IRC log for #wowwiki on 20070501

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01:30.36Robot-Chickennot only is the game down, but to add insult to injury, the forums are too.
01:35.42Adysnot only that, IRC is dead aswell
01:37.10Robot-Chicken:(
01:44.12KirkburnThis is fun, I'm beating up kobolds
01:44.18Kirkburnvlad_, meep
01:44.44Bibi`ouFHey, I know a site that works just fine !
01:45.27TecnoBratBibi`ouF, any idea what the attunement for BT is gonna be?
01:47.16Bibi`ouFkinda, kill this, kill that, enter the temple.
01:47.28Robot-Chickeni could have been playing an hour ago >:(
01:48.59TecnoBratDo you know if it requires hijal?
01:49.13TecnoBratseems retarded that the vendor for t6 is in hija;
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01:50.10johobbitthis downtime sucks, eh?
01:52.35Robot-Chickenif i could at least read the forums i wouldnt be so steaming mad
01:53.02Robot-Chickenyou'd think with the $5649299012 billion blizzard has they could afford the bandwidth
01:53.42Bibi`ouFthe bandwith for ?
01:53.49Robot-Chicken...hosting the forums
01:53.54Robot-ChickenServer is busy, please try again
01:53.57Bibi`ouFi don't think it's a matter of bandwith
01:54.13Robot-Chickennevermind the joke seems to have zipped past you
01:54.26Bibi`ouFit's more a matter of "it will takes 3 hours to moderate all the whine threads posted on the forums while the servers were down"
01:54.31zeegAnyone here have the spanish EU client?
01:54.42Bibi`ouFzeeg : i think i've got the language pack installed, why ?
01:55.01zeegI need a few files from it's MPQs (from the latest test server) :)
01:55.25Robot-Chickenyeah I keep thinking they really are just keeping them down so people shut up
01:55.32vlad_Kirkburn: sup?
01:55.46Bibi`ouFzeeg : which one ?
01:55.52KirkburnI was wondering whether I can go to bed? ;P
01:57.25TecnoBratIf I was blizzard, I would not buy 3x as many servers as I need, just in the case that the servers go down because of some stupid outtage .. doesnt seem like a good us of money to me ... spend it on making sure the servers dont go down
01:57.41Robot-Chickenor stuff like this happens
01:57.52Robot-Chickenbecause this is really really aggrivating
01:58.07TecnoBratThats what I'm talking about .. make sure shit like this doesnt happen
01:58.23KirkburnIt's called "life"
01:58.32johobbitwill it be back up tonite, youthinks?
01:58.53KirkburnIs it a live maintenance in the US?
01:59.31TecnoBratIts a "Authenticating" maintenance :)
01:59.50johobbitthey say there will be an update in 30 minutes
02:00.03johobbitkeep in mind this was 27 minutes agoi
02:00.07johobbit*ago
02:00.22KirkburnOh, please don't start complaining the moment the 30 mins passes
02:01.17Robot-Chickengive them 3 minutes.
02:01.25Robot-Chickenor 2 now
02:02.14KirkburnTecnoBrat, "spend it on making sure the servers dont go down" ... one would think that's what they already do do
02:02.54TecnoBratone would think :)
02:03.17TecnoBratAlthough the auth server has been down for about 2 hours now
02:03.44KirkburnAs I asked earlier, is it live maintenance day?
02:03.52TecnoBratNope, thats tomorrow
02:03.56TecnoBratand its not live
02:04.01Robot-Chickenif you log on you should see a message
02:04.02Kaydeethreegoing down for maint tomorrow
02:04.26KirkburnTwo conflicting answers there ...
02:04.32KirkburnRobot-Chicken, I'm EU
02:04.44TecnoBratIts going down for full maintenance tomorrow
02:04.49Kaydeethreethen you're going down for maint on wednesday
02:05.43KirkburnYes, well, anyway, my guess is something may have occured during preparation for the downtime. Who knows?
02:07.22TecnoBratNotice how it went quiet?
02:08.08TecnoBratI'll give you 3 guesses why .. first 2 dont count
02:08.33KirkburnWhat went quiet?
02:08.42TecnoBratThe people complaining :P
02:08.50KirkburnOh right
02:08.56Adysmm?
02:09.02TecnoBratYes, Blizzard's estimate was correct
02:09.07Bibi`ouF[04:05:38] <Kirkburn> Yes, well, anyway, my guess is something may have occured during preparation for the downtime.
02:09.09Bibi`ouFNinjas.
02:09.19Kirkburnwell, duh
02:17.12Adysffs
02:17.12johobbitit's over guys
02:17.12KirkburnAdys, did you send me mail?
02:17.12johobbitworks now
02:17.13Adyssome idiot is putting back all the {{bc}} tags where they shouldnt be
02:17.13johobbitseriously awesome
02:17.13KirkburnAdys, well, there's no policy on it, or anything :P
02:17.13KirkburnAnd my thing isn't official
02:17.13Adyswe should delete that template
02:17.13Robot-Chickeni'm US >:(
02:17.13KirkburnAdys, I tend to agree
02:17.13Robot-Chickenis it up
02:17.13Robot-Chickenthank god
02:17.13AdysOk lets do this.
02:17.13AdysIm putting a bot request
02:17.13AdysRemove ALL instances of {{bc}}
02:17.13AdysActually
02:17.14Adyslets use {{bcarticle}}
02:17.14Adysor no
02:17.14Adyslets use nothing at all
02:17.14Adysarticles are FINE
02:17.14KirkburnDid you send me an email, Adys? :P
02:17.14Adysyeah loads of linen/etc
02:17.14Adysow email
02:17.14Kirkburn=)
02:17.14Adysgimme a sec need to check :P
02:17.14AdysKirkburn, do you mind if I just copypaste you on PM the lines :P
02:17.14Kirkburnk
02:17.14Kirkburnwait
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02:17.15KirkburnTo me!
02:19.52Adysmm, sec ><
02:20.00Adystrying to find it
02:20.01KirkburnAh, okay :P
02:29.23Kirkburn|afkAdys, what does this remind you of? http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/04/30/forum-post-of-the-day-are-the-naaru-evil/
02:29.34Adyshaha
02:29.46Kirkburn|afkBrain 'splode
02:29.50Adysrofl
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02:52.26Kirkburn|afkI'm going afk now
02:53.14Kirkburn|afkvlad_, if you do do server stuff tonight, fine by me :) I reckon I have 2moro free in case I'm needed
02:54.42vlad_kk
02:54.57Kirkburn|afkHave a good night, and see ya'll 2moro!
02:55.03vlad_tomorrow night probably
02:55.04vlad_nite!
02:55.13Kirkburn|afkkk, nn, :) :)
02:58.46Adysnn kirk
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03:10.03RomanRhi
03:11.57Bibi`ouFhey Kirkburn|afk are you here or are you |afk ?
03:12.30RomanRwhat's the fastest way to get Honor Hold rep, to revered for my heroics key
03:14.15equiraptorWhat's your current rep?
03:14.25equiraptorAnd have you done all the HH quests?
03:15.16equiraptorhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Honor_Hold That should be helpful, RomanR.
03:16.16RomanRthanks
03:16.37RomanRand what is your opinion on me levelig my last 6 bars til 70 in shadowmmon
03:16.43RomanRso i can get my class helm
03:17.34equiraptorI did 69-70 in shadowmoon. But I don't always plan the best...
03:17.49RomanRlol
03:17.51RomanRalrighty then
03:17.55RomanRshadowmoon it is
03:17.59RomanRthanks for the help
03:18.04equiraptor:)
03:28.03AdysLol omg
03:28.04Adyshttp://www.wowwiki.com/User:Dparvin
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04:16.41Sky2042adys
04:16.45Adysyeah
04:16.49Sky2042what enspired us to dump bc? :]
04:16.52Sky2042inspired*
04:16.57Adysits useless
04:17.10AdysIll find a new template to put it back where it SHOULD be
04:17.13Adysand thats max 20 pages
04:18.04Sky2042works for me
04:18.18Sky2042was this executive decision, or did you decide. ;P
04:18.21Sky2042?*
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04:20.11AdysI decided, phear mah dictatorzship
04:20.17Sky2042:D
04:20.27Adysit should have been done two months ago
04:20.32Sky2042aye
04:20.52Sky2042maybe it should be amended so that it only concerns major pages? like karazhan, or scryers?
04:21.08Adysitll be, later
04:21.19Sky2042btw, have a look at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcu8ZdJ2dQo&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fbulletin%2Emyspace%2Ecom%2Findex%2Ecfm%3Ffuseaction%3Dbulletin%2Eread%26messageID%3D3383269607%26Mytoken%3D94992F3A%2D2DBD%2D457B%2D8A9 way cool game
04:21.33Adyshttp://youtube.com/watch?v=Mkhx7mkMXa8
04:21.53Sky2042he needs to lern2ytmnd
04:21.55Sky2042lol
04:22.12Sky2042i'm gonna' rape you!
04:22.39AdysSky, categories should not fall under capitalization rules
04:22.48Adyshttp://www.wowwiki.com/WW:CAT
04:22.59AdysWhen adding a category to the below list, please observe the following guidelines:
04:22.59Adys<PROTECTED>
04:24.12Sky2042it's all lower case caps on wikipedia, except in the case of proper nouns... makes them easier to type
04:24.24Adysdon't care bout wikipedia, we got a policy up
04:24.54Adysits a matter of not having someone create a new category when one already exists
04:25.51Sky2042eh
04:25.52Sky2042w/e
04:26.43Adysno.
04:26.48Adysjust, no
04:26.59Adysno more massive changes like that
04:27.10Sky2042w/e
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05:34.58Adyshttp://www.wowwiki.com/ItemID
05:35.03Adyshey baggins
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05:35.43Bagginswwhi
05:35.53Bagginswwso I propose a change to the Kazzark articles
05:35.59Bagginsww*Kazzak
05:36.06Bagginswwperhaps make a main disambig page
05:36.17Bagginswwwhich links to both "boss forms"
05:36.26Bagginswwas well as a pure Kazzak lore page
05:36.48Adys[[Doom Lord Kazzak (lore)]]
05:36.59Bagginswwwell doom lord was a promotion
05:37.04Adys[[Lord Kazzak]]
05:37.13Adys[[Doom Lord Kazzak]]
05:37.16BagginswwI'd say maybe just Kazzak
05:37.20Bagginswwand discuss the promotion
05:37.40AdysNah, ingame NPCs should be named the way they are named ingame
05:37.46Adysbtw
05:37.51Adyshttp://www.wowwiki.com/Council_of_Tirisfal can you implement more clearly the Seventh Ring of the Tirisfalen's reference in this page ?
05:38.07Bagginswwwe don't do that with characters with lore
05:38.19BagginswwLike Sicco Thermaplugg
05:39.07Bagginswwbiggest problem is Kazzak got promoted,yet most of his lore ties back into his previous position
05:39.51BagginswwIn RPG he's often just called "Kazzak"
05:39.59Bagginswwthere is quite a bit of lore for him
05:40.16Bagginswwin anycase we'll still have the unite pages
05:40.19Bagginsww*unit pages
05:40.29BagginswwDemon Lord Kazzak, and Lord Kazzak
05:40.32Bagginswwfor strategies
05:40.55BagginswwI'm just saying we could add most of his lore to disambig pages
05:50.19Bagginswwdid I convert info from Monster Guide to past tense well enough?
05:50.24Bagginswwhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Kazzak
05:56.01Bagginswwneeds a little bit more info from some of the other RPG books, but that's a start
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06:03.04Adysinfobot, logs
06:03.18infobotlogs is probably apt/ibot/infobot/jbot/purl all log daily to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz
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06:14.03Bagginswwin anycase I"ll be gone next week or two
06:14.03Bagginswwroad trip to pick up my sister back east in Michigan
06:29.43BagginswwKazzak has had alot of titles and names heh
06:29.48BagginswwLove this one;
06:30.09BagginswwLord Kazzak the Supreme, Kil'jaeden's Right Hand
06:30.51AdysTo the question "What does Kil'jaeden do with his right hand when everyone's backs are turned"..
06:31.00Adys"Yes! He sends it to Outland!"
06:31.13AdysSorry, didn't sleep
06:31.39BagginswwLOL
06:32.30Adys"Im in ur back visiting ur outlandz" or something
06:32.44Adysoh fuck sake my mind is going terribly wrong lol
06:32.53BagginswwLOL
06:34.09Bagginswwhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Kazzak
06:34.23Bagginswwwonders if I should keep the article like that, or make the lore article, "Kazzak the Supreme"
06:34.28Bagginswwcause that's just hilairious
06:34.33Bagginsww*Highlarious even
06:34.47Adyswowwiki is down for me
06:34.50Adyscant see the pages
06:34.53Bagginswwhmm
06:36.06sancusshitty euro internet is down more likely
06:36.23Bagginswwhmm interesting theory
06:36.34BagginswwHakkar may be a child of an Old God
06:36.52Bagginswwaccording to Horde Player's Guide
06:37.55Bagginswwthat might explain the title "Faceless One"
06:38.52AdysBaggins, is it Kil'Jaeden or Kil'jaeden?
06:43.45Bagginswwuh, well actually he was yelling, "KIL'JAEDEN" lol but in anycase I probably mispelled when I was typing it
06:44.04Bagginsww*the character in the book was yelling "KiL"JAEDEN"
06:44.12Bagginswwits in a short story
06:45.05Bagginswwbut you need me to look up if its Jaeden or jaeden?
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06:45.32BagginswwI'm pretty sure its jaeden, with lower case
06:45.39Bagginswwnot completley sure though LOL
06:45.43Adysok
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06:46.28Bagginswwlower case as early as warcraft II.
06:47.40BagginswwHowever, oddly the server spells it "Kil'Jaeden" apparently
06:47.50Bagginswwso I guess both spellings are correct
06:49.39Bagginsww"Throne of Kil'jaeden" is lower case
06:55.31Bagginswwwell, gnight must get some rest
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08:38.59Kilteksomeones gone through pretty much every boss page and moved the image to the left :( looks screwed up now
08:55.18Kiltektable of contents sucks...
08:55.38Kiltekworst thing is we can't even edit it to stop it from looking damn ugly when wrapping text around it
09:26.29Tekkubhttp://www.villagevoice.com/people/0705,savage,75676,24.htmlhehe
09:26.39Tekkubs/hehe//
09:26.42Tekkubhehe
09:26.45Tekkubthere we are!
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10:53.01Adyshttp://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Patch_2.1.0_%28Undocumented_Changes%29
10:54.41Adysomg, http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Angry_ogre#The_BE_on_azuremyst.2Fbloodmyst
10:55.39Kiltekjesus
10:56.09KiltekI'm not even going to read all of that
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11:00.14bit=D
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11:10.40Tekkubdotdotdot
11:10.44Tekkub*evil grin*
11:12.04AdysOk a request
11:12.37AdysCan we have http://www.wowwiki.com/Blizzard_forum_poster cleaned up a bit, I want to remove all the avatars once a specific Notorious stub has been created for each link
11:12.42Adysand the avatar linked on the page
11:12.54Adysbecause this page is simply impossible to browse on even a fast comp
11:13.04Adysnow its better
11:14.10Adyssaw what?oO
11:14.21Tekkubwell if I point it out it's no fun
11:14.35Adys>>
11:14.54AdysI can see everything
11:15.13Tekkubfine I'll be nice
11:15.15Adysa small puppy?
11:15.20Tekkubah ha
11:15.31Tekkubsee you got it :)
11:15.31Adyslol
11:16.36AdysNew stubs btw
11:16.52Adys{{Stub/Tech}} will be for everything outside of the WoW API concerning the game mechanics
11:16.53Tekkubis that what you call your growths now?
11:17.28Adys{{Stub/Notorious}} will be for personalities, guilds and players worth a page on the wiki
11:17.35Adysmeaning, they have done something special
11:17.59Adysexample: forum MVPs, guilds really really well known etc
11:18.18Adysthe author of a page considered PA cant use Stub/Notorious
11:21.34Tekkub<DIE> make that list?
11:21.43Adyswho's that?
11:22.21Tekkubthat's a no :)
11:22.33Tekkubstupid ally guild on Illidan US
11:22.43Adysnever even heard of their server
11:23.01Adysits barely if i heard of their faction
11:23.09Adysyou sure they play wow?
11:25.27BibiCan i be notorious ? plz plz plz plz plz.
11:26.34Adysat best, [[Boubouille]] can redirect to mmo-chamption
11:26.38Adyscomapion
11:26.40AdysWTF
11:26.42AdysCHAMPION
11:27.13Adysha you dont have an article up
11:27.33BibiI've got a discussion for spamming up !
11:27.33AdysI wonder if Stub/Notorious could handle fansites
11:27.37Adystekkub, what you think?
11:27.56Bibi(Well, technically, it wasn't me, but who cares.)
11:32.27AdysThundgot is a spanish community manager? oO
11:45.18Adyslol
11:45.30AdysAllakhazam had again a layout update
11:45.41Adysits not any better
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11:54.14Adyshttp://www.wowwiki.com/Image:INV_Weapon_Bow_28.png
11:54.17Adyshttp://www.wowwiki.com/Image:INV_Sword_83.png
11:54.25AdysTeomyr, can you look up these two icons?
11:54.33AdysI cant get a decent version of them
11:54.40Teomyrsec
11:56.14squidis it maintenance tonight?
12:02.31TeomyrAdys: fixed
12:03.37Adysthanks :>
12:05.39Teomyrhaha... vaneck aka "DJ Perplexer" :D
12:07.35Bibiffs.
12:07.44BibiPrivate messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )
12:08.00Bibi`ouFnow, i can DCC the fixed icons to Adys !
12:08.01Bibi`ouFoh wait. done.
12:08.17Adysteomyr done it bibi =P
12:08.19Adysbut thanks
12:10.17TeomyrPerplexer [...] is a German DJ and interpreter in the area of techno and dance music. He is mostly known for many remixes and the single "Acid Folk", a techno-instrumental with bagpipe music.
12:10.23Teomyr[...] Since Spring 2005, he's been working at Blizzard Entertainment as Community Manager for World of Warcraft, under the pseudonym "Vaneck".
12:12.28Adys^^
12:12.58Teomyrlol
12:13.44Teomyrtoo bad there's only a german wikipedia article about him :P
12:14.44AdysFill mah stubz
12:15.59Adyshmmm, wtb some food
12:16.01Adysbrb
12:29.19Adys~logs
12:29.46infobot[logs] apt/ibot/infobot/jbot/purl all log daily to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz
12:30.56Adysyou're slow, idiot. I was faster finding my own logs
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13:30.32Tuqui-tuquibest Heroes episode so far!
13:30.40Tuqui-tuquianyone see it watch it ^_^
13:41.03dottedidd it was awsome
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13:49.41Tuqui-tuquiwarrior spell reflect
13:49.43Tuqui-tuquihttp://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i173/tommos/Spellreflect.jpg
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13:53.18Adys~emulate purl
13:53.20infobotACTION tries to look like herself.
13:53.22Adysok
13:54.28dotted~emulate infobot
13:56.02Teomyr~emulate ibot
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14:00.39Kiltek~die
14:00.41infobotACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless.
14:00.41Kiltekdamn
14:00.53Kiltekinfobot r slow :<
14:07.31dottedTuqui-tuqui there are alot of contradictions in the ep tho
14:07.54Tuqui-tuqui:o
14:07.55Tuqui-tuquihow so
14:08.03Tuqui-tuquiI think it explained a lot of things
14:08.20Tuqui-tuquiespecially at the end
14:08.58Tuqui-tuquiI really cant go into details. I dont wanna spoil anything for anyone in here
14:09.08Tuqui-tuquibut it made everything rather clear
14:10.25dottedpm
14:11.32dottedTuqui-tuqui
14:11.43Tuqui-tuquioy
14:11.48Tuqui-tuquibah!
14:11.55Tuqui-tuquiim not fecking registered to get PMs
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14:12.00Tuqui-tuquihold on, let me register
14:12.07Tuqui-tuquiI wrote a whole freaking eassy -.-
14:12.19dotted:D
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14:58.25Adyshuge rain, bbl
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15:03.38Hobinheim|huugeKirkburn|afk, did you watch heroes yet?
15:04.04Hobinheim|workalso, i think i finished updating icon. my bot crashed in an infinite loop last night so that probably means it's done! :D
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15:07.43Hobinheim|workpaging ... someone?
15:07.50Hobinheim|workadys, Kirkburn|afk, etc
15:07.55Hobinheim|workwhy are we getting rid of bc and bc article?
15:07.55Adysyeah
15:07.59Hobinheim|workas seen in WW:BR?
15:08.00Adysbecause they suck
15:08.09Adysand are useless
15:08.26Hobinheim|workare they really?
15:08.28Hobinheim|workcuz i'll do it
15:08.32Hobinheim|workI'LL DO IT
15:08.50Hobinheim|workwas there a discussion about this?
15:08.53Hobinheim|workseems a little... rash
15:09.59Adysyep they are
15:10.12Adysand there was almost no discussion about it
15:10.25Adysbut it should have been done a while ago
15:10.41Adysinstead of removing bc from every page and leaving it on some very rare ones
15:10.44Hobinheim|workwhich brings us back to the discussion of "you can't really tag things as bc in a unified game, OR CAN YOU"
15:10.49Adysremove from ALL and add back
15:10.52Hobinheim|work....
15:10.56Hobinheim|workthat sounds crazy
15:11.21Adysand yeah agreedn you cant really tag things as bc in an unified game
15:11.43Adysthe thing is
15:11.51Adysbc should become a small, almost unused template
15:12.01Adysused for jwc, draenei, blood elves, etxc
15:12.07Adyssaying its been implemented in BC
15:12.34Tuqui-tuquior has it....
15:14.04Hobinheim|workuhhh
15:14.07Hobinheim|worki dunno...
15:14.09Hobinheim|workwell
15:14.38Hobinheim|workit's complicated... if we don't have it AT ALL, it's kinda weird
15:14.43Hobinheim|workwhat's wrong with it in its current state
15:14.51Hobinheim|workit clearly flags things that are BC content...
15:15.10Hobinheim|workthe only things i can think of are blood elves, draenei, zones, jewel crafting, bosses, and items
15:15.19Hobinheim|workthings that are clearly enumerated as BC only
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15:24.20Hobinheim|workso you really want me to do it?
15:24.21Hobinheim|worki kinda don't want to
15:24.25Hobinheim|workcuz you're like. oh we'll just add it back
15:24.54Slagertheh - didnt someone else get randomly disconnected in Area 52 as well the other day?
15:29.18Tuqui-tuqui:o
15:49.42Hobinheim|worki'm gonna have to get a second opinion
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15:58.10Kirkburn|afkMoo!
16:00.07Hobinheim|workKirkburn|afk!
16:00.30Kirkburn|afkHobinheim|work!
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16:15.15Hobinheim|workKirkburn|afk, {{bc}} elimination, thoughts?
16:15.34Kirkburn|afkI wondered when you were going to ask :P
16:15.49Kirkburn|afkOnly on the most important pages imo
16:16.41Kirkburn|afkIt's pretty much unmaintainable to have it on all pages related to {{bc}}
16:17.33Hobinheim|work:(
16:17.47Hobinheim|workhow many pages are you thinking about keeping it on?
16:17.49Hobinheim|workwhy keep it at all?
16:18.46Kirkburn|afkhmm, well that's possible
16:32.41Kirkburn|afkNew Warcraft novel and manga! http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=1325
16:32.51Kirkburn|afk"Knaak revealed there will be a new Warcraft novel with Rhonin and Krasus - which is on synopsis stage, and additionally a Burning Crusade Manga featuring Tyri and Jorad Mace -- yeah, those folks at the Celestial Ridge in Netherstorm."
16:34.30Devilkoulwoot sauce
16:39.01Hobinheim|workumm
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16:40.48zeegis Spanish esES?
16:41.08TeomyryES :D
16:41.40Hobinheim|workhurr
16:41.57Hobinheim|workhttp://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetLocale
16:41.59zeegThanks :)
16:44.23zeeg"ruRU": Russian (UI AddOn)
16:44.25zeegoy O.o
16:45.16Hobinheim|workyeah i dunno what that menas
16:45.22Hobinheim|workthose words ui addon were a relic of someone's edit
16:45.30Hobinheim|workit probably should be deleted but i was scared it meant something
16:46.19zeegfrom what I know theres no references to it in the game
16:46.25zeegbut someone correct me if I'm wrong
16:46.43zeegmy guess is Italian would come before Russian but who knows :)
16:49.46zeegbtw
16:49.52zeegGetLocale() never returns enGB IIRC
16:50.04zeegyou have to do something else to find out if its enGB or enUS (as GetLocale() returns enUS)
16:50.10zeegmaybe it should be documented on that page
16:54.41Hobinheim|workmaybe Kirkburn|afk wants to test
16:54.43Hobinheim|workor someone with a UK client
16:55.09zeegAre there any Spanish DB sites?
17:01.00Hobinheim|workKirkburn|afk
17:01.09Hobinheim|workdefinitive answer on bc
17:01.22Hobinheim|workor give me a list of articles that should be spared from judgement
17:08.56zeegThere aren't any Spanish players here by chance are there? :)
17:09.29deltronI took 5 years of spanish if that helps
17:13.13Hobinheim|workzeeg, what is it that you're actually looking for
17:13.24Hobinheim|workthese "are there any" pings are really annoying
17:13.31zeeg:<
17:13.35zeegsomeone to look over some stuff for me
17:13.38Hobinheim|workare there any brits in the house, are there any mages in the house, are there any night elves in the house...
17:16.52zeegsec
17:17.53zeegi jsut need to know if all the values are coming out right basically.. except the table headers/random obvious english words ive stuck in
17:17.58zeeghttp://wow-es.cursebeta.com/database/items/
17:18.05zeeger
17:18.10zeegone moment :)
17:19.10zeegk should be ok
17:20.47Hobinheim|workwtf is curse beta?
17:20.50Hobinheim|workare you working for curse?
17:21.02deltroni know someone who does
17:21.05zeegim the lead dev
17:21.06deltronon efnet :P
17:21.21Hobinheim|workintruder in our midst! alert alert!
17:22.10Hobinheim|workwell for all the annoynace i've provided, i see your point. and i do not speak esES
17:22.22Hobinheim|workbut i would like some phat "artefecto y legendario"
17:22.31deltronheh Nimloth hangs around in #wow on EFnet
17:23.04Kirkburn|afkI need a German to translate ClearFont for me :P
17:23.38Kirkburn|afkAre there any Germa-*bang*
17:24.12Hobinheim|workyo quiero arma lengendario de mundo de warcraft.
17:24.35Slagertmuy spectacular :P
17:24.52Kirkburn|afkClearFont already has an esES translation :P
17:25.30SlagertSauberLettertyp? ;) (hey, living 10KM from the German border doens't make you fluent ;))
17:26.01Kirkburn|afklol
17:26.27Slagertoh - Font is "Schriftkegel" according to Babelfish
17:26.55Hobinheim|workfontus clarus in latine?
17:27.00Slagerthaha
17:27.13Slagertjust like Monty Python's Biggus Dickus? ;)
17:27.17Hobinheim|work...
17:27.17Kirkburn|afk"Funky schriftartenaustauscher"
17:27.33Hobinheim|worki'll show you a biggus dickus
17:27.58Hobinheim|workmucho mucho resistencia a fuego
17:28.07Hobinheim|worky siete agilidad
17:28.14Hobinheim|workman spanish craft is highlarious
17:28.19Slagertghehe
17:28.47Hobinheim|workzomg forsaken = nomuerto
17:28.48Slagertif you want some more German inspiration, go to wow-taktiken.de
17:29.03Slagertand just yell everything it says for additional fun ;)
17:29.25Hobinheim|workseniorita sylvania, reina de no-muerto
17:29.49Hobinheim|workso, zeeg, el fellowello programmario
17:29.55Hobinheim|workwhat's your weapon of choice?
17:29.58Hobinheim|workand what powers curse?
17:30.00Slagertoh, it's http://www.wow-tactics.de/ even
17:30.55Hobinheim|worklol espada
17:31.00Hobinheim|workbleach en espanol
17:31.14Hobinheim|worki wonder if bleach is as novel in spain as it is in any non-hispanic speaking country
17:31.21Hobinheim|workyo soy el espada
17:31.22zeegwe use Python
17:31.29zeegand it's now my preferred language for the web
17:31.42zeegbut it costs a lot :<
17:31.43Hobinheim|workyou like it?
17:31.46zeegnot Perl :)
17:31.48Hobinheim|workcost how?
17:31.58zeegthe servers, it eats a lot of memory compared to say php
17:32.00Hobinheim|worki wanna learn python, ruby, and lisp
17:32.07Hobinheim|workreally, that's unfortunate
17:32.15Hobinheim|workso why keep at python at all?
17:32.29zeegwe're using a framework that we built upon which helps us for rapid app development
17:32.31zeegand its in python
17:32.36zeegand I like Pythons syntax :)
17:32.46Hobinheim|workwhitespace champion!
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17:34.58Hobinheim|workhow quickly can you map sort map an array in python?
17:35.08zeegmap sort map? :P
17:35.20Hobinheim|workit's a schwartzian transform
17:35.41dottedfuck microsoft is full of fail
17:37.10dottedtrying to install windows home server ctp on my via epia system but i cant becuase it just wont install becuase of some weird bug
17:37.26zeegsooo any chinese/korean/taiwanese players here? ;)
17:37.50dottedbecuase the harddrive in that system is sata i cant put it in my dads computer to start the install from there -.-
17:38.07Hobinheim|workmap { $_->[0] } sort { $a->[1] cmp $b->[1] } { map { [$_, $_->expensiveSortLookup } @list_of_stuff
17:38.45zeegive never used map functions, give me the input and output datatypes though and I could show you something :P
17:39.05zeegiteratables (arrays) in python are very nice though
17:39.12zeegunlike lua, with its.. *cough* tables
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17:43.43Hobinheim|workhey!
17:43.46Hobinheim|workdon't knock lua
17:43.48Hobinheim|workit's my new favorite
17:43.50Hobinheim|workit's so simple!
17:44.15Hobinheim|workwell is it like ruby where you can just chain them off an object
17:44.20Hobinheim|worklist = list.map.sort.map
17:44.22Hobinheim|workwhich is NUTZ
17:44.47Papais there a dedicated irc channel where players help each other on various questions about the game ( i can see this is about UI only)
17:44.48zeegoh, with attributes, sort of
17:45.05Gryphenit's not about ui only
17:45.06zeegx = MyClass().method()['value'].attribute
17:45.17Hobinheim|workPapa, it's not about UI only
17:45.24Hobinheim|workin fact, this isn't a UI chatroom at all...
17:45.37Hobinheim|workPapa, just ask your question and sit back and relax
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17:45.59Papaoh ok, who can i private about relative value of healing gear compared to int gear (29 lvl druid)
17:46.04Hobinheim|workrather... what does python have that no language does as well. that's always a good question
17:46.18Hobinheim|workprivate no one unless you're paranoid, haha
17:46.36Papaheh didnt wanna bore everyone :)
17:46.43Hobinheim|workdon't worry about it
17:46.54Hobinheim|worki'm neither druid nor expert healer nor min-maxist
17:47.04Hobinheim|worki usually just go with whatever gear has the highest ilevel
17:47.12Hobinheim|workand what stat do you want to minmax
17:47.21Hobinheim|workint is more generic serving than healing gear
17:47.35Hobinheim|workalthough healing points should probably come in at a higher rate
17:47.43zeegHobinheim|work: good syntax ;)
17:47.47Hobinheim|workso it depends if you want to be funneled in to the healing role and what your spec is
17:47.47BobloPapa, I think the main thing to worry about is available stuff, there's more int on gear than healing
17:48.07Hobinheim|workalso if you keep your leather class up i doubt there's much leather caster stuff
17:48.16Hobinheim|worklook into downgrading to cloth
17:48.20Hobinheim|workso i've heard...
17:48.40Papaalready did thanx to my tailoring alt :)
17:48.54Hobinheim|workwith no prompt whatsoever i'd say stick to int gear. cuz you can do damage with balance spells still
17:48.58Hobinheim|workcan't hutr anyone with HEALING
17:49.13BobloI remember having a lot of "of the eagle" gear at that level on my priest
17:49.21Papak all logical answers
17:49.49Boblothen around 35 there were a lot more +healing rares and good BoP drops
17:50.06zeeggrrr whats the deal w/ LUA's printf formats :<
17:50.20Papaok to be more specific, im not going to do caster role and my choice is +7int, +7spirit compared to +29 healing (only healing role)
17:50.27Tuqui-tuquiI R WEARZ GREY ITEMZ!11!!!!! ^_^
17:50.28zeeg'Increases defense rating by %c%d.' and then you have like 'Augmente le score de défense de %d.'
17:52.03Tuqui-tuquiwell, it's a good thing I'm an herbalist/alchemist ^_^
17:52.29BobloPapa: If you are solo, just go bear form and wear your non-casting stuff. For healing, it's really hard to say whether 7 int is as good as 29 healing without knowing the rest of your setup though.
17:52.39Hobinheim|workmaybe you could make a higher level python lua generator
17:53.01Tuqui-tuqui:o
17:53.54Bobloanyone else here waiting for a server to come online?
17:54.00Papak thank u all very much, i must admit this is very friendly channel, im realy grateful for ur help
17:59.29BobloSo is there a way to see the most recent contribs to wowwiki?
17:59.58BobloSpecial:Recent sort of deal?
18:00.58Boblodound it
18:01.01Boblofound it*
18:03.03Hobinheim|work0_o
18:06.40AdysTHIS IS NOT A FRIENDLY CHANNEL!
18:06.51*** kick/#wowwiki [Hobinheim|work!n=Miranda@APoitiers-256-1-77-107.w90-16.abo.wanadoo.fr] by Adys (We kick people randomly omg)
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18:07.35deltronwhoo
18:10.26Kirkburn|afkdotted, did I really see you type "trying to install windows home server ctp" and then complain about it being buggy?
18:10.50dottedthat bug was there in beta 2 aswell :/
18:11.20Kirkburn|afkWell, it's not as if between builds they fix every bug and then create a whole bunch of new ones to fix, of course some carry over :P
18:11.46equiraptorIs this a revision of Longhorn, or a different Windows home server something-or-other?
18:11.54Gryphenprobably why its still...beta
18:11.56dottedwindows 2003 r2
18:12.03equiraptorErr....
18:12.11dottedwindows server 2003 r2*
18:12.17dottedthats the code base
18:12.26equiraptorAh.
18:12.39Kirkburn|afkdotted, indeed
18:12.41equiraptorThat shouldn't be *that* buggy. 2003 r2 is shipping, isn't it?
18:12.41dottedbut it has vista like interface
18:12.47dottedyup
18:13.03equiraptorDid they mangle it that much for this "home server" stuff?
18:13.12dottedbut the switched to WinPE 2.0 with it, thats explains to buggy installer tho
18:13.24Kirkburn|afk*sigh*
18:13.35equiraptorAh.
18:13.40dottedhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Home_Server
18:13.56equiraptorI was gonna say, my 2k3 server stuff here is pretty solid for Windows. (windows hater here, sorry)
18:14.03Kirkburn|afkI'd noticed
18:14.11dottedKirkburn|afk the bug was first reported back in febuary :p
18:14.26Gryphenalll the way back then??
18:14.40dottedafraid so
18:14.48Gryphen/sarcasm
18:14.50Kirkburn|afkhehe
18:14.55dotteddamn slackers
18:15.05Kirkburn|afkThat's like, last century!
18:15.21dottedin the computer world it is without sarcasm :p
18:15.30Hobinheim|workoh god
18:15.33Adysinfobot, you suck!
18:15.35infobotSorry!
18:15.39Hobinheim|worki love the idea behind WHS
18:15.41Adysinfobot, you suck
18:15.43infobotand very well I might add
18:15.48Hobinheim|workwow infobot apologized...
18:15.51dottedinfobot, you suck
18:15.53infobotand very well I might add
18:15.59Adysthis thing sucks
18:16.02Hobinheim|workinfobot, you don't have to take any guff from adys
18:16.11Adysinfobot, suck Hobinheim|work up
18:16.13infobotACTION sucks Hobinheim|work up's cheek
18:16.26dotted[Hobinheim|work]: i love the idea behind WHS <- yup me 2
18:16.31equiraptorIt does seem pretty nice.
18:17.03dottedwith a WSUS Lite service it would rock, but it doesnt seem MS is gonna do that :(
18:17.32equiraptorI assume it's using the typical Windows stuff that doesn't like to play nicely with other OSes?
18:17.53dotteddunno, cant test it :p
18:18.06dottedwaste of a beta slot imo :p
18:18.07Boblostamina is the magic armor rating
18:18.12equiraptor(I mean, there are some things I wouldn't expect to play nice, like firewall and anti-virus status. But things like print sharing would be nice)
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18:19.31Kirkburn|afkOh btw, it's based on Server 2003 SP2, not R2 :P
18:20.16Kirkburn|afkI would think it's likely to work with other OSes
18:20.39Kirkburn|afkIt's mentioned in the wikipedia article that it support Time Machine, for example
18:20.50equiraptorSweet!
18:21.05equiraptor(I'm eating lunch and working, so my time to read the article is limited)
18:21.24dottedKirkburn|afk ah thought it said R2 once
18:21.25dotted03:07, 12 February 2007 Ckindel (Talk | contribs) (Windows Home Server is NOT based on R2. It uses no R2 technologies. It is based on Windows Server 2003 SP2. R2 is a set of *additional* technologies that can be optionally installed.)
18:21.30dotted:P
18:21.42equiraptorAs long as they haven't intentionally broken samba again, it should be pretty compatable with a lot. :)
18:21.45dottedits win2003 anyways :p
18:21.55Kirkburn|afkdotted, exactly the bit I just read :P
18:21.56dottedi doubt it
18:22.30dottedso i just orderes a sata controler for my dads computer so i can start the install from there
18:22.34dotted*ordered
18:23.13dottedi pay for being able to beta test MS software, does that make me leet or sad :/?
18:23.26Teomyr[19:26:24] <Slagert> oh - Font is "Schriftkegel" according to Babelfish <-- what the fuck oO
18:23.49Teomyri always knew babelfish was bad, but...
18:24.15equiraptorSad, dotted. I'm paid to test (though not specifically/only MS beta software). ;P
18:26.31dotted:D
18:29.42dottedbtw
18:29.52dottedWHS website is zeh fun
18:29.54dottedhttp://www.stopdigitalamnesia.com/
18:30.47Kirkburn|afkTeomyr!
18:30.56Kirkburn|afkCan you translate for me?
18:31.08Teomyrprobably :)
18:31.19Gryphenhttp://starburst.com/iamalittlelad/
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18:31.45Gryphenw00 future Adys
18:31.49Kirkburn|afkHave you any experience with translating an addon?
18:32.02Kirkburn|afkI need a deDE for http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/ClearFont2/Core.lua
18:32.20Teomyraah, okay
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18:32.45Teomyrwould you mind if i commit to the svn directly?
18:32.51Adys2010Baaaahhh
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18:33.34Kirkburn|afkTeomyr, yeah, you can
18:34.05Kirkburn|afkYou're here so I can shout at you if you mess it up (which I'm sure you won't) :P
18:34.09Kirkburn|afkAdys, morning
18:34.13Teomyr:D
18:34.18Adysmorning sweets =)
18:36.00Kirkburn|afkWatskeburt!
18:39.34GryphenOptimus Maximus finally being released, but for $1500 o,O
18:43.32dottedyup its insane
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19:03.12Sylphid|workanyone have a dkp web package they would recomend to replace eqdkp for a guild moving to the EPGP system?
19:16.22deltronepgp group said they were going to offer one
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19:18.15weazerAnyone who could tell me where White spider meat drops? Thottbot leaves me clueless.
19:18.29dottedwowhead.com
19:18.43dottedthott is shaite, get rid of it :p
19:18.45weazerThanks, i'll give it a shot
19:18.48Tuqui-tuquihttp://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=12205&locale=enUS;source=live
19:18.59Tuqui-tuquithat has a nice list of places it usually drops in
19:19.12dottedTuqui-tuqui alla is even worse :(((
19:19.17Tuqui-tuqui:o
19:19.19Tuqui-tuquioh :<
19:19.20weazerThanks guys.
19:19.23dottednp
19:19.28Tuqui-tuquiIve been using Alla for weeks in my quests =\
19:19.39dottedswitch to wowhead :D
19:19.41Tuqui-tuquithe onlything I dont trus it with is AH pricing for TBC gear
19:19.50Tuqui-tuquino! wowhead is confusing -.-
19:19.53weazerLooks like im going Azhara
19:20.02dottedconfusing how oO?
19:20.12Tuqui-tuquiit's so... different! :<
19:21.30dottedit's so... much better :D
19:21.39Grypheneh
19:24.50Kirkburn|afk""Funky schriftartenaustauscher" ?
19:24.51weazerThat are those Ace2 frames like CT_viewport is called?
19:24.59dottedGeiler schriftartenaustauscher
19:25.09Teomyrlol
19:25.12dottedweazer Skinner kan di it
19:25.17dotted*do
19:25.37weazerAh ok, never saw it in settings. Thanks
19:25.56dottedthink its top and bottomframe but not sure
19:30.42TeomyrKirkburn|afk: how about "ClearFont - Der abgefahrene Schriftartenaustauscher"? roughly translates to "ClearFont - The [cool|freaky|phat|wicked] font switcher"
19:30.58Kirkburn|afkSounds good to me!
19:31.07Teomyrokay ^^
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19:33.08dottedTeomyr GEILER
19:33.09TeomyrKirkburn|afk: done :)
19:33.09dotted!!
19:33.20dottedanything else is fail
19:33.20dotted:D
19:33.38Teomyrlol
19:33.41Kirkburn|afkThanks Teomyr! :)
19:33.55Teomyranytime :)
19:34.05Tuqui-tuquihttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=100430525&sid=1
19:34.14Tuqui-tuquiTailoring will remain the same :o
19:34.51Teomyrbtw, if you mouse over the font size setting, there's a second part in the tooltip's text that I couldn't translate (there was no variable for it)
19:35.12Teomyrthe "Note that you can scroll your mouse wheel..." text
19:35.32Teomyrdunno if that's a string from dewdrop
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19:36.50Kirkburn|afkTeomyr, yeah, that's dewdrop
19:36.50Teomyrah, okay
19:36.52Kirkburn|afkNow I go look it over :P
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19:41.27Kirkburn|afkLooks good :) Just updated the text on the other tranlations for the options thing to mkae it simpler like your version
19:43.32dottedkek
19:45.06dottedKirkburn|afk why maintain a second changelog?
19:47.25Teomyrlol
19:58.36Kirkburn|afkAgh!
19:58.55Kirkburn|afkdotted, cause the Ace changelogs are ... not useful?
19:59.07dotted:/
19:59.17Kirkburn|afkI need a better name for it though
20:01.24TeomyrSchriftartenaustauscher? :P
20:01.43dottedGEILER Schriftartenaustauscher!
20:02.07TeomyrGeilFont
20:04.53dottedlolfonts for lolwow
20:05.02dottedengrish version
20:05.11dottedno
20:05.17dottedlolwow for lolfonts
20:05.29dottedahahhaa im so not funneh
20:06.26Tuqui-tuqui-.-
20:07.39Hobinheim|workadsf
20:07.50Hobinheim|workKirkburn|afk, one more time, delete bc inclusions completely or no?
20:08.00Adysyes
20:08.01Hobinheim|workyou can see how hesitant i am to do it
20:08.08Hobinheim|workit's either somewhat useful or not at all
20:08.20Hobinheim|workwhat about the category, burning crusade?
20:08.35Kirkburn|afkJust for major BC article, the cat
20:08.51Adyslike Kirkburn/Dev was
20:09.51Hobinheim|workok well... the bot judges all unless instructed
20:10.07Hobinheim|workso in a couple of minutes, i will embark on deleting every inclusion of bc and bc article, as described in WW BR
20:10.20Hobinheim|workcomplain now or forever hold your peace
20:11.18dotted:D
20:11.18Hobinheim|worki didn't hear any complaints so far
20:11.22Tuqui-tuquiwait
20:11.24Tuqui-tuquiWAIT!
20:11.27Hobinheim|work?
20:11.30Tuqui-tuquiok, go on
20:11.43Hobinheim|workif i knew how to make a kick message i would
20:11.49Tuqui-tuqui>.>
20:11.50Tuqui-tuquino luv
20:11.51Hobinheim|workzomg
20:11.53*** mode/#wowwiki [+o Hobinheim|work] by ChanServ
20:11.58*** kick/#wowwiki [Tuqui-tuqui!n=Hobinhei@207-38-224-165.c3-0.43d-ubr9.qens-43d.ny.cable.rcn.com] by Hobinheim|work (Kick)
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20:12.46Tuqui-tuqui<,<
20:12.46Tuqui-tuqui>.<
20:12.46Tuqui-tuquit( -.-t)
20:13.02Hobinheim|workis that like bowing?
20:13.11Hobinheim|worklike a guys arms are to the left?
20:13.14Tuqui-tuquisure... ^_^
20:13.17Hobinheim|worklike praise jeebus?
20:13.32Tuqui-tuquisave me jebus!
20:14.02Hobinheim|workso long g, s, and c templates
20:14.18Hobinheim|workyou were so useful... and also so redundant...
20:14.28Hobinheim|workwe'll always remember you. in gsc and cost
20:14.30Hobinheim|workamen
20:15.53Kirkburn|afkYou're weird...
20:17.03Hobinheim|workcan a firefox user test something for me
20:17.10Hobinheim|workthe buttons that insert wiki code... none of them are working for me
20:17.12Kirkburn|afkSure
20:18.09Hobinheim|workzomg i left a message on a user page for someone who hasn't been around in a year
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20:23.49SiTRiChey
20:23.53SiTRiCi need help
20:23.59SiTRiChow to make a soul shard
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20:24.16SiTRiChow do i
20:24.23SiTRiCmake a soul shard
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20:24.35Tuqui-tuquihmm...
20:24.44Hobinheim|workare you serious?
20:25.05Hobinheim|workthere's an article about soul shards, it should tell you there
20:25.11Sky2042hobinheim, gsc isn't gone yet... ;(
20:25.24Tuqui-tuquiYou receive a Soul Shard by using the Drain Soul spell on a monster as it is dying. A catch is that you cannot get Soul Shards from monsters that don't give you experience. So you can't go into a newbie region and kill easy monsters for Soul Shards.
20:25.59Hobinheim|workSky2042, gsc needs to be kept because cost has performance issues
20:27.50Sky2042was gsc switched to use pngs then? :x
20:28.18Hobinheim|workyes
20:28.26Sky2042coolio
20:29.29SiTRiCthe thing is... i have an imp... while it acts as my tank and while i'm doing the drain soul spell, the monster dies...
20:29.40SiTRiCand i get an interrupted message
20:29.44Hobinheim|worknot the best strategy
20:29.51Hobinheim|workwhen you use the imp, YOU are the tank
20:29.57Sky2042lol
20:30.07Hobinheim|workand interrupts will happen. try to spec against it or just time it so that the spell can still finish even thouh you get hit a lot
20:30.08Sky2042hobinhiem scores 2 points, and draws the foul!
20:30.50Hobinheim|worktry using drain soul when the mob is already low on health
20:30.51SiTRiCis there some video out there showing it
20:30.56Hobinheim|workdon't try to drain mobs that are still healthy
20:31.03SiTRiCi have tried it around fifty times
20:31.03Hobinheim|worklow on health = < 20%
20:31.06SiTRiCno success
20:31.17Hobinheim|workare you using your other spells?
20:31.24SiTRiCyes
20:31.28SiTRiCcurses...
20:31.29Hobinheim|workmobs should be dying very, very quickly and not be hitting you at all
20:31.48Hobinheim|workcurse of agony, corruption, immolation
20:31.55SiTRiCyeah
20:31.57SiTRiCthats what i do
20:32.00Hobinheim|workthose three things should be active on the target at the time you drain soul
20:32.06Hobinheim|worknot many mobs can survive that
20:32.23Hobinheim|workdrain soul, it's channeling. are you letting it happen and you're not moving around?
20:32.24SiTRiCshould i tell my imp to stay
20:32.28SiTRiCyes
20:32.35SiTRiCthe channel also completes
20:32.45SiTRiCbut no soul shard
20:32.52Hobinheim|workchanneling should never complete
20:32.58SiTRiCoh.
20:33.00Sky2042hobinheim... sigh. can you help>
20:33.01Hobinheim|workthe mob has to die while you're channeling
20:33.07Sky2042?*
20:33.10SiTRiCi get it now...
20:33.13SiTRiCbut look
20:33.16Hobinheim|workif channeling is 10 seconds long, under real world circumstances, it should only last 3 seconds
20:33.29Sky2042ok, now he's in blatant violation of policy
20:33.31Hobinheim|workcuz the mob is already dead at the end of three seconds, so there's nothing left to channel
20:33.42Hobinheim|workSky2042, what
20:33.50SiTRiCwhile i'm chanelling... my imp also attacks the mob and keeps it busy... when it dies.. interrupted appears on the screen
20:33.58Sky2042http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Mage_lore&curid=21791&diff=618779&oldid=618767&rcid=531138 and he's doing that on every mage page
20:35.25Sky2042i have no issue with the english english language, but he's targeting the american spellings
20:35.26Sky2042see http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Mage
20:35.27Hobinheim|workthree days...
20:35.27Devilkoulhah
20:36.03SiTRiCcan my imp attack while i'm draining its soul?
20:36.03TeomyrSiTRiC: yes
20:36.03SiTRiCand do dust mosters have a soul?
20:36.03SiTRiCi mean who give experience
20:36.03TeomyrSiTRiC: any monster that yields experience should give you a soul shard
20:36.10SiTRiCokok... thnx
20:36.13Sky2042can i revert hobin, or will i get a block too? >.>
20:36.16Hobinheim|workany monster that is green, red, or yellow gives exp and shards
20:36.20Hobinheim|workyou can revert
20:36.23Hobinheim|workalthough i was gonna
20:36.27SiTRiCokok
20:36.30Hobinheim|workactually let me do it
20:36.35Hobinheim|workadmin reverts are cleaner, haha
20:36.36Sky2042ok
20:36.37Hobinheim|workless typing
20:36.44SiTRiCso i'll be playing now
20:36.46SiTRiCthanks
20:36.49SiTRiCbye
20:36.52Sky2042bye!
20:37.04Sky2042glad (he) could help
20:37.13SiTRiC:)
20:37.32Teomyri probably know why it's not working for him
20:37.53Sky2042he's using an imp instead of a void? ;P
20:37.54Hobinheim|workwho's reskar?
20:38.02Hobinheim|workwelll you can't get a void without learning how to drain
20:38.04Sky2042dunno. but he's contribd before
20:38.07Sky2042true hehe
20:38.14Teomyr[15:48 12.04.2007] <SiTRiC> and btw.. i'm playing on a private server
20:38.39Sky2042oh well
20:38.42Hobinheim|workdammit
20:38.44Hobinheim|worklet him getg away
20:38.53Sky2042yeah
20:39.05Sky2042but it wasn't like he was trying to be malicious about it
20:39.21Sky2042should've just linked him Soul Drain and the Soul shard pages
20:39.45Hobinheim|workdo the wiki code buttons work for you guys?
20:39.46Hobinheim|workin firefox?
20:39.49Sky2042yes
20:40.02Sky2042what wiki code buttons? the ones at the top of the edit box/
20:40.57Sky2042lol
20:41.02Sky2042kirk got his sig jacked
20:42.31Hobinheim|workhow do you mean
20:42.31Teomyr?
20:42.55Sky2042one sec hobin
20:43.13Sky2042http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Warcraft_pump#best_professions_to_make_money_while_levelling last sig
20:43.41Hobinheim|workyo uknow what they say about imitation
20:43.44Hobinheim|worktastes like chicken...
20:43.59Sky2042lol
20:44.11Teomyrah, i see what you mean :D
20:44.16Hobinheim|workhah on his talk page, on which he talks to himself, he openly admits it
20:44.24Sky2042whose?
20:44.30Sky2042oh, the sig?
20:44.55TecnoBratMages vs Magi, Mages = American .. Magi = UK?
20:45.05Sky2042essentially
20:45.14Teomyrbullshit
20:45.17Teomyrmagi = latin
20:45.19Teomyr:P
20:45.27TecnoBratI'm not sure I have heard anyone ever use the word Magi
20:45.31Sky2042and then he began targeting other american variations, such as changing centralized to centralised
20:45.32TecnoBrat./shrug
20:45.41Sky2042i used to use Magi on the forum boards
20:45.44Sky2042then stopped
20:45.59Hobinheim|workis magi really in the UK version?
20:46.05Hobinheim|workis there a localized UK text or no?
20:46.09Hobinheim|workPUT ON YOUR ARMOUR
20:46.25TeomyrRod of the Ogre Magi
20:46.35TecnoBratCanada uses the majority of the UK spellings, eg neighbour, armour, etc
20:46.40Sky2042but it's almost used in the singular in that case teo
20:46.44Sky2042lol
20:46.45TecnoBratbut I have never heard anyone use Magi
20:47.07Hobinheim|worki meant in warcraft
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20:47.24Sky2042oh yeah, hobin
20:47.50Sky2042he also started changing "melee" to using the "correct" form "mêlée"
20:47.53Sky2042>.>
20:47.59TecnoBrat....
20:48.04TecnoBratyou serious?
20:48.14Devilkoulon non-us class selection screens it's Magi?
20:48.16Hobinheim|workwhere
20:48.16Sky2042yup
20:48.31Sky2042on [[Mage]], as well as a few other places (melee combat?)
20:48.34TecnoBrathttp://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/classes/mage/index.html
20:48.41TecnoBratFirst word
20:48.47TecnoBrat"Mages wield ..."
20:48.49Sky2042LOL
20:48.50Devilkoulding ding ding
20:49.09TecnoBratIt says "Mages" twice, and "Magi" 0 times
20:50.04Devilkouli understand anti-americanism, but seems excessive
20:50.55Hobinheim|workAMERICA AMERICA AMERICA!!!
20:50.55TecnoBrathttp://www.google.ca/search?q=site%3Awow-europe.com+magi&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official
20:50.55Devilkoulhaha
20:50.55TecnoBratLooks like the only time Blizzard uses "Magi" is when they are talking about certain mobs
20:50.56TecnoBratlike some trolls
20:50.56Sky2042lol
20:51.03Gryphenthey say magi on character creation
20:51.07Sky2042http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Zurr#You_mean_m.C3.AAl.C3.A9e.3F
20:51.25TecnoBratThey do Gryphen?
20:51.28Sky2042melee weapon was the page
20:51.54GryphenTecnoBrat he uploaded the sshot
20:52.07GryphenI verified on my client as well
20:52.28TecnoBrat./shrug ... seems the only place its used in text on the wow site, is when talking about certain lore
20:52.48TecnoBratBut the class is always referred to as "Mages"
20:53.08Hobinheim|workmaybe magi refers to the collective of mages
20:53.12Hobinheim|worklike the magi of dalaran
20:53.16DevilkoulGryphen: got link to screeny?
20:53.36Gryphenhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Magi.jpg
20:53.39Sky2042i haven't seen it in that case hobin
20:53.44TecnoBratHobinheim|work, actually .. now that you say that ... thats exactly what it is.
20:53.58Devilkoulinteresting
20:53.58Hobinheim|workaww gryph... i was trying to be mean and sarcastic with that KV entry...
20:54.01TecnoBratNot the plural of "Mage" but the collective of lots of "Mages"
20:54.20Sky2042i think it might be that way on the american page, but i don't know :/
20:54.29Grypheni know hob, but sort of inline with your discussion with reskar ;)
20:54.34Sky2042but its the only usage that i know of
20:54.55Sky2042and besides, popularity is "Mages", not "magi"
20:54.59Sky2042more popular*
20:55.12TecnoBratVery true
20:55.16Hobinheim|workthe bc template is being removed as i type...
20:58.57Sky2042I'm guessing you're going to get rid of bcarticle after?
20:59.18Hobinheim|workyeah
20:59.40Sky2042who?
20:59.46Hobinheim|workpeople in general
20:59.46Sky2042cockblock/
20:59.50Sky2042lol
21:00.02Hobinheim|workpeople who can't handle the truth. or a little banter
21:00.07Hobinheim|workor people who don't like being called out
21:00.12Hobinheim|workor don't know how to handle confrontation
21:00.14Sky2042oh, gryphen? =]
21:00.16Sky2042:P
21:00.21Hobinheim|workno, no one here
21:00.24Hobinheim|workjust people in general
21:00.28Hobinheim|workthe internet age, really
21:00.32Hobinheim|workproduced a bunch of wusses
21:00.33Sky2042:/
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21:04.04TecnoBratOkay, this is too awesome
21:04.04TecnoBrathttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v281/AvianTerminus/World%20of%20Warcraft/lolgmcopy.jpg
21:04.09TecnoBratIt made me laugh
21:07.44Sky2042lol
21:07.44Sky2042great timing by that gold seller
21:09.18Hobinheim|worki don't get it
21:09.22Hobinheim|workwhat was that convo about
21:09.26Hobinheim|workhard to read also
21:09.46Sky2042well, the ticket was that the guild was trying to get their guild master's name changed
21:09.56Sky2042then it turned into a whinefest about other things
21:09.57Devilkoulhah
21:10.03Sky2042wasn't really funny to me, but w/e :]
21:10.28TecnoBratBut what about the troll's feet!
21:10.32Tuqui-tuqui<PROTECTED>
21:10.32TecnoBratMust buff them!
21:10.36Tuqui-tuquiI thought it was hilarious :D
21:10.43Tuqui-tuquiI loved the timing of the spammer at the end :D
21:10.44Devilkouli love the "i played a pally" line
21:10.51Devilkoulin refereence to forums
21:11.13TecnoBratI guess its funnier when you used to play a troll mage as a main .. and then switched to a paladin
21:13.40Hobinheim|worki'm deleting bc article since it's only a redirect to bc...
21:14.11Sky2042sure
21:14.12Sky2042but get rid of its usage first
21:16.23Hobinheim|workobviously!
21:16.38Sky2042lol
21:17.03Hobinheim|workever play ff12?
21:17.18Hobinheim|worki need more games like ff12, where the allies just do what you say and don't complain much
21:17.20Sky2042nope
21:17.41Sky2042try raiding
21:17.50Sky2042that fits the bill, about
21:17.59Hobinheim|workff12 your guys are like.... players. and you're always in control of one, like the leader. but you can switch. and they're sorta on auto pilot. and you kinda contrl how and what style they auto pilot
21:18.10Hobinheim|workor you can go fully manual, which kinda goes against the ff12 battle system
21:18.22Hobinheim|workit makes me wish i could 5-man things in that style
21:18.37Hobinheim|workyou set the priest for a specific healing style, you set the tank to lead, and you set everyone else to follow
21:18.41Sky2042lol
21:23.27Sky2042(just thought of another bot request
21:23.35Sky2042hobin, there's one thing i need an admin for :/
21:25.56Hobinheim|workruh roh
21:25.57Hobinheim|workwhat's up
21:26.34Sky2042http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Elinks either needs to go entirely, or a change needs to made so as to make it produce "External links" instead of "External Links"
21:26.49Sky2042first requires a bot, the other requires an admin :]
21:26.55Hobinheim|workZOGG
21:27.15Hobinheim|workcould you post it on WW:BR
21:27.19Hobinheim|workor my talk page or something
21:27.24Sky2042mk
21:27.27Hobinheim|workerr i guess i'll do it if what you said is sufficent
21:27.35Tekkubfuck {{Elinks}}
21:27.40Hobinheim|workYEAH!
21:27.42Hobinheim|workMORE CURSING!
21:27.43Tekkubget it botted away :)
21:27.56Tekkubfuck zeeg too!
21:28.22zeeg?
21:28.28Tekkub!
21:28.43Tekkubwell we're at it, fuck clad
21:28.48cladhairek
21:28.55Sky2042lol
21:29.37Tekkubwhee... I get to try to figure out how to compile this thing...
21:29.42Tekkubmy boss is an ass :)
21:30.19TecnoBratOMG ...
21:30.26Tekkub"here's the SVN repo, you have to compile part of this thing in C++, it crashes importing data fix it.... I'm going to key West for a week"
21:30.40TecnoBratI just got a request to put an ad live ...
21:30.40TecnoBrat"Activate deeply hidden brain powers that give you "super human" abilities — in under 30 minutes!"
21:30.43Hobinheim|worktekkub, who said that?
21:30.50Tekkubmy boss :)
21:30.59Hobinheim|workTecnoBrat, who said that?
21:31.11TecnoBratHobinheim|work, its an ad
21:31.16Tekkubit's mostly bad timing, it worked out that I started just before his vacation
21:31.25TecnoBratI work for an ad agency
21:31.27TecnoBratI have to put that live
21:32.10Hobinheim|workzomg what do you do
21:32.10Hobinheim|workad agencies are cool
21:32.11Tekkuband the project is this big monstrosity, trying to convert an old standalone mapping app to a web service in Ruby
21:32.11Tekkubit's still got chunks of the C program in it
21:32.14Hobinheim|workyou know my bot ends in an infinite loop, still too lazy to fix it...
21:32.23TecnoBratI get to decide what ads we run .. and then enter them into our adserving software
21:32.29Tekkuband it can import his test data fine, but it shits itsself on the real data import
21:32.40TecnoBratRight now, I'm trying to track down some rogue porn ad
21:32.43Hobinheim|workmaybe the real data has some REAL CRAP in it
21:32.48Hobinheim|worklol rogue porn
21:32.51Tekkubdruid porn is better
21:32.52Hobinheim|worki'll shiv you from behind, baby
21:33.09Hobinheim|workmaybe run a validator on your real set first
21:33.13Hobinheim|workmake sure it's according to spec
21:33.16TecnoBratlol ... bad choice of words for this channel eh? :P
21:33.22Hobinheim|worksomething strict
21:33.25TekkubI don't even know what the spec is :)
21:33.44Tekkubhe knows that this week, especially with him gone, I won't get a damn thing done
21:33.45Hobinheim|worki'd play a rogue if i could bot it
21:33.55Hobinheim|work"WHAT AM I PYAING YOU FOR"
21:34.04Tekkubhe's just giving me something to do till I get stuck and frustrated
21:34.05Hobinheim|work"moonchild leggings"?
21:34.10Hobinheim|workwtf were they smoking when they copywrote that name
21:34.38Hobinheim|workso like... let's TOTALLY make an item called moonchild...
21:34.41Hobinheim|workyeah... MOONchild....
21:34.45Hobinheim|workor moonCHILD... ahhh
21:34.59Hobinheim|workit's some hippy druid caster item
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21:36.07Sky2042lol hobin, here's your chance! ;P
21:36.47TecnoBratHobinheim|work, yes, I'm that evil person that makes sure you see a ton of ads on the internet!
21:37.02Hobinheim|workmy chance for what?
21:37.05TecnoBratBTW, the ad had some good porn on it
21:37.13Sky2042loooooooool
21:37.14Hobinheim|workthere's only ONE type of good porn
21:37.22Tekkubbear porn?
21:37.26Hobinheim|workno man
21:37.28Sky2042uh... tekkub porn?
21:37.31Hobinheim|workenthusiastic porn
21:37.47Hobinheim|worknone of that "ugh i don't wanna be here" or "ugh i don't really want this in my mouth" or "uhh i'm not really trying" crap
21:37.54TekkubI hate porn where the guy looks at the camera... it's almost creepy
21:38.02Hobinheim|workyou should watch a porn and be like wow, he/she/that beaver is REALLY taking it like a champ
21:38.08Tekkubyes we're watching you, stop making me feel like a perv
21:39.34TecnoBratrofl
21:39.51TecnoBratThis was some "I'm naked, and I'm loving it" porn
21:40.46Sky2042um, hob
21:41.09Hobinheim|work?
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21:41.23Sky2042we should've added [[Category:Burning Crusade]] before removing {{bc}} >.>
21:41.33Hobinheim|workNOO!!!!!
21:41.39Hobinheim|workno, forget it
21:41.40Hobinheim|workno more changing
21:41.42Sky2042lol
21:41.44Hobinheim|workit will be deleted
21:41.51Hobinheim|workwork it out when the genocide is over
21:41.54Sky2042to each article silly
21:43.11Sky2042too late now ;/
21:44.05TecnoBratgogo looking at the bot's contribs and editing every page it edited?
21:44.18Sky2042no
21:44.29Hobinheim|worki can bot and anti-bog
21:44.30Hobinheim|work*bot
21:44.54Hobinheim|workthat's how i edged myself into admin
21:44.59Hobinheim|worki used a bot to make Kirkburn|afk a clean up trail in the path of a crazy vandal
21:45.06Hobinheim|workthis was when the wiki only had like two active admins
21:45.09Sky2042lol
21:45.27Hobinheim|workit was me and bull3t
21:45.29Hobinheim|workstaying up
21:45.33Hobinheim|workjust watching the wiki get destroyed
21:45.50Hobinheim|workif you go on my talk page, there's an "admin only link" that is actually linked to some profanity or whatever
21:45.58Hobinheim|workH0B IS A GIANT FAGGOT or something equally stupid
21:46.19Hobinheim|worki don't remember when it was but i think i styaed up for the whole thing
21:46.27Hobinheim|workthen Kirkburn|afk finally signed on and i was like ZOMG
21:46.42Hobinheim|workat that time i learned it's almost always better to let an admin do a revert than do it manually
21:46.52Hobinheim|workjust cuz there's a one click option that shows up on admin pages
21:47.07Hobinheim|workso the guy got blocked and we spent the rest of that morning cleaning it up
21:47.42Adysnn peeps
21:47.58Hobinheim|workque esta "nn" ?
21:48.07Sky2042nightey night
21:48.09Sky2042or some such
21:48.14*** kick/#wowwiki [Hobinheim|work!n=Miranda@APoitiers-256-1-64-71.w90-16.abo.wanadoo.fr] by Adys (Good night)
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21:48.14*** mode/#wowwiki [+o Hobinheim|work] by ChanServ
21:49.01Hobinheim|workman speak english
21:49.02Hobinheim|workit's GOOD night
21:49.02Hobinheim|workor NIGHT
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21:49.29Kirkburn|afkfneh, fneh
21:49.36Sky2042loooooooooooooooooool
21:49.40Sky2042gryphen is queer
21:49.43Sky2042lol
21:49.46Hobinheim|workwhat is the first argument to kick?
21:50.00Teomyrby teh way, new url for quotes: http://teo.selfip.net/wowwiki-quotes.txt
21:50.09*** kick/#wowwiki [Sky2042!n=Hobinhei@207-38-224-165.c3-0.43d-ubr9.qens-43d.ny.cable.rcn.com] by Hobinheim|work (Kick)
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21:50.10Gryphen/kick Sky2042
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21:50.14Sky2042fuck dude
21:50.15Sky2042lol
21:50.16Kirkburn|afkSecond is reason
21:50.23Hobinheim|worki must be looking at old docs
21:50.28Hobinheim|workit says /kick * name reason reason reason
21:50.34Sky2042why the fuck did -i- have to be kicked? :(
21:50.55Sky2042and then gryphen threatened to kick me
21:50.58Sky2042whyyyyyyyyyyy
21:51.44Hobinheim|workyou called him queer
21:51.51Hobinheim|worki don't know if that's at all accurate
21:52.06Sky2042queer != a queer
21:53.01Hobinheim|workho!!!!
21:53.04TecnoBratenlighten me
21:53.24Hobinheim|worki hates me gay, not A gay, hurr
21:54.26TecnoBratIsn't "queer" like the same thing as weird or something?
21:54.29Sky2042"queer" means "strange". "a queer" is slang for "a homosexual". see?
21:54.42TecnoBratahh yea .. thats what I thought you were referring to
21:54.47Hobinheim|workwait what does voice do in this channel again?
21:54.52Sky2042uh oh
21:54.56Sky2042bad hobinheim
21:55.07Teomyrvoice = cool user
21:55.19Sky2042it means you can't shut me up in case you decide to mute the channel :]
21:55.30TecnoBratheh, yea .. what Sky said
21:55.32Hobinheim|workoh
21:55.36Hobinheim|worklike if we had a lock down
21:55.39TecnoBratset the channel +m, and I cant talk .. but they can
21:55.39Hobinheim|workNO IDIOT ZONE
21:55.42Hobinheim|workor GOON WEEK
21:56.50Hobinheim|workoh god
21:56.56Hobinheim|worki'm destroying item articles
21:56.57Hobinheim|workFUCK
21:57.06Hobinheim|workdammit
21:57.10Hobinheim|workugh...
21:57.14Hobinheim|worki knew this would happen
21:57.24Sky2042lol
21:57.25Sky2042oh well
21:57.38Hobinheim|workfuck fuck
21:57.39Sky2042if the noincludes are still in, we're alright
21:58.02TecnoBratlol lets see an example
21:58.06Sky2042when they transpose, that's when we're fucked, which is why i hated your icon template change ;(
21:58.08Hobinheim|worknow i gotta bot my own shit
21:58.12Sky2042http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Ironsole_Clompers&action=edit
21:58.20Sky2042http://www.wowwiki.com/Ironsole_Clompers
21:58.21Hobinheim|workhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Mok%27Nathal_Clan_Ring
21:58.54TecnoBrathaha
21:58.59TecnoBratouch
21:59.14Teomyrhobinheim = noob
21:59.21Hobinheim|worksucks..
21:59.27Hobinheim|workSTUPID
21:59.37Sky2042hob, it only killed pages which had nothing between the {{bc}} and ==Source==
21:59.45Sky2042have a look at http://www.wowwiki.com/Seth%27s_Graphite_Fishing_Pole
21:59.54Hobinheim|workyeah and i can't think of a neat way to fix that. i like to be particular...
21:59.54Sky2042one of the pages edited
22:00.20Hobinheim|workman that's a lot of frekain pages...
22:00.22TecnoBratreplace <noinclude>= with <noinclude>\n= ?
22:00.44Hobinheim|workhmm good news
22:00.47Hobinheim|workit's less than 500
22:00.54Hobinheim|worki'm gonna have to re-bot it
22:00.57Hobinheim|workugh... so silly
22:01.20Hobinheim|workgonna make a proofread bot... and then think of a way for the other bot to stop sucking
22:01.55Hobinheim|workyou know Kirkburn|afk warned me about this earlier when i was modding {{bc}}
22:02.04Hobinheim|workand in the back of my mind i knew this same issue would creep up again
22:02.14SiTRiCis anyone a warlock?
22:02.37Hobinheim|worki am
22:02.45Hobinheim|workif you need help talk here or leave something on my talk page
22:02.47Hobinheim|workOR LOOK IT UP
22:02.49Hobinheim|worki gg
22:02.49Hobinheim|worklater
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22:04.17Tuqui-tuquihttp://www.scrubs-ysera.com/gallery/rubixcube.jpg
22:04.19Tuqui-tuquiawesome
22:05.08Sky2042uh... wtf?
22:05.18Devilkoulhaha
22:05.34TecnoBratYea, the item has no graphic for trolls
22:06.02Devilkouli used to play Ut2k4 with a guy named Oobie
22:07.17Devilkoulhttp://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/01/bush-timetable-2  .. rofl, gj bush
22:07.47Sky2042LOOOOOOOOOL
22:07.49SiTRiChey.. can i complete the deadmines SOLO?
22:07.58SiTRiCis it possible?
22:08.01Gryphen:/
22:08.07SiTRiCwith a monster?
22:08.13SiTRiCand a warlock
22:09.17SiTRiClevel 26
22:09.17Sky2042no
22:09.17Devilkoulneg
22:09.18Sky2042maybe a paladin at that level, but it would take you a day
22:09.18Sky2042lol
22:09.18TecnoBratwith a monster?
22:10.22Sky2042pssssssst an imp
22:11.17SiTRiCvoidwalker
22:12.14Sky2042w/e
22:12.30*** join/#wowwiki Thoron (n=bergmart@ti211310a340-1541.bb.online.no)
22:12.34Devilkoulprobably whenever you get an the next rank of your lock aoe spells, dunno when that is (havnt leveled a lock)
22:13.14ThoronQuick question: Is there a level req for profs above 300?
22:14.29Sky2042probably
22:14.38Sky2042there's a level req for profs above 225, so...
22:15.04ThoronHm.. good point...
22:15.22Devilkoullvl 50 i think
22:15.59TecnoBratahhh a demon :) ... Sorry monster left my brain hanging .. I couldn't figure out what you meant
22:16.09Devilkouli know you need to be lvl 50 to go beyond 300 skill for enchanting
22:16.54Thoronyep, its 50 for every skill ;)
22:16.57Devilkoulhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Profession
22:17.05Devilkoul:)
22:17.19Thoron:) I just dinged 50
22:17.26Devilkoulgratz
22:17.31SiTRiChey can someone make a video showing how to get a soul shard..... demonstrate it? i cant seem to get it.
22:17.33ThoronBut I need to get to the Outlands... hmmm...
22:17.51TecnoBratSiTRiC, you have to channel the spell as the mob dies
22:18.07TecnoBratso you have dots, etc on the mob .. channel the spell .. keep channeling until the mob dies
22:18.19SiTRiCits not working for me..... i'm doing something wrong
22:18.31TecnoBratso you probably want to wait to channel it until the mob is at like 20% health or lower
22:18.36SiTRiCit just gives me a message "interrupted" when it dies
22:18.49TecnoBratif the spell runs out of its duration before the mob dies .. you wont get a shard
22:18.57TecnoBratalso, make sure your bags arent full :)
22:18.58SiTRiCit doesnt run out
22:19.06SiTRiCit is interrupted when it dies
22:19.25Devilkoulhttp://www.wowgoldblog.net/warlock_tips_wow.html
22:19.32TecnoBratyou are using "drain soul" not "drain life" right?
22:19.34Devilkoulmaybe that will help SiTRiC
22:19.58SiTRiCdrain soul
22:20.23Devilkoulare you trying to cast other spells while channeling?
22:21.12SiTRiCno.... there are already other curses on the mob
22:21.17TecnoBratalso, as the mob hits you .. he will knock your channeling bar down, until you get an "interrupted" message
22:22.27SiTRiCmy imp keeps the mob busy while i try the drain soul
22:22.45ThoronAre the 300+ skills usually quests?
22:22.47TecnoBratso the mob is beating on the imp at the time?
22:22.52TecnoBratoh...
22:22.56TecnoBratthe mob has to be green to you
22:22.58TecnoBratgreen or better
22:23.04TecnoBratyou cant get a shard from a grey mob
22:23.12SiTRiCfirst i was trying it on a dust monster.... which gave me experience.. then i levelled up.. and can find no such experience giving monsters in westfall
22:23.16TecnoBrat(the color of their level text)
22:23.31TecnoBratahh yes, thats why .. they have to give you experience, or no shard.
22:24.24SiTRiChey. i'm a lvl 25 warlock... where can i find more of these.... are there any more in westfall?
22:24.33Devilkoultry duskwood
22:24.38Devilkoulto the east
22:24.39TecnoBratduskwood (the zone to your east)
22:24.55SiTRiCk.... is it a spooky place?
22:24.57SiTRiC;)
22:25.12Devilkoulfor a warlock?  NO WAI!
22:25.12TecnoBratyou can probably classify it as that
22:25.13Devilkoul:PO
22:25.25TecnoBratI have leveled way too many character through there
22:25.50SiTRiCso is this experience system linked with my level?
22:25.56Devilkoulya ya
22:26.06SiTRiCcause when i leveled up those mosters stopped giving me XP
22:26.29TecnoBrathttp://www.wowwiki.com/XP
22:26.37TecnoBratShows you a great chart
22:26.50Devilkoulohh, that is nice
22:26.50SiTRiCthx.
22:26.58TecnoBrat(speaking of which, that needs to be updated for 60-70
22:27.11Devilkoulafk, fone
22:29.48SiTRiCwow... that chart is really helpfull
22:30.23SiTRiCnow i know which level monsters to find.... YaY!!
22:32.10Kirkburn|afkHe plays on an emulated server, guys
22:33.08Kirkburn|afki.e. he no be deservin' yo help :P
22:34.07Devilkoulaww :/
22:34.34Bibi`ouFoh my god !!!!!!!!!
22:34.39Bibi`ouFwowwiki is stealing my bandwith !!!!!!
22:34.53Bibi`ouF+!!
22:34.56Devilkouloh noes
22:35.08Devilkoulpics or it didnt happen
22:35.09Devilkoul:P
22:35.18Bibi`ouFyes, they've been linking 1mb jpg files !
22:35.25Devilkouloh jeezus
22:35.36Bibi`ouF(note : I don't care actually.)
22:36.13Devilkoul\( 'o' )/
22:36.15Kirkburn|afk"They" means little on the wiki
22:36.27Bibi`ouFthe others !
22:36.36Bibi`ouFactually, it's fun
22:36.43Bibi`ouFi got 200 hits from wowwiki
22:36.57GryphenChannel rules: Absolutely no discussion of how to exploit, emulated servers...
22:36.57Bibi`ouFand i'm getting 2500+ hits from small sites, leeching my whole content
22:37.09Devilkoul$.$
22:37.18Devilkoulhope you got ads
22:37.19Devilkoulhehe
22:37.37Kirkburn|afkBibi`ouF, any idea what images, where?
22:37.37Bibi`ouFwhen i say hits, I mean people linking image on my site without linking the site itself
22:37.54Bibi`ouFKirkburn|afk : 2.1.0 changes, but really, it doesn't matter :p
22:38.26Bibi`ouFi'm more worried by wow.gamemeca.com forums generating 3500 hits in a day :p
22:38.59Bibi`ouFoh, 5000 actually
22:39.42TecnoBratKirkburn|afk, oh, I didnt know that .. I'm just generally a nice guy I guess! :P
22:40.04Kirkburn|afkTeomyr pointed it out a few hours ago
22:40.18Kirkburn|afk<Teomyr> [15:48 12.04.2007] <SiTRiC> and btw.. i'm playing on a private server
22:40.25TecnoBratlol
22:40.34Kirkburn|afkC'mon, 25 and didn't know how the game worked?
22:40.45Devilkouli dunno if helping him with lock mechanics is considered exploit discussion, but i see your point 4 sure dont get me wrong
22:40.47Devilkoulunderstoof
22:40.48Devilkould*
22:41.17Kirkburn|afkI'm not annoyed or anything, but just be wary :)
22:41.21Devilkoul:)
22:42.34TecnoBratwe just don't want to attract those kind of people
22:49.37TecnoBratI checked my total playtime on all of my chars the other day
22:49.39TecnoBrat250 hours
22:49.47TecnoBraterr days
22:51.36Devilkoulyoungin
22:51.39Devilkoul:P
22:52.15TecnoBratlol what is yours at?
22:52.30TecnoBrattotal /played
22:52.55Devilkoularound 300
22:52.58Devilkoulhehe, not much more
22:53.33TecnoBrat250 is too much imo, especially with a fulltime job and a son, heh
22:53.40Devilkoulyea
22:54.35DevilkoulLF 12 step program
22:55.15TecnoBratwoot, hockey game tonight
22:56.05Devilkoulis hockey in semi's?  (dont scorn me, hehe)
22:57.38Devilkoullooks to be
22:57.42winkillerhttp://xkcd.com/c244.html
23:01.02TecnoBratCanucks play tonight :)
23:05.21Devilkoulim looking forward to mavs vs. warriors tonight
23:21.08TecnoBratOh, you mean like when the Canucks beat the Stars in the first round?
23:21.17TecnoBrat:P
23:21.44Devilkoulhehe, oh ye
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23:45.07vlad_woo, go canucks!
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23:48.32ThoronCan you get to the Outlands at level 50?
23:50.06sancuswith a summon or a mage portal, yes
23:51.21ThoronMage portal to? Whats the name of the place I whould need a portal to?
23:54.11TecnoBratvlad_, you a Canucks fan I assume?

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