24Sky2042-_-
21:01.44KirkburnYes, I wasn't saying 1 was the answer :P
21:02.10Sky2042i would have to hazard a guess at 10, like my adminy type friend over there.
21:02.19foxlitThe 6, 36, 216, 1296, 6?
21:02.36KirkburnNo odd numbers, as you say
21:02.41Apollozeuswhy would anyone even bother to calculate all of that?
21:02.42Apollozeus:p
21:02.43KirkburnApart from 1, of course
21:02.52Sky2042lol
21:02.57Sky2042no
21:03.00Sky20425x5x5
21:03.09Kirkburn5^16
21:03.09foxlit9^16
21:03.09Sky20425^2 (even power) is 25
21:03.25Kirkburnargh
21:03.29KirkburnI give up
21:05.01foxlitWell, logically, 2, 4, 8, 6 are easy since they can all be expressed as 2^n
21:05.09foxlit(last digits of)
21:05.59foxlit0 comes from 10, 1 from 1
21:06.33foxlit3 is similar to 2: 3, 9, 7, 1
21:06.45foxlitWhich leaves us with 5, which does itself.
21:07.15foxlitSo Kirkburn wins :)
21:10.12Kirkburnwoo
21:12.58winkillerfoxlit: you removed "scarab lord" from current titles, are you sure one can't get it nowadays?
21:13.08foxlitActually, I didn't
21:13.10winkillereven on a new server
21:13.14winkillerhu?
21:13.29foxlithttp://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Title&diff=781098&oldid=780853
21:14.03foxlitI changed a few headers around to allow old redirects to work
21:14.05winkillerah, _noe_
21:14.07winkiller*w
21:14.21winkillerwhen I checked hours ago, it was just removed not moved
21:14.22winkillersorry :)
21:14.28foxlitI think AQ starts open on new servers
21:14.41winkillerhm, not sure
21:14.42foxlitnot sure what happens to the quest line
21:15.11pcjbe kind of silly past 2.0 to have to open AQ
21:15.24winkillersilly are many things
21:15.29foxlitBring me RED SNAPPAH!
21:17.08KirkburnApollozeus: "since this list also includes Outlandish high elves, this move only seems appropriate"
21:17.16KirkburnI love the idea of Outlandish elves
21:17.33Apollozeus<_<
21:17.41KirkburnI imagine them wearing feather boas and glitter
21:17.59Apollozeuscouldn't think of a better word meaning "from outland"
21:18.34Sky2042lol
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21:21.23pcji hate my router
21:22.23foxlitHm, I might actually be wrong
21:22.48foxlit3 isn't as easy, since it's actually (3^y)^16 which is being evaluated
21:23.12Sky2042except, then it's not to the 16th
21:23.32Sky2042it's (3^y)^(16/y)
21:23.36foxlitfoxlit: "Someone has calculated n^16 for all integer values of n from 1 to 100, and carefully written the last digit of each result on a piece of paper. How many different digits appear on this piece of paper?"
21:23.47Apollozeusmeh
21:23.50foxlitn = 3 ^ y was the preseumption
21:24.14ApollozeusDoes anyone know what the name of the broom model is in the PTR patch?
21:24.29foxlitAre you about to break the ToU? :)
21:25.38Apollozeusis using wow model viewer breaking the ToU?
21:26.10Fisker-i don't think so
21:26.18Fisker-Blizzard uses it anyways
21:26.34Apollozeuswell
21:26.40Apollozeusthat's what I'm about to do
21:26.45Apollozeusfitting chars on that broom mount
21:26.52Apollozeusproblem is, I can't find the name of that damn thing
21:26.56LysistrataOo" there are 10 different digits on the paper. 0-9 or is it about the "number of lines"?
21:27.03KirkburnSwift Broom Mount
21:27.28Apollozeusthat's not the model name, right?
21:27.30KirkburnOr not
21:27.32Kirkburnhttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=42679
21:27.38KirkburnSwift Flying Broom
21:27.59KirkburnI don't know what it's called in the MPQs
21:28.01[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/10/voice-chat-faq/
21:28.04foxlitSo what's with this ashbringer story?
21:28.11dreamss?
21:28.48Apollozeusnever mind
21:28.50Apollozeusfound it
21:29.01ApollozeusI loaded the wrong MPQ into the program :p
21:30.05Kirkburn"Voice masking is not currently available. This is a feature we are looking into and may consider for the future."
21:31.53Apollozeusvoice masking.. lol
21:32.03Sky2042yeah.. gotta wonder about that :|
21:32.14ApollozeusI'm not worried about that anyway
21:32.32Apollozeusvoice masking will just be another way for players to purposely annoy eachother
21:32.32foxlitThat'd be awesome, anyway
21:32.56foxlitif it actually works properly, it could be fun :P
21:33.01Apollozeusmeh
21:33.13ApollozeusI'd rather see they work on some actual content
21:33.14Apollozeus:P
21:33.22foxlitDone with BT yet?
21:33.51Sky2042ok, whatthefluxiswithmyinternet
21:34.27ApollozeusI don't mean post-BT content >_>
21:34.49foxlitWhat else could you possibly want? :)
21:36.33Apollozeuswell
21:36.39ApollozeusWLK? :P
21:36.52Sky2042lrn2 Wrath
21:37.37Kirkburnhttp://xkcd.com/262/
21:39.40Sky2042kirkburn: lol
21:40.18Sky2042damn
21:40.53fireglowhaha :D
21:41.07Sky2042im on ur kats, gluin my captionz
21:41.09Sky2042oh, shit
21:41.19Sky2042that would have been the funniest punchlin ever
21:41.23pcjwtf http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:Whatlinkshere&target=WoWWiki:The_New_Place%2C_Warcraft_Creativity_Center
21:41.32Thrae!tl
21:41.33ThraeBothttp://tinyurl.com/2ctq3u (pcj's link)
21:41.54Sky2042thrae, can we do !tl link?
21:42.05Sky2042i r wondering
21:42.34ThraeSkyboat: ThraeBot: t <link> [optional text]
21:42.44pcjskyboat lol
21:42.56Sky2042ouch
21:43.00Sky2042just... ouch
21:43.21ThraeThraeBot: t www.wowwiki.com
21:43.22ThraeBotThrae: http://tinyurl.com/9o8r5
21:43.52pcjthraebot: t abc.com
21:43.53ThraeBotpcj: http://tinyurl.com/3cgt
21:44.54Kirkburnhttp://www.llbbl.com/data/RPG-motivational/target242.html
21:46.23Kirkburnpcj, twas a stupid page
21:46.50pcjso http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32203 hasn't been found yet?
21:47.23KirkburnThraeBot: t tinyurl.com
21:47.24ThraeBotKirkburn: http://tinyurl.com/1zt
21:47.36Sky2042lol
21:47.50KirkburnClick it!
21:48.28KirkburnWhy the hell is Wowhead showing serif fonts for me :/
21:48.37KirkburnI don't want tooltips in some Times New Roman crap!
21:48.50KirkburnSkosiris: honk!
21:53.43Fisker-i found it pcj :o
21:53.58pcjwhat?
21:54.10Fisker-doh
21:54.18Fisker-thought you said meant it didn't exist
21:54.35pcjwell it hasn't been crafted yet...or something
21:55.24Fisker-my cat agrees
21:59.14Kirkburnawww
21:59.49Kirkburnhttp://www.llbbl.com/data/RPG-motivational/target242.html
21:59.54Kirkburnoops
22:00.11pcjSo...anyone have any idea what this guy is on? http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Legolas5802/Ruined_Blade_of_Mayhem
22:00.17Sky2042whaaaaaat?
22:00.19Sky2042LOL
22:00.25Kirkburnhttp://www.llbbl.com/data/RPG-motivational/target233.html
22:01.50foxlit"Vandalism of this page will get you put on the known vandals list."
22:02.05foxlit"That's right, buddy, vandalism on other pages won't get you put on the known vandals list!"
22:03.02Sky2042hmm
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22:03.37Kirkburngrr
22:03.52pcjAnyone have any idea why it's "Main Hand" but "One-Hand"?
22:04.17Sky2042no.
22:04.27Sky2042have a chat with blizzard about that
22:05.01[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/10/ask-wow-insider-do-you-optimize-your-rep-grinds/
22:05.36foxlitNot really, no
22:09.25Sky2042ay ay ay
22:17.05foxlitTags on this story are awesome: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/08/09/0412215
22:17.18foxlit"donotlookatlaserwithremainingeye"
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22:17.43KirkburnMy god, GAIM is crap
22:18.02KirkburnWorst. IRC. Client. Ever.
22:18.04foxlitpsst.
22:18.09Sky2042chatzilla ftw?
22:18.21foxlitThe very fact that you're complaining against "GAIM" means you're using outdated software
22:18.30foxlitWhich means you deserve every little bit of suffering coming to you! :)
22:18.40KirkburnI think it's GAIM
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22:19.03foxlitNot anymore, AOL got concerned about their trademarks again
22:19.06ggilbertI'm willing to bet the irc client in it hasn't gotten much better :)
22:19.32KirkburnI have no idea then
22:19.36KirkburnIt's still crap
22:19.40foxlitProbably not. Colloquy still beats everything :)
22:19.46foxlitIn fact, macs > *
22:20.48ggilbertI don't think there's much terribly wrong with gaim/pidgin over all. IRC and IM are just pretty different user experiences.
22:21.02foxlitlibpurple's fine
22:21.35foxlitNot sure what goes on in pidgin's irc, since pidgin doesn't run on this platform :(
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22:31.50foxlitMy lovely backpack has arrived :P
22:31.51foxlithttp://www.brenthaven.com/catalog-expandable-trek.html
22:34.14LysistrataHmmm I'm fine with my Eastpak which got a simple laptop "pocket"
22:34.30LysistrataBut yeha seems to be a nice bag ^^
22:35.01[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/10/is-the-beta-key-for-starcraft-ii-or-wotlk/
22:35.25foxlitsecret answer: "either, you choose"
22:35.47Sky2042lol
22:35.58foxlitMost normal backpacks sold around here are either too small or too ugly, sadly
22:36.45foxlitLysistrata: which Eastpak? :)
22:36.49pcjhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Poisons = Worthless template (y/n)?
22:37.11LysistrataHmmm I probably need to google a bit but just wait a moment.
22:37.12foxlitBoth, maybe
22:37.59foxlitIt seems local to [[Poisons]], but if the other pages get made :/
22:38.55Sky2042nah, it reflects how the engineering and stuff were set up. go ahead and delete
22:39.02Sky2042profs used to be set up*
22:39.58LysistrataI think that was the one. http://www.epacks.co.uk/item287.htm Mine does look a bit different I think but thats probably because it's three or so years oldnow.
22:40.42LysistrataIt's rather Big but it does what it is supossed to do: Carry my Laptop safly
22:41.14foxlitHm, more or less the same pocket design
22:41.51KirkburnSunday 11pm :O
22:42.04KirkburnDon't make wiki plans for then
22:42.22foxlitIs that the time I get Foxbot to blank all 700k pages? :)
22:42.43Kirkburn700,000
22:42.44Sky2042kirkburn, 1.10?
22:42.48KirkburnThat's a lot
22:42.56Sky2042and no, we don't have 700k pages -_-
22:42.57foxlitRandom number
22:43.05KirkburnFactor of 10 ^
22:43.07foxlitCan make some new ones and then blank them!
22:43.11Sky2042right around 100k, including redirects, talk pages, yadayadayada
22:43.26KirkburnYes, 1.10
22:43.29Sky2042sweet
22:43.56Lysistratasuperior idea foxlit: create random number pages to delete them.
22:44.02Apollozeushttp://www.wowwiki.com/Category:-garde
22:44.06Apollozeuswhat a weird category
22:45.03Sky2042could probably be category:keeps instead
22:45.29foxlitAre there not keeps whose names do not end in -garde?
22:45.46pcjTheramore
22:46.02pcjSouthshore
22:46.06pcjwhoops
22:46.08pcjnot southshore
22:46.41pcjmenethil
22:46.45foxlitThere's a sudden resurgence of {{wrath/bc-section}} /
22:46.51pcjstormwind keep
22:47.14foxlitWonder if we could sneakily change the formatting of the article title if it it's part of an expansion
22:47.43Sky2042yeah, foxlit
22:47.53Sky2042we could, if we wanted
22:48.14foxlitReally? :)
22:48.26Sky2042oh, wow
22:48.30Sky2042yeah
22:48.34foxlitWhat would you do? Float another layer over it? Javascript?
22:49.05Sky2042it used to be JS, but it looks like there are magic words for it now
22:49.11Sky2042http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Lowercase
22:49.15Sky2042as an example
22:49.49foxlitHm, cute
22:49.59pcjsos ur mom
22:50.01foxlitCould set up a bunch of spam classs that'd attach the relevant logo and add padding
22:50.36foxlitpcj: there are a number of retorts I can think of, but none of them are tasteful, so you get away with it this time.
22:50.42pcjyay!
22:51.01Sky2042wait... wait... so its the truth foxlit?
22:51.39foxlitWhat's the truth?
22:51.47foxlit"so's your mom" is rhetorical!
22:51.55Sky2042lol
22:51.57Sky2042nvm
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23:09.04ThraeBotThrae: OK, I will now only respond to commands in this channel when addressed by ThraeBot: <command>. Note the ! is not needed.
23:18.01[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/10/phat-loot-phriday-atiesh-greatstaff-of-the-guardian/
23:19.02foxlit"Nowdays, players go to Karazhan all the time, so it's not that big a deal, but back when this staff came out, no one had ever been there, and so cracking open a portal was pretty cool"
23:19.22pcjpfft kirkburn hasn't even been to karazhan
23:19.23foxlitAnother brilliant piece of investigative journalism by WoWInsider
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23:30.19TecnoBratFisker-, there is a nice healing ring you had
23:30.26TecnoBratit had decent int, stam, mp5 and healing
23:30.35TecnoBratnot the mag head one
23:30.42TecnoBratI dont remember where you said you got it
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23:37.16KirkburnHeh, "The Greatstaff of the Guardian! The staff of Medivh himself, shattered when Archimonde destoryed Dalaran! Reassembled from shards dropped by ancient demons and cleansed by the most powerful of Azeroth's heroes! And a vendor will give you 18g 45s 58c for it. Go figure."
23:41.01Kirkburnpcj: ta for doing welcoming stuff btw
23:41.18pcjit helps to patrol as well
23:41.39pcjif someone has a talk page already they more than likely aren't a vandal
23:41.50foxlit!sup
23:41.50FoxbotThere are currently 0 queued operations.
23:41.53foxlit!quit
23:41.53FoxbotBye!
23:42.09pcjdamn
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23:42.44foxlitMake a list of items you want to process somewhere :)
23:43.05pcjAnd you'll make Foxbot process that list when it comes on?
23:43.18foxlitEventually, that's the idea
23:43.33pcjOkay!
23:44.14foxlitNo guarantees about the format I want it in, so you're probably best served making an ordinary list somewhere on your userspace :)
23:44.27foxlitMeanwhile, good night :)
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