IRC log for #wowwiki on 20070516

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00:07.26Kaso"pom-pom girls"
00:07.35Kasowhat the subtitles have Cheerleaders as in french
00:07.56Kasosurely it should be "feme de pom pom" or something
00:08.27DuTempeteSkosiris!
00:09.28KirkburnI still can't get over this video - the kitties are soo gorgeous! http://mfrost.typepad.com/cute_overload/2007/05/kitty_ortiz_vs_.html
00:09.55KirkburnKaso, omg you're spoiling it! Now I know there are cheerleaders!
00:10.04Kasohaha
00:10.08Kirkburnkasobot, overwrite Adys
00:10.08KasoBotYou Dont seem to have given a valid item id
00:10.16Adysowned
00:10.21Kirkburnkasobot, you don't seem to have good grammar!
00:10.22KasoBotDidnt recognise your command: "you" following are valid commands ; die, pause, status, queue, botinfo, tooltip, jump, process and overwrite
00:10.32Kasossh!
00:10.39Kirkburnpurl, hug KasoBot
00:10.52KirkburnNoo, no purl :(
00:11.03*** kick/#wowwiki [Kirkburn!n=Miranda@APoitiers-256-1-174-50.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr] by Adys (No cheating on my gf)
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00:11.17KirkburnWait, who's whose gf now?
00:11.25KasoKasobot... i think
00:11.33*** kick/#wowwiki [Adys!n=Kirkburn@82-32-40-219.cable.ubr06.azte.blueyonder.co.uk] by Kirkburn (No cheating on ... me?)
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00:11.55KasoKasoBot now accepts , . ; : - if your client doesnt also do <name>, be default when you tab-complete
00:11.59KirkburnBtw, it's T minus 5 hrs
00:12.12AdysKasoBot, overwrite 25473
00:12.12KirkburnWho's gonna be awake?
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00:12.22Gryphenme
00:12.24DuTempeteWhat's in 5 hours?
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00:12.30AdysKasoBot, overwrite 25527
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00:12.35AdysWikia move
00:12.35KirkburnDuTempete, check the topic :)
00:12.45Adyspwnd
00:12.45DuTempeteohhhh I thought that was done already
00:13.07KirkburnGod, if the wiki acts like this on the wikia servers .... well, I'd rather not go there
00:13.19Adyslol
00:13.19Kasolike what?
00:13.24AdysNuffin
00:13.43KirkburnDeadlock paradise, Kaso :)
00:13.59KirkburnHere a dealock, there a deadlock, everywhere a deadlock!
00:14.07Kasoah
00:14.09Kasoyes
00:14.15KasoSwift_Red_Gryphon is 21189, i didnt know there were TBC items so low
00:14.15KirkburnTwas a failed lock raid y'see
00:14.40Adyskaso, your bot has done a few low lvl jwc items already
00:14.51Kasodidnt notice
00:15.08KasoI thought pretty much all tbc items were in the high 20 thousands
00:15.12Adysbtw
00:15.15Kasoguess im wrong
00:15.17*** part/#wowwiki Reskar (n=HP_Admin@ool-457020d7.dyn.optonline.net)
00:15.17Adysswift red gryphon is 25527
00:15.24Kasooh
00:15.27Kasoyou just did that!
00:15.29Kasodamn you!
00:15.35Adyshttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=21189
00:15.36AdysoO
00:15.50KirkburnI think Gryphen got fed up of being pinged
00:15.58KasoI really should put some console output when its switching to a user-provided ID
00:15.59Adyslol
00:16.09Adyswho's pinging gryph?
00:16.12AdysOh
00:16.12Adysnvm.
00:16.19Adysshit, im slow tonight lol
00:17.10Adyskasobot, overwrite 25471
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00:17.58Kasoi think ill remove the responce from that too
00:18.09Adyshm kaso
00:18.10Adysactually
00:18.17Adysis it poss
00:18.30Adysif kasobot sends me a pm when he's done a request?
00:18.38AdysAttempting to overwrite blah
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00:18.59Kasoyah i can do that
00:19.02Adyscoolio
00:19.38KasoIll sort that tommorrow though bored with coding tonight
00:19.42Kasoremind me
00:20.37Adyswill tyr
00:20.38Adystyr
00:20.40Adystyr
00:20.42AdysTRY
00:21.07Kirkburn|afkIroneeeeee!
00:21.23KasoC'est Fini Au Revior!
00:21.30Adys:<
00:21.45Kasoi find the subtitles on this amusing somehow
00:21.47Adysau revoir
00:21.54Kasoim surprised how much i understand
00:22.10Kasoi guess hearing it in english cant hurt either :>
00:22.18Adyshehe
00:22.23KasoC'est Ca!
00:24.35KasoAdys, whats the french word for subtitle?
00:24.45Skosirissous-titre
00:24.51Kasohmm
00:24.59Adysaye sous-titre
00:25.05Adysdamn ya sko
00:25.09Kasowhat does "VOSTFR" on the end mean then
00:25.21KasoHeroes 1x02 Don't look back Part 3VOSTFR
00:25.37AdysVersion Original Sous Titre Francais
00:25.40ThraeThat means it's in French
00:25.45Adys(Original Version, French Subtitles)
00:26.01Kasoha interesting
00:26.17Kasoits a well known acronym?
00:26.18Skosiris"VOSTFR"  ->  Version originale, [avec] sous-titre français
00:26.25Skosirisnope, first time I see it :)
00:26.59DuTempeteoh my god, Kirk.
00:27.01Adysuhm its the standard on movies etc
00:27.02Skosirisor it might be. I don`t usually download movies in French
00:27.19DuTempeteI couldn't even get to the video.  The website itself sent shivers down my spine.
00:27.21Adysif you download them you have a very low chance to see that acronym :P
00:27.27Kasohaha
00:27.41Adysc'est ecrit au dos des cassettes etc
00:27.46Kasowe have this internal file sharing thing on our university
00:28.10Kasoand i sware about three or four times ive gotten movies in french, (dubbed) pisses me off people should label em
00:28.31DuTempeteheh... french subtitles... that brings back memories
00:28.57DuTempetemy roommates and I used to get really stoned... and then watch movies with the french subtitles on
00:29.09DuTempeteand then I would try to say the subtitles outloud...
00:29.15AdysUgh
00:29.17DuTempeteproblem was, I couldn't keep up
00:29.20AdysI read "outland" here
00:29.25Adysi play too much, too
00:29.31DuTempetehehe
00:29.55KasoOutlands!
00:30.28Outlandsgramatically it should be "Outlands hump" but whatever
00:30.51Kasohaha
00:32.55Outlandskasobot, sup
00:33.02KasoBotKasoBot Status is as follows : Processing itemID 21434 (blank-item-id) Session status: 104/200 page generations complete.
00:34.22AdysKaso btw, would it be poss once we're done with all these items to have KasoBot around in the chan to fix pages faster case by case?
00:34.36KasoWhy wouldnt you want to use your gamecard?
00:34.39Adysidling but taking requests
00:35.00KasoIll start it off on a second run theres a fair few i missed out
00:35.02Adys(once we're done with the 40 000 IDs)
00:35.11Kasoalso yah i can have it idleing
00:35.29Adysah cool
00:36.06Malakorok no help in the lounge, can someone help me with a couple of script questions?
00:36.06Adysbtw
00:36.06Adyshttp://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Braided_Copper_Ring&rcid=559318
00:36.07Adyshttp://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Solid_Bronze_Ring&rcid=559319
00:36.10AdysMalakor: can try
00:36.10KasoI can help you in #wowi-lounge Malakor
00:36.20Adyskaso, lol
00:36.27Malakorok
00:37.04DuGabaritKaso: My best friend bought it, thinking I would be out for a while.  He misunderstood me.
00:37.28KasoWhat about those pages Adys?
00:37.32DuGabaritSo, I told him I'd wait until Friday, and if I don't have the money then, I'd use it.
00:37.37Adyslow lvl jwc recipes
00:40.26zeegSo I was thinking
00:40.35zeegon our dev tracker I can mark a forum as "is_useless" (like customer support)
00:40.41zeegShould I mark the Hunter Discussion as that too?
00:41.01Adyslol
00:41.20Adysyou should mark some cms are is_useless too
00:41.27zeeghaha
00:41.32zeegWhenever I think of Hunters I think of "Hunter Item" :P
00:41.52DuGabaritHell, just mark the whole things as "is_useless" if you're gonna do 'em all.
00:42.01DuGabaritdo 'em *at* all
00:42.16zeegoh theres some useful ones though
00:42.20zeegI'd bet at least one a month
00:42.30DuGabaritAll they ever say is "Working as intended" and "I dunno, we'll see." and "Guess you'll just have to wait fo the patch!"
00:45.32Adyskasobot, overwrite 20735
00:45.32KasoBotAttempting to overwrite itemID 20735
00:46.20Adyskasobot, queue
00:46.21KasoBotKasoBot Edit Queue is 64 long at 10s between edits this is aproximately 10min queue
00:46.21KasoBotFirst 10 entries in queue; Ossirian's_Binding, Shackles_of_the_Unscarred, Stinger_of_Ayamiss, Thick_Silithid_Chestguard, Mantle_of_Maz'Nadir, Gauntlets_of_Southwind, Cloak_of_the_Savior, Talon_of_Furious_Concentration, Dustwind_Turban, Eye_of_Moam, Chitinous_Shoulderguards,
00:46.25Adysah k
00:46.30zeegAdys: whats it do w/ the items?
00:46.41Adyswe're taking over the world
00:46.50zeegbesides the obvious :)
00:46.53AdysMEET KASOBOT, MEET YOUR MASTER!
00:46.54KasoBotDidnt recognise your command: "meet" following are valid commands ; die, pause, status, queue, botinfo, tooltip, jump, process and overwrite
00:46.59Adyslol
00:47.03zeegmeet die
00:47.09zeeg:<
00:47.11zeegoh
00:47.15zeegKasobot, die
00:47.15KasoBotYou dont have process killing permissions zeeg
00:47.18zeeg:<
00:47.23zeegKasobot, tooltip
00:47.23KasoBotYou dont seem to have given a valid item id
00:47.31zeegkasobot, tooltip 20735
00:47.31KasoBotDoesn't appear to be an item at that ID.
00:47.36zeeg:o
00:48.02Adyswait, what?
00:48.05DuGabarit~Adys
00:48.24infobotadys is, like, in love with Tusva
00:48.24Adyswtf
00:48.32DuGabaritlol slow tonight
00:48.43AdysKaso http://www.wowhead.com/?item=20735
00:48.45DuGabaritand I'm dissapointed in you, Adys
00:48.52Adyssorry sweetie
00:49.12Adys~adys
00:49.14infobotextra, extra, read all about it, adys is in love with DuTempete
00:49.14Kasohmm
00:49.16KasoKasoBot, tooltip 20735
00:49.16KasoBotDoesn't appear to be an item at that ID.
00:49.24DuGabaritWOOT!
00:49.37Kasowhat the hell thats wierd
00:49.43zeegwhats it use the items for?
00:49.47Kasoarmory
00:49.54Kasoi think noone in US has that item.
00:50.00Kasoor has seen it for a while
00:50.00Adyshttp://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/item-tooltip.xml?i=20735
00:50.05AdysLol
00:50.08Adysno way no one in the US have it
00:50.13Adysthoug
00:50.21Adysit'd make sense if its not been seen for a while
00:50.25Adysits a formula and a rare drop with that
00:50.25zeegits been seen recently
00:50.32Adysso it might have been learned
00:50.36KasoTwin emps drop? who woul dhave seen that?
00:50.39Adyswhen they are learned they get destroyed
00:50.44zeegsec let me get you a date
00:50.57Adyskaso you're getting a date.
00:51.02Kasoyay!
00:51.07zeeg2007-04-28 01:04:37
00:51.10zeegis my last update
00:51.18KasoYou saw it then?
00:51.20Adysthats nearly three weeks
00:51.25zeegi didnt, but it was seen
00:51.29Kasooh
00:51.32zeegAdys: thats not that long :)
00:51.34KasoIm not 100% sure on how armory sets items as availble
00:51.46zeegwant XML?
00:51.55Kasoperhaps theres some "critital mass" that of sightings that has to be seen before it appears on armory
00:52.00Adyssomehow i doubt http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/item-tooltip.xml?i=30007 has been seen recently
00:52.11KasoTrue
00:52.22KasoIm not actually that sure
00:52.26Adysshush
00:52.32Adyswhats the ID for the talisman of binding shard?
00:52.41zeeghttp://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/database/items/index.xml?q=Formula
00:52.47Adyshttp://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/item-tooltip.xml?i=17782 hah
00:52.49KasoZeeg unless you use the same syntax as armory xml is useless to me :>
00:52.54zeegah
00:52.59zeegseems i have a bug on my search anyways
00:53.03Adyskasobot, tooltip 17782
00:53.08KasoBotYour tooltip for itemid 17782 (Talisman of Binding Shard) is now ready at http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Kaso/Tooltip_SandBox
00:53.33KasoThe Shard is still on a players account so youd guess that'd be valid
00:55.28Kasois Noktyn on armory? i cant search, linux flashplayer doesnt like armory's serach box
00:56.35Adyshm, sec
00:57.10Adyseven if he is i doubt he's wearing it
00:57.15Adysits a pretty shit item :P
00:57.29KasoTrue
00:57.35AdysGuild Notorious, was that him?
00:57.40Kasonope
00:57.40Adyswait, gnome, its not
00:57.42Kasonurfed
00:57.51Adyshah, he's still 60
00:57.55Kasothough if i had that i'd wear it like every moment when i wasnt in combat
00:57.57Adyshttp://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Blackrock&n=Noktyn
00:58.03AdysAmulet of the Darkmoon lol
00:58.06Kasohaha
00:58.10Adyshttp://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Blackrock&n=Noktyn actually sorry
00:58.12Kasorerolled i guess then
00:58.24Adysthats quite sasd
00:58.34Adysyou're the only one to have a specific item in the world
00:58.35Adysyou reroll
00:59.05Adysgod, ive been playing my mage for three years and the most unique thing I have is a fuckton of onyxia backpacks
00:59.16Kirkburn|afkI'm off to bed
00:59.26Adysnn kinky
00:59.27Kirkburn|afkHere's hoping the transfer goes well :)
00:59.29Kasoi was the second person on my server to get a certain item when i was naxx raiding that made me feel pretty specical
00:59.54AdysI was the first to get the Wand of Fates!
00:59.56AdysI still have it
01:00.14Kasoha
01:00.16Adysserverfirst patchwerk gives memories ^^
01:00.20Kirkburn|afkG'night all :)
01:00.21Kasomine was Wand of Whispering Death :>
01:00.26Kasosame model (sexy model)
01:00.26Adysnn kirk :D
01:00.28Kasonight kirk
01:01.56Kasoi cant believe i raided naxx for so long and only got three bloody items from it >.<
01:02.04Adyshm
01:02.19AdysWand of Fates, Noth's ring and Razuvious' cloak here
01:02.19KasoI was in naxx still wearing my level 57 tailored robe (truefaith)
01:02.26Adysoh come on..
01:02.40Adysheh, i actually remember
01:02.50Adyswas like two and half year ago, had just turned 60
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01:03.19Adyswas right before a server maintenance during the countdown, I bidded 29g on the trufaith vestments pattern at the last 15 sec
01:03.29Adyshad a priest standing next to me, won it the next day lol
01:03.32Kasothe only replacements for truefaith were t2 (perhaps) and the one from AQ, t2 i never got lucky on dkp and i never ever saw the one from aq
01:03.36Kasohaha
01:03.39Kasoyou evil!
01:03.52AdysTelrendir or something like that, priest from <Orion>
01:03.58AdysI whispered him two years later
01:04.01Adystold him that
01:04.07Adysapologized and sent him 30g by mail
01:04.29AdysNo sorry not 30g, the pattern itself
01:04.40Adysor, dont remember actually
01:04.50Kasohaha
01:05.16Adysi offered the pattern to one of my best friends by then and pretty much levelling buddy
01:05.32Adyswas the casual watching the hardcore player or something :P
01:05.36Adys"omg full blues, wow"
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01:05.56Adysshit, its been a while :P
01:06.02Kasoi think when we stopped doing BWL we had killed Nef around 80-90 times we never saw a lok'll
01:06.18Adyshah, lok amir i think we saw twice
01:06.23DuGabaritkasobot, I love you
01:06.23KasoBotDidnt recognise your command: "i" following are valid commands ; die, pause, status, queue, botinfo, tooltip, jump, process and overwrite
01:06.35Adyshere I killed azu like 80 times and never saw a cold snap
01:06.36KasoKasoBot, status
01:06.38KasoBotKasoBot Status is as follows : Processing batch complete, watiting for edits to wiki to complete Session status: 201/200 page generations complete.
01:06.54KasoYou killed Azuregos 80 times wow?
01:06.56DuGabaritnow all those non-existant articles I've been collecting will have at least a stub :)
01:07.00Adysabout that
01:07.01Adysprob less
01:07.05Adys60-70 times
01:07.11Kasoi cant say ive done more than 10
01:07.12Adysbut we were camping him in my old guild
01:07.17Kasodone kazzak twice
01:07.26DuGabaritDude... did you guys see the video of the hunter soloing Azure?
01:07.32Adysyes
01:07.37Adyseven saw another hunter doing it
01:07.44DuGabaritI sooooooo want to solo Azuregos, now
01:07.53DuGabaritIt'd be easy for me to get +heal gear
01:07.54Kasowe have lke a 2:1 raitio on our server alliance always got worldspawns
01:07.54Adysyou got 6 days to do so
01:07.55Adysgogo
01:08.05Adyssame here kaso
01:08.06DuGabaritum, why?
01:08.07KasoDuGabarit, theyre nerfing that in 2.1
01:08.09Adysalliance always gets worldspawn
01:08.13DuGabarit*cry*
01:08.16Adysthats why im alliance too
01:08.38DuGabaritWhat're they doing to it?
01:08.46Adysmend pet no longer gets bonus healing
01:08.54DuGabaritI'm a lock
01:08.58Adyslol
01:09.01Adyshaha
01:09.04Adysawesome
01:09.10DuGabaritmy pet heal already does more than mend pet
01:09.24Kasogogo give it a go
01:09.29Adysi dont think they're nerfing lock heals
01:09.54KasoAzuregos is a real pain to fight
01:10.01Kasoits not like its hard, its just annoying
01:10.15DuGabaritBut now that I think about it, I'm not sure I've seen my +dmg/heal gear effecting my pet heals
01:11.02Kasogive it a test
01:11.36Kasohaha wtf
01:12.24KasoThey translate "FORGIVE ME!" written in huge red letters on a wall to "Pardonne moi" my french aint too hot but it seems a little tame for the situation
01:12.49Adysnah its the right translation
01:12.56Adysto forgive = pardonner
01:13.10Kasoi thought that was like Excuse me
01:13.11Adysits actually literally correct
01:13.15Kasoexcuse me
01:13.25AdysExcuse me = Excuses moi
01:13.32Kasooh
01:13.34Kasodidnt know that
01:14.12AdysThe difference is, in English "Forgiving" is always much stronger than Excusing
01:14.43Adysin french, "Pardonner" may be used in its weak sense and in much more religious or strong sentences
01:14.49Adyswhatever is up with my grammar
01:15.22KasoI understand
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01:16.11AdysWe should remake the page for the Red Swift Gryphon
01:16.18Kasowhy?
01:16.37Adysjust saying it randomly to ping gryphen
01:16.39Kasohaha
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01:19.36zeegwhat was the version on the test server patch yesterday ?
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01:19.44Adysthe new or the old ?
01:19.49zeegnewest
01:19.57Adys6678
01:20.13zeegand 2.1.0 ya?
01:20.13[NewsBot]omg activity
01:20.18Adysomgomg
01:20.25*** kick/#wowwiki [[NewsBot]!n=Miranda@APoitiers-256-1-174-50.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr] by Adys (omgomg)
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01:24.02DuGabaritpooh... somebody made http://www.wowwiki.com/Briarthorn and didn't change the links anywhere...
01:24.23DuGabaritaHA!  It was Vargh!
01:29.35Kasotheres a person called Briarthorn? what a lame name
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01:30.42DuGabaritIt's a gnome warlock trainer =P
01:31.11zeegexplains it
01:31.17DuGabarithehe
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01:33.20Kaso"Good man" -> Brave garcon
01:33.28Kasodoesnt garcon mean boy?
01:33.43AdysLiterally it does
01:33.57Adysit also means "young man" as in, 20-25 years old
01:34.02Adysdepends
01:34.22Kasoi was always told it was quite insulting, like calling a waiter garcon
01:34.32Adysits not tbh
01:34.34Kasogarcon looks silly without the funny c.
01:34.44AdysGarçon?
01:34.48Kasothats it!
01:34.51Adysit does yeah
01:35.07Kasochanges the way you would prounce it
01:36.33KasoOh god >.< thats a disgusting scene.
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01:44.40_Petrus_hi...
01:44.59_Petrus_I've been trying to get my email address validated with the wiki so I can continue editing
01:45.19_Petrus_it says it has sent me a confirmation email...but the email never arrives
01:48.33Adyssigh
01:48.43Adyshttp://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Fandyllic
01:50.27_Petrus_??
01:51.39_Petrus_if I knew how to communicate with anyone associated with the wiki in any other way, I wouldn't have come here
01:51.56_Petrus_but it's a little difficult to leave a note on anyone's page when I can't get edit access at all
01:52.16Adyssorry _Petrus_ that wasnt meant to you
01:52.21_Petrus_ok
01:52.34AdysEr, confirmation mails are sorted by vlad
01:52.50Adysbut with the whole move tonight etc you're better off waiting 24 hours or so and ask again
01:53.03_Petrus_ok
01:53.04_Petrus_np
01:54.09_Petrus_I've more or less let my wikipedia account go by the wayside...that site has died IMNSHO, and so I don't really care about editing it any more one way or the other...wowwiki however has become somewhat important to me.
01:56.15_Petrus_this vlad tho...he does come here, yes?
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01:56.49Adyshes on the chan
01:56.51Adysbut afk atm
01:57.19_Petrus_oh ok
01:57.40_Petrus_then I will come back later, per your recommendation. :)
01:57.48Adyssure
01:59.36AdysKaso ping
01:59.43Kasohey
01:59.56Adysyou know of an addon that generates an itemlink from an ID?
02:00.05KasoItemMagic
02:00.10Adysthanks
02:00.11Kasofor all your linking needs
02:00.22Kasoim not sure if theres a 2.1 version but if you cant find one ill upload the one i have
02:00.35Kasoalot of the times i dont bother updating addons and i just fix em :>
02:01.01Adyswouldnt mind =P
02:01.10Adyshttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4776-Elviso's_ItemMagic.html works with 2.1?
02:01.40Kasonope
02:01.45Adysbah
02:01.48Adysim lazy, just send me it =P
02:02.26Kasogimme a moment
02:02.31Adyslove you :)
02:02.35DuGabaritAdys, the link in this tooltip http://www.wowwiki.com/Briarthorn_%28Herb%29 is wrong... how do I fix it?
02:04.44AdysLike that DuGabarit
02:04.45Adyshttp://www.wowwiki.com/Briarthorn
02:05.44Kasohehe
02:05.49DuGabaritYeah, I like that better.
02:06.28KasoI think that pages should always be one of the things then for others try whatever_(disambig) or whatever_Otherthing
02:06.36Kasolinking direct to a disambig is silly
02:07.00Kasokasoo.net/filez/ItemMagic.zip
02:07.16Adysgotcha, thanks :)
02:10.01MatthewShey folks, ive been gradually moving dns stuff for wowwiki.com today.
02:10.08MatthewSif you see any issues yell please :)
02:10.21MatthewSit's been aok so far, but just in case...
02:10.34MatthewSif you don't know what dns is, don't worry
02:10.40Kasohaha
02:10.53DuGabaritBoo, Adys
02:10.58Adysyah
02:10.59DuGabaritWarn me before you do that
02:11.06Adystoo late
02:11.10DuGabaritI just changed the warlock articles to (warlock)
02:11.22DuGabarit*sigh*
02:13.04DuGabaritOh, well.  Thank god for redirects =P
02:19.06DuGabaritOk, here's something interesting...
02:20.10DuGabaritThe orc trainers all say "orcish city of orgrimmar".. and link to the Orcish article, on the language
02:20.26DuGabaritthat should be changed to Orc, shouldn't it?
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03:05.01DuGabaritnight night
03:05.05Adysnn :)
03:12.02Adysnn ppl
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03:26.46Sky2042now why are all the comments on http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29434#M0z rated so high? :x
03:27.37Skosiriso_O
03:28.00Skosirismaybe there`s some conspiracy
03:28.18Sky2042lol
03:32.56KasoVote em down! we'll show those damn conspiritors who's boss!
03:34.26Kasofuck me its 20 to five
03:34.44Skosirislol
03:34.58Sky2042lol
03:39.18Sky2042oooooooo
03:39.39Sky2042http://www.wowwiki.com/Template_talk:Tooltip#Param_Pairs
03:40.42[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/15/guildwatch-stripped-bare/
03:44.55Sky2042hey, kirkburn|afk or tekkub, can one of you have a look at http://www.wowwiki.com/Template_talk:Tooltip#Disambig_items and figure out how to add that to the template as is? (using parser, naturally)
03:46.37Tekkubhuh?
03:47.09Sky2042we need to be able to disambig some item tooltips, and that has the code to do it. however, it's using the old if, rather than the new #if
03:47.34Tekkubso make it use the new one?
03:47.53Sky2042aye
03:48.02Sky2042i can't edit the template though -_-
03:49.15Tekkubcopy it to Template:whatever/Dev, make it work, and tell an admin when it's ready to copy back
03:49.15Sky2042ah
03:55.16Sky2042hmm
03:59.55Sky2042wait...
04:00.05Sky2042#ifex would work, wouldn't it?
04:00.09Sky2042hmm
04:01.21Sky2042nej
04:02.41Sky2042hmmm
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04:11.58Hobinheimasdf
04:12.04Sky2042hobinheim
04:12.09Sky2042lol
04:12.20Hobinheimcan't find the buddy list on colloquy
04:12.23Sky2042what does {{FULLPAGENAME}} and {{PAGENAME}} do?
04:12.28Sky2042if you know
04:12.38Hobinheiminsert those tokens into that space
04:12.42Hobinheimthe name of the page
04:12.50Hobinheimand then probably the name of the page if it was part of a formal namespace
04:13.08Hobinheimlike "Questbox border" and "Template:Questbox border" or something like that
04:15.40Hobinheimoh i have to expand the thingie on the side...
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04:16.38Hobinheimi'm currently installing warcraft
04:16.44Hobinheimso this computer can show me its POWER
04:18.28Hobinheimis this thing broken or is it quiet?
04:18.44Sky2042lol
04:18.44Hobinheimping test vlad_ sancus tekkub blah blah just testing
04:18.56Tekkubdnog
04:18.58Hobinheimtenx
04:18.59Tekkub*dong
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04:19.23*** kick/#wowwiki [Hobinheim!n=tekkub@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/Tekkub] by Tekkub (I don't think it worked)
04:20.31Tekkubsee my test was better :)
04:21.16Sky2042(wikipedia's bureaurcracy is really, really, large)
04:22.14Tekkubof course it is, anyone can edit it
04:23.20Sky2042aye, and anyone can edit ours
04:23.26Sky2042that doesn't mean much
04:23.29Sky2042>.>
04:47.30Sky2042hmm
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04:55.53sancuswb hob!!!!
04:56.08Hobinheimhey
04:56.10Hobinheimthis mac is neat
04:56.14Hobinheimi'm up and running and install things
04:56.17Hobinheimit's super duper
04:56.18MatthewSwhat kind?
04:56.57Hobinheimmac pro
04:57.03Hobinheimbase case + 1 gig of ram
04:58.59Sky2042how much?
04:59.16Sky2042ow
04:59.35Hobinheimlots
04:59.38Hobinheimyou can look it up
04:59.43Sky2042http://store.apple.com/AppleStore/WebObjects/BizCustom?qprm=78313&family=MacPro
04:59.45MatthewSdual or quad core?
04:59.48Hobinheimzomg
04:59.56Hobinheimit's still patching, i didn't even get to  sign on
05:00.01Hobinheimand then i have to set up bongos, AGAIN
05:00.11Hobinheimi'm not crazy, i'm just impatient
05:00.14Hobinheimi don't have a main tower and now i have this
05:00.16Hobinheimit'll have to do
05:00.58MatthewSeh, i have no computer but my mbp
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05:03.01Sky2042basically, $2.5k?
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05:04.49Sky2042oh
05:05.41Sky2042literally make it a link
05:05.42Sky2042hmm
05:05.43JunkHead-WorkHello.
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05:12.39Hobinheimwhen i delete something in mail.app where does it go?
05:18.42Sky2042aaaaaaaa
05:18.45Sky2042bad vlad_
05:18.48Sky2042bad bad vlad_
05:19.04vlad_haha
05:19.08vlad_22:16 <MatthewS> ok, going read-only. do you give any warning or just let it happen?
05:19.11vlad_22:18 <vlad_> nope, just go for it
05:19.14vlad_22:18 <+Sky2042> aaaaaaaa
05:19.23vlad_I guess we managed to catch someone mid-edit :p
05:19.53Sky2042or, rather {{Tooltip/Dev}}
05:20.17Sky2042this is during the eu dt, isn't it?
05:20.27MatthewSsoon, yes
05:21.27MatthewScentralish europe should be up soon
05:21.35Sky2042bah
05:21.41Sky2042who cares about the germans?
05:21.41MatthewSi hope they want coffee more than WoW
05:22.45sancusanyone know wtf you do
05:22.54sancusif you're raiding on ML and the raid leader dc's?
05:22.56sancusis there any way to loot? lol
05:23.12MatthewSfile a ticket, dont do anything to screw with the corpse
05:23.17Sky2042^^^^^^
05:23.22Sky2042and wait
05:23.27Sky2042and lern2not ml
05:23.29Sky2042nublet ;P
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05:24.27sancusit wasnt me
05:24.34sancusmy guild has always raided ffa because of that :p
05:24.39Sky2042looooool
05:24.40sancusbut damn, that is fucking lame
05:24.43Sky2042that is
05:24.46Sky2042but that's ml
05:25.04sancusThere should be a way to bring up the loot window in the UI
05:25.11sancusI bet you could do it if you knew the function call to load that frame
05:25.19sancusand were raid leader
05:26.17JunkHead-WorkI got into a new guild today.
05:26.21Sky2042coolio
05:26.31Sky2042do they know what they're doing? ;P
05:26.44JunkHead-WorkBefore I came to work some were in Karazhan.
05:26.56JunkHead-WorkWe will be running Kara when I get home from work also.
05:27.13Sky2042so that would be a yes
05:27.15JunkHead-WorkAs for progress, they have not cleared Kara yet, but ar close.
05:27.27Sky2042you took the words out of my mouth
05:29.46JunkHead-WorkHaha looks like my old guild finally went back to Kara tonigth also.
05:30.09Sky2042lol
05:30.12Sky2042prolly failed
05:30.17JunkHead-WorkThey downed Attumen!
05:30.26JunkHead-WorkAnd the loot was leather feet.
05:30.33JunkHead-WorkWhich went to the Druid Tank.
05:30.36Sky2042lol
05:30.41Sky2042good for them
05:30.51Sky2042bagginsww, you here
05:30.59Sky2042nvm
05:30.59JunkHead-WorkThe same leather tank who left the guild to join a raiding guild, then got invited back, and no officers would say why!
05:35.26Sky2042is nightbane just an onyxia remake?
05:35.28Sky2042lol
05:36.01Sky2042other than the deep breath
05:36.37Bagginswwya sky
05:36.43Bagginswwalthough I"m in a raid too
05:36.56Sky2042is nightbane classified as undead?
05:37.20Sky2042and does that make him part of the undead dragonflight?
05:37.23Sky2042>>
05:37.25Sky2042>.>
05:37.54Bagginswwthere is an undead dragonflight?
05:38.18Bagginswwhe's not a frostworm
05:38.20Sky2042the one created by the lich king?
05:38.30Bagginswwnah not a frost worm
05:38.42Bagginswwnor is he one of those corrupted ones in scholomance
05:39.04Bagginswwthough I"m sure he's an undead dragon
05:39.10Sky2042hmm
05:39.22Sky2042no doubt of that
05:39.27Sky2042pile of bones = undead
05:39.28Sky2042lol
05:39.34Bagginswwindeed LOL
05:39.47Sky2042hmm
05:40.12Bagginswwwhen is the wowwiki maintaince end?
05:40.24JunkHead-WorkNEVER!
05:40.27JunkHead-Work:)
05:42.35Bagginswwisn't there a quest line that tells his story?
05:42.51BagginswwI mean to get the artifact you need to summon him
05:43.06Sky2042i'll go have a look see at it
05:45.01MatthewStonight's maintenance is going to take a while
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05:47.58Bagginswwahh?
05:48.11Sky2042http://www.wowwiki.com/WW:VP
05:48.31Sky2042read the "Wowwiki moving to wiki" section
05:48.34Sky2042wikia*
05:49.06ThraeWowwiki is moving to become an official wiki? No more manually editing HTML pages on a CGI queue?!?!
05:49.36Sky2042huh?
05:49.44ThraeI'm just being bored.
05:51.26Bagginswwhopes that wowwiki doesn't become part of the wikipedia :p
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05:52.15Sky2042lol
05:52.19Sky2042conspiracy theory
05:52.20Sky2042!!!
05:52.58Sky2042it would seem that he's just an dragon killed by Medivh, and then affected by either a. Medivh himself, or b. the tower, Karazhan.
05:53.22Sky2042then we are given the ability to summon him by stealing one his bones
05:53.24Sky2042i think
05:53.34Bagginswwcool
05:53.36Sky2042which, naturally, he isn't happy about
05:54.22Sky2042http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=9644#00z
05:54.31Sky2042http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=9644
05:57.38Bagginswwhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Taur-ahe
05:58.05Bagginswwdo me  a favor once that page is unlocked, move that "in-game translation" section into speulation portion of the article :p
05:58.47Bagginswwthe words are generated from the same word list as the tauren speach algorithm :p
05:59.08Bagginswwso not very "trustworthy" as a true translation
05:59.20Sky2042looooooool
05:59.36JunkHead-WorkHow do you start the quest to summon nightbane anyway?
05:59.45JunkHead-Worknm
05:59.56JunkHead-WorkYou posted links already.
06:00.43[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.m.wowinsider.com/2007/05/15/guildwatch-stripped-bare/
06:00.43[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.m.wowinsider.com/2007/05/15/stratics-dev-chat-live-coverage/
06:00.43[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.m.wowinsider.com/2007/05/15/how-do-you-think-the-dark-portal-opened/
06:00.43[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.m.wowinsider.com/2007/05/15/offical-black-temple-trailer/
06:00.43[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.m.wowinsider.com/2007/05/15/blizzcon-will-get-back-to-the-classics/
06:01.08Sky2042those were the last links of the quest...
06:03.30Sky2042sancus
06:03.41sancus?
06:03.49Sky2042is http://www.wowhead.com/?item=24140 reusable?
06:03.52JunkHead-WorkYeah I was semi-afk and din't notice the links until after I asked.
06:03.57JunkHead-Work:P
06:04.00Sky2042;p
06:04.08Skosirishuh
06:04.15sancusno it doesnt vanish
06:04.21Sky2042cool
06:08.10Sky2042bagginsww, remind me to add the lore behind nightbane sometime
06:08.13Sky2042:)
06:11.41JunkHead-WorkAnyone here use that addon called "Grid" for raiding?
06:14.23Sky2042hmmm
06:18.32Sky2042sancus
06:18.40sancussky
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06:19.00Sky2042at what % does nightbane come out of the air? wiki says he goes up at 75/50/25...
06:19.00sancuscome out?
06:19.00sancusno %
06:19.01sancusit's a timer
06:19.11sancusyou shouldn't dps him in the air at all
06:19.12Sky20423 minutes or so?
06:19.13sancusit's bad play
06:19.17Sky2042lol
06:19.19sancusbecause as soon as he lands
06:19.20sancusit's an aggro wipe
06:19.39sancusso if you want onyxia style fun
06:19.43sancusthen dps him in the air ;p
06:19.49sancusyes
06:20.07sancusExcept of course for the shit that lands right before he comes down, dots, debuffs, etc :p
06:20.08Sky2042then that would mean that you can dps him until he hits the ground, correct?
06:20.18sancussure
06:20.32sancusalthough if you can kill all the skeletons before he comes down and dps him significantly
06:20.39sancusthen you must have a lot of dps!
06:20.39Sky2042then why can't you dps him in the air... lol
06:20.42Sky2042true
06:20.44Sky2042lol
06:21.19Sky2042do you know how long he's in the air for?
06:23.25sancusno idea
06:23.28sancusI've only done the fight once /shrug
06:23.31Sky2042lol
06:23.31sancusits not that long
06:23.34sancusa minute? 2 minutes?
06:23.40sancusmore than a minute for sure
06:23.49JunkHead-WorkLet me see if I can find some numbers for that.
06:24.12sancusmight be somewhat randomized too, dunno
06:24.26Sky2042i doubt that
06:24.27sancusWhen I did him the other day for my SSC key he came down at one point before we had killed all the skels
06:24.35sancusand we're SSC/TK-geared
06:24.39sancusexcept for me that is heh
06:24.42SkosirisCan you confirm these 2 shots?   http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30356#c0z
06:24.48SkosirisBefore/after digging
06:24.58sancusyes
06:25.03sancusalthough that before is a bad perspective imo
06:25.05sancusas they are tiny as shit
06:25.24sancusand the after thing
06:25.27sancusis like 5x bigger than them :P
06:26.43JunkHead-Workhttp://www.bosskillers.com/cgi-bin/bbguild/index.cgi?action=view_guide&guide_id=6&sid=yLiBP5GjCe
06:26.51JunkHead-WorkDoes this help?
06:27.25Sky204245 to 60 seconds: awesome
06:28.58sancushuh really
06:29.02sancusdidnt think it was that short
06:29.08sancusI should know better, really, time in combat always feels longer than it is
06:29.34sancusand he wipes aggro in the air, that makes sense
06:31.27JunkHead-WorkYeah, 45 seconds isn't long, but in combat it damn sure seems like it.
06:31.57Sky2042depends on the encounter
06:32.36JunkHead-WorkWell I've never fought Nightbane before. Highest I've been in kara was one joke attempt at Shade.
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06:37.59HJTmorning
06:38.26JunkHead-WorkHello.
06:48.13sancusit's a pretty long fight overall
06:48.15sancushe has a lot of hps heh
06:48.22sancustend to run low on mana without a spriest
06:53.57HJTany linux guys in here?
06:54.44vlad_MatthewS: how goes it?
06:57.32MatthewSsweet, 80 minutes
06:57.53vlad_elapsed? :)
06:58.02MatthewSto do the dump
07:07.04Kirkburn|afkI'm back!
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07:09.14Kirkburn|afkWhat's the current situation?
07:09.43vlad_nothing exciting, matthew's busy copying things over
07:09.46vlad_mainly a lot of waiting
07:10.12[NewsBot]GamePolitics: http://gamepolitics.com/2007/05/16/saints-row-marijuana-send-youth-on-knife-wielding-rampage-says-british-tabloid/
07:11.50Kirkburn|afkWaiting is teh bomb :P
07:12.56JunkHead-Work"After playing Saints Row on his Xbox 360 console he fetched a 12inch carving knife from the kitchen, slit both his wrists and attempted to stab himself through the chest.
07:13.03JunkHead-WorkOk so... where's the problem?
07:13.50Kirkburn|afklol, cause the database is locked, the wiki won't stop telling me I have a message!
07:14.15JunkHead-WorkThe Daily Mail reports that Dominic Anderson spent last November 13th smoking pot and playing Saints Row before going off the deep end. The 20-year-old threw himself onto cars and attacked police officers.
07:16.35JunkHead-WorkI can't wait for the day that the media reports of a "World of Warcraft related violent behavior" story.
07:16.48Kirkburn|afkI have a feeling that's the UK Daily Mail
07:16.56Kirkburn|afkIf so, you can pretty much ignore everything it says
07:17.37JunkHead-Work"In other news today, in the small town of Butte Montana, a 14 year old male ran across fields attacking cows with a plastic sword bought from walmart while screaming "LEEROY JENKINS!"
07:17.51Kirkburn|afkIt's racist, bigoted, pro-corporal punishment, anti-immigration, all that fun stuff
07:17.58JunkHead-WorkThe boy had been playing the video game "world of warcraft" for about 36 hours straight his mother claimed.
07:19.59JunkHead-WorkMother : "He doesn't eat, except only hot pockets and mountain dew, and only at his desk. He also refers to me as a wench."
07:19.59JunkHead-WorkFather: "Well, I always figgered dat the boy was a bit stupid, I ain't never in my life seen somethin so ignorant though *spits*"
07:21.53JunkHead-WorkAnd yeah Kirk, it's dailymail.co.uk
07:22.06Kirkburn|afk*shocked*
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07:22.53Bagginswwwhat is wikia?
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07:23.11JunkHead-WorkWhat I Know Is Apples.
07:23.14Kirkburn|afkBagginsww, have you completely missed the news on that front?
07:23.47Kirkburn|afkSee the VP :)
07:23.57Bagginswwya, I've been gone for a while.
07:24.26Bagginswwif it was something they thought of doing today, well I haven't looked into it LOL
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07:28.41KirkburnIRC crashed, what did I miss?
07:29.03KirkburnI was going to say the Wikia move has been on the cards for 2 weeks
07:29.06Fisker-you're pregnant
07:29.53Fisker-hmm
07:30.00KirkburnThat too
07:30.03Fisker-they changed the frontpage on blizzard.com
07:30.14Bagginswwya kirkburn I've been gone for over 2 weeks :)
07:30.29KirkburnFisker-, ooh, Diablo II
07:30.47KirkburnBagginsww, then I recommend you read up :P
07:31.27BagginswwLOL
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07:40.39Fisker-http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ravencrest&n=Colaa
07:42.17HJTso... no linux ppl here?
07:46.42Tekkubno, I don't use linux *innocent look*
07:47.16Tekkubwiki's broken!
07:47.17TekkubI can't edit!
07:47.23JunkHead-Workbrb
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07:54.14MatthewSsite's being moved
07:58.18Kirkburnzomg
08:01.19KirkburnLol - http://www.explosm.net/comics/902/
08:04.28vlad_okay, passing out
08:04.31vlad_nite!
08:04.37KirkburnG'night!
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08:14.55MatthewSnight!
08:45.03KirkburnHow goes the move, MatthewS? :)
08:45.18MatthewSjust got the db moved over, doing the images/data next
08:45.33MatthewSthat was extremely painful
08:45.47Kirkburnheh
08:45.56KirkburnWell, at least we only have 15,000 images ...
08:46.04MatthewSthe connection was stopping and starting repeatedly :(
08:46.51KirkburnAww, poor wiki is scared of leaving home!
08:48.11MatthewSit's being passive aggressive
08:57.06Kirkburnlol
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09:08.15athenawhats the time frame on database locked?
09:09.07MatthewSmaybe 2-3 more hours
09:09.58athenahehe bad timeing i normal play with wikki while servers are down :)
09:15.21TekkubKIRK!
09:15.26TekkubIcan't edit, fix it!
09:15.30KirkburnTEEEKKKKKUUUUBBBB!
09:16.05KirkburnK, uh, gimme like 2-3 hours? :)
09:16.14Tekkub:P
09:18.19MatthewSplease don't, i'll run out of willie nelson tracks to listen to tonight if you do.
09:18.22MatthewS:)
09:19.24MatthewSand then i'll have to start listening to muse.
09:20.48athenaohhh wait now that i have you guys here
09:21.36athenahttp://www.wowwiki.com/Enchanting_recipes  vs http://www.wowwiki.com/Tailoring_Patterns
09:21.50athenaif i redo tailoring to look like enchanting anyone going to mind?
09:23.13sancusthat enchanting page looks old..
09:23.36athenai think its orginsed better by skill lvl
09:23.47sancusya it is, the format is better
09:23.54sancusbut the information on that particular page is pre-bc
09:24.01sancusthose formulas wont make an enchanter rich anymore ;p
09:24.12athenatrue but i ment reoginsing tailoring to look more like the enchanting one.
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09:24.21athenayeah i was going to fix that as well :)
09:24.34athenai havent done any major edits and redoing tailoring would definatly be major
09:24.36sancusI don't see why not, although I'm not the person who will revert your edits if You're Wrong.
09:25.18athenaits going to be a lot of work to get it reverted i posted a question about it in the discussion on tailorng ages ago got no response
09:25.35KirkburnHey, I rarely revert
09:25.51athena:)
09:26.12Mikkhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Tailoring_Patterns makes zero sense to me
09:26.20athenathank you :)
09:26.20Kirkburnsancus, you can't call me the ruthless one! Hello, pot? It's kettle here! :P
09:26.29sancusoh I didn't mean you were ruthless
09:26.38KirkburnJust that I actuallly do stuff?
09:26.42MikkThe tailored sets idea is kinda... nice?  but ermm sorted by alpaha?
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09:26.44sancuscorrect
09:26.48Kirkburnheh
09:26.51MikkAnd it's horrilbly horribly out of date
09:27.30athenathe enchanting one would be nice if you could sort the table
09:27.58KirkburnYay for BC. Yay for one day making hundreds of pages out of date. Yay.
09:28.10athenano idea if you can do sort order on tables in wikki im still new to this
09:28.16MikkI still don't know if all the info in tailoring is worth the idea
09:28.20Mikkworth the work
09:28.29athena<--- nothing better to do.
09:28.39MikkI mean... just link to wowhead? :S
09:28.43sancusMikk: That's what random caring individuals are for
09:28.58MikkImport from wowhead?
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09:29.32MikkThe sets with descriptions is a nifty idea since it provides info not readily avaialble via DB sites
09:29.43MikkJust needs sane sorting (by level?)
09:29.45athenaare we allowed to do a strait import from wowhead?
09:30.02KirkburnYou would have to discuss with Skosiris
09:30.13athenamikk can you do sorting on the heading in a table? so you could sort it by skill or slot...
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09:34.45[NewsBot]MMO Champion: New items (Craft/Hyjal/TK), features, BT Trailer, and even Northrend map. - http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=192.0
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09:55.37Apollozeusrofl
09:56.02Apollozeusso I see the chat session with blizzard turned out to be a huge failure
10:00.12[NewsBot]GamePolitics: http://gamepolitics.com/2007/05/16/john-kerry-is-a-gamer/
10:00.19Slagertit's been postponed. If you describe that as failure, then yes
10:06.08Apollozeusthey were having "technical difficulties" all the way through
10:06.20ApollozeusI was there for the first 30 minutes, Netheara only introduced him/ herself
10:07.08KirkburnHerself :)
10:07.26Apollozeusmeh
10:07.32ApollozeusI never get the genders right
10:07.50KirkburnWell her avatar is only a candle, not as if those have genders :P
10:08.26sancusneeds more coreieieieieieieieieiel tbh
10:09.23BleeterKirkburn: there's definately some who'd claim that a candle is a phallic symbol and thus has gender ;)
10:10.05ApollozeusROFL
10:10.37Kirkburn"Hello, I am a fiery phallus"
10:10.49Bleeter"You'd best go see a Doctor then"
10:10.54Kirkburnheh
10:11.07KirkburnIt's a good thing Teo "Mr. Quote" myr isn't around
10:11.14Apollozeuslol
10:11.14Bleeterodd, I was only reciting Python's Medical Love Song in a different # about 30 mins ago
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10:23.59Fisker-Q&A's always
10:24.00Fisker-<PROTECTED>
10:24.24Fisker-cause the people providing the Q's always take those that even the biggest retard would know the answer to
10:25.09Tekkub:P
10:26.45Fisker-Kirkburn !
10:26.49Fisker-wtf is "wikia"? :o
10:27.15Kirkburnwtf is "google"? :o
10:27.28Bleeterwtf is wtf?
10:27.34Kirkburnwtf?
10:27.40Fisker-yeah wtf is google?
10:28.08Fisker-http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=286591262&sid=1&pageNo=2 <-:D
10:28.42Fisker-http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ravencrest&n=Colaa <-he lost his onyxia tooth pendant :(
10:29.34Kirkburnwoop
10:29.57Apollozeuslol
10:30.13[NewsBot]GamePolitics: http://gamepolitics.com/2007/05/16/newspaper-lauds-gp-readers-as-smart-we-always-knew-it/
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10:43.25[NewsBot]Kirkburn wasnt the move supposed to have happended already :S?
10:43.37KirkburnIt's going on atm
10:43.46[NewsBot]ok
10:44.55Apollozeussilence!
10:50.17[NewsBot]http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/freedesktop.html.gz
10:51.31Tekkubhey kirky, can we get rid of the spam from newsbot
10:51.50Tekkubif we want news, we can use  an RSS reader :P
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10:53.24HJTso... as it seems, patch 2.1 is coming?
10:54.15Tekkubhas been since we got 2.0.12
10:55.52HJTwell, yesterday the news on the official page (are u prepared) and now such a long maintenance (longer than expected)...
10:56.41[NewsBot]can you install a patch HJT?
10:57.20HJTwell, im at work atm
10:58.01HJTbut i have my laptop with me, but... cleaned up HD, now defraggin and then i put ubuntu on it...
10:58.44[NewsBot]well its only selcted realms that have extended
11:00.12[NewsBot]GamePolitics: http://gamepolitics.com/2007/05/16/gp-on-joystiq-the-podcast/
11:01.18HJTthen... go on the EU realm status...
11:02.08HJTuh, now all is green, maybe i got some page loadin error :s
11:02.39HJTfuckin XP-defrag takes too much time ^^
11:05.12HJTseems like clad is a workaholic... either sleepin or workin... ^^
11:06.11clad|worklol
11:07.07TekkubI'm enjoying me work ATM
11:07.22Tekkubfor some reason the CSV dump isn't working...
11:07.31Tekkuband it takes 13min for it to process all the data
11:07.35Tekkub:)
11:07.45Tekkub*tweak* *rerun* *tweak* ...
11:07.55TekkubI'm going nowhere fast
11:08.36TekkubI need a lil alret on this for when it finishes running
11:08.40Tekkub*alert
11:09.07TekkubKirk.....
11:10.12[NewsBot]GamePolitics: http://gamepolitics.com/2007/05/16/cheneys-gun-mishap-spoofed-in-halo-3-beta/
11:10.49Fisker-export in sql damnit
11:10.57TekkubKIRK!
11:11.06Kirkburnwhat?!
11:11.13TekkubAre we there yet?
11:11.36Kirkburnlol
11:16.22HJTTekkub's goin where?
11:16.31Tekkub*facepalm*
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11:19.12Absohi all
11:19.17Absoguys
11:19.19Absoi need help plz
11:19.21amrohi
11:19.27Tekkub43865 records it's testing.... he's fucking insane
11:19.39HJThi Abso
11:19.43Tekkubbut hey, 1hr to run 4 tests, I won't complain
11:19.47Tekkubgettin paid :)
11:19.51HJTso... whats ur problem, Abso?
11:19.58Absois here anyone who give me  a link to download the latest patch of wow
11:20.01Tekkubhe can't edit :)
11:20.12Tekkuboh
11:20.17Absoplz help me
11:20.17Tekkub2.0.12 or 2.1.0?
11:20.21Absoyeah
11:20.27Absois 352 mb
11:20.28Abso:(
11:20.30HJTso... there IS actually a new patch?
11:20.40Kirkburn2.1.0 is background downloading HJT
11:20.52KirkburnAbso, sounds like you want the enGB 2.1.0?
11:20.57Tekkub"yea" doesn't anser an OR statement
11:21.23Absoyes
11:21.25Kirkburnhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_mirrors
11:21.28Tekkubhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_mirrors
11:21.31Tekkubdamnit kirk
11:21.37Kirkburnhaw!
11:21.48Absolool
11:21.50Abso:)
11:21.50MatthewSanyone got a sec to help test the new server?
11:21.55MatthewSif so: http://216.151.156.11
11:21.56Kirkburnme! me!
11:22.10KirkburnWow, it looks familiar
11:22.11MatthewSit's still read-only ;)
11:22.12Absohttp://blizzpatch.com/?p=18 guys i am here
11:22.17Absois this the correct patch?
11:22.20Tekkub<PROTECTED>
11:22.24Tekkub<PROTECTED>
11:24.11MatthewS<PROTECTED>
11:24.11JunkHead-WorkI made a stinky.:(
11:24.11TekkubMediaWiki: 1.9.3 ??
11:24.11MatthewS<PROTECTED>
11:24.11KirkburnMatthewS, only thing I notice is that the front page says "Started in 2004, WoWWiki.com now has over 30,311 articles."
11:24.12Tekkubthought we were hitting 1.10 in the move
11:24.12KirkburnThe number isn't what's shown on the stats page
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11:24.12AbsoHJT
11:24.12Tekkub30753 on my main page
11:24.12laurly_afkwell i can log in what more do you want tested?
11:24.12KirkburnAh, fixed when I log in
11:24.12KirkburnThat it all works, laurly_afk? :P
11:24.17HJTyeah Abso?
11:24.26KirkburnIt's rather speedy
11:24.26laurly_afkhehe
11:24.42Tekkubthings appear okey... want an edit on a key template to see if it implodes?
11:24.48HJTMatthewS: login works
11:24.50Absoi am here http://blizzpatch.com/?p=18
11:24.55laurly_afkhttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Sorting  <--- any one know if we can do that with our tables?
11:25.00Absois this the correct?
11:25.11MatthewSok, i destroyed the Main_Page cache
11:25.27KirkburnLogged out, shows the right number :)
11:25.44HJTAbso: i dunno, as i have atm no access to a wow client ^^
11:25.50KirkburnLooks good, can't see anything wrong
11:26.03Abso:(kk tnx anw
11:26.06laurly_afkyeah looks fine here
11:26.16Absobb all
11:26.18HJTAbso: tis link u sent is US...
11:26.34Abso...
11:26.40HJTull probably need the EU patch ;)
11:26.43Absoi am from europe
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11:26.46Absolal
11:26.52KirkburnDo you run the enGB client?
11:26.53HJTas cyprus seems rather EU ;)
11:26.59AbsoHJT can u find me a link?
11:27.00KirkburnIf so, *look at the enGB column!*
11:27.10Kirkburnhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_mirrors <--
11:27.11Tekkub"GB" big letters, lots of em
11:27.24HJTseems im too slow ^^
11:28.22Absohttp://www.filesforplayers.com/comment.php?dlid=29 here is the correct i think!!!
11:28.25HJTwhy is defragment such a SLOW operation? :(
11:28.42KasoCos it has to move around virtually every block of data on your hard drive?
11:29.18Bleeter'coz defragging's soo last century tech :P
11:29.31Bleeterheck, I think it was out of date even before MS was founded
11:29.33TekkubHJT, I dunno, ever picked up a 5000 piece puzzle, dumped the pieces in the floor, then put the puzzle together one piece at a time, placing each piece directly into the correct spot?
11:29.38HJTi know that all, but its still BOOOOOOORIN ;)
11:29.39laurly_afkdefraging wasnt that bad when you only had a 800mb HD.
11:29.44amroahh defrag, the old windows days
11:30.04AbsoHJT i am here http://www.filesforplayers.com/comment.php?dlid=29
11:30.19Kasodefragging can still bring some performance gains... sorta
11:30.32HJTeeeewwwww, 800Mb??? that was much when i started computin ;)
11:30.38amroonly if your disk fragmented to hell to begin with
11:30.38Bleeterdefrag -> What MS make users do 'coz they write shitty DFS'
11:30.45Absono its 352.2 mb
11:30.50Tekkubdefrag's like that x50 per GiB
11:31.26HJTits probably my last defrag, i do it just to have space for another partition to put an ubuntu on it
11:31.32Tekkub800 MiB?  When I started it was 5" floppies, we later upgraded to a 20MiB HDD
11:31.42HJTand if all works fine, i gonna kick windumb
11:31.52Tekkububuntu FTW!
11:31.52Absobb all tnx for help
11:31.53laurly_afki remember 5 1/2 floppies....
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11:32.09JunkHead-WorkI do too.
11:32.09laurly_afkremember punch cards Tekkub?
11:32.11Tekkubmy only problem with ubu.... WoW :)
11:32.14JunkHead-WorkBut I didn't own a PC back then.
11:32.25Tekkubnever did the pain of punch cards :)
11:32.30KirkburnMatthewS, so what happens now? :)
11:32.47laurly_afkme neither my mom gave me one i use it as a book mark :)
11:32.54Tekkubheh
11:33.07MatthewSdns propagates and i install some nifty IP redirects
11:33.17laurly_afkhttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Sorting <--- can we use that on our tables (wiki newbie here)
11:33.18TekkubMW 1.10?
11:33.24TekkubCSS pages?
11:33.30TekkubJavascript?  *jizz*
11:34.08laurly_afktables sorting is good.
11:34.32Tekkubtable sorting could really help with elinks
11:34.40Tekkubnice noone can seem to do it on their own
11:34.42HJTcss... well, if it must be... but javascript is definitly weird... ok, as long as it isnt java... ;)
11:35.11KirkburnStay a while and listen! http://www.blizzard.com/splash_diablo2.shtml
11:35.22laurly_afkim to new at this to have any idea how to do it. it apears to be some class module im still trying to figure out templates:)
11:35.38KirkburnWe don't have the ability ... yet
11:35.46laurly_afki like the "yet"
11:36.07Kirkburnheh
11:36.23HJTas long as it causes less problems than advantages...
11:37.45MatthewSwow...no one honors the 10 ttl on this dns entry...
11:37.47laurlywell it beets ading a note at the bottom saying "For a complete sortable list with reagents, effects, and selling guide, go to:
11:37.48laurly<PROTECTED>
11:38.19laurlyfound that note at the bottom of http://www.wowwiki.com/Alchemy :(
11:39.17laurlyis the DB still locked?
11:39.30Kirkburnyup
11:39.54KirkburnMatthewS, what does that mean?
11:40.23MatthewSi set the dns entry for www.wowwiki.com to refresh after 10 minutes
11:40.34MatthewSbut it's not mandatory for people to do it
11:40.38MatthewSso most don't
11:42.50Kasowowwiki.wikia.com - "The URL you entered points to a Wikia that does not exist" :<
11:45.41MatthewSfixed
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11:46.41laurlyim bored... no heroics cant edit wowwikki... what else is there
11:48.05Fisker-transfer a lot of money to me
11:48.15Fisker-i accept paypal
11:48.37laurlycant i just took my daugher downtow she spent it all
11:50.27Fisker-too soon laurly!
11:50.28Tekkubmy cat's insane
11:50.29Fisker-TOO SOON
11:50.37Fisker-nah mine is :(
11:50.49Tekkubwhen she runs up the stairs she always runs to the last step then jumps thru thebanister
11:50.54laurlymy dog and your cat must be friends
11:56.18HJTi just found one aspect why GW is better than WoW: in the filesys, GW is one big file ;)
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11:58.17RoadToDeathhi there
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11:58.28HJThi RoadToDeath
11:59.24RoadToDeathi wana ask u guys i just saw parts of  Nogg-aholic the Movie anyone have a torrent or a direct link for it
12:00.12[NewsBot]GamePolitics: http://gamepolitics.com/2007/05/16/news-of-v-tech-rampage-crosses-over-to-mainstream-media/
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12:00.22HJTthe onyl torrets we have in here r the patch files for the blizzloader ^^
12:02.12HJTok, not even these we really have ^^
12:02.12HJTbut hey, google knows!
12:02.12RoadToDeathoh k ^^ thx anyway im tired of looking for this movie torrent coz it rocks
12:02.12RoadToDeaththx guys cya
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12:07.50MatthewShow's things look to people now?
12:08.12Tekkub... the same?
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12:08.21Tekkubwhat changed? :)
12:08.25MatthewSthat's perfect!
12:08.53MatthewSchanged some firewall stuff to redirect traffic from the old box to the new one
12:09.14Tekkubhttp://216.151.156.11/Race
12:09.22Tekkubthat picture is fucked up
12:09.34Tekkubat least they got the good part of the tauren
12:09.41[NewsBot]Blizzplanet: The Road to Blizzard Invitationals - Day 4 - http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=1357
12:09.49laurlyLOL
12:09.58Tekkubs/good/best/
12:10.10Tekkuball the parts is good
12:18.57HJTso, defraggin finished, ubuntu, im comin!
12:20.41MatthewSread-only is off...
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12:24.22w0nderhey peeps Noob here. I just want a strat to put my talent points in. I'm lvl 21 and my 12 talent points have not been used because I dont have a strat to follow :P I dont trust myself. Help anyone?
12:24.42KasoWhat class are you?
12:25.08HJTw0nder: class, preferences?
12:25.39w0nderworlock
12:25.44w0nderumm no preferences
12:25.50w0nderI heard Not many people do demonology
12:25.57w0nderso I think affliction and destruction
12:26.11HJTok... then theres mainly 2 things: affliction or demonology
12:26.25w0nderdestruction not an option?
12:26.46HJTas we discussed in my guild not (for levelin purpose)
12:27.16w0nderokay
12:27.31HJTaffliction is a bit harder to play, or so to say a bit more complex, while demonology is easier but it may take u longer to bring down a mob
12:27.32w0nderso do i choose either affliction or demonology? or both?
12:27.44Kasoimo affliction is better at low levels
12:27.55Kasostart off something like ; http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=IVMr
12:28.14HJTmy girlfriend goes for affliction, and in my guild we say affliction > rest
12:28.23w0nderso everything into affliction?
12:28.28w0nderno spreading of talent points?
12:28.42Kasoyes
12:28.53w0nderOh
12:28.56HJTi say at least the first 51 points in 1 tree
12:29.07Kasomainly people have majority in one tree then a few in another, but dont branch til you get high level
12:29.09w0nderI can only lvl up to 60
12:29.11Kasoas HJT says
12:29.13w0nderprivate server
12:29.29HJTuh
12:29.34w0nderwill that be a problem :D?
12:29.49Kasoyou shouldnt really tell us that.
12:30.06w0nderokay
12:30.18amroit's sort of illegal and all that.
12:30.30HJTagree @ amro
12:30.46w0nderillegal :s
12:31.05w0nderwhats the highest lvl u can get up to?
12:31.23Kaso70 if you have the burning crusade and play properly.
12:31.35w0nderokay
12:32.04w0nderi cant privatemsg anyone oh no
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12:33.06AdysSoo, any news?
12:33.35amrow0nder: you need to register
12:34.11w0nderokay
12:34.24w0nderaffliction only yeah?
12:34.32w0nderand only branch out when higher lvls?
12:34.39w0nderlets say lvl 35? o4 50?
12:34.44w0nder40*
12:36.51KirkburnAdys any news on what?
12:36.59KirkburnThe fact that we're on the new server?
12:37.06Fisker-i hate your deviation to wikia Kirkburn :(
12:37.13AdysYeah
12:37.17KirkburnUh, why?
12:37.24Adysis it done now?
12:37.32Fisker-btw
12:37.35Fisker-on the blizzard page
12:37.46Fisker-every game besides Starcraft show the original game
12:37.52Fisker-whereas the starcraft one is Brood Wars
12:38.05KirkburnThat's cause the normal box is shite?
12:38.18AdysFisker-: dont bother, they are not just gonna give hints here and there to "let people know in advance"
12:38.24Fisker-:(
12:38.25Adysthey just.. wont do that
12:38.29Adysbecause its pointless
12:38.35Tekkubhrm... my ubuntu box feels rather lacking in programs
12:38.37Fisker-i thought they were funny!
12:39.24KasoTekkub install some more!
12:39.24Fisker-http://www.blizzard.com/splash_omfgnewgameawesome.shtml <-doesn't work :(
12:39.34Tekkubdon't know what to install though
12:39.43Kasowell what cant you do that you'd like to do
12:39.52KirkburnLol, I just got randomly given a +16 agil ring :P Pity I can't use it for 10 levels
12:40.04Fisker-i want to know what teh new game is :(
12:40.15Fisker-although it's obviously Starcraft 2 because of the previous hints
12:40.46Adyshttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=31953
12:40.49Adyswatcha think bout that
12:41.09Tekkubwhy aren't we on the wiki main page?:)
12:41.27Tekkub*wikia
12:41.44AdysDid we move to wikia already or is it still in progress?
12:41.57Kasoseems unlocked to me...
12:42.14Adysit is, but i dont see the google adds ont he right
12:44.36TekkubI don't see an ads either *grin*
12:44.59MatthewSyou don't?
12:45.09Kirkburn(adblocker)
12:45.17Tekkub<PROTECTED>
12:45.19KirkburnAdys, yes, it's moved
12:45.32KirkburnMoved =/= upgraded, changed
12:45.38Adysok
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12:45.43[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/16/afk-a-sec-guys-wife-aggro/
12:45.43Tekkubupgrades now!
12:45.46KirkburnIt just means we're on the new servers :P
12:46.01Tekkubseriously, make newbot go away
12:46.05KasoShould i continue on botting
12:46.11Adysyeeeeeesss, kaso
12:46.14KirkburnNuh-huh Tek :( I like it
12:46.21KasoAdys, what did you want adding i forget?
12:46.24Tekkubget a damn RSS reader kirk
12:46.25KirkburnYeah, the bot should have a much nicer time
12:46.29KirkburnI have one!
12:46.37AdysKaso, a private message system
12:46.42Tekkubuse it, get rid of the channel spam
12:46.59Kasoofc
12:47.10Adys1/ Warnings by irc PM when the bot completed a requested task
12:47.34HJTin times of 'no1 saying anything' at least [NewsBot] says sometimes something...
12:47.36Adys'successfully processed 12345, failed to process 12345, resumed bot after 5 mins pause' etc
12:47.55AdysKeep the rest in the irc chan tho
12:48.03Tekkubsingle item requests should happen asap :)
12:48.08AdysAye
12:48.29Tekkuband  yea, with a tell when they're done
12:48.43Adyswell I guess you should be able to lower the editing wait
12:48.56Adysso the queue shouldnt really be that long
12:49.43Adyshttp://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/16/afk-a-sec-guys-wife-aggro/ the pic is awful
12:49.58Adyshttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=31953
12:53.04KirkburnAdys, http://wowwiki.wikia.com/
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12:54.26Kirkburnhttp://icanhascheezburger.com/2007/05/16/plz-no-insert-battreez/
12:54.53Apollozeusrofl
12:54.58Apollozeuswife aggro XD
12:59.27Kasopoor kitty
13:00.31KirkburnHmm, has the wiki's server time changed?
13:00.36KirkburnI had to add an extra hour
13:01.51KirkburnMatthewS, is the rest of the day going to be spent monitoring the server, or are more changed incoming?
13:01.56HJTarg, my ubuntu wont resize existing partitions :s
13:03.12KirkburnArgh, I need to do a project - gotta design a retail store for 2027
13:03.22KirkburnI have no inspiration!
13:03.51MatthewSwas a time issue, just fixed it.
13:04.21Kirkburnlol, I see the RC list just leapt an hour :P
13:04.33KirkburnTa
13:04.35MatthewS:)
13:04.46MatthewSsorry, meant to do that yesterday, slipped my mind.
13:04.52MatthewSthere's one more coming though
13:04.55MatthewSto adjust to UTC
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13:05.41KirkburnAnything else coming today - keep getting asked if 1.10 is coming today, etc, etc :P
13:05.44[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/16/wow-moviewatch-shaman-protest-its-the-end-of-the-world-as-we/
13:07.00MatthewSi think 1.10 will have to wait a couple of days still.
13:07.44MatthewSi'd rather not tempt fate too much by moving the site and upgrading the s/w all at once
13:07.46MatthewS:)
13:11.18KirkburnSeems fair to me :)
13:14.35KirkburnWoah - this is the wikipedia copyvio notice - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Per-Arne_Berglie
13:20.18KirkburnKaso, heard about the BBC vs Scientology thing going on?
13:20.47Slagertaye, was on /. earlier this week.. or was it the register?
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13:22.01KasoI saw watch the program and ive seen the parts of the Scientology video, but to be honest the bbc aint gonna get their reputation ruined by some Scientology propaganda, if anything what the scientologists are doing enforces the negative image of them that the documentary portrayed
13:22.26KirkburnSlagert, it's been everywhere - Scientologists are doing their best to drum up business
13:23.05KirkburnI think the BBC has taken a good approach to it all - they're not denying it happened, nor attempting to block it being shown
13:23.16Slagertyeah the journalist apologised for the outburst I think - but sticks with his opinion about CoS
13:23.26KirkburnIt's comes up several times on the BBC blogs too - http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/
13:23.28Slagert(CoS not being Cloak of Shadows ^^)
13:23.36Kirkburnlol
13:24.01AdysCoS is useless
13:24.05AdysCoE > *
13:24.08KasoI love the way the scientologists are trying to make a big thing of the shouting when infact both of them were shouting at each other. its not like sweeny just let off with no provcation
13:24.13AdysHaw Haw Haw. sorry
13:24.22KasoQuiet you mage!
13:24.36Kasocurse of shadows owns!
13:26.07Fisker-ward of waking sounds interresting :P
13:27.01HJTsilence and i have 6secs to run ^^
13:27.17KasoThe bit near the start when they come back to the hotel and Scientology guy is waiting, and he like takes the scientolgists mic and does a little "interview" finishing with how creepy it is to have them show up at his hotel even though they told noone where they were staying, that was the most powerful scene in the documentary imo Kirkburn
13:27.46KirkburnI'm watching excerpts on youtube atm ... might see about getting the full thing l8r
13:28.05Kasolemme just get you a clip of this, its quite amusing
13:28.42Kasook, its about 20 seconds into this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0UZ7xeni28
13:28.56Kaso20sec - > 1min
13:28.59Kasovery amusing
13:35.43[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/16/blizzpagewatch-day-4/
13:38.18Fisker-ah
13:38.20Fisker-Scientology <3
13:42.23HJTi absolutely dislike sientology...
13:42.50HJTs/sientotlogy/Scientology
13:42.59HJTs/sientology/Scientology
13:43.34HJTs/sientology/Scientology/
13:43.45HJTstupid commands ^^
13:44.24Slagertghehe - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6650545.stm - he's got a pretty good side of the story as well there =)
13:46.27HJTs/installes/installer/
13:47.09HJT~infobot
13:47.20infobothjt, i love abuse, feed me!
13:47.21[NewsBot][NewsBot] > infobot
13:47.51HJT~cookie to infobot
13:48.59HJTcan some1 please buy some new cookies for infobot? ^^
13:49.46KirkburnI need inspiration for what a retails store would be like in 2027!
13:49.50Kirkburn*retail
13:50.07Kirkburne.g. parking? energy usage? etc
13:50.31Kaso"not as different as people would think" is my imagenation
13:50.45KirkburnYeah, there would still be cars, for example
13:50.53Kasoperhaps cars banned from cities.
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13:51.02KirkburnTrue very true
13:51.34Kasoperhaps very little/no real money
13:52.29HJTim not too sure about that money thing
13:52.48Kasowhy not?
13:53.14KirkburnPerhaps there would be a reduction in required floor space as more and more stuff is bought at home
13:53.47KirkburnTherefore a retail store is more likely to have non-retail stuff added to encourage visitors - e.g. children's play areas, lakes
13:54.16KirkburnIt's weird to think about the future ...
13:55.30HJTyeah, i live prolly too much in the moment for that ^^
13:56.44HJTnow > today > tomorrow > yesterday > all other time ^^
13:57.32KirkburnI even have to name the damn thing :/
13:58.13HJTKirkburn: btw, ur doin what when ur not wow'in?
13:58.21KirkburnCivil Engineering
13:58.26Kirkburn(uni)
13:58.42HJTaha
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13:59.48Fisker-O_o
14:00.16Kirkburno_O
14:01.13Fisker-wtf is the chief of police doing promoting scientology? :o
14:02.36KasoOpening a new building isnt quite promoting
14:03.17Fisker-any officials have nothing to do in it
14:03.19Fisker-regardless
14:03.56KirkburnI wonder if it would be possible to ban Scientologists from this channel? :P
14:04.11Fisker-use the e-meter omg
14:04.18KasoYou'd be a religous biggot kirkburn!
14:04.25Kirkburnnah, just a bigot
14:04.25Kasowhat are you crimes!
14:04.41KirkburnA cult bigot perhaps
14:05.37Kirkburn*pretends to flick a switch*
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14:05.48KirkburnHobinheim, 1
14:05.50Kirkburn!
14:06.01Hobinheimmorning, Kirkburn
14:06.10KirkburnTested out the wiki today?
14:06.15Hobinheimno sir, i have not
14:06.26Hobinheimbut i do see the move is complete
14:06.28Hobinheimninja, as i like
14:06.48KirkburnY'know, Tommy Davis really reminds me of Tom Cruise.
14:06.57KirkburnHobinheim, :D
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14:07.10Hobinheimwho tf is faulkner?
14:07.31KirkburnGood question?
14:07.48KirkburnWe've been discussing Scientology btw
14:07.59Kasowhen they ask the "what are your crimes question" i always want to ask back:
14:08.03Hobinheimgoons have a no-scientology rule
14:08.04Kasowhat are yours? aside from; abuse and neglect of a disabled adult and practising medicine without a license, obstructing justice, burglary of government offices, and theft of documents and government property
14:08.18Hobinheimor at least they don't take kindly to it
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14:08.22Kirkburn>_<
14:08.26Hobinheimhatering scientology is the flavor of the week
14:08.42Hobinheimpersonally, i'm scared of it. but also curious
14:08.43KirkburnHobinheim, have you seen the BBC doc that set off the latest "war"
14:08.48Hobinheimit's sort of admirable how large they've become
14:08.51Hobinheimno i have ont
14:08.52Hobinheim*not
14:08.56KirkburnStarts here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6J8-Zfzd55E
14:08.59KasoYoutube!
14:09.01Kirkburn(4 parts)
14:09.16Hobinheimyay the domain name stayed
14:09.21Hobinheimhiyo to google ranks not moving!!!
14:09.25Kirkburnheh
14:09.30Hobinheimthat was my main concern
14:09.35KirkburnThere's one part of the video which the Scientologists have seized on where the BBC journy semi-loses it
14:09.39KasoHobinheim, whats your take on arnie-lerma ?
14:09.40Hobinheimif not for your sake, for your daughter's sake, and her google search results
14:09.41[NewsBot]Blizzplanet: Why could it be Starcraft 2, Warcraft 4 or Diablo 3? - http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=1358
14:09.51KirkburnBut once you see the context, it's not surprising
14:16.22Fisker-lol
14:16.42Fisker-then out of nowhere he comes to an interview and says the guy he's interviewing having a criminal record
14:16.44Fisker-fucking awesome
14:16.57Kirkburnheh
14:17.23KasoMy fav bit is 1min into video 2 at the hotel
14:17.30KasoIf that scene were a human i'd marry it
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14:20.29Bagginswwscientology, whee... LOL
14:21.12BagginswwPraise be to the bomb, ;)
14:21.32Fisker-where the video with sweeney screaming? :O
14:22.35Kasoits in the third segment of the panorama i think
14:23.29Kasounlike the cut-up scientology version which removes the huge triade the scientology person was throwing an sweeney that caused the outburst :>
14:23.56BagginswwHowever, the keyword here is "postponed". That means production was halted and will resume development at a later date.
14:23.59Slagertgoogle is rather forgiving if you use proper 301's btw (when moving domains)
14:24.07Fisker-oh
14:24.11BagginswwYou know I"ve seen quite a few games over the years that were said to be "postponed"
14:24.19Bagginswwand have been "postponed" for years :p
14:24.29Bagginswwand will never see the light of day :p
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14:24.45Bagginswwnot counting Duke Nuke Forever :p
14:24.57BagginswwWhich I still question :p
14:25.33Fisker-that was awesome
14:25.48Fisker-"Do you listen to me now?" :D
14:27.28Fisker-could've been longer though :o
14:31.52Bagginswwwow that cut-off letter was creepy
14:42.45amroBagginsww: I suspected DNF was a joke, but they actually spent time developing it
14:44.28BagginswwDNF?
14:44.47dottedduke nuken forever
14:45.20Bagginswwoh ya
14:45.35Bagginswwwell it was developed at one time
14:46.04Bagginswwbut graphically it was so outdated by the time it came around to its first "release" announcement
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14:46.24Bagginswwso they decided to extend its release date, and have been doing that for years LOL
14:46.46Bagginswwbut most people including me, are very doubtful it will ever be released
14:47.34Bagginswwmore they try to "update it" if they are really updating it, its at such a slow pace it will never be up to modern standards.
14:48.57Hobinheimis there an azerothian version of scientology?
14:49.06Hobinheimsome sort of illogical goblin religion
14:49.13Kasoha ha
14:49.16Hobinheimtinkerology
14:49.29Bagginswwlol
14:49.44Hobinheimfounded in 1873 by Spark Widdlecrank himself
14:49.47KasoWell the goblin engineering thing where you have to re-buy your subscription is similar for the "taking all your money" thing
14:50.16Bagginswwprobably L-rod Hubcrank
14:50.26Hobinheimthere should be higher levels of ascension for obscene amounts of money
14:50.34HobinheimElite Level 60 Operating Tinkerologist
14:50.52Kasohaha
14:51.09Hobinheimalthough currently deceased, L-rod Hubblecrank is the only recognized Skull Boss Tinkerologist
14:51.10Bagginswwdon't you have to rebuy your "subscription" for the gnomes too?
14:51.52Hobinheimthe most famous Tinkerologist NPC to date is the formerly great engineer cum actor, Com Truise
14:52.01BagginswwLOL
14:53.19Bagginswwor Travolt-meter
14:53.28HobinheimTinkerologists have been known for their aggressive tactics. Ganking those who oppose them and setting up repairbots to take money but not actually do the repairs
14:53.50HobinheimTinkerology is not a recognized primary profession
14:53.58Hobinheimsome believe it is a subsect of Engineering
14:54.33Hobinheimthe Azerothian Profession Council begs to differ, in their seminal 1998 report, "Tinkerology, Can't Drop It Because You Can't Train It"
14:54.40Kasoyou should make a {{silly}} article about it think :>
14:55.19Hobinheimdespite lacking the formal categorization of Tinkerology, numerous "churches" of Tinkerology exist in many different areas of Azeroth, offering trainers and housing to welcome new and old members alike
14:55.50Hobinheimit's been speculated that Illidan himself is a large proponent of Tinkerology
14:56.52BagginswwBattlefield Azeroth: Saga of the 20th century (in reference to the mysterious 20th century mentioned in the bone wastes)
14:57.43Bagginswwpopular book by L-rod himself, and soon to be a major event, of gnome-vision
14:58.19Hobinheimi guess we really should make a silly article out of it
14:58.20Bagginswwstarring Juan Travolt-meter
14:58.24Hobinheimbut what's silly?
14:58.29HobinheimTinkerology is serious
14:58.40Hobinheimdo you know how many player characters have lost their lives to this cult?
14:58.54Kasohaha
14:59.00Bagginswwonly problem you'll bring in the scientologists to start vandalizing our site, :)
14:59.25Bagginswwwe can't talk negatively about Tinkerology
15:00.29Bagginswwalso there are a few competing belief systems, the hollow-azerothers (I'm one, its true, azeroth is hollow)
15:01.07Bagginswwflat-azerothers, beware if you go too far you'll fall off the edge of azeroth.
15:01.21KasoClearly azeroth is flat.
15:01.24Bagginswwoh ya flat-outlanders, I'm sure all people believe that
15:01.30Kaydeethreebut... but... you will fall off of azeroth if you go too far
15:01.39Bagginswwheh heh
15:01.51BagginswwI've fallen through the world a few times, blinking
15:01.57Hobinheimi've seen the world's end
15:01.59Bagginswwso its hollow
15:01.59HobinheimI'VE SEEN IT!
15:02.07Kaydeethreeugh. I remember those days
15:02.07Bagginswwheh heh
15:02.25HobinheimTHERE'S AN INVISIBLE WALL
15:02.26Bagginswwthose days still occasionally occur
15:02.26Kaydeethreeblinking towards the tunnel in wsg... splat
15:02.26Bagginswwin a few places
15:02.26Hobinheimthey're trying ot keep us here... :ninja:
15:02.26laurlydb unlocked?
15:02.26Kasoits quite simple, the maelstrom produces thousands of gallons of water a min, to replace the water that disapears off the edge of the world as it falls into the twisting nether
15:02.36Bagginswwyep
15:02.42Kasolaurly,
15:02.46Kasoyes
15:02.51laurlywoot!
15:03.02Bagginswwthe other side of the planet isn't really I tell you... Those islands don't exist
15:03.08Bagginsww*really there
15:03.16Kasowhich islands?
15:03.30Bagginswwin refrence to the globes you can find in in the world
15:03.37Bagginswwbackside of them show a few islands
15:03.43Kasohmm, never seen one of those
15:03.52Bagginswwthey are in quite a few inns
15:04.01Kasoill take a look
15:04.05Bagginswwalso watch the intro movie
15:04.09Bagginswwit rotates too
15:04.20Kaydeethreethe only globes I've ever seen are at the end of the intro movies. if you look close you'll see it go from kalimdor -> northrend -> EK -> kalimdor again
15:04.20Bagginswwthe globe in the "World of Warcraft symbol" I mean
15:04.42Bagginswwthere is a blank space in between
15:04.49Bagginswwof solid blue
15:05.24Bagginswwat least in the original verison of the video if they didn't change it for expansion
15:05.30KasoThe Intro movie looks funny on linux :<
15:05.33Kasohalf of it is cut off
15:05.37Bagginswwahh
15:05.38Kaydeethreejust watch it in mplayer
15:05.43[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/16/will-blizzards-spam-stopper-really-work/
15:05.51amroKaso: ah, so im not the only one with that problem :)
15:06.13amroyou can watch it fine in d3d mode
15:06.24BagginswwOh ya hobin remember that religion that believed they were going tobe picked up by a comet?
15:06.26Kaydeethreemeh, I've never bothered to try to run wow in d3d mode
15:06.32Kaydeethree<PROTECTED>
15:07.05Bagginswwrosicrucianism kind of strange too
15:08.00Kaydeethreeheh, I'll be damned. got past the login screen. let's see what kind of framerate I get in shattrath
15:08.13Kaydeethree2x mouse cursor is annoying, though
15:11.05Kasoi remeber last time i tried d3d i crashed moments after login
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15:12.35Kaydeethreemeh. got in to the gameworld just fine, but a jerky ~6fps isn't very cool
15:18.30BagginswwWell buddy you got it, right her right now, I'm angry,real angry"
15:18.34Bagginswwroffle
15:18.42BagginswwYou won't like me when I'm angry
15:18.45Bagginswwheh heh
15:18.56Bagginswwhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Po3tPLba9jE&mode=related&search=
15:19.24amroKaydeethree: d3d mode is useful for changing settings if you don't want to fiddle with .wtf files
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15:21.14Kasohmm wine doesnt like wow model viewer >.<
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15:22.59tispewheres rich adamantite?
15:22.59equiraptormapwow.com should have it.
15:22.59equiraptorhttp://www.wowhead.com/?object=181569 So should that.
15:23.35Kaydeethreeamro; meh. I've just got the mod "ApplyToForehad". it nulls-out the three api calls that break wow on linux
15:24.13tispeso i guess nagrand is the bess place
15:24.29equiraptorThe comments seem to suggest shadowmoon valley.
15:24.29tispenagrand feels mad big and i'm farming for my epic flying lol
15:24.55tispemapwow doesn't have any outland ores
15:25.06tispeim hoping for somehting that i can just fly in circles
15:25.09equiraptorReally? The last time I checked it had outland herbs...
15:25.27equiraptorCheck the comments on WoWHead. They say you can fly in circles in one spot in shadowmoon.
15:27.18tispei guess im off to Netherwing ledge ^_^
15:29.01tispeits gonna suck though im all the way up in Area 52
15:29.20Kaydeethreehop on the bird and go get some food for ~7-8m?
15:29.29foxlitJust point epic mount in the right direction
15:29.46tispeKaydeethree: i suppose
15:29.51tispefoxlit: what do you think im farming for
15:30.38foxlitWhat?!
15:30.45foxlitYou're not farming flasks for tonight's RAID?!
15:31.13Kaydeethreemeh. we got mag down yesterday. it's all non-flask farm stuff for us tonight
15:31.34foxlitGo do Eye.
15:31.36Kaydeethreetomorrow/sunday, on the other hand
15:31.53Kaydeethreemeh. we've got maybe 3 guildies keyed because we're all being lazy and haven't done the trials quests
15:32.22foxlitUnacceptable, I say!
15:32.35Kaydeethreewe're not really that worried, we've still gotta kill hydross
15:33.33tispewow...my guild is working through Khara still
15:34.05tispewe used to only get up to Moroes...but we split off and become a hardcore raid guild so everyones attitudes are more focused
15:34.11tispenow we're up to Shade i believe
15:34.19tispelast night we got through Opera
15:34.28Kaydeethreehttp://shadeofaranchant.ytmnd.com
15:34.57tispelol
15:35.10tispei made that mistake when we tried Shade
15:36.00tispelets just say i wasn't really paying attention to the Strat
15:36.54foxlitBut you can move during that spell :/
15:36.54Kaydeethreeas long as you don't cross the flames
15:39.27tispei saw fire so i was like "SHIT I GOTTA GTFO OF HERE!!!!!! ZOMG EVERYONE IS DEAD! QUICK DI....NEVERMIND"
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15:57.10Hobinheimhey
15:57.18Hobinheimis there any practical reason to keep 1.0 macros and documentation around
15:57.22Hobinheimor should we pretend they don't exist
15:57.29Hobinheimin the practical sense, it might just confuse players
15:57.38Hobinheimbut in the historical sense, it's nice to know where we came from
15:57.50amromark them as ol
15:57.52amroold*
15:57.56Hobinheimi guess we could just delete all the old macros themselves and then just write a little didy about them
15:57.56amrolike the old honor page
15:58.44tispeamro i thought you meant "mark them as lol"
15:58.45Hobinheimugly old honor page
16:00.21Hobinheimbesides mount rotation, why would anyone use cast random?
16:00.43[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/16/bigredkitty-five-of-the-top-ten-things-every-class-should-know/
16:00.55amrofireworks?
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16:02.42Adyshey teo
16:02.48Teomyrhey
16:04.53Kaydeethreehob: polymorph
16:05.07Kaydeethreerogues refusing to give up SS/riposte macros
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16:05.37Fisker-oh hi i just upgraded your ram
16:07.48equiraptorhttp://xkcd.com/c262.html
16:09.18amroxkcd is awesome
16:09.42[NewsBot]Blizzplanet: Starcraft Patch 1.15 Released! - http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=1359
16:11.15Kaydeethreeoh, that reminds me. /checks blizzard.com
16:11.52Hobinheimwell... point is... cast random is only used for cosmetic things
16:11.57HobinheimPolyrandom
16:12.01HobinheimMountrandom
16:12.04Hobinheimbut nothing truly...
16:12.06Hobinheimfunctional
16:12.09Kaydeethreeya
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16:14.21tispeHobinheim: why are you dwelling on this?
16:14.26tispejust let it go lol
16:15.59Hobinheim~hobinheim
16:16.13infobotyou are, like, a goon wannabe
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16:17.03Hobinheimwtf
16:17.08Hobinheiminfobot, literal hobinheim
16:17.14infobot"hobinheim" is "a goon wannabe"
16:17.19Hobinheimgrrr
16:17.22Hobinheimwho changed it!
16:18.38Devilkoulhah
16:20.39KirkburnGuess how much rep I've gained with Darnassus via quests in the last 2 1/2 hours :)
16:22.19amroOVER 9000?!
16:22.24Devilkoul9000!!!!
16:22.41Devilkoulyou looking to save some C on repairs/flights?
16:22.52KasoSo theres a bunch of "travellers" on my uni's rugby pitches
16:23.36Kirkburn8485 rep so far actually
16:24.11amrocome back when you've got over 9000
16:24.30KirkburnWhen I hit that, I'll be exalted :P
16:25.31Kirkburn19255/21000 atm :)
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16:32.26Hobinheim~jobqueue
16:32.38infobot!jobqueue
16:32.42[NewsBot]The job queue length is currently 143
16:34.58Fisker-"omgomg the new game is starcraft 2 "
16:35.25KirkburnFisker-, omg omg omg wot?
16:35.28Kirkburnhttp://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=5104778 <-- awww
16:35.34Fisker-because of patch 1.15!1
16:36.02foxlitWhy?
16:36.05KirkburnDidn't that come out about a month ago?
16:36.35Hobinheim!jobqueue
16:36.37[NewsBot]The job queue length is currently 575
16:37.00KirkburnWhat you doing?
16:37.14Hobinheimi keep fixing template:socket cuz i keep breaking it
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16:38.55Hobinheimman we should come up with something for server templates
16:39.08Hobinheimeditors are just going crazy and creating like.... not so wiki-wide templates
16:39.18foxlitLet 'em, imo
16:39.19Hobinheimoh well w/e
16:39.35Hobinheimlocal templates are wacky anyway
16:39.36foxlitThough they should probably not do it in Template: namespace
16:39.48Hobinheimtransclusions that aren't in that namespace get hairy
16:39.51Hobinheimand are hard to use
16:40.10foxlit[[Server:Emerald Dream Europe]]
16:46.51KirkburnWoot, that's Teldrassil done ... I need 775 rep more for my saber :D
16:47.18KirkburnI've run out of IF rep places though ... need 3700 from them. Any idea where IF rep could come from?
16:50.36amroI think Wildhammer rep spills over
16:51.02LorimI would just go look up IF rep quests and see what you haven't done. /shurg thats what I do.
17:01.10KaydeethreeAV
17:01.25Kaydeethreejust spend a few rounds of AV doing the turnin quests at DB
17:02.22LorimThat gives IF Rep?
17:03.31Kaydeethreeand spillover rep with the other 4 factions
17:03.42Kaydeethreeit's how people got to exodar exalted before the release of BC
17:03.53LorimAh, I see.
17:04.13LorimThats good to know for next time. Though I'm trying to stay away from BGs now that i'm finally gone from a pvp server
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17:06.22KirkburnI'm avoiding getting rep from BGs
17:06.29KirkburnPlus I'm level 40
17:09.42[NewsBot]Blizzplanet: World of Warcraft on OQO Model 02 Mobile - http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=1360
17:14.06vlad_yay, all wikia'd I think
17:14.09vlad_server-wise anyway
17:14.19Devilkouloh nice
17:14.45TecnoBratawesome vlad_
17:15.48TecnoBratare the old severs totally taken down then?
17:16.17KirkburnSingular :P
17:16.17vlad_not yet, not until DNS propagates completely
17:16.22vlad_yeah, singular
17:16.28Kirkburnheh
17:16.28TecnoBratoh right, haha
17:17.05TecnoBratthe old server is in read only mode tho yea?
17:17.09Kirkburnvlad_, all went quite smoothly (from out point of view)
17:17.12Kirkburn*our
17:17.16TecnoBratI'm just curious if I am on the old or the new one
17:17.40Kirkburn6 hours lock time, then unlocked without any problems
17:17.45vlad_TecnoBrat: no, you'll always get the new one
17:17.48vlad_but you might be routed through the old one
17:17.53vlad_(network-wise)
17:18.04KirkburnTry wowwiki.wikia.com :P
17:18.05vlad_Kirkburn: yeah, no 1.10 upgrade yet, that'll happen as a second step
17:18.15KirkburnIndeedely
17:18.17vlad_because the copying and other stuff took too long
17:18.43KirkburnYeah, Matthew.S said he had many dropped connections ... plus there's the size of the damn thing
17:18.52TecnoBratwowwiki.wikia.com redirects to wowwiki.com :P
17:18.59KirkburnTecnoBrat, ^^
17:20.54GryphenKirk, are the pumps are creating a horizontal scrollbar for you?
17:20.54Gryphen-are
17:20.54KirkburnHmm, I just noticed - no favicon
17:20.54amrothe speed difference is definetly noticeable
17:20.54amroI still see the favicon- maybe cached...
17:20.54KirkburnYeah, I get a huge scrollbar
17:22.53TecnoBrat216.151.156.11 = new IP?
17:23.12Gryphenlol
17:23.30Gryphenuse what you see when you go to wowwiki.com
17:24.05TecnoBratduh, just curious if the dns has propagated for me :P
17:25.41KirkburnTecnoBrat, yes, that's the new one afaik
17:26.14TecnoBratspeed difference is definately noticible
17:26.16Kirkburn"Also in 2.1.0 trial accounts will not be able to send out random whispers, they can only send whispers to people who are engaged in conversation or people who have them added to their friends list"
17:27.27Gryphenso General chat gold spam now
17:27.36Gryphen:)
17:27.39TecnoBratcan they use general chat?
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17:28.35TecnoBratnope
17:28.41TecnoBratthey cant use chat channels
17:30.34TecnoBratIf Blizzard banned gold buyers .. do you think the problem would go away?
17:30.44amrothey do ban gold buyers
17:30.50Lorim<PROTECTED>
17:31.07TecnoBratI have never heard of someone getting banned for buying gold.
17:31.16amrowell, I have
17:31.21LorimSame here.
17:31.37amro(besides blizzard's claims, that is)
17:32.25LorimAll I know is starting friday I am taking a week off of wow, and podcasting, and anything wow related and the best part is taht I wont' have to listen to gold spamers.
17:34.40Gryphenthey blocking them from sending mail?
17:35.17KirkburnHere's hoping
17:36.11LorimWow, never thought I'd here an NPC say "Woot" but I just did.
17:36.30TecnoBratNefarian in UBRS said woot, didnt he?
17:36.58LorimNot that I remember, but possibly.
17:37.43LorimOh and if I say anything twice sorry, I keep forgetting to click back into wow before trying to run ^^
17:37.44Gryphenchildren you free in terokkar forest say woot
17:37.55Lorimyeah thats who i just let free
17:38.17TecnoBratOh, its not the rend event I was thinking of
17:38.31TecnoBratthe rend event nefarian tells him to kill the clothies, and other stuff
17:39.14TecnoBratits Bloodlord in ZG that says woot
17:39.16TecnoBratwhen he levels
17:39.19LorimNo don't kill the clothies! I'm one! ^^ sorry gut reaction.
17:39.26TecnoBratand other bosses in the instance say "grats!"
17:39.53Fisker-Goldfarmers will use hacked accounts now
17:40.06Fisker-And they will spam the forums and the trade channels
17:40.09Lorimprobably
17:40.45Fisker-definately :P
17:41.16Fisker-TecnoBrat buying gold is a minor offense anyways
17:41.28Fisker-Their official policy is to remove the gold not to ban the player
17:41.48Fisker-But it's a tough situation cause Blizzard rely on reporting for finding buyers
17:41.58LorimReally? I thought they changed it to banning a while back.
17:42.04TecnoBratFisker-, yea, thats what I thought .. I didnt think they banned them
17:42.08Fisker-and unless they spout out in the trade channel(and probably not even then) that they bought gold will they ever be investigated
17:42.32Fisker-The EU policy is removing the gold, dunno if it's changed in US
17:42.40TecnoBratAnd at least if they do .. the people who buy gold aren't afraid of being banned ..
17:43.51Fisker-you can also dispute your ban
17:44.20LorimVery true.
17:44.22Fisker-Seen a couple of guys getting the perm ban sending a statement that they will be sued if unable to provide significant proof of their misdeeds
17:44.27Fisker-and you get a second chance in many cases
17:44.46amrothey probably ban one person in every 10 people or something
17:44.57amroalso depending on severity
17:46.19Lorim1/10 seems like a pretty large number. I'm just happy to play the game. hence why i've never been reported.
17:46.50TecnoBratI guess my point is that they haven't created sufficient fear that people are afraid of doing it .. and therefore the marketplace exists, and gold spammers are profitable
17:47.38TecnoBratI'm not sure it will really have that much effect
17:47.43TecnoBratBut who knows
17:47.54LorimMe personally I don't care if people buy gold, I just hate the spamming, espically since I run WIM so it pops up in the middle of fights as a window.
17:48.02Teomyra friend of mine had a rather positive experience with a gold farmer once
17:48.20LorimOh?
17:49.00Fisker-there was some guy on our server who got stuff from a goldfarmer or something
17:49.23TeomyrFisker-: yeah, that's what happened to him too. the guy seemed to have quit his job
17:49.25Fisker-because apparently the goldfarmer had to only farm a specific amount a day
17:49.54Fisker-well this farmer apparently sent the items because if he farmed more his boss would demand he farmed more :D
17:50.01Teomyrlol
17:50.03laurlywhat catagorie should quests in lower city be under? terokkar forest, shattrath city, or lower city?
17:50.14LorimAll I know is that on my server (BWR alliance side) We have bigger problems than Gold Farmers, its called Gold Beggars.
17:50.29Teomyrwell, my friend got about 6 traveler's backpacks and 300 zg coins
17:50.46Teomyr(pre-BC)
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17:51.59TecnoBratLorim, those are EASY to fix
17:52.01Adyslo kaso
17:52.03TecnoBratyou open a trade with them
17:52.19TecnoBratstick 500g in the trade window, and random crap that is in your bag
17:52.22TecnoBratand then go afk
17:53.14LorimI know I do it all the time but we still have a huge problem in SW with gold beggars and with instance run beggars. I also report them to the Guild Masters and we've started black listing people.
17:53.37Fisker-http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/lolwut.JPG <-i don't need goldfarmers btw
17:53.40TecnoBratits not such a problem on our server
17:53.50TecnoBratI dont think they get the response from people they like
17:53.57TecnoBratwe have a lot of elitest guilds
17:54.47LorimWe dont. We have all kinds of guilds. so we get a lot of newbs, gold farmers, gold spammers, and gold beggars. I just stay in outlands and i'm good.
17:55.30TecnoBratFisker-, I can't read french (at least thats what I think it is), what does that say?
17:55.45[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/16/mmo-art-owner-injured-should-be-back-to-work-soon/
17:55.48TecnoBraterr no, thats not french
17:55.57TecnoBratwtf drugs am I on
17:56.36Fisker-it's danish
17:56.54Fisker-but it wasn't the guildchat
17:58.05TecnoBrat"nice items:D"?
17:58.10TecnoBratI'm confused
17:58.11TecnoBratlol
17:58.23TecnoBratI'm slow today
17:59.06TecnoBratI got like 3 hours sleep, my son woke up 4 times, ugh
17:59.29LorimWhich is why I love being single, a full time student, and on summer break.
18:00.51TecnoBratbeing a dad is the best thing ever though
18:00.52Devilkoulthat lotta gold
18:01.20Lorimhaha I have a little sis who is like a child no tahnks. I can wait another bit. and I hate ninja looting horde..
18:01.28TecnoBratOh, its that picture .. I was like .. wtf? .. he only has 3700G btw :P
18:01.29Devilkoulyou got a craftable market cornered or something Fisker?
18:01.46TecnoBrathe has 15 quests
18:01.47Fisker-nah
18:02.11LorimWoot, ninja loot back!
18:03.32Teomyrnow seriously... tell us! guild bank? grinding junkie? h4x0r? display bug?
18:03.52Devilkoulphotoshop imo
18:03.52Devilkoul:D
18:04.06TecnoBratdisplay bug
18:04.08TecnoBrathe has 15 quests
18:04.09Devilkouloh it's titan panel bug
18:04.10Devilkoulyea
18:04.11TecnoBratand 3774G
18:04.13Devilkoulrofl
18:04.35TecnoBratwell, not a "bug"
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19:19.55DevilkoulLF link to lvl 10 solo'ing VC video
19:20.10MatthewSnerf paladins?
19:20.32Devilkoulnvm got it
19:20.37Devilkoulhttp://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/07/wow-moviewatch-rogue-solos-van-cleef/
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19:39.17Kirkburn|afk105% dodge ftw
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19:47.05Kasoratings are over-powered for this reason
19:47.47sancusthey're only overpowered at low levels, and no one cares about balance at low levels
19:48.14Kasocept the twinkers in arenas
19:48.43Kasoit just frustrates me cos tis something they shouldve thought of when introducing ratings
19:50.58sancusarenas? you mean bgs
19:51.02sancusarenas are for 70s only
19:51.54sancuslow level bgs were always an incredibly dumb idea heh
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19:52.19Kasobgs ofc
19:52.34Kasosorry its just "pvp = arena" has become fixed in my mind
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20:14.48KasoIs seal of command bugged?
20:14.59Kasoit seems if you stand too far away when meleeing it doesnt proc
20:15.54Chibson live or ptr?
20:16.06Chibsnot noticecd any problems on live when playing my pali a few days ago
20:16.27Kasolive
20:16.52KasoI dont know but it feels like sometimes it just never procs, and on those occasions im usually meleeing at max range
20:17.07Kasoperhaps the SoC range is shorter than melee, its happened before
20:17.20Kasothough perhaps its me seing patterns where they arent
20:17.48Chibspossibly, you can just spend some time and test it out :)
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20:23.03nix2kSo my wife and I each got a copy of this yesterday. We spent the few hours it takes to update, and tried to log in. All told, it took about 3 hours just to get ourselves ready... and by the time we were done, it was late
20:23.14nix2kso this morning, I attempted to start getting us online, see how it went
20:23.44nix2kI immedately started having connection issues. I couldn't get online, it would just say Connecting, and freeze up for a moment, and then give me an error about connecting
20:23.47nix2kthis happens on both laptops
20:24.01nix2khowever, I restarted my router, and I made it through and was able to select my character
20:24.07nix2kthought everything was ok.
20:24.26nix2kstarted my wife up, she couldn't log in, same error
20:24.36nix2kso, we restarted the router again, eventually got her in
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20:24.51nix2kit took 3 restarts just to get her from the account login screen to actually being in-game
20:24.54*** mode/#wowwiki [+v ClydeJr] by ChanServ
20:25.00nix2kfigured everything was fine. She went to work, and I logged out
20:25.23nix2klunch time, we tried again, only to have the same problems.
20:25.43nix2kwe had to restart the router 3-4 times just to get both of us connected at the same time.
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20:26.00nix2know, we can't even get a single player logged in, and restarting is not helping at all
20:26.03nix2k....help?
20:26.07equiraptorHave you checked the tech support stuff on Blizzard's website?
20:26.08ClydeJrCould we get a block on Sellmmo on the wiki? gold spammer in progress
20:26.29nix2kthe tech support stuff simply recommends to unblock and forward ports, both of which are done
20:26.30equiraptorThey make some suggestions about trying traceroutes to see if there's a routing issue, etc.
20:26.49nix2kI've done as much, and that is not the issue
20:27.56equiraptorWhat'd the traceroute look like?
20:28.10equiraptorHow many hops? Go through anything you wouldn't expect or that looked odd?
20:28.13nix2k...a normal traceroute, normal pings straight through to the end
20:28.15nix2kno
20:29.40equiraptorHave you checked for a firmware update for your router?
20:29.51nix2kits up to date
20:30.36equiraptorI dunno what to tell you, then. It sounds like either a router or ISP problem. Have you looked for other people using the same router and/or ISP?
20:30.58nix2knot the same router, but I know of other people in this city who play, same ISP, and have no problems
20:34.50nix2kwell, its sad to say that these problems really shouldn't exist. Fortunately I have absolutely no connectivity issues with FFXI... SE keeps my money
20:35.13equiraptorYeah, because it's really Blizzard's fault you have a crappy router. *sigh*
20:35.44[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/16/upcoming-blizzard-announcement-to-be-a-new-starcraft/
20:36.10equiraptorIt really bugs me when people act like their hardware problems are a fault with the game.
20:36.42Adysyeah
20:36.49foxlitfu, sensationalist URL
20:37.02Adyslol
20:37.05foxlitA questionmark makes all the difference in whether I want to read it or not
20:37.11Adyshaha
20:37.35equiraptorIt may be that they didn't include the question mark in the url because it's not a simple alphanumeric character.
20:37.46foxlitTrue, true
20:37.49equiraptor(I say, haven't not checked the link)
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20:37.56foxlitIt's mostly symbolic whining on my part
20:38.00equiraptorYeah. once the page loads, there's a ?.
20:38.18foxlit"My magic 8-ball has informed me signs point to no. "
20:38.51foxlitTitle should be... er, let me see...
20:39.26foxlit"My thoughts on Blizzard's future announcement backed by no evidence"
20:39.38equiraptorSounds good. ;)
20:39.50foxlit"With a tinge of "but is it?" thrown in"
20:46.37Fisker-foxlit infact it's "My thoughts on Blizzard's future announcement backed up by contradicting evidence by myself" :P
20:47.05Fisker-i'd think that blizzard would've tried to claim the other sites if it infact had anything to do with it
20:47.27Fisker-although that would probably be suspicious
20:47.51Fisker-so i guess the answer, is as always, we'll know on the 19th :P
20:48.04Fisker-although we'll know early because of korean timezones weee
20:48.16Fisker-needs moar fap
20:48.50TecnoBratwtf, blizzard has a patent for "Area-based resource collection in a real-time strategy game"
20:49.13Fisker-Patents <3
20:49.44Fisker-what do they mean by area based anyways? :o
20:51.15TecnoBratArea-based resource collection comprises a system and method in which players in a real-time strategy game first define an area of influence, which, after the effects of other areas of influence have been considered, is used in calculating their resource collection potential.
20:51.35TecnoBratEmbodiments of area-based resource collection include, for example, enabling a first player to define a first area within a map, the map being utilized in a playing of a real-time strategy game, the map comprising a field from which resources may be acquired, the first area overlapping at least a portion of the field, the overlapped portion of the field defining a potential resource collection area;
20:51.40TecnoBratI dont get it
20:51.42TecnoBratactually, lol
20:52.40Fisker-Sounds like you get more resources by having control of the area?
20:52.47TecnoBratsounds that way
20:52.56Fisker-must construct additional pylons!
20:53.07equiraptorYeah, the pylons, the zerg mats...
20:53.29equiraptorSounds at least kinda like them...
20:53.33TecnoBrat"WARCRAFT II (Blizzard Entertainment) manual, 1995-1999. cited by examiner "
20:55.19TecnoBratblizzard still havent trademarked any new names though :)
21:02.17TecnoBrat|Pixel|! the suspense is killing me!
21:02.53TecnoBratI bet you wanna launch the website as bad as I want to know whats on it though eh? lol
21:06.39Fisker-? :o
21:07.46TecnoBratFisker-, |Pixel| worked for Blizz EU, he announced to us that he has the website for the annoucement on the 19th on his harddrive
21:07.49TecnoBrathes evil
21:07.55TecnoBratworks*
21:08.35Fisker-lets hack him
21:09.12TecnoBratagreed!
21:09.15TecnoBratI mean .. uhh
21:09.43[NewsBot]Blizzplanet: Guild Bank & In-Game Voice Chat after patch 2.1 - http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=1361
21:11.29foxlit"Wow, after patch 2.1! That's like so soon!"
21:12.05foxlit(Flash to blizzard HQ, dev meeting: "And we're implementing those features when? Oh, version 4.3!")
21:17.57Fisker-^^
21:19.49Adyskaso ping
21:20.02Kasohey
21:20.19Kirkburn|afkkaso ping
21:21.25TecnoBratKirkburn ping
21:21.35Kirkburn|afkhey
21:21.42TecnoBratkaso ping
21:21.45TecnoBrat:P
21:21.52Kasostoofoo noobs
21:21.58TecnoBrathaha
21:25.42Kirkburn|afkkaso, what level you got to now?
21:25.50[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/15/does-the-industry-need-to-give-wow-competition/
21:25.55Kirkburn|afkAnd should I start sending the crappier engineering stuff to you?
21:26.29Kaso24
21:26.40Kasomy eng is well high now
21:26.44Kaso185 eng
21:27.09Adys235 here :>
21:27.15Kirkburn|afkArgh
21:27.36Kirkburn|afkI'll keep sending crap to Adys, he can send on what he doesn't need
21:27.46Adysaye
21:28.03Kirkburn|afkI need 2700 more rep with IF
21:28.08*** join/#wowwiki Skosiris (n=sdgdsg@modemcable244.155-201-24.mc.videotron.ca)
21:28.13*** mode/#wowwiki [+v Skosiris] by ChanServ
21:28.15Kirkburn|afkAnd then I will have a 4 random mount macro :D
21:29.07Kirkburn|afkI could spend ages just going around showing off my collection at 40 =)
21:29.12Kirkburn|afkSkosiris, how so!?!?
21:29.47SkosirisI have some huuuge video file (.mov) that needs to be resized to the "Youtube" format
21:30.06Skosirisbut I don't know what program to use to perform this task
21:30.31Skosiris(resized -> scaled down)
21:30.51Kirkburn|afkNo idea :/
21:31.24KasoSkosiris, Virtual Dub
21:31.58Skosiristhanks!
21:32.18Kasoit might be a little confusing if you havent used it before, if you cant work it out shout and ill help
21:33.03SkosirisFile > Open
21:33.19Skosirisit won't open a .mov video :(
21:35.22Kirkburn|afkMicrosoft have announced the Windows oPhone - http://microsoft.blognewschannel.com/archives/2007/05/07/the-windows-mobile-ophone-video/
21:35.48[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/16/2-1-and-beyond-voice-over-ip-voip/
21:36.00Kasodamn its .mov?
21:36.14Kasojust chuck it in windows movie maker then?
21:38.19Kasohahaha
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21:40.28Xaviorhello, are there any admin's on atm that i could talk to?
21:40.35Adysy
21:40.39Adyswhats up?
21:40.52Fisker-o hi i just upgraded your ophone
21:41.39Xaviorhmm i guess messages dont work here
21:41.45Adysyou need to be registered
21:41.50Xaviorah k
21:41.53Adyswhat do you need exactly?
21:41.54Xaviorlemme do that real quick
21:42.10Fisker-that video is stupid
21:42.11Xaviorhaving trouble with my acct, it was autoblocked because of the IP
21:42.23Adysis your name teabingh?
21:42.27Xaviornope
21:42.30Adysok good
21:42.33Fisker-and it looked like C code :O
21:42.54GryphonTHZyou have the same IP as a gold spammer that was just blocked
21:43.12AdysXavior: whats your username on the wiki?
21:43.19XaviorCharlesXavior
21:43.25Adysk lemme check
21:43.45Xaviorit says my ip is 66.96.29.213, but when i goto other websites its sthn different
21:44.27Xaviorip-address.com says 216.189.182.142
21:44.27Xavior<PROTECTED>
21:44.36Adysdid you try to create an account?
21:44.51Xavioron wowwiki or IRC
21:44.52Kasothose ips arent even close to each other ^_-
21:44.55Adysirc
21:44.55Kasowierd
21:45.01TecnoBratXavior, do you use a one is in florida
21:45.01Adyser, wowwiki
21:45.03Adysim stupid.
21:45.10TecnoBratthe otehr is in toronto canada
21:45.17Xaviornot yet lemme do that real quick - whats the command? i havent used irc in a while
21:45.21Kirkburn|afkMikaka got blocked earlier similarly
21:45.23Xavioryeah im in florida
21:45.24Adyshmm
21:45.30Adysill just unblock 1562
21:45.48AdysTry now Xavior
21:45.48Fisker-it's probably a transparent proxy
21:45.57Fisker-in  other words you got pwned by your isp
21:46.04Xaviorlol
21:46.16Xavioryeah its working now, thanks
21:46.18TecnoBratXavior, if you go to a dos prompt, and type ipconfig (I'm assuming you are using windows xp), does it say 216.189.182.142?
21:46.23TecnoBratOhhhhhhhhhh
21:46.27Xaviormac =x
21:46.30Xaviorlemme check my sys panel
21:46.32TecnoBratI bet you I know what it is ... heh
21:46.33Fisker-http://www.lagado.com/proxy-test
21:46.34Fisker-try this
21:46.54Xaviorsays the 216... on my comp
21:47.10XaviorThis request appears NOT to have come via a proxy.
21:47.12Xaviorlol
21:47.25TecnoBratI bet 66.96.29.213 = the old wowwiki IP / proxy / whatever because of the move
21:47.27Fisker-well then they're either hiding it good or something weird is going on :P
21:47.29GryphonTHZtry accessing the wiki
21:47.43Adyshes ok now
21:47.48Xavioryea it says im unblock
21:48.22Kirkburn|afkMikaka got blocked earlier when Varg blocked Sellmmo
21:48.30Fisker-are people stupid or do they really think that Blizzard will just let everyone broadcast to everyone on their new voip system?
21:48.34Xavioryea thats who showed up for me
21:48.41Fisker-or is it only because they wanna complain about something?
21:48.51Kirkburn|afkHuh, that's odd
21:49.04Kirkburn|afkWhy would blocking Sellmmo block other people too, for varying time periods?
21:49.18TecnoBrat-10:15:38- (@vlad_) but you might be routed through the old one
21:49.18TecnoBrat-10:15:43- (@vlad_) (network-wise)
21:49.23TecnoBratI bet you thats why.
21:49.25GryphonTHZblocks ip for 24 hours in addition to the account
21:49.58Kirkburn|afkWhy would that affect account blocking though? I feel a bit noobish
21:50.21TecnoBratbecause if the wiki thinks everyone is coming from the same IP, due to everything routing through it
21:50.27GryphonTHZit blocks account creation from the same ip, for some reason people are being flagged from that ip
21:50.33Kirkburn|afkOh I seeee
21:50.40Kirkburn|afkYes, the redirect
21:50.45Adysooh
21:50.50Adysargh, that sucks
21:50.51TecnoBratI'm not a mac guy .. but do you know how you can check to see what wowwiki.com resolves to Xavior?
21:50.59TecnoBratfor your computer
21:51.20Kirkburn|afkMatthewS, if you're around the above convo will be of interest!
21:51.20Xaviorlemme look i think so
21:51.25Xaviortraceroute?
21:51.28Xavioror equiv
21:51.38TecnoBratping should give you the IP
21:51.38TecnoBratyea
21:51.56foxlitnslookup
21:52.11Xaviorhmm, thats interesting
21:52.11foxlitBut that doesn't take into account hosts
21:52.12TecnoBratif mac has that by default .. then yea .. use that
21:52.16Xavior66.96.29.213 for wowwiki
21:52.19Kirkburn|afkIf anyone has troubles like this using http://216.151.156.11 should fix it
21:52.21TecnoBrat216.151.156.11 is the new one
21:52.23TecnoBratyea .. thats why
21:52.33Kirkburn|afk66 is the old IP, indeed
21:52.36TecnoBratnote that that is the IP the block was talking about
21:52.43Xaviorprolly blocked a lot of people
21:52.49AdysNope
21:52.50TecnoBrat-14:41:34- (Xavior) it says my ip is 66.96.29.213, but when i goto other websites its sthn different
21:52.52Adysonly you on the list
21:53.15TecnoBratonce DNS sorts itself out .. it will go away
21:53.17Xaviorim the only one on maybe?
21:53.26TecnoBratso you guys can probably just deal with it for a day or two
21:53.33Kirkburn|afkAdys, what list?
21:53.34GryphonTHZprobably :p
21:53.36TecnoBrator whatever
21:53.37GryphonTHZblock list
21:53.41AdysLol at his quit msg
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21:53.57AdysKirkburn|afk: the currently blocked ip list
21:53.59Xaviorhmm evaluation version of IRC lol
21:54.02GryphonTHZhehe
21:54.03Kirkburn|afkHullo again Xavior
21:54.13Xavioreverything is shareware on mac
21:54.20Xaviorpractically
21:54.38AdysBoubouille: you there?
21:54.51Kirkburn|afkAdys, oh, it was on there until you unblocked it, I see :P
21:54.56Adysyah
21:57.17Xaviorah your server is in canada - no wonder i was like why is there 25 hops to get there
21:57.52Xaviorwell thanks for the help all
21:57.54TecnoBratXavior, actually, it just moved
21:58.01TecnoBratthats why there is a problem
21:58.10TecnoBratits not quite done yet, you are still hitting the old server
21:58.10Xaviorhmm
21:58.25TecnoBratyou (or your isp) has the old IP cached
21:58.47TecnoBratonce that cache goes away (within a couple days), you will hit the new server directly
21:58.59Xaviorok cool
21:59.04TecnoBratthe new server is in california
21:59.42Xavioralrighty, thanks again - have a good day
21:59.51TecnoBratlater :)
22:04.58GryphonTHZblocked another (or same) gold seller, which auto blocked another
22:05.55TecnoBratlol not surprising
22:06.20TecnoBratDNS sucks
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22:07.37AdysKaso
22:07.46KasoAdys!
22:07.53Adyscan you run your bot a sec and process item #14586
22:08.15Kasogimme a min to relog into linux and i shall
22:08.19Adysokidoke
22:08.29TecnoBratduel boot?
22:08.53DuTempeteI've never seen boots duel...
22:09.18Kasoyes duel boot
22:09.25Kasonot everything works under wine :<
22:11.40*** join/#wowwiki Kaso (n=Kaso@resnet16.nat.lancs.ac.uk)
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22:13.19*** mode/#wowwiki [+v KasoBot] by ChanServ
22:13.27KasoI havent made those changes so your overwrites etc will still be stuck in the queue
22:13.35Kasobut have at it
22:13.36Adysokidoke
22:13.50AdysKasoBot, process 14586
22:13.54KasoBotAttempting to process itemID 14586
22:14.26KasoMonster_-_Mace2H,_Fist_of_Omokk ? didnt i already do that
22:19.18Adysyah
22:19.21Adysno you didnt
22:19.25AdysI asked you to :P
22:20.01Kasoreally? hmm
22:25.04TecnoBrathmmm, wowhead doesnt know what item id 14586 is
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22:35.49[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/16/2-1-and-beyond-guild-banks/
22:37.49Adyskasobot, sup
22:37.50KasoBotKasoBot Status is as follows : Processing itemID 21922 (blank-item-id) Session status: 141/200 page generations complete.
22:37.57Adyshuhu
22:54.47Kirkburn|afkHeh, just had this awesome image of a hunter and tank running up stairs in Kara to "pull some mobs" - you hear a solitary gunshot, and only the hunter returns looking guilty.
22:55.59Kirkburn|afk"Uh, Tanky may be gone for some time, guys"
22:57.52TecnoBratwtf? lol
22:59.17*** mode/#wowwiki [+o Gryphen] by ChanServ
22:59.58DuTempetelol for a sec I thought that said GryphonTHC
23:00.32TecnoBratWhat does THZ stand for?
23:00.50[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/16/does-the-industry-need-to-give-wow-competition/
23:01.20Gryphenthe hounds of zeus
23:05.02Kirkburn|afkIt's official, Gordon Brown will be the next UK Prime Minister
23:05.42Kasothats not really news though
23:05.49Kasoi mean i was hardly a long shot
23:06.41Kirkburn|afkheh
23:07.53winkillerI haven't ever heard that name
23:10.07KasoWell to be honest im not sure i know the name of the german second in command either so i wont hold it against you
23:12.28KasoMan i hate ironforge
23:17.06AdysMan
23:17.07Adysffs
23:17.14Adyssome people still dont understand what a boilerplate is
23:17.33AdysWhats with adding {{icon}} to a page fucking already using {{tooltip}}
23:20.02Kasohaha
23:20.09Kasomy bot removes it and someone adds it
23:24.20cladhaireAdys: {{icon}} your face
23:24.20Adyshttp://www.wowwiki.com/Pattern:_Battlecast_Hood I HATE ITEM INTROS FFS
23:24.20AdysPattern: Battlecast Hood is an epic tailoring pattern.
23:24.20tispei have a qeustion
23:24.20AdysThanks I KNOW IM NOT BLIND
23:24.20Adysyeah tispe
23:24.21tispeim currently unsaved to Karazan
23:24.28tispemy guild has 2 groups going
23:24.52tispe1 group MIGHT down attumen....the other group will pass Curator
23:25.08Kirkburn|afk*Might* down? Isn't he like the first boss?
23:25.31tispei should be in the Curator gorup but im not...if i join the 2nd group and we down attuemen
23:25.43tispecan i join the 1st group later on in the week when they need me
23:25.52Kasowhy is one group so much worse?
23:25.52Adysno you cant
23:26.02Adysbut your guild has a balancing problem there
23:26.15Adysattumen is piss easy, if the other group is past curator already theres a serious problem
23:26.20tispei know about the balance
23:26.34tispethe guild leader wants to keep one gorup progressing
23:26.54Kasotell him he's a retard
23:26.56tispehe is a selfish shit that wants the best of the best in the guild to be in his team
23:27.02Kirkburn|afk>_<
23:27.54tispewhat do you guys think?
23:29.05Kasoagain tell him he's a retard
23:29.10Kirkburn|afkOf wgat?
23:29.11Kasoand or leave the guild
23:29.13Kirkburn|afk*what?
23:29.28Kirkburn|afkAs Adys said, you can only join one of the groups, no switching possible
23:29.54Adysi think you should change guild
23:30.06Adysa guild leader like that will get your guild to die when you'll hit 25mans
23:30.24Adysso get in a better one while you still can, and not when 30 players will suddenly look for a new one
23:30.46Adysguilds break when people start understanding together that the current one wont work out
23:31.09Kirkburn|afkTwo tiering breeds contempt!
23:31.20Kirkburn|afkContempt leads to the dark side ... :P
23:32.02Kasoi just did a 1099 heal on my level 24 paladin :>
23:32.24tispeits working out just fine...we mostly came from a very laid back guild and we only made it up to moroes in that guild
23:32.31tispenow we're up to shade wihtin a week
23:32.43tispebut he still wants the top of the guild in his team
23:33.12Kasothere shouldnt be preset teams thats the big issue :>
23:33.19Kirkburn|afkOnly Moroes? My greatest acheivement was downing Drakkisath!
23:33.30Kirkburn|afkOnce!
23:33.38AdysI think its funny http://www.wowhead.com/?item=7453 is a world drop but the highest droprate is from 'Eric 'The Swift'"
23:33.49Adyskirk, you need to get raiding really
23:34.01Adyswell organized pugs can do really great work
23:34.05Kasoyou spend so much time online yet do not raid i dont understand it
23:34.30Kirkburn|afkI may be online, but I'm not generally playing
23:34.50Kirkburn|afkGuilds ... frustrate me
23:35.18Bibi`ouFLOL Kirkburn is frustrated !
23:35.27Kirkburn|afkI like to know the people outside WoW before trusting them in-game
23:35.43Kirkburn|afkEarly on, lots of my Uni friends we're playing together in one guild
23:35.48Kirkburn|afk*were
23:35.49[NewsBot]WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/16/the-northrend-map-forgery/
23:35.56Adysthat's killing the princip of the internet =P
23:36.15Adyslol @ newsbot
23:36.50Kirkburn|afkWow, that was a CRAP article
23:36.55Bibi`ouFit's fun actually
23:37.04Bibi`ouFeverybody is trying to find photoshop details and all
23:37.08Kirkburn|afkSorry, but the reasons given in it are useless
23:37.12Bibi`ouFbut nobody noticed the big "NORTHREND" written in the sea
23:37.16Kirkburn|afkBlizz always reuse the little elements
23:37.27Bibi`ouFBlizzard never labeled continent names on the map :/
23:37.35Kirkburn|afk"Also, this map makes it appear as if there will be two large cities, centers for two possible races, which isn't likely either."
23:37.47Adyseh?
23:37.49Adysthey did Bibi`ouF
23:37.54Adysjust, not in the sea :P
23:37.55Bibi`ouF.. :(
23:37.56Kirkburn|afk^ yes, one of them IS a city. It's called Valgarde.
23:38.01Bibi`ouFsee, this is why I hate you
23:38.06Kirkburn|afkThe other is a tuskarr .... city.
23:38.25Adysyou know what, this map really makes me wonder tbh
23:38.27Kirkburn|afk"If you compare the two images, you'll see a lot of discrepancies between the two" <-- of course you f*cking would
23:38.37Adysand lol kirk, yeah indeed
23:38.43Bibi`ouFI love the reason given for the "centers for two possible races, which isn't likely either.""
23:38.46Kirkburn|afkSince when does Blizz honour their previous mapwork
23:38.50Bibi`ouFQuoted an article with absolutely no source
23:39.02Adyswell
23:39.09Adysthis map looks too "worked" to me
23:39.14Kasodispite their crappy argument i dont think its real
23:39.26AdysI mainly remember how the maps were at the start of the BC alpha
23:40.18Adysi mean, it looks like they worked more on northrend than outland
23:40.18Adysknowing blizz its a possibility LOL but he
23:40.18Adyshey/
23:40.36Adysbesides
23:40.55Adysthe northrend map looks WAAAY too similar to the Lands of Mystery one
23:41.24Kasoit makes me wonder why they put some northend graphics into the mpqs, i mean they know we scour them for info it was a bit of a give away
23:41.40Kirkburn|afkI've commented
23:41.44Adyshttp://adys.stools.net/WoWworldmap.jpg
23:41.50Kirkburn|afkhttp://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/16/the-northrend-map-forgery/
23:41.52Adysand yeah kaso
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23:42.27Kirkburn|afkWhere's that map from, adys?
23:42.32Adysno clue
23:42.38AdysI just.. have it
23:42.54Adysi think its one of the alpha concept map
23:43.06Adyshttp://adys.stools.net/alphamap.jpg thats the one in game during the alpha
23:43.38Adyswinterspring wasnt done at all, hyjal half done, silithus inexistant
23:43.45Adysungoro and tanaris completly screwed up
23:44.21Adyswoah, I got so much shit on my serbv
23:46.10TecnoBratwhy would a game map be the same as concept maps?
23:46.14TecnoBrat*boggle*
23:46.27Adysthats the point tecno
23:46.36TecnoBratwhen you start placing things .. you realise that you need to move it up 1/2 a zone to make room for X things in the game to go
23:46.55Adyswhy does the northrend ingame map look so complete, finished, with even arts and stuff around
23:47.01Adysand yet looks so much like the LoM one?
23:48.23TecnoBratdude, that alpha map is awesome
23:48.41TecnoBratwtf @ tanaris tho
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23:48.44TecnoBratwasn't complete?
23:49.00TecnoBratoh no silithus either
23:49.00Adysyeah
23:49.00TecnoBratlawl
23:49.00Adysits a really early map
23:49.21TecnoBrathehe winterspring is also totally white
23:49.27TecnoBratI like that map tho
23:50.14TecnoBratfix the weirdness like the "blockiness" and its better than the ingame one now, imo
23:50.58KasoDo you think we'll ever get the missing azorithean zones added?
23:51.15AdysI hope
23:51.37TecnoBratI hope do too
23:51.42AdysOk here is something
23:51.42Adyshttp://www.wowwiki.com/Pattern:_Moonglow_Vest
23:51.53AdysI think quest rewards shouldn't have any more info than that
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23:52.23Adys"You get it as a reward from this quest" click on the quest to know more about it
23:52.25TecnoBratthe more I look at that map, the more I like it!
23:52.45Kirkburn|afkYeah, Kaso
23:52.51Kirkburn|afkGilneas especially
23:52.56Adysindeed :(
23:53.07Kasoas new lowbie zones or as max level zones?
23:53.20AdysGilneas would prob be lowbie
23:53.22TecnoBrathijal, the zone in the wetlands, etc
23:53.26AdysHyjal/
23:53.26TecnoBratI'd love to see those
23:53.31Adysits not hard to spell cmon
23:53.35Kasoim not sure we'll ever see hyjal
23:53.36TecnoBratsorry :P
23:53.38Kasoin the real world
23:53.40Kirkburn|afkGilneas? Lowbie? How could that be possible?
23:53.42AdysGrim'Batol isnt that hard to remember either!
23:53.48Kirkburn|afkThe guy in charge of the zone is a asshole
23:53.52TecnoBratpfft, I'm lazy
23:54.06Adyswell logically i'd go with the fact that silverpine is lowbie
23:54.16Kirkburn|afkHad fun reading up on the Bloodsail Buccaneers yesterday
23:54.16Adysbut then, EP is high lvl and ghostlands isnt exactly
23:54.26Kirkburn|afkDidn't realise they were a bunch of human supremacists
23:54.49Kirkburn|afk(thus explaining the complete lack of anyone but humans in their ranks)
23:55.13Kasodont the bloodsail have a tauren captain somewhere?
23:55.23Kirkburn|afkThat's the Blackwater Raiders
23:55.30TecnoBratAdys, I know you are gonna know the name of this too .. whats the closed off area in Azshara (not the battleground entrance, the one straight north of the ruins)
23:55.42AdysAzshara Crater
23:55.51AdysAh
23:55.51Kirkburn|afkThe Bloodsail Buccaneers hate the BRs as they cooperate with goblins
23:55.54AdysThe north of the ruins
23:56.04Adysthats the Timbermaw grounds
23:56.20Kirkburn|afkIt' another entrance to Timbermaw Hold
23:56.27Kirkburn|afk*it's
23:56.27Adysno
23:56.36Kirkburn|afkIt's called Timbermaw Hold!
23:56.37TecnoBratits like a big gate
23:56.39Adysit's called "Timbermaw Hold"
23:56.42Adysbut it doesnt lead anywhere
23:56.49TecnoBratyea
23:56.50Kirkburn|afkI know
23:56.55Kirkburn|afkI'm saying that it /would/ be :P
23:57.25TecnoBratwhere else is there "unfinished" stuff .. hmmm
23:57.29Kirkburn|afkProbably appropriate for a dungeon
23:57.52Kirkburn|afke.g. the furbolgs have been pushed out of their home, so take it back, a la Gnomeregan
23:57.57Kirkburn|afk(but less shit than that)
23:58.05AdysKaso!
23:58.06Adyshttp://www.wowwiki.com/Pattern:_Soulcloth_Shoulders
23:58.14Adysyour bot started in the BCs now :)
23:58.19Kirkburn|afkzomg
23:58.23KasoKirkburn|afk, Garr Salthoof would like to have a word with you
23:58.37Kasohttp://wow.allakhazam.com/db/mob.html?wmob=2549&locale=enUS;source=live
23:58.47Kirkburn|afkHmm, now that's odd
23:58.51Kasoi should conitune my bot's progress then
23:58.54Kirkburn|afkAnd how dare you link Alla over WW here! :)
23:59.06*** kick/#wowwiki [Kaso!n=Miranda@86.210.212.171] by Adys (Yeah, eh?)
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23:59.12Kasocos alla had a picture of him :>
23:59.16Kirkburn|afkSo does WW
23:59.21Kasoit does?
23:59.25Kirkburn|afkYup ^^
23:59.31Kirkburn|afkhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Garr_Salthoof
23:59.33AdysVarghedin > *
23:59.37Gryphenhave to use WW first to use it for links :p
23:59.47Adyslol
23:59.53Kasowell i must admit i didnt check, i needed something i could easily sort by faction so i used wowhead first then that didnt have a pic so i looked the name up on the other two
23:59.53Kirkburn|afkActually it was Flyspeck

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