| 00:00.25 | DuGabarit | Kirk and all the rest of the people even WoW players clal wierd would be at the WoWTGC table. |
| 00:01.07 | Kirkburn | Where would one hold the con? |
| 00:01.19 | DuGabarit | Oh, and we musn't forget about the WoWRPG... wait... what RPG? |
| 00:01.25 | DuGabarit | Chicago. |
| 00:02.13 | MatthewS | sounds cold. the bay area is warm |
| 00:02.26 | DuGabarit | We'd have it in the summer, DUH! |
| 00:02.44 | DuGabarit | We could go to Brookfield Zoo and classify all the animals by ability. |
| 00:03.00 | DuGabarit | Wait, no, Lincoln Park, that one's free. =P |
| 00:03.18 | Kirkburn | I live in the UK, btw |
| 00:03.26 | Gryphen | Lebanon, Kansas |
| 00:03.29 | DuGabarit | You, Hunter... Beast Mastery on the Giraffe. |
| 00:03.41 | Adys | hehe admin for a day |
| 00:03.44 | Adys | i had this idea actually |
| 00:03.54 | MatthewS | i think someone is taken with Chicago right now. |
| 00:03.54 | Kirkburn | Is there a Kansas in Lebanon? |
| 00:03.55 | DuGabarit | I'm from Chicago. =P |
| 00:04.05 | Gryphen | City, State ;) |
| 00:04.10 | Teomyr | surprise, surprise! |
| 00:04.10 | Adys | to div up some pictures of the delete, unprotect, etc tabs on the main page |
| 00:04.10 | DuGabarit | haha Kirk |
| 00:04.29 | MatthewS | so NYC for a mid-point? |
| 00:04.39 | Kirkburn | Silly Americans, always stealing other people's placenames |
| 00:04.40 | DuGabarit | I could use an excuse to go to NYC |
| 00:04.43 | Gryphen | Lebanon, Kansas center of the world |
| 00:04.50 | DuGabarit | riiiiiight... |
| 00:04.51 | Gryphen | ;) |
| 00:05.13 | DuGabarit | I could use an excuse to go to London, too... |
| 00:05.26 | Kirkburn | So we're agreed then, London it is :P |
| 00:05.31 | DuGabarit | hehe |
| 00:05.51 | Kirkburn | If we did it based on an average admin location, I wonder |
| 00:05.59 | DuGabarit | Paris! I want to be snickered at by meanie parisians who don't like my accent! |
| 00:05.59 | Gryphen | middle of the ocean |
| 00:06.00 | Kirkburn | We'd probably end up just off the coast of the US |
| 00:06.12 | DuGabarit | Titanic crash site. |
| 00:06.36 | DuGabarit | We could rent a boat and hop an iceburg. |
| 00:06.41 | Kirkburn | zomg, DuGabarit proved it! We sunk the Titanic! |
| 00:06.45 | MatthewS | iceland! |
| 00:06.46 | DuGabarit | lol |
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| 00:07.08 | Gryphen | well for you and me kirk it would be off the south coast of greenland |
| 00:07.09 | DuGabarit | haha |
| 00:07.47 | Kirkburn | Gryphen, just how far north are you?! |
| 00:08.01 | Kirkburn | Do you live with Father Christmas or something? |
| 00:08.02 | Gryphen | actually in greenland |
| 00:08.13 | Gryphen | washington state |
| 00:08.36 | DuGabarit | washington state.... in greenland? |
| 00:08.43 | Kirkburn | It moved, didn't you hear? |
| 00:08.53 | DuGabarit | like Lebanon? |
| 00:09.04 | Kirkburn | Yeah, they realised kansas was too boring |
| 00:09.18 | DuGabarit | Silly dustbowl... |
| 00:09.20 | Kirkburn | Needed a bit of spicing up, so they moved it |
| 00:09.40 | Kirkburn | Unfortunately, they forgot Kansas was somewhat larger than Lebanon |
| 00:09.44 | DuGabarit | Shit, I'd get the hell outta Kansas too. Dorothy had a good thing going in Oz. |
| 00:10.05 | Gryphen | halfway would be Baffin Island to london |
| 00:10.06 | Gryphen | heh |
| 00:10.12 | Kirkburn | Ah, Oz. Land of the emerald kangaroos. |
| 00:10.23 | DuGabarit | Skippy! |
| 00:10.48 | Kirkburn | Well, he was until they moved Oz to India |
| 00:11.08 | DuGabarit | Shit... did they move the rabbit hole, too? |
| 00:11.40 | DuGabarit | Skipinder... *giggle* |
| 00:12.06 | DuGabarit | took me a minute on that one. |
| 00:12.13 | Kirkburn | Despite the punjabi kangaroo's best efforts, the rabbit died en route |
| 00:12.45 | Kirkburn | They buried his hole in greenland. |
| 00:13.02 | DuGabarit | That's what he gets for being late. |
| 00:13.18 | Kirkburn | Damn right |
| 00:13.25 | Kirkburn | So, er, Gryphen ... there's a place called Greenland in Washington State |
| 00:13.26 | Kirkburn | ? |
| 00:13.30 | Gryphen | no |
| 00:13.31 | MatthewS | the surrealism is beginning to hurt. |
| 00:13.42 | DuGabarit | lol my tummy is sore... |
| 00:13.47 | Dali | MatthewS, Haha! Fooled you all! |
| 00:13.48 | Teomyr | lol |
| 00:13.49 | Gryphen | the world isnt flat, the mid point between wash state and london is greenland |
| 00:13.57 | Gryphen | by shortest route |
| 00:14.10 | Dali | A very HOT route, surely |
| 00:14.30 | Dali | With lots of burny OMGMAGMA!AAAARRRRGGHHH!!WHYY!?! no? |
| 00:14.52 | SkipinderDuGabar | awww... it truncated it :( |
| 00:15.01 | Kirkburn | aww |
| 00:15.11 | DuGabarit | lame IRC |
| 00:15.20 | Teomyr | sux |
| 00:15.24 | Kirkburn | Yeah, that's right, blame IRC |
| 00:15.38 | Gryphen | known vandals is backing up if anyone has the time to investigate |
| 00:15.48 | DuGabarit | Well I'm not going to blame Skipinder. |
| 00:15.51 | Kirkburn | Did someone leave it in reverse? |
| 00:16.04 | Kirkburn | Gryphen, tell me you took it out of gear first? |
| 00:16.05 | DuGabarit | The coyote scared it. |
| 00:16.21 | Kirkburn | This is me sober |
| 00:16.39 | Kirkburn | Thish ish meeeee dwununknk |
| 00:17.00 | Kirkburn | Waiit. |
| 00:17.02 | Teomyr | judging from the conversation that is going on here, you're all drunk |
| 00:17.14 | DuGabarit | Ticket: Gryphen hacked my [Kirkburn's Alcohol]!!! |
| 00:17.31 | Kirkburn | Working as intended. |
| 00:17.40 | DuGabarit | Damn you Blizz! |
| 00:17.42 | Teomyr | Well... Did you try to delete WDB and WTF first? Did that solve the problem? |
| 00:18.02 | Kirkburn | No, no shaking your fist won't help. Try hitting the PC. |
| 00:18.04 | Teomyr | Also make sure to try disabling your interface modifications. |
| 00:18.29 | DuGabarit | Noooo... if I hit my PC I wont be able to dump Blizz for... hell... what am I going to dump Blizz for? |
| 00:18.36 | DuGabarit | Sony sucks... |
| 00:18.49 | DuGabarit | nobody else is even slightly worth a shit. |
| 00:18.50 | Kirkburn | Teomyr, silly, she should unplug the mouse, type CHEESEY three times whilst jumping through a car door and recite the bible backwards. |
| 00:19.04 | Teomyr | oh my, you're right |
| 00:19.08 | Teomyr | how could i forget that |
| 00:19.15 | Kirkburn | What an idiot. |
| 00:19.19 | Teomyr | indeed |
| 00:19.26 | DuGabarit | If you recite the bible backwards, does it sound like "Satan is coming for you!" |
| 00:19.50 | Kirkburn | Nah, it said "Satan is coming for Gryphen!" |
| 00:20.02 | Kirkburn | Alcohol is the devil's drink. |
| 00:20.06 | Kirkburn | He shouldn't have stolen it. |
| 00:20.09 | DuGabarit | That's what he gets for hacking my [Kirkburn's Alcohol]. |
| 00:20.19 | Kirkburn | See, SEEEEEE |
| 00:21.48 | Kirkburn | Ow. |
| 00:22.04 | Kirkburn | It's only a flesh wound! |
| 00:22.16 | DuGabarit | Don't worry, I vendored all your gear, and sold the gold. You're now naked, and I'm rich. |
| 00:22.40 | Teomyr | I'M IN UR AKOUNT, SHARDIN' UR PURPLZ |
| 00:22.49 | DuGabarit | hehe |
| 00:23.26 | Kirkburn | You just wanted me naked, didn't you |
| 00:26.17 | Adys | boring |
| 00:26.31 | Kirkburn | Agincourt! |
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| 00:27.12 | Kirkburn | So totally not changing the subject or anything, http://www.funnyanimalvideos.com/mouse-videos/mice-playing-in-a-wheel/ |
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| 00:29.38 | MatthewS | our bits evaporated |
| 00:29.38 | DuGabarit | I'm scavenging for food. |
| 00:29.54 | DuGabarit | Skipinder wants too many clovers for the rabbit's carcass. |
| 00:30.15 | Kirkburn | Skipinder's a greedy bastard, eh |
| 00:30.35 | Kirkburn | Watch me: http://www.funnyanimalvideos.com/snake-videos/boy-rides-his-pet-python/ |
| 00:30.37 | DuGabarit | He said I'm fishing for pancakes. |
| 00:30.45 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 00:30.51 | DuGabarit | french pancakes. |
| 00:31.17 | Kirkburn | Adys, I'm disappointed. Can't I shock you any more? |
| 00:31.23 | Adys | you can |
| 00:31.36 | Kirkburn | You didn't even react to my cry of Agincourt :( |
| 00:34.49 | Teomyr | need [Sleep]. |
| 00:34.55 | Teomyr | good night! |
| 00:35.19 | MatthewS | g'night |
| 00:36.24 | DuGabarit | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:36.40 | Teomyr | wow, then i seem to be a lucky bastard, i'm getting plenty of them :P |
| 00:36.41 | DuGabarit | hehe |
| 00:36.50 | DuGabarit | I'm surprise dyou can even get a group for othat... |
| 00:37.18 | Teomyr | can't, have to solo it |
| 00:37.38 | DuGabarit | Yeah, I suppose you can now, at 70. |
| 00:37.47 | DuGabarit | I want to solo Ragnaros. |
| 00:37.58 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 00:38.02 | Teomyr | hf :P |
| 00:38.07 | DuGabarit | I R LOCK! |
| 00:38.11 | DuGabarit | ROOOOAR! |
| 00:38.24 | Teomyr | JUST BNAISH HIS ADS!!11 |
| 00:38.29 | Kirkburn | For cat lovers - http://www.funnyanimalvideos.com/cat-videos/cat-news/ |
| 00:38.30 | DuGabarit | hehe |
| 00:38.42 | Teomyr | AND MAEK WTFPWNZ W/ 100k SCHADOWBOLTT |
| 00:39.36 | Teomyr | well. good night :P |
| 00:39.38 | DuGabarit | PHEARRRRRRRBOOOOOOOMB!!!!!!!11one!1 |
| 00:39.50 | DuGabarit | Sweet dreams! |
| 00:39.58 | Teomyr | thx |
| 00:43.24 | DuGabarit | Ooh... my tough question of the day: |
| 00:43.41 | DuGabarit | Do I strain my mac n cheese with the cheese grater, or the cocktail strainer? |
| 00:45.35 | MatthewS | cocktail strainer |
| 00:45.43 | DuGabarit | no way, cheese grater |
| 00:45.50 | DuGabarit | can't have the cocktail strainer dirty for too long. |
| 00:46.08 | MatthewS | on a side note, there is a planned museum of the american cocktail |
| 00:46.18 | MatthewS | there's a benefit at a restaurant in ny next month for it |
| 00:46.19 | DuGabarit | sweet |
| 00:46.27 | MatthewS | and it will be opened in...new orleans |
| 00:46.38 | DuGabarit | Damn, they allow that many alcoholics in a restaurant at once? |
| 00:47.08 | MatthewS | for a fundraiser for cocktails, sure |
| 00:47.26 | DuGabarit | Of course, they would probably make phat cash on the liquor bar that night. |
| 00:49.07 | DuGabarit | What exactly makes a cocktail american, anyway? |
| 00:49.12 | MatthewS | not sure |
| 00:49.26 | MatthewS | thinking that may be the hook for this fundraiser dinner... |
| 00:49.28 | DuGabarit | Some of the best mixed drinks would definitely be disqualified. |
| 00:49.44 | DuGabarit | The martini... |
| 00:49.50 | DuGabarit | The Irish Carbomb... |
| 00:50.02 | DuGabarit | Black and Tans... |
| 00:50.12 | DuGabarit | Shush! It's a mixed drink! |
| 00:50.33 | MatthewS | not saying a word! |
| 00:50.51 | DuGabarit | And how do you know where some of them originated? |
| 00:51.01 | DuGabarit | Is a Stoli and Sprite Russian? |
| 00:51.13 | MatthewS | sounds like it's deserving of a wiki |
| 00:51.27 | DuGabarit | Bartender's Wiki!!!! |
| 00:51.59 | DuGabarit | http://wiki.webtender.com/ |
| 00:52.17 | MatthewS | nevermind, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cocktails |
| 00:52.34 | DuGabarit | my wiki is better |
| 00:53.13 | MatthewS | mine refers to a Screaming Orgasm |
| 00:53.26 | MatthewS | and Flaming Beverages |
| 00:55.38 | Adys | nn peeps |
| 00:57.52 | DuGabarit | Ack, I've been PWNd by Flaming Beverages. |
| 00:58.48 | MatthewS | I noticed some conspicuous silence. |
| 01:01.11 | MatthewS | I'm reading about making a Backdraft |
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| 01:10.22 | DuGabarit | http://wiki.webtender.com/wiki/Monkey_Gland |
| 01:14.01 | MatthewS | looks a tad scary |
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| 01:21.40 | DuGabarit | mmmm... absinthe... |
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| 01:22.28 | DuGabarit | Sup Skyfire |
| 01:32.33 | MatthewS | why does everyone keep trying to recruit me for Kharazan when i just want to slack |
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| 01:37.09 | Skosiris | does anyone know Kitan ? |
| 01:37.44 | DuGabarit | I know OF him... |
| 01:40.28 | Skyfire | personally? i doubt it |
| 01:40.32 | Skyfire | i know who he is though. |
| 01:40.41 | Skyfire | lol@slackers |
| 01:40.49 | Skyfire | who are ye dugabarit? |
| 01:40.58 | DuGabarit | DuTempete |
| 01:41.30 | Skyfire | i thought it |
| 01:43.22 | Skyfire | cough http://www.wowwiki.com/Blink cough |
| 01:43.25 | Skyfire | :] |
| 01:45.23 | DuGabarit | Looks really good... the table even matches the infobox |
| 01:45.57 | Skyfire | I borrowed it from Slam |
| 01:45.58 | Skyfire | :] |
| 01:46.11 | Skyfire | obviously, the table was moved. |
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| 01:52.52 | Skyfire | oh boy |
| 01:53.03 | Skyfire | all the talents that improve blizzard... |
| 01:53.06 | Skyfire | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:20.27 | Bagginsww | I wonder if its a coincidence that Draenei may eat gnomes as a delicasy, come from argus, and gnomes have the word "protos" in their language. |
| 02:20.52 | Bagginsww | there was something about a argus stone in Protoss history. |
| 02:21.47 | Bagginsww | humor aside, ;) |
| 02:24.04 | Skyfire | uh... |
| 02:25.19 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Gnomish |
| 02:26.05 | Skyfire | proto is a prefix for "first" -_- |
| 02:26.11 | Skyfire | maybe our gnomes speak latin |
| 02:26.19 | Skyfire | :D |
| 02:26.31 | Skyfire | protos is the word it comes from, actually |
| 02:26.44 | Skyfire | http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=prefix+protos&btnG=Search |
| 02:27.01 | Skyfire | coughgreekcough |
| 02:27.14 | Bagginsww | I haven't read through dwarven entirely but both share alot of the same prefixes |
| 02:27.50 | Bagginsww | I think gnomes might have some crossover with common too |
| 02:27.55 | Bagginsww | Tiris |
| 02:28.03 | Bagginsww | Tirisfal? |
| 02:28.28 | Bagginsww | I know the great evil under Tirisfil Glades = Gnomes |
| 02:28.33 | Bagginsww | ;) |
| 02:28.34 | Skyfire | sigh |
| 02:28.43 | Bagginsww | I'm a gnome I love gnomes |
| 02:29.07 | Skyfire | Question |
| 02:29.28 | Skyfire | if you're going to vandalize a page, wouldn't it be most pertinent to vandalize something of use... rather than an obscure diambiguation?> |
| 02:29.34 | Skyfire | :X |
| 02:30.53 | Bagginsww | strange |
| 02:31.10 | Bagginsww | although easier to catch em if they hit well known pages |
| 02:31.25 | Bagginsww | obscure stuff might take longer if people aren't paying attention |
| 02:32.13 | Skyfire | yeah... but i was paying attention. :] |
| 02:34.21 | Skyfire | ugh |
| 02:34.26 | Skyfire | i have so much i want to do... |
| 02:34.27 | Skyfire | >_< |
| 02:42.05 | Bagginsww | Karrion|food, makes me think of Carrion and vultures |
| 02:42.40 | Skyfire | lol |
| 02:42.58 | Skyfire | hey, skosiris, why were you asking about kitan earlier? |
| 02:43.39 | Skyfire | lol |
| 02:43.42 | Skyfire | wtf? |
| 02:44.05 | Skyfire | double redirects are strange |
| 02:46.02 | Skyfire | lets see if my force gets raped.. |
| 02:47.38 | Skyfire | bagginsww, is summoning a water elemental instant? |
| 02:48.08 | Skyfire | nvm |
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| 02:50.57 | Skyfire | huh |
| 02:51.12 | Skyfire | baggins, did you know {{sd}} works for speedydeletes? |
| 02:51.14 | Skyfire | cool |
| 02:54.13 | Skosiris | Skyfire: well, he's the only Wowwikian who doesn't understand |
| 02:54.40 | Skyfire | that? |
| 02:54.43 | Skyfire | o... what did he do |
| 02:54.47 | Skyfire | i think i know. |
| 02:56.34 | Skyfire | lol |
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| 03:01.19 | Skyfire | ugh |
| 03:03.40 | Skosiris | he did the unthinkable.. |
| 03:04.35 | Skyfire | que? |
| 03:04.50 | Skyfire | qqmore |
| 03:04.58 | Skosiris | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Writing/ExternalLinks/Wowhead_removal_vote -> scroll down to the comments section |
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| 03:05.42 | Skyfire | yeah, i know |
| 03:06.23 | Skyfire | oh yeah, learn to link http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Writing/ExternalLinks/Wowhead_removal_vote#Comments |
| 03:06.27 | Skyfire | ;p |
| 04:15.11 | Bagginsww | ya water elemental is instant cast |
| 04:33.05 | Pougee | is there anyone here that knows alot about warlocks? |
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| 12:57.34 | Kirkburn|afk | Creepz, everyone expended their energy with last night's 'discussions' :P |
| 13:07.29 | Bagginsww | added, parser lists, for gnomish, dwarvish, and common |
| 13:08.35 | Bagginsww | Oddly I find words in common that are shared with Gnomish, and words in Gnomish shared in dwarvish/dwarven |
| 13:08.51 | Bagginsww | wonder if dwarven has words shared with common |
| 13:11.11 | Bagginsww | gutterspeak and common share nearly the same word list, but the order is different |
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| 13:13.12 | Kitan | hello all |
| 13:14.00 | amro | hi |
| 13:18.28 | Kitan | So I asked on the Mark of Honor talk page if it should be a part of cost. |
| 13:18.39 | Kitan | does anyone have an opinion? |
| 13:18.40 | Kitan | hat is here? |
| 13:18.45 | Kitan | that is here rather. |
| 13:20.49 | amro | isn't it in the {{cost}} template? |
| 13:24.48 | Kitan | no |
| 13:24.53 | Kitan | or atl east I dont' think so |
| 13:24.59 | Kitan | there is "honor" with h= |
| 13:25.07 | Kitan | but the icon for honor is different than "Mark of Honor" |
| 13:25.12 | Kitan | so i am not sure that they are the same thing |
| 13:27.45 | Kirkburn|afk | Marks of Honor, where are they from? |
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| 13:28.32 | Kitan | do you mean in game or where I saw them on the wiki? |
| 13:29.01 | Kitan | http://www.wowwiki.com/Field_Marshal%27s_Battlegear |
| 13:29.11 | Kitan | that is where I see it on the wiki |
| 13:29.35 | Kitan | Adys asked me to work on the replacing {{WSG Mark}} et al with {{Cost}} because Watchoutbot was gone |
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| 13:39.08 | Kitan | Kirk? |
| 13:39.49 | Kitan | hrm |
| 13:40.01 | Kitan | wowhead says that is "honor" points not Marks of Honor |
| 13:41.06 | Kirkburn|afk | Busy, sorry |
| 13:41.19 | Kirkburn|afk | Wait until more people are on, I'm not well versed in PvP |
| 13:42.09 | Kitan | no worries.. Just was pinging you. Ok I will wait |
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| 14:00.29 | norgul | hi |
| 14:01.57 | Kirkburn|afk | Hullo |
| 14:02.15 | Kirkburn|afk | I've made some updates to http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Writing/ExternalLinks ... but Adys and Tekkub aren't here :( |
| 14:04.09 | Kirkburn|afk | Mew mew |
| 14:05.04 | equiraptor | My druid is almost at level 70. |
| 14:05.23 | equiraptor | Has been for probably 3 weeks now, but two of those weeks I was in New Zealand without a computer. |
| 14:05.45 | equiraptor | And now my computer is acting up, making playing very frustrating. |
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| 14:16.03 | norgul | WoW's history is FANTASTIC |
| 14:16.20 | norgul | I love it |
| 14:16.44 | Kirkburn|afk | equiraptor, :( |
| 14:16.49 | Kirkburn|afk | norgul, great to hear :D |
| 14:17.30 | norgul | If I have had a lot of money, I would put all my money in to make a movie based on it |
| 14:17.32 | norgul | :P |
| 14:18.43 | Kirkburn|afk | norgul, well, if only they were making a Warcraft movie, eh :) |
| 14:18.56 | Tuqui-tuqui | they are -.- |
| 14:19.16 | Tuqui-tuqui | which I think it's retarded... they should make a series out of it |
| 14:19.25 | norgul | yeh |
| 14:19.56 | norgul | i need to level my mage |
| 14:20.05 | Tuqui-tuqui | I dinged 69 last night :D |
| 14:20.11 | norgul | Gz :P |
| 14:20.16 | Tuqui-tuqui | one more level til I can enteres shattered halls :> |
| 14:20.31 | norgul | I dinged my mage 56 yesterday |
| 14:20.47 | Tuqui-tuqui | grats :D |
| 14:20.57 | Tuqui-tuqui | 2 more levels til outland :o |
| 14:21.02 | norgul | yay :) |
| 14:21.11 | Tuqui-tuqui | then it's gear galore |
| 14:21.17 | norgul | hehe |
| 14:21.30 | Tuqui-tuqui | every mob and their mother drops greens in outland >.> |
| 14:21.30 | norgul | i critted 1074, i'm proud ^^ |
| 14:21.37 | Tuqui-tuqui | majority just ends up being vendored :o |
| 14:21.39 | Tuqui-tuqui | 1074? |
| 14:21.42 | Tuqui-tuqui | youre fire :D |
| 14:21.45 | norgul | frostbolt |
| 14:21.48 | Tuqui-tuqui | :o |
| 14:21.50 | Tuqui-tuqui | oohh.... |
| 14:21.55 | Tuqui-tuqui | any arcane in there? |
| 14:21.58 | norgul | no |
| 14:22.02 | Tuqui-tuqui | nice! |
| 14:22.04 | norgul | clean frost |
| 14:22.16 | Tuqui-tuqui | wait, you're not going full frost are you? |
| 14:22.21 | Tuqui-tuqui | save a few for clearcasting |
| 14:22.29 | norgul | i'll respec in level 59 |
| 14:22.42 | norgul | arcane/fire, i think |
| 14:22.47 | Tuqui-tuqui | :o |
| 14:22.52 | Tuqui-tuqui | major DPS |
| 14:23.10 | norgul | I'm grinding, that's why i'm frost |
| 14:23.44 | norgul | don't know where to quest |
| 14:23.53 | norgul | many quests are boring too, i think |
| 14:24.06 | Tuqui-tuqui | hmm... where was I at your level |
| 14:24.19 | norgul | i'm in silithus at the moment |
| 14:24.41 | norgul | silthus |
| 14:24.49 | norgul | silithus* |
| 14:25.01 | norgul | are you horde? |
| 14:25.04 | Tuqui-tuqui | yes |
| 14:25.05 | Tuqui-tuqui | undead |
| 14:25.18 | norgul | ah |
| 14:25.31 | norgul | what server? |
| 14:25.36 | Tuqui-tuqui | gnomer |
| 14:25.41 | Tuqui-tuqui | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-reputation.xml?r=Gnomeregan&n=Tuqster |
| 14:25.41 | norgul | ok |
| 14:25.59 | norgul | i'm gnome mage :/ |
| 14:26.03 | Tuqui-tuqui | >.> |
| 14:26.06 | Tuqui-tuqui | jive turkey... |
| 14:26.08 | Tuqui-tuqui | :p |
| 14:26.22 | norgul | gnomes are ugly |
| 14:26.26 | norgul | especially mine :P |
| 14:27.19 | norgul | i have got 5100 mana unbuffed |
| 14:29.33 | norgul | do you like pvp? |
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| 14:30.57 | Kitan | hrm |
| 14:31.05 | Kitan | back |
| 14:31.14 | Avaren | Tuqui-tuqui, you don't like frost mages? |
| 14:32.17 | norgul | when I was level 54, i took a 65 warrior in duel |
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| 14:34.45 | Adys | helloes |
| 14:35.12 | norgul | hi |
| 14:36.15 | Adys | Do we really have to apologize for sinking the titanic? |
| 14:36.22 | Kitan|Work | hello Adys |
| 14:36.29 | norgul | oh, Tuqui-tuqui plays on the american servers |
| 14:37.05 | Kitan|Work | Adys, when looking at the WSG Mark bot request I noticed Mark of Honor as a currency as well |
| 14:37.20 | Adys | kill it and replace it too |
| 14:37.28 | Kitan|Work | it has a different Icon than Honor, used through cost, so I wasn't sure it was the same. WoWhead says that it is indeed just honor |
| 14:37.28 | Adys | everything should be replaced by {{cost}} |
| 14:37.29 | Kitan|Work | ok |
| 14:37.55 | Kitan|Work | so Mark of Honor is just honor then? |
| 14:38.25 | Adys | uh |
| 14:38.30 | Adys | can you link me an example? |
| 14:38.45 | Kitan|Work | http://www.wowwiki.com/Field_Marshal%27s_Sanctuary_Level_60 |
| 14:39.04 | Kitan|Work | when using elinks to get to, your favorite ;), wowhead it says the amount in honor |
| 14:42.28 | Tuqui-tuqui | Avaren Tuqui-tuqui, you don't like frost mages? <--- ?? |
| 14:42.34 | Tuqui-tuqui | thats all I am :< |
| 14:43.03 | norgul | water elemental is nice |
| 14:45.37 | norgul | how much do you hit with frostbolt, Tuqui-tuqui? |
| 14:46.00 | Tuqui-tuqui | regular FB = about 900 |
| 14:46.07 | norgul | crit? |
| 14:46.34 | Tuqui-tuqui | crit FB = 1750 |
| 14:46.34 | norgul | cool |
| 14:46.34 | Tuqui-tuqui | its low for a frost mage of my level :< |
| 14:46.36 | Tuqui-tuqui | most of my peers hit about 2k |
| 14:46.39 | Tuqui-tuqui | >.> |
| 14:46.55 | Tuqui-tuqui | but once I start raiding at 70, Ill look into more +dmg gear |
| 14:47.09 | norgul | a friend of mine thought i could crit nearly 3000 if i were arcane/fire |
| 14:47.28 | norgul | i was* |
| 14:47.38 | norgul | i'm not native english |
| 14:47.47 | Tuqui-tuqui | well thats the whole purpose of arc/fire ^_^ |
| 14:47.50 | Tuqui-tuqui | big numbers |
| 14:48.02 | norgul | fun |
| 14:48.02 | Tuqui-tuqui | I personally prefer to survive :P especially since I quest solo |
| 14:48.05 | Teomyr | big numbers, low survivability |
| 14:48.16 | Tuqui-tuqui | yep yep |
| 14:48.22 | norgul | i also quest solo |
| 14:49.06 | Tuqui-tuqui | oh speaking of solo questing |
| 14:49.17 | Tuqui-tuqui | have you guys done the legion camp: fear quests? |
| 14:49.28 | norgul | nope |
| 14:49.35 | Tuqui-tuqui | you have to take down the boss in the middle of the camp? |
| 14:49.35 | norgul | too low level :P |
| 14:49.38 | Tuqui-tuqui | its in nagrand:outland :D |
| 14:49.45 | Tuqui-tuqui | I did this at 67 |
| 14:49.48 | Tuqui-tuqui | listen to this |
| 14:49.53 | Tuqui-tuqui | the mobs are lvl 68 elite |
| 14:50.06 | Tuqui-tuqui | so I kited them for 13 minutes to the horde camp :D |
| 14:50.13 | norgul | :D |
| 14:50.16 | norgul | nice |
| 14:50.17 | Tuqui-tuqui | they killed him, I took the credit D |
| 14:50.19 | Tuqui-tuqui | :D |
| 14:50.23 | norgul | smart |
| 14:50.45 | norgul | if there is one elite, i can kill it myself :P |
| 14:51.26 | Tuqui-tuqui | yeah elites can be killed alone especially with a WE |
| 14:51.33 | norgul | WE? |
| 14:51.35 | Tuqui-tuqui | problem is that some of them are |
| 14:51.39 | Tuqui-tuqui | 1) too fast |
| 14:51.45 | Tuqui-tuqui | 2) have HUGE amount of melee damage |
| 14:51.50 | Tuqui-tuqui | WE = Water Elemental |
| 14:52.06 | norgul | oh, should figured that out |
| 14:52.11 | Tuqui-tuqui | ^_^ |
| 14:52.31 | norgul | alots of writing mistakes today |
| 14:52.34 | Kitan|Work | Adys you disappeared. :) |
| 14:52.41 | Adys | im here, sec |
| 14:52.43 | Kitan|Work | gack |
| 14:52.49 | Kitan|Work | stupid web client! |
| 14:52.50 | norgul | long time since i have written english :/ |
| 14:54.09 | norgul | do you guys play now? |
| 14:56.18 | Kitan|Work | um.. as in am I playing in another window? I personally am not. |
| 14:56.35 | norgul | ok |
| 14:56.51 | norgul | i'm waiting to be full rested before i start again |
| 14:57.39 | Kitan|Work | I find that consistent play will often out level just playing while rested. |
| 14:57.50 | Bagginsww | ok finished most of the language list stuff. Will probably add comments about numbering of the words in the files, as well as "repeated" words representing 2-3 seperate words. |
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| 14:57.59 | Bagginsww | later |
| 14:58.04 | Kitan|Work | later Baggins |
| 14:58.15 | Bagginsww | ok, take care everyone |
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| 14:59.40 | Hobinheim|work | later? |
| 15:05.48 | Kitan|Work | how is it going hob? |
| 15:06.11 | Kirkburn|afk | Bbl |
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| 15:08.05 | Hobinheim|work | it's... lol you left |
| 15:08.10 | Kitan|Work | I didn't |
| 15:08.18 | Kitan|Work | Kitan != Kirkburn |
| 15:08.25 | Kitan|Work | :) |
| 15:09.51 | Hobinheim|work | oh |
| 15:09.53 | Hobinheim|work | i can't read |
| 15:09.55 | Hobinheim|work | hi Kitan|Work |
| 15:09.56 | Hobinheim|work | it's going good |
| 15:09.59 | Hobinheim|work | it's a nice day in nyc |
| 15:10.31 | Kitan|Work | crappy here |
| 15:10.38 | Kitan|Work | foggy and snowy/slushy |
| 15:10.45 | Kitan|Work | Madison, WI |
| 15:15.36 | norgul | nice here in norway |
| 15:15.54 | equiraptor | Nice in Austin, TX, too. |
| 15:16.03 | Kitan|Work | well all of you suck then. :) |
| 15:16.12 | equiraptor | We just know where to live. :-P |
| 15:16.13 | norgul | i will move to the USA in few years :D |
| 15:16.50 | equiraptor | (Now if only I could do something about the dang "meddle in everyone's lives" politics) |
| 15:17.29 | equiraptor | Unfortunately, both Republicans and Democrats seem to think I need to be protected from myself. At least they disagree on which parts of me need protecting frm what. |
| 15:18.39 | Kitan|Work | heh |
| 15:22.02 | Hobinheim|work | work is exploding |
| 15:22.03 | Hobinheim|work | gotta go |
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| 15:22.55 | Kitan|Work | Exploding work is bad |
| 15:28.38 | Kitan|Work | ~slap Kitan |
| 15:28.46 | infobot | ACTION slaps Kitan, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 15:28.46 | Kitan|Work | hrm |
| 15:28.55 | Kitan|Work | thought infobot does that... oh.. it does :) |
| 15:28.58 | Kitan|Work | ~ |
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| 16:05.11 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Writing/ExternalLinks i think its ready |
| 16:07.20 | Kitan|Work | Adys you never answerd me on the Mark of Honor/Honor thing :) |
| 16:07.27 | Adys | ya, sup? |
| 16:07.36 | Adys | zsorry been ingame alot |
| 16:07.50 | Kitan|Work | not worried.. just aw you were back is all :) |
| 16:08.10 | norgul | when i come home, i will try to play on RP server |
| 16:09.06 | Kitan|Work | "when I go home" norgul is a bit better (just trying to help not be mean) |
| 16:09.26 | norgul | thanks |
| 16:09.44 | norgul | just correct me when i'm wrong |
| 16:10.01 | norgul | that helps me writing better english |
| 16:10.02 | Kitan|Work | I "might" be able to write, where is the toilet?, in german. But that is all I can do. It has been too many years since class. |
| 16:10.25 | norgul | and getting better grades at school in englsih |
| 16:10.26 | norgul | english |
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| 16:21.42 | Hobinheim|work | :v: |
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| 17:03.16 | Gunslngr2 | wow, irc.. |
| 17:03.24 | Gunslngr2 | i am amazed this program is still on my computer |
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| 17:46.07 | Skosiris | Adys, |
| 17:46.11 | Adys | mm? |
| 17:46.17 | Skosiris | I would need you to provide me with the coordinates of http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=14732 |
| 17:46.23 | Skosiris | so I can add the WSG location :) |
| 17:46.30 | Adys | let me check |
| 17:47.13 | Adys | around 36.60 |
| 17:47.36 | Adys | but it might be wrong, i can give you something accurate next time im in wsg but atm im in a raid :P |
| 17:49.02 | Skosiris | ok |
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| 18:35.39 | Kitan|Work | welcome back Cairenn |
| 18:35.51 | Cairenn | thanks |
| 18:38.34 | Kitan|Work | did you clean up at work Hob? You quit because it had "exploded" :) |
| 18:45.57 | Hobinheim|work | yeah it got solved... |
| 18:46.08 | Hobinheim|work | http://www.mlb.com/mlb/scoreboard/20070411.html |
| 18:46.49 | Kaos | Hey anyone remember the other day when I was talking about an item stats extension for wiki? |
| 18:47.07 | Kaos | http://www.karazhan.eu/portal/wiki/index.php?title=Test_Itemstats |
| 18:47.22 | Kaos | I imagine that could explain alot quicker :) |
| 18:49.13 | Kaos | Well if its a use to someone, in future I hope to get access to a feed like wowhead which would work on XML and therefore be really nice to parse and give more options in terms of how information is displayed :) |
| 18:49.57 | Kaos | I might have to add an option where the item information is shown not as a tool tip but just flat, just a faster way to get item information into wiki |
| 18:50.19 | Kitan|Work | You were discussing this with Adys and Teomyr the other day right Kaos? |
| 18:50.38 | Adys | back |
| 18:50.48 | Kitan|Work | didn't mean to beep you Adys |
| 18:50.57 | Adys | mkay |
| 18:51.06 | Kitan|Work | I saw that you were WSGing |
| 18:51.29 | Kitan|Work | I do still watn to discuss that algorithm with you. :) |
| 18:51.33 | Kitan|Work | whenever you have time |
| 18:52.06 | Kaos | Yeah i'm the same guy :) |
| 18:52.33 | Kaos | What do you want to know? |
| 18:53.24 | Kitan|Work | sorry the algorithm discussion was for A up there. :) |
| 18:53.34 | Kaos | ah lol :P |
| 18:53.36 | Kitan|Work | I can't help you on the item stats plugin. :) Sorry |
| 18:53.39 | Kaos | I was a little curious :P |
| 18:53.44 | Kitan|Work | though it looks cool |
| 18:54.08 | Kitan|Work | Algorithm in question is for my bot to make some changes in the way currency of any type is displayed on the pages |
| 18:54.08 | Kaos | thank you :) |
| 18:54.11 | Kitan|Work | essentially |
| 18:54.28 | Kitan|Work | I think I have sufficiently muddled the two conversations together now :) |
| 18:54.40 | Kaos | yes they'll never know *muwhahahahaha* |
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| 19:10.17 | Adys | Kitan|Work: what did you want to discuss? |
| 19:10.24 | Adys | Im still here I mean =P |
| 19:11.05 | Kitan|Work | ahh |
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| 19:11.14 | Adys | lo mikk :) |
| 19:11.18 | Mikk | heya |
| 19:11.25 | Mikk | just upped new versions of those 3 icons |
| 19:11.32 | Mikk | bit unimaginative but ... bleh |
| 19:11.33 | Kitan|Work | Well do you want me to replace Mark of Honor with cost|honor=10000|wsg=30 ? |
| 19:11.49 | Adys | aye kitan |
| 19:11.59 | Kitan|Work | remember it is honor according to WoWhead |
| 19:12.06 | Kitan|Work | but the icon is different |
| 19:12.19 | Kitan|Work | than the honor icon in cost so I wanted to be sure |
| 19:12.34 | Adys | awesome mikk thanks :) |
| 19:13.38 | Adys | watchlist should allow you to see when an image has a new version, ffs =/ |
| 19:13.56 | Mikk | indeed >.< |
| 19:14.24 | Adys | The AmpWoW link removal vote is now closed |
| 19:14.28 | Adys | "Guess which option won!é |
| 19:14.47 | Adys | Remove 21 votes, keep 0 vote, lol |
| 19:15.24 | Adys | The only keep vote they got was too late, so has to be rolled back |
| 19:18.28 | Kitan|Work | did you say why anywhere? |
| 19:18.33 | Kitan|Work | to dooder? |
| 19:19.32 | Adys | Mikk, beep |
| 19:19.42 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Icon-blizzard-22x22.png is it poss to make it transparent or something? |
| 19:20.21 | Hobinheim|work | poss? |
| 19:21.09 | Mikk | Adys: yeah, it is. i tried. becomes bloody unreadable :< |
| 19:21.15 | Adys | oh :/ |
| 19:21.20 | Mikk | just a blur of blue pixels |
| 19:21.23 | Adys | Hobinheim|work: possible |
| 19:22.04 | Hobinheim|work | posSIH. BLEH |
| 19:22.11 | Hobinheim|work | that's the way americans try to speak french |
| 19:22.18 | Hobinheim|work | it's impossibleh |
| 19:22.31 | Mikk | sacre blaeughl! |
| 19:23.04 | Skosiris | lol |
| 19:23.05 | Adys | Skosiris |
| 19:23.08 | Adys | 38.51 |
| 19:23.10 | Adys | exact loc |
| 19:23.13 | Skosiris | ok |
| 19:23.16 | Skosiris | thanks! |
| 19:23.18 | Adys | np :) |
| 19:23.35 | Kitan|Work | Your keyboard can't taste very good.... |
| 19:26.16 | Skosiris | hmm |
| 19:28.27 | Skosiris | "If one side outnumbers the other by five votes for three days, that side is declared the winner." |
| 19:28.44 | Skosiris | what if this never happens? o_O |
| 19:29.37 | Teomyr | that's a problem, then, and one of the reasons why it took us so long to decide on a new icon :P |
| 19:29.52 | Kitan|Work | It should stay the way it is. |
| 19:29.58 | Kitan|Work | in this case, in my opinion |
| 19:30.08 | Kitan|Work | shrug |
| 19:30.11 | Kitan|Work | not worth much though |
| 19:30.27 | Kitan|Work | :) |
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| 20:06.58 | Kaos_ | Teomyr: you here? |
| 20:08.33 | Adys | Skosiris! Slacker! |
| 20:08.56 | Adys | I gave you the coords <mutters> |
| 20:10.29 | Skosiris | lol |
| 20:11.51 | Teomyr | Kaos_: yes |
| 20:12.51 | Skosiris | hold on Adys, stuff doesn't magically appear on the site :P |
| 20:13.00 | Adys | wtf, it doesnt? |
| 20:13.05 | Kaos_ | Teomyr: http://www.karazhan.eu/portal/wiki/index.php?title=Test_Itemstats As promised. |
| 20:13.26 | Skosiris | [14:49] <Kaos> Well if its a use to someone, in future I hope to get access to a feed like wowhead which would work on XML and therefore be really nice to parse and give more options in terms of how information is displayed :) |
| 20:13.26 | Teomyr | it doesn't? anyone have a link to the wowhead removal vote? :P |
| 20:13.31 | Skosiris | lol |
| 20:13.32 | Adys | LOL |
| 20:14.07 | Skosiris | Kaos: what did you mean by "in future I hope to get access to a feed like wowhead" ? |
| 20:14.13 | Skosiris | don't you already have access to them? |
| 20:14.16 | Teomyr | looks nice, kaos :) |
| 20:14.26 | Teomyr | Skosiris: i think no one told him ;) |
| 20:14.46 | Kaos_ | Well I might have been blind as i've not checked past few days but I haven't seen an item xml output? |
| 20:14.48 | Adys | how about spell xml btw? |
| 20:15.24 | Teomyr | Kaos_: i implemented a similiar tooltip extension, but without the data fetching (that'd be a separate one) |
| 20:15.27 | Teomyr | Kaos_: http://vs157092.vserver.de/wowwikitest/index.php/Tooltips |
| 20:15.31 | Skosiris | Adys: well, you could import all of the spell data from Spell.dbc.. :P |
| 20:15.41 | Adys | pft |
| 20:15.57 | Skosiris | all the info is in that file, awaiting you to retrieve it |
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| 20:16.28 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+o Kirkburn] by ChanServ |
| 20:16.39 | Adys | How the hell do i register on this wiki? |
| 20:16.46 | Kirkburn | Boo |
| 20:16.46 | Adys | http://www.karazhan.eu/portal/wiki/index.php/Main_Page that is |
| 20:16.54 | Adys | heya kinky |
| 20:17.07 | Teomyr | hi kirk |
| 20:17.21 | Skosiris | lol @ "kinky" |
| 20:17.30 | Adys | we had this mage called Kirky |
| 20:17.33 | Adys | we called him Kinky |
| 20:17.52 | Adys | anyways, who's this "SiteAdmin" on the karazhan eu wiki :P I wanna see the source <cry> |
| 20:18.05 | Kaos_ | Adys: Sent you a pm |
| 20:18.13 | Adys | where ? |
| 20:18.27 | Adys | if its on irc you might need to register or log in |
| 20:18.42 | Kaos_ | PM via irc |
| 20:18.56 | Adys | didnt recieve it, did you register with freenode? |
| 20:18.58 | Kaos_ | you didn't get it? |
| 20:19.02 | Kaos_ | ah okay |
| 20:19.08 | Kaos_ | http://www.karazhan.eu/portal/community/index.php?action=register |
| 20:19.21 | Kaos_ | my wiki is linked to an SMF install. |
| 20:19.22 | Adys | thankyou |
| 20:19.34 | Adys | yeah the german wiki had something similar |
| 20:19.38 | Adys | ugh |
| 20:20.36 | Teomyr | the big drawback with that approach is, you can't use it inside a template (you can't use template variables to call the tooltip function) |
| 20:20.55 | Adys | <whosonline></whosonline> is an added extension i guess? |
| 20:21.02 | Kaos_ | yes Adys :) |
| 20:21.12 | Teomyr | e.g. you cant use <item>{{{1}}}</item> where param 1 is the item id |
| 20:21.41 | Adys | interesting |
| 20:21.45 | Adys | but |
| 20:21.48 | Kaos_ | Teomyr: Correct, though in theory you could create new tags that held the template for you. |
| 20:23.16 | Adys | very small control over it |
| 20:23.16 | Teomyr | ugh |
| 20:23.16 | Kaos_ | Well as I said the other day :) It was built specifically for the project I was working on though I came here thinking someone may want it ;) |
| 20:23.16 | Adys | i guess yeah |
| 20:23.17 | Teomyr | yes, for that purpose it's great ;) |
| 20:23.17 | Adys | wtb more control over the wiki as a whole tbh |
| 20:23.17 | Teomyr | but personally, i think the wowwiki users would demand more flexibility |
| 20:23.39 | Kaos_ | Well i suppose that is the eternal payoff |
| 20:23.52 | Kaos_ | flexibility vs speed/ease of use |
| 20:24.11 | Teomyr | yes :/ |
| 20:24.26 | Adys | wtb parse functions |
| 20:24.58 | Kitan|Work | Will Rus not add parse functions? |
| 20:25.16 | Gryphen | its the time needed |
| 20:25.26 | Teomyr | he doesn't seem to have time for it. and he wants to upgrade mediawiki first |
| 20:25.34 | Adys | y |
| 20:25.51 | Kirkburn | I am somewhat shocked by the Thott vote atm btw |
| 20:26.00 | Adys | how comes kirk? |
| 20:26.12 | Kirkburn | I expected more support |
| 20:26.22 | Kitan|Work | I am a big fan of thott actually |
| 20:26.36 | Gryphen | think its a vocal minority |
| 20:26.38 | Kitan|Work | if you want Kirk I could modify bot to create a bunch of accounts and vote repeatedly. |
| 20:26.39 | Kirkburn | The whole (untrue) trojans, etc thing is more important to people than I thought |
| 20:26.54 | Adys | Well in all honesty i couldnt care more about popularity |
| 20:27.20 | Adys | When there is something that makes the job 100 times better I don't use the "popular" thing anymore just because theres more ppl using it |
| 20:27.34 | Kitan|Work | I don't think we should remove them unless it is a massive removal base. |
| 20:27.38 | Adys | Since ever i even know allakhazam i stopped using thottbot |
| 20:27.52 | Adys | I started using it again only for spells |
| 20:27.59 | Gryphen | not sure why thott is so tough for you |
| 20:28.01 | Adys | their "related spell" thing is nice |
| 20:28.11 | Adys | (hear that skosiris? get working.) |
| 20:28.21 | Adys | :P |
| 20:28.50 | Kirkburn | Kitan|Work, I am inclined to agree |
| 20:29.15 | Adys | for example |
| 20:29.16 | Adys | http://www.thottbot.com/s26651 |
| 20:29.27 | Adys | Related Spells section is awesome there |
| 20:29.53 | Adys | the rest sucks, tbh |
| 20:30.05 | Teomyr | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=5308 |
| 20:30.06 | Kitan|Work | I like it better than WoWhead currently |
| 20:30.10 | Teomyr | "See also" tab |
| 20:30.15 | Kitan|Work | not sure why |
| 20:30.27 | Adys | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=26651 ? |
| 20:30.33 | Kitan|Work | also I dispise alla |
| 20:30.44 | Teomyr | ah |
| 20:30.47 | Skosiris | err , *reading* sorry was AFM (away from mIRC) |
| 20:31.05 | Adys | well for example on http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=26651 I dont see what spells "use" it |
| 20:31.18 | Kitan|Work | also, I think it is great that someone said a reason to remove a site was that it had adds for gold sellers and we have a power leveling service as an add on the wiki |
| 20:31.19 | Adys | well the whole related spells thing is the only reason why i still use thott |
| 20:31.46 | Skosiris | no one should ever have to use Thott |
| 20:31.53 | Kitan|Work | gold selling and leveling service are essentially the same level of evil |
| 20:31.58 | Adys | yes get working sweety then :P |
| 20:32.08 | Gryphen | or have to use wowhead |
| 20:32.09 | Gryphen | heh |
| 20:32.11 | Kitan|Work | Skosiris == WoWHead |
| 20:32.14 | Adys | the whole gold stuff or anything is bs |
| 20:32.16 | Kitan|Work | ? |
| 20:32.21 | Adys | yes |
| 20:32.23 | Kitan|Work | ahh |
| 20:32.38 | Skosiris | ooh |
| 20:32.40 | Skosiris | it's you! |
| 20:32.46 | Skosiris | the one who doesn't understand :P |
| 20:32.51 | Gryphen | i dont either |
| 20:32.54 | Kitan|Work | yeah it is me |
| 20:32.58 | Adys | I honestly dont fucking care if someone uses gold selling ads on his website |
| 20:33.12 | Kitan|Work | I am just point out that was someone's reasoning Adys |
| 20:33.15 | Adys | I do find the move of avoiding such ads quite nice (which i see on wowhead for example) |
| 20:33.16 | Kitan|Work | calm yourself :) |
| 20:33.22 | Kirkburn | btw, http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Writing/ExternalLinks |
| 20:33.24 | Adys | No im stating my opinion atm |
| 20:33.31 | Adys | aye saw it kirk, its ready for vote imo |
| 20:34.02 | Tekkub | eh? |
| 20:34.02 | Adys | An external website is not something we want but something we allow |
| 20:34.04 | Kitan|Work | so according to that, if my site has comments unique compared to others sites, for each quest/item it is on I can have a link right? |
| 20:34.14 | Kirkburn | Tek, did you see my update to EL? |
| 20:34.17 | Tekkub | yes |
| 20:34.35 | Kitan|Work | Btw, I have no site but am trying to be sure I undestand what is being decreed. |
| 20:34.37 | Adys | Example of why we shouldnt allow allakhazam: |
| 20:34.49 | Adys | Its not a clean website. Its slow and sucks as a whole |
| 20:35.00 | Tekkub | we're decreeing some structure to elinks |
| 20:35.01 | Adys | It misses accuracy on many domains (spells SUCK there) |
| 20:35.08 | Kitan|Work | some people like it though |
| 20:35.10 | Tekkub | so that people don't abuse it |
| 20:35.29 | Adys | and it very simply doesnt do anything better than thott or wowhead does |
| 20:35.32 | Kitan|Work | I understand that Tek. I was going to get to the point that if there is any unique content. |
| 20:35.38 | Kirkburn | Some changes I made were to make it a little less "absolute", as there's always exceptions |
| 20:35.47 | Adys | mikk stated that droprates were better which is a fair point, but will fade over time |
| 20:35.50 | Kitan|Work | that allows for someone to have a link to their site |
| 20:35.56 | Adys | up to that its personal opinions |
| 20:36.02 | Tekkub | oh, that's mostly so that people don't just rip off the wiki content and create a site to generate ad revenue |
| 20:36.05 | Kitan|Work | I think a lot here is personal opinion |
| 20:37.17 | Adys | No, first you look up the disadvantages and advantages of having a certain website in your external links session |
| 20:37.29 | Adys | whats the advantages of ampwow? The resistance pages and a couple of tools are awesome |
| 20:37.38 | Adys | Are they needed on every item, quest and npc page? No |
| 20:37.57 | Adys | Whats the advantages of allakhazam? They get new content faster, and have some higher droprate |
| 20:37.58 | Tekkub | if they want to be on everyo one of those pages they can edit in |
| 20:38.11 | Adys | Fades over time and will change. -> Personal opinion, up to the votze |
| 20:38.14 | Tekkub | the vote says people don't want it in the elinks template |
| 20:38.35 | Tekkub | and votes for allan and thott say keep em |
| 20:38.36 | Tekkub | :P |
| 20:38.39 | Adys | Whats the advantages of Thottbot, over all the other websites |
| 20:38.45 | Tekkub | anywho, teevee time buhbye |
| 20:38.51 | Adys | have fun tekk |
| 20:39.14 | Tekkub | thott? stubborn community |
| 20:39.15 | Adys | Their spell database is awesome, thats one thing |
| 20:39.20 | Tekkub | won't try other sites :) |
| 20:39.28 | Kitan|Work | My point Adys is that I could argue that since Thott is nearly as good as WoWHead, which I can't stand their icon btw, and their spell database is superior |
| 20:39.32 | Kitan|Work | we should dump wowhead |
| 20:39.38 | Kitan|Work | no point in duplicate content |
| 20:39.43 | Kitan|Work | my opinion matters most so... etc etc etc |
| 20:39.48 | Kitan|Work | this is an opinion issue |
| 20:39.57 | Adys | that is fine, but that is why we vote |
| 20:40.27 | Adys | I should have done the vote at first as "which one are we going to keep" |
| 20:40.32 | Kitan|Work | Well i am not trying to dis WoWHead, but it honestly does seem like a "Dump everyone but WoWhead" agenda |
| 20:40.38 | Kitan|Work | to me |
| 20:40.42 | Adys | it is. |
| 20:40.47 | Adys | Im not hiding it, lol |
| 20:40.52 | Adys | But I do have my reasons |
| 20:40.58 | Kitan|Work | so I should throw up an agenda to drop everyone but Thott |
| 20:41.04 | Kitan|Work | for the reasons above? |
| 20:41.11 | Adys | Go ahead, if you want. |
| 20:41.36 | Adys | if you think you got a chance |
| 20:41.36 | Kitan|Work | meh |
| 20:41.36 | Adys | Thats what i told zeal ages ago |
| 20:41.40 | Kitan|Work | I think that it should be more fair than whatever the current admins and vocals want |
| 20:41.43 | Adys | you do whatever changes you want, but major stuff goes through votes, good luck |
| 20:41.53 | Kitan|Work | see? |
| 20:42.13 | Adys | it doesnt have to be fair, it has to be useful |
| 20:42.26 | Kitan|Work | Or rather it has to be seen as useful by the curent admins in power? |
| 20:42.52 | Adys | No, else I would have done the edit myself and killed out ampwow, thott and alla |
| 20:43.14 | Adys | I can do that, if it was up to only me i'd do it |
| 20:43.17 | Kirkburn | I chose the admins because the specifically were open to reasoning |
| 20:43.21 | Kirkburn | *they |
| 20:43.27 | Adys | So it has to be seen as useful by the current COMMUNITY, nothing else |
| 20:43.29 | Kitan|Work | i am not dising admins or you Kirk |
| 20:43.41 | Kirkburn | Oh I know, I just felt like saying that :P |
| 20:43.50 | Adys | yus kirk we all love you :p |
| 20:43.51 | Kitan|Work | or Adys actually |
| 20:44.16 | Adys | Kitan|Work: if stuff was only up to the admins, we wouldnt have waited for a vote to do that, if you see what i mean |
| 20:44.20 | Kitan|Work | I just think that this is a move to rip everyone one but WoWhead off of the wiki under the guise of neutrality. Or rather it seemed that way. |
| 20:44.34 | Kitan|Work | I see to some extent yes. |
| 20:45.03 | Adys | if I could do such a move, I would have done it long time ago, thats why I do a vote |
| 20:45.05 | Kitan|Work | but in theory we are going to possibly drive way more people to WoWHead instead of the places that they are familiar with and want to go in the future |
| 20:45.43 | Adys | my opinion doesnt matter more than others, Im one voice in a very long vote |
| 20:45.45 | Kitan|Work | as opposed to giving the users a choice |
| 20:46.02 | dotted | where is the vote? |
| 20:46.15 | Kitan|Work | Four different ones |
| 20:46.15 | *** topic/#wowwiki by Adys -> Channel info: tinyurl.com/36u82j | RC list: tinyurl.com/2oawam | UI questions? Join #wowi-lounge | Current project: edit and organise class pages! | Go vote! http://tinyurl.com/2kjm8d | WoWWiki sunk the Titanic. We apologise! |
| 20:46.41 | Kirkburn | Adys, what did you change? |
| 20:46.46 | Adys | Nothing |
| 20:46.55 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 20:46.56 | Adys | im lighting it up for kitan :P |
| 20:47.09 | Adys | er, dotted |
| 20:47.14 | dotted | :p |
| 20:47.51 | Kitan|Work | I guess in the end I see your point but am pessemistic on how many of the general population vote. |
| 20:48.00 | dotted | i think that link needs updating |
| 20:48.02 | Kitan|Work | but if you don't that is your own fault. :) |
| 20:48.28 | dotted | just getting to the village pump |
| 20:48.38 | Kirkburn | Does it not go to the specific topic title? |
| 20:48.44 | Kitan|Work | no |
| 20:48.49 | Kitan|Work | it just loads the pump |
| 20:49.09 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#Thottbot.2C_Allakhazam.2C_AmpWoW.2C_Wowhead_elinks |
| 20:49.14 | Kirkburn | The name was changed :/ |
| 20:49.36 | *** topic/#wowwiki by Kirkburn -> Channel info: tinyurl.com/36u82j | RC list: tinyurl.com/2oawam | UI questions? Join #wowi-lounge | Current project: edit and organise class pages! | Go vote! http://tinyurl.com/yp3t5l | WoWWiki sunk the Titanic. We apologise! |
| 20:49.41 | Kirkburn | Fixxored :) |
| 20:52.32 | Kirkburn | Kitan|Work, the variety of voters so far seems encouraging to me |
| 20:52.38 | Kirkburn | It's certainly not just the 'regulars' |
| 20:52.43 | Kitan|Work | Nod |
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| 20:53.09 | Kitan|Work | I guess before I talked with Adys it really seemed like a everyone against all bot WoW. |
| 20:53.34 | Kitan|Work | I didn't even bother voting for WoWHead because I didn't have that much experience with them. I agree that they are overall a cleaner interface |
| 20:53.46 | Kitan|Work | but for some reason the tabs at the bottom bug me. :) |
| 20:53.49 | Kitan|Work | I hate alla though |
| 20:54.44 | Kitan|Work | Anyway I see Adys' point and am dropping it now. :) |
| 20:54.50 | Adys | :P |
| 20:55.03 | Kitan|Work | Also, I use smileys way to freaking much. |
| 20:55.16 | Adys | :o |
| 20:57.40 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#Double_bosses_enumeration |
| 20:57.46 | Adys | Vysogota has a good point |
| 20:58.23 | Skosiris | Kirkburn: "the tabs at the bottom bug me", please elaborate :) |
| 20:59.21 | Kitan|Work | Apparently my name is way to close to yours Kirk |
| 20:59.21 | dotted | Skosiris i think you meant Kitan|Work :p |
| 20:59.28 | Adys | it wasnt kirk :p |
| 20:59.46 | dotted | lol |
| 21:00.03 | Adys | but onto serious stuff skosiris, what do you think of adding the Related Spells stuff to wowhead? :P |
| 21:00.05 | Kitan|Work|Not_K | let me go look quickly |
| 21:00.26 | Kitan|Work|Not_K | to be sure I can tell you what I mean... in the end though it is nothing more than a matter of preference |
| 21:01.53 | Kirkburn | Kitan|Work|Not_K, lol |
| 21:01.55 | Skosiris | yeah, Kitan, sorry :P |
| 21:02.04 | Kitan|Work|Not_K | it is the Comments/Screenshots multi tab section |
| 21:02.09 | Kitan|Work|Not_K | there is nothing wrong with the design |
| 21:02.42 | Kitan|Work|Not_K | at all.. I think it is better than Thotts, which I use, but it bugs me... Probably my old 30 year old self having a hard time with change. :-P |
| 21:03.07 | Adys | interesting http://www.wowhead.com/?npcs=10&filter=na=air+force |
| 21:03.59 | Kitan|Work|Not_K | frankly Skosiris I will probably end up heading over to WoWhead more as I use it sometimes now. |
| 21:04.13 | Shadowed | Adys: Probably just the NPCs that trigger the flying guards are they not |
| 21:04.15 | Kitan|Work|Not_K | but I have to get used to the interface. I think teh background being dark took me a while to get used to too |
| 21:04.17 | Adys | aye |
| 21:04.30 | Adys | but but but |
| 21:04.34 | Adys | the background was our idea! |
| 21:04.46 | Adys | brb :) |
| 21:05.05 | dotted | dark backgrounds are so nice |
| 21:05.11 | Kitan|Work|Not_K | it took me a long time to get used to it |
| 21:05.24 | dotted | makes it more pleasont to the eyes to read imo |
| 21:05.26 | Kitan|Work|Not_K | I spent a lot of time emacs'ing and pico'ing c code at the university |
| 21:05.34 | Skosiris | Kitan: it's all right, just like Gryphen I guess you simply feel more comfortable using Thottbot. |
| 21:05.36 | Kitan|Work|Not_K | so saw a lot of white chars on black |
| 21:05.40 | Skosiris | Maybe because you are used to use it. |
| 21:05.48 | Kitan|Work|Not_K | I think that that is why Skosiris |
| 21:05.53 | Skosiris | also possibly because you see Wowhead as "yet another db site" |
| 21:06.03 | Kitan|Work|Not_K | though I do think your Icon looks like a big phallic symbol |
| 21:06.10 | Skosiris | haha |
| 21:06.25 | Kitan|Work|Not_K | working on the elinksquest bot request I was like. Whoa that is a... rocket. |
| 21:06.31 | dotted | i like the current logo :((( |
| 21:06.41 | Shadowed | It looks nicer when you're alt tabbing in and out of WoW too, since you're usually looking at a dark background |
| 21:07.02 | dotted | :p |
| 21:07.03 | Kitan|Work|Not_K | I wasn't trying to suggest WoWhead change in anyway. |
| 21:07.13 | Kitan|Work|Not_K | just saying I think that is some of my issue.. |
| 21:07.23 | Kitan|Work|Not_K | I think the, "just another" db site is probably close to it |
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| 21:07.31 | Kitan|Work|Not_K | I have been getting frustrated with Thott as of late though |
| 21:07.36 | Shadowed | wowhead should be able to read my mind, when are we getting that Skosiris? |
| 21:07.40 | DuGabarit | Sup peeps... |
| 21:07.47 | Kitan|Work|Not_K | heya DuG |
| 21:07.51 | DuGabarit | afkish while I catch up on the Cosmos argument... |
| 21:07.54 | equiraptor | At first, to me, wowhead was just another db site. now, it's the one db site that's actually GOOD that isn't blocked at work. |
| 21:08.25 | dotted | Shadowed i have recently licensed that technology to wowhead so i'd expect itto be running soon |
| 21:08.25 | equiraptor | I still prefer thott for some things ,but I don't find myself going to alla much at all anymore. |
| 21:08.35 | Shadowed | It's faster then alla, easier to use then thottbot and has less ad's, i'd imagine thats why people like it |
| 21:08.49 | Kitan|Work|Not_K | none of them are blocked here |
| 21:08.51 | Kitan|Work|Not_K | for now |
| 21:08.56 | equiraptor | It's not easier to use for everything, for me. But it is for many. |
| 21:09.34 | Shadowed | hmm what part? I haven't found anything that annoys me that much except when i'm trying to use browser forward/back buttons to change tabs of items and such |
| 21:09.49 | Shadowed | although item searcher is annoying sometimes |
| 21:09.51 | Shadowed | ing not er |
| 21:10.01 | equiraptor | I prefer thott when I'm planning skillups on a profesion. |
| 21:10.18 | Adys | back |
| 21:11.01 | Adys | and yeah |
| 21:11.08 | equiraptor | What I like about the thott pages is the ease of telling when I can learn something, when it turns yellow, and when it goes grey. |
| 21:11.19 | equiraptor | That's INVALUABLE for the way I level crafting profs. |
| 21:11.23 | Shadowed | thats true |
| 21:11.36 | Adys | Wowhead's logo does look like a smiling phallus, why do you think they offer a bc collector edition to whoever can save them? |
| 21:11.43 | Shadowed | theres some item filters that would be nice |
| 21:11.47 | equiraptor | I'm still more accustomed to thotts interface for researching class spells, too. But that may just be what I'm used to. |
| 21:11.55 | Teomyr | lol adys |
| 21:12.12 | Adys | and heya DeLaGrammaire |
| 21:12.16 | Shadowed | I used to use thottbot, but the interface is clunky and hard to use for specific things usually just using it for spells |
| 21:12.17 | Adys | I mean.. DuTempete |
| 21:12.50 | Adys | No really, theres a couple of things that id like on Wowhead but thats why Skosiris is in here aint it? ;p |
| 21:12.58 | dotted | i must admit concerning spell searching thott is really good |
| 21:13.17 | dotted | for the rest, everything else its crap |
| 21:13.19 | Adys | Come on, add in the profile preferences this "dont filter uncategorized spells by default" thing |
| 21:13.25 | Adys | and yes, agreed dotted |
| 21:13.54 | DuGabarit | Damn, a poorly disguised jibe from Adys... and even worse, in French. |
| 21:14.34 | Adys | :P |
| 21:14.35 | Shadowed | I just want something that lets us filter out items that are faction vendor obtainable! Made it annoying trying to find Alchy recipes when half of them are faction recipes i don't care about |
| 21:15.08 | dotted | allakhazam has good char profiling - but kinda lacks on the guild info |
| 21:15.20 | Shadowed | CTProfile > All |
| 21:15.41 | DuGabarit | So where is Hobinheim, anyway? Is he the one who's entertaining a Czech this week? |
| 21:15.56 | DuGabarit | or was that Kirk? |
| 21:16.06 | dotted | CT* is crap, i hate everything CT, except screens which is nice (( |
| 21:16.09 | dotted | :((* |
| 21:16.11 | Teomyr | that was kirk, i think |
| 21:16.30 | DuGabarit | Ok, so then where the heck is Hobinheim? =P |
| 21:16.41 | DuGabarit | I wanna change my nick back! |
| 21:16.52 | Shadowed | CTProfiles is nice for finding out what item combos work best |
| 21:17.02 | DuGabarit | yes to my grammatically challanged nick, whatever. =P |
| 21:17.02 | dotted | hmm ye |
| 21:17.27 | Shadowed | and it really is the best and easiest to customize your items |
| 21:17.27 | Kitan|Work|Not_K | Hob was on earlier |
| 21:17.28 | Adys | interesting |
| 21:17.29 | Adys | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=668 |
| 21:17.46 | dotted | take the best from alla and the best from CTprofiles and put the wowhead name on it, and i think you have a winner :D |
| 21:17.47 | DuGabarit | I'm so dissapointed that you pointed that out to me, Adys... DuTempete is so much sexier than DeLaTempete... |
| 21:17.54 | Adys | Effect Language (7) |
| 21:18.05 | Shadowed | That makes sense |
| 21:18.10 | Adys | http://adys.stools.net/languages.txt it does |
| 21:18.17 | Adys | Im sorry DuGabarit |
| 21:18.23 | Adys | But two things |
| 21:18.28 | Teomyr | shame on you, adys! |
| 21:18.32 | Adys | 1/ DuTempete doesnt sound female at all |
| 21:18.39 | Adys | 2/ I didnt point it out |
| 21:18.44 | Adys | someone else did :P |
| 21:18.44 | Kitan|Work|Not_K | what is DeLaTempete anyway? |
| 21:18.54 | DuGabarit | omg... was it Teomyr? |
| 21:18.59 | DuGabarit | "of the Tempest" |
| 21:18.59 | Adys | "OfTheStorm" |
| 21:19.01 | Shadowed | No reason languages wouldn't be considered effects since you can change what you speak, and just because an NPC speaking in Orcish can't be understood by you, it doesn't mean somebody else will hear it |
| 21:19.10 | Hobinheim|work | kirkburn was entertaining a czech, not me |
| 21:19.12 | Teomyr | umm |
| 21:19.20 | Adys | actually no shadowed |
| 21:19.23 | Adys | since for example |
| 21:19.27 | Hobinheim|work | i'm at work, goofing off |
| 21:19.29 | Adys | Curse of Tongues changes your language |
| 21:19.33 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+o Hobinheim] by ChanServ |
| 21:19.41 | Hobinheim|work | thinking of the GREATEST MP3 PROGRAM EVER |
| 21:19.44 | DuGabarit | Oh, well I wanted to show you my new nick, Hobin... |
| 21:19.53 | Adys | maybe for example these spells are "buffs" |
| 21:19.54 | DuGabarit | I made it especially for you. |
| 21:19.56 | dotted | Shadowed http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=15494 |
| 21:20.01 | dotted | Ironfoe |
| 21:20.04 | Adys | that change the outcome of your stuff |
| 21:20.11 | DuGabarit | I had it all night last night, waiting for you to show up. |
| 21:20.15 | Adys | 6,Dwarvish,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,8323198 |
| 21:20.21 | Adys | let me guess |
| 21:20.31 | dotted | yes its 6 |
| 21:20.38 | Adys | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=11719 bingo :) |
| 21:20.44 | Adys | Effect #2 Apply Aura: Mod Language (8) |
| 21:21.01 | Shadowed | Hidden buff, by default it uses your factions one so Common or Orcish? |
| 21:21.18 | Adys | why by default? |
| 21:21.25 | Hobinheim|work | ok, what is it? |
| 21:21.27 | Adys | theres no "default" there |
| 21:21.32 | Adys | you just have the buff when you enter the game |
| 21:21.34 | DuGabarit | DuTEMPLATE!!!!!!! |
| 21:21.36 | Adys | LOL |
| 21:21.40 | DuGabarit | hehe |
| 21:21.40 | Adys | ~DuTempete |
| 21:21.45 | Adys | ah yes |
| 21:21.48 | Hobinheim|work | i don't get it? |
| 21:21.50 | Teomyr | :D |
| 21:21.57 | DuGabarit | lol, he forgot, Adys |
| 21:22.03 | Shadowed | Right, by default you have the buff for Common or Orcish |
| 21:22.22 | Teomyr | i think he doesn't get the reference to the word "gabarit" |
| 21:22.27 | DuGabarit | hehe |
| 21:22.32 | Adys | ~DuTempete |
| 21:22.34 | DuGabarit | Gabarit = Template |
| 21:22.42 | DuGabarit | infobot doesn't like you anymore. |
| 21:22.44 | Hobinheim|work | i don't get it.... |
| 21:22.46 | Adys | come on |
| 21:22.48 | DuGabarit | ~Adys |
| 21:22.50 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, adys is sorry because he sucks with styling and css |
| 21:22.55 | DuGabarit | HAHAHA |
| 21:22.56 | Hobinheim|work | wow |
| 21:22.57 | Hobinheim|work | ~Hob |
| 21:23.13 | Adys | bah |
| 21:23.16 | Adys | Infobot, DuTempete? |
| 21:23.19 | infobot | dutempete is, like, in fact DuTEMPLATE !!! Hahaha, I never forget anything, dear |
| 21:23.26 | Adys | see. |
| 21:23.27 | DuGabarit | lol that's cheating. |
| 21:23.42 | Adys | ~infobot |
| 21:23.44 | infobot | adys, i love abuse, feed me! |
| 21:23.55 | Adys | ~emulate kirkburn |
| 21:23.57 | infobot | Yes, Microsoft! Harder! |
| 21:24.01 | DuGabarit | HAHAHA |
| 21:24.03 | dotted | ~dotted |
| 21:24.08 | dotted | QQ |
| 21:24.10 | Teomyr | does emulate work for anyone? |
| 21:24.17 | Adys | nah has to be set |
| 21:24.24 | Adys | ~emulate infobot |
| 21:24.33 | Adys | <sadface> |
| 21:24.43 | Teomyr | ~emulate purl |
| 21:24.45 | infobot | ACTION tries to look like herself. |
| 21:24.54 | DuGabarit | oh, infobot is a chick, now? |
| 21:24.55 | Adys | lmao |
| 21:25.12 | Adys | infobot is purl's twin sister =) |
| 21:25.17 | Teomyr | we're being invaded |
| 21:25.19 | DuGabarit | uh huh... |
| 21:25.20 | Adys | LOL |
| 21:25.42 | Adys | heard that Kirkburn? Theres even more women then you thought there could ever be there! |
| 21:25.52 | DuGabarit | See, now if you want to get into grammatical correctness, that emote refers to infobot as the chic. |
| 21:26.04 | DuGabarit | *chick |
| 21:26.07 | Kirkburn | I'm wearing my suit for my sister's november wedding atm |
| 21:26.16 | DuGabarit | oooh, hot. |
| 21:26.25 | Kirkburn | Yarr =) |
| 21:26.29 | DuGabarit | Wait, didn't I hack all your gear last night? |
| 21:26.47 | Kirkburn | I told you, I went to find something to .... uh ... cover myself :) |
| 21:26.54 | Adys | ... |
| 21:27.05 | Adys | ~tekkub |
| 21:27.07 | infobot | from memory, tekkub is The author of many great and prominent addons, such as the original BigWigs design. He's been a long time figure in the Ace community, now recently switching to the new lighter, integrated library solution, Dongle. His personal site and SVN for non-Ace projects can be found at http://code.google.com/p/tekkub-wow/ |
| 21:27.25 | DuGabarit | oh jesus |
| 21:27.29 | Adys | jeez, pretencious |
| 21:27.35 | DuGabarit | SHAMELESS PLUG! |
| 21:27.37 | Kirkburn | Adys, to your earlier question ... yes, last night we proved that we sunk the Titanic. |
| 21:27.38 | clad|work | lol |
| 21:27.49 | DuGabarit | I proved it, actually. |
| 21:28.00 | Kirkburn | ^ true |
| 21:28.16 | DuGabarit | But I can't explain it now. It was such high intellectuallism that all of your brains would implode on hearing the divine logic. |
| 21:28.46 | Adys | :o |
| 21:29.03 | Kirkburn | Aye, tis the truth |
| 21:29.03 | DuGabarit | Just be happy with the apology. |
| 21:29.09 | Kirkburn | I can't remember any of it either |
| 21:29.13 | Kitan|Work|Not_K | ~Adys |
| 21:29.14 | infobot | well, adys is sorry because he sucks with styling and css |
| 21:29.27 | Adys | ~kirkburn |
| 21:29.29 | infobot | Kirkburn is the author of the funky font switchers, ClearFont and ClearFont2! |
| 21:29.37 | Adys | ha another pretencious git :P |
| 21:29.44 | Kirkburn | I could use the excuse thta it was adrunken haze, but DuGabarit stole my alcohol. |
| 21:29.54 | Adys | whats with putting the addons you write in infobot's data? |
| 21:30.02 | Kitan|Work|Not_K | also |
| 21:30.05 | Kitan|Work|Not_K | I like clearfont btw |
| 21:30.06 | Adys | I never put EnchantBot in my infobot data! |
| 21:30.08 | Kitan|Work|Not_K | sweet |
| 21:30.14 | Kitan|Work|Not_K | ~Kitan |
| 21:30.21 | Kitan|Work|Not_K | doe sit put something silly? |
| 21:30.24 | Kitan|Work|Not_K | for no info? |
| 21:30.25 | Kitan|Work|Not_K | nope |
| 21:30.29 | Kitan|Work|Not_K | too bad :) |
| 21:30.33 | Kirkburn | Kitan|Work|Not_K, why thank you :) |
| 21:31.07 | Kirkburn | ~Kitan |
| 21:31.09 | infobot | Remember, Kitan is not Kirkburn. |
| 21:31.25 | Adys | ~Adys |
| 21:31.28 | infobot | from memory, adys is sorry because he sucks with styling and css, or the author of EnchantBot. No, you don't have to care about that but people think they are cool when they make me tell you what addon they write. |
| 21:31.39 | Adys | perfect |
| 21:31.40 | Teomyr | lol |
| 21:31.40 | Kirkburn | loool |
| 21:31.44 | DuGabarit | lol |
| 21:31.45 | dotted | ahaha |
| 21:31.52 | Kirkburn | ~Kirkburn |
| 21:31.54 | infobot | Kirkburn is the author of the funky font switchers, ClearFont and ClearFont2! |
| 21:31.58 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 21:32.00 | Teomyr | ~Teomyr |
| 21:32.10 | Teomyr | nothing? how surprising! |
| 21:32.13 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 21:32.13 | dotted | Teomyr you fail just like me :( |
| 21:32.23 | dotted | we fail at infobot |
| 21:32.30 | dotted | im so sad |
| 21:32.34 | dotted | in both ways |
| 21:32.46 | Kirkburn | ~Teomyr |
| 21:32.48 | infobot | Meh. |
| 21:32.53 | DuGabarit | Hrmm... I was just trounced by the server for not being registered... how do I go about registering? |
| 21:33.13 | Kirkburn | Check freenode.net |
| 21:33.14 | Adys | Teomyyyyrrrr ! |
| 21:33.24 | dotted | ? |
| 21:33.28 | Adys | tell me something my dear (wow rhymes) |
| 21:33.30 | dotted | /msg nickserv register |
| 21:33.32 | Kirkburn | http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#registering |
| 21:33.32 | dotted | ? |
| 21:33.45 | Kirkburn | ~dotted |
| 21:33.49 | infobot | Meh |
| 21:33.59 | Adys | http://adys.stools.net/languages.txt - what do you guess are the other numbers? |
| 21:34.12 | Adys | see thats what i hate with blizz, they just dont have regulat stuff |
| 21:34.31 | Adys | this is languages.dbc converted to csv |
| 21:34.37 | Teomyr | maybe goblin or something like that |
| 21:34.58 | Adys | 4, 5, 15-32, 34 are missing |
| 21:35.07 | Teomyr | factions they considered to be playable, but discarded them |
| 21:35.10 | Adys | 33 is gutterspeak, 10 is thalassian, 35 is draenei |
| 21:35.15 | Teomyr | or temporary ones for testing |
| 21:35.18 | Adys | that makes people think |
| 21:35.35 | Adys | if 33 was already gutterspeak probably at the release |
| 21:35.47 | Adys | hm, i need an older version of languages.dbc |
| 21:35.50 | Adys | lets see |
| 21:35.53 | dotted | Adys or blizz just made alot of different word tables but was too lazy to make it look clean |
| 21:36.07 | dotted | after removing the discarded ones |
| 21:36.15 | Adys | ns, blizz is always fuckin lazy ont hat |
| 21:36.41 | Teomyr | no one sees these files anyway ;) |
| 21:36.46 | Adys | i do, ffs |
| 21:37.09 | Kitan|Work|Not_K | ffs? |
| 21:37.50 | Adys | lets see if i have an old one |
| 21:38.15 | dotted | Kitan|Work|Not_K you dont know what it means? |
| 21:38.31 | Teomyr | i had an old wow install on my other hdd |
| 21:38.57 | Teomyr | until that drive crashed -_- |
| 21:39.36 | Kitan|Work|Not_K | correct.. what does ffs mean? |
| 21:39.44 | dotted | for fuck sake |
| 21:39.50 | Kitan|Work|Not_K | heh |
| 21:40.00 | Kitan|Work|Not_K | yeah I wouldn't have guessed that :) |
| 21:40.08 | dotted | :) |
| 21:40.12 | Adys | I did have to guess it oO |
| 21:40.31 | Adys | lets see |
| 21:40.37 | Adys | i got 1.3.0's Patch.MPQ |
| 21:40.56 | *** join/#wowwiki Antono (n=chatzill@ppp181-181.adsl.forthnet.gr) |
| 21:41.02 | Adys | haha, guess what |
| 21:41.07 | Adys | awesome, sec |
| 21:41.34 | Adys | teomyr |
| 21:41.55 | dotted | Adys ok i give up, what is it? |
| 21:42.02 | Adys | mm? |
| 21:42.15 | Adys | compare |
| 21:42.16 | Adys | http://adys.stools.net/languages-130.txt |
| 21:42.19 | Adys | http://adys.stools.net/languages.txt |
| 21:42.47 | Teomyr | mhh |
| 21:42.47 | Adys | what the hell is the last field anyways |
| 21:42.49 | dotted | Thelassian |
| 21:43.07 | Adys | http://adys.stools.net/languages-130.txt is from 1.3.0's Patch.MPQ |
| 21:43.14 | Adys | so that also means it changed since the release |
| 21:44.13 | Adys | http://www.sourcepeek.com/wiki/Languages.dbc meh |
| 21:44.15 | Teomyr | adys, which tool are you using to convert the files? |
| 21:44.21 | Adys | mwcs |
| 21:44.31 | Adys | Export as CSV, and saving as txt |
| 21:44.43 | Teomyr | that file only has so many fields because of localization |
| 21:44.55 | Adys | yes but whats the last one? |
| 21:45.03 | dotted | is there an offical homepage for that? or do you have to rely on creepy chinese sites? |
| 21:45.11 | Teomyr | a bitmask, supposedly, but for what? |
| 21:45.30 | Adys | in 130, its all 7274526, except Gutterspeak |
| 21:45.57 | Adys | and in 2.0.12, its all 8323198 except Gutterspeak and Draenei, which are identic |
| 21:46.18 | Adys | on that note, remember gutterspeak was added late in the betas, since undead were originally able to speak Common and Orcish |
| 21:46.28 | Adys | Gutterspeak is 33, Draenei 35 |
| 21:46.42 | Adys | I think thats just interesting :P |
| 21:47.29 | *** join/#wowwiki Kaos_ (n=Kaos@vir78-1-82-230-45-137.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 21:47.48 | Teomyr | crappy mwcs, only works correctly on enXX versions |
| 21:47.55 | dotted | could be an odd form of timestamp? |
| 21:48.22 | Adys | teo, you want the file? |
| 21:48.26 | Adys | i can upload it |
| 21:48.35 | Teomyr | no, thanks, i have the enGB one |
| 21:48.39 | Adys | ah kk |
| 21:48.45 | Teomyr | but i wanted to show the deDE one for comparison |
| 21:48.48 | Adys | the one from 1.3.0? :P |
| 21:48.54 | Teomyr | but it doesn't do the string lookup correctly |
| 21:49.08 | Adys | try copypaste or something? |
| 21:49.10 | Adys | oh wait, nvm |
| 21:49.49 | Teomyr | http://vs157092.vserver.de/wow/Languages.txt |
| 21:50.03 | Adys | is it empty? |
| 21:50.09 | Teomyr | this is what mwcs makes out of the current deDE file |
| 21:50.17 | Adys | :/ sucks |
| 21:50.19 | Teomyr | no, but it uses the wrong field for string lookups |
| 21:50.29 | Adys | what version you got? |
| 21:50.43 | Teomyr | 0.10.6337 |
| 21:51.06 | Adys | hm same |
| 21:51.58 | Adys | try a simple dbc->csv |
| 21:53.15 | Teomyr | doesn't work |
| 21:53.23 | Teomyr | that's what i did |
| 21:53.36 | Kitan|Work|Not_K | heading home all |
| 21:53.38 | Kitan|Work|Not_K | ater |
| 21:53.41 | Kitan|Work|Not_K | later too |
| 21:53.43 | Adys | laters |
| 21:53.44 | Teomyr | cya |
| 21:54.32 | Adys | ooh |
| 21:54.35 | Adys | i do have the frFR version |
| 21:54.36 | Adys | forgot that |
| 21:55.33 | Adys | hm same,empty row :/ |
| 21:57.06 | Adys | got it |
| 21:57.13 | Adys | extracted and converted to txt |
| 21:57.18 | Adys | manually >.> |
| 21:57.42 | Adys | Orc?Darnassien?Taurahe?Nain?Commun?Démoniaque?Titan?Thalassien?Draconique?Kalimag?Gnome?Troll?Bas-parler?Draeneï? |
| 21:58.12 | Teomyr | bas-parler, lol |
| 21:58.18 | Adys | thats gutterspeak |
| 21:58.35 | Teomyr | yes, i figured. that's a nearly literal translation, isn't it? :P |
| 21:58.37 | Adys | Orc/Darnassian/Taurahe/Dwarvish/Common/Demonic (Démoniaque)/Titan/Thalassien (makes sense in french)/Draconic/Kalimag/Gnome/Troll/Gutterspeak/Draenei (I would guess Draeneï |
| 21:58.51 | Adys | uhm, nfc what "gutter" means tbh |
| 21:59.27 | Adys | now i think about it.. |
| 22:00.33 | *** join/#wowwiki Kaos___ (n=Kaos@vir78-1-82-230-45-137.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 22:00.36 | Adys | "Lower Speaking" kindof |
| 22:00.36 | Teomyr | i do not envy blizzard's localization team for having to deal with this crappy file format :/ |
| 22:00.50 | Adys | LOL |
| 22:00.57 | Adys | memorable quote |
| 22:01.07 | Teomyr | :P |
| 22:01.23 | Teomyr | well, they probably have tools that make it less painful |
| 22:01.45 | Adys | wtb that |
| 22:01.49 | Adys | teo btw |
| 22:02.04 | Adys | argh gotta find it |
| 22:03.15 | Gryphen | odd first edit, http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?diff=582308 |
| 22:04.00 | Adys | teomyr: http://adys.stools.net/Silvermoon_City_01.png |
| 22:04.26 | DuTempete | Why would you edit that at all? |
| 22:04.32 | Adys | yes gryph indeed |
| 22:04.49 | Adys | rolled it back |
| 22:04.51 | Adys | not like it hurts |
| 22:05.04 | Adys | ah kirk got it |
| 22:05.10 | DuTempete | Looks like a lame attempt at vandalism, if you ask me. |
| 22:05.17 | Kirkburn | Major alchemy changes - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/04/11/more-on-alchemy-changes/ |
| 22:05.23 | Teomyr | what is that, adys? |
| 22:05.32 | Adys | thats from one of their wow insiders |
| 22:05.38 | Adys | Anatomy of a City:Silvermoon iirc |
| 22:05.53 | Adys | i even made a wowwiki article about it |
| 22:05.59 | Adys | [[Anatomy of a City: Silvermoon]] |
| 22:06.04 | Adys | anyways aint the point |
| 22:06.11 | Adys | it seems to be the tool they use for wmo edit |
| 22:06.36 | Teomyr | ah |
| 22:06.38 | DuTempete | brb guys |
| 22:08.31 | Teomyr | http://www.wow-europe.com/shared/wow-com/images/misc/wowinsider/wowi10/ss5.jpg |
| 22:08.42 | Adys | yes |
| 22:08.43 | Teomyr | <<Tighten graphics>> lol |
| 22:09.06 | Adys | i zoomed it up and rewrote the stuff to try and see what app they were using |
| 22:10.28 | Adys | http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/index?id=5659302&siteID=123112 |
| 22:10.30 | winkiller | uhm, anyone got an idea why Eitrigg in Thrall's Chamber has vanished? |
| 22:10.40 | Teomyr | it's more likely "NXN Alienbrain" http://www.alienbrain.com/ |
| 22:10.57 | Kirkburn | Adys, yup |
| 22:10.59 | Adys | Im pretty sure its autodesk |
| 22:11.05 | Teomyr | winkiller: no idea, but the name sounds funny |
| 22:11.10 | Adys | tho there has to be some alienbrain addon |
| 22:11.19 | winkiller | ah, disappearing nopc bug again |
| 22:11.31 | Adys | I remember looking at the price of a network license |
| 22:11.40 | Adys | and thinking "no wonder their servers are shit after that" |
| 22:11.42 | winkiller | Teomyr: well, one of the *french* servers is named after him - imagine the pronunciation |
| 22:11.50 | Teomyr | haha |
| 22:11.51 | Kirkburn | You can see they've got it on a network license |
| 22:11.56 | Adys | yes :P |
| 22:11.59 | *** join/#wowwiki Du_Tempete (n=chatzill@c-69-243-137-249.hsd1.in.comcast.net) |
| 22:11.59 | Kirkburn | Damn, I write too slowly |
| 22:12.13 | Adys | Du? |
| 22:12.14 | Adys | lol |
| 22:12.30 | Adys | http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/index?siteID=123112&id=5679449&linkID=5573082 :) |
| 22:12.56 | Adys | $3500 for a simple license |
| 22:13.16 | DuTempete | Moved to my PC, had to do a fresh install of the IRC client |
| 22:13.31 | Teomyr | crazy prices |
| 22:14.24 | Teomyr | but i won't need these programs anyway. blender provides enough frustration about not knowing wtf i'm doing :P |
| 22:15.37 | Adys | i got really tempted buying it |
| 22:15.42 | Adys | but come on, 3500 dollars |
| 22:17.07 | Adys | http://www.alienbrain.com/purchase/europe.html.php is it bad if you need to contact them to get informations about the price? |
| 22:17.09 | Adys | I think so |
| 22:17.18 | Teomyr | yes |
| 22:17.55 | Adys | 'At this point, you are probably not ready to hear about the price yet. Contact us, let us tell you about how great our product is and let us introduce you to our incredible price.' |
| 22:17.55 | Kirkburn | *cough*informations*cough* |
| 22:18.10 | Teomyr | lol |
| 22:19.32 | dotted | no |
| 22:19.56 | Teomyr | http://tightgraphs.ytmnd.com/ |
| 22:20.11 | Adys | did you just do that :P |
| 22:20.16 | dotted | thank god |
| 22:20.24 | Adys | lol |
| 22:20.37 | Kirkburn | Btw, a little bit of news: |
| 22:20.39 | Kirkburn | R.I.P. PlayStation 3 20GB |
| 22:20.39 | Kirkburn | Nov. 17, 2006 -- April 11, 2007 |
| 22:21.12 | Adys | mm? |
| 22:21.27 | Kirkburn | They've stopped making the 20GB version for the US |
| 22:21.32 | Adys | hah |
| 22:21.52 | Teomyr | lol http://tightengraphics.ytmnsfw.com/ |
| 22:22.21 | Teomyr | btw 20gb sounds ridiculously small today |
| 22:22.27 | Kirkburn | Teomyr, LOL |
| 22:23.02 | Adys | lol, wth |
| 22:25.58 | Shadowed | The sound matches suprisingly well with the lip movements |
| 22:27.31 | DuTempete | Ok, I finally just added to http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#Cosmos_on_the_Main_Page |
| 22:27.44 | Adys | Im not even going there |
| 22:27.52 | DuTempete | Pretty much what I said last night, and another suggestion |
| 22:27.55 | DuTempete | hehe |
| 22:28.00 | Adys | im just with kirk on that one |
| 22:28.05 | Adys | main page is for wiki navigation |
| 22:28.16 | Adys | its not a place to do advertising for cosmos and shit |
| 22:28.17 | DuTempete | *nod* As far as I'm concerned it's just a plea for attention. |
| 22:28.18 | Kirkburn | Wow at this, you have /got/ to listen to this: http://homophobelol.ytmnd.com/ |
| 22:30.22 | Teomyr | http://eeuauaughhhuauaahh.ytmnd.com/ |
| 22:30.58 | Adys | speaking about sound matching the lip movements |
| 22:31.00 | Adys | lol |
| 22:31.37 | Kirkburn | http://shockingcats.ytmnd.com/ ... make sure you reload it once it's finished |
| 22:31.51 | DuTempete | hot damn, kirk |
| 22:31.57 | DuTempete | that's awesome |
| 22:32.20 | Kirkburn | DuTempete, best response to it I've /ever/ heard |
| 22:32.42 | Adys | :/ i dont get it |
| 22:33.28 | DuTempete | No kidding. I'm taking notes n shiz! |
| 22:33.48 | Kirkburn | You're talking about the http://homophobelol.ytmnd.com/ one? |
| 22:34.03 | DuTempete | And you're not going to fool me into thinking that there's actually an ending to shocking cats |
| 22:34.06 | DuTempete | yeap |
| 22:34.15 | Adys | LOL |
| 22:34.22 | Adys | I was a bit off, sorry |
| 22:34.22 | Kirkburn | I can see why it might be hard to understand, but listen to it a few times, it's all about quoting the Bible |
| 22:34.45 | DuTempete | Everything he mentions is an old testament law |
| 22:35.03 | DuTempete | down to the slavery, stoning, burning, all of it |
| 22:35.26 | Adys | STOP VOTING ON AMPWOW, damnit :P |
| 22:35.29 | Adys | the vote is closed |
| 22:35.38 | DuTempete | lol |
| 22:35.44 | dotted | no |
| 22:35.54 | dotted | vote more plix plix |
| 22:36.35 | *** join/#wowwiki ggilbert (n=ggilbert@tinman.treke.net) |
| 22:36.57 | Adys | Allakhazam is now Vote/Closing |
| 22:37.07 | Kirkburn | The Fresh Hummingbird of Bel-Air: http://belairianhummingbird.ytmnd.com/ |
| 22:38.24 | DuTempete | Hey, I was just heading over ther eto vote on it, Adys =P |
| 22:38.32 | Adys | :P |
| 22:38.35 | DuTempete | And I was going to vote keep =P |
| 22:38.41 | Adys | No you wont! |
| 22:38.59 | Adys | dont make me rollback my vote/closing, will ya? <puppy eyes> |
| 22:39.01 | DuTempete | will too! |
| 22:39.06 | DuTempete | sorry |
| 22:39.09 | DuTempete | but i think it should stay |
| 22:39.10 | Adys | :( |
| 22:39.26 | Adys | well then dont forget to put back to vote/vote :P |
| 22:39.56 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Lessthan1337 lol |
| 22:40.23 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:User_AntiBE awesome |
| 22:42.17 | Adys | aha :) |
| 22:42.40 | Adys | found a very good way to subst a template inside a subst'd template, without subst'ing the first template |
| 22:42.44 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=User:Adys/Welcome&action=edit maybe this speaks more to you |
| 22:44.13 | Adys | whats the html code for ~ ? |
| 22:44.15 | Adys | kirkburn |
| 22:44.58 | Kirkburn | adys |
| 22:45.03 | Adys | whats the html code for ~ ? :P |
| 22:45.14 | Kirkburn | No idea |
| 22:45.19 | Adys | you are so useless |
| 22:45.31 | sancus | I bet google knows |
| 22:45.40 | Adys | cba |
| 22:45.46 | Kirkburn | %7E |
| 22:45.50 | sancus | stupid lazy euro |
| 22:46.01 | Kirkburn | You could have used the wiki to find out |
| 22:46.06 | Adys | --~~<includeonly>~</includeonly><noinclude><nowiki>~</nowiki></noinclude>~ |
| 22:46.16 | Adys | here is playing with wiki tags |
| 22:46.18 | Adys | melike |
| 22:46.21 | Kirkburn | Put ~ in a title, then find out what the "Article" bit links to |
| 22:46.25 | Adys | y true |
| 22:46.30 | sancus | . . . |
| 22:46.46 | Kirkburn | Look at http://www.wowwiki.com/Main~Page |
| 22:46.47 | Adys | wait |
| 22:46.55 | Adys | %7E isnt an html code? :P |
| 22:46.55 | Kirkburn | Then look at the "Article" link |
| 22:47.02 | Teomyr | ˜ |
| 22:47.03 | DuTempete | gorramit, why isn't my sig loading?? |
| 22:47.05 | Teomyr | just guessing |
| 22:47.28 | Kirkburn | Oh that's a point |
| 22:47.31 | sancus | that's not the html entity btw |
| 22:47.33 | sancus | it's the uri code |
| 22:47.38 | Adys | lol |
| 22:47.45 | sancus | the html entity is ˜, shockingly |
| 22:47.48 | Adys | and ˜ exists, but |
| 22:47.52 | Adys | its not the same one |
| 22:47.54 | Kirkburn | Well, er, I'm sure my thing can be used somehow :) |
| 22:47.57 | Adys | ˜~ |
| 22:48.02 | Kirkburn | Ah |
| 22:48.16 | Teomyr | %7E is the hexadecimal notation used in URIs |
| 22:48.28 | Adys | who cares :P --~~<includeonly>~</includeonly><noinclude><nowiki>~</nowiki></noinclude>~ works fine |
| 22:49.14 | Kirkburn | http://dialuppipe.ytmnd.com/ |
| 22:49.19 | Adys | lol, this is so fucked up |
| 22:49.40 | Adys | what the hell kirk |
| 22:49.40 | DuTempete | hot damn, not a single ampwow keep? |
| 22:49.49 | Adys | one, DT, but it was too late |
| 22:49.52 | Adys | so I rolled it back |
| 22:50.23 | sancus | try ∼ |
| 22:51.36 | Adys | works, but different again |
| 22:51.37 | Adys | ~~ |
| 22:51.47 | infobot | Every moment in which I'm called upon is torture. |
| 22:51.47 | Adys | ha, looks same on irc |
| 22:51.55 | Adys | LOL |
| 22:52.03 | Kirkburn | hahaha |
| 22:52.21 | Adys | awesome |
| 22:52.24 | Adys | cookies for infobot |
| 22:52.34 | Kirkburn | ~~~ |
| 22:52.35 | infobot | I HATE YOU, kirkburn!!! |
| 22:52.39 | Adys | lmao |
| 22:52.51 | Kirkburn | ~~~~ |
| 22:52.52 | infobot | ARGH!!! STOP IT kirkburn!!! |
| 22:53.03 | Adys | ~~~~~~ |
| 22:53.05 | infobot | ACTION takes out a revolver and shoots adys in the head three times. |
| 22:53.11 | Teomyr | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
| 22:53.22 | Adys | you didnt think he had that many did you? |
| 22:53.45 | dotted | ~~~~~~~~ |
| 22:53.46 | infobot | You know, this got old a long time ago. |
| 22:54.02 | dotted | ~~~~~~~~~~ |
| 22:54.04 | Adys | how I love this bot |
| 22:54.16 | dotted | ~~~~~~~ |
| 22:54.19 | infobot | ACTION fires 3 more shots, as the first 3 didn't seem to have much effect. |
| 22:54.19 | Kirkburn | ~coconuts |
| 22:54.22 | infobot | I've got a lovely bunch of coconuts, there they are all standing in a row. Big ones, small ones, some as big as your head, give them a twist, a flick of the wrist, that's what the showman said! |
| 22:54.33 | dotted | ~~~~~ |
| 22:54.36 | infobot | grrrr |
| 22:54.40 | dotted | ~~~ |
| 22:54.42 | infobot | I HATE YOU, dotted!!! |
| 22:54.46 | dotted | ~ |
| 22:54.51 | Adys | ha. |
| 22:56.29 | dotted | ~christ |
| 22:56.31 | infobot | rumour has it, christ is less popular than the Beatles |
| 22:56.40 | dotted | lol |
| 22:56.54 | Adys | ~emulate pur |
| 22:56.56 | Adys | bah |
| 22:56.58 | Adys | ~emulate purl |
| 22:57.00 | infobot | ACTION tries to look like herself. |
| 22:57.07 | Teomyr | split personality |
| 22:57.14 | Adys | i cant believe infobot is female |
| 22:57.31 | Teomyr | a shocking discovery |
| 22:57.33 | Adys | Two days ago it was tek, then DuTemplate, now its infobot |
| 22:57.37 | DuTempete | Adys... why was Ampwow closed, but WoWhead isn't? It hasn't been 3 days. |
| 22:57.40 | Adys | tomorrow its gonna be me, I can feel it |
| 22:57.51 | DuTempete | Tekkub is a fellow chick? |
| 22:57.52 | Adys | eh? |
| 22:57.53 | Gryphen | ampwow was a day early |
| 22:57.59 | Tekkub | *sigh* |
| 22:58.00 | DuTempete | ah |
| 22:58.12 | Tekkub | Dut, yes, no |
| 22:58.20 | Adys | AmpWoW was on time |
| 22:58.21 | DuTempete | yes... no...? |
| 22:58.23 | Adys | its 3 days |
| 22:58.27 | DuTempete | My brain hurts. |
| 22:58.31 | Gryphen | 3 from lead, not start |
| 22:58.33 | DuTempete | It was started on the 8th or th 9th? |
| 22:58.41 | Kirkburn | http://uscosby.ytmnd.com/ |
| 22:58.41 | Tekkub | adys, tonight |
| 22:58.43 | Tekkub | :P |
| 22:58.43 | Gryphen | the 5 vote lead was 2 days ago |
| 22:58.46 | Adys | Oh damnit gryph |
| 22:58.48 | DuTempete | lol it was unanimous, Gryph. |
| 22:58.50 | Adys | true |
| 22:58.56 | Gryphen | i know what it was |
| 22:58.59 | Gryphen | just stating policy |
| 22:59.09 | DuTempete | it was in the lead the day it was started... |
| 22:59.09 | Tekkub | it's in like 5 hours |
| 22:59.30 | Adys | not like it matters anymore |
| 22:59.33 | Tekkub | needs 5 votes lead |
| 22:59.35 | DuTempete | and it WAS in the lead on the day it was started |
| 22:59.37 | Tekkub | :) |
| 22:59.42 | DuTempete | hehe |
| 22:59.54 | Tekkub | just wait a few hours, then noone can dispute it |
| 22:59.58 | Adys | y |
| 23:00.10 | Tekkub | adys... |
| 23:00.16 | Adys | yus |
| 23:00.21 | Tekkub | do your 'e' and 's' keys not work? :P |
| 23:00.27 | Adys | es? |
| 23:00.29 | DuTempete | hehe |
| 23:00.31 | Tekkub | y |
| 23:00.37 | Adys | they do, why? |
| 23:00.51 | Tekkub | jusnt checking |
| 23:00.55 | DuTempete | Ok.. Tekkub... you have to tell me what "yes, no" means, because I've already started imagining all sorts of thigns... |
| 23:01.02 | Adys | lol |
| 23:01.03 | Tekkub | fellow, chick |
| 23:01.17 | DuTempete | *sigh* |
| 23:01.32 | Adys | tekkub, whats up with my keyboard? :P |
| 23:01.47 | Tekkub | someday you'll figger it out |
| 23:02.01 | Adys | Is it my poor grammar again :/ |
| 23:02.13 | DuTempete | I thought it was MY poor grammar? |
| 23:02.20 | Adys | its MINE |
| 23:02.23 | Adys | ~grammar |
| 23:02.33 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, grammar is a system of pitfalls thoughtfully prepared for the feet for the self-made man, along the path by which he advances to distinction. |
| 23:02.49 | DuTempete | lol |
| 23:03.08 | DuTempete | infobot, who is Kirkburn? |
| 23:03.11 | infobot | DuTempete: I think you lost me on that one |
| 23:03.18 | DuTempete | damnit. |
| 23:03.29 | DuTempete | infobot, Kirkburn? |
| 23:03.31 | infobot | I heard his gear was hacked by DuTempete, and now he's chatting with us naked. |
| 23:05.27 | *** join/#wowwiki Radio (i=radio@cpe-74-75-44-10.maine.res.rr.com) |
| 23:05.55 | Adys | DuTemplate, not DuTempete |
| 23:06.48 | DuTempete | The template is on the wayside, by the way. I have a huge paper to write in a week. |
| 23:07.14 | *** join/#wowwiki Kirkburn (n=Kirkburn@84-45-141-44.no-dns-yet.enta.net) |
| 23:07.14 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+o Kirkburn] by ChanServ |
| 23:08.27 | Adys | I didn't think i'd get so many mature answers in such a short time on that thread |
| 23:08.32 | Adys | if you're bored at work, its a good read |
| 23:08.33 | Adys | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=273198025&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
| 23:08.42 | Adys | or if you're bored at all |
| 23:09.51 | DuTempete | Oh god... I don't want to get into that shit. |
| 23:10.02 | Adys | ^^ |
| 23:10.06 | Adys | its amusing |
| 23:10.16 | DuTempete | No, it gives me a headache. |
| 23:10.42 | DuTempete | Yes, WoW sucks. It sucked about 5 minutes into release. I just didn't figure that out until 6 months later. |
| 23:11.19 | DuTempete | I still think it sucks, but I play it because that's where my retard friends are hanging out these days. |
| 23:12.36 | DuTempete | If they see the light and move to another game, so will I. I won't have a single regret about it. I HATE blizard, and the thought of giving them my money makes me sick, but I'm content enough with that sacrifice just to know that I'll have somewhere to do something amusing for 5 minutes a day with my friends. |
| 23:13.27 | DuTempete | Participating in WoW Wiki doesn't exemplify my support of the game. Rather, it shows that I get the giggles from organization and writing. |
| 23:13.29 | sancus | wow is dying? |
| 23:13.40 | sancus | gee, I see a lot of writing there but no empirical evidence to support that claim :P |
| 23:14.21 | Radio | seems more like plateauing |
| 23:14.24 | sancus | I hate WoW myself and currently do not play |
| 23:14.48 | sancus | However, if you're going to say something like WoW is dying you better have some evidence to present and I don't see any there, just opinions on game mechanics |
| 23:15.00 | sancus | which is irrelevant |
| 23:16.00 | DuTempete | WoW sucks for people like me, because it caters to the players we least get along with. |
| 23:16.48 | DuTempete | And those hated players are exactly why I think WoW will be around for much longer than satisfies me. |
| 23:17.16 | Adys | sancus: ive put clearly my opinions on why wow is dying and is not going to get back on track, and how it could actually get back on track but why it wont happen |
| 23:17.25 | Adys | the rest its up to the other ppl not me |
| 23:18.10 | DuTempete | See what you've done, Adys? You've made me angry. :( |
| 23:18.16 | Adys | aw |
| 23:18.27 | DuTempete | I miss EQ. |
| 23:18.45 | DuTempete | At least, I miss what WAS EQ. |
| 23:19.16 | Kirkburn | Adys, I think perhaps "why WoW is dying" wasn't quite the point you wanted to get across, more "why might WoW lose customers" |
| 23:19.41 | Adys | losing customers en masse = losing community |
| 23:19.47 | Adys | losing community = game dying |
| 23:19.59 | sancus | Adys: That's not what I was saying |
| 23:20.12 | Kirkburn | Yes, but your title made it sound like that's what actually is occuring |
| 23:20.13 | sancus | I was saying that if you are going to make a claim, you need to back it up. |
| 23:20.14 | Adys | Seven major guilds disbanded on my server the past month, its more than just losing customers, its losing community there |
| 23:20.51 | sancus | Opinions NEVER count as backing anything up, and opinions without evidence are fairly useless. |
| 23:20.51 | Kirkburn | That's a server dying, not so much the game |
| 23:20.58 | Gryphen | You dont know they didn't gain 8 major guilds. |
| 23:20.59 | dotted | Adys what happened to the players? |
| 23:21.01 | DuTempete | I miss logging in and knowing that 50% of the people on my server weren't effing retards with no respect for other people and attention spans that rival a hamster's. |
| 23:21.06 | dotted | guilds are irrelevant |
| 23:21.14 | MatthewS | would those be major raiding guilds from pre-tbc days? |
| 23:21.15 | Adys | no, players quitting always come back |
| 23:21.25 | Adys | guilds with alot of people quitting and then disbanding makes people quit for good |
| 23:21.34 | Adys | own experience speaking there |
| 23:21.43 | Adys | a gdisband gets players quitting as a whole |
| 23:21.53 | Adys | and guilds are a big big part of the community |
| 23:21.57 | DuTempete | Aye, I know what you mean, Adys. |
| 23:22.05 | DuTempete | I've seen that, too. |
| 23:22.05 | sancus | I haven't come back yet and my guild is not dead :P |
| 23:22.18 | Adys | its obvious and non deniable that what keeps people playing are friends and guild |
| 23:22.26 | Adys | sancus you're odd :p |
| 23:22.36 | dotted | well it was to be expected that guilds would disband with BC, but new have formed aswell |
| 23:22.43 | Adys | hm, not really |
| 23:22.55 | dotted | yes r'y |
| 23:22.57 | Adys | smaller guilds reform sometimes |
| 23:22.59 | dotted | rly |
| 23:23.05 | sancus | what happened on your server doesnt really help much with your evidence issue, fwiw |
| 23:23.13 | Adys | fwiw? |
| 23:23.23 | DuTempete | for what its worth |
| 23:23.24 | sancus | for what it's worth |
| 23:23.32 | Adys | thats true |
| 23:23.39 | Adys | and thats probably why Im posting on realm forums :P |
| 23:23.51 | Adys | one of many reasons |
| 23:23.57 | Adys | I do think wow is dying as a whole |
| 23:24.13 | Adys | the reasons i brought up are valid throughout the game, not the server |
| 23:24.28 | DuTempete | I've really started wondering if its really just a generation difference. |
| 23:25.09 | Kirkburn | From my view, I think WoW is in the process of stabilising |
| 23:25.37 | dotted | agreed |
| 23:26.04 | Kirkburn | We've been used to new servers, etc all the time, so when that slows, it feels like it's going backwards |
| 23:26.07 | DuTempete | Players will always venture to different games. Its natural. But with the generation difference, at the time that WoW came back, a snowball started rolling downhill. |
| 23:26.31 | MatthewS | i kind of agree with kirk |
| 23:26.37 | MatthewS | the game feels like it's hitting it's stride |
| 23:26.55 | Kirkburn | Adys, you exicited about the new solo/small-group stuff? |
| 23:26.55 | DuTempete | The newer gamers started playing WoW, and these people were friends of the old school folks, who gradually played WoW more because their friends were there. |
| 23:27.06 | MatthewS | but i should also note that with tbc i gave up serious raiding content |
| 23:27.23 | Kirkburn | I never raid or instance, just doesn't interest me much |
| 23:27.27 | Adys | Kirkburn: I always look forward to any kind of new content, but I don't think this 2.1 small group stuff will work out |
| 23:27.46 | Kirkburn | Given my last line, you might note I'm of the opposite view :P |
| 23:27.52 | Adys | it reminds me more of the EP towers and Silithus pvp crap than the good content introduced in 1.10 |
| 23:27.54 | sancus | anyway |
| 23:28.03 | sancus | fuck wow, you should all be playing EVE |
| 23:28.04 | sancus | that is all. |
| 23:28.07 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 23:28.13 | Kirkburn | One day I shall get around to it |
| 23:28.17 | dotted | i hate eve |
| 23:28.28 | Kirkburn | I started playing Freelancer again last week |
| 23:28.37 | Kirkburn | What's the movement controls like in Eve? |
| 23:28.37 | sancus | <caveat> EVE is not for the average impatient mmo gamer</caveat> |
| 23:28.44 | Adys | eve is a great game imo |
| 23:28.45 | dotted | i mean sure eve have some qualities |
| 23:28.52 | sancus | eve is the best mmo in the market |
| 23:29.00 | Adys | its just lacking a real community |
| 23:29.02 | sancus | Kirkburn: point and click with some other things |
| 23:29.03 | Adys | its a much smaller one |
| 23:29.05 | sancus | say what |
| 23:29.07 | sancus | ??? |
| 23:29.07 | DuTempete | It's my opinion that if Blizz holds the principles they do about monitoring gameplay, then the game design should reflect that. As it has been, game design and Blizz principles are in conflict with each other. |
| 23:29.08 | dotted | but it doesnt feel very mmo'ish |
| 23:29.13 | sancus | eve has the biggest community in the mmo industry |
| 23:29.20 | Adys | no. |
| 23:29.22 | sancus | yep |
| 23:29.23 | Kirkburn | Biggest continuous one |
| 23:29.28 | Adys | What kirk said |
| 23:29.30 | sancus | WoW has a bunch of splintered communities that mostly ignore eachother |
| 23:29.34 | sancus | That's not really a community |
| 23:29.41 | DuTempete | Blizz behaves as if the community should monitor itself. |
| 23:29.42 | Adys | yes, but it is a wider one |
| 23:29.45 | sancus | so? |
| 23:29.52 | Adys | in eve, you wont find so many different players |
| 23:29.52 | Kirkburn | DuTempete, it damn well should =) |
| 23:30.05 | DuTempete | But the game design is built around controlling the community. Individualizing it. |
| 23:30.06 | sancus | you will find many more different players _that you can actually play with_, jeez |
| 23:30.11 | DuTempete | Aye, I agree with that, Kirk. |
| 23:30.15 | Adys | most players have the same tastes in games and will be similar |
| 23:30.18 | Kirkburn | I have no experience of EVE, so I cannot comment that much on it |
| 23:30.23 | sancus | just finding players who play but have absolutely nothing to do with you and who you will never play with is kinda pointless |
| 23:30.27 | Adys | what's awesome with wow is that you find really anything |
| 23:30.45 | DuTempete | Instances, small raiding parties, little or no valuable group outdoor content implies that Blizz doesn't want the community to BE a community. |
| 23:30.48 | Kirkburn | Afaik, EVE takes a while to get into, but the depth and power is amazing |
| 23:31.11 | sancus | the problem with EVE is that's it's a simulation, not a theme park |
| 23:31.22 | Kirkburn | WoW is more structured and more casual-friendly. Probably the important thing to realise is that's they're not really competing MMOs |
| 23:31.24 | sancus | Some people can't deal with the fact that they're playing a game that isn't going to be fun a lot of the time |
| 23:31.31 | sancus | hell, not some, lots of people |
| 23:31.42 | Adys | its not about the game |
| 23:31.44 | MatthewS | sure, why call it a game if it isn't? |
| 23:31.48 | MatthewS | call it work |
| 23:31.49 | DuTempete | That depends on what you define as "fun", Sancus |
| 23:31.50 | Kirkburn | In the same way the Wii isn't really competing with the PS3 |
| 23:31.54 | Adys | i dont really care about what i play if i can play it with my friends |
| 23:32.04 | sancus | When EVE _is_ fun, there is no comparable experience |
| 23:32.06 | Adys | hell i wouldnt be playing wow if so |
| 23:32.08 | DuTempete | I think you and I see "fun" as being something challanging, yes? |
| 23:32.09 | sancus | specifically because it isn't always fun |
| 23:32.35 | sancus | it's impossible to win big if you can't lose big |
| 23:32.39 | DuTempete | aye |
| 23:32.44 | Kirkburn | Sounds like raiding to me :P |
| 23:32.50 | MatthewS | :) |
| 23:32.52 | Adys | LOL |
| 23:32.56 | DuTempete | hehe |
| 23:33.01 | Kirkburn | Long haul, big build up, then huge reward at the end |
| 23:33.02 | Adys | kinda true |
| 23:33.03 | sancus | it sortof is |
| 23:33.07 | sancus | raiding is too homogeneous, though |
| 23:33.25 | sancus | That's the way EVE is in every single aspect of all the like two dozen different types of gameplay there is |
| 23:33.43 | MatthewS | sounds like a specialized environment |
| 23:33.48 | sancus | it is |
| 23:33.58 | sancus | There's a reason it only has ~180k subs |
| 23:34.15 | DuTempete | Raiding in WoW feels like the devs just wanted to throw whatever they could at us. The bosses just seem like copies of another boss. |
| 23:34.19 | dotted | totalbiscuit made a "comparison" between eve and wow, and he have some good points in why eve is bad - such as being a capitalistic game, you can become so insanely powerful it aint fun anymore, or you can loose everythin in an instant. while there is a safety net in wow, thus making it more casual friendly |
| 23:34.20 | Adys | 180 000 subscribers, smaller and tighter community |
| 23:34.21 | sancus | But if you can tolerate that, it rewards you so much more than any other mmo |
| 23:34.30 | sancus | WoW doesn't have any history |
| 23:34.33 | sancus | EVE does |
| 23:34.48 | dotted | i do like eve's community tho |
| 23:34.50 | sancus | WoW has no real market, EVE does, EVE has wars, it has social upheaval and depth, and politics |
| 23:34.59 | sancus | WoW doesn't have any of those things |
| 23:35.07 | Kirkburn | Woah ... Facebook is ranked 22 on Alexa |
| 23:35.08 | DuTempete | I had always felt that in EQ, each boss was an individual, and that the boss's abilities/script were designed in a fluid, purposeful manner. |
| 23:35.17 | sancus | Kirkburn: yeah but ORKUT is fucking 8. ORKUT. |
| 23:35.38 | Kirkburn | Isn't that the almost exclusively Brazilian one? |
| 23:35.38 | dotted | sancus no because it doesnt fit in a game like wow |
| 23:35.47 | sancus | it's google's social networking thing :P |
| 23:35.54 | sancus | just lots of brazilians use it... for some reason |
| 23:36.03 | DuTempete | why wouldn't that fit into WoW, dotted? |
| 23:36.17 | sancus | it would fit into WoW if WoW was actually WoW |
| 23:36.21 | sancus | instead it's World of Disneyland |
| 23:36.25 | sancus | there isnt any warcraft in WoW :P |
| 23:36.35 | dotted | idd |
| 23:36.40 | DuTempete | Last time I checked, Warcraft has IMMENSE lore on wars and political agenda. |
| 23:36.45 | Adys | i disagree, it wouldnt fit in wow |
| 23:36.51 | Adys | its the bad place for it |
| 23:36.54 | sancus | DuTempete: it totally does |
| 23:37.10 | Adys | lore would never be written on what happens on servers etc |
| 23:37.10 | sancus | DuTempete: The thing is that they relegated it to entirely passive in WoW where the players cannot participate or affect anything |
| 23:37.27 | DuTempete | So, are you both saying that it doesn't fit into Warcraft, or that it doesn't fit into what WoW was designed to be? |
| 23:37.28 | Adys | besides, having only one server helps immensly having <one> history |
| 23:37.40 | sancus | I'm saying it doesn't fit in WoW, it fits in Warcraft very well |
| 23:37.45 | sancus | but WoW has nothing to do with Warcraft really |
| 23:37.50 | sancus | aside from stealing the setting for its popularity |
| 23:38.07 | Kirkburn | Ahem ... everyone on Facebook, join the WoWWiki Addicts group |
| 23:38.14 | sancus | Fuck that :P |
| 23:38.15 | Kirkburn | We've got 15 members now apparently |
| 23:38.22 | DuTempete | bleh... facebook... |
| 23:38.43 | sancus | Blizzard probably couldn't have designed WoW anything like EVE though, although maybe |
| 23:38.50 | sancus | they would not have made nearly as much money, in any case |
| 23:38.54 | DuTempete | I'm sorry, but I don't want any potential business colleagues to know who my friends are, and what I do in my free time. |
| 23:38.54 | Kirkburn | I want to see your faces! |
| 23:39.08 | MatthewS | that's linkedin, not facebook |
| 23:39.09 | sancus | EVE is probably not sustainable with a playerbase even 1/4 the size of WoW's |
| 23:39.17 | Adys | in the end it is about making money |
| 23:39.21 | Adys | blizzard won |
| 23:39.25 | sancus | it's not about making money |
| 23:39.29 | Adys | even if their game is shit and dying, blizzard won |
| 23:39.30 | sancus | EVE doesn't exist to make money |
| 23:39.36 | DuTempete | And the last person I want knowing what I look like is Kirkburn... |
| 23:39.38 | Adys | yes but wow does. |
| 23:39.39 | Kirkburn | And I'm sorry, but my picture is so much more awesome than anyone elses |
| 23:39.42 | *** join/#wowwiki _dok3Dal (n=dok@AStrasbourg-251-1-44-47.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 23:39.45 | DuTempete | To Blizzard, it IS about making money. |
| 23:39.47 | Kirkburn | Even Adys' |
| 23:39.52 | sancus | Kirkburn: you know my name, I'm sure you can find me if you like |
| 23:40.12 | sancus | DuTempete: And psht, you get jobs THROUGH friends and what you do in your free time, duh :P |
| 23:40.25 | Adys | im not putting up my pic |
| 23:40.40 | sancus | Kirkburn: I refuse to join a WoW addicts group for obvious reasons, though :p |
| 23:40.49 | Adys | lol |
| 23:40.58 | Kirkburn | WoWWiki not, WoW :) |
| 23:41.22 | sancus | Anyway, I realize that it's about making money to Blizzard, which is why this is all nonsensical theorycraft |
| 23:41.23 | Kirkburn | Ecological Interface Design? |
| 23:41.32 | dotted | EVE might get totally awesome when you can walk around with your charecter |
| 23:41.46 | sancus | To CCP, it was about making the game they wanted to play |
| 23:42.32 | sancus | They probably don't even want more than 200-300k subscribers, because it's already a much larger technical challenge than anything facing Blizzard keeping their cluster up |
| 23:43.10 | sancus | and if they sharded, then it's pretty much all over |
| 23:43.31 | sancus | Kirkburn: fine invite me if you want :P |
| 23:43.42 | Kirkburn | (ignore my last line, apparently that was by /John/ Hajduksomething) |
| 23:44.03 | sancus | you can friend me in any case |
| 23:44.13 | dotted | i wanna be an addict aswell |
| 23:44.22 | sancus | not sure what you can see without being friended, but I'm pretty obvious seeing as I'm in a few Mozilla groups |
| 23:44.37 | Kirkburn | I can see your pic :) |
| 23:44.44 | sancus | gratz2u |
| 23:44.51 | Kirkburn | woot |
| 23:45.30 | sancus | I should really probably update that pic |
| 23:45.33 | sancus | it's getting a bit old |
| 23:45.33 | Kirkburn | Vlad on there? |
| 23:45.36 | DuTempete | sancus, I can get allt he contacts and friends I need for business related ventures w/o joining Facebook. |
| 23:45.56 | Kirkburn | I guess I should have searched before asking |
| 23:46.01 | Kirkburn | (He is) |
| 23:46.07 | sancus | yep |
| 23:47.20 | DuTempete | okies, I'm away for a bit to go play with my puppy. He's taken to pulling my clothes out of my bedroom to get my attention. |
| 23:47.25 | Kirkburn | I approve of your TV shows choices |
| 23:47.35 | Kirkburn | Apart from Stargate, identical to mine |
| 23:48.00 | Kirkburn | DuTempete, aww |
| 23:48.23 | sancus | DuTempete: That wasnt really my point, just that separating business and personal stuff is SO outdated |
| 23:48.26 | Kirkburn | Books, however, not heard of /any/ of them |
| 23:49.10 | sancus | that's a pretty brief list |
| 23:49.18 | sancus | Also a little out of date, but meh |
| 23:50.45 | Kirkburn | Anyhoo, enough of stalking |
| 23:51.29 | Kirkburn | Yay, another episode of House to watch tomorrow |
| 23:51.40 | DuTempete | I'm a teacher. Separating business and personal stuff is NECESSARY. |
| 23:51.58 | Kirkburn | Ooh, well that's different |
| 23:52.28 | Kirkburn | What do you teach, if I may ask? |
| 23:52.46 | DuTempete | The last thing many parents in the US want to know is that a bi-sexual, ex-pot-smoking, goth/hippy liberal is teachign their students. |
| 23:52.57 | DuTempete | guess... |
| 23:52.59 | Kirkburn | I reckon the students would LOVE it however |
| 23:53.03 | DuTempete | of course. |
| 23:53.17 | Kirkburn | Something artsy |
| 23:53.20 | DuTempete | english :) |
| 23:53.49 | DuTempete | Hell, nowadays, I think the administration would come down harder on me than most of the parents would. |
| 23:53.52 | Kirkburn | Does the school know?! :O :P |
| 23:54.10 | Kirkburn | Ah, that answered that question :) |
| 23:54.10 | DuTempete | FUCK NO! |
| 23:54.17 | DuTempete | hehe |
| 23:54.37 | DuTempete | tattoos and piercings are still taboo |
| 23:54.42 | Kirkburn | Which school is it, and where can I apply? :P |
| 23:54.44 | DuTempete | according do the admin |
| 23:54.57 | Kirkburn | yeech |
| 23:55.03 | MatthewS | copious use of masking cream? |
| 23:55.03 | DuTempete | hehe well I'm still a student... but I do work-study at a local elementary |
| 23:55.16 | DuTempete | long-sleeve shirts. =P |
| 23:55.34 | DuTempete | Oh, did I forget to mention Pagan, too? =P |
| 23:56.12 | Kirkburn | And there was me thinking you were a puritanical christian |
| 23:56.15 | DuTempete | But I love kids, I was born to teach, and if I couldn't teach, I would be a full-time writer. |
| 23:56.21 | Adys | ha |
| 23:56.47 | sancus | You don't have to write all that stuff in your facebook entry, all my dark secrets certainly aren't on there ::P |
| 23:56.48 | MatthewS | so the shock would be even greater because half your students/coworkers assume you're really stuffy from the clothes you wear? :P |
| 23:56.52 | DuTempete | Yes, Kirk, but I wear my bonnet slighty askew. =P |
| 23:56.53 | sancus | I doubt you'll be fired for being in a WoW group though! |
| 23:57.36 | DuTempete | Anyway... back to playing with the puppy... |
| 23:58.00 | Kirkburn | Is it abi-sexual, ex-pot-smoking, goth/hippy liberal, pagan puppy? |
| 23:58.52 | Kirkburn | (hmm, abi-sexual ... Someone who only like people called Abi?) |
