| 00:01.03 | foxlit | I'm around |
| 00:01.52 | Sky2042 | lootbox/missing isn't functioning correctly |
| 00:02.05 | Sky2042 | put an enter, like in most cases, and we get |
| 00:02.19 | Dotted | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10dWn8uUYN8 lolololol |
| 00:02.21 | Sky2042 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Archimonde_%28tactics%29#Loot |
| 00:02.48 | Sky2042 | ive seen it dotted |
| 00:03.20 | *** join/#wowwiki Devilkoul (n=b@75.141.40.208) |
| 00:03.32 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/06/09/beware-of-supertwink/ |
| 00:04.13 | foxlit | Yeah, great, wiki broke :( |
| 00:04.36 | LadySerena | Broken Link: http://www.wowwiki.com/Archimonde_%28tactics%29 |
| 00:04.46 | LadySerena | HTTP/1.1 500 |
| 00:04.57 | foxlit | It's not keeping my session currently, so I can't do anything |
| 00:05.22 | foxlit | By the looks of it, though, it needs something to strip the last two chars |
| 00:05.43 | Sky2042 | yuh huh |
| 00:05.51 | Sky2042 | getting rid of the enter creates a temporary fix |
| 00:08.54 | Sky2042 | dotted |
| 00:08.55 | Sky2042 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yV2c3jXuEz4 |
| 00:19.10 | foxlit | There seems to be no way to trim that programatically |
| 00:30.19 | Kirkburn|afk | http://www.google.co.uk/search?num=20&hl=en&safe=off&q=meowwiki&meta= ^^ |
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| 00:33.10 | Sky2042 | lol fucking awesome |
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| 00:37.26 | Sandwichman2448 | ... |
| 00:37.40 | Kaso | dots are fun |
| 00:37.56 | Sandwichman2448 | Someone IS on. |
| 00:38.01 | Kaso | on? |
| 00:38.10 | Sandwichman2448 | The channel |
| 00:38.20 | Kaso | there are 67 people on this channel |
| 00:38.41 | amro | 64. 3 are bots |
| 00:38.43 | Sandwichman2448 | None talking. |
| 00:38.43 | amro | if not more |
| 00:38.55 | Sandwichman2448 | I was boared. |
| 00:39.27 | *** part/#wowwiki freak020 (n=chatzill@cpe-68-201-206-79.houston.res.rr.com) |
| 00:39.33 | Kaso | are you saying bots dont have rights as people! |
| 00:40.05 | amro | technically speaking, they have the same user rights as the user that ran them =) |
| 00:40.23 | Sandwichman2448 | Yeah... |
| 00:40.34 | Kaso | cos this guy got arrested for trying to defend something you cast away so easily! |
| 00:40.35 | Kaso | http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2513678&pagenumber=1 |
| 00:42.05 | Sandwichman2448 | guess the judge fears robot overlords |
| 00:43.43 | *** join/#wowwiki Foxbot (n=Foxbot@0x573e6bae.albnxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 00:43.43 | Foxbot | Equal rights for foxbots! |
| 00:44.04 | foxlit | Let's call that the cameo appearance of the night :) |
| 00:44.25 | Sandwichman2448 | Dotted! >:( I'm callin' you out! "Kirkburn cant fix Sandwichman2448 :(" What is that supposed to mean! |
| 00:44.42 | Dotted | !wwstats |
| 00:44.44 | [NewsBot] | #wowwiki stats: http://www.bxd.dk/irc/wowwiki.html |
| 00:45.18 | Dotted | see "Most referenced nicks" on that page |
| 00:45.23 | Sandwichman2448 | I'm not broken... <:( |
| 00:45.38 | Dotted | on wwstats you are |
| 00:45.48 | Sandwichman2448 | Wha? Oh. Sorry |
| 00:45.51 | foxlit | kaso kaso kaso? |
| 00:45.57 | Zeal | boobies |
| 00:45.58 | Bagginsww | I still can't edit... |
| 00:46.00 | Kaso | kaso! kaso kaso, kaso kaso! |
| 00:46.10 | Kaso | kaso, kaso, kaso, kaso, kaso, kaso, kaso, kaso, kaso, kaso, kaso, kaso, kaso, kaso, kaso, kaso, kaso, kaso, kaso, kaso, kaso, kaso, kaso, kaso, kaso, kaso, kaso, kaso, kaso, kaso, kaso, kaso, kaso, kaso, kaso, kaso, kaso, kaso, kaso, kaso, kaso, kaso, kaso, kaso, kaso, kaso, kaso, kaso, kaso, kaso, kaso, kaso, kaso, kaso, kaso, kaso, kaso, kaso, kaso, kaso, kaso, kaso, kaso, kaso, kaso, kaso, kaso, kaso, kaso, kaso, kaso, kaso ! |
| 00:46.17 | Sandwichman2448 | It doesn't count if you say it. |
| 00:46.21 | Kaso | it does :> |
| 00:46.25 | Sandwichman2448 | Oh |
| 00:46.41 | Sandwichman2448 | Well, i cant spell mine, so you win. |
| 00:46.44 | Kaso | Kasomon? |
| 00:46.45 | foxlit | "Pika? Kaso!" |
| 00:46.50 | Kaso | do substrings work? |
| 00:46.53 | Sandwichman2448 | ANIME! EVIL! |
| 00:46.59 | foxlit | CHUUUUU! |
| 00:47.18 | Sandwichman2448 | I'll ch your uuuu. |
| 00:47.21 | foxlit | Nevertheless, it contributes a rather unique angle for irony and reflection |
| 00:47.21 | Bagginsww | MatthewsS? What's up with the loss of session data errors? |
| 00:47.51 | Sandwichman2448 | I got my Abyssal edits in. |
| 00:47.59 | Bagginsww | lucky you |
| 00:47.59 | Sandwichman2448 | then it broke once more. |
| 00:48.11 | Sandwichman2448 | Sorry |
| 00:48.53 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 00:49.24 | Bagginsww | 2 gs? |
| 00:49.28 | Kaso | i love how alias has like 15-20min log pre-intro sequences |
| 00:49.49 | Sandwichman2448 | Your name sir. |
| 00:50.01 | Bagginsww | oh |
| 00:50.34 | Bagginsww | YOu could misspell it Bagens and I'd probably not get upset. |
| 00:50.44 | Bagginsww | some people call me Bag, LOL |
| 00:50.54 | Bagginsww | or Teabags |
| 00:51.09 | Bagginsww | I'm a gnome, I just laugh |
| 00:51.11 | Zeal | hows "that guy there"? |
| 00:51.15 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 00:52.02 | Sandwichman2448 | What is Kos and his CM song? |
| 00:52.38 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Alleria_Windrunner#Classes |
| 00:53.29 | Sandwichman2448 | Yes... Point sir? |
| 00:53.44 | Sandwichman2448 | No problems there. |
| 00:53.50 | Bagginsww | oh just thought zeal might be interested in "reasoning behind barbarian" |
| 00:53.59 | Sandwichman2448 | Oh. |
| 00:54.24 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 00:54.41 | Bagginsww | So sandwich, what's the sandwich of the day? |
| 00:55.26 | Bagginsww | I'm a tuna salad fan myself. |
| 00:55.44 | Bagginsww | with lots of veggies |
| 00:56.37 | Dotted | i preffer the breakfast sandwich you can buy in stanstead airport in the UK |
| 00:56.57 | Bagginsww | oh? |
| 00:57.02 | Zeal | meh. depends what classes is being refered to. wow, RP, or both. |
| 00:57.14 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 00:57.33 | Bagginsww | I feel like I can read his thoughts |
| 00:58.02 | Zeal | but yeah, a few levels or w/e in barbarian makes sense for any tyical hunter really. |
| 00:58.07 | Zeal | *typical |
| 00:58.16 | Bagginsww | oh Zeal, barbarian issue started because we list RPG classes when applicable, and someone couldn't comprihend how Allaria could be a "barbarian" |
| 00:58.25 | Zeal | ah |
| 00:58.29 | Zeal | then f'em |
| 00:58.45 | Bagginsww | and I finally actually took the time to read the allaria article |
| 00:59.05 | Bagginsww | and its pretty much written into the text how she has barbaric tendencies |
| 01:00.18 | Bagginsww | like the whole loner part, and only conversing in short sentences, LOL The belief of killing horde in anyway possible. |
| 01:00.37 | Bagginsww | dishonorable kills is ok, because they are the horde they don't diserve better. |
| 01:01.13 | Bagginsww | Not my opinion, hers, LOL |
| 01:01.36 | Bagginsww | but ya she has anger issues |
| 01:02.41 | Bagginsww | oh ya I plan to add it later |
| 01:02.53 | Bagginsww | when I can edit :p |
| 01:03.36 | Bagginsww | also I get hte impression that apparently Khadger ushered much of the alliance forces through the portals to escape Draenor's destruction, but he himself stayed behind to close hte portals after them. |
| 01:04.09 | Bagginsww | Its fairly specific that allaria jumped in herself. |
| 01:04.18 | Bagginsww | but no source says Khadgar went through |
| 01:04.47 | Bagginsww | even ending of Warcraft II expansion, doesn't say Khadger went through himself |
| 01:05.09 | Sandwichman2448 | FORGET THE SHUTTING UP! |
| 01:05.26 | Bagginsww | lol |
| 01:05.43 | Sandwichman2448 | Khad went to shattrath and contacted tempest keep. |
| 01:05.52 | Bagginsww | Its interesting to note that actually title of the end, of warcraft ii, is "Khader's Sacrifice" |
| 01:06.01 | Bagginsww | *Khadgar |
| 01:06.11 | Sandwichman2448 | He sacrificed his forces to save his planet. |
| 01:06.36 | Sandwichman2448 | They did not know if outland would be livable. |
| 01:06.48 | Bagginsww | In BC he pretty much says he stayed on Draenor. |
| 01:06.59 | Sandwichman2448 | At that point in warcraft Draenor was GONE! no outland. |
| 01:07.04 | Bagginsww | As the flames die to embers and the arcane energies that once bound two |
| 01:07.05 | Bagginsww | worlds slowly fade, the Dark Portal crumbles into dust as its powers |
| 01:07.05 | Bagginsww | subside and dissolve. The finality of what has been done here becomes |
| 01:07.05 | Bagginsww | manifest. The moment is shattered as volcanoes erupt in fiery fury as |
| 01:07.05 | Bagginsww | the earth begins to shake beneath your feet. The world of Draenor is |
| 01:07.05 | Bagginsww | dying... Khadgar motions toward the remaining rifts created by |
| 01:07.07 | Bagginsww | Ner'zhul and beckons you to follow him. The warriors of Azeroth under |
| 01:07.09 | Bagginsww | your command gaze upon the rifts with uncertainty - but to remain |
| 01:07.11 | Bagginsww | would be suicide. Knowing that their beloved Azeroth is safe from |
| 01:07.13 | Bagginsww | harm, they gather up weapons and wounded companions alike as you lead |
| 01:07.15 | Bagginsww | them into the swirling, unknown reaches of the Twisting Nether. |
| 01:07.17 | Bagginsww | but ya that's all it said in Warcraft II |
| 01:07.17 | Sandwichman2448 | SPAM! AAH! |
| 01:07.19 | Bagginsww | but ya it says "follow him" |
| 01:07.26 | Bagginsww | so it implies he was going towards them |
| 01:07.33 | Sandwichman2448 | Yeah... |
| 01:07.46 | Bagginsww | and yet, in BC he acts like he never left the world |
| 01:08.02 | Bagginsww | and got into dreams with the Naaru. |
| 01:08.42 | Sandwichman2448 | Then when the naaru parked and got out to meet him the blood elfs jacked their ride. |
| 01:09.04 | Bagginsww | In Shadows & Light it says he was trapped on the other side of the portals and believed to be dead |
| 01:09.30 | Sandwichman2448 | I read that |
| 01:09.54 | Bagginsww | the way its written it implies he was stock on the world when it exploded. |
| 01:10.18 | Bagginsww | so essentially he may have ushered people through the portal but somehow didn't make it into one himself. |
| 01:10.20 | Sandwichman2448 | Stuck |
| 01:10.29 | Bagginsww | ya stuck |
| 01:10.32 | Bagginsww | stock< LOL |
| 01:10.32 | Zeal | oh Bagginsww, you noticed how Blizzard have fucked up the Emerald Dream lore and game events with the Druid swift flight form questline? |
| 01:10.41 | Bagginsww | nope |
| 01:10.43 | Bagginsww | what happened? |
| 01:10.44 | Sandwichman2448 | How so? |
| 01:11.05 | Sandwichman2448 | They turn into storm crows with out the storm. |
| 01:11.28 | Sandwichman2448 | No lore there, druids can do that. |
| 01:11.42 | Sandwichman2448 | lore problems |
| 01:11.45 | Bagginsww | stormcrows without a storm? |
| 01:11.56 | Sandwichman2448 | yeah |
| 01:11.58 | Bagginsww | stormcrows never really had a "storm" as far as I know |
| 01:12.10 | Bagginsww | unless it was an ability in warcraft III? |
| 01:12.15 | Sandwichman2448 | they shot lightning and whirlwinds |
| 01:12.19 | Bagginsww | oh |
| 01:12.20 | Sandwichman2448 | Yeah |
| 01:12.44 | Bagginsww | thinks I need ot read info about stormcrowsi in the RPG |
| 01:12.50 | Bagginsww | wonders if that is mentioned, probably is |
| 01:13.00 | Zeal | apparently, the raven god, from draenor, that certain cults of the arakkoa have been worshipping for a long time now is an Old God, and he snuck into the Emerald Dream, from Draenor, and he is the cause of the Nightmare. do your quest line, you bring him out of ED, into Outland, kill him 5 man, and then there is nothing about malfurion waking up, nothing about WC or the green dragons being fixed etc. |
| 01:13.07 | Zeal | it's pretty shite. |
| 01:13.24 | Sandwichman2448 | WHAT? |
| 01:13.27 | Bagginsww | Hmm |
| 01:13.30 | Zeal | indeed : / |
| 01:13.36 | Sandwichman2448 | The dream has no effect on draenor |
| 01:13.40 | Zeal | exactly |
| 01:13.50 | Bagginsww | well problem is Nightmare is already physical manifiestation, killing hte ravne god is probalby not enough to clear it up |
| 01:14.08 | Zeal | and how he is an Old God, and why he was in Draenor in the first place makes no sense. |
| 01:14.09 | Bagginsww | though there wre suggestions it might be old god caused in the rpg though |
| 01:14.17 | Bagginsww | zeal |
| 01:14.23 | Zeal | nah, quest text says the Nightmare was vanishing. |
| 01:14.24 | Sandwichman2448 | http://www.battle.net/war3/nightelf/units/druidofthetalon.shtml |
| 01:14.24 | Bagginsww | old gods are trying ot take over hte unvierse |
| 01:14.29 | Bagginsww | play the arcatraz ques tline |
| 01:14.37 | Bagginsww | and sketties are summoning anothe rone in shadowmoon |
| 01:15.02 | Zeal | done it |
| 01:15.02 | Zeal | theres next to no info on that quest line |
| 01:15.02 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:Old_Gods |
| 01:15.02 | Zeal | and it's a dead end |
| 01:15.16 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Harbinger_Skyriss |
| 01:15.17 | Sandwichman2448 | Well, they may have alredy at one point and Azoroth was their throne world |
| 01:15.18 | Zeal | aye, the ww article lacks much info about any of this |
| 01:15.30 | Zeal | possible |
| 01:15.35 | Sandwichman2448 | Aye |
| 01:15.43 | Bagginsww | well it has all the info mentioned in BC, which I admit is fairly limited |
| 01:15.47 | Zeal | but for such a big event, and powerful figures, it is seriously lacking. |
| 01:15.55 | Bagginsww | YOu listen to the warden though someone is controlling him |
| 01:16.02 | Bagginsww | to release the prisoners |
| 01:16.05 | Zeal | mhm |
| 01:16.05 | Sandwichman2448 | Skyriss |
| 01:16.10 | Zeal | i've doen it several times :P |
| 01:16.40 | Bagginsww | Its either skyriss directly or old god trying to get him to release his abassador |
| 01:16.40 | Zeal | it all seems a mess imo, with blizz cutting lots of corners. |
| 01:17.05 | Sandwichman2448 | For Anzu to be an old god and defeating ends the nightmare... that is LAME! what happened to all the ED dev in the game files? |
| 01:17.05 | Bagginsww | they have turned Old Gods into the h.p. lovecraft Old ONes |
| 01:17.36 | Bagginsww | well to be honest emerald ddragons ahve already been defeated apparently if you read the manual |
| 01:17.50 | Bagginsww | the mutant ones I mean |
| 01:18.20 | Zeal | well that's what put my in instant disbelief Sandwichman2448, we still need soemthing more from what they've been working on with ED, and the quest line had no world event of effect on that rather large and mysterious story arc. |
| 01:18.31 | Zeal | *me in |
| 01:18.38 | Bagginsww | and there is emerald dream content in the files, no clue if they'lle ver use it |
| 01:18.52 | Bagginsww | the problme I saw though was Nightmare would have been enarely impossible to show in the MMO |
| 01:18.58 | Bagginsww | it was a moble zone of darkness |
| 01:19.03 | Bagginsww | that causes mutations |
| 01:19.06 | Bagginsww | and insanity |
| 01:19.25 | Zeal | well they won't be making "the" ED, they've already said they've had to change their plans to soemthing smaller, it's jsut not plausible. |
| 01:19.26 | Bagginsww | *Nearly impossible to portray |
| 01:19.53 | Bagginsww | I thought they were going to be battleground like location |
| 01:19.53 | Sandwichman2448 | http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Image:Cthulhu-elections.gif |
| 01:20.03 | Zeal | nah, i think the Nightmare could work. |
| 01:20.37 | Bagginsww | well basically the ingame maps for emerald dream were made up of 4 self contained zones |
| 01:20.58 | Bagginsww | one was canyons with buddha like statue and dreamcatchers |
| 01:21.05 | Sandwichman2448 | cool |
| 01:21.14 | Bagginsww | another was a fores twith floating trees with rain coming from them |
| 01:21.16 | Bagginsww | *forest |
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| 01:21.26 | Bagginsww | another was a field with strange flowers |
| 01:21.28 | Sandwichman2448 | Well, He could come back, it may have been a projection.. |
| 01:21.28 | Zeal | i really would have loved something accurate, but it's a really large scope. |
| 01:21.35 | Bagginsww | and warped swirls in the hillside |
| 01:21.39 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+v Sky2042] by ChanServ |
| 01:21.51 | Sandwichman2448 | And the trees wint the two spiraling roots that float |
| 01:22.01 | Zeal | aye, seen it all |
| 01:22.17 | Zeal | though it seem they took alot of the ideas they had for the trees and applied thme to silvermoon. |
| 01:22.19 | Bagginsww | the problem is they couldn't ahve done all of the emermald dream its supposed to be like the entire continent before presundering, without any war or strife |
| 01:22.31 | Zeal | aye |
| 01:22.32 | Sandwichman2448 | WAY TOO BIG! |
| 01:22.35 | Zeal | and multi leveled |
| 01:22.38 | Zeal | lol |
| 01:22.41 | Sandwichman2448 | and pie. |
| 01:22.48 | Bagginsww | plus the fact that lore pretty much states that people aren't supposed to actually travel there and fight, the green dragons boot people out if they try, LOL |
| 01:23.12 | Zeal | oh, i wasn't really expecting to fight really |
| 01:23.41 | Sandwichman2448 | See my link? The great old ones taking over the US. |
| 01:23.48 | Bagginsww | sounds like fun |
| 01:24.07 | Bagginsww | Ia! Ia! Cthulu! Ftagn! Ia! |
| 01:24.13 | Sandwichman2448 | Well if the greens are gettin their hippie asses kicked they'll wine for help. |
| 01:24.22 | Sandwichman2448 | I love that post |
| 01:24.34 | Sandwichman2448 | That was Skeram right? |
| 01:24.54 | Sandwichman2448 | You read that? |
| 01:24.57 | Zeal | i was thinking soemthing like being able to float, but with 400% movement speed, and being able to spy in areas. though for it to be possible, it would require azeroth being fixed like was needed for flying mounts. |
| 01:25.02 | Zeal | so... not happening. |
| 01:25.13 | Bagginsww | zeal can you link to the quest? |
| 01:25.16 | Bagginsww | so I can read it |
| 01:25.30 | Sandwichman2448 | The WotSS from the qiraji side... Funny stuff |
| 01:26.08 | Bagginsww | in game twisting nether isn't even like the tiwisting nether from lore |
| 01:26.30 | Sandwichman2448 | It isn't the nether |
| 01:26.37 | Sandwichman2448 | Not truely |
| 01:26.56 | Sandwichman2448 | Halfwayesque? |
| 01:27.00 | Zeal | http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=10964 think it starts a bit before then, you'll have to work your way between quest npc's till you reach the main quest line, but the important info starts from my link. |
| 01:27.57 | Bagginsww | well sandwich when you fly between the continents or hte outedges, it starts saying your in the twisting nether LOL |
| 01:28.25 | Sandwichman2448 | It is a section, there is a lot more |
| 01:28.42 | Sandwichman2448 | Well, they stalked the dens... that is good |
| 01:28.56 | Sandwichman2448 | Starting to think is was just Beta leftovers |
| 01:28.57 | Bagginsww | what I meant was in lore the nether is kind of malluable and shape changing |
| 01:29.01 | Bagginsww | it alters itself alot |
| 01:29.09 | Bagginsww | in game its kinda boring :p |
| 01:29.32 | Sandwichman2448 | The engine WoW uses makes it so things cant move much |
| 01:29.39 | Bagginsww | to be honest it would have been nice to see Malfurion's body in the dens |
| 01:30.31 | Sandwichman2448 | Yeah... I am so sad... |
| 01:30.34 | Sandwichman2448 | :( |
| 01:30.37 | Sandwichman2448 | Really |
| 01:30.40 | Zeal | well Outland, according to WoW, is now only in the Twisting Nether, no longer in the Great Dark. Easily explained due to it's method of destruction. It is ofc only part of the Nether, and there's plenty of shifting and weird crap going on in the sky boxes :p |
| 01:30.59 | Sandwichman2448 | Yeah |
| 01:31.04 | Sandwichman2448 | Explodey |
| 01:31.47 | Zeal | it would be nice to visit Malfurion's sleeping body anywhere tbh. No idea where it is : / |
| 01:32.05 | Sandwichman2448 | I'd poke him. |
| 01:32.17 | Sandwichman2448 | Nerubian |
| 01:32.23 | Zeal | well, he'd have to be heavily guarded, seeing as he can't fight back :P |
| 01:32.30 | Sandwichman2448 | I wish they were in game... |
| 01:32.40 | Bagginsww | nether is part of the great dark though heh |
| 01:32.43 | Zeal | they are, just in their undead form :P |
| 01:32.47 | Sandwichman2448 | No |
| 01:33.06 | Zeal | it interconnects with the great dark, not part. |
| 01:33.12 | Sandwichman2448 | Great dark=outer space Nether=not that |
| 01:33.15 | Bagginsww | the rpg specifically says it spart |
| 01:33.33 | Zeal | which one? one of the ancient ones? |
| 01:33.33 | Bagginsww | way its worded in the rpg implies the same thing |
| 01:33.40 | Bagginsww | erm encycloepd ia |
| 01:34.07 | Bagginsww | shadwos and light is basically the only one that discusses the twisting nether |
| 01:34.19 | Sandwichman2448 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Twisting_Nether#The_Twisting_Nether_and_the_Great_Dark_Beyond |
| 01:35.13 | Zeal | wher the hell has the encylopedi gone? they've removed the link : / |
| 01:35.28 | Bagginsww | people trying to remove external links :p |
| 01:35.30 | Sandwichman2448 | sorry |
| 01:35.57 | Sandwichman2448 | ME NAM CUZ I LUK 2 EET FUD!9 |
| 01:36.10 | Bagginsww | When debates on cosmology began on Azeroth scholars quickly tumbled to an obvious quesiton where does it end? |
| 01:36.26 | Zeal | ah.. Game Guide>Game Guide>The World>Historical Library ¬_¬ |
| 01:36.30 | Sandwichman2448 | over there? |
| 01:36.36 | Bagginsww | If azeroth is surrounded by the Emerald and seperated from other material worlds by the Twisting Nether, what lies beyond the boundaries of the nether? |
| 01:36.51 | Sky2042 | damn philosophists |
| 01:37.06 | Bagginsww | The result eventally agreed upon, as much a philisophical placeholder as any anser, ist he great dark beyond |
| 01:37.06 | Sandwichman2448 | A sphere with an infinite radius? |
| 01:37.18 | Bagginsww | Neither black nor white, hot nor cold, living nor dead |
| 01:37.19 | Sandwichman2448 | i took a class on this... |
| 01:37.52 | Bagginsww | , with beginning hard to define on the chaotic fring of the Nether and an end impossible: the Beyond is all that is unknowable about the cosmos |
| 01:38.15 | Sandwichman2448 | My brain hurts. |
| 01:38.19 | Zeal | anyways.. yeah, overlaps the Great Dark, so essentially another plane over the Great Dark. |
| 01:38.26 | Bagginsww | Were part of to be journed to or defined: it would become its own plane - leaving the beyond on its horizon, external and all encompassign |
| 01:38.42 | Bagginsww | that's one section now to find the other sectin |
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| 01:39.18 | Sandwichman2448 | No... |
| 01:41.25 | Sandwichman2448 | So... Regardless on how great and dark the nether may or may not be... When is the wiki fixed again? |
| 01:41.42 | Sandwichman2448 | !wwstats |
| 01:41.44 | [NewsBot] | #wowwiki stats: http://www.bxd.dk/irc/wowwiki.html |
| 01:41.48 | Sandwichman2448 | Cool |
| 01:42.18 | Sandwichman2448 | Why is my name blue? you cannot click on it? |
| 01:42.26 | Sky2042 | it's because you have more than one signon |
| 01:42.32 | Sandwichman2448 | What? |
| 01:42.38 | Sky2042 | you have more than one nick |
| 01:42.43 | Sandwichman2448 | ?? |
| 01:42.54 | Sandwichman2448 | What is my nick? |
| 01:43.03 | Sky2042 | the name you're using |
| 01:43.08 | Sky2042 | "Sandwichman2448" |
| 01:43.11 | Sandwichman2448 | My other one? |
| 01:44.09 | Sandwichman2448 | ? |
| 01:44.10 | Bagginsww | now Khadgar's theory was that elemental plane exists inside/below the physical plane |
| 01:44.20 | Bagginsww | emeral dream is above the physical plane |
| 01:44.30 | Bagginsww | twisting nether above that |
| 01:44.35 | Bagginsww | and great dark beyond above that |
| 01:44.54 | Bagginsww | so twisting nether is kind of like the galaxies, and dark beyond is liek the universe |
| 01:45.36 | Sandwichman2448 | I thought the dream was parrallel |
| 01:45.43 | Zeal | a plane above does not mean encompass, so it's nothing like galaxies and universes |
| 01:45.59 | Bagginsww | ya philosophical debate some think its parrallel |
| 01:46.03 | Bagginsww | others think it rests above |
| 01:46.28 | Bagginsww | zeal its a matter of debate the book makes out both "interprestions" llol |
| 01:46.49 | Bagginsww | great dark isn't exactly space |
| 01:46.52 | Bagginsww | no one knows what it is |
| 01:47.14 | Bagginsww | though material plane is contained within the "twiisting nether" |
| 01:47.26 | Zeal | It is space. |
| 01:47.30 | Bagginsww | Even azeroth is in the twisting nether |
| 01:47.32 | Sandwichman2448 | Or you would fall through outland |
| 01:47.32 | Sky2042 | the final frontier |
| 01:47.43 | Sky2042 | these are the voyages of the starship, "Wowwiki" |
| 01:47.47 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 01:47.53 | Zeal | an instance of Azeroth is, yes. |
| 01:48.08 | Sky2042 | our mission |
| 01:48.11 | Bagginsww | Its believe draenor once had it own spiritual emerald dream |
| 01:48.14 | Sky2042 | to boldly go where none have gone before! |
| 01:48.19 | Bagginsww | but that was destroyed when the planet blue up |
| 01:48.22 | Sandwichman2448 | then gul'dan killed it |
| 01:48.30 | Bagginsww | exposiging it direclty to the twisting nether |
| 01:48.32 | Zeal | if the titans made it, sure. |
| 01:48.42 | Zeal | not far fetched at all |
| 01:48.53 | Zeal | but we've never seen anything to suggest that |
| 01:49.08 | Bagginsww | elune apparently made the emerald dream on azeroth. its believed as a buffer to keep the burning legion at bay |
| 01:49.24 | Sandwichman2448 | the titains, I think gave Azoroth unique gifts/defences to fight the old gods within. |
| 01:49.33 | Sky2042 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maggot_therapy |
| 01:49.43 | Sandwichman2448 | removes puss |
| 01:51.15 | Bagginsww | it describes the twisting nether the "interstitial" between the physical worlds. |
| 01:52.26 | Sandwichman2448 | Why are not Nerubians in WoW? |
| 01:52.58 | Sky2042 | there are a few |
| 01:53.03 | Sky2042 | scatttered here and there |
| 01:53.05 | Sandwichman2448 | Live ones |
| 01:53.08 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 01:53.14 | Zeal | Anyways, i see it like this.. Great Dark is parallel to Twising Nether and a Spirit Realm (Blizzard need to define this, cos it can't co-exist in the Nether). Planets exist in all 3 planes at once. We live on the Great Dark plane, magic allows us access to the Nether, and we see the Spirit Realm when dead. How this works with how things interact between the 3, i don't know. |
| 01:53.25 | Sky2042 | because all of them are undead sandwich, iirc |
| 01:53.27 | Sky2042 | ;P |
| 01:53.40 | Sky2042 | the nerubian race was assimilated into the Scourge |
| 01:53.48 | Sandwichman2448 | Some lived |
| 01:53.55 | Sky2042 | find me proof :) |
| 01:54.36 | Sandwichman2448 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Nerubian Last line in main part |
| 01:54.37 | Bagginsww | Zeal the RPG calls the spirit real the twisting nether, and there are a few quests ing ame that say the same thing :p |
| 01:54.43 | Zeal | Spirit Realm is pretty easy for us to grasp, but Nether is a little harder. It does seem it doesn't have to match the other 2 planes, and that of course you can be alive in it, and that you can influence things in it as normal, if they have an effect in the Great Dark, i have my doubts, but it would seem it effects the Spirit Realm. |
| 01:54.50 | Zeal | i know Baggins |
| 01:54.57 | Zeal | cos blizzrd are fucktards |
| 01:55.36 | Sandwichman2448 | language. |
| 01:55.40 | Zeal | They'd call Arthas a High Elf if they showed a consitant level of care. |
| 01:55.46 | Zeal | children present? :P |
| 01:56.02 | Sky2042 | yes, but go on. |
| 01:56.03 | Sky2042 | :p |
| 01:56.08 | Zeal | *consistant |
| 01:56.53 | Sandwichman2448 | Umm... |
| 01:57.47 | Sandwichman2448 | Gnomes. |
| 01:59.15 | Sky2042 | any of you guys played super smash bros melee before? |
| 01:59.32 | Sandwichman2448 | Yes |
| 01:59.33 | Zeal | Anyways, the ED, is on only a planet limited scope, though how many planes, if more than one plane, or if at all on those planes. But either way, it works much like the Spirit Realm, but is multi layered and accessed via sleep, so it allows for indirect effect on the Great Dark, and likely the other planes too. |
| 01:59.54 | Sky2042 | you use advanced techs, or do you have no idea what those two words mean? |
| 02:00.29 | Sandwichman2448 | No and yes respetively. |
| 02:00.45 | Sky2042 | blgh |
| 02:00.48 | Sky2042 | you still play? |
| 02:00.54 | Sandwichman2448 | http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Image:Hitlerwatermelon.gif |
| 02:00.55 | Zeal | where the Elemental Plane exists, i don't know. Seems likely on the same scale as ED, but on all worlds. But i don't rule out that it exists seperate from all the planes. |
| 02:00.58 | Sandwichman2448 | A little. |
| 02:01.03 | Sky2042 | mk |
| 02:01.13 | Sky2042 | i'm going to have you watch a series of cideos that will blow your mind |
| 02:01.13 | Bagginsww | Chunks of worlds float among prismatic clouds, and colorful eneryg ribbons twist through the void. All is spectral and shadowy - blurring together in a muted, multicolored haze that brushes and teases the senses. Physicala laws do not exist in this realm of ghosts, save those tthat a traveler creates for himself. Magica and illusion dance across the every changing -vastness |
| 02:01.20 | Sky2042 | videos |
| 02:01.34 | Zeal | rant over |
| 02:01.52 | Bagginsww | WEell Zeal Elemental Plane was physically made by the titans |
| 02:01.53 | Sandwichman2448 | What? |
| 02:02.00 | Bagginsww | as a prison |
| 02:02.01 | Sky2042 | http://youtube.com/watch?v=4n4s5yB7ZkE |
| 02:02.04 | Zeal | Was it? didn't know that |
| 02:02.10 | Sky2042 | aye |
| 02:02.16 | Bagginsww | ya according to shadows and light |
| 02:02.30 | Bagginsww | there are literally two interpretations of the world though. |
| 02:02.36 | Bagginsww | one that its like an inverted onion |
| 02:02.38 | Zeal | created when exactly? during Azeroth's recreation? |
| 02:02.39 | Bagginsww | and one that its stacked |
| 02:02.45 | Bagginsww | like 4 seperate planes |
| 02:02.51 | Zeal | aye, we've been through that |
| 02:02.56 | Zeal | don't want to again :P |
| 02:02.59 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 02:03.00 | Sandwichman2448 | A lot. |
| 02:03.17 | Bagginsww | I'd assume it was created after the war with the old gods |
| 02:03.31 | Bagginsww | have to go check for you |
| 02:03.38 | Bagginsww | give me a moment |
| 02:04.19 | Sandwichman2448 | Yeah... |
| 02:04.34 | Bagginsww | after the war |
| 02:04.42 | Bagginsww | when the Old Gods were defeated |
| 02:04.50 | Zeal | hm.. if they created it then, i would imagine it was as i suggested, but onyl for Azeroth, cos the elementals on other Draenor didn't seem to be imprisoned and were free roaming. |
| 02:04.59 | Zeal | *-other |
| 02:05.07 | Bagginsww | they cast all the elementals they could ifnd into the hastily created jail |
| 02:05.21 | Bagginsww | well its somewhere within the twisting nether |
| 02:05.25 | Zeal | yeah, but probably only those on Azeroth, depends on context. |
| 02:05.37 | Zeal | hm.. in the nether, perhaps. |
| 02:06.01 | Bagginsww | "a prison within the Twisting Nether" |
| 02:06.28 | Bagginsww | its said it looks like its own world, when looked at form above or on the ground |
| 02:06.38 | Sandwichman2448 | Azoroth is the nexus of stuff. |
| 02:06.40 | Zeal | makes me doubt the inverted world idea even more then. |
| 02:06.55 | Bagginsww | well its the book that calls it inverted, :p |
| 02:07.25 | Zeal | yes, but on inverted in the sense of that image. |
| 02:07.28 | Bagginsww | first warcraft RPG had the "pancake flat earth "theory |
| 02:07.30 | Zeal | *-on |
| 02:07.38 | Bagginsww | it didn't look like a world at all |
| 02:07.56 | Sandwichman2448 | It isn't nice to live there so why do elementals want to go back when summoned? |
| 02:08.02 | Bagginsww | but hollow earth, inverted world still will look like a sphere from the outside |
| 02:08.10 | Sandwichman2448 | yes |
| 02:08.13 | Zeal | they don't, they have to. |
| 02:08.14 | Zeal | lol |
| 02:08.23 | Bagginsww | they like the prison now, its safe |
| 02:08.33 | Bagginsww | they can do whatever they want with it |
| 02:08.34 | Sandwichman2448 | I read that they want to go back |
| 02:08.36 | Zeal | well with Rag dead, sure :P |
| 02:08.51 | Sandwichman2448 | he was the most destructive. |
| 02:09.00 | Zeal | he was liek the evil tyrant, lol |
| 02:09.07 | Sandwichman2448 | Mr. Watermn was the most evil. |
| 02:09.17 | Bagginsww | well actually rag was chaotic not evil |
| 02:09.22 | Bagginsww | chaotic neutral |
| 02:09.29 | Bagginsww | the guy we worked for to help them was evil though |
| 02:09.33 | Sandwichman2448 | chotic evil. |
| 02:09.35 | Bagginsww | the water lord |
| 02:09.40 | Zeal | all elementals are chaotic neutral in that context :p |
| 02:09.41 | Sandwichman2448 | I SAID THAT! |
| 02:09.52 | Sandwichman2448 | Mr. Watermn was the most evil. |
| 02:10.12 | Zeal | Lord of the Clans pointed out their nature well. |
| 02:10.47 | Bagginsww | zeal, rag is chaotic neutral, water guy is chaotic evil, earth one is lawful neutral |
| 02:11.02 | Bagginsww | air one is chaotic neutral |
| 02:11.06 | Sandwichman2448 | Eh... Bye. |
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| 02:11.18 | Bagginsww | therezane is actually benevolent |
| 02:11.29 | Bagginsww | she likes the creatures of azeroth |
| 02:11.29 | Zeal | They're all seemingly chaotic and may appear menevolent to us, but they act with their reason's to maintain balance, we jsut don't understand those reasons yet. |
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| 02:11.43 | Bagginsww | where as water one wants to destroy all life |
| 02:11.59 | Zeal | Then why do we help them? :p |
| 02:12.08 | Bagginsww | because people in azeroth don't know that |
| 02:12.14 | Bagginsww | he's using us |
| 02:12.21 | Zeal | lol |
| 02:12.30 | Zeal | i'm curious as to where you're getting this from. |
| 02:12.37 | Bagginsww | shadows and light |
| 02:12.48 | Zeal | i'll go drag it out in a sec |
| 02:12.57 | Zeal | curse you for pulling me back in |
| 02:13.04 | Zeal | :p |
| 02:13.48 | Zeal | Only stuff i remember about the water one, is the Manta, stuff about Krakkens, links with Naga and Old Gods etc. all old stuff really, nothing current to WoW. |
| 02:13.49 | Bagginsww | but ya more or less rag wants to be free once his full powers are reached, only problem is his existence in the world is naturally destructive. |
| 02:14.05 | Zeal | ofc, fire is. |
| 02:15.17 | Bagginsww | waterlord is out to douse the firelord, and beat the stonemother's lands. |
| 02:15.50 | Bagginsww | actually he looks kind of like a backwords cthulu, LOL |
| 02:16.08 | Zeal | oo.. i would love to see elemental magic control implemented more in the game. |
| 02:16.23 | Bagginsww | ya |
| 02:17.17 | Bagginsww | and main thing about him is he enjoys tormening others |
| 02:17.27 | Zeal | <3 how the description is nothing liek the image for Al'Akir |
| 02:17.33 | Bagginsww | and toying with the. |
| 02:17.53 | Bagginsww | lawl |
| 02:18.07 | Bagginsww | sounds like hakkar though |
| 02:18.09 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 02:18.23 | Zeal | hm.. and how it's depicting a flat world in his background >_> |
| 02:18.25 | Bagginsww | hakkar is theorized to be a son of an old god |
| 02:18.32 | Zeal | aye |
| 02:19.08 | Bagginsww | air is in caves, underground passages etc |
| 02:19.22 | Bagginsww | air is in any place it can find a gap |
| 02:19.57 | Bagginsww | when air interacts with fire, you get fire/air conglomerate elementals heh |
| 02:20.10 | Zeal | not possible for an inverted world, unless you insure each layer has an air passage. |
| 02:20.17 | Bagginsww | it does |
| 02:20.50 | Bagginsww | it explains that realm of fire is under earth and water layer |
| 02:21.07 | Bagginsww | and that it melts earth layer |
| 02:21.13 | Bagginsww | which drips down |
| 02:21.49 | Bagginsww | so that implies a layer of air in between |
| 02:22.10 | Bagginsww | main air layer Skywall is surrounded by the other layers |
| 02:22.23 | Bagginsww | with some son like object in the middle |
| 02:23.04 | Bagginsww | ya, I realise the difficulty in discriptions when down is up and up is down, and vice versa :p |
| 02:23.29 | Zeal | damn church, get your hands out of my law and rights. |
| 02:24.04 | Bagginsww | on a side note earliest dipictions of the elemental plane, in first rpg book, s pretty much imply that elemental plan can reshape itself and does so contanstly. |
| 02:24.16 | Zeal | O_o |
| 02:24.23 | Zeal | ok that's teh lame |
| 02:24.27 | Bagginsww | shadows and light was pretty much the first give it a "constant" basical appearance |
| 02:24.30 | Bagginsww | *basic |
| 02:24.53 | Bagginsww | although it is shaped somewhat by earthquakes, water beating on earth's shore, water ttrying to snuff fire, etc |
| 02:25.17 | Zeal | i hate blizzard cosntantly saying "wooh look at this, it's myserious and does stuff we can't comprehend" as an excuse for lack of detail, inconsistancies and lack of content for things.. |
| 02:25.28 | Bagginsww | lol |
| 02:27.19 | Zeal | ok, i can see where you get evil from now. |
| 02:27.52 | Zeal | rag has legs! ..apprently |
| 02:27.54 | Zeal | lol |
| 02:28.03 | Zeal | wow says otherwise :p |
| 02:28.13 | Bagginsww | you can't even see below the lava in wow, :) |
| 02:28.34 | Bagginsww | its not like he leaves the pool LOL |
| 02:28.51 | Bagginsww | rag actually hates being summoned |
| 02:28.57 | Bagginsww | he'd like to return to plane if he could |
| 02:29.01 | Zeal | yeah, but he doesn't move liek a biped, and there's no reason for the lava to stay flowing around his legs. |
| 02:29.02 | Bagginsww | but he's stuck in azeroth |
| 02:29.14 | Zeal | aye |
| 02:29.18 | Bagginsww | actually he's amorphous he can take any shape he wants |
| 02:29.30 | Zeal | fu blizz" |
| 02:29.31 | Zeal | lol |
| 02:29.32 | Zeal | lame |
| 02:29.51 | Bagginsww | firs telementals we saw in warcraft I had legs, :)_ |
| 02:30.12 | Bagginsww | and female forms, in the manual |
| 02:30.26 | Zeal | well from this description, rag is evil too |
| 02:30.36 | Zeal | jsut as much as nep is |
| 02:31.20 | Bagginsww | I think its natural for fire to actively destroy |
| 02:31.31 | Bagginsww | he doesn't do it to conquer |
| 02:31.41 | Zeal | and it's not for water? |
| 02:31.43 | Bagginsww | he has no plans to take over hte unvierse |
| 02:31.55 | Zeal | didn't say nep did either |
| 02:31.56 | Bagginsww | where as neptulon is implied to want to take over |
| 02:32.01 | Bagginsww | there is a story in game |
| 02:32.04 | Bagginsww | about neptulon |
| 02:32.14 | Bagginsww | and troll empire |
| 02:32.32 | Zeal | says he enjoys destryoing life and creations.. nep enjoys drowning people and toying with them.. |
| 02:32.33 | Bagginsww | and some other connections during the ahn qiraj chain |
| 02:32.57 | Zeal | both sound evil to me, rag possibly mroe so. |
| 02:33.18 | Bagginsww | evil, and good its philosphical, :) |
| 02:33.22 | Zeal | he's not stupid ofc though, he knows when he needs to make diplomatic choice :p |
| 02:33.25 | Zeal | *choices |
| 02:34.04 | Bagginsww | I think the main reaosn is he doesn't actually want to be free |
| 02:34.16 | Bagginsww | He doesn't want to destroy azeroth |
| 02:34.26 | Bagginsww | life he enjoy sdestroying is therezane's |
| 02:34.30 | Zeal | "Ragnaros is a violent sort who delights in causing pain and aguish whenever possible" how much more evil do you want? :P |
| 02:35.00 | Bagginsww | but he's neutral and ambivolent to what goes on in Azeroth |
| 02:35.13 | Bagginsww | he doesn't evne want to be there |
| 02:35.17 | Bagginsww | he wants back home |
| 02:35.38 | Zeal | "he hungers still to ravage the world around him" |
| 02:35.49 | Zeal | so, no he's not neutral in azeroth either :P |
| 02:35.55 | Bagginsww | but for some reason his wanting to return home is greater wish |
| 02:36.03 | Zeal | ofc |
| 02:36.04 | Bagginsww | read the firelands article |
| 02:36.18 | Zeal | but while he's here, he wants to do what he likes. |
| 02:36.32 | Bagginsww | and why does he get mad when people summon him? |
| 02:37.17 | Zeal | where are you going with this point? i know it, and it has no impact to what i'm saying. |
| 02:37.44 | Bagginsww | well cats enjoy playing with their prey |
| 02:37.46 | Bagginsww | are they evil? |
| 02:37.59 | Bagginsww | good and evil can be argued both ways |
| 02:38.02 | Zeal | are you making an argument for nep here? :p |
| 02:38.11 | Zeal | and yes, cat's are sick and twisted evil creatures |
| 02:38.12 | Zeal | lol |
| 02:38.15 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 02:38.36 | Bagginsww | well they both seemt to enjoy destroying |
| 02:39.20 | Bagginsww | I think he wants revenge at this point, for those who brought him to the world in the first place. |
| 02:39.54 | Bagginsww | way I read it, wit it saying he wants to return, but also wants to ravage the world around him. |
| 02:40.38 | Bagginsww | He's clearly not happy about being drawn out of the plane. |
| 02:40.47 | Bagginsww | he hates being summoned |
| 02:41.01 | Zeal | all elementals would, especially by "lesser beings" |
| 02:41.05 | Jeremy2020 | also, someone ate the last twinky on him |
| 02:41.19 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 02:42.01 | Zeal | why is princess such a bitch when her mother is so cool? :( |
| 02:42.22 | Bagginsww | is she directly her daughter? |
| 02:42.28 | Bagginsww | I mean what claims that? |
| 02:42.32 | Bagginsww | rpg never mentions her |
| 02:43.02 | Bagginsww | though princes smust have been nicer at one time |
| 02:43.08 | Bagginsww | for him to sleep with her :p |
| 02:43.11 | Zeal | nothing really, just assumed there is lineage in those of higher ranks, especially given the physical resembalences |
| 02:43.46 | Bagginsww | I think she's pissed because centaurs killed him LOL> |
| 02:43.54 | Zeal | lol |
| 02:44.00 | Zeal | perhaps |
| 02:44.18 | Bagginsww | unless she was a black wiidow from thes tart :p |
| 02:44.36 | Bagginsww | just needed someone to bear her childrne :p |
| 02:44.42 | Bagginsww | well "make" |
| 02:44.49 | Bagginsww | I maen |
| 02:44.52 | Bagginsww | mean |
| 02:44.53 | Zeal | i wodner if all centaur have an inherent oedipus complex :P |
| 02:45.25 | Bagginsww | lol |
| 02:45.33 | Bagginsww | brb |
| 02:45.37 | Zeal | kk |
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| 02:49.11 | Zeal | oo, hadn't seen http://www.wow-europe.com/shared/wow-com/images/info/encyclopedia/articles/emeralddream.jpg nice |
| 02:49.35 | Bagginsww | ya that's used in the rpg too |
| 02:49.52 | Bagginsww | I think its in art of wow too |
| 02:55.43 | Zeal | hmm.. kk |
| 02:56.59 | Bagginsww | there is a certain level of interconnection concept art made for WoW becomes artwork in the RPG< some, artwork for the RPG becomes concept art for wow. |
| 03:01.26 | Zeal | hm.. tbh i'm disapointed by what they've done with Maiev |
| 03:01.51 | Bagginsww | bringing her back to life? |
| 03:01.58 | Zeal | would prefer they stuck with the story of her death, and implemented her as an avatar of vengeance that comes to finally finish of Illidan. |
| 03:02.07 | Bagginsww | that would have been cool |
| 03:02.15 | Zeal | indeed |
| 03:03.05 | Zeal | it would have been such a lovely relationship they could have played on for the fight, arguments and blame going back and forth etc. |
| 03:03.57 | Zeal | hm.. didn't realize claire from heros was in ally macbeal when she was younger. |
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| 03:09.14 | Trae | I am addicted. |
| 03:09.20 | Trae | this game is evil |
| 03:09.24 | Trae | evil I tell you |
| 03:10.05 | Trae | I went a whole week without playing. heh. And now am re-installing the damned thing. |
| 03:11.18 | Zeal | lol |
| 03:11.24 | Zeal | 6 months was my longest |
| 03:12.31 | Trae | Zeal, damn bro that's amazing |
| 03:13.43 | Zeal | came back november last year :p |
| 03:14.56 | Dotted | !8ball Will Trae ever be able to stop playing WoW? |
| 03:14.57 | [NewsBot] | Dotted: Yes. |
| 03:15.01 | Dotted | :( |
| 03:15.08 | Zeal | lol |
| 03:15.18 | Trae | heh |
| 03:15.35 | Trae | !8ball Will I ever be able to TRULY quit playing WoW? |
| 03:15.36 | [NewsBot] | Trae: Signs point to yes. |
| 03:15.40 | Trae | lol |
| 03:15.49 | Zeal | !8ball Will i ever defeat Illidan in WoW? |
| 03:15.50 | [NewsBot] | Zeal: You may rely on it. |
| 03:15.56 | Zeal | :o |
| 03:15.58 | Trae | !8ball No means Yes right? |
| 03:16.00 | [NewsBot] | Trae: Most likely. |
| 03:16.03 | Trae | haha |
| 03:16.03 | Zeal | lol |
| 03:17.11 | Dotted | !8ball Will I start playing WoW again? |
| 03:17.12 | [NewsBot] | Dotted: Most likely. |
| 03:17.18 | Dotted | damn |
| 03:17.39 | Zeal | !8ball If a women says no, does she really mean yes? |
| 03:17.40 | [NewsBot] | Zeal: Yes. |
| 03:17.44 | Zeal | lol |
| 03:17.52 | Dotted | !8ball Will I get in the Warhammer Online closed beta? |
| 03:17.54 | [NewsBot] | Dotted: Very doubtful. |
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| 03:17.58 | Dotted | grrr |
| 03:19.11 | Zeal | !8ball Will i ever stop being a bum? |
| 03:19.12 | [NewsBot] | Zeal: My sources say no. |
| 03:19.16 | Bagginsww | I can't play LOTRO right now, too busy trying to get my heroic keys and netherwing rep :p |
| 03:19.17 | Zeal | lmao |
| 03:19.56 | Zeal | been there, done that. unless you mean rep post neutral. |
| 03:19.59 | Bagginsww | wishes I could play both ath the same time LOL |
| 03:20.13 | Bagginsww | my netherwing is at revered |
| 03:20.35 | Bagginsww | another week and I'll have my dragon |
| 03:21.19 | Bagginsww | and a nice pocket full of gold |
| 03:22.36 | Zeal | lamer |
| 03:22.48 | Dotted | !8ball Is Zeal a lame wiki troll? |
| 03:22.48 | [NewsBot] | Dotted: Better not tell you now. |
| 03:22.52 | Dotted | :P |
| 03:22.58 | Zeal | i've yet to find a way for me to make money on a PvP server : / |
| 03:23.12 | Dotted | grind :/? |
| 03:23.19 | Dotted | quests |
| 03:23.26 | Zeal | too long, raiding all the time. |
| 03:23.34 | Zeal | not many quests left |
| 03:23.35 | Dotted | buy gold :< |
| 03:24.15 | Zeal | farming is useless, camped/ganking. Farming at night is useless because of the new respawn algorithm blizz implemented |
| 03:24.40 | Zeal | and the stuff to famr for money, i actually need anyways.. so.. no money in it. |
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| 03:27.52 | Zeal | then there's the fact that trash loot from instances hasn't increased in value since 60.. only the greens, and i spend more money on repairs, ammo and food then what i can get from them.. |
| 03:28.10 | Dotted | !8ball Will i ever get any sleep again? |
| 03:28.11 | [NewsBot] | Dotted: It is certain. |
| 03:28.15 | Zeal | lol |
| 03:28.54 | Dotted | exploit AH then |
| 03:29.12 | Bagginsww | still can't edit :p |
| 03:29.30 | Zeal | you need a decnet money pool to manage that :p |
| 03:29.37 | Bagginsww | zeal daily quests will net you about 100g a day |
| 03:29.46 | Bagginsww | most are really easy |
| 03:29.55 | Zeal | if i spend the day doing them |
| 03:29.59 | Zeal | which i can't |
| 03:30.03 | Bagginsww | ondoesn't take a day |
| 03:30.04 | Zeal | 1-2hours at most. |
| 03:30.12 | Bagginsww | you'd get 30g easy |
| 03:30.22 | Bagginsww | maybe all 100g |
| 03:30.28 | Bagginsww | in 2 hours |
| 03:30.37 | Bagginsww | netherwing is the easiest of the bunch |
| 03:30.42 | Zeal | i can't |
| 03:30.44 | Bagginsww | but you need epic training |
| 03:30.49 | Zeal | exactly |
| 03:30.50 | Zeal | lol |
| 03:31.07 | Bagginsww | ogrila is good too, but you have to do the initial quests |
| 03:31.33 | Zeal | i have closing in on 4k, then i started raiding and leveling lwing, dropped to 1.5k, managed to crawl back to 2k now. |
| 03:31.43 | Zeal | *had closing |
| 03:33.09 | Bagginsww | must have been bad raids |
| 03:33.18 | Zeal | not really |
| 03:33.30 | Zeal | was only the one bad gruul.. 9 wipes |
| 03:33.44 | Zeal | that come to about.. 50g repair i think |
| 03:34.10 | Bagginsww | ouch |
| 03:34.12 | Zeal | avager repair on a raid is usualy about 16g tbh. |
| 03:34.29 | Zeal | then about 2g for each pot/elixir |
| 03:34.50 | Zeal | and.. ammo.. hm.. about 12g |
| 03:35.20 | Zeal | *8g |
| 03:35.56 | Zeal | something around that. depends on the instance though. kara takes mroe than a quiver full :/ |
| 03:41.18 | Zeal | back to coding i guess |
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| 04:17.53 | Sky2042 | i think it's interesting, that wikipedia has issues with admins using sockpuppets... |
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| 04:40.33 | ChrisD | Is there an addon development channel? |
| 04:42.16 | Sky2042 | try #wowi-lounge |
| 04:42.38 | ChrisD | Cool, thanks. |
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| 05:21.28 | Sky2042 | my god |
| 05:21.37 | Sky2042 | http://files.filefront.com/Shazra___A_Ballad_of_Fireavi/;7678252;/fileinfo.html/1/1 |
| 05:22.49 | Zeal | sum it up, cba :p |
| 05:23.29 | Zeal | hm.. wish there was a way to make my hifi report how playing to my pc : / |
| 05:23.34 | Zeal | *now |
| 05:23.43 | Sky2042 | sum it up |
| 05:23.50 | Sky2042 | awesome freaking mage |
| 05:23.59 | Sky2042 | eg 1v2 arenas, etc |
| 05:24.44 | Zeal | nvm then :p |
| 05:25.04 | Zeal | i don't need to be shown how much more a mage can pwn me. |
| 05:25.13 | Sky2042 | he's raping a warlock right now |
| 05:25.40 | Sky2042 | dunno if its his gear, or if he's just good |
| 05:26.09 | Sky2042 | or if i'm just so out of synch with the game since leaving it prior to BC |
| 05:26.10 | Sky2042 | lol |
| 05:26.11 | Bagginsww | I notice that wowwiki now interconnects to starcraft II wiki, and lotro wiki |
| 05:26.23 | Bagginsww | I understand the starcraftII, but why particularly lotro? |
| 05:26.32 | Tusva | I've seen Tabula Rasa come up too, I think it rotates |
| 05:26.52 | Bagginsww | ahh |
| 05:26.57 | Bagginsww | what is tabula rasa? |
| 05:27.09 | Tusva | sci-fi mmo coming out |
| 05:27.14 | Tusva | end of this year i think? |
| 05:27.18 | Bagginsww | ahh |
| 05:27.35 | Tusva | officially called Richard Garriot's Tabula Rasa :P |
| 05:29.00 | Bagginsww | I see |
| 05:39.02 | Zeal | love NIN - The Great Destroyer so much x_x; |
| 05:40.43 | Zeal | voyuer! |
| 05:41.03 | Zeal | *voyeur |
| 05:42.52 | Zeal | for those who didn't get that, "Nod your head, just in case they could be watching, with their shiny satellite" |
| 05:45.06 | Zeal | god, why couldn't blizz make more of their functions ambiguous, sooo much repeated code. |
| 05:46.04 | Tusva | ugh |
| 05:46.04 | Zeal | lol |
| 05:46.51 | Zeal | everyone seems a more likely table, but kk :p |
| 05:47.02 | Tusva | thanks a lot Zeal, now I have to put the album on. |
| 05:47.07 | Zeal | haha |
| 05:47.35 | Zeal | then my life's purpose is complete :P |
| 05:51.33 | Zeal | they really should have sent out a chain mail, asking you to persuade people to consume "subversive material" to help get the word out :p |
| 05:51.56 | Zeal | i want a new video tbh. |
| 05:57.11 | Tusva | isn't he doing one for Capital G at some point? |
| 05:58.37 | Zeal | no idea |
| 05:59.21 | Zeal | hm.. didn't he want to play that live in front of a picture of bush on mtv, but cancelled cos they wouldn't allow them? |
| 05:59.42 | Zeal | some awards or soemthing iirc. |
| 06:00.38 | Tusva | that wasn't this album, that was With Teeth |
| 06:01.05 | Tusva | it was the MTV Music Video Awards, he was going to play The Hand that Feeds, but they wouldn't let him use a big image of bush behind him, yeah |
| 06:01.33 | Zeal | ah, yeah that's it :P |
| 06:01.55 | Zeal | the whole Capital G made it pop into my head again was all :P |
| 06:08.42 | LadySerena | omfg |
| 06:08.54 | LadySerena | you aren't going to believe what just happened to me |
| 06:09.12 | Zeal | fell off your chair? |
| 06:09.18 | LadySerena | I was flagged in Darkshore, and a little lvl 11 night elf attacked me |
| 06:09.31 | LadySerena | I stopped, dismounted, turned around and hit Drain Life |
| 06:09.37 | LadySerena | the night elf didn't last 10 seconds |
| 06:09.51 | LadySerena | for reference, I'm a 48 blood elf warlock |
| 06:10.11 | Zeal | that's more beleivable than you falling off your chair. i feel cheated of excitement :P |
| 06:10.31 | Zeal | *out of |
| 06:10.46 | LadySerena | still .... why did 11 night elf hunter attack me? that's just sheer stupidity |
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| 06:11.12 | piumosso | good evening |
| 06:12.39 | Zeal | i accidentily hit a 60 riding past when i was 13 in dun morogh. No idea how, turned round, thankfully didn't kill me. Then i realized i knew who he was. Firend of a friend, both of which where horde on that server :p |
| 06:13.44 | LadySerena | well I have no idea who this one was |
| 06:13.49 | Zeal | lo piumosso |
| 06:14.21 | LadySerena | I killed: Sesa [Level 11 Night Elf Hunter] |
| 06:14.31 | LadySerena | on server Scarlet Crusade |
| 06:16.21 | piumosso | so is it just me or is the wiki not taking edits |
| 06:17.06 | Zeal | the latter |
| 06:17.14 | piumosso | yikes |
| 06:19.42 | Tusva | been that way for a good many hours |
| 06:20.50 | piumosso | hi tusva, I was trying to reply to you when the problem started |
| 06:22.35 | Zeal | "Shame on us, for all we have done, and all we ever were, just zeros and ones." <3 |
| 06:23.49 | Zeal | oo, managed to get presale tickets for within temptation @ birxton academy in november. After missing their previous show in london, i'm really pleased about it ^_^; |
| 06:26.22 | Tusva | no worries piumosso...Sky and I tweaked the buff template a bit, moved the icon mainly |
| 06:26.28 | Tusva | that's my /. sig Zeal :D |
| 06:27.35 | Zeal | lol |
| 06:27.47 | Tusva | we also added in the |debuff= variable, so it can throw the cats correctly (ie: Category: Buffs or Category Debuffs) etc |
| 06:28.31 | piumosso | OK I see it now |
| 06:28.40 | piumosso | looks good |
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| 06:30.37 | Tusva | i'd like to also apply the debuff colour to the border of the icon, but before i could start playing with that the Wiki went to sleep, editing-wise :P |
| 06:31.31 | piumosso | yeah, I remember the colors on the old one |
| 06:31.44 | piumosso | curses are purple, etc. |
| 06:31.47 | Tusva | yup |
| 06:31.58 | Tusva | i had like, 6 templates, but yours combined with the ability template is much slicker looking |
| 06:32.08 | Tusva | and works better, category wise, |
| 06:32.29 | piumosso | the big thing was I couldn't center it, it was hard-coded float=right |
| 06:33.22 | Tusva | yeah, it didn't really have a container in general |
| 06:34.15 | Tusva | it makes much more sense to have one template anyway |
| 06:34.48 | piumosso | now that it's doable with the new server software |
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| 07:21.45 | Tusva | nite o/ |
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| 08:02.15 | Fisker- | anyone else having problem with the wiki? |
| 08:02.31 | Fisker- | I keep getting "Sorry! We could not process your edit due to a loss of session data. Please try again. If it still doesn't work, try logging out and logging back in." |
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| 08:09.05 | IKT | Sorry! We could not process your edit due to a loss of session data. Please try again. If it still doesn't work, try logging out and logging back in. |
| 08:09.05 | IKT | tried that it not work -_- |
| 08:09.05 | Fisker- | >:E |
| 08:09.05 | Fisker- | same problem here |
| 08:09.05 | Fisker- | don't know what's wrong :P |
| 08:09.05 | Fisker- | i'd just save your stuff in notepad until it's fixed |
| 08:10.50 | IKT | it's only minor |
| 08:11.01 | IKT | but error there for over 6 hours now |
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| 08:16.04 | Pzyk | wikinoliki? |
| 08:16.16 | IKT | actually can't edit any pages :s |
| 08:17.24 | Pzyk | wiki's basically dead. |
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| 08:24.46 | Pzyk | someone save us! |
| 08:26.30 | IKT | :( |
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| 09:15.03 | pucko | Any admin who knows what happended to the page; http://www.wowwiki.com/Server:Shattered_Hand_Europe/Crafters |
| 09:15.23 | laurly | are we still having server problems? |
| 09:15.26 | pucko | It's completely blank page. no error nor any info |
| 09:15.32 | foxlit | It's not |
| 09:15.52 | foxlit | Try either forcing a refresh or logging in |
| 09:16.20 | foxlit | Though yes, wiki is still very odd |
| 09:16.22 | laurly | tryed that |
| 09:18.05 | laurly | think its all the guilds that are messed up |
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| 09:30.25 | Pzyk | it's basically entire server down |
| 09:30.54 | laurly | it was acting up last night as well |
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| 09:48.20 | Ragowit | Is there a problem with the wiki atm? Most pages are completly blank for me.. |
| 09:48.31 | Pzyk | wiki's having a cold. |
| 09:48.43 | Ragowit | Lovely |
| 09:48.58 | Pzyk | however, the pages should work if you manage to login, or do a full refresh |
| 09:54.28 | laurly | think the server is having a temper tantrum or something |
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| 10:09.12 | Adys | ~seen |pixel| |
| 10:09.43 | infobot | |pixel| <i=pixel@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/Pixel> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowwiki, 2d 17h 51m 34s ago, saying: ':D'. |
| 10:09.56 | Adys | weird, he appears online to me |
| 10:10.24 | amro | why are you stalking |Pixel|? |
| 10:10.45 | Adys | i like stalking french people |
| 10:11.13 | Adys | whats the command to see if soemone is online with chanserv? |
| 10:11.31 | amro | hm? tried /whois? |
| 10:11.43 | Pzyk | doesn't appear online to me. |
| 10:12.01 | amro | |pixel| is online |
| 10:12.09 | amro | [11:11] [Whois] |Pixel| is i=pixel@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/Pixel (Pixel) |
| 10:12.09 | amro | [11:11] [Whois] |Pixel| is online via irc.freenode.net (http://freenode.net/). |
| 10:12.09 | amro | [11:11] [Whois] |Pixel| is an identified user. |
| 10:12.57 | Adys | damn nub |
| 10:13.20 | amro | probably not around since he's not on any channels... you can try /msg though |
| 10:13.33 | Pzyk | he's avoiding you. |
| 10:14.04 | Adys | damn, yesterday was so awesome |
| 10:14.16 | Adys | we were doing a guild run but since a couple of days im auto blocking trades |
| 10:14.39 | Adys | im a mage tho so i systematically trade water to anyone asking .. except a couple of tards in my guild |
| 10:15.02 | Adys | they tried to trade me like 20 times .. argh that feels so good |
| 10:15.13 | Adys | ~seen sancus |
| 10:15.45 | infobot | sancus <n=none@off.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowwiki, 17d 11h 55m 2s ago, saying: 'probably :P'. |
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| 10:19.29 | Demyx | Hey, ermm, i have a bug to report regarding the website. Who should I inform? |
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| 10:23.41 | Teomyr | morning |
| 10:23.52 | Adys | hey teo |
| 10:24.03 | Adys | Demyx just say in here |
| 10:24.13 | Pzyk | the server's having the flu |
| 10:24.23 | laurly | nope PMS i say |
| 10:24.33 | Demyx | well there's something wrong wif the category pages |
| 10:24.45 | Demyx | they can't go past the first page |
| 10:24.50 | Demyx | e.g. http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Category:Quest_Givers&from=Brassbolts%2C+Fizzle |
| 10:24.58 | laurly | you loged in demyx? |
| 10:25.27 | Demyx | nah, random stalker |
| 10:25.30 | laurly | i have noticed before that you cant move past the first page in categories unless you are loged in |
| 10:25.32 | Demyx | so i gotta get an acct? |
| 10:25.42 | Pzyk | you don't HAVE to, |
| 10:25.45 | Adys | its temporary server problems |
| 10:25.48 | Pzyk | but the server's acting up right now |
| 10:25.55 | Pzyk | and that's the current solution |
| 10:26.36 | Demyx | Alright~! thanks a bunch. That was swift help. |
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| 11:19.03 | [NewsBot] | GamePolitics: http://gamepolitics.com/2007/06/10/alabama-senator-slugs-colleague-on-senate-floor/ |
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| 11:42.30 | Pzyk | ah, nothing better than senator against senator action. |
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| 11:46.47 | Zeal | mwuahahaha! |
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| 11:48.37 | Pzyk | bwee? |
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| 12:03.31 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/06/10/breakfast-topic-what-should-nihilum-do-now/ |
| 12:19.01 | laurly | server still acting up? |
| 12:26.26 | Pzyk | yep |
| 12:30.26 | laurly | damit i cant even edit a boiler plate!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 12:55.43 | IKT_ | wtf |
| 12:55.56 | IKT_ | i'm on another wiki altogether |
| 12:56.00 | IKT_ | and the same error came up!? |
| 12:58.07 | laurly | they are probably bot on the same server and that servers ........... not working |
| 12:59.03 | [NewsBot] | GamePolitics: http://gamepolitics.com/2007/06/10/coe-bashes-sony-over-manchester-cathedral-setting-in-resistance-fall-of-man/ |
| 12:59.13 | IKT_ | http://www.wowwiki.com/ and http://www.overclockers.com.au/wiki/Main_Page <- both on same server :/ |
| 13:17.05 | IKT_ | http://www.mwusers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2116 |
| 13:17.11 | IKT_ | http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Running_MediaWiki_on_Sourceforge.net#Sessions |
| 13:17.19 | IKT_ | apparantly that is the fix |
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| 13:44.14 | Deadly | hi |
| 13:45.16 | Deadly | ČÓ Úáě ăííä |
| 13:45.19 | Deadly | Úáě ÇáÚÇŐí |
| 13:45.21 | Deadly | ÇáßÇÇÇÝŃ |
| 13:46.15 | Deadly | 010 |
| 13:46.26 | Deadly | *I* |
| 13:46.40 | Pzyk | er? |
| 13:47.05 | Deadly | er |
| 13:57.08 | IKT_ | uh |
| 13:57.14 | IKT_ | anyone else on aman'thul? |
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| 14:06.28 | icebreaker | hello everyone. I'm looking for someone with wowwiki database administrative/read-only rights. Can anyone provide me any contact? |
| 14:07.04 | Pzyk | you mean someone with access to the actual database? |
| 14:07.16 | icebreaker | yes |
| 14:07.52 | Pzyk | could try, matthewS, but I don't see why you would need someone like that. |
| 14:08.08 | Pzyk | plus they're probably still all asleep atm. |
| 14:08.12 | icebreaker | ok, thank you very much |
| 14:08.36 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/06/10/around-azeroth-inside-ragnaros/ |
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| 14:39.14 | foxlit | Foxbot, you're supposed to be dead. |
| 14:54.45 | Pzyk | WTB Server fix. |
| 14:58.29 | Dotted | can someone help me understand this formula: Points=1426.79/(1+918.836*Power(2.71828, -0.00386405*rating)) |
| 14:58.36 | Dotted | Power(2.71828, -0.00386405*rating) |
| 14:58.43 | Dotted | that part i dont get at all |
| 15:00.12 | Pzyk | 2.7123125135 ^ (-0.00blahblah * rating) |
| 15:00.19 | Dotted | ah thx |
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| 15:39.12 | Dotted | so Pzyk wouldnt 1426.79 / (1 + 918.836 * 2.71828 ^ -0.00386405 * %x ) be right then? |
| 15:41.33 | Dotted | nvm found my bug |
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| 16:00.23 | Pzyk | eh? |
| 16:03.35 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/06/10/wow-moviewatch-the-murloc-dance/ |
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| 16:09.06 | Dotted | Pzyk just some missing () in my script |
| 16:09.12 | Dotted | !ap 5 2200 |
| 16:09.15 | [NewsBot] | Dotted: 1202 Arena Points! |
| 16:16.11 | Angwe | can anyone see any syntax errors in this http://pastey.net/56631 |
| 16:16.17 | Angwe | its going to the else every time |
| 16:16.26 | Angwe | but i know that the entry exsists |
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| 16:17.07 | Angwe | http://pastey.net/56632 |
| 16:17.10 | Angwe | thats the entry |
| 16:17.39 | Pzyk | try #wowi |
| 16:17.46 | Pzyk | probably more people who know lua there |
| 16:17.50 | Angwe | oopps |
| 16:17.55 | Angwe | guess i clicked the wrong channel lol |
| 16:17.58 | Pzyk | but I'll take a look. >_> |
| 16:21.13 | foxlit | <Angwe> can anyone see any syntax errors in this http://pastey.net/56631 |
| 16:21.16 | foxlit | There are no syntax errors |
| 16:21.45 | foxlit | What you're having the code do is fundamentaly wrong, try reading it line by line |
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| 16:29.34 | [NewsBot] | MMO Champion: Mother Shahraz video by Curse - http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=291.0 |
| 16:37.58 | Dotted | !ap 5 |
| 16:38.14 | Dotted | !ap 50 |
| 16:38.18 | Pzyk | !ap 5 2000 |
| 16:38.19 | [NewsBot] | Pzyk: 1015 Arena Points! |
| 16:38.35 | Pzyk | !ap 3 2000 |
| 16:38.36 | [NewsBot] | Pzyk: 812 Arena Points! |
| 16:38.43 | foxlit | !ap 2 0 |
| 16:38.44 | [NewsBot] | foxlit: 0 Arena Points! |
| 16:38.46 | foxlit | !ap 2 1 |
| 16:38.47 | [NewsBot] | foxlit: 0 Arena Points! |
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| 16:39.11 | Dotted | !ap 5v5 2465 |
| 16:39.13 | [NewsBot] | Dotted: 1337 Arena Points! |
| 16:39.13 | nemppu | OH |
| 16:39.15 | nemppu | that is HANDY |
| 16:39.24 | nemppu | !ap 5 1799 |
| 16:39.25 | [NewsBot] | nemppu: 759 Arena Points! |
| 16:39.42 | nemppu | !ap 3 1952 |
| 16:39.43 | [NewsBot] | nemppu: 767 Arena Points! |
| 16:39.43 | Pzyk | !ap 2 1536 |
| 16:39.44 | [NewsBot] | Pzyk: 291 Arena Points! |
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| 16:47.17 | foxlit | It's semi-stable, even :) |
| 16:47.26 | foxlit | #api GetItemLink |
| 16:47.27 | Foxbot | Could not find anything relevant, foxlit |
| 16:47.38 | Pzyk | !ap 2 5000 |
| 16:47.41 | [NewsBot] | Pzyk: 998 Arena Points! |
| 16:47.43 | foxlit | #api GetItemInfo |
| 16:47.44 | Foxbot | foxlit: itemName, itemLink, itemRarity, itemLevel, itemMinLevel, itemType, itemSubType, itemStackCount, itemEquipLoc, itemTexture = GetItemInfo(itemID or "itemString" or "itemName" or "itemLink") |
| 16:47.56 | Kaso | foxlit, how awesome! |
| 16:47.58 | Pzyk | !ap 5 5000 |
| 16:48.00 | [NewsBot] | Pzyk: 1426 Arena Points! |
| 16:48.17 | Pzyk | !ap 5 4000 |
| 16:48.18 | [NewsBot] | Pzyk: 1426 Arena Points! |
| 16:48.33 | Pzyk | oh right |
| 16:48.42 | Pzyk | stupid cap |
| 16:48.44 | foxlit | It's primitive; I've replaced wowwiki and irc interaction code with something a bit shorter. Can't edit pages yet, though :) |
| 17:00.49 | Fisker-- | oh hi Dotted |
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| 17:04.42 | Teomyr | hi all |
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| 17:09.05 | Sky2042 | still dead... |
| 17:13.07 | Dotted | hi2u2 Fisker-- |
| 17:24.24 | Adys | hey teo |
| 17:25.13 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+v Foxbot] by Adys |
| 17:25.15 | Adys | i like bots |
| 17:26.05 | Adys | i dont like foxbot anyways |
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| 17:34.32 | laurly | I like VB think it was a total of 8 lines of code to get it to connect to irc |
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| 18:03.34 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/06/10/the-disappearing-hunter-pet-skill-trick/ |
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| 18:13.13 | |FF|Im2good4u | !ap 4 3000 |
| 18:20.27 | Sandwichman2448 | Kos... he is a fourum troll who hates thundgot, flames all CMs, and does not know whaen to quit. His user page is in L33t, Wikis are supposed to be easy to read. |
| 18:20.45 | Sandwichman2448 | That is too much in my opinion. |
| 18:21.04 | Sandwichman2448 | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Kos |
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| 18:21.52 | Sandwichman2448 | "Where is the flameing in the CM song?" IT'S A LIST OF INSULTS! |
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| 18:41.36 | Flyspeck | So... anyone actually here? |
| 18:42.00 | Teomyr | of course not! |
| 18:42.02 | Adys | sorta |
| 18:42.27 | Flyspeck | just wanted to confirm I'm not the only one having problems with the wiki. |
| 18:42.37 | Dotted | Adys http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Kos gogo |
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| 18:43.22 | Adys | you know we cant delete stuff etc |
| 18:43.59 | Adys | Flyspeck: nah you're not |
| 18:44.35 | *** topic/#wowwiki by Adys -> Channel info: tinyurl.com/36u82j | RC list: tinyurl.com/2oawam | UI questions? Join #wowi-lounge | Wiki undergoing server problems, we know about it |
| 18:44.49 | Flyspeck | all right, good stuff. |
| 18:45.10 | Flyspeck | first time in the channel, btw. :D gotta go but I'll check in again in the future |
| 18:45.13 | Flyspeck | later folks |
| 18:45.41 | Teomyr | this is getting ridiculous... i've run overlord ramtusk 13 times now |
| 18:46.06 | Teomyr | and 13 times he has dropped that tusken helm instead of corpsemaker |
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| 18:47.14 | Dotted | Adys you removed my music tho |
| 18:47.58 | Adys | Teomyr, where? |
| 18:48.19 | Teomyr | razorfen kraul |
| 18:48.30 | Teomyr | trying to get a corpsemaker for my shaman |
| 18:49.10 | Adys | ow |
| 18:49.17 | Adys | level your warrior instead =p |
| 18:49.46 | Teomyr | but considering my drop luck, by the time i'll get it, i'll be level 35, ready to use my epic axe :/ |
| 18:49.59 | Sky2042 | looooool |
| 18:50.04 | Sky2042 | just level up |
| 18:50.12 | Sky2042 | the one weapon isn't worth it. |
| 18:50.31 | Teomyr | if i had got it in the first few tries, it probably would have been |
| 18:51.00 | Teomyr | but damnit, who would have thought a 30% drop was so hard to get |
| 18:51.49 | Tekkub | wiki go down the hole |
| 18:54.17 | Kaso | Anyone speak Swedish? |
| 19:08.50 | laurly | its so pointless doing nightbane with this tank |
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| 19:19.29 | Fisker- | omg TecnoBrat ! |
| 19:19.43 | TecnoBrat | omg what? |
| 19:19.52 | Fisker- | i finally got it |
| 19:20.00 | Sandwichman2448 | the wiki fixed? |
| 19:20.06 | Fisker- | http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ravencrest&n=Fiskerdin |
| 19:20.14 | Fisker- | and it only took armory 10-20 minutes to update :o |
| 19:21.36 | TecnoBrat | got what? |
| 19:21.47 | Sandwichman2448 | Item |
| 19:21.54 | Fisker- | the magtheridon head ring |
| 19:22.43 | TecnoBrat | ahh grats |
| 19:28.34 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/06/10/addon-spotlight-fubar/ |
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| 19:32.54 | Bagginsww | So ya, finally read chapter on Thrall's escape in Lord of the Clans, and its really different... |
| 19:33.06 | Bagginsww | In so many ways. |
| 19:34.35 | Balor_NG | Hey all! On the http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_mirrors page ther are links to full and slim burning crusade client downloads... but absolutely no explanation what's the difference between them. Which should I download, given that my banwith is rather limited (otherwise I'd just d/l the full one, of course)? |
| 19:35.22 | Balor_NG | Can someone give me a link to explanation? |
| 19:36.04 | Teomyr | hm |
| 19:36.23 | Teomyr | no idea |
| 19:36.30 | Bagginsww | 1. it occurs at night. 2. Thrall bashes himself out of his cell, alone. 3. A barn is burned down, not an internment camp. 4. Thrall uses a black cloak as a disguise. 5. Thrall escapes to the woods to a dragon rock, where a cave exists to talk to Tiri, and learn about tiri's job as blackmoore's mistress. |
| 19:37.10 | Sandwichman2448 | yeah, wy different. |
| 19:37.15 | Sandwichman2448 | way |
| 19:37.39 | Teomyr | well, but it's intended to be different since the infinite dragonflight is messing with it |
| 19:37.48 | Sandwichman2448 | The bronzes had to improvise. |
| 19:38.09 | Sandwichman2448 | they alter everyones memory so they THINK it happened like that. |
| 19:38.15 | Bagginsww | Still I think its a slap to the face to the author of hte book, IMO. |
| 19:39.07 | Sandwichman2448 | Golden needs one, Blizz calls her when they need a retcon at the last minute, you can't blame her thet make her write lore with little time. |
| 19:39.27 | Sandwichman2448 | they |
| 19:39.49 | Bagginsww | technically the way they could have done it was had it occur at night, you burn down a barn, and thrall escapes on his own. Then you go free tiri on your own, and help her to the cave. |
| 19:39.52 | Sandwichman2448 | So... blizz needs one for not giving her more time. |
| 19:40.18 | Sandwichman2448 | Yeah that woul make scence |
| 19:40.20 | Bagginsww | They just wanted a reason to have players interact with Thrall.. for the "cool moment" |
| 19:40.22 | Sandwichman2448 | d |
| 19:40.38 | Sandwichman2448 | WoW is a GAME to be FUN |
| 19:40.41 | Sandwichman2448 | i think |
| 19:40.52 | Sandwichman2448 | What is with Kos? He is a fourm troll that hates Thundgot, flames all CMs, and does not know when to quit. Now his user page is in 1337: http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Kos That is too much in my opinion. He wonders how his song is offenceive when it is just a list of insults. but I think he means well, and is just new; he was shareing somthing he thought was funny. |
| 19:40.56 | TecnoBrat | I thought the idea was you were breaking him out early? |
| 19:41.12 | Sandwichman2448 | Hm... |
| 19:41.17 | Bagginsww | The biggest thing is bronze dragonflight would have had to alter more than just Thrall and tiri's memmory |
| 19:41.42 | Kaso | Sandwichman2448, user pages can have whatever they want on, the video was discussed by kirkburn |
| 19:42.02 | Bagginsww | everyone in durnholde's memory would have to be altered as well. |
| 19:42.20 | Sandwichman2448 | So? |
| 19:42.33 | Sandwichman2448 | they do that too... wait they did not. |
| 19:42.39 | Kaso | Bagginsww, im no expert here so let my pose this as a question, that book, is that what the average person in azeroth would know? could the burning the interment camp etc be anti-thrall propganda? |
| 19:43.06 | Kaso | Then the dragonflight just choose the easiest way to do it that would still fit with the "common perception" of the event |
| 19:43.08 | Bagginsww | Kaso apparently the original version is the version most know |
| 19:43.16 | Bagginsww | its written in several in-game books |
| 19:43.25 | Kaso | well thers my theory blown out of the water! |
| 19:43.32 | TecnoBrat | Hold up .. wasn’t that the whole point about the COT, we went back .. altered history as little as possible, and everything from that point on would change |
| 19:43.33 | Bagginsww | and in original warcraft 3 manual which was an in-game docuement |
| 19:43.38 | TecnoBrat | we are not changing their memory |
| 19:43.42 | TecnoBrat | we are altering history |
| 19:44.03 | Bagginsww | ya but those ingame books still exist, telling synopses of the original escape |
| 19:44.10 | Sandwichman2448 | The bronze fell right into the sideways 8's plan. |
| 19:44.33 | Bagginsww | the problem is Blizzard really didn't think of the paradoxes, :) |
| 19:44.56 | Balor_NG | So, nobody has any idea what's the difference between slim and full installers? Or I should ask elsewhere (point where, please?) (And I still think that should be stated on the download patches page.). |
| 19:45.08 | Bagginsww | No clue |
| 19:45.17 | Bagginsww | I'd assume slim would just make you download more afterwords :p |
| 19:45.30 | Balor_NG | Then what's the poing of having one? |
| 19:45.37 | Balor_NG | Strange, really. |
| 19:45.40 | Bagginsww | just the quicker intiial download |
| 19:45.50 | Sandwichman2448 | Your compy can fit into more pants |
| 19:46.09 | Bagginsww | but you'd still have to install every single patch |
| 19:46.21 | Bagginsww | to make the game the same version as current version |
| 19:46.34 | Balor_NG | Well, I have them... just not TBC. |
| 19:46.50 | TecnoBrat | well, everyone needs the same game in the end |
| 19:46.56 | Bagginsww | and full installer probalby has current patch already in it |
| 19:47.04 | Bagginsww | where as slim is hte base TBC version |
| 19:47.09 | TecnoBrat | so I doubt downloading a “slim” version is going to help you |
| 19:47.46 | Balor_NG | *shrugs* Perhaps. |
| 19:48.08 | Sandwichman2448 | I act so immaturely and stupid... :( |
| 19:48.44 | Balor_NG | But that is not all that informative after all. |
| 19:48.44 | Balor_NG | Oh well. |
| 19:49.04 | Bagginsww | ya according to wowwiki TBC slim is 2.00 |
| 19:49.20 | Bagginsww | and full has patch 2.1 or better |
| 19:49.49 | Bagginsww | no wait again, slim may just be the installer, and not the program |
| 19:50.01 | Balor_NG | 1.2 GB installer? |
| 19:50.07 | Balor_NG | that's some installer! |
| 19:50.11 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 19:50.17 | Bagginsww | well they are going to end up the same in the end |
| 19:50.35 | Dotted | link? |
| 19:50.38 | Balor_NG | But I wanna optimise my traffic expendages! |
| 19:50.43 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_mirrors |
| 19:51.01 | Balor_NG | I've read that page... |
| 19:51.12 | Balor_NG | It does not tell of the differentce between them... |
| 19:51.14 | Bagginsww | dotted wanted a link |
| 19:51.17 | Balor_NG | Hence I'm here. |
| 19:51.20 | Balor_NG | Oh. |
| 19:51.28 | Dotted | cant find it :s |
| 19:52.40 | Dotted | nvm |
| 19:53.02 | Teomyr | they both contain the same files, but the 'full' installer's Installer Tome X.mpq files are approx. twice as large as in the slim installer |
| 19:53.36 | Teomyr | but i don't really know what that means for the installer. maybe it contains all language versions? |
| 19:53.46 | Balor_NG | I suspect that slim installer if for WoW version 2.0.0... it does not contain stuff that was included in 1.2.x -> 2.0.1 patch. But I does not know for sure. |
| 19:54.08 | Bagginsww | But ya I'm really pretty sure that slim is designed for people with lower bandwidth so they can dowload the basic necessities for installation, but those things will probably added once the updater starts. |
| 19:54.33 | Bagginsww | same reason why other companies split things into more than one file |
| 19:54.42 | Bagginsww | for download |
| 19:55.05 | Balor_NG | *shrugs* But give the torrent nature of download, it makes no sense... at least, to me. |
| 19:55.23 | Bagginsww | not everyone can leave their computers on 24/7 though |
| 19:55.40 | Sandwichman2448 | I could. |
| 19:56.05 | amro | a lot of files were overwritten by subsequent patches... maybe the slim one drops them |
| 19:56.42 | Kaso | I want to edit :<<< |
| 19:57.52 | Balor_NG | That's all speculations. Nobody has idea where I can lookup the EXACT info? Spent half an hour googling to no avail. Seems like everyone just takes it for granted... |
| 19:58.18 | Balor_NG | Not having unlimited internet sucks :( |
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| 19:59.04 | Bagginsww | later patches delete older files too don't they? |
| 19:59.41 | Bagginsww | just download the slim, I'm sure you'll be able to play the game and it'll be exactly the same as other people's games in the end though |
| 20:00.19 | Kaso | I think the best plan would be to take the full, the slim sounds like best case you save a few MB, worst you have to download a few hundred more in patches. |
| 20:00.50 | Balor_NG | Well, I guess I will, but I still wonder what's the difference between them. Curiosity :) |
| 20:01.07 | Bagginsww | why not download both and tell us , :) |
| 20:01.13 | Bagginsww | add it to the wowwiki |
| 20:01.22 | Teomyr | lol |
| 20:02.01 | pucko | Anyone can help me with this page; http://www.wowwiki.com/Server:Shattered_Hand_Europe/Crafters |
| 20:02.05 | Balor_NG | Heh, I guess I will, just wondered that someone with unlimted bandwith already had peformed those experiments... |
| 20:02.07 | pucko | it's just blank |
| 20:02.25 | pucko | tried from 2 different comps and IE as well as Firefox |
| 20:03.26 | Teomyr | try again |
| 20:03.29 | Bagginsww | I know with LOTRO there are literally 2 different versions |
| 20:03.35 | Teomyr | pucko |
| 20:03.46 | pucko | Teomyr: nope :( |
| 20:03.51 | Bagginsww | there is the low-res beta version |
| 20:03.55 | Sandwichman2448 | <Not newsbot> LORELOL http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=108210452&sid=1 they make a good point. |
| 20:03.57 | Bagginsww | and the release version |
| 20:04.06 | Bagginsww | release has high-res and low-res modes |
| 20:04.11 | Bagginsww | and intro cutscene |
| 20:04.23 | Teomyr | pucko: it doesn't work? :o it's working for me after i purged the page |
| 20:04.27 | Bagginsww | beta version will play release just fine |
| 20:04.42 | Bagginsww | and its probably the better choice for people with lower-end machies |
| 20:04.49 | Bagginsww | *machines |
| 20:05.26 | pucko | teomyr: I even telnet:ed to wowwiki on port 80 and entered the http-request manually. nothing is returned |
| 20:06.00 | Kaso | its working fine for me also |
| 20:06.27 | *** part/#wowwiki Sandwichman2448 (n=cyrillpi@11.80.205.68.cfl.res.rr.com) |
| 20:06.30 | pucko | I'll try from another comp again |
| 20:06.56 | Teomyr | try refreshing the cache. it didn't work for me at first, too |
| 20:07.14 | pucko | nope. I tried from the univ's comp |
| 20:07.27 | pucko | and I killed the cache in firefox |
| 20:08.06 | pucko | gonna ssh to my mates comp and try there... |
| 20:09.53 | pucko | sigh... |
| 20:10.06 | Teomyr | hm... |
| 20:10.46 | pucko | I could understand if Telia has a proxy infront of me, but the same thing happens on the univ's comp and my mates |
| 20:11.27 | Teomyr | just tried it via telnet, doesn't work. hmm |
| 20:13.34 | pucko | maybe the entrance have been corrupted in the db. I't been rearranged a bit lately |
| 20:14.47 | pucko | checked with 2 other people and they can't see it either |
| 20:15.33 | *** part/#wowwiki Balor_NG (n=balors_s@pptp-39-98.rtelekom.net) |
| 20:16.24 | Adys | kaso / teomyr - do you have any decent c++ compiler thats free and not 800mb large in mind? |
| 20:16.45 | Adys | looking for one for a quick comp but cant find anything exactly decent |
| 20:16.45 | Teomyr | Adys: mingw |
| 20:17.12 | Teomyr | or visual c++ 2005 express edition, but that's a bit larger |
| 20:17.38 | Adys | visual c++ 2005 isnt free is it |
| 20:17.50 | Teomyr | the express edition is |
| 20:17.53 | Dotted | express edition is |
| 20:18.00 | Adys | ah |
| 20:18.09 | Adys | hm bah ill get that then |
| 20:18.11 | Adys | thanks :] |
| 20:18.26 | laurly | wtb better tank... |
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| 20:27.26 | Gazmik | grr.. "Sorry! We could not process your edit due to a loss of session data. Please try again. If it still doesn't work, try logging out and logging back in." |
| 20:28.03 | Kaso | Gazmik been like that since midnight yeterday |
| 20:28.59 | Gazmik | ah, good to know the problem's not on my end. been futzing with cookie settings to no avail. |
| 20:28.59 | Kaso | http://www.wowwiki.com/Antonidas%27s_Aegis_of_Rapt_Concentration |
| 20:29.10 | Kaso | Who broke |equip= ! |
| 20:29.34 | [NewsBot] | MMO Champion: Arena Rating calculator is up. - http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=292.0 |
| 20:29.41 | Bibi`ouF | hi [NewsBot] |
| 20:29.44 | Bibi`ouF | how are you ? |
| 20:29.50 | abecx | sup |
| 20:29.57 | abecx | i cant log into wowwiki /frown |
| 20:33.23 | Kaso | noone can >.< |
| 20:36.15 | laurly | bot can not sure why |
| 20:42.43 | foxlit | KasoBot [2] [WIKI] Logged in. |
| 20:42.50 | foxlit | Passes some test, at least :) |
| 20:43.03 | Kaso | cant it edit foxlit ? |
| 20:43.34 | foxlit | Probably not |
| 20:43.45 | Kaso | i would assume of the top of my head it'd either error or give some recursive infinite loop when trying to re-log on |
| 20:44.05 | foxlit | function SetPageContent(page, content, editSummary, onlyBlankPages) |
| 20:44.05 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:44.05 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:44.05 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:44.05 | foxlit | end |
| 20:44.30 | foxlit | Can't edit much of anything :) |
| 20:44.40 | Kaso | ah |
| 20:53.37 | laurly | i just get missing session data. |
| 20:55.06 | Dotted | !ap 3 1500 |
| 20:55.07 | [NewsBot] | Dotted: 300 Arena Points! |
| 20:55.09 | Hobinheim | anybody watch The Office? |
| 21:03.35 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/06/10/azeroth-interrupted-long-lost-brothers/ |
| 21:04.42 | laurly | whats ID for at the bottom of Template:questbox |
| 21:04.50 | Hobinheim | quest ids |
| 21:04.55 | Hobinheim | for websites that support it |
| 21:05.05 | laurly | same as that {{Elinks-quest|10839|10839}}? |
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| 21:18.30 | Killmore | http://www.wowwiki.com/Sha'tar is broken :( |
| 21:20.54 | laurly | yeah that is a bit messed up |
| 21:21.14 | Bagginsww | hmm not all gan'arg are demons |
| 21:26.43 | Beer-Bot_v8-18 | http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/06/10/azeroth-interrupted-long-lost-brothers/ |
| 21:26.50 | Beer-Bot_v8-18 | lol |
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| 21:40.01 | Bibi`ouF | oh, interesting |
| 21:40.15 | Bibi`ouF | I just found why an op (we won't name him) keeps ignoring my private messages. |
| 21:40.27 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+v Bibi`ouF] by ChanServ |
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| 22:08.35 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/06/10/qanda-with-jason-hayes/ |
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| 22:15.18 | foxlit | New evil trick: #do (Item Name) |
| 22:15.30 | foxlit | #do Romulo's Poison Vial |
| 22:15.31 | Foxbot | KasoBot, do 28579 |
| 22:16.00 | Kaso | hehe |
| 22:16.06 | Kaso | cool |
| 22:16.22 | Kaso | who do you query for the item name? |
| 22:16.27 | foxlit | Armory |
| 22:16.58 | laurly | can you get it to read armory thought that was ajax? |
| 22:17.41 | foxlit | You can read aja XML |
| 22:17.53 | foxlit | pastey lags :( |
| 22:18.06 | foxlit | Though I just do a rather silly string.match now |
| 22:19.00 | laurly | hmm im going to have to play with it then Document.body.innerHTML returns almost nothing against ajax |
| 22:20.37 | laurly | would be nice if i could check armory to be sure the guild's havent been disbanded |
| 22:22.28 | foxlit | Hm, you're right, Kaso, pastey spam protection is evil |
| 22:22.29 | Kaso | Bagginsww oh? (re:gan'arg) |
| 22:22.31 | foxlit | http://foxlit.pastey.net/56647-2o3y |
| 22:23.20 | foxlit | I see a few mistakes, but they're mostly irrelevant |
| 22:23.35 | Kaso | Sounds interesting. |
| 22:24.02 | foxlit | The idea is that you can do stuff like |
| 22:24.08 | foxlit | #reload kasotask |
| 22:24.13 | foxlit | And have it quit on you |
| 22:24.15 | laurly | wonder if i could install a wiki on the server to test against while wowwiki is being nasty |
| 22:24.30 | Kaso | laurly i believe someone has a wowwiki clone around for testing |
| 22:24.32 | Kaso | i forget who |
| 22:25.07 | Kaso | also i had a localhost wiki for a while which i tested on, its handy |
| 22:25.19 | laurly | im working on parafrasing quest pages since i cant work on guilds with the categories all wacky |
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| 22:26.04 | laurly | already have appache php and mysql installed shouldnt be to hard to install wiki |
| 22:26.24 | Kaso | if you have em on already its child's plau |
| 22:26.26 | foxlit | #mreload kasotask |
| 22:26.26 | Foxbot | Reloading [kasotask] |
| 22:26.29 | foxlit | #mstart kasotask |
| 22:26.30 | Foxbot | Starting [kasotask] |
| 22:26.53 | foxlit | Thereby updating code the bot runs without turning it off :) |
| 22:27.05 | Kaso | thats pretty sweet |
| 22:27.30 | Kaso | i do like the look of the new module code you seem to have, seems interesting |
| 22:27.42 | laurly | doing mine in vb its going to have to be recompled :) |
| 22:28.15 | Kaydeethree | the database acting up? I can't stay logged in |
| 22:28.22 | foxlit | Basically, there's a big evil infinite loop running in the background, but some of the code generates events that you can hook with modules |
| 22:28.39 | foxlit | So IRC raises "talking to you", which modules then handle if they want. |
| 22:28.58 | Kaydeethree | oh nvm. it's in /topic |
| 22:29.01 | Kaydeethree | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:29.01 | laurly | i made an eggbot in php years ago had it moduler was nice not having to log back in to reload modules |
| 22:31.41 | laurly | i had a few more colorful words to say about it eariler |
| 22:40.38 | foxlit | http://www.wcradio.com/popupradio.php |
| 22:40.41 | foxlit | Go there. Now. :) |
| 22:42.59 | laurly | stoped listening to wow raido when [epic] went off the air |
| 22:44.19 | Bagginsww | humanoid gan'arg at invasion point cataclysm |
| 22:45.25 | amro | foxlit: that's exactly what I did for my irc frontend =) |
| 22:45.57 | laurly | night guys |
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| 22:50.59 | Sandwichman2448 | I just notaced were were mentioned in "Time Gnomes" |
| 22:51.19 | Sandwichman2448 | bye |
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| 22:55.00 | foxlit | !armory Chicken Bloodhoof EU |
| 22:55.17 | foxlit | !armory EU Bloodhoof Chicken |
| 22:55.18 | [NewsBot] | Chicken's Armory Profile: http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Bloodhoof&n=Chicken |
| 22:55.31 | foxlit | !armory EU Emerald Dream Chicken |
| 22:55.50 | foxlit | There's a 1 minute cooldown on spamming a link? :) |
| 23:10.00 | foxlit | Hrm, I really need some pcalls on that |
| 23:11.03 | Kaso | hehe |
| 23:11.19 | Kaso | kinda why co-routines are nice, they all run in protected enviroments |
| 23:11.31 | Kaso | also if you have duel core CPU you can run two coroutines at once! |
| 23:11.48 | foxlit | Um, no? :) |
| 23:12.05 | foxlit | coroutine.resume() locks the thread that calls it |
| 23:12.14 | foxlit | Or not |
| 23:12.22 | foxlit | Or yes? |
| 23:12.27 | Kaso | yes it does.. |
| 23:12.38 | Kaso | um im sure i read an article about duel coring threads in lua |
| 23:12.43 | Kaso | cant remeber where though >.< |
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| 23:13.34 | foxlit | #char EU Emerald Dream Fender |
| 23:13.35 | Foxbot | Fender, Level 70 Night Elf Druid. 10344 HP, 6935 Mana. |
| 23:14.50 | Kaso | oh perhaps im lying |
| 23:14.53 | Kaso | Coroutines in Lua are not operating system threads or processes. >.< |
| 23:15.00 | Kaso | wonder what i was thinking of then... |
| 23:16.23 | Kaso | perhaps im mixing up with java |
| 23:16.32 | Kaso | being doing alot of that lately >.< |
| 23:23.31 | foxlit | #quit |
| 23:23.47 | foxlit | tsk |
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| 23:26.48 | foxlit | #char EU Maghteridon Kungen |
| 23:26.49 | Foxbot | That is not the character you're looking for, foxlit. |
| 23:27.29 | Kaso | haha |
| 23:27.30 | foxlit | #char EU Magtheridon Kungen |
| 23:27.31 | Foxbot | Kungen, Level 70 Warrior. 17119 HP, 100 Mana. 194 Agi; 224 Str; 18570 Armor. |
| 23:27.49 | Kaso | 100 mana! |
| 23:28.04 | foxlit | It's a ragebar I'm failing to account for |
| 23:28.23 | Polarina | #char EU Scarshield Legion Polarina |
| 23:28.24 | Foxbot | Polarina, Level 47 Hunter. 2654 HP, 2145 Mana. 192 Agi. |
| 23:28.28 | Polarina | :) |
| 23:28.58 | foxlit | #mreload armorystats |
| 23:29.37 | Polarina | #char EU Scarshield Legion Polarina |
| 23:29.42 | Polarina | ... |
| 23:29.44 | foxlit | sec |
| 23:29.58 | foxlit | #mreload armorystats |
| 23:29.58 | Foxbot | Reloading [armorystats] |
| 23:30.05 | Polarina | Done? |
| 23:30.08 | foxlit | Yep |
| 23:30.20 | Polarina | #char EU Scarshield Legion Polarina |
| 23:30.28 | Polarina | ... |
| 23:30.42 | foxlit | #char EU Scarshield Legion Polarina |
| 23:30.43 | Foxbot | Polarina, Level 47 Hunter. 2654 HP; 2145 Mana; 192 Agi. |
| 23:30.51 | Polarina | Same. :) |
| 23:30.57 | foxlit | #char EU Magtheridon Kungen |
| 23:30.58 | Foxbot | Kungen, Level 70 Warrior. 17119 HP; 194 Agi; 224 Str; 18570 Armor. |
| 23:31.00 | Polarina | Now lets check my guild bank. |
| 23:31.09 | Polarina | #char EU Scarshield Legion Enasha |
| 23:31.10 | Foxbot | Enasha, Level 13 Warrior. 318 HP. |
| 23:31.14 | Polarina | :) |
| 23:31.48 | Adys|Miranda | #char EU Stormrage Adys |
| 23:31.49 | Foxbot | Adys, Level 70 Mage. 7343 HP; 8396 Mana; 1002 +Heal. |
| 23:31.56 | Adys|Miranda | +heal? |
| 23:32.00 | Adys|Miranda | you mean +dmg and heal |
| 23:32.03 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+o Adys] by ChanServ |
| 23:32.04 | Polarina | #char EU Scarshield Legion * |
| 23:32.05 | Foxbot | That is not the character you're looking for, Polarina. |
| 23:32.19 | Polarina | Foxbot: You don't know what I'm looking for! |
| 23:32.36 | Adys | lol |
| 23:34.24 | foxlit | Adys: there's no explicit +damage |
| 23:34.28 | foxlit | So I'm ignoring it atm |
| 23:34.34 | foxlit | #char EU Magtheridon Kungen |
| 23:34.35 | Foxbot | Kungen, Level 70 Warrior. 17119 HP; 390 +def 194 Agi; 30.55% block 224 Str; 18570 Armor; 27% dodg. |
| 23:34.37 | Adys | oh |
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| 23:44.20 | foxlit | #char EU Stormrage Adys |
| 23:44.22 | Foxbot | Adys, Level 70 Mage. 7343 HP; 8396 Mana; 1002 +all. |
| 23:47.51 | foxlit | #char EU Stormrage Adys |
| 23:47.52 | Foxbot | Adys, Level 70 Mage (20/0/41). 7343 HP; 8396 Mana; 1002 +dmg. |
| 23:48.05 | Adys | i also got 1002 +healing btw |
| 23:49.16 | foxlit | But that's boring :) |
| 23:49.16 | Adys | :P |
| 23:51.25 | foxlit | #char EU Stormrage Adys |
| 23:51.26 | Foxbot | Adys, Level 70 Mage (20/0/41). 7343 HP; 8396 Mana; 4.28% +spellhit 1002 +dmg. |
| 23:51.33 | Adys | spellcrit plx |
| 23:51.47 | foxlit | crit is another one of those evil per school stats |
| 23:52.49 | foxlit | #char EU Stormrage Adys |
| 23:52.49 | Foxbot | Adys, Level 70 Mage (20/0/41). 7343 HP; 8396 Mana; 4.28% +spellhit; 110% spellcrit rating; 1002 +dmg. |
| 23:52.58 | Adys | 110% rating? eh |
| 23:53.08 | foxlit | Enigma buff description is still evil :P |
| 23:53.14 | foxlit | Enigma buff description is still evil :P |
| 23:53.16 | foxlit | #char EU Stormrage Adys |
| 23:53.16 | Foxbot | Adys, Level 70 Mage (20/0/41). 7343 HP; 8396 Mana; 4.28% +spellhit; 110 spellcrit rating; 1002 +dmg. |
