| 00:01.17 | MatthewS | ok |
| 00:01.30 | MatthewS | ive changed 3 templates |
| 00:01.33 | MatthewS | and things are quiet |
| 00:01.38 | MatthewS | not sure which one was it |
| 00:01.44 | MatthewS | or if it was those |
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| 00:04.20 | foxlit | Would the change you made to {{Quality}} result in more work for the parser, not less? |
| 00:04.26 | foxlit | n't |
| 00:05.26 | MatthewS | don't know |
| 00:05.41 | MatthewS | i'm not deep into the internals of wiki code nor template processing |
| 00:07.06 | foxlit | I tseems wiki evalutes all {{}} inclusions regardless of whether they appear in the final output |
| 00:07.17 | foxlit | Caused a lot of interesting Special:Wantedpages a while back :) |
| 00:08.39 | MatthewS | well, it's a black box to me, but i'm working with the info that sometime on the 10th something changed and CPU usage has gone crazy |
| 00:08.46 | MatthewS | and site performance has fallen off |
| 00:08.53 | MatthewS | so i get to poke around |
| 00:18.01 | foxlit | I can't see anything significant in Template: namespace around that time :/ |
| 00:19.25 | MatthewS | http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Qual-color-common any ideas? |
| 00:19.41 | MatthewS | i changed it back at 00:15, load rises, change it again at 00:18 load drops |
| 00:20.01 | MatthewS | but i dont have the same set of error messages as before |
| 00:20.07 | MatthewS | so im not quite sure what's going on |
| 00:20.13 | Gryphen | only that it includes itself |
| 00:21.00 | foxlit | noinclude is cheaper than onlyinclude? |
| 00:21.45 | foxlit | Shouldn't really be :/ |
| 00:23.06 | foxlit | It'd be interesting to see what php tries to do in the background |
| 00:23.24 | foxlit | If it's actually smart, it'd maintain a copy of the page for inclusion only |
| 00:23.33 | Gryphen | mediawiki is free to download :) |
| 00:23.40 | pcj | it looks like it's included on about 15000-20000 articles, considering it takes 4 clicks of (Next 5,000) on http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:Qual-color-common&limit=5000 |
| 00:23.48 | pcj | *3 clicks |
| 00:24.00 | foxlit | !jobqueue |
| 00:24.01 | [NewsBot] | The www.wowwiki.com job queue length is currently 60,833 |
| 00:27.54 | MatthewS | ive restored Template:Quality |
| 00:28.26 | foxlit | Any difference in load for that? |
| 00:28.41 | foxlit | Not that we'll actually see any until the jobqueue reaches that block |
| 00:28.44 | Kaso | MatthewS, do you know about the MW code? i assume multiple edits to a template doesnt cause previous entries to the job queue for that template to be purged (like it really should) |
| 00:29.30 | MatthewS | kaso: nope |
| 00:29.56 | Kaso | we were discussing earlier how apparently inefffiecent the job queue seems to be |
| 00:33.07 | MatthewS | looking stable-ish |
| 00:33.24 | foxlit | !jobqueue |
| 00:33.26 | [NewsBot] | The www.wowwiki.com job queue length is currently 73,885 |
| 00:33.31 | foxlit | Come back when that's ~13k |
| 00:34.08 | foxlit | With any luck, that'll be the {{quality}} pass - currently, it's probably a mix of {{loot}} and {{quality}} that's being reevaluated |
| 00:39.43 | foxlit | http://foxlit.pastey.net/70679-3dzv |
| 00:39.50 | foxlit | It may be time to take a break :/ |
| 00:40.40 | foxlit | One line of code, four lines of error-handling nightmares :/ |
| 00:40.48 | Kaso | i love how my name is still in the code, even though its mutated so much now its barely a remote cousin of my code. |
| 00:42.23 | foxlit | np, will replace next pass |
| 00:42.52 | foxlit | Though your name is mainly on IRC/Wiki clients, which are mostly intact :) |
| 00:43.12 | Kaso | yay! |
| 00:43.21 | foxlit | Would probably end up with some sort of merged Bot object |
| 00:43.52 | foxlit | Bot:RegisterEvent(event, func); Bot:RegisterChatMessage(func); Bot:RegisterTickFunction(func); and so on |
| 00:43.58 | foxlit | Bot:SendIRCMessage("stuff") |
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| 00:46.10 | Jabawokee | hello every body |
| 00:46.15 | pcj | hey |
| 00:46.33 | Jabawokee | hows it going |
| 00:46.52 | pcj | good |
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| 00:48.21 | Jabawokee | cool |
| 00:48.24 | Jabawokee | you play WoW? |
| 00:48.48 | Kaso | most people here do i think is safe to bet |
| 00:48.55 | Kaso | seeing as this is *wow*wiki |
| 00:48.56 | Jabawokee | :P |
| 00:49.54 | Jabawokee | sorry |
| 00:49.59 | Jabawokee | some people might not play |
| 00:50.07 | Kaso | true, but most do |
| 00:50.20 | Jabawokee | guess i wont as anymore questions |
| 00:50.23 | Jabawokee | ask* |
| 00:50.25 | Kaso | nono |
| 00:50.30 | Kaso | feel free to ask anything you like |
| 00:50.52 | Kaso | I'm just a little smarmy, dont mind me |
| 00:51.02 | pcj | what's WoW |
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| 00:51.26 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/07/11/blood-pact-changing-resilience-to-weaken-dots/ |
| 00:54.08 | Jabawokee | is anyone else getting that really really annoying bug when you hit a mob and they dont move and they hit you but you cant hit them :/ |
| 00:54.43 | pcj | no |
| 00:55.36 | Jabawokee | daym |
| 00:56.18 | Kaso | Yes |
| 00:57.12 | Kaso | That happens when your client and the wow server lose syncranisation so it the server "forgets" to update the location of the mob on your client and thus it appears to stand still on your screen. |
| 00:57.20 | Kaso | the quickest way to fix it is to re-log. |
| 00:57.25 | Kaso | (sorry for crap spellinmg |
| 00:59.29 | Jabawokee | np |
| 00:59.33 | Jabawokee | and thanks for telling me |
| 01:02.14 | foxlit | Kaso: mount up and ride away |
| 01:02.17 | foxlit | Then come back |
| 01:02.28 | foxlit | You just need to get the corpse off your screen :) |
| 01:03.14 | Kaso | oh, didnt know that |
| 01:03.20 | Kaso | makes sense thoguh |
| 01:11.47 | Jabawokee | i wonder when this new instance will be released |
| 01:11.53 | pcj | zul'aman? |
| 01:11.57 | Jabawokee | yup |
| 01:12.07 | pcj | they're talking about it at E3 |
| 01:12.12 | pcj | probably in a few months |
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| 01:14.11 | Kirochi | hello |
| 01:14.16 | Jabawokee | hello |
| 01:14.39 | Kaso | hi |
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| 01:15.52 | Kirochi | On the 8th of August |
| 01:15.58 | Kirochi | (or around) |
| 01:16.11 | Kirochi | Blizzard will announce the new expansion |
| 01:16.19 | Kirochi | it is meant to be out in January |
| 01:16.22 | Kaso | How do you know that then? |
| 01:16.32 | Jabawokee | another expansion? |
| 01:16.35 | Kirochi | Player housing will definitely be part of it |
| 01:17.23 | Jabawokee | ¬_¬ |
| 01:17.27 | Kirochi | I have a friend who belongs to the Millenium guild, that defeated Nihilum a few days ago at the Mondial du Gaming |
| 01:17.29 | foxlit | Bleh, why bother with player housing? |
| 01:18.24 | Kirochi | the EWSC revealed a few things about this |
| 01:18.55 | Kaso | care to give any proper cided source rather than "a friend of a friend told my friend this." |
| 01:19.23 | Kirochi | although Northrend is the most likely place to house this expansion, there's still much doubt |
| 01:19.32 | Boubouille | Kirochi : who's your friend ? |
| 01:20.00 | Kirochi | my friend has seen it directly here and heard some from Aguilar, French CM |
| 01:20.12 | Kirochi | Boubouille have you ever come across Necka ? |
| 01:20.52 | Boubouille | nop |
| 01:21.15 | Kirochi | well, he's a moviemaker and member of the Millenium |
| 01:21.34 | Kirochi | there has been some talk about new classes |
| 01:22.00 | Kirochi | but rather few words about the new races (if any) |
| 01:23.00 | Boubouille | well technically, it's not really a news |
| 01:23.08 | Boubouille | it's obvious that the new expansion will be announced in august |
| 01:23.15 | Boubouille | and that it will be released one year after BC |
| 01:24.50 | Kirochi | and ? |
| 01:26.11 | Kirochi | Does that mean you haven't read what followed the first statement ? |
| 01:26.26 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/07/11/world-of-cryingcraft/ |
| 01:27.13 | foxlit | What you're saying is rather vague and semi-obvious |
| 01:28.20 | foxlit | Nor does the apparent source instill any sort of "woah, cool!" factor. |
| 01:28.49 | Kirochi | hm, if I wanted any enthusiasm I wouldn't have posted this here |
| 01:29.04 | Kirochi | if I had wanted* |
| 01:29.24 | Kirochi | don't thimk I'm trying to impress you :-) |
| 01:29.31 | Kirochi | think* damn |
| 01:31.30 | Kirochi | <Kirochi> Player housing will definitely be part of it <= This "vague and semi-obvious" ? |
| 01:33.07 | foxlit | It lacks detail. |
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| 01:35.45 | Kirochi | how can I give you the details I don't have ? |
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| 01:40.42 | Kirochi | alrighty then, guess I'll have to discuss this on the wiki (as usual) |
| 01:41.26 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.www.wowinsider.com/2007/07/11/world-of-cryingcraft/ |
| 01:41.26 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.www.wowinsider.com/2007/07/11/blood-pact-changing-resilience-to-weaken-dots/ |
| 01:41.26 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.www.wowinsider.com/2007/07/11/making-money-in-bc-mine/ |
| 01:41.26 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.www.wowinsider.com/2007/07/11/zulaman-sneak-preview-at-e3/ |
| 01:41.26 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.www.wowinsider.com/2007/07/11/it-came-from-the-blog-questalicious/ |
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| 01:42.35 | Kirochi | where's a kirkburn when you need him |
| 01:42.45 | Kirkburn | dunno |
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| 01:42.59 | Kirochi | hilite ftw |
| 01:43.29 | Kirkburn | what's up? |
| 01:43.34 | Kirochi | nm |
| 01:44.04 | Kirochi | haver you seen the France-England match at the ESWC ? |
| 01:44.29 | Kirochi | Er, I mean, Millenium-Nihilum ? |
| 01:44.58 | Kirochi | five-love 4TFroggies ! |
| 01:45.00 | Kirochi | yayy |
| 01:45.03 | Kirochi | \o/ |
| 01:45.27 | Kirkburn | Btw, I believe what you said earlier about the next expansion :) |
| 01:45.38 | Kirochi | I hate taking holidays in down-under in July |
| 01:45.56 | Kirochi | everything happens in that period |
| 01:45.58 | Kirkburn | Nihilum aren't a PvP guild, no fair :P |
| 01:46.10 | Kirochi | O RLY ? at least one =D |
| 01:46.42 | Kirochi | hey, the Millenium have been doing crap since the end of the BC beta |
| 01:46.54 | Kirochi | it's rather surprising |
| 01:49.31 | Kirochi | and they've been eager to make something nice, something great, some advertising too |
| 01:49.54 | pcj | why should http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Cosmos be local |
| 01:49.58 | Kirochi | that's why they hired a moviemaker (and his favourite translater and scenariii writer, me) |
| 01:51.33 | Kirochi | but with the announcement of the new expansion I'll have to rewrite everything because they won't be able to act for some time |
| 01:52.21 | Kirochi | y'know, beta, new instances, still-not-cleared BC instances, new expansion/levelling etc |
| 01:53.27 | Kirochi | I had a trilogy in mind, but because of this sh!t I gotta write a 40-mins movie that's still understandable with tons of actions |
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| 01:57.54 | Kirkburn | pcj, it shouldn't be |
| 01:58.20 | *** part/#wowwiki zeeg (n=zeeg@69.109.103.158) |
| 01:58.28 | Kirkburn | I think in that case it was more the idea of making it a subpage rather than a global template - but no one really cares :) |
| 01:58.46 | Gryphen | either way it is still a template |
| 01:59.56 | Kirkburn | I've switched the cat :) |
| 02:00.11 | Kirkburn | Also what Gryphen said :) |
| 02:00.42 | Kirkburn | Hmm, soloing 3-man elites isn't as easy with my hunter as it was with my warlock |
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| 02:01.35 | zxdf | ew |
| 02:01.41 | pcj | we |
| 02:01.51 | zxdf | are |
| 02:01.59 | Gryphen | Kirochi |
| 02:02.03 | zxdf | it's me |
| 02:02.18 | Gryphen | itsa me mario |
| 02:02.44 | JesuisunCRS | come into de care, princess |
| 02:03.04 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Warfarin/Sig >_> |
| 02:03.05 | JesuisunCRS | Ia needa soma musherooms so I canna heal |
| 02:03.14 | Gryphen | ya Kirkburn heh |
| 02:03.19 | JesuisunCRS | kick Kirochi >< |
| 02:03.41 | *** kick/#wowwiki [Kirochi!n=Kirkburn@82-32-40-219.cable.ubr06.azte.blueyonder.co.uk] by Kirkburn (And don't come back! ^^) |
| 02:03.58 | JesuisunCRS | stil can't have my nick back |
| 02:04.00 | JesuisunCRS | dammit |
| 02:04.03 | Gryphen | ghost it |
| 02:04.17 | JesuisunCRS | how ? |
| 02:04.19 | Kirkburn | /ns ghost <nick> <password> |
| 02:04.29 | Boubouille | [03:30:42] <Kirochi> <Kirochi> Player housing will definitely be part of it <= This "vague and semi-obvious" ? |
| 02:04.31 | Gryphen | /ns help ghost |
| 02:04.35 | Gryphen | :) |
| 02:04.36 | Boubouille | Player housing have been in game files for ever :/ |
| 02:04.52 | Boubouille | give me something new ! |
| 02:05.00 | Boubouille | like "Vista users will be permanently banned, tea suckers too" |
| 02:05.12 | Kirochi | tu veux de l'info ma grande ? |
| 02:05.16 | Boubouille | Oh wi oh wi. |
| 02:05.56 | Kirochi | bha j'ai essaye de lui faire dire que c'etait Northrend mais il a continue a me dire que y'avait plusieurs possibilites |
| 02:06.19 | pcj | nom de chien! |
| 02:06.24 | Kirochi | en pretendant que les journalistes de chez joystick etaient rentres chez Blizzard et avaient tout vu |
| 02:06.38 | Boubouille | Les Millenium ca reste des gens pret a tout pour avoir un peu de pub |
| 02:06.49 | Boubouille | pour ce qui est des journalistes, c'est vrai, la plupart des magazines FR ont droit a ca |
| 02:07.06 | Kirochi | "que y'avait" >< this is no French, kids, don't copy me |
| 02:07.21 | Kirochi | mwe je suis un peu sceptique quand meme |
| 02:07.36 | Boubouille | go en pv, Kirkburn va se facher sinon ! |
| 02:07.38 | Kirochi | a propos de la pub, je suis bien place, c'est moi qui dois la leur faire ;) |
| 02:07.42 | Kirochi | scuse |
| 02:08.28 | Kirkburn | I did get taught french for seven years |
| 02:08.40 | Kirkburn | However, I remember bugger all :P |
| 02:08.42 | Kirochi | seven too much |
| 02:09.02 | pcj | je m'en fous |
| 02:09.07 | Kirkburn | Heh, that was what I was thinking at the end |
| 02:09.08 | Boubouille | Kirkburn what's the command to allow unidentified users to pm you ? |
| 02:09.28 | Kirkburn | I don't recall >< |
| 02:09.35 | Boubouille | ... useless. |
| 02:09.37 | Boubouille | :( |
| 02:09.42 | Kirochi | I actually did register my pw |
| 02:09.57 | Boubouille | but still can't auth ! |
| 02:09.58 | Kirochi | ... or did I? |
| 02:10.03 | Kirkburn | It might be mode +6 |
| 02:10.16 | Kirkburn | I have this on login "* services. sets mode +6 Kirkburn" |
| 02:10.16 | pcj | /nickserv set unfiltered on |
| 02:10.27 | Kirkburn | Or that :) |
| 02:10.40 | Boubouille | [04:09:44] -NickServ- Toggled UnFiltered [ON] |
| 02:10.40 | Boubouille | - |
| 02:10.42 | Gryphen | /ns help :) |
| 02:12.05 | Kirochi | neway |
| 02:12.20 | Kirochi | bugger off ! you bastard bugger off ! |
| 02:12.26 | pcj | :| |
| 02:13.07 | pcj | silly french |
| 02:17.03 | Kirochi | merci |
| 02:17.08 | Kirochi | je t'aime fromage |
| 02:17.18 | Kirochi | voulez-vous coucher avec moi ? |
| 02:17.19 | pcj | omelette du fromage |
| 02:17.48 | pcj | oui, je veux coucher |
| 02:19.12 | pcj | woohoo netsplit! |
| 02:19.37 | Kirochi | et mon cul, c'est du poulet ? |
| 02:20.44 | pcj | vraiment, il est du poulet |
| 02:21.16 | Kirochi | whoa, advanced level French dans toute sa splendeur |
| 02:21.33 | pcj | [Orcish] kek |
| 02:21.57 | Kirochi | [Zandali] Asshole |
| 02:22.31 | Kirochi | oops, didn't know there were so much trolls in here |
| 02:22.33 | Kirochi | my bad |
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| 02:32.07 | Kirkburn | zomg, we have CSS access? |
| 02:33.12 | Kirochi | carrion food? eugh |
| 02:33.54 | pcj | css access? |
| 02:34.35 | Kirkburn | Hmm, seems, not actually |
| 02:35.19 | pcj | geez |
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| 02:36.28 | pcj | well kirk you modified it for the monobook skin :P |
| 02:36.34 | pcj | wowwiki uses the wowwiki skin |
| 02:36.46 | Kirkburn | I realise |
| 02:36.57 | Kirkburn | However, http://www.wowwiki.com/MediaWiki:Common.css |
| 02:37.22 | pcj | Dun dun dun! |
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| 05:02.07 | pcj | !jobqueue |
| 05:02.08 | [NewsBot] | The www.wowwiki.com job queue length is currently 18,941 |
| 05:26.26 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.m.wowinsider.com/2007/07/11/world-of-cryingcraft/ |
| 05:26.26 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.m.wowinsider.com/2007/07/11/blood-pact-changing-resilience-to-weaken-dots/ |
| 05:26.26 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.m.wowinsider.com/2007/07/11/making-money-in-bc-mine/ |
| 05:26.26 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.m.wowinsider.com/2007/07/11/zulaman-sneak-preview-at-e3/ |
| 05:26.26 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.m.wowinsider.com/2007/07/11/it-came-from-the-blog-questalicious/ |
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| 06:14.02 | MatthewS | !jobqueue |
| 06:14.03 | [NewsBot] | The www.wowwiki.com job queue length is currently 10,516 |
| 06:14.08 | MatthewS | much better |
| 07:11.37 | Kirkburn | This extra RAM has made a huge difference - I can task switch and actually use my PC after quitting WoW :D |
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| 07:32.54 | Kirochi | areuh |
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| 07:36.17 | Kirkburn | MatthewS, what time do you run on? |
| 07:40.32 | Kirkburn | Morning sannse |
| 07:40.37 | sannse | morning |
| 07:40.55 | sannse | Matthew's on San Francisco time, 00:40 there now |
| 07:41.19 | Kirkburn | It's hard to keep track of where everyone is :) |
| 07:41.31 | sannse | *g* yes |
| 07:41.53 | sannse | I have a clock along the bottom of Firefox, helps :) |
| 07:42.19 | Kirkburn | Oh, yeah, I keep forgetting to add that to my VIsta setup |
| 07:43.25 | Kirkburn | Oh, btw, on http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Server_requests - the CSS thing has been a bug for us for quite a while |
| 07:43.39 | Kirkburn | I tested it out earlier - it didn't seem to be working |
| 07:44.25 | Kirkburn | (the ability was turned off for some reason early on in the wiki's life) |
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| 07:45.56 | sannse | OK, looking |
| 07:46.26 | Kirkburn | cool |
| 07:47.08 | sannse | it's certainly something you should have, personal css too (and later you should have Wikia wide css/js) |
| 07:48.39 | Kirkburn | You cannot imagine the "loud" discussions that took place over CSS stuff a few months ago >_> |
| 07:48.55 | sannse | eep! on the main look of the site? |
| 07:49.16 | Kirkburn | Nah, mostly over being unable to do much cool stuff or get consistency |
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| 07:49.54 | sannse | yeah, there is a lot that can be done with those pages active |
| 07:49.57 | Kirkburn | Hopefully I can convince some people to come back when we have this stuff :) |
| 07:50.13 | Kirkburn | Well, one person anyway |
| 07:55.14 | sannse | well I can see why it's not working... firstly you are on a custom skin, so the pages I pointed to won't work (sorry)... but more importantly, the site isn't calling any of the css pages other than the main one. |
| 07:55.25 | sannse | this should be fixable, I'll request it now |
| 08:03.09 | Kirkburn | Awesome |
| 08:03.20 | |FF|Im2good4u | np |
| 08:03.39 | Kirkburn | morning |FF|Im2good4u |
| 08:03.52 | |FF|Im2good4u | yes u2 |
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| 08:09.01 | Gerald | IDENTIFY Gerald |
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| 08:10.25 | Gerald | Hi all, just listenin |
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| 08:14.25 | nemppu | why do they have to kill all the cool characters in burning crusade ;_; |
| 08:15.05 | nemppu | i can still remember freeing zul'jin in warcraft II and soon he's a boss in zul'aman im supposed to kill for loot? >.<; |
| 08:19.33 | Kirkburn | nemppu, could be a redemption type thing :) |
| 08:19.49 | Kirkburn | (Unless I've missed an announcement and they say you kill him?) |
| 08:19.57 | Kirkburn | Gerald, welcome |
| 08:23.06 | sannse | Kirkburn: css and js done |
| 08:23.13 | sannse | yay TOR! |
| 08:23.23 | nemppu | http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=1497 |
| 08:23.35 | Kirkburn | Confirmed :D |
| 08:32.12 | Kirkburn | Tekkub, CSS access :) |
| 08:32.31 | Tekkub | LOLOMGWTFBBQKYIFF |
| 08:32.40 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 08:32.53 | Kirkburn | I wonder if I can convince Zeal to come back now :P |
| 08:33.15 | Tekkub | pfft |
| 08:33.27 | Tekkub | I'll attack darktable tomorrow if I get a chance |
| 08:33.42 | Tekkub | I'm expecting nekkid company, and I do have paying work I have to do |
| 08:33.52 | Tekkub | but I might be able to squeeze it in |
| 08:33.54 | Kirkburn | :) |
| 08:35.55 | laurly | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=User:Laurlybot/Sandbox/npc&oldid=743259 <-- think we should put a little ? if its a quest item that drops |
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| 08:38.38 | Gerald | Login off ty bb. |
| 08:38.43 | Kirkburn | toodles |
| 08:39.04 | Kirkburn | laurly, what do you mean? |
| 08:40.33 | laurly | whats up with all the links being underlined? |
| 08:40.47 | Kirkburn | Could you create some template sentence like "this vendor is in Stranglethorn Vale"? |
| 08:41.08 | Kirkburn | Not underlined for me |
| 08:41.34 | laurly | http://www.wowwiki.com/Aged_Kodo <--- aged kodo hide is a quest item it drops from that should we mark it? |
| 08:41.35 | sannse | laurly: check your prefernces, it's an option there |
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| 08:41.49 | laurly | hmm |
| 08:41.56 | laurly | firefox messed up then |
| 08:42.13 | Kirkburn | Yes, quest drops should definately be marked |
| 08:42.21 | laurly | Kirkburn yeah i was thinking something like '''mob name''' is a lvl X and can be found in zone y |
| 08:42.36 | laurly | Kirkburn name that icon :) |
| 08:42.38 | Kirkburn | I'm going to ninja add some Wikia links to the MP and be damned with the consequences :P |
| 08:42.59 | Kirkburn | Name that icon?? |
| 08:43.08 | laurly | what icon should we use to mark quest items droped |
| 08:43.17 | Kirkburn | oh right |
| 08:43.17 | laurly | the yellow "?" |
| 08:43.21 | Kirkburn | Yeah |
| 08:43.32 | Kirkburn | Nothing else would fit :P |
| 08:43.47 | laurly | the little yellow dot that shows up on your mini map? |
| 08:44.13 | laurly | btw got skinning and herbing tables working. |
| 08:44.44 | laurly | got an issue with npcs that sell items for tokens and not money need to fix that today |
| 08:45.05 | Kirkburn | If a "?" isn't reabable, then yeah |
| 08:46.03 | Kirkburn | Hmm, I think the wiki is getting CPU spikes again |
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| 08:48.07 | JunkHead-Work | Hello. |
| 08:48.12 | laurly | sannse wheres that setting? |
| 08:48.37 | Kirkburn | Misc |
| 08:48.42 | Kirkburn | Second option |
| 08:48.52 | sannse | yep, a dropdown box there |
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| 08:49.06 | laurly | duh |
| 08:49.22 | laurly | god thats better thanks :) |
| 08:53.55 | Kirkburn | Done some wikia related updates to the MP :D |
| 08:54.12 | Kirkburn | Check the bottom of the first box |
| 08:55.33 | laurly | we have fun? |
| 08:55.55 | Kirkburn | Hmm? |
| 08:56.23 | laurly | thought you ment your main page dont mind me im herbing and ircing :/ |
| 08:56.28 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 08:56.49 | laurly | finaly found a time no one else is picking flowers in shadowmoon vally |
| 08:57.26 | [NewsBot] | GamePolitics: http://gamepolitics.com/2007/07/12/if-politicians-were-world-of-warcraft-characters/ |
| 09:21.12 | Fisker- | oh hi Kirkburn |
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| 10:10.44 | Kirkburn | Fisker-, um, hello? |
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| 10:52.11 | winkiller | eh, all links underlined? |
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| 10:58.36 | Fisker- | rawr? |
| 11:01.54 | Kirkburn | winkiller, you too? |
| 11:01.59 | Kirkburn | That'd odd |
| 11:02.02 | Kirkburn | *that's |
| 11:02.08 | winkiller | iirc it was ok yesterday |
| 11:02.12 | winkiller | lates FF on XP |
| 11:02.23 | Kirkburn | Yeah, site has lots of updates in the works :) |
| 11:02.34 | Kirkburn | Anyway, to turn that off, go to prefs --> misc --> 2nd option |
| 11:02.41 | winkiller | thanks |
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| 11:03.43 | winkiller | yay, 90s feeling gone again |
| 11:03.43 | Kirkburn | sannse, some others are mentioning an underlining change too |
| 11:04.06 | Kirkburn | And a guy on Safari on OSX says the text is looking "more squareish" |
| 11:04.32 | Kirkburn | I checked the css pages earlier, but they're empty of anything relevant |
| 11:04.37 | sannse | hum... those files should have been empty... |
| 11:05.21 | sannse | I've poked TOR |
| 11:05.27 | Kirkburn | ta |
| 11:06.01 | Kirkburn | I've not seen an underlining thing ... /but/ I think the colour of my red links may have changed (gone darker) |
| 11:06.40 | sannse | winkiller: what's your nick on wiki? the same? |
| 11:06.47 | winkiller | Flotsam |
| 11:07.01 | sannse | ah yes |
| 11:07.08 | winkiller | and I just switched it to browser default |
| 11:08.36 | Kirkburn | winkiller, would you say the colour of red links has gone darker for you? |
| 11:08.45 | winkiller | hm, sec |
| 11:09.02 | Kirkburn | You can find one on the prefs --> misc page |
| 11:09.03 | winkiller | yes, definitely |
| 11:09.12 | winkiller | also on /Dreadsteed |
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| 11:09.38 | Kirkburn | Hey TOR_CNR |
| 11:10.01 | TOR_CNR | what's wrong? |
| 11:10.09 | sannse | [12:08] <Kirkburn> winkiller, would you say the colour of red links has gone darker for you? |
| 11:10.09 | sannse | [12:08] <winkiller> hm, sec |
| 11:10.09 | sannse | [12:08] <Kirkburn> You can find one on the prefs --> misc page |
| 11:10.09 | sannse | [12:08] <winkiller> yes, definitely |
| 11:10.39 | TOR_CNR | ... |
| 11:10.43 | TOR_CNR | wha?! :D |
| 11:10.50 | TOR_CNR | OK, hang on |
| 11:11.09 | sannse | so the issues are: darker text, underlining, and possibly a font change in one OS |
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| 11:11.38 | TOR_CNR | I haven't even looked at the CSS code, let alone touched it :P |
| 11:11.49 | Fisker- | NEED FORUUUUUUUUUUUMS |
| 11:11.51 | Kirkburn | Freaky :) |
| 11:12.12 | sannse | I just looked at the source, and it's only the expected loads as far as I can see |
| 11:12.20 | Kirkburn | Fisker-, which type would you like - wiki or Blizzard? :P |
| 11:12.29 | Fisker- | blizzard |
| 11:12.32 | winkiller | "I didn't change anything" ftw :) |
| 11:12.41 | Fisker- | I've got trolling to do |
| 11:12.41 | TOR_CNR | winkiller: honest :P |
| 11:12.47 | winkiller | heeh |
| 11:13.11 | winkiller | not consciously, TOR |
| 11:13.19 | sannse | a { |
| 11:13.20 | sannse | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:13.20 | sannse | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:13.20 | sannse | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:13.20 | sannse | } |
| 11:13.47 | Kirkburn | That's the blue links |
| 11:13.48 | Kaso | "Chinese players of World of Warcraft, a hugely popular online role-playing game, have expressed outrage after their 'undead skeleton' characters were suddenly clad in new flesh, apparently in order to comply with a secret government ban on bare bones." |
| 11:13.50 | Kaso | O.o |
| 11:13.58 | Fisker- | owld |
| 11:14.05 | winkiller | a.stub { |
| 11:14.05 | winkiller | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:14.30 | winkiller | the name would fit |
| 11:14.33 | Kirkburn | class new I think is the red links - #cc2200 |
| 11:14.43 | sannse | humm... |
| 11:14.53 | winkiller | a.new, #p-personal a.new { |
| 11:14.54 | winkiller | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:15.05 | Kirkburn | Or at least that's what my dev toolbar is telling me |
| 11:15.18 | winkiller | cc2200 is orange |
| 11:15.21 | sannse | but the text-decoration: none; is for all links |
| 11:15.26 | winkiller | surely not the red stub |
| 11:15.45 | TOR_CNR | #CC2200 |
| 11:15.52 | TOR_CNR | aha! ...I hope |
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| 11:16.33 | Kirkburn | I'm loving how my dev toolbar is telling me links are underlined, whilst when tracing it, it gives me text-decoration:none |
| 11:16.35 | winkiller | sec, I'll install a colorpicker |
| 11:17.08 | Kirkburn | Y'know, that is some weird CSS |
| 11:17.13 | winkiller | it may also be border-vottom |
| 11:17.48 | Kirkburn | Well, I want to know why I'm being told the links have borders when they evidently don't! :/ |
| 11:18.54 | Kirkburn | I really want to fiddle with main.css >< |
| 11:19.05 | TOR_CNR | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=-&action=raw&gen=css |
| 11:19.16 | winkiller | ok, NOW it is cc2200 |
| 11:19.19 | winkiller | which is wrong |
| 11:19.23 | TOR_CNR | this is probably what's causing the darker links |
| 11:19.43 | Kirkburn | User stuff? |
| 11:20.55 | TOR_CNR | what's the correct colour? |
| 11:21.22 | Kirkburn | f05048 I think |
| 11:21.34 | Kirkburn | That's what A.new shows in main.css |
| 11:21.48 | TOR_CNR | right |
| 11:21.59 | Kirkburn | (Not sure what A.stub is, but that's aa2233) |
| 11:22.01 | TOR_CNR | I'll try a quick fix. |
| 11:22.08 | Kirkburn | cool |
| 11:24.55 | Kirkburn | Hmm, methinks the WoWWiki CSS was generated somehow - sides are all defined separately, and sometimes a single class/id is defined in several locations >< |
| 11:25.15 | TOR_CNR | that's how CSS works :) |
| 11:25.26 | Kirkburn | Weird CSS, maybe |
| 11:25.59 | Kirkburn | Why define H1, H2, etc ... then go back and define fontsizes for each afterwards? |
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| 11:26.57 | sannse | this is what happens when stylesheets are written by large groups of volunteers ;) |
| 11:26.59 | TOR_CNR | ordering it is another issue :P |
| 11:27.19 | TOR_CNR | but the fact that it works that way comes from the very concept of cascading :) |
| 11:27.41 | Kirkburn | Bah, cascading |
| 11:28.34 | Kirkburn | It's 1959 lines :/ |
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| 11:31.25 | Kirkburn | Darn, Monobook on Wikia is 2665 lines |
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| 11:34.56 | TOR_CNR | OK, the hack won't help, this stuff is loaded later so it overwrites everything. |
| 11:35.02 | TOR_CNR | need to use a higher level spell :P |
| 11:36.18 | amro | Kirkburn: go w/ firefox for debugging, firebug and that dev toolbar are a must |
| 11:37.42 | Kirkburn | I think was partly my lack of realising the skin was a direct copy of the default Monobook skin with numbers changed :P |
| 11:38.06 | Kirkburn | I would use FF more, but it takes an age to load up for me |
| 11:38.32 | Fisker- | IE wins |
| 11:39.50 | Kirkburn | You know vl.ad is a Mozilla guy, right? :P |
| 11:40.28 | amro | Kirkburn: true, it's quite bloated. I only use it for debugging and ofc to make sure my pages look alright |
| 11:41.31 | winkiller | I've been replacing IE since the Netscape days |
| 11:41.58 | winkiller | only IE 4.0 was feature-rich enough to get my attention for a time :P |
| 11:44.48 | amro | I use konqueror. KHTML is awesome! |
| 11:45.14 | Fisker- | IE!!!! |
| 11:45.18 | amro | konqi! |
| 11:45.37 | winkiller | ff! |
| 11:45.51 | amro | elynx! |
| 11:45.52 | winkiller | vi > emacs |
| 11:45.55 | winkiller | postfix > sendmail |
| 11:46.00 | winkiller | dovecot > cyrus |
| 11:46.15 | amro | you forgot kde > gnome |
| 11:46.23 | winkiller | no, gnome > kde |
| 11:46.28 | winkiller | ubuntu > redhat |
| 11:46.37 | winkiller | who wants some? |
| 11:46.44 | Fisker- | i already won |
| 11:46.48 | Fisker- | cause i killed you |
| 11:50.02 | winkiller | hm |
| 11:50.02 | winkiller | you got a point there |
| 11:50.02 | winkiller | but why do I still answer? |
| 11:50.03 | Fisker- | dunno |
| 11:50.06 | Fisker- | ghost perhaps |
| 11:50.22 | winkiller | my head hurts. do ghosts have headaches? |
| 11:52.16 | TOR_CNR | does it work yet? the not-so-dark links? |
| 11:52.25 | TOR_CNR | should be fine now *corsses fingers* |
| 11:52.56 | amro | winkiller: ff just crashed. konqi wins. |
| 11:53.10 | winkiller | yeah., linux ff |
| 11:53.18 | winkiller | mine didn't crash since 1.7 or so |
| 11:53.43 | winkiller | yes TOR |
| 11:53.45 | winkiller | thanks |
| 11:53.50 | TOR_CNR | whew |
| 11:53.51 | TOR_CNR | :) |
| 11:53.55 | winkiller | looks quite original |
| 11:56.07 | winkiller | hm, I just noticed that my first edit was in feb 06. and fandyllic left the "welcome" on my talk page in jul 06 :P |
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| 12:17.21 | TOR_CNR | Note: Enabling captcha extension. If anything goes wrong, scream. |
| 12:26.07 | TOR_CNR | Kirkburn: anons can now edit, captchas trigger when any user who is not sysop, staff or bot tries to add an URL or when anybody tries to create an account. |
| 12:26.29 | winkiller | sounds like more patrolling to do |
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| 13:13.14 | Kirkburn | TOR_CNR, cool |
| 13:13.27 | pcj | oh geez |
| 13:13.29 | Kirkburn | I won't announce it yet |
| 13:14.16 | Kirkburn | TOR_CNR, what type of captcha? |
| 13:14.37 | TOR_CNR | x + y = [input result here] ;) |
| 13:15.02 | pcj | is it <label>'d? |
| 13:15.29 | TOR_CNR | probably, I'd have to check |
| 13:15.53 | foxlit | it's cause computers can't do math! |
| 13:16.08 | Kirkburn | Ooh, same as Wowace.com :O |
| 13:16.16 | foxlit | ~2+2 |
| 13:16.17 | infobot | i heard 2+2 is 5 |
| 13:16.17 | TOR_CNR | foxlit: most spam bots are to stupid to even tell it's a captcha. no use for overkill. |
| 13:17.57 | Hobinheim|work | Kirkburn, i caught that WW:SR update yesterday, but i didn't bother looking at the timestamp, haha, i thought he had that stuff for a while |
| 13:18.02 | Hobinheim|work | morning btw |
| 13:18.06 | Hobinheim|work | o7 |
| 13:18.09 | pcj | now that user JS is enabled i've gotta figure out how to replace the google search box with the default one |
| 13:18.17 | Kirkburn | Hobinheim|work, it was broken at the time you saw it ;) |
| 13:19.16 | foxlit | Holy underlining crap! |
| 13:19.40 | Kirkburn | Holy check your preferences, batman! |
| 13:19.55 | foxlit | Meh |
| 13:19.59 | foxlit | Nerf preferences! |
| 13:20.03 | Kirkburn | Prefs --> Misc --> Second Option |
| 13:20.40 | foxlit | Hey, my CSS from ages ago suddenly works |
| 13:21.08 | Kirkburn | What do you mean? |
| 13:21.51 | Kaso | Have you guys changed the style for links? Why is everything underlined now >.< |
| 13:22.11 | Kirkburn | Prefs --> Misc --> Second Option |
| 13:22.38 | notfoxlit | Hey, there's something odd about them links! |
| 13:22.46 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 13:23.01 | notfoxlit | It's as if they're all underlined or something |
| 13:23.01 | Hobinheim|work | sorry, busy @ work and starcraft2 updates,hehe |
| 13:23.14 | Kirkburn | SC2 updates? |
| 13:23.38 | *** topic/#wowwiki by Kirkburn -> Channel info: tinyurl.com/36u82j | RC list: tinyurl.com/2oawam | UI questions? Join #wowi-lounge | Nominate a Featured Article today - WW:FA | Wikia spotlight: http://warhammeronline.wikia.com/ | Ladies and gentlemen, we have CSS. Meanwhile, Prefs --> Misc --> Underline links |
| 13:23.40 | Kaso | thanks kirkburn |
| 13:23.47 | Kirkburn | :) |
| 13:24.00 | Kaso | btw, i have a patch_mirrors related story to tell you |
| 13:24.02 | Hobinheim|work | anybody remember any OTHER races in starcraft besides the three playable |
| 13:24.05 | Hobinheim|work | and the xel'naga |
| 13:24.15 | Kirkburn | The french. |
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| 13:24.53 | TOR_CNR | Hobinheim|work: nope. |
| 13:25.32 | Hobinheim|work | Hobin... PUNCH!!!!! |
| 13:26.04 | Kaso | basically Kirkburn they guy from wowpatchs.de has registered "0daypatch.com" in a clear effort to get to the top of the list, however the links he proivded were just to /downloads rather than the correct patch pages so i removed them, we had a discussion on my user page, and he's now added direct links, but they are to wowpatches.de, but he's listed it under 0daypatch.com |
| 13:26.17 | Kaso | He's basically trying to play the system, and i'd like if you could take a lookie |
| 13:26.27 | Kaso | http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Kaso http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Contributions/Redzac |
| 13:27.40 | Kirkburn | Wow, that is seriously cheeky |
| 13:28.16 | Hobinheim|work | would you say that either of hte night elves or undead in war3 focus on "zerging" as a technique? |
| 13:28.29 | Hobinheim|work | i'm trying to think of what a fourth starcraft race would play like... |
| 13:28.40 | Hobinheim|work | the three existing ones pretty much cover the spectrum from quality vs quantity |
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| 13:29.00 | Hobinheim|work | when i think night elf, i think ranged. and when i think undead, i think of corpses and sacrificing |
| 13:29.18 | TOR_CNR | is there anything of the sort planned for SC2? |
| 13:29.23 | Kirkburn | Kaso, personally I want to blacklist him :P |
| 13:29.25 | foxlit | Time to register 0000000000000000000000000000aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaapatch.com |
| 13:29.52 | Kaso | Well you're the admin! *cough* |
| 13:33.47 | Kirkburn | I have changed him back to wowpatches.de |
| 13:33.52 | Hobinheim|work | you know what's sad, i bought burning crusade at midnight and i don't feel that excited about sc2 |
| 13:35.01 | Kaso | eventually he's fix his site coding so he can do direct links to 0daypatchs, but we'll cross that bridge |
| 13:35.17 | Kirkburn | He can do the work if he's that desperate |
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| 13:36.26 | Kirkburn | Someone make a unregistered edit to test! |
| 13:37.59 | Kaso | Im too lazy to jump trhough the email confirmation hoops |
| 13:38.11 | Hobinheim|work | unregistered means you don't confirm anything........ |
| 13:38.24 | Hobinheim|work | unless i'm mistaken |
| 13:38.25 | Kirkburn | Its like the definition, man |
| 13:38.29 | foxlit | #item [sandbox] Major Healing Potion |
| 13:38.30 | Hobinheim|work | man! |
| 13:38.35 | Kaso | well then its broken |
| 13:38.51 | Hobinheim|work | uhh |
| 13:38.58 | Hobinheim|work | it says i have to register my e-mail |
| 13:39.03 | Hobinheim|work | and the only way to do that is to have an account |
| 13:39.05 | Hobinheim|work | kinda circular |
| 13:39.12 | Kaso | i just tried to vanalise kirburns user page and got the same |
| 13:39.19 | Hobinheim|work | lol |
| 13:39.26 | Hobinheim|work | i was aiming for vandalism also |
| 13:39.30 | Kirkburn | My page is locked, ffs |
| 13:39.46 | Kirkburn | You're hardly going to get anywhere with that one :P |
| 13:39.50 | Kaso | oh damn |
| 13:40.00 | Kaso | Well, i still got blocked by the email thing |
| 13:40.03 | Hobinheim|work | well any other page, same thing |
| 13:40.04 | Kirkburn | Indeed :P |
| 13:40.27 | Kirkburn | Very lol |
| 13:40.34 | Kirkburn | TOR_CNR, something for you ^^ |
| 13:41.05 | Kirkburn | You can't edit unregistered, cause it asks for e-mail confirmation |
| 13:42.45 | Kirkburn | Email confirmation was added not too long before the move, I assume some obscure setting was fiddled |
| 13:43.36 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+v TOR_CNR] by Hobinheim|work |
| 13:44.03 | Kirkburn | Oh, he'll love that :P |
| 13:51.19 | Kirkburn | Hobinheim|work, if you want to head up the article team, please go ahead |
| 13:51.34 | foxlit | #leave #wowwiki |
| 13:51.35 | *** part/#wowwiki Foxbot (n=Foxbot@0x573e6bae.albnxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 13:51.35 | Hobinheim|work | wooot |
| 13:51.36 | Hobinheim|work | tenx |
| 13:51.49 | foxlit | Just so people aren't tempted to poke at it before I'm quite done :) |
| 13:52.27 | Kirkburn | Also, feel free to start some CSS stuff ... we had a page on that once, didn't we? |
| 13:52.49 | Kirkburn | Aha! WoWWiki:Styling |
| 13:53.18 | Kirkburn | And it even has a started wowwiki.css! |
| 13:54.09 | TOR_CNR | Kirkburn: ah... |
| 13:54.39 | TOR_CNR | Kirkburn: I'll remove the e-mail confirmation then :) |
| 13:54.53 | Kirkburn | From everyone?? |
| 13:55.31 | Kirkburn | (we needed it to stop spam) |
| 13:55.51 | TOR_CNR | hm. unregistered only? that way you'll still have to confirm to create new pages, but not to edit them. |
| 13:55.55 | Taurmindo | foxlit: i poke at it in private messages! |
| 13:55.55 | Taurmindo | :) |
| 13:56.27 | TOR_CNR | plus, you'll be stopped by captcha if you add URLs. cool? :) |
| 13:56.35 | Kirkburn | Yeah, okay :) |
| 13:56.44 | Kirkburn | Forgot about the captcha >< |
| 13:57.45 | Hobinheim|work | Kirkburn, article council has a suggestion that's been a long time coming |
| 13:58.17 | Kirkburn | What's that? |
| 13:58.21 | Hobinheim|work | [[Category:Epic Edge Weapons]] vs [[Category:Epic edge weapons]] |
| 13:58.40 | Hobinheim|work | i think it should be lower case like that since words like edge and weapons aren't proper nouns |
| 13:58.46 | Hobinheim|work | it's in the same vein that we title articles and headings |
| 13:58.46 | pcj | kek i did it |
| 13:58.52 | Kirkburn | I think much the same Hob |
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| 13:59.04 | Hobinheim|work | and i looked over the edit history of the policy and it was that way originally |
| 13:59.07 | Hobinheim|work | and changed out of the blue |
| 13:59.16 | Kirkburn | Weird |
| 13:59.19 | foxlit | Gief {{Stub/Item/Set}} tbh |
| 13:59.20 | Hobinheim|work | yeah |
| 13:59.22 | Kirkburn | I fully support the notion |
| 13:59.38 | Kirkburn | Who edited it? |
| 13:59.44 | foxlit | [[Category: Community Teams]] |
| 13:59.52 | foxlit | Teams isn't a proper noun either. |
| 13:59.56 | Hobinheim|work | it was so, SO long ago |
| 13:59.57 | Hobinheim|work | hmm |
| 14:00.07 | foxlit | It's title case, really. |
| 14:00.20 | Hobinheim|work | mikk |
| 14:00.31 | pcj | we should do camel case |
| 14:00.45 | foxlit | Need to retire all of the /Content pages, really |
| 14:00.50 | Hobinheim|work | lol no |
| 14:00.54 | foxlit | <includeonly></includeonly> solves all of those problems |
| 14:00.59 | Hobinheim|work | err no regards to camel case i mean |
| 14:01.04 | Hobinheim|work | "solves" |
| 14:01.23 | foxlit | (although perhaps not "display this message but only for the purposes of showing how it looks") |
| 14:01.48 | Hobinheim|work | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=WoWWiki%3APolicy%2FCategory&diff=177721&oldid=177679 |
| 14:01.59 | Hobinheim|work | gosh darn it mikk |
| 14:02.28 | Kirkburn | I don't recall it changing though |
| 14:03.05 | Kirkburn | I've pinged him |
| 14:03.50 | Hobinheim|work | we can just change it back =) |
| 14:03.54 | Hobinheim|work | and then bot it when we come to it |
| 14:04.05 | Kirkburn | First, discuss on your team's page :P |
| 14:04.37 | Hobinheim|work | yarrrgggg!!! |
| 14:04.47 | Hobinheim|work | next time, gadget... |
| 14:06.26 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/07/12/around-azeroth-between-zangarmarsh-and-nagrand/ |
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| 14:11.16 | Kirkburn | Hobinheim|work, it may have been a conflict between the Naming and Category policies |
| 14:12.30 | Hobinheim|work | how so |
| 14:12.40 | Hobinheim|work | they're two different namespaces that would never collide |
| 14:12.45 | Kirkburn | Check the early versions of the Naming policy |
| 14:13.05 | Kirkburn | 7th June 2006 - tells people to put cat names in title case |
| 14:13.28 | Kirkburn | (would link, but looking at it on another PC) |
| 14:14.12 | Hobinheim|work | of that page? |
| 14:14.15 | Kirkburn | I reckon he was going for consistency, and at the time, that may have been the main way cats were named |
| 14:14.21 | Kirkburn | Of the Naming policy |
| 14:14.36 | Hobinheim|work | oh right |
| 14:15.25 | Kirkburn | An unfortunate change that is ripe for changing |
| 14:16.08 | Hobinheim|work | on my lengthy to do list... |
| 14:16.13 | Hobinheim|work | i'm swamped at work =( |
| 14:18.09 | Hobinheim|work | OH BURN |
| 14:18.15 | Hobinheim|work | Fisker- CALLIN YOU OUT SON |
| 14:19.15 | Fisker- | DAMNIT |
| 14:19.18 | Fisker- | i want my forums |
| 14:19.20 | Fisker- | can't login |
| 14:19.24 | Fisker- | |Pixel| do fix |
| 14:20.30 | Fisker- | missing out on some sweet trolling |
| 14:21.00 | |Pixel| | huh ? |
| 14:21.06 | |Pixel| | forums login are fucked up ? |
| 14:21.51 | |Pixel| | shoo, shoo, I was able to log in :P |
| 14:23.08 | Fisker- | i'm not :( |
| 14:23.14 | Fisker- | constant login error |
| 14:23.20 | Fisker- | been having it all day |
| 14:23.26 | |Pixel| | interesting |
| 14:23.30 | Fisker- | so many threads trolled, but not by me |
| 14:23.35 | |Pixel| | account hacked ? :P |
| 14:23.46 | Fisker- | would never let that happen :o |
| 14:24.12 | deltron | PEBKAC |
| 14:24.15 | Fisker- | Next Bill Date: 12 July 07 04:01 CEST |
| 14:24.19 | Fisker- | I guess this is the problem? |
| 14:24.37 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 14:24.37 | deltron | noob |
| 14:24.39 | Fisker- | payment pending |
| 14:24.44 | Fisker- | i could login ingame though |
| 14:24.52 | deltron | hmm |
| 14:25.55 | |Pixel| | or you are in the 'grace' period |
| 14:26.16 | Fisker- | there :D |
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| 14:27.57 | foxlit | http://www.wowwiki.com/Major_Healing_Potion |
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| 14:30.08 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+v Foxbot] by ChanServ |
| 14:30.17 | pcj | heh you can turn off the adds using js |
| 14:30.19 | pcj | ads* |
| 14:31.45 | foxlit | #item Minor Healing Potion, Lesser Healing Potion, Healing Potion, Unstable Healing Potion, Super Healing Potion |
| 14:32.04 | foxlit | Hah, knew that was too easy |
| 14:32.06 | pcj | did you change dolist? |
| 14:32.22 | foxlit | #item Minor Healing Potion, Lesser Healing Potion, Healing Potion, Unstable Healing Potion, Super Healing Potion |
| 14:32.23 | Foxbot | Okay, foxlit, queued Minor Healing Potion, Lesser Healing Potion, Healing Potion, Unstable Healing Potion, Super Healing Potion. |
| 14:32.25 | foxlit | Yeah |
| 14:34.07 | foxlit | Plus queue does attrition |
| 14:34.08 | foxlit | "16:33, 12 July 2007 Foxbot (Talk | contribs) (Bot; item 118 (Minor Healing Potion) queued by foxlit) " |
| 14:34.44 | pcj | update documentation :o |
| 14:35.11 | Taurmindo | is there a specific formula for converting xp to gold for lvl 70 classes? where can i find it, if so? |
| 14:35.37 | Kaso | 1600xp = 1g iiirc |
| 14:35.42 | Kaso | or 1500 |
| 14:35.43 | pcj | http://www.wowwiki.com/Formulas:XP_To_Level |
| 14:35.51 | pcj | oops wrong one |
| 14:35.51 | pcj | :P |
| 14:37.46 | TOR_CNR | ... |
| 14:37.49 | TOR_CNR | :) |
| 14:39.42 | pcj | or maybe just 1 or 2 |
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| 14:42.10 | Kirkburn | Um |
| 14:42.19 | Kirkburn | So I like just added some server requests |
| 14:42.40 | Kirkburn | And I really really didn't just see the above conversation >< |
| 14:44.22 | *** join/#wowwiki Gryphen (n=gryphon@71.216.187.10) |
| 14:44.22 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+o Gryphen] by ChanServ |
| 14:44.36 | Kirkburn | pcj, lol, at least it wasn't just me |
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| 14:44.50 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+v Foxbot] by ChanServ |
| 14:45.07 | foxlit | !sup |
| 14:45.50 | pcj | heh |
| 14:45.53 | pcj | #sup |
| 14:46.08 | TOR_CNR | Kirkburn: at least that's easy stuff :) I prefere that to chasing ghost like "well, this message just randomly pops up in different languages all over the place... fix it" :P |
| 14:46.08 | pcj | i guess foxbot just doesn't want to talk to me |
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| 14:46.10 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+v Foxbot] by ChanServ |
| 14:46.17 | foxlit | !sup |
| 14:46.17 | Foxbot | There are currently 0 queued operations. |
| 14:46.26 | foxlit | Foxbot, sup |
| 14:46.33 | pcj | #sup |
| 14:46.35 | Kirkburn | TOR_CNR, so I should be looking for more difficult stuff? Sure thing :) |
| 14:46.54 | foxlit | Foxbot,sup |
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| 14:47.49 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+v Foxbot] by ChanServ |
| 14:47.52 | pcj | #sup |
| 14:47.55 | [NewsBot] | MMO Champion: Zul'aman first loots informations, more mounts. - http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=458.0 |
| 14:47.57 | foxlit | !sup |
| 14:47.57 | Foxbot | There are currently 0 queued operations. |
| 14:48.00 | foxlit | Foxbot, sup |
| 14:48.38 | Gryphen | underlined links -.- |
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| 14:49.55 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+v Foxbot] by ChanServ |
| 14:50.17 | foxlit | There |
| 14:50.18 | foxlit | !sup |
| 14:50.18 | Foxbot | There are currently 0 queued operations. |
| 14:50.20 | foxlit | Foxbot, sup |
| 14:50.20 | Foxbot | There are currently 0 queued operations. |
| 14:50.38 | Kirkburn | :D http://www.reallifecomics.com/index.xml |
| 14:50.47 | Kirkburn | ^ solving an important puzzle |
| 14:57.24 | Fisker- | What does Kirkburn say about his powerlevel? |
| 14:57.44 | Kirkburn | You speak in riddles :/ |
| 14:58.38 | Fisker- | no u |
| 15:01.15 | Kirkburn | Wow, that js code of pcj's is cool |
| 15:01.38 | Kirkburn | Replaces the Google search with the proper wiki search |
| 15:01.48 | Fisker- | oh u? |
| 15:04.16 | Fisker- | do want? |
| 15:06.26 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/07/12/know-your-lore-special-the-top-ten-lore-quests-part-1/ |
| 15:07.06 | Kirkburn | Fisker-, you're strange, you are |
| 15:07.26 | [NewsBot] | GamePolitics: http://gamepolitics.com/2007/07/12/live-blogging-take-two/ |
| 15:08.06 | *** join/#wowwiki pcj (n=pcjjenks@pdpc/supporter/active/pcj) |
| 15:09.50 | pcj | #doitem Champion's Satin Mantle |
| 15:09.54 | Gryphen | ! |
| 15:10.18 | pcj | #sup |
| 15:10.19 | Gryphen | !doitem Champion's Satin Mantle |
| 15:10.33 | pcj | foxbot, doitem Champion's Satin Mantle |
| 15:11.17 | pcj | foxbot help |
| 15:12.42 | pcj | foxbot item Champion's Satin Mantle |
| 15:12.43 | Foxbot | Page generator crashed for [Champion's Satin Mantle]. |
| 15:12.51 | *** join/#wowwiki Kaso (n=Kaso@host86-136-160-212.range86-136.btcentralplus.com) |
| 15:12.51 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+v Kaso] by ChanServ |
| 15:12.52 | Kirkburn | Now I made my own CSS to remove the boxes for the sidebar. Yay for cutomization! |
| 15:13.02 | pcj | foxbot item 23262 |
| 15:13.03 | Foxbot | Page generator crashed for [23262]. |
| 15:13.09 | Hobinheim|work | oo user css |
| 15:13.15 | Hobinheim|work | so i can just get rid of teh uglies |
| 15:13.18 | pcj | kirk, you can also hide the ads using CSS/JS |
| 15:13.27 | Hobinheim|work | omg |
| 15:13.31 | Hobinheim|work | we can finally do all those crazy |
| 15:13.35 | Hobinheim|work | exist things that we were arguing about |
| 15:13.40 | Hobinheim|work | is that even still relevant now? |
| 15:13.51 | Kirkburn | They're hidden via IE7Pro atm, but cool nonetheless |
| 15:14.07 | Kirkburn | We have parser functions, but they could be |
| 15:14.20 | pcj | #item Champion's Leather Helm |
| 15:14.25 | pcj | !item Champion's Leather Helm |
| 15:14.26 | Foxbot | Page generator crashed for [Champion's Leather Helm]. |
| 15:14.26 | ThraeBot | pcj: Name: Champion's Leather Helm; Rarity: Blue; BoP; Unique; Head; +23 Stamina; +238 Armour; Requires L60; 60 Durability; Classes: Rogue Equip: Increases your critical strike rating by 14.; Equip: Increases your hit rating by 10.; Equip: Increases attack power by 36.; Champion's Guard Set; Set Items: Blood Guard's Leather Grips Blood Guard's Leather Walkers Legionnaire's Leather Chestpiece Legionnaire's Leather Legguards Champion |
| 15:14.26 | ThraeBot | pcj: (continued);; Set Bonus for 2: Increases attack power by 40.;; Set Bonus for 4: Reduces the cooldown of your Gouge ability by 1 sec.;; Set Bonus for 6: +20 Stamina.; Get: PvP Reward. [[ http://www.wowhead.com/?item=23257 ]] |
| 15:14.33 | pcj | . |
| 15:14.42 | Gryphen | :/ |
| 15:14.51 | Kirkburn | How do you comment in js? |
| 15:14.56 | pcj | use // |
| 15:15.01 | pcj | or /* for multi-line |
| 15:15.13 | pcj | /* */ that is |
| 15:15.16 | Kirkburn | yarr |
| 15:15.31 | winkiller | /o/ |
| 15:15.34 | winkiller | \o/ |
| 15:15.37 | winkiller | \o\ |
| 15:17.05 | pcj | god why is everyone using my code |
| 15:18.56 | Kirkburn | My screen keeps flashing when browsing WW now :/ |
| 15:19.44 | foxlit | !wigrestart |
| 15:19.44 | Foxbot | Item generator restarted |
| 15:20.01 | pcj | !item Champion's Leather Helm |
| 15:20.01 | ThraeBot | pcj: Name: Champion's Leather Helm; Rarity: Blue; BoP; Unique; Head; +23 Stamina; +238 Armour; Requires L60; 60 Durability; Classes: Rogue Equip: Increases your critical strike rating by 14.; Equip: Increases your hit rating by 10.; Equip: Increases attack power by 36.; Champion's Guard Set; Set Items: Blood Guard's Leather Grips Blood Guard's Leather Walkers Legionnaire's Leather Chestpiece Legionnaire's Leather Legguards Champion |
| 15:20.02 | ThraeBot | pcj: (continued);; Set Bonus for 2: Increases attack power by 40.;; Set Bonus for 4: Reduces the cooldown of your Gouge ability by 1 sec.;; Set Bonus for 6: +20 Stamina.; Get: PvP Reward. [[ http://www.wowhead.com/?item=23257 ]] |
| 15:20.09 | Foxbot | Tooltip saved, pcj, view at http://www.wowwiki.com/Champion's_Leather_Helm |
| 15:20.16 | pcj | nooo |
| 15:20.26 | pcj | what is doitem now |
| 15:20.36 | foxlit | item [sandbox] Item list |
| 15:20.44 | pcj | *sigh* |
| 15:23.18 | Kirkburn | Um, do we want ThraeBot? |
| 15:23.29 | Gryphen | no |
| 15:23.49 | pcj | no |
| 15:24.27 | foxlit | I think there's a !mute |
| 15:25.17 | pcj | foxbot, item [sandbox] scourge data, rubidium hammer |
| 15:25.21 | Foxbot | Okay, pcj, queued [sandbox] scourge data, rubidium hammer. |
| 15:25.33 | foxlit | Hm |
| 15:26.01 | pcj | <Foxbot> Could not resolve item id for [[sandbox] scourge data]; try supplying one manually. |
| 15:26.02 | foxlit | Well, it works |
| 15:27.30 | foxlit | Why not item directly, anyway? |
| 15:27.40 | pcj | because it replaces content |
| 15:27.51 | foxlit | There isn't really that much useful content on those pages anyway |
| 15:28.03 | Gryphen | it is useful to sandbox |
| 15:28.10 | pcj | On some of them there is |
| 15:28.21 | Kirkburn | Thrae, ping or I kick the bot AGAIN |
| 15:28.22 | Gryphen | i have replaced many tooltips within articles which contain a lot of useful info |
| 15:29.17 | Kirkburn | !mute ThraeBot |
| 15:29.21 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 15:29.33 | Kirkburn | Um, how do I mute? |
| 15:29.42 | pcj | moderate the channel |
| 15:29.45 | pcj | set -v Thraebot |
| 15:29.49 | pcj | +v everyone who can speak |
| 15:30.02 | Gryphen | lol |
| 15:30.04 | Kirkburn | >_> |
| 15:30.08 | foxlit | There should be a general !mute in that code somewhere :) |
| 15:30.08 | Gryphen | /ignore |
| 15:30.37 | pcj | !help thraebot |
| 15:30.39 | *** mode/#wowwiki [-b *!*@213.167.96.196] by Gryphen |
| 15:30.48 | pcj | yah you could ban thraebot too |
| 15:30.48 | Kirkburn | Gryphen, what weirdness were you seeing btw? |
| 15:30.56 | Gryphen | with? |
| 15:31.03 | Kirkburn | the .js pages |
| 15:31.12 | foxlit | !help |
| 15:31.13 | ThraeBot | Commands: !fchar <see !char> -- Shows briefer stats (ala FoxBot); !char <eu/us> <server> <character> -- Shows player info from Armory; !last <eu/us> <server> <character> -- Last login via Armory; !guild <eu/us> <server>, <guild> -- Armory guild info; !api <function name> -- Displays brief WoW API function info (from WoWWiki.com); !t <url> -- Tinifies a URL; !item <item name or id> -- Displays item info from Armory; /msg accepted |
| 15:31.28 | pcj | !help mute |
| 15:31.47 | pcj | !t google.com |
| 15:31.49 | Gryphen | Kirkburn it didnt have the refresh safari, blah blah and the codebox thing yours had |
| 15:31.49 | ThraeBot | pcj: http://tinyurl.com/2tx |
| 15:31.53 | pcj | ah |
| 15:32.23 | Kirkburn | Aha, see I had the opposite |
| 15:32.30 | Kirkburn | Mine didn't have the box, but yours did |
| 15:32.37 | pcj | kek |
| 15:32.46 | Gryphen | a smarter bot would have told you that the tinyurl would have been longer than the original |
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| 15:33.21 | Gryphen | that is odd Kirkburn heh |
| 15:33.47 | pcj | i don't see any problems with the JS page |
| 15:34.10 | Kirkburn | When you look at your own, it shows the browser info box thing above? |
| 15:34.19 | pcj | No, but it still works |
| 15:34.30 | Kirkburn | And if you look at ours? |
| 15:34.36 | pcj | Yep |
| 15:35.00 | Kirkburn | It might work, but it's still weird |
| 15:35.22 | Kirkburn | Anyway, my left bar is now boxless - yay |
| 15:36.26 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/07/12/three-new-loot-cards-for-the-wow-tcg/ |
| 15:37.02 | pcj | foxlit: http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=WoWWiki:Sandbox/1&oldid=746363 vs http://www.wowwiki.com/Scourge_Data for example |
| 15:38.46 | pcj | hmm |
| 15:39.05 | pcj | it makes the disambigpage=WoWWiki:Sandbox/1 |
| 15:39.28 | *** join/#wowwiki dok3Dal (n=dok@AStrasbourg-251-1-107-148.w90-26.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 15:39.40 | pcj | and lost the float={{#if:...}} statement |
| 15:40.18 | Gryphen | should do WoWWiki:Sandbox/Foxbot |
| 15:41.22 | foxlit | Yeah, more geared towards preview. |
| 15:41.43 | *** join/#wowwiki dok3Dal (n=dok@AStrasbourg-251-1-107-148.w90-26.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 15:42.47 | pcj | who cares about preview |
| 15:44.08 | foxlit | I do. |
| 15:44.52 | Gryphen | i think it is ok, the bot is doing all the work for you, removing a line doesnt hurt |
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| 15:48.51 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+v ClydeJr] by ChanServ |
| 15:50.59 | pcj | foxbot, item [sandbox] lord general's sword |
| 15:51.04 | Foxbot | Tooltip saved, pcj, view at http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Sandbox/1 |
| 16:03.55 | pcj | you changed it and got the name of the sandbox wrong :P |
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| 16:05.35 | ClydeJr | Foxbot's item page creation function get removed? |
| 16:05.59 | Gryphen | trigger changed |
| 16:06.23 | pcj | foxbot, item [sandbox] royal decorated armor |
| 16:06.25 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/07/12/wow-moviewatch-how-the-spammers-did-it/ |
| 16:06.28 | Foxbot | Tooltip saved, pcj, view at http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Sandbox/1 |
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| 16:07.40 | ClydeJr | what's the new syntax to create a page (not just update the sandbox)? |
| 16:07.52 | Gryphen | item name |
| 16:07.59 | pcj | no [sandbox] |
| 16:08.29 | ClydeJr | foxbot, item Wyvern Cage Key |
| 16:09.31 | ClydeJr | hmm.. so no confirmation message back? |
| 16:09.43 | pcj | it's laggy |
| 16:09.53 | foxlit | foxbot, item Wyvern Cage Key |
| 16:09.56 | pcj | !sup |
| 16:10.01 | Foxbot | Tooltip saved, ClydeJr, view at http://www.wowwiki.com/Wyvern_Cage_Key |
| 16:10.12 | Foxbot | Tooltip saved, foxlit, view at http://www.wowwiki.com/Wyvern_Cage_Key |
| 16:10.12 | Foxbot | There are currently 0 queued operations. |
| 16:10.46 | ClydeJr | thanks for the help, Gryph, pcj |
| 16:11.07 | pcj | np |
| 16:11.25 | foxlit | #item Sorcerer's Belt, Sorcerer's Mantle, Sorcerer's Gloves, Sorcerer's Bindings, Sorcerer's Robes, Sorcerer's Leggings, Sorcerer's Boots |
| 16:11.29 | foxlit | !item Sorcerer's Belt, Sorcerer's Mantle, Sorcerer's Gloves, Sorcerer's Bindings, Sorcerer's Robes, Sorcerer's Leggings, Sorcerer's Boots |
| 16:11.29 | Foxbot | Okay, foxlit, queued Sorcerer's Belt, Sorcerer's Mantle, Sorcerer's Gloves, Sorcerer's Bindings, Sorcerer's Robes, Sorcerer's Leggings, Sorcerer's Boots. |
| 16:11.30 | ThraeBot | foxlit: that is not the item you're looking for! |
| 16:11.55 | pcj | kek |
| 16:12.14 | pcj | foxbot, item [sandbox] Gordok Courtyard Key |
| 16:12.16 | Foxbot | Could not resolve item id for [Gordok Courtyard Key]; try supplying one manually. |
| 16:12.19 | pcj | foxbot, item [sandbox] 18266 |
| 16:12.20 | Foxbot | Unable to fetch item data for [18266]: are both armories up? |
| 16:13.59 | ClydeJr | whew, done with that big quest chain |
| 16:14.01 | foxlit | There is no spoon. |
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| 16:16.08 | foxlit | Pcj: you could also update the item page syou do to follow the boilerplate more closely :) |
| 16:16.28 | pcj | i'm just replacing {{if}} |
| 16:17.01 | foxlit | There are easier ways to replace {{if}} :) |
| 16:18.10 | pcj | And updating the tooltip |
| 16:18.40 | foxlit | Then fix the boilerplate compliance while you're at it :) |
| 16:18.59 | pcj | No |
| 16:19.04 | pcj | You do it if it's so important |
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| 16:25.05 | foxlit | Would have to, afterwards. |
| 16:25.20 | foxlit | It's silly, though -- how much effort is it to remove a left-aligned image anyway? :) |
| 16:25.42 | pcj | Is that it? Shouldn't be a problem then |
| 16:26.26 | foxlit | Could also {{gallery}} the screenshots, but that can take ~10s |
| 16:36.26 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/07/12/building-a-better-damagemeter/ |
| 16:38.21 | Fisker- | MY TIME COME |
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| 16:46.26 | Kirkburn | That article says "players have generally agreed that tracking your healing or damage output is a fairly good way to determine your skill as a player" >_> |
| 16:46.47 | Kirkburn | Yay, I can overheal/pull aggro! Yay! |
| 16:46.52 | Kirkburn | I r teh skillzor |
| 16:47.17 | pcj | kek |
| 16:49.46 | foxlit | Tbh, it's rather dubious in situations where it matters |
| 16:49.52 | foxlit | Take voidreaver's aggroreduction |
| 16:50.16 | foxlit | You're pretty much in the hands of the tanks, since who knows what _their_ threat is? :) |
| 16:50.44 | *** join/#wowwiki TOR_CNR (n=TOR@wikipedia/TOR) |
| 16:51.23 | TOR_CNR | Kirkburn: bad news. can't set e-mail confirmation requirement to just a subset of the users. It's either on or it's off. |
| 16:51.44 | Kirkburn | Then I guess it's off :O |
| 16:52.13 | TOR_CNR | roger |
| 16:52.24 | Gryphen | :/ |
| 16:54.57 | TOR_CNR | let me know if the spam count goes up significantly. I have one more anti-smap tool at hand that I can give you :) |
| 16:55.13 | Kirkburn | See Gryphen, it'll be okay :) |
| 16:55.49 | Kirkburn | TOR_CNR, tell me when I can test! |
| 16:57.13 | TOR_CNR | Kirkburn: will do. this needs one more extention installed to work properly, and I don't want to throw in stuff that can potentially break if I'm not sure I'll be here to watch over you guys ;) |
| 16:57.25 | TOR_CNR | Kirkburn: so... Monday probably. |
| 16:57.33 | Kirkburn | okies |
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| 16:59.06 | sannse | we have anti-smap tools? cool! ;) |
| 17:00.04 | Kirkburn | SMAP is a Japanese "idol" group, formed by Johnny & Associates ... so damn right! |
| 17:00.15 | sannse | heh |
| 17:00.58 | Gryphen | ~smap |
| 17:00.58 | infobot | it has been said that smap is a Japanese "idol" group, formed by Johnny & Associates |
| 17:01.55 | TOR_CNR | sannse: AntiSpamInput ;) |
| 17:02.39 | sannse | TOR: you mean AntiSmapInput? much more important |
| 17:04.24 | TOR_CNR | sannse: I believe we can do regex and the other stuff too ;) don't know what type of spam is present on wowwiki |
| 17:04.43 | Kirkburn | None atm, due to the emaily stuff :P |
| 17:04.54 | TOR_CNR | if it's automated idiot scripts, ASI will catch all of it |
| 17:05.08 | TOR_CNR | (should, anyway :P) |
| 17:05.34 | Kirkburn | We did have automated stuff, yeah |
| 17:08.33 | Gryphen | ya, see April's block log |
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| 17:11.26 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/07/12/guilds-may-come-and-go-but-friendships-are-forever/ |
| 17:12.48 | Kirkburn | Wait, I'm confused |
| 17:13.20 | pcj | What's new? |
| 17:13.31 | Kirkburn | TOR_CNR, we're you saying that you don't have to register to edit now, but wait until Monday for the anti-spam thing? |
| 17:13.37 | Kirkburn | *were |
| 17:13.59 | Thrae | I publically apologize for the problems with ThraeBot. I partly blame foxlit. |
| 17:14.04 | Gryphen | http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Contributions/71.54.90.14 |
| 17:14.14 | Kirkburn | I'm testing that atm :P |
| 17:14.19 | foxlit | Shared triggers are evil! |
| 17:14.25 | Kirkburn | Captcha worked when I tried http://www.mooooooo.com |
| 17:14.25 | foxlit | Wasn't there a !mute, though? |
| 17:14.30 | Hobinheim|work | how come we're allowing anonymous edits now? |
| 17:14.42 | Hobinheim|work | not that i'm opposed to it, just curious |
| 17:15.20 | Gryphen | im not a fan of unregged edits |
| 17:15.26 | Thrae | foxlit: That's because you merged ThraeBot's code, didn't you? You used to use #, not ! ;) |
| 17:15.36 | foxlit | No, I didn't :) |
| 17:15.54 | Thrae | Well you -did- change the starting trigger character though, you sneaky bastard |
| 17:16.01 | foxlit | But I did change the trigger mechanism |
| 17:16.19 | foxlit | I also changed the trigger text, so I suppose that's me being evil twice |
| 17:16.26 | foxlit | Didn't know you had !item, though :) |
| 17:16.37 | Thrae | foxlit: I showed you !item |
| 17:16.43 | TOR_CNR | Kirkburn: actually, I can make a first test right now :) if anything bad happens, we can have email conf back on. |
| 17:16.44 | pcj | He's just trying to throw everyone off who uses his bot |
| 17:17.02 | foxlit | Hm, good point. |
| 17:17.03 | Gryphen | how is all that ThraeBot item glob of info useful |
| 17:17.05 | foxlit | Slipped my mind, that. |
| 17:17.47 | foxlit | ThraeBot, item Pattern: Golden Spellthread |
| 17:17.49 | ThraeBot | foxlit: Name: Pattern: Golden Spellthread; Rarity: White; BoP; Use: Teaches you how to create Golden Spellthread.; Creates: << Name: Golden Spellthread; Rarity: Purple; 20 Stack; Consumable; Requires L60; Use: Permanently embroiders spellthread into pants, increasing healing by up to 66 and Stamina by 20.; Get: Created. >>. |
| 17:17.49 | ThraeBot | foxlit: (continued); Get: Faction Reward. [[ http://www.wowhead.com/?item=24295 ]] |
| 17:18.10 | foxlit | Hey, not bad :) |
| 17:18.11 | Thrae | I thought you banned ThraeBot >.> |
| 17:18.13 | pcj | !item Guild Tabard |
| 17:18.14 | ThraeBot | pcj: Name: Guild Tabard; Rarity: White; Get: Vendor. [[ http://www.wowhead.com/?item=5976 ]] |
| 17:18.17 | Foxbot | Tooltip saved, pcj, view at http://www.wowwiki.com/Guild_Tabard |
| 17:18.31 | Thrae | Gryphen: Depends on your intent |
| 17:18.41 | *** part/#wowwiki ThraeBot (i=generalm@c-68-49-121-90.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 17:18.56 | Thrae | The evil ThraeBot has left to avoid FoxBot conflicts |
| 17:19.01 | Gryphen | what is it intended for? |
| 17:19.59 | pcj | spam |
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| 17:21.07 | Thrae | Gryphen: An info bot, right now. It gets various information from wowwiki and armoury when requested, such as !api, !item, !char, etc. It's still in the works, based off of parts of FoxBot and KasoBot. |
| 17:21.23 | Thrae | Gryphen: Though I find the !t command to be most useful for myself. |
| 17:21.43 | Thrae | !char us maelstrom thrae |
| 17:21.45 | Foxbot | Thrae: Thrae, Level 59 Druid (1/41/8). 4043 HP; 2899 Mana; 193 Str; 233 Agi; 19.62% dodge. |
| 17:22.01 | pcj | !t google.com works quite well |
| 17:22.22 | Thrae | zeeg: For quests I believe -- the quests are put on WoWWiki, and they'd like item links to go along with them |
| 17:22.53 | zeeg | why not just link offsite |
| 17:22.55 | Thrae | zeeg: It's usually not nice for one site to link another site, and even if they did, it's better controlled on the main site -- just in case the other site is down, disappears, etc. |
| 17:22.55 | Gryphen | relying on offsite data is lame |
| 17:22.57 | zeeg | it just doesn't make sense |
| 17:23.15 | zeeg | ya but relying on manually entering thousands of items is lame :) |
| 17:23.29 | zeeg | even if a bot downloads/saves the data for you.. its still ugh |
| 17:23.59 | zeeg | if you guys gave me the code it would need to output in the wiki I could probably make a feed |
| 17:24.26 | zeeg | but its still a horrible solution -- needs a plugin to store/refresh data |
| 17:24.45 | Kirkburn | Well obviously we've never thought of that >_> |
| 17:24.48 | Thrae | Gryphen: As you can see with !char, Foxbot has some "epeen" commands too ;) |
| 17:25.04 | foxlit | Tbh, testing modules :) |
| 17:25.14 | Thrae | foxlit: As was I! |
| 17:25.26 | Kirkburn | zeeg, we've only just got quite basic extensions added - you surely know what situation the wiki was in for a looong time |
| 17:25.41 | foxlit | !mlist |
| 17:25.41 | Foxbot | Modules: [witem], (ircinfo), [armorystats], [api]. Legend: (unloaded), [active]. |
| 17:25.49 | foxlit | !munload armorystats, api |
| 17:25.50 | Foxbot | Unloaded no modules |
| 17:25.55 | Gryphen | not to mention, externally linking still sucks |
| 17:26.00 | foxlit | Need to fix that last part |
| 17:26.00 | zeeg | Kirkburn, remind me when we finish building the new site ;) |
| 17:26.16 | zeeg | but if you give me the wiki format for data |
| 17:26.18 | Thrae | Kirkburn: Thinking about it now, having the data locally is good, but linking to off-site is good when the quests change. |
| 17:26.23 | zeeg | i can make a feed to output a copy/paste of what goes on the page |
| 17:26.43 | zeeg | then it'd just be a matter of storing that data in a backend, and using a plugin to import it/refresh as needed |
| 17:26.56 | Thrae | Yeah, or just do a diff. |
| 17:27.22 | Thrae | foxlit: Does my item parser beat your item parser yet? :D |
| 17:27.26 | [NewsBot] | GamePolitics: http://gamepolitics.com/2007/07/12/esrb-begs-to-differ-with-nimf-summit-recommendations/ |
| 17:27.58 | Kirkburn | Btw, notice how many unregistered edits were getting already |
| 17:28.03 | Thrae | And let's not forget [NewsBot], heh |
| 17:28.35 | Gryphen | unregged edits suck |
| 17:28.36 | Gryphen | heh |
| 17:28.46 | Gryphen | ill keep saying it :) |
| 17:28.47 | Kirkburn | They look pretty good so far |
| 17:28.53 | Kirkburn | Shush, you |
| 17:29.16 | Kirkburn | Think that many of these people may not have bothered with editing previously |
| 17:29.30 | *** join/#wowwiki Kolky (n=kolky@cp1168937-a.tilbu1.nb.home.nl) |
| 17:29.50 | Gryphen | sounds great that they arent interested in the wiki enough to join |
| 17:30.08 | *** join/#wowwiki Lysistrata (n=yousuck@xdsl-84-44-196-64.netcologne.de) |
| 17:30.12 | Kirkburn | Y'know this is the principle of most wikis in the world :P |
| 17:30.26 | Thrae | Kirkburn: Allowing guest edits? |
| 17:30.32 | Kirkburn | To help out shouldn't need to be a time investment |
| 17:30.47 | Kirkburn | Anyway, it's a trial - if it gets too much it can easily be reverted or altered |
| 17:31.10 | *** topic/#wowwiki by Kirkburn -> Channel info: tinyurl.com/36u82j | RC list: tinyurl.com/2oawam | UI questions? Join #wowi-lounge | Nominate a Featured Article today - WW:FA | Wikia spotlight: http://warhammeronline.wikia.com/ | Ladies and gentlemen, we have CSS. Meanwhile, Prefs --> Misc --> Underline links. Oh, and you don't need to register to edit! |
| 17:31.13 | Thrae | Kirkburn: Well you probably limit by IP, right? That'd be a good idea if not -- limit to X amount per day or per hour. Don't want the entire wiki changed by some randomIP. |
| 17:31.38 | Kirkburn | Some goes for an account though, surely |
| 17:31.41 | Kirkburn | *same |
| 17:32.49 | Dotted | [Thrae]: And let's not forget [NewsBot], heh <- wewt? |
| 17:33.01 | Thrae | Dotted: We were talking about bot spam ;) |
| 17:33.09 | Fisker- | oh hi Dotted |
| 17:33.23 | Dotted | Fisker- #newz.dk nu |
| 17:33.33 | Fisker- | nej |
| 17:33.36 | Dotted | jo |
| 17:33.39 | Thrae | Dotted: By the way, did you code [NewsBot]? Is it in Lua? |
| 17:33.40 | Fisker- | newz.dk sucks |
| 17:33.51 | Dotted | Thrae yes partly, no |
| 17:34.01 | Dotted | Fisker- du failer maks |
| 17:34.06 | TOR_CNR | ATTN: enabling new extension. keep an eye out for errors. |
| 17:34.09 | Fisker- | næppe |
| 17:34.29 | Thrae | OK, any name with TOR in it makes me nervous |
| 17:34.37 | Fisker- | why? |
| 17:34.50 | Thrae | Fisker-: Ever hear of the TOR anonimizer service? |
| 17:35.03 | TOR_CNR | Thrae: I got the name first, you know... |
| 17:35.10 | Fisker- | not "TOR" |
| 17:35.23 | Dotted | i thought that was Technician Optimized for Repair |
| 17:35.24 | Thrae | Fisker-: I had to put a bot in some channels to avoid ban evasions ^^; |
| 17:35.36 | Kirkburn | What extension? |
| 17:35.37 | TOR_CNR | Dotted: :) |
| 17:35.50 | TOR_CNR | Kirkburn: antispam stuff :P |
| 17:36.03 | Kirkburn | Dammit, I almost got to the Version page before you said that |
| 17:36.08 | Thrae | TOR_CNR: Really? tor's been around for a while...you old fart you. Did you start out on IRC in 1400 baud as well? :D |
| 17:36.18 | Fisker- | So basically it establish a big network link through several proxies or what_ |
| 17:36.20 | Fisker- | ? |
| 17:37.25 | Thrae | Fisker-: Right. Privoxy handles setting up the proxy on your computer. tor has many very legitimate and extremely important uses, like in Russia where journalists are being killed, as well as their sources. |
| 17:37.47 | Fisker- | nice |
| 17:37.47 | deltron | I used to IRC through BBS' back in the day |
| 17:37.48 | Dotted | Fisker- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tor_%28anonymity_network%29 fail alittle less plz |
| 17:37.59 | Fisker- | They gotta start up a ruchan.ru then |
| 17:38.05 | foxlit | Thrae: crypto import laws |
| 17:38.06 | Fisker- | or 4chan.ru |
| 17:38.28 | Gryphen | TOR_CNR is there a limit on the ammount of parserfunctions you can use in an article? |
| 17:38.30 | Thrae | foxlit: Eh? I thought tor was coded in Eastren Europe. |
| 17:38.45 | foxlit | Doesn't mean it's legal to use. |
| 17:38.53 | Thrae | Fisker-: Anyway, tor is also heavily used by the CP market unfortunately. |
| 17:39.31 | Thrae | foxlit: I don't understand the whole crypto thing anyway. Why restrict the cryptography? Make it harder for the US to decrypt anti-US communications? |
| 17:39.40 | Fisker- | moar |
| 17:40.07 | foxlit | Unrestricted cryptography makes law enforcement significantly more difficult. |
| 17:40.46 | Fisker- | i post all my CP on my usual ip |
| 17:41.02 | Thrae | foxlit: Once again, it's like the old addage -- if you ban guns, then only criminals will have guns. The criminals who really need cryptography will have it regardless. The stupid criminals who can't get it outside of places like tor aren't going to be that much more difficult to find, since they're stupid. |
| 17:41.17 | Gryphen | this is wowwiki |
| 17:41.19 | TOR_CNR | Gryphen: can't remember one |
| 17:41.26 | Gryphen | TOR_CNR see, http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=User:DarkRyder/APB_Table&oldid=746625 |
| 17:41.32 | Kirkburn | No it's not, it's Sparta |
| 17:41.36 | Fisker- | and if you ban CP only criminals will have CP :( |
| 17:41.54 | Gryphen | TOR_CNR, this user is creating templates to list WoW players, but it seems he hit a limit. |
| 17:43.01 | TOR_CNR | ugh |
| 17:43.02 | Thrae | Fisker-: Well, there's a difference between unrestricted freedoms and unrestricted freedoms which encroach on the freedoms of others ;) |
| 17:43.36 | Fisker- | everyone says that until they see CP |
| 17:43.46 | Thrae | Fisker-: Basically, you have to look at the hedonist side of things -- who gets hurt more, the pedophiles or the children? All studies show, it's definately the children. Hence CP -should- be banned. |
| 17:44.09 | Kirkburn | If you ban guns, you're probably in the UK |
| 17:45.02 | Kirkburn | Someone was trying to convince me recently that we had similar levels of gun crime to the US >< |
| 17:45.21 | Fisker- | lol? |
| 17:45.36 | Thrae | Kirkburn: Lemme check |
| 17:45.42 | Fisker- | CP never hurt anybody |
| 17:45.53 | Thrae | Fisker-: Uh, what about the children -in- the CP? |
| 17:46.06 | Fisker- | http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1184259738890.jpg |
| 17:46.19 | Fisker- | you'll see just how lame i was in just a moment |
| 17:46.39 | Kirkburn | awesome |
| 17:47.26 | Fisker- | http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/2432/cpcpcpcplc3.jpg |
| 17:50.59 | laurly | hey Gryphen grate idea with the ! and ? |
| 17:51.16 | Gryphen | :) |
| 17:51.53 | Thrae | Kirkburn: According to nationmaster.com, the UK has, for Murders with firearms per capita, 0.00102579 per 1,000 people (20th out of 32). US is 0.0279271 per 1,000 people (8th out of 32). So whoever told you the statistics were "similiar" is full of crap :D |
| 17:51.54 | laurly | had an idea putting the herbing and skinning icons on those tables as well. |
| 17:52.19 | laurly | oh and i added a third column to the quest page for mobs that are objects of quests |
| 17:52.24 | Gryphen | /join #gunclub |
| 17:52.33 | Fisker- | Thrae weren't i lame? :( |
| 17:52.35 | Kirkburn | lol, that's 20 times more |
| 17:52.37 | Thrae | Kirkburn: Per capita takes into account the large discrepency in population, of course |
| 17:52.58 | Kirkburn | Yes, I think we have more than 1,000 people over here ^^ |
| 17:53.30 | Thrae | Kirkburn: However, one -could- argue that the US has such vast diversity compared to the UK, we have a greater chance of more violent criminals along with a greater chance of more amazing people ;) |
| 17:54.24 | Fisker- | as well as bad social services |
| 17:54.24 | pcj | And less muslim terrorist incidents to date |
| 17:54.45 | Fisker- | and of course the medias |
| 17:55.00 | Thrae | Anyway, I'm in favour of requiring proper firearms education before purchasing a gun -- I don't think they should be banned, I think that's stupid. Making guns a little harder for criminals to obtain and civilians impossible, hurts civilians far, far more then the criminals. |
| 17:56.03 | Kirkburn | And this is why we have such a low gun crime rate? |
| 17:56.22 | Gryphen | blah blah blah |
| 17:56.22 | Kirkburn | Either we're a huge anomaly or that reasoning has faults |
| 17:56.41 | Fisker- | I think the reason is the different societies |
| 17:56.51 | Kirkburn | An arms race, perhaps? |
| 17:56.53 | zeeg | criminals obtain guns easily |
| 17:57.08 | Gryphen | wonder what is registering the blank bullet at the end of the subcategories http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:WoWWiki |
| 17:57.10 | zeeg | itd just make the people who wont shoot people go through a more difficult process :P |
| 17:57.27 | Thrae | Just like w/ drugs -- if we took all the money the US spends on the "War Against Drugs", and all the money on we spend on Anti-Drug campaigns, I think there's a greater chance of -less- drug abusers then -more-, and it would also reduce the crime rate dramatically. |
| 17:57.29 | Gryphen | /ignore guntalk |
| 17:57.33 | Kirkburn | Gryphen, http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:%C2%A0 |
| 17:57.38 | Fisker- | I just think that some countries are better for gun control and some are not |
| 17:58.14 | Fisker- | Thrae yeah obviously, legalising something means lesser crimes since they're not a crime anymore :D |
| 17:58.48 | Thrae | Kirkburn: I disagree gun control is the only variable, or even the only important variable, in the gun deaths per country. Like Fisker- said, there is a huge difference in culture, society, and population between the US and UK. |
| 17:58.54 | Kirkburn | Gryphen, your fears - http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/03/19 (Antiarc found that) |
| 17:58.59 | Thrae | Fisker-: Smartass :D You know I mean stuff like violent crimes. |
| 17:59.07 | Kirkburn | I never said it was the only thing :( |
| 17:59.09 | Fisker- | of course :P |
| 17:59.12 | laurly | is there an icon for the little sward that comes on your mouse when you attack a mob |
| 17:59.29 | Fisker- | ah Kirkburn don't bring me up again |
| 17:59.32 | Fisker- | SHITCOCK |
| 17:59.44 | Fisker- | must say i'm not a normal person |
| 17:59.48 | Fisker- | i wonder what that adds up to |
| 18:00.49 | Thrae | Kirkburn: Right, but I'm saying there's no credible studies that show banning guns reduces murder by firearms (manslaughter is not murder). |
| 18:01.21 | Thrae | Gryphen: I thought this was a channel for the #wowwiki community :( |
| 18:01.49 | Gryphen | i suppose it could be, but it is a lame debate |
| 18:01.58 | Fisker- | I think the biggest causes are media and lack of gun-related education |
| 18:02.28 | Fisker- | I remember some discussion we had a while ago, about crimes and how much crimes had gone up lately |
| 18:02.28 | Thrae | Gryphen: A lame debate is one of preferences -- I think there is a huge amount to be said about gun control and how to properly deter gun violence. |
| 18:02.48 | Gryphen | you will solve it here? |
| 18:02.58 | Fisker- | Then some court-guy said that actually crimerates were not raising significantly higher, but the media coverage of said crimes were |
| 18:03.10 | Thrae | Fisker-: I disagree that media can cause increased gun violence, only misrepresent the facts |
| 18:04.01 | Fisker- | well the effects are probably small |
| 18:04.22 | Fisker- | but the reports to incite fear in some people |
| 18:04.26 | Thrae | Gryphen: Perhaps, one day, as more people come to an agreement. It starts one person at a time. Or perhaps their children will as they get enlightened by their parents, who in turn got enlightened from these IRC discussions. Or the children's children. Also, it's fun to have -real- debates, IE. not arguments. |
| 18:05.06 | pcj | ugh </guntalk> |
| 18:05.16 | Fisker- | :P |
| 18:05.26 | Thrae | Fisker-'s grandchild could become President of the United States! After his child moves to the United States with the fall of Denmark to the Polish in 2072. |
| 18:06.26 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/07/12/brush-up-on-your-etiquette-for-blizzcon/ |
| 18:08.24 | Fisker- | nice |
| 18:08.35 | Fisker- | then i can live with my people :P |
| 18:08.43 | Fisker- | 1/8th polish or something like that |
| 18:09.21 | Fisker- | oddly enough we have no relatives living in poland anymore *cough* holocaust *cough* |
| 18:17.26 | Fisker- | excuse me Bibi |
| 18:19.28 | laurly | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Laurlybot/Sandbox/npc <--- more icons |
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| 18:25.16 | foxlit | Btw, foxbot will now insert {{settip}} for related sets :) |
| 18:25.55 | pcj | yay |
| 18:27.31 | pcj | kirkburn, how are we handling reporting anonymous users? |
| 18:27.46 | *** join/#wowwiki beerke (n=beerke@5353E179.cable.casema.nl) |
| 18:27.54 | Kirkburn | Same as before |
| 18:28.17 | Kirkburn | (though shorter bans are probably more appropriate) |
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| 18:31.58 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+o Mikk] by ChanServ |
| 18:33.14 | pcj | sloow |
| 18:34.10 | Fisker- | can't you ban an ip and still allow users associated with it to keep logging in? |
| 18:34.17 | Bibi | Fisker- : I excuse you |
| 18:34.25 | TOR_CNR | Fisker-: yes, you can. |
| 18:34.32 | TOR_CNR | there's a checkbox |
| 18:34.42 | Fisker- | sounds like a solution to me :P |
| 18:34.58 | Fisker- | do want spectral tiger Bibi |
| 18:35.15 | Bibi | useless. |
| 18:35.21 | Fisker- | no u |
| 18:35.30 | Bibi | i m useless ? |
| 18:35.30 | Bibi | :( |
| 18:35.32 | Fisker- | yes |
| 18:35.40 | Bibi | but why ? |
| 18:35.45 | Fisker- | i would kill for a cat as a horde |
| 18:35.59 | Fisker- | infact we lost 2 raidleaders on that |
| 18:36.02 | Fisker- | almost 3 |
| 18:36.08 | Kirkburn | Oh yeah, that reminds me - TOR_CNR, when we ban someone, they can't edit /anything/ - whereas I hear on other wikis you can choose ban areas |
| 18:36.13 | Fisker- | 2 times when the mount dropped i wasn't in the group |
| 18:36.20 | Fisker- | and the third time it was our other ZG team |
| 18:36.47 | deltron | it never dropped for my guild |
| 18:36.52 | deltron | raptor dropped twice though |
| 18:36.52 | Bibi | there is a cat in ZG ? |
| 18:36.56 | deltron | yep |
| 18:37.03 | deltron | off of the tiger boss, sec |
| 18:37.03 | Bibi | oh yeah |
| 18:37.05 | deltron | info incoming |
| 18:37.06 | TOR_CNR | Kirkburn: oh rly? haven't looked into that. post it to server_requests, somebody will look into it. |
| 18:37.08 | Bibi | no no, got it |
| 18:37.10 | deltron | ok |
| 18:37.13 | Bibi | i just don't sleep enough |
| 18:37.23 | Kirkburn | Shall do |
| 18:37.30 | laurly | oh bug fixed humanoids are now nolonger skinable :o) |
| 18:37.32 | Bibi | I can't because the website updating takes a lot of time |
| 18:37.34 | Bibi | because i'm running vista |
| 18:37.37 | Bibi | because vista is slow |
| 18:37.41 | deltron | :( |
| 18:38.07 | deltron | are you sure? |
| 18:38.10 | deltron | yes / no |
| 18:38.16 | Fisker- | should almost think that raptor was faction specific deltron :P |
| 18:38.23 | Fisker- | Got 3 cats i can remember and 0 raptors |
| 18:39.23 | pcj | Raptor dropped for me once and I was within 3 dkp of the highest total :( |
| 18:39.39 | Kirkburn | <Fisker-> can't you ban an ip and still allow users associated with it to keep logging in? <--- it defaults to ticked, too |
| 18:40.31 | Fisker- | rawr |
| 18:40.36 | Gryphen | ono i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle. |
| 18:40.49 | Fisker- | pcj infact our first cat would've gone to me |
| 18:40.52 | Fisker- | which i also hated |
| 18:40.56 | Fisker- | I had the highest dkp |
| 18:41.01 | Fisker- | The rules were set so items were dkp |
| 18:41.03 | Bibi | ZA is a very cool looking zone. It will feature brand new troll models -- Forest Trolls. They are very impressive looking. There will also be a large amount of brand new item art in the zone. We'll get screenshots of this out soon. |
| 18:41.07 | Bibi | Yay ! Data minin' ! |
| 18:41.14 | Fisker- | When the item dropped the raidleader said it should be random |
| 18:41.18 | Kaso | <Kirkburn> ...whereas I hear on other wikis you can choose ban areas... (me thinks kirkburn is thinking about patch mirrors) |
| 18:41.24 | Fisker- | *foam around my mouth appeared* |
| 18:41.29 | Kirkburn | Hah |
| 18:41.40 | Kirkburn | Nah, I want to be able to ban people from editing articles only |
| 18:41.52 | Kaso | Ah i getcha |
| 18:43.00 | Mikk | Kirkburn: So they can respond, you mean? |
| 18:43.05 | Kirkburn | indeed |
| 18:43.13 | Mikk | E-mail via talkpage feature ftwin |
| 18:43.29 | Mikk | They don't need to be able to edit every dang user's talk page |
| 18:43.47 | Kirkburn | I dislike being emailed |
| 18:43.53 | Mikk | Heh |
| 18:44.09 | Kirkburn | Besides, it's not very open :) |
| 18:44.16 | Kirkburn | (actually, I'm just crap at dealing with mail) |
| 18:44.39 | Mikk | You're going to suck hard at coping with working anywhere then. L2copewithemail :P |
| 18:44.59 | Kirkburn | Oh, I respond to emails from my bosses obviously |
| 18:45.12 | Kirkburn | Esp when they're asking me my Blizzcon tshirt size |
| 18:45.25 | [NewsBot] | Blizzplanet: Tigole talks Zul'Aman Dungeon - http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=1499 |
| 18:45.41 | Kirkburn | :) |
| 18:46.15 | Mikk | ohyeah, wtb photos of the blizzcon tshirts |
| 18:46.26 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/07/12/amannas-gem-research-center/ |
| 18:46.57 | Mikk | actually, i flat out demand photos of em. if i don't get anything else for drawing logos for wikis i have no affiliation with i at least want a photo :P |
| 18:47.08 | Kirkburn | hehe |
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| 18:47.40 | Aleandar | #doitem Gift of the Ethereal |
| 18:47.50 | Aleandar | moo :< |
| 18:47.53 | foxlit | http://www.wowwiki.com/Translucent_Spellthread_Necklace |
| 18:47.55 | pcj | it's !item now aleandar |
| 18:47.55 | [NewsBot] | MMO Champion: Tigole : Zul'Aman Clarification - http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=461.0 |
| 18:48.02 | Aleandar | aha ^^ thanks |
| 18:48.06 | pcj | !item [sandbox] Gift of the Ethereal |
| 18:48.07 | foxlit | justify is being ugly |
| 18:48.08 | Aleandar | !item Gift of the Ethereal |
| 18:48.11 | Foxbot | Tooltip saved, pcj, view at http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Sandbox/1 |
| 18:48.14 | Foxbot | Tooltip saved, Aleandar, view at http://www.wowwiki.com/Gift_of_the_Ethereal |
| 18:48.48 | Aleandar | damn that makes it sooooo easy ^^ |
| 18:49.34 | Aleandar | !item [sandbox] Nomad's Leggings |
| 18:49.48 | *** part/#wowwiki Mikk (n=opera@81-233-236-26-no19.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 18:50.40 | Foxbot | Tooltip saved, Aleandar, view at http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Sandbox/1 |
| 18:51.07 | *** part/#wowwiki Kaos (n=Kaos@vir78-1-82-230-45-137.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 18:53.49 | pcj | can someone categorize http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Welcome |
| 18:55.49 | TOR_CNR | bye all. happy gaming. see ya tomorrow ;) |
| 18:58.55 | pcj | hmm did he mean to butcher that quit message? |
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| 19:00.23 | Kaso | haha |
| 19:00.52 | pcj | nice image kirk |
| 19:03.08 | Gryphen | absolute url heh |
| 19:03.25 | Kirkburn | I haven't worked out the dir system yet :/ |
| 19:05.18 | Kirkburn | It's way ott atm, but I wanted to see if it was feasible :) |
| 19:06.26 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/07/12/real-reactions-to-virtual-environments/ |
| 19:08.09 | Kirkburn | There, much better |
| 19:08.14 | Kirkburn | A nice subtle gradient |
| 19:08.37 | Devilkoul | http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s67/DarkPhenomenon/WoWScrnShot_071207_004523.jpg |
| 19:08.41 | Devilkoul | rofl 2 hour arena |
| 19:09.04 | pcj | they probably just agreed to sit there |
| 19:09.25 | pcj | or agreed to back off when the other team was about to die, looks like |
| 19:09.26 | Devilkoul | note dmg, healing column |
| 19:09.28 | Devilkoul | ... |
| 19:09.55 | Kirkburn | The druid had 3 killing blows |
| 19:10.18 | pcj | and did more damage than the warlock |
| 19:11.17 | Devilkoul | good catch Kirk, no idea |
| 19:13.37 | laurly | foxbot sleeping or laging? |
| 19:14.19 | foxlit | !sup |
| 19:14.20 | Foxbot | There are currently 0 queued operations. |
| 19:14.29 | Fisker- | !sup b |
| 19:15.04 | laurly | he ignoring msgs? |
| 19:15.05 | foxlit | Different trigger mechanism, check User:Foxbot |
| 19:15.22 | laurly | pift |
| 19:15.58 | pcj | Hah! I changed the patrol exclamation marks |
| 19:16.29 | laurly | going to have to becareful laurlybot has !item command as well |
| 19:17.12 | pcj | chartreuse looks much better than red :P |
| 19:18.00 | Thrae | I was thinking of ThraeBot requiring itself to be addressed for commands if another Bot is in the room. |
| 19:18.02 | *** join/#wowwiki dok3Dal (n=dok@AStrasbourg-251-1-107-148.w90-26.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 19:18.12 | Thrae | IE, ThraeBot: !item |
| 19:18.26 | foxlit | Hm :, good point |
| 19:18.39 | pcj | isn't NewsBot always in the room |
| 19:18.45 | laurly | maybe all the bots should require names for in channel fucntions |
| 19:18.50 | pcj | Probably |
| 19:18.55 | laurly | will prevent future problems when more bots join |
| 19:19.12 | Thrae | Or we could also do !litem, !titem, !fitem, etc. |
| 19:19.21 | Thrae | But then ThraeBot's command would have "tit" in it >.> |
| 19:19.36 | pcj | laurly: are you expecting the bots to rise up? |
| 19:19.51 | foxlit | I was just coding Bot:Replicate(); |
| 19:20.18 | Kirkburn | !fitem !fite !fite !fite |
| 19:20.38 | pcj | pfft !litem !lite !lite !lite ? |
| 19:20.53 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 19:21.06 | laurly | some day pcj just wait .... |
| 19:21.07 | Kirkburn | I wonder where we could go with the other one ... |
| 19:23.02 | *** join/#wowwiki ThraeBot (i=generalm@c-68-49-121-90.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 19:23.58 | Thrae | !part |
| 19:24.06 | Thrae | !part #wowwiki |
| 19:24.12 | Thrae | ThraeBot: go awaaaaay |
| 19:24.13 | Kirkburn | !fart Thrae |
| 19:24.33 | Thrae | Oh right, it's leave not part |
| 19:24.44 | Kirkburn | !weave |
| 19:24.49 | Hobinheim|work | !dodge |
| 19:24.53 | Thrae | !leave wowwiki |
| 19:24.53 | ThraeBot | Leaving |
| 19:25.02 | Kirkburn | Well leave then |
| 19:25.04 | Thrae | !leave #wowwiki |
| 19:25.04 | *** part/#wowwiki ThraeBot (i=generalm@c-68-49-121-90.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 19:25.17 | pcj | http://www.wowwiki.com/MediaWiki_talk:Recentchangestext |
| 19:25.20 | Thrae | Heh, I need to upgrade those commands |
| 19:25.52 | laurly | debug.Print npc.objnpc.droped_items.id hehe this is getting out of hand |
| 19:26.08 | Hobinheim|work | pcj... can you repost that in server requests |
| 19:26.10 | Hobinheim|work | WW:SR |
| 19:26.14 | Hobinheim|work | last time i checked that was a bug in mediawiki |
| 19:26.19 | pcj | repost what? |
| 19:26.23 | Hobinheim|work | that the code for that is located in a non standard place |
| 19:26.27 | Hobinheim|work | the thing you just linked |
| 19:26.34 | pcj | kirk's changed it before... |
| 19:26.41 | Hobinheim|work | you sure? |
| 19:26.42 | Kirkburn | I just changed it again ^^ |
| 19:26.44 | pcj | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Recentchangestext&action=history |
| 19:26.45 | Hobinheim|work | ok |
| 19:26.52 | pcj | ty |
| 19:26.57 | Hobinheim|work | oh well |
| 19:26.59 | Hobinheim|work | :( |
| 19:27.17 | Kirkburn | It's the thought that counts :) |
| 19:28.14 | Hobinheim|work | oh i was thinking of a different exclamation mark... |
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| 19:28.42 | Thrae | !leave #wowwiki go away |
| 19:28.42 | *** part/#wowwiki ThraeBot (i=generalm@c-68-49-121-90.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 19:29.49 | pcj | gryphon: system messages don't show up in uncategorized pages |
| 19:30.00 | Gryphen | so? |
| 19:30.22 | pcj | idk just saying :P |
| 19:34.02 | laurly | anyone really good at OOp? |
| 19:36.27 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/07/12/new-nvidia-drivers-for-windows-vista-may-fix-wow-problems/ |
| 19:36.55 | Kirkburn | That's a point, I haven't tried WoW since I updated |
| 19:37.46 | pcj | hmm hope ATi updates soon |
| 19:38.26 | Kirkburn | When was their last release? |
| 19:38.33 | Kirkburn | (these are beta nv drivers btw) |
| 19:39.03 | Kirkburn | Hah, the notes literally say Resolved: "World of Warcraft has low frame rates.[289014]" |
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| 19:41.36 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+o Adys] by ChanServ |
| 19:41.43 | Kirkburn | Hmm, not personally seeing any change |
| 19:41.53 | Kirkburn | (btw, I love these user css/js tweaks |
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| 19:42.13 | Gryphen | heh p-Popular Pages |
| 19:42.23 | Gryphen | how about something that works :) |
| 19:42.36 | Kirkburn | mmm? |
| 19:42.54 | *** join/#wowwiki Adys (n=Adys@APoitiers-257-1-18-175.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 19:42.54 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+o Adys] by ChanServ |
| 19:42.59 | Kirkburn | Hey Adys |
| 19:42.59 | Gryphen | space doesnt work |
| 19:43.15 | Adys | hey |
| 19:43.17 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=User:Varghedin&diff=prev&oldid=746947 |
| 19:43.19 | Adys | sup with that? |
| 19:43.33 | Kirkburn | no idea |
| 19:43.54 | Adys | Been decided to open up unreg edit then i see |
| 19:43.59 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Contributions/68.36.94.113 |
| 19:44.03 | Kirkburn | Ayup |
| 19:44.11 | Kirkburn | Tis a trial |
| 19:44.15 | Adys | oki |
| 19:44.32 | Gryphen | heh |
| 19:44.49 | Kirkburn | Some stuff explained on http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Anonwelcome |
| 19:45.11 | Kirkburn | Oh my, semi-protection means something now of course! |
| 19:45.25 | Adys | ok |
| 19:45.28 | Kirkburn | Gryphen, pcj, like my background then? :P |
| 19:45.28 | Thrae | Kirkburn: Can your wiki implementation support pages editable by anon vs pages editable vs registered users only vs immutable pages? |
| 19:45.49 | Kirkburn | Er, if I'm reading you right, yes |
| 19:45.50 | Gryphen | only if pop pages is fixed :) |
| 19:45.57 | Thrae | s/editable vs registered/editable by registered/ |
| 19:46.20 | Thrae | infobot: Damn you infobot, everyone knows sed implementation here already! |
| 19:46.20 | infobot | ACTION damns you infobot, everyone knows sed implementation here already! to the bowels of bloody hell forever. |
| 19:46.26 | Kirkburn | We have default, block unreg and sysops only levels |
| 19:46.46 | Adys | lol thrae. |
| 19:46.51 | Adys | and lol infobot :/ |
| 19:46.53 | Kirkburn | Gryphen, not sure what you're talking about? |
| 19:47.03 | Kirkburn | What's wrong with it? |
| 19:47.04 | Gryphen | cant use a space |
| 19:47.18 | Kirkburn | Space? |
| 19:47.23 | Gryphen | in the id name |
| 19:47.29 | Kirkburn | ah |
| 19:47.40 | Adys | underscore works? |
| 19:47.43 | Kirkburn | You trying to hide it? |
| 19:47.44 | Gryphen | ya |
| 19:47.49 | Gryphen | trying to color it |
| 19:48.09 | Kirkburn | what colour is chartreuse |
| 19:48.22 | pcj | heh |
| 19:48.23 | Apollozeus | pitch black |
| 19:48.24 | pcj | light green |
| 19:48.27 | Thrae | Kirkburn: Yeah, pages that need real research should require registration, IMO -- like the API_ pages. Registering yourself shows that you at least did the effort to register, so it gives a bit of faith that you did the effort to actually research what you're putting in your edit. |
| 19:48.28 | Adys | yello/green |
| 19:48.29 | Gryphen | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chartreuse_(color) |
| 19:48.36 | Adys | yellow/green, even |
| 19:48.46 | Apollozeus | :P |
| 19:48.46 | Kirkburn | You've been quiet |
| 19:48.47 | Adys | yay for #7FFF00 |
| 19:48.50 | Apollozeus | yeah |
| 19:49.11 | Apollozeus | I have ceased to update my wow account |
| 19:49.16 | Apollozeus | for a couple of weeks now |
| 19:49.17 | Kirkburn | >< |
| 19:49.32 | Adys | A Crayola crayon named Chartreuse was created in 1972, but it was the incorrect color, a red-orange shade. It was renamed Atomic Tangerine in 1990. |
| 19:49.40 | Adys | wikipedia is impressive sometimes lol |
| 19:49.55 | Apollozeus | lol |
| 19:50.29 | Fisker- | wiki stuff is made up on the spot |
| 19:51.10 | Kirkburn | What is .pBody? |
| 19:51.22 | Thrae | Professor Peabody -- A time-traveling dog with a retarded boy for an assistant. |
| 19:51.51 | Adys | lol |
| 19:52.01 | pcj | pBody is the boxes on the left |
| 19:52.16 | Kirkburn | duh, I already edited them >< |
| 19:52.17 | Adys | its a css class in mediawiki thats all i know :/ |
| 19:52.35 | Hobinheim|work | zomg |
| 19:52.36 | *** part/#wowwiki Hobinheim|work (n=Hobinhei@c-69-142-120-32.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 19:52.40 | pcj | gg |
| 19:53.04 | Adys | lol |
| 19:53.21 | Kirkburn | Now /that's/ how to quit |
| 19:53.48 | Taurmindo | if i want to make several items with Foxbot, can i list them all in one line, or do i have to make seperate !item's? |
| 19:53.55 | Fisker- | damnit |
| 19:53.57 | Fisker- | i just trolled you |
| 19:54.04 | Fisker- | and didn't even see me typin' dirteeeeh |
| 19:54.06 | pcj | all in one line, except it messes up if you use [sandbox] |
| 19:54.31 | Thrae | Taurmindo: Try it out, complaing to foxlit if it doesn't work. Use commas to separate them. |
| 19:54.35 | pcj | so !item Guild Tabard, Hearthstone, Symbol of Kings |
| 19:54.45 | Taurmindo | ah, commas. thanks. :P |
| 19:54.49 | pcj | semicolons also work |
| 19:54.53 | pcj | (apparently) |
| 19:56.05 | Taurmindo | !item Square of Imbued Netherweave, Sample of Primal Mooncloth, Crystal of Deep Shadows, Nether-wraith Essence, Nether-wraith Beacon |
| 19:56.06 | Foxbot | Okay, Taurmindo, queued Square of Imbued Netherweave, Sample of Primal Mooncloth, Crystal of Deep Shadows, Nether-wraith Essence, Nether-wraith Beacon. |
| 19:59.43 | Kirkburn | I just realise - you can preview other people's CSS |
| 19:59.46 | Kirkburn | *realised |
| 20:00.13 | Kirkburn | Just go to theirs, click edit and preview |
| 20:00.45 | pcj | Yeah, works for some things |
| 20:02.00 | Adys | http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/07/12/know-your-lore-special-the-top-ten-lore-quests-part-1/ |
| 20:02.10 | Adys | Know your lore spelling outland with a plural, zomg |
| 20:04.25 | pcj | *sigh* |
| 20:07.50 | *** join/#wowwiki amro (n=amro@82.101.184.239) |
| 20:12.37 | Aleandar | Question: Anyone else here with a nVidia series 6 or higher card who experiences glitchyness when alt tabbing from wow to another window when playing in fullscreen windowed mode? |
| 20:13.00 | deltron | I don't play windowed mode so I can't help ya out there |
| 20:15.27 | amro | Aleandar: what kind of glitchyness? ingame or while tabbing? |
| 20:16.26 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/07/12/tigole-on-zulaman-have-fun-storming-the-castle/ |
| 20:20.12 | Aleandar | Well it's when you alt tab to another window that isn't fullscreen, so you'd see part of wow still in the background |
| 20:20.33 | Aleandar | the wow you still see is glitchy like as if it's stuck on one frame that was generated a few minutes ago |
| 20:24.04 | Aleandar | Does WoWinsider have an rss feed? |
| 20:24.22 | pcj | yes, that's what newsbot uses |
| 20:24.31 | Aleandar | gief gief :) can't find it :< |
| 20:25.08 | pcj | you're gonna feel silly |
| 20:25.09 | pcj | http://www.wowinsider.com/rss.xml |
| 20:25.14 | Aleandar | >< |
| 20:25.19 | Aleandar | thanks ^^ |
| 20:27.06 | deltron | lol |
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| 20:27.16 | amro | Aleandar: ah, yeah WoW stays in the background but it should keep rendering |
| 20:27.17 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+v Dotted] by ChanServ |
| 20:28.18 | Aleandar | amro: exactly, you have that too? |
| 20:33.05 | Dotted | ty pcj for reverting the vandalism on [[User:Dotted/NewsBot]] |
| 20:33.42 | Gryphen | woot for anon |
| 20:34.08 | Dotted | ye |
| 20:34.22 | Dotted | it was a guy from my realm tho, so i know who he is :) |
| 20:35.15 | Aleandar | oO |
| 20:35.18 | Aleandar | jealous? |
| 20:36.15 | Dotted | oO? |
| 20:37.04 | Aleandar | In-game eye *shocked* thingy |
| 20:37.24 | Aleandar | I play too much :< |
| 20:43.48 | pcj | yeh |
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| 20:45.11 | whoopsbob | I don't play enough :) |
| 20:45.25 | [NewsBot] | Blizzplanet: Starcraft II - Gamespot E3 Video Interview w/ Rob Pardo - http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=1500 |
| 20:48.35 | pcj | 156 days /played |
| 20:50.45 | Aleandar | about 171 over all my characters |
| 20:51.50 | pcj | 62 days played this level |
| 20:53.09 | Aleandar | what's your level? |
| 20:54.19 | pcj | 70 |
| 20:54.26 | pcj | !char us maelstrom dernham |
| 20:54.28 | Foxbot | pcj: Dernham, Level 70 Paladin (0/61/0). 12607 HP; 4668 Mana; 250 Str; 150 Agi; 15493 Armor; +355 defense; 18.16% dodge. |
| 20:55.10 | Aleandar | nice :)) |
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| 20:55.27 | Aleandar | !char eu anachronos grimlor |
| 20:55.28 | Foxbot | Aleandar: Grimlor, Level 70 Mage (10/0/51). 7263 HP; 8306 Mana; +7.21% spell hit; +130 spell crit rating; 823 +frost. |
| 20:56.27 | amro | Aleandar: it keeps rendering but a bit slower |
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| 20:57.18 | Thrae | Thrae: Dernham, Level 70 Human Paladin (0/61/0). 12607 HP; 4668 Mana; 250 Str; 15493 Armour; 690 AP; +7.25% melee crit; 16 +spell dmg/heal; +355 defense; 18.16% dodge; 14.34% block; +23 resilience. [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/227jk8 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2uh9p7 ]] |
| 20:57.55 | pcj | kek |
| 20:58.06 | Aleandar | amro: Mine just freezes on a random frame :/ |
| 20:58.14 | pcj | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=WoWWiki:Gallery_of_user_styles |
| 20:58.15 | Thrae | I don't think the extra stats are that much spammier |
| 20:58.24 | pcj | they aren't on that |
| 20:58.28 | pcj | actually more useful |
| 20:58.33 | pcj | on items it's a bit much tho |
| 20:58.34 | Aleandar | Is it preferable to replace a picture made from a modelviewer with a screenshot, or to just let the modelpic exist and upload a new one? |
| 20:58.37 | Thrae | Yeah |
| 20:58.39 | pcj | replace |
| 20:58.43 | Aleandar | kk |
| 20:58.51 | Thrae | But foxlit doesn't seem to think so :D |
| 20:59.08 | Kirkburn|afk | (pcj, for that page, we should make no mention of ad removal) |
| 20:59.18 | pcj | :o |
| 20:59.41 | Kirkburn|afk | I hope the reasons are obvious :) |
| 20:59.51 | Gryphen | i have two computers, one with ati and one with nvida, both fullscreen-windowed on dual monitors and WoW continues on fine no matter what the focus is. |
| 21:00.32 | Kirkburn|afk | I'm off to watch the Return of the King appendices ... if I'm not back later, have a great night, one and all! |
| 21:00.38 | Gryphen | pcj I categorized mine as User CSS |
| 21:03.15 | laurly | template help: npcbox if race is included cant it automaticly put it in the corect categorie for that race? |
| 21:03.39 | Thrae | Return of the Kings Expert Director's Cut Remix Platinum Edition -- "-Every- single second of their adventure is now added, including sleeping and going to the bathroom! See Samwise's horrible fight with diarreha! This epic masterpiece is now extended to the full 2400 hours in a 10-piece DVD set!" |
| 21:05.30 | pcj | i actually watched all those features |
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| 21:21.27 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/07/12/this-week-in-the-arena/ |
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| 21:28.26 | Aleandar | bah @ bluescreens :s |
| 21:29.34 | pcj | oh |
| 21:31.56 | Taurmindo | !item Deepen Altar of Shadows |
| 21:31.56 | Foxbot | Could not resolve item id for [Deepen Altar of Shadows]; try supplying one manually. |
| 21:32.46 | pcj | pwned |
| 21:32.57 | Taurmindo | Foxbot > Taurmindo. :( |
| 21:34.19 | Gryphen | Deepen Altar of Shadows? |
| 21:35.04 | Taurmindo | hihi. it isn't an item,. ;P |
| 21:35.31 | Gryphen | there is an object called, Altar of Shadows |
| 21:35.54 | pcj | can someone change http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Welcome "lots of thing to keep you busy" -> "lots of things to keep you busy" |
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| 21:40.48 | pcj | what is #wikiDiff Gryphen |
| 21:41.00 | Gryphen | container around the diff table |
| 21:42.45 | Taurmindo | is there some page explaining all the different if-versions i can use? ;P |
| 21:43.03 | Gryphen | http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/ParserFunctions |
| 21:43.10 | Gryphen | those? |
| 21:44.29 | Taurmindo | i'll check.. *slow computer |
| 21:44.30 | Taurmindo | * |
| 21:45.29 | Taurmindo | [22:57:15] [Thrae] Thrae: Dernham, Level 70 Human Paladin (0/61/0). 12607 HP; 4668 Mana; 250 Str; 15493 Armour; 690 AP; +7.25% melee crit; 16 +spell dmg/heal; +355 defense; 18.16% dodge; 14.34% block; +23 resilience. [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/227jk8 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2uh9p7 ]] |
| 21:45.38 | Taurmindo | 250 mana and 15493 strength? |
| 21:45.57 | Thrae | Taurmindo: Read it again... |
| 21:46.10 | Taurmindo | aaaah, now i see it. |
| 21:46.12 | pcj | Yes, I'm an unusual paladin |
| 21:46.17 | Taurmindo | bad useage of ; :) |
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| 21:46.29 | Thrae | Taurmindo: Blame foxlit |
| 21:46.48 | pcj | Oh, backward european, eh? |
| 21:47.21 | Thrae | Actually, I think 250 Str makes more sense then Str 250...you'd normally say in a sentence, "I have 250 Str" |
| 21:47.46 | Thrae | And ; normally denotes the end of a sentence (but perhaps on your client ; looks like :, in which case your font can go die) |
| 21:48.02 | Thrae | Actually, ; denotes the end of a particle |
| 21:49.28 | Taurmindo | well, it basicly looked like "Mana: 250 Str: 15493.." using colon when listing something isn't exactly unusual.. ;P |
| 21:49.43 | Thrae | Taurmindo: Meaning your font sucks |
| 21:49.59 | Thrae | As the difference between ; and : is VERY visible to me even on this terminal font ;) |
| 21:50.24 | pcj | Me too |
| 21:52.34 | Taurmindo | nah, i can see the difference of : and ; .. though the ; useage is more similar to that of the colon, rather than that of the comma. basicly, it looked like it was meant to be "Mana: 250" and not "250 Str", as the ; in the listing gave the impression of having the meaning of colon rather than comma. |
| 21:52.47 | Taurmindo | but, it was just a misreading from my side. ;P |
| 21:53.09 | Thrae | Taurmindo: Not in English grammar |
| 21:57.51 | pcj | kek |
| 21:59.48 | Fisker- | xD i guess this is why they call this channel #wowwiki |
| 22:00.45 | Fisker- | i said xD |
| 22:00.57 | Gryphen | ¯\(o_O)/¯ |
| 22:01.26 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.www.wowinsider.com/2007/07/12/this-week-in-the-arena/ |
| 22:01.26 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.www.wowinsider.com/2007/07/12/tigole-on-zulaman-have-fun-storming-the-castle/ |
| 22:01.26 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.www.wowinsider.com/2007/07/12/new-nvidia-drivers-for-windows-vista-may-fix-wow-problems/ |
| 22:01.26 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.www.wowinsider.com/2007/07/12/real-reactions-to-virtual-environments/ |
| 22:01.26 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.www.wowinsider.com/2007/07/12/amannas-gem-research-center/ |
| 22:01.46 | pcj | ? |
| 22:16.26 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/07/12/more-battlegrounds-in-our-future/ |
| 22:17.19 | pcj | hmm |
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| 22:28.40 | laurly | poor foxbot so abused |
| 22:30.31 | laurly | i think i broke foxbot |
| 22:30.55 | Thrae | What's the maximum number of characters irc networks can handle in a single message? |
| 22:31.19 | laurly | 1 line its like 4k something chars |
| 22:31.28 | laurly | [00:30] <Foxbot> Page generator crashed for [10307]. |
| 22:31.29 | laurly | [00:30] <Foxbot> Page generator crashed for [10308]. |
| 22:31.29 | laurly | [00:30] <Foxbot> Page generator crashed for [10310]. |
| 22:31.33 | laurly | foxlit :) |
| 22:33.27 | Arrowmaster | Thrae: if your using mIRC keep typing till it starts beeping |
| 22:33.47 | Thrae | Arrowmaster: I need the # for ThraeBot ;) |
| 22:33.57 | Thrae | laurly: So around 512 you think? Hmmm... |
| 22:34.26 | Kaso | my client breaks at 425 |
| 22:34.52 | Thrae | Kaso: Does the 'ol ...? |
| 22:34.54 | Kaso | 512 would make sense with the extra space going for the meta infomation |
| 22:34.58 | Arrowmaster | 449 i think |
| 22:35.11 | Thrae | Oh wait, I know how I can test it <bonks dead> |
| 22:35.13 | Kaso | Someone should really read the irc satandard |
| 22:35.33 | laurly | google rfc + irc find it there |
| 22:35.44 | laurly | night guys |
| 22:36.04 | Gryphen | I get 460 characters |
| 22:36.15 | Kaso | 510 char max for command and params |
| 22:36.24 | Thrae | I'm going to do 400 to be safe |
| 22:36.40 | Gryphen | just send yourself a really long message and you can see what freenode cuts it off at |
| 22:36.51 | Thrae | Gryphen: Right, just did that |
| 22:37.35 | Arrowmaster | i dont think that works correctly, perty sure the raw parts of the command to send a message get counted too |
| 22:38.13 | Kaso | 299 is the minimum safe limit as far as my calculations go |
| 22:38.42 | Kaso | 510 char, minus "PRIVMSG #chan :" where chan can be 200 char long |
| 22:39.04 | pcj | hmm that'd be a long channel name |
| 22:39.15 | Kaso | true, but its possible by the standard |
| 22:39.34 | Kaso | The best thing would be to dynamically set your limit depending on the channel your using |
| 22:40.06 | Arrowmaster | freenode has CHANNELLEN=30 set |
| 22:40.13 | Kaso | oh? |
| 22:40.20 | Kaso | well thats easier then |
| 22:40.25 | Thrae | Kaso: Just add up the actual packet you're sending to the network and make sure it's <512? |
| 22:40.35 | Kaso | yeh that'll work |
| 22:40.45 | Kaso | <511 though |
| 22:40.52 | Thrae | Right, right |
| 22:41.25 | Kaso | the last two chars are used for cr-lf |
| 22:41.26 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/07/12/beware-of-posting-spoilers-on-the-official-forums/ |
| 22:41.56 | Thrae | Kaso: Well, you have to send the \r\n w/ Lua, since I'm doing it in raw TCP |
| 22:42.37 | Thrae | Kaso: Oh, no, wait, I know what you mean -- yeah, right |
| 22:45.40 | Kaso | UK military spokesman Major Mike Shearer said: "We can categorically state that we have not released man-eating badgers into the area." |
| 22:51.28 | Kaso | 747? thats a little excessive |
| 22:51.51 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 22:51.54 | Fisker- | but worth it |
| 22:56.43 | Fisker- | bye :( |
| 22:56.55 | Aleandar | nn |
| 22:57.01 | Aleandar | and |
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| 23:16.26 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/07/12/does-karazhan-need-a-shorter-reset-timer/ |
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| 23:21.57 | Aleandar | 4 day reset would kill progressing guilds imo :/ |
| 23:22.27 | Aleandar | simple sollution might be: normal mode = 7 day reset & heroic mode = 3-4 day reset |
| 23:25.30 | Devilkoul | kara is serious business |
| 23:26.12 | Kaso | thats a fairly smart suggestion Aleandar. |
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| 23:26.56 | Hobinheim|work | the internet. is serious business |
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| 23:28.59 | Kaso | Seriousness is serious business. |
| 23:29.44 | Hobinheim|work | well played, kaso |
| 23:30.40 | Taurmindo | seriously, is business serious? |
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| 23:31.17 | pcj | i still say they should let guilds reset whenever they feel like, it's not like people can't get free gear through arena anyway |
| 23:31.34 | Aleandar | also very tru |
| 23:31.38 | Aleandar | true* |
| 23:32.08 | Aleandar | but then again, who'd have the right to reset a raid-id? |
| 23:32.30 | pcj | Yeah |
| 23:32.45 | pcj | It should probably bind to the group leader |
| 23:32.49 | Kaso | i think having 0 reset raid instances would cause people in nilihum and whatnot to die out of lack of food, sunlight and exercisis |
| 23:32.57 | Kaso | They'd just be running 24/7 |
| 23:33.03 | pcj | Heh |
| 23:33.10 | Aleandar | did you read that interview? |
| 23:33.18 | Aleandar | 6/7 days, 6 hours a day |
| 23:33.25 | Aleandar | that's just extremely hardcore :o |
| 23:33.45 | pcj | Well, they're European |
| 23:33.47 | pcj | So they have no life |
| 23:33.49 | Kaso | to be honest i used to play wow that much, just not raiding all the time |
| 23:34.11 | Kaso | 5pm till like 2am, every night |
| 23:34.15 | Kaso | man im glad i quit |
| 23:34.23 | pcj | that's not health |
| 23:34.24 | pcj | y |
| 23:34.42 | Aleandar | raiding is more exhausting then just playing |
| 23:34.46 | Aleandar | and i'm european... :/ |
| 23:34.52 | Kaso | as am i! |
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| 23:35.07 | Aleandar | let's hit pcj :) |
| 23:35.22 | pcj | No |
| 23:35.33 | Aleandar | yes |
| 23:36.06 | Aleandar | You're a meanie, i'm so outta here |
| 23:36.09 | Devilkoul | i play wow that much |
| 23:36.11 | Devilkoul | :/ |
| 23:36.20 | Aleandar | curse work in the morning :< goodnight all |
| 23:36.30 | Devilkoul | night |
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| 23:53.33 | Taurmindo | !item Girdle of Nobility |
| 23:53.37 | Foxbot | Tooltip saved, Taurmindo, view at http://www.wowwiki.com/Girdle_of_Nobility |
| 23:59.26 | Taurmindo | !item Thistlenettle's Badge |
| 23:59.31 | Foxbot | Tooltip saved, Taurmindo, view at http://www.wowwiki.com/Thistlenettle's_Badge |
