IRC log for #wowwiki on 20070430

00:06.47Sandwichman2448Let us talk about WoWWiki.
00:06.54Kasowhat about it
00:07.27Sandwichman2448Yeah, What?
00:07.46KasoYoure the one who wanted to talk about it!
00:07.55Sandwichman2448Yes.
00:08.23Kasoits customary to have a topic in mind when you say you want to talk about osmething
00:09.00Sandwichman2448Umm...
00:10.11Sandwichman2448Slanik. Is he the boss of Zul'Aman? Or Warlord Jin'Zakk? Zul'Jin?
00:10.34Sandwichman2448Slanik is a vandal who keeps saying he is the boss.
00:10.51Sandwichman2448that is a topic.
00:12.44Sandwichman2448Have I vandalized anything? Am I really an idiot?
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00:13.52KasoSeems to be a vandlism
00:13.54Adys<PROTECTED>
00:14.34Sandwichman2448H to you to Sir,
00:14.49Skosirisis h some lazy way of saying hello?
00:14.49Sandwichman2448Is that a joke?
00:15.08Skosirisoptimized way, should I say :P
00:15.29Depheriosefficiency FTL
00:15.38Sandwichman2448What do you mean I vandalized something?
00:16.05Kasono
00:16.21Kasothe changes to make zul'whatever's boss that thing
00:16.25Kasoits late here
00:16.34Sandwichman2448An Admins word is law if "h" is used by one as a greeting, then it is an acceptable greeting.
00:16.46AdysI type /ch to join wowace and /c to join wowilounge
00:16.47Sandwichman2448OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.
00:16.56Adysand my keyboard stopped working
00:17.01Adysbut hi everyone :P
00:17.19KasoAdys there's this feature that allows you to auto-join channels you know!
00:17.30AdysI still have to find it in miranda >>
00:17.54Tekkubis vladder back yet?
00:17.59Tekkubor still vacation?
00:25.49Kirkburn|afkTekkub, he's back
00:25.50Adysyeah
00:25.59Kirkburn|afkBut right now he's at a BBQ, apparently :P
00:25.59Tekkubyatta!
00:26.47Kirkburn|afkYou can't un-yatta, can you? ;)
00:27.04Adyseh oO?
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00:29.31Kirkburn|afkAdys, so what about those translations eh?
00:29.31Kirkburn|afkThat damn gf of yours distracting you? :P
00:29.49Adysdoh
00:29.53AdysI do it now ><
00:29.54Kirkburn|afkUnless she's there, in which case "hello!"
00:29.56Adysrelink plx
00:30.03Adysshes asleep >>
00:30.05Kirkburn|afkI'm going to bed, shall look for the link, sec
00:30.17Kirkburn|afkWell wake her and tell her I said hello, duh :P
00:30.58Adysmeh :p
00:31.04Kirkburn|afkhttp://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/ClearFont2/Core.lua
00:31.15Kirkburn|afkTo bed!
00:31.21Kirkburn|afkSee ya'll 2moro
00:31.25Adysnn :)
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00:39.13Adyswhat is "rudimentary" supposed to mean in "This option is rudimentary"?
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00:40.38Sandwichman2448Hello
00:40.42Adyshey
00:42.14AdysI know what rudimentary means
00:42.23AdysI just don't understand it in there
00:42.39Adysanyways leaving it there
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01:29.57Sandwichman2448Quiet today...
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01:30.15*** kick/#wowwiki [Sandwichman2448!n=tekkub@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/Tekkub] by Tekkub (You ruined the silence)
01:30.22Tekkub^^
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01:31.29Tekkuband you're slow
01:34.20Sandwichman2448Sorry
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01:45.23Kitanwow Tek
01:45.24Kitanseriously
01:45.32Tekkubyup, srsly!
01:49.06Sandwichman2448What?
01:49.19AdysMOOKAKA MOOKAKA MOOKAKA MOOKAKA MOOKAKA MOOKAKA
01:49.26AdysDANCE BABY DANCE DANCE DANCE
01:49.28AdysWOOOOHOOO
01:49.35Adysinfobot, entertain us!
01:49.46infobotACTION grabs 5 random objects and begins to weave them through the air in a display of superior juggling skill for us!'s entertainment whilst whistling Einzug der Gladiatoren by Julius Fu?ík
01:50.01Adysinfobot, l2grammar
01:50.12Tekkuboh oh can I kick infobot?  I'd enjoy that the most
01:50.23Adysi really wanna do that sometimes :<
01:52.16TekkubI hate infobot so very very much
01:52.21Sandwichman2448Why?
01:52.35Tekkubit's not useful, it's just mildly amusing to see how far you can push it's filter
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01:52.58tjsmight be a little off topic..
01:53.10tjsbut is anyone here running serpentshrine?
01:53.19Sandwichman2448...Then how is it juggling if its not a person?
01:53.37Sandwichman2448I'm too low.
01:53.49Tekkubwe have a topic?
01:54.02tjslol
01:54.51tjsjust wondering if a slightly pre-karazan raid group could handle grinding trash in serpentshrine?
01:54.53Sandwichman2448There is NEVER a topic.
01:55.40Depheriosoh there's a topic
01:55.43Depherios"Topic is 'Channel info: tinyurl.com/36u82j | RC list: tinyurl.com/2oawam | UI questions? Join #wowi-lounge | Go vote! http://tinyurl.com/366sje | Nominate a Featured Article today! WW:FA | Go vote! WW:EL'"
01:55.47Tekkublast time I heard about trash in SS was like "2 people blah blah took down first trash blah blah spawns 20 things when dies blah blah my ass still hurts" the other day
01:56.18tjsah
01:56.35Tekkubso maybe, dunno
01:56.35tjsafter wildfury greatstaff
01:58.15tjs'The key quest for this fortress requires the defeat of both Nightbane and Gruul'
01:58.17tjsdamn
01:58.23tjswell I guess there goes that idea
01:58.53winkillerlol, awesome vent rant thread
01:58.57winkillerAlexander the Great never typed "kk pulling egyptians cc plz all heals on me"
02:01.25Sandwichman2448True, for they did not have Comps back then! LOL
02:01.39Sandwichman2448Eh...
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02:35.14Kaydeethreeoh damn. nothing like being on an adrenaline high after finally killing magtheridon
02:35.53Kitansweet
02:35.54Kitangratz
02:36.35Sky2042sweeeeeeet
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02:36.52Sky2042infobot, kitan is cool.
02:37.04infobot...but kitan is already something else...
02:37.11Sky2042lol
02:37.14Tekkubinfobot, you suck
02:37.16infobotand very well I might add
02:40.33Sky2042so quieeeeeet
02:43.09Sky2042that wasn't loud enough
02:43.41Skosirishuh
02:43.43equiraptorinfobot: Kitan?
02:44.00infobotRemember, Kitan is not Kirkburn.
02:44.00equiraptorinfobot: kitan?
02:44.10infobotRemember, Kitan is not Kirkburn.
02:44.11equiraptorheh
02:47.08Sky2042infobot, kitan is also cool
02:47.15infobotSky2042: okay
02:47.24Sky2042infobot, kitan?
02:47.30infobotRemember, Kitan is not Kirkburn. cool
02:47.39Sky2042lol
02:47.55Sky2042kitan: sky2042
02:47.58Sky2042lol!
02:48.02Sky2042infobot, sky2042
02:49.11Sky2042infobot, sky2042 is a wiki god
02:49.13infobotokay, Sky2042
02:49.19Sky2042infobot, sky2042
02:49.21infobotwell, sky2042 is a wiki god
02:49.26Sky2042;)
02:50.05Kitaneh?
02:50.47Sky2042lol
02:57.58Sky2042wiki broke for me. anyone else?
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03:00.33Sky2042blgh
03:18.21Sky2042mm
03:29.56Sky2042lol gryphen, wtf?
03:30.42Sky2042ah
03:41.09TecnoBrat(yes, I know, delayed), wiki is working for me
03:42.40Sky2042LOL
03:48.48Sky2042did you know curse gaming has a wowwiki too/
03:48.50Sky2042?*
03:49.36TecnoBratreally?
03:50.05TecnoBratthats 900% awesome
03:50.39Sky2042that's not over 9000 though...
03:52.17Sky2042skosiris
03:59.19Sky2042wtb  skosiris, pst
04:11.10Sky2042skosiris ssssss
04:14.54Sky2042shit man]
04:15.42Skosirisyes ?
04:15.46Sky2042lol
04:16.03Sky2042what does "Random enchantments listings have been simplified. They are now grouped by name (e.g. of the Bear) and shows a range for the random values. (e.g. Abjurer's Tunic)" mean?
04:16.10Sky2042weren't they that way before?
04:16.15Sky2042and those maps are cool, btw :]
04:16.26Skosirisnope
04:16.34Sky2042so what's the difference?
04:16.38Skosiristhere used to be 1 "row" for each variant
04:17.06SkosirisI mean..
04:17.16Sky2042lol
04:17.17Skosiristhere used to be more than one listing for (for instance) of the Bear
04:17.26Skosirise.g.
04:17.26Skosirisof the Bear
04:17.26Skosiris+10 Stamina
04:17.26Skosirisof the Bear
04:17.26Skosiris+11 Stamina
04:17.30Sky2042oh
04:17.31Skosirisnow it's displayed that way:
04:17.40Skosirisof the Bear
04:17.40Skosiris+(10 - 11) Stamina
04:17.41Sky2042i see
04:17.58Sky2042might want to change that note then ;x
04:18.03Sky2042i was like, wtf?
04:18.08Skosirislol
04:18.13Skosirisany suggestions?
04:18.30Sky2042nope! :P i'll see what i can think up
04:18.55Sky2042what's another word for converged... ack
04:19.09Skosirismerged?
04:19.25ThraeSkosiris: Fancy Intercourse
04:19.26Sky2042yeah, but there's another word that i'm trying to think up
04:19.33Sky2042lol thrae
04:20.09ThraeSkosiris: Actually, "arrived" can be used for most cases
04:20.10Sky2042consolidated
04:20.43Sky2042one sec
04:22.56Sky2042random enchantments listings have been simplified. the item suffixes (eg, of the bear) have been consolidated, and each show the range of values possible
04:23.27Sky2042of each attribute (between "vallues" and "possible")
04:24.32Skosirisawesome!
04:25.17Skosiris"Random enchantments listings have been simplified. The item suffixes (e.g. of the Bear) have been consolidated, and each shows a range of values for each attribute possible."    ?
04:25.32Skosiriseach possible attribute*
04:27.51Sky2042works
04:29.56Skosirishttp://www.wowhead.com/?underdev
04:30.22Skosirisbe sure to let me know should you have another 'wtf?' moment while reading the Under dev page
04:30.29Skosiris(or any other page)
04:30.33Sky2042:]
04:31.31Sky2042ok, something else sko
04:32.14Sky2042why are there 2 tabs for "contained in" on http://www.wowhead.com/?item=9946
04:33.37Sky2042hobinheim, lern2identify, imo
04:34.00Skosiristhis is something I'm looking into at this very moment
04:34.06Sky2042hehe
04:34.21Skosiristhe reason why there are 2 separate tabs is because the 2 tabs each contains a different type of thing
04:34.33Skosiristhe first one shows items, while the 2nd one shows objects
04:34.54Sky2042ah
04:34.58Skosirisboth can't be merged into 1 table, because the columns are different and wouldn't match
04:36.05SkosirisI was thinking of merging both tabs into 1 "Contained in" tab, and adding some "sub-tabs" underneath
04:37.50Sky2042that would work
04:37.52Skosirisanother solution would be the have the 2 "contained in" tables displayed one after the other, but this could cause issues when the tables contain a lot of rows
04:37.52Sky2042maybe
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04:46.26Sky2042almost 3.5k edits
04:46.30Sky2042contribs*
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05:04.30Sky2042you should just tag hawkspur as a bot tekkub :D
05:04.44TekkubI don't have that power
05:05.13Sky2042pft
05:05.17Sky2042play along, silly!
05:08.58Sky2042ok
05:09.02Sky2042wtf is going on
05:17.59Sky2042when will ppl figure out how to use "[[wikipedia:article]]? :(
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05:26.15HJTgood morning
05:27.22Sky2042ello ello
05:31.02HJThm, should i do now some boring PHP'ing or go on with the formatting of http://www.wowwiki.com/BC_healing_equipment_%28cloth%29? ;)
05:31.56Sky2042that page should be tweaked
05:32.22Sky2042change the "Links" to "EL" and make the link abbreviated, such as "Wowhead" to "WH"
05:34.18Skosirisalso, be sure to change any Thottbot links you find to Wowhead ones
05:34.19HJTuhm... my personal priorities would be to format the last few things in a table
05:34.43HJTwhy not TB?
05:35.34Skosirismost of the links on the page are WH ones. so, just for the sake of uniformity I guess :)
05:35.39Sky2042wowhead > thott
05:35.48Sky2042this is undeniable
05:36.40HJTfor quests i mainly use TB, for items (anyway very seldom) alkazama (spelling?) coz of the german translation
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05:40.06Sky2042damn the german translations!
05:40.08Sky2042:P
05:41.14HJTsome ppl on my (german) server do NOT run an english client
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05:41.32HJTok, its indeed only a few, but anyway...
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05:41.48Sky2042_have a look at the 2h weapon section
05:41.59Sky2042_an mp5 section could be added now, eh? :)
05:43.07Sky2042_or int, or spi, or w/e
05:43.24Sky2042_in fact, those tables should be converted to %s... not everyone has the screenspace that vyso does :/
05:43.24HJTARGH! now i was formatting ALL the links together and coz of u, Sky2042, i can do it again :s
05:43.46Sky2042_just copy paste over my edit :]
05:45.31HJTfor me it works nice (1600x1200)
05:45.39Sky2042_oh, it's great on mine too
05:45.52Sky2042_just... not everyones :/
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05:48.12Sky2042_oh
05:48.19Sky2042_huh
05:48.41Sky2042_skosiris
05:49.33Sky2042_lol
05:49.38Sky2042_now fix the healing one :P
05:50.04Sky2042_skoooooooooooo
05:50.09HJTuh
05:50.22HJTtitel is about 250% longer than content :s
05:50.22Sky2042_again, have a look at the 2h weapon spot
05:50.41Skosirisyeaa :D
05:50.41Sky2042_and that's preferable to having content longer than the title, imo
05:51.18Sky2042_can you add an option to filter (only) by items which increase healing, rather than just (pretty much) any item that increases spell damage?
05:51.33Sky2042_you have the healing option, but that grabs -everything-
05:51.45Sky2042_+healing, as well as +healing and spell damage
05:51.54Sky2042_it would be nice to have a filter just for +healing
05:51.59HJThow where what where????
05:52.04Sky2042_not you h
05:52.20HJToh
05:52.30Sky2042_that is -not- 250%. only about double the length -_-
05:53.07Sky2042_and you can center it :]
05:55.33Sky2042_ack@baggins
05:56.19SkosirisSky: huh
05:56.58Skosirisplease give me a sample link that explains it all :)
05:57.40HJTuh, who's the idiot that wrote all +Healing in the cloak section with a capital letter? :S
05:58.01Sky2042_currently, when a person filters an item by "healing done by spells", we get items which include "increases healing by x" as well as "increases damage and healing by x". it would be nice to have a filter which only looks for the first kind, rather than both
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05:58.08Sky2042_http://www.wowhead.com/?items=4.1&filter=sl=5;minrl=61;maxrl=70;cr=50;crs=1;crv=0
05:58.30Skosirisoh
05:58.44Skosiristhere you go: http://www.wowhead.com/?items=4.1&filter=sl=5;minrl=61;maxrl=70;cr=50:51;crs=1:3;crv=0:0
05:59.21Sky2042_ah
05:59.24Sky2042_ok :)
06:01.22SkosirisYour skill in Filtering has increased by 1.
06:02.01Sky2042_LOL
06:02.03Sky2042_OWNED
06:02.14Sky2042_who is kd3?
06:02.18Sky2042_:x
06:02.36Kaydeethreesome random forum troll in UI and the Netherwing article editor
06:02.43Sky2042_ah
06:03.00Sky2042_hi some random forum troll in UI and the Netherwing article
06:03.09Kaydeethreehullo
06:03.20Sky2042_infobot, Kaydeethree is some random forum troll in UI and the Netherwing article editor
06:03.32infobotokay, Sky2042_
06:03.42Sky2042_infobot, Kaydeethree
06:03.52infobotkaydeethree is, like, some random forum troll in UI and the Netherwing article editor
06:03.52HJTwhats the wiki command for centering table contents?
06:04.00Sky2042_^^^
06:04.03Sky2042_dunno
06:04.08Sky2042_(hjt)
06:04.12Kaydeethree"<center>"?
06:04.30Sky2042_uh... no
06:04.32Sky2042_:p
06:05.56HJT-.-
06:06.00KaydeethreeHelp:Editing seems to think "<center>Centered text</center>" works
06:06.16Sky2042_yeah
06:06.20Sky2042_but it's going into a table
06:06.22Sky2042_>.>
06:07.45Sky2042_btw, that page would be really easy to fill up...
06:07.52Sky2042_you could even template it :]
06:09.28Kaydeethreehttp://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Sandbox/3
06:09.33Kaydeethree<center> inside of a table
06:10.10Sky2042_yeah... now extend it to every row beneath it ^_^
06:10.40HJThttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Table but is bitta too complex :s
06:12.41HJTi may have an idea to test...
06:13.30Sky2042_{| style="color:white"
06:13.30Sky2042_|-
06:13.30Sky2042_| bgcolor="red"|cell1 || width="300" bgcolor="blue"|cell2 || bgcolor="green"|cell3
06:13.31Sky2042_|}
06:14.56HJTouch, that hurt :s
06:15.11HJTmajor messup in prev
06:15.13Sky2042_i think i know how to tweak it
06:15.42Sky2042_fail
06:18.43Sky2042_hmm
06:18.53Sky2042_maybe i'll finally learn how to make tables :]
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06:19.38HJTSTRIIIIIIIIKE!
06:19.41HJTi got it
06:19.51Sky2042_show it to me!
06:19.56HJTtable looks something like that (a single row of it)
06:20.05Sky2042edit it ffs
06:20.10HJT|bla||bla||bla||
06:20.17HJTgoes to
06:20.28HJT|bla||bla||align="center"|bla||
06:20.40Sky2042hmph
06:20.46Sky2042i wanna see it :[
06:21.34HJTall WH entries r now formatted that way
06:21.51HJTso have a look, ill do now the TB ones
06:21.53Sky2042blgh
06:22.03Sky2042i knew that was what it was going to take :/
06:22.47Sky2042this is almost to the point where it should just be templated. lol
06:23.41HJTi have NO CLUE in making templates, but feel free to go on =)
06:24.09AdysSkosiris beep
06:24.13Sky2042eh, it would be pretty easy to do it in this case
06:24.26Sky2042i'll do it some other day :]
06:24.36HJTah
06:25.01HJThope i havent died untill that day ;)
06:25.05Sky2042just so long as everything uses wowhead :P
06:25.52Sky2042hmm
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06:26.44Sky2042well, hmm
06:26.48Sky2042i'm not sure it needs it
06:26.54Sky2042i'll think about it :x
06:27.40Sky2042Prince, damn you. He's Prince Kael'thas!
06:27.58HJTi gonna add now space for an mp/5 col...
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06:46.05Sky2042tekkub: "External links"
06:46.12Tekkubwhat?
06:46.12Sky2042since you seem to be cleaning happy anyway :P
06:48.21Tekkubokey... anyone in kara?
06:48.38Tekkubwhoever submitted Oz event quotes didn't capitalize I
06:48.47Tekkubit's not like that in game right?
06:48.59TekkubI don't think Blizzy is that pathetic
06:49.26HJTok, now tehre is space for mp5, please contribute: http://www.wowwiki.com/BC_healing_equipment_%28cloth%29
06:49.28HJT=)
06:49.33Sky2042lol
06:49.52Sky2042i dunno tekkub...
06:49.54Sky2042<PROTECTED>
06:50.03Sky2042word automatically makes it "I" so...
06:50.14TekkubI'm fixing them, I bet they're wrong cause he did it on more than one page
06:50.15Sky2042you'd think they'd be using a better processing program than that
06:51.31HJTi wouldnt say so...
06:53.47vlad_hm
06:53.52vlad_Kirkburn|afk?
06:53.53vlad_damn, afk
06:53.56vlad_Hobinheim|dead?
06:53.58vlad_damn, dead
06:53.59vlad_wtf!
06:54.16sancuswhats your problem
06:54.44Sky2042lol
06:54.49Sky2042qft sancus, qft
06:55.54vlad_sancus: I was going to pull the trigger on 1.9.3
06:55.59vlad_but would rather do it when people were more awake :p
06:56.00sancusthe fuck
06:56.13Sky2042LOL
06:56.18TekkubI'm awake enough for everyone
06:56.18Sky2042vlad_, you're mean :P
06:56.21vlad_old theme seems to work mostly fine?
06:56.26vlad_or close enough
06:56.30sancusI thought you wanted me to do some stuff
06:56.31sancusguess not!
06:56.35TekkubI can go to the store and get a 4pack of those big ass Amp drinks if you want more
06:56.46Slagert(havent looked into editing myself much yet, but Adys made me join this channel)
06:56.55Slagertbut http://www.wowwiki.com/Shade_of_Aran -- loot pics are broken
06:56.56Tekkubbut I'll warn you, I'm likely to just get tired, mass doses of caffine do that to me
06:57.07Adysaye slag a problem with hobinheim's template
06:57.10Tekkubtell Adys I hate him
06:57.17*** kick/#wowwiki [Tekkub!n=Miranda@APoitiers-256-1-95-57.w86-201.abo.wanadoo.fr] by Adys (Adys)
06:57.26Sky2042lol
06:57.29*** join/#wowwiki Tekkub (n=tekkub@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/Tekkub)
06:57.29*** mode/#wowwiki [+o Tekkub] by ChanServ
06:57.32Tekkuband, it's a wiki fix it yourself!
06:58.00Adystekkub still no autorejoin?
06:58.08TekkubseXchat doesn't do it
06:58.16AdysWhy do you use porn clients?
06:58.18Sky2042hobinheim's has his bot going occasionally...
06:58.24Tekkubwhy not?
06:58.31Adysbecause they dont autorejoin
06:58.45Tekkubno bots going ATM
06:58.50Sky2042yeah
06:59.01Sky2042he's had it fix more than a few though
06:59.08Tekkubme, baggins, bragus, HJT are editing a bit
06:59.33Tekkublike <2dozen edits over the last half hour, I think you're safe vladder
07:00.02Sky2042he wants to do it when there's like, 300< edits per half hour, just to see our reaction :D
07:00.06Slagertbleh, making account then. The *'s behind e-mail and real name on the signup form are non-intuitive btw, as they're usually indicative of mandatory fields (which real name isnt)
07:00.22Sky2042...
07:00.36TekkubSlagert, that's the mediawiki software prolly, not our settings
07:00.45Slagertah ok
07:00.45Tekkubif it is our settings, it's all vlad's fault
07:01.08Sky2042it's prolly possible to edit though, just not from our positions...
07:01.13vlad_hrm
07:01.20Tekkubbut there ARE *notes at the bottom so I'll blame it on you :)
07:01.23Sky2042see vlad_ run
07:01.28Sky2042watch vlad_ run
07:01.38Tekkub* Real name (optional): if you choose to provide it this will be used for giving you attribution for your work.
07:01.38Tekkub* E-mail: Required to edit pages, and allows us to e-mail your password to you if you forget it. If you also "Enable e-mail from other users", then others can e-mail you from your User or User talk page by using the "E-mail this user" feature. Note that the sender's e-mail address will be visible to the recipient. If you change your e-mail address, you will need to reconfirm your address.
07:01.43Tekkubrun vlad run!
07:01.50TekkubC
07:01.52TekkubC:\
07:01.56TekkubC:\run
07:02.08Sky2042looool
07:02.23Sky2042when it gets late, this channel gets scary
07:02.37HJTlate??? for me, its 9am =)
07:02.48Sky2042for me, it's 12am
07:03.00HJTgonna get some breakfast
07:03.02Sky2042damn norwegians
07:03.05HJTtill later
07:03.11Sky2042or germans, or w/e you are
07:03.23Tekkub9am?  you must be a tibetan gold farmer
07:03.34Sky2042omg omg omg
07:03.40Sky2042look who just editeD!
07:03.51HJTand i gonna get me now some breakfast
07:03.53Tekkubthe chineese get all the bad press, but the tibetan's are ruthless
07:04.09HJTtill later...
07:04.11Tekkubs/'//
07:04.38SlagertI agree Tekkub on the notes, but it's still counter-intuitive ;)
07:04.57Tekkubpfft, it's a wiki, edit it
07:05.01Tekkuboh wait
07:05.01HJTwhen i come back, all mp5 values r inserted on http://www.wowwiki.com/BC_healing_equipment_%28cloth%29, right?
07:05.11Tekkubdamn that excuse is so handy
07:05.27Tekkubthey're already there
07:05.42Sky2042lern2?
07:06.23TekkubPOCKY!
07:06.45vlad_sancus: want to collect a set of extensions to install?
07:06.50Tekkubgod I love being back in CO, grocery stores besides walmart have Pocky here
07:06.54vlad_basically grab the dists and have them all in one place ready to go when we do the upgrade
07:06.59sancusvlad_: uh, now?
07:07.05vlad_not right this second
07:07.07Tekkuband the oriental shops in the mall have different flavors
07:07.10vlad_but maybe nefore tomorrow or tuesday night?
07:07.10sancusgood
07:07.16sancuswell
07:07.27vlad_I'd check wikipedia.com's or wikia.com's Special:Version for a list of ideas
07:07.36Tekkubthis include the CSS and/or javascript import majicks too?
07:07.37Sky2042it's commmmmmming
07:07.39sancussome admin type person
07:07.42vlad_ParserFunctions is a must, Cite, DynamicPageList, etc. are all useful
07:07.45sancusmake a wiki page on the village pump or something
07:07.48vlad_Tekkub: yeah
07:07.49Sky2042dum dum dum dum dum dum dum dum
07:07.51sancusasking for extension requests, please
07:07.53Tekkubparser parser parser!
07:07.53sancusTekkub
07:07.54vlad_sancus: there is one
07:07.56TekkubCSS!
07:07.56sancusoh
07:07.57sancusthere is?
07:07.58sancuswhere is it
07:08.07Tekkubit's like xmas in Apr!
07:08.22Sky2042wikimas
07:08.24Sky2042:]
07:08.29Tekkubwixmas
07:08.31vlad_but damned if I can find the page
07:08.33Tekkubwican xmas
07:08.39sancusWhere is the page requesting extensions?
07:08.47sancusadmin-type people?
07:09.01vlad_http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Server_requests
07:09.08vlad_ParserFunctions and CheckUser
07:09.18sancusSVG Image upload?
07:09.19sancuslol
07:09.29TekkubMakeBot might be nice, I think only Kirk can botify
07:09.47sancusadd futher requests on that page
07:09.56sancuser further
07:10.07sancusI'll find them and give them a sanity check
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07:11.52Sky2042what's a sanity check?
07:12.22Sky2042;]
07:13.23Sky2042btw, i didn't know holding ctrl in firefox allowed me to change the browser resolution...
07:13.25Sky2042:o
07:15.19Sky2042hey you firefoxy types: anyway to make this a permanent setting?
07:15.22Sky2042>.>
07:15.38Tekkubhuh?
07:16.20Sky2042hold the control key in firefox, and then zoom (using the mouse wheel or other apparati)
07:17.11Tekkuboh
07:17.18Tekkubyea I think IE does that too
07:17.28Sky2042maybe
07:17.34Sky2042-i- didn't know about it
07:22.16Sky2042at least, i didn't remember it...
07:22.40Sky2042too bad baggins isn't on here..
07:25.17HJTarent there any new legendary items on PTR?
07:25.29HJTheard a rumar that weekend...
07:26.17Sky2042have a look at wowhead
07:26.21Sky2042they're on there now ;P
07:30.49HJTfinally found em... theyr so uber-1337....
07:31.34Tekkubhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=30320
07:31.36Tekkubhehe
07:31.54TekkubWould be great fun to see "Faggot of Nether Spikes"
07:31.59Sky204263 added dps
07:32.04Tekkubdrive the immature childrens mad
07:33.11Sky2042hjt
07:33.12Sky2042http://www.wowhead.com/?items&filter=qu=5:6
07:33.17Tekkubso do you give the bow and the arrows to the same hunter, or spread em out to even out DPS?
07:33.29Sky2042depends on gear, i'd say
07:33.40HJTSky2042: used http://www.wowhead.com/?items&filter=qu=5;minrl=70;maxrl=70
07:33.49Sky2042guess that works
07:33.54Tekkuboh, "use: summon bundle"
07:34.01Tekkub<PROTECTED>
07:34.02HJTas qu=6 is worthless
07:34.08Sky2042not gear, rather, it should be given to the hunter with the best dpsing skills i think
07:34.27SkosirisTekkub: not sure if this information is correct, but the site says the bow is a Party loot ("When this item drops, each member of the party gets one!")
07:34.40Tekkuboh niftyness
07:34.55Tekkubso everyone gets their hand at a legendary, that's actually a good idea
07:35.22Tekkubyou made it this far, we'll level the playing field and put everyone who hits this encounter it the same gear
07:35.27Sky2042it's not permanent... it's like the atiesh encounter
07:35.32Sky2042-_-
07:35.34Tekkubyea
07:35.44Sky2042ah
07:35.57foxlitOnly weapons, if memory serves?
07:36.00Sky2042yeh
07:36.05Sky2042see link by hjt
07:36.08foxlitProbably to compensate for the resistance gear if any required
07:36.13Sky2042actually, one shield
07:36.19foxlitSeen stuff on guild forums.
07:36.22Sky2042and a set of arrows
07:36.28Sky2042:o
07:39.43Sky2042omg, ap tests are next fucking week
07:44.10HJTand... where do u get these items?
07:46.05Sky2042fight against kael'thas
07:46.09Sky2042black temple
07:46.17Sky2042or maybe illidan
07:46.21Sky2042not sure
07:46.54Sky2042tempest keep = kael'thas
07:49.01HJTok... i wonder if these items disappear after u killed him or if u can use them in all instances in tempest keep :D
07:50.14Sky2042prolly the former
07:54.09HJThum, M/5s, MP/5 or MP5?
07:55.41HJThuh, just got an idea: u get something u can these items change that they wont disappear and that u can use em everywhere
07:58.26Slagertmp5
07:58.39Slagertthe slash indicates "per" as it is
07:59.21Sky2042Mp5
07:59.25Sky2042;p
07:59.28Slagertand M/5s isnt used a whole lot
08:00.50HJTill change that soon
08:02.31HJTcapital or not?
08:02.34Sky2042mikk > tekkub
08:02.41Sky2042MP5, prolly
08:02.44Tekkubfine be me, I try to be nice
08:02.55Sky2042i personally like Mp5, but MP5 is prolly used more
08:02.57Sky2042:P
08:03.01Sky2042(tekkub)
08:03.04Tekkubwas gonna tell em all to lay off or I'd give em all timeout
08:03.14TekkubI like MP/5
08:03.31TekkubMP5 says to me Mana Point #5
08:03.46Sky2042MP/5 isn't used anywhere that i've seen
08:03.48Sky2042:x
08:03.54TekkubMP5 says to me Mana Point #5
08:03.59Tekkubgah
08:04.05Tekkubthank you up key
08:05.14HJTMp5 is not suitable for Tekkub?
08:05.28Tekkubno, it's MP not Mp
08:05.29Tekkub:P
08:05.41Tekkubtagging on a 5 changes nothing
08:05.52HJTstfu
08:06.00Tekkubunuless it's supposed to mean Mana per 5
08:06.08Sky2042Mana per 5
08:06.11Tekkubin which case I'd use M/5
08:06.22Sky2042you are a sad creature
08:06.23Tekkubor just M5 Industries
08:06.31TekkubM5 it is!
08:06.55HJTi put it as Mp5, whoever feels insulted can change it
08:07.20TekkubI still think it should be MP/5
08:07.21Sky2042http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Jaym/Sandbox1/Item
08:07.25Sky2042ooooo
08:07.32Sky2042mana per per 5 tekkub
08:07.36Sky2042don't be silly
08:07.42Tekkubbut then, I also think the terms "Tier 0.5" and "Tier 2.5" should be done away with
08:07.48Tekkubthey were never tier gear :P
08:07.54Sky2042they were to the raiders
08:07.58TekkubD1 and D2!
08:08.04Tekkubraiders are lemmings
08:08.09Sky2042true
08:08.14Tekkubone person names it something and they all use that
08:08.47foxlitT2.5 == AQ40
08:08.54TekkubFFS, D2 is simpler to type than T.5 is
08:09.18Sky2042except it was t0 to begin with
08:09.24Sky2042and it was weaker than t1 gear
08:09.25TekkubD1
08:09.29Sky2042so they named it t.5
08:09.33TekkubD2
08:09.33Sky2042t0 tekkub
08:09.37Sky2042always been t0 to them
08:09.44Sky2042not even the raiders
08:09.45Tekkubtehy're brainless masses!
08:09.48Sky2042everyone's called it t0
08:09.51Tekkubraiders == scourage
08:10.00Tekkuber, I added a lettter
08:10.03TekkubGAH!
08:10.15Sky2042lol
08:10.15Tekkubokey, I need some alchy to improve my typing
08:10.18Sky2042courage or scourge?
08:10.22Sky2042;P
08:10.25Tekkubgood thing I'm not trying to do real work
08:10.26HJTthat map poitner thingy, creepy :D
08:10.32Sky2042yeh, that is
08:10.41Sky2042it's like, the new wowhead feature without the wowhead
08:10.43Sky2042:X
08:10.55Tekkubwas aiming for scourge, but scourage gave it a bit of a optomistic note I didn't want
08:11.06Tekkubmap pointer?
08:11.26foxlitTek's a filthy casual!
08:11.33Sky2042http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Template:Location&rcid=524948
08:11.34Tekkubcasual?
08:11.42TekkubI did most of my addon coding in 40mans
08:11.46Sky2042he just made it a global template
08:11.52Sky2042kewl
08:12.03Tekkubneat
08:12.11TekkubI threw an idea at skos the other day
08:12.25Tekkubyou know how head's zone pages give a map with quest NPCs?
08:12.42Sky2042make your own dots, right/
08:12.43Sky2042?*
08:12.51Sky2042lern2underdev, nublet
08:12.55HJTfor the template page, add a list of some marking icons, and maybe a list of all maps
08:12.57TekkubQuest pages should giuve a map with the quest giver/turnin and the target mobs or the mobs/nodes where you get the item
08:13.02foxlitSteal a dot from somewhere useful; star is ugly!
08:13.08Sky2042truth fox
08:13.12Sky2042star -is- ugly
08:13.24Tekkubfuck the star, give a target circle
08:13.25HJTget the skull instead =)
08:13.27Sky2042i'll tag that for my watchlist
08:13.30Sky2042Lol tek
08:13.32Tekkuboh oh, a bouncing hunter's mark
08:13.47foxliton the whole map!
08:13.57Skosiristhe elinks on this page are linking to some invalid quest, instead of the proper NPC: http://www.wowwiki.com/Oronok_Torn-heart
08:14.00foxlitstack like 50 animated gifs!
08:14.13Tekkub4 bouncing hunter's marks, rotated to bounce from all 4 directions
08:14.36Tekkuboh noes it's skos
08:14.52Sky2042skos remember his password from 2 years ago
08:15.00Sky2042he has an account now >:)
08:15.47Sky2042it was just -quest instead of -NPC sko
08:16.07Sky2042damn you tekkub! i thought mine was a null edit :(
08:16.12Sky2042anyway, i r going to sleep now
08:16.57Tekkubthat map there is massive for a static image
08:17.20Tekkubthunmbnails are yous friend!
08:17.41HJTor a 'go here for quest map'
08:18.02dottedTO THE BATCAVE!
08:18.53HJTcan we teach infobot to change wiki links to urls, [[Stormwind]] is http://www.wowwiki.com/Stormwind?
08:19.01TekkubTO THE BEARCAVE!
08:19.13Tekkubso my boss loved our wireless network's SSID
08:19.27HJTTO THE TEKKUB-CAVE
08:19.29foxlit"Bearcave will be nerfed in a future patch due to player complaints"
08:19.40TekkubBearden
08:19.41Tekkub^^
08:19.44Tekkubhe liked the password even more...
08:20.15Tekkubbighairybearballs *grin*
08:20.36dottedTekkub where do you work? *evil grin*
08:20.40Tekkubhome
08:20.44dotted:(
08:21.02Tekkubsigned the paperwork today, I'm officially his contract-to-hire code monkey
08:21.29Tekkuband he upped my rate from $15/hr to $16/hr just to make it a "nice round computer number"
08:21.39dottedhar har har
08:21.47Tekkub$640 a week :)
08:22.23dotted*calculates into the danish currency*
08:22.37HJTnot bad
08:22.51Tekkubfunny thing is that's just slightly less a week than what I made in a month at walmart before we moved
08:23.26Tekkuband he says I have potential to make a lot more if his current clients get the funding they're after to expand the current projects and start another
08:23.37dottednice
08:23.41Tekkubhe'll give me a raise when he hires me on too, of course
08:24.02Tekkubhubby's already making his own plans to go back to school next year
08:24.28dottedi want to be a home working programmer aswell :( but i dont have the patience npr the talent for it :/
08:24.41dotted*nor
08:25.00TekkubI have the patience, I've been doing exactly this with WoW addons for 2 years
08:25.13Tekkubjust hope I have the willpower to make myself work 40hr weeks
08:25.19dottedmust be a pain to code wow addons
08:25.23Tekkubbut once I'm really good at Ruby I think I can
08:25.39Tekkubnah, addons are easy, as long as you don't care about any users
08:25.41Tekkub^^
08:25.48dottedhaha
08:27.36dottedi ould just imagine doing /console reloadui all the time could get slightly annoying
08:27.54Tekkub<PROTECTED>
08:28.08Tekkubfirst thing every coder adds :)
08:28.37dottedwell
08:28.46dottedit takes taime to do
08:28.49dotted-a
08:29.31dottedi was wondering, do you really need to be good at math to do good at programming?
08:29.37Tekkubpfft no
08:29.48Tekkubit's not math but more logic
08:30.00dottedWe thought you would like to know that the following items have been successfully processed and will shortly be dispatched to you by Royal Mail First Class post.
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08:30.04Tekkubbreaking a goal down into the computational steps needed to get there
08:30.05dottedyay \o/
08:30.45Tekkubonce you wrap your head around loops and functions and such, you're good to go
08:30.57dottedi have yet to discover the secret to programming, every thing is code is inefficient ugly and one giant hack :/
08:31.56dottedexcept for mirc script which i have a slight idea how to do, but i still suck at it :p
08:32.03Tekkubso start by taking other code and hacking at it to do what you want
08:32.15Tekkubit's easist to learn off existing, working code
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08:32.20dottedidd
08:32.47Tekkubding fries are done!
08:33.00dottedthats why all i code is a big hack, just random code put together and for some odd reason it doesnt break
08:33.01Tekkubhrm... addon idea
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08:33.14dottedi tried to code an addon for wow
08:33.21TekkubI dispise "auto ding" and "auto grats" mods
08:33.26dottedbut i really dont get lua
08:33.42Tekkubso I'm gonna write one that will randomly reply "Fries are done!" when it sees a "Ding"
08:33.52dottedhaha
08:33.55dottedlol great
08:34.11Tekkubhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IfH6dYZLzE
08:34.49dottedbut the idea for my addon was great tho, being able to search for anything in the guild tab - i believe fisker suggested it
08:35.04dottedi tried to look at how atlas and atlasloot did search
08:35.08dottedand i was like, huh?
08:35.13dottedand i gave up :p
08:35.21Tekkuboh god, that's the worst example of code to start with
08:35.26Tekkubstart on something small
08:35.38dottedsmall and easy is no fun :p
08:36.11dottedsomething that actually can be used by people is fun
08:36.24Tekkubthanks...
08:36.38Tekkuball my mods aim to be small, simple, and super powerful
08:36.54dottedwell that are usable
08:36.55Tekkubmassive and does everything under the sky mods blow
08:37.12dottedi said small and easy
08:37.19foxlitpower leads to evil, evil leads to excessive lifestyles, excessive lifestyles lead to obesity.
08:37.23dottednot small alone, l2read :p
08:37.23foxlitHence, powerful mods are always fat.
08:37.24Tekkubhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4896-TheLowDown.html
08:37.49Tekkubthere, small, easy for you to get, and does something that makes you say "why the fuck isn't this in the default UI?"
08:38.12dottedyou still developing Squeenix?
08:38.19foxlitThat or "why the fuck do I need it?"
08:38.40Tekkubfox must never scroll up
08:38.43Tekkub:)
08:38.48dottedidd
08:38.49foxlitI just usually scroll back down
08:38.50Tekkuband yesno....
08:39.12TekkubI want to finish Dongling it, but I want a config GUI before I really do any more
08:39.12foxlitPlus that pagedown button flashes like a christmastree whenyou get new messages if you aren't at the bottom.
08:39.27Tekkubsome people don't have the pagedown flash button
08:39.44dottedlike me
08:39.49Tekkubsee!
08:39.53dottedbut thelowdown is build into prat isnt it?
08:39.55foxlitI thought _that_ was part of the default UI
08:40.04dottednot everyone uses default ui
08:40.10Tekkubpart that wastes my space! :)
08:40.21Tekkubyea he's just pointing out my arguement :)
08:40.39JunkHead-WorkWoW Tekkub
08:40.40JunkHead-Workhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6931-FriendsWithBenefits.html
08:40.40Tekkubwhich I do agree, first thing I get rid of includes the chat buttons, I forget they flash
08:40.43JunkHead-WorkI like this!
08:40.53foxlitdotted: and if you don't, you clearly don't need something that modifies the default UI?
08:40.57TekkubFWB is another "nneds to be in the default UI" mod
08:41.05JunkHead-WorkI agree.
08:41.10Tekkubwhy friends list isn't global across a server boggles me
08:41.23JunkHead-Workhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6958-HatTrick.html <-- also nice.
08:41.24dottedfoxlit that doesnt make any sence :S?
08:41.40TekkubHat was a ripoff/cleanup of some other mod
08:42.06Tekkubone of the gems that someone posts once to curse and it just gets burried in the mass of "I made a compilation for my guild" shit
08:42.27foxlitCompilations need to die
08:42.29dottedTekkub how far are you with dongle?
08:42.31foxlitPainfully.
08:42.39Tekkubcompilations need their own damn sites
08:42.59Tekkubwowinterface should spawn wowintecfacecompilations and ban comps from wowi
08:43.05Tekkubmake em wowic only!
08:43.10TekkubYOU HEAR ME CAIR?
08:43.15TekkubCAIR!!!!!!!
08:43.15dottedlol
08:43.37JunkHead-WorkI am planning on chanigng up my UI.
08:43.38foxlitdotted: As far as I can see, Tek pointed at a mod that makes the _default_ chat frame scroll down when it's up. If you didn't modify it to begin with, you wouldn't need that as pagedown button flashes erratically whenever you get a message you can't see. Anything you've done to the frame is your own fault, so end result is that the mod is a cleanup after someone else's code :)
08:43.46Tekkubdot, dongle's out of beta, but we don't have the GUI lib even like, started
08:43.47JunkHead-WorkI want something cleaner looking.
08:43.48foxlitwall of text :/
08:44.00Tekkubfox is right dot
08:44.13Tekkubbut I think the default GUI should still have a timeout reset :)
08:44.57foxlitMy problem is that I usually forget to switch back to the default chat after watching CHAT_MSG_ADDON for too long.
08:45.19Tekkubheh
08:45.34TekkubI love turning that on and outing all my guildie's mods
08:45.35foxlitHave a different tabs for when I need to debug communcation (since
08:45.39foxlit"RAID" is more or less spam)
08:45.46Tekkub"so and so is using blahguildmapmodthing"
08:45.56foxlitStill have to figure out which mod sends with the idiotic numeric headers.
08:46.11TekkubI'll bet it's KTM
08:46.15Tekkubgod I hate KTM
08:46.23foxlitAgreed.
08:46.24TekkubI need to add more stuff to KMFDM and release it
08:46.30dottedso when dongle is more or less finished and there are mods using it would it be more effiecent to use than ace?
08:46.43foxlitI kill KTM before it reaches that frame, though
08:46.47Tekkubdot, I'm going to slap you now
08:46.54dottedpure dongle vs pure ace
08:47.03dottedall efficiently coded ofc
08:47.03foxlitpure addon!
08:47.20Tekkubdongle's meant to do the bare basics we need
08:47.27dottedah
08:47.28Tekkubnot all the extra fluff ace has gotten
08:47.40foxlitAce kills ingeniuty, tbh.
08:48.00Tekkubkinda funny, you look at Sea back when Ace was starting Ace2, and what we made fun of there... and that's Ace2 now
08:48.01dottedlol?
08:48.17foxlitThings tend to cycle back and forth between extremes.
08:48.24Tekkubyup
08:48.54foxlitLooking at all of the ace-based competing buff mods, _all_ of them use pre-coded localization for spells, buffs and so on.
08:48.56Tekkubthe real issue is ckk never shared the goal of simplicity, aonly the goal of efficiency
08:48.58dottedmeh is ratingbuster still crappy?
08:49.20Tekkubas opposed to what fox?
08:49.28TekkubRB has improved a lot
08:49.43foxlitMore sinister solutions.
08:49.52dottedbut still crap, i still get 100+ kb/s randomly
08:49.54dotted:((
08:49.56Tekkubhe added a cache, which was the first good step, and he rehashed his parser to remove the compost/table nasties he was doing
08:50.17Tekkubyou sure that's RB's fault?
08:50.21dottedno
08:50.24Tekkub:P
08:50.26foxlitIf they release WoW-morsecode edition, my addon would still work; pre-localized stuff wouldn't.
08:50.34dottedbut i like to blame that particular addon :d
08:50.58Tekkubthere's some locale stuff you can't get from the client fox :P
08:51.06foxlitI know.
08:51.14foxlitAnd spellnames are one of them, I've been there.
08:51.18TekkubI always aim for "works in all locales" but it's not always possible
08:51.31Tekkubbut yea, babble has made people lazy on locales
08:51.32foxlitThing is, I do texture-matching on spellbook
08:51.45TekkubI never liked babble too much, it's so friggin massive to load
08:51.49foxlitAnd it gets me the correct spell names for the current character. If I wasn't lazy, I'd share those too.
08:51.57Tekkubtextures aren't 100% either
08:52.05Tekkubbut they work a good 90% of the time
08:52.44foxlitTHe only thing I can think of where it'd break is the warlock stone spells (evil, that!)
08:52.51Tekkubbuff textures are more of a problem than spells tho
08:52.52dottedWTB Tekkub as personal Luand and WoW addon tutor 1g
08:52.58dotted*Lua and
08:53.05Tekkub:P
08:53.22foxlitBut then again, I never have to use them directly, so it's all good.
08:53.25Tekkubyou can always ask me shit when I'm around
08:53.35dottedvitual impossible to get a good noobie tutorial for lua :((
08:53.54Tekkublua or WoW's API? :P
08:54.01Tekkublua is fairly simple
08:54.02dottedboth
08:54.19Tekkubself is the first big "complex" idea in lua
08:54.26Tekkubmetatables are the second :)
08:54.34Tekkubget those and you're good
08:54.43Tekkuband metas are optional, but good for efficiency
08:55.12dottedand then there is stuff like good pratice and all that stuff
08:55.28Tekkubthat you learn bit by bit, code is always evolving
08:56.07dottedwhat do programming language to learn nowadays? C#?
08:56.22dotted*the
08:56.25dotted-do
08:56.25Tekkubfuck if I know
08:56.26dotted:S
08:56.49dottedi just dont like .net very much tbh
08:56.50TekkubI self-taught myself java then took C++, and tutored in the class at the same time
08:57.01Tekkubyou're sposda only tutor classes you've passed :)
08:57.38Tekkubgod I hated tutoring, at a community college the tutees are always inept, hence why they're failing and need tooted
08:57.43Tekkubit was... dismal
08:58.09dottedmaybe i should get Dan Gilberts book
08:58.26TekkubGan Dilbert?
08:58.31Tekkubthat's promising
08:58.45dottedthe guy that did atlas etc
08:59.00Tekkuboh, Clad had a hand in that book I think
08:59.17Tekkub"Hacking WoW' or some crappy name they didn't like
08:59.20Tekkubright?
08:59.24dotteddunno
08:59.57Tekkubhttp://www.amazon.com/Hacking-Warcraft-ExtremeTech-Daniel-Gilbert/dp/0470110023
09:00.04Tekkubyup, clad helped on that book
09:00.12dottedHacking World of Warcraft
09:00.18dottedoh
09:00.27dottedthx for link
09:00.42Tekkubit's an aweful name, but you know marketing
09:01.08dottedwhy is it awful?
09:01.18dottedwriting addons is hacking
09:01.22foxlitBecause I want to haxxors WoW!
09:01.47foxlitOr whatever the saying is, anyway.
09:02.36Tekkubhacks ores
09:02.51dottedlol
09:03.04foxlitPoint is, there's only one well-recognized meaning of hack in relation to IT
09:03.06dottedi thought the book was already out
09:03.23dottedfuck that :p
09:03.39foxlitAnd it isn't "To write or refine computer programs skillfully"
09:03.47Tekkubuh, think clad helped with V2
09:03.53Tekkubmaybe I'm all wrong who knows
09:04.16dottedthe book is to be released 30 of June :/
09:06.35dottedi hope DanG ace's atlas2 then i'm allmost running pure ace2 mods
09:07.22dottedexcept for NECB :((
09:09.43foxlitWhat's the obsession, tbh?
09:10.36dottedwith ace?
09:10.42foxlitYes.
09:11.17dottedother than the 20 megs of memory that was lowered by going pure ace :P?
09:11.29dottedwell almost pure ace
09:12.06foxlitWhat's 20 megs of memory to you? :)
09:12.25dottedalot, atleast back when i only had 512 megs of ram
09:12.58dottedand the GCs whas a pain to go through when i didnt use ace
09:13.08dotted10 seconds freeze minimum
09:14.18dottedthe only problem with ace is that it isnt very newb friendly
09:15.09dottedand that ppl use the ace updater mindlessly because they are newbs
09:16.06foxlitTbh, you can avoid painful GC without using ace.
09:16.19foxlitShouldn't really make decisions on library usage.
09:16.24dottednot with my needs
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09:17.04foxlitThat doesn't make sense.
09:17.34dottedit doesnt?
09:18.25dottedi dont like the default ui
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09:18.45Apollozeuslawlz
09:18.59dottedso that means an addon for unitframes, actionbars etc
09:19.02ApollozeusAdys, you here? D:
09:19.07Adysyeah
09:19.32Tekkubugh I should try to go to bed
09:19.49foxlitAnd?
09:20.28foxlitGC isn't directly influenced by whether you use Ace or not; it's perfectly possible to write an efficient addon without using any library at all.
09:20.43dottedi'm aware of that
09:21.06foxlitSo why the goal of running pure ace?
09:21.36Tekkubpeople like too much of a good thing
09:22.01dottedbecuase it helped my get my wow run effiiently (it was before wow 2.0), so why should i go back now that i have already made the switch?
09:23.04foxlit"I've learned how to add, why in the world do I need to learn multiplcation?"
09:23.30dottedto me its more like
09:23.51Tekkubcan we just end the ace discussion?
09:23.59dotted"I've learned how to add and multiply, why in the work go back to only add?"
09:24.02foxlitNot until someone gets hurt!
09:24.07Tekkubit's the same ace vs. anti-ace convo, they get tiring
09:24.08dottedno Tekkub its great fun
09:24.47foxlitI'll settle for "I've always known how to add, learned how to multiply, now why do I need to add things?"
09:25.56dottedhuh?
09:25.56dotteddoesnt make any sence
09:25.56foxlitAre you actively avoiding non-ace addons?
09:25.56Tekkubsense doesn't have to be made
09:25.57dottedno
09:25.57foxlitThen we're fine, dimissed.
09:25.57foxlit*dismissed
09:26.06dotted...
09:26.24dottedits funny tho
09:26.35dottedi tried teKompare
09:26.43TekkubtK will be dead soon
09:26.46dottedand thats a very small addon
09:26.50dotted(long time ago)
09:27.03dottedbut i found tht my GC problem returned
09:27.06TekkubI love when I ask slow ken for something to enhance my mod, and he takes it a step further and makes my mod unneeded
09:27.19dotted:D
09:27.55Tekkubthe GC issue has to do with Blizzy's wonderful "All item tooltips need to refresh OnUpdate cause they *might* have a cooldown time running
09:28.21Tekkuband if something's modifying the tK tooltips that's likely where the GC is coming from
09:28.31dottedhowcome EQCompare didnt get my any GC issues?
09:29.25TekkubEQ compare does it very differently
09:29.47Tekkubthe other compares hoow the GameTooltip:Set* stuff that only get called once
09:29.52Tekkubhence they only draw once
09:29.57dottedah
09:30.12TekkubtK uses the new OnTooltipSetItem thing
09:30.19Tekkubwhich gets called every refresh
09:30.50TekkubI wish blue would make tooltips only go onupdatey if the item really is in cooldown
09:31.00Tekkubbut meh, not my problem come 2.1
09:41.13dottedlalalalalalallalalalalaa
09:41.13dotteda
09:41.39dottedbrb
09:41.47Tekkubokey, bedtime fo realz
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12:19.02HJTuh, my wow just got a serious when i entered Area 52... freeze, had to reboot
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12:29.34Kirkburn|afkMorning!
12:29.48Kirkburn|afkvlad_, pong for whenever you're around
12:33.06dotted~emulate Kirkburn
12:33.22infobotYes, Microsoft! Harder!
12:33.22dotted:(
12:33.29Kirkburn|afkit's just slow :P
12:33.31dottedlollag
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12:55.39AagheHi
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12:56.27KitanHello all
12:57.12Kirkburn|afkHeya
12:57.14Kitanwhy do people recreate templates
12:57.37Kirkburn|afkWhich what?
12:57.45Kitanhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Icon_simple
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13:03.24Kirkburn|afkKitan, weird, why even bother :/
13:03.31Kitanthat was kind of my point
13:03.37Kitanwhy rewrite the wheel
13:03.38Kitanshrug
13:03.55Kitanthey clearly knew about Icon
13:06.54Kirkburn|afkBring it up later when people are about :)
13:06.59Kirkburn|afkI'm off for a while, bbl
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13:45.00Hobinheim|workyou know, for a new icon template... it's totally unused
13:45.07Hobinheim|worki feel like deleting it
13:45.33equiraptorHrm... I should probably just look at the wiki...
13:45.38Hobinheim|workby the way, i realize i left a partial mess last week by trying to convert tooltips, but i'm working on a better way for the bot to sweep the wiki
13:45.38equiraptorIs there much up on Swift Flight Form yet?
13:45.51Hobinheim|workthe epic flight form? the new one?
13:46.01Hobinheim|worksomeone posted a link to a guild's wiki that outlined like every quest
13:46.12Hobinheim|workposted a link in chat i mean
13:46.31equiraptorYeah.
13:46.32equiraptorAh.
13:46.45equiraptorhttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=40120 wowhead claims it's called Swift Flight Form.
13:47.07equiraptorI'll check my logs / scrollback.
13:47.51Hobinheim|workit was like last week
13:53.24equiraptorHrm. I can't seem to find it yet.
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13:57.11equiraptorhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=94073863&sid=1 That should work.
13:57.17equiraptorI knew the wiki would help me find info. :)
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14:29.38Hobinheim|workanybody know perl?
14:29.49Hobinheim|worki'm making a module, WoWWiki::Bot :D
14:30.04Teomyreww...perl
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14:42.58Kitan|workI know some perl hob... probably not enough to help you if you have a question however
14:43.42Hobinheim|workno, no question. just showing off =)
14:46.12Kitan|workahh
14:46.17Kitan|workgood luck with that then. :)
14:55.59Hobinheim|worki'm a perl programmer by occupation. i better know my shiz =(
15:00.34Kitan|workI wasn't implying you didn't
15:02.01Hobinheim|worki wasn't implying that you implied that i didn't 0_o
15:12.57Kitan|workheh
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16:00.56Hobinheim|workso, who's excited about Starcraft 2!!!!
16:01.03Hobinheim|work~starcraft
16:01.18infobotwell, starcraft is a game made by blizzard http://www.blizzard.com
16:01.18Kitan|workdid they announce it?
16:01.58|Pixel|it wasn't announced
16:02.00|Pixel|yet
16:15.10Devilkoulit's a Lost Vikings MMO, not SC2
16:15.15Devilkoul;P
16:15.20|Pixel|blackthorn!
16:15.23Devilkoulhehe
16:15.54TecnoBratI'd like to see blizzard make a realistic graphics mmo
16:15.58TecnoBratlike warhammer
16:16.21TecnoBratI dont know if you have seen the graphics in that game, but they are a totally different style to wow, and amazing
16:16.24Devilkoulso they can become dated 2 months post release, yay
16:18.10TecnoBrathow can graphics like this become dated? http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/media/images/screenshots/full/SS0423_Chosen_07.jpg
16:18.54Devilkoullooks like they gave up on the feet
16:19.02Devilkoulbut yea, dem do look good
16:20.11TecnoBratdifferent style from wow tho
16:20.11TecnoBratif they make a SC mmo, it will be the same graphic style as wow I bet
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16:41.12Tuqui-tuquihow do they see in that thing
16:41.16Tuqui-tuquitiny slits for the eyes
16:41.24Tuqui-tuquithen you have the shuolders blocking half your view
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17:09.56TecnoBratow
17:10.16TecnoBratI played 2 baseball games yesterday, I already hurt! /whine
17:22.17squidare there any wowwiki gurus on at the moment?
17:24.57Kirkburn|afkWhat do you mean?
17:25.33squidany of you people who own the site?
17:28.27Kirkburn|afkNope, but I am an admin
17:28.27Kirkburn|afk(The owners are on atm, but I don't want to bother them unless it's important)
17:28.46squidno worries
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17:29.48Hobinheim|workwhat's up...
17:30.18Hobinheim|workso yeah i think i made some real progress on my "find all pages linked to this template" mechanism
17:30.27Hobinheim|workwhich would tie directly into that mess i left last week
17:30.35Hobinheim|workand, make future bot edits a little less ghetto!
17:31.15Hobinheim|workok i lied it's still broken :(
17:32.25Kirkburn|afkAww :(
17:32.47Devilkoul:P
17:32.54Devilkoul.png.png
17:33.08Hobinheim|workoh well back to work
17:33.16Devilkoulyou see that hobs?
17:33.23Devilkoulim sure someone pointed it out already
17:33.33Devilkoulsince i was mia all weekend
17:33.35Hobinheim|workwhere?
17:33.51Devilkoulicon on all boss lewts
17:33.55Devilkoulimage link
17:33.59Hobinheim|worklemme see
17:34.02Hobinheim|worklink
17:34.03Devilkoulhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Nightbane_(Boss)
17:34.12Punkie``yeah i just changed one
17:34.17Devilkoulyea, thought someone woulda already pointed it out to ya, sry
17:34.22Hobinheim|workoh yeah
17:34.24Hobinheim|workthat's all me
17:34.24Hobinheim|work<PROTECTED>
17:34.27Devilkoul:/
17:34.42Punkie``http://www.wowwiki.com/Warpforged_Key
17:34.43Hobinheim|worki have to finish my bot
17:35.15Devilkoulnyways, time for meeting bbiab
17:35.20Hobinheim|workcuz it's really tedioius
17:35.20Hobinheim|workthe current state as of last week was semi-automatic
17:35.20Hobinheim|workand i wanna try making it fully automatic
17:35.20Hobinheim|workbut thanks for letting me know
17:35.40Devilkoulcoo
17:35.43Devilkoulenn pee
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17:39.15KasoOkay
17:39.55KasoSo; 1.6AP is aproximately equal to 1 Spell power, as we can see from this quest
17:39.55Kasohttp://www.wowhead.com/?quest=5213
17:40.16KasoEnchant Bracers - Brawn gives 24 AP at the cost of 6 Dust
17:40.34KasoEnchant Bracers Spellpower gives 15 Spellpower (which is about equal to 24 AP)
17:40.48KasoThis costs, 6 Shards, 6 Primal Fire, 6 Primal Water
17:40.52KasoCosting about 100x more on AH
17:41.27Kaso./rant
17:42.15ThraeKaso: I think making quests auto-adjust themselves based on your server's economy isn't within the scope of their scripting power ;)
17:42.47Hobinheim|workyay i think i got it!
17:43.05squidthey should adjust repair costs to make rich people less rich :P
17:43.19KasoProberly not, but i think its safe for blizzard to assume that 6 dust that disenchants of every bloody green in the world, is considerably less valuable than 6 shards off blues and then primals ontop of that
17:43.56ThraeHiuwanguld: Damm it, y i hav pay 300g 4 repairs just cause i hav 30000g?!
17:44.50vlad_Kirkburn: hey
17:45.01vlad_Kirkburn: nvm about the ping, will try again later tonight
17:46.01KirkburnI'm here!
17:46.27KirkburnI read over last night's convo - 1.9.3 is ready to go?
17:46.38ThraeToo late Kirburn, he's gone AFK!
17:46.39Kirkburn(I notice 1.10 still isn't out)
17:46.44vlad_should be; I didn't see any disasterous problems
17:46.48ThraeYou were too slow. Now you'll never get your kids back.
17:46.52Kirkburnlol
17:46.58vlad_I'm sure there will be stuff that needs to be fixed afterwards, but shouldn't be bad
17:47.22vlad_going to need to take down the site for probably an hour or two to do a backup checkpoint before the upgrade
17:47.26vlad_and then to run the upgrade script
17:47.33KirkburnAwesomeness
17:47.39KirkburnWell, I'm around the rest of the day
17:47.42Hobinheim|work!!!!!!
17:47.42ThraeHave the servers gone down yet? I hear wow-europe official forums blue posts were linking to stuff on wowwiki.
17:47.45Hobinheim|workWHAT?!
17:48.00Hobinheim|workThrae, what posts?
17:48.27KirkburnHeh, yeah, they were
17:48.41vlad_Kirkburn: ok, i have a pile of work to do so it won't be until this evening
17:48.42KirkburnI think the EU CMs are allowed more freedom in what they link
17:48.43vlad_Hobinheim|work: nah
17:49.05vlad_Thrae: heh, nice
17:49.07Kirkburnvlad_, that's fine :) I'll keep levelling my draenei
17:49.14vlad_when did they start linking? I didn't see any kind of load spike
17:49.19KirkburnYeah, they linked to the Mount page for example
17:49.24KirkburnOh, only in responses to threads
17:49.29vlad_ah
17:49.34vlad_nice
17:49.41Kirkburnaye
17:49.58Kirkburnzomg, my draenei has finally arrived in IF - only taken until I was 24 :P
17:50.26ThraeKirkburn: No one takes the EU board seriously, unless when a Blue says something ambigious, then all the US guys jump on the thread "OMG Shamans are getting deleted!"
17:50.40KirkburnIt took until 23 for me to get pet abilities other than growl :P
17:50.49KirkburnThrae, hehe
17:50.50ThraeCurse-Gaming - "Shamans are getting deleted. This has been confirmed with the EU Boards."
17:51.49KirkburnOoh, Silverlight ftw: http://metahost.origindigital.com/microsoft/20070430/mix07_20070430_500.asx
17:53.05vlad_wait
17:53.20vlad_don't bot anything until after the upgrade and stuff happens since there will probably need to be ltos of botting, probably
17:53.33Hobinheim|workbut the icons are broken...
17:53.44vlad_oh.
17:53.50vlad_then sure, fix that :)
17:53.53Hobinheim|workyay!
17:54.03Hobinheim|workthey're really small, quick edits
17:54.15Hobinheim|workand i'm done editing the templates in quesiton so the job queue shouldn't need to be spiked up any time soon
17:55.05Kirkburnzomg, I'm not afk!
17:55.36vlad_Kirkburn: so why is this cool?
17:55.42vlad_the video that is, not silverlight overall
17:55.51KirkburnI'm never not |afk :P
17:56.41KirkburnOh right
17:57.03KirkburnSilverlight, very nice interactive stuff for the web
17:57.21vlad_but it's not for the web
17:57.32vlad_they're trying to build a better Flash
17:57.34KirkburnWell, web and offline
17:57.48KirkburnIn a way, it's not quite the same as Flash
17:57.53vlad_the "offline" portion is jsut WPF
17:57.56vlad_right, it's better than flash :)
17:57.59vlad_but it's not the web
17:58.02Hobinheim|workok the bot is crawling right now, not making any changes, still needs approval from me to go ahead
17:58.13KirkburnOh stop knowing stuff better than me :(
17:58.21vlad_sorry, it's a hot topic :)
17:58.28KirkburnI can imagine ^^
17:59.48Kirkburn"Silverlight is a cross-browser, cross-platform plug-in for delivering the next generation of media experiences and rich interactive applications (RIAs) for the Web."
18:00.16KirkburnHaving said that, everyone calls it something different, even MS :/
18:00.30vlad_right
18:00.58Kirkburnlol
18:01.03vlad_what they really mean is "silverlight is a microsoft technology lock-in attempting to bring microsoft the web dominance that's eluded them"
18:01.09KirkburnShall have to look at the beta later
18:01.42vlad_the .NET integration stuff is even worse, because it has to be compiled
18:01.48vlad_being able to view source is a pretty huge thing for the web
18:01.56vlad_you can't use something like Greasemonkey to modify silverlight
18:01.56Grypheneh
18:01.57vlad_you can't do mashups
18:02.06vlad_you can't say "how does that work?"
18:02.33vlad_don't get me wrong, it's cool stuff, but most of it can be done with standard web APIs right now, and a lot of the missing pieces are just incremental improvements
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18:09.08zeegany french/german players here by chance
18:10.13dottedNope no frenchies here :p
18:10.57Hobinheim|work:(
18:11.38Hobinheim|workis sky her
18:11.42Teomyrgerman? here
18:12.31dottedwhy is MVPs asskissing the blues on the wiki?
18:13.04Hobinheim|work?
18:13.10dottedsec
18:13.44dottedhttp://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Ommra&diff=606759&oldid=606720
18:13.51dottedSchwick is an EU MVP
18:14.06dottedwrote on his talk page he shouldnt do IT
18:14.13Hobinheim|workwas this edit really necessary? it has a certain snarkiness that i don't like http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=WoWWiki%3ABot_requests&diff=609977&oldid=607945
18:15.17Kirkburndotted, fair enough, but we have to be very careful about slander
18:15.58GryphenTeabingh is kind of annoying
18:16.51dottedKirkburn exatly which i also mentioned on the talkpage of the article
18:17.08dottedi personally think it should be removed since the source has been lost
18:17.35dottedSchwick just removed the section without discussion
18:19.58KirkburnYeah, just responded on the talk page
18:22.14dottedtoo bad blue tracker doesnt log offtopic forum
18:24.01Hobinheim|workthey should goon up those forums
18:24.19Hobinheim|workall low content/off topic posts (save the off topic forum, of course) should be deleted on the spot and the posters should be granted probations
18:24.37Hobinheim|workbans and probabtions on the forums should be linked to equivalent time outs on your warcraft account
18:24.50Gryphennew to goonism hob?
18:24.52dottedouch
18:24.53Hobinheim|worka ban on the forum means your account should be suspended
18:25.07Hobinheim|workwhy ouch. those forums are so low signal
18:25.08Gryphenyou seem infatuated with it of late
18:25.22Hobinheim|worki haven't read them in a long long time
18:25.34dottedhttp://www.sinisterstrike.com/blue/ <- ahh what a nice bluetracker for the son of a mother didnt incl EU forums
18:25.50dotted*bur
18:25.53dotted**ut
18:25.58dotted***but
18:26.01dottedFAIL
18:27.51dottedits like all but cardplace only tracks US
18:28.12dottedpenis vacuumcleaners
18:28.19Hobinheim|work?
18:28.34dottedcock suckers
18:28.35dottedpenis vacuumcleaners
18:28.38dottedget it :D`
18:28.39dotted?
18:29.06Kirkburn\o/
18:29.08dottednuxnux does EU, but the site is kinda just crap
18:29.19Kirkburnhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Mage#It.27s_.27magi.27.2C_not_.27mages.27.21
18:29.24dottedthottbot is slow as hell
18:30.42dottedwould be an intresting project to do in the summer actually
18:31.13Hobinheim|workthe DIY attitude is totally counter-productive
18:31.19Hobinheim|worktoo bad the internet has too much pride to admit that
18:31.30Hobinheim|workas seen with my short-winded desire to start a forkwiki
18:32.40dottedoO
18:36.10dotted[20:35:00] [klogg-]: 20:12:04 ‹Nirellen› 3 allie soloing anachronos
18:36.10dotted[20:35:07] [klogg-]: how can you solo anything with three people?
18:36.13dottedhar har har
18:40.39dottedhttp://www.wowguru.com/gallery/original/1626.jpg
18:47.11dottedhttp://www.wowinterface.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=787 picture of slouken if anyone wants to add it to his page
18:47.18Kasotaurens have the coolest kids
18:47.49Kasonight elf is a little "I want to believe"
19:00.41Kirkburnhttp://mfrost.typepad.com/cute_overload/2007/04/ahn_head_tilt.html
19:05.40dottedhttp://icanhascheezburger.com/2007/04/30/i-has-a-teddy/
19:05.42dottedi win?
19:05.43dottedKirkburn
19:06.06Kirkburnlol
19:07.37dottedhttp://icanhascheezburger.com/2007/04/29/been-waiting-3-hours/
19:09.54dottedhttp://icanhascheezburger.com/2007/04/27/caturday-2/
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19:11.32foxlitNeed to express my love for whoever designed The Lurker Below
19:11.54dottedhttp://icanhascheezburger.com/2007/03/05/omg-wtf-knock-first/
19:12.00dottedwin
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19:19.09Hobinheim|worknight elf children are freakin fugly
19:19.31foxlitHow is that not a draenei, anyway?
19:19.54Hobinheim|workzomg slouken is a neckbeard
19:20.11Hobinheim|workdraenei don't have children
19:20.13Hobinheim|workthey clone
19:20.25Hobinheim|workit's part of their inter-dimensional meiosis
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19:23.14dottedhi Tekkub
19:23.51Tekkuberf
19:34.18KirkburnIt's a good thing I enjoy exploring, because it's pretty much all my draenei has done for the past 2 hours
19:34.32dottedlol
19:34.41dottedold school exploring is win
19:34.49dottedWTB Semi-old noggenfogger
19:35.54KirkburnPicked up my Chicken Egg though
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19:39.36dottedhi Skosiris˝
19:39.38dotted
19:41.12KirkburnRemind me not to forget to pick up the SW fp :/
19:45.14Skosirishey
19:46.45dottedSkosiris i know what wowhead needs
19:46.46dotted!
19:46.53dotteda proper blue tracker
19:47.42Bibi`ouFcardplace ? :/
19:47.53dottedits crap
19:50.18Bibi`ouFit's not that bad
19:51.03dottedthottbot isnt that bad either, but i find wowhead better ;)
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19:57.15Hobinheim|workruh roh
19:57.36Hobinheim|workvlad_ "1213: Deadlock found when trying to get lock; try restarting transaction (localhost)". on "Warrior quests"
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20:00.39Punkie``Kirkburn, I made like 4 edits! I need welcomed on my talk page :(
20:00.41vlad_Hobinheim|work: wfm I think
20:00.44vlad_was just transient
20:01.10KirkburnWhat does wfm stand for?
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20:02.07Tuqui-tuquiwhen is children's week?
20:02.27KirkburnTBA afaik
20:02.33Kirkburn"Works for me"
20:02.41Tuqui-tuquiso there are no dates set for the event? :<
20:02.46Hobinheim|workgah beaten by Kirkburn
20:02.52Kirkburn2.1 is messing it up
20:03.00Gryphenhttp://www.joystiq.com/2007/04/29/bbc-examines-wows-chinese-gold-farmers/
20:03.09vlad_Kirkburn: "works for me"
20:03.28Hobinheim|workwhen is the patch coming out?
20:03.54KirkburnDunno
20:04.01KirkburnProbably not for a little while
20:06.31Hobinheim|workoh god wowwiki has a problem
20:06.46Hobinheim|workand it's gone again
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20:11.11Bibi`ouFTonight, Bibi doesnt sleep.
20:11.11Bibi`ouFBecause tonight, we dine in PTR !
20:11.18Bibi`ouF(=new patch, for the one who cares)
20:12.30dottedI CARE NOT!
20:12.57Hobinheim|work?
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20:30.15TekkubYATTA!
20:30.24Tekkubadded a 3rd param to {{loot}
20:30.43Tekkubso you can now go {{loot|uncommon|Arcane Tome|Arcane Tomes}}
20:31.09dottedwhich does :/?
20:31.26KirkburnLink title?
20:31.35Tekkubwhat kirk said
20:31.40Tekkub[[Arcane Tome]]s
20:32.06Tekkubalso removed a bunch of redundant [[if]]s
20:32.37Tekkub{{if|{{{2|}}}|then={{{2}}}|else=blah}}  >>> {{{2|blah}}}
20:32.50TekkubI assume that's faster than the template call anyway
20:46.03Hobinheim|workoh god
20:46.16Hobinheim|workphew...
20:46.23Hobinheim|worki thought you added somethin unnecessary, haha
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20:48.49Hobinheim|workyay the job queue is at 12k!!!
20:49.07Hobinheim|workthat thing i said earlier about not needing any more queue spikes until the upgrade... yeah i lied...
20:49.28Hobinheim|workyou know... plurals aren't really linked in game
20:49.39Hobinheim|workyou usually collect [Arcane Tome] x 5
20:49.49Hobinheim|workor it says "collect these Arcane Tomes" in text w/o hyperlinks
20:51.02Tekkubhttp://dsc.discovery.com/news/2007/04/30/soundproof_tec.html?category=technology&guid=20070430090000&dcitc=w19-502-ak-0000
20:51.13Tekkubjust what I need, more vibrators in my house
20:55.34Hobinheim|work:rimshot:
20:58.59Hobinheim|workgod every time i read a zeal post it makes my blood pressure rise...
21:01.28KirkburnHobinheim|work, referring to something specific?
21:02.28Hobinheim|workthe one tek just updated
21:02.30Hobinheim|workloot talk
21:02.40Hobinheim|workthe snarky comments, the argumentatitivenessosity
21:03.32Tekkubyea but "Firewing Signets, along with [Sunfury Sginets] and [Arcane Tomes]" looks nice
21:03.54Tekkubthere's no need for "x5" but a plural is needed
21:04.20Tekkuband the link is needed, cause it's the only ref to those items on the page
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21:06.02Adysmorning sweeties
21:06.07Hobinheim|worki agree it does look sexy
21:06.09Hobinheim|workit's just not canonical
21:06.21Hobinheim|workbtw adys someone was looking for a frenchman earlier...
21:06.34Hobinheim|workhe's still here
21:06.36Hobinheim|work"zeeg"
21:06.42Adyswhats up?
21:06.54zeegI found someone to help me :)
21:06.55Hobinheim|workjob queue is up. > 10k
21:08.50Hobinheim|workh0binbot is also up, but it's taking forever since it keeps crashing. the type of crash i don't really know how to fix
21:09.39TekkubI'm glad you finally got the help you need zeeg
21:10.03Tekkubhow long is the clinic stay?
21:13.12zeeg:,
21:13.13zeeg:<
21:19.31Hobinheim|workwhen zeal changed icon, did he make a bot to change all of the uses of icon or did he just leave it there?
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21:25.50Tuqui-tuquihttp://www.wowwiki.com/Maiden_of_Virtue
21:25.58Tuqui-tuquiI keep getting some type of DB error on that link
21:26.01Tuqui-tuquiam I the only one?
21:34.28Hobinheim|workwfm
21:34.29Hobinheim|work:(
21:34.32amroworking here
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21:41.21Hobinheim|workwait a minute pickpocket supports autoloot?
21:41.25Hobinheim|workand doesn't trigger the GCD?
21:41.32Hobinheim|workif those are both true that's fucking insane
21:41.38Hobinheim|workrogue on a humanoid = auto cash
21:42.00Hobinheim|workor i guess if it did trigger the GCD you could just do cast sequence
21:42.45KirkburnI was just going to go and test that out ... until I remembered I'm a hunter
21:42.51Gryphen1s a pick isnt exactly a cash cow
21:43.06Gryphenbut yes it aloots
21:43.09KirkburnPickpocket Raggy!
21:43.49Hobinheim|worki'm still really REALLY bothered by the whole sneaking around thing
21:43.53Hobinheim|workranged combat is just so... easy...
21:44.08Gryphenadded wowwiki to my google gadget :)
21:45.38Gryphendb searches
21:45.49Gryphenhttp://www.google.com/ig/directory?hl=en&url=http://rsnook.googlepages.com/wowdb.xml
21:48.21Hobinheim|workoh god you exposed your namex0r
21:48.26Hobinheim|work:psyduck:
21:48.39Gryphenono tin foil hat!
21:48.59Hobinheim|workgreat i dunno what to do now
21:49.01Hobinheim|worki clicked add
21:49.15TecnoBratits now on your google homepage
21:49.18KirkburnOh that's a point, we should sort out the search thing for WoWWiki so it can be used in IE7, etc
21:50.05Kirkburn(the relevant page for me: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/searchguide/en-uk/default.mspx?dcsref=http://runonce.msn.com/runonce2.aspx)
21:50.24Hobinheim|workwhat search thing?
21:50.50GryphenOpenSearch
21:50.59Kirkburnzomg!
21:51.09Hobinheim|work....
21:51.16KirkburnI just added WoWWiki using the stuff on the page :)
21:51.36Hobinheim|workwhoa...
21:51.39KirkburnAwesome, however did I not do it before
21:51.45Hobinheim|workgryph's mod made my google thing all crazy
21:51.50Hobinheim|worki don't like that new trend of ZOMG MODULES
21:51.51Gryphen:o
21:51.57Hobinheim|worki like ninja changes
21:51.59Hobinheim|workthis, not ninja
21:52.02Hobinheim|workfor me at least
21:52.10Gryphenit shouldnt do anything crazy....
21:53.37Gryphenwhat browser? i tested in IE7 and FF2
21:53.59Hobinheim|worki never use the new interface
21:54.00Hobinheim|workwith the modules
21:54.04Hobinheim|worki always use google classic
21:54.10Gryphenoh
21:54.33Gryphenso its not me...it's you :)
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21:58.53Sky2042mmmk
21:58.55Sky2042question
21:59.00Sky2042adys, this might involve you
21:59.09Adyssup
21:59.50Sky2042what are we going to do with http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Bcarticle , which u created forever and a while ago? there is someone editing right now switching to that from {{bc}}, and I'm a tad concerned about it :x
22:01.14Adysdelete
22:01.17Adysif unused
22:01.39Sky2042but it's starting to be used :x
22:01.44Sky2042that's the issue
22:01.55Sky2042i'm thinking redirect to {{bc}}, but what do i know?
22:02.21Hobinheim|workbot request
22:02.27Hobinheim|workspeaking of bot request, i got a bone to pick with you
22:02.28Adysaye
22:02.42Sky2042hi hi hobin! :]
22:03.04KirkburnNo more GM tickets for a day :/
22:03.07Sky2042http://hamstring.ytmnsfw.com/ (nsfw)
22:03.11KirkburnI wondered why they didn't reply to my earlier one
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22:04.10Hobinheim|workyour snarky edit to WW:BR
22:04.16Hobinheim|worki know i left a mess
22:04.19Hobinheim|workyou didn't have to rub it in :(
22:05.13KirkburnThat ytmnd is one crazy guy
22:05.30Hobinheim|workwait so what's inside that ytmnd?
22:05.38Hobinheim|worki wanna click on it but i don't wanna get fired
22:05.40Sky2042a guy bitching about missing his hamstrings
22:05.47Sky2042fuck and ass are common words
22:05.49Hobinheim|workis it visually safe?
22:05.51Sky2042yes
22:06.31TecnoBratBlah, my signature is being stupid
22:06.31Sky2042it's by a guy who used to have a warrior, and posts occasionally on warcraftrealms
22:06.47TecnoBratLooks fine on 1/2 of the pages, and then doesnt on others
22:07.05Sky2042war got banned (i think bliz said he hacked or something, which he didn't)
22:08.04Sky2042so are we fine with making {{Bcarticle}} redirect to {{bc}} ?
22:08.24Sky2042i don't wanna make that change without some consensus :o
22:11.57Bibi`ouFoh my god !!!!!!!! the new PTR patch is gonna be insane !
22:11.58Bibi`ouFit's 5 whole mb !!!!
22:12.03Bibi`ouFimagine all the new armor sets you can stick in it
22:12.07Hobinheim|work... is that big?
22:12.27Bibi`ouFYou can't, I'm french.
22:12.40Hobinheim|worktrust me, it looks big even from france
22:12.46Bibi`ouFroflmao
22:13.18Bibi`ouF:/
22:15.19Sky2042i wonder how long it will take him to figure out that bcarticle = bc now
22:15.22Sky2042muahahahaha
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22:26.49ThraeKirkburn: I did a /lastlog Adys and don't get the joke?
22:27.04Sky2042yeh... wtf kirk?
22:27.05Sky2042lol
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22:27.10KirkburnIt's an in-game joke ^^
22:27.13ThraeAhhh
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22:27.32Adysmiranda ffs
22:27.54KirkburnROFL
22:28.20KirkburnAdys, for once, there's no need to blame Miranda ;)
22:28.32Adysit crashed :<
22:28.57KirkburnAh
22:28.57KirkburnWell, let me repeat my last remark to you
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22:29.22KirkburnThat wasn't very imaginative :/
22:29.26*** kick/#wowwiki [Kirkburn!n=Miranda@APoitiers-256-1-34-172.w90-16.abo.wanadoo.fr] by Adys (i know)
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22:29.42Kirkburnlol
22:29.45AdysoO
22:29.55Sky2042lol
22:29.57Sky2042wtf
22:30.03Adysi want kicking stats of this channel
22:31.00Thraehttp://ibot.rikers.org/stats/wowi-lounge.html.gz
22:31.04Thrae4th hit in Google
22:31.11ThraeWhoops, that's wowi-lounge
22:32.15ThraeAll I'm getting for #wowwiki on Freenode is logs, no stats
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22:33.20Adysyeah thrae i know
22:33.24Adysi want the same thing for wowwiki :/
22:33.34Adysinfobot, stats?
22:36.12Adysanyone using the gimp knows how to increase the contrast of a picture?
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23:30.35KasoAdys: who does the icons btw?
23:30.43Adyshow so?
23:30.47AdysZeal/Tusva and myself
23:30.51Adysbut zeal and tusva are inactive
23:31.12Kasodid you upload any using blp2png converter?
23:31.16Kasothe java one
23:31.32Adysnot the java one
23:31.38Adysa .exe from CG
23:31.52Kasohttp://www.wowwiki.com/Image:INV_Weapon_Shortblade_54.png
23:31.55Kasocos of that :<
23:32.24Adysah yeah
23:32.27AdysI need to update these
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