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00:35.45winkillerargh, help me
00:35.50winkillerwho made that template from hell?
00:35.50winkiller{{Server US|PvE|English|Nagrand US}}
00:36.38winkillerenglish seems wrong.
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02:32.48vlad_mm, interseting
02:33.15vlad_claim from wow-pro that there was copyrighted content from one of their guides posted to the wiki
02:40.25sancusis it true?
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02:43.17vlad_i'm looking at the logs now
02:43.19vlad_I can believe part of it
02:43.26vlad_if you look at the deleted portion (look at the edit by Snowflake1)
02:43.33vlad_http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=The_Scarlet_Monastery
02:43.37vlad_like if you look at the end
02:43.43vlad_"Now would be a great time to turn in..." etc.
02:43.46vlad_and earlier "Don't panic, send your tank in.."
02:43.49vlad_reads very much like a guide
02:43.59vlad_but he also went and deleted quest lists and loot lists
02:44.03vlad_all of which were wikified and the like
02:44.11vlad_which were there a /long/ time ago
02:46.25vlad_the bulk of it was added by a single user who had just that 1 edit
02:52.29sancusthe link on their site has a 2006 date
02:52.38sancusthey claim they have proof that it was written earlier than that
02:52.45sancussooooo ask for it
02:54.16sancuserr
02:54.23sancushe deleted some shit that is totally not from their guide
02:54.31sancusnot just lists
02:54.38sancusthe whole paragraph about the location is not from their guide
02:56.42sancusTheir version is also filled with grammar mistakes and half-nonsensical sentences...?
02:56.43sancusthis is weird
02:57.01sancusIf someone did copy this, they spent a lot of time cleaning it up and making it not suck
02:57.09sancusnot a cut and paste
02:59.46sancusthis is messy, and we can't let him delete all that content
03:02.14sancusOK so
03:02.21sancusthe fight guides are clearly identical
03:02.30sancusthe zone premables are not, the quest lists are not, and the item lists are not
03:03.14sancusI bet we don't have a copyright claim process
03:03.16sancusbut we should have one
03:03.24sancuspeople should make the claim first
03:03.29sancusand then get permission to edit stuff out
03:03.31sancusnot the other way around
03:04.41sancuswhat do you think?
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03:10.32vlad_see my post on the village pump about it
03:10.43vlad_we don't have a claim process
03:10.49vlad_he claims that the guide was written and published end of 2004
03:11.01vlad_and it was revised in 2006 or something
03:11.22vlad_but really, he can edit stuff out as he wants
03:11.28vlad_just like any vandal, really
03:11.43sancusright
03:11.49sancusbut if he's a vandal
03:11.52sancuswe should ban him and revert his edit
03:11.52vlad_I sent him mail and said "sorry about that, please let me know or please post here to notify us of any other copyrighted content"
03:11.53sancusthat's the point :P
03:12.08vlad_before I did enough digging to see that he removed a bunch of other crap
03:12.10sancusif his claim is valid then we should not, and should instead resurrect generate content
03:12.19vlad_we should resurrect a bunch of the content
03:12.20sancuser generic
03:12.25vlad_the generic stuff
03:12.29vlad_not the fight guides and intro and whatnot
03:12.34sancusalright
03:12.45sancusI'd still want to see the proof, but honestly, yeah
03:13.00sancusI mean it's an SM guide.. no one cares anymore
03:13.10vlad_eh
03:13.13vlad_new players might be interested
03:13.20sancusI mean
03:13.27sancusno one would care enough to steal it from us and then try to get it removed
03:13.41sancussince that's really the only other possibility
03:13.48vlad_oh, yeah
03:13.50vlad_that would be very odd
03:14.00vlad_but like I said, it was added all in a single edit
03:14.08vlad_by a user who has no other edits
03:14.21vlad_I guess someone might have written it in a burst of inspiration
03:14.21sancusyeah
03:14.27vlad_but I doubt it, especially copmlete with quest lists and item lists
03:14.27sancusnot likely
03:20.29sancusI'll patch it back together tomorrow if someone else doesn't do it for me, don't feel like doing it now
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03:43.33Sky2042lots going on tonight..
03:43.35Sky2042:]
03:59.20Sky2042hmm
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04:10.10Sky2042sigh
04:10.17Sky2042no one's here...
04:14.30TekkubIDEA!
04:14.45Sky2042?
04:14.49Sky2042do tell
04:14.52Tekkubright side nav boxes that are collapsed, except for the current page's section
04:14.53Tekkubhttp://www.wowwiki.com/User:Tekkub/test
04:15.29Sky2042oooooo
04:15.36Tekkubsome of are getting long
04:16.31Sky2042wouldn't it be easier just to wait for parser functions to tweak that?
04:16.37Sky2042those are going in soon, right?
04:16.40Sky2042XD
04:16.41Tekkubparse, not really
04:16.47Sky2042hiiiiiii nettripper
04:16.50Sky2042como estas senor?
04:16.56Tekkubbut if we had javascript we could do it more dynamically
04:17.04Sky2042yeah... we don't
04:17.05Sky2042:p
04:17.12Tekkublike the leftside nav on the blizzy site
04:17.23Tekkubwe *could* have JS :)
04:17.31Sky2042bug rusty about it
04:17.40Sky2042lol! "rusty"
04:20.36Sky2042so... whenever you're done tweaking... :]
04:20.38nettripperHeya Sky2042
04:20.50Sky2042who are you?... hehe
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04:21.32Sky2042hmm... something didn't work there tekk
04:21.45Sky2042:]
04:21.47nettripperSky2042 : A n00b
04:22.13Sky2042cooooooool
04:22.30Sky2042to what? wow? or wowwiki? or?...
04:22.53nettripperBoth
04:22.59Sky2042heh
04:23.05nettripperI am actually updating wow now
04:23.13nettripperAnd figuring this whole process out
04:24.12Sky2042ewwwwwwwwwwww why left?
04:24.16Sky2042grosssssss
04:24.52nettripperleft ?
04:25.17Sky2042not you :)
04:25.24nettripperAh
04:28.49Tekkubhttp://www.wowwiki.com/User:Tekkub/test
04:28.51Tekkublikey?
04:29.17nettripperShould i update to the latest version ? As i see most servers run version 1.9.4 ?
04:29.28Sky2042of what net?
04:29.30Sky2042lol
04:29.54Sky2042I don't like the lines tek
04:30.00Sky2042not sure how to get rid of them though
04:30.08Tekkubtrying to make some visual seperation
04:30.11Sky2042yeah
04:30.17Tekkubotherwise it all blends together
04:30.29Sky2042i think the bolding is enough separation for me, personally
04:30.59Tekkubrefresh
04:31.08nettripperOf WoW Sky2042 ? The wowclient-downloader is in the process of downloading the 2.0.1 update.
04:31.09Sky2042hmm
04:31.20Sky2042that would be update you want net
04:31.25Tekkubcould left-align and indent maybe?
04:31.28Sky2042you have the burning crusade
04:31.32Sky2042yeah, maybe
04:31.46nettripperI do have the burning crusade Sky2042.. just not installed
04:31.48Sky2042could you set up a second template page
04:31.51Sky2042get it installed
04:31.55Sky2042:]
04:32.08nettripperlol.. Thanks for the right direction
04:33.14Sky2042blgh
04:33.20Sky2042internet pooped
04:34.43nettripperThat sucks
04:35.00Tekkubreload sky
04:36.05Sky2042hmm
04:36.26Sky2042sec
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04:37.12Sky2042_disconnect ftl
04:37.16Sky2042_brt tek
04:38.17Sky2042_tek, have a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Evanescence (just the color scheme)
04:38.42Tekkubwhite background :P
04:38.58Sky2042_duh
04:39.01Sky2042_lol
04:39.12Sky2042_how about a white header with grey sub headers?
04:39.45Tekkubmerf
04:39.52Sky2042_hehe
04:39.59TekkubI was concerned with size, not color scheme
04:40.17Sky2042_the spacing still isn't pretty though
04:41.10Tekkubspacing's always been fucked up on the darktable derivitives
04:41.38Sky2042_eh
04:41.42Sky2042_guess that'll work for me
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04:48.49Sky2042_why didn't you just leave it like http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Naxxramas is set up? bad design? oh, and could you default it so that the pages are displayed, rather than not?
04:49.25TekkubI dunno, just thought collapsed bits might be nice
04:49.31Tekkubthe navboxes are getting big
04:50.23Sky2042_it's not real practical to have it on the main instance page in the form it's in >.>
04:50.41Tekkubyea I was thinking fully expanded there
04:50.49Sky2042_which you do how?
04:50.50Sky2042_:]
04:52.01Tekkubhttp://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=Buena
04:52.06Sky2042_yeah
04:52.08Tekkub<PROTECTED>
04:52.28Sky2042_huh?
04:52.45Sky2042_btw, try http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Contributions/Buena
04:52.46Sky2042_>.>
04:52.53Tekkubpeople can't use a fucking standard
04:53.18Tekkub"Oh look, every link in this section uses the same format... I'll use my own!"
04:54.14TekkubI want my armory link in there so everyone can see my leetiness
04:54.19Sky2042_lol
04:55.25Tekkuband my link is the newest, it goes at the top
04:57.28Sky2042_why is nightbane still protected? :[
04:57.39Sky2042_or from moving, anyway
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04:59.34Sky2042_hmmm
05:02.59Sky2042_oooooo
05:03.01Sky2042_i get it
05:03.34Sky2042_http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Orc_Clans is set up so as to show you what the clan colors are
05:03.36Sky2042_>.>
05:07.32Sky2042_ugh
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05:24.00Tekkubso what, when do we {{bc}} and when don't we?
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05:24.16Sky2042_hehe
05:24.21Sky2042_glad you noticed :P
05:24.41Sky2042_we decided not to use it for item pages. that i'm certain of.
05:25.46Sky2042_wonder if i can dig up -that- documentation
05:37.08Tekkubokey, now that WW:EL has been ratified...
05:37.31Tekkubdo we 1) start linking people to the page if they don't use {{elink}}
05:37.37Tekkub2) fix their submissions
05:37.52Tekkub3) delete them if they can't bother to use the template
05:37.58Tekkub?
05:38.01TekkubI like 3 :)
05:38.07Sky2042i don't
05:38.15Sky2042they'll just add it in, or come and bother the deleter
05:38.42Sky2042i would say 1 and 2 are appropriate, or at least number 2
05:38.49Tekkubfine, we link em to that, fix their submissions, and if they keep it up then we delete/ban as needed
05:40.19AdysTekkub: Delete/Fix and summary [[WW:EL]]
05:40.32Sky20422, then 1, then 3
05:40.38AdysDepending on how good you judge the link is
05:40.46Adysif you think it should be kept, fix
05:40.49Adysif not, delete
05:41.44Tekkubit's movies that people sneem to fucj with the most
05:42.04Tekkubotherwise we got a few fansites that are a single point of contact to fix
05:42.11Tekkublike gsDKP and bosskillers
05:43.10Sky2042im not even sure gsdkp is needed anymore
05:43.14Sky2042:/
05:43.46Sky2042except for newer bosses
05:43.48Tekkubprobably not, their pages are just loot tables
05:43.50Tekkubbut meh
05:48.14Sky2042lol
05:50.20Sky2042some advice if any of you decide to ever clean your keyboard: make sure you remember where all the keys go
05:50.23Sky2042>.>
05:55.48Tekkubpfft, that's easy:
05:55.53Tekkub',.pyfgcrl/=\
05:56.04Tekkubaoeuidhtns- [enter]
05:56.09Tekkub;qjkxbmwvz
05:56.23Tekkuboh I forgot the top row
05:56.31Tekkub`1234567890[] [backspace]
05:56.46Sky2042you have a fucked up keyboard...
05:57.26TekkubI'm afraid to clean it, too much shit in there
05:57.57Tekkubbesides, when the keys start sticking I'll buy a new one, I've had this'n like 3 years
05:58.01Sky2042can i quote miss frizzle?
05:58.16Sky2042lol! not so ez w a laptop >.>
06:01.19Sky2042abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz
06:11.11Sky2042hmm
06:13.03Sky2042tekkub
06:13.10Tekkubwhat?+
06:13.26Sky2042you know what the template is for 'this article needs boilerplating'/
06:13.29Sky2042?*
06:13.45Tekkub{{whatever}}
06:13.46Tekkubno
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06:18.20Sky2042tekkub, can you tweak {{elinks}}?
06:18.29Tekkubmeh?
06:18.37Sky2042lol
06:18.41Sky2042no, i guess :P
06:51.18Sky2042who wants to help me make redirects?!
06:51.22Sky2042lol
06:51.23Tekkubnot me
06:51.31TekkubDraenei should speak Draenish
06:53.52Sky2042LOL
06:54.01Sky2042lern2eredar
06:54.01Sky2042nub
06:55.00TekkubDraenmark!
06:56.50Sky2042hmm
06:58.06AdysSky: {{bp}}
06:58.19Adysoff for a shower and brekky bbiab
06:59.43Sky2042ack
06:59.46Sky2042tekkub
06:59.53Tekkubwhat?
07:00.10Sky2042have a look at the post date difference between the first and second on this thread: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25352856&sid=1
07:00.19Sky2042oh wait nvm
07:00.21Sky2042don't!
07:00.28Sky2042i r stupid
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07:13.00Sky2042http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=98894436&sid=1&pageNo=1
07:13.02Sky2042read it nubs
07:13.37JunkHead-WorkI'm A Nub!
07:14.14Sky2042so read it
07:14.31Sky2042i should, h/e, say it is nsfw
07:15.41JunkHead-WorkI can't read it all...
07:15.47JunkHead-WorkIt's just... too much.
07:15.52Sky2042lol
07:16.13JunkHead-WorkIt's funny though from what i read.
07:19.07JunkHead-WorkI read it.:P
07:19.10JunkHead-WorkI couldn't resist.
07:19.47Sky2042:)
07:20.37JunkHead-WorkI'm sending the url to a close friend in game who is also a paladin.
07:20.40JunkHead-WorkAnd female.
07:20.45JunkHead-WorkShe should like it.
07:22.34Sky2042lol
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11:09.33Kiltekso, Thundgots picture comment is amusing
11:17.57foxlithttp://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Server%3AEmerald_Dream_Europe&diff=611544&oldid=592527
11:17.59foxlitWhat do I win? :)
11:18.34KiltekI used to be on that realm :/
11:18.57Kiltekit's shit
11:19.04foxlitHey, it's home!
11:19.36foxlitAlthough doing Thaddius prior to server upgrades was just too hilarious
11:19.57Kiltekhasn't every good guild migrated away?
11:20.03Kiltekprogression is extremely poor, so I heard
11:20.07foxlitLies
11:20.13foxlit:)
11:20.28foxlitGood horde guilds left, alliance just reshuffles itself every 6 months
11:20.47Kiltekaye, I used to be in Origin if you remember them
11:21.53foxlitOh feck, I forgot Gruul
11:21.55KiltekI heard a lot of the good Alliance guilds died too? SO for example
11:22.28Kiltekyou spelt IL wrong too =P
11:23.18foxlitSO split
11:23.29foxlitSo did Ashes and a few other people
11:23.48Kilteknasty
11:23.58foxlitIt's mainly Bridgeburners (Ashes/SO) and Asylum (Ashes/TG) for raid progression now - but I'm a bit biased :)
11:24.41Kiltek:) I can never go back there anyway
11:25.02foxlitWouldn't go back on the horde side either, it's not really interesting
11:25.22Kilteknope
11:25.36KiltekI had a 30 something paladin on the Alliance side :P
11:28.54foxlitPaladins are still whining about their nerf :/
11:30.15dottedfoxlit that page is fucked up
11:30.24dottedoverflow error
11:32.01foxlitAs in can't view, or as in screen too small to fit horizontal tables?
11:32.32dottedthe latter
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11:33.03foxlitI presume it's mostly the T4 table
11:33.18foxlitThere really isn't a sensible way to split that into two :/
11:33.47dottedhttp://img341.imageshack.us/my.php?image=overflowxr4.png
11:34.29foxlitMeh, firefox
11:34.48foxlitIE has teh decency not to try to stack the battlegroup and progression tables, at least :P
11:35.24dottedwell that is always a failiure of the coder
11:36.34dottedi hacked it so it isnt flawed, but it aint pretty
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11:37.19foxlitUgly!
11:38.47foxlitTry now?
11:39.21foxlitAh, it's fine
11:39.32dottedlooks good in IE, FF and Opera
11:40.40foxlitOpera behaves like IE <#
11:40.41foxlit<3
11:41.19dottedthats a good thing :/?
11:41.33foxlitIn this case, yes.
11:41.39foxlitSince FF basically makes things unreadable
11:42.11dottedas i said, FF rendering something wrong is 99,99999999999% of the time the fault of the coder
11:42.47foxlit42.424242424242% of all statistics are made up on the spot
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11:43.22dottedthis one is however correct
11:43.31foxlitOf course!
11:46.47dottedits catually 42,7
11:46.53dotted*42.7%
11:49.16dottedJust remember — if the world didn’t suck, we would all fall off.
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11:55.26dottedMonday is an awful way to spend 1/7th of your life.
11:55.28dottedlol
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13:07.36CrakeHunterhello, im surrently installed wow on vista, now the sound is stuttering. im using a audigy 2 zs. does anyone have an idea what the problem could be?
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13:37.18CrakeHuntersolved the problem: had to disable vsync
13:46.57Kiltek..
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13:55.39KirkburnMorning!
13:57.17Teomyrhi kirk
14:01.04Kiltekafternoon
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15:24.31KasoHas anyone ever done any expermentation on how weapon skill skillups work
15:26.55Kasocos i was getting loads of skilups the i hit 312 and havent seen one for 27min
15:27.19Teomyrno idea
15:28.01KasoIm sick of getting glancing on my priest so i wanna get 350!
15:29.43Teomyrlol
15:36.21KirkburnAdys, meep
15:36.26Adyssup
15:36.35KirkburnTwo things :P
15:36.43KirkburnOne you know ;)
15:37.32AdysI spammed your mailbox, i know
15:37.32KirkburnWoot
15:37.32KirkburnDo you have any "Right click to read" stuff?
15:37.32Adysnot on me nope
15:37.32Adystty in game btw, im on autorun atm
15:37.45Kasonothing on ah kirk?
15:38.09KirkburnAdys, thanks for the scope :D
15:38.14Adysnp^^
15:38.23KirkburnAnd the other four!
15:38.36Adyshaha
15:38.41KirkburnNot near the AH, kaso :(
15:38.45Adysbtw, need bronze
15:39.05KirkburnOoh, iron deposit!
15:39.30KirkburnDamn, too high level
15:39.39KirkburnI need somewhere to /make/ bronze :P
15:40.15KirkburnNight elves aren't known for their blacksmithing stuff :(
15:48.50KirkburnKaso, aha! http://www.blizzplanet.com/content/burning-crusade/heroes/sylvanas/7.gif
15:48.57KirkburnI think that must be ItemTextFont
15:49.07Kasolooks about right
15:53.10KirkburnAdys, so yeah, if I was getting a card right now, I'd go for a 8800 GTS, e.g. http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/125117/rb/27353152785
15:53.21AdysIm exchanging mine
15:53.42KirkburnFor?
15:53.44KirkburnSame?
15:54.08Adysyeah
15:54.09Adysprob
15:54.50KirkburnHow you gonna exchange it? Shop you bought it from?
16:02.42Adysaye
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16:21.12dottedif anyone is up for it
16:21.13dottedhttp://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Guild%3AVia_Crucis_%28Trollbane_Europe%29&diff=611702&oldid=611533
16:21.42dottedthe new stuff isnt 100% npov?
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16:45.41Sandwichman2448Anyone read the Sunwell talk page as of late? I'm confused.
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17:02.22Sandwichman2448Quiet today...
17:03.03Teomyrindeed
17:06.40Sandwichman2448What about my sunwell question? I do not understand what Baggins is saying.
17:08.52AdysAlright
17:08.54Adysgoing offline
17:08.59Adyscard is literally melting
17:09.06Adysand melting my ears too
17:09.15Adysnew one tomorrow!
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17:09.34Sandwichman2448Good for you sir!
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17:12.27Teomyri don't understand it either :P
17:12.35JunkHeadMorning.
17:14.10Sandwichman2448Hello!
17:17.35Sandwichman2448Thanks for trying. I think he is confusing the river dividing the Ghostlands and Eversong woods with the sea dividing the Sunwell plat and Quel'thalas, and assumes the Sunwell is in Silvermoon. But he is an Admin, His opinion is law!
17:33.05BagginswwHuh? sandwich I left it to the discussion LOL
17:33.11BagginswwI'm not putting it in the main article
17:33.16Bagginswwits only speculation at best
17:33.41Sandwichman2448Umm.. What?
17:33.42KirkburnWhat is?
17:34.06Bagginswwthe discussion we were having yesterday
17:34.06Sandwichman2448Which was?
17:34.24BagginswwThe divisions
17:34.52Sandwichman2448Of Quel'Thalas?
17:35.05Bagginswwright
17:35.14BagginswwI was just tossing out ideas
17:35.39Bagginswwideas that will remain in discusison article, as I don't think they are strong enough to fit into main article
17:35.56Bagginswwhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Sunwell_Grove
17:36.45Bagginswwanycase what I was talking about is blizzard may have reduced the "channel" seen in those pictures, to mer rivers in current map. But its unclear
17:36.46Kirkburnhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Sunwell_Plateau would probably benefit from that piccie :P
17:37.05Bagginswwtrue
17:37.59Kirkburnhuh ... anyone else having problems logging onto EU realms?
17:38.32Kirkburnnvm
17:38.38Sandwichman2448I STILL don't see what you are seeing, but respect your opinion sir. Nothing is set in stone ATM.
17:39.03KirkburnHe's saying that it might not turn out to be an island
17:39.18KirkburnAs in, we don't know exactly what it'll look like in the end
17:39.30Sandwichman2448True.
17:39.46Bagginswwya
17:40.13Bagginswwanycase sandwhich what I was trying to say that it might be considered an island to some, is in delta system
17:40.18Bagginswwand bear with me this is geological
17:40.34Bagginswwrivers that surround a raised part of land
17:40.49Bagginswwmake that raised land an "island"
17:40.56Bagginswweven if the rivers are very thin
17:41.39Bagginswweven if the "streams" or "rivers"  don't surround the raised part of land 100%
17:42.10Bagginsww90% surrounding is generally enough that might still be called an "island"
17:42.19Bagginswwor at least a penninsula
17:42.48Bagginswwso yesterday I was just commenting that there are rivers that stretch nearly from sea to sea
17:42.50Bagginswweast to wast
17:42.53Bagginsww*west
17:42.56Bagginswwwest to east
17:43.05Bagginswwthat border the southern side of "Silvermoon"
17:43.21Bagginswwsome would view that as an "island" of land
17:43.29Bagginswwas its surrounded almost completley by water
17:43.36Bagginswwrivers one side
17:43.44Bagginswwand seas on the other three sides
17:44.55Bagginswwuh is that more clear?
17:48.28Bagginswwhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Quelthalassilvermoon.JPG I've ciricled two possible "islands"
17:48.40Sandwichman2448But regardless of watery distance, it is qa thing nortn of Silvermoon?
17:48.58Bagginswwwell sandwhich if you placed old map on top of the new map
17:49.11Bagginswwthe river corresponds to about the same location as the old "channel"
17:49.15Bagginswwstrangely
17:49.44Bagginswwall they did was "darken" in the spot where the channel used to show up on the map.
17:50.16KirkburnHeh, GM gave me a hunter specific response :P "May your arrows always hit your target", gotta love em
17:50.22Bagginswwso if they add an island north of current penninsula, its going to be farther north than it used to be
17:50.30Bagginswwlol
17:51.07Sandwichman2448I think it is a third island not yet in game that will be north of Silvermoon. Thet streched Quel to make 2 zones fit.
17:51.36Sandwichman2448Hm...
17:52.33Bagginswwbear with me got another picture to show you
17:52.51Bagginswwwell from an artistic standpont they just colored in the section
17:52.58Bagginswwbut its always possible they could toss in a new island
17:53.01BagginswwI hope they do imo
17:53.15Bagginswwor at least redraw the "river" on the main map ;)
17:53.39Bagginswwif it ends up being placed in the middle of eversong :p
17:53.57Bagginswwthat way to keep some kind of consistant, "island"
17:56.34Bagginswwhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Easternkingdoms.JPG
17:56.58Bagginswwso ya there is some other changes when they touched up the art
17:57.10Bagginswwlike it now sticks more north, rather than NE
18:06.41Sandwichman2448They streached it to make 2 zones fit in there. In the WoW manuelthere was planned only to be one. When have old maps ever been canon?
18:07.31Bagginswwuh actually concept of two zones in quel'thalas has been around pre-wow
18:07.44Bagginswwlands of conflict anyone?
18:07.57Sandwichman2448Point taken.
18:08.28Bagginswwand yes it discussed grove as being a "third one"
18:08.54Bagginswwwe don't know if there has been any retcons though
18:09.04BagginswwManga was very unclear
18:09.33Bagginswwin some ways it seemed to imply that well was in eversong side of things
18:13.16dottedi see Bagginsww on my screen
18:15.09Sandwichman2448I think you may be right on the little river vs. open sea thing. If it is a new zone I think it will be asessabl via a continueation of the dead scar along a bridge.
18:16.01Bagginswwthat would be interesting
18:16.28Bagginswwas I recall the mission in WC3, you had to cross over a bridge to get to the island.
18:17.53Sandwichman2448The dead scar is obstructed at this point by some debries.
18:18.25Sandwichman2448And it was Arthas' path to the Sunwell
18:19.44BagginswwI've jumped over those debris btw
18:19.51Bagginswwyou can get stuck back there LOL
18:20.07Bagginswwthe scar continues on crosses under a few bridges
18:20.14Bagginswwbetween the two halves the cities
18:20.19Bagginswwand comes to a big gate
18:20.34BagginswwI had to hearth out
18:20.45Bagginswwno way to jump back out
18:21.32KasoWhats happened to all the Icons?
18:21.43Kasooh i see
18:21.52Kasohas tooltip been chnaged recently?
18:22.35Bagginswwsandwich, that looks like a taco... Are tacos a type of sandwich?
18:22.52BagginswwI mean the shell is kinda bread like
18:22.59Bagginswwand it surrounds fillings
18:23.06Kasono yeast = no sandwich imo!
18:23.28Bagginswwflatbread sandwhiches are popular in some places
18:24.13Bagginswwalthough we call those Gyros, or Pitas in some forms, :)
18:24.31Kasoblasphemous!
18:24.34Bagginswwmmm pitas
18:24.43KasoSandwiches need yeasted bread!
18:24.53Sandwichman2448?
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18:25.11BagginswwQuiznos ahs the flatbread sandwiches :p
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18:25.26Sky2042anyone heeeeeeeare
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18:25.38BagginswwI suppose Aram falls under flatbread category :p
18:25.40Sandwichman2448I am
18:26.06Bagginswwhttp://www.epicurious.com/cooking/how_to/food_dictionary/entry?id=1160 p
18:26.14Bagginswwaram sandwhich :p
18:26.25Sandwichman2448The image is a taco.
18:26.34Bagginswwindeed, :)
18:26.49Bagginswwso your title for the pciture had nothing to do with your opinion of it?
18:27.00Sandwichman2448read my User page
18:27.05Bagginswwk
18:27.43Bagginswwuh who's namesake? Tacoman, ;)
18:27.48Sandwichman2448Mine.
18:28.05Bagginswwyour name is taco?
18:28.09Sandwichman2448No...
18:28.42Bagginswwhttp://www.targetwoman.com/image/sandwich.jpg That's a sandwhich :)
18:28.54Bagginswwone of those crazy multi-decked ones
18:29.05Sandwichman2448Yes, and a thick one at that.
18:29.49Bagginswwwhat do they call them Dagwood?
18:30.32Sandwichman2448Those are named after the comic charicter who makes trhem out of whatever is in the fridge.
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18:30.57Bagginswwya but they are usually like really tall in the comics right?
18:31.07Sandwichman2448Not sure.
18:31.26Bagginswwhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dagwood_sandwich ahh yes
18:31.38Sandwichman2448I G2G my neahbor is having a pool party next door!
18:31.44Sandwichman2448Bye
18:31.44Sky2042kirkburn
18:31.46Sky2042nice
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18:32.35Sky2042ok, will you come if i call you kickbum?
18:34.45Sky2042btw, SC2 is coming out
18:34.50Sky2042http://www.blizzplanet.com/?action=news&id=1321
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18:36.16Bagginswwuntil its canceled, :)
18:36.25Sky2042yarly
18:36.26Sky2042ol
18:36.28Sky2042lol*
18:36.32Bagginsww"didn't fit our expectations"
18:46.28dottedi'm gonna kill myself if it isnt SC2
18:46.41Sky2042heh
18:51.03BagginswwLOL
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18:59.13dottedshut up dead guy
19:00.19KirkburnWoo, finally got some new skills for my pet
19:00.34KirkburnI only had growl up to level 23 :P
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19:09.13KirkburnAah! Tekkub!
19:10.46Tekkubmeh
19:30.18Tekkubhttp://www.furaffinity.net/view/517960/
19:30.26Tekkub"Drink the damn wine" that's great
19:37.20dottedFatal system error!
19:37.20dottedYou are not allowed to view this image. This could be that your birth date is not set, or you have mature submissions turned off.
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19:37.28dottedFAIL!
19:41.53Tekkubthe hell? that's one of the G-rated pics :P
19:41.59Tekkubfine, I'll supplement
19:42.00Tekkubhttp://www.neowin.net/index.php?act=view&id=39881
19:42.11Tekkub*snicker*  I have a new respect for Sony
19:59.49Sky2042_sigh
20:00.48Sky2042_can we get a block for http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Nazjatar ? vandalized blood of mannoroth
20:01.08Sky2042_kirkburn or tekkub
20:01.10Sky2042_^^^^
20:04.31Sky2042_or bagginsww , hell
20:04.56KirkburnWrite a note on his talk page
20:05.09KirkburnUse {{signedwelcome|}} or something
20:05.54Sky2042_i'm fairly certain that's vandalism -_-
20:06.07Kirkburnhmm, fair enough
20:06.21Gryphenya petty edits
20:06.25Gryphenall vandalism
20:06.27Sky2042_"Homoroth" isn't exactly a nice name, eh?
20:07.07Kirkburndone
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20:36.44foxlit~seen Cide
20:37.04infobotcide <n=Cide@81-237-213-149-no60.tbcn.telia.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 2d 19h 39m 15s ago, saying: 'Shirik: 7,  6'.
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21:37.22Sandwichman2448Hello
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22:33.35KirkburnSuch a quiet day, gotta love it
22:54.21xb95quiet is good
22:55.27vlad_super nice over here outside today
22:55.43vlad_going out to a bbq in a bit
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23:17.11Sandwichman2448Hi.
23:20.46Kirkburnvlad_, enjoy the BBQ
23:20.55KirkburnSandwichman2448, hullo
23:21.19KirkburnThink I may go to bed in a sec, v bored
23:21.23Sandwichman2448Hullo to you to, Sir.
23:21.51KirkburnI need to flip a coin as to whether to do a new UI site package tonight :P
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23:22.26KirkburnTails! Aww, not 2nite :P
23:27.34Kirkburnhttp://exhalted.ytmnd.com/
23:28.00Sandwichman2448Dork has connection problems.
23:28.50KirkburnYeah, I know :P
23:28.58KirkburnAAallllll the time
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23:36.30KirkburnThis is just silly - http://dennalengine.ytmnd.com/
23:37.58Sandwichman2448What... the... !@#$.
23:40.26Sandwichman2448As long as were off topic, I base my life on the teachings of http://www.homestarrunner.com/
23:40.30Sandwichman2448Not really.
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23:51.44Sandwichman2448Still quiet
23:58.16Sandwichman2448Any issuetastic issues to disscus?
23:58.42KirkburnNothing I'm willing to stay up for ;)
23:58.54KirkburnAnd yes, Homestarrunner ftw
23:59.46KasoHomestarrunner, isnt that a little two years ago

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