IRC log for #wowwiki on 20070724

00:00.10Fisker-LALALAA
00:00.13Fisker-i can't hear you
00:05.11AdysLooks like stuff works, more or less
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00:08.10foxlit"We disabled the electronic upgrade feature in order to make some improvements to the system, and at this time, we don’t have an estimate for when the feature will be re-enabled. This will be a long-term project, so for the time being, we encourage current trial account players to upgrade by purchasing a boxed copy of World of Warcraft, which can be found at retailers everywhere."
00:08.31foxlitAnd when we say "long term project", we think "Hero Classes-long term", otherwise known as "never!"
00:10.55Gryphenyou should add it to common adys with just color changes needed for wowwiki
00:11.19pcjI heard hero classes was getting released in conjunction with Starcraft: Ghost tho
00:11.28Kirkburnlol
00:13.30AdysIm not touching it up too much gryphen, never changed mediawiki's css/js before
00:13.52KirkburnIt's eeeasy
00:14.04KirkburnBesides if nothing it using a class/id it won't do anything
00:14.04Adysfisker, [[Category:Blizzard Avatars]] for personal blizzard avatars, [[Category:Forum Avatars]] for the general ones
00:14.12Kirkburns/it/is/
00:15.00Fisker-<PROTECTED>
00:15.00Fisker-<PROTECTED>
00:15.05Fisker-what teh hell!1
00:15.10Fisker-Adys i figured
00:15.17Fisker-you vandal Gryphen
00:16.03pcjwheel war imo
00:16.27Adysonoes
00:17.02Fisker-why do you keep changing the colours? :<
00:17.07KirkburnMe?
00:17.26Fisker-dunno
00:17.34Fisker-new was red, then it was green now it's golden
00:17.43KirkburnHeh
00:17.51KirkburnI was trying to find something nice
00:17.59KirkburnGryphen chose Artifact, I liked
00:18.02Fisker-wth edit wars Adys
00:18.24Fisker-http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Rhiovanna.gif <-Thiovanna doesn't actually exist? :P
00:18.39Fisker-and since it seems to be the avatar of all the Q&A folks it should go under forum avatars
00:18.42AdysShe does
00:18.48Adysits actually funny
00:18.54Adyssainterre for example uses the same avatar
00:19.01Adysbut its his own avatar
00:19.07Adysits just completely identical
00:19.15foxlitboo, namespace selector in RC is floating.
00:19.16Fisker-just different name?
00:19.18AdysRhiovanna does exist tho
00:19.26Adysyea
00:20.02Fisker-it should be sleep tiems for me
00:20.05Fisker-but it's not :<
00:20.10Adysi woke up at 1am
00:20.12Adyswhat else
00:20.47Fisker-btw Blizzard silently updated WoW with the launcher :O
00:20.51Adyshttp://forums.wow-europe.com/search.html?forumId=11213&characterId=165101816&sid=2
00:21.11Gryphennice kirk, finally heh
00:21.23KirkburnEveryone check your preferences page :D
00:21.41Fisker-whats with it?
00:21.56Gryphencolors that match the wiki
00:21.56KirkburnIt's no longer ugly :D
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00:22.24KirkburnAnd readable ones, at that
00:22.27Fisker-it was before?
00:22.27Adysnot bad =P
00:22.28foxlitIt's not significantly better than it was last time I looked at it :/
00:22.36Adysrefresh cache
00:22.44foxlitAnd User Profile still fails
00:22.56Adysits bit too dark tbh
00:23.11Gryphenit matches the wiki at least
00:23.14Kirkburnsec
00:23.15foxlitbox captions are ugly!
00:23.52foxlittabs should eat the 1px border on the page box :)
00:24.03Gryphenshould should should
00:24.20KirkburnReload now
00:24.25Gryphenpersonal opinion != should :)
00:24.56foxlitShould!
00:25.00Adyshe's right =P
00:25.26KirkburnAm trying to work out why the first tab is pushed in
00:25.38Fisker-poor hortus
00:25.42Fisker-Guild Banks and Zul'Amman
00:25.44Fisker-amman?
00:25.46Fisker-lololol
00:25.50KirkburnBanks!?
00:25.50Fisker-Error 132 with Athlon Processors
00:25.53Fisker-athelon?
00:25.56Fisker-wtf
00:25.59Fisker-he corrected that
00:26.12Fisker-now i feel stupid
00:26.15Fisker-thanks a lot Kirkburn
00:26.43KirkburnMy pleasure
00:27.18Fisker-Kaydeethree wtf
00:27.26Fisker-zul'aman was NEVER EVER EVER gonna get in 2.2
00:27.38Fisker-Voice/Banks are in 2.2.x and Zul'Aman is 2.3
00:27.56Kaydeethreeya, I know. I just keep hearing from people that it is, trying to make it more obvious that it's not going to be in 2.2
00:28.04Fisker-and it's cited incorrectly
00:28.14Kaydeethreeworking on that as we speak
00:28.17Fisker-:)
00:28.22Fisker-plus
00:28.30KirkburnFisker-'s mom sucks
00:28.31Fisker-i haet
00:28.33Fisker-noo
00:28.41Kirkburn:D
00:28.47foxlitBanks are not in 2.2? :)
00:29.06foxlitI  need sleep.
00:29.07Fisker-nope
00:29.13Fisker-so do i
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00:29.46foxlitAnd then I need a reason to push an addon update.
00:29.59foxlitPeople are whining about performance of an infinite loop. Silly them.
00:30.07Fisker-http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Fox_News_security_hole_exposes_1.5_million_users'_personal_information <-xD
00:30.09Fisker-http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Fox_News_security_hole_exposes_1.5_million_users'_personal_information
00:30.11Fisker-doh
00:30.16Fisker-Hackers were quick to leave their mark on the compromised Ziff-Davis server, uploading pornography and claiming to have come from popular Internet comedy site eBaum's World.
00:30.22Fisker-:D
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00:31.23foxlithttp://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/UnNews:J.K._Rowling_reveals_title_for_Harry_Potter_8%21
00:31.57foxlit"Harry Potter and the Dead Horse"
00:33.46Adyshm
00:33.56Adyshttp://www.wowwiki.com/User:Adys/Dev
00:34.06Adysif I hide the template, the header goes ugly
00:34.40foxlitSlap a width: somewhere in style?
00:34.51foxlitAnd use {{gallery}}, mwhahaha :)
00:35.17Adyshttp://www.wowwiki.com/User:Adys/Navbox
00:35.19Adysthats the template
00:35.21Adysand aye
00:35.54foxlitor did you mean the user page, talk ... header?
00:36.08foxlitmay want to add a margin too
00:36.35Adysno foxlit
00:36.43Adysgryphen that works but the Show link is hidden then
00:37.45AdysBha, gonna get a sandwich brb
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00:58.47Adysright lets see
00:59.01Kaydeethreeeesh at RC
00:59.05Kaydeethreeit's all wowwiki.css spam
00:59.34Adysok this is gonna be a very dirty hack because i cant be arsed to fix the centering
01:02.05KirkburnSodding done
01:02.25KirkburnApologies for it all ><
01:03.04Adysfuck it
01:03.05Adyskirkburn
01:03.08Adysfix me http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Adys/Navbox plx
01:03.12Adysthe centering
01:03.22KirkburnWhat's wrong
01:03.36Adysheader is way off center due to the hide link
01:03.47Adyssee example on http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Adys/Dev
01:05.14KirkburnWhat hide link? :)
01:05.30Adysbah
01:05.37AdysLog off your acc :(
01:05.44Adysand youll see what i mean
01:06.41KirkburnOh right
01:06.45KirkburnSorry, hadn't reloaded
01:06.52KirkburnCan't be fixed
01:07.15KirkburnI think
01:07.17AdysI was gonna put another [hide] link on the left
01:07.20Adyshidden one
01:07.26Adyssame color as background
01:07.35Adysbut i figured out i sucked and it couldnt work that way
01:08.29Adysanyhow deleting and putting it on
01:09.07Adys!jobqueue
01:09.09[NewsBot]The www.wowwiki.com job queue length is currently 1,555
01:09.56KirkburnLooks awesome
01:10.14KirkburnWhat is adding the [hide] text?
01:11.28Kaydeethreeget rid of the text-align:right and width:_em bits in the styling bit of the [hide] section and it'll be closer to center
01:11.58Kaydeethreetrying to figure out a CSS hack, position:absolute's never a good idea
01:12.06AdysKirkburn, the class is adding it itself
01:12.07KirkburnWhere on earth is the style?
01:12.15Adysits in the css
01:12.21Adysactually, in the js
01:12.33Adysi believe its also making use of the TOC [hide] link
01:12.36KirkburnI was gonna say, Gryphen deleted the css
01:12.52Adysmoved
01:12.58Adysto common.css
01:13.00Kirkburnoh right
01:17.01Kaydeethreebut if you absolutely have to have it centered, change it to position:absolute, right:2.5em
01:17.13Kaydeethreewhich looks well enough in fx, don't have IE to test with
01:17.16Adysdoesnt really matter tbh
01:17.18KirkburnChange it where?
01:17.30Kaydeethreecouldn't tell you, I have no idea where it's getting generated
01:17.39KirkburnNeither do I ><
01:19.21Adyslikely at the same place than the TOC's [hide]/[show] link
01:19.33Adysone of the css
01:19.38Adysso lets not bother
01:20.12AdysThe wiki is looking really good now
01:23.42KirkburnCheck preferences again :)
01:24.09AdysLookin good :)
01:24.16KirkburnFirst time in the history of the wiki it doesn't look like shite :D
01:24.37Adyslol
01:24.50Adysi remember it looking decent
01:24.57Adysand at some point "poof"
01:25.19KirkburnOh yeah, Mikk fixed it once
01:25.22KirkburnDidn't last long
01:25.50KirkburnAny other parts of the design that annoy people?
01:25.59Adyswoah
01:26.00Kirkburn(on the whole wiki)
01:26.02Adyshttp://www.wowwiki.com/Adolescent_Whelp
01:26.26Kaydeethreedaaaaamn
01:26.32KirkburnLaurlybot ftw
01:31.06Kaydeethreeoh, figured out where the [hide] css tags are getting generated from. MW:Common.js
01:31.16Kaydeethreefunction createCollapseButtons()
01:31.52Kirkburn6em!?
01:33.44KirkburnReduced to 3.5
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01:35.21KirkburnAltered some MP links
01:35.37Adysmp?
01:35.42Kirkburnmain page
01:35.44Adysah main page
01:39.22KirkburnI'm thinking the forum trackers links are somewhat unneeded too
01:39.43KirkburnOr at least the 3 links underneath are pointless, and should be replaced with something else
01:41.32KirkburnAnd no-one has mentioned my obvious RC list change either ><
01:42.49KirkburnA thought - should I change the default table bg colour?
01:43.07KirkburnI think #444 is way too light
01:43.26Kaydeethreehave it match class="darktable"? it's all I think any of the bots are using anyway
01:44.08Kirkburn202020?
01:44.25KirkburnWith border?
01:47.10Kirkburnhmm, border is a nono
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02:04.54DuTempetelol Gryph
02:05.09DuTempeteWhy did you edit my sandbox?
02:05.29KirkburnHey DuTempete
02:05.34DuTempetehi Kirk ;)
02:06.07DuTempeteand pcj, too... That shits just there to hold the page, so I don't have to recreate it every time I use it =P
02:11.43KirkburnLike the new css? :P
02:11.59KirkburnI need new ideas of what to change
02:12.09Kirkburn(that, unfortunately, don't involve the sidebar)
02:14.26DuTempeteYou know, I didn't really see a difference when I first logged in, but now that I look at it...
02:14.39DuTempeteWhat did you do?
02:15.06KirkburnTabs changes, some RC changes, personal links slightly changed
02:15.20KirkburnOh, and check your prefs page
02:17.30DuTempetenice
02:17.52DuTempeteIt's not the kind of change that's obvious, but it just makes it look a lot crisper
02:19.59DuTempeteLol... Bonez recreated that Demonic Resilience page, but didn't really put anything in it =P
02:20.20DuTempetewww.wowwiki.com/Demonic Resilience
02:20.34DuTempetestupid underscore I'm always forgetting :(
02:22.45DuTempeteIs there not a talent stub banner?
02:25.47pcjdutempete: you had old templates in there, didn't look like you'd edited it in awhile
02:25.54pcji just blanked it tho, someone else deleted
02:26.15DuTempeteYeah, the stuff in there is just junk
02:27.16DuTempeteI use it all the time, but rarely for actually putting anything new in it.  I use it to hold edits for my project page.
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02:53.19MentalPower|PotrKirkburn, Tekkub, Gryphen, Cairenn: ping!
02:53.27Kirkburnhmm?
02:53.28Cairennyo?
02:53.31Tekkubmerf?
02:53.44TekkubGryph loses, he has to deal with this
02:53.47Kirkburnhehe
02:53.48MentalPower|PotrTheres someone infringing on the FDL license of wowwiki
03:01.11KaydeethreeoO;
03:22.24Kirkburnfrakkin' lol, I found that FF and IE just acted in completely opposite ways for one of my changes ><
03:23.35Kaydeethreewelcome to web designer hell
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03:33.47deltronhttp://i.somethingawful.com/u/lowtax/cliffy/275-5.jpg
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04:12.28[NewsBot]MMO Champion: Few more Zul'aman informations, 2.2 Fix/Infos/Issues/Things - http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=514.0
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04:18.27KirkburnEr, okay?
04:18.53Kaydeethreethe mafiaa send you a dmca takedown notice?
04:20.33bagginswwso kirkburn anyone remember which quest had the admiral daelen's final missive?
04:21.11bagginswwI did it with my shaman but it was so long ago
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04:34.20bagginswwso really warcraft comics...
04:35.05bagginswwWhen a human is found unconscious on the shores of Kalimdor, with no memory of who he is or how he arrived there, how will he survive? Enslaved by an Orc Shaman, he must fight for survival against members of both the Alliance and the Horde. Will he strike the uneasy balance with the other races he'll need to find the secrets of his past?
04:35.10bagginswwinteresting
04:36.01Adyswah
04:36.28bagginswwso should we merge manga and comic into the same category somehow?
04:38.05bagginswwCategory:Manga & Comics?
04:38.23Adys# Zul'aman will feature 6 boss, the 4 animal gods, a Witch Doctor, and Zul'jin.
04:38.23Adys# The very first monster of the instance will be a boss.
04:38.23Adys# The 4 emprisonned spirits will help the raid during the fight against Zul'jin.
04:38.23Adys# There are 4 prisoners you can save, it seems that they will die overtime. You'll have to be fast if you want to save all of them and get the uber loots.
04:38.27Adyslol dejavu
04:38.48AdysHi zul gurub featuring 5 animal gods, a witch doctor and the big badass guy
04:38.48bagginswwI predicted that zul'aman would be ZG 2 :p
04:39.01Adyshi razorgore first mob of the instance
04:39.31Adyshi timelimit on saving a prisoner that gives more loot if you do so, baron rivendare howru
04:39.56bagginswwlooks like the character might be a human shaman
04:40.03Adysand yea hi mount dropping from an animal boss
04:40.04bagginswwif you look at the cover art
04:43.42bagginswwIs there a term that can cover both comics and mangas that won't cause purists to be insulted?
04:43.58Kaydeethreegraphic novels?
04:44.17bagginswwI was thinking about going that way ya
04:45.45bagginswwGnovel for the template name?
04:48.54pcjheh gnovel
04:51.26bagginswwlol
04:52.52bagginswwalright all uses of {{manga}} need to be changed to {{graphic novel}}
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05:03.07bagginswwso who is good at little icons? anyone want to make a new image representing mangas and comics?
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05:16.18bagginswwalright I think I converted all the manga stuff to graphic novel template
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05:44.53ChaosluxAnyone knows where i could find a an Item Database w/ IDs for Offline checking WoW Items based on ID?
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05:50.56[NewsBot]Blizzplanet: Jim Lee Schedule & Uncolored Artwork - http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=1534
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05:53.55bagginswwahh sky is back
05:54.16bagginswwsky I tossed up an article on alignments if your interested. Sandwhich was intersted in knowing definitions
05:54.48bagginswwhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Alignment
05:55.56bagginswwhttp://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft:_The_Comic
05:56.04bagginswworc shamans enslaving humans now LOL
05:56.22bagginswwbtw going by the artwork looks like the human might end up being a human shaman
05:56.29Sky2042oh, alignment
05:56.40Sky2042that's basically copy pasted from the article on wikipedia :O
05:56.46bagginswwonly one other human shaman I know about
05:56.56bagginswwthat guy in silithus
05:58.48bagginswwthe article on wikipedia was probably copy pasted from DnD handbook LOL
05:58.55Sky2042lol
05:59.00bagginswwits standard rules
05:59.13bagginswwonly difference is the heading that gives a warcraft twist to the explanation
05:59.44bagginswwcan't remember that guy's name the one in silithus, :p
06:00.13Sky2042goddamn kirkburn
06:00.28Sky2042shouldn't friggin edit the global css without adding in a failsafe
06:00.32Sky2042him and gryphen
06:00.35Sky2042ugh
06:04.38Sky2042i'm prolly tired..
06:04.43Sky2042i'll prolly get used to it
06:05.40bagginswwya?
06:05.51Sky2042i felt like it
06:05.52Sky2042:D
06:06.23bagginswwhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Highlord_Demitrian
06:06.25bagginswwfound him
06:06.28zeegwww.curse.com :)
06:06.37bagginswwdoes he summon demons?
06:06.40bagginswwin WoW?
06:07.05Kaydeethreedemons, no. he summons thunderaan, though
06:07.15bagginswwhmm then warlock needs to be removed
06:07.20bagginswwnot sure where that came from
06:07.25bagginswwhis lore is specific he's shaman
06:07.36bagginswwand fact he summons an elemental :)
06:08.04Sky2042lol
06:08.09Sky2042he summoned thunderaan.
06:08.10Sky2042lol
06:08.11Sky2042nub
06:08.36bagginswwpretty powerful elemental ;)
06:08.56bagginswwI never got to fight thunderaan myself... saw the end of a battle though once
06:09.09bagginswwdidn't know he was summoned by dimitrian himself
06:09.23Sky2042thunderaan's an easy fight
06:09.29Sky204220 man and he's dead in 5, at level 60
06:09.31Sky2042if not easier
06:09.36Sky2042and that's with mid bwl gear
06:10.15bagginswwheh
06:10.23bagginswwwish there was a way to summon him without the quest :p
06:10.29bagginswwjust for fun
06:14.12Sky2042zeeg: sweet
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06:22.22Sky2042bagginsww, felwood is ashenvale, isn't it?
06:22.27Sky2042or was, i guess
06:22.37Sky2042or was it considered part of hyjal?
06:22.58bagginswwfelwood? its its own zone
06:23.05Sky2042what was it before the thrid war?
06:23.06bagginswwat least now
06:23.14bagginswwwell its been cursed twice
06:23.27Sky2042twice? gul'dan killed part of it...?
06:23.28bagginswwsome of it was corrupted as far back as war of the ancients
06:23.35Sky2042oi
06:23.37bagginswwgul'dan corrupted it further
06:26.55bagginswwI was referring to the skull to
06:27.13bagginswwI just didn't feel like typing Gul'dan's skull :p
06:27.14Sky2042yeah, that's why i said that hehe
06:27.32bagginswwsame reason you probably typed gul'dan too heh heh
06:27.33Sky2042i didn't even realize i had forgotten to mention it was the skull until after you had responded
06:27.45bagginswwheh heh
06:28.35bagginswwdid you see the cover art for the comic?
06:28.45bagginswwspecifically the second cover
06:28.48Sky2042haven't looked at it yet
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06:29.58bagginswwwell human looks very shamanistic doesn't he?
06:31.13Sky2042that he does
06:31.18Sky2042he is an idiot though
06:31.24bagginswwwho?
06:31.33bagginswwfor losing his mind?
06:31.39bagginswwand landing in kalimdor?
06:31.40Sky2042which human again?
06:31.45Sky2042:O
06:31.52bagginswwcomic cover :p
06:31.59bagginswwwhich idiot?
06:32.01bagginswwheh heh
06:32.09Sky2042give meh a link!
06:32.21bagginswwhttp://www.dccomics.com/dcunlimited/wow/?action=the_comic
06:32.29bagginswwI must get subscription heh heh
06:32.59bagginswwonly thing I worry is warcraft is getting as bad as star wars now as far as publishng way too much a year :p
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06:33.07JunkHead-WorkMorning.
06:33.25bagginswwthey are getting greedy :p
06:33.56bagginswwI think for conics I"d go for a nice pdf subscription if it was offered :p
06:34.00bagginsww*comics
06:34.44bagginswwthere are two problems with comics;
06:34.57bagginsww1 if you get them by the issue they are easy to destroy and take up alot of room
06:35.30bagginsww2. if you wait for the graphic novel format, you might not get them at all
06:35.31Sky2042lolenslavedbyanorcshaman
06:35.34Sky2042lol
06:35.53Sky2042wow
06:35.53Sky2042just... wow
06:35.58bagginswwya if I was alliance biased I think that was everything zarnks claims orcs aredn't LOL
06:36.25bagginswwcause in his eyes orcs could never do any wrong
06:36.46bagginswwnext he'll start defending slavery and say the alliance does it more LOL
06:37.54bagginswwanycase either we are seeing our first human barbarian in a source outside of rpg, or we are seeing a human shaman LOL
06:38.45Sky2042btw, highlord demitrian summoned thunderaan in the main "questline" in S&L. the alternate quest to embark on is the one the players take in WoW.
06:39.05bagginswwhmm?
06:39.11Sky2042he didn't actually summon him, I don't think
06:39.16bagginswwhow much does it differ?
06:39.20Sky2042or maybe he did
06:39.21Sky2042blgh
06:39.24bagginswwshadows and light?
06:39.28Sky2042where\
06:39.33bagginswwlands of mystery
06:39.36Sky2042uno momento
06:39.37bagginswwdid I mark it wrong?
06:40.06Sky2042nvm, it was in mm&m
06:40.57bagginswwoh remember there was some stuff about a couple of the legendary weapons and it gave two alternate ways
06:41.02Sky2042yeah
06:41.13bagginswwbut intended main article bit to be the main way
06:41.16Sky2042pg 152 of mm&m f you have it
06:41.21bagginswwof course heh
06:41.24bagginswwpdfs here ;)
06:42.01bagginswwbtw I think that's what's his name on the cover
06:42.12bagginswwthat false mage guy
06:42.55Sky2042false... mage?
06:43.07bagginswwzecker
06:43.12bagginswwhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Brymidaine_Zecker
06:43.29bagginswwlook at his clothes and the weapon he's using
06:43.38Sky2042lol
06:43.49bagginswwthe cover of MM&M I mean
06:44.07Sky2042ur right
06:44.20bagginswwwe should at that to the article :)
06:44.23bagginswwthat pic
06:44.56bagginswwnot the entire picture though just cropped to him
06:46.37Sky2042oh my god we got it working
06:46.38Sky2042oh my god
06:47.14bagginswwhmm?
06:47.41Sky2042collapsiable tables
06:48.08bagginswwhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Brymidaine_Zecker
06:49.20bagginswwwonders if the woman relates to anyone mentioned in the book
06:49.24Sky2042better?
06:49.34Sky2042http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Brymidaine_Zecker&diff=770222&oldid=770221
06:49.47Sky2042or too squashed for lower reses?
06:50.22bagginswwI kind of liked the frontal view only cause you see his face
06:50.28bagginswwalthough the color one is more dynamic :p
06:50.30bagginswwhard choice
06:50.50bagginswwan ya color does look a little squished
06:51.01Sky2042i squished the box by about 30 px
06:51.32Sky2042230 is as low as its goin
06:52.01bagginswwwell its better than the other image in one other way, the other one was too tall LOL
06:52.18Sky2042yah
06:52.26bagginswwjust too bad its not a frontal image
06:52.56Sky2042eh
06:53.00Sky2042switch them back if you wish
06:53.06Sky2042its kinda iffy
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06:56.00Sky2042ugh
07:01.25bagginswwI say leave it like this sky and if someone complains later we cna switch it back
07:02.14Sky2042_hehe
07:03.16bagginswwhmm sky
07:03.21bagginswwit might be the story of dimitrian
07:03.29bagginswwone of the other covers shows the blade  Ithink
07:07.07bagginswwoh and sky you might notice I got rid of the manga template
07:07.08Sky2042_hmmm
07:07.12bagginswwits now "graphic novel"
07:07.13Sky2042_yeah, i did
07:07.17Sky2042_works for me!
07:07.30bagginswwthat way we can toss all mangas and comics together
07:07.52bagginswwdespite what purists might say its basically the same thing LOL
07:08.04bagginswwgraphic novel is just the most PC terminology
07:08.25bagginswwhttp://www.dccomics.com/dcunlimited/wow/?action=the_comic
07:08.32bagginswwthird cover
07:08.38bagginswwis that a stylized version o fthunderfury?
07:09.42Sky2042_that's what i was thinking
07:09.56Sky2042_it has the whole spiked thing
07:10.44bagginswwyour welcome to toss that speculation into the comic article, ;)
07:11.05bagginswwthat it could be the story of how Dimitrian became a shaman and construction of thunderfury heh heh
07:11.12Sky2042_looooooooooooooool
07:11.15Sky2042_it might be
07:11.20Sky2042_but those are promo
07:11.24Sky2042_might as well wait
07:11.33bagginswwya I'll laugh if we were right
07:11.51Sky2042_uh oh
07:12.39bagginswwya?
07:14.32Sky2042_how does zarnks manage to go after so many different topics?
07:15.18bagginswwi don't know btw his his writing style not perfect, some of his added setences are so jarring and grammatically tossed into the wrong spots :p
07:16.02bagginswwI mean he randomly says something in a topic, expains why in the edit notice, but there is no explaination to relevance in the topic itself LOL
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07:16.51Sky2042_aye
07:17.08bagginswwsomeone I think sandwich said he writes better than angry ogre, but I think I disagree LOL
07:17.24bagginswwboth seem to have similar quirks that pop up
07:17.40Sky2042_but its not him
07:17.54Sky2042_angry ogre would never have edited the article
07:20.53bagginswwedited what article?
07:20.59bagginswwI got into enough edit wars with him :p
07:21.09Sky2042_eh
07:21.11bagginswwI had to ban angry ogre a few times lOL
07:21.20bagginswwwell at least once
07:22.19bagginswwstill wonders what happened to him
07:22.25bagginswwmaybe someone forgot to unban him :p
07:22.28bagginsww;)
07:23.01bagginswwNow theron I think has calmed down LOL
07:23.16Sky2042_theron is iffy too
07:23.20bagginswwya he is
07:23.20Sky2042_he's touchy
07:23.29bagginswwI've also banned him once LOL
07:23.30Sky2042_poke him in the wrong spot, and he starts spewing
07:23.38bagginswwspewing and edit waring
07:24.08bagginswwoh sky I think we need a new template
07:24.21Sky2042_for?
07:24.54bagginswwsomething for pages like race ideas that warns that that the page is only edited by sysop after new ideas are discussed in the talk page first
07:25.17Sky2042_eh
07:25.37bagginswwvorbis and several other admins agreed its best course for such a controversial topic
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07:25.54bagginswwwell the heading just needs to go into talk page I suppose
07:26.37bagginswwzarnks was the worst, but not the only one that tried to either eliminate or dillute quotes, and add wild theorizes
07:26.41bagginsww*theories
07:27.20Sky2042the only pages i can possibly think would need it would be origin of the races and racial ideas
07:27.48bagginswwHmm is there a reason to lock origin of the races?
07:28.02Sky2042i have no idea
07:28.07bagginswwit does't have to be a template btw you could just do it as a table
07:28.12Sky2042true
07:28.26Sky2042band-blue is pretty though :)
07:28.32bagginswwheh
07:29.06bagginswwbut I think the warning needs to be made or people will have no idea why its locked as time passes, LOL
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07:32.05bagginsww? Dwarven strip mining in the Barrens may go against furbolg values.
07:32.10bagginswwthat's a zarnk's addition
07:32.32bagginswwI question its relevant :p
07:32.39bagginswwhow many furbolgs are their in the barrens?
07:33.08Sky2042lol
07:34.43bagginswwHumans and draenei are the traditional enemies of orcs and ogres. It is unlikely that they would accept a hybrid of an orc and an ogre. (However, they may be willing to accept a hybrid of human and ogre.)
07:35.05bagginswwLOL well alliance can become king of the ogres as much as the horde ;)
07:40.04bagginswwwell night all
07:41.41Sky2042nigte
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08:07.08Fisker-wth?
08:07.52Fisker-http://www.wowwiki.com/Illidan#Memorable_quotes
08:08.01Fisker-"Bah-weep-grah-nah-weep-ninni-bung! It's a universal greeting."  <-eh?
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08:12.13nywho knows Secure Frames usage?
08:12.52Fisker-try #wowi-lounge or #wowace
08:13.38nyty
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09:13.34AdysDid you know it of the day
09:13.47AdysBlizzard doesnt use indenting in armory code
09:13.52Adysnor linebreaks
09:13.55Adyshttp://adys.stools.net/donotwant.gif
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09:19.15Fisker-do want
09:19.30Fisker-but that is failure html code
09:28.25|Pixel|Adys: so what ? :)
09:31.50Fisker-you guys should like close the PTR
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09:33.56|Pixel|why ?
09:34.04Fisker-nothing but idiots raiding cities
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09:42.13Fisker-so |Pixel|
09:42.14Fisker-http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=304171307&sid=1
09:42.16Fisker-will he bite?
09:42.55Adyslol pixel
09:43.35Adysand lol pixel
09:43.39AdysI mean fisker
09:43.39Adysffs
09:43.47Fisker-you suck
09:44.03Adys|Pixel| : 200 divs in a single armory page
09:44.10Adys"so what"? :P
09:44.44Fisker-btw Adys
09:44.47Fisker-do some dirty work for me
09:44.48Adyssup hon
09:44.53Adysooh
09:44.55Fisker-http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Wegsdgsg.JPG
09:44.58Adysill be as dirty as you want
09:44.58Fisker-http://www.wowwiki.com/Romania
09:45.32Adysdone
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10:27.25|Pixel|Adys: soooooooooo what ? :D
10:27.34Adysaha
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10:28.11laurlywhats the name of the combat icon the one with the two swords?
10:28.30Adyscheck Dual Wield pag
10:28.31Adyspage
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10:29.33laurlybingo thanks
10:31.38laurlyhttp://www.wowwiki.com/User:Laurly/agro_test <--- ok to have if you pass faction: Combat that it uses the new icon? or is that to confusing.  also check i added health and wealth :)
10:32.47Adyshostile to both factions?
10:33.02laurlymore like for mobs
10:33.13Adysi wouldnt go for an icon like that
10:33.43laurlyhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Serpentshrine_Sporebat  <--- right now it just shows ?
10:34.06Adysits too big tbh
10:34.34laurlyyeah but does passing faction: combat  (make sence? vs horde or alliance)
10:34.42Adysyeah
10:35.08laurlyshould be the same size as the hord and alliance ones
10:35.39laurlyhmm its not there smaller ....
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10:36.00laurlynow i have to figure out size on it :)
10:36.26Adysi dont really like the icon
10:37.14laurlypick a better one :)
10:37.25laurlywhile i try and remember how to resize an icon
10:37.45Adys[[Image:Blah.jpg|1px]]
10:38.13laurlyyeah i found it :)
10:38.23laurlycheck size now
10:39.00Adysnot sure
10:39.08Adysrename it
10:39.14Adyswe can change it more easily then
10:39.15laurlyhow about Ability BackStab.png
10:39.32laurlyrename what?
10:39.41Adyspick this icon but reupload it under a new name
10:39.46Adysso if we want a new one we can change easily
10:39.54laurlyahhh your smart
10:40.17Adyswoot
10:40.50Adys~wwquotes
10:40.50infobothttp://teo.selfip.net/wowwiki-quotes.txt
10:41.31laurlynpc_box_combat.png  <---
10:42.00laurlyok now for my next idea. if you have time to help i need to figure out if statments in templates
10:42.44Adys{{#if:condition|thendothis|otherwisedothat}}
10:42.44laurly[1,1] <--- bot has something like that first part is alliance second is horde.   1 = frendly ie green -1 agro ie red 0 is nutral ie yellow
10:43.05Adyshm how you mean?
10:43.08laurlyso i could display in the box if its frendly vs unfrendly for each mob to horde vs alliance
10:43.38laurly[1,-1] =  <green>alliance</green> <red>horde</red>
10:43.46Adysi see
10:43.55laurlybut can i do that in a template
10:44.09Adysuse {{#switch:}}
10:44.31Adyshmm
10:44.33Adyslet me remember
10:44.36laurlyis there a substring function or should i just pass the two verables seprate?
10:44.56laurlyagro_alliance = 1  agro_horde = -1
10:46.02Adyshmm
10:46.12AdysSo basically
10:46.36Adysyou get {{Aggro|1|-1}}
10:46.49Adysyou need 1 to display green, 0 yellow, -1 red
10:46.53Adysright?
10:47.00laurlyyeah that was my idea have a seprate template to calculate it yup you got it
10:47.13Adysi dont remember switch, argh
10:47.16laurlyoh and pass a text so you could pass horde or alliance
10:47.26laurly<PROTECTED>
10:47.37Adyshuh?
10:47.49laurlynever mind
10:47.50Adysfirst arg would be alliance and second arg horde
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10:48.07laurlyyou had it right im just thinking to far ahead
10:48.11Adys:P
10:48.36laurlyim just thrilled i figured out how to add the health wealth and fix the icon on my own :)
10:49.07Adys{{#switch:{{{1|{{{alliance}}}}}}
10:49.09Adyser
10:49.37laurlythere must be a file om swtich someplace
10:50.08Adysno wait a sec i need to remember how the hell the first arg works
10:50.54Fisker-http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=304301571&sid=1
10:50.59Fisker-(It's a trap your brain will explode)
10:51.06Adys{{#switch:{{{1|{{{alliance}}}}}}
10:51.06Adys| -1 = red
10:51.06Adys| 0 = yellow
10:51.06Adys| 1 = green
10:51.06Adys| yellow}}
10:51.09Adyssomething like that
10:51.16Adyslast arg is default if not precised
10:51.34Adysfisker lol
10:51.50Adys"SURFING ON UR TUBES"
10:51.55Adysjust made me think about this
10:53.16Adyslaurly basically
10:53.41laurlyhmm ok let me go play with it a bit.
10:53.41Adys{{#switch:1
10:53.41Adys| a = 1
10:53.41Adys| b = 2
10:53.41Adys| c}}
10:53.59laurlyhttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Advanced_templates  <--- yeah switch example there
10:54.52Adysmight aswell =P
10:58.32Fisker-http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=DE9ROSz4bSE
10:59.09laurlyhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Agro  <--- works just needs a table i think
11:02.24Adys|pixel| updating the armory?
11:02.57laurlydo i need a | between horde and alliance?
11:03.19Adysnah
11:04.42laurlycall it agro or shamelessly copy wowhead and call it react?
11:05.56AdysReaction
11:05.59Adysis fine
11:08.42laurlywell that made a mess
11:08.53laurlyhttp://www.wowwiki.com/User:Laurly/agro_test <--
11:14.09Fisker-there's 2 g's bt
11:14.10Fisker-w
11:24.19laurlyok wheres the extra |} comming from?
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12:07.38AleandarHai!
12:07.42AleandarWiki down? :/
12:08.34AleandarNo! Wiki up! :D
12:08.42AleandarSlow though :P
12:09.03pcjduh
12:09.23Aleandar??
12:10.10pcj!!
12:10.26AleandarWoke up on the wrong side again? :P
12:11.06pcjno, did you
12:11.12Aleandarnope
12:11.57pcjk
12:21.36pcjsomeone needs to fix http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Questbox/code so it doesn't use {{lcommon}}
12:25.02Fisker-any pwnt archimonde?
12:33.34Fisker-noooo pcj
12:33.35Fisker-do not want
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12:39.24pcjwhat :|
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12:42.58laurlyhmm a little lagie today isnt it.
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12:52.32Adysdotted
12:52.52Adyscode newsbot so it transforms [[link]] into http://www.wowwiki.com/Link
12:53.07Adysand [[link here]] into http://www.wowwiki.com/Link_here
13:00.53Dottednobody liked that idea before :o
13:00.59Dottedoh well
13:01.08Dottedjust for you then Adys =)
13:01.19Adys:)
13:01.23Dottedwill only support one link tho
13:01.24Adysbtw make it catch them
13:01.33Adyshow so?
13:01.35Dottedcatch?
13:01.41Dottedbecuase im a nub
13:01.49Adysyeah, not being requested by ![[link]] or sth
13:01.58[NewsBot]GamePolitics: http://gamepolitics.com/2007/07/24/librarys-halo-2-contest-causes-a-stink/
13:02.04Adyshi we talking about you
13:02.42Adysmake it just watch the chan and automatically drop a link when we say [[blah]]
13:02.52Dottedyeah
13:03.22Dottedbut if a line contains 2 [[]]'s im not sure what will happen tho:p
13:04.06Adysnot like we use it alot
13:04.38Dottedshould it trigger if its part of a sentance?
13:04.52Dottedor if you just write [[blah]] alone
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13:10.35Dottedi hate you :(:
13:17.20Fisker-:<
13:20.14pcjhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Tooltipcss is deleteable now
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13:42.12Kirkburn|sleepMorning all
13:42.33pcjsup dawg
13:45.07KirkburnAnyone know why Sky complained about the css earlier?
13:45.17laurlyok enough pokeing the server time to start kicking it
13:45.25pcjbold personal links probably
13:45.37KirkburnNo, that's just you :P
13:45.59KirkburnSo, speed issues with the wiki?
13:46.06laurlyKirkburn i fixed npcbox <very impresed with herself>
13:46.12Kirkburnwoo
13:46.14laurlybig one Kirkburn
13:46.25laurlyok Adys helped with the agro part :)
13:46.33pcj<Sky2042> we need to fix that css
13:46.33pcj<Kirkburn> What CSS?
13:46.33pcj<Sky2042> darktable
13:46.33pcj<Sky2042> or make a new class
13:46.35pcj<Sky2042> http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Template:Human_Nations&curid=72464&diff=769288&oldid=430993&rcid=685718
13:48.45KirkburnMatthewS, ping for wiki speed issues
13:48.58TecnoBratzeeg, ping?
13:50.54Fisker-i think it might not be wowwiki related Kirkburn
13:51.40Fisker-someone might be in our ocean cutting our optic fiberz
13:51.49TecnoBrathmmm its definately not working from Canada
13:51.53TecnoBratAs in ... at all
13:51.58Fisker-hmm
13:52.09Fisker-what about worldofwarcraft.com ?
13:52.17TecnoBratwowwiki = The connection has timed out
13:52.27[NewsBot]MMO Champion: Hyjal Summit hotfix - http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=516.0
13:52.27TecnoBratdude, the servers are offline in the US
13:52.35TecnoBratworldofwarcraft.com is gonna be hella slow
13:52.39Fisker-ah
13:52.51TecnoBratand actually, its pretty fast atm
13:53.17Fisker-i can't even load the site
13:53.19Fisker-well barely
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13:53.28TecnoBratwowwiki = totally dead, tho
13:53.29Fisker-but only basic site with no styling
13:53.45Fisker-worldofwarcraft.com doesn't even load for me
13:53.48TecnoBratoop, there it goes
13:53.49Fisker-that's how slow it is for me
13:53.52TecnoBratwowwiki loads now
13:53.53amro_http://totalwarguild.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/tw_king_magni_bronzebeard.jpg
13:56.42deltronlol
13:56.55deltronlast time we did that on my server, the server crashed
13:57.08Fisker-btw
13:57.17Fisker-anyone know why there's a transformers quote in Illidan's article?
13:57.29deltronhah
13:57.45laurlyoccationaly  <-- is that spelt right?
13:58.09TecnoBratwhere Fisker-?
13:58.29TecnoBrat"Bah-weep-grah-nah-weep-ninni-bung! It's a universal greeting."?
13:58.33Fisker-yeah
13:58.51TecnoBrathaha
13:59.11TecnoBrat"Wings, horns, hooves...what am I saying? Is this Diablo?"
13:59.14TecnoBratthat seems ...
13:59.16TecnoBratuhhh
13:59.17TecnoBratalso
13:59.24Fisker-that is real as far as i remember
14:02.59[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/07/24/around-azeroth-taking-a-break/
14:07.23TecnoBratFisker-, that quote has been in there for a long ass time
14:07.23TecnoBratlol
14:12.19laurly./kick server
14:16.31TecnoBrathttp://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Illidan_Stormrage&diff=567616&oldid=567345
14:16.43TecnoBratMar 29, 2007
14:16.45TecnoBratheh
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14:26.27laurlyhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Serpentshrine_Cavern#Trash_mobs  <--- looks mess any ideas for makeing it look nicer?
14:27.04xb95yeah skip SSC and go to TK ;o
14:28.01laurlywhy not clear both :)
14:28.09xb95It was a joke :)
14:28.29laurlywe got lurker to 3% last night
14:28.49xb95cool, that's a fun fight
14:29.04laurlyyeah grate once you get the kids past there fear of boiling water
14:29.11xb95hehehe
14:29.21xb95500 every 3 seconds .. it's so wimpy
14:29.35laurlyyou have 11k hp why are you afraid of 500 damage every 3 sec?
14:30.01laurlyonce the fish respawn they quicly realised that boiling water was better :)
14:30.15xb95kekeke. yes.
14:31.08xb95on a wipe, I usually water walk to the center and start rezzing people and see how many will die from falling in
14:35.08laurlyLOL
14:35.31laurlyi mide the mistake of rezing someone under one of the islands :)  well he did die there
14:40.57xb95hahaha
14:41.01xb95good stuff
14:43.49Kirkburn(btw, I have poked more about the server stuff)
14:44.43pcj:o
14:45.13Fisker-ME THINKS IT'S A GLOBAL CONSPIRACY
14:45.21Fisker-The NY tubes are at maximum capacity
14:50.26laurlystill fishing (get it fishing) for opinons on how to make http://www.wowwiki.com/Serpentshrine_Cavern#Other_trash_mobs less messy
15:00.34xb95laurly: tbh, I'd suggest sorting the mobs based on what boss controls them
15:00.54xb95then you can have the page broken down in that way, and have information like respawn timers
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15:02.13bagginswwKirkburn do you mind if I upgrade the WoW template to include TBC?
15:02.33bagginswwthen we can still use the little side icon for TBC specific info
15:03.30KirkburnSeems fair
15:03.57[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/07/24/wow-low-risk-high-fun/
15:13.15bagginswwhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Template:WoW
15:13.24bagginswwok made it 'expansions' general
15:14.50bagginswwI think there should also be a note reminding people to use the little icons next to info if they are marking something from a specific expansion
15:15.00bagginswwbut not sure how to word it
15:15.24bagginswwprobably need the little links to each one as they come too
15:17.40amrowhy mark lore from a specific expansion? it's the same game
15:18.32laurlyxb95 i like that idea.
15:21.09Kirkburnamro, because some people like to think that they're not
15:21.11bagginswwso kirkburn my theory about the upcoming comic
15:21.26bagginswwis that it may be about how Dimitrias became a shaman
15:21.35bagginswwand the construction of the thunderfury
15:21.47bagginswwwe know this human is enslaved by an orc shaman.
15:21.58bagginswwthe second cover shows human in what looks like shaman clothing
15:22.09bagginswwthird cover looks like a stylized thunderfury
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15:22.46deltronit's kinda funny
15:22.54deltronit's like thrall in reverse
15:22.59bagginswwLOL ya
15:24.04bagginswwI get my subscription when I get to hawaii once I know my address LOL
15:24.15bagginswwspecific p.o. box I mean
15:24.49bagginswwwhile I'm sure Blizzard will probably recollect the comics in TPBs, it doesn't always happen
15:25.12bagginswwprevious experience when I was collecting starwars comics :p
15:25.29bagginswwtpb = trade paper back
15:27.56bagginswwworst case is they collect the story arcs and the 1 or 2 issue stories get left out
15:28.19bagginswwthat happened all the time with series like Empire
15:28.35bagginswwor Clone Wars
15:28.59bagginswwwhen imo I would have just publised the 1 or 2 issue stories with a a full story.
15:30.15pcjoh
15:31.33laurlyhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Serpentshrine_Cavern  <--- hows that
15:31.48laurlynote: bot cant scan npc's now servers to lagie
15:32.13bagginswwThe Blackrock,
15:32.13bagginswwDragonmaw, and Black Tooth Grin clans were captured by the Alliance and herded into guarded reserves and prison camps
15:32.28bagginswwfrom Beyond the Dark Portal manual
15:32.36KirkburnLol, we had a Stormwind map from beta ><
15:32.45bagginswwoh?
15:32.51bagginswwlink
15:32.51KirkburnCheck the SW article
15:33.06KirkburnI just uploaded a current one with it
15:33.37bagginswwmain problem with that is well dragonmaw was out of its camp by the time they placed Day of the Dragon heh heh
15:35.18bagginswwinteresting map
15:35.30bagginswwthe old one looked better :p
15:35.36bagginswwat least for the section on stormwind keep
15:36.00bagginswwI should go tsee which was used in LoC
15:36.09bagginswwI'm thinking hte former one
15:36.19bagginswwit would look better in a book
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15:39.46pcjis there any other template like tooltipcss
15:39.59bagginswwya kirk the one in TBC is based on the earlier one
15:40.02bagginswwbut its different as well
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15:41.40Gryphenpcj Smalltooltipcss
15:43.56bagginswwI'm going to toss i t in
15:44.21bagginswwwhat's with all the error 400s?
15:45.54bagginswwhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Image:StormwindmapLoC.JPG
15:46.11Gryphenslowwiki :/
15:49.48laurlybeen kicking it all day Gryphen i sware
15:50.12laurlyhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Serpentshrine_Cavern#General  why wont the coilfang reservoir table go to the side?
15:50.43Gryphenalls well anyway, i should do some real work instead of RC refreshing
15:52.02Kirkburn!jobqueue
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15:52.54Gryphen690
15:53.07KirkburnI added a fair few just then
15:53.18KirkburnWowbox needed a defined bg color
15:53.24laurlyhmm how is it 6 already :/
15:53.37KirkburnEsp since I'm thinking of removing the default table background (#444, eww)
15:54.13KirkburnAlso, got some thumbnail tweaks and diff tweaks
15:54.41KirkburnTrying to create a more consistent colour scheme
15:54.59KirkburnWe have a huge range of choice between #191919 to #666 atm :D
15:56.04laurlyhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Serpentshrine_Cavern  if i have boiling water in the genral section does it really need its own section
16:01.58bagginswwhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Eastern_Kingdoms
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16:02.57[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/07/24/wow-moviewatch-never-stay-tuned/
16:05.37Kirkburnpcj, we no longer have any more tooltipcss? :D
16:05.41pcjNope
16:05.45pcjJust smalltooltipcss
16:05.57Kirkburn:(
16:06.20Gryphenfrowny?
16:06.27KirkburnThat some is left
16:06.34laurlyhehe guild name "slash gquit"
16:06.35Gryphenoh hehe
16:06.49bagginswwI'm going to turn lordaeron into a disambig page
16:07.03bagginswwmuch like we did with azeroth
16:07.35bagginswwtoo much on the current lordaeron page, and the info about continent was kind of lost in the whole
16:11.53Gryphenomgslowwiki >:(
16:13.50bagginswwuh I think I missed something up
16:13.55bagginswwmessed something up
16:14.12bagginswwmisread heading ;p deleted a page
16:14.18bagginswwwhen moving :p
16:14.26bagginswwhow do I find the bit I deleted?
16:14.50Kirkburnhuh?
16:14.54bagginswwfound it
16:15.11KirkburnGood good
16:16.15bagginswwjus tneeded to find the restore option
16:16.49bagginswwok crisis averted LOL
16:25.00bagginswwhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Lordaeron
16:29.43bagginswwSunstrider  "he who walks the day"
16:29.52bagginswwok is that common or thallassian :p
16:30.10bagginswwlol
16:30.32bagginswwI know its thalassian
16:30.36bagginswwbut its kinda silly you know?
16:30.49bagginswwcause both sun and strider are english terms
16:31.56[NewsBot]GamePolitics: http://gamepolitics.com/2007/07/24/jack-thompson-projects-drug-cartel-dirty-tricks-onto-game-biz/
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16:40.14KirkburnWelcome
16:41.18KirkburnHey, can someone check a diff page and look at the (new) colours?
16:41.38bagginswwwhich page?
16:41.42KirkburnAny
16:41.58Gryphenfrustratewiki
16:42.00KirkburnDo a cache refresh too (ctrl+f5)
16:42.04bagginswwok so things are uh more blue?
16:42.34KirkburnNo changes relate to the colour blue in any way :)
16:42.46bagginswwhmm things still look grey to me... cache issue?
16:43.12KirkburnIn the diff itself, I changed the colours a bit
16:43.24KirkburnIf you're not seeing much change, that's probably a good thing ^^
16:43.28bagginswwcool
16:44.27bagginswwI hate hp
16:44.33Kirkburn?
16:44.59bagginsww2 times I"ve told them I need the cable with the powersuplly for a monitor... they wouldn't take the part number from the powersupply :p
16:45.08Kirkburn>_>
16:45.15bagginswwand they first sent me an ATX power supply thinking they knew what I wanted
16:45.20bagginswwhad to call them back
16:45.33bagginswwthen they sent me the cable that plugs into the powersupply cable :p
16:45.44bagginswwwhich I can get anywhere, and don't need :p
16:46.10bagginswwif they'd just use the stupid part number there would be no confusion...
16:50.04Fisker-when Fisker-'s attack
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16:55.32Ryanizedhi
16:55.45KirkburnWelcome!
16:55.54RyanizedHow r u ?
16:56.05KirkburnGood thanks :)
16:56.10Ryanizedgood to hear :c)
16:56.32Ryanizedjust waiting for the realms to come back up =/
17:03.56[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/07/24/guildless/
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17:08.24Fisker-noone else up for some spitting?
17:09.34Kaydeethree!jobqueue
17:09.36[NewsBot]The www.wowwiki.com job queue length is currently 902
17:10.00Gryphenjobqueue doesnt make slowwiki, at least it should as that is what it was designed to prevent
17:10.06Gryphenshouldnt*
17:10.33Fisker-wowwiki is ok right now
17:10.47Gryphenevery 4-5 refresh it doesnt respond for me
17:11.11Gryphenotherwise it is quick
17:12.03Fisker-was better than it was earlier
17:13.08KirkburnBored with CSS editing again now ><
17:13.17KirkburnTime to hoover
17:13.23Gryphengood!
17:13.38Kirkburn:_(
17:13.55KirkburnSexification is important
17:14.25TraeCan someone help me with the different Rogue builds?
17:14.47Traenub rogue and trying to decide where to put my TP's
17:14.59TraeI'm on PvP server for what that's worth
17:16.38KirkburnI don't know rogues :(
17:17.12bagginswwgillgim island?
17:17.32bagginswwI think it might be in blizzard's idea for future islans if the 2 sided azeroth map means antyhing
17:18.32TraeI think the next Expansion pack will be:  The Journey to the center of Azeroth
17:18.33Traeheh
17:18.41Traea world inside of the world of warcraft
17:18.43Traelawls
17:19.06Traethey did the outlands things... so the new stuff will be the "Inlands"
17:21.16bagginswwLOL
17:21.28bagginswwinlands of outland could be interesting
17:21.37bagginswwwhat is below the continent?
17:21.46bagginswwbottomlands?
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17:24.41Jeremy2020I was under the impression, space was below it
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17:25.21Traebagginsww, heh
17:25.26Jeremy2020so  guess you'd float around in a black void unable to move to do much of anything
17:25.36bagginswwnah stand upside down
17:25.42Jeremy2020you can get that experience right now by playing SWG
17:25.49Traepersonally... I had hoped they'ed link up starcraft
17:25.54bagginswwit could do something like the one palace in majora's mask
17:25.58Sandwichman2448Did some bodysay Void?
17:26.09bagginswwyou go down there and the world flips
17:26.09Traeand call it Star Wars... oh wait nm
17:26.09Sandwichman2448somebody say.
17:26.37bagginswwso sandwich
17:26.47bagginswwyou were wanting to know definitions of alignments
17:26.51bagginswwI made an article
17:26.55bagginswwalignment
17:27.01bagginswwall for you LOL
17:27.08Traebagginsww, I was thinking the same thing on Azeroth... where you'd go into these tunnels and have to have some means of fighting underground people who's sense of gravity is different than yours
17:27.17bagginswwheh heh
17:27.20Traebagginsww, so you'd have to have some boots or some crap to keep you stuck upside down
17:27.26Sandwichman2448What is with the sigh?
17:27.51bagginswwwell technically trae hollow earth theory states that gravity would be on the outside of the planet
17:27.59bagginswwin the crut
17:28.01bagginsww*crust
17:28.06bagginswwso you'd be able to walk on the inside just fine
17:28.11Traebagginsww, heh
17:28.18bagginswwinfact you wouldn't even know you were upside odwn
17:28.24bagginswwyour blood would be pulled to the crust
17:28.37Traebagginsww, Do some sorta like Mario thing whwere you just walk all around a sphere
17:28.41bagginswwso your senses would be telling you that what you were standing on is down
17:28.50bagginswwthat's amusing LOL
17:28.55Traeget a "Descent WoW"
17:28.56Traeheh
17:29.07Traewhere you are constantly operating in a 3 dimensions
17:29.07bagginswwI was a descent freespace person myself
17:29.17bagginswwsuch a great series
17:29.24TraeI liked descent too
17:29.26bagginswwdid the freespace series connect to the normal descent series?
17:29.31bagginswwas far as stories?
17:29.35Traenot sure
17:29.39KirkburnSky2042, hullo
17:29.42Traebut.... I can't play any FPS now
17:29.51KirkburnYou ping me hours ago
17:30.12bagginswwoh sandwich I'm going to upload some islands that don't show up on any other maps
17:30.16bagginswwthat I know of
17:30.34Traebut I hope they are working on new worlds for us
17:30.38bagginswwwondering if one relates to gilligim or is another interpretation of plunder
17:30.43Sky2042lol yeah kirkburn
17:31.01Sky2042i've decided that i'll just let it sit and stew, see how I like it :)
17:31.10TraeAnd I know everyone says this, but I wish the flying mount worked on Azeroth[tm]
17:31.10KirkburnWhat was it specifically?
17:31.38Sky2042you built in no overrides for, what, as I see, were primarily self or admin driven changes.
17:31.55KirkburnNot sure what you mean by overrides?
17:31.56Sky2042in wowwiki.css
17:32.25Gryphenoverrides?
17:32.44deltronooooo
17:32.46Gryphenyou can change anything done in mw:wowwiki.css
17:32.55deltronthere's a mozilla based web browser for the n800 now
17:33.06Sky2042how so gryphen?
17:33.12Gryphenwith your own
17:33.19Sky2042if i knew how ;_;
17:33.29KirkburnSee Category:User CSS
17:33.37Sky2042lol
17:33.37Gryphenthen what are you talking about no overrides?
17:34.17Sky2042lol fisker-
17:34.22bagginswwhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Islands.JPG
17:34.25Fisker-what_
17:34.27Fisker-?
17:34.39bagginswwI don't think one of those islands is plunder
17:34.41bagginswwthe shape is wrong
17:34.54Sky2042there's nothing there, gryphen, to give people who didn't like the changes and whom don't know how to "revert" them, if you understand, a clue as to how to do so
17:34.58bagginswwand location is too close to stranglethorn
17:35.06Sandwichman2448Yeah
17:35.08bagginswwso gilljim?
17:35.11Sandwichman2448yes
17:35.17bagginswwpost them up :)
17:35.21Gryphensuch is the way with websites sky
17:35.21Sandwichman2448and the oher one
17:35.26bagginswwyay
17:35.35Sandwichman2448Island of dr. bob
17:35.36bagginswwso official map that ackowledges them
17:35.42KirkburnI'm trying to give the site a more conistent look - I'm being purposely conservative with my changes
17:35.56Sky2042eh
17:35.57[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/07/24/ptr-notes-dashing-raptors/
17:36.10bagginswwsandwich can you edit the picture to include text of that nature, ;)
17:36.17Sky2042eh
17:36.23Kirkburn(I would make much larger changes if it were my own site)
17:36.27Sky2042lol
17:36.28Traehaha
17:36.30Traetha'ts cool!
17:36.39TraeRaptors finally become something worth taming
17:36.41bagginswwcause i'm confused which one is more south
17:36.55Kirkburne.g. I want to destroy that frakking sidebar
17:36.58Fisker-http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1185298587583.jpg <-lolwut
17:37.09Sandwichman2448What nayure?
17:37.13Sandwichman2448nature
17:37.37Sandwichman2448The island names?
17:37.40bagginswwya
17:37.42Sandwichman2448Sure
17:37.44bagginswwwhich one is which?
17:37.57Sandwichman2448Hm.
17:38.05bagginswwmight be handy if it was marked before we attached it to the articles
17:38.53bagginswwso people can understand the relation between the two islands which was northa nd which was south
17:39.01bagginswwunless the islands were said to be east and west of each other :p
17:39.07bagginswwin beta :p
17:39.07Sandwichman2448gilli was bigger
17:39.31Sandwichman2448beta was wa while ago
17:39.36Sandwichman2448a
17:39.45Sandwichman2448I'll try
17:40.05bagginswwya very long time lol
17:40.17bagginswwjust wondering if someone remembered where they were compared to each other
17:40.33Sandwichman2448i think gil was bigger
17:41.05bagginsww*where they were in relation to each other
17:42.33Sandwichman2448I aslo remembr it souther.
17:42.51Sandwichman2448I can not type today
17:43.40Sandwichman2448Ill make 2 vertions
17:44.31pcjare you drunk sandwich
17:45.07Sandwichman2448No.
17:45.21Sandwichman2448tired
17:48.09Sky2042ho shit
17:48.57Sandwichman2448How will i fit 'The Island of Doctor Lapidis.' on that tiny thing? Can i shorten it? Any smaller and the text will become unreadable.
17:50.56[NewsBot]Blizzplanet: Error reading source feed. - http://www.blizzplanet.com/rss.php
17:50.59KirkburnUse a font like "Small Fonts"
17:51.20Sandwichman2448I an useing a small font
17:51.21KirkburnSky2042, are there any particular changes you dislike?
17:52.52Sky2042the one i'm most annoyed by was the personal links change to be bold
17:53.10Sky2042that was the only one that remains in my mind from seeing it last night
17:53.15Gryphenlol
17:53.18Sky2042:X
17:53.19Gryphenanal a little
17:53.26Sky2042you betcha!
17:53.28KirkburnI thought it was something important! ;)
17:53.31Sky2042no
17:53.33Sky2042nothing big
17:53.40Sky2042that, and the color of the selected tabs
17:53.48KirkburnOh?
17:53.48Sky2042gold. blgh XD
17:53.55KirkburnThey already were gold
17:53.57Gryphenno gold for me :)
17:54.03KirkburnI made them less lurid though
17:54.14Sky2042huh@kirkburn, lol@gryphen
17:54.29KirkburnTeh selected tabs have always been that orange
17:54.56Sky2042they always seemed white to me :-X
17:55.47KirkburnThe text was blue though before
17:55.58Sandwichman2448I made it, it sucks.
17:56.09Sandwichman2448Uploading now.
17:57.49KirkburnYay for floods >< http://forums.wincustomize.com/?AID=158503
17:58.46laurlycan you edit two difrent pages at the same time using the same login?  ie the bot running twice?
17:58.53Sky2042yes
17:58.56Sky2042:]
17:59.03bagginswwlol sand
17:59.11Sky2042kirkburn, don't worry about it
17:59.25Sky2042you just need to warn ppl in the future about how you're tweaking it :P
17:59.51Gryphenthere are some things users just dont have a say in :)
17:59.53bagginswwya the warning can be on the message when its "thumbed"
18:00.18bagginswwand sandwhich its not too bad imo
18:00.20bagginswwit does the job
18:00.56bagginswwbasically sandwhich just mark it "Could these be the islands"?
18:01.05bagginswwin the thumbs on both pages
18:01.37Sandwichman2448You could have said that
18:02.28bagginswwhuh well they haven't been put up on the related pages yet :p
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18:02.52bagginswwI'm just saying the markings help to tell where the islands were in relation to each other in beta
18:03.29bagginswwbut also needs a warning of somesort that its speculation for unmarked islands heh heh
18:03.39Sandwichman2448ok
18:03.40bagginswwthat just happen to be in a similar location
18:03.43bagginswwto those others
18:04.56Sandwichman2448http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Islands.jpg Eh?
18:05.08bagginswwand sandwhich island of doctor lapidis
18:05.12bagginswwbob?
18:05.36bagginswwsandwhich what I meant was you know the messages you can put under thumb?
18:05.43bagginswwimage|thumb|blah blah
18:05.46Sandwichman2448nope
18:05.56Sandwichman2448I knew that
18:06.08bagginsww[[Image:islands.jpg|thumb|blahblah|
18:06.14Sandwichman2448did not think of it...
18:06.51Sandwichman2448So, which one do I use?
18:07.23bagginswwI like the named one since it shows relationship between the two
18:07.35bagginswwso people have an idea where they were situated in beta
18:07.39Sandwichman2448there are two named ones.
18:07.51Sandwichman2448It may be backwards.
18:08.10bagginswwhmm so you don't know is what your saying?
18:08.33Sandwichman2448I may have mixed them up. beta was a long time ago.
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18:08.39bagginswwhmm :(
18:09.01bagginswwahh well use which you think is best
18:09.16Sandwichman2448I'm not perfect. At all.
18:09.23bagginswwno problem
18:09.32bagginswwjust add "vice versa" to the image LOL
18:09.41bagginsww...or vice versa
18:09.44bagginswwheh heh
18:09.52Sandwichman2448K
18:09.54bagginswwI mean you said you remembered one being bigger than the other
18:10.16bagginswwand maybe someone can help us fix it later on if they remember details
18:10.53bagginsww...or vice versa?
18:10.57bagginswwform of a question heh
18:11.12bagginswwthat might get someone to answer the question
18:11.44Sandwichman2448http://www.wowwiki.com/Gillijim%27s_Isle
18:13.30bagginswwlol heh
18:14.36bagginswwhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Gillijim%27s_Isle
18:15.18bagginswwbtw lapidius is a gemstone type IIRC
18:15.46Sandwichman2448Blue
18:15.46bagginswwso there may not be a direct reference between dr. lapidis
18:15.46bagginswwand the tankard :p
18:15.46Sandwichman2448the gem is blue
18:15.47bagginswwya
18:15.52Sandwichman2448is also a flower
18:16.05bagginswwalso lapis lazuli
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18:16.14bagginswwwhich is also blue
18:16.25bagginswwif it isn't hte same thing?
18:16.40Sandwichman2448yeah I have one... Somewhere.
18:17.12Sandwichman2448http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Wyvern
18:17.23bagginswwLapidus apparently means torch or candle
18:18.28Sandwichman2448...not blue?
18:18.53bagginswwnot sure
18:18.57[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/07/24/mtv-true-life-a-wow-players-casting-call/
18:18.59bagginswwmaybe its a red gemstone
18:19.05Sandwichman2448Read the wyvern page?
18:19.07bagginswwlapis lazuli was dfeinitely blue
18:19.12bagginswwwyvern talk?
18:19.34KirkburnDammit, you beat me to the mineral name
18:19.36Sandwichman2448Is it Whyvern or Wivern? yes.
18:19.37bagginswwthe main article just covers both sets of information from warcraft 3, rpg, and the one in WoW
18:19.47KirkburnOoh, er, it's a rock, not a mineral ><
18:19.47bagginsww"wyvern"
18:20.03bagginswwlol kirkburn
18:20.32bagginswwnow if I only had a copy of wowmapviewer
18:20.36bagginswwthat worked
18:20.42bagginswwso I could confirm which is which
18:20.45bagginswwand its location
18:21.27Kaydeethreewow map viewer: http://www.wowmodelviewer.org/index.php?option=com_remository&Itemid=35&func=fileinfo&id=9
18:21.58bagginswwbtw since the islands appear on an official map released after Wow, then the "removed bit should be moved to the world of warcraft alpha section
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18:22.12bagginswwsince an official source "added" them later heh heh
18:29.58SandwichmanStop it fisker-.
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18:32.53Fisker-why can't i attack?
18:34.49Kasocos you're too high on the threat list
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18:40.11bagginswwbrb
18:44.34KasoI love reverting on Patch_Mirrors so much, i dont know why
18:45.46Kaydeethreehahaha at the top news article on wow.com... they did a pretty good job of recreating the scene
18:45.57[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/07/24/the-ins-and-outs-of-totem-placement/
18:46.46TraeAnyone know of a good Rogue build guide?  A site that can tell you some of the better, best rogue builds?
18:47.50deltronhmm
18:48.18Traehttp://www.almostgaming.com/wowguides/rogue-talent-guide-burning-crusades
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19:05.07KirkburnKaydeethree, found it
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19:05.28Sky2042[10:59] <Gryphen> there are some things users just dont have a say in :): Uh... this is a wiki, is it not?
19:05.47Gryphenit is also a website
19:05.50towerdatabase error at: http://www.wowwiki.com/Horde
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19:06.55KirkburnFine here
19:07.07KirkburnIf it keeps happening ... ?
19:07.27Grypheni keep getting no response
19:07.30Sky2042i got a db error right after he clicked it
19:07.45Sky20421205: Lock wait timeout exceeded; try restarting transaction (ap10.sjc.wikia-inc.com)".
19:07.46KirkburnDone a fake edit
19:11.11Sky2042sweet image tweaking
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19:14.57[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/07/24/world-of-warcraft-hits-9-million-subscribers-worldwide/
19:15.04Sky2042shit
19:15.07Sky20429m
19:15.15deltronno doubt
19:16.10Fisker-old
19:16.28Sky2042truth
19:17.43KirkburnNot old :/
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19:18.48Fisker-i totally read that like 5 minutes ago
19:20.00Sky2042hmmm
19:20.09Sky2042kirkburn, collapsible tables don't quite work
19:20.29Kirkburn??
19:20.30Kasohow many of the 9million are gold seller/farmer accounts i wonder
19:20.42Sky2042http://www.wowwiki.com/Neltharion#See_also both of those boxes should be collapsed
19:20.43Kaydeethreewe'll see in a week with the next batch of mass-bannings
19:21.00Sky2042so that would mean we forgot to add something :|
19:24.12KirkburnHuh Sku?
19:24.14Kirkburn*Sky
19:24.22KirkburnThe first two boxes collapse fine
19:24.36Sky2042yes
19:24.58Sky2042in the js though, it says that they both should be collapsed upon opening the page
19:25.18KirkburnWhy?
19:25.28Sky2042iiiii dunno. it just does
19:25.33KirkburnJust in general they should start collapsed?
19:25.40Sky2042if there's more than one of them on a page, aye
19:26.11KirkburnBtw, I have stats for the top 20 pages viewed in the past few weeks
19:26.31KirkburnMainly new instances and factions
19:27.04KirkburnAlso time spent on page
19:27.23KirkburnProfession does incredibly badly - 19 seconds
19:27.33KirkburnFactions fares little better with 22 seconds
19:27.38Sky2042smalltooltipcss
19:28.03Sky2042pcj
19:28.07Sky2042http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:Smalltooltipcss :D
19:28.08pcjwhat
19:28.13pcji've been working on it
19:28.20pcjmost of those /tooltip pages are obsolete
19:28.26pcjonce foxbot gets in here i'll be done with it
19:28.34Sky2042yeah
19:41.30Sky2042hey, kirkburn, is it possible to make an interwiki link to mediawiki?
19:41.36Sky2042media?
19:41.42KirkburnTo what?
19:41.54Sky2042mediawiki.org
19:42.19KirkburnOh, right, of course mediawiki: is a namespace
19:42.20KirkburnHmm
19:42.24Kirkburnmw?
19:42.28Sky2042tried that
19:42.33Sky2042media doesnt work either
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19:44.03Sky2042woohoo!
19:44.31foxlitGot lucky with timing :)
19:45.00foxlitJust finished one las vegas episode when irc icon bounced :)
19:45.12Fisker-man
19:45.17Kirkburnmediawikiwiki
19:45.18Sky2042hehe
19:45.19Fisker-28 weeks later was an awesome movie
19:45.20Fisker-i totally FAPPED
19:45.22Sky2042serious kirk?
19:45.37Kirkburnum
19:45.43Sky2042seriously*
19:47.06KirkburnI fail, no idea Sky
19:47.10Sky2042hehe
19:47.22KirkburnSeems we don't have one, nor the wikia one
19:47.28Sky2042:o
19:47.34Sky2042hmm
19:47.43KirkburnAdd to WW:SR
19:47.58KirkburnTOR was telling me earlier to give him more work anyway ;)
19:48.05Kirkburn(he would so kick me right now)
19:48.28KirkburnPlan is for more server stuff later this week btw
19:49.51Gryphenmetawiki:
19:50.01KirkburnIs a different wiki :P
19:50.27Sky2042meta != media
19:50.38KirkburnThat's what they all say
19:50.41Gryphenits all stupid :/
19:51.14Sky2042loltruth
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19:53.20Fisker-Kirkburn has teh rage virus
19:55.52Sky2042!item Scroll of Protection V
19:56.02laurlyi suspect im going to have to go skinny diping in ssc to get a decent screen shot of Coilfang Frenzy
19:56.11FoxbotTooltip saved, Sky2042, view at http://www.wowwiki.com/Scroll_of_Protection_V
19:57.57[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/07/24/killing-off-the-horde-and-their-heroes/
19:58.56Jiraiya-sensei-.-
19:59.17Sky2042LOOOOOOOL
20:00.07Sky2042hey, got another wowwiki link from that wowinsider link
20:00.33KirkburnOf course :)
20:01.02Sky2042lol
20:01.27Jiraiya-senseimy tauren need revenge
20:01.29Jiraiya-sensei:D
20:01.39Sky2042jesus
20:01.49Sky2042that was 2.3k? :X
20:07.49pcjnow what sky
20:11.57[NewsBot]GamePolitics: http://gamepolitics.com/2007/07/24/senator-is-a-level-70-dwarf-priest-in-world-of-warcraft/
20:13.15Jiraiya-sensei:D
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20:14.19Teomyrlo
20:19.22Kaydeethreeoh wow. I feel bad for that senator/that server
20:19.38Kaydeethreeit's going to crash with the number of level 1 trolls flooding on to it if that article gets on the boards
20:19.40Gryphenpcj i can delete /tooltip without cd
20:19.41Gryphensd
20:19.47Fisker-typical overpowered dwarves
20:19.50pcjgod ok
20:20.09Gryphenall are obsolete?
20:20.17Kaydeethreeeasy way to find out
20:20.37pcjYes, they should all be
20:21.32Fisker-http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=304141730&postId=3041549076&sid=1#1 <-yay i'm not crazy
20:22.51Fisker-LOL
20:22.53Fisker-shadow specced
20:24.08Fisker-Hydraxian Waterlords 999/1000Exalted
20:24.10Fisker-nice
20:24.10Fisker-:D
20:24.19Kaydeethreebah. I stopped somewhere in the revered range
20:24.30Kaydeethreeonly instance-based faction not exalted for me
20:29.11pcjyou're exalted with scale of the sands kaydee?
20:29.19Kaydeethreeer, old-world instance factions
20:29.57KaydeethreeI dunno if anyone's exalted with SoTS yet
20:34.30Fisker-should i make a macro that may cause instabillity on and/or crash the realm?
20:36.50laurlyserver laging again?
20:37.12Gryphenfor me it hasnt stopped
20:38.52laurlyanyone heard anything about a flask with shadow damage coming in the next patch?
20:39.04Kaydeethreeflask of something death iirc
20:39.32Sky2042pcj, why did you slap me? :(
20:39.40pcjwhat now sky
20:39.55Sky2042nada
20:40.55laurlyits not in the patch notes im wondering what mats are
20:41.20Sky2042its on the wiki somewhere
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20:44.38laurlyhehe 1 pack 2 epic necks and a pattern
20:52.17KirkburnMe and Zarnks are having such fun :)
20:52.29Gryphenhe needs a timeout
20:52.42Sky2042_3rr
20:52.47Kirkburn6rr
20:52.54Sky2042_truth
20:52.54KirkburnBut no, we're having the dicussion at least
20:52.54Sky2042_lol
20:53.08Sky2042_ooo, he's watiing for outside mediation
20:53.14KirkburnI want to be able to ban from articles alone ><
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21:02.15laurlyhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Flask_of_Pure_Death found it
21:02.33laurlyi knew there was a reason i didnt sell those fel lotus or mana thistle
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21:04.17Kaydeethreenightmare vine? ugh. what a pain to collect. I still need to proc other flask discoverys
21:04.24Kaydeethreeall I've got is relentless assault
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21:11.27ggilberthmm, I've always found nightmare vine pretty easy
21:12.20Kaydeethreeya, it's just annoying
21:12.30Kaydeethreehaving to pop mana shield and letting it drain mana or take the health hit
21:12.45ggilbertoh, I just take the health hit
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21:13.53Sky2042_!item Tome of Fireball XII
21:13.59FoxbotTooltip saved, Sky2042_, view at http://www.wowwiki.com/Tome_of_Fireball_XII
21:14.43ggilbertI'm bummed that 2.2 is going to be a while. Black Lotus is always tough to find on my server
21:16.18laurlynightmare vine isnt bad if you do it at like 1am or when other guilds are raiding
21:16.59laurlywhat are they doing to black lotus?
21:17.19laurlyi heard they dropbed off bog loards in zangmarsh i was there for 2 hours didnt get one
21:17.28laurlywell herbed off the lords anyway
21:17.43Kaydeethreethe bog lords and the elite trees up in skettis
21:17.55KaydeethreeI just hit the 4 black lotus spawn zones, takes less time
21:18.04laurlyim not sure my lock has gear for the elite trees
21:18.16laurlyand my priest doesnt have herbing
21:18.35laurlyi should park my tank at a black lotus spawn point
21:19.57[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/07/24/what-to-bring-and-not-to-bring-to-blizzcon/
21:20.24laurlyanother week of lurker i should have fishing maxed :)
21:20.35Sky2042_bring on the baggins!
21:20.37Kaso"But don't get caught hooking it up to a computer."
21:20.38Sky2042_looooool
21:21.25Sky2042_holy shit flyspeck!
21:22.04Kaydeethreeeesh at the RCspam for talk:earthen ring
21:22.31Sky2042_enable the RC change in preferences
21:22.55Sky2042_under recent changes in your preferences, click "enhanced recent changes"
21:23.03Sky2042_(@kaydeethree)
21:23.07Fisker-wtf
21:23.13Fisker-people are starting to use IPv6
21:23.15Fisker-THIS IS AN OUTRAGE
21:23.36Kaydeethreeno wai, people are actually finally starting to use it?
21:23.43Teomyrcrazy
21:23.43Fisker-yeah
21:23.46Fisker-pretty annoying
21:23.49Fisker-some download link
21:24.04Fisker-had to install ipv6 protocol for it
21:24.59Fisker-for fucks sake wow insider
21:25.03Fisker-getting everything wrong
21:25.09Fisker-DO'S ARE IN THE TOP DON'T IN THE BOTTOM
21:25.15Fisker-Do Bring any weapons, alcohol, fireworks, glass bottles, cans, or large containers into BlizzCon.
21:25.17Fisker-NO WAI
21:25.32Fisker-btw
21:25.35deltronipv6 for what?
21:25.35Sky2042_now how the hell did zarnks manage to edit man'ari eredar in the middle of that?
21:25.41Fisker-the first "Do" is solid advice Kirkburn
21:25.49Fisker-hacking deltron
21:25.55Kaydeethreebeer ftw
21:25.57Fisker-he's pretty cool Sky2042_
21:26.03Fisker-someone should go over his edits btw
21:26.21Fisker-found quite a few suspicious edits yesterday
21:28.32Sky2042_Kirkburn: ugh
21:28.33Sky2042_meanie
21:30.22KirkburnMeanie?
21:30.39KirkburnJust compile what everyone wants and let me know :)
21:31.02Fisker-Projectname: Well obviously it should be changed to Fiskerwiki
21:31.12Fisker-A wiki dedicated to the fine art of trolling
21:31.25Fisker-you can take that to the server guys!
21:32.00Sky2042_Fiskerwiki: A wiki dedicated to 4chan
21:32.12Fisker-already out there
21:32.13Fisker-besides
21:32.17Fisker-rules 1 & 2
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21:35.41deltronlol
21:35.47deltronencyclopediadramatica ftw
21:36.08Kaydeethreepart of me's about to say "this isn't a forum. go bitch on /Analysis"
21:36.26Sky2042_rage left that on his talk page, i think
21:36.30Sky2042_lol
21:36.50Sky2042_hey, kirkburn, why don't we send him over to sol? :D
21:39.53Kirkburneeeevil
21:40.21Fisker-what are you going to do about it?
21:45.05*** kick/#wowwiki [Fisker-!n=Kirkburn@82-32-40-219.cable.ubr06.azte.blueyonder.co.uk] by Kirkburn (Nothing at all, my dear Watson)
21:45.16jmelol
21:45.39laurlyhehe
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21:46.15Fisker-sherlock would never kick his trustful partner
21:46.19Fisker-who infact was the detective
21:46.24Fisker-not you my dear holmes
21:48.41KirkburnWhat? Your name is Watson Nargle, I thought?
21:49.03KirkburnHave I been wrong all these years?
21:49.06Fisker-i dunno
22:00.12Teomyr|18yay :D
22:01.33deltronjust turned 18?
22:01.51Teomyr|18yes, at this very moment :)
22:02.46deltroncongrats!
22:03.04Teomyr|18thanks :)
22:03.09Fisker-man
22:03.12Fisker-underage B&
22:03.19Fisker-well atleast if i could go back in time
22:03.22Fisker-but grats anyways
22:03.40Teomyr|18:D
22:04.09Fisker-so Kirkburn
22:04.27Fisker-should i add Grayyghost as a vandal or what should i do?
22:04.34Fisker-He blanked the sandfury trolls page with no reason
22:04.51Fisker-23:55 Talk:Earthen Ring‎ (70 changes; (+14,167) Page history) [Kaydeethree‎ (2×); Flyspeck‎ (3×); Baggins‎ (4×); Sandwichman2448‎ (5×); Kirkburn‎ (27×); Zarnks‎ (29×)]<-btw get a room :(
22:05.06deltronmaybe he really hates sandfury trolls?
22:05.31KirkburnIf it's just a single thing, don't worry too much, just revert
22:05.41Fisker-alright
22:12.14Teomyr|18nn all
22:12.24Fisker-wtf?
22:12.26Fisker-it's your birthday
22:12.30Fisker-no time for sleeping
22:12.38Teomyr|18aye, and last school day for this year
22:13.33Teomyr|18so, have to get up early one more time before the holidays ;)
22:13.46Fisker-:o
22:13.51Fisker-mine's almost over
22:14.11Teomyr|18:P
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22:14.52KirkburnHappy birthday!!
22:14.59Teomyr|18thanks :D
22:15.08*** topic/#wowwiki by Kirkburn -> Channel info: tinyurl.com/36u82j | RC list: tinyurl.com/2oawam | UI questions? Join #wowi-lounge | Wikia spotlight: http://warhammeronline.wikia.com/ | Happy Birthday Teomyr!
22:15.14Teomyr|18xD
22:15.40Fisker-you didn't do that on my birthday Kirkburn :(
22:15.43KirkburnHe's so young :(
22:15.46Kaydeethreebah, I feel old
22:15.51KirkburnKaydeethree, lol
22:15.52Kaydeethreeand I'm only 22
22:15.58KirkburnA kindred spirit
22:16.10Fisker-i don't know how old i am
22:16.10Kirkburn<-- 22
22:16.18KirkburnFisker-, when was your birthday??
22:16.26pcj|20hmm
22:16.28pcj|20that didn't work
22:16.34Fisker-n00b :(
22:16.43Fisker-Kirkburn like 8 months ago
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22:40.35pcjnice
22:42.11Kirkburnhonk
22:42.15Kirkburnsup?
22:42.49pcjout of templates to deprecate :(
22:44.10Kirkburn:O
22:44.23KirkburnYou'll have to move onto the other stuff!
22:44.48pcjwhat other stuff :o
22:45.57[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/07/24/swg-gets-a-galactic-senate-what-do-we-get/
22:46.57KirkburnWW:BR
22:47.09Kirkburnn stuff
22:48.24pcjhttp://www.crn.com/software/201200806
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23:00.43bagginskirkburn I'm not sure but I think the magaha comment used to be on that faq page
23:00.52bagginsmagatha
23:01.00bagginsin place of the "earthen circle"
23:01.17bagginsso it may be a strange retcon
23:01.25bagginsor update
23:02.11KirkburnDon't have the HPG on you?
23:02.26Kirkburn(I do)
23:02.50bagginsI have the pdf here just busy
23:03.01bagginsthe hardcover is in the other room LOL
23:03.09bagginshaving to look up car rental info
23:03.38Kirkburn"An eldery tauren told me that while the name is generations old, the clan as an organisation has existed only a few years"
23:04.27bagginshmm interesting
23:04.40bagginswhat does it mean my name being generations old?
23:05.02KirkburnThe name is old, but the way it acts is new
23:05.07bagginswhat is its relevance? what's witth the "grim"
23:05.37bagginswwanycase the tribe apparently existed before magatha
23:05.51KirkburnWhy are the frostwolves "frost"? :P
23:06.09bagginswwthe animal lives in the mountains :p
23:06.26bagginswwanyways the clan apparently existed before magatha took over according to wow manual
23:06.44bagginswwso if the clan has only existed a few years, the previous chieftain must have started it
23:07.41bagginswwit must have been just a surname before that
23:08.21pcjhmm if only action=raw worked on Special:Whatlinkshere
23:08.46Kirkburnbagginsww, aye, Magatha made the tribe what it is now
23:14.57baggins“Elder Crone” Magatha Grimtotem also resides
23:14.57bagginshere, close enough to the hall of the Council of Elders
23:14.57bagginsto engage in political maneuvering. Apparently “Elder
23:14.58bagginsCrone” is actually a title of respect among the tauren,
23:14.58bagginsas far as I can tell — must have lost something in the
23:14.58bagginstranslation. The Grimtotem clan adopts a harsh stance
23:15.00bagginsagainst the other races of the world and cares little for
23:15.02bagginsCairne’s peacekeeping ways. Rumors allude to dark
23:15.04bagginsaffiliations among the Grimtotems. Some even suggest
23:15.06bagginsthat the Grimtotems wish to bring about Cairne’s
23:15.08bagginsdownfall. If Cairne is suspicious of the Grimtotems’
23:15.09Kirkburnhey hey
23:15.13bagginsmotives, he has so far not openly expressed it.
23:15.15bagginsLands of mystery
23:15.16bagginspg 48
23:15.18KirkburnDon't spam
23:15.18bagginsand sorry :p
23:15.23bagginscouncil of elders
23:15.23Kirkburn:)
23:15.26bagginsnot earthen ring apparently
23:15.58KirkburnIndeed
23:16.52KirkburnBtw, I just found a post where Warthok railed against the wiki on the wow forums, almost a year ago :P
23:17.00KirkburnSeems he has come around :)
23:17.25bagginsand there is one of those little mini adventure seeds that brann tossed into the book as a "rumor" about magatha working with forsaken on some kind of potion
23:17.37bagginsgreat... :p
23:20.16bagginswwok checking alliance and horde now
23:21.41bagginsnothing
23:28.17bagginskirk when I have the time I'll cross reference grimtotems in lands of mystery too
23:36.43pcjhaha
23:36.48pcjthis autoedit script is amazing
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23:44.52bagginswwRumors persist that the Grimtotems prepare to take extreme measures to rid the goblins from their land, including the use ofForsaken-made toxins. Clearly, if these toxins are misused, they could
23:44.55bagginsww44
23:44.57bagginswwLOM
23:45.52bagginswwClearly, if these toxins aremisused, they could cause as much damage as thegoblins.
23:46.45bagginswwGrimtotem tauren, a tribeof dissidents who do not share Cairne Bloodhoof’s ideals of uniting the clans and instead focus on seeking retribution for the wrongs imposed on them iin recent history.pg 45
23:47.19Kirkburnyum
23:47.51Kirkburnpcj_2, if you're doing bot stuff, do it on a bot account please :)
23:49.58bagginswwGrimtotem tribe has been successful in theirinitial attempts to “cleanse” the other races fromthe land.
23:50.02bagginsww45

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