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00:35.45 | winkiller | argh, help me |
00:35.50 | winkiller | who made that template from hell? |
00:35.50 | winkiller | {{Server US|PvE|English|Nagrand US}} |
00:36.38 | winkiller | english seems wrong. |
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02:32.48 | vlad_ | mm, interseting |
02:33.15 | vlad_ | claim from wow-pro that there was copyrighted content from one of their guides posted to the wiki |
02:40.25 | sancus | is it true? |
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02:43.17 | vlad_ | i'm looking at the logs now |
02:43.19 | vlad_ | I can believe part of it |
02:43.26 | vlad_ | if you look at the deleted portion (look at the edit by Snowflake1) |
02:43.33 | vlad_ | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=The_Scarlet_Monastery |
02:43.37 | vlad_ | like if you look at the end |
02:43.43 | vlad_ | "Now would be a great time to turn in..." etc. |
02:43.46 | vlad_ | and earlier "Don't panic, send your tank in.." |
02:43.49 | vlad_ | reads very much like a guide |
02:43.59 | vlad_ | but he also went and deleted quest lists and loot lists |
02:44.03 | vlad_ | all of which were wikified and the like |
02:44.11 | vlad_ | which were there a /long/ time ago |
02:46.25 | vlad_ | the bulk of it was added by a single user who had just that 1 edit |
02:52.29 | sancus | the link on their site has a 2006 date |
02:52.38 | sancus | they claim they have proof that it was written earlier than that |
02:52.45 | sancus | sooooo ask for it |
02:54.16 | sancus | err |
02:54.23 | sancus | he deleted some shit that is totally not from their guide |
02:54.31 | sancus | not just lists |
02:54.38 | sancus | the whole paragraph about the location is not from their guide |
02:56.42 | sancus | Their version is also filled with grammar mistakes and half-nonsensical sentences...? |
02:56.43 | sancus | this is weird |
02:57.01 | sancus | If someone did copy this, they spent a lot of time cleaning it up and making it not suck |
02:57.09 | sancus | not a cut and paste |
02:59.46 | sancus | this is messy, and we can't let him delete all that content |
03:02.14 | sancus | OK so |
03:02.21 | sancus | the fight guides are clearly identical |
03:02.30 | sancus | the zone premables are not, the quest lists are not, and the item lists are not |
03:03.14 | sancus | I bet we don't have a copyright claim process |
03:03.16 | sancus | but we should have one |
03:03.24 | sancus | people should make the claim first |
03:03.29 | sancus | and then get permission to edit stuff out |
03:03.31 | sancus | not the other way around |
03:04.41 | sancus | what do you think? |
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03:10.32 | vlad_ | see my post on the village pump about it |
03:10.43 | vlad_ | we don't have a claim process |
03:10.49 | vlad_ | he claims that the guide was written and published end of 2004 |
03:11.01 | vlad_ | and it was revised in 2006 or something |
03:11.22 | vlad_ | but really, he can edit stuff out as he wants |
03:11.28 | vlad_ | just like any vandal, really |
03:11.43 | sancus | right |
03:11.49 | sancus | but if he's a vandal |
03:11.52 | sancus | we should ban him and revert his edit |
03:11.52 | vlad_ | I sent him mail and said "sorry about that, please let me know or please post here to notify us of any other copyrighted content" |
03:11.53 | sancus | that's the point :P |
03:12.08 | vlad_ | before I did enough digging to see that he removed a bunch of other crap |
03:12.10 | sancus | if his claim is valid then we should not, and should instead resurrect generate content |
03:12.19 | vlad_ | we should resurrect a bunch of the content |
03:12.20 | sancus | er generic |
03:12.25 | vlad_ | the generic stuff |
03:12.29 | vlad_ | not the fight guides and intro and whatnot |
03:12.34 | sancus | alright |
03:12.45 | sancus | I'd still want to see the proof, but honestly, yeah |
03:13.00 | sancus | I mean it's an SM guide.. no one cares anymore |
03:13.10 | vlad_ | eh |
03:13.13 | vlad_ | new players might be interested |
03:13.20 | sancus | I mean |
03:13.27 | sancus | no one would care enough to steal it from us and then try to get it removed |
03:13.41 | sancus | since that's really the only other possibility |
03:13.48 | vlad_ | oh, yeah |
03:13.50 | vlad_ | that would be very odd |
03:14.00 | vlad_ | but like I said, it was added all in a single edit |
03:14.08 | vlad_ | by a user who has no other edits |
03:14.21 | vlad_ | I guess someone might have written it in a burst of inspiration |
03:14.21 | sancus | yeah |
03:14.27 | vlad_ | but I doubt it, especially copmlete with quest lists and item lists |
03:14.27 | sancus | not likely |
03:20.29 | sancus | I'll patch it back together tomorrow if someone else doesn't do it for me, don't feel like doing it now |
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03:43.33 | Sky2042 | lots going on tonight.. |
03:43.35 | Sky2042 | :] |
03:59.20 | Sky2042 | hmm |
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04:10.10 | Sky2042 | sigh |
04:10.17 | Sky2042 | no one's here... |
04:14.30 | Tekkub | IDEA! |
04:14.45 | Sky2042 | ? |
04:14.49 | Sky2042 | do tell |
04:14.52 | Tekkub | right side nav boxes that are collapsed, except for the current page's section |
04:14.53 | Tekkub | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Tekkub/test |
04:15.29 | Sky2042 | oooooo |
04:15.36 | Tekkub | some of are getting long |
04:16.31 | Sky2042 | wouldn't it be easier just to wait for parser functions to tweak that? |
04:16.37 | Sky2042 | those are going in soon, right? |
04:16.40 | Sky2042 | XD |
04:16.41 | Tekkub | parse, not really |
04:16.47 | Sky2042 | hiiiiiii nettripper |
04:16.50 | Sky2042 | como estas senor? |
04:16.56 | Tekkub | but if we had javascript we could do it more dynamically |
04:17.04 | Sky2042 | yeah... we don't |
04:17.05 | Sky2042 | :p |
04:17.12 | Tekkub | like the leftside nav on the blizzy site |
04:17.23 | Tekkub | we *could* have JS :) |
04:17.31 | Sky2042 | bug rusty about it |
04:17.40 | Sky2042 | lol! "rusty" |
04:20.36 | Sky2042 | so... whenever you're done tweaking... :] |
04:20.38 | nettripper | Heya Sky2042 |
04:20.50 | Sky2042 | who are you?... hehe |
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04:21.32 | Sky2042 | hmm... something didn't work there tekk |
04:21.45 | Sky2042 | :] |
04:21.47 | nettripper | Sky2042 : A n00b |
04:22.13 | Sky2042 | cooooooool |
04:22.30 | Sky2042 | to what? wow? or wowwiki? or?... |
04:22.53 | nettripper | Both |
04:22.59 | Sky2042 | heh |
04:23.05 | nettripper | I am actually updating wow now |
04:23.13 | nettripper | And figuring this whole process out |
04:24.12 | Sky2042 | ewwwwwwwwwwww why left? |
04:24.16 | Sky2042 | grosssssss |
04:24.52 | nettripper | left ? |
04:25.17 | Sky2042 | not you :) |
04:25.24 | nettripper | Ah |
04:28.49 | Tekkub | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Tekkub/test |
04:28.51 | Tekkub | likey? |
04:29.17 | nettripper | Should i update to the latest version ? As i see most servers run version 1.9.4 ? |
04:29.28 | Sky2042 | of what net? |
04:29.30 | Sky2042 | lol |
04:29.54 | Sky2042 | I don't like the lines tek |
04:30.00 | Sky2042 | not sure how to get rid of them though |
04:30.08 | Tekkub | trying to make some visual seperation |
04:30.11 | Sky2042 | yeah |
04:30.17 | Tekkub | otherwise it all blends together |
04:30.29 | Sky2042 | i think the bolding is enough separation for me, personally |
04:30.59 | Tekkub | refresh |
04:31.08 | nettripper | Of WoW Sky2042 ? The wowclient-downloader is in the process of downloading the 2.0.1 update. |
04:31.09 | Sky2042 | hmm |
04:31.20 | Sky2042 | that would be update you want net |
04:31.25 | Tekkub | could left-align and indent maybe? |
04:31.28 | Sky2042 | you have the burning crusade |
04:31.32 | Sky2042 | yeah, maybe |
04:31.46 | nettripper | I do have the burning crusade Sky2042.. just not installed |
04:31.48 | Sky2042 | could you set up a second template page |
04:31.51 | Sky2042 | get it installed |
04:31.55 | Sky2042 | :] |
04:32.08 | nettripper | lol.. Thanks for the right direction |
04:33.14 | Sky2042 | blgh |
04:33.20 | Sky2042 | internet pooped |
04:34.43 | nettripper | That sucks |
04:35.00 | Tekkub | reload sky |
04:36.05 | Sky2042 | hmm |
04:36.26 | Sky2042 | sec |
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04:37.12 | Sky2042_ | disconnect ftl |
04:37.16 | Sky2042_ | brt tek |
04:38.17 | Sky2042_ | tek, have a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Evanescence (just the color scheme) |
04:38.42 | Tekkub | white background :P |
04:38.58 | Sky2042_ | duh |
04:39.01 | Sky2042_ | lol |
04:39.12 | Sky2042_ | how about a white header with grey sub headers? |
04:39.45 | Tekkub | merf |
04:39.52 | Sky2042_ | hehe |
04:39.59 | Tekkub | I was concerned with size, not color scheme |
04:40.17 | Sky2042_ | the spacing still isn't pretty though |
04:41.10 | Tekkub | spacing's always been fucked up on the darktable derivitives |
04:41.38 | Sky2042_ | eh |
04:41.42 | Sky2042_ | guess that'll work for me |
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04:48.49 | Sky2042_ | why didn't you just leave it like http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Naxxramas is set up? bad design? oh, and could you default it so that the pages are displayed, rather than not? |
04:49.25 | Tekkub | I dunno, just thought collapsed bits might be nice |
04:49.31 | Tekkub | the navboxes are getting big |
04:50.23 | Sky2042_ | it's not real practical to have it on the main instance page in the form it's in >.> |
04:50.41 | Tekkub | yea I was thinking fully expanded there |
04:50.49 | Sky2042_ | which you do how? |
04:50.50 | Sky2042_ | :] |
04:52.01 | Tekkub | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=Buena |
04:52.06 | Sky2042_ | yeah |
04:52.08 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
04:52.28 | Sky2042_ | huh? |
04:52.45 | Sky2042_ | btw, try http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Contributions/Buena |
04:52.46 | Sky2042_ | >.> |
04:52.53 | Tekkub | people can't use a fucking standard |
04:53.18 | Tekkub | "Oh look, every link in this section uses the same format... I'll use my own!" |
04:54.14 | Tekkub | I want my armory link in there so everyone can see my leetiness |
04:54.19 | Sky2042_ | lol |
04:55.25 | Tekkub | and my link is the newest, it goes at the top |
04:57.28 | Sky2042_ | why is nightbane still protected? :[ |
04:57.39 | Sky2042_ | or from moving, anyway |
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04:59.34 | Sky2042_ | hmmm |
05:02.59 | Sky2042_ | oooooo |
05:03.01 | Sky2042_ | i get it |
05:03.34 | Sky2042_ | http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Orc_Clans is set up so as to show you what the clan colors are |
05:03.36 | Sky2042_ | >.> |
05:07.32 | Sky2042_ | ugh |
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05:24.00 | Tekkub | so what, when do we {{bc}} and when don't we? |
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05:24.16 | Sky2042_ | hehe |
05:24.21 | Sky2042_ | glad you noticed :P |
05:24.41 | Sky2042_ | we decided not to use it for item pages. that i'm certain of. |
05:25.46 | Sky2042_ | wonder if i can dig up -that- documentation |
05:37.08 | Tekkub | okey, now that WW:EL has been ratified... |
05:37.31 | Tekkub | do we 1) start linking people to the page if they don't use {{elink}} |
05:37.37 | Tekkub | 2) fix their submissions |
05:37.52 | Tekkub | 3) delete them if they can't bother to use the template |
05:37.58 | Tekkub | ? |
05:38.01 | Tekkub | I like 3 :) |
05:38.07 | Sky2042 | i don't |
05:38.15 | Sky2042 | they'll just add it in, or come and bother the deleter |
05:38.42 | Sky2042 | i would say 1 and 2 are appropriate, or at least number 2 |
05:38.49 | Tekkub | fine, we link em to that, fix their submissions, and if they keep it up then we delete/ban as needed |
05:40.19 | Adys | Tekkub: Delete/Fix and summary [[WW:EL]] |
05:40.32 | Sky2042 | 2, then 1, then 3 |
05:40.38 | Adys | Depending on how good you judge the link is |
05:40.46 | Adys | if you think it should be kept, fix |
05:40.49 | Adys | if not, delete |
05:41.44 | Tekkub | it's movies that people sneem to fucj with the most |
05:42.04 | Tekkub | otherwise we got a few fansites that are a single point of contact to fix |
05:42.11 | Tekkub | like gsDKP and bosskillers |
05:43.10 | Sky2042 | im not even sure gsdkp is needed anymore |
05:43.14 | Sky2042 | :/ |
05:43.46 | Sky2042 | except for newer bosses |
05:43.48 | Tekkub | probably not, their pages are just loot tables |
05:43.50 | Tekkub | but meh |
05:48.14 | Sky2042 | lol |
05:50.20 | Sky2042 | some advice if any of you decide to ever clean your keyboard: make sure you remember where all the keys go |
05:50.23 | Sky2042 | >.> |
05:55.48 | Tekkub | pfft, that's easy: |
05:55.53 | Tekkub | ',.pyfgcrl/=\ |
05:56.04 | Tekkub | aoeuidhtns- [enter] |
05:56.09 | Tekkub | ;qjkxbmwvz |
05:56.23 | Tekkub | oh I forgot the top row |
05:56.31 | Tekkub | `1234567890[] [backspace] |
05:56.46 | Sky2042 | you have a fucked up keyboard... |
05:57.26 | Tekkub | I'm afraid to clean it, too much shit in there |
05:57.57 | Tekkub | besides, when the keys start sticking I'll buy a new one, I've had this'n like 3 years |
05:58.01 | Sky2042 | can i quote miss frizzle? |
05:58.16 | Sky2042 | lol! not so ez w a laptop >.> |
06:01.19 | Sky2042 | abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz |
06:11.11 | Sky2042 | hmm |
06:13.03 | Sky2042 | tekkub |
06:13.10 | Tekkub | what?+ |
06:13.26 | Sky2042 | you know what the template is for 'this article needs boilerplating'/ |
06:13.29 | Sky2042 | ?* |
06:13.45 | Tekkub | {{whatever}} |
06:13.46 | Tekkub | no |
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06:18.20 | Sky2042 | tekkub, can you tweak {{elinks}}? |
06:18.29 | Tekkub | meh? |
06:18.37 | Sky2042 | lol |
06:18.41 | Sky2042 | no, i guess :P |
06:51.18 | Sky2042 | who wants to help me make redirects?! |
06:51.22 | Sky2042 | lol |
06:51.23 | Tekkub | not me |
06:51.31 | Tekkub | Draenei should speak Draenish |
06:53.52 | Sky2042 | LOL |
06:54.01 | Sky2042 | lern2eredar |
06:54.01 | Sky2042 | nub |
06:55.00 | Tekkub | Draenmark! |
06:56.50 | Sky2042 | hmm |
06:58.06 | Adys | Sky: {{bp}} |
06:58.19 | Adys | off for a shower and brekky bbiab |
06:59.43 | Sky2042 | ack |
06:59.46 | Sky2042 | tekkub |
06:59.53 | Tekkub | what? |
07:00.10 | Sky2042 | have a look at the post date difference between the first and second on this thread: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25352856&sid=1 |
07:00.19 | Sky2042 | oh wait nvm |
07:00.21 | Sky2042 | don't! |
07:00.28 | Sky2042 | i r stupid |
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07:13.00 | Sky2042 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=98894436&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
07:13.02 | Sky2042 | read it nubs |
07:13.37 | JunkHead-Work | I'm A Nub! |
07:14.14 | Sky2042 | so read it |
07:14.31 | Sky2042 | i should, h/e, say it is nsfw |
07:15.41 | JunkHead-Work | I can't read it all... |
07:15.47 | JunkHead-Work | It's just... too much. |
07:15.52 | Sky2042 | lol |
07:16.13 | JunkHead-Work | It's funny though from what i read. |
07:19.07 | JunkHead-Work | I read it.:P |
07:19.10 | JunkHead-Work | I couldn't resist. |
07:19.47 | Sky2042 | :) |
07:20.37 | JunkHead-Work | I'm sending the url to a close friend in game who is also a paladin. |
07:20.40 | JunkHead-Work | And female. |
07:20.45 | JunkHead-Work | She should like it. |
07:22.34 | Sky2042 | lol |
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11:09.33 | Kiltek | so, Thundgots picture comment is amusing |
11:17.57 | foxlit | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Server%3AEmerald_Dream_Europe&diff=611544&oldid=592527 |
11:17.59 | foxlit | What do I win? :) |
11:18.34 | Kiltek | I used to be on that realm :/ |
11:18.57 | Kiltek | it's shit |
11:19.04 | foxlit | Hey, it's home! |
11:19.36 | foxlit | Although doing Thaddius prior to server upgrades was just too hilarious |
11:19.57 | Kiltek | hasn't every good guild migrated away? |
11:20.03 | Kiltek | progression is extremely poor, so I heard |
11:20.07 | foxlit | Lies |
11:20.13 | foxlit | :) |
11:20.28 | foxlit | Good horde guilds left, alliance just reshuffles itself every 6 months |
11:20.47 | Kiltek | aye, I used to be in Origin if you remember them |
11:21.53 | foxlit | Oh feck, I forgot Gruul |
11:21.55 | Kiltek | I heard a lot of the good Alliance guilds died too? SO for example |
11:22.28 | Kiltek | you spelt IL wrong too =P |
11:23.18 | foxlit | SO split |
11:23.29 | foxlit | So did Ashes and a few other people |
11:23.48 | Kiltek | nasty |
11:23.58 | foxlit | It's mainly Bridgeburners (Ashes/SO) and Asylum (Ashes/TG) for raid progression now - but I'm a bit biased :) |
11:24.41 | Kiltek | :) I can never go back there anyway |
11:25.02 | foxlit | Wouldn't go back on the horde side either, it's not really interesting |
11:25.22 | Kiltek | nope |
11:25.36 | Kiltek | I had a 30 something paladin on the Alliance side :P |
11:28.54 | foxlit | Paladins are still whining about their nerf :/ |
11:30.15 | dotted | foxlit that page is fucked up |
11:30.24 | dotted | overflow error |
11:32.01 | foxlit | As in can't view, or as in screen too small to fit horizontal tables? |
11:32.32 | dotted | the latter |
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11:33.03 | foxlit | I presume it's mostly the T4 table |
11:33.18 | foxlit | There really isn't a sensible way to split that into two :/ |
11:33.47 | dotted | http://img341.imageshack.us/my.php?image=overflowxr4.png |
11:34.29 | foxlit | Meh, firefox |
11:34.48 | foxlit | IE has teh decency not to try to stack the battlegroup and progression tables, at least :P |
11:35.24 | dotted | well that is always a failiure of the coder |
11:36.34 | dotted | i hacked it so it isnt flawed, but it aint pretty |
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11:37.19 | foxlit | Ugly! |
11:38.47 | foxlit | Try now? |
11:39.21 | foxlit | Ah, it's fine |
11:39.32 | dotted | looks good in IE, FF and Opera |
11:40.40 | foxlit | Opera behaves like IE <# |
11:40.41 | foxlit | <3 |
11:41.19 | dotted | thats a good thing :/? |
11:41.33 | foxlit | In this case, yes. |
11:41.39 | foxlit | Since FF basically makes things unreadable |
11:42.11 | dotted | as i said, FF rendering something wrong is 99,99999999999% of the time the fault of the coder |
11:42.47 | foxlit | 42.424242424242% of all statistics are made up on the spot |
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11:43.22 | dotted | this one is however correct |
11:43.31 | foxlit | Of course! |
11:46.47 | dotted | its catually 42,7 |
11:46.53 | dotted | *42.7% |
11:49.16 | dotted | Just remember — if the world didn’t suck, we would all fall off. |
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11:55.26 | dotted | Monday is an awful way to spend 1/7th of your life. |
11:55.28 | dotted | lol |
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13:07.36 | CrakeHunter | hello, im surrently installed wow on vista, now the sound is stuttering. im using a audigy 2 zs. does anyone have an idea what the problem could be? |
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13:37.18 | CrakeHunter | solved the problem: had to disable vsync |
13:46.57 | Kiltek | .. |
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13:55.39 | Kirkburn | Morning! |
13:57.17 | Teomyr | hi kirk |
14:01.04 | Kiltek | afternoon |
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15:24.31 | Kaso | Has anyone ever done any expermentation on how weapon skill skillups work |
15:26.55 | Kaso | cos i was getting loads of skilups the i hit 312 and havent seen one for 27min |
15:27.19 | Teomyr | no idea |
15:28.01 | Kaso | Im sick of getting glancing on my priest so i wanna get 350! |
15:29.43 | Teomyr | lol |
15:36.21 | Kirkburn | Adys, meep |
15:36.26 | Adys | sup |
15:36.35 | Kirkburn | Two things :P |
15:36.43 | Kirkburn | One you know ;) |
15:37.32 | Adys | I spammed your mailbox, i know |
15:37.32 | Kirkburn | Woot |
15:37.32 | Kirkburn | Do you have any "Right click to read" stuff? |
15:37.32 | Adys | not on me nope |
15:37.32 | Adys | tty in game btw, im on autorun atm |
15:37.45 | Kaso | nothing on ah kirk? |
15:38.09 | Kirkburn | Adys, thanks for the scope :D |
15:38.14 | Adys | np^^ |
15:38.23 | Kirkburn | And the other four! |
15:38.36 | Adys | haha |
15:38.41 | Kirkburn | Not near the AH, kaso :( |
15:38.45 | Adys | btw, need bronze |
15:39.05 | Kirkburn | Ooh, iron deposit! |
15:39.30 | Kirkburn | Damn, too high level |
15:39.39 | Kirkburn | I need somewhere to /make/ bronze :P |
15:40.15 | Kirkburn | Night elves aren't known for their blacksmithing stuff :( |
15:48.50 | Kirkburn | Kaso, aha! http://www.blizzplanet.com/content/burning-crusade/heroes/sylvanas/7.gif |
15:48.57 | Kirkburn | I think that must be ItemTextFont |
15:49.07 | Kaso | looks about right |
15:53.10 | Kirkburn | Adys, so yeah, if I was getting a card right now, I'd go for a 8800 GTS, e.g. http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/125117/rb/27353152785 |
15:53.21 | Adys | Im exchanging mine |
15:53.42 | Kirkburn | For? |
15:53.44 | Kirkburn | Same? |
15:54.08 | Adys | yeah |
15:54.09 | Adys | prob |
15:54.50 | Kirkburn | How you gonna exchange it? Shop you bought it from? |
16:02.42 | Adys | aye |
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16:21.12 | dotted | if anyone is up for it |
16:21.13 | dotted | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Guild%3AVia_Crucis_%28Trollbane_Europe%29&diff=611702&oldid=611533 |
16:21.42 | dotted | the new stuff isnt 100% npov? |
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16:45.41 | Sandwichman2448 | Anyone read the Sunwell talk page as of late? I'm confused. |
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17:02.22 | Sandwichman2448 | Quiet today... |
17:03.03 | Teomyr | indeed |
17:06.40 | Sandwichman2448 | What about my sunwell question? I do not understand what Baggins is saying. |
17:08.52 | Adys | Alright |
17:08.54 | Adys | going offline |
17:08.59 | Adys | card is literally melting |
17:09.06 | Adys | and melting my ears too |
17:09.15 | Adys | new one tomorrow! |
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17:09.34 | Sandwichman2448 | Good for you sir! |
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17:12.27 | Teomyr | i don't understand it either :P |
17:12.35 | JunkHead | Morning. |
17:14.10 | Sandwichman2448 | Hello! |
17:17.35 | Sandwichman2448 | Thanks for trying. I think he is confusing the river dividing the Ghostlands and Eversong woods with the sea dividing the Sunwell plat and Quel'thalas, and assumes the Sunwell is in Silvermoon. But he is an Admin, His opinion is law! |
17:33.05 | Bagginsww | Huh? sandwich I left it to the discussion LOL |
17:33.11 | Bagginsww | I'm not putting it in the main article |
17:33.16 | Bagginsww | its only speculation at best |
17:33.41 | Sandwichman2448 | Umm.. What? |
17:33.42 | Kirkburn | What is? |
17:34.06 | Bagginsww | the discussion we were having yesterday |
17:34.06 | Sandwichman2448 | Which was? |
17:34.24 | Bagginsww | The divisions |
17:34.52 | Sandwichman2448 | Of Quel'Thalas? |
17:35.05 | Bagginsww | right |
17:35.14 | Bagginsww | I was just tossing out ideas |
17:35.39 | Bagginsww | ideas that will remain in discusison article, as I don't think they are strong enough to fit into main article |
17:35.56 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Sunwell_Grove |
17:36.45 | Bagginsww | anycase what I was talking about is blizzard may have reduced the "channel" seen in those pictures, to mer rivers in current map. But its unclear |
17:36.46 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowwiki.com/Sunwell_Plateau would probably benefit from that piccie :P |
17:37.05 | Bagginsww | true |
17:37.59 | Kirkburn | huh ... anyone else having problems logging onto EU realms? |
17:38.32 | Kirkburn | nvm |
17:38.38 | Sandwichman2448 | I STILL don't see what you are seeing, but respect your opinion sir. Nothing is set in stone ATM. |
17:39.03 | Kirkburn | He's saying that it might not turn out to be an island |
17:39.18 | Kirkburn | As in, we don't know exactly what it'll look like in the end |
17:39.30 | Sandwichman2448 | True. |
17:39.46 | Bagginsww | ya |
17:40.13 | Bagginsww | anycase sandwhich what I was trying to say that it might be considered an island to some, is in delta system |
17:40.18 | Bagginsww | and bear with me this is geological |
17:40.34 | Bagginsww | rivers that surround a raised part of land |
17:40.49 | Bagginsww | make that raised land an "island" |
17:40.56 | Bagginsww | even if the rivers are very thin |
17:41.39 | Bagginsww | even if the "streams" or "rivers" don't surround the raised part of land 100% |
17:42.10 | Bagginsww | 90% surrounding is generally enough that might still be called an "island" |
17:42.19 | Bagginsww | or at least a penninsula |
17:42.48 | Bagginsww | so yesterday I was just commenting that there are rivers that stretch nearly from sea to sea |
17:42.50 | Bagginsww | east to wast |
17:42.53 | Bagginsww | *west |
17:42.56 | Bagginsww | west to east |
17:43.05 | Bagginsww | that border the southern side of "Silvermoon" |
17:43.21 | Bagginsww | some would view that as an "island" of land |
17:43.29 | Bagginsww | as its surrounded almost completley by water |
17:43.36 | Bagginsww | rivers one side |
17:43.44 | Bagginsww | and seas on the other three sides |
17:44.55 | Bagginsww | uh is that more clear? |
17:48.28 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Quelthalassilvermoon.JPG I've ciricled two possible "islands" |
17:48.40 | Sandwichman2448 | But regardless of watery distance, it is qa thing nortn of Silvermoon? |
17:48.58 | Bagginsww | well sandwhich if you placed old map on top of the new map |
17:49.11 | Bagginsww | the river corresponds to about the same location as the old "channel" |
17:49.15 | Bagginsww | strangely |
17:49.44 | Bagginsww | all they did was "darken" in the spot where the channel used to show up on the map. |
17:50.16 | Kirkburn | Heh, GM gave me a hunter specific response :P "May your arrows always hit your target", gotta love em |
17:50.22 | Bagginsww | so if they add an island north of current penninsula, its going to be farther north than it used to be |
17:50.30 | Bagginsww | lol |
17:51.07 | Sandwichman2448 | I think it is a third island not yet in game that will be north of Silvermoon. Thet streched Quel to make 2 zones fit. |
17:51.36 | Sandwichman2448 | Hm... |
17:52.33 | Bagginsww | bear with me got another picture to show you |
17:52.51 | Bagginsww | well from an artistic standpont they just colored in the section |
17:52.58 | Bagginsww | but its always possible they could toss in a new island |
17:53.01 | Bagginsww | I hope they do imo |
17:53.15 | Bagginsww | or at least redraw the "river" on the main map ;) |
17:53.39 | Bagginsww | if it ends up being placed in the middle of eversong :p |
17:53.57 | Bagginsww | that way to keep some kind of consistant, "island" |
17:56.34 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Easternkingdoms.JPG |
17:56.58 | Bagginsww | so ya there is some other changes when they touched up the art |
17:57.10 | Bagginsww | like it now sticks more north, rather than NE |
18:06.41 | Sandwichman2448 | They streached it to make 2 zones fit in there. In the WoW manuelthere was planned only to be one. When have old maps ever been canon? |
18:07.31 | Bagginsww | uh actually concept of two zones in quel'thalas has been around pre-wow |
18:07.44 | Bagginsww | lands of conflict anyone? |
18:07.57 | Sandwichman2448 | Point taken. |
18:08.28 | Bagginsww | and yes it discussed grove as being a "third one" |
18:08.54 | Bagginsww | we don't know if there has been any retcons though |
18:09.04 | Bagginsww | Manga was very unclear |
18:09.33 | Bagginsww | in some ways it seemed to imply that well was in eversong side of things |
18:13.16 | dotted | i see Bagginsww on my screen |
18:15.09 | Sandwichman2448 | I think you may be right on the little river vs. open sea thing. If it is a new zone I think it will be asessabl via a continueation of the dead scar along a bridge. |
18:16.01 | Bagginsww | that would be interesting |
18:16.28 | Bagginsww | as I recall the mission in WC3, you had to cross over a bridge to get to the island. |
18:17.53 | Sandwichman2448 | The dead scar is obstructed at this point by some debries. |
18:18.25 | Sandwichman2448 | And it was Arthas' path to the Sunwell |
18:19.44 | Bagginsww | I've jumped over those debris btw |
18:19.51 | Bagginsww | you can get stuck back there LOL |
18:20.07 | Bagginsww | the scar continues on crosses under a few bridges |
18:20.14 | Bagginsww | between the two halves the cities |
18:20.19 | Bagginsww | and comes to a big gate |
18:20.34 | Bagginsww | I had to hearth out |
18:20.45 | Bagginsww | no way to jump back out |
18:21.32 | Kaso | Whats happened to all the Icons? |
18:21.43 | Kaso | oh i see |
18:21.52 | Kaso | has tooltip been chnaged recently? |
18:22.35 | Bagginsww | sandwich, that looks like a taco... Are tacos a type of sandwich? |
18:22.52 | Bagginsww | I mean the shell is kinda bread like |
18:22.59 | Bagginsww | and it surrounds fillings |
18:23.06 | Kaso | no yeast = no sandwich imo! |
18:23.28 | Bagginsww | flatbread sandwhiches are popular in some places |
18:24.13 | Bagginsww | although we call those Gyros, or Pitas in some forms, :) |
18:24.31 | Kaso | blasphemous! |
18:24.34 | Bagginsww | mmm pitas |
18:24.43 | Kaso | Sandwiches need yeasted bread! |
18:24.53 | Sandwichman2448 | ? |
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18:25.11 | Bagginsww | Quiznos ahs the flatbread sandwiches :p |
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18:25.26 | Sky2042 | anyone heeeeeeeare |
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18:25.38 | Bagginsww | I suppose Aram falls under flatbread category :p |
18:25.40 | Sandwichman2448 | I am |
18:26.06 | Bagginsww | http://www.epicurious.com/cooking/how_to/food_dictionary/entry?id=1160 p |
18:26.14 | Bagginsww | aram sandwhich :p |
18:26.25 | Sandwichman2448 | The image is a taco. |
18:26.34 | Bagginsww | indeed, :) |
18:26.49 | Bagginsww | so your title for the pciture had nothing to do with your opinion of it? |
18:27.00 | Sandwichman2448 | read my User page |
18:27.05 | Bagginsww | k |
18:27.43 | Bagginsww | uh who's namesake? Tacoman, ;) |
18:27.48 | Sandwichman2448 | Mine. |
18:28.05 | Bagginsww | your name is taco? |
18:28.09 | Sandwichman2448 | No... |
18:28.42 | Bagginsww | http://www.targetwoman.com/image/sandwich.jpg That's a sandwhich :) |
18:28.54 | Bagginsww | one of those crazy multi-decked ones |
18:29.05 | Sandwichman2448 | Yes, and a thick one at that. |
18:29.49 | Bagginsww | what do they call them Dagwood? |
18:30.32 | Sandwichman2448 | Those are named after the comic charicter who makes trhem out of whatever is in the fridge. |
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18:30.57 | Bagginsww | ya but they are usually like really tall in the comics right? |
18:31.07 | Sandwichman2448 | Not sure. |
18:31.26 | Bagginsww | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dagwood_sandwich ahh yes |
18:31.38 | Sandwichman2448 | I G2G my neahbor is having a pool party next door! |
18:31.44 | Sandwichman2448 | Bye |
18:31.44 | Sky2042 | kirkburn |
18:31.46 | Sky2042 | nice |
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18:32.35 | Sky2042 | ok, will you come if i call you kickbum? |
18:34.45 | Sky2042 | btw, SC2 is coming out |
18:34.50 | Sky2042 | http://www.blizzplanet.com/?action=news&id=1321 |
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18:36.16 | Bagginsww | until its canceled, :) |
18:36.25 | Sky2042 | yarly |
18:36.26 | Sky2042 | ol |
18:36.28 | Sky2042 | lol* |
18:36.32 | Bagginsww | "didn't fit our expectations" |
18:46.28 | dotted | i'm gonna kill myself if it isnt SC2 |
18:46.41 | Sky2042 | heh |
18:51.03 | Bagginsww | LOL |
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18:59.13 | dotted | shut up dead guy |
19:00.19 | Kirkburn | Woo, finally got some new skills for my pet |
19:00.34 | Kirkburn | I only had growl up to level 23 :P |
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19:09.13 | Kirkburn | Aah! Tekkub! |
19:10.46 | Tekkub | meh |
19:30.18 | Tekkub | http://www.furaffinity.net/view/517960/ |
19:30.26 | Tekkub | "Drink the damn wine" that's great |
19:37.20 | dotted | Fatal system error! |
19:37.20 | dotted | You are not allowed to view this image. This could be that your birth date is not set, or you have mature submissions turned off. |
19:37.20 | dotted | [Click here to go back] |
19:37.28 | dotted | FAIL! |
19:41.53 | Tekkub | the hell? that's one of the G-rated pics :P |
19:41.59 | Tekkub | fine, I'll supplement |
19:42.00 | Tekkub | http://www.neowin.net/index.php?act=view&id=39881 |
19:42.11 | Tekkub | *snicker* I have a new respect for Sony |
19:59.49 | Sky2042_ | sigh |
20:00.48 | Sky2042_ | can we get a block for http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Nazjatar ? vandalized blood of mannoroth |
20:01.08 | Sky2042_ | kirkburn or tekkub |
20:01.10 | Sky2042_ | ^^^^ |
20:04.31 | Sky2042_ | or bagginsww , hell |
20:04.56 | Kirkburn | Write a note on his talk page |
20:05.09 | Kirkburn | Use {{signedwelcome|}} or something |
20:05.54 | Sky2042_ | i'm fairly certain that's vandalism -_- |
20:06.07 | Kirkburn | hmm, fair enough |
20:06.21 | Gryphen | ya petty edits |
20:06.25 | Gryphen | all vandalism |
20:06.27 | Sky2042_ | "Homoroth" isn't exactly a nice name, eh? |
20:07.07 | Kirkburn | done |
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20:36.44 | foxlit | ~seen Cide |
20:37.04 | infobot | cide <n=Cide@81-237-213-149-no60.tbcn.telia.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 2d 19h 39m 15s ago, saying: 'Shirik: 7, 6'. |
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20:38.44 | Sandwichman2448 | Twilightz is a vandal! i can't work the vsandalism template1 |
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21:37.22 | Sandwichman2448 | Hello |
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22:33.35 | Kirkburn | Such a quiet day, gotta love it |
22:54.21 | xb95 | quiet is good |
22:55.27 | vlad_ | super nice over here outside today |
22:55.43 | vlad_ | going out to a bbq in a bit |
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23:17.11 | Sandwichman2448 | Hi. |
23:20.46 | Kirkburn | vlad_, enjoy the BBQ |
23:20.55 | Kirkburn | Sandwichman2448, hullo |
23:21.19 | Kirkburn | Think I may go to bed in a sec, v bored |
23:21.23 | Sandwichman2448 | Hullo to you to, Sir. |
23:21.51 | Kirkburn | I need to flip a coin as to whether to do a new UI site package tonight :P |
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23:22.26 | Kirkburn | Tails! Aww, not 2nite :P |
23:27.34 | Kirkburn | http://exhalted.ytmnd.com/ |
23:28.00 | Sandwichman2448 | Dork has connection problems. |
23:28.50 | Kirkburn | Yeah, I know :P |
23:28.58 | Kirkburn | AAallllll the time |
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23:36.30 | Kirkburn | This is just silly - http://dennalengine.ytmnd.com/ |
23:37.58 | Sandwichman2448 | What... the... !@#$. |
23:40.26 | Sandwichman2448 | As long as were off topic, I base my life on the teachings of http://www.homestarrunner.com/ |
23:40.30 | Sandwichman2448 | Not really. |
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23:51.44 | Sandwichman2448 | Still quiet |
23:58.16 | Sandwichman2448 | Any issuetastic issues to disscus? |
23:58.42 | Kirkburn | Nothing I'm willing to stay up for ;) |
23:58.54 | Kirkburn | And yes, Homestarrunner ftw |
23:59.46 | Kaso | Homestarrunner, isnt that a little two years ago |