| 00:00.01 | Adys | meh whatever really |
| 00:00.03 | TecnoBrat | hmmm so there is the whole area above SoS and below badlands |
| 00:00.08 | TecnoBrat | anyone know what that is? |
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| 00:00.31 | Adys | I dont like being hugged |
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| 00:00.51 | Adys | TecnoBrat: yes lol |
| 00:00.52 | Kirkburn|afk | heh, TecnoBrat, it would be the rest of the Redridge Mounts |
| 00:00.56 | Adys | it actually has a name |
| 00:01.00 | Adys | "Zone 51" |
| 00:01.03 | Kirkburn|afk | *Mountains |
| 00:01.07 | Adys | thats how people called it for a while |
| 00:01.20 | Adys | well, at least thats how I knew it was called |
| 00:01.30 | Adys | but yeh its the redridge mountains |
| 00:01.33 | Adys | ARGH BLIZZ |
| 00:01.42 | Adys | give me a terrain editor |
| 00:01.50 | Adys | I'd work day and night to make that shit flyable |
| 00:02.17 | Kaso | ha |
| 00:02.20 | Kirkburn|afk | Maybe they're doing that already! \o/ |
| 00:02.27 | Kirkburn|afk | It would be awesome |
| 00:02.28 | Adys | i doubt it |
| 00:02.37 | Kaso | the big question (which i think i heard in here) is will northern be flyable |
| 00:02.45 | Kaso | because flying mounts really trivialise quests |
| 00:02.52 | Gryphen | model editor |
| 00:02.56 | Gryphen | terrain is flyable |
| 00:03.00 | TecnoBrat | No, no its not redridge. |
| 00:03.00 | TecnoBrat | http://www.worldofwar.net/cartography/worldmap/easterncont.php |
| 00:03.09 | Kirkburn|afk | Go kill this dude! Okay, I'll drop just behind him and assassinate him. Right. Next! |
| 00:03.17 | TecnoBrat | sorry, between redridge / badlands |
| 00:03.25 | TecnoBrat | there is easily enough room for a whole zone. |
| 00:03.41 | Kirkburn|afk | TecnoBrat, the area we know as Redridge isn't the full extent of the area known as Redridge Mts |
| 00:03.59 | Kirkburn|afk | Before Raggy and the DI dwarves came along, most of the continents was those mts |
| 00:04.11 | TecnoBrat | just a buncha unmapped area called redridge then eh? |
| 00:04.18 | Kirkburn|afk | Searing Gorge, Dun Morogh, other hot place, all the same mts |
| 00:04.50 | Kirkburn|afk | Then they went and blew it all up. Which I bet looked cool. |
| 00:05.03 | TecnoBrat | oh right, I knew that :/ |
| 00:05.04 | Gryphen | nice new top bar on google |
| 00:05.09 | TecnoBrat | that makes sense |
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| 00:05.23 | Kirkburn|afk | So yeah, it would be an extension of the mountains, but they could still do stuff with it |
| 00:05.25 | Adys | hello kasobot! |
| 00:06.35 | TecnoBrat | Uldum would also be cool, that whole storyline interests me |
| 00:06.44 | Kirkburn|afk | It's fun how EK has 5 marked, unused zones, whereas Kalimdor has ... none. |
| 00:06.57 | TecnoBrat | Well, Hyjal. |
| 00:07.09 | TecnoBrat | If you want to count that one :P |
| 00:07.23 | Kirkburn|afk | Bah, humbug ^^ |
| 00:07.29 | Kirkburn|afk | Close enough =) |
| 00:07.48 | Adys | Sunken Kalimdor.. |
| 00:07.50 | Adys | Undermine, hah |
| 00:07.53 | Adys | that was in the alpha! |
| 00:08.05 | Kirkburn|afk | whaa? |
| 00:08.05 | TecnoBrat | And the small mountain range under Ungoro, not that it would probably ever be used for anything |
| 00:08.24 | Adys | There was an undermine instance in the beta |
| 00:08.27 | Adys | was only water |
| 00:08.40 | Kirkburn|afk | What, just a giant block of water? |
| 00:08.42 | TecnoBrat | And silithus is still 1/2 the size of the landmass, but they made that make sense because the other have is an instance ... |
| 00:08.44 | Adys | yeah |
| 00:08.45 | Adys | like sea |
| 00:08.54 | Kirkburn|afk | *me dies of shock* |
| 00:08.54 | TecnoBrat | half* |
| 00:09.07 | Adys | you didnt know that? :P |
| 00:09.10 | Adys | its a known fact |
| 00:09.12 | Adys | kasobot, sup |
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| 00:10.00 | TecnoBrat | Adys, whoa, its near rachet? |
| 00:10.07 | TecnoBrat | I'm looking at the old map on wowwiki |
| 00:10.10 | Adys | no |
| 00:10.39 | Adys | it was an instance, so nowhere on the terrain |
| 00:10.40 | Adys | and not mentionned on the map |
| 00:10.40 | TecnoBrat | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Undermine.jpg <= shows where rachet is |
| 00:10.40 | Adys | but its south of kalimdor normally |
| 00:10.49 | Adys | uh |
| 00:10.52 | Adys | where? |
| 00:10.57 | TecnoBrat | top left of the pic |
| 00:11.06 | Kirkburn|afk | Arrow for boat route |
| 00:11.15 | TecnoBrat | ahh you are right |
| 00:11.16 | Adys | http://adys.stools.net/WoWworldmap.jpg |
| 00:11.23 | TecnoBrat | shitty quality pic |
| 00:11.27 | Adys | yah |
| 00:11.43 | Adys | :> |
| 00:11.46 | TecnoBrat | oh, okay, I see now |
| 00:13.11 | Kirkburn|afk | wait that pic is completely weird compared to the RPG book |
| 00:13.20 | Adys | which? |
| 00:13.23 | TecnoBrat | hmmm that map definately follows the idea that it would be teh goblin starting area if they made it a playable race |
| 00:13.30 | Kirkburn|afk | Undermine is shown as a separate continent on yours .... in LoM it's a place on Kezan! |
| 00:13.31 | Adys | Undermine.jpg or WoWworldmap.jpg ? |
| 00:13.35 | Kirkburn|afk | latter |
| 00:13.43 | TecnoBrat | the boats being to the goblin cities and all |
| 00:14.14 | Adys | i cant say |
| 00:14.21 | Kirkburn|afk | undermine.jpg shows the island of Kezan |
| 00:14.25 | Adys | i think theres been some retcon shit at some point, somewhere |
| 00:14.40 | Adys | but im not a lore expert and cant say which one is "correct" |
| 00:14.47 | Adys | im 99% sure the worldmap is official |
| 00:14.56 | Adys | but it was really early in wow |
| 00:15.02 | Kirkburn|afk | LoM is 2005 |
| 00:15.10 | Adys | this one must be like 2003 |
| 00:15.22 | Adys | hm no |
| 00:15.24 | Adys | 2004 |
| 00:15.39 | Adys | hey wait no, 2003 was right |
| 00:15.46 | Kirkburn|afk | Well, we do know that Northrend is significantly larger than in that map |
| 00:15.48 | Adys | ha, whatever |
| 00:16.14 | Adys | i wonder if blizz will ever release zones in patches and not only expansions |
| 00:16.15 | Kirkburn|afk | And I bet they increase the size of the Southern Seas stuff |
| 00:16.22 | Adys | i mean theres the whole sunwell grove thing |
| 00:16.32 | Kirkburn|afk | yes indeed |
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| 00:26.37 | Adys | kay |
| 00:26.39 | Adys | going to bed |
| 00:26.45 | Adys | or gonna try at least |
| 00:26.47 | Adys | nn ppl |
| 00:26.49 | DuTempete | night |
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| 01:21.25 | DuTempete | http://www.wowwiki.com/Mana-Etched_Regalia |
| 01:21.45 | DuTempete | Anyone else bothered by the fact that it says "intended for mages, locks, and shadow priests"? |
| 01:21.56 | DuTempete | and that nav template at the top taking up so much damned room? |
| 01:22.19 | DuTempete | or that it's in each of the class set categories? |
| 01:23.57 | DuTempete | I would much rather see the intro say that it was intended for mages, and then have a notes section in the bottom saying that it would be beneficial to locks and shadow priests as well |
| 01:25.15 | DuTempete | And I would love to see that template get reduced in size |
| 01:25.20 | Kaso | i have issues!, oblivion is much better for shadowpriests and warlocks! |
| 01:25.27 | DuTempete | lol |
| 01:25.32 | DuTempete | so true |
| 01:25.46 | Kaso | but yah it would be better to say "Intended for mages, but shadowpriests and warlocks can find some use from it also" or something along those lines |
| 01:25.51 | DuTempete | well, I think mana-etched is good for shadow priests |
| 01:26.06 | DuTempete | the SPs don't benefit from the set bonuses in oblivion |
| 01:26.52 | DuTempete | I just don't wanna see the "This class needs this more!" BS on the wiki |
| 01:26.57 | Kaso | true but all the crit on mana etched doesnt help SPs either |
| 01:27.06 | DuTempete | true |
| 01:27.08 | Kaso | Well its clear that its a mage set, so at least that should be states |
| 01:27.10 | Kaso | stated |
| 01:27.31 | DuTempete | if only because the oblivion set is more clearly lock, and the other one os more clearly priest |
| 01:27.50 | DuTempete | What do you think about that nav template, though? |
| 01:28.11 | Kaso | cant say i mind it too much tbh |
| 01:28.41 | MatthewS | dunno, doesnt look all that mage'ey. more like a general caster set |
| 01:29.11 | DuTempete | I think mebbe it would be best with links to the other dungeon 3 sets in one section, and then another section with ilnks to the categories for the other types of sets |
| 01:29.25 | DuTempete | but not links to every class's set |
| 01:30.01 | Kaso | MatthewS, but there are sets for each class, so you can assume that it is a "mage set" just like devout was a "priest set" and whatever at level 60 |
| 01:31.09 | MatthewS | but Incanter is the mage set |
| 01:31.25 | Kaso | oh, you're right |
| 01:31.27 | DuTempete | Well, they've done this dungeon set a little differently than they did the first |
| 01:31.29 | Kaso | i forgot all about that set |
| 01:31.36 | Kaso | silly me |
| 01:31.39 | DuTempete | in the first, there were only 8 |
| 01:31.40 | MatthewS | Incanter also has more slots for crit based gems |
| 01:31.43 | DuTempete | err 9 |
| 01:31.44 | Kaso | ok ignore my stupid ranting :> |
| 01:31.48 | DuTempete | hehe |
| 01:31.49 | MatthewS | guess what class i play 95% of the time in game ;) |
| 01:31.59 | DuTempete | *nod* |
| 01:32.05 | MatthewS | i think mana etched is a generic high-end pve set |
| 01:32.22 | DuTempete | But in the first dungeon set, they were more focused on a class per set |
| 01:32.34 | DuTempete | now, in thsi one, they're more focused on a play style |
| 01:32.37 | DuTempete | which is awesome |
| 01:32.43 | DuTempete | I wish they did that for every set |
| 01:32.59 | DuTempete | So, I don't think it should be classified by a class at all |
| 01:33.22 | DuTempete | Except, maybe, the ones that have class specific talents |
| 01:33.29 | DuTempete | err set bonuses |
| 01:33.59 | MatthewS | I think they were starting to get there with the iron-whatever set before TBC |
| 01:34.54 | Kaso | DuTempete, perhaps "Magicial dps" would be a better replacement on mana-etched then |
| 01:35.03 | DuTempete | *nod* |
| 01:35.03 | Kaso | intended for magicial dps classes |
| 01:35.10 | Kaso | or "damage casters" |
| 01:35.12 | DuTempete | more like DPS casters who don't want crit |
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| 01:35.45 | DuTempete | err.. well geez |
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| 01:36.48 | DuTempete | ah... the mana-etched has penetration |
| 01:38.12 | Kaso | mana-etched would be a awesome smitepriest set |
| 01:38.12 | DuTempete | oblivion has hit, hallowed has +heal, and incanter has more +dmg/crit |
| 01:38.12 | Kaso | pewpewpew |
| 01:38.12 | DuTempete | yeah, it would |
| 01:38.42 | DuTempete | I would almost say that set was made for SPs... priest is the only class with such a night and day difference between talents tress... in cloth, anyway |
| 01:39.05 | DuTempete | Druids, pallies, and shammies are like that, too |
| 01:39.14 | Kaso | mana etch? nah its more a generic, we dislike crit muchly |
| 01:39.35 | Kaso | hit and spelldamage are what we like and they are what oblivion gives, so warlocks can go qq more :> |
| 01:39.41 | DuTempete | hrmm |
| 01:39.48 | DuTempete | so wtf is the purpose of mana-etched, anyway? |
| 01:40.04 | Kaso | just generic i guess |
| 01:40.26 | DuTempete | I mean, penetration is important to everyone... but just as much as hit is |
| 01:40.32 | DuTempete | if not less, so |
| 01:40.42 | Kaso | penetration sucks blah >.< |
| 01:40.48 | DuTempete | it doesn't suck |
| 01:41.01 | DuTempete | it just works differently than hit does, from what I understand |
| 01:41.29 | Kaso | it does, but if the mobs dont have any innate resistances its useless for pve, and for pvp nowadays all you want is stam and resiliance mainly |
| 01:43.47 | DuTempete | Oh, I see... I;ve got the two backwards... it's a little confusing |
| 01:44.12 | DuTempete | so penetration is for partial resists? |
| 01:44.20 | DuTempete | and +hit is for full resists... |
| 01:44.24 | Kaso | not quite |
| 01:44.29 | Kaso | but almost :> |
| 01:45.55 | sancus | except for unmitigatible partials |
| 01:45.55 | sancus | which are, as the name implies, unmitigatible |
| 01:45.59 | DuTempete | well I was thinking it was the toher way around |
| 01:46.20 | DuTempete | I mean, as a lock, I suffer a lot more from partial resists, than I do full resists... |
| 01:46.29 | Kaso | Penetration was blizzards response to everyone having low all around resistances from tier 1/2 but since the stopped wasting item budget on that its pretty much useless |
| 01:47.25 | Kaso | if you're doing pve then you need 16% to hi and then all is good, if you're doing pvp you need 4% (is it 5) to hit then maybe a smattering of peneration |
| 01:47.31 | Kaso | pretty much the forumula |
| 01:48.24 | sancus | 3% |
| 01:48.35 | sancus | base resist rate is 4%, cap is 99% hit rate |
| 01:48.40 | Kaso | there you go |
| 01:49.03 | sancus | you only really need spellhit vs bosses |
| 01:49.14 | sancus | everything else you don't need anything except for +dmg/+crit |
| 01:49.24 | Kaso | which is why you see so many mages wearing http://www.wowhead.com/?item=31297 |
| 01:49.29 | Kaso | 30 hit is crazy |
| 01:49.31 | DuTempete | and crit is useless for me against everything else =P |
| 01:49.39 | sancus | well |
| 01:49.58 | DuTempete | wow, that *is* nuts |
| 01:50.03 | sancus | that and that robe is by far the best blue in the game for dps in that slot |
| 01:50.33 | DuTempete | but sadly, it has no sta :( |
| 01:50.38 | sancus | but quality mages wear spellfire or maybe frozen shadoweave(if they're pvp) |
| 01:50.42 | sancus | sta has no function in pve |
| 01:50.54 | DuTempete | bullshit |
| 01:51.02 | DuTempete | A. Warlocks |
| 01:51.03 | sancus | at least not for warlocks |
| 01:51.16 | sancus | mages need some because our base hp is fucking terrible |
| 01:51.24 | DuTempete | B. bosses who deal tremendous amounts of damage at once, such as Curator, and Shade of Aran |
| 01:51.41 | abec | thats what food and drink buffs are for ;p |
| 01:51.41 | sancus | curator you wear arcane resist and sta specially for |
| 01:51.57 | abec | we never wear arcane resist gear for curator |
| 01:51.57 | sancus | warlocks don't depend on sta |
| 01:52.02 | DuTempete | I'm the hateful bolt soaker ion Curater, and at 10hp, I'm barely past the safe point |
| 01:52.08 | sancus | it's a common misconception that your health pool is your mana pool as a warlock |
| 01:52.09 | sancus | it's false |
| 01:52.17 | DuTempete | we do, too... if we don't have sta, we can't regen mana |
| 01:52.21 | DuTempete | oh? how's that? |
| 01:52.22 | sancus | your mana pool is your healer's mana pools(and/or infinite and free) |
| 01:52.26 | sancus | if you have a shadow priest with you |
| 01:52.32 | sancus | if your healers don't keep you topped up |
| 01:52.35 | sancus | they are useless morons |
| 01:52.39 | DuTempete | fuck that |
| 01:52.41 | sancus | so sta is useless |
| 01:52.45 | DuTempete | I don't want healers healing me |
| 01:52.48 | sancus | ???? |
| 01:53.00 | DuTempete | that's why I have siphon life and drain life |
| 01:53.00 | sancus | that's the entire point of warlocks heh |
| 01:53.00 | sancus | boggle |
| 01:53.03 | DuTempete | I can survive most fights w/o getting healed |
| 01:53.06 | sancus | please don't spout fallacies in here |
| 01:53.10 | DuTempete | and have infinite mana |
| 01:53.14 | sancus | those things have bad dps |
| 01:53.20 | DuTempete | meh |
| 01:53.32 | DuTempete | more DPS than what I put out, and I get wonked by agro |
| 01:53.38 | DuTempete | which is what I *don't* want |
| 01:53.39 | sancus | get a better tank |
| 01:53.39 | Kaso | arcane resist? pssh, bring a shadow priest and let your healers go wild they'll never run out of mana |
| 01:53.50 | sancus | Kaso: well yes |
| 01:53.53 | DuTempete | We tried that, Kaso |
| 01:53.54 | sancus | but not everyone brings shadow priests to kara /shrug |
| 01:53.55 | Kaso | as a sp its scary how much mana you can make during evo :> |
| 01:53.56 | DuTempete | Didn't work well |
| 01:53.58 | sancus | if you have a shadow priest its ezmode |
| 01:54.20 | sancus | If you heal yourself as a warlock you're throwing dps away for no good reason, let your healers heal you, that's why they exist |
| 01:54.43 | DuTempete | Have you ever played a healer, Sancus? |
| 01:54.47 | sancus | If they can't keep a renew on you |
| 01:54.52 | sancus | they dont know wtf they're doing |
| 01:55.06 | sancus | and one renew converts into like 3k mana |
| 01:55.23 | sancus | that's a dumb question |
| 01:55.28 | sancus | I'mt elling you waht the best warlocks in the game do |
| 01:55.31 | sancus | If you don't want to believe me then continue |
| 01:55.35 | DuTempete | Well I thought you just said that sta is not the same as mana for me? |
| 01:55.36 | sancus | but I suspect that their experience is superior to yours |
| 01:55.57 | sancus | Even if you gear for pure +dmg a warlock is still going to have like 8k+ hp raid buffed |
| 01:56.00 | DuTempete | and you're telling me that renew does? |
| 01:56.06 | sancus | which is more than enough |
| 01:56.23 | DuTempete | Have you done Shade of Aran, yet? |
| 01:56.34 | DuTempete | The guy does 7.5k dmg in one hit |
| 01:56.37 | sancus | uhhh |
| 01:56.39 | DuTempete | and targts low HP |
| 01:56.52 | sancus | my guild is in TK |
| 01:56.54 | sancus | so um yes |
| 01:57.15 | DuTempete | I wouldn't wnt to go in that room with only 8k... |
| 01:57.44 | DuTempete | lol I wasn't accusing you of being a nub... just asking, don't need to get snarky =P |
| 01:57.53 | sancus | aran doesn't hit for 7.5k |
| 01:57.56 | sancus | dunno what you're talking about |
| 01:58.00 | DuTempete | pyroblast? |
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| 01:58.22 | DuTempete | We're prepping for Aran right now... so I'm going off what's on the Wiki |
| 01:58.38 | sancus | oh you're talking about that |
| 01:58.41 | sancus | it's uh fire damage |
| 01:58.43 | sancus | quaff a potion etc |
| 01:58.44 | DuTempete | yeah |
| 01:58.47 | sancus | it only happens once |
| 01:59.15 | sancus | 7.5k hp is fairly trivial for a warlock though |
| 01:59.21 | sancus | and should happen just automatically you don't need to gear for stamina at all |
| 01:59.29 | DuTempete | See, we don't run with res pots, can't afford it |
| 01:59.30 | sancus | my mage's gear is terrible and he has almost 7k raid buffed :/ |
| 02:00.03 | sancus | you can afford a greater fire prot potion :P |
| 02:00.52 | DuTempete | Well, personally, I like having 10k hp, it's a good buffer for anythign that'll happen to me... beyond that, I'm questioning the necessity |
| 02:01.02 | sancus | that's way too much |
| 02:01.14 | sancus | warlocks in TK don't have that much |
| 02:01.15 | sancus | its pointless |
| 02:02.02 | DuTempete | well, I disagree =P |
| 02:02.05 | sancus | warlocks are the single most powerful dps class in the game |
| 02:02.07 | sancus | they should optimize for that |
| 02:02.14 | DuTempete | since when? |
| 02:02.18 | sancus | since BC |
| 02:02.29 | DuTempete | now I'm really confused... |
| 02:02.31 | sancus | warlocks and shadow priests are always at the top of dps meters if they are playing right |
| 02:02.53 | sancus | http://www.cs.iastate.edu/~vulture/WoW/leotheras-kill.jpg |
| 02:02.53 | sancus | example |
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| 02:03.04 | sancus | (vulture was tanking, ignore him) |
| 02:03.20 | DuTempete | ntm... as I'm improving my +dmg, my sta is increasing... |
| 02:03.36 | DuTempete | kinda the way blizz has it set up for locks |
| 02:04.20 | sancus | I'm just saying oyu should always pick the highest dps stat item for a slot that is available to you |
| 02:04.21 | sancus | always |
| 02:04.29 | sancus | lots of the best items for their slots come with stamina anyway /shrug |
| 02:04.46 | sancus | but f ex the best bracer in the game is a green +shadow damage thing |
| 02:05.02 | sancus | so thats what you'd wear |
| 02:05.06 | sancus | fortunately most of the time thats not the case! |
| 02:05.21 | DuTempete | What class do you play, sancus? |
| 02:05.37 | sancus | mage |
| 02:05.50 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/16/build-shop-shaman-40-0-21/ |
| 02:06.20 | DuTempete | see, I'm kinda bothered by just pure shadow damage, anyway |
| 02:06.24 | DuTempete | sure it really buffs your dots |
| 02:06.38 | DuTempete | but while the dots are ticking away, I'm using fire nukes, not just shadow bolt |
| 02:06.56 | DuTempete | esp considering one of my dots is fire, and with the new addition of incinerate |
| 02:07.16 | sancus | well |
| 02:07.17 | sancus | you shouldn't do that |
| 02:07.23 | sancus | because shadow-based specs are better than fire |
| 02:07.40 | sancus | for a few reasons |
| 02:07.41 | sancus | unfortunately |
| 02:07.53 | sancus | (unless you have a fire mage but NOT a shadow priest, then its almost even) |
| 02:08.56 | DuTempete | but for locks? |
| 02:09.28 | DuTempete | I mean, what's the DPS difference between 1.3k shadow dmg bonus, and 1k pure dmg bonus? |
| 02:10.02 | DuTempete | I would hav to do the math, but looking at it, I would guess that 1k pure dmg would be better |
| 02:10.03 | sancus | uh a lot |
| 02:10.05 | Kaso | get SW:Stats out and see what % of your damage is shadow what is fire |
| 02:10.08 | sancus | no? |
| 02:10.15 | sancus | If you're playing shadow-based you use shadow bolt |
| 02:10.17 | DuTempete | where do you get that, Kaso? |
| 02:10.18 | sancus | the only fire thing you use is immolate |
| 02:10.22 | sancus | and it's like 8% of your dps |
| 02:10.27 | Kaso | sw:stats? check wowi or curse? |
| 02:10.59 | sancus | incinerate is bad |
| 02:11.02 | sancus | conflag specs are bad |
| 02:11.19 | Kaso | turn it on head upto dr.boom and do some real world tests, i always think thats best |
| 02:11.20 | DuTempete | wouldn't incinerate have a better chance of gaining more DPS than shadow bolt? |
| 02:11.28 | DuTempete | incinerate doesn't have anything to do with conflagrate |
| 02:11.35 | sancus | I know |
| 02:11.39 | sancus | I was just talking about fire-based specs heh |
| 02:11.41 | DuTempete | they both react off the same spell, yes, but they're not related to each other |
| 02:11.57 | sancus | how does incinerate have a better chance of gaining more dps than shadow bolt |
| 02:12.10 | sancus | it lacks improved shadow bolt which is the single most powerful dps talent in the game |
| 02:12.15 | DuTempete | well I *do* know that when I use incinerate between dot refreshes, my DPS is better than when I use shadow bolt |
| 02:12.27 | sancus | that's illogical |
| 02:12.30 | sancus | shadow bolt does more dps straight up |
| 02:12.36 | DuTempete | well guess what? I'm an afflic lock =P |
| 02:12.41 | DuTempete | incinerate casts faster |
| 02:12.52 | sancus | don't spec that way |
| 02:12.54 | sancus | is the answer |
| 02:12.56 | sancus | because it's not good |
| 02:12.59 | DuTempete | I like my spec |
| 02:13.03 | sancus | *shrug* |
| 02:13.07 | DuTempete | I don't spec for uberness |
| 02:13.09 | abec | shadowbolt is probably the most overpowered cast in the game |
| 02:13.10 | sancus | you aren't going to do good dps with it, though |
| 02:13.17 | sancus | all my advice is based on doing the most dps |
| 02:13.24 | sancus | if you aren't going to spec for it you've already lost and theres not much more ot say about it! |
| 02:13.48 | DuTempete | See, you could hav all the DPS in the world and it only does so much good |
| 02:13.55 | abec | 1. Abec's Execute crits Magtheridon for 8397. |
| 02:13.55 | abec | 2. Kensrue's Shadow Bolt crits Magtheridon for 8001 Shadow damage. (468 resisted) |
| 02:13.58 | abec | 3. Kensrue's Shadow Bolt crits Magtheridon for 5775 Shadow damage. |
| 02:14.01 | abec | 4. Kensrue's Shadow Bolt crits Magtheridon for 5738 Shadow damage. |
| 02:14.03 | abec | 5. Kensrue's Shadow Bolt crits Magtheridon for 5686 Shadow damage. |
| 02:14.08 | abec | the top 10 was 1 me, the rest kensrues shadow bolts |
| 02:14.08 | DuTempete | Beyond a point, all you're doing is causing problems |
| 02:14.16 | DuTempete | If you have to hold back, you have too much DPS |
| 02:14.26 | DuTempete | hehe |
| 02:14.31 | DuTempete | Yeah, imp SB is killer |
| 02:14.32 | sancus | We have an affliction lock, but he still has Bane and Improved Shadow Bolt |
| 02:15.11 | sancus | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-talents.xml?r=Executus&n=Tojoro |
| 02:15.17 | sancus | example of a decent lock! |
| 02:16.13 | sancus | you do not have to hold back on non-aggro wipe fights |
| 02:16.16 | sancus | unless your tank is bad |
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| 02:16.29 | sancus | and on aggro wipe fights everyone has to manage their aggro so the point's moot |
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| 02:18.02 | sancus | he's not quite as dedicated to max dps as vulture |
| 02:18.11 | sancus | I wish I could paste vultures gear but the loser keeps logging out in his tank gear, asshole |
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| 02:29.19 | Kaso | KasoBot, pause 1 |
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| 02:29.56 | Kaso | KasoBot, die |
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| 02:50.49 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/16/rogue-sword-spec-fixed-for-2-1/ |
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| 03:08.38 | Kaso | wtf is an oil spill |
| 03:09.01 | Kaso | like a fish pool just with a black mist and a tipped up barrel in it |
| 03:10.20 | TecnoBrat | uhhh an oil spill? |
| 03:10.34 | TecnoBrat | its when a big oil ship springs a leak |
| 03:10.42 | Kaso | in game noon |
| 03:10.44 | Kaso | noob |
| 03:12.28 | TecnoBrat | oh, those have firefin, oily blackmouth, and random objects in them |
| 03:14.45 | [NewsBot] | MMO Champion: Instance maps updated, Forte in Hyjal, Vashj movie, MMO-Champion 2.1 - http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=196.0 |
| 03:22.41 | Devilkoul | http://www.knbc.com/news/13328254/detail.html?dl=headlineclick |
| 03:22.45 | Devilkoul | undead rogue attacks church |
| 03:29.52 | abec | stfu |
| 03:29.55 | abec | thats my headlin! |
| 03:30.14 | abec | needs to respec prep, vanish was on cooldown |
| 03:38.13 | Devilkoul | haha |
| 03:38.15 | Devilkoul | jacked |
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| 04:59.25 | Hobinheim | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:59.37 | Hobinheim | apparently i can't download fourteen things and browse the web at the same time |
| 04:59.39 | Hobinheim | what a jip |
| 04:59.47 | Hobinheim | and warcraft actually doesn't impress me |
| 04:59.53 | Hobinheim | i feel like i got a sub par card |
| 04:59.58 | Hobinheim | or maybe i shouldn't have turned on all the options? |
| 05:04.58 | sancus | what card did you get |
| 05:05.05 | Hobinheim | whatever the stock one is |
| 05:05.09 | sancus | mmm |
| 05:05.13 | sancus | not sure if the stock mac pro card is very good |
| 05:05.23 | JunkHead-Work | I kidna want a mac. |
| 05:05.26 | JunkHead-Work | Kinda* |
| 05:05.36 | JunkHead-Work | I would either get a real high-end one, or a mini. |
| 05:05.55 | sancus | Like options? You have three powerful graphics cards from which to choose, including the NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT (256MB), ATI Radeon X1900 XT (512MB), and NVIDIA Quadro FX 4500 (512MB). |
| 05:06.04 | Hobinheim | nvidia gforce |
| 05:06.04 | JunkHead-Work | But a high end seems to be ridiculously expensive.:( |
| 05:06.08 | Hobinheim | 7300 gt |
| 05:06.18 | Hobinheim | 256 |
| 05:06.19 | sancus | that card is bad |
| 05:06.21 | Hobinheim | it's unimpressive |
| 05:06.22 | Hobinheim | fuck |
| 05:06.28 | Hobinheim | gotta play ghetto wow again =( |
| 05:06.32 | JunkHead-Work | 7300 GT. |
| 05:06.35 | JunkHead-Work | Budget card? |
| 05:06.39 | sancus | the 1900xt and quadro fx 4500 are both much much better |
| 05:06.42 | Hobinheim | don't make fun of me |
| 05:06.56 | JunkHead-Work | I'm not making fun of you. |
| 05:07.02 | sancus | I am. |
| 05:07.09 | sancus | I have a 7800gt and I bought my machine 1.5 years ago. |
| 05:07.23 | JunkHead-Work | Perhaps you can exchange the card and just pay the difference? |
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| 05:10.20 | JunkHead-Work | Poop, the Spurs are beating the Suns by 3 points now. |
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| 05:20.49 | Hobinheim | or i'll jsut tone downt he settnigs and play ghetto wow |
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| 05:46.22 | JunkHead-Work | Ok so anyway... |
| 05:46.32 | JunkHead-Work | Today was my first day raiding with my new guild. |
| 05:47.07 | JunkHead-Work | We did 3 bosses and the Opera event in Karazhan. |
| 05:47.11 | JunkHead-Work | :) |
| 06:01.33 | TecnoBrat | nooo Skosiris what are you doing?! :P |
| 06:02.11 | Skosiris | updating the site with some new data, just out of the oven :D |
| 06:03.11 | TecnoBrat | haha nope |
| 06:03.18 | TecnoBrat | I went to go check on a quest for my shaman |
| 06:03.20 | TecnoBrat | and it was down |
| 06:03.34 | TecnoBrat | fresh data is always nice tho :P |
| 06:03.54 | Skosiris | almost done |
| 06:04.30 | TecnoBrat | just had to come give you shit, lol |
| 06:04.35 | Skosiris | lol |
| 06:05.04 | TecnoBrat | what kind of data? |
| 06:05.07 | TecnoBrat | ptr stuff? |
| 06:05.29 | Skosiris | pretty much everything |
| 06:11.02 | Skosiris | TecnoBrat: site back up |
| 06:11.10 | TecnoBrat | sweet |
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| 06:26.52 | Fisker- | w00t |
| 06:26.56 | Fisker- | they finally fixed sword spec |
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| 06:45.22 | abecx | sup i'm back |
| 06:45.48 | abecx | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:IRC |
| 06:46.00 | abecx | the icon for WoWWIKI shouldnt say Mirc as that is a client |
| 06:46.14 | abecx | should say WoWWiki IRC |
| 07:00.17 | [NewsBot] | GamePolitics: http://gamepolitics.com/2007/05/17/tv-news-has-video-report-on-v-tech-game-controversy/ |
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| 07:21.14 | [NewsBot] | GamePolitics: http://gamepolitics.com/2007/05/17/best-buy-to-feature-game-ratings-from-common-sense-media/ |
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| 08:09.44 | [NewsBot] | Blizzplanet: The Road to Blizzard Invitationals - Day 5 - http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=1362 |
| 08:11.30 | Fisker- | niiiiiiice |
| 08:11.37 | Fisker- | anyone know where to play that vtech game? :O |
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| 08:59.05 | Kirkburn|afk | Morning |
| 09:03.12 | Skosiris | Guten Morgen! |
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| 09:04.52 | Teomyr | morning! |
| 09:10.16 | [NewsBot] | GamePolitics: http://gamepolitics.com/2007/05/17/ny-politician-compares-v-tech-rampage-to-gta-iv/ |
| 09:13.06 | Fisker- | bah |
| 09:13.11 | Fisker- | Vtech isn't in NY |
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| 10:10.14 | [NewsBot] | GamePolitics: http://gamepolitics.com/2007/05/17/esa-names-michael-gallagher-to-top-job/ |
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| 11:06.06 | dotted | !updatewwstats |
| 11:14.56 | dotted | Adys wasn't very popular, getting kicked 5 times! |
| 11:14.56 | dotted | For example, like this: |
| 11:14.56 | dotted | *** teabingh was kicked by teabingh |
| 11:14.59 | dotted | rotfl |
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| 11:47.10 | Kaso | I love the people who are objecting to Gordon brown being no1 cos "He's just come in and we had no say about it" they really dont understand the british political system >.< |
| 11:47.10 | Kaso | (that was mainly for Kirkburn|afk i guess) |
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| 11:47.48 | Kirkburn|afk | heh |
| 11:48.11 | Kaso | radio 1 interviews the most retarded people |
| 11:48.23 | Kirkburn|afk | People forget we don't vote for PMs, we vote for parties |
| 11:49.22 | Kaso | oh wtf ^_- man radio1 news fucking sucks |
| 11:49.55 | Kaso | 2 weeks ago they were having a go at harry cos it was a unacceptable to send him to iraq, now theyre having a go cos he's being kept home |
| 11:50.09 | Kirkburn|afk | heh |
| 11:50.46 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/17/breakfast-topic-desert-island-mod/ |
| 11:51.24 | JunkHead-Work | So I was just reading the forums... |
| 11:51.34 | JunkHead-Work | And I found a thread about buying/downloading warcraft 1 and 2. |
| 11:51.56 | JunkHead-Work | This got me curious, and I found the WC2 Battle Chest on Ebay for 14$ plus shipping. |
| 11:54.22 | Kirkburn|afk | Thinking of buying it? |
| 11:55.39 | JunkHead-Work | I did. |
| 11:55.49 | JunkHead-Work | I was gonna reply to the thread about it. |
| 11:56.05 | JunkHead-Work | But when I logged in... correctly... it told me to input my account info AGAIN... |
| 11:56.12 | JunkHead-Work | That's twice it's done that to me. |
| 11:56.18 | JunkHead-Work | So I said screw it. |
| 11:56.41 | JunkHead-Work | Posting on the official forums is always more trouble than it's worth to me. |
| 11:57.08 | JunkHead-Work | My toe hurts... |
| 11:58.49 | Kirkburn|afk | Adys, you have masses of post inc :P |
| 11:59.03 | Kirkburn|afk | JunkHead-Work, excellent purchase :D |
| 11:59.52 | JunkHead-Work | :) |
| 12:00.10 | JunkHead-Work | I already have the Wc3 battlechest, Sc battlechest and diablo battlechests. |
| 12:00.16 | JunkHead-Work | Now all I need is WC1. |
| 12:03.01 | Kirkburn|afk | Heh |
| 12:03.08 | Kirkburn|afk | Well, you can find that online |
| 12:03.17 | Kirkburn|afk | You'd likely need to run it thru an emulator though |
| 12:03.33 | JunkHead-Work | I dunno, I just like legit copies of stuff now. |
| 12:03.38 | Kirkburn|afk | I used Dosbox. Having said that, WC1 was kinda crap. |
| 12:03.55 | JunkHead-Work | I have an asston of *ahem*... totally legitimate software... but I don't care about that anymore. |
| 12:04.09 | Kirkburn|afk | http://www.dosgamesarchive.com/download/game/140 |
| 12:04.24 | JunkHead-Work | I've even started buying retail DVD's to replace my... "totally legit ones" |
| 12:04.25 | Kirkburn|afk | Hmm, that's a demo, nvm |
| 12:04.54 | JunkHead-Work | You don't by chance know anyone who runs two wow accounts at once do you? |
| 12:04.59 | JunkHead-Work | "Dual Box'ing"? |
| 12:05.00 | Kirkburn|afk | Ah, apparently its abandonware |
| 12:05.24 | Kirkburn|afk | I think you can download it legally - this is like the 6th google result for WC1 - http://free-game-downloads.mosw.com/abandonware/pc/strategy_games/games_w_z/warcraft_orcs_humans.html |
| 12:05.41 | JunkHead-Work | Hmm.. I will look into that. |
| 12:05.53 | Kirkburn|afk | It's kinda crap though :P |
| 12:06.02 | Kirkburn|afk | The controls are just so annoying |
| 12:06.21 | Kirkburn|afk | No grouping, for one |
| 12:06.36 | Kirkburn|afk | Nope, don't know any dual-boxers |
| 12:07.00 | JunkHead-Work | Well, I wanted to try it since I have a second account(mostly bank slots) |
| 12:07.10 | JunkHead-Work | But I didn't want to use a seperate keyboard. |
| 12:07.14 | dotted | !updatewwstats |
| 12:07.25 | JunkHead-Work | I wanted to use one of those gaming keypads. |
| 12:07.35 | JunkHead-Work | Since all I need are macro keys. |
| 12:08.04 | JunkHead-Work | Basically just have the second account follow my main account around, healing or something simple. |
| 12:14.19 | JunkHead-Work | Grr, phone keeps ringing. |
| 12:14.50 | JunkHead-Work | Anyway, I got one of these. |
| 12:14.51 | JunkHead-Work | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823146006 |
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| 12:20.46 | JunkHead-Work | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823110001 |
| 12:20.50 | JunkHead-Work | It's a keyboard! |
| 12:20.54 | JunkHead-Work | It's a joystick! |
| 12:20.57 | JunkHead-Work | It's a mouse! |
| 12:21.02 | JunkHead-Work | It's a steering wheel! |
| 12:21.11 | JunkHead-Work | It's everything! |
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| 12:30.47 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/17/wow-goes-mobile-on-the-oqo/ |
| 12:32.57 | JunkHead-Work | I saw that earlier. |
| 12:33.03 | JunkHead-Work | But those things are expensive. |
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| 12:43.15 | JunkHead-Work | Ok guys. Gotta go Seeya |
| 12:43.42 | DuTempete | Morning, Kirk, darling |
| 12:44.12 | DuTempete | apparently I forgot to log out last night =P |
| 12:52.26 | Lorim | Hey look I forgot to. Well I'll say bye now cause I have to get ready to leave for fl |
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| 13:05.45 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/17/2-1-and-beyond-new-arena-ruins-of-lordaeron/ |
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| 13:17.51 | Kaso | you should make it do that automatically more i think |
| 13:18.08 | dotted | it does |
| 13:18.21 | Kaso | *more* :> |
| 13:18.24 | dotted | only use it when i need it updated now |
| 13:18.31 | Kaso | <dotted> !updatewwstats <dotted> !updatewwstats <dotted> !updatewwstats <dotted> !updatewwstats |
| 13:18.33 | dotted | it updates every hour |
| 13:18.39 | dotted | automatically |
| 13:21.47 | dotted | !updatewwstats |
| 13:23.45 | dotted | !bunny |
| 13:25.30 | dotted | !bunny |
| 13:25.32 | [NewsBot] | I'm a bunny, hop hop. |
| 13:25.38 | dotted | doh |
| 13:25.59 | dotted | !bunny |
| 13:26.09 | dotted | ... |
| 13:28.41 | dotted | !bunny |
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| 13:35.49 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/17/gm-says-mailbox-piccolo-concerts-are-right-out/ |
| 13:36.21 | laurly | anyone got a min to help me track down a bug? |
| 13:40.44 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/17/blizzpagewatch-day-5/ |
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| 14:05.44 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/17/around-azeroth-does-this-look-stable-to-you/ |
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| 14:27.05 | equiraptor | Oh, my. Maybe I shouldn't listen to music today. I'm trying to sing along. |
| 14:27.09 | equiraptor | I don't sing very well. |
| 14:35.45 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/17/breakfast-topic-would-you-get-wow-ink/ |
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| 14:52.59 | Bignik | Hey Guys |
| 14:53.06 | equiraptor | Moo. |
| 14:53.07 | Teomyr | hey |
| 14:53.31 | Bignik | Can anyone here suggest mods to run Karazhan on a warlock |
| 14:53.41 | Bignik | Its my first time going and i want to be perpared. |
| 14:53.47 | Bignik | prepared* |
| 14:55.13 | Teomyr | Not specific to a warlock, but KLH Threat Meter is a must in some raid groups |
| 14:55.33 | Bignik | Yeah i have KLH, GEM and CT Raids |
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| 14:57.48 | Bignik | Lol my school blacked wowwiki today |
| 14:57.53 | Bignik | Blocked* |
| 14:58.02 | Teomyr | lol |
| 14:58.08 | dotted | oO |
| 14:58.23 | dotted | Bignik try www.wikia.com |
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| 14:59.20 | Hobinheim | i think it domain redirects |
| 14:59.23 | Hobinheim | so it will still red flag |
| 15:05.23 | Kirkburn|afk | This is so frustrating - I'm 705 rep away from exalted with IF |
| 15:05.34 | Kirkburn|afk | Make that 805 |
| 15:06.01 | Kirkburn|afk | It's a pain finding IF rep quests :/ |
| 15:06.14 | Kirkburn|afk | Doing the others works, but it's sooo sloow |
| 15:06.17 | laurly | anyone got a minute to help me track down a bug? |
| 15:06.27 | Kirkburn|afk | What type? |
| 15:06.32 | laurly | menu |
| 15:06.37 | laurly | http://www.wowwiki.com/Tailoring_Patterns |
| 15:06.54 | laurly | Tailoring: | Ingredients | Proficiencies | Quests | Patterns | Trainers <--- doesnt work right |
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| 15:09.40 | laurly | i cleand up tailoring today but the menu doesnt work like i want it to |
| 15:09.41 | Bignik | wikia.com is blacked lol |
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| 15:12.21 | TecnoBrat | blacked? |
| 15:13.31 | dotted | blocked |
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| 15:46.26 | Slagert | guild retro week this week - MC, Onyxia, 4D and Azuregos done yesterday & today =))) |
| 15:47.26 | TecnoBrat | BWL, Naxx and AQ40 next? |
| 15:48.33 | Slagert | BWL planned for sunday.. not sure we can squeeze in AQ and Naxx |
| 15:48.45 | Slagert | but there's always next week =) |
| 15:53.18 | Adys|afk | Bah slagert |
| 15:53.27 | Adys|afk | was you who ninja'd my azuregos kill |
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| 16:05.47 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/17/wow-moviewatch-grand-theft-shaman/ |
| 16:05.47 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/16/are-we-killing-the-language-or-creating-a-new-one/ |
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| 16:19.05 | Adys | !wwstats |
| 16:19.05 | [NewsBot] | #wowwiki stats: http://www.bxd.dk/irc/wowwiki.html |
| 16:19.17 | Adys | !omgdottedsucks |
| 16:20.00 | Adys | wow, 205 "adys" references |
| 16:20.07 | Adys | i didnt know i was pinged so much |
| 16:20.29 | Adys | haha |
| 16:20.31 | Adys | Adys wasn't very popular, getting kicked 5 times! |
| 16:20.31 | Adys | For example, like this: |
| 16:20.31 | Adys | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:20.40 | Adys | how humiliating |
| 16:20.59 | Kirkburn|afk | lol |
| 16:21.12 | Kirkburn|afk | Whee, I just hit up Searing Gorge :) |
| 16:21.15 | Adys | nicey |
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| 16:21.22 | dotted | [@Adys]: !omgdottedsucks <- :((( |
| 16:21.26 | Kirkburn|afk | = Yet more mithril in the post |
| 16:21.31 | Adys | =) |
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| 16:22.47 | Slagert | kek @ Adys |
| 16:22.53 | Adys | :< |
| 16:23.06 | Slagert | I r in ur azsharas, ninjaíng ur azuregos killz! |
| 16:23.12 | Adys | Adys is either insane or just a fair op, kicking a total of 19 people! |
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| 16:40.09 | Kirkburn|afk | Adys, when you're back, I'd love some help in the Badlands |
| 16:40.16 | Adys | okies |
| 16:40.19 | Kirkburn|afk | There's a chest piece I want to get :) |
| 16:40.19 | Adys | finishing the 150s |
| 16:40.30 | Kirkburn|afk | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=11193 |
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| 16:46.35 | TecnoBrat | That quest has the best mail quest reward |
| 16:46.36 | TecnoBrat | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=11194 |
| 16:47.48 | dotted | ye pretty imba |
| 16:47.51 | Apollozeus | that's no epix |
| 16:47.53 | Apollozeus | D: |
| 16:48.14 | TecnoBrat | spirit is great for both a shaman and a hunter for leveling |
| 16:48.18 | TecnoBrat | what are you talking about! |
| 16:49.05 | Kirkburn|afk | I totally forgot I can wear mail |
| 16:49.19 | TecnoBrat | lol are you leveling a shaman? |
| 16:49.27 | TecnoBrat | or a hunter? |
| 16:49.30 | Kirkburn|afk | Hunter |
| 16:49.34 | TecnoBrat | hehe |
| 16:49.40 | TecnoBrat | my shaman is 46 now :) |
| 16:49.52 | Kirkburn|afk | I'd still go for the leather since it has shedloads of agil |
| 16:49.56 | Hobinheim | TecnoBrat, what spec |
| 16:50.09 | TecnoBrat | enhance for leveling |
| 16:50.12 | Apollozeus | lol |
| 16:50.38 | TecnoBrat | with no +dmg gear at low levels, why would someone try to level as ele :P |
| 16:50.42 | Hobinheim | so that makes you like... a rogue that can't stealt |
| 16:50.50 | Hobinheim | or a fury warrior... |
| 16:50.56 | TecnoBrat | fury warrior, exactly! |
| 16:51.00 | Hobinheim | i was about to say, what's the point of a melee dps class that can't stealth |
| 16:51.39 | TecnoBrat | yea, I have exactly the same gear as a fury warrior, except mail :P |
| 16:51.57 | Hobinheim | instead of plate? |
| 16:52.24 | Hobinheim | if you're a caster shaman, are you wearing caster mail or are you downgrading to cloth? |
| 16:52.28 | TecnoBrat | yes, lol |
| 16:52.53 | TecnoBrat | there is no +dmg gear at < 60 really |
| 16:53.00 | TecnoBrat | so I'm not sure it matters |
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| 16:55.16 | TecnoBrat | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Korgath&n=Avalius |
| 16:55.18 | TecnoBrat | my shaman |
| 16:57.15 | Adys | kaso get on irc plx |
| 17:04.03 | dotted | !armory us Korgath Avalius |
| 17:04.04 | [NewsBot] | Avalius's Armory Profile: http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Korgath&n=Avalius |
| 17:04.08 | dotted | =) |
| 17:04.43 | Fisker- | !armory eu ravencrest fiskerdin |
| 17:04.43 | [NewsBot] | Fiskerdin's Armory Profile: http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ravencrest&n=Fiskerdin |
| 17:04.43 | Fisker- | nice |
| 17:05.07 | dotted | !armory eu trollbane karrigan |
| 17:05.08 | [NewsBot] | Karrigan's Armory Profile: http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Trollbane&n=Karrigan |
| 17:05.17 | Fisker- | lame name |
| 17:05.51 | TecnoBrat | I'm enjoying my shaman, but I'm also an altaholic |
| 17:05.56 | TecnoBrat | just check my user page, lol |
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| 17:06.55 | dotted | Fisker- no starcraft ftw - altho slightly intended misspelt |
| 17:08.35 | Fisker- | i think i bugged the flying guard mounts |
| 17:08.39 | Fisker- | flying mount guards |
| 17:08.52 | dotted | ? |
| 17:14.38 | Fisker- | i kited one to thrallmar |
| 17:18.12 | Apollozeus | lol |
| 17:18.18 | Apollozeus | I kited a fel reaver almost to thrallmar once |
| 17:20.14 | Fisker- | that's pretty easy |
| 17:20.22 | Fisker- | there's a patrol running near it |
| 17:20.34 | Fisker- | did it to get my key completed |
| 17:20.46 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/17/tracking-alts-within-the-guild/ |
| 17:21.45 | Apollozeus | yes |
| 17:21.58 | Apollozeus | only hard part is waiting for the fucking thing to actually COME |
| 17:22.29 | Apollozeus | I've followed him around on my mount, he makes a big fucking circle around thrallmar and honor hold, before coming back |
| 17:22.36 | Apollozeus | takes at least 15 mins |
| 17:23.47 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Plans:_Dark_Iron_Gauntlets&action=history these things are hilarious |
| 17:24.04 | Adys | 12 edits |
| 17:24.10 | Adys | 8 bot edits |
| 17:24.22 | Adys | and kasobot would have done it aswell |
| 17:29.42 | dotted | !updatewwstats |
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| 17:31.15 | Kirkburn|afk | Adys, how soon can you be in the Badlands with me? |
| 17:31.25 | Kirkburn|afk | Wondering whether to go get my 4th mount ^^ |
| 17:31.28 | Adys | gimme one sec :) |
| 17:34.49 | Tekkub | god |
| 17:34.52 | Gryphen | yes? |
| 17:35.02 | Tekkub | the wew podcast is like a bad radio morning show |
| 17:35.09 | Tekkub | make them stop |
| 17:35.56 | Tekkub | make it more like NPR :) |
| 17:35.56 | Tekkub | we're all nerds here |
| 17:35.58 | Apollozeus | 4th mount |
| 17:35.58 | Apollozeus | lol |
| 17:36.06 | Apollozeus | are you that bored kirk? |
| 17:36.21 | Kirkburn|afk | No, I'm just exalted :P |
| 17:36.56 | Apollozeus | lol |
| 17:37.07 | Apollozeus | so you have a horse, saber, ram and elekk now? :P |
| 17:38.26 | Kirkburn|afk | Gonna get the ram in a few mins |
| 17:38.45 | Kirkburn|afk | I'm 2.6% off exalted with Exodar too ^^ |
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| 17:40.12 | Tekkub | god 5 min in and I can't listen to this shit |
| 17:40.28 | Tekkub | it's like teamspeak, minus strategy, with a tad better mics |
| 17:41.23 | Tekkub | on a happy note... |
| 17:41.23 | Tekkub | http://www.winbeta.org/comments.php?shownews=7374 |
| 17:41.25 | Tekkub | :) |
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| 17:42.42 | Apollozeus | meh |
| 17:42.51 | Apollozeus | I'm exalted with darnassus and exodar |
| 17:43.01 | Apollozeus | deep into revered with the other three factions |
| 17:43.13 | Apollozeus | would probably reach that if I were to do all the starting quests |
| 17:43.46 | Kirkburn|afk | Adys, test |
| 17:43.52 | Adys | mmm |
| 17:44.01 | Kirkburn|afk | Hmm, think I've DCes |
| 17:44.03 | Kirkburn|afk | *d |
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| 17:54.54 | Kirkburn | Adys, ARGH |
| 17:54.58 | Kirkburn | Internet just went completely |
| 17:54.59 | Adys | :P |
| 17:55.12 | Kirkburn | Am I dead? ^^ |
| 17:55.23 | Adys | nope |
| 17:58.55 | Apollozeus | hmm |
| 17:58.57 | Apollozeus | question |
| 17:59.35 | Adys | yah |
| 17:59.35 | Apollozeus | when you've done all scryers quests and then turn in so many stuff that you're neutral again with the aldor, can you still do all their quests? |
| 17:59.49 | Adys | yeah |
| 18:00.10 | Apollozeus | even all the SMV ones? |
| 18:00.14 | Apollozeus | which are basically the same thing? |
| 18:00.21 | Tekkub | SWV? |
| 18:00.26 | Apollozeus | shadowmoon valley |
| 18:00.29 | Tekkub | *SMV |
| 18:00.31 | Tekkub | oh |
| 18:00.38 | Tekkub | thought they required friendly |
| 18:00.48 | Apollozeus | yeah ok, but that's not my point |
| 18:01.06 | Apollozeus | can you kill varedis once for the scryers, and then once for the aldors |
| 18:01.12 | Apollozeus | that kinda thing |
| 18:01.16 | Tekkub | you can do the quests if you meet the requirements... |
| 18:01.26 | Tekkub | I'd assume so |
| 18:01.31 | Tekkub | they're different quests |
| 18:01.41 | Apollozeus | kk |
| 18:02.29 | Apollozeus | other question: |
| 18:02.32 | Apollozeus | "1 Reputation point for killing any Twilight Cultist. (Up to Honored.) (only 1/5 for level 70s)" |
| 18:02.56 | Apollozeus | does that mean you'll only get one point after 5 cultists? |
| 18:04.37 | Kirkburn | yup |
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| 18:12.10 | Hobinheim|work | yo Kirkburn dimension totally sassed you up on those patch links |
| 18:12.10 | Tekkub | don't recommend, just do :) |
| 18:12.10 | Hobinheim|work | Tekkub, not everyone likes it hard and fast |
| 18:12.11 | Hobinheim|work | if you can believe that |
| 18:13.08 | Tekkub | is Dparvin a bot? he edits fast |
| 18:14.38 | Hobinheim|work | maybe assisted editing at best |
| 18:14.44 | Hobinheim|work | or just a man who knows his way around the wiki |
| 18:15.44 | Kirkburn | Now I didn't know that ... if you log out midflight, you restart from the exact same position |
| 18:16.05 | Kirkburn | So, ram, brown, grey or white |
| 18:16.12 | Hobinheim|work | ram? what are you a dwarf? |
| 18:16.17 | Hobinheim|work | are you alliance?! |
| 18:16.21 | Tekkub | gay ram |
| 18:16.30 | Hobinheim|work | what tek money said |
| 18:16.31 | Tekkub | and a great gay kodo |
| 18:16.56 | Hobinheim|work | lol for a sec i thought this chat window was work related and i'm like what's my project manager talking about a gay ram for... |
| 18:21.19 | Apollozeus | XD |
| 18:22.12 | Apollozeus | Is there use for fire resistance in TBC endgame? |
| 18:22.13 | Hobinheim|work | Apollozeus, thanks for the cure disease earlier. i had chicken nuggets and white rice for lunch, i think i just made it worse |
| 18:22.30 | Apollozeus | lol |
| 18:30.45 | Hobinheim|work | anyone here use a mac |
| 18:30.49 | Hobinheim|work | for warcraft? |
| 18:31.33 | Kirkburn | Yay, four mounts! |
| 18:33.14 | Apollozeus | useless/10 |
| 18:33.15 | Apollozeus | :P |
| 18:34.47 | [NewsBot] | MMO Champion: Archimonde down by Forte on the PTR. - http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=197.0 |
| 18:35.53 | Apollozeus | :O |
| 18:35.58 | Apollozeus | world first guys |
| 18:36.55 | Bibi`ouF | seriously ? |
| 18:36.56 | Bibi`ouF | I doubt it |
| 18:37.01 | Bibi`ouF | I doubt it A LOT. |
| 18:37.20 | Apollozeus | haha |
| 18:37.23 | Apollozeus | there you go already |
| 18:37.36 | Hobinheim|work | archimonde... who's that? |
| 18:37.40 | Apollozeus | "Forte killed Archimonde on the PTR a few minutes ago, it wasn't a "fair" kill and you shouldn't start thinking "LOL OMG EASY"" |
| 18:37.45 | Hobinheim|work | oh ptr |
| 18:38.04 | Hobinheim|work | wtf is up with that loot window? |
| 18:38.09 | Tekkub | Archie Mode? |
| 18:38.39 | Hobinheim|work | oh archie.... ^_^; |
| 18:39.12 | Hobinheim|work | it's funny how purple loot doesn't look different, at all. it just has bigger numbers |
| 18:39.15 | *** join/#wowwiki Adys2010 (n=Miranda@APoitiers-256-1-69-126.w90-16.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 18:39.33 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+o Adys] by ChanServ |
| 18:40.04 | Tekkub | *growl* why does DE only autoloot the first time |
| 18:40.29 | Adys | How you mean? |
| 18:40.37 | Adys | I never understood how autoloot worked with disenchanting |
| 18:40.41 | Tekkub | it only autollots the first time |
| 18:40.50 | Tekkub | then you have to manually loot |
| 18:41.06 | Adys | hm for me it autoloots "sometimes" |
| 18:41.28 | Tekkub | for me it's very consistantly only the first time you DE |
| 18:41.41 | Adys | what do you mean by "first time" :P |
| 18:41.49 | Adys | first time in a session? |
| 18:41.53 | Tekkub | I'm DEing a bunch of shit |
| 18:42.07 | Tekkub | Click DE, Click item, cast, autoloot |
| 18:42.12 | Tekkub | Click DE, Click item, cast... |
| 18:42.18 | Tekkub | manual loot |
| 18:42.20 | Tekkub | Click DE, Click item, cast... |
| 18:43.30 | *** join/#wowwiki Adys (n=Miranda@APoitiers-256-1-69-126.w90-16.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 18:43.30 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+o Adys] by ChanServ |
| 18:43.31 | Hobinheim|work | but when does it re-cycle |
| 18:43.40 | Hobinheim|work | when do you get another first-time |
| 18:43.48 | Tekkub | yes |
| 18:43.49 | Hobinheim|work | and yes, i've also had inconsistent experience with de-looting |
| 18:43.55 | Tekkub | every time, the first time |
| 18:43.58 | Hobinheim|work | when dude, not es or no |
| 18:44.04 | Hobinheim|work | 40% of the time, it works, every time |
| 18:44.34 | Tekkub | I don't know, I hit the AH/mailbox and do again it works |
| 18:45.01 | Tekkub | but many in sequence with no other action it never does beyond the first |
| 18:55.49 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/17/awesome-wow-art-by-pulyx/ |
| 18:56.31 | Kirkburn | http://mfrost.typepad.com/cute_overload/2007/05/woooooooooo.html |
| 19:01.32 | Kirkburn | Oh wtf ... I just got a gold selling EMAIL |
| 19:02.44 | Tekkub | you too? |
| 19:02.51 | Tekkub | think they farmed addon sites |
| 19:04.19 | Apollozeus | rofl |
| 19:05.05 | Apollozeus | if spam is punishable by law |
| 19:05.14 | Apollozeus | then this should be as well |
| 19:05.36 | Apollozeus | finally some legal stuff to bite these assholes with |
| 19:06.43 | Tekkub | personally I think we should just replace the shitty protocol |
| 19:06.47 | Tekkub | it's how old? |
| 19:10.36 | Apollozeus | what protocol are you referring to? |
| 19:11.23 | Tekkub | SMTP |
| 19:11.45 | dotted | idd |
| 19:12.56 | MatthewS | I agree, TCP is too old. Let's ditch it for something better. |
| 19:15.47 | [NewsBot] | MMO Champion: Hyjal loots preview : Save the druid leader, save the world. - http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=198.0 |
| 19:15.47 | Hobinheim|work | you can't just rip things out |
| 19:15.47 | Hobinheim|work | you have to ninja them in |
| 19:15.47 | Hobinheim|work | or make them SUBSTANTIALLY better |
| 19:15.47 | Hobinheim|work | "just better" isn't enough |
| 19:15.47 | Hobinheim|work | esp. with the internet |
| 19:15.54 | Hobinheim|work | it's a mish mash of "good enough" which is partly it's strength |
| 19:16.20 | Hobinheim|work | hetero genious "good enough" parts aren't susceptible to like... the same attacks. or they're not as fragile |
| 19:16.31 | Hobinheim|work | except that thing where if seven key servers on the net died the enter world would be screwed |
| 19:16.37 | Hobinheim|work | besides that part... |
| 19:18.40 | foxlit | Meh, DNS root servers aren't that critical, and they aren't actually seven :) |
| 19:18.55 | Tekkub | yea 6 of em already crashed |
| 19:19.07 | Tekkub | we've been on one for years now |
| 19:19.28 | Slagert | WTS once-per-minte posting limit on blizz forums =/ |
| 19:19.58 | Tekkub | UI forum? |
| 19:20.16 | Slagert | I'm maintaining TBC craft list on realm forums |
| 19:20.34 | Tekkub | bah, wikis are better for that shit |
| 19:20.41 | Slagert | so I get 5-6 updates in a batch.. but I have to wait a minute between each update |
| 19:20.44 | Slagert | I agree |
| 19:21.06 | Tekkub | we still need to convince Iriel to move the "upcoming changes" lists to the wiki |
| 19:21.11 | Tekkub | and LINK them from the forum |
| 19:21.33 | Slagert | anyways, Adys, your new noob enchant is updated on the list :P |
| 19:23.44 | Kirkburn | Mmm, I'd like a staff with +436 healing |
| 19:23.51 | Kirkburn | Adys quit :( |
| 19:24.05 | Kirkburn | Quit the channel that it |
| 19:24.08 | Kirkburn | *is |
| 19:24.13 | zeeg | Bibi`ouF: *poke* |
| 19:24.24 | Bibi`ouF | poke yourself. |
| 19:25.33 | Kirkburn | Whoever said WoW was a game of shoulders?! http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2007/may/hyjal_loots/plate_stained.jpg |
| 19:25.57 | Hobinheim|work | is that supposed to be some weird english pun? |
| 19:26.04 | Hobinheim|work | or just a link to a terrible picture? |
| 19:26.08 | Kirkburn | "Uh, yeah, could I mount an elekk on each shoulder plz" |
| 19:26.26 | Kirkburn | No, it's not a pun ... it's sarcasm |
| 19:27.28 | Slagert | ooh ooh! "World of Shouldercraft" *ka-tsschh* |
| 19:27.30 | Kirkburn | As in, WoW's main armor progression is via larger and LARGER AND LARGER shoulders |
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| 19:27.55 | *** join/#wowwiki Adys (n=Miranda@APoitiers-256-1-69-126.w90-16.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 19:27.56 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+o Adys] by ChanServ |
| 19:28.01 | Slagert | wb Adys ;) |
| 19:28.05 | Slagert | ingame poking ftw! |
| 19:28.06 | Adys | tah |
| 19:28.18 | Slagert | and welcome little bear :) |
| 19:28.19 | Adys | In ur game poking your playerz |
| 19:28.25 | Hobinheim|work | Slagert, not sure if i should voice you or kick you out for that one |
| 19:28.41 | *** mode/#wowwiki [-o Hobinheim|work] by Adys |
| 19:28.42 | Hobinheim|work | even though it wasn't a pun |
| 19:28.45 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+v Hobinheim|work] by Adys |
| 19:28.49 | *** kick/#wowwiki [Hobinheim|work!n=Miranda@APoitiers-256-1-69-126.w90-16.abo.wanadoo.fr] by Adys (Adys) |
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| 19:28.54 | Hobinheim|work | hooo |
| 19:28.59 | Adys | omg pun |
| 19:29.29 | Hobinheim|work | properly set up trillian to the rescue |
| 19:29.29 | *** kick/#wowwiki [Adys!n=Kirkburn@82-32-40-219.cable.ubr06.azte.blueyonder.co.uk] by Kirkburn (omg kick) |
| 19:29.29 | *** join/#wowwiki Adys (n=Miranda@APoitiers-256-1-69-126.w90-16.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 19:29.29 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+o Adys] by ChanServ |
| 19:29.29 | Fisker- | MAN |
| 19:29.29 | Slagert | good, read Gödel, Escher, Bach by Douglas Hofstaedter then -- you'll love it Hobinheim|work |
| 19:29.29 | Fisker- | 20% |
| 19:29.37 | Fisker- | stupid magtheridon |
| 19:30.13 | Adys | fuck sake, online/offline spam again |
| 19:30.13 | Adys | brb |
| 19:31.15 | *** join/#wowwiki Adys (n=Miranda@APoitiers-256-1-69-126.w90-16.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 19:31.15 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+o Adys] by ChanServ |
| 19:31.25 | Adys | better |
| 19:32.46 | Adys | ~wwlogs |
| 19:32.51 | infobot | You are probably looking for http://ibot.rikers.org/%23wowwiki/ |
| 19:32.51 | Adys | wake up retarded bot |
| 19:35.18 | Hobinheim|work | ~naruto |
| 19:35.20 | infobot | ~Nani korettebayo?! ^_^; |
| 19:35.20 | Hobinheim|work | ~bleach |
| 19:35.29 | infobot | Shinigami's Cup! Golden! |
| 19:38.00 | Apollozeus | !armory eu stormrage amberrock |
| 19:38.00 | [NewsBot] | Amberrock's Armory Profile: http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Stormrage&n=Amberrock |
| 19:45.19 | *** part/#wowwiki Hobinheim|work (n=Hobinhei@c-69-142-120-32.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 19:45.45 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/17/are-we-killing-the-language-or-creating-a-new-one/ |
| 19:47.07 | Apollozeus | ehm |
| 19:47.08 | Devilkoul | As I've said before, we have a rule in our guild prohibiting leet speak and excessive abbreviation in guild chat. |
| 19:47.10 | Devilkoul | um |
| 19:47.13 | Apollozeus | that's an old article |
| 19:47.18 | Devilkoul | a retarded one as well |
| 19:47.19 | Apollozeus | posted couple of hours ago |
| 19:48.41 | Kirkburn | !armory eu stormrage chekov |
| 19:48.41 | [NewsBot] | Chekov's Armory Profile: http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Stormrage&n=Chekov |
| 19:49.43 | Devilkoul | imo we should swap back in blue tracker and get rid of wowinsider for teh newsbot spam |
| 19:49.45 | Kirkburn | ^ check out my rep :P |
| 19:49.59 | Kirkburn | They completely different things! |
| 19:50.07 | Kirkburn | *they're |
| 19:50.07 | Devilkoul | but one is cooler than the other |
| 19:50.25 | Devilkoul | wow insider = how much crap can we use as filler per day |
| 19:50.37 | Devilkoul | imo |
| 19:50.50 | Kirkburn | :P |
| 19:51.32 | Devilkoul | :O sw exalted as well |
| 19:51.34 | Devilkoul | nice |
| 19:51.45 | Devilkoul | im curious what's motivating your rep grinds? :/ |
| 19:52.41 | Adys | wowinsider is nice |
| 19:52.55 | Adys | but yes we should swap back to bluetracker |
| 19:53.54 | Adys | and yeah http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/17/are-we-killing-the-language-or-creating-a-new-one/ is a bunch of crap |
| 19:53.56 | Gryphen | wowinsider sux |
| 19:54.49 | Adys | but the comments are even more of a bunch of crap |
| 19:57.45 | Apollozeus | wowinsider doesn't suck o.O |
| 19:58.00 | Apollozeus | only occasionally there are stupid articles |
| 19:58.16 | Apollozeus | this one wasn't even that bad.. |
| 19:58.23 | sancus | it doesn't suck? |
| 19:58.36 | sancus | I have yet to see a single good article spammed in this channel by newsbot with wowinsider in front of it |
| 19:58.45 | Kirkburn | It you don't like the articles, don't read them |
| 19:58.52 | Devilkoul | hah |
| 19:58.57 | sancus | They're mostly short little paragraphs of drivel written by obvious incompetents. |
| 19:59.04 | Gryphen | nice Kirkburn |
| 19:59.24 | Apollozeus | I beg to differ |
| 19:59.30 | sancus | Kirkburn: If you do like the articles, I question your sanity. |
| 19:59.30 | foxlit | But I must read articles to determine whether or not I like them! |
| 19:59.39 | Kirkburn | sancus, depends on the article |
| 19:59.47 | sancus | Point me to a good one, then, please. |
| 19:59.49 | sancus | Because I haven't seen one. |
| 19:59.54 | Devilkoul | you called blue tracker spam, but wow insider is interesting? |
| 20:00.20 | winkiller | lol |
| 20:00.25 | sancus | Even worse than them being bad |
| 20:00.28 | winkiller | wowinsider is nice for killin time |
| 20:00.31 | winkiller | like 5min/article |
| 20:00.32 | sancus | they're not even fucking original |
| 20:00.41 | Devilkoul | blue tracker is better for killin time, imo |
| 20:00.44 | sancus | far more competent and insightful people have commented on the dialects of online communication |
| 20:02.46 | Gryphen | this is a hot one, http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/17/around-azeroth-does-this-look-stable-to-you/ |
| 20:02.50 | Gryphen | best article for sure |
| 20:03.22 | sancus | lol |
| 20:03.24 | foxlit | Personal favorite: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/16/upcoming-blizzard-announcement-to-be-a-new-starcraft/ |
| 20:03.34 | Devilkoul | ROFL |
| 20:03.34 | foxlit | I like the link more than I write the text. |
| 20:03.39 | foxlit | s/write/like/ |
| 20:03.42 | equiraptor | Some of them are cute. |
| 20:03.53 | equiraptor | Like the does-this-look-stable. It's cute. |
| 20:04.24 | equiraptor | A "good article"? no. A good blog entry? Sure. |
| 20:04.32 | foxlit | Hey, that mushroom should have a 0.001% chance of falling through when someone walks on it |
| 20:04.34 | Devilkoul | something to spam the channel with? no. |
| 20:04.36 | sancus | oh, yeah |
| 20:04.39 | sancus | some of them are cute |
| 20:04.51 | sancus | Some of them are just "get back in your box. thanks." |
| 20:04.52 | foxlit | Channel's dead, long live the channel |
| 20:05.01 | equiraptor | Yeah, I don't think I've read anything on there worth spamming the channel with. |
| 20:05.21 | Gryphen | not to mention the eyesore of a site design |
| 20:05.38 | sancus | I haven't seen a ghalf-assed guide on how to run a karazhan guild this week. |
| 20:05.42 | sancus | They're slacking. |
| 20:05.47 | equiraptor | I read it through google reader. ;) |
| 20:06.36 | TecnoBrat | Gryphen, not to mention the overly ad filled design |
| 20:07.29 | *** join/#wowwiki dok3Dal (n=dok@AStrasbourg-251-1-92-62.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 20:07.34 | TecnoBrat | I'm in the advertising industry, thats too many ads. Each of their advertisers will be pissed due to poor performance. 3 ads per page max, and put them in a spot that gives them exposure. |
| 20:07.53 | Apollozeus | adblock ftw |
| 20:08.08 | Apollozeus | ^_^ |
| 20:08.28 | Gryphen | not a fan of adblock |
| 20:08.34 | sancus | haha |
| 20:08.40 | sancus | if I adblocked that page it would look like swiss cheese |
| 20:08.51 | TecnoBrat | I don't mind ad blocking, as long as it blocks the call to the adserver. |
| 20:09.07 | TecnoBrat | it it lets the adserver serve the ad, and then hides it, thats dumb. |
| 20:09.42 | Apollozeus | I couldn't care less |
| 20:09.44 | TecnoBrat | There is 6 ads on that page, and none of them are well placed. |
| 20:09.47 | Apollozeus | as long as it doesn't show |
| 20:10.03 | Kirkburn | Huh, I have an ad blocker, I only see one gap |
| 20:10.09 | ggilbert | The thing that gets me is that it's the sites that go crazy on the ads that usually drive me to turn adblock on. |
| 20:10.45 | TecnoBrat | the ad placements on curse are pretty good, the ones on wowhead are also good. |
| 20:11.10 | equiraptor | TecnoBrat, are you willing to look at a site for me and tell me what you think of the ads? |
| 20:11.19 | ggilbert | noninvasive and reasonably well targeted generally don't bug me. |
| 20:11.24 | TecnoBrat | equiraptor, haha sure |
| 20:11.30 | equiraptor | http://flightaware.com |
| 20:11.52 | equiraptor | You might have to view an airport or a flight to find the ads. |
| 20:12.32 | Kirkburn | Bluetracker and WoWI server different functions. The problem with all blue trackers is the link spam and that it includes stuff like moderated threads |
| 20:12.49 | Kirkburn | But in any case, as I said earlier - don't like it? Don't read it. |
| 20:12.59 | dotted | ads???????????????????????????????* |
| 20:13.00 | Gryphen | doesnt matter to me, i adblock newsbot :) |
| 20:13.05 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 20:13.12 | Devilkoul | rofl |
| 20:13.21 | equiraptor | haha |
| 20:14.27 | [NewsBot] | in the event Gryphen have blocked me, i could essentially sass his sorry ass off :D:D |
| 20:14.38 | ggilbert | equiraptor: Just one thought, but your adds are unobtrusive to the point that I was completely missing them |
| 20:14.52 | TecnoBrat | to be honest, the ads at the bottom of the page will do you no good :) |
| 20:15.14 | *** join/#wowwiki Skosiris (n=sdgdsg@modemcable244.155-201-24.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 20:15.14 | equiraptor | Ummmm... They've been getting clicks. |
| 20:15.20 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+v Skosiris] by ChanServ |
| 20:15.46 | Adys | hey skosiris |
| 20:16.06 | TecnoBrat | equiraptor, I'm looking at this page: http://flightaware.com/live/airport/KVNY |
| 20:16.31 | Kirkburn | Haha - the Joystiq fanboy comment generator - http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/KyleOrl/3707 |
| 20:17.16 | equiraptor | I've got google's ads blocked, so I can't see them anyway. ;) |
| 20:17.16 | TecnoBrat | the ad in the related links box will probably not get much action |
| 20:17.21 | TecnoBrat | haha |
| 20:17.50 | TecnoBrat | I like the leaderboard 1/2 way down the page though. |
| 20:17.56 | equiraptor | ANd I can't seem to find the string I used to block it in my list, so I can't even unblock it. |
| 20:18.04 | equiraptor | Oh, there. Maybe that one's it. |
| 20:18.06 | TecnoBrat | I would estimate that one makes you the most money :P |
| 20:18.09 | ggilbert | oh wow. I never realized that epiphany's adblock extension blocks google also |
| 20:18.39 | equiraptor | Uhh... That must not have been it. I still don't see ads. *sigh* |
| 20:19.06 | TecnoBrat | haha |
| 20:19.20 | equiraptor | Oh, maybe I don't get the ads. I have... uh... a special account. |
| 20:20.46 | equiraptor | Oooh, IE gave me a done but with errors. I know the proxy at work blocks things. Maybe *it's* blocking the ads. |
| 20:21.26 | Kirkburn | I link this with reservations - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATCfyo9iho8 |
| 20:22.08 | Gryphen | lol |
| 20:23.21 | TecnoBrat | so anyone have any new conspiracy theories about the "new product on May 19" |
| 20:25.15 | Skosiris | Diablo 3 or StarCraft 2 |
| 20:25.46 | TecnoBrat | and your guess is? |
| 20:25.48 | Skosiris | as I said a few days ago, Blizzard isn't even remotely thinking of a new MMO |
| 20:25.56 | Skosiris | so it can't be "WoS" |
| 20:26.02 | TecnoBrat | why would they? |
| 20:26.10 | TecnoBrat | they have a long time left with wow yet, heh |
| 20:26.15 | Devilkoul | starcraft 2 makes more business sense, imo |
| 20:26.22 | TecnoBrat | that would be a waste of resources, imo |
| 20:26.30 | Devilkoul | diablo mmo will be saftey net when wow dies |
| 20:26.32 | ggilbert | I'm guessing that it's going to be a western RPG designed around rival pharmacies. |
| 20:26.41 | ggilbert | err RTS |
| 20:26.43 | ggilbert | not rpg |
| 20:26.55 | Skosiris | Tecno, I agree with Devilkoul |
| 20:27.02 | Skosiris | what he said makes sense |
| 20:27.12 | Devilkoul | they can get back all the blizz fans that dislike wow with sc2 |
| 20:27.30 | Devilkoul | diablow mmo wont make as much money atm |
| 20:27.35 | Devilkoul | they will wait |
| 20:27.38 | Adys | Skosiris, blizzard is thinking about a new mmo |
| 20:27.57 | Bibi`ouF | No they're not :/ |
| 20:27.58 | TecnoBrat | while I think its gonna be SC2, I want it to be diablo 3 |
| 20:28.03 | Bibi`ouF | Adys fails. |
| 20:28.04 | Adys | I cant cite the source atm but I know they have been tazlking about it |
| 20:28.26 | Devilkoul | they are hiring peeps atm for a next gen mmo |
| 20:28.27 | Kirkburn | It's amazing that we're only two days away and there's been no hint of what it'll be |
| 20:28.28 | Adys | and agreed with tecni |
| 20:28.37 | Adys | tecno/ |
| 20:29.24 | ggilbert | I think they're likely working on a new MMO, but I don't think that's the project being announced tomorrow. |
| 20:29.55 | Devilkoul | could be very true |
| 20:30.13 | TecnoBrat | the thing is that the people who play diablo 3 will also play wow .. but doesnt really go for SC2 .. SC2 is a different market |
| 20:30.20 | Kirkburn | It would be far too early to be talking about a second MMO - esp with their stated aim of one expansion every year |
| 20:30.22 | TecnoBrat | and its smarter for blizzard to do SC2 |
| 20:30.47 | Fisker- | haha Kirkburn |
| 20:30.51 | Fisker- | we killed magtheridon |
| 20:31.07 | Kirkburn | I don't think Blizz is large enough to cope with it |
| 20:31.18 | ggilbert | I'd expect a warcraft replacement up to be more of a late 2009-early 2010 deal. |
| 20:31.45 | Kirkburn | So yeah, I also want D3, but I reckon it'll be SC2 |
| 20:31.58 | Adys | yeah |
| 20:32.32 | Adys | who cares |
| 20:32.38 | Adys | the black temple preview pwns |
| 20:36.19 | Tekkub | I'm still holding out for LV2 |
| 20:36.35 | Tekkub | I never liked SC/WC/D |
| 20:36.57 | Skosiris | lol |
| 20:36.59 | Tekkub | I sucked at SC/WC type games, and never got interested in Diablo |
| 20:38.03 | Teomyr | diablo-type games are good for feeding your "OMG, ITEMZ" addiction |
| 20:38.15 | Tekkub | I don't have that problem |
| 20:38.34 | ggilbert | Lost Vikings was awesome, but I suspect that they'll fall back on the RTS bread and butter. |
| 20:39.24 | Kirkburn | What image do you think Blizz will choose to show off WoW? |
| 20:39.43 | ggilbert | Though I'd really like to see them do more with the ideas they had in the WC3 bonus campaign. |
| 20:40.08 | Kirkburn | A pseudo-RPG RTS |
| 20:40.10 | Kirkburn | ? |
| 20:40.16 | ggilbert | Yeah |
| 20:40.28 | Skosiris | isn't Lost Vikings some 'lil "arcade-type" game? |
| 20:40.31 | Teomyr | i LOVED that campaign! |
| 20:40.37 | Teomyr | the one with rexxar |
| 20:40.42 | Tekkub | wow, it seems my ED is a problem |
| 20:40.45 | Teomyr | wtb more of them |
| 20:40.48 | Tekkub | I'm glad I got that spam |
| 20:41.01 | Skosiris | Blizzard's games are always very addicting, I fail to see how LV2 would be addicting |
| 20:41.04 | Tekkub | I would have never known |
| 20:41.37 | TecnoBrat | The only trademark that blizzard has renewed / changed lately is "Blackthorne" |
| 20:41.55 | Tekkub | okey, bedtime |
| 20:42.08 | Kirkburn | Night Tek |
| 20:42.25 | Teomyr | night |
| 20:42.59 | ggilbert | TecnoBrat: How recently? They did a port of it to gba a few years back. |
| 20:43.10 | TecnoBrat | Published for Opposition April 17, 2007 |
| 20:46.52 | ggilbert | as much fun as trying to come up with interesting possibilities, the fact that they're doing the release in South Korea makes me lean strongly towards a Starcraft RTS. They'd be skinned alive before they reached the doors if it wasn't :) |
| 20:47.36 | TecnoBrat | haha yea .. I'm just pulling random crap out of my butt, just to talk about it :) |
| 20:47.44 | TecnoBrat | I too believe its gonna be SC2 :) |
| 20:47.45 | ggilbert | hehe |
| 20:48.34 | ggilbert | Though with the last Blackthorne being a gba release, maybe they plan to do another portable follow up. |
| 20:49.17 | TecnoBrat | thats not going to be the big press release though, lol |
| 20:49.23 | ggilbert | yeah |
| 20:49.32 | TecnoBrat | and |Pixel| told me "you are going to love it" |
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| 20:50.50 | ggilbert | TecnoBrat: I just have this mental dialog going of the blizzard guys doing the Deep Thought scene from the BBC Hitchhiker's guide production.ide |
| 20:51.00 | ggilbert | "We're going to be lynched." |
| 20:52.24 | TecnoBrat | lol |
| 20:55.38 | Devilkoul | LF link to site about brothes swapping body parts with eachother |
| 20:55.40 | Devilkoul | go go |
| 20:55.45 | Devilkoul | i los tit |
| 20:55.46 | Devilkoul | :/ |
| 20:56.48 | TecnoBrat | oh, I forgot about time difference |
| 20:57.02 | TecnoBrat | 10pm PST we will see the annoucement :) |
| 21:00.51 | ggilbert | 10PM tomorrow? |
| 21:01.50 | foxlit | What's that in something reasonable like UTC? |
| 21:02.57 | foxlit | Pacific standard time is -8ish? |
| 21:03.18 | ggilbert | -7 atm |
| 21:03.43 | foxlit | Summertime? |
| 21:03.48 | ggilbert | aye |
| 21:04.01 | ggilbert | let's see Seoul is UTC + 9 |
| 21:05.52 | ggilbert | This is why I hate timezones. :) |
| 21:05.55 | TecnoBrat | yes, 10 pm tomorrow :) |
| 21:06.20 | foxlit | 10pm whose time? :P |
| 21:06.28 | dotted | dont you mean gmt+9? |
| 21:06.41 | dotted | or dont they use dst over there? |
| 21:06.49 | ggilbert | Is the announcement being done on the 19th in Seoul? Or is it the 20th in Seoul and 19th int he US? |
| 21:07.01 | ggilbert | dotted: From what I saw they don't have DST this year |
| 21:07.08 | dotted | ok |
| 21:07.28 | dotted | hmm |
| 21:07.28 | ggilbert | but I might be wrong. I didn't spend a lot of time checking out the source since an hour difference won't kill me. |
| 21:07.30 | dotted | You can find the schedule of this event below. All times are Seoul Time (GMT +9). May 19th |
| 21:07.30 | dotted | 11:00 ~ 12:20 : Warcraft 3 Season 5 Consolation Final ( Shy vs. Moon) 14:00 ~ 16:00 : Opening Ceremony / Announcement of the New Products 16:20 ~ 21:40 : Starcraft Invitational Last 8 / Warcraft 3 Invitational Last 8 |
| 21:08.16 | dotted | so 05:00-07:00 GMT according to that |
| 21:08.19 | Kirkburn | A five hours opening ceremony?! |
| 21:08.23 | TecnoBrat | 16:20 = 10:20 pm PDT / 1:20 am EDT |
| 21:08.25 | Gryphen | dst is 4 weeks longer this year |
| 21:08.36 | Kirkburn | Oh wait, nvm :P |
| 21:08.41 | Kirkburn | 2 hours opening ceremony |
| 21:09.02 | TecnoBrat | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=104561577&sid=1 |
| 21:09.06 | TecnoBrat | just read that post :P |
| 21:09.44 | Devilkoul | http://www.starcraft2.com I think that clears up anything |
| 21:09.46 | Devilkoul | :D |
| 21:10.23 | foxlit | Does the fact that it was registered ages ago change anything in your mind? |
| 21:10.26 | Gryphen | Created: 1999-09-24 |
| 21:10.29 | Devilkoul | hehe |
| 21:10.29 | Devilkoul | yea |
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| 21:10.34 | Devilkoul | just was looking that up |
| 21:11.23 | TecnoBrat | Last Updated on: 28-Sep-05 |
| 21:12.14 | Teomyr | omg, blizzard needs to do something about their forums |
| 21:12.28 | Teomyr | Result: 909 errors / 6 warnings |
| 21:13.27 | TecnoBrat | ? |
| 21:13.36 | Teomyr | html check |
| 21:13.44 | TecnoBrat | haha |
| 21:14.35 | ggilbert | TecnoBrat: Since starcraft2.com was created in September 1999, I'd imagine the September 2005 update was a renewal. |
| 21:15.55 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/rss.xml |
| 21:16.13 | zeeg | dotted's bot is a newbie :P |
| 21:16.56 | TecnoBrat | Thanks for the XML feed! |
| 21:17.19 | Devilkoul | heh |
| 21:17.57 | Adys | lol |
| 21:18.36 | Adys | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32527 |
| 21:18.57 | Adys | itembalance wru |
| 21:19.03 | foxlit | Hm, stuff like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yG72jXGYmr4 makes me snicker since I've done that quest as a druid. |
| 21:20.04 | foxlit | And those spawned patrols simply ignore the chicken and don't detect you if you're stealthed. |
| 21:20.17 | dotted | fuck you zeeg :D |
| 21:21.05 | Teomyr | items i find kinda unfair: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28658 |
| 21:21.37 | foxlit | Why |
| 21:21.39 | foxlit | ? :) |
| 21:21.40 | Teomyr | where's our "Increases damage done by shadow spells and effects by up to 500 while in Shadowform"-items? |
| 21:21.47 | Fisker- | when was the blizzard announcement in GMT? |
| 21:21.54 | Gryphen | -.- |
| 21:21.55 | foxlit | 647 AP is hardly 500 damage. |
| 21:22.06 | sancus | Teomyr: why would you get that? :p |
| 21:22.19 | sancus | they're not unfair |
| 21:22.25 | Gryphen | 31.5 hours from now |
| 21:22.27 | sancus | They're to fix druids hah |
| 21:22.45 | sancus | because druids don't get any benefit from the dps of the actual weapon in those forms |
| 21:22.56 | foxlit | So? :) |
| 21:22.57 | Teomyr | do casters? |
| 21:23.03 | sancus | Casters have a different system |
| 21:23.08 | foxlit | Point is, druids can do melee dps |
| 21:23.10 | sancus | caster weapons remove dps from the weapon and add +dmg to it in place of it |
| 21:23.17 | sancus | that's why all caster weapons have very low melee dps |
| 21:23.18 | foxlit | They just need special + fap weapons |
| 21:23.30 | sancus | what are you talking about foxlit |
| 21:23.42 | sancus | I'm explaining why those items aren't unfair and are just balanced heh |
| 21:23.54 | foxlit | <sancus> They're to fix druids hah |
| 21:23.56 | foxlit | Not really :) |
| 21:23.59 | sancus | Yes they are |
| 21:24.00 | foxlit | They're already fixed. |
| 21:24.04 | sancus | if druids didn't have those weapons |
| 21:24.06 | TecnoBrat | DUDE |
| 21:24.08 | sancus | they would be completely worthless in melee |
| 21:24.08 | TecnoBrat | 1 thing .. |
| 21:24.16 | TecnoBrat | druids dont use weapon damage at all |
| 21:24.19 | TecnoBrat | and are melee |
| 21:24.22 | sancus | That's what I just said, Tecno. |
| 21:24.30 | foxlit | I don't think anyone disagrees. |
| 21:24.39 | sancus | everyone gets the same benefit from a weapon |
| 21:25.00 | sancus | normal melee get it from the dps, druids get it from those special stats, and casters get it from +dmg that wouldn't be there if the weapon didn't have melee dps removed from it |
| 21:25.02 | Skosiris | ~seen Sky2042 |
| 21:25.44 | infobot | sky2042 <n=rawsonat@c-71-56-134-63.hsd1.or.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowwiki, 1d 14h 53m 47s ago, saying: 'depends on the encounter'. |
| 21:26.45 | foxlit | Damn, I need to sleep |
| 21:26.55 | foxlit | Read "They're to fix druids hah" as "They need to fix druids hah" |
| 21:27.13 | sancus | oh |
| 21:27.14 | sancus | hahahaha |
| 21:27.41 | foxlit | And as someone playing a druid, I oppose most kinds of fixing being proposed :P |
| 21:27.46 | dotted | Kirkburn zeeg is a thief *evil grin* |
| 21:27.50 | sancus | druids are fine now |
| 21:27.59 | sancus | before those weapons existed, they weren't fine, they were absolutely useless heh |
| 21:28.04 | foxlit | Actually looking forward to some of the 2.1 changes |
| 21:28.05 | sancus | (in melee) |
| 21:28.15 | sancus | that was a long time ago though |
| 21:28.48 | TecnoBrat | Wow... |
| 21:28.49 | TecnoBrat | http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/forums.worldofwarcraft.com/104541624.htm?posts=1 |
| 21:28.56 | TecnoBrat | "So you're only listening to the top arena team warriors? Figures... " |
| 21:29.02 | TecnoBrat | "Versus... listening to ineffective warriors when it comes to making a decision regarding the use of a pvp item during pvp? " |
| 21:29.10 | TecnoBrat | I think he just called that guy a noob |
| 21:29.31 | TecnoBrat | why would I listen to you .. you suck at pvp, lawl |
| 21:30.05 | foxlit | Awesomeness that is Kalgan! |
| 21:30.10 | sancus | bog |
| 21:30.16 | sancus | of course polymorph removal is stronger |
| 21:30.17 | sancus | fucking tards |
| 21:30.34 | ggilbert | TecnoBrat: I love that |
| 21:30.35 | foxlit | What's the change, anyway? |
| 21:30.46 | foxlit | -slow +poly? |
| 21:30.48 | sancus | heh with a warrior that can break polymorph |
| 21:31.04 | sancus | that fucks up a lot of things :/ |
| 21:31.15 | TecnoBrat | foxlit, yes |
| 21:31.33 | foxlit | Mm, in a limited way, yes. |
| 21:31.33 | sancus | you can't back off from them and start a nuke chain for one |
| 21:31.42 | zeeg | hrm i cant login to wow |
| 21:31.44 | sancus | because they'll just break it and intercept you |
| 21:31.47 | foxlit | Back way off |
| 21:31.51 | foxlit | Nuke range > intercept range |
| 21:31.56 | sancus | not good enough |
| 21:32.03 | foxlit | Not fast enough, perhaps. |
| 21:32.05 | sancus | maybe if you're frost |
| 21:32.41 | TecnoBrat | they also fixed the intercept bug |
| 21:32.41 | foxlit | Unless you're scorching, fire has greater range :) |
| 21:32.41 | sancus | right but it doesn't snare |
| 21:32.41 | sancus | which means you can't kite |
| 21:32.49 | sancus | you get maybe two fireballs off |
| 21:32.51 | TecnoBrat | so warriors wont get screwed when getting kited |
| 21:32.51 | sancus | and then they're on top of you |
| 21:32.58 | sancus | although really |
| 21:33.07 | sancus | they'll break it as soon as they see you start casting and be on top of you before the second one goes off probably |
| 21:33.15 | TecnoBrat | well .. kiting warriors was broken before too .. frost mages are going to have a harder time with warriors as a whole |
| 21:33.31 | sancus | kiting warriors wasn't broken and still isn't |
| 21:33.31 | foxlit | I don't really see it as that big a deal. |
| 21:33.36 | sancus | warriors aren't supposed to be able to kill frost mages, ever |
| 21:33.47 | sancus | unless thef rost mage is completely out of cooldowns and also retarded, or something |
| 21:33.52 | TecnoBrat | intercept was causing you to charge and end up 10 ft away from your target |
| 21:33.54 | TecnoBrat | thats broken |
| 21:34.09 | sancus | a frost mage kiting a warrior will never get intercepted |
| 21:34.11 | Kirkburn | heh - http://www.garry.tv/wp-content/plugins/quickimg/image/3a8c7ea88577ed4e6145b774589e19b3.jpg |
| 21:34.19 | dotted | Kirkburn zeeg is a thief *evil grin* |
| 21:34.20 | foxlit | "remove the deadzone for Intercept and Intervene. " Now that'd be a disaster! |
| 21:34.28 | zeeg | :P |
| 21:34.30 | sancus | eh |
| 21:34.33 | sancus | that wouldnt be that big of a deal really |
| 21:34.40 | sancus | it's not like you can effectively kite a warrior in their dead zone... |
| 21:34.41 | Kirkburn | dotted, I already saw you say it once, I still don't understand it! :( |
| 21:34.54 | zeeg | am I bugged |
| 21:34.57 | zeeg | or can you not login to wow |
| 21:35.10 | dotted | :P |
| 21:35.22 | sancus | that trinket change is really a buff to frost mages vs warriors though |
| 21:35.30 | Teomyr | <3 garrysmod |
| 21:35.34 | sancus | because a frost mage can survive a warrior breaking poly even if they get into melee |
| 21:35.49 | sancus | But the warrior now has no way to remove nova so they don't get Shatter crit into the stone age |
| 21:35.53 | foxlit | Most of the time the trinket will be down and you'll repoly them anyway |
| 21:36.03 | sancus | removing nova to prevent damage was a big deal |
| 21:36.12 | foxlit | But I'm all for giving them a tactical leeway to use it as they see fit :) |
| 21:36.21 | sancus | well if you repoly them it's on DR |
| 21:36.25 | sancus | so they'll be poly'd for less time |
| 21:36.26 | sancus | but sure |
| 21:36.57 | Kirkburn | Another great image - http://www.garry.tv/wp-content/plugins/quickimg/image/a72002640e48cc2a6f1d88402198d2fb.jpg |
| 21:37.10 | sancus | I can see why top warriors would want it though |
| 21:37.12 | Adys | whats that? |
| 21:37.17 | sancus | because in group pvp poly takes you out of the fight much more effectively than nova |
| 21:37.33 | foxlit | And Entangling Roots = <3 |
| 21:37.36 | sancus | and a mage that's distracted watching to make sure the warrior doesn't just randomly break it |
| 21:37.46 | sancus | isn't going to be as effective |
| 21:38.58 | foxlit | Not like every serious pvp team doesn't have someone to dispel magic effects anyway |
| 21:43.03 | foxlit | "Kara is way too long, too difficult and the rewards not good enough for the difficulty." |
| 21:43.30 | TecnoBrat | 2 1/2 hour clear is too long? |
| 21:43.39 | foxlit | Discuss the forum comment by comparing it to whining about 5-man strat. |
| 21:43.49 | ggilbert | Too bad they aren't buffing the gear in it. |
| 21:43.57 | TecnoBrat | ggilbert, they are, lol |
| 21:44.12 | TecnoBrat | every level 70 epic in the game got buffed |
| 21:44.23 | cladhaire | some secksy buffs |
| 21:44.26 | ggilbert | TecnoBrat: guh, this is the second time in two days that comment has been killed by the internet sarcasm stripper :) |
| 21:44.32 | Kirkburn | Kara is too long? Do people just want them to line up bosses now? |
| 21:44.32 | cladhaire | :P |
| 21:44.55 | foxlit | Yes! |
| 21:45.02 | foxlit | I want phat epixx for zoning into an instance! |
| 21:45.10 | Devilkoul | sign me up |
| 21:45.55 | foxlit | Because, like, I have to take a portal to SW and fly to Duskwood, paying about 3s in the process. Outrage! |
| 21:45.58 | ggilbert | One of my guild members put it best |
| 21:46.26 | ggilbert | "Remember when the more casual guilds complained that they couldn't field 40 people? And blizzard lowered the raiding cap to 25? Which is 5 more than the 20 man's pre tbc? And remember when people still complained about that? |
| 21:46.26 | ggilbert | I guess we're on the way to solo raid dungeons that drop phat purples." |
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| 21:47.50 | foxlit | Think the people complaining at 40->25 were mostly upset about having to eliminate people from existing guilds. |
| 21:48.14 | Kirkburn | "Are you bored with boss fights? The fight a bit hard? In 2.2.0 we're implementing kill switches that you, or any member of your raid, can flick any time to deathtouch the boss." |
| 21:48.34 | ggilbert | foxlit: He was specifically referencing people whining that 25 people was too many |
| 21:48.41 | TecnoBrat | anyone notice ALOT of people applying to your guild nad have ZERO raiding experience pre-BC? |
| 21:48.52 | foxlit | Nope |
| 21:49.10 | foxlit | Then again, we aren't an entry-level guild. |
| 21:49.16 | ggilbert | Yeah, but that was pretty common pre-BC for us |
| 21:49.46 | ggilbert | Our incoming folks have never really been raiding transfers |
| 21:51.08 | TecnoBrat | I have a feeling 90% of our applicants bought their char |
| 21:51.15 | TecnoBrat | or had a friend give it to them, or whatever |
| 21:51.19 | TecnoBrat | they "aquired" it |
| 21:51.50 | TecnoBrat | foxlit, what guild are you in? |
| 21:54.50 | foxlit | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=104591631&sid=1 win |
| 21:56.23 | foxlit | Asylum. |
| 21:56.32 | foxlit | Nobody too famous :) |
| 21:59.25 | Adys | hahahahha |
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| 22:02.32 | Hobinheim|work | berries and cream |
| 22:02.36 | Hobinheim|work | ~starburst |
| 22:02.59 | Hobinheim|work | infobot, starburst is <reply> Berries and cream, berries and cream! I'm a little lad who loves berries and cream! |
| 22:03.02 | infobot | okay, Hobinheim|work |
| 22:03.03 | Kirkburn | ~coconuts |
| 22:03.05 | infobot | I've got a lovely bunch of coconuts, there they are all standing in a row. Big ones, small ones, some as big as your head, give them a twist, a flick of the wrist, that's what the showman said! |
| 22:03.07 | Hobinheim|work | ~starburst |
| 22:03.09 | infobot | Berries and cream, berries and cream! I'm a little lad who loves berries and cream! |
| 22:03.27 | Kirkburn | Yay for Starburst :) |
| 22:03.52 | Hobinheim|work | infobot, thanks |
| 22:03.52 | infobot | no worries, Hobinheim|work |
| 22:03.55 | Hobinheim|work | aww |
| 22:04.26 | Kirkburn | zerg .... "lvl 10+ Drone – First off, no they cant morph into buildings" |
| 22:04.52 | Kirkburn | So unfair! I wanted to live out my life as a lumber mill! :( |
| 22:04.57 | Hobinheim|work | ~hobinheim |
| 22:04.59 | infobot | somebody said hobinheim was a goon wannabe |
| 22:05.07 | Hobinheim|work | infobot, hobinheim is also an admin |
| 22:05.11 | infobot | okay, Hobinheim|work |
| 22:05.22 | Hobinheim|work | Kirkburn, where are you reading that |
| 22:05.25 | Hobinheim|work | ~hobinheim |
| 22:05.27 | infobot | [hobinheim] a goon wannabe, or an admin |
| 22:05.32 | Kirkburn | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=104591631&sid=1 |
| 22:05.37 | Hobinheim|work | zog you read those |
| 22:07.35 | Hobinheim|work | lol infobot spam enabled? |
| 22:07.43 | Hobinheim|work | infobot, tell Kirkburn about hobinheim |
| 22:08.39 | Hobinheim|work | time to go home... TO MY MAC |
| 22:08.58 | Hobinheim|work | ~stats |
| 22:09.07 | infobot | Since Thu May 10 15:16:17 2007, there have been 73 modifications, 923 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 654 commands. I have been awake for 7d 6h 52m 41s this session, and currently reference 113010 factoids. I'm using about 19120 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 31606.59/1655.72 child 0/0.01 |
| 22:09.07 | Hobinheim|work | !stats |
| 22:09.22 | Hobinheim|work | !wwstats |
| 22:09.22 | [NewsBot] | #wowwiki stats: http://www.bxd.dk/irc/wowwiki.html |
| 22:09.47 | [NewsBot] | Blizzplanet: Wow - Forum Moderator Job Opening - http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=1363 |
| 22:10.00 | *** part/#wowwiki Hobinheim|work (n=Hobinhei@c-69-142-120-32.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 22:11.40 | Kirkburn | Wouldn't that be fun, to be continually mistaken for being a CM :) |
| 22:11.40 | foxlit | subtext: they fired Tseric? |
| 22:11.40 | foxlit | Ah, Mods/CMs :P |
| 22:11.41 | Kirkburn | Irony! |
| 22:11.42 | TecnoBrat | tbh, they probably just need another moderator, lol |
| 22:12.59 | Kirkburn | I'm surprised they cope with the number they have atm |
| 22:13.18 | Kirkburn | For a given value of "cope", of course |
| 22:13.45 | Kirkburn | Where "cope" = "anarchy" |
| 22:20.26 | Bleeter | Kirkburn: at least it's a semi-organised anarchy. True anarchy wouldn't have multiple forums... all posts onto one page. |
| 22:20.37 | Bleeter | I reckon that'd be rather fun :D |
| 22:20.42 | TecnoBrat | in a random order |
| 22:21.06 | TecnoBrat | and when you moderate a post, its random also |
| 22:21.06 | TecnoBrat | it might moderate the right one .. might not |
| 22:21.32 | TecnoBrat | or it just deletes all of the posts form that user |
| 22:21.38 | TecnoBrat | oh wait, that happened |
| 22:26.55 | Kirkburn | Btw, it may or may not mean anything, but the Blizz thing says "Announcement of the New Products" |
| 22:26.59 | Kirkburn | That's plural. |
| 22:27.24 | Bleeter | Kirkburn: you expect seppos to properly form sentences? ;) :P |
| 22:27.54 | TecnoBrat | http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/forums.worldofwarcraft.com/104591580.htm?posts=3 |
| 22:27.59 | Kirkburn | \o/ |
| 22:28.01 | TecnoBrat | "We're announcing a new product on May 19, in Seoul, South Korea at the Blizzard Worldwide Invitational." |
| 22:28.08 | TecnoBrat | "a" "product" |
| 22:31.21 | Adys | Kirkburn : what the hell is up with the infobot msgs :P |
| 22:31.46 | TecnoBrat | Someone working on that moroes article? |
| 22:32.09 | Adys | i will soonish if no one else does |
| 22:32.12 | Adys | in arcatraz atm |
| 22:32.24 | TecnoBrat | I'll do some quick edits |
| 22:34.07 | Kirkburn | Adys, I just thought they were important bits of info! :( |
| 22:35.58 | [NewsBot] | WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/17/npr-simpathetic-to-goldfarmers/ |
| 22:37.21 | Kirkburn | ^ interesting article |
| 22:37.33 | Kirkburn | (*shock! Horror!*) |
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| 22:38.45 | Devilkoul | filler |
| 22:39.23 | Devilkoul | i think that actually ran bout a month ago as well |
| 22:39.36 | Devilkoul | the npr audio, nto the WI article |
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| 22:43.10 | DuTempete | yo yo |
| 22:45.05 | Adys | ello |
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| 22:47.48 | [NewsBot] | wow |
| 22:48.13 | [NewsBot] | it took 17 minutes to reboot my laptop and start mirc |
| 22:49.17 | Kaydeethree | yay for windows |
| 22:50.00 | dotted | idd |
| 23:02.32 | TecnoBrat | is wow.stratics.com down for anyone else? |
| 23:03.32 | Skosiris | appears to be up |
| 23:06.15 | TecnoBrat | yea, aparantly my work connection doesnt like it |
| 23:06.19 | TecnoBrat | works fine form home tho |
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| 23:18.08 | DuTempete | Question: Should a cat for quest items for warlocks go directly under the warlock cat, or go under the quest cat? |
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| 23:25.54 | TecnoBrat | anyone in the warhammer online closed beta? |
| 23:26.29 | Kirkburn|afk | DuTempete, why not both? |
| 23:26.39 | Kirkburn|afk | Anything can be in any category :) |
| 23:26.43 | Thrae | TecnoBrat: What do you want to know about it? |
| 23:26.51 | Kirkburn|afk | Is it shite? ;) |
| 23:27.01 | TecnoBrat | I don't know, I'm curious |
| 23:27.18 | Thrae | Last I heard from my contact in Mythic was "too soon to tell". |
| 23:27.34 | DuTempete | I wouldn't want to do that for redundancy reasons |
| 23:27.34 | TecnoBrat | get a closed beta invite! :P |
| 23:27.36 | Kirkburn|afk | *in* ? |
| 23:27.58 | DuTempete | Ofc it would go under both the general cat, and the warlock specific cat |
| 23:28.15 | DuTempete | but there's no need to put it in two cats under the same heading |
| 23:28.19 | Thrae | I could ask, dunno if they can just give them away...I haven't talked to one designer in over a year, the other one was just promoted to design. |
| 23:28.33 | DuTempete | does that make sense? |
| 23:28.48 | Thrae | DuTempete: All except why Cats are involved. |
| 23:28.56 | Kirkburn|afk | kitties! |
| 23:28.56 | Thrae | Dogs rule, cats drool! |
| 23:29.14 | DuTempete | *sigh* |
| 23:29.17 | Kirkburn|afk | You're a cat? |
| 23:29.27 | Thrae | In spirit, I am. |
| 23:30.12 | Kirkburn|afk | DuTempete, I /think/ I understand |
| 23:30.31 | DuTempete | So, which is better? Warlock > Quests:Warlock > Warlock Quest items & Quests > Warlock Quest Items |
| 23:30.34 | DuTempete | OR |
| 23:31.18 | DuTempete | Warlock > Warlock Quest Items & Quest Items > Warlock Quest Items |
| 23:31.45 | Kirkburn|afk | Former, I'd say |
| 23:32.22 | DuTempete | Oh, I forgot there are Quest Rewards and Quest Items categories, but they're not sub to Quests... |
| 23:32.29 | Kirkburn|afk | :D |
| 23:32.41 | Kirkburn|afk | I need to sleep, mind if I leave you to wrestle with? |
| 23:32.44 | DuTempete | so in the former, they should probably go under those |
| 23:32.55 | DuTempete | hehe sweet dreams, hun :) |
| 23:33.22 | Kirkburn|afk | (and yes, we need big cat diagram to see what all the links are!) |
| 23:33.31 | DuTempete | no kidding |
| 23:33.47 | DuTempete | I get so frustrated, I think of doing it myself =P |
| 23:33.53 | DuTempete | I plan on doing it for the warlock cats, anyway |
| 23:36.22 | Kirkburn|afk | =) |
| 23:40.45 | Kirkburn|afk | Night all! |
| 23:42.22 | Skosiris | Gute Nacht! |
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| 23:46.03 | Kirkburn|afk | Wait ... woah. I just saw the new Transformers trailer. |
| 23:46.13 | Kirkburn|afk | Absolutely incredible. |
| 23:46.41 | MatthewS | transformers.wikia.com *hint* |
| 23:46.50 | dotted | lol |
| 23:47.19 | MatthewS | it was good, buddy of mine is a complete transformers fanatic, he has decals on the hood and sides of his car |
| 23:47.26 | MatthewS | shoved me to the new trailer |
| 23:48.05 | dotted | ppl need to get away from the wikipedia colors |
| 23:48.15 | dotted | man that gets tireing to look on |
| 23:48.22 | Kirkburn|afk | They certainly did a good job with the robots |
| 23:48.56 | MatthewS | yeah, im impressed with the design. worried about the plot and dialogue. i refuse to have expectations for that movie. too easy to screw it up |
| 23:49.03 | Kirkburn|afk | I noticed how they cut out the bit where Optimus introduces himself |
| 23:49.13 | Kirkburn|afk | The bit with the infamous lips, to be exact |
| 23:49.23 | Thrae | Optimus has lips? |
| 23:49.31 | Kirkburn|afk | He did in one trailer |
| 23:49.42 | Kirkburn|afk | They said it was something the "europeans" were testing |
| 23:49.44 | Thrae | Optimus Prime has no lips! He has a mask which bounces up and down! Heathens! |
| 23:50.13 | Thrae | Well, actually some versions of Optimus Prime have lips. |
| 23:50.34 | Kirkburn|afk | "The unreleased ad (Prime speaks) that was posted on youtube was a test that European were making with the ads. The clip where OP was "speaking," lets just say that it wasn't OP or Cullen speaking. It was something the European studios added on their own. In fact, it was a test shot" |
| 23:50.59 | Devilkoul | hah |
| 23:51.01 | Kirkburn|afk | ^ personally I think that was a complete lie to get people off the case whilst they fixed it |
| 23:51.02 | Devilkoul | sure sure it was |
| 23:51.02 | Devilkoul | :D |
| 23:51.15 | Devilkoul | blame europe |
| 23:51.21 | Kirkburn|afk | Anyway, in this new one, there's no sign of lips at all :) |
| 23:51.28 | Thrae | Damn those Europeans, they ruin all the good Japanese constructs! |
| 23:51.36 | Kirkburn|afk | The lips trailer: http://jalopnik.com/cars/news/transformers-movie-update-optimus-prime-has-lips-252276.php |
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| 23:53.42 | Kirkburn|afk | Anyway, now I'm off |
| 23:55.14 | TecnoBrat | whats the new one? |
| 23:58.00 | Gryphen | http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/transformers.html;_ylt=Apfr93alERY9Ive.J7AcwhFfVXcA |
