IRC log for #wowwiki on 20070706

00:12.29Dottedhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wynk5cnxTfk rotfled
00:13.16KirkburnI think I have that film
00:14.01KirkburnYup, I have it :)
00:14.59Dottedmelody is nice ;);););)
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01:34.29KirkburnOf all the times to crash, it crashes when I'm near death and fighting 4 mobs ... FFS!
01:38.38Kaydeethreeit's like the client always knows...
01:42.19Kirkburnit's true!
01:42.53KasoThe issue is to do with Human perception, rather than the client "knowing", you forget the 100 times it crashes at unimporant times, but you remeber the 1 time i crashes whilst you're fighting a group of 4
01:43.11KirkburnSpoilsport :(
01:43.15Kasohaha
01:43.33KasoEllo, kirkburn and others btw, i have returned from my holidays
01:43.38KirkburnFortunately WoW doesn't crash that often for me :P
01:43.41KirkburnWelcome back!
01:43.59KirkburnNow ... get to work!
01:44.16KasoThough i serve little purpose in #wowwiki nowadays, Foxbot has taken over the kasobot code.
01:44.31KirkburnWe miss you anyway :)
01:45.20KasoSo, kirk, when do you get your exam results
01:45.31KirkburnTwo weeka ago
01:45.33Kirkburn*weeks
01:45.44KirkburnNot as good as I wanted, but as much as I deserved
01:45.54KirkburnOnly one resit forunately :P
01:46.02KirkburnI managed to get 8% in that exam
01:46.14Kasoreally? thats awfuly soon after yor exams, im not getting results till 12th
01:46.20Kaso8% wow that is pretty bad
01:46.29Kirkburnhehe
01:46.37KirkburnI already knew it was bad, I was prepared
01:46.45Kirkburn(Well, obviously not for the exam itself!)
01:46.50Kasohaha
01:47.03Kasoi fear i might have to retake 1 exam also. but we shall see come 12th
01:47.18Kasoonly day of non-worrying left
01:47.18KirkburnHope you did well :)
01:47.26Kirkburnzomgzomgzomg
01:48.06Dottedomg my realm is getting efamous
01:48.16Kirkburnhow so?
01:48.29KirkburnNot cause of Mr. Teabingh I hope ...
01:48.35DottedTotalBiscuet (or whatever) moved to my realm
01:48.40Dottedstarts with T
01:48.51Dottedother than that i dont think they are connected
01:48.57KirkburnHe does the radio show, no?
01:49.08Dottedidd
01:49.11Dottedhttp://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Trollbane&n=Totalhalibut
01:49.23Dottedhttp://www.wcradio.com/archive/blueplz/wow-bp-07-01-07.mp3
01:50.01Dottedgood thing is im alliance and he is horde - so i can gank him =)
01:50.44Kasomy favouret thing is finding a friendly alliance priest on IRC then teaming up to use MC to gank friendly noobies, so fun
01:50.58Dotted:P
02:09.09KirkburnDing 69
02:09.31pcj:|
02:14.48Dottedzomg
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02:34.40Pac2722hey ppl watch out for keyloggers i got hit by 1 & still cant get my account back
02:40.18Dottedif you got keylogged, you need to change your internet habits
02:42.25KirkburnPac2722, any idea how it happened?
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02:48.27Fisker-bah
02:48.30Fisker-they did remove worldport
02:48.31Sky2042hey gryphen, i need tooltip untweeked. i added an untested change that broke one of the functions. just a minor detail.
02:48.33Fisker-stupid blizzard
02:48.39Sky2042:x
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02:53.15GryphenSky2042 you need the instancebind change undone?
02:53.47Sky2042yeah
02:53.48Sky2042:x
02:54.01Sky2042you think it can be tweaked though?
02:54.15Sky2042i'm pretty sure it can't be, but it would be nice.
02:54.48Gryphennot by me
02:55.32Sky2042eh
02:55.41Sky2042then just get rid of the brackets
02:55.47Sky2042if you could, senor
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03:36.23iZenanyone here?
03:36.35KirkburnNope, no-one at all :P
03:37.04KirkburnOh, you mean apart from the 54 other people? :)
03:37.17iZenwell nobody was talking
03:37.20iZeni have a question
03:37.37iZenanyone have an ati card that installed wow through wine and is running it fine?
03:37.41KirkburnFor a grand total of a minute, nevermind the fact it's 4:30am for me, heh
03:37.45iZeni dont want to go back to xp
03:37.54KirkburnGet Vista then ;)
03:37.59iZengood joke
03:38.16KirkburnHave you read the wiki's Wine pages? (I am running Vista btw)
03:38.20iZenmicrosoft just isnt my thing anymore.
03:38.27iZenyeah
03:38.30KirkburnFair enough
03:38.37iZenim running unbuntu
03:39.08KirkburnI don't know of anyone running WoW on Linux here, I shall holler anyway. Oi, any Linux people around?!
03:39.39KirkburnBtw, if no-one shows up here, try #wowi-lounge and #wowace
03:40.00iZenty, i do have an xp machine but id like to be able to have unbuntu on my laptop with wow
03:40.30pcjyeah vista rox
03:40.54KirkburnWell, I don't know of any specific stuff, but I recall being told that ATi isn't great for Linux drivers
03:41.27iZenyeah, i got the drivers installed took me 2 days but i got it finally
03:41.33Kirkburnouch
03:41.42iZenand then i found an app that does it for you after i did it manualy
03:41.50KirkburnDouble ouch
03:41.51iZenfigures lol
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04:10.00IWanyone good with table templates that could help with a problem?
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04:20.31pcjwhat problem
04:20.46pcjok
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04:58.55Sky2042hey gryphen, i'm guessing you have server:barthilas on watchlist?
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06:19.36GryphenSky2042 yes
06:20.05Gryphennn all
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07:51.39Taurmindo3http://www.wowwiki.com/Server:Barthilas_US/Jammno .. uhm.
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10:46.52[NewsBot]MMO Champion: Armor Showroom updated again, Engbags - http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=420.0
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11:48.17LadySerenaWoW almost always makes some part of my OSX desktop crash.  Usually its the Dock, but sometimes its the SystemMenuBar.  Is this something I can report to a GM?
11:48.50foxlitGMs don't do tech support :(
11:48.55foxlitPost in the forums :)
11:49.03foxlitThere's a Mac-specific tech support forum
11:50.06LadySerenaI ask because I've been playing for about an hour, and my Dock just died.
11:50.36Fisker-The GM support staff isn't at all educated in technical support
11:50.42Fisker-so you should either call them or use the forums
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11:56.06LadySerenaperhaps after my laptop arrives and I install FreeBSD, I could install WINE and WoW on it and not have to worry about KDE dying
12:02.34DottedFisker- that 6898 patch fixed port
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14:50.01Dotteddie in a freakin' fire
15:00.30Fisker-fucking yes
15:14.02Kirkburn|sleepBibi, your last comment on http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=420.0 is slightly false - Baggins doesn't change layouts immediately any more
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15:21.55Bibioh ?
15:23.03Bibiedited my post.
15:23.07Bibisee if it's better now
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15:26.00Bibi^^
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17:07.07Taurmindois it "Titans" or "titans"?
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17:28.59|FF|Im2good4udoes any1 know where i can dual 9to get sheeped into old IF)
17:29.25KasoCan you duel inside IF?
17:29.32Kaso(not an alliance)
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17:34.11|FF|Im2good4uyes u cna there 2 spots
17:34.18|FF|Im2good4uatleast 2 i know off
17:34.25|FF|Im2good4u1 near the bank
17:34.35|FF|Im2good4ustand behind the pilar mear the mail box
17:34.38Kirkburn|sleepGryphen, bet you didn't realise how many wikis there were :P
17:34.39|FF|Im2good4u(both ppl)
17:35.31Gryphenive seen quite a few of them
17:35.53Kirkburn|sleep:(
17:35.55Gryphennot to mention the ton of startups
17:36.18Gryphen..not related to wikia
17:36.20Gryphenhehe
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17:40.31laurlyok i think i finaly got the quest naming working right.   http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Sandbox/2  <--- Hows that look?
17:41.12laurlyoh and buffering now as well so the questlong stuff should be all corect now as well
17:43.40Gryphenlooking nice
17:44.59Gryphenwould like to see the <BR> replace with a newline
17:45.14laurlythought i removed all them let me check
17:46.02Grypheni think the comment can be taken out of {{questbox
17:46.21Gryphenfor cleanliness
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17:46.47laurly*{{loot|Common|Duron's Report}} (Provided)<br>  <-- that br?
17:47.02Gryphenand one in the description
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17:49.36laurlyk sec rebooting bot
17:51.14TecnoBratmorning all
17:51.24laurlyok reload it Gryphen
17:51.56TecnoBrat1 too many newlines after descriptions
17:52.18TecnoBratdescription*
17:52.31Gryphenthe description needs a newline or two in place break
17:52.35laurlyi think thats comming with the rip from the text i have been trying to find it trim didnt help
17:52.42Gryphentwo
17:53.07TecnoBratAnd yes
17:53.16TecnoBratand tell him you're ready for duty.
17:53.29Grypheni think the ones after the description are acceptable at least
17:53.29TecnoBratafter taht should be two new lines, instead of 1
17:53.48laurlysec reloading it
17:54.05TecnoBratjust looks weird compared to the other sections, not consistent
17:55.11laurlyreload has 2 newlines now insted of one
17:55.31TecnoBratbetter, yea
17:55.48TecnoBratis {{cost}} adding an extra space at the end?
17:56.49laurlywhere?
17:57.12TecnoBrat2400 XP (or 28Silver 80Copper at level 70)
17:57.26TecnoBratthere is two spaces after the copper symbol
17:57.50TecnoBratI think its the {{Cost}} template doing it though
17:57.55TecnoBratyour code looks like it should be correct
17:58.03Kirkburn|sleepHow can you add two spaces?
17:58.07Gryphencost adds them
17:58.09Kirkburn|sleepOne must be &nbsp; surely
17:58.10Gryphen&nbsp;
17:58.15Kirkburn|sleepheh
17:59.13laurlysec reloading it think i might have found the extra returns in description
17:59.23[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/07/06/arena-stats-from-the-second-season-start/
17:59.32laurly2 spaces after copper man you guys are picky
17:59.55Kirkburn|sleepBtw, China is soon to get TBC
18:00.29TecnoBratlaurly, I'm sorry
18:00.41TecnoBratI do crap like this for my job
18:00.44TecnoBratand yes, I am picky
18:00.55Kirkburn|sleepPerfection, nothing less :)
18:01.20TecnoBratI am a *VERY* analytical person
18:01.24laurlyreload
18:01.33Kirkburn|sleepYou sure about the "ytical" bit? ;)
18:01.41laurlyand edit the desc section i dont think theres any new lines there i think its just a display thingie
18:02.24TecnoBratRight now its "needs you even more.\n\n\n== Progress =="
18:02.39Kirkburn|sleepIt's amazes me how much more there is to add to the wiki every day
18:02.41Kirkburn|sleep*it
18:02.48laurlyif i can find the flaky one time in 5 object variable or with block variable not set bug you guys can test here out a bit
18:04.14laurlywhat do you mean TecnoBrat?
18:06.03TecnoBratthere is 3 newlines after the Description
18:06.07TecnoBratEdit the whole page: http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=WoWWiki:Sandbox/2&action=edit
18:06.10TecnoBratand you can see them
18:06.27laurlybtw she has a crawl command so if told to she would do all the quests that dont exist in the quest progression section
18:06.32TecnoBratdoesn't REALLY matter, but its there :)
18:07.27laurlyi cant find it :/
18:11.04TecnoBratWhere are you pulling the quest details from?
18:12.25laurlyguess :)
18:14.02laurlyi have been wondering if i should put a comment in as to where the data was comming from.   But as its all orignaly from wow is it really copywrited
18:14.05TecnoBratwowhead
18:14.18Gryphenthe content is from WoW :p
18:14.22laurlyquests come from wowhead NPC's load from throt
18:14.50TecnoBratskorisis, do you care? No? okay thanks bye! :P
18:15.12Kirkburn|sleepwoah, DarkRyder's new bot is cool
18:15.17Gryphenya
18:15.21Gryphenbeen watching it
18:15.21laurlylets load the hord version of that quest make sure it still works
18:15.38laurlywhats it doing?
18:16.06Kirkburn|sleepSee User:DarkRyder
18:16.12Kirkburn|sleepThe characters section
18:18.52laurlyyeah that is kewl
18:18.57TecnoBrathmmmm wowhead doesnt have an xml version of quests?
18:19.27Gryphennewp
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18:33.50clad|awayTecnoBrat: What do you need the details for?
18:34.00clad|away(quest details, that is)
18:34.51TecnoBratclad|away, oh you probably missed the conversation, laurly's bot imports quest info into the wiki. I'm assuming she is page scraping .. I thought there was an xml version .. guess not.
18:35.50clad|awayno, but I could provide a parser for the page, which would give you all information
18:35.56clad|awayassuming the bot can interface with lua tables
18:36.13laurlyahh xml is to easy no challange :)
18:36.21laurlybot is vb6 <> lua
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18:37.08clad|awayyeah, its not available in XML
18:37.12clad|awayand the parser is non-trivial :P
18:37.27clad|awaybut what I have works =)
18:37.33laurlydont worry about it to much she works as it is
18:37.59laurlyfor the most part still got a few bugs http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Sandbox/2
18:38.14laurlykilled the object variable or with block variable not set error though :)
18:38.30clad|awayheheh okay
18:38.51clad|awayi'm just parsing all quest pages already for lightheaded, that's why i offere d:P
18:39.06TecnoBrathehe
18:39.15TecnoBratShould just yell at skorisis
18:39.21TecnoBrattell him to make an xml :P
18:39.44TecnoBratdammit, Skosiris
18:39.51TecnoBratcan't type today
18:43.05foxlitJudging by wowhead's item XML, they aren't really that interested in being a primary data source
18:43.26foxlitIt's mostly embeddable functionality of the "add a tooltip with our formatting to this item" type
18:44.37laurlygrrr somethings not working right
18:44.48Kirkburn|sleepPhew, sorted the non-english fansite list
18:45.20Kirkburn|sleepWikis is done too (mostly, I may have missed some wikia ones)
18:45.28Kirkburn|sleepNow ... er ... for the English listings :/
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18:51.02Taurmindouh, how does the APB bot work with servernames which have spaces in them?
18:51.36Kirkburn|sleepGood point :) Leave a note on DR's page
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18:51.47Gryphenadd a space :)
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18:52.31Taurmindo'cause "* EU The Venture Co [charname]" doesn't feel all right.. ;)
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19:10.32Kirkburn|sleepOoh, I found a new bluetracker
19:10.51Kirkburn|sleepwww.wowblues.com
19:11.09Gryphenisnt that on the fansite list?
19:11.16Kirkburn|sleepIt is, that's where I found it :P
19:11.22Gryphenlol
19:11.27Kirkburn|sleepThey don't have their own section though
19:11.28Gryphencongrats!
19:11.30Gryphenhehe
19:11.36Kirkburn|sleepI think I may move them from the Forum tracker page
19:11.45Gryphenthey are
19:12.07Grypheni had a short email convo with the admin
19:12.29Kirkburn|sleepThey are ... what?
19:12.42Gryphenon the forum tracker page
19:12.49Kirkburn|sleepOh right
19:12.57Gryphenoh
19:12.59Gryphenfrom*
19:13.03Kirkburn|sleepThink they should go in the Main sites box, third column?
19:13.19Kirkburn|sleepOr make Forum trackers an extra link on the nav
19:13.25Gryphennav i think
19:14.53Kirkburn|sleepdone
19:17.01Sky2042now why the hell do i have a copy of the GNU license in my Program Files folder?
19:17.05Sky2042o_0
19:28.11DottedKirkburn|sleep i like every aspect of that site except the rss feed which massively fails
19:28.31Kirkburn|sleepWhat's wrong with it?
19:28.45Dotteddoesnt show which forum a given post was made in
19:28.46laurlyhttp://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Sandbox/2  <-- hord version of the same quest
19:30.05Sky2042External links*
19:30.19Sky2042And "Quest progression"
19:30.49Sky2042you don't actually need the section for Elinks, as they are provided in the questbox
19:31.32laurlywas in boilerplate quest when i copyed it.
19:32.03laurlybut your right dumping it.
19:32.19laurlyreloading processing
19:32.20Sky2042when did you copy it? :P
19:32.56laurlywhen i started coding the bot :/
19:33.02Sky2042lol
19:33.33laurlytakes longer to process the quests now that its buffering the data for all the quests in a quest line
19:35.13foxlit|Machey, it's a bonus!
19:35.32foxlit|MacYou get all of the quests for the same number of requests if you do it properly :)
19:35.43laurlylol would have helped if i had saved the boilerplate change.
19:35.43Gryphenelinks is in the boiler plate sky
19:35.55Gryphenboilerplate
19:35.56Gryphenheh
19:36.23Grypheni think they are better at the end of the article than in the box
19:36.24Gryphenpersonally
19:36.25laurlyyeah but hes kinda right maybe it shouldnt be
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19:36.51Kirkburn|sleepIt amazed me that there seem to be just TWO french fansites
19:36.56Sky2042and elinks is -not- in the bp. i just checked -_-. the section in the questbox takes an id if given one.
19:36.59laurlyshall we test quest crawling :)
19:37.02Kirkburn|sleepBut 11 german sites
19:37.06Gryphenit is in the bp
19:37.17laurlyhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Boilerplate:Quest
19:37.22Gryphen<!-- External Links to Thottbot, Allakhazam:
19:37.22Gryphen== External Links ==
19:37.22Gryphen{{Elinks-quest|1234|1234}}
19:37.22Gryphen-->
19:37.39Kirkburn|sleepCommented out! :O
19:37.42laurlyand theres the double id that someone complained about the other day as well.
19:37.43Sky2042bah
19:37.46Sky2042damn comments
19:37.52Sky2042truth laurly
19:38.03laurlyok so do we remove it from the bottom or leave it?
19:38.21Grypheni think it should be in for consistency
19:38.28Gryphenthe one in the box sucks
19:38.32Kirkburn|sleepCrud, gold sellers have been buying up the non-.com WoWWiki addresses
19:39.02Sky2042lol
19:39.02Sky2042fuckin owned
19:39.02Kirkburn|sleep(Previously they weren't gold sellers, just random other things)
19:39.36Kirkburn|sleepI did look at buying them up a while back, but they were all taken by hangers-on
19:40.06Kirkburn|sleepWoWWiki.it is at least a valid site
19:41.34Sky2042lol
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19:42.20Sky2042hmm
19:43.50Sky2042where was the change to frost nova documented that took it off the automatic break after a crit, but still left an increased chance to break?
19:43.53Sky2042from damage*
19:44.41foxlit|Mac2.1
19:46.23[NewsBot]GamePolitics: http://gamepolitics.com/2007/07/06/in-wake-of-resistance-flap-a-sacred-digital-edict-for-game-makers/
19:46.57Sky2042general damage now
19:47.00Sky2042instead of on crit
19:47.02Sky2042ty foxlit
19:49.40Sky2042ugh
19:49.52Sky2042let's see what his case is before blaming him for being an idiot
19:49.55Sky2042:D
19:50.42foxlit|MacFN breaks easily on crits, though
19:51.29Sky2042i know
19:51.43Sky2042i've got 3 out of it before, though
19:51.49Sky2042i think maybe 4
19:51.59foxlit|MacI'm lucky to get bolt + lance
19:52.21Sky2042my experiences are from pre TBC >.>
19:54.42Kirkburn|sleepWow, just came across a forum that was an almost perfect copy of the official forums
19:55.16laurlysome ppl really need to get a hobby
19:55.18Kirkburn|sleepCan't link cause I just noticed it was also for private servers
19:55.23Sky2042LOL
19:55.25Sky2042booooo
19:55.27Sky2042!wwstats
19:55.27[NewsBot]#wowwiki stats: http://www.bxd.dk/irc/wowwiki.html
19:55.39Sky2042woohoo!
19:55.42Kirkburn|sleepSeriously amazing copy though, it's as if they got the source for it all
19:55.44Sky2042almost caught kirkburn
19:56.00Kirkburn|sleeplol
19:56.02Kirkburn|sleepNever!
19:56.04Kirkburn|sleepEver!
19:56.05Sky2042bring it
19:56.11Sky2042you're goin down!
19:56.22Sky2042ho shit
19:56.28Kirkburn|sleepI think we should be taking down Baggins first though
19:56.35Sky2042hobinheim plays smash bros...
19:56.37Sky2042bah
19:56.43Kirkburn|sleepLol, I was last seen 2 days ago ...
19:56.47Sky20425.7k to my 4.5k? piece of cake
19:56.49Kirkburn*sigh*
19:57.03laurlyhey i finaly made the stats :)
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19:59.22Sky2042foxlit, tell me if this is true, cause I'm almost positively sure it's not: They get a bonus to break if the source of damage is a fire effect.
19:59.30KirkburnOuch, we have only one guild-related fansite link now
19:59.30Sky2042(on frost nova breaking)
19:59.42foxlit|MacSounds like BS to me
19:59.52Sky2042good
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20:01.15Sky2042i'm hungry
20:01.50DottedSky2042 get Kirkburn to do it cba to update it =P
20:02.06Kirkburnupdate what?
20:02.16Dottedstats
20:02.36Kirkburn!wwupdatestats
20:02.49Kirkburn?
20:03.20Sky2042isn't it just !updatestats?
20:03.28KirkburnProbably
20:03.31Kirkburn!updatestats
20:03.41Sky2042fail?
20:03.52KirkburnGod knows
20:04.08GodYes?
20:04.42GodDamnit, another dropped call. I really need to switch to HeavenServe.
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20:05.01Kirkburnlol
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20:05.56Sky2042pcj, greeder != ninja
20:06.52[NewsBot]MMO Champion: Class balancing in PvP scheduled for a future patch, Nihilum vs Millenium - http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=425.0
20:09.23[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/07/06/a-bot-farmer-commends-blizzard-anti-botting-measures/
20:09.46foxlit|Mac"The developers are looking into the Druids overall performance in the Arenas, so I would say that it is too soon to give up on your Druid just yet."
20:09.52foxlit|MacOh good.
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20:17.35KirkburnWoo! Fansites page is done!
20:18.32foxlit|MacIt has a gnome on it.
20:18.36foxlit|MacFAAAAAIIIIIIL!
20:19.14Gryphensort of done :)
20:19.18Gryphennow im hosing it up
20:20.03Kirkburnwoah
20:20.20KirkburnAt least I got rid of the crap first :)
20:20.25Gryphenya :)
20:20.28Gryphennow im tired
20:20.50n4LRwhats the most gold a single player can have?
20:20.53KirkburnWere about 5 policy-breaking sites in total - less than I had expected
20:21.08KirkburnGryphen, noo, don't give up yet :)
20:21.12Gryphenhehe
20:21.25Gryphenill do db and blogs next
20:21.36Gryphenif someone wants to take on a section
20:21.58Gryphengoing to nuke articles in favor of summary if there is little content on their pages
20:24.22Kirkburnk
20:25.04KirkburnI'm trying to spruce up the Main sites box atm
20:28.40KirkburnI spruced it up by toning it down :)
20:33.03Gryphendang, hoped to get by without named args
20:33.31Gryphensome duplicate sites i see
20:33.41Gryphenthey just link to different sections, like tentonhammer
20:33.56KirkburnYeah, wasn't sure how to deal with that
20:34.10KirkburnEverything in general if not specific?
20:34.30Grypheni think so
20:34.45laurlytrying to convince the bot that 1 min to load a quest is to long :/
20:35.07Sky2042lol
20:38.10KirkburnGryphen, lol at your char names
20:38.12laurlyha! 5 sec!
20:38.15laurlyeat that :)
20:38.16Gryphenhehe
20:38.26Sky2042wtb bot account for APB
20:38.30Sky2042>.>
20:38.43Grypheni dont like to confuse people with who i am when on an alt :D
20:38.59Gryphenalthough it is a real pain to mail myself stuff cause i never can remember the spelling
20:38.59KirkburnGryphin, Gryphen, Grephyn, Gryphun, Grephon, Grephon, Gryphan, Griphen, Grephin, Gryphyn
20:39.06Fisker-HOLY SHIT
20:39.10Fisker-they are fucking improving rogues
20:39.13laurlyonce i get the quest bot behaiving im going to port the guild crap to another bot
20:39.16Fisker-worldfuckingfirst
20:39.20KirkburnFisker-, orly?
20:39.39KirkburnSky2042, I like to see a bot in action before I label them :)
20:39.49Sky2042http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=User:Tecnobrat/APB_Table&rcid=651918
20:39.50Fisker-according to that mmo-champion post
20:39.53KirkburnIt didn't do mine though :(
20:39.54Sky2042that work for you kirkburn?
20:39.58Sky2042touche!
20:40.02Sky2042excuse me
20:40.03Sky2042qq
20:40.06Fisker-it's a shame they didn't listen back in the beta
20:45.02Sky2042uh, where is mankrik's wife...
20:45.04Sky2042>.>
20:45.05Sky2042<.<
20:47.04Kirkburnzomg database zomg
20:47.20Sky2042i'm not actually playing, you fool.
20:48.37Kirkburn(I got a database error)
20:49.24Sky2042(lolatchu)
20:50.09Sky2042oh, i've got a question
20:50.29Sky2042or not
20:51.14Sky2042damn. wikia beats us out by 2/100 of a percent
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20:55.39KirkburnIn terms of?
20:55.45KirkburnAlexa rating?
20:56.04KirkburnThink what would happen if we started using wikia address ...
20:56.19Sky2042aleaxa
20:56.28Sky2042then we'd vall under the wikia slot...
20:56.31Sky2042>.>
20:56.33Sky2042fall*
20:56.48KirkburnAnd wikia's/our rating would get even higher
20:56.48TecnoBratwikia includes all *.wikia.com tho
20:57.08Sky2042i think i'll take that .02% with good grace; we built it up, all by our lonesome selves.
20:58.22Sky2042hmm
20:58.27Sky20422012 is gonna be in london
20:58.46Kirkburn>_>
20:58.53MatthewSkirk: db error? where?
20:58.58KirkburnThe London underground bombings occured the next day
20:58.58Sky2042lol
20:59.09foxlitl12 logo scandal!
20:59.10KirkburnSo it was somewhat less celebrated than expected
20:59.33KirkburnMatthewS, it just occured once when editing a template, didn't appear again
20:59.43MatthewShmm
20:59.54KirkburnI think it was a "lock" type error "restart transaction" and all that jazz
21:00.30Sky2042mmm, matthews, i have an issue of my own that i pointed out when we transitioned to 1.9.3 but never got fixed >.> let me see if i can dig the ss up
21:00.33KirkburnShall try and remember to screenshot next time, attaching a note saying "gief 1.10"
21:01.23KirkburnOh that reminds me, I added some little things to WW:SR - http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Server_requests
21:01.55Sky2042(matthews): http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=500492
21:02.03Sky2042note the editing bar get's moved way up
21:02.08Sky2042gets*
21:02.13Inf5good job on the macros, appreciate it
21:02.18Inf5all the classes too
21:02.24KirkburnOh I remember you telling me about that Sky2042
21:02.30Sky2042>.>
21:02.30Sky2042<.<
21:02.40KirkburnInf5, cool
21:03.00MatthewShmm, interesting
21:03.27KirkburnSky2042, I took it as referring to the macro pages?
21:03.52Sky2042well yeah, but no-one's worked on all of them... i tidied up the mage page
21:04.05KirkburnWe probably all have at some point :P
21:04.09KirkburnGryphen, are you still working on fansites?
21:04.14Gryphenon blogs
21:04.17Gryphenabout dont with that
21:04.23[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/07/06/phat-loot-phriday-the-decapitator/
21:04.25Gryphengetting sick to my stomach copy/pasting
21:04.27Gryphenabout to stop
21:04.37Kirkburnk, tell me when you're done, I can pick up
21:05.12Gryphendone
21:12.42KirkburnYay, my APB works :D
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21:25.52KirkburnHey Adys
21:25.59Adysmoo
21:27.09KirkburnKnow of many/any french Warcraft sites?
21:27.32foxlitblizzard does, doubtlessly?
21:28.16pcjisn't there a french wow wiki
21:28.58Sky2042cough |Pixel| cough
21:29.07Sky2042bah
21:29.15|Pixel|?
21:29.22KirkburnWe only list two (non wiki) french sites
21:29.32KirkburnJudgeHype and WoW-Arena
21:34.23[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.www.wowinsider.com/2007/07/06/phat-loot-phriday-the-decapitator/
21:34.23[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.www.wowinsider.com/2007/07/06/a-bot-farmer-commends-blizzard-anti-botting-measures/
21:34.23[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.www.wowinsider.com/2007/07/06/ask-wow-insider-favorite-wow-podcasts/
21:34.23[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.www.wowinsider.com/2007/07/06/arena-stats-from-the-second-season-start/
21:34.23[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.www.wowinsider.com/2007/07/06/a-quest-to-switch-sides/
21:34.48KirkburnSrsly, they need to fix that bloody RSS
21:34.57pcjhttp://www.wikiwow.com/
21:35.04pcj^^^ french WoW wiki
21:35.12KirkburnI keep getting dupes in my RSS reader
21:35.27KirkburnLinked on [[Wikis]] ;)
21:35.46KirkburnHmm, probably a good idea to put them on the other languages page too
21:36.35Kasoi recons newsbot should make it so it can only paste each link once, dispite what the RSS does
21:38.14pcjand not all at once :|
21:39.07Dottedits limited to 5
21:39.28Dottedthere would be alot more spam otherwise :p
21:39.58DottedKaso it already does that but when the link changes there isnt much i can do
21:40.19pcjwhat purpose does it serve, don't most people who want to know that stuff already have RSS clients
21:43.17Dottedepeen
21:43.46KirkburnThey do have interesting articles sometimes :)
21:44.31KirkburnWeird thing is, I don't get it with any of their other feeds (Joystiq, Nintendofanboy)
21:45.02KirkburnBtw, you'd be amazed how much more mature the comments are on WI than on Joystiq (the overall gaming blog)
21:45.29KirkburnAnything that references a console degenarates into a fanboi war
21:46.17foxlitI declare a meta-fanboi war on Kirk
21:46.20Kirkburn(there's a lot of PS lovers out there who feel personally hurt by any negative publicity, and the same for the Xbox and Wii to a lesser extent)
21:46.28foxlitYou'll be insulted for your attitude towards fanboism!
21:46.41KirkburnI respond with a remark about the size of your console!
21:46.53Fisker-consoles suck
21:47.22foxlitI counter-insult your unbelievably-big console that doesn't fit through the door.
21:47.38Fisker-I WON THE CONSOLE WAR
21:47.42Fisker-by insulting all of you
21:48.15foxlitCall me back when White Knight is out on a PC :)
21:48.59laurlyoh crap midnight and i just found a new bug :/
21:50.05Fisker-what is white night btw?
21:50.09Fisker-err
21:50.10Fisker-white knight
21:51.30KirkburnY'know, when they made the LotrO wiki, they really forgot about accessibility :/
21:51.31foxlithttp://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=13330&type=mov
21:51.45foxlitScrew accessibility, not like the books are accessible!
21:52.33KirkburnThey also seem to feel that categories are the place for some articles
21:52.55pcjhow long does it take after application before people are added to the watchdog group
21:53.29KirkburnDepends on how long until you get my attention
21:54.17pcjthat's not what it says
21:54.43Dottedbut it's what it means
21:55.06KirkburnWoah
21:55.14KirkburnI had no idea there were so many applications
21:55.18Sky2042lol
21:55.31Dottedthats just disturbing
21:55.55KirkburnI haven't looked at the community stuff recently :/
21:56.00DottedFAIL
21:56.09KirkburnI'll make a big note to remind myself
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21:57.49Fisker-foxlit no blood :(
21:58.14Fisker-it did raise an eyebrow, but only teal'c-wise
21:58.45KirkburnGryphen, hey, didn't see you catgorise me :P
21:58.51Gryphen:)
22:01.04laurlyanyone seen the transformers moveie yet?
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22:03.57Dottedno, just waiting for the pirated release *evul grin* :D
22:04.23[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/07/06/the-care-and-feeding-of-warriors-if-you-build-it/
22:04.24Sky2042lol
22:07.52KasoIf you dont see in in cinemas you'll ,miss the awesome "secret" trailer dotted!
22:08.31Dottedomg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg
22:08.40Kasoomg!
22:08.56DottedTO THE CINEMACAVE!
22:09.44Dottedhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wynk5cnxTfk this is win tho
22:09.55Dottedin the meantime ofc
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22:14.25Dottedhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yg8pAPCq-SE Fisker- thats you
22:19.22Dottednvm that was Kirkburn, Fisker- this is you http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFbEBVuVHZc
22:20.29laurlycan only find cam versions of it :/
22:20.35laurlynight guys
22:20.51Dottedexactly
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22:46.53[NewsBot]MMO Champion: Bad Omen kills Illidan, two new loots. - http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=428.0
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22:54.23[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/07/06/should-multiboxing-be-illegal/
22:58.40GnarfozI hate charsets.
23:00.29Sky2042lol
23:00.34Sky2042blizzard misspelled canceled
23:11.04DottedGnarfoz if all else faild default to UTF-8
23:11.22Sky2042ugh
23:11.23Sky2042foxlit
23:11.40Sky2042someone broke lootbox (did you?)
23:12.00GnarfozDotted: worst idea, ever
23:12.00Gnarfoz:p
23:12.09Dottedwhy?
23:12.43Gnarfozbecause it seems it's still not usable everywhere, like iso-8859-1 is
23:12.50Gnarfoz(hence my hate >_<)
23:13.06Devilkoulhttp://www.chrisknox.com/arcanedmg_lol.JPG
23:13.07Devilkoulhaha
23:13.57foxlitSky2042: check history?
23:14.05Sky2042lol devilkoul, fuck
23:14.09Devilkoul:D
23:14.15Sky2042did you see that post on the mage forums? arcane's viable :X
23:14.23Devilkoul3996 hit
23:14.25foxlit{{Lootbox}} shouldn't be broken, what' sup?
23:14.31Devilkoularcane = end game
23:14.35Sky2042missing has the linking issue again
23:14.41Sky2042well, deep arcane is what the post was about
23:14.43Sky204241+
23:14.45Devilkoulya
23:14.48Gnarfozgot a clear chain of utf-8 from file to browser, yet still I get black blocks with question marks for even the simplest of umlauts :\ anyway, it's just for a private little holiday blog, so I'm just using 8859-1 and escaping everything to html entities...
23:14.53foxlitCan't do anything abou that, unfortunately
23:14.57foxlitTry avoiding newlines
23:14.58Sky2042blgh
23:14.58Gnarfozthought I'd give using utf-8 a try ^^
23:15.03Sky2042ah yes
23:15.09Devilkouland atleast 2 piece tier5
23:15.26Devilkoulhttp://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Nathrezim&n=Devilkoul
23:16.41Sky2042yeah
23:16.45Sky2042that was the assumption also
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23:16.59Sky20422k dmg to arcane... fuck
23:17.09Devilkoulon lurker he popped out i drank a destro pot and pom pyro'd him for 9200 rofl... was like ok this is starting out well :D
23:17.25Sky20429200?
23:17.27Sky2042fuck
23:17.28Sky2042lol
23:17.34Sky2042full raid buffs and dmg
23:17.36Sky2042weeeeee
23:17.38Devilkoulhehe
23:17.42Devilkoul4 truthz
23:18.15Sky2042lol
23:18.21Sky2042you logged with pw:f
23:18.51Devilkoul:P
23:21.10Sky2042:P
23:27.06Sky2042uh, gryphen
23:27.13Gryphenuh eff off
23:27.16Sky2042why can't i edit the sections on fansites?
23:27.20Sky2042:x
23:27.31Gryphencause i mediawiki loses
23:36.11Dottedhttp://hide_in_plain_sight.istheshit.net/
23:36.40Sky2042lol
23:39.44Dottedhttp://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/forums.worldofwarcraft.com/174498190.htm looool
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23:44.02Sky2042lol
23:46.23[NewsBot]GamePolitics: http://gamepolitics.com/2007/07/06/eca-announces-t-shirt-winners/
23:49.23[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/07/06/blizzard-answers-development-priorities-question/
23:52.31Sky2042wooo
23:52.48Sky2042they're finally adding to dustwallow
23:53.06foxlitdustwallow is content-rich already!
23:53.31foxlit"Bloodsong's questions are timely. People are leaving WoW..."
23:53.35foxlitout of date :(
23:53.59Sky2042lol, that article fails
23:54.11Sky2042they need to look at their warcraft realms info again

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