| 00:11.06 | Bleeter | oh, lovely.. the lies about wowhead selling out to gold farmers have started |
| 00:11.08 | Bleeter | http://blogcraftworld.blogspot.com/2007/06/wow-digger-new-thottbot-allakhazam.html |
| 00:16.16 | Sky2042 | loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool |
| 00:16.22 | Sky2042 | that is pathetic |
| 00:16.43 | foxlit | That looks oddly like AmpWow |
| 00:16.49 | foxlit | url layout and stuff |
| 00:16.55 | Sky2042 | who wants to have a look at how much i cleaned up bloodlord mandokir? |
| 00:17.08 | Sky2042 | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Bloodlord_Mandokir&diff=718348&oldid=718248 |
| 00:17.31 | Sky2042 | over 8k characters deleted ;} |
| 00:17.34 | Sky2042 | :] |
| 00:19.42 | foxlit | Slanik is the final boss of Zul'Aman! |
| 00:19.47 | Sky2042 | eh? |
| 00:19.53 | foxlit | WCRadio :) |
| 00:20.12 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 00:20.56 | Sky2042 | !wwstats |
| 00:20.57 | [NewsBot] | #wowwiki stats: http://www.bxd.dk/irc/wowwiki.html |
| 00:21.14 | Sky2042 | damnit dotted |
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| 00:24.21 | Sky2042 | welcome pcj! |
| 00:24.36 | pcj | hi |
| 00:25.45 | foxlit | Adys wasn't very popular, getting kicked 16 times! |
| 00:25.45 | foxlit | For example, like this: |
| 00:25.45 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:25.53 | Sky2042 | yeah |
| 00:25.53 | foxlit | I... see... |
| 00:25.55 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 00:26.03 | Sky2042 | he /nicked Teabing |
| 00:26.04 | Sky2042 | h |
| 00:26.43 | Bagginsww | ah hah, azerothw as named after Human's ancient ancestors the Azotha |
| 00:26.55 | Bagginsww | I knew it |
| 00:27.03 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 00:27.03 | Bagginsww | ragestorm loses again LOL |
| 00:27.05 | Sky2042 | where? |
| 00:27.12 | Bagginsww | Lands of Conflict |
| 00:27.15 | Sky2042 | ah |
| 00:27.17 | Sky2042 | oh, hmm |
| 00:27.54 | Sky2042 | quel'lithian has a translation in loc |
| 00:28.00 | Sky2042 | i think it's quel'lithian |
| 00:28.32 | Bagginsww | nah it doesn't |
| 00:28.59 | Bagginsww | Quel'danil does |
| 00:29.32 | Sky2042 | ah |
| 00:29.33 | Sky2042 | yes |
| 00:32.40 | Sky2042 | pcj |
| 00:32.54 | Sky2042 | if the item has been removed from wow, use {{removedfromgame}} |
| 00:33.06 | Sky2042 | instead of marking it sd |
| 00:33.48 | pcj | why keep it if it's removed from game |
| 00:33.55 | Sky2042 | archival purposes |
| 00:34.01 | Sky2042 | it's like the counterspell change for mages |
| 00:34.22 | Sky2042 | we just want to get all of the info |
| 00:34.31 | Sky2042 | we can stick that tag on there to tell us it isn't in the game anymore |
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| 00:42.52 | pcj | transclusions usually show up on "What links here" right |
| 00:43.21 | foxlit | Yes |
| 00:43.28 | pcj | ty |
| 00:43.42 | Sky2042 | always |
| 00:43.52 | Sky2042 | even though kirkburn has his doubts |
| 00:44.02 | Sky2042 | templates show up at the bottom of the edit screen |
| 00:44.24 | pcj | i mean things that transclude that article |
| 00:44.29 | Sky2042 | aye |
| 00:44.35 | pcj | like on http://www.wowwiki.com/Tailored/Tables/Components/White_Remedy_Cape |
| 00:45.21 | foxlit | Kill Kill Kill! |
| 00:45.29 | foxlit | Transcludable pages need to die, mostly |
| 00:45.53 | foxlit | Pages like http://www.wowwiki.com/Nordrassil_Armor make baby bots cry |
| 00:46.11 | foxlit | _all_ of the included tooltips are non-standard |
| 00:46.37 | foxlit | #doitempage Nordrassil Chestpiece |
| 00:46.38 | Foxbot | Sorry, foxlit, I can't find the item. |
| 00:48.16 | foxlit | And some of the item names are bloody wrong? |
| 00:48.16 | foxlit | Or not. |
| 00:48.16 | Sky2042 | lol foxbot got owned |
| 00:48.17 | Sky2042 | anyway, foxlit, i nkow |
| 00:48.17 | foxlit | Armory whitelist got owned, tbh |
| 00:48.17 | Sky2042 | i wish I were an admin, just for the purposes of cleaning up those pages. deletes ftw |
| 00:48.17 | pcj | kek |
| 00:48.17 | Sky2042 | i hate /tooltips |
| 00:48.17 | foxlit | Start a VfD on all of them |
| 00:48.19 | Sky2042 | VfD? |
| 00:48.20 | Sky2042 | V |
| 00:48.22 | foxlit | "Should we nuke all /Tooltip, /Cost, /Stuff pages?" |
| 00:48.22 | Sky2042 | vote |
| 00:48.28 | pcj | vote for deletion |
| 00:48.30 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 00:48.33 | Sky2042 | no, they are being deleted |
| 00:48.50 | foxlit | Then SD all of them on conclusion, linking the vote |
| 00:48.53 | Sky2042 | we just have to fix em up so that the pages linking to them are instead linking to the desired page |
| 00:49.21 | foxlit | Get me a list of /Tooltip pages |
| 00:49.37 | foxlit | And I can easily change all usages of those to redirect to proper items |
| 00:49.55 | foxlit | #doitempage Nordrassil Headpiece |
| 00:50.13 | Sky2042 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:Transcludable_Pages |
| 00:50.14 | foxlit | Great, crashed parser |
| 00:50.16 | Sky2042 | have fun |
| 00:50.40 | Sky2042 | there are a few in there which are actually used for a good purpose, fyi |
| 00:50.41 | Sky2042 | :) |
| 00:50.50 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Azotha |
| 00:50.55 | Bagginsww | just a few more to add |
| 00:51.08 | foxlit | #mload witem |
| 00:51.09 | Foxbot | Loaded [witem] |
| 00:51.11 | foxlit | #doitempage Nordrassil Headpiece |
| 00:51.15 | Foxbot | Tooltip saved, foxlit. View at: http://www.wowwiki.com/Nordrassil_Headpiece |
| 00:51.33 | Sky2042 | shit |
| 00:52.57 | Sky2042 | foxlit, does it always do the whole page? |
| 00:53.09 | foxlit | Yes. |
| 00:53.17 | Sky2042 | blgh |
| 00:53.24 | foxlit | Don't use it on top of existing articles unless you intend to overwrite |
| 00:53.24 | Sky2042 | can others use the bot? |
| 00:53.27 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 00:53.30 | foxlit | Yes. |
| 00:53.33 | Sky2042 | i was afraid you were going to say that :P |
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| 00:54.06 | pcj | heh |
| 00:54.56 | Sky2042 | #char US Shadowmoon Skyfire |
| 00:55.02 | Sky2042 | muahaha |
| 00:55.13 | Sky2042 | you really need to add the output of "Character not found" or something |
| 00:55.20 | foxlit | Oh, that's there |
| 00:55.25 | foxlit | #char US Norealm Nochar |
| 00:55.26 | Foxbot | foxlit: that is not the character you're looking for! |
| 00:55.32 | Sky2042 | then where's mine? |
| 00:55.34 | Sky2042 | -_- |
| 00:55.45 | Sky2042 | #guild Shadowmoon Eternals |
| 00:55.50 | Sky2042 | oops |
| 00:55.57 | foxlit | did you feed the bot recently? |
| 00:55.58 | Sky2042 | #guild US Shadowmoon, Eternals |
| 00:55.59 | Foxbot | Sky2042: <Eternals> on Shadowmoon has 124 members |
| 00:56.05 | Sky2042 | yes |
| 00:56.58 | Sky2042 | Skyfire as a character exists, except armory doesn't have him in it |
| 00:57.01 | Sky2042 | :] |
| 00:57.46 | foxlit | Yeah, it's odd. |
| 00:58.01 | foxlit | You exist enough to pass the "wrong name?" check, but not enough to actually have stats and stuff |
| 00:58.25 | Sky2042 | because he's not in the armory. the name is correct, it's just he's not in armory |
| 00:59.10 | foxlit | And yet |
| 00:59.19 | Sky2042 | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Shadowmoon&n=Skyfire |
| 00:59.22 | Sky2042 | :) |
| 00:59.22 | foxlit | At least your name is on the armory |
| 00:59.59 | foxlit | Haha, an armory cache miss |
| 01:00.01 | foxlit | That's cute |
| 01:01.49 | foxlit | #char EU Magtheridon Kungen |
| 01:01.50 | Foxbot | foxlit: Kungen, Level 70 Warrior (35/23/3). 11859 HP; 577 Str; 166 Agi; 9484 Armor; 1604 AP. |
| 01:02.03 | pcj | #char US Maelstrom Dernham |
| 01:02.05 | Foxbot | pcj: Dernham, Level 70 Paladin (0/61/0). 11837 HP; 4068 Mana; 254 Str; 150 Agi; 15493 Armor; +355 defense; 18.16% dodge. |
| 01:02.18 | pcj | odd |
| 01:02.38 | Litvan | #char EU Stormrage Litvan |
| 01:02.38 | Foxbot | Litvan: Litvan, Level 70 Rogue (15/41/5). 8114 HP; 492 Agi; 28.27% dodge; 1430 AP; 1272 RAP. |
| 01:03.01 | pcj | how does it pick which stats to display |
| 01:03.22 | foxlit | PidgeonRank! |
| 01:03.23 | Litvan | no idea... but tbh I don't really care about RAP on my rogue |
| 01:03.28 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 01:04.42 | foxlit | #char US Shadowmoon Skyfire |
| 01:04.42 | Foxbot | foxlit: Skyfire, Level 60 Human Mage: armory cache miss. Play more, nubstick! |
| 01:05.15 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 01:05.17 | pcj | ell oh ell |
| 01:05.19 | Sky2042 | truth |
| 01:05.32 | Sky2042 | i haven't played since dec ;P |
| 01:05.36 | foxlit | Why aren't my lifetime honorable kills displayed under Achievements? |
| 01:05.36 | foxlit | In order to have your lifetime honorable kills displayed, you must have at least 1337 honorable kills. |
| 01:05.49 | foxlit | Coincidence or conspiracy? You decide! |
| 01:08.09 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Azotha |
| 01:12.05 | Sky2042 | pcj, i'd use a new page |
| 01:12.11 | Sky2042 | such as User:Pcj/Sig |
| 01:12.13 | pcj | You would |
| 01:12.24 | Sky2042 | yup |
| 01:13.06 | Sky2042 | zomg, foxbot!!!!!!! |
| 01:13.19 | pcj | /mourn |
| 01:13.46 | foxlit | It's the default I-crashed-irrecoverably message; I actually terminated it manually |
| 01:13.58 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 01:14.28 | foxlit | Anyhow, good night. |
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| 01:25.04 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Common_%28language%29#Common_Primer_.28official_translations.29 |
| 01:25.10 | Bagginsww | azeroth added to the Common list |
| 01:25.17 | Bagginsww | now that we have a "translation" |
| 01:25.19 | Bagginsww | sorta |
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| 01:26.45 | Litvan | I don't believe you actually have a "danish" bot :) |
| 01:27.10 | Litvan | -03:12:59- ººº¹ Quit» (Foxbot) (n=Foxbot@0x573e6bae.albnxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
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| 01:34.59 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Azotha |
| 01:35.03 | Bagginsww | Kirkburn finished with that. |
| 01:35.14 | Bagginsww | Did you come across the Rhonin scanning scene? |
| 01:41.21 | Bagginsww | Kirkburn so do Night elves call the world Azeroth before or after meeting the time travelers? |
| 01:41.47 | Jer|away | time travelers? |
| 01:42.00 | Bagginsww | Wonders if there is any chance that Rhonin and company might have influences them into calling the world Azeroth |
| 01:42.48 | Bagginsww | Jer, Rhonin, Krasus, and Brox travel back to the War of the Ancients in the trilogy of the same name. |
| 01:45.15 | Jeremy2020 | oh |
| 01:45.33 | Jeremy2020 | well, welcome to jumping the shark warcraft |
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| 01:47.55 | Bleeter | hah... question in realm's trade... |
| 01:48.07 | Bleeter | "Why has Lord Bolvar got his sword going through his head?" |
| 01:52.07 | Sky2042_ | lol |
| 01:52.38 | Sky2042_ | http://www.wowwiki.com/Elemental_Lieutenants |
| 01:53.01 | Sky2042 | I'll sum some of that up in a sec |
| 01:55.34 | Sky2042 | ok |
| 01:55.46 | Sky2042 | bagginsww, big thing just lit up for me |
| 01:55.53 | Bagginsww | ya? |
| 01:56.03 | Sky2042 | i thought the DI dwarves were the captives of Ragnaros now, not the other way around... |
| 01:56.05 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Mok%27Nathal_Clan watch that page if Zarnks goes for t :p |
| 01:56.18 | Bagginsww | you didn't know they released ragnaros? |
| 01:56.19 | pcj | they are... |
| 01:56.27 | Sky2042 | they released him |
| 01:56.34 | Sky2042 | but didn't he posess them |
| 01:56.34 | Sky2042 | ? |
| 01:56.36 | Bagginsww | they released him and he did enslave them |
| 01:56.38 | pcj | dark iron released him but he captured them |
| 01:56.41 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 01:56.51 | Bagginsww | they were given "gifts" |
| 01:57.08 | Sky2042 | lolgifts. what gifts? |
| 01:57.17 | Bagginsww | the skin color and hair |
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| 01:57.31 | Sky2042 | where does it say those are gifts? :/ |
| 01:57.35 | Bagginsww | anycase for a few hundred years they couldn't even go the surface |
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| 01:57.47 | Bagginsww | only recently have a few been allowed to the surface by rag |
| 01:57.53 | Bagginsww | the rpg |
| 01:58.32 | Sky2042 | which one does it say they were "gifts". I know it was him who bestowed those particular traits on them... |
| 01:58.39 | Sky2042 | LoC actually says that |
| 01:58.47 | Bagginsww | and MG |
| 01:59.25 | Bagginsww | Dark Iron dwarves easily stand out from the other two clans. They physically resemble Bronzebeard dwarves, but they are less stocky and more dextrous. Their skin is pale white to sickly gray, and their hair and beards are white, black, or orange. Their eyes glow with orange flame - one of many gifts from their fiery master, Ragnaros |
| 01:59.29 | Bagginsww | -mg |
| 01:59.55 | Sky2042 | ah |
| 02:00.06 | Sky2042 | metaphorical gifts, as in sarcasm, i think |
| 02:06.38 | Litvan | anyone here who knows a lil something about ace2 addon programming?? (ppl in #wowace isn't awake atm) |
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| 02:08.08 | Sky2042 | um, maybe tekkub? |
| 02:09.22 | Tekkub | I'm no longer in #wowace |
| 02:09.33 | Tekkub | and you'll see why in their forum shortly |
| 02:09.48 | Bagginsww | sky I don't know why you did it but you quoted a page reference guide :p |
| 02:09.58 | Bagginsww | I always leave those out if possible LOL |
| 02:10.18 | Bagginsww | the kind of thing like "see such and sauch page for further information" |
| 02:10.19 | Bagginsww | quoytes |
| 02:11.46 | Sky2042 | huh? |
| 02:11.54 | Sky2042 | oh that |
| 02:11.57 | Sky2042 | heh |
| 02:12.09 | Sky2042 | which page did i leave that on? |
| 02:13.44 | Sky2042 | give me a second silly |
| 02:13.46 | Sky2042 | :P |
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| 02:21.08 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Mok%27Nathal_Clan#Languages |
| 02:21.14 | Bagginsww | see told you |
| 02:21.15 | Bagginsww | zarnks :p |
| 02:21.44 | Sky2042 | yeah |
| 02:22.01 | Sky2042 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Elemental_Lieutenants |
| 02:22.03 | Sky2042 | :) |
| 02:22.19 | Bagginsww | sky that is a major improvement :) |
| 02:22.26 | Sky2042 | no more stubbage! |
| 02:22.31 | Bagginsww | not it doesn't look like it came from an RPG LOL |
| 02:22.52 | Sky2042 | huh? |
| 02:23.11 | Sky2042 | try saying that again? |
| 02:23.13 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 02:23.48 | Bagginsww | I mean you avoided using the "ability" terms |
| 02:23.53 | Bagginsww | especially as headings |
| 02:23.58 | Bagginsww | isntead flowed it into a narrative |
| 02:24.17 | Sky2042 | :) |
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| 02:25.11 | Bagginsww | also um the book discusses elemental lords and elemental lieutenants |
| 02:25.28 | Bagginsww | I thought hte lords were the 4 major guys |
| 02:25.34 | Bagginsww | and gal ;p |
| 02:25.35 | Sky2042 | they are the same |
| 02:25.44 | Sky2042 | :/ |
| 02:25.50 | Sky2042 | we've had this discussion before |
| 02:25.54 | Sky2042 | the terms are interchangeable |
| 02:26.15 | Bagginsww | book uses both in the same sentence as seperate beings :p |
| 02:26.21 | Bagginsww | ine one location :p |
| 02:26.41 | Bagginsww | somethign about hte lietenants answering to the lords :p |
| 02:26.50 | Sky2042 | queeeeeer |
| 02:27.13 | Sky2042 | you find that, then I'll tweak it :P |
| 02:27.17 | Bagginsww | ok |
| 02:27.21 | Bagginsww | but gott raid now :p |
| 02:27.24 | Sky2042 | but in-game they are cited as lieutenants, not lords |
| 02:27.26 | Sky2042 | lolraid |
| 02:27.28 | Sky2042 | l2p |
| 02:27.39 | Bagginsww | in anycasse even if they were the same thing I'd prefer lords to be the main article |
| 02:27.49 | Bagginsww | as it is the more common term :) |
| 02:28.11 | Sky2042 | only in the RPG |
| 02:28.21 | Sky2042 | i've always known them as lieutenants |
| 02:28.23 | Bagginsww | actually warcraft III too I think |
| 02:28.38 | Sky2042 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Elemental_Lord |
| 02:28.39 | Sky2042 | >.> |
| 02:29.09 | Sky2042 | i'll go dig up the quests offered by hydraxis |
| 02:29.32 | Bagginsww | I think I ran into references to Elemental Lord in WoW too |
| 02:32.08 | Sky2042 | and wowhead died |
| 02:32.10 | Sky2042 | -_- |
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| 02:34.39 | Sky2042 | hmm |
| 02:36.24 | Bagginsww | but ya even if was only lieutenent in wow that doesn't mean its correct |
| 02:36.33 | Bagginsww | Metzen is in charge of it all |
| 02:36.43 | Sky2042 | true |
| 02:36.45 | Bagginsww | and S&L came out after WoW |
| 02:36.52 | Sky2042 | you're very welcome to take him up about the issue |
| 02:36.54 | Sky2042 | :P |
| 02:37.07 | Bagginsww | its specifriclaly lord in all the later books too |
| 02:37.29 | Sky2042 | http://www.google.com/custom?domains=wowwiki.com&q=elemental+lieutenant&sitesearch=wowwiki.com&sa=Search&client=pub-4086838842346968&forid=1&channel=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&cof=GALT%3A%2346ABFF%3BGL%3A1%3BDIV%3A%23EEEEEE%3BVLC%3A4274FF%3BAH%3Acenter%3BBGC%3A333333%3BLBGC%3AFFFF99%3BALC%3A46ABFF%3BLC%3A46ABFF%3BT%3AEEEEEE%3BGFNT%3AAAAAAA%3BGIMP%3AAAAAAA%3BLH%3A100%3BLW%3A100%3BL%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.wowwiki.com%2Fskins%2Fcommon%2Fimages%2Fwi |
| 02:37.41 | Bagginsww | also lieutenant is very low position fo power :p |
| 02:37.44 | Sky2042 | http://www.google.com/custom?hl=en&safe=off&client=pub-4086838842346968&cof=FORID%3A1%3BGL%3A1%3BS%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.wowwiki.com%2F%3BL%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.wowwiki.com%2Fskins%2Fcommon%2Fimages%2Fwiki-100.jpg%3BLH%3A100%3BLW%3A100%3BLBGC%3AFFFF99%3BLP%3A1%3BBGC%3A%23333333%3BT%3A%23eeeeee%3BLC%3A%2346abff%3BVLC%3A%234274ff%3BGALT%3A%2346ABFF%3BGFNT%3A%23aaaaaa%3BGIMP%3A%23aaaaaa%3BDIV%3A%23EEEEEE%3B&domains=wowwiki.com&q=elemental+lo |
| 02:37.49 | Sky2042 | pft |
| 02:37.58 | Sky2042 | not exactly like lord's that higher either |
| 02:38.12 | Bagginsww | actually it is |
| 02:38.15 | Bagginsww | nobility :) |
| 02:38.19 | Bagginsww | is greater than military |
| 02:38.28 | Sky2042 | depends on where you're from... |
| 02:38.59 | Sky2042 | almost the entirety of the site references lieutenant, as opposed to lord |
| 02:39.12 | Bagginsww | entirely of wowwiki? |
| 02:39.12 | Sky2042 | (first was a search for lieutenant, the second for lord) |
| 02:39.15 | Sky2042 | yuh huh |
| 02:39.20 | Bagginsww | it just needs to be fixed :p |
| 02:39.33 | Sky2042 | looooooool |
| 02:39.39 | Sky2042 | don't you dare pull a teabingh on us |
| 02:39.58 | Bagginsww | first off I'd put both listings |
| 02:40.13 | Bagginsww | elemental lord and elemental lietenant |
| 02:40.30 | Sky2042 | in the npc box? |
| 02:40.32 | Sky2042 | >.> |
| 02:40.35 | Sky2042 | or lore box, i guess |
| 02:40.40 | Bagginsww | ya |
| 02:41.00 | Sky2042 | blgh |
| 02:41.06 | Sky2042 | hasn't rage yelled at you for that before |
| 02:42.06 | Sky2042 | let's see... |
| 02:42.19 | Sky2042 | i'ma go after neptulon now. |
| 02:45.07 | Bagginsww | actually I think its possible that Lietenent us their position under the old gods |
| 02:45.13 | Bagginsww | and lord is their position over elementals |
| 02:46.45 | Sky2042 | mmm |
| 02:46.51 | Sky2042 | now that's not unplausible |
| 02:48.28 | Bagginsww | but ya lord is apparently their "racial" name |
| 02:48.47 | Bagginsww | My suggestion race box them |
| 02:49.08 | Bagginsww | and use "Lietenants" as the subtitle you enjoy so much |
| 02:49.25 | Sky2042 | pft |
| 02:49.30 | Sky2042 | Lieutenant > Lord |
| 02:49.45 | Sky2042 | i'll send that to rage |
| 02:49.54 | Sky2042 | else i'm never going to agree to something >_< |
| 02:53.42 | Bagginsww | Leutenant > greater than lord? how so? |
| 02:53.58 | Sky2042 | my personal preference :P |
| 02:57.29 | Bagginsww | you won't like me when I hit up the citations, :) |
| 02:57.37 | Bagginsww | but that's later |
| 02:57.54 | Sky2042 | you can cite it, (and you better be looking for citations for either PoV), and I'm a happy man |
| 02:58.06 | Sky2042 | obviously, S&L uses Lords |
| 02:59.14 | Bagginsww | ya, not only book or source I"m sure |
| 02:59.27 | Sky2042 | hydraxis uses the term "Waterlord", but that seems only to apply to his stature as a duke |
| 03:00.19 | TecnoBrat | so my gf moved out .. and I've been using this shitty ass 17" CRT as my 2nd monitor instead of my other 19" LCD |
| 03:00.24 | TecnoBrat | for like 3 weeks |
| 03:00.27 | TecnoBrat | wow I'm dumb |
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| 03:00.41 | Sky2042 | idiot |
| 03:00.42 | Sky2042 | :P |
| 03:01.03 | TecnoBrat | now I got 2x19" LCDs |
| 03:01.14 | TecnoBrat | its golden now |
| 03:01.30 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+v cladhaire] by ChanServ |
| 03:01.34 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 03:01.55 | Sky2042 | cladhaire, what are you doing? you aren't at work, not sleeping... jesus. I feel so lost not knowing what you're doing |
| 03:02.01 | TecnoBrat | and a new computer chair that reclines |
| 03:02.02 | cladhaire | :P |
| 03:02.10 | Sky2042 | nice tecno |
| 03:02.42 | TecnoBrat | needs to say "cladhaire|irc" |
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| 03:02.52 | GuR|Heckondor | hi |
| 03:02.57 | GuR|Heckondor | can anybody help me ? |
| 03:03.18 | clad|sleep | Sky2042: :P |
| 03:03.29 | GuR|Heckondor | how can i get this function running in wow: /ToggleAutoRun(); |
| 03:03.39 | Kaydeethree | you can't |
| 03:03.42 | Kaydeethree | it's fully protected |
| 03:03.57 | Kaydeethree | the only way we can access that is via the keybindings menu |
| 03:04.13 | GuR|Heckondor | damn |
| 03:04.27 | Sky2042 | loool |
| 03:04.34 | Sky2042 | i hope we aren't trying to make a bot :P |
| 03:04.46 | Kaydeethree | you're better-served asking API questions in #wowi-lounge or #wowace, just as an fyi |
| 03:05.11 | GuR|Heckondor | k thx |
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| 03:06.42 | Sky2042 | jesus clad|sleep, are you sleeping or not?! make up your mind! |
| 03:06.59 | pcj | Hah |
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| 03:07.12 | clad|sleep | lol |
| 03:07.14 | clad|sleep | i'm working on something |
| 03:07.16 | clad|sleep | have one more disconnect to do |
| 03:07.23 | Sky2042 | then you aren't sleeping, eh?! |
| 03:07.33 | Sky2042 | :P |
| 03:08.29 | clad|sleep | will be momentarily =) |
| 03:09.13 | Sky2042 | pft |
| 03:09.36 | clad|sleep | there we go. |
| 03:11.43 | Sky2042 | jeez |
| 03:12.07 | Sky2042 | why does neptulon have so much more than al'akir, but nowhere does it mention his battle with ragnaros, bagginsww? |
| 03:14.37 | Bagginsww | I have no idea how they figure rpg stats |
| 03:14.44 | Bagginsww | I tend to ignore them boring |
| 03:21.51 | Bagginsww | no idea |
| 03:24.21 | Bagginsww | talks about his battles |
| 03:24.25 | Bagginsww | later in the book |
| 03:24.35 | Bagginsww | in abyssal maw article |
| 03:30.18 | Sky2042 | ok, who broke wowhead? |
| 03:30.51 | Litvan | they're prolly doing something to it in terms of them being bought last friday |
| 03:32.00 | Sky2042 | they could've left a note on the front page ;( |
| 03:33.32 | pcj | doomhammer fails at WW:GUILD |
| 03:33.43 | Sky2042 | WW:GUILD was probably around after doomhammer |
| 03:33.46 | Sky2042 | ;) |
| 03:33.56 | Sky2042 | we didn't have specific policy before about 2 months ago |
| 03:34.59 | Sky2042 | loldeadmines |
| 03:36.32 | Sky2042 | i need food :/ |
| 03:44.09 | Sky2042 | hmm |
| 03:44.14 | Sky2042 | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Aspect_Shards&curid=104116&diff=718653&oldid=674254&rcid=634247 |
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| 04:19.41 | TecnoBrat | wowhead down for anyone else? |
| 04:20.33 | Sky2042 | aye |
| 04:22.36 | TecnoBrat | damn |
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| 04:29.05 | Sky2042 | jerk |
| 04:29.14 | Sky2042 | reverted my neptulon additions :( |
| 04:32.38 | Bagginsww | convert hte intro out of first person please LOL |
| 04:33.18 | Bagginsww | the description setence I mean |
| 04:33.38 | Sky2042 | i will |
| 04:33.49 | Sky2042 | i want to get all the info out of the book first though |
| 04:34.46 | Bagginsww | eh that's why I do the editing in word |
| 04:34.55 | Bagginsww | so there isn't too many edits |
| 04:34.56 | Sky2042 | lolword |
| 04:34.58 | Sky2042 | eh |
| 04:35.07 | Bagginsww | wordpad actually :p |
| 04:35.07 | Sky2042 | noted |
| 04:35.15 | Sky2042 | word...pad? |
| 04:35.22 | Sky2042 | notepad? or wordpad? |
| 04:35.41 | Bagginsww | either |
| 04:35.57 | Sky2042 | ah |
| 04:35.58 | Bagginsww | until recently I lost my copy of office |
| 04:36.04 | Bagginsww | its finlaly shown up |
| 04:36.07 | Bagginsww | I just haen' reinstalled |
| 04:36.59 | Bagginsww | cause really some of the stuff you put up looks silly, if you don't get it converted before hand LOL |
| 04:37.13 | Bagginsww | and you don't want to make the rpg authors look bad :p |
| 04:37.33 | Sky2042 | >.> |
| 04:37.34 | Sky2042 | <.< |
| 04:42.41 | Sky2042 | btw, i like the intro. Al'Akir is the same |
| 04:45.28 | Bagginsww | I always convert the intros out of first person into 3rd person |
| 04:45.43 | Bagginsww | for style |
| 04:46.45 | Sky2042 | bah |
| 04:46.48 | Sky2042 | you're no fun |
| 04:46.56 | Sky2042 | leave something of a taste of the rpg |
| 04:47.44 | Bagginsww | eh I try to keep things to wiki style. first person is usually frowned upon, especially articles that switch in and out of pov |
| 04:47.55 | Sky2042 | true |
| 04:48.23 | Sky2042 | but it isn't the first time i've left it in the first person; there are other examples out there |
| 04:49.28 | Bagginsww | well if I find them I'll be converting them :p |
| 04:50.20 | Sky2042 | uh huh |
| 04:50.27 | Sky2042 | now what would that serve the purpose of? |
| 04:51.53 | Bagginsww | keeping style |
| 04:51.54 | TecnoBrat | makes him feel good |
| 04:56.59 | Sky2042 | huh |
| 04:57.16 | Sky2042 | shouldn't it be "Dark Iron dwarf" as opposed to "Dark Iron Dwarf" |
| 04:57.18 | Sky2042 | bagginsww |
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| 04:58.49 | Bagginsww | erm ya |
| 04:58.54 | Bagginsww | DId |
| 05:00.29 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 05:00.40 | Sky2042 | ack |
| 05:01.09 | Bagginsww | did I typo somewhere? |
| 05:01.49 | Sky2042 | lol no |
| 05:01.52 | Sky2042 | i just have issues |
| 05:02.21 | Sky2042 | can you move http://www.wowwiki.com/Dark_Iron_Dwarf to http://www.wowwiki.com/Dark_Iron_dwarf for me? :/ |
| 05:02.48 | Bagginsww | you moved it? |
| 05:02.51 | Bagginsww | Lawl |
| 05:05.54 | Bagginsww | do me a favor sky if you see any articles that have statistics |
| 05:06.13 | Bagginsww | delete hte statistics and use the {{For|}} command |
| 05:06.23 | Bagginsww | to link them to unit or structures pages |
| 05:06.32 | Bagginsww | and move the stuff over to them too if you can |
| 05:07.24 | Bagginsww | LOL I found a reference to them being called elemental princes |
| 05:07.29 | Bagginsww | but it was lower case |
| 05:07.41 | Bagginsww | Lord is always upercase |
| 05:15.35 | Bagginsww | hah abassador infernus is an elemental lietenant |
| 05:15.39 | Bagginsww | to ragnaros :) |
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| 05:42.29 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/War_of_the_Three_Hammers_(History_of_Warcraft) IN-game book that puts the implication of "elemental lord" on ragnaros |
| 05:42.40 | Bagginsww | calling him the "immortal lord" of fire elementals |
| 05:47.41 | Bagginsww | geddon and garr are called his lieutenants in MG too |
| 05:49.41 | Bagginsww | additinally references to "elemental lieutenant" seem to be lower case in the RPG, where as Elemental Lord is upper case |
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| 08:00.47 | Fisker- | O_o |
| 08:01.06 | Fisker- | http://developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/lettersnshityo.JPG <-nice compression |
| 08:02.35 | Fisker- | i'm wondering what they're hiding in there |
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| 08:14.27 | tejing | has anyone really figured out Crezax's post about weapon skill yet? took me a while but I have an idea now that MIGHT fit with all the data I've seen, as well as his post, but I'm wondering if someone's got it worked out already |
| 08:15.03 | Fisker- | i figured it out: He doesn't have a clue |
| 08:15.05 | Fisker- | ~ |
| 08:15.22 | tejing | lol |
| 08:15.49 | tejing | this section spawned the idea I have tho: http://www.wowwiki.com/Formulas:Weapon_Skill#Chance_to_Hit |
| 08:16.26 | tejing | if that's correct, then the miss chance part of his post agrees, what if the other %ages follow similar patterns? |
| 08:18.15 | Fisker- | dunno :P |
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| 08:19.30 | thornskin | hey guys can anyone help me with a shaman macro ? |
| 08:20.18 | tejing | thornskin: I'll give it a shot if you tell me what you want the macro to do :-P |
| 08:21.41 | thornskin | i use sequence cast macro for totems |
| 08:21.53 | thornskin | and i just got the trinket from a quest in ST |
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| 08:22.06 | thornskin | so could you help me to set it to work like that : |
| 08:22.24 | thornskin | if trinket will have cooldown, macro will cast mana spring totem... |
| 08:22.30 | thornskin | ill show you full macro |
| 08:23.09 | thornskin | sec |
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| 08:24.00 | tejing | I don't believe it's possible to switch actions based off the cooldown of a spell or item :-( |
| 08:24.02 | thornskin | :/ |
| 08:25.22 | thornskin | ehh |
| 08:25.28 | thornskin | its going bad now ;f |
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| 08:28.08 | decimad | Hello there, i've been trying to understand the SetPoint methods of wow widgets the last hours or so but don't get it... Is somebody willing to answer some questions about this topic? Thanks |
| 08:32.24 | thornskin | anyone else famillar with macros ? |
| 08:32.55 | Fisker- | decimad try #wowi-lounge or #wowace |
| 08:32.56 | decimad | oops, i just read i should better ask elsewhere, sorry for spam |
| 08:33.13 | decimad | thanks for pointer |
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| 10:46.15 | Litvan | and the bot is back |
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| 12:00.15 | [NewsBot] | MMO Champion: I'm slacking ! slacking ! And I hope you're slacking too ! - http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=354.0 |
| 12:00.23 | Fisker- | OLD NEWS [NewsBot] |
| 12:00.26 | Fisker- | Dotted |
| 12:00.26 | Bibi | omg |
| 12:00.29 | Bibi | [NewsBot] is slacking |
| 12:00.33 | Fisker- | rename him [OldNewsBot] |
| 12:00.45 | Bibi | Dotted |
| 12:00.53 | Bibi | rename him [ICantCodeaDecentBot] |
| 12:01.53 | Dotted | say the guy who oesnt know HTML |
| 12:01.56 | Dotted | FAIL! |
| 12:02.01 | Dotted | *doesnt |
| 12:02.17 | Bibi | La critique est facile, l'art est difficile ! |
| 12:03.04 | Fisker- | HTML is pretty much fail itself |
| 12:03.06 | Dotted | Bibi your site is art? LOL its made of puke :( |
| 12:03.13 | Fisker- | so learning HTML would be fail |
| 12:03.36 | Dotted | Fisker- its fail when you use HTML in a doctyped XHTML file |
| 12:04.14 | Dotted | which Bibi does |
| 12:04.15 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/06/26/breakfast-topic-top-ten-wow-goals/ |
| 12:04.37 | Bibi | yeah, blame Bibi |
| 12:04.45 | Dotted | its your site, you get the blame |
| 12:04.48 | Dotted | deal with it |
| 12:04.54 | Bibi | That's what most people do anyway, blame the french |
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| 12:05.20 | Dotted | why shouldnt we blame the french? you are the reason for everything bad in the world :( |
| 12:05.52 | Bibi | I thought it was the russians |
| 12:05.52 | Bibi | :( |
| 12:06.23 | Fprefect | nothing wrong with Coquilles St.Jacques tbh ;) |
| 12:06.35 | Bibi | Champagne ! |
| 12:06.52 | Fprefect | actually I'm not much of a fan of that :P |
| 12:07.07 | Dotted | [Bibi]: I thought it was the russians <- they are trying, but obviously the french are by far superior in evilness |
| 12:07.16 | Fprefect | a proper cognac or armagnac though.. ;) |
| 12:07.34 | Bibi | [14:06:31] <Dotted> [Bibi]: obviously the french are by far superior. |
| 12:07.36 | Bibi | TOPIC TOPIC TOPIC |
| 12:08.23 | Dotted | At lyve er nemt, sandheden er en kunst :/ |
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| 12:28.14 | Kirkburn|afk | Woo! http://www.number-10.gov.uk/output/Page12021.asp |
| 12:29.52 | Kirkburn|afk | (summary for those not bothered to read it all: UK gov tells ID and Creationists to get out of the classroom) |
| 12:30.09 | Fprefect | The Government is clear that creationism and intelligent design are not part of the science National Curriculum programmes of study and should not be taught as science |
| 12:30.36 | Fprefect | good job - 70% of americans now think creationism is the real deal =/ |
| 12:30.56 | Fprefect | or "Intelligent Design" |
| 12:31.12 | Bibi | The great wowhead exodus started |
| 12:31.19 | winkiller | it's down? |
| 12:31.21 | Fprefect | to where? |
| 12:31.23 | winkiller | or what you mean Bibi |
| 12:31.32 | Bibi | nop, tons of people licking wowdigger's ass. |
| 12:31.42 | winkiller | looks awful |
| 12:31.49 | winkiller | and not shiny |
| 12:31.50 | Bibi | "OH LOOK ! IT'S LIKE WOWHEAD BUT WITHOUT ADS !" |
| 12:32.06 | winkiller | wowwiki sold out, wowhead. :P |
| 12:32.09 | winkiller | WHAT NEXT? |
| 12:32.14 | Bibi | MMO-Champion |
| 12:32.19 | winkiller | zomg |
| 12:32.31 | winkiller | Bibi why your readers comment so few? |
| 12:32.50 | Bibi | because I make sure that the comment link is small enough to not have to moderate a stupidly high amount of flame |
| 12:32.58 | winkiller | haha |
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| 13:59.11 | Kirkburn|afk | Wow - http://www.neatorama.com/2007/06/26/sales-pitch/ |
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| 14:04.15 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/06/26/around-azeroth-learning-the-language/ |
| 14:04.27 | Hobinheim|work | hey does anyone want cherries |
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| 14:04.38 | Hobinheim|work | just swing by my desk at work if you want some |
| 14:05.24 | Xyls | Ok.... |
| 14:05.41 | Shmoo | My family was persecuted by roaming bands of pitted fruit gypsies as a child. Cherries frighten me. |
| 14:05.44 | Shmoo | True story |
| 14:08.26 | Hobinheim|work | my family was molested by a rogue cherry in the wind, hit my sister in the eye, true story |
| 14:09.17 | Shmoo | O_o |
| 14:09.19 | Shmoo | indeed |
| 14:09.45 | Xyls | I think cherries are bitter to be honest. =/ |
| 14:10.27 | Shmoo | You try being portrayed as a renegade fruit faction with a penchant for molestation and gypsy affiliation and see if you don't become a wee bitter yourself. |
| 14:10.33 | Shmoo | Completely understandable, imho |
| 14:11.33 | Xyls | Oh god theres a tom cat outside my window better chase it before it sprays! |
| 14:12.36 | Shmoo | Go outside, piss on the window yourself. |
| 14:12.44 | Shmoo | Most likely won't help, but you can at least be first. |
| 14:13.22 | Xyls | Back! |
| 14:13.42 | Xyls | What the hell. I wouldn't mind my piss because I can't smell it. However tom cat pee REAKS! |
| 14:15.06 | Xyls | Gtg |
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| 14:24.15 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/06/26/wowhead-down-implementing-gear-profiles/ |
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| 14:37.52 | winkiller | any comments regarding http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Titles ? |
| 14:39.09 | foxlit | Yank (Honor System (pre-2.0)) |
| 14:39.09 | foxlit | Retrieved from "http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Titles" |
| 14:39.35 | foxlit | Mark Conqueror horde and justicar alliance |
| 14:39.52 | Hobinheim|work | the bottom part shouldn't be there... |
| 14:39.53 | winkiller | ah yes, forgot that |
| 14:39.56 | Hobinheim|work | and they should be centered... |
| 14:40.00 | Hobinheim|work | and use dots to seperate them |
| 14:40.09 | Hobinheim|work | because they're listy |
| 14:40.15 | winkiller | which bottom part? |
| 14:40.15 | Hobinheim|work | see the zone templates |
| 14:40.18 | winkiller | you can't just ignore pvp ranks |
| 14:40.19 | Hobinheim|work | the honor system pre 2.0 |
| 14:40.32 | winkiller | and I can't reproduce PvP_Rankings |
| 14:40.56 | Hobinheim|work | those should be mentioned in an article talking about PvP titles |
| 14:41.03 | Hobinheim|work | but for the nav bar itself, it shouldn't be there |
| 14:41.08 | foxlit | http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Titles |
| 14:41.09 | foxlit | There |
| 14:41.22 | foxlit | There's something slightly wrong with your table too |
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| 14:42.13 | winkiller | yeah, just fiying it |
| 14:42.24 | foxlit | http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Titles |
| 14:42.29 | foxlit | Fixed and stuff :) |
| 14:43.02 | foxlit | Though dots would probably be better than tables |
| 14:43.17 | foxlit | Since centering is odd for some columns |
| 14:44.30 | winkiller | i am about to do it, but someone edited. |
| 14:44.58 | foxlit | I'm in your wikiz, messing with your templatez |
| 14:45.28 | winkiller | yep |
| 14:45.33 | winkiller | should be mch better now |
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| 14:48.34 | Hobinheim|work | who's flotsam? |
| 14:48.45 | Hobinheim|work | nuked my edit >=( |
| 14:48.56 | Hobinheim|work | winkiller!!! :argh: |
| 14:49.04 | Hobinheim|work | jk. we essentially had the same idea |
| 14:49.22 | foxlit | Hey, you removed PvP titles :) |
| 14:49.27 | Hobinheim|work | yes, yes i did |
| 14:49.30 | foxlit | They should be on there in some form. |
| 14:49.44 | Hobinheim|work | the original intent for the nav templates is that it should bind together pages that are equal in some way |
| 14:49.53 | Hobinheim|work | the pvp ranking page isn't a title in and of itself |
| 14:50.02 | winkiller | but you can't name all |
| 14:50.05 | foxlit | It is a collection of titles |
| 14:50.15 | foxlit | Each one of those titles singularely would have this navtemplate |
| 14:50.21 | Hobinheim|work | i thought pvp titles were obsolete anyway |
| 14:50.21 | winkiller | it's short for: "30 "obsolete" titles" |
| 14:50.22 | foxlit | Combined, they'd still have the navtemplate. |
| 14:50.34 | foxlit | Hobinheim|work: They can't be acquired, but you still see them. |
| 14:50.35 | winkiller | well, most people display them |
| 14:50.43 | winkiller | at least on my server |
| 14:50.57 | foxlit | You may as well say that "Scarab Lord" is obsolete. |
| 14:52.08 | winkiller | so, any idea how to agree? pvp ranks definitely have to be in there |
| 14:52.15 | Hobinheim|work | =( |
| 14:52.21 | winkiller | as it just what I was missing, a usefil overview of all titles |
| 14:52.56 | winkiller | technically I agree that we should list all 29 titles |
| 14:53.08 | winkiller | but there's no space. so one link to pvp rankings page |
| 14:53.18 | foxlit | Revert Hobin's edit :) |
| 14:53.58 | winkiller | you ok with that Hobin? |
| 14:57.35 | foxlit | Although, tbh |
| 14:57.44 | foxlit | Kill all individual title pages and redirect to http://www.wowwiki.com/Titles |
| 14:58.57 | foxlit | They're minor at best anyway, may just have a central location for all of them and kill two wabbits with the same stone. |
| 14:59.28 | winkiller | agreed partly |
| 14:59.38 | winkiller | but why did I make the shiny footer thingy then? :( |
| 15:00.04 | winkiller | I agree if you clean up /Title, foxlit |
| 15:00.05 | winkiller | :P |
| 15:00.50 | foxlit | Hm. |
| 15:00.58 | foxlit | That calls for some vanity screenshots |
| 15:01.29 | foxlit | But I can do that |
| 15:01.42 | winkiller | lol http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:User_SpellOrg |
| 15:01.54 | winkiller | oh, I can do screenies, np |
| 15:02.03 | foxlit | Ogremar! |
| 15:02.37 | Boubouille | L'ogre y s'marre ! |
| 15:02.54 | Boubouille | (woohoo, froggy joke !) |
| 15:03.04 | foxlit | Cache tooltips locally, Boubou! |
| 15:03.13 | Boubouille | they are |
| 15:03.20 | Boubouille | but there is an expiration of the cache |
| 15:03.21 | foxlit | So why can't I see any? |
| 15:03.41 | foxlit | Why expire them if you can't acuiqre an update? |
| 15:03.54 | Boubouille | Like I control when wowhead is crashed |
| 15:03.55 | Boubouille | :( |
| 15:04.14 | deltron | heh |
| 15:04.15 | foxlit | You _could_ fix it |
| 15:04.26 | deltron | so many rumors about wowhead now |
| 15:05.12 | Shmoo | I was looking forward to a *new* argument today...I thought wowhead was Mondays. |
| 15:05.38 | deltron | every day is wowhead :D |
| 15:05.53 | deltron | like the ministry song, every day is halloween |
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| 15:12.29 | foxlit | Hm, I should actually use the Private Parts joke rather than screenshotting one of my own characters. |
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| 15:16.30 | deltron | ? |
| 15:16.55 | winkiller | can you edit link color of a [[link]]? |
| 15:18.38 | foxlit | Yes and no |
| 15:18.44 | foxlit | What are you changing the color of? |
| 15:19.15 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/06/26/it-came-from-the-blog-hide-and-seek-and-this-weeks-adventure/ |
| 15:20.15 | winkiller | I want another link color because of the background color |
| 15:20.19 | winkiller | for user templates |
| 15:21.28 | foxlit | Justicar: patch 2.1? |
| 15:21.33 | foxlit | Span it |
| 15:21.43 | foxlit | Take a look at how Template:Quality does it |
| 15:22.51 | winkiller | ah ty |
| 15:25.11 | winkiller | bah, span instead of div ifc |
| 15:25.14 | winkiller | then it works |
| 15:27.21 | foxlit | Damn you, US date format. |
| 15:34.00 | foxlit | Bah |
| 15:34.16 | foxlit | Titles page quotes Drysc on "I believe there are also titles for some of the outdoor PvP objectives in the expansion (someone please correct me if I'm mistaken), so that may also be something you'll want to focus on while leveling." |
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| 15:34.28 | foxlit | Now, he's of course blatantly wrong, but I can't even find that text |
| 15:34.50 | foxlit | So the question is: did he ever even post that? |
| 15:36.15 | winkiller | Boubouille: do you have any icon for a drop of Archimonde? or a name.. |
| 15:36.21 | winkiller | can't find sth atm |
| 15:36.35 | Boubouille | ? :( |
| 15:36.51 | Boubouille | how can me help you :( |
| 15:36.59 | Boubouille | you want the name of an archimonde drop ? |
| 15:37.08 | winkiller | yeah, maybe with a distinct icon |
| 15:37.10 | Boubouille | Cataclysm's Edge, Robes of Rhonin, Apostle of Argus |
| 15:37.14 | winkiller | thanks a lot |
| 15:37.16 | Boubouille | Robes of Rhonin must have one, not sure |
| 15:37.32 | Boubouille | actually no |
| 15:37.55 | Boubouille | there is the bow, let me find the name :p |
| 15:38.37 | Boubouille | http://www.wowwiki.com/Bristleblitz_Striker |
| 15:39.00 | winkiller | cool thanks |
| 15:40.25 | Boubouille | hurray for wowhead being down again. |
| 15:40.31 | winkiller | still |
| 15:40.37 | winkiller | I couldn't access it whole day |
| 15:40.44 | winkiller | maybe I missed the short "up" |
| 15:40.50 | winkiller | that's kind of ironic |
| 15:41.00 | Boubouille | hmmmmm, re working |
| 15:41.01 | Boubouille | weird |
| 15:41.03 | winkiller | fansite with HUGE traffic, run by 3 guys - no uptime noticeable |
| 15:41.10 | winkiller | they are bought out and down |
| 15:41.11 | winkiller | ya<y |
| 15:41.22 | winkiller | enterprise business feature |
| 15:41.41 | winkiller | http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:User_HY http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:User_SSC http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:User_TY http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:User_BT |
| 15:41.44 | winkiller | all just done :) |
| 15:42.09 | winkiller | short: http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:List_of_user_templates#Warcraft_Achievements |
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| 15:46.16 | Boubouille | Damn, another funny day |
| 15:46.29 | Boubouille | all tooltips down because of wowhead, and latest news/comments messed up |
| 15:46.40 | deltron | doh |
| 15:47.47 | foxlit | See! |
| 15:47.51 | foxlit | Code defensively, dammit! |
| 15:48.20 | foxlit | Needs 2.0 updates template name? |
| 15:51.06 | foxlit | Hm, if anyone wants anything to do for the afternoon |
| 15:51.26 | foxlit | Retire all of Template:User_HerbalistEngineer type things for Template:User_Professions |
| 15:51.44 | foxlit | Which'd take the Herbalist/Engineer/Stuff as parameters rather than be hardcoded |
| 15:52.30 | winkiller | foxlit: how about announcing that cool change at first on http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:List_of_user_templates |
| 15:52.38 | winkiller | no one knows, not even me :P |
| 15:52.49 | winkiller | and I am quite diging around in user templates |
| 15:53.48 | foxlit | Why? :) |
| 15:53.50 | foxlit | I can just bot them all |
| 15:53.59 | winkiller | for new users |
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| 15:54.56 | foxlit | Oh good lord |
| 15:54.56 | foxlit | That page contains so much redundancy :( |
| 15:55.01 | winkiller | there is no http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:User_Professions btw |
| 15:55.31 | foxlit | I know; part of the job would be to make that :P |
| 15:58.13 | winkiller | haha |
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| 15:59.20 | winkiller | but same with User_DwarfHunter |
| 15:59.28 | winkiller | at least male/female are Vars |
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| 16:04.15 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/06/26/wow-moviewatch-azerothian-super-villians/ |
| 16:05.19 | Boubouille | Maybe they just decided to down wowhead and let people go back to thottbot and allakh :p |
| 16:06.41 | winkiller | http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:User_Arena o/ |
| 16:06.48 | winkiller | lol |
| 16:07.05 | winkiller | "ok, it cost a bit, but thott and alla will be #1 and #2 again" |
| 16:07.43 | Dotted | www.wowdigger.com |
| 16:08.12 | Dotted | HAI WE DIDNT STEEL WOWHEAD DISIEJN! |
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| 16:09.48 | Dotted | where is shoesiris when you need him :p |
| 16:10.11 | winkiller | holidays? :P |
| 16:10.48 | Dotted | for wowheads sake i hope not :p |
| 16:11.59 | foxlit | Dotted: they certainly didn't, it's ugly |
| 16:12.07 | winkiller | hehe, true |
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| 16:12.33 | foxlit | http://wowdigger.com/item/view/18584/warglaive-of-azzinoth-left |
| 16:12.36 | foxlit | gratsgrats! |
| 16:12.40 | Dotted | take wowheads design make few modifications, remove adds, change the colors viola wowdigger |
| 16:12.50 | Dotted | *ads |
| 16:12.52 | Dotted | hi zeeg |
| 16:13.09 | zeeg | my irc client is dumb, what was the msg |
| 16:13.12 | foxlit | "take wowheads design make few modifications," |
| 16:13.21 | foxlit | Ah, c'mon |
| 16:13.32 | foxlit | "Take empty text document, make a few modifications, you've stolen Shakespeare's work" |
| 16:14.02 | foxlit | Though beyond the front page, they're oddly similar |
| 16:14.13 | foxlit | URL style is more like wowamp, though, pity |
| 16:14.17 | Fisker- | wsite is ugly |
| 16:14.20 | Fisker- | -w |
| 16:14.29 | zeeg | are we talking about wowdigger? |
| 16:14.29 | zeeg | oh |
| 16:14.31 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 16:14.31 | winkiller | dotted is half blind imo |
| 16:14.33 | zeeg | oh |
| 16:14.33 | zeeg | ya |
| 16:14.35 | Fisker- | zeeg gief invites |
| 16:14.40 | zeeg | its an ugly copy paste imo |
| 16:14.52 | zeeg | whats your username? |
| 16:14.54 | Fisker- | It's like making mona lisa in mspaint |
| 16:14.59 | Fisker- | FISKER_Q |
| 16:15.53 | zeeg | done |
| 16:16.10 | Dotted | foxlit so you are saying the tabbed design is not a copy of wowhead :P? |
| 16:16.33 | Dotted | ignore the fact they uglyfied it for a sec |
| 16:16.38 | Fisker- | yay! |
| 16:17.17 | zeeg | at least its an improvement over their old db |
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| 16:23.37 | zeeg | I think doing the beta test on our dev server was a bad idea |
| 16:23.42 | zeeg | all the memory = poofed |
| 16:24.44 | Dotted | :D:D |
| 16:27.49 | |Pixel| | so, hm |
| 16:27.57 | |Pixel| | for those who were asking and wondering |
| 16:28.14 | |Pixel| | the EU-armory whitelisting tool is now up and running |
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| 16:29.29 | Dotted | |Pixel| now if we had a clue of what you are talking about... |
| 16:29.36 | Dotted | :p |
| 16:29.43 | |Pixel| | lots of people were talking to me about this lately |
| 16:29.46 | foxlit | I do, and it's a lot of <3 |
| 16:30.12 | Fisker- | OH HI |Pixel| |
| 16:30.17 | foxlit | What patch were the Scarab Lord et al titles introduced? |
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| 16:30.51 | Fisker- | azzinoth still isn't on it :( |
| 16:31.04 | Fisker- | foxlit when titles were introduced as far as i know |
| 16:31.19 | foxlit | 2.0.3 |
| 16:33.03 | Fisker- | btw |Pixel| whitelist itemid 192 :P |
| 16:33.31 | Dotted | i agree |
| 16:33.37 | Dotted | 192 is win |
| 16:34.40 | Fisker- | indeed |
| 16:37.42 | foxlit | Personally, I'd settle for itemid=1 |
| 16:37.43 | foxlit | http://www.wowwiki.com/Title |
| 16:38.56 | |Pixel| | hehe |
| 16:39.17 | |Pixel| | the tool scans everyone's profile, and add items to the whitelist |
| 16:39.22 | |Pixel| | and it does that constantly |
| 16:40.08 | foxlit | Gah |
| 16:40.13 | foxlit | Who writes this stuff? |
| 16:40.31 | Fisker- | is ashbringer still in the game? :P |
| 16:40.37 | foxlit | I'd imagine servers talk to you when profiles are saved; check if the items they're saved with are whitelisted, if not - whitelist them. Far easier. |
| 16:40.55 | Fisker- | infact the armory fetches from the server |
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| 16:43.50 | Fisker- | only saying what blizzard is saying :( |
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| 16:49.22 | |Pixel| | 18:40 < Fisker-> infact the armory fetches from the server |
| 16:49.25 | |Pixel| | that's 100% wrong :) |
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| 16:52.41 | Fisker- | |Pixel| well that's what teh Blizzard CM's are saying |
| 16:52.51 | Fisker- | but confirming they don't know what they're talking about is not new :( |
| 16:53.07 | Gryphen | wow..scan the entire armory to add 2 items to the whitelist :o |
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| 16:55.44 | Fisker- | but |Pixel| probably can't tell :/ |
| 16:56.18 | |Pixel| | hm ? |
| 16:56.40 | Fisker- | how it works :P |
| 17:01.28 | winkiller | foxlit: gj |
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| 17:03.33 | winkiller | foxlit: but mind if I switch old and new so the current ones are top? |
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| 17:25.32 | foxlit | winkiller: go for it |
| 17:26.06 | |Pixel| | well |
| 17:26.12 | |Pixel| | I can tell that whenever you exit the game |
| 17:26.31 | |Pixel| | the 'game' server (*magically*) updates the 'web' server with your new data |
| 17:26.45 | |Pixel| | that's all about it, and that's about as far I can to describe the process |
| 17:26.57 | foxlit | Based on the rollback patterns, I'd imagine that's also when you save backups |
| 17:27.13 | |Pixel| | rollbacks ? |
| 17:27.25 | foxlit | 2.1.1 had a bunch to test on |
| 17:27.32 | |Pixel| | so ? |
| 17:28.04 | foxlit | Means there's an extra layer of saving that doesn't occur whenever you do something in game |
| 17:28.30 | foxlit | Whereas you logging out likely forces that "deep" save |
| 17:29.12 | foxlit | I'm mainly speculating on how the game servers store character information |
| 17:29.24 | |Pixel| | "in a database" ? :) |
| 17:29.48 | foxlit | I'd imagine there's more than one intermediate one |
| 17:30.02 | |Pixel| | why that ? |
| 17:31.01 | foxlit | Design considerations; fact that some information may revert on rollbacks while other doesn't |
| 17:31.19 | foxlit | (where rollbacks == world server crashes) |
| 17:31.57 | |Pixel| | *cough* *cough* *cough* |
| 17:32.23 | |Pixel| | haven't you lost an item magically during server crash ? |
| 17:32.32 | foxlit | Surprisingly, no. |
| 17:32.36 | |Pixel| | or item duplicated while server crashing ? |
| 17:32.39 | |Pixel| | okay, I did :) |
| 17:32.58 | |Pixel| | and I know lots of people who happened to get strange bags behavior during server crashes |
| 17:33.01 | foxlit | I've had my character equipment snapshot and position changed over server crashes, but they've been surprisingly good with keeping inventory data |
| 17:33.29 | |Pixel| | actually, it depends on the nature of the 'crash' |
| 17:33.43 | |Pixel| | but there we enter gray areay I can't really let you in :) |
| 17:34.08 | foxlit | So, if I were designing a backend, I'd do the following: |
| 17:34.26 | foxlit | Have a cluster(server?)-wide character database that stores EVERYTHING about characters. |
| 17:34.42 | foxlit | World servers would, upon log in, request data from this. |
| 17:34.56 | foxlit | And keep their local snapshot. |
| 17:35.09 | foxlit | On log out / time out, world servers save data to the back end. |
| 17:35.25 | |Pixel| | hehehe |
| 17:35.34 | foxlit | Obviously, it may be beneficial to have some transactiosn committ immediately |
| 17:36.19 | foxlit | So that world server crashes wouldn't wipe all progress someone made in their current session |
| 17:36.33 | |Pixel| | oh, by the way, did you happen to read mangos's source code ? :) |
| 17:37.05 | foxlit | Mangos are delicious fruit, I don't want to know what they put in one! :) |
| 17:37.35 | |Pixel| | hmm :) |
| 17:37.45 | Gryphen | Chris Kattan is silly |
| 17:38.02 | |Pixel| | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MaNGOS |
| 17:38.06 | foxlit | Look what you made me do, I had to search up for mangos :( |
| 17:39.30 | foxlit | Oh. |
| 17:39.55 | foxlit | Anything interesting in their source? |
| 17:40.16 | |Pixel| | ooooh yeah |
| 17:40.21 | |Pixel| | an awful lot of things :) |
| 17:42.26 | foxlit | But anyway, point of the story: update armory when world server comits info to DB backend |
| 17:42.41 | foxlit | Perhaps in queued chunks |
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| 17:48.11 | winkiller | meh, still below 500 edits |
| 17:48.13 | winkiller | :( |
| 17:48.43 | foxlit | Who cares? |
| 17:48.51 | foxlit | wwclub is epeen-only anyway |
| 17:50.24 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/06/26/the-coolest-quest/ |
| 17:53.14 | Dotted | winkiller i think i have beyond 500 edits but im in no club |
| 17:53.25 | Dotted | so dont get your hopes up too high :p |
| 17:55.48 | foxlit | Tag yourself! |
| 18:03.56 | deltron | i can say I have 1 million edits |
| 18:04.02 | deltron | but I only have like 3 to my user page |
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| 18:07.07 | deltron | Skosiris: ! |
| 18:07.14 | Skosiris | ! |
| 18:07.18 | deltron | heh grats |
| 18:07.33 | winkiller | foxlit: I like epeen |
| 18:08.05 | deltron | my sysinfo script has epeen |
| 18:08.10 | deltron | Host 'ghidora', running Linux 2.6.20-16-386 - Cpu0: Celeron 797 MHz; Up: 14d+3:43; Users: 7; Load: 0.00; Free: [Mem: 45/249 Mio] [Swap: 1425/1459 Mio] [/: 13726/36846 Mio]; Vpenis: 28 cm; |
| 18:08.17 | deltron | oh Vpenis |
| 18:08.17 | deltron | heh |
| 18:08.26 | winkiller | oh, pastey it |
| 18:08.36 | winkiller | my old one won't work since 2.6 :P |
| 18:08.46 | deltron | it's an irssi script |
| 18:08.53 | winkiller | oh that one |
| 18:08.54 | winkiller | sec |
| 18:08.55 | TecnoBrat | Skosiris, in your new apt? |
| 18:09.44 | TecnoBrat | Skosiris, I bet you bought a nice place with all of that dirty gold selling money! *kidding!!!!* |
| 18:10.09 | clad|work | wow, so mean |
| 18:10.16 | TecnoBrat | I know :P |
| 18:10.21 | deltron | lol |
| 18:10.25 | TecnoBrat | Skosiris knows I am kidding though |
| 18:10.28 | clad|work | hostilewiki.com |
| 18:10.29 | clad|work | =) |
| 18:11.07 | winkiller | people are always pissed after downtime |
| 18:11.15 | winkiller | TecnoBrat: I found your blog quite amusing btw |
| 18:11.24 | TecnoBrat | oh did you? |
| 18:11.29 | winkiller | 2 posts, 7month silence, 1 post, now 7 month break again= :) |
| 18:12.13 | winkiller | ah no, it wwas 2-3 even |
| 18:12.13 | TecnoBrat | Yea, I decided to start posting again |
| 18:12.13 | foxlit | Blogs are a thing of evil! |
| 18:12.13 | TecnoBrat | I'm gonna have some cool things to start posting about |
| 18:12.13 | TecnoBrat | I'm working on a ruby on rails project atm |
| 18:12.13 | winkiller | you're just jealous |
| 18:12.30 | winkiller | don't like it |
| 18:12.36 | winkiller | wanna start python sometime |
| 18:12.42 | winkiller | otherwise php all the way |
| 18:13.01 | TecnoBrat | I'm really liking RoR |
| 18:13.24 | TecnoBrat | programming languages / frameworks are a definate personal preference thing. |
| 18:15.29 | TecnoBrat | I was also heavy on php couple years back, haven't really gotten into python |
| 18:16.12 | winkiller | well, ror is nice |
| 18:16.18 | winkiller | but I don't really like the approach |
| 18:16.24 | winkiller | and the hype :P |
| 18:16.48 | Skosiris | lol |
| 18:17.07 | winkiller | I don't like that fixed structure of a framework |
| 18:17.16 | Skosiris | we used the dirty gold selling money as wallpaper in the living room |
| 18:17.35 | winkiller | why are you still here and not on cuba or barbados, skosiris? :D |
| 18:17.45 | TecnoBrat | Skosiris, good idea. |
| 18:18.36 | Skosiris | Because I like this channel |
| 18:18.52 | Fisker- | btw how does one walk into mordor(or become a wowhead moderator, i guess it's the same thing) |
| 18:19.26 | foxlit | foxlit: in your wiki, deleting your content. |
| 18:19.40 | Skosiris | TecnoBrat: The move is complete, but I'm at my parents' house for a few days :) |
| 18:20.27 | foxlit | http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:Titles |
| 18:20.32 | foxlit | Just 5 articles left! :P |
| 18:21.25 | TecnoBrat | winkiller, personally I like the fixed structure. I played with django a little, and the first thing I found is that it shoves all of the models / views into one file, and you would need to do your own includes if you wanted separation. |
| 18:21.53 | winkiller | imho problem is the work "framework" - it's too undefined |
| 18:22.03 | winkiller | RoR has like 90% fixed rack |
| 18:22.14 | winkiller | and Zend or PEAR ghave like 10-30% pre-defined |
| 18:22.36 | winkiller | ror has a clear approach, but I find it a bit overdone for very small stuff |
| 18:22.53 | TecnoBrat | I'll agree with you there. It can be overkill |
| 18:23.50 | TecnoBrat | But when you are dealing with a project with 20 or so models, and at least as many controllers, the struture becomes much more useful. |
| 18:27.42 | winkiller | yep sure |
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| 18:27.47 | winkiller | cakephp is quite similar |
| 18:27.58 | winkiller | appealed a bit more to me |
| 18:28.10 | winkiller | but I think it's php fanboyism :P |
| 18:28.16 | deltron | wowdigger reminds me of goblin workshop |
| 18:28.19 | deltron | hmmm |
| 18:28.23 | winkiller | codeigniter also seems decent |
| 18:28.27 | winkiller | a bit, deltron |
| 18:28.33 | winkiller | but the ugly stepbrother |
| 18:29.22 | winkiller | to be successful a site needs to have a balance of looks and functionality |
| 18:29.28 | winkiller | wowdigger i subpar in both |
| 18:29.58 | winkiller | wowhead for example has much better functionality than design, but it's minimalistic - so nothing can be done overly wrong |
| 18:30.19 | TecnoBrat | wowheads design is functional |
| 18:30.28 | TecnoBrat | with IMO, is important in this day and age |
| 18:30.34 | TecnoBrat | too many sites are too flashy |
| 18:30.40 | TecnoBrat | and hard to use because of it. |
| 18:30.50 | TecnoBrat | yea sure, ajax is cool ... but it has its places. |
| 18:31.02 | winkiller | yes ofc |
| 18:31.22 | winkiller | but wowhead isn't exactly perfectly designed - but absolutely nothing wrong with it |
| 18:31.54 | winkiller | and I didn't say flashy - just less grey and black :D |
| 18:32.43 | foxlit | http://www.wowwiki.com/Title |
| 18:32.46 | foxlit | So much better now :P |
| 18:34.57 | winkiller | yes |
| 18:35.03 | winkiller | but city protector is missing |
| 18:35.18 | TecnoBrat | like .. our site ... is getting really fucking annoying with the overuse of ajax |
| 18:35.40 | TecnoBrat | ("our site" being the company I work for |
| 18:35.51 | TecnoBrat | they have a web hosting signup page, it uses a lightbox |
| 18:35.52 | TecnoBrat | why? |
| 18:35.53 | TecnoBrat | no idea. |
| 18:35.54 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/06/26/wow-tcg-card-lady-kath-honors-mother-with-brain-cancer/ |
| 18:36.04 | TecnoBrat | because its cool .. I guess. |
| 18:39.09 | foxlit | http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Whatlinkshere/PvP_Rankings |
| 18:39.11 | foxlit | That's a bit sad |
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| 18:39.20 | winkiller | url, TecnoBrat? |
| 18:41.30 | foxlit | Wee, http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:DoubleRedirects |
| 18:41.32 | TecnoBrat | http://www.bravenet.com |
| 18:41.45 | TecnoBrat | I don't know if you can get to the hosting signup without having an account |
| 18:41.47 | foxlit | evilwebsiteshudder! |
| 18:41.51 | TecnoBrat | (which is also fucking dumb) |
| 18:42.16 | deltron | 10++!!!!! |
| 18:42.17 | deltron | nowai! |
| 18:43.10 | deltron | Skosiris: so, are the rumors of having character info on wowhead true? :) |
| 18:43.47 | TecnoBrat | like a ctprofile? |
| 18:43.48 | TecnoBrat | or what? |
| 18:44.22 | deltron | yeah |
| 18:44.29 | deltron | but i read that on wowinsider |
| 18:44.32 | deltron | so who knows |
| 18:44.35 | TecnoBrat | foxlit, haha don't like bravenet? |
| 18:45.02 | TecnoBrat | I'm probably part of the reason why you don't like it ... evil advertising :P |
| 18:46.57 | winkiller | looks moderatly similar to something I already saw |
| 18:46.58 | foxlit | examples plx! |
| 18:46.59 | winkiller | looks flashy :P |
| 18:48.14 | TecnoBrat | hmmm, delivering an ad like a lightbox .. hmmm |
| 18:48.19 | TecnoBrat | that would be extremely evil |
| 18:48.56 | winkiller | TecnoBrat: imho it would be smart to name prices and not how much you can save o_O |
| 18:49.00 | winkiller | on the frontpage |
| 18:49.25 | foxlit | You're so wrong :) |
| 18:49.36 | deltron | ok wowdigger has too much ajax i think |
| 18:49.44 | deltron | locks up my browser |
| 18:50.13 | winkiller | hi, armory? :D |
| 18:50.33 | TecnoBrat | I'm not in that dept at all .. I have no say on how the content of the site works .. and they ignore me :P |
| 18:51.10 | winkiller | oh cool |
| 18:51.10 | TecnoBrat | I'm in the advertising dept, and not advertising our company ... putting ads on out free services, and also on our publishers pages :) |
| 18:51.12 | winkiller | http://www.bravenet.com/global/1997.html |
| 18:51.19 | winkiller | first company that is not ashamed of web 0.5 :P |
| 18:51.37 | TecnoBrat | yea, that was way back in the day |
| 18:51.42 | TecnoBrat | we still have the content somewhere |
| 18:51.55 | TecnoBrat | tables ... *shudder* |
| 18:52.01 | winkiller | archive.org tells all secrets |
| 18:52.02 | deltron | TecnoBrat: so you make those punch the monkey ads? |
| 18:52.04 | winkiller | so nice to see it live |
| 18:52.14 | winkiller | if yes... |
| 18:52.18 | winkiller | *punch* |
| 18:52.33 | TecnoBrat | deltron, nope :P |
| 18:52.35 | deltron | lol |
| 18:52.38 | deltron | bravenet clan! |
| 18:52.41 | deltron | also, tabs! |
| 18:52.43 | winkiller | flash ads with sound make me go map the host to 127.0.0.1 |
| 18:53.24 | TecnoBrat | hhaaha winkiller, welcome to oddcast |
| 18:53.44 | TecnoBrat | they have these ads you hover over, and they say "type anything you want" in a english accent |
| 18:53.50 | TecnoBrat | and then you type in them, and it speaks |
| 18:54.05 | TecnoBrat | great for making it call your co-worker a jack .. a ... ss .. |
| 18:54.08 | TecnoBrat | as it likes to say it |
| 18:54.14 | deltron | hehe |
| 18:54.26 | winkiller | I am kind of ad-blind tbh |
| 18:54.34 | winkiller | 9 years of www made me immune |
| 18:54.37 | TecnoBrat | most people are |
| 18:54.46 | winkiller | not most enough |
| 18:54.52 | winkiller | still makes some cash it seems :P |
| 18:54.59 | deltron | click here for your free ipod! |
| 18:55.03 | TecnoBrat | and some site designs are not very ad-friendly |
| 18:55.06 | TecnoBrat | http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/ comes to mind |
| 18:55.15 | TecnoBrat | the leaderboard at the top is useless |
| 18:55.17 | deltron | there was an ad on tv for one of those free xbox 360 scams |
| 18:55.20 | foxlit | Oh WoW |
| 18:55.26 | foxlit | (caps unintended) |
| 18:55.32 | TecnoBrat | you basically put a huge border there that says "DONT LOOK ABOVE HERE" |
| 18:55.41 | TecnoBrat | same with the block |
| 18:56.20 | TecnoBrat | http://resources.bravenet.com/ is the same |
| 18:56.29 | TecnoBrat | the border below the leaderboard is dumb |
| 18:57.04 | TecnoBrat | its unfriendly to the user (makes them scroll all of the time), and bad for the ad |
| 18:57.22 | Devilkoul | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=110528018&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
| 18:57.29 | Devilkoul | pretty epic pvp post |
| 18:58.27 | foxlit | http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/9853/guesswhouz1.jpg |
| 18:59.18 | deltron | Devilkoul: good god....my head hurts |
| 19:00.14 | Devilkoul | "You a puts upliftnick.You have always been one gg most of us have better ##%* to do besides sit on our ass 24/7 pvping.Thats all you ever where good at. " |
| 19:00.17 | Devilkoul | ye, it's pretty bad |
| 19:00.39 | Devilkoul | ill give someone $1 if they can define "upliftnick" |
| 19:01.12 | Devilkoul | must be toon name |
| 19:01.21 | foxlit | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Shadowmoon&n=Upliftnick |
| 19:01.27 | foxlit | Do I win? |
| 19:02.07 | Devilkoul | dollar* |
| 19:05.59 | deltron | puts = putz? |
| 19:06.52 | winkiller | anyone ever compared us and eu forums? |
| 19:06.53 | [NewsBot] | MMO Champion: Illidan killed by Curse, mana leech bow dropped. - http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=363.0 |
| 19:06.55 | winkiller | qualitywise? :P |
| 19:07.01 | deltron | eu forums are awesome |
| 19:07.11 | deltron | from a blue posting perspective |
| 19:07.21 | winkiller | most blue postings are useless here on eu |
| 19:07.25 | winkiller | imo |
| 19:08.20 | deltron | at least you get them! |
| 19:08.32 | deltron | shaman forums on us haven't had a blue post in AGES |
| 19:14.29 | deltron | http://news.com.com/8301-10784_3-9733848-7.html |
| 19:14.30 | deltron | wtf |
| 19:20.54 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/06/26/what-mob-do-you-love-to-hate/ |
| 19:26.28 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Future_race_ideas#High_Elves |
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| 19:28.01 | Bagginsww | thoughts anyone? |
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| 19:31.06 | deltron | say no to high elves! |
| 19:31.37 | Devilkoul | hah |
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| 19:33.28 | Bagginsww | so no to crack elves |
| 19:35.17 | Aella | Raise your hand if you want to help me with CSS and browser incompatibilities. >.< |
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| 19:38.45 | Aella | Hmm, that's a pretty resounding "no." |
| 19:39.10 | Bagginsww | I would if I knew technical things but I don't |
| 19:39.37 | Aella | I love you anyway (I think). |
| 19:40.50 | Bagginsww | Lol, thanks. |
| 19:43.22 | Dotted | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-talents.xml?r=Shadowmoon&n=Darkdemonx <- that talent build is GOLD! |
| 19:44.47 | foxlit | Aella: my usual complaint applies: ask questions, not metaquestions! :) |
| 19:45.50 | Aella | Go here with Firefox or IE: http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Nexuapex/Alphabetical_list_of_slash_commands |
| 19:46.46 | Aella | Specifically, the "Supports macro options" and "Chat channel" tags. They look all pretty and shiny in Safari, but on Firefox and IE it's as if they've got an extra line inserted above them. |
| 19:48.04 | Aella | They're floats inside a <div> not unlike the {{Band}} template. |
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| 20:05.54 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/06/26/the-light-and-how-to-swing-it-bugs-or-features/ |
| 20:19.38 | foxlit | <span class="myYellow">"On behalf of the International Gnomish Conspiracy, |
| 20:19.40 | foxlit | No! |
| 20:19.44 | foxlit | That's yourYellow, dammit! |
| 20:32.45 | SoothingR | o.O |
| 20:32.53 | SoothingR | not sure if this game I just downloaded is any fun.. |
| 20:32.59 | SoothingR | "Little Britain - The Game" |
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| 21:16.37 | LadySerena | grrr |
| 21:16.46 | LadySerena | Blizzard really fucked the game over. |
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| 21:18.26 | LadySerena | it was bad enough when I had to logout and login every 3-4 kills because the client software decided to stop showing the critters running around |
| 21:19.01 | LadySerena | then waiting 20 minutes for my kills for a quest to register ..... that was bad |
| 21:19.15 | LadySerena | but then instant respawn .... |
| 21:19.20 | LadySerena | fuck that shit |
| 21:23.47 | FISKER_Q | !al fisker al'akir eu |
| 21:23.54 | FISKER_Q | !al fisker eu al'akir |
| 21:24.02 | FISKER_Q | !armory tits or gtfo |
| 21:24.10 | FISKER_Q | !al |
| 21:24.16 | Dotted | !al eu al'akir fisker |
| 21:24.22 | Dotted | [23:23:39] -[NewsBot]- Fisker's Armory Profile: http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Al'akir&n=Fisker |
| 21:24.23 | FISKER_Q | kthx |
| 21:24.28 | Dotted | freakin fail |
| 21:24.49 | FISKER_Q | QQ |
| 21:24.58 | FISKER_Q | fail yourself |
| 21:25.19 | FISKER_Q | could easily have made it just recognize server + region and don't give a shit about order |
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| 21:26.06 | foxlit | Region yes, server no |
| 21:26.06 | Dotted | cba to maintain a serverlist |
| 21:26.19 | foxlit | I'm with dotted on this - maintaining server lists ftl. |
| 21:26.49 | LadySerena | !al Scarlet Crusade Caliraela |
| 21:26.56 | LadySerena | !al us Scarlet Crusade Caliraela |
| 21:27.00 | Dotted | and since EU doesnt have a status.xml yet that isnt an option euter |
| 21:27.00 | LadySerena | :D |
| 21:27.08 | Dotted | *aither |
| 21:27.12 | Dotted | *either |
| 21:27.13 | foxlit | Though perhaps !al junk <REPLY> Get a clue about my format: <Region> <Server> <Character Name> |
| 21:27.13 | Dotted | sigh |
| 21:27.24 | FISKER_Q | oh yes FUCKING hard Dotted |
| 21:27.35 | FISKER_Q | Just get it for someone who wants to do it for you anyways |
| 21:27.42 | FISKER_Q | like antiarc's armory tools |
| 21:28.05 | LadySerena | just like always, it doesn't show any info about what's equipped |
| 21:28.28 | FISKER_Q | besides just rape |Pixel| |
| 21:28.29 | foxlit | #char us Scarlet Crusade Caliraela |
| 21:28.31 | Foxbot | foxlit: Caliraela, Level 53 Warlock (44/0/0). 2179 HP; 4111 Mana. |
| 21:28.31 | FISKER_Q | and he might do it |
| 21:29.09 | Dotted | already asked him |
| 21:29.10 | LadySerena | shouldn't Foxbot also show things like race and guild? |
| 21:29.16 | Dotted | he said 'good question' |
| 21:29.33 | FISKER_Q | then strike now |
| 21:30.13 | LadySerena | Armory is broken. Always has been. Probably always will be. |
| 21:30.19 | Dotted | |Pixel| |Pixel| |Pixel| |Pixel| |Pixel| |Pixel| |Pixel| |Pixel| |Pixel| |Pixel| |Pixel| |Pixel| |Pixel| |Pixel| |Pixel| |Pixel| |Pixel| |Pixel| |Pixel| |Pixel| |Pixel| |Pixel| |Pixel| |Pixel| |Pixel| |Pixel| |Pixel| |Pixel| |Pixel| |Pixel| |Pixel| |Pixel| |Pixel| |Pixel| |Pixel| |Pixel| |Pixel| |Pixel| |Pixel| |Pixel| |Pixel| |Pixel| |Pixel| |Pixel| |Pixel| |Pixel| |Pixel| |Pixel| |Pixel| |Pixel| |Pixel| |Pixel| |Pixel| |Pixel| |Pixel| |Pixel| |
| 21:30.34 | LadySerena | Doesn't show item info for equipped items, just shows "loading..." and nothing else |
| 21:31.01 | foxlit | LadySerena: It can, but I'm not doing it |
| 21:31.40 | FISKER_Q | Armory is workingz0r |
| 21:32.32 | LadySerena | mostly, but it doesn't show item info when I :hover over equipped items |
| 21:32.37 | LadySerena | never has |
| 21:33.18 | FISKER_Q | always has here |
| 21:33.54 | LadySerena | O.o |
| 21:35.07 | Dotted | lol @ hitman trailer |
| 21:35.19 | FISKER_Q | hitman is ooooooooooold |
| 21:35.49 | Dotted | talking about the movie >_> |
| 21:36.37 | FISKER_Q | links or it didn't happen |
| 21:37.45 | Dotted | http://moviesmovies.ign.com/movies/video/article/799/799495/hitman_tease_062507_qthighwide.mov |
| 21:38.17 | Dotted | http://filmz.dk/forum/item/26799/#18 |
| 21:39.19 | FISKER_Q | Your |
| 21:39.20 | FISKER_Q | MOTHER |
| 21:39.44 | Dotted | NO U |
| 21:40.11 | FISKER_Q | NO UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU |
| 21:41.29 | FISKER_Q | lol |
| 21:41.33 | FISKER_Q | doesn't even look like hitman |
| 21:41.44 | FISKER_Q | looks like some 10 year old faggot |
| 21:41.47 | FISKER_Q | and btw |
| 21:41.57 | FISKER_Q | Did they mention to get rid of evil? |
| 21:42.16 | FISKER_Q | OLOLOL |
| 21:42.20 | FISKER_Q | For fucks sake |
| 21:42.24 | FISKER_Q | Hitman is 100% evil |
| 21:42.39 | FISKER_Q | And they're making it "oh he's doing it for the sake of mankind"-movie |
| 21:42.42 | FISKER_Q | FAIL Dotted |
| 21:42.44 | FISKER_Q | FAIL |
| 21:43.05 | jme | hitman.. that loks like the guy from transporter |
| 21:43.31 | FISKER_Q | It's not and it doesn't |
| 21:43.39 | FISKER_Q | Infact i almost think the guy from transporter would be better |
| 21:44.18 | Dotted | there is still room for surprises, but meh i doubt it since it is lolfox making the movie |
| 21:44.43 | Dotted | they are PG-13'ing everything they produce |
| 21:44.48 | Dotted | no quality stuff |
| 21:44.56 | Dotted | i mean look at 24 |
| 21:45.03 | Dotted | LÆLLOOOOOOOOLLLLOLOLOL |
| 21:46.44 | FISKER_Q | lolol? |
| 21:46.47 | FISKER_Q | why should i watch it? |
| 21:46.53 | Dotted | its freakin gay |
| 21:47.12 | Dotted | completely destroyed it in season 6 |
| 21:50.25 | zeeg | bahaha |
| 21:50.28 | zeeg | who said I'm a newbie coder :) |
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| 21:50.45 | TecnoBrat | lol why? what did you do?! |
| 21:50.55 | zeeg | the my.curse stuff is so good :P |
| 21:51.02 | zeeg | (and fast) |
| 21:51.09 | zeeg | its like.. google, on steroids |
| 21:51.22 | zeeg | http://my.curse.com/zinor/games/details/1/ |
| 21:51.23 | zeeg | click friends |
| 21:51.23 | zeeg | :) |
| 21:51.28 | zeeg | so good |
| 21:52.53 | FISKER_Q | http://filmz.dk/forum/item/26799/#21 Dotted |
| 21:53.21 | FISKER_Q | you coders all look alike |
| 21:54.38 | FISKER_Q | do want captcha |
| 21:54.49 | FISKER_Q | oh and non-failing |
| 21:54.55 | FISKER_Q | http://my.curse.com/account/characters/add/ <-doesn't like that |
| 21:55.03 | FISKER_Q | gonna get some sleep |
| 21:55.28 | TecnoBrat | sweet, add to friends borks! |
| 21:56.16 | zeeg | ya i have to make the urls yet :) |
| 21:56.30 | zeeg | non-failing |
| 21:56.31 | zeeg | wait |
| 21:56.32 | zeeg | im confused |
| 21:56.46 | TecnoBrat | http://my.curse.com/u/admin/friends/add/Zinor/ = 404 |
| 21:57.08 | zeeg | im confused to what he was talking about on the add chars page tho and captcha |
| 21:57.27 | Dotted | "David has no friends" <- ahahahahahahaha nice one zeeg |
| 21:57.46 | Dotted | well FISKER_Q is just a troll |
| 21:57.55 | zeeg | where'd you see that one at Dotted |
| 21:57.55 | zeeg | lol |
| 21:58.23 | TecnoBrat | adding a char requires the client .. that might be what he "doesnt like" |
| 21:58.25 | Dotted | ...that plays Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning |
| 21:59.19 | Dotted | zeeg adding games is gay |
| 21:59.33 | Dotted | atleast when you are trying to add multiple games |
| 21:59.35 | zeeg | what do you mean |
| 21:59.40 | zeeg | hrm |
| 21:59.42 | Dotted | and i'd prefer a dropdown |
| 21:59.50 | zeeg | well the problem is, we'll have 500 games in 1 year |
| 21:59.53 | zeeg | and a dropdown cant work for that |
| 22:00.13 | zeeg | but I'll probably add some ajax stuff so you dont have to reload |
| 22:02.30 | Dotted | ajax dropdown is fine aswell :p |
| 22:02.57 | Dotted | or just have to most popular in the drop down |
| 22:03.17 | Dotted | than have an Other selection that changes it to a fextfield |
| 22:03.24 | Dotted | *textfield |
| 22:04.32 | zeeg | Bibi: your page is fixed |
| 22:05.12 | TecnoBrat | I don't mind the text field |
| 22:05.13 | Dotted | imo gief ArmA portal on curse :p |
| 22:05.36 | TecnoBrat | but "warcraft" should show "world of warcraft" in the dropdown |
| 22:05.44 | Dotted | textfield for less popular games is ok |
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| 22:06.40 | Bibi | zeeg : ^^ |
| 22:08.37 | Dotted | http://my.curse.com/account/hardware/add/ tiihii |
| 22:13.04 | foxlit | Hm, zeeg. |
| 22:13.23 | foxlit | Can figure out if an email is associated with an account from login page :P |
| 22:14.41 | foxlit | h1 is very small compared to h2 in addon changentoes |
| 22:22.04 | Bibi | zeeg : poke you know who for me. |
| 22:22.05 | Bibi | k thx |
| 22:22.51 | Dotted | sekrets |
| 22:37.18 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Future_race_ideas#Pandaren_Independents |
| 22:43.43 | zeeg | foxlit: ya giuve me the email |
| 22:43.55 | zeeg | we're going to do a page for "I forgot my email" :P |
| 22:48.40 | Dotted | loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool |
| 22:51.29 | foxlit | It's the difference between "you messed up account name" and "you messed up password" error messages |
| 23:01.55 | zeeg | im not sure if there is any :P |
| 23:02.58 | foxlit | Try :P |
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