| 00:00.09 | Kirkburn | The way one of my friends 'told' us he was bi was via myspace I think - he basically told us all to look at his profile on the pretence of getting us to check it. It's an odd but interesting way of revealing stuff. |
| 00:01.28 | sancus | myspace is too shitty |
| 00:01.34 | sancus | I can't bring myself to really use it |
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| 00:01.50 | sancus | it's like the ghetto of social networking sites |
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| 00:05.33 | Gryphen | check out Great Games Experiment :) |
| 00:06.44 | Tekkub | of course sancus, that's where everyone's there |
| 00:07.41 | Kirkburn | MySpace = emo |
| 00:07.45 | Kirkburn | Emo = MySpace |
| 00:07.54 | Tekkub | MySpacEmo? |
| 00:08.05 | Kirkburn | Therefore MySpace equals Alt+F4 |
| 00:08.08 | Kirkburn | QED |
| 00:08.13 | Gryphen | MyEmoSpace |
| 00:08.19 | sancus | that is totally why everyone's there |
| 00:08.26 | sancus | I agree |
| 00:08.42 | sancus | Fortunately I don't need to be part of that particular everyone :P |
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| 00:31.06 | cladhaire | yay for sigs! |
| 00:31.36 | Adys | hehe |
| 00:31.42 | Adys | you got addicted clad <3 |
| 00:32.02 | cladhaire | meh, just like to have something when I do participate =) |
| 00:32.08 | Adys | :) |
| 00:32.09 | cladhaire | which all depends on how much I hate my job on a given day |
| 00:34.52 | Bagginsww | Picked up my cap and gown today. Feels so weird that I'm almost through with my Junior College, and soon moving on heh. |
| 00:35.11 | Bagginsww | About time :p |
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| 00:39.56 | cladhaire | grats Bagginsww =) |
| 00:43.26 | Bagginsww | Thanks |
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| 02:06.16 | Adys | heya DT |
| 02:06.27 | DuTempete | sup! |
| 02:06.42 | Adys | hm oO just reactive |
| 02:06.44 | DuTempete | I need a beer. |
| 02:07.22 | DuTempete | And how awesome is it that I was able to get one w/o getting otu of my chair. |
| 02:14.55 | Zicon | You need a beer launching fridge. |
| 02:18.41 | DuTempete | I have a fridge w/in arms reach. |
| 02:18.57 | DuTempete | Althought it *would* be nice to not have to move at all. |
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| 02:19.02 | DuTempete | POOF! Beer in hand! |
| 02:19.41 | DuTempete | ~Adys |
| 02:19.43 | infobot | [adys] sorry because he sucks with styling and css, or the author of EnchantBot. No, you don't have to care about that but people think they are cool when they make me tell you what addon they write. |
| 02:19.59 | Adys2010 | sigh |
| 02:20.05 | DuTempete | That doesn't make sense... |
| 02:20.13 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+o Adys] by ChanServ |
| 02:20.17 | DuTempete | wtf? |
| 02:21.03 | DuTempete | You need to fix that, Adys, or I'll do it for you. |
| 02:21.29 | DuTempete | And you wont like the things I would whisper in infobot's ear. |
| 02:21.33 | DuTempete | ~Kirkburn |
| 02:21.35 | infobot | I heard his gear was hacked by DuTempete, and now he's chatting with us naked. |
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| 02:29.16 | Adys | ~log |
| 02:29.17 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, log is as piece of wood, or a record, or the opposite of exponentiation |
| 02:29.21 | Adys | ~logs |
| 02:29.23 | infobot | somebody said logs was apt/ibot/infobot/jbot/purl all log daily to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz |
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| 02:34.30 | DuTempete | howdy Kitan |
| 02:34.40 | Kitan | heya |
| 02:35.16 | Kitan | what is going on tonigt? |
| 02:35.29 | DuTempete | nothing interesting |
| 02:54.41 | Sorak | someone had my nick |
| 02:54.42 | Sorak | :( |
| 02:54.52 | Sorak | switched to this one from Kitan |
| 02:55.36 | DuTempete | ack |
| 02:57.13 | DuTempete | later peeps |
| 03:46.05 | Adys | http://www.wowhead.com/?screenshot=view&3.31332#21571 haha, awesome |
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| 04:09.11 | Adys | nn peeps |
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| 05:01.49 | Skyfire | bagginsww: you here? |
| 05:02.09 | Skyfire | btw, what's with the "We sank the Titanic" message? :) |
| 05:03.52 | Skyfire | eh, anyway, when bagginsww comes back, i found another retcon |
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| 05:30.36 | Skyfire | baggins didn't come back... |
| 05:37.24 | Skyfire | oookkk.... who killed my wiki? |
| 05:40.44 | Skyfire | grr |
| 05:41.10 | Skyfire | anyway, baggins, i guess i'll talk later with you... |
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| 05:42.22 | Viper007Bond | site down for anyone else? |
| 05:44.55 | Skyfire | yar |
| 05:44.56 | Skyfire | it died |
| 05:45.19 | Viper007Bond | d'oh |
| 05:46.22 | Skyfire | indeed |
| 05:50.53 | Skyfire | server really took a shit |
| 05:50.57 | Skyfire | wonder what fandy did |
| 05:50.58 | Skyfire | lol |
| 05:51.01 | Skyfire | sancus? |
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| 05:54.55 | Skyfire | ugh... sancus |
| 05:56.13 | Skyfire | viper, if sancus comes on, tell him to help fix our wiki... :( |
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| 06:02.38 | Bagginsww | hey skyfire you still on? |
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| 06:19.33 | sancus | . |
| 06:19.49 | dotted | me? |
| 06:21.24 | sancus | not you |
| 06:21.27 | sancus | in general |
| 06:21.34 | Skyfire | baggins |
| 06:21.46 | Skyfire | you here? |
| 06:21.49 | sancus | vlad is sitting across from me restarting the server |
| 06:21.54 | Skyfire | thanks! :) |
| 06:22.01 | sancus | stuff crashed or something |
| 06:22.06 | sancus | very odd, will have to look into it later |
| 06:22.13 | Skyfire | lol, just missed me bagginsww. you still here? |
| 06:22.18 | Skyfire | blgh |
| 06:22.25 | Skyfire | (@ the server) |
| 06:22.58 | Skyfire | in other news, kurt vonnegut died :( |
| 06:23.06 | Skyfire | that makes me sad |
| 06:23.38 | dotted | who? |
| 06:24.11 | Skyfire | kurt vonnegut: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_Vonnegut |
| 06:24.18 | Skyfire | american satirical author |
| 06:24.43 | Skyfire | he's got a bunch of books on the ap test, if they are used few and far between |
| 06:25.35 | sancus | fucking log files |
| 06:28.34 | vlad_ | I clearly need better monitoring scripts |
| 06:28.40 | vlad_ | too many false positives :( |
| 06:29.56 | sancus | write a disk space == 0 check |
| 06:30.02 | vlad_ | well |
| 06:30.08 | sancus | or well |
| 06:30.09 | vlad_ | yeah, that needs to run on the server, but yeah |
| 06:30.17 | sancus | <whatever, really, not 0 |
| 06:30.19 | vlad_ | i'll do that tomorrow |
| 06:30.20 | vlad_ | right |
| 06:30.27 | Skyfire | one of america's great authors dies, and not a single topic on the front page of the ot forum. |
| 06:30.34 | sancus | you'll do that tomorrow before or after SURVIVOR |
| 06:30.40 | Skyfire | ]oh wait |
| 06:30.44 | Skyfire | there is one! |
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| 07:06.58 | Bagginsww | wow, Database error, can't say I've seen that problem before |
| 07:11.32 | sancus | heh |
| 07:11.46 | sancus | the server did its ran-out-of-disk-space dance earlier |
| 07:11.57 | sancus | but it should be mostly OK now |
| 07:12.29 | Shadowed | "now" being now or in 5m? :p |
| 07:14.37 | sancus | no, now as in now |
| 07:14.48 | sancus | now as in for the last while, in fact |
| 07:14.59 | Tekkub | well right now, it look broked |
| 07:15.02 | Shadowed | ^ |
| 07:15.09 | Shadowed | Error: 145 Table './wowwiki/user' is marked as crashed and should be repaired (localhost) |
| 07:15.18 | Tekkub | so the server's now must be in another time zone |
| 07:16.00 | vlad_ | god |
| 07:16.15 | vlad_ | sure, repairing |
| 07:16.18 | Tekkub | wow, even got vlad talking |
| 07:16.22 | Tekkub | must be a good crash |
| 07:16.34 | sancus | vlad is sitting right next to me so it's easier to poke him |
| 07:16.54 | Shadowed | there we go |
| 07:17.26 | sancus | the server ran out of disk space and that table was corrupted but we didn't notice because we didn't go to any pages that use it, so yeah |
| 07:17.33 | sancus | we should probably have tests or something. |
| 07:17.44 | vlad_ | or we should just not use shitty mysql |
| 07:17.56 | sancus | well hurry up and upgrade then |
| 07:17.58 | vlad_ | already dumped one pile of crap |
| 07:19.00 | sancus | besides, it wouldn't happen if the tables weren't myisam, mysql or not |
| 07:22.38 | vlad_ | yeah, I might just convert to innodb since that's straightforward |
| 07:30.09 | Tekkub | this mean incoming upgrades? |
| 07:34.13 | sancus | who can say? |
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| 08:42.31 | MatthewS | the conversion to innodb can be done pretty easily |
| 08:42.46 | MatthewS | at least easily in the sense of probably not taking the whole site down :) |
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| 09:32.05 | winkiller | sancus: *ping* |
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| 11:25.49 | JunkHead | Morning. |
| 11:26.58 | Teomyr | hi |
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| 12:53.30 | |FF|Im2good4u | http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_API#Meeting_Stone_Functions <- arent those functions removed ? |
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| 13:18.07 | Kitan | doods and such |
| 13:20.05 | |FF|Im2good4u | yes? |
| 13:20.40 | Kitan | just saying hi :) |
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| 13:43.01 | SiTRiC | hi |
| 13:43.10 | SiTRiC | i have a question |
| 13:43.22 | SiTRiC | which class do i chose |
| 13:43.34 | Kitan|Work | in the game? |
| 13:43.53 | SiTRiC | i want a class which can have pets.... and can travel on them |
| 13:43.57 | SiTRiC | yes in the game |
| 13:44.07 | Kitan|Work | all classes can get mounts in the game at level 40 |
| 13:44.15 | Kitan|Work | Hunters and Warlocks get pets |
| 13:44.19 | SiTRiC | i'm new to WoW |
| 13:44.30 | Kitan|Work | I believe high level frost mages get a pet in the end game but not early |
| 13:44.36 | Kitan|Work | Hunters and Warlocks get pets at level 10 |
| 13:44.39 | equiraptor | Not really "end game". |
| 13:44.42 | Kitan|Work | you can never ride your pet |
| 13:44.53 | Kitan|Work | thus the believe equi. :) When do they get the elemental |
| 13:44.54 | Kitan|Work | ? |
| 13:44.56 | equiraptor | Mages can get a sort-of pet as early as level 50, but it's not a pet like the hunter and warlock pets. |
| 13:45.12 | Teomyr | http://www.wowwiki.com/Class |
| 13:45.14 | equiraptor | It requires 41 points in the Frost talent tree. |
| 13:46.27 | equiraptor | There are a few classes who get those "not quite pets" at higher levels. Priests and shaman get them, too, I think. |
| 13:46.38 | SiTRiC | i'm choosing the human race |
| 13:46.39 | SiTRiC | so do i have to be a warlock to have a pet..? |
| 13:46.39 | Adys | When was wowwiki upgraded to 1.7.3? |
| 13:46.39 | Teomyr | only warlocks and hunters have real pets that stay and fight with you all the time |
| 13:46.49 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/MediaWiki / http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Version |
| 13:47.02 | Kitan|Work | Human's can't be hunters |
| 13:47.10 | equiraptor | Yes, SiTRiC, as a human, warlocks are the only true pet class you could play. |
| 13:47.15 | Kitan|Work | so if you want a pet and to be human you will have to be a Warlock |
| 13:47.22 | equiraptor | And warlocks like to call their pets summoned demons, not pets. :) |
| 13:47.31 | Adys | Minions :P |
| 13:47.39 | equiraptor | Yeah. |
| 13:47.40 | equiraptor | That too. |
| 13:47.44 | equiraptor | Anything but "pet" ;) |
| 13:47.56 | SiTRiC | ok thanks |
| 13:48.03 | SiTRiC | got to go play now.. |
| 13:48.13 | SiTRiC | and btw.. i'm playing on a private server |
| 13:48.17 | SiTRiC | b3cks |
| 13:48.18 | equiraptor | Don't tell us that. |
| 13:48.19 | Adys | is this 1.7.3 version new? |
| 13:48.31 | SiTRiC | 1.12.1 |
| 13:48.33 | Adys | i really thought we were running 1.7.1 aswell |
| 13:48.37 | Adys | not wow, mediawiki |
| 13:48.54 | Teomyr | playing on a private server may ruin your wow experience |
| 13:48.55 | SiTRiC | which is the best private server? |
| 13:49.08 | Adys | SiTRiC: this isnt the place to talk about it |
| 13:49.12 | equiraptor | None of them. :-P |
| 13:50.36 | Teomyr | private servers are a lot different from the real world of warcraft (read: worse). i'd recommend playing on the official servers, esp if you're new |
| 13:50.52 | Teomyr | and they're illegal, that's why it's not allowed to talk about them in here |
| 13:52.00 | Adys | wow, mediawiki.org is slower than wowwiki atm |
| 13:52.15 | winkiller | wow, that is an achievement |
| 13:52.29 | Teomyr | not at all, it's really fast oO |
| 13:52.49 | winkiller | private servers are only good for other games. like those were levelling takes 3-0x the time and no respecs possible |
| 13:52.56 | winkiller | in wow it's kind of pointless |
| 13:53.13 | Adys | teo |
| 13:53.14 | Adys | http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_Matrix |
| 13:53.47 | Adys | hah their google stuff isnt correct |
| 13:55.22 | winkiller | *cry* I want my login back |
| 14:02.21 | Kitan|Work | your login? |
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| 14:07.12 | Kitan | oops |
| 14:08.20 | Adys | wow |
| 14:08.50 | Adys | http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmEdit I dont imagine if that was implemented on wowwiki if i'd ever had the courage to do 1/100 of the icon work |
| 14:09.05 | Teomyr | lol |
| 14:09.31 | Adys | theres some interesting stuff |
| 14:09.57 | Adys | looking through sourcecodes and interesting extensions |
| 14:09.59 | Adys | ~ http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Bad_Image_List |
| 14:11.22 | Adys | http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ImageLink |
| 14:13.14 | Teomyr | don't we have imagelink already? |
| 14:13.20 | Adys | y we do |
| 14:13.27 | Adys | http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:XML_Class we could do something out of that btw |
| 14:15.21 | Teomyr | interesting |
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| 14:19.50 | Teomyr | brb |
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| 14:28.10 | teomyr | too bad |
| 14:28.30 | teomyr | my regular irc client doesn't seem to support ipv6 |
| 14:31.13 | Kitan|Work | you are running ipv6? |
| 14:31.48 | teomyr | i'm testing it, yes |
| 14:31.56 | Kitan|Work | ahh |
| 14:32.19 | teomyr | but only few applications can use it |
| 14:36.17 | Kitan|Work | nod |
| 14:37.20 | equiraptor | What's your regular IRC client? |
| 14:37.49 | teomyr | klient |
| 14:38.09 | equiraptor | Ah, how do you like it? |
| 14:38.57 | Hobinheim|work | what does an irc client have to do with ipv6? |
| 14:39.26 | teomyr | i like it very much. it has a nice UI and good scripting support |
| 14:40.35 | teomyr | Hobinheim|work: it needs to be able to handle ipv6 addresses |
| 14:40.46 | Hobinheim|work | uhh... who's using ipv6? |
| 14:41.00 | Hobinheim|work | communists, i bet |
| 14:41.05 | teomyr | not many, yet :P |
| 14:41.33 | equiraptor | "not many, yet" as been the story the entire time I've known wha IPv6 is. :-P |
| 14:41.45 | teomyr | hehe |
| 14:43.38 | Kitan|Work | for near on a decade. :D |
| 14:44.25 | Kitan|Work | it has been a while at least |
| 14:44.48 | teomyr | the "problem" is, probably, that there is no shortage in ipv4 addresses... yet |
| 14:45.01 | teomyr | but that will probably change in a few years :P |
| 14:45.04 | Kitan|Work | well |
| 14:45.16 | Kitan|Work | I also think the "problem" is how much it will cost to change router infrastructure |
| 14:45.28 | teomyr | yeah |
| 14:45.43 | Kitan|Work | as people replace their infrastructure to one that handles both it will become more plausible |
| 14:46.06 | teomyr | why pay money to make the infrastructure ipv6 ready when ipv4 is still sufficient... |
| 14:46.38 | Kitan|Work | right. We are slowly upgrading I know only because as our stuff dies you buy a new piece and that can handle IPv6 |
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| 15:02.54 | Kitan|Work | heya gryphen |
| 15:03.10 | Gryphen | howdy |
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| 15:14.22 | Kitan|Work | and a heya to Scr3em too |
| 15:14.27 | Kitan|Work | 9 minutes late :) |
| 15:18.35 | Kitan|Work | Gah! |
| 15:19.16 | Hobinheim|work | hail Gryphen! |
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| 15:19.24 | Gryphen | hola |
| 15:20.47 | Kitan|Work | The examples I was coding from all use Amt {{template}} and found some that use Amt{{template}} |
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| 15:32.46 | Kitan|Work | Adys |
| 15:32.52 | Adys | y? |
| 15:33.07 | Kitan|Work | Watchout says he is done with the bot but needs to wait to run it |
| 15:33.12 | Adys | aye |
| 15:33.14 | Kitan|Work | so i am going to stop working on cost |
| 15:33.20 | Adys | ok:) |
| 15:33.26 | Adys | its up to you |
| 15:33.40 | Kitan|Work | No reason to duplicate work.. though I was nearly done with the marks update. |
| 15:33.48 | Kitan|Work | so you still want to wait on the Icon request? |
| 15:33.57 | Adys | y |
| 15:34.11 | Kitan|Work | ok. i will just stop working on the bot stuff then. :) |
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| 15:35.58 | Adys | did someone send me an irc pm? |
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| 15:44.03 | winkiller | wtf is that |
| 15:44.03 | winkiller | there are queries and maybe memos |
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| 16:24.05 | Tuqui-tuqui | ... |
| 16:24.05 | Tuqui-tuqui | I was wondering why it was so quiet in here |
| 16:24.05 | Tuqui-tuqui | I hadnt joined the channel =\ |
| 16:24.05 | teomyr | :D |
| 16:24.05 | sancus | because everyone hates you |
| 16:24.05 | Tuqui-tuqui | I knows... :< |
| 16:24.05 | Tuqui-tuqui | but I luv everyone |
| 16:24.08 | Tuqui-tuqui | so it evens out |
| 16:24.11 | sancus | lol |
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| 16:40.59 | winkiller | sancus: I need your help! :) |
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| 16:41.53 | winkiller | forgot pass, and send pass yields no result, I need to know what email I provided, guess a typo or wrong one :/ |
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| 16:47.05 | Adys | hey kirk :) |
| 16:47.10 | Kirkburn | yo |
| 16:47.23 | Teomyr | hi |
| 16:47.31 | Gryphen | heya |
| 16:49.00 | Kirkburn | New graveyards, flightpoints and flightpaths! http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=94959528&sid=1 |
| 16:50.38 | Adys | nice find |
| 16:50.38 | Kirkburn | :) |
| 16:51.08 | sancus | winkiller: can't really help you with that atm, ask me on monday or something, I don't have my private key for server access atm |
| 16:51.16 | winkiller | sancus: ok thanks |
| 16:51.20 | Adys | lol new darkmoon cards |
| 16:51.42 | Bibi` | Kirkburn : flasks nerfed, new darkmoon cards confirming "fake" patch notes |
| 16:51.52 | Bibi` | primal nether buyable with heroic badges |
| 16:52.03 | Adys | hah |
| 16:52.08 | Adys | that'd be an idea tho |
| 16:52.09 | Kirkburn | wah? |
| 16:52.19 | Bibi` | what ? primal nether buyable with heroic badges ? |
| 16:52.20 | Bibi` | it's official |
| 16:52.29 | Bibi` | got the links on www.mmo-champion.com , too lazy to copy past everything :p |
| 16:52.40 | Bibi` | and now, afk |
| 16:52.40 | Adys | is it? |
| 16:52.44 | Adys | interesting |
| 16:53.07 | Kirkburn | Oh the pastey notes? |
| 16:53.28 | Kirkburn | http://pastey.net/11284 ? |
| 17:02.02 | Kirkburn | http://www.myextralife.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/wowadvert.gif |
| 17:04.30 | Kirkburn | All profession changes! http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=94849591&sid=1 |
| 17:21.42 | Tuqui-tuqui | Elixirs now stack in two categories, Battle (Offensive) and Guardian (Defensive) Elixirs. You can only have one of each type of Elixir up at a time. As a result Elixirs now stack with class abilities such as "Arcane Intellect." |
| 17:21.44 | Tuqui-tuqui | yay! |
| 17:21.45 | Tuqui-tuqui | :D |
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| 17:39.47 | norgul | hi folks |
| 17:39.59 | norgul | got new crit today :D |
| 17:57.29 | Kirkburn | Blizzcon 2007! |
| 17:57.30 | Kirkburn | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=94849650&sid=1 |
| 17:58.24 | *** topic/#wowwiki by Kirkburn -> Channel info: tinyurl.com/36u82j | RC list: tinyurl.com/2oawam | UI questions? Join #wowi-lounge | Current project: edit and organise class pages! | Go vote! http://tinyurl.com/yp3t5l | Blizzcon 2007! http://www.blizzard.com/press/070412.shtml |
| 17:58.54 | Kirkburn | Anaheim Convention Center in Anaheim, California on August 3 and 4 |
| 17:59.19 | norgul | meeting or something? |
| 17:59.35 | Kirkburn | Yeah, convention run by Blizzard |
| 17:59.42 | norgul | cool |
| 18:00.18 | norgul | you'll be there? |
| 18:01.42 | Tuqui-tuqui | -.- |
| 18:01.58 | Tuqui-tuqui | I think the only good thing out o there are the bonus content for their games |
| 18:02.09 | norgul | Tuqui-tuqui :D |
| 18:02.18 | norgul | I got new crit record today |
| 18:02.21 | Tuqui-tuqui | hi norgul :) |
| 18:02.24 | Tuqui-tuqui | whats that? |
| 18:02.34 | norgul | 1194 |
| 18:02.38 | norgul | frostbolt |
| 18:02.42 | Tuqui-tuqui | oohhh nice |
| 18:03.06 | norgul | I took a level 59 druid in BG too |
| 18:03.14 | norgul | i'm 56 |
| 18:03.59 | norgul | I feel me powerful :P |
| 18:04.06 | Tuqui-tuqui | :) |
| 18:04.34 | norgul | I beat almost every class in duel now |
| 18:04.47 | norgul | shamans too |
| 18:05.12 | Kirkburn | News summary - http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#WoW_and_Blizzcon_news.21 |
| 18:05.38 | norgul | Paladin is easy peasy now :P |
| 18:06.03 | Tuqui-tuqui | IN PVP I usually ignore pallies |
| 18:06.08 | Tuqui-tuqui | I focus on everything else |
| 18:06.13 | Tuqui-tuqui | stupid bubble -.- |
| 18:06.17 | norgul | yeh |
| 18:06.26 | norgul | i beat them anyways :P |
| 18:07.06 | norgul | http://armory.wow-europe.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Burning+Blade&n=Gulnor |
| 18:07.10 | norgul | here is my character |
| 18:09.43 | Kitan|Work | bleh |
| 18:09.58 | norgul | bad? |
| 18:11.11 | Tuqui-tuqui | it's fine |
| 18:11.28 | norgul | need new gear |
| 18:11.39 | norgul | but doesn't care before level 60 |
| 18:12.16 | norgul | http://armory.wow-europe.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Die+Nachtwache&n=Harryp |
| 18:12.26 | norgul | he crits 5000 with ice lance |
| 18:12.51 | norgul | he's the best mage on the server he plays on |
| 18:18.28 | Tuqui-tuqui | what his guild? |
| 18:18.53 | norgul | http://armory.wow-europe.com/#guild-info.xml?r=Die+Nachtwache&n=Abgesandte%20Asgards&p=1 |
| 18:19.01 | Tuqui-tuqui | doesnt link |
| 18:19.05 | Tuqui-tuqui | give me his guild name |
| 18:19.07 | norgul | It's on a german server |
| 18:19.18 | Tuqui-tuqui | found him |
| 18:19.20 | norgul | Abgesandte Asgards |
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| 18:23.35 | norgul | Tuqui-tuqui, you live in the USA? |
| 18:25.33 | *** topic/#wowwiki by Kirkburn -> Channel info: tinyurl.com/36u82j | RC list: tinyurl.com/2oawam | UI questions? Join #wowi-lounge | Current project: edit and organise class pages! | Go vote! http://tinyurl.com/yp3t5l | Blizzcon 2007 and 2.1 notes! http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#WoW_and_Blizzcon_news.21 |
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| 18:29.16 | Tuqui-tuqui | yes |
| 18:29.45 | *** topic/#wowwiki by Kirkburn -> Channel info: tinyurl.com/36u82j | RC list: tinyurl.com/2oawam | UI questions? Join #wowi-lounge | Current project: edit and organise class pages! | Go vote! http://tinyurl.com/yp3t5l | Blizzcon 2007 and 2.1 notes! http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Warcraft_pump#WoW_and_Blizzcon_news.21 |
| 18:29.54 | Kirkburn | Trust me to put the stuff on the wrong pump :P |
| 18:30.09 | Tuqui-tuqui | jive turkey Kirkburn >.> |
| 18:30.26 | norgul | i want to play on the american servers |
| 18:30.41 | Kitan|Work | Question: Why are Questtb, and Itemset_Link templates being moved not on the bot requests page? |
| 18:30.44 | Kitan|Work | any particular reason? |
| 18:31.16 | Kirkburn | Nope |
| 18:31.35 | Kirkburn | Just a case of people forgetting about them, the bot page is relatively new |
| 18:31.43 | Kitan|Work | so in theory I could do them? |
| 18:31.50 | Kirkburn | norgul, I'm in the UK, so no Blizzcon for me either |
| 18:32.02 | norgul | i see |
| 18:32.12 | Kirkburn | In theory, but I'd put them on the page first beforehand |
| 18:32.12 | Kitan|Work | there isn't much there besides, deprecated. Would you know where I could look to see what has replaced them? |
| 18:32.26 | Kitan|Work | nod |
| 18:32.34 | norgul | what server di you play on, Kickburn? |
| 18:32.43 | norgul | do* |
| 18:32.45 | Kirkburn | Dragonblight, and it's an 'r' :P |
| 18:32.58 | norgul | r? :P |
| 18:33.06 | Kirkburn | <-- |
| 18:33.15 | norgul | ah |
| 18:33.18 | Kirkburn | =) |
| 18:33.29 | norgul | Kirk |
| 18:33.32 | norgul | sorry :P |
| 18:33.42 | Kirkburn | Kitan|Work, don't know tbh |
| 18:33.45 | norgul | not wearing my glasses |
| 18:33.51 | norgul | faction? |
| 18:34.05 | Kirkburn | I /think/ the questtb thing is supposed to be going completely |
| 18:34.14 | Kirkburn | Alliance |
| 18:34.20 | Kirkburn | (normally) |
| 18:34.29 | norgul | ok, good |
| 18:39.17 | ClydeJr | I'd say replace questtb with questlong |
| 18:44.03 | ClydeJr | Any chance we could get a "set" parameter added to Template:Tooltip for armor sets and such? |
| 18:46.18 | Kirkburn | That does sounds like a good idea |
| 18:46.22 | Kirkburn | Is it mentioned on the talk page? |
| 18:50.41 | ClydeJr | Maybe, the talk page is pretty messy. I think I'll add a section at the top for requests. Are any admin types watching it since only they can edit it? |
| 19:00.41 | Kirkburn | The template? Yes, it's watched |
| 19:00.53 | Kirkburn | Not even admins are supposed to edit it :P |
| 19:01.03 | Kirkburn | Tidy the talk page? |
| 19:02.02 | Kitan|Work | well who can edit the template then? |
| 19:02.09 | Kitan|Work | Rus? :-P |
| 19:02.52 | Kirkburn | We can edit it, but it's extremely sensitive |
| 19:03.07 | Kirkburn | Editing it now would probably kill the wiki for about 5-10 mins |
| 19:03.13 | Kitan|Work | That sounds like, "breaks easily" |
| 19:03.18 | Kitan|Work | because it is used so much? |
| 19:03.21 | Kirkburn | Aye |
| 19:03.37 | Kitan|Work | hrm |
| 19:03.47 | Kitan|Work | seems dangerous to be that dependant on a single template |
| 19:04.07 | Kitan|Work | what are you going to do though. Anyway |
| 19:04.38 | Teomyr | i don't want to know what would happen if a template with such massive usage was changed on wikipedia :O |
| 19:06.25 | Kitan|Work | how are we going to change it? |
| 19:06.33 | Kirkburn | The error message does appear on wikipedia sometimes, could be a result. They've got a better setup anyway |
| 19:06.36 | Kitan|Work | essentially create a backup and copy it there? |
| 19:06.44 | Kitan|Work | when ready? |
| 19:06.54 | Kitan|Work | letting everyone know "it" is going to hit the fan? |
| 19:06.57 | Kirkburn | No, we make sure the proposed edits are perfected and agreed beforehand |
| 19:07.12 | Kitan|Work | right that is what I mean |
| 19:07.25 | Kirkburn | Well, not had to really do anything for it yet, but I'd try and make the change early morning EU |
| 19:07.29 | Kitan|Work | create teh proposed changes somewhere like Kirk/Etc |
| 19:07.40 | Kitan|Work | and then modify it accordingly |
| 19:07.47 | Kitan|Work | early morning EU huh? :) |
| 19:07.51 | Kirkburn | Aye, can do |
| 19:07.52 | Kitan|Work | anyway |
| 19:12.22 | Kitan|Work | So ClydeJr thinks questtb should change to questlong? |
| 19:12.41 | Kitan|Work | Hobenheim i am sure you are for that too? Not sure if you have the beep like others have. :) |
| 19:13.15 | Hobinheim|afk | if this is about purifying quest links that favor thottbot, then yes |
| 19:13.25 | Hobinheim|afk | and yes, the phrase h-o-b pings me |
| 19:13.36 | Hobinheim|afk | and don't talk about the little furry people from lord of the rings |
| 19:14.17 | Kitan|Work | right.. I meant changing Questtb since that is deprecated |
| 19:14.21 | Kitan|Work | wondering how it should be changed. |
| 19:14.29 | Kitan|Work | and ClydeJr suggested Questlong |
| 19:14.40 | Hobinheim|afk | slowly and manually probably |
| 19:14.49 | Kirkburn | hob hob hob hob hob hob. Hob. hobhob. hobbity not hobbit. Hob. :) |
| 19:14.57 | Hobinheim|afk | the right thing to do would be to import the number used there into a questbox |
| 19:15.03 | Hobinheim|afk | i've never liked questlong... |
| 19:15.11 | Hobinheim|afk | it's very... redundant |
| 19:15.22 | Hobinheim|afk | requiring the citer of the template to do legwork for each citation |
| 19:15.29 | Hobinheim|afk | but no, i don't really have any alternatives |
| 19:15.36 | Kitan|Work | hrmn |
| 19:15.41 | Hobinheim|afk | and i haven't sat down to think of a better solution |
| 19:15.51 | Kitan|Work | I was going to bot it from Questtb to Questlong.. But you are suggesting questbox is the better way |
| 19:15.54 | Hobinheim|afk | actually, i do have a solution, akin to the style of the way i want to do items and tooltips |
| 19:15.58 | Hobinheim|afk | but i haven't explained it to anyone |
| 19:16.07 | Kitan|Work | this is for links from one quest to another right? |
| 19:16.10 | Hobinheim|afk | it's kinda like that sub pages garbage no one liked before |
| 19:16.12 | Kitan|Work | well for anything to a quest? |
| 19:16.27 | Hobinheim|afk | no questbox is not a one to one replacement for questtb |
| 19:16.28 | Hobinheim|afk | questlong is |
| 19:16.34 | Hobinheim|afk | questbox is the infobox for the actual quest article |
| 19:16.51 | Hobinheim|afk | KIRKBURN!!!!! |
| 19:17.00 | Hobinheim|afk | oo i can just do emoticons now |
| 19:17.02 | Hobinheim|afk | :argh: |
| 19:17.16 | Hobinheim|afk | someone showed me a special emoticons pack for trillian |
| 19:17.27 | Hobinheim|afk | now my screen looks amazing but you all think what i type is crazy :) |
| 19:17.27 | Kitan|Work | right but this is the quest link.. a link to the quest.. |
| 19:17.30 | Kirkburn | I just saw : argh : ... but good enough for me :) |
| 19:17.32 | Kitan|Work | that is the purpose of questtb right? |
| 19:17.39 | Kirkburn | Aye |
| 19:17.53 | Kitan|Work | nevermind |
| 19:17.57 | Kitan|Work | well |
| 19:17.58 | Kirkburn | But we want the quest info on the wiki, and cut down on external linls |
| 19:18.01 | Hobinheim|afk | my point is that little children's souls went into researching the appropriate tb id for the quest |
| 19:18.03 | Kitan|Work | right right |
| 19:18.07 | Hobinheim|afk | and that information technically shouldn't be wasted |
| 19:18.10 | Kitan|Work | but questlong links to the wiki internally |
| 19:18.15 | Hobinheim|afk | yes |
| 19:18.25 | Kitan|Work | questbox is if you are on a quest page already |
| 19:18.30 | Hobinheim|afk | yes |
| 19:18.32 | ClydeJr | that should be included in a elinks-quest, shouldn't it? |
| 19:18.34 | Kitan|Work | questlong should be on pages that aren't Quest: |
| 19:18.40 | Hobinheim|afk | i don't know who did elinks quest |
| 19:18.46 | Kirkburn | The only time quests should be linked externally is 1). on the quest page 2). if we don't have a quest page |
| 19:18.48 | Hobinheim|afk | Kitan|Work, no |
| 19:18.54 | Hobinheim|afk | questbox is precisely for Quest: articles |
| 19:18.59 | Kitan|Work | correct |
| 19:19.02 | Kitan|Work | I just said that |
| 19:19.08 | Hobinheim|afk | [15:18] Kitan|Work: questlong should be on pages that aren't Quest: |
| 19:19.18 | Kitan|Work | questlong is only for say the deadmines instance page which isn't a Quest: page |
| 19:19.33 | Kitan|Work | linking from deadmines instance to a bunch of quests for deadmines |
| 19:19.37 | Kitan|Work | uses questlong |
| 19:19.39 | ClydeJr | you could use questlong on the quest chain section of a Quest: page |
| 19:19.40 | Hobinheim|afk | ... |
| 19:19.46 | Kitan|Work | any "Quest:" page would use questbox |
| 19:19.46 | Kitan|Work | right? |
| 19:19.50 | Hobinheim|afk | :psyduck: |
| 19:20.01 | Kitan|Work | seriously I am that confused? |
| 19:20.08 | Hobinheim|afk | yes questboxes are only for quest articles |
| 19:20.13 | Hobinheim|afk | questlong is for making links to quests. done. |
| 19:20.23 | Kitan|Work | for instance |
| 19:20.25 | Kitan|Work | http://www.wowwiki.com/The_Deadmines |
| 19:20.28 | Kitan|Work | that page uses questlong |
| 19:20.35 | Kitan|Work | http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:Collecting_Memories |
| 19:20.48 | Kitan|Work | that page uses questbox to link to the next quest further down the chain |
| 19:20.49 | Adys | The Deadmines should be Deadmines |
| 19:20.53 | Adys | ah, and it is, nvm |
| 19:21.02 | Kirkburn | Btw, Amanda Lamb ftw |
| 19:21.21 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 19:21.54 | Kitan|Work | I just want to be sure I understand |
| 19:22.04 | Kitan|Work | I don't want to make a mass of changes and screw everything up |
| 19:22.17 | Kitan|Work | :) |
| 19:24.56 | ClydeJr | BTW Kitan, that other template you mentioned (Itemset_link) pretty much only appears on those goofy /Tooltip transcluded pages which I think we want to get away from |
| 19:25.30 | Hobinheim|afk | but those goofy transcluded pages are like... really easy to use |
| 19:25.35 | Hobinheim|afk | i wonder if they were slowing up the wiki? |
| 19:27.48 | Hobinheim|afk | i guess if transclusion isn't in favor then i'm not sure what to do |
| 19:29.30 | Kitan|Work | I think you are correct ClydeJr |
| 19:29.40 | ClydeJr | I just thought it was weird to have about 6 different pages for 1 item: Main page, tooltip page, price page, icon page, etc. |
| 19:30.12 | Kitan|Work | Hob, the questbox template page says for money that you should use {{gsc}} etc |
| 19:30.25 | Kitan|Work | we should be using cost there right? I don't want to modify the template page nad hork the wiki |
| 19:30.44 | Kitan|Work | or does it not hork the wiki if it is in a <noinclude> section? |
| 19:30.48 | Kitan|Work | as i am sure the documentation is |
| 19:31.18 | Hobinheim|afk | ii'm not following |
| 19:31.48 | Kitan|Work | under optional on questbox, look at the money param |
| 19:32.02 | Hobinheim|afk | ok... |
| 19:32.09 | Kitan|Work | it says use these templates, but those are all now supposed to be {{Cost}} right? |
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| 19:32.32 | Hobinheim|afk | ugh... |
| 19:32.33 | Hobinheim|afk | whatever |
| 19:32.35 | Kitan|Work | uber minor.. doesnt' actually affect the template at all |
| 19:32.43 | Hobinheim|afk | use either |
| 19:32.45 | Kitan|Work | sigh.. not trying to be picky.. just trying to help |
| 19:32.52 | Hobinheim|afk | cost is ugly. i'm going to break the wiki right now. brb |
| 19:33.00 | Hobinheim|afk | it's not you. i just don't like the template |
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| 19:34.36 | Kirkburn | Lol, I just noticed I hadn't put a favicon on a website that I run/ran for 5 years |
| 19:35.00 | Adys | Nice one kirk |
| 19:35.01 | Gryphen | ONOES! |
| 19:35.14 | Teomyr | omg, kirk, how dare you |
| 19:35.14 | Hobinheim|afk | are you going to say oh noes slowwiki.com? |
| 19:35.24 | Gryphen | ban kirk from the internet tubes |
| 19:35.29 | Hobinheim|afk | Kirkburn, is it your personal site? |
| 19:36.59 | Kirkburn | Not atm |
| 19:37.14 | Kirkburn | http://www.chig.org.uk |
| 19:37.23 | Gryphen | money instruction needs update |
| 19:37.24 | Kirkburn | Haven't run it personally for about 2 years |
| 19:37.34 | Hobinheim|afk | could a wiki ever charge its users... |
| 19:37.36 | Kirkburn | (due to Uni) |
| 19:37.48 | Gryphen | if the admin wanted to |
| 19:38.04 | Hobinheim|afk | i'm goon fantacizing again |
| 19:38.25 | Kitan|Work | Gryph what are you talking about with the money instruction? |
| 19:38.27 | Hobinheim|afk | just how useful would a wiki be that you would cough up 10$ to contribute to it |
| 19:38.45 | Kitan|Work | less vandals? :-P |
| 19:38.55 | Gryphen | template uses cost, but instruction shows c,s,g,sc... |
| 19:40.25 | Hobinheim|afk | ehh |
| 19:40.30 | Hobinheim|afk | vandal protecting is kinda... |
| 19:40.35 | Hobinheim|afk | it's not reall a selling point is it? |
| 19:40.45 | Kitan|Work | not realy :) |
| 19:40.48 | Kitan|Work | really |
| 19:40.49 | Hobinheim|afk | how often is someone really turned off from our site due to vandals |
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| 19:40.54 | Hobinheim|afk | that we don't already clean up |
| 19:41.02 | Kitan|Work | but it was about the only thing I could think of |
| 19:41.50 | Hobinheim|afk | hey who wants to see a youtube of something complete tasteless |
| 19:42.21 | Hobinheim|afk | http://youtube.com/watch?v=Q8bV9iNStEI |
| 19:42.30 | Hobinheim|afk | don't watch it if you have a conscience |
| 19:46.24 | Hobinheim|afk | it's "no female mods week" at SA |
| 19:46.31 | Hobinheim|afk | i don't think we even have any female admins... |
| 19:47.54 | equiraptor | Want one? |
| 19:49.59 | Hobinheim|afk | but it's shark week |
| 19:51.42 | Hobinheim|afk | i wonder if a goon were president, would we be in a better state of affairs |
| 19:51.48 | Hobinheim|afk | actually anyone not bush would do a pretty good job |
| 19:51.54 | Hobinheim|afk | my dog, or a plant even |
| 19:52.04 | Hobinheim|afk | plants don't wage wars |
| 19:52.08 | Hobinheim|afk | YOU CAN'T HUG WITH NUCLEAR ARMS |
| 19:52.11 | equiraptor | I wanna be president, but I'm not old enough yet. :'( |
| 19:57.27 | Kitan|Work | I'm almost old enough unfortunately |
| 19:57.30 | Kitan|Work | I'm almost old enough unfortunately |
| 19:59.52 | Kitan|Work | sigh |
| 20:00.06 | Kitan|Work | web browser based client makes me double post occasionally :-P |
| 20:00.43 | Kirkburn | Woah, Adobe Creative Suite 3 Master Collection ($2,499.00 USD) ... cheeaap! |
| 20:01.40 | Tuqui-tuqui | Ill take two! |
| 20:02.10 | Kitan|Work | that doesn't shock me much |
| 20:02.14 | Kitan|Work | freaking adobe |
| 20:03.14 | *** join/#wowwiki DuTempete (n=DuTempet@c-69-243-137-249.hsd1.in.comcast.net) |
| 20:03.38 | Adys | hey DT |
| 20:04.24 | DuTempete | howdy |
| 20:05.02 | DuTempete | what's happenin? |
| 20:06.00 | Kirkburn | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Creative_Suite |
| 20:06.22 | Kirkburn | Gee, I wonder how I'll obtain it ... |
| 20:06.52 | DuTempete | <3 student discounts!! |
| 20:07.25 | DuTempete | Mebbe next year, depending on what loans I'm getting, I'll buy the whole suite. |
| 20:07.43 | Kirkburn | DuTempete, Adobe Creative Suite 3 Master Collection ($2,499.00 USD) |
| 20:07.57 | Kirkburn | That'd be one hell of a loan and discount :) |
| 20:07.59 | DuTempete | only gonna cost me about 300USD |
| 20:08.17 | DuTempete | well wait, that may only be for one or two things |
| 20:08.29 | DuTempete | lemme look it up |
| 20:10.42 | Kirkburn | :) |
| 20:11.10 | Kirkburn | I want Dreamweaver, Fireworks ... possibly Photoshop and Illustratot |
| 20:11.14 | Kirkburn | *tor |
| 20:12.21 | DuTempete | grrr... I can't find the link to the university's CGW account |
| 20:13.03 | Kirkburn | Woah, 2 goals in two minutes in the footy, very nice ones at that |
| 20:13.05 | Tuqui-tuqui | Ive been using PSD7 at home since it came out :< |
| 20:13.12 | Tuqui-tuqui | havent updated since -.- |
| 20:13.43 | DuTempete | ok, here's a price... CS2 premium suite: photoshop, illustrator, indesign, golive, acrobat pro = $239 |
| 20:14.18 | DuTempete | I'm not big on dreamweaver, but I'd consider fireworks |
| 20:14.36 | DuTempete | the macromedia studio 8 is $150 |
| 20:14.50 | DuTempete | which include both of those, and freehand, and coldfusion |
| 20:21.31 | Kirkburn | But since Macromedia is defunct... :( |
| 20:22.03 | Kirkburn | Apparently I want Web Premium, $1,599 |
| 20:25.12 | DuTempete | I'm gonna go take a nap before the hubby gets home... I'll bbl |
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| 20:35.21 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Blackrock_Clan ok that clan template thing is ugly |
| 20:35.33 | Bagginsww | too much color = eyesore :p |
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| 20:38.12 | Bagginsww | lol |
| 20:40.53 | Teomyr | the CS3 premium suite sounds interesting |
| 20:41.26 | Teomyr | considering that i'm eligible for the educational version... but it's still a bit expensive for me :/ |
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| 20:52.22 | Skyfire | bagginsww: here now? :) |
| 20:55.59 | Bagginsww | yes |
| 20:56.10 | Skyfire | i found a retcon for you :) |
| 20:56.16 | Bagginsww | yes? |
| 20:56.17 | Skyfire | end of RotH |
| 20:56.27 | Skyfire | vs the war1 manual |
| 20:56.47 | Bagginsww | you mean how it implies that dark portal was opened all at one time rather than over course of months? |
| 20:57.02 | Skyfire | essentially |
| 20:57.10 | Skyfire | that and the fact they "rushed in" |
| 20:57.22 | Bagginsww | One of the more annoying aspects of what is essentially a great novel heh |
| 20:57.26 | Skyfire | rather than sending a patrol through, who returned "babbling" of strangeness |
| 20:57.33 | Bagginsww | that and her lack of Necromancers |
| 20:57.38 | Bagginsww | *Necrolytes |
| 20:57.51 | Skyfire | indeed |
| 20:58.13 | Bagginsww | as a side note it ignores a big aspect brought up in the game |
| 20:58.15 | Bagginsww | BC |
| 20:58.21 | Bagginsww | about the Arakkoa and the war |
| 20:58.29 | Skyfire | http://www.wowwiki.com/The_Destiny_of_the_Orcish_Hordes#The_Dark_Portal |
| 20:59.05 | Bagginsww | as a side note HPG version of the events were closer to the WC1 version |
| 20:59.07 | Skyfire | in fact, i'd say roth pretty much killed the war1 manual :) |
| 20:59.12 | Skyfire | lol! |
| 20:59.16 | Bagginsww | HPG was mix of both |
| 20:59.39 | Skyfire | ooo |
| 20:59.57 | Skyfire | it is said somewhere that garona has also been retconned? lol |
| 20:59.57 | Bagginsww | HPG had alot more on necrolyte's involvement |
| 21:00.06 | Skyfire | "The fact that I am of both Orc and Human lineage" |
| 21:00.16 | Bagginsww | HPG discusses that |
| 21:00.35 | Bagginsww | The Warcraft RPG Horde Player's Guide makes reference to Garona being a half-orc (its definition of a "half-orc" is the offspring of an orc and a human). The book also clarifies that a hybrid of orc and draenei is called a half-draenei, and implies that they have physical features from both orcs and draenei. Later in the book, though, it mentions that Garona's parentage is a mystery, and that she is not half-draenei. The b |
| 21:00.35 | Bagginsww | ook points out that early on people had thought her to be half-human, however her age would make it seem impossible for a human and orc to have produced her, as she was already a young woman at the time.HPG 167 |
| 21:01.11 | Bagginsww | so basically Garona's own writings are "in-universe" text |
| 21:01.21 | Bagginsww | but people are starting to question her credibulity |
| 21:01.32 | Skyfire | and then it says blackhand rose up after the portal was opened, not before |
| 21:01.37 | Adys | ??? when did infobot come online |
| 21:01.51 | Bagginsww | ya but skyfire, black hand stuff was moved back in War2 man |
| 21:01.56 | Skyfire | blgh |
| 21:02.13 | Bagginsww | all the writers tell slightly different takes :p |
| 21:02.14 | Skyfire | i remember more from war1 then 2 |
| 21:02.16 | Skyfire | lol |
| 21:02.35 | Bagginsww | imo novel suffers from compressed time in places |
| 21:02.54 | Bagginsww | literary device to short time between scenes |
| 21:03.02 | Bagginsww | to move to the important factors |
| 21:03.23 | Skyfire | diefinitely |
| 21:03.27 | Bagginsww | Novel is also kind of from Thrall's POV too |
| 21:03.32 | Skyfire | true |
| 21:03.55 | Kirkburn | WOAH at that clan template |
| 21:04.01 | Bagginsww | its fugly, :p |
| 21:04.11 | Adys | where kirk? |
| 21:04.11 | Skyfire | the jump from 3 months into the war to 1 year into the war was too large for me personally; could've been used to develop durotan further |
| 21:04.19 | Skyfire | and yes, that template is ugly |
| 21:04.21 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Orc_Clans |
| 21:04.22 | Skyfire | http://www.wowwiki.com/Shadowmoon_Clan |
| 21:04.30 | Bagginsww | ya skyfire, actually I think it should have been a duology |
| 21:04.31 | Kirkburn | Someone get Varg on here for once :P |
| 21:04.53 | Kirkburn | Someone want to fix it up? |
| 21:05.10 | Kirkburn | I'd say it just needs to be more consisteny |
| 21:05.12 | Kirkburn | *t |
| 21:05.25 | Kirkburn | Same widths, etc |
| 21:05.44 | Bagginsww | although my favorite theory for garona? I like the novel's idea of ageing spell |
| 21:05.45 | Adys | give the poor guy a break, hes nearly at 50 000 edits now :P |
| 21:05.50 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 21:05.55 | Skyfire | lol |
| 21:05.59 | Bagginsww | quality vs. quantity |
| 21:06.05 | Skyfire | pft |
| 21:06.10 | Hobinheim|afk | ugh |
| 21:06.16 | Hobinheim|afk | please tell me that orc clan template isn't in use |
| 21:06.20 | Skyfire | it is |
| 21:06.21 | Bagginsww | it is |
| 21:06.24 | Skyfire | see shadowmoon clan link |
| 21:06.25 | Skyfire | :] |
| 21:06.27 | Hobinheim|afk | and there it is.... |
| 21:06.28 | Hobinheim|afk | =( |
| 21:06.30 | Bagginsww | I was blinded today when I first saw it :p |
| 21:06.37 | Bagginsww | I'ms still seeing spots |
| 21:06.53 | Hobinheim|afk | i'm gonna have to take a big DISAGREE on that one |
| 21:07.16 | Kirkburn | 2.1 PTR timing: "we're hoping by tomorrow or early next week" - Tigole |
| 21:07.22 | Hobinheim|afk | oh well at least he admitted an open invite to improve =) |
| 21:07.42 | Bagginsww | I'd say copy the dwarven clan version |
| 21:07.43 | Hobinheim|afk | are you hawking the us forums or do they cross post to the eu forums? |
| 21:07.51 | Hobinheim|afk | Bagginsww, link? |
| 21:07.52 | Bagginsww | it has very little color, looks clean |
| 21:08.00 | Hobinheim|afk | n/m |
| 21:08.04 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Ironforge_Clan |
| 21:08.07 | Skyfire | btw, go comment on http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#Prospects_for_new_abilities_and_talents_boilerplate ^^ |
| 21:08.12 | Hobinheim|afk | personally, i think people are going a little overboard with these navbars |
| 21:08.19 | Adys | Kirkburn: knowing blizz its just what was planned at first :P |
| 21:08.23 | Bagginsww | well ya, I agree who needs nav bars? |
| 21:08.25 | Hobinheim|afk | even though i started the whole plague... |
| 21:08.28 | Adys | two weeks! |
| 21:08.47 | Bagginsww | Lawl |
| 21:08.56 | Teomyr | wtb dropdown menus |
| 21:09.01 | Adys | AGREED! |
| 21:09.08 | Hobinheim|afk | i don't like the infobox ability templates |
| 21:09.10 | Bagginsww | actually I think nav boxes should be hidden somehow, and push something to pop the up |
| 21:09.19 | Bagginsww | or ability to hide them |
| 21:09.20 | Hobinheim|afk | we really need to crack down on styles... =( |
| 21:09.29 | Skyfire | they can do that on wikipedia with navboxes... |
| 21:09.35 | Skyfire | but that requires parser functions ;( |
| 21:09.42 | Bagginsww | :( |
| 21:10.14 | Adys | no |
| 21:10.20 | Adys | it just requires javascript use |
| 21:10.37 | Hobinheim|afk | but how does a mere mortal get javascript to show up on a wiki template? |
| 21:10.41 | Skyfire | lol |
| 21:10.50 | Adys | Hobinheim|afk: can you stop the editing of Authors on templates pls |
| 21:11.05 | Hobinheim|afk | :( |
| 21:11.08 | Bagginsww | So was reading an article in Gameinformer about three upcoming MMOs they think have a chance of dethroning WoW :p |
| 21:11.18 | Adys | while i do agree its not been decided anywhere |
| 21:11.21 | Hobinheim|afk | nothing will dethrone wow |
| 21:11.23 | Skyfire | darkfall... and? |
| 21:11.25 | Bagginsww | LOTR, Warhammer, and Conan |
| 21:11.27 | Hobinheim|afk | ever. |
| 21:11.31 | Skyfire | ack |
| 21:11.41 | Adys | conan wont |
| 21:11.41 | Bagginsww | well their claim is all three are like WoW but improve many things |
| 21:11.53 | Adys | WHO and LotRO will |
| 21:11.56 | Skyfire | that won't kill wow; wow might just shape up... |
| 21:12.01 | Bagginsww | well I have no interest in Conan |
| 21:12.08 | Bagginsww | WoW will have to evolve |
| 21:12.08 | Hobinheim|afk | Skyfire, that's what i see happening |
| 21:12.20 | Skyfire | besides, too much competition and that frays their ability to bring wow down |
| 21:12.23 | Skyfire | :/ |
| 21:12.23 | Bagginsww | One thing I like about LOTR is there is no punishment fo rdeath |
| 21:12.29 | Skyfire | pft |
| 21:12.33 | Skyfire | carebear |
| 21:12.35 | Hobinheim|afk | what i don't understand that never evolved since TBC, the loot tables for the starting zones |
| 21:12.38 | Bagginsww | but LOTR will not take me away from WoW |
| 21:12.41 | Hobinheim|afk | money is plentiful in eversong |
| 21:12.45 | Hobinheim|afk | but in durotar you're starving |
| 21:12.47 | Bagginsww | I'm playing them joinlty |
| 21:13.28 | Bagginsww | well skyfire actually LOTR rewards you for not dying if you can stay alive all the way to 20 |
| 21:13.32 | Bagginsww | you get 5 special titles |
| 21:13.49 | Skyfire | oooo |
| 21:13.51 | Bagginsww | after that dieing doesn't matter, :) |
| 21:13.55 | Skyfire | reward vs penalty |
| 21:14.02 | Bagginsww | there is some penality |
| 21:14.06 | Skyfire | now there's a basic human psychological difference... |
| 21:14.09 | Bagginsww | but it doesn't involve runing back to your body |
| 21:14.11 | Skyfire | :o |
| 21:14.13 | Bagginsww | you get autospawned |
| 21:14.17 | Skyfire | ew |
| 21:14.23 | Bagginsww | back at a ritual circle |
| 21:14.36 | Bagginsww | and have "dread" on you for some time, and armor loss |
| 21:14.52 | Bagginsww | so no having to run back to your body |
| 21:15.06 | Bagginsww | well Im ean it makes things quicker |
| 21:15.36 | Bagginsww | if you die in an instance you are respawned at hte start of the instance |
| 21:16.00 | Bagginsww | dread doesn't stop you from being able to fight, although it lowers your armor, and you take damage faster |
| 21:16.20 | Bagginsww | but you can counteract it with the right equipment |
| 21:16.59 | Bagginsww | but ya Skyfire I love the title rewards |
| 21:17.12 | Bagginsww | I rerolled my hobbit 3 times in order to get them :p |
| 21:17.21 | Hobinheim|afk | argg!!! |
| 21:17.24 | Bagginsww | cause I made a mistake LOL |
| 21:17.32 | Bagginsww | or someone else got me killed heh heh |
| 21:17.44 | Bagginsww | well hobin that's the reason why the rewards only go to levle 20 |
| 21:17.45 | Skyfire | lol |
| 21:17.49 | Bagginsww | for that those titles |
| 21:17.54 | Bagginsww | *that kind of title |
| 21:17.59 | Hobinheim|afk | i'm not even talking about the game |
| 21:18.03 | Bagginsww | its not that hard to level first 20 levels |
| 21:18.07 | Bagginsww | oh |
| 21:18.16 | Bagginsww | what was argg for? |
| 21:18.55 | Bagginsww | but ya, the reason why LOTR won't dethrone me from WoW is because of the preorder lifetime membership :). |
| 21:19.23 | Bagginsww | I can play LOTR when I want, and don't have to worry about paying for both, each year |
| 21:20.17 | Bagginsww | As for warhammer, not interested, but I can see where WoW got its artstyle inspiration |
| 21:24.16 | Skyfire | so where did kaso go? |
| 21:27.32 | Bagginsww | skyfire the auto-respawn wouldn't work in wow though, due to the PVP nature of the game. You'd have horde camping instance entrances just to force people to respawn at graveyards, LOL |
| 21:28.00 | Skyfire | eh |
| 21:28.40 | Bagginsww | well think of locations where you have to cross a very long distance to get from graveyard to instance |
| 21:29.15 | Bagginsww | now in LOTR if you were killed you get respawned at graveyard basically, in your physical form |
| 21:29.29 | Bagginsww | and have to run back to where you once were |
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| 21:29.41 | Bagginsww | think of death in tempest keep basically |
| 21:30.10 | Bagginsww | well if WoW did it that way, horde could interfere and keep you from ever reaching the instance LOL |
| 21:30.15 | Bagginsww | or alliance |
| 21:30.22 | Bagginsww | depending on who you are you playing |
| 21:30.54 | Bagginsww | because every time they killed you, you'd be reset back at the graveyard :p |
| 21:31.04 | Bagginsww | hell they could even camp the graveyard LOL |
| 21:31.23 | Bagginsww | so ya it just wouldn't work in a PVP oriented game |
| 21:33.47 | Kirkburn | Okay, heads up, we have some weird vandals coming |
| 21:33.47 | Skyfire | ugh |
| 21:33.51 | Skyfire | oh boy |
| 21:33.55 | Kirkburn | Random collections of letter |
| 21:33.56 | Kirkburn | s |
| 21:34.02 | Kirkburn | Removing content from talk pages |
| 21:34.30 | Skyfire | they aren't happening now... are they? |
| 21:34.40 | Kirkburn | Single edits, too. Examples - http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Fansites http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Dreadsteed |
| 21:34.45 | Kirkburn | Dunno, I picked them up from my watchlist |
| 21:34.51 | Skyfire | ah |
| 21:34.54 | Skyfire | i have seen those... |
| 21:35.24 | Kirkburn | Some remove the character "+" |
| 21:35.28 | Kirkburn | Some just remove loads |
| 21:37.10 | *** join/#wowwiki Skosiris (n=sdgdsg@modemcable244.155-201-24.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 21:37.15 | Kirkburn | Appears to be some kind of bot |
| 21:37.17 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+v Skosiris] by ChanServ |
| 21:37.31 | Skyfire | found one |
| 21:37.33 | Skyfire | lol |
| 21:37.42 | Kirkburn | Adys, Bagginsww, Gryphen, Hobinheim|afk, heads up |
| 21:37.43 | Skyfire | i think it is a bot |
| 21:37.55 | Adys | in a sec |
| 21:37.57 | Gryphen | ya, saw one the other day |
| 21:38.10 | Bagginsww | so is there anyway to alter the "ban" system so that it would automatically fill text into the blocked user list? |
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| 21:38.29 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+o Tekkub] by ChanServ |
| 21:38.32 | Kirkburn | Bagginsww, not really |
| 21:38.41 | Kirkburn | sancus or vlad_ also a heads up for you |
| 21:38.45 | Bagginsww | too bad |
| 21:39.09 | Bagginsww | and I see kirkburn :p lots of people with random lettered names :p |
| 21:40.36 | Skyfire | looks like you got all the ones within 500 edits... |
| 21:40.45 | Kirkburn | Woah, there's loads |
| 21:40.46 | Skyfire | is there a way to go further? |
| 21:41.07 | Gryphen | are you banning as well kirk? |
| 21:41.12 | Kirkburn | Not atm |
| 21:41.22 | Skyfire | it might be wise just to ban one |
| 21:41.25 | Skyfire | if it is a bot... |
| 21:41.32 | Bagginsww | I think its a bot |
| 21:41.36 | Kirkburn | Can do after they're all reverted, since they're be at the top of the RC |
| 21:41.42 | Kirkburn | Unless someone wants to start now |
| 21:41.53 | Adys | uhm |
| 21:42.01 | Adys | what the hell is that kind of vandalism :p |
| 21:42.06 | Skyfire | the strange kind :/ |
| 21:42.09 | Adys | gryphen and i spotted one the other day indeed |
| 21:42.47 | *** join/#wowwiki nadelka (n=chatzill@209.34.194.226) |
| 21:43.20 | Skyfire | all of them ave 6 alphanumeric names... |
| 21:43.25 | nadelka | anyone here mess with the lua scripting for mods? |
| 21:43.50 | Skyfire | character* |
| 21:44.03 | Kirkburn | It's been going on for a while |
| 21:45.01 | nadelka | just wanted to know if writing to a file from a wow mod is a nono |
| 21:46.23 | Kirkburn | From the topic "UI questions? Join #wowi-lounge" |
| 21:48.06 | Kirkburn | Gryphen, I think I'm done on my end |
| 21:48.08 | Tekkub | Kirky |
| 21:48.17 | nadelka | thanks kirk |
| 21:48.19 | Tekkub | another reason to update the MW on the server |
| 21:48.21 | Tekkub | "* (bug 2001) Tables with class="sortable" can now be dynamically sorted via |
| 21:48.22 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:48.27 | Tekkub | for elinks :) |
| 21:49.22 | Bagginsww | ran into some strange vandalism in wikipedia today, someone had removed all sections relating to Splinter Cell: Essentials... |
| 21:49.33 | Kirkburn | I'm wrong, still more to get |
| 21:51.51 | Skyfire | Talk: and User: are fine |
| 21:52.43 | Gryphen | think im done |
| 21:52.45 | Gryphen | kirk |
| 21:52.45 | Kirkburn | Started almost exactly 48 hours ago |
| 21:53.07 | Gryphen | oh i see you got some more in |
| 21:53.25 | Skosiris | hey |
| 21:53.38 | Skyfire | hihi |
| 21:53.47 | Skosiris | you guys should definitely find a way to "force" vlad/sancus to proceed with the update of MW |
| 21:54.07 | Kirkburn | It wouldn't help with these vandals, probably :/ |
| 21:54.17 | Kirkburn | Well, this vandal |
| 21:54.58 | Tekkub | depends on the vandal |
| 21:55.10 | Tekkub | there were upgrades to autoblock so it'd work better |
| 21:55.16 | Skyfire | eh |
| 21:55.30 | Kirkburn | vlad_, poke for when you're not busy |
| 21:55.34 | Skyfire | unless he's programmed the bot to change proxies every time, a simple ban should work |
| 21:56.24 | Skosiris | well, I say this because all lot of people here seem to want that upgrade |
| 21:56.33 | Skosiris | but the 2 people that could do it just do nothing |
| 21:56.37 | Skosiris | this is lame. |
| 21:56.39 | Kirkburn | I think that we can ignore bots on the Known Vandals list |
| 21:56.46 | Skyfire | same |
| 21:56.47 | Gryphen | ya |
| 21:56.51 | Skyfire | there is one actually listed there though |
| 21:56.53 | Skyfire | lol |
| 21:56.56 | Kirkburn | They're busy, okay |
| 21:57.33 | Tekkub | I understand busy Kirk, we're all busy |
| 21:57.45 | Tekkub | but they border on total lack of interest |
| 21:58.00 | Kirkburn | Can we not get into this again? We've done it enough :) |
| 21:58.18 | Tekkub | I didn't start it :) |
| 21:58.30 | Skosiris | hehe, sorry |
| 21:58.33 | Tekkub | and there's only one real way to make it go away ^^ |
| 21:59.05 | Skosiris | maybe he could just resign and let Kirk become the new Wowwiki owner :) |
| 21:59.46 | Teomyr | you could also host the wiki for us, sko :P |
| 21:59.54 | Skyfire | lol |
| 22:00.01 | Skyfire | i don't think we'd have server issues then... |
| 22:00.10 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:00.41 | Kirkburn | So anyway |
| 22:01.12 | Kirkburn | Remember that the wiki is very high load, it's not a cheap job |
| 22:01.43 | winkiller | how much traffic is it, btw? |
| 22:01.43 | winkiller | and what machine? |
| 22:03.08 | Gryphen | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Sandwichman2448 |
| 22:03.15 | Skyfire | yes, his sig is evil |
| 22:03.16 | Gryphen | i like his profile hehe |
| 22:03.49 | Kirkburn | I forget the exact specs, but it's reaonable current high-end PC level |
| 22:04.03 | Kirkburn | Traffic - well, we're 2,200th on the Alexa rankings |
| 22:04.37 | Kirkburn | Btw, I was wrong about 48 hours, it's been going on longer than that |
| 22:05.08 | winkiller | sorry, but that's like no info at all :P |
| 22:05.43 | Gryphen | i dont know a lot of operators who would give the info |
| 22:08.15 | winkiller | hm, I have never ever met one who didn't |
| 22:08.28 | winkiller | esp as it's nonprofit |
| 22:08.45 | winkiller | not exactly OSS, but nonprofit |
| 22:08.50 | Kirkburn | From what I do remember, it has 4 GB RAM |
| 22:09.39 | Kirkburn | Yup, that's about it. |
| 22:09.46 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#Bot_edits_warning.21 |
| 22:09.50 | winkiller | hehe :) |
| 22:09.54 | winkiller | not bad at least |
| 22:12.52 | winkiller | bah, nowhere you get decent greens for lvl10-12 chars to levelup |
| 22:13.32 | Skyfire | not rly |
| 22:23.43 | Kirkburn | Any Apple fans around? :P |
| 22:24.31 | Gryphen | NO |
| 22:25.36 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 22:25.36 | Kirkburn | Leopard is delayed to October |
| 22:25.36 | *** part/#wowwiki Punkie` (n=~@host86-130-2-120.range86-130.btcentralplus.com) |
| 22:25.36 | Kirkburn | http://forums.wincustomize.com/?AID=150020 |
| 22:27.04 | Adys | Kirk, Im an apple fan! |
| 22:27.17 | Adys | Worked my first 5 years on a man |
| 22:27.52 | Kirkburn | You ... worked ... your first 5 years ... on a ... man. |
| 22:27.55 | Kirkburn | Er |
| 22:28.00 | Kirkburn | What? |
| 22:28.49 | Kirkburn | Either you were a highly advanced robotics expert at a VERY early age, or you didn't mean what you said :P |
| 22:32.07 | Adys | LOL |
| 22:32.09 | Adys | On a mac. |
| 22:33.29 | Kirkburn | heh, that was far too boring |
| 22:33.56 | Kirkburn | The whole "we're gonna release it in Spring, honest", just got silly, when Spring became "June" |
| 22:34.22 | cladhaire | at least they're not, what, four years late? |
| 22:34.38 | Kirkburn | 3 :P |
| 22:34.45 | Kirkburn | Well, 2 at a stretch |
| 22:34.46 | cladhaire | oh my bad ;-) |
| 22:35.59 | Kirkburn | At least MS have heard of backwards compatability =) |
| 22:36.08 | dotted | Kirkburn they have? |
| 22:36.19 | dotted | what about DX10? |
| 22:36.33 | Kirkburn | Starcraft, WC3 and all them are soon to be 10.3.9 and above |
| 22:37.03 | Kirkburn | I don't recall it being neccessary to upgrade an OS to update an application |
| 22:37.28 | Kirkburn | DX10 needs Vista stuff, the games can still use DX9 |
| 22:37.51 | Kirkburn | Crysis is a good example (Halo is just being naughty) |
| 22:38.45 | dotted | DX10 is iverrated imo |
| 22:38.52 | dotted | *overrated |
| 22:40.05 | Hobinheim|afk | is it about money |
| 22:40.10 | Hobinheim|afk | cuz i'll pony up the bill |
| 22:40.14 | Hobinheim|afk | then we can do it hob dictator style |
| 22:41.07 | dotted | i mean look at the AoC dx9 vs DX10, you would think they are on MS pay list |
| 22:41.27 | Adys | lol |
| 22:41.34 | Adys | tauren druid named Cowbearcat |
| 22:41.46 | Zicon | Amazingly original. |
| 22:41.53 | Adys | hehe |
| 22:41.59 | Adys | my preferred one was this priest |
| 22:42.02 | Adys | "Healuinasec" |
| 22:42.22 | Adys | "Istompugood has defeated Healuinasec in a duel" |
| 22:42.41 | Hobinheim|sleepy | or "ihealyou" warrior class |
| 22:44.24 | Teomyr | i found the name "doommage" pretty funny :P |
| 22:45.12 | Kirkburn | dotted, it's early days for DX10, videos won't do it justice, and neither will beta shots |
| 22:45.34 | dotted | Damage is nice aswell ;) |
| 22:46.51 | dotted | Kirkburn i doubt there will be much difference between dx9 and dx10 unless the devs like in AoC deliberately makes the dx9 client worse looking |
| 22:47.12 | Kirkburn | DX9 looks great, I won't deny that, but DX10 pushes it a lot further |
| 22:47.12 | Kirkburn | That's just silly FUD |
| 22:47.45 | Kirkburn | When DX10 becomes more popular, then it'll get the hours of development that'll push it way beyond DX9 |
| 22:47.51 | Kirkburn | Atm, why bother? |
| 22:48.24 | Kirkburn | Think how long DX9 was around until Doom 3 and HL2 came along |
| 22:49.16 | Kirkburn | Oh, and DX10 is a complete rewrite and restructure |
| 22:50.00 | dotted | Think how long DX9 was around until Doom 3 <- dude |
| 22:50.01 | dotted | :p |
| 22:50.38 | foxlit | DX9 is a pretty broad term |
| 22:51.23 | dotted | foxlit lets say D3D9 then ;) |
| 22:51.36 | foxlit | Not really referring to the sub-components |
| 22:52.01 | foxlit | 9.0c has only been out for.. two years :) |
| 22:52.34 | dotted | Kirkburn http://pc.boomtown.net/da_dk/articles/art.view.php?id=70387 i dont believe they couldnt make the gfx look the same tbh |
| 22:53.26 | Kirkburn | Fine, if you want to believe that |
| 22:53.40 | Hobinheim|sleepy | there should be a warcraft, IN SPAAACE |
| 22:53.46 | Kirkburn | You just said " i doubt there will be much difference between dx9 and dx10 unless the devs like in AoC deliberately makes the dx9 client worse looking" |
| 22:53.58 | Kirkburn | So your previous argument is COMPLETELY destroyed |
| 22:54.21 | Kirkburn | Unless you subscribe to conspiracy stories, of course :) |
| 22:55.06 | dotted | im tired so i have to ask how so? |
| 22:55.41 | Kirkburn | You just said that you doubt they will be much difference - from those screenshots there evidently is |
| 22:56.00 | Kirkburn | So we move to the second part where you suggest they deliberately make it look worse |
| 22:56.10 | dotted | yes |
| 22:56.32 | Kirkburn | Why would you mnake your game look worse? |
| 22:57.06 | Kirkburn | It's hardly good press |
| 23:00.30 | Kirkburn | Sorry if I'm being bitchy tonight :) |
| 23:01.02 | dotted | DirectX 10 has also dropped support for hardware accelerated audio, opting instead to render sound in software on the CPU. <- WTF? |
| 23:01.19 | Teomyr | correct, dotted |
| 23:01.26 | Teomyr | things like EAX won't work with directx 10 |
| 23:01.48 | Kirkburn | Wow, the AoC beta is looking huge |
| 23:02.04 | Kirkburn | dotted, standards |
| 23:02.46 | Kirkburn | The standards for DX10 are deliberately strict, so as to make it easier for developer |
| 23:02.47 | Kirkburn | s |
| 23:03.20 | Kirkburn | I don't know the exact reasoning for that change, but I would imagine it's a large part of it. |
| 23:03.43 | Kirkburn | It's especially true for DX10 gfx cards, which /have/ to adhere to the spec |
| 23:03.45 | dotted | its stupid as hell thats what it is |
| 23:04.05 | Kirkburn | Developers shouldn't have to support thousands of different setups |
| 23:04.24 | Kirkburn | They should be able to code for one |
| 23:04.37 | dotted | yeah directx |
| 23:05.08 | Kirkburn | And this is bad how? |
| 23:06.08 | Kirkburn | It doesn't exclude OpenGL |
| 23:06.10 | dotted | why doesnt directx provide them with the tool to have hw sound, just like direct3d just for sounds (XACT) |
| 23:07.22 | dotted | sounds to me like blizz have infected MS with laziness :p |
| 23:07.54 | Kirkburn | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XACT |
| 23:08.44 | dotted | the new directsound |
| 23:08.51 | Kirkburn | I don't know, I'm sure Creative would have complained more if it was that bad |
| 23:09.04 | Kirkburn | I'd like to know too :) |
| 23:09.58 | dotted | creative have openal, alot of games uses that now |
| 23:10.06 | Kirkburn | But I do know that most developers are really excited by DX10 |
| 23:11.13 | dotted | sure they are, and there are improvements in dx10, but i just done believe the aoc screens |
| 23:11.51 | dotted | *dont |
| 23:16.26 | dotted | nn |
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