IRC log for #wowwiki on 20070618

00:22.37*** join/#wowwiki Sandwichman2448 (n=cyrillpi@11.80.205.68.cfl.res.rr.com)
00:25.04Sandwichman2448Were pigs called grok in orcish and if so has it been retconed?
00:27.17Sandwichman2448http://www.wowwiki.com/The_Destiny_of_the_Orcish_Hordes
00:27.39Sandwichman2448http://www.wowwiki.com/Farms#Orc_Farms_and_Horde_Pig_Farms
00:27.56Pzykdamn straight
00:28.05Pzykpig farms is da shizznit!
00:28.14Sandwichman2448Yo.
00:30.21Sandwichman2448The leigion, Illidari, and Shadow Council all have crests. I should add them.
00:30.33Sandwichman2448i think
00:30.44Sandwichman2448Leigion is iffy
00:30.57Sandwichman2448Sc is more of a true flag
00:33.43Sandwichman2448That symbol that appears in the smoke and on the thingys in the forge camps could be their flag/crest, is a better image of that in The art of burning crusaide? I CAN NOT FIND THAT BOOK ANYWHERE!
00:34.45Sandwichman2448the netherwing defender sheild thing is hanging all over Illidan's bases.
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00:37.19Sandwichman2448No comments? Ok.
00:42.15Sandwichman2448i just wanted confirmation that these are true.
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00:46.41Sandwichman2448Hello.
00:48.31Sandwichman2448NVM.
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00:58.26Adyssandwichman can be a scary eejit sometimes
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01:10.47Sandwichman2448Adme just rmeoved self from vandal list!
01:11.03Sandwichman2448Not good
01:11.26Sandwichman2448http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Zurr
01:13.39Sandwichman2448Again.
01:13.45Sandwichman2448This is heating up!
01:13.54Sandwichman2448Anyone following this too?
01:14.58Sandwichman2448Guess not. Your loss.
01:15.56Sandwichman2448Lots of illigal DNP selling!
01:16.53Gryphenpeople may be in the channel, doest mean we are actually around
01:16.57Gryphenhave some patience
01:17.35bleeteraye, http://www.wowwiki.com/Yeh%21_for_Games%2C_Inc. needs to be locked and banned etc. etc. hehe
01:17.52Gryphenin an instance at the moment
01:18.05bleeterand, no doubt, reported to blizz for their legal fundom ;)
01:18.29bleeterinteresting, that page uses the blizz logo next to the gold seller's corporate name
01:18.31Sandwichman2448Sorry Gryf.
01:19.11Sandwichman2448That is odd.
01:19.22bleeterwhoever does the full delete, etc., may wanna SS it before the delete and send it off to blizz
01:19.23Sandwichman2448Making themselves look 'Legit'
01:19.31Sandwichman2448SS?
01:19.35bleeterscreen shot
01:20.16bleetersleep = 4 week, kirk!
01:20.21bleeter*weak
01:20.23bleeterdamnit
01:20.57Pzykfuck! I'm missing out on vandalism?
01:21.02Pzykgrr doing heroics
01:21.10Sandwichman2448Missed it.
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01:21.47Sandwichman2448I can't take screenshots now for some reason.
01:21.58Sandwichman2448Anyone take care of it?
01:22.19Sandwichman2448Gryf?
01:23.25Sandwichman2448...
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01:23.31Gryphenyes jeez
01:26.04Kirkburn|sleep:)
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01:26.29Kirkburn|sleepThanks, Gryph
01:30.40bleeterindeed, thx gryph.
01:30.57Pzyklol
01:31.01bleeterKirkburn|sleep: soz for waking you up
01:31.09PzykI particularly like his complaint to zurrs
01:31.16Pzyk"stop what you are doing immediately!"
01:31.35bleeterI have a screenie, if none of the admins got one for letting Blizz know, although I guess there's a chance you don't wanna open that can of worms ;)
01:41.56Gryphenall the page info is still available to admins
01:42.24bleeterrightio, well I'll leave you all be then
01:42.32bleetergluck in yer instance, Gryph :)
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02:12.48winkilleromg, I found a guy on my realm with 22x exalted. that even beats Adys by quite some grind :P
02:13.15Adysonly 22 exalteds? this gnome mage I forgot the name of has like 30
02:13.24winkillerwow
02:13.31winkillerI have 5 :(
02:17.19winkillerWarla of Dragonmaw US
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02:18.02winkiller33 and 1 repeatable short of 34 o_O
02:36.36Kirkburn|sleepOh, Warla :P
02:36.55Kirkburn|sleepSeen him on the interface channels before, absolutely mad :)
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03:18.29Kirkburn|sleepDon't you just love when you get offered Ghanian money by email. Especially $10 million of it.
03:23.43TekkubKirk, I got an email about the new penis enlargment patch
03:23.51Tekkubgotta love modern medicine
03:23.55Kirkburn|sleep:D
03:24.10Tekkubquestion is...
03:24.23Tekkubdo you apply it diectly to the penis?
03:24.39PzykHeadOn! Apply directly to head!
03:24.59Tekkubfor some reason, I would think under the sack would be the best spot
03:27.56RogueShadow... I... I... edited something on the wiki, i'm scared.   don't hurt me.
03:28.10Fisker-Kirkburn|sleep i got free money
03:28.15Fisker-You just gotta pay a fee to get it!
03:28.22Fisker-Are you in
03:28.27Fisker-or are you CHIIIIIIICKEEEN?
03:28.42Fisker-*cue backgroundmusic*
03:29.09Kirkburn|sleepWhy am I hearing the Cow and Chicken theme tune?
03:30.00PzykRogueShadow: what article? so I can blast the edit to infinity and beyond
03:30.32RogueShadowI was reading the books, found throughout the game. and one of them sounded funky so I removed a word that was causing reading problems.
03:30.46RogueShadowI would have to check one moment.
03:31.19RogueShadowhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Sargeras_and_the_Betrayal
03:31.33RogueShadowThus the Burning Legion was born.
03:31.39RogueShadowUsed to say Thus was the Burning Legion was born.
03:32.26RogueShadowif somebody has seen the book in game, you can tell me if it was just in there stupid, or if the was, is supposed to be at the beginning instead of the end.
03:33.24PzykI guess the first "was" could work if you're talking in ancient speak
03:33.48Pzykyou could probably check online
03:34.46Kirkburn|sleepAncient speak? Yeah, right :)
03:35.36Kirkburn|sleepThus shaletest pronouncerethed that twas the Legion of Burning that was birthed.
03:36.22Kirkburn|sleepIn all seriousness, that's good to hear RogueShadow =) I hope you edit more!
03:36.33Pzykthat line isn't even in the book
03:36.38Pzykhttp://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/story/chapter1.html
03:36.47bleeter"Thus was... was born" is wrong in any language
03:37.00PzykI can't find that line anywhere
03:37.18Kirkburn|sleepThe website was probably updated
03:37.21Kirkburn|sleepAnd now, I am off to bed
03:38.27Pzykwait
03:38.39PzykI think the website contains old OLD information
03:38.53Pzykit has "The eredar, an insidious race of devilish sorcerers, used their warlock magics to invade and enslave a number of worlds."
03:38.57RogueShadowOk, now I just want to check out all differences.  Or just copy the whole thing from the wow website
03:38.59Pzykwhich was retconned
03:39.03Kirkburn|sleepStill? Ouch
03:39.14Pzykwe'd have to check the book ingame
03:39.16RogueShadowor maybe not
03:39.18RogueShadowyeah
03:39.35RogueShadowCuriousity.  We'll have to wait until we check the book in-game.
03:39.53Pzykoh god, I can only imagine the pain someone took to write all this down without copy paste
03:39.54RogueShadowI have no guys high enough to goto scholomance tho. lol
03:39.59Pzyk=/
03:40.05PzykI'll go stealth run it then
03:40.05RogueShadowscreenshots
03:40.12Kirkburn|sleepWhat's your highest?
03:40.12PzykI have nothing else to do
03:40.19bleeterWait for blizzcon, get Kaydeethree to say to metzen 'lolwtfhelp4editsplz!!!' :)
03:40.31RogueShadow36 on alliance side,  32 horde side.
03:40.36Kaydeethreehaha
03:41.03Pzyklol
03:41.28RogueShadowalthough I was in western plaguelands today, going up and down the river killing turtles for turtle meat quest.
03:41.44RogueShadowRiver led there, but no turtles were there. so I went back.
03:41.50bleeterseriously, it's a legit question (though might wanna work on the phrasing). I think we all know lore's so rooted atm
03:42.10Kirkburn|sleepBtw, from next week I'm starting volunteer work with Wikia, likely starting a job with them - how much this'll affect my time on WoWWiki I dunno, but shouldn't do much
03:42.55Pzykwhat would that involve?
03:43.02Pzykoh!
03:43.12Pzykadd me to watchdogs!
03:43.13Kirkburn|sleepHelping out the gaming sections of Wikia
03:43.15Pzykpweeeze?
03:43.32Kirkburn|sleepI have no idea if it's working yet
03:43.51Pzykeh?
03:45.07Kirkburn|sleepPatrollers, I'm not sure the group is working right
03:45.09Kirkburn|sleepAnyway, done
03:45.39Pzykooh
03:45.48PzykI see exclamation marks
03:45.50Pzykthanks
03:50.56Kirkburn|sleepOh, it's working?
03:51.15Pzykyeah
03:51.29Kirkburn|sleepcool
03:58.40Kirkburn|sleepOooh, 17th century UK maps - http://faculty.oxy.edu/horowitz/home/johnspeed/index.htm
04:02.11Kirkburn|sleepLOL - http://www.neatorama.com/2007/06/17/happy-fathers-day/
04:02.36Pzykoh geez, lol
04:05.47Pzykschololol now
04:11.44RogueShadowmmm.. if I didn't have to slip I'd be tempted to actually contribute to the wiki, this feeling may go away, or just get forgotten about as I madly try to level up more.
04:11.55RogueShadowslip ... sleep. whatever.
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04:35.11Pzykgah!
04:35.16Pzykthe ingame book is old information too!
04:36.14Pzykhuh
04:36.22Pzykapparently someone changed it very recently
04:36.27Pzykgonna ask that user why he changed it
04:37.22Pzyko_O
04:37.29PzykApparently the guy's been editing lore books
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05:14.27Adysmorning laurly
05:19.08laurlyhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Downunder <--- check history thats got to be the winner :)
05:19.31laurlygoing though the stub list adding SD found that one
05:21.10laurlydo what are you still doing up adys
05:21.37Adysdecember heh
05:21.44Adysyeah well I didnt sleep ><
05:22.24laurlyhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Inner_Sanctum_%28Guild%29  <--- you adys on the site? you got a stub page
05:22.42Adysyea moved it out
05:22.50Adysfrom inner sanctum
05:22.53Adyssince its also a subzone
05:23.01Adysbtw Stub/Notorious
05:23.01laurlySD?
05:23.06Adysnah
05:23.18Adysthey got an easter egg just for them, notorious enough :)
05:23.38laurly:)
05:23.43AdysGuild:Inner Sanctum (Silvermoon EU)
05:23.50Adysthats the right title?
05:23.54Adysi r tired
05:23.59laurlyyup thats right.
05:24.21laurlyim going to run the bot though renaming everthing in a bit
05:24.30Adyshttp://www.wowwiki.com/Guild:Inner_Sanctum_%28Silvermoon_EU%29
05:24.34Adysthere we go, with the right stub
05:25.05laurlyperfect
05:25.36laurlyim just killing time before my daugher leaves for school trip :)
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05:33.55Karrionlaurly: you SD'd http://www.wowwiki.com/The_Touch_of_Chaos_%28guild%29?
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05:35.11KarrionI'm 100% certain that guild still exists (former member)
05:35.27AdysReason: 1.Disbanded:( The Touch of Chaos) is NOT on ( guild US or EU)
05:35.33Adysthe bot screwed up there
05:36.18Karrionhmm yeah looks like
05:36.19laurly5 days no kid this should be intersting :)
05:37.47laurlylet me re run the bot against that one
05:39.17Karriondid something happen to the armory? I'm getting a domain-squatting type site from armory.worldofwarcraft.com
05:39.50Bibi`ouFworks fine here
05:39.53Bibi`ouF1) you mistyped
05:39.55Karrionhmm maybe I just can't spell
05:39.59laurly2007-02-03 20:48:00 <-- thats when bot scanned that page.
05:40.08Bibi`ouF2) you got wtfpwned by a spyware changing your hosts file
05:40.21Bibi`ouF3) you mistypied
05:40.25Bibi`ouF:(
05:40.34Karrionlink from www. worked, mistyped I guess >.<
05:40.38laurlyik coffie no sugar.
05:45.48Karrionotoh, http://www.wowwiki.com/Guild:The_Flying_V_%28Terenas_US%29 should probably be SD'd
05:46.37laurlyits the  (guild) shes bombing out on brb fixing it
05:46.52Karrionit still exists, but only because nobody who's still in it has an active account, including the GM account
05:53.46laurlyfixed it!
05:53.53laurlythanks karrion for finding it
05:54.14Karrion;-)
05:56.42AdysMatthewS: you around?
05:57.09laurlyi need to figure out how to get mirc to flash when someone types my name in chat
05:57.30AdysMiranda does that nicely :>
05:58.28laurlyyeah but i have been using mirc for irc since 96 :/
05:59.42laurlywhat am i suposed to do all week with no kid :)
06:09.29AdysRC spam ..
06:09.39laurly?
06:09.41Adys-     07:00 (Deletion log)? [Gryphon?; Adys? (256×)]
06:10.53Adyshttp://www.wowwiki.com/Penny_Arcade_Alliance aww did they disband? :<
06:11.37Adys~ping
06:11.37infobotpong
06:11.48Adyswiki going down
06:15.34laurly?
06:16.03Pzykhey
06:16.23Pzykdo character articles go under the server or user namespace?
06:17.51laurlyare you sure bot seams fine.
06:21.29Adyswe should do a policy
06:21.38laurlyon?
06:21.52Adysany wiki article stating "This article is currently under construction" should be instantly deleted
06:22.01Pzykhahah
06:22.14Pzykreminds me of the 90s
06:22.16Adysno i mean, not only its utterly useless to precise that
06:22.32Pzykone of those "Under Construction" icons
06:22.35Adysbut its the same fucking thing every time, someone creates one with that as content and never updates it
06:22.41laurlyinstantly deleted if it hasnt been edited in a week maybe
06:22.58AdysPzyk: http://www.cs.utah.edu/~gk/atwork/
06:23.05laurlymore like abandoned pages or something
06:23.21Adysyea im being nice with 9 months
06:23.37laurlylove the ones where the guild page contains link to there guild site.
06:23.37Adysin fact any guild not edited since BC should be deleted since most likely disbanded haha
06:24.07laurlybot scanned them all if she found a server it still exists
06:24.32Adysyea any article just containing a link isnt worth being stubbed either
06:24.34Adysinsta SD
06:24.43laurlydid that adys
06:24.52Adysaye meant in general
06:25.07laurlywas wondering if i could do some kind of str len on the article if its under say 20 chars its silly
06:25.29Adyslol at the empty one btw
06:25.35laurly:)
06:25.40Adys{{guild}}{{stub/guild}}{{sd|empty}} ftw
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06:25.44laurlythought you would like that
06:25.50Adysyea
06:26.04Adysthis sure is a good cleanup
06:26.10laurlyafter 3 days my abitly to come up with real reasons was impaired
06:26.25laurlyi considered  {{guild}}{{stub/guild}}{{sd|just stupid}}
06:29.04Pzykgeez
06:29.19Pzykrecent changes page is spammed with deletes.
06:29.32Adys356 of them, i reached the cap
06:29.37Pzyklol
06:30.45Adysoh my god
06:30.46Adyshttp://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Construction
06:30.48Adyswho's the retard
06:31.15Adysno you know what
06:31.28Adysim not gonna bother delete that, ill just put it up at the top and bottom of the Main Page
06:35.37Adys+-     07:26 (Deletion log)? [Adys? (400×)]
06:35.40Adys<flex>
06:52.59AdysDone :D
06:54.05Pzykdone?
06:54.48Adyshttp://www.wowwiki.com/Special:BrokenRedirects
06:55.05Adyshttp://www.wowwiki.com/Category:Articles_for_speedy_deletion
06:55.17Pzykgeez
06:56.37Adysi need to make a screenshot of that
06:56.56Adyshttp://adys.stools.net/random/deletespam.png
06:57.09Adysnotice how im showing the last 500 changes..
06:58.44Adysgawd, so much red stuff on non enhanced RC
06:59.53laurlyadys bots renameing pages. what do you want to do with the ones she cant rename becouse the page exists.  basicly its a duplicate page
07:00.16Adyslink them on here and sort them manually
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07:00.30laurlygrats your down to 1 page :)
07:00.59AdysNone you mean OO
07:01.01AdysOo*
07:01.03laurlyjust want to do one more test on trying to move apage already moved.
07:01.16laurlythen i will just let her do the lot
07:17.15laurlyshes renaming the US guilds first then the EU ones
07:29.02laurlyhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Lemming_Juice <--- adys dup page can we just delete it ?
07:29.16Adysdone
07:29.56laurlyShes on O
07:31.19laurlyone for you to deal with
07:31.30laurlyhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Guild:Brutality_%28Kirin_Tor_US%29 vs http://www.wowwiki.com/Brutality_%28Kirin_Tor_US%29
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07:41.45laurlyadys you there?
07:41.49Adysy
07:42.18laurlyCategory:Alexstrasza Guilds Category:Alexstrasza US Guilds Category:Alexstrasza Europe Guilds  <---do we really need the first?
07:42.32Adysno
07:42.38Adysput the cat up for SD
07:42.52laurlygood im sding the ones that dont have an EU US on them and moving the guilds in the cat to where they should be
07:43.00Adysyea
07:43.12laurly<-- sd cracy
07:45.26Dottedso http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:Trollbane_Europe_Guilds is bad? :/
07:45.29DottedAdys
07:45.56Adysno clue for EU/Europe
07:46.20Dottedah nvm i read what laurly said wrong
07:47.26Dottedhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Category:All_Servers what about all the subcategories?
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07:47.54Dotted99% of them just link to the server article in the Server namespace but nothing else
07:48.26Dottedexept for http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:Server:Silver_Hand_US
07:49.01AdysI managed to make notepad crash
07:50.43Dottedwtf how?
07:51.50laurlythink i will set up the bot to make sure these nasty cats dont end up back in again
07:52.57laurlyCategory:Trollbane_Europe_Guilds  shouldnt be bad
07:53.33[NewsBot]GamePolitics: http://gamepolitics.com/2007/06/18/will-manhunt-2-come-under-fire-this-week/
07:53.55DottedAdys [NewsBot] is famous now
07:54.04AdysoO
07:54.18Dottedhttp://www.worldofraids.com/#4837
07:54.39Dottedbeing massivly abused in their channel :p
07:55.07laurlyrenaming EU pages
07:57.29Adyslol dotted
07:58.04laurlydo i get ponts for haveing the most edits in recent changes?
07:58.28Dottedhow many do you have?
07:58.36DottedLadySerena
07:58.38Dottedlaurly*
07:58.39laurlylots trying to clean up categories
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08:00.35Dottedyou dont beat my 117 article moves
08:00.42Dottedor whas it more
08:00.46Dottedcant remember
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08:03.40laurlyadys you there?
08:03.58Adyskinda
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08:05.01laurlycan you get back a page you deleted?
08:06.08Adysyea
08:07.21laurlyhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Guild:The_Three_Musketeers_%28Dragonblight_EU%29  <-- go find that
08:07.34laurlyhttp://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Laurly
08:07.41laurlyguy needs to move it out of the guilds category
08:08.49Adysok sec
08:09.30Adysdone
08:10.18laurlyhow do you want to catagorise that page since it cant be in the guilds category?
08:10.31AdysGog
08:10.41Adysor
08:10.42Adyswait
08:10.42laurlycould we make a sub cat called coolitions or soemthing?
08:10.53laurlywhats gog?
08:11.19Adyscheck your usertalk
08:11.22AdysGroup of Guilds
08:14.27laurlythink i will post on his user page as well so he gets the message
08:14.58laurlyor not he didnt sign his msg :/
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08:28.34laurlydamit bots got to scann them and add {{DEFAULTSORT:Casual Gamerz}}
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10:08.22laurlyadys still awake?
10:08.28Adysbarely
10:08.39laurlycan you deal with this
10:08.40laurlyhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Guild:Brutality_%28Kirin_Tor_US%29
10:08.53laurlyneed to move this page there but the diss page is there already
10:08.54laurlyhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Brutality_%28Kirin_Tor_US%29
10:10.09KartukHey guys, I got a question concerning the Hemet Nessingwary Article. Is it worth mentioning in that article that he once hunted in Decolace for sevreal years with a tauren that became one of his bestfriends before he began hunting in STV
10:16.51laurlyadys we have a winner http://www.wowwiki.com/Circle_of_Power no changes since april 2005?
10:17.00Adyszz
10:17.23laurlygo to bed before you break something
10:19.05DottedKartuk sure, cant see why that should be a problem
10:19.30Dottedunless its fanmade lore ofc ;)
10:19.50KartukNope its from a quest givin by some tauren NPC in Shadowprey Village
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10:27.59DottedKartuk then add it, and link the source :)
10:33.33[NewsBot]GamePolitics: http://gamepolitics.com/2007/06/18/anti-game-hoax-site-back-in-business/
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11:23.34[NewsBot]GamePolitics: http://gamepolitics.com/2007/06/18/v-tech-rampage-creator-gets-16th-minute-of-fame-cease-and-desist-from-riaa/
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12:08.00[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/06/18/breakfast-topic-the-trading-card-game/
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12:48.30Bibi`ouFdamn, external Links on boss pages are really a mess o_O
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12:52.18KasoBibi`ouF, you mean the twenty million elinks?
12:52.46Bibi`ouFyeah, and also *insert a guild progress site* spamming them
12:52.49Bagginswwhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Draenei#indirectly_responsible_for_the_orcs_corruption
12:53.04Bibi`ouFDraeneis are the new elves
12:53.09Bibi`ouFSomething went wrong ? blame the draenei.
12:53.11Bagginswwgg... zarnks form of arguement still reminds of angry ogres...
12:53.13Bagginsww:p
12:53.27BagginswwWonders if they are one and the same person :p
12:54.13foxlitName a BoE item :)
12:55.30Bibi`ouFStaff of Jordan
12:55.53foxlit#do Staff of Jordan
12:55.54FoxbotKasoBot, do 873
12:56.04Pzyklol
12:56.18Pzyk<PROTECTED>
12:56.38foxlitThanks :)
12:57.36foxlitAnd a BoU item?
12:57.50PzykBlack Dragon Hatchling
12:57.53Pzykerr
12:58.03Pzykmaybe black dragon whelpling
12:58.09Pzykone of the pets
12:58.09foxlit#do Black Dragon Hatchling
12:58.11FoxbotSorry, foxlit, I can't find the item.
12:58.15foxlit#do black dragon whelpling
12:58.16FoxbotSorry, foxlit, I can't find the item.
12:58.33foxlit#do Cockroach
12:58.34FoxbotKasoBot, do 10393
12:58.46Pzykdamn it was dark whelpling
12:59.51foxlitI'm rewriting the tooltip parser atm, so I needed some lookup values for binding types :)
13:00.10Pzykah
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13:10.35DottedFisker- http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=296389909&postId=2963244709&sid=1#54 :D:D::D:D:D:D::D:D
13:10.53Pzykdidn't you do this yesterday?
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13:37.59laurlyevil bots.
13:39.31laurlyyou guys checked out how nice http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:Guilds looks :)
13:44.12[NewsBot]MMO Champion: This is just the beginning ... - http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=318.0
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13:54.36foxlitBah, should mod tooltip to not show Unique (1) if unique == 1
13:55.17Kasothe tooltip template you mean?
13:55.22foxlitYep
13:55.27Kaso|unique=   shows it with ()
13:55.32foxlitToo lazy to write a transform
13:55.38Hobinheim|worktransform from what to what
13:55.39foxlithttp://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Sandbox/1
13:55.41Kaso|unique=<number> shows it with ()
13:56.02foxlitHobinheim|work: from XML supplied to armory to {{tooltip}}-friendlier form
13:56.08foxlitto=by
13:56.13Kasoabove i mean |unique= without argument shows it without ()
13:57.01foxlitWould be nice to have it not show brackets when it's 1
13:57.39Kasowould be nice, but surely it is easier to change your code than force the wiki to reprocess serval thousand tooltips
13:57.56foxlitDunno, reprocessing is cheap
13:58.48foxlit#do Scryer's Bloodgem
13:58.49FoxbotKasoBot, do 29132
13:59.19foxlitSilly what they do with bonusHitSpellRating and bonusCritSpellRating
14:03.24foxlitAnd all the other ratings :/
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14:06.31foxlitKaso, question: what's with the two sections of ratingsDictionary.lua? :)
14:07.25Kasothe lower ones were ones i couldnt find blizzard translations for at the time i wrote it
14:07.44foxlitSome elements appear twice?
14:07.55Kasohmm thats true
14:08.01[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/06/18/around-azeroth-but-where-does-the-water-come-from-revisited/
14:08.04Kasonot sure what i was doing there
14:08.16Kasothose should prob be removed :>
14:08.39foxlitAnd then things like
14:08.39foxlit["DefenseSkillRating"]="Equip: Improves your defense rating by %s.",
14:08.40foxlit["increase-defense"]="Equip: Increases defense rating by",
14:09.10Kasoincreases defense is used on old items, the former is used on the newer items
14:09.29Kasoand you might wanna check armory to see if they updated any of those, i recall that one of them was used on the legendary bow so i guess at least some new ones are there
14:11.06Kasoevery time i look at iconsDictionary.lua it pisses me off i cant think of a better way to do that
14:11.47foxlitThe better way tod o that would be to lowercase the entire wiki icon collection
14:12.56foxlitAlso, ratingsdictionary starts with uppercase tag names; XML starts iwth lower case. You transform them somewhere along th eline?
14:13.16foxlits/starts with uppercase tag names/tag names start with uppercase letters/
14:14.51Kasonot that i recall, and i cant think of why i would do that..
14:14.52Kasoumm
14:15.23Kasoif ratingsDictionary[ratingType.."Rating"] then
14:15.59Kasoperhaps they changed the xml
14:16.09foxlitNah, you just skip bonus :)
14:18.54Kasooh bonus i getcha
14:21.29Kaso<bonus(%a-)Rating>(%d-)</bonus%a-Rating>
14:21.30Kasothat you mean
14:24.00foxlitYep
14:24.13foxlithttp://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Sandbox/1
14:25.07foxlitDoes cost take an obnoxious copper price?
14:25.12foxlit{{cost|239482309483209482039}}
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14:26.57foxlit#do Band of Fridgid Elements
14:26.59FoxbotSorry, foxlit, I can't find the item.
14:27.11foxlit#do Band of Frigid Elements
14:27.12FoxbotKasoBot, do 32779
14:27.16foxlit#doid 32779
14:27.20FoxbotTooltip saved in [[WoWWiki:Sandbox/1]], foxlit.
14:32.58foxlit"Improves hit avoidance rating by" ?
14:39.36Kasowtf ^_-
14:39.46Kasois that one in the xsd stuff?
14:40.34foxlitI actually found that in ratingsdictionary; looking through the web gives a blizzard XML strings file
14:41.23foxlitarmory.worldofwarcraft.com/strings/en_us/strings.xml
14:45.27KasoSo sometime in the future we'll be able to get -hit vs us gear
14:45.33Kasointerestingly useless
14:47.10foxlitwell, resilience mitigates crits; perhaps something similar for hits
14:47.33foxlitSomething along the lines of -x damage per melee attack, maybe
14:47.48foxlit#do Skullflame Shield
14:47.49FoxbotKasoBot, do 1168
14:47.52foxlit#doid 1168
14:47.55FoxbotTooltip saved in [[WoWWiki:Sandbox/1]], foxlit.
14:49.11foxlit#mload witem
14:49.23foxlit#mload witem
14:49.34foxlit#mload witem
14:49.34FoxbotLoaded [witem]
14:49.37foxlit#doid 1168
14:50.06foxlit#mload witem
14:50.06FoxbotLoaded [witem]
14:50.07foxlit#doid 1168
14:50.11FoxbotTooltip saved in [[WoWWiki:Sandbox/1]], foxlit.
14:50.24foxlitHm, I should be doing this in another channel
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15:08.02[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/06/18/officers-quarters-the-raid-farming-blues/
15:43.02[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/06/18/tobold-cancels-his-account-until-next-expansion/
15:55.57Fisker-OH LAWD
15:56.04Fisker-Is that some QQ i can't get attuned to SSC?
15:56.09Fisker-Probably the easiest quest ever
15:56.13Fisker-Can be done in under 3 hours
15:56.20Fisker-quest start, quest objectives and quest end included
15:56.55jmethe kara attunement took me freaking forever just because i had to wait over a week to get a group for BM
15:57.14foxlitjme: pug it?
15:57.45jmefoxlit: yeah, that's how long i waited to find a pug. i was lfg every night :/
15:57.51Pzyk=/
15:57.53Fisker-must say that BM + pugs = DONT
15:57.57Pzykwhy?
15:58.00PzykBM is easy
15:58.01jmeFisker-: usually i agree
15:58.10jmeunless it's an experienced group from the raiding guilds, like i found
15:58.24jmewe ended up running BM twice and something else in under 2 hours, we worked together well
15:58.32Fisker-BM is easy but it doesn't really suit many pugs
15:58.42Pzykmeh
15:58.42jmeyeah. i've been in some really bad BM pugs.
15:58.47Pzykthat's why I like being the tank
15:58.53Pzykless chance for stuff to screw up
15:59.01Fisker-I was in a pug where the tank went afk before the second boss
15:59.09jmestupid thing is i've been attuned for what... 3 weeks now and still haven't been in kara yet.
15:59.23Fisker-I wish i had a device that allowed me to punch people in the face over long distances
15:59.27jmelet alone gruul and mag
15:59.34Fisker-unfortunately that wasn't the case so we wiped shortly after completing the boss
15:59.47Fisker-infact so fast that the corpse despawned as we killed him and thus no loot :<
15:59.47jmeheh
16:00.30jmei don't plan on going back to BM unless it's heroic, i got all the loot i need.. and i'm not really geared for heroics yet
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16:09.22TecnoBratwiki really slow for anyone else?
16:09.56Apollozeus<Fisker-> BM is easy but it doesn't really suit many pugs <-- the thing is..
16:10.01Apollozeusso many things that can go wrong
16:10.16foxlit!jobqueue
16:10.17[NewsBot]The job queue length is currently 0
16:10.19Apollozeustank with like 9k health, an incapable DPS'er on the adds or badly geared healer
16:10.22foxlitNope
16:10.50Pzyk=/
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16:11.14Pzykonly time I've failed at BM was when I was trying to heal it in greens
16:11.30KasoApollozeus, i think BM is one of the very few instances that requires good dps, and most pugs i know the dps tend to be asleep, and get away with it, where as its not quite the same for tanks or healers.
16:11.31Pzykdoesn't work so great when the tank gets a 6+ stack on the 2nd boss
16:11.50Pzykthat can't be right kaso
16:11.53Apollozeusyeah
16:11.59Pzykdps never have to pay attention anyways
16:12.00Apollozeusthe dragonspawns must be killed quick
16:12.04Apollozeusotherwise, it's a wipe
16:12.25Pzykat most it's three buttons required for dps
16:12.36Pzyk(then again, for druid tank, I use two.)
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16:12.47foxlit#do Tree-Mender's Belt
16:12.48FoxbotKasoBot, do 29264
16:12.51Apollozeushmm, I use a lot more
16:13.10Pzykfox, figure out a way for the bot to dupe me one of those.
16:13.14Apollozeusfire ball, fire blast, two damage trinkets, combustion
16:13.35PzykI have a macro for all my activatibles
16:13.44Pzykless hassle
16:13.45foxlitMahaha.
16:13.47ApollozeusI do it oldschool :p
16:13.53foxlitI play the most challenging dps class ever - oomkin
16:14.03Pzykpsh
16:14.07Pzykthat's even less.
16:14.12Pzykinsect swarm -> starfire
16:14.14Apollozeusyes, I want a boomkin druid as well.. just can't get myself to level it up D:
16:14.15foxlitOh no it's not.
16:14.19TecnoBratfoxlit, so you spam moonfire, eh?>
16:14.28foxlitIS, MF, SF, FF
16:14.35Pzykeww
16:14.41PzykMF in your rotation isn't good
16:14.53foxlitJustify!
16:15.11Pzykoverall average damage done by a MF is less than a wrath
16:15.17Pzykand costs more
16:15.28Pzykand you're spending the same amount of time, even though it's "instant"
16:15.40laurlyarmory down?
16:15.44Pzykbetter off to just put that time into your regular spells
16:15.46foxlitI killed it!
16:15.58PzykIS is good because it's impossibly cheap
16:16.08foxlitIS is good because it's -2% hit
16:16.11Pzyk(until you compare it to them damn afflic locks)
16:16.35foxlitAnd let's say I don't agree with your assessment of moonfire
16:17.18PzykI could try mathcrafting it right now, got nothing else to do
16:17.27foxlitLet me do it for you
16:17.30Pzykwtflux, wowhead is down too
16:17.33foxlit305-357 base, 600 over 12
16:17.52foxlitWrath is 381-429 base
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16:19.22Pzykyes?
16:19.55foxlitEnd of story, really
16:20.01foxlitMoonfire is better dps than wrath.
16:20.03Pzyknot at all.
16:22.04TecnoBrathow do you figure?
16:22.22TecnoBratalmost the same damage, with a dot that ticks while you cast other spells
16:22.32TecnoBratthats like saying SW:P isnt worth casting
16:22.54Pzykall we're interested in is the total amount of damage that the spell will do
16:23.06Pzykit doesn't matter whether it's a dot or not
16:23.28Pzykthat's what I'm calculating right now
16:28.14TecnoBratwrath = 405 avg dmg, 1.5 sec cast, 255 mana. Which is 270 dmg/s casting time, 1.59 damage/mana. Moonfire = 931 avg dmg, 1.5 sec cast effective, 495 mana. Which is 621 dmg/s casting time, 1.88 d/m
16:28.17TecnoBrathow is that worse?
16:28.45Pzykbecause that's assuming 0% crit and 0 +dmg.
16:28.50Pzykit doesn't work like that.
16:33.01[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/06/18/wow-moviewatch-the-peace-circle/
16:33.08Pzyknot to mention that moonfire has horrendous dpm
16:33.41foxlitnownow, if I wanted dpm, I'd be spamming starfire
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16:35.07Pzykdps is still limited by how long you can keep something going you know
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16:39.45foxlitDon't go there, you'll bury yourself in more calculations
16:40.02PzykI'm not
16:40.04PzykI'm just saying
16:41.20foxlitYou need some rather insane conditions for wrath to win dps over moonfire
16:41.46foxlitAnd if they're achieved, you're better off spamming starfire and laughing at all the crits
16:42.31PzykI don't particularly like starfire unless I have a pocket warlock
16:42.50foxlitwarlocks are plentiful
16:43.11Pzyk=/
16:44.37foxlitcalcs are messy, but what Tecno said was an accurate simplification
16:44.50foxlitmoonfire wins over wrath in base damage
16:44.59Pzykthat's a gross oversimplification
16:45.00foxlitBoth should recieve approxmiately the same from spelldamage
16:46.56foxlit(if anything, moonfire should probably get more on the dot)
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16:47.05TecnoBratmoonfire gets 80% from the dot
16:47.09Pzyk57%
16:47.16TecnoBrat80%
16:47.19Pzykno
16:47.22TecnoBrat12/15
16:47.24Pzykthe spell has two parts
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16:47.33TecnoBratYes, the DOT gets 80%
16:47.34Pzykan initial damage and a dot
16:47.42foxlitWrath sits at around ~67% with wrath of cenarious
16:48.21Pzyksame reason why flame shock doesn't get 80% on its dot
16:49.57foxlitHm, I wonder
16:50.04foxlitNumbers on my spellbar don't match wowwiki
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16:52.41foxlitPzyk is right, it's 57% of spelldamage on the dot
16:53.12foxlitAnd moonfury adds on top of spelldamage, which had me worried for a bit
16:53.45foxlitBut basically, it comes down to whether its increased benefit from crits can rescue wrath or not
16:54.49foxlitAt the sametime, moonfire has a higher crit chance, and benefits from things like CoS
17:01.08Pzykmmk
17:01.58Pzykwith 650 spell damage, 20% crit, moonfire does around 400 more damage
17:03.59foxlit650 sd is kind of low :)
17:04.19Pzykit's the amount I had before I stopped focusing on rounding out my gear
17:05.04Pzykthere's no sizable change in the amount difference when upping to 900 dmg and 0.3 crit
17:06.17foxlitThere's another thing
17:06.48foxlitThe focus of moonfire, besides its somewhat inefficient dps is to actually proc nature's grace
17:07.30Pzyka bit costly for an ounce more raid dps
17:07.31foxlit(hence the +crit to moonfire talent)
17:07.39foxlitmanawise, yes.
17:07.56foxlitBut hey, shadowpriests, postions, and blessing of elune cover most things nicely.
17:08.00foxlit*potions
17:10.00Pzykone of my pallies carries an alchemist's stone for the purpose of pots
17:10.20foxlitCan't hotswap trinkets, though :(
17:10.28Pzykhe keeps it on all the time
17:11.02TecnoBratyour pally uses pots?
17:11.11TecnoBrathe needs more mp5 imo
17:11.29Pzykit's 140 mp5 if he uses pots
17:11.40Pzyknot that he needs it
17:11.47TecnoBratI have to use 1 mana pot on hydross, spamming the whole time, no shadow priest
17:12.05Pzykbut if we're working on new stuff, we use pots and all that
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17:12.34TecnoBrathe has 140mp5 unbuffed?
17:12.36Pzykno
17:12.48Pzyksuper mana pot + stone = 140 mp5 on average
17:13.24Pzyknot many trinks give that type of boost
17:14.26TecnoBratI use *maybe* 1 pot per raid
17:14.41foxlitMy simplistic XML table transform has an issue :(
17:14.42TecnoBratobviously more if we are learning a long boss fight (like hydross)
17:14.52TecnoBratI used like 5 on a night of attemots
17:14.56TecnoBratattempts*
17:14.58Pzykwhen you get 14 free mana pots per week, you might be more liberal with them. =P
17:15.31TecnoBratI didnt even need to pot on Hydross, I did it when he was at like 20%, and I was at 40% mana
17:15.44TecnoBratI was just being safe :P
17:15.57TecnoBratpaladins are really efficient
17:16.15foxlitNeed more nerfhugs!
17:16.46TecnoBratfoxlit, there is a reason I didnt disagree with the SP / Illumn nerfs
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17:17.21PzykSP?
17:17.28Pzykwhich one's that?
17:18.01[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/06/18/wow-tcg-interview-with-mike-hummel-senior-game-designer/
17:21.18TecnoBratthe one where paladins got mana back for overheals
17:21.26TecnoBratso VE was giving paladins mana at full health
17:21.43Pzykoh that
17:21.57Pzykyeah, I didn't think about that until after the patch
17:22.05TecnoBratit was hax
17:22.09TecnoBratreally OP
17:22.15Pzykthat is pretty ghey
17:22.44TecnoBratsome of our paladins have like 70 mp5, so they are chugging pots like nuts
17:22.55Pzykonly? -.-
17:22.59TecnoBratI'm sitting at 136 mp5 unbuffed, and rarely have any issue
17:23.19Pzykyeah, they gotta switch from being too crit dependent
17:24.09TecnoBrat#char us korgath barbanus
17:24.11FoxbotTecnoBrat: Barbanus, Level 70 Paladin (42/19/0). 7877 HP; 10878 Mana; 126 Str; 13751 Armor; 136 mp5; +91 spell crit rating; 1667 +heal.
17:24.12TecnoBrat#char us korgath crocstar
17:24.14FoxbotTecnoBrat: Crocstar, Level 70 Paladin (41/20/0). 8227 HP; 10998 Mana; 134 Str; 14733 Armor; 81 mp5; +129 spell crit rating; 1668 +heal.
17:24.30TecnoBrat#char us korgath millea
17:24.32FoxbotTecnoBrat: Millea, Level 70 Paladin (51/0/10). 9087 HP; 11253 Mana; 164 Str; 101 Agi; 14168 Armor; +196 spell crit rating; 1428 +heal.
17:25.07TecnoBratwtf, it doesnt show any mp5 for millea
17:25.08foxlitAnyone following theorycraft closely enough to resolve what's going on inside random rolls?
17:25.15TecnoBrat!armory us korgath millea
17:25.15[NewsBot]Millea's Armory Profile: http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Korgath&n=Millea
17:25.46Pzykwhat do you mean by random rolls?
17:26.03TecnoBratMillea has 65 mp5, heh
17:26.06foxlitMainly hwo the game determines whether you crit, miss, dodge, hit or galance and stuff
17:26.16foxlitIs character-tab crit% the same as your actual observed crit%?
17:26.22foxlitCan you miss some crits?
17:26.22TecnoBratoh, you mean the attack table?
17:26.27Pzykagainst even level mobs yes
17:26.33Pzykregular attacks = 1 roll system
17:26.43foxlitAgainst mobs three levels above you, mainly
17:26.55foxlitAnd spells and yellow stuff?
17:27.04Pzykspells I'm looking into at the moment
17:27.14Pzykscouring elitist jerks and mage forums
17:27.56Pzykthe attack table is largely documented and basically documented to be true for physical attacks
17:28.08Pzykbut spells I don't think anyone's reached a consensus on
17:29.55Saranolooking at a mutilate build but i can come to an awnser if to take Dagger Specialization or Opportunity
17:30.49Pzykquestion: PVP or PVE?
17:31.01Saranoah sorry PvE
17:31.24Pzykbase crit rate?
17:31.40Sarano19.59
17:31.58Saranowith a Shadowstep build atm
17:32.22Sarano13.49 base
17:34.38Pzykhmm
17:35.01Bagginswwwell I ordered my new video card, only problem I need to buy a new cpu, ram, and motherboard to go with it :p
17:35.13PzykWell if you're trying to make an overall balanced build that'll let you do both PVP and PVE decently, I'd stick with dagger specialization
17:35.19Bagginswwgefore 8800 ultra
17:35.30Pzykhow much do those cost now?
17:35.57Pzykwow. $800 on froogle
17:36.01Saranook na going for pve to get the good gear
17:36.07Bagginswwaround 900 but I found one company selling them for 650
17:36.17Saranowanna see my build?
17:36.25Pzykwell if you're going solely for pve I'd go combat
17:36.30Bagginswwand I"m definitley not going for sli
17:36.34Bagginswwalthough that sounds tasty
17:36.38Pzyklol
17:36.43BagginswwLOL
17:37.03PzykI'm not enough of a graphics whore to want sli
17:37.08BagginswwI want intel 8 meg extreme dual coar, but not sure where to find one :p
17:37.08Saranookey thx man
17:37.21Pzyk-.-
17:37.24Bagginswwnot enough products utilize sli to its fullist
17:37.26Bagginsww*fullest
17:37.32Bagginswwfor it to be worth it
17:37.46Pzykit's still a decent upgrade though
17:38.05Pzykunless sli somehow slipped and fell a few notches since last I paid attention
17:38.54Bagginswwlol ya
17:39.13Bagginswwthough I've heard two sli gtx is about the same as one ultra
17:39.36Bagginswwalthough increase is dependent on games that can utilize it
17:40.20Pzyksli profiles can be manually tweaked though
17:40.24Bagginswwtrue
17:41.13Bagginswwbut the games designed to utilize it form the get go, have the best increases
17:41.27Bagginswwolder games use more of an emulation
17:41.39Bagginswwwhich might actually slow things down for some games
17:41.48Pzykemulation?
17:42.06Bagginswwits basically games that can't handle the "dual-core" nature or something like that
17:42.27Pzykhmm, I don't think that's been a problem with SLI for a while
17:42.34Bagginswwbelieve I only vaguly understand what hte articles ramble on about LOL
17:43.04Bagginswwwell ot be honest my last knowledge of sli is limited to the 6800, 6600 general of sli
17:43.36Bagginswwonly time I actually ran a sli system was back during Voodoo II era
17:43.48Bagginswwwhen it was pretty cheap to get two voodoo IIs
17:43.53Pzykhahah, I stopped looking at hardware when I finally stopped ogling all the stuff and bought my computer
17:43.57Gryphenstill cant run sli with dual monitors :/
17:44.04Pzykwhatttttt?
17:44.08Bagginswwhuh?
17:44.21Gryphencant have sli enabled and use dual monitors
17:44.31Bagginswwoh
17:44.32Pzykyou mean just in game right?
17:44.58Bagginswwit utilizes each process for each monitor right?
17:45.05Bagginsww*processor
17:45.13Grypheni setup my wifes machine sli and dual monitors, the second monitor wont display with sli enabled
17:45.23Gryphenhttp://nvidia.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/nvidia.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=217&p_created=1106679021&p_sid=TrhPUdDi&p_accessibility=0&p_redirect=&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9NDMmcF9wcm9kcz0wJnBfY2F0cz0wJnBfcHY9JnBfY3Y9JnBfc2VhcmNoX3R5cGU9YW5zd2Vycy5zZWFyY2hfbmwmcF9wYWdlPTEmcF9zZWFyY2hfdGV4dD1zbGk*&p_li=&p_topview=1
17:45.43Pzykcan you hot switch it?
17:45.54Pzykprobably not I think
17:45.56Gryphenya, but kinda worthless for our application
17:45.59BagginswwI think it has something to do with the way sli functions
17:46.06Gryphenwe have irc and TS on second monitors while playing
17:46.20Pzykyeah, I can't live without multiple monitors
17:46.36Bagginswwas I recall one handles graphics from the middle of hte screen up, and the other from the middle of the screen down?
17:46.55Pzykbaggins: it depends on the type of SLI used
17:46.58foxlithttp://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Sandbox/1
17:47.01Bagginswwahh
17:47.11Gryphenyeah i cant remember exactly, havent had sli enabled since i built her machine
17:47.17Pzykbut essentially the two GPUs will focus together for only one monitor
17:47.23foxlitIs spacing between stamina and agility, and intellect and strength bigger than between agility and intellect?
17:47.33Pzykyeah
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17:47.55Bagginswwwhat cards do you have in the machine?
17:47.59foxlitWhy :/
17:48.03Pzykinteresting.
17:48.25Pzykdon't put each attribute on each line
17:48.37Pzykcause you already have the <br /> in between em
17:48.49Pzykhttp://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Sandbox/1
17:48.51Pzyklook at it now
17:49.31KolkySo i've got a question, im working on creating a website about world of warcraft raid progress. (it might attract big traffic, as we are ex-nihilum website designers and got some great idea's the public hopefully like) Is it ok if we link to articles on the WowWiki site?
17:49.48foxlitEvil, tbh
17:49.58Bagginswwbut ya my current card is a 6800 ultra. Its handled things well for hte last few years, but its bugging out with my motherboard. Both asus and nvidia ( and hte manufacturer of the cardblaim each other) of it being a driver issue. But I've updated all drivers like each party has said LOL.
17:50.01Kolkywe aren't done yet, but i guessed better ask before doing so
17:50.02foxlitAnd if you remove br and keep newlines, only strength and agility appear on new lines
17:50.03foxlitdinner
17:50.19Pzykit's cause of how the wiki system works
17:50.28Pzykonly does a new paragraph every two newlines
17:50.31Bagginswwcausing strange crashes with scrolling text and you tube.
17:50.45Pzykkolky: I'm sure it'd be fine
17:51.07BagginswwWith direct x ten I feel its time to leave the machine behind.
17:51.41PzykI still need a compelling reason to switch to vista.
17:51.46Bagginswwbut they have changed so much since I built my old computer :P... LOL. So basically going to have to start from scratch, only save a few parts.
17:52.02BagginswwI'm not sure I want to switch to vist just yet
17:52.06Grypheni switched to vista cause i got it cheap
17:52.10Bagginswwnot enough stuff out there using direct x 10
17:52.28PzykI found out there's a possibility to play Lost Planet and Halo 2 on XP, so I'm like... why bother?
17:52.40Bagginswwand giving it a good year and hallf should give them enough time to get rid of the more annoying bugs :p
17:53.19Kolky[19:51:47] <@Gryphen> i switched to vista cause i got it cheap --> attend a microsoft developer meeting and get a free-2month-technet account and you get to download valid Vista Ultimate Installs + Keys
17:53.32Kolky<3
17:53.37Bagginswwya pzyk most companies are putting in direct x 9 modes, or at least there are moders that working on ways to bypass directx 10 only products.
17:54.02Pzykor even better.... YOU attend a developer's meeting, come back here, and post all dem luvly keys
17:54.13Pzyk(developers!developers!developers!)
17:54.23Bagginswwgimme
17:54.26Bagginswwlol
17:54.38Kolky;)
17:54.52GryphenI have family and friends at MS, got 5x Ultimate for $50 each
17:54.58Bagginswwsweet
17:56.09Pzykargh
17:56.22Pzykwhenever I hear "developers", it reminds me of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMU0tzLwhbE
17:56.38Kolkyhaha :D
17:56.42laurlyhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Category:Family_Guilds  do we need that?
17:57.37Gryphendoesnt make sense to me
17:57.38Kolkyi've been at one of his meetings in holland, he's kinda funny :)
17:59.04laurlySD it is then
18:04.47laurlywow thats fast Speedydelete :/
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18:13.01Bagginswwso what is an awesome motherboard now adays?
18:13.25Bagginswwbesides asus brand, because I don't want to mess with them again :p
18:13.36BagginswwI want to try a true gaming brand.
18:14.17Pzykgigabyte?
18:14.39Pzykabit
18:14.49Bagginswwya those were the companies I was looking into
18:15.06Bagginswwjust not sure which specific model to look into
18:15.29Pzykif you do go for abit, make sure you don't get a mobo with the via chipset
18:15.34Pzyknothing but horrors for me
18:15.46Bagginswwok
18:16.10BagginswwI don't want anythiing with stupid onboard graphics... I'll end up disabling that anyways
18:16.36Pzyklol I don't think any decent mobos out there have any of those
18:16.37Bagginswwdual pcie probably a good idea, incase I feel like sliing it up later
18:16.57BagginswwPzyk, I agree, LOL
18:17.08Bagginswwnot a big fan of onboard sound either :p
18:17.32BagginswwI like my soundblaster card :p
18:17.42Pzyklol
18:17.50Pzyk<-- not a sound whore either
18:17.55Bagginswwlol
18:18.10Bagginswwwell I'm not going to upgrade my sound blaster, my model is still decent
18:18.35Bagginswwthx, 7.1 surround Audigy 2 Platinum
18:18.48BagginswwI know they have like Audigy 6 out now?
18:19.40Kirkburn|sleepAnd yet the Vista drivers are still  ... ugh
18:20.26Bagginsww:p
18:20.35Bagginswwfor soundblaster?
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18:20.40Bagginswwor everything in general?
18:21.01Kirkburn|sleepThe Vista drivers for my Audigy are still beta I think
18:21.53Bagginswwouch
18:26.58Gryphenonboard sound is so much better than it used to be
18:27.10Kirkburn|sleepV true
18:27.27foxlit*hypnotic message*You want to merge Tooltip/Dev into Tooltip... you want to merge...*hypnotic message*
18:27.28Gryphenive been using it for some time dropping an old audigy
18:33.01[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/06/18/m/
18:34.54foxlityou still want to merge tooltip/dev!
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18:38.49buchkurishhi
18:38.54buchkurishcan someone smart help me out maybe =)
18:39.02buchkurishi need a darn smart wow player =)
18:39.18foxlitNo, sorry, we're all bloody stupid.
18:39.38buchkurishfoxlit.. i didnt ask for ut o be a smart ass
18:39.39foxlit(ask away, though)
18:39.39cladhaire8-Ball says: "Who knows."
18:39.43buchkurishi nicely simple asked i need a smart head
18:39.46buchkurish.. ...
18:39.50buchkurishsome are noobs hre too
18:39.51buchkurishim sure
18:39.54buchkurishmaybe..
18:40.46buchkurishi have a level 49 rogue twink.. nearly full twink.. still working on him, trying to get his weapons enchanted with mongoose, but unfortunately thats my only toon. highest.. so im limted to farming
18:40.59buchkurishright now i farm sm chests.. but stuff on ah is selling slow now since i farmed so much same gear
18:41.13buchkurishdoes anyone have ne ideas for me.. i can not level though only have 30 kto level
18:41.17buchkurishand need over 2 k gold
18:41.35buchkurishhttp://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Agamaggan&n=Twstdbosnian
18:41.40buchkurishif any wanna check my gear out
18:41.46Jeremy2020level another toon to farm with
18:41.58Kirkburn|sleep~seen Skosiris
18:42.00infobotskosiris <n=sdgdsg@modemcable244.155-201-24.mc.videotron.ca> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowwiki, 23h 7m 2s ago, saying: 'kk'.
18:42.04buchkurishthats a good idea, it will take me forever
18:42.13Jeremy2020well, 2k gold is a lot
18:42.15buchkurishsoemthing that does not invole leveling again
18:42.18buchkurishyeah
18:42.22Jeremy2020buy gold
18:42.26buchkurishwell is like 100 gold /3 - 4 hours enough?
18:42.30Bagginswwprocessors sure of steep now, LOL
18:42.35buchkurishcuz i can get that juch from chest s
18:42.51buchkurish30% 200 gold
18:42.53buchkurish30$
18:42.56Jeremy2020at 49, that's about the best you'd probably get
18:43.03buchkurish60$ 400.. kind of getin expensive
18:43.15buchkurishJeremy2020: ok id probably agree
18:43.22buchkurishmaybe i should start looking for a good twink guild levle 49
18:43.25buchkurishthat could help me out
18:43.29buchkurishim a nasty rogue twink though
18:43.32buchkurish..darn good too
18:43.37buchkurishalways play wsg
18:44.14Kaydeethreehow do I set up Category:Netherwing]] so that the Netherwing article is at the top of the list, not in the 'N's?
18:44.50Gryphen[[Category:Netherwing |]]
18:44.53Gryphenerr
18:44.56Gryphen[[Category:Netherwing| ]]
18:45.29buchkurishJeremy2020: do u maybe know of a mod that will quick weapon switch?
18:45.37buchkurishswitch weapons from main hand to off hand.. etc
18:45.43Kaydeethreeah, awesome. thanks
18:47.18Kaydeethreebuch; you're better served asking in #wowi-lounge, but look into a mod like QuickWeaponSwap or some of the macros in the rogue forum at http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=85520861&postId=851762749&sid=1#4
18:47.39Kaydeethrees/QuickWeaponSwap/WeaponQuickSwap/
18:49.16buchkurishok
18:49.26buchkurishthanks
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19:00.17buchkurishi still dont know what macros are
19:00.22buchkurishcan someone tech me
19:00.30buchkurishhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=85520861&postId=851762749&sid=1#4
19:00.54buchkurisha bit confused how that works.. so u can set things when u push one button to switch weapons.. it will automatecaly ambush them if us et it?
19:01.56[NewsBot]Blizzplanet: Starcraft II - Karune Mini-Q&A - http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=1446
19:10.22Kirkburn|sleepCheck the wiki's pages on macros
19:10.37Pzykthe macro in that page is basically:
19:10.49Pzykone button that handles swapping your weapons
19:11.03Pzykthen you ambush, backstab whatever
19:11.20Pzykthen you press that button again to swap back your regular items.
19:11.39Pzykimo, it's not worth it.
19:12.05laurlyanyone good at templates got time to figure out how to get http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:Server:Blood_Furnace_US out of the guilds categorie?
19:12.05Gryphenbuchkurish there is a lot of Macro documentation on the wiki, http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Make_a_Macro
19:13.32Gryphenlaurly {{servercat}}
19:14.15laurlyahh :)
19:14.50laurlycleaning this up is taking ages.
19:18.11buchkurishoh
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19:23.45laurlyfinaly done. ....
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19:24.12laurlythatks for the clean up gryphen :)
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19:39.40buchkurishhow good is the mongoose enchant?
19:39.50Pzykvery good
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19:53.07foxlitPzyk: I would've accepted this |--------| good
19:53.21Pzykeh?
19:53.43foxlit<buchkurish> how good is the mongoose enchant?
19:54.21KirkburnGreat name for a guild: ZOMGLITTLEKITTYMJAUMJAU
19:56.21Pzykfoxlit: do you mean it's bad or good?
19:57.33foxlitIt's good, but arbirary designation of how good is a bit of an odd subject
19:57.53foxlitKirkburn: we had ZOMGPEWPEWLAZORZ!
19:58.10Pzykwell it's not like he asked a comparison.
19:58.36Pzykand what is mjaumjau?
19:58.55Pzykmyau myau?
19:58.56Kirkburnmeow meow
19:59.07KirkburnCat noises
19:59.22KirkburnYeah, "j" = "y"
19:59.48KirkburnI bet if I showed it to some english people they would pronounce the J sound :P
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20:13.06[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/06/18/diablo-movie-in-the-works/
20:14.17zeeghttp://login.curse.com/
20:14.20zeegenhanced preview ;)
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20:15.31Pzykclean
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20:17.41Sandwichman2448Yeah. Serathil is now cited. There was a fact check and so the info was deleted. But now the screenshot proves it!
20:18.12Pzykwarcraft 3/
20:18.35laurlyhttp://www.wowwiki.com/BFE_Raid_Team  <-- do gog pages have to comply with guild page naming policy?
20:19.43Pzyklogically it should go under the server namespace
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20:20.30laurlyits getting dumped into http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:Doomhammer_US_Guilds
20:20.58laurlyanyone intersted todate the winner was a guild page last edited by other then a bot April 2005
20:21.22Sandwichman2448Winner?
20:23.27laurlywhats the spawned boss in kara after you clear it?
20:24.07TecnoBratzeeg, I got an exception trying to signup :P
20:24.14Pzyknightbane?
20:24.24laurlyna they killed night bane
20:24.38Pzykwhat page are you talking about?
20:25.16zeegeep
20:25.27TecnoBratzeeg, want the details?
20:25.32zeegya if you could, dpaste.com
20:25.32TecnoBrator can you reproduce it
20:25.39zeegi did some tested, but not extensive
20:27.10TecnoBrathttp://dpaste.com/12489/
20:27.46zeegbtw, it uses your curse-gaming.com account
20:27.52zeegah, ok thats an easy fix
20:28.44laurlyohh i think the memory leak is gone...
20:29.18Gryphenis there any docs on how to create quest chains?  Ive seen Quest Chain:QuestName, Quest:QuestName/Chain, Quest:QuestName/QuestChain
20:30.09TecnoBratzeeg, ahh okay ... I logged in .. went to http://my.curse.com/tecnobrat/, which is a 404 :)
20:30.43zeegya you'll have to manually direct yourself to www.
20:30.46zeegi have to setup the conf for my.curse yet
20:31.00zeegwe're trying to finalize all those things today so we can send out invites later tonight
20:31.07TecnoBratcool :)
20:31.18TecnoBratyea .. that just tells me I need an invite, which makes sense
20:32.00laurlyGryphen i just use http://www.wowwiki.com/Boilerplate:Quest its got a list in there how quest chains look if thats what you mean.
20:32.31Grypheni mean, i see different methods currently being used
20:33.28laurlyi noticed that as well. but have never been able to find any policy on it.
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20:39.22Sandwichman2448OOH! A beer robot!
20:40.39jmewtb rhapsody malt
20:40.46Beer-Bot_v8-18:(
20:40.49Beer-Bot_v8-18I'm a person dammit
20:41.16jmewtb thunder ale?
20:42.07Sandwichman2448Then your name should be <Beer-person_V8-18>
20:42.30Sandwichman2448Very misleading
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20:45.50KirkburnA Diablo film seems to have been announced?
20:46.22TecnoBratsorta
20:46.37TecnoBratthe company that is doing the wow one, has stuff on their website for a diablo one too
20:47.25TecnoBrathttp://www.legendarypictures.com/
20:47.32TecnoBratbottom of the page, left side
20:47.56TecnoBratscroll down .. "In Development => World of Warcraft" and "In Development => Diablo"
20:49.39Sandwichman2448Eh... Dia blows. I like the more -craftesque games of Blizzard.
20:50.29Sandwichman2448Immature, Yes. but I like puns.
20:52.43Apollozeusmeh
20:52.58ApollozeusI really wonder whether that movie has been cancelled or not
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20:53.27Apollozeusthere has been NO news at all since its announcement
20:53.28Dottedno matter
20:56.21Sandwichman2448http://www.wowwiki.com/Deathlord Will this page be soon deleted?
20:59.16KirkburnIt's YOUR page >< ... if you are going to speculate in an article, please use the {{speculation}} banner
20:59.31Kirkburnerr
20:59.38Kirkburnnvm that, I just read the item
21:00.00DottedKirkburn clearly fails
21:00.36TecnoBratlol
21:01.11foxlitpsst, Krik, modify Template:Tooltip! :)
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21:01.48foxlitKirk even :(
21:02.07DottedShoesiris!
21:02.15Skosirisheya!
21:02.19Sandwichman2448Hi
21:02.35KirkburnSkosiris, hullo! The mining nodes, did you ever reset them?
21:02.49Skosirisyeah, we deleted them all! for some reason though, they reappeared :(
21:03.10[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/06/18/constructive-criticism-with-the-forums-and-the-armory/
21:03.19KirkburnGuess people are resubmitting old data still :/
21:04.04TecnoBratSkosiris, how'd your questing in WPL go? :P
21:04.47Sandwichman2448Pre-expantion?
21:04.49Skosirispretty good! killed a few scarlet knights/medics/hunters, found some parcel for an ol'emma, and now I'm 58
21:05.18SkosirisI set my hearthstone to Shattrath and plan on doing the quests in Hellfire Peninsula (for the 1st time!)
21:05.37TecnoBratyea, hellfire is the way to go
21:05.41TecnoBratwhat class btw?
21:06.11Skosirispriest
21:06.23Skosiris(shadow specced)
21:07.08Skosirishow's the questing in "HLP" as a level 58-60 character?
21:07.26Beer-Bot_v8-18hard
21:07.49Beer-Bot_v8-18i died sooo many times when TBC launched :(
21:08.20Beer-Bot_v8-18play with your sound on so you notice when your about to get stomped by a reaver
21:08.21Apollozeusstop kidding me
21:08.24ApollozeusI did it as a mage
21:08.27Apollozeusit's easy
21:08.41Beer-Bot_v8-18I did it as a hunter with a lvl 30 turtle :D
21:08.44Skosirisare there many quests available?
21:08.44ApollozeusXD
21:08.46Apollozeusyes
21:08.46Beer-Bot_v8-18yes
21:08.48Beer-Bot_v8-18lots
21:08.51Apollozeusmany of those orange though
21:09.08Beer-Bot_v8-18the pvp at tbc launch was nice as well
21:09.12Apollozeusget people to take you into the Ramparts if you feel insecure
21:09.23ApollozeusI got into groups when I was 58/59 :p
21:09.41DottedSkosiris take the average quest amount from the legacy zones and multiply them by, say 10 or so :p
21:10.08KirkburnI'd wait until 59 for HFP
21:10.16Apollozeuswell, the trick is the gear
21:10.22KirkburnYou really want to be 60 for most
21:10.30ApollozeusOutland greens are IMMEDIATELY better than azeroth greens
21:10.37Apollozeuslike, 20 ilevels or so
21:10.46Skosirismy current gear is mostly blues from brd/st/maraudon
21:10.47Beer-Bot_v8-18better than lots of gear :(
21:10.54Beer-Bot_v8-18replaced instantly basically
21:10.58GryphenOutland greens are IMMEDIATELY better than azeroth blues
21:11.03Apollozeusthat as well
21:11.12Skosiris-> http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Mug%27thol&n=Skosiris
21:11.19Beer-Bot_v8-18man, only reason why i can't start playing wow again
21:11.27Beer-Bot_v8-18is leveling is soooo boring after like 3 characters
21:11.29Beer-Bot_v8-18to 60
21:11.35Beer-Bot_v8-18and 1 to 70 :(
21:12.06Beer-Bot_v8-18Mug'thol, thats where I'm rolling if I start again
21:17.02KirkburnSkosiris, what I did was to do some easy HFP quests at 59, got the great quests rewards, then did some stuff back in Azeroth, since it was now much quicker and easier
21:17.35Sandwichman2448At 69 i still can not solo Grol.
21:17.40KirkburnHah, I only just replaced my Seal of Wrynn at 62!
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21:17.53Skosirislol
21:17.56Skosiriswhat did you replace it with?
21:18.30KirkburnAn agility ring
21:18.30Sandwichman2448http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Future_race_ideas#Nerubian_Image ...LOL or am I an ass?
21:18.32Kirkburn!armory eu Stormrage Chekov
21:18.49Sandwichman2448http://www.wowwiki.com/Grol_the_Destroyer = Unsoloable
21:18.51Kirkburn!al eu Stormrage Chekov
21:18.52[NewsBot]Chekov's Armory Profile: http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Stormrage&n=Chekov
21:18.57KirkburnSkosiris, ^
21:19.17Sandwichman2448Well, he is bugged.
21:19.25Beer-Bot_v8-18!al us Hrakgror
21:19.29Skosirisnice ring
21:19.33Beer-Bot_v8-18!al us Anub'Arak Hrakgror
21:20.09KirkburnI should probably have gone for the AP ring on the AH, but I only have about 8% to crit and I wanted to increase it :)
21:20.10Skosirishow much is the epic land mount?
21:20.11Adysthis cracked me uphttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=26368
21:20.17Adyshttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=26368 *
21:20.20Beer-Bot_v8-1840g?
21:20.23Kirkburn1000+100 (900+90)
21:20.33KirkburnWait
21:20.35Adysnah kirk
21:20.38Adys600+100
21:20.43KirkburnYeah :P
21:20.53KirkburnI forgot the change again >_>
21:21.00Skosiris630g total with the discount, right?
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21:21.17Sandwichman2448Mag's lair has it's own link in the template?
21:21.41KirkburnSkosiris, aye
21:22.02KirkburnBtw, Adys, I got myself the Swift Grey Ram, was getting bored of just having the Elekk =)
21:22.08Adys:P
21:22.21KirkburnMight have to visit Darnassus now to get a tiger too :D
21:22.37TecnoBratROFL
21:22.50Skosirislol
21:22.51TecnoBratAdys, thats awesome
21:23.06Adys:/
21:23.14Skosirisdid you need to grind reputation with Ironforge to buy the ram?
21:23.34KirkburnI did all draenei quests to 20
21:23.43KirkburnThen did all Human quests to 25
21:24.01KirkburnThen all IF/Gnome quests to 20, and did NE to 15ish
21:24.11Sandwichman2448http://www.wowwiki.com/Galak_Messenger keeps being deleted for being just this.
21:24.25KirkburnThat got me exalted with everyone except Gnomey (which handed in a bunch of RC for to get exalted later)
21:24.36TecnoBrathttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=25565 <= btw
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21:25.01KirkburnSandwichman2448, yes, empty stubs annoy us
21:25.41KirkburnIf you create a stub, put at least *some* info, they are not for just preventing red links
21:25.41Sandwichman2448It keeps coming back
21:25.54KirkburnDeleted it again, thanks for the link :P
21:25.55Sandwichman2448I only did that once
21:27.46Sandwichman2448Mag's lair has it's own link in the template? Why? Do all raid wings need one?
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21:34.38Sandwichman2448Nevermind...
21:40.46Sandwichman2448Any thoughts? Leave it? Remove?
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21:43.57BraveFootHey, is anyone out there today
21:44.22KirkburnWhat, out of the 72 people on the channel??
21:44.25Sandwichman2448Nope.
21:44.36Sandwichman2448None care though.
21:45.01BraveFootExpected as much
21:50.12foxlitLet me abuse you all for bugtesting
21:50.26foxlitYou can do #doitem (Item Name) to update the item tooltip displayed on http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Sandbox/1
21:50.39foxlitCheck that the tooltip is what it should be
21:54.16foxlit#doitem Nordrassil Wrath-Kilt
21:54.20FoxbotTooltip saved in [[WoWWiki:Sandbox/1]], foxlit.
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21:58.10foxlit#doitem Xi'ri's Gift
21:58.14FoxbotTooltip saved in [[WoWWiki:Sandbox/1]], foxlit.
21:59.30Sandwichman2448Xi'ri is cool.
22:05.19Sandwichman2448http://www.wowwiki.com/Void is a split canadate, likely because of my note. The term is used interchaineably I think.
22:08.39Sandwichman2448No comments as useual.
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22:12.35Sandwichman2448any thoughts?
22:13.03foxlit#doitem Xi'ri's Gift
22:13.07FoxbotTooltip saved in [[WoWWiki:Sandbox/1]], foxlit.
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22:33.01[NewzBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/06/18/the-fastest-class-to-level-with/
22:33.42Dottedwhy does my router always go down at night?
22:33.49Dottedalways
22:34.01Dottedbetween 0:00 and 3:00 always
22:34.11Dottedsomwhere in between it will die
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22:47.25Sandwichman2448Are http://www.wowwiki.com/Tales_of_the_Past and the sub page http://www.wowwiki.com/Battle_of_Khaz_Modan filed incorrectly? 'Official' fan fic is exempt from the stub.
22:50.08Sandwichman2448pie
22:50.38Dottedcake
22:50.45PzykCOBBLER
22:51.02BraveFootHow does fanfic become official, when its official, isn't it no longer fanfic?
22:51.12Sandwichman2448Ask Adys.
22:51.13clad|sleep8-Ball says: "That's not for me to say."
22:51.23Pzykwell if it's endorsed by blizzard
22:51.25Adysmeh?
22:51.36Dottedits fanfic created by official fans
22:51.59Sandwichman2448Official fanfic like illigal dainish and time Gnomes
22:52.00Pzykit could be created by fans but be endorsed by blizz
22:52.06Pzykthat's not official. =/
22:52.18DottedAsk should clad|sleep disable his rather annoying trigger for his 8ball script?
22:52.19clad|sleep8-Ball says: "Ask me again later"
22:52.22Sandwichman2448ADYS! >:( You lie!
22:52.26Dotted>_>
22:52.26BagginswwHey gryphen how does one set up the signup only system on a wiki? Or is that a sysop onling thing?
22:52.30Adysbusy atm
22:52.32foxlit<Pzyk> it's 140 mp5 if he uses pots
22:52.38foxlitPzyk: your math betrayed me!
22:52.43Pzykwhat?
22:52.59foxlitMana pots are 1800 - 3000 Mana on a 2 minute cooldown
22:53.02GryphenBagginsww i believe it's a config file setting on the server
22:53.07foxlit2400 average
22:53.11foxlit40% of 2400 is 960
22:53.12Bagginswwahh sysop thing eh?
22:53.20foxlit960 per 120 seconds == 8 per second == 40 per 5
22:53.31foxlitWru, 100 mp5?
22:53.53Pzyk2400 per 120 secs = 100 per 5
22:53.53Bagginswwwas hoping I could do a wiki wide protection to the king's uest omnipedia, its being hit by spambots again :p
22:53.58Pzykthere's your mp5. :P
22:54.04foxlitBoo hiss?
22:54.04Pzykyou misunderstood me
22:54.17foxlitYeah, I thought the trinket was equivalent to 140mp5 trinket :)
22:54.33Bagginswwfanart that's officially endorsed by blizzard is not "official fan art"
22:54.34foxlitBut it actually included the pots, making it just 40mp5 separately from them :)
22:54.39Pzykof course, he's also an alchemist
22:54.45Pzykso he can spam pots all day long
22:54.57BagginswwBut it means blizzard enjoyed.
22:55.03Sandwichman2448I have King's Quest. Old DOS text game right?
22:55.10Bagginswwgraphic adventure
22:55.38Bagginswwbut ya had to read text while moving your character around in real time
22:56.03Bagginswwhttp://www.sq7.org/KQ/index.php/Main_Page
22:56.43Pzykstill, a 40mp5 trink is nice
22:57.06Sandwichman2448'Official' fan fic like illigal dainish.
22:57.48Bagginswwilligal dainish?
22:57.57KirkburnIllegal Danish
22:58.02Bagginswwwhich is?
22:58.07foxlitIllegal.
22:58.12KirkburnMachinima
22:58.30BagginswwLike the flying mounts movie?
22:58.31foxlit!ap 2 1611
22:58.45Sandwichman2448EPIC FLIGHT FORM!
22:58.49Sandwichman2448BOOMKIN!
22:58.54foxlitThe Clefthoof Brigade
22:58.59Sandwichman2448THE CLASS ELIMINATEOR!
22:59.16foxlitWITH THE POWER TO TANK FIVE APES
22:59.18DottedIM AN ILLEGAL DANE
22:59.21DottedOH NOES
22:59.23Sandwichman2448http://www.myndflame.com/
22:59.25DottedWHAT TO DO?
22:59.35foxlitTurn yourself into integrationsstyrelsen
22:59.48foxlitin to
23:00.14Dottedwill do right away
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23:03.52Sandwichman2448Moved stuff...
23:05.33Bagginswwin anycase "official" fanfic" is one of those oxymoranic terms :p
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23:06.08Bagginsww'officially endorsed' is much clearer as far as meaning
23:06.25Bagginswwbut designates that its not actually "official"
23:07.37foxlitBlizzard-endorsed?
23:07.52Bagginswwofficial fanfic has double edged meaning of also possibly refering to "profic" as most authors of novels are also fans :p
23:07.57Bagginswwya foxlight that's even bettered
23:07.59Bagginsww*better
23:08.17Bagginswwit removes all possiblities of misinterpretation
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23:08.44Bagginswwalso Blizzard-endorsed fan production
23:08.55Bagginswwsounds better for something of the sort as machinanima
23:09.09Sandwichman2448Well, the phrase is inaccurate but I ment things like Illial dainish and such. Adys coined the term.
23:09.41Sandwichman2448http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:Fan_movies ?
23:12.24Sandwichman2448That fits.
23:12.43Sandwichman2448Cat page needs rewording.
23:14.05Sandwichman2448NVM I did it.
23:17.12Sandwichman2448Who has a bigger ego, me with my new pages and spamming links to my fan fic or the controvertial http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Peregrine2976#Contributions_to_WoWWiki
23:17.32Sandwichman2448I vote for 7
23:19.21Pzykthat page just seems....
23:19.33Pzykwhenever I see him update that I cringe.
23:19.41Sandwichman2448Sorry that was rude.
23:19.45Sandwichman2448I'm a jerk
23:21.54Sandwichman2448http://www.wowwiki.com/Galak_Messenger LOL guess what.
23:23.28Pzykoh  snap
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23:26.17TecnoBratI'm glad he added retnoob and retadin as official ingame terms
23:26.24TecnoBratwithout that, my life would not be complete
23:26.46Sandwichman2448LOL yeah
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23:29.33Sandwichman2448Deleted again! WOW! That stub don't quit.
23:30.23Sandwichman2448Prob'ly will quit now http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Jiyambi
23:32.48Sandwichman2448Yeah... I rarely stop talking/typeing.
23:34.00Bagginswwhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Medivh#Length_of_coma
23:34.39Dottedhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Huntard hurrah for quality wowwiki articles
23:35.10Bagginswwthere is a big reason why I try to avoid specific daes in articles sandwichman :p
23:35.22Bagginswwbecause they vary, from book to book :p
23:35.26Bagginsww*dates
23:35.45Bagginswwor I split the difference :p
23:36.01Bagginswwhe came out of his comba between six and twenty years :p
23:36.08Bagginsww*coma
23:36.15Sandwichman2448That is a good way 2 put it.
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23:37.58Sandwichman2448I was, in fact, serious. Bliz could explain it that way.
23:39.08Sandwichman2448Besides Gnome/dwarf tech, WoW is very midevil. Dark age people were often unegucated.
23:39.34Sandwichman2448therefore could not count or tell time.
23:40.38Pzykwait
23:40.48Pzykis the tempest keep draenei tech or naaru tech?
23:40.51Bagginswwso you claim lothar couldn't count?
23:41.06Bagginswwa great general, educated by the finest of scholars...
23:41.20Bagginswwyou sir are ludicrous ;)
23:41.36bleeterLothar: "Duhh.. one plus one is.. duh.. uhm... halpplz"
23:41.58AdysKirkburn: moo
23:42.01bleeter[Lothar]: WTB: more fingers
23:42.10KirkburnArg, and now you log off
23:42.49Bagginswwso Lothar was an ogre
23:43.02BagginswwLow common speaking swill
23:43.07Bagginsww;)
23:43.07bleeterso it'd seem
23:43.37Bagginswwexcept his journal was too well written and proves otherwise, :)
23:44.07Sandwichman2448I said often, not always
23:44.11bleeter[Lothar]: WTT 10kg 4 sum1 wiv l33t ghost riting skillz
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23:45.02KirkburnDotted, about Huntard, it's not an attack on (all) hunters. Probably could do with some rewriting though
23:45.15Dottedi know
23:45.23Dottedstill
23:45.23Sandwichman2448PZYK: i do not know if the naaru built it or the draenei did it for them, but they already had ships before they met, so they seem to be abe to build them themselves.
23:45.32Pzykit kinda is if he puts it into the hunter article
23:45.51Sandwichman2448Seems it may be just one hunter who rolled badly.
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23:47.28Bagginswwok its 6 year coman in WC1 manual
23:47.31Bagginsww*coma
23:47.46Pzykanyone know why there's a () next to Unique in http://www.wowwiki.com/Warglaive_of_Azzinoth
23:47.47Bagginswwmaybe I have the two mixed?
23:48.14GryphenPzyk that is mentioned on the tooltip talk page
23:48.22Gryphenthink there is a fix needed
23:49.44KirkburnThat page uses tooltip/dev
23:50.16Pzykhmm I remember that
23:50.27Pzykdon't remember why I didn't change it to regular tooltip though
23:50.39Sandwichman2448BAG! I said often not always... Unless lothar is the one who was counting. My bad. -.E
23:50.50BagginswwHe was counting :p
23:50.55Sandwichman2448-~E
23:50.58Adyswe should blow away the retardhelp and just make it standard so unique= always needs an arg
23:51.04Sandwichman2448{_G
23:51.19Adysif unique == 1 then "Unique" else "Unique ({{{unique}}})"
23:51.21Adystheres nothing simpler
23:51.27Sandwichman2448WOOT!
23:51.39Bagginsww"A treatise of the events leading to the war between Mankind and the Orcish horses as related by Sir Lothar, Knight of hte REalm"
23:52.17Adysbtw baggins
23:52.30Adys[[Fleshbeast]] should be the main Fleshbeast article
23:52.45Adysand move the current content to [[Fleshbeast (Mob)]]
23:52.57BagginswwHmm I agre
23:53.01[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/06/18/resilience-and-crit-activated-abilities/
23:53.12Bagginswwhow it currently?
23:53.28AdysFleshbeast is the article about the karazhan ones and theres no main article
23:53.41Bagginswwstrange
23:55.49Sandwichman2448Sorry for the Fan fic mix up. I did not stub the tales of the past pages fanfic BUT I DID NOT MAKE THEM!
23:57.30Sandwichman2448tales of the past has a lot of sub pages that are not sub pages.
23:58.23Pzykisn't that entirely peregrines?
23:58.31Sandwichman2448?
23:58.39Sandwichman2448No.
23:58.43Pzykmove that stuff under peregrine's user space
23:58.53Pzykand let him deal with it. =P
23:58.54Sandwichman2448He is just a big fan and keeps expanding.
23:59.03Sandwichman2448May be
23:59.13Sandwichman2448He is wrighting the book...
23:59.13Pzykbig fan of what?
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23:59.24Industrialanyone have a cam?
23:59.28Sandwichman2448tales of the past
23:59.36Industrialjoin the web-orgy. http://confabio.com/wowi-lounge
23:59.39Sandwichman2448Yeah... he likely made it
23:59.57Pzykoh I guess not

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