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00:05.53Kitanhello everyone
00:06.00kasohi
00:06.35KitanI am having some problems connecting to the wiki.
00:06.37Kitanyay
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00:08.33KitanI was considering running my bot tonight... but that seems unlikely
00:09.52KirkburnKitan, heya
00:09.59KirkburnYeah, patch day = bad day
00:10.15KirkburnTomorrow will be the same
00:10.35KirkburnTomorrow evening might be better, so you may have a chance then
00:10.39Kitanok
00:10.54Kitanwhy is that?
00:10.54KirkburnThen I can look at it and flag it :)
00:11.01Kitanother bots updating things based off of the patch?
00:11.11KirkburnSince the servers are down, lots of people want to look at the wiki
00:11.16Kitanflag it?
00:11.17KirkburnEspecially the patch mirrors page
00:11.24Kitanahh
00:11.24KirkburnFlag the bot as a bot
00:11.24Kitanok
00:11.27KitanI was confused
00:11.38Kirkburn=)
00:11.41Kitanit isn't flagged?  It has the bot text on User:KitanBot
00:12.06Kitanok.. well that is good to know about patch day then
00:12.53KitanI asked on the village pump if it would be appropriate for me to keep a list of pages I modded with the bot... per each change.  e.g. the Quality update.
00:13.14KitanI understand that Contributions keeps track of it but wasn't sure if it would be useful if I did.
00:13.26KirkburnYou do anything you want in your own User space
00:13.32Kitanok
00:14.45KirkburnWhen I 'flag' it (change a setting) it will hide all Kitanbot's edits from the Recent Changes list
00:19.12Kitanok
00:19.28KitanI made an assumption based on what was put on the User page for it that you had flagged it. :)
00:20.04KirkburnNope, not yet
00:20.10KirkburnI'm off to bed
00:20.14Kitanthanks
00:20.15KirkburnTtyl
00:20.15Kitangood night
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03:05.15vlad_Jewelcrafting_Recipes = :(
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03:28.10Bagginswwsigh, its been like 5 weeks and I still can't find people willing to help with the rep grind needed to get heroic keys :p
03:28.25Bagginswwthere has been a real shortage on tanks :p
03:28.49BagginswwI'm getting left behind by others in my guild who already have their heroic keys :p
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05:43.40JunkHead-WorkHello.
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08:53.09Adyslo peeps
08:53.28Bleeterheya adys
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09:12.59Adysheya teo
09:16.24Teomyrmorning!
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10:00.39Kirkburn|afkvlad_, why did you mention a page earlier?
10:00.57Kirkburn|afkHuge load?
10:01.08KirkburnMorning all :)
10:01.15Adysalo kirk
10:01.32KirkburnFor those that didn't see - <vlad_> Jewelcrafting_Recipes = :(
10:01.43Kirkburn7 hours ago :P
10:02.20Adys~seen vlad_
10:02.23infobotvlad_ is currently on #wowwiki (6h 57m 19s). Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 6h 57m 8s, last said: 'Jewelcrafting_Recipes = :('.
10:06.32KirkburnLovely
10:06.32MikkI didn't say _in_, damnit
10:15.28KirkburnMikk, what addons do you use?
10:16.55JunkHead-Work-Well that wa sa strange phone call...
10:17.26JunkHead-Work-was a*
10:21.51Teomyryou know what would be cool? http://vs157092.vserver.de/wow/whww.png :P
10:25.39Adyslol
10:26.10Teomyrmuch closer integration between wowhead+wowwiki :D
10:26.21KirkburnJunkHead-Work-, ?
10:31.45MikkKirkburn: Umm... lots? o.O
10:32.08MikkNo actionbar addons though. I hate being unable to play when some addon keels over.
10:32.13KirkburnJust wond'rin. I haven't played in over 3 weeks
10:32.37KirkburnWhat UF addon?
10:32.41MikkNone
10:32.58MikkWell, I use Mobhealth3_BlizzardFrames to see their health, but that's just an overlay text
10:52.05Bibiwhere are you supposed to get messages on the wiki ? :/
10:52.44Bibijust got woke up by my brother who said "you've got message on wowwiki i think i messed up with something", but can't find them.
10:52.54Bibi(interesting life i've got.)
10:52.59Shirikif you had any "messages" it would be on your talk page
10:53.06Shirikbut... more than likely he meant like some error message
10:53.11Shirikwhich... not much you can do about it :P
10:53.31Bibinop, was on my talk page actually
10:54.03Bibiah ah, fun.
10:54.35Bibihe spent the morning bumping my site on the mirror page, which also explains the mistery of my download server crashing twice in the morning
10:54.50Shirikhaha
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10:55.27Apollozeus-_-
10:55.32Apollozeusdamn gnomeregan
10:55.38Bibiand since i'm too lazy to find how to reply, public apologies to whoever was annoyed by this.
10:55.47Shirikjust edit your talk page
10:56.01Shirikand sign the comment with ~~~~
10:57.48KirkburnBibi, indeed, please make sure no-one bumps it again
10:58.27Bibiyeah i'll just remove it actually, it wasn't supposed to be on wowwiki
10:58.33Bibimy download server can't handle such a high traffic
10:59.03Bibimy connection will crash in 5 sec.
10:59.05Bibibrb
10:59.07Shirikheh
10:59.19Shirikthat wasn't me, for the record ><
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10:59.57Bibiso, as i said
11:00.33Bibiit's not really a matter of bandwith, it's just that my download server speed is limited , it just has enough bandwith to run whatever i need :p
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11:11.08Subdeehello. with WoW, i have wine 0.9.34 and after the 2.0.12 patch, everything except the mouse freezes after Accepting the EULA's. on Ubuntu Dapper and ATI X1300
11:11.14Subdeesome help please?
11:13.29Bleeteryou'd probably have more luck with assistance in #winehq they're a lot more lunix aware in there than here
11:14.12Bleeterhaving said that, I've got no OpenGL issues with wine 0.9.32 on a 2.6.20 kernel, alsa on the other hand... :/
11:14.21BleeternVidia card, tho
11:14.22ShirikI also haven't had any issues
11:14.26Shirikalso nvidia card
11:14.35Shirikalso opengl
11:15.37BleeterI *do* know that ATI updated their drivers recently
11:16.20Bleeterbringing it more features into parity with their Windows drivers, tho. maybe upgrade/downgrade your driver might help somewhat
11:17.18Adys28th march aye bleeter
11:18.07BleeterAdys: sounds about right (when I finally got sick of their beta-driver emails still coming through after requesting they stop sending me them several times ;-)
11:18.19AdysUpdated them yesterday :P
11:19.49BleeterI just wish I could work out this dang alsa problem. I've gone as far as going back to a .18 kernel, and an earlier alsa, thing refuses to dmix for me anymore
11:20.07Bleeterbut *only* in WoW... other wine audio is fine
11:20.25Bleeteri must've missed some permutation in testing
11:23.10Apollozeus<_<
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11:50.20Adysgogo gnomeregan, Apollozeus
11:50.33Apollozeuslol
11:50.40ApollozeusI'm trying to capture the hydrocane
11:50.46Apollozeus10 tries so far, no luck
11:52.13Apollozeus-_- no luck again
11:54.30Eylenacan any1 proove me that xmas is halloween? ^^
11:54.51Eylenahydrocane? extremly lovable for all classes cept warlock
11:55.16Mikkand warriors and rogues
11:55.30Mikknowait.. paladins and rogues
11:55.54Eylenawell, yeah, those cant wear it, but it would be useful to them too :D
11:56.34Eylenanasty to enter coilfang without anything that gives u underwater breathin
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12:00.49Eylenaback to this proof: as no1 wants to try, here it is:
12:01.07Eylenaoct31==dec24 clear? :D
12:01.24Eylenaups, xmas is dec25 :s
12:02.41Apollozeus<Eylena> hydrocane? extremly lovable for all classes cept warlock
12:02.54Mikkwell, octal 31 IS decimal 25
12:03.01Apollozeusextremely lovable for all classes that can carry staves and want to be able to breath underwater
12:03.03Apollozeus:P
12:03.13Apollozeusit finally dropped for me btw
12:03.16Mikkgrats ;)
12:03.17Apollozeusafter... 13 attempts <_<
12:03.19Eylenagrats
12:03.23Apollozeus:p
12:03.24Mikknow go grind a strong fishing pole ;)
12:03.30Apollozeushaha
12:03.32Eylenawell, who plays pala or rouge? ;)
12:03.37AdysROUGE
12:03.41Mikki have both a pally or rogue
12:03.44Apollozeuswhy does everybody misspell rogue... o.O
12:03.45AdysROUGE IS OVERPOWDERED!
12:03.45Mikkno rouges tho
12:04.04Mikki also have a warlock, who doesn't have much problems breathing underwater
12:04.07Mikkalso have a druid... same there really
12:04.16Mikkso.. two classes that could use the staff but doesn't need it
12:04.20Mikkand two that would like it but can't use
12:04.24Mikksigh =)
12:04.29Eylenai love it on my priest
12:04.45AdysThe ring from the AQ event is ftw =P
12:04.58MikkFishing contest trinket > all
12:05.02Eylenaand my mage will have 1 too, as soon as she is capable of gnome
12:05.17Eylenayup, that trinket is 1337
12:06.10Bleeternah
12:06.15Bleeterfull twill set > all
12:06.29Adyshttp://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=269577298&postId=2693531477&sid=1
12:06.44Bleeterone can say to beggars 'do I *look* like I've got 1g to give you, go away!'
12:08.09BleeterAdys: I can't understand that.. it's in French :P
12:08.21AdysWha? :P
12:09.30Adystheres nuffin french there
12:09.41BleeterRessources système insuffisantes pour terminer le service demandé.
12:09.51Bleeteror is that quebecian?
12:10.00Bleeteror whatever they speak in belgium?
12:10.01Bleeter:P
12:10.02winkillerwasn't here someone from wowhead
12:10.11Apollozeusehm
12:10.14Apollozeusfrench and dutch
12:10.21Eylenayeah, just reminds me: i have a problem myself, if some1 wants to trade with me, i only get a chat message "trade refused"
12:10.26Apollozeusthere is no such language as 'belgian'
12:10.27Adyswinkiller: skosiris, sometimes
12:10.33winkillerah thx
12:10.47Adysbleeter: aye french
12:10.54Apollozeusoh and
12:11.02Bleeteri know there's no such thing as 'belgian' a language, I was alluding to the fact that some belgians won't admit what they're speaking is french or dutch and call it by another name ;)
12:11.03AdysInssuficient system resources to finish the required service
12:11.16Bleeteror german, for that matter ;)
12:11.31Apollozeuslol, there aren't many native germans in belgium
12:12.05Apollozeusjust a tiny few in an area on the east which they got from germany after WWII, as some sort of payment for their losses
12:12.14Apollozeusor was it WWI?
12:13.29Eylenadoes it matter? i cant see a relation between that and wow ^^
12:13.53ApollozeusI realize that <_<
12:14.00Apollozeussorry for the history lesson
12:14.12EylenaXD
12:15.48winkillerbah, wowhead commenters are plain stupid
12:15.54Apollozeushmm
12:15.59Apollozeusthottbot's are worse
12:16.18winkillerI said something like: "better save it from DEing if you got nothing better as rogue MH" -> rating -7
12:16.26winkillerlike if I said it's godsend
12:16.37Apollozeuswowhead doesn't have the whole 'omg i b farmin mi but of for this item IT RULES'
12:16.42Apollozeuskinda comments
12:16.47winkillerhehe., true
12:17.05winkillerwell, the page rocks - but you can't eliminate the 70% morons playing it
12:17.12Apollozeusnope
12:17.17Apollozeuswell
12:17.33Apollozeusnuking denmark and sweden would be a step in the right direction
12:17.41winkillerhehe
12:17.49Apollozeusmost of the idiots I run into hail from there >_>
12:18.26winkilleryou've _obviously_ never been to a German server
12:18.26ApollozeusI have :P
12:18.26winkillerI pity you
12:18.26Apollozeusthough never leveled past level 12 there
12:18.26winkillernever made it past 22
12:18.30Apollozeussame stuff as in the english realms though
12:18.38winkillerstarted on a friend's realm - 1 *22 and 3*12, then I quit :P
12:18.39ApollozeusWO GIBT ES THAELIS DER HUNGERER
12:18.52winkillerhm, starting zones are always bad
12:19.02ApollozeusElwynn Forest rocks
12:19.02winkillerbut /1 /2 aren't better often
12:19.07Apollozeus'omg there's horde here'
12:19.13Apollozeus'WHERE WHERE LEMME KILL'
12:19.19winkillerlol
12:19.59Apollozeusand then a whole discussion in which all newbies are warned every other minute to not attack them - since their level is inferior to the hordy's
12:20.11Apollozeusdiscussion emerges*
12:20.21Eylenai play on german RP-PvP, and its... ok, just the AH is totally out of bound
12:20.26Adyshahahaha
12:20.32AdysTechsupport edited his post
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12:20.36winkilleryeah, rp-pvp is mostly better
12:20.43Adyshttp://forums.wow-europe.com/board.html?forumId=11079&sid=1
12:20.46ShirikI wish I were on an rp-pvp server, tbh
12:20.51winkillerbut also not in starting zones :P
12:21.09ShirikReally, rp-pvp server is the fun of a pvp server minus the moron kiddies
12:21.39Eylenawell, u still run into morons and kiddies :s
12:21.51Bleeteryar, just far less of them on RPs
12:22.17Apollozeusyou can't escape morons or kiddies
12:22.31Bleeterbecause 50% of the population have a below average IQ :)
12:22.33Apollozeusnot if you play horde, not if you leave the general chat and not if you go to certain kiddies
12:22.37Apollozeuserr
12:22.41Apollozeuscertain servers*
12:22.43winkillerwell, my server is full of polite and friendly skandinavians, I'm fine :P
12:22.50Apollozeusholy crap
12:22.55ApollozeusPOLITE scandinavians?
12:23.02winkilleryeah., 90%
12:23.07Apollozeuswhat server o.O
12:23.11winkillerAggramar
12:23.13Apollozeusah
12:23.33ApollozeusI'm getting sick of all the danish and swedish noobs here at Stormrage :/
12:23.54winkilleruhm, btw - you're from the netherlands, right?
12:24.03Eylenaplay on small, unpopulated RP-PvP servers and ur fine ;)
12:24.55winkillerhow much do you understand of danish/swedish/norwegian? if you aren't actually learning the language
12:25.04Eylenaonly our AH has... some rather exclusive prices...
12:25.12winkilleris it like Germans understanding Dutch for 70%?
12:25.56Bleeteroh, absolutely none of them.. with a bit of revision, I can get by reading spanish/portuguese/french/italian/german, and a little nederlandse. been a while though.
12:26.25Bleetertho I'm sure I'd fall apart if i brushed up on my german and ended up in some schwabish pug
12:26.44Teomyrlol
12:26.44winkillerlol
12:27.15Mikkwinkiller: a dutch speaker would understand maybe every third word of scandinavian languages if he knows only dutch
12:27.33winkilleroh. nice
12:27.36Mikki.e. could prolly guess what sentences were about most of the time
12:28.04winkillera German only every 5th or 6th :P - reading
12:28.04Eylenabut nearly all dutch speak some german and english, afaik
12:28.04Mikkaye, that'll probably up the chances a bit
12:28.04winkillerbut they end up sopeaking dutch all the time :P
12:28.08winkillerat least here
12:28.16winkillerso much for bashing skandinavians :D
12:28.19Mikk<- swedish. knows english, obviously. some german too. can scan dutch newspapers passably.
12:28.39Mikkdon't ask me to pick up a single spoken dutch word though
12:28.47winkilleralways wanted to learn Dutch, as it's quite easy to get some basic skills
12:29.00Eylena<- swiss. i dont speak english ;)
12:29.07Mikknot as long as they insist on pronouncing G as if they got a fly in their throat
12:29.09Bleeteri can get a hotel bed for a night, food, hirecare etc. in most western european languages, and mumble my way with fingerpointing through some of the eastern
12:29.14Bleeter*hire-car
12:29.38BleeterMikk: what, like the Scottish with their 'ch' (eg, 'loch') ;)
12:30.32Eylenai love that sound, here i switzerland there is the training word: "chuchichäschtli"
12:30.48Eylena[xu¦xi¦xest¦li]
12:31.05Shiriko.o
12:31.31Eylenasounds nice, even nicer if some abroad ppl try to pronounce it :D
12:32.14winkillerEylena: what's that?
12:32.28EylenaBleeter: try Shewheningen, each 'e' as in pet
12:32.51Eylenaa cupboard
12:32.59winkillerEylena: or just rewrite it, I had no utf8
12:33.30Eylenawinkiller: "chuchichästli" that 1?
12:33.37winkillerthanks.
12:33.44winkillernow I would've gotten it :P
12:34.57Eylenaany1 good in chinese? ^^
12:35.16BleeterNi jiu yeo yi ge xiao tou! Wei shen mo ni yao fan?
12:35.36Bleeter(is all I know.. apart from "Ni hao!")
12:35.53Eylenalately talked with china-farmers? ^^
12:36.12MikkHao ma!
12:37.57winkillerni hao?
12:39.00Eylenaomg -.-
12:39.46Shirikgenki desu ka?
12:39.58winkillerarg, what happens if you send a mail and 10min after delte the recipient
12:40.05winkillerwill it come bacK?
12:40.11winkilleras it was on the way
12:40.12Shirikprobably
12:40.25Eylenainteresting question
12:40.26Shirikyou'll find out in 50 minutes
12:40.28winkillerlet's hope for poor mr. 14sl bag
12:40.59Mikkor possibly it gets stuck in limbo for a month
12:41.05winkillerhehe
12:41.20winkillerif it won't return I'll write a ticket and ask
12:41.23Mikki wouldnt be surprised if it disappeared forever tho
12:41.27Mikkor until next server maint
12:41.30winkillerit's a yes/no question
12:41.37winkillerno "working as intended" possible
12:41.53ShirikWhile it makes sense that it would disapper
12:41.54Bleeteryar, ideally it should bounce.. but who knows :)
12:42.03ShirikI think this falls into one of the bugfixes they had a few patches ago
12:42.09Shirikwhere mail was being lost
12:42.27Eylenaid say high-end programs have everything cept easy yes/no questions ^^
12:42.27winkillernice, not that it matters
12:42.34winkillerit's more a scientific question :P
12:45.27Apollozeus<_<
12:45.30Apollozeus<winkiller> uhm, btw - you're from the netherlands, right? <-- yes, I am
12:45.38Apollozeussorry for the late response :p
12:49.18Bleeterneedless to say, I had a great time working there :)
12:49.30Bleeternn all, be nice to one another :D
12:50.23Apollozeusjokes about the dutch?
12:50.25winkillerApollozeus: did you see the question? how much stuff you understand in swe/no/dan
12:50.47ApollozeusI can usually grasp the very, very basic
12:50.53winkillerok
12:50.58Apollozeusnot really more than that, in most cases
12:51.12Apollozeusbasics*
12:51.17winkillerwell in WoW it's even harder, as there isn't much context and only short sentences
12:52.24Apollozeusyup, spoken language typed out
12:52.24winkillerI've just read some mailinglist posts and manual in dutch, that's doable
12:52.24Apollozeuslol
12:52.24winkillerif you know what to look for
12:52.24Eylenasometimes my friends and me (all swiss) 'capture' the guild chat, spamming swiss german :D
12:52.24Apollozeusso where are you from?
12:52.35winkillerGermany
12:52.35winkillerlol Eylena
12:52.35Apollozeusah
12:52.35Apollozeuslol
12:52.45ApollozeusI hate it when people do that in parties
12:52.46Eylenaonly problem: the german ppl now learn to understand swiss :s
12:52.46winkillerswiss german is weird.
12:52.49winkillereven for us bavarians
12:52.58KirkburnI'm Alpha Centaurian
12:53.05Apollozeuslol
12:53.08Teomyri'd refuse to call it swiss *german*
12:53.12winkillerand half of germany doesn't underdtand us either
12:53.35Eylenawe all know Kirkburn is quite a bit off ;)
12:54.19KirkburnCouple of light years, yeah
12:55.09winkillerI figured that as I learned that he made CLearFont
12:55.23winkillerpersonally I know few games with such a nicely readable font :P
12:55.24Eylenaomg, its 3pm and some ppl already go to bed ;)
12:55.27Kirkburn~emulate Kirkburn
12:55.30infobotI hear he's very fond of kittens. Buy him one.
12:56.42winkillercats are from hell
12:56.52winkillercreatures of nightmare and fur
12:57.28Eylenacats r nice, ill get 1 for myself as soon as i have an own home
12:57.36Eylena*meow*
12:57.50winkillerwould kill me without pills :P
12:58.03winkillerdamn allergy
12:58.13Eylenaalways these allergics
12:58.45winkillerit would starve anyways
13:01.02Eylenaa cat of my parents got last year 5 kittens, that was really sweet :D
13:01.47winkillerI prefer my Black Tabby ingame
13:02.11winkillerhad a dog until my parents moved away, better than cats
13:02.30Eylenau never saw 5 high energetic furballs playing in the living room :D
13:02.52winkillernah, too much coughing and handkerchiefs neded
13:04.32Eylenahm, the wall is comimng nearer, maybe i should brack or change direction... lets stop, but huh! the carpet moves now too! ooooohhhhh.... badang!
13:05.13winkillerlol
13:05.37Eylenatwas a funny time when i visited my parents
13:07.30Eylenaand everything that moves has to be tested if its digestable. also my big toe
13:08.04Teomyrhaha
13:18.56Eylenabk
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13:25.05KirkburnI've got nearly 30 DreamScenes now :)
13:26.26Eylenawhats that?
13:26.44KirkburnVideo/dynamic Vista wallpapers
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13:27.21Eylenao-m-g
13:28.02Garuhey everyone - any paladins around - recenly rerolled one and I would like to discuss some things
13:28.15KirkburnAsk away
13:28.52KirkburnVista is already better than XP SP2
13:29.02KirkburnIt's just the drivers atm
13:29.10Eylenasee? :D
13:29.25Kirkburn*grmble grmble* :)
13:29.29GaruId like to go prot in endgame (if I can lvl him all the way up .) And Id like to know what lelv ie reasonable to start with prot spec
13:29.38Eylenain a year or two, or thee or more, i gonna think about a change
13:30.08GaruIm guessin about 40ish when I get shild talent and doule swing thingie but Id like to heal professional opinion
13:30.08Eylenaprot is kinda heal-pala?
13:30.15KirkburnGaru, well, personally I wouldn't switch until you're actually doing dungeons
13:31.15Eylenai for myself (priest) gonna change to holy not be4 67, maybe even later, coz as shadow, i can solo
13:31.54Garuwell thats another thing - do you hing that pala wi able to tank sthings like SM at apropriate lvl - id like to get in touch with tanking as soon as I can so that I could tell if I really like playstyle it offers or not
13:32.43GaruOtherwis Ill end up having 3rd healing class on my account .)
13:33.14Eylenaok, then go offensive ;)
13:35.18GaruI guess ill stick to retri till I can get holy shied, respec to praot around 40sh and talk some guildies into alt runs with me
13:35.44Garu<---- need to l2spell
13:36.24Eylenabut remember: healers r always in GREAT need, in evenings i get spammed with requests :)
13:39.38Adysbbl
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13:45.21KirkburnI wonder ... I could get LoTRO for my birthday
13:45.28KirkburnIt launches two days before
13:47.38Eylenawell, i dunno... i probably stay witht wow ;)
13:47.59drindid you checkout Lotro already Kirkburn?
13:48.10drinI did some beta stuff, and it really didnt cut it : )
13:48.12KirkburnNot thinking of leaving WoW, no way hose
13:48.16drinhehe : )
13:48.44KirkburnBagginsww says he's been playing it, shall have to ask him more about it
13:48.56GaruWarhammer online -----> this way
13:49.12drinIt's not what I expected of that game.
13:50.08GaruI dont think lotr can be transofrmed into pleasurable MMO
13:50.44drinIt was the interface, the way map was provided, running around in the world, interacting with persons and objects..
13:51.02GaruI love hte lore of the world and everything, but there is very little space for actual storyline in 3rd age imo
13:51.45KirkburnLoTR is much more about specific people and events than WoW
13:52.04drinThe story is, the realm doesnt' have to be.
13:52.36KirkburnHmm, my comment doesn't read as I wanted it to read
13:53.02KirkburnI meant the LotR story is much tighter than the Warcraft storyline, leaving less space for an MMO
13:53.27Eylenai just scanned throu a game-mag review (they had a nice comparison of wow and lotro) and... nope, its not yet evolved enough
13:55.00Eylenaand come on, the wow lore is written for games, lotr as a tale and now some ppl try to make a game outta it
13:55.05KirkburnAye
13:55.19KirkburnSo, just needs more development or an overhaul?
13:56.22Eylenaas far is i read, its just... too small, not enough story/deepness but they mentioned itll get more add-ons
13:57.41drinIt needs a beter gui also, If you come from WoW and try to go in LotRO you can't get used to it :)
13:58.27Eylenai excessivly plaed only wow and gw...
13:59.06Eylenai was happy with GW, and now i think i have every add-on i need to be happy with wow :)
14:00.23drinThat is something every game should have, an active mod community : )
14:00.30drinMake my game more complete at least :D
14:00.54drinAnd all the meta-data : ) I love the stats. : )
14:01.42Eylenawell, gw is quite ok without any mods, as it is heavily focussed on playing, not getting items
14:03.31Eylena(for comparison: in about 12-24hr u have the best armor, the max level and a good weapon)
14:03.31Eylena(all that can change from then on is only look)
14:03.46drinIm not sure if that would work for me : )
14:04.58Eylenawell, if u have 8 spells, u dont need spell-management :)
14:05.37drin: )
14:09.45Eylenamy workmate just sat be4 a workstation wich box is in repair...
14:09.54Eylenatook him some seconds to realize :D
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14:23.26Cairenn|afkMikk!
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14:31.10WindwaveHey All
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14:31.43WindwaveIt's ok you can talk-I don't bite..
14:31.53Subdeei think patch 2.0.12 killed it for us linux users
14:32.00Subdeeanyone else with a problem?
14:32.03WindwaveWas there a patch yesterday?
14:32.13Subdeeyea
14:32.18WindwaveI haven't got on wow.
14:32.31WindwaveWhat did they add/change
14:33.04Subdeei don't know cause i can't play. it freezes my system
14:33.11WindwaveOuch.
14:33.17Subdee:(
14:33.18WindwaveAnyone know what they added?
14:33.54WindwaveIm At school and through a proxy server it takes 30min to load wow website.
14:34.03WindwaveSo..
14:34.08WindwaveAnyone know?
14:35.07WindwaveAnyone alive..
14:36.28Windwave>>>
14:39.40Windwave..........
14:42.37Eylenaill get it
14:44.49Eylenathere WAS a patch???
14:44.59Eylenaon wow official i only get 2.01.10
14:45.12Eylenasorry 2.0.10
14:45.17WindwaveTeah there was
14:45.24Windwaveit was just fixing bugs
14:45.31WindwaveYeah*
14:46.09Eylenatry http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_2.0.12_%28Release_Notes%29 XD
14:46.38KirkburnYay, the British soldiers are going to be released by Iran!
14:46.45WindwaveKool stuff
14:46.58WindwaveHopefully they have all there limbs.
14:47.13WindwaveGod i hate Proxy servers
14:47.50WindwaveBeen trying to load the wow website for 10min
14:47.58Eylenafor me, i have at school even a 'cool' survey-software which blocks ALL game/otherstuff related pages...
14:48.10Eylenaonly help is vpn :D
14:48.28WindwaveSame im running a proxy server
14:48.38WindwaveWhat grade you in?
14:49.01Eylena<PROTECTED>
14:49.01Eylena<PROTECTED>
14:49.13Eylenamay be a thingy for our mac-users
14:49.43WindwaveI heard Linux got screwed
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14:49.51WindwaveHey Roxutree
14:49.59WindwaveRoxutee*
14:50.02roxuteehai :-)
14:50.17Windwavewhats up?
14:50.20roxuteethe sky
14:50.38roxuteenaa im cool :p you?
14:50.39WindwaveNice.
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14:50.50WindwaveGood just school
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14:51.56Eylenawell, which client do unix-users use?
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14:52.22Windwavedunno
14:52.34roxuteebtw, is there any WoWWiki-search engine -plugin for firefox?
14:52.47roxuteethottbot and allakhazam alike
14:53.13roxuteei tried to search for something like that from the site but couldnt find
14:53.19Eylenaat home, i use.... dunno how it really works, i can enter "wow searchword" and it searches
14:53.44WindwaveI thought that was funny that the black temple attunement was a joke
14:53.56WindwaveI was about to cry when i first read it
14:53.59Eylenahttp://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Searching
14:54.10roxuteeapril joke huh?
14:54.25roxuteethanks Eylena
14:54.39WindwaveYah
14:54.50WindwaveAnd the Heroes of azeroth game
14:54.59roxuteelast year's wow joke was bettar imo.
14:55.11Windwavelol wisps for a race right
14:55.11roxuteeyou remember that burgercraft and the new alliance race -jokes? :D
14:55.19roxuteeaye hehe
14:55.29nemppubetter one was 3 years back aprils fool
14:55.33nemppuwhen WoW was still in the making
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14:55.47nempputhere was an aprils fool about two-headed ogres being one of the races
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14:55.53nemppuand that two players would randomly share the character
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14:55.57roxutee::DD
14:55.59roxuteeomg thats bad
14:56.03nemppuit was hilarious
14:56.07Windwaveteacher came by had to close lol
14:56.15nemppubest bit was... most actually believed it!
14:56.19roxuteelewl you @ school, forgot
14:56.29WindwaveYah high school :/
14:56.42nemppubecause nearly nobody had played that game back then so it seemed like something they could do xD
14:56.57roxuteehehe
14:57.04WindwaveI didnt play wow then
14:57.08WindwaveSo yah
14:57.21nemppuwell the game was in like closed beta tests
14:57.22roxuteewonder how many would start playing that two- headed ogre :D
14:57.29nemppuI WOULD!
14:57.40roxuteeand share it with some1?
14:57.41roxutee:D
14:57.51WindwaveIm betting for next expansion to introduce new classes not races.
14:58.11WindwaveBarbarians and Necromancers are my bet.
14:58.18WindwaveWe need another melee class.
14:58.19roxuteeor something battlemage like
14:58.36roxuteetoo imba maybe, imagine warlock with mail / plate
14:58.38roxuteelewl
14:58.55WindwaveIm a 70 lock
14:59.01roxutee(:
14:59.09WindwaveWe need another damage dealing melee class
14:59.09roxuteeim a 70 priest
14:59.14WindwaveBad.
14:59.17WindwaveNice
14:59.19WindwaveHoly?
14:59.25roxuteedisc / holy
14:59.39roxuteebored being only a healbot
14:59.40WindwaveSweet i do 2v2 with a disc/holy pallidin
14:59.46Windwavewe rock
14:59.55roxutee:P
15:00.00roxuteehavent done arenas yet :(
15:00.32WindwaveYeah its fun
15:00.52WindwaveShamans own us because that cyclone they do on the pallidin\
15:00.55Windwavebye g2g
15:01.05roxuteeoki, cya
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15:05.34Eylenaroxutee: what do u think of a 20/41/0 priest?
15:06.03Eylenaor... something arount that ;)
15:06.50roxuteegood healer, lasts good in long fights if good gear (enought +spirit and mp5)
15:07.15roxuteegonna spec something like that later in future
15:09.48Eylenaim thinkin about that, as all other healer have some 30/31 oder so, coz of the +spirit buff
15:11.14Eylenaimo in the raids u need both :)
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16:24.48Kirkburn~poke Mikk
16:24.59infobotACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Mikk, pokes Mikk repeatedly, hilarity ensues.
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16:42.11KirkburnLol, an email I received - "Good day. I am a very regular visotor to the Wowiki page. It has been hacked now and everywhere that says "WOW", it's been replaced by "Meo". Images has been replaced for those of cats and everywhere it talks about cats and kitties"
16:42.30Teomyrhrhr
16:43.31KarriusThat's OK
16:43.37KarriusMy best friend went to get the tinfoil hat.
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17:05.13Kasodoes anyone know places where i can search "of the" items correctly
17:07.26nempputhtotbot
17:14.31KasoDoes thottbot work properly for the outlands greens
17:16.56vlad_Kirkburn: that page was causing some grief, but it's fixed now
17:17.07vlad_there was something unrelated to that going on
17:17.09Kirkburncool
17:17.12vlad_wiki should be reasonably fast
17:17.17vlad_let me know if there are any slowdowns
17:17.26KirkburnYeah, it seems much better than before
17:17.33vlad_I ditched apache last night
17:17.38Kirkburnorly?
17:17.45vlad_yeah, moved to lighttpd
17:18.03vlad_would've been a smooth move if someone had bothered to document one magic mediawiki config option you had to set :p
17:18.22Kirkburnlol
17:18.22vlad_but I found it eventually :)
17:18.42KirkburnSo how about the move to 1.9.2? ;)
17:19.01vlad_still "soon" =/
17:20.01KirkburnOh, look, it's Tooj117 again - http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=Kurt+Cobain
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17:28.11CrakeHunterhello, i downloaded the new patch, it stil lshws version 6448 tho  but stops at the "authorizing"-dialogue in menue
17:28.30CrakeHunterim running linux (cedega version) - did anyone encounter this problem as well?
17:30.30KirkburnHmm, I know there were some Linux users on here
17:33.25CrakeHunterdamn, reinstalling is a pain and lasts hours :(
17:33.50CrakeHunterwhich things did change in the new patch btW?
17:34.50Kasothe auto unstuck
17:34.55Kasoand EoTS
17:35.02Kasoand some macosx things
17:36.29CrakeHunterheh none of those tells me anything ;)
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17:41.13AdysEeeeeevening :D
17:41.15Adys./happymood on
17:41.29CrakeHunterg'evening :)
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17:44.33Teomyrhi adys
17:44.42Adyslo teo =)
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18:06.03Tuqui-tuquihttp://features.cgsociety.org/gallerycrits/148983/148983_1162651093_large.jpg
18:06.03Tuqui-tuquiI hope you guys can see that
18:06.03Tuqui-tuquiits a 3D image of a night elf :)
18:07.57KarriusFirst thought: Niiiiiice
18:08.02KarriusSecond thought: Needs more eyebrows
18:08.33Tuqui-tuqui>.>
18:08.35Tuqui-tuqui:p
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18:47.42KirkburnThat's CG?
18:47.50Tuqui-tuquiyep
18:48.07KirkburnPhotoshopped, surely?!
18:48.23Tuqui-tuquihmm,..
18:48.25Tuqui-tuquiyes
18:48.36Tuqui-tuquiit was photoshopped after it was rendered
18:48.47Tuqui-tuquiall 3d stills have that
18:50.08Kirkburnwow
18:50.28Gryphenhttp://features.cgsociety.org/story_custom.php?story_id=4006
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19:02.12KirkburnI can't believe that not a real human face. CG really has come a looong way
19:05.16TeomyrI find CG very fascinating, but too complex for me to produce anything good :P
19:06.22Tuqui-tuquiI went to school for that
19:06.42Tuqui-tuquibut eventually my career path ended up in another direction
19:06.53Tuqui-tuquiI work in production now... not post-production
19:07.21KirkburnThe only problem I see with that image is that it's too perfect
19:07.41KirkburnNot even night elven faces should an image of perfection
19:07.44Kirkburn*should be
19:08.08KirkburnIt needs irregularities
19:09.08KirkburnShe's a warrior fer goodness sake :)
19:09.48Tuqui-tuquimaybe she took a bath before they took her picture :p
19:09.50Teomyrthat one rather looks like a ranger that keeps out of melee combat :P
19:10.04KarriusYes, but she's an elven lesbian! There's laws against her having imperfections.
19:12.09KirkburnShe needs a comb
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19:33.06winkillerit's far fropm perfect
19:33.53winkillerlike my spelling
19:52.55Adysbbl
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20:13.48Kirkburnvlad_, quick note, the latest release is now 1.9.3
20:14.15KirkburnI think the 1.10.0 branch is very very soon to be released
20:19.11vlad_mm
20:19.13vlad_good to know
20:19.14KirkburnNext tuesday, going by their previous record
20:19.25vlad_though i'm usually scared to go to the latest-and-greatest
20:19.31KirkburnYeah, that's fair
20:19.31vlad_is there anything in 1.10 that you really care about?
20:19.47KirkburnI have no idea, trying to see what's new atm
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20:34.39TecnoBrat(I know, old news), that CG is amazing
20:34.57TecnoBratEspecially all of the detail with the eyes
20:49.37KirkburnTecnoBrat, old news, lol. Reminds me of the WoW forums - if you missed something by a day, you're out of the loop :/
20:49.46KirkburnSo it'll be hourly fads
20:49.50Kirkburn*Soon
20:50.10winkillerin irc it's always been hourly
20:54.03Kirkburn~coconuts
20:54.05infobotI've got a lovely bunch of coconuts, there they are all standing in a row. Big ones, small ones, some as big as your head, give them a twist, a flick of the wrist, that's what the showman said!
21:01.46*** join/#wowwiki Shadowed (n=outlaw@12.157.177.162)
21:05.29Kirkburnhmmmm
21:06.00KirkburnWiki problems?
21:06.25vlad_no, network
21:07.15KirkburnAiee
21:07.36KirkburnBad network! Sit!
21:07.45vlad_the internets are trying to reroute themselves
21:08.36Gryphennew tubes are added daily confuzzing the system
21:12.32TecnoBratWe need some draino
21:13.15KirkburnWikipedia is down
21:13.34KirkburnEven the greats aren't immune
21:13.43Gryphenwowwiki, secret project of wikipedia
21:16.42Apollozeusit's online
21:16.43Apollozeus<_<
21:17.04KirkburnWikipedia?
21:17.14Grypheni can get to wikip
21:17.22KirkburnAye, it was only brief
21:17.49TecnoBratI can get to wikip no problem
21:18.01KirkburnStill surprises me how relatively small their IRC channel is
21:19.50KarriusWould you WANT to talk to the kind of people who edit wikipedia? :p
21:20.02winkillerthey are busy bitching
21:20.09winkillerat leat German guys
21:21.36Teomyrthe bitching on wikipedia is terrible
21:22.17Kirkburn1,000 admins
21:22.19Teomyrinstead of people fixing things, they complain and complain on the talk pages how badly written the articles are
21:22.48KirkburnFortunately /we're/ not bounded by the walls of reality :P
21:23.05KirkburnAnd Jaina is hardly likely to sue us for libel
21:23.41Kirkburn"Jaina and Thrall, sitting in a tree, K-I-S-S-I-N-G"
21:24.44KirkburnSeriously, how did the wowwiki cope with only two active admins?
21:25.20KarriusClearly, they had no lives.
21:27.54KirkburnOne is Fandy
21:28.26KirkburnSchmidt isn't dead, but he's moved on
21:31.22KirkburnY'know, I love how only a few minutes before the network died, I posted about why there was slowdown recently
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21:33.19KirkburnWe only just archived the Village pump, and it's already up to 55 topics. Sheesh! :P
21:38.05Kirkburnvlad_, sancus, The Coop? Either of you doing stuff for that?
21:38.30sancusthe.. what?
21:38.34Gryphenlol
21:38.45Kirkburnhttp://forums.wincustomize.com/?AID=149232
21:38.51vlad_I am, yeah
21:38.58vlad_not directly, no time, but i'm advising and stuff
21:39.08sancusoh that thing
21:39.09sancusI'm not no
21:39.30KirkburnInteresting stuff
21:39.54Kirkburnsancus, btw, how did the website launch go?
21:39.58sancussocial networking generally annoys me more than anything :)
21:40.06sancuswell enough
21:40.21sancusthere's still some problems but they're Not Mine, as vlad would say ;p
21:40.27Kirkburnhaha
21:51.15KasoMan whoever put this line in the karazhan article is my new god
21:51.16Kaso"The staircase from the gatehouse to the ballroom contains 53 stairs."
21:51.24AdysLOL
21:51.47Kasoawesome
21:52.11KirkburnSomeone actually complained about that btw :/
21:52.22AdysKirk
21:52.28KirkburnAdys
21:52.29Adys#REDIRECT [wikipedia]
21:52.41Adysif people complain about stuff like that its just my new line
21:52.50Kirkburnlol
21:53.54Adyshow can ppl calling themselves Lindòrië expect an invite, ever?
21:54.06Teomyrlol
21:54.29AdysOr Äpòllôzéùs or whatever
21:55.40AdysI think accentuated characters or anything alike should not be allowed in names tbh
21:55.46Adysand im french
21:56.27Adysand no, im not saying that im french to tell "and my opinion is bs" but to tell that I do use accentuated characters aswell :P
21:56.38Adysnot in my character names ofc
21:56.56AdysI only use normal characters for my characters
21:57.02Adyselse they are not normal characters..
21:57.04Adyswtf.
21:57.13Teomyrthere are way to many Légôláses running around
21:57.22Adysthis is deep man. ima write a book ill be back in a bit
21:58.26Bleeterisn't the 'rule' "if the chars in a toon's name do not appear on the default keyboard layout of the realm's language, they can be complained about to GM and a change forced"?
21:58.46Teomyrnever heard of it
22:01.10BleeterI had Rocín on enUS, was forced to change
22:02.33Bleeterwhich was a real bummer, had a whole collection of Quixote-type names
22:05.40Adyshttp://www.wowinsider.com/2007/04/04/forum-post-of-the-day-envisioning-wow-2-0/
22:05.43Adysinteresting read
22:06.16BleeterTeomyr: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wowgm/?id=agm01723p#inappropriate
22:06.27Bleeterdot point #2
22:06.47Bleeteralthough that's clearly a reference to US realm, and US 101/102 keybd
22:07.05TeomyroO
22:07.34Bleeteriirc, it's got more to do with being a pain of a thing for GM's to type in, than for any other reason ;)
22:08.27Bleeterhowever, having said that... why they don't block char creation in the client to fit that is way beyond my tiny brain's comprehension
22:11.41Teomyryeah
22:12.06Teomyrbtw, have you ever had a look at the dbc files for the profanity filters?
22:12.28winkillerwho would do that?
22:12.36Teomyri did, because i was bored
22:12.42Adysaye i did teo ^^
22:12.48Adystheres some fun stuff in there
22:12.50Adysbeen a while tho
22:12.56Teomyr^^
22:14.58winkillercan I get the "amount" of stuff in a CoD?
22:15.13winkillerit looks as if it were 1
22:15.25winkillerbut more pots also look like 1 pot
22:16.27Teomyri don't get what you mean
22:17.12winkillerwell, in the inbox you don't see how many that are
22:17.23winkilleryou have to click on the mail and IN the mail on the attachment
22:17.27winkillerthen ok/cancek
22:17.32Teomyrah
22:17.36winkillerdidn't remember the 2nd step to make sure
22:18.51AdysKirkburn: beep
22:22.00Kirkburnmmhmm?
22:27.36*** join/#wowwiki Kitan (n=Kitan@pool-71-117-38-201.mdsnwi.dsl-w.verizon.net)
22:27.43Kitanhello all
22:27.55Shirikrawr
22:28.00Teomyrhi
22:28.00Gryphenono i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle.
22:28.07Gryphenheya
22:28.08Adysalo kitan
22:28.17Adyslol gryph
22:28.26Adysthis thing is scary
22:28.27Shirikis that a bot?
22:28.31KirkburnYup
22:28.34Adysy
22:28.48KirkburnHullo Kitan
22:28.58KirkburnAdys, why'd you beep me?
22:28.59Kitanis the red text a private message?
22:29.03AdysFor kitan :P
22:29.07KarriusThe red text is an action
22:29.08KarriusDone with /me
22:29.13Karrius(assuming you mean the pinkish stuff)
22:29.20KirkburnDepends on the IRC client
22:29.21Kitanahh
22:29.22KitanKirk
22:29.26Gryphencolor doesnt mean much heh
22:29.33Gryphenanyone can change their colors
22:29.35Kitandid you see my stuff on your talk page?
22:30.01KirkburnKitan, I was gonna look at the bot's edits earlier, but the host network went crazy
22:30.10Kitanahh
22:30.11Kitanok
22:30.20Kitanyou can look at the specific code in the example on the page
22:30.20Adysbtw
22:30.33AdysAnyone knows a decent chatlog parser?
22:30.38Kitanwell for the string edit
22:30.52Kitanif there are any pages you want me to do as a test please feel free to let me know :)
22:31.05KirkburnI notice some use "Quality" and others "quality"
22:31.07AdysMurgg's chatlog parser kinda sucks
22:31.17KirkburnIf you can make sure they all use the latter
22:31.23Adysbtw is the quality replacement needed at all?
22:31.33Adysonce KasoBot will be done it should be replaced only on a few pages
22:31.38AdysKaso, beep
22:31.45KasoBoop boop
22:31.50Adys^
22:32.35winkillerwhat chatlog parser?
22:32.38KasoI'm a pusher robot
22:32.45Adysa /chatlog thing
22:32.50Adysthat parses the text file
22:32.57Adysto make it more easily readable
22:33.06AdysIve got almost 10mb of logged chat
22:33.09KitanI changed it to use Quality
22:33.15Kitanlike the request was on the site
22:33.19KirkburnMarked as bot
22:33.24AdysRight
22:33.28AdysKitan, something first
22:33.37KirkburnWell, as long as it's consistent :)
22:33.40AdysIs it possible to replace only these templates
22:33.44winkilleroh
22:33.50Adyswhen they are NOT in {{tooltipcss}} thing?
22:33.54winkillerI got an addon called chatlog
22:33.55Kitanhrm
22:33.59Adyshard to explain, kaso do tha
22:34.01Adysthat*
22:34.13Kitanno I know what you mean
22:34.15AdysMe too winkiller, I use prat
22:34.19Kitancurrently it is not implemented that way
22:34.22Kasodo what?
22:34.24Kitanbut if it is prefered
22:34.27KitanI could possibly do that
22:34.27AdysThe problem Kitan is
22:34.35Adysall the uses of {{tooltipcss}} (or almost)
22:34.38Adysare being replaced
22:34.44Adysto use {{tooltip}}
22:34.50Adysand tooltip uses {{quality}}
22:34.51winkilleroops
22:34.56Kitanright
22:34.56winkillerdidn't notice it's in prat
22:35.13AdysSo your bot might end up doing 3000 useless edits
22:35.24Adys(which is a bit much :P)
22:35.39KitanI wasn't sure how close Kaso was to running the ToolTip update
22:35.53Kasowell im about 1/3 done with the first sweep atm
22:36.01Kasomaybe 1/2 to be honest
22:36.10Kasobut im going on holiday for a week tommorrow :<
22:36.11Kitanso was not worried about that.  Also the algorithm is much less likely to screw up the way it is done now.  So I left it
22:36.24AdysAlright
22:36.28Adysthen leave it for a bit
22:36.35Kitanno I can just not run it
22:36.42Adysy what i meant :P
22:37.02Kitanand put in the implementation to not modify {{tooltipcss}}
22:37.06Kitanahh
22:37.12Kasothatd be a good plan
22:37.16Kitanwell the bot is split up like I mentioned on my bot page.
22:37.37Kitanso modifying the quality algorithm won't be difficult.
22:37.50Adyslets just leave it for now
22:37.57AdysAnd dont run it
22:37.58KitanI will change the quality algorithm to not modify anything inside of {{tooltipcss}}
22:38.19Kitanum ok if that is what you want
22:38.28Adysits just simpler
22:38.47Kitanis there another bot update you would like to request?
22:38.53KitanIcon is similar
22:38.59Kitanto this quality issue
22:39.04Adysaye
22:39.10Adys#  Deprecate {{500club}} / {{1000club}} / {{2500club}} / {{5000club}} / {{10000club}} / {{25000club}} / {{50000club}} for {{Wwclub}}
22:39.11Adys<3
22:39.11Kitanany issue with doing the other two ont eh bot requests
22:39.28KasoKitan: remeber its {| style="{{tooltipcss}}".*|} for tooltipcss tooltips
22:39.42Kitanand the elinksquest for elinks-quest too right?
22:39.52Adysya this one is a bit useless but aye
22:39.54KitanKaso, adys would like me to wait until you are finished.  That is fine
22:40.05KasoNah i see no reason to wait
22:40.09Kasomy bot is quite slow :<
22:40.16Kasoand as i say im gone for a week
22:40.24KasoJust leave the tooltipcss and all should be good i think
22:40.25Kitanwell Adys wants to wait
22:40.28AdysWell depends, i dont mind if you do it now but you dont have to recode that
22:40.31Kitanok.. I have to go to dinner
22:40.45Kitanjust let me know what you guys want on my talk page
22:40.53Kitanthe code is fairly trivial Adys
22:41.12Adyswell if it is then feel free, i just dont want to make you feel you're forced to do anything =)
22:41.23Adysas i always say its already really cool having ppl coding bots to do that stuff
22:41.28Kitanmost of my coding was done setting up the bot
22:41.32Kitannot the algorithm
22:41.33KitanI don't mind waiting
22:41.45KitanI can do the others
22:42.06Adysnah go ahead if the code is actually simple
22:42.07Kitanif we get to the point where there are no other bot requests I will revisit quality
22:42.09Kitanhehe
22:42.14Kitanum ok.. well I have to go afk for a while
22:42.19Adysok laters :P
22:44.31Teomyri find it very nice that grey quests now reward their full reputation reward
22:44.54Adysteomyr, did you find out about the lowbie exodar quests?
22:45.00Adysthey still give me 10% at lvl 70
22:45.25Teomyrno, i'm doing some quests in elwynn forest with my 23 draenei shaman
22:45.33Teomyri'm already into revered at stormwind oO
22:45.37Adyslol
22:45.46Adysthey increased rep gains greatly in general
22:46.00Adysthe shen dralar librams give 350 rep!
22:46.20Teomyrwhat is reputation with the shen'dralar good for, anyway?
22:46.27AdysEPEEN FFS!
22:46.36Teomyroh, sorry. i forgot :P
22:46.44Adysits ok for this time
22:47.09AdysOK basically
22:47.23AdysIm a greedy selfish ass and I want two things. I want them now!
22:47.32AdysFirst. A decent chatlog parser
22:47.33TeomyrxD
22:47.35AdysWith colors and stuff
22:47.44Adysand possibility to merge stuff
22:48.02AdysMurgg's parser kinda sucks. Its slow, takes up memory, and you cant have two channels up at the same time
22:48.09AdysSecond thing
22:48.56Teomyra chat log parser for what?
22:48.56AdysA watcher addon, that makes you able to watch someone in friendlist, refreshing it often and giving you a sound/text warning when something is updated (eg, level/afk or dnd tag etc)
22:49.07Adysfor the /chatlog thing
22:49.41Teomyri seem to learn something new about world of warcraft every day
22:49.55Adys..
22:50.01Adysits in there since the beta come on
22:50.02Teomyrnever used that command before :D
22:50.15Adysbah
22:50.17AdysAnyways
22:50.24Adysive got almost 10mb of text
22:50.30Adysi believe over 250 000 lines
22:50.35TeomyroO
22:50.35Adyssomething alike
22:50.42Adysand its NOT readable
22:50.55Adys(aye btw, wow stops logging at 5800 kb)
22:51.06Adys(so you gotta rename the old one and create a new one)
22:51.50Teomyrand now you need a parser to work with that stuff
22:52.34Adysy
22:52.37Adyshttp://uifiles.worldofwar.net/upload/pics/1121715858WLP_Screen1.JPG look how shit that is
22:52.43Adysyou cant even merge two things
22:52.47Adyslike General and Guild
22:53.26Teomyrhm
22:55.41Adysim gonna cry
22:56.12Teomyrso what you need is a program that you can use to view, browse, filter, etc. your logs
22:58.09Adysyes
22:58.20Adyshttp://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=751 this one is the most effective i found but it still sucks
22:58.44Adysfor example
22:58.50Adyssay ive been talking with a friend in /p and /w
22:59.07AdysI want to be able to have a tab to have /p and /w
22:59.21Adysthis BASIC stuff, it cant even do that
22:59.28Adysand i want to be picky
22:59.49Adysi want to have a tab with /p from <date> to <date> and /w to or from [charname]
23:00.00Teomyri see
23:00.17Adysi cant even find the source of these apps so i can try and add some stuff in
23:00.29Teomyryeah, that sucks
23:00.30Adysand i honestly cba to code a complete one
23:00.50Teomyrcba?
23:00.55Adyscant be arsed
23:00.58Bleeterknowing what I know about chat logfiles from the gaim project, parsing them well is total buttsecks
23:01.11Teomyrah
23:01.18Adysgaim project?
23:01.50Bleeterfor starters, if you manage to play on both US and EU realms, differentiating not only between same named realms, but same named toons on same named realms
23:02.01Bleetergaim's an open source cross-protocol instant messenger
23:02.08Adysha
23:02.14Adysaye i remember now
23:02.35Adysbleeter, if you got that you got two WoW folders
23:02.37Adysno other way
23:03.01AdysWoW.exe is by itself enGB, enUS, deDE or whatever
23:03.09Adysand you cant log onto US realms with an enGB
23:03.19Bleeteryar, fair call
23:03.21Adys(Im <pretty> sure of that)
23:03.30Bleeter<<on little coffee atm.. just more thinking out loud
23:03.40Adysits 1am here
23:04.29Bleeteryou'd have to save the logs globally, add in realm/faction/toon info ('coz you can't save per realm, only global and per char and per char would be pointless)
23:04.46Bleeteras I said, just thinking out loud
23:04.46Adysha
23:04.47Adysaye
23:04.56Adysno that'd be cool
23:05.06AdysIve got the logs saved from all my chars on the same file
23:05.09Adyswhich kinda sucks
23:05.14Adysbut i can deal with that, i dont have any alt
23:05.51Teomyrwow.exe by itself is either enUS or european
23:05.58Adysy
23:06.23Teomyrwhether its deDE/frFR/enGB is determined by a setting in the config.wtf, which explains why you can simply switch the language (now)
23:06.44Teomyrstill don't know why the bc installer classified my system as french :P
23:07.19Adysis it teo? oO
23:07.25Adysi didnt know that
23:07.34Adysthat explains quite much
23:07.38Adystho i do have a question
23:07.57AdysI reinstalled wow in french, and switched to english in patch 2.0.3
23:08.04KirkburnOh Angry Ogre, angry angry ogre
23:08.05Adyssince then, its been downloading english patches
23:08.08Adyslol kirk
23:08.12Bleeterhttp://img.worsethanfailure.com/images/200704/error'd/horse.jpg
23:08.20Adysyet, i still am able to switch to french
23:08.31Kirkburnhttp://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Racial_Terminology&diff=prev&oldid=574617
23:08.34AdysLOL bleeter
23:08.43KirkburnBleeter, rofl
23:08.47Teomyrlol
23:10.07KirkburnAO really is obsessed with perceived racism against the orcs
23:10.42KirkburnI want to shake him and shout "IT'S NOT REAL! IT'S JUST NOT REAL!"
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23:11.16Teomyri don't know why blizzard is distributing different language versions of the patches. if it patches all languages, then what's the point of making 5 different releases of the same patch
23:11.21Kirkburnbleetah, in case you missed it: you got a rofl and two lols
23:11.29Bleeterhehe, i got it
23:12.04KirkburnIt seems angry ogre's week ban didn't really teach him much
23:12.28KirkburnHis first target when back was to complain about the "piggish" noses quote. Again.
23:12.29Adysthe patches are all languages teo?
23:12.43Adysthen, why do i have only frFR and enGB mpqs?
23:12.45Kirkburnhttp://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Talk:Half-orc&diff=prev&oldid=573539
23:12.52Teomyrthey must be, since you can switch to a different language version
23:13.16Adysthe thing is
23:13.27Teomyryou do? i've got mpqs for frFR, deDE and enGB oO
23:13.38Adysi dont have deDE
23:13.48Adysbtw, you should have the spanish one too then?
23:14.06Teomyri don't have them
23:14.20Adyshow did you get deDE and frFR without installing them then? oO
23:14.33KirkburnNow I'm obsessed with angry ogre :(
23:14.50Teomyri think they were installed from the dvd
23:14.54Teomyrerm, cds
23:15.00Teomyrwhen i installed bc
23:15.31Adyswell same here
23:15.36Adystho i had the french dvd
23:15.40KirkburnThis needs sorting methinks - http://www.wowwiki.com/Draenei_and_mounts
23:16.10Adyswtf
23:16.41KirkburnThe top picture is very nice at least
23:16.54KirkburnSomething could probably be done with that, but the rest are crap
23:17.03Teomyranother strange thing is that, even though the installer was completely in german, the default language for world of warcraft was set to french when i first logged in
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23:17.13KirkburnWhy the hell he thought having his helmet on would look good I don't know
23:17.18Teomyrit was funny for a while, but in the end i switched back to the deDE locale :D
23:17.49Teomyrarr, look at my raging berserk's helm i can wear now!
23:18.00KirkburnCrazy international people, solo enGB ftw
23:19.14Teomyrpff
23:20.26winkillerdeDE is sooo weird
23:20.31winkillerwith the translation
23:20.31winkiller*s
23:20.35winkilleras was Diablo2
23:21.02winkillerhorrible, I prefer the dumb english names to the even more dumb sounding german ones :P
23:21.17Bleeterall mobs, all npcs, all players... named Bruce
23:21.49Adyslol
23:22.03winkillerChuck is better
23:22.12Teomyri like the deDE localization. imo the only problem is that many things were badly localized in the beginning and most players stick to these names
23:22.14Bleeteri've got a gaim translation pack here for enAU that converts everything to 'Bruce'
23:22.38Bleeterwinkiller: Monty Python didn't make a brilliant skit out of the name 'Chuck' (to the best of my knowledge) :P
23:23.12winkillerbut Chuck Norris would roundhousekick Monty Python if all were alive
23:23.49Bleeteregads
23:24.08Bleeterbruce campbell > chuck norris, anyday
23:25.08KirkburnAnd Sheila, surely
23:25.46Kirkburn(I'm half expecting someone to say "don't call my Shirley!")
23:25.51Kirkburn*me
23:26.31Adys"People who think Google is some kind of natural-language parser make baby robo-Jesus cry."
23:26.34Adysawesome
23:35.14KirkburnBtw, do you remember Lucky 6.9?
23:36.20Grypheni does i does
23:36.34KirkburnHe or she has left wikipedia
23:36.50Gryphenthe real one i assume?
23:36.51Gryphenheh
23:36.51KirkburnVery shortly afterwards, in fact
23:36.59KirkburnYeah, the real one :)
23:40.29Gryphen"Wikistress is over the top"
23:40.30Gryphenlol
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23:42.24Adyslol
23:42.50AdysDoes wikipedia have an entry on Wikistress?
23:43.22winkillerbleetah: I doubt Monty Python knew Bruce Campbell, wasn't that 10 years later?
23:45.50Kirkburnomg
23:45.59KirkburnTooj117 is a well known wikipedia vandal
23:46.12Kirkburnaka The Geek Vandal
23:47.34Bleeterwinkiller: and iirc the monty python 'bruces' skit predates norris' move from karate to films where he became more widely known
23:47.34Kirkburnhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Long_term_abuse#Tooj117.2FThe_Geek_Vandal
23:47.45winkillerbleetah: probably :)
23:47.52KirkburnTooj117 is a vandal that started vandalizing the page Geek by repetedly adding a ridiculous picure of a stereotypical geek. The vandal the began adding this picture on various pages, or just doing other vandalism such as page blanking, and false information. The user was blocked indefinitely. Tooj117 kept creating sockpuppets and had accounts doing the same vandalism from different IPs. The vandalism by tooj117 of the
23:47.52Kirkburnpage geek still happens frequently, but not nearly as often as before. Tooj117 has claimed to be more than 3 people working as a "team" to create sockpuppets and vandalize pages.
23:50.28Bleeterseeing we're semi-ot...
23:50.31Bleeterhttp://www.liveleak.com/view?i=da0d3_4207 (definately nsfw)
23:50.31winkilleronly a true geek would perform such an act to vandalizr :P
23:50.51GryphenAdys yes
23:50.55Gryphenheh
23:51.02Adyslol
23:51.20Gryphenand wikivacation or something like that
23:51.24KirkburnBasically, he's obssessed with that Geek image and he often impersonates admins or attacks them
23:51.49Adyslol
23:52.34Adyswhy cant be have the piccie of the geek ? :(
23:53.07Adyshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/Tooj117 good lord
23:53.29AdysThis almost makes me think of official police archives
23:59.50Teomyrgood night!
23:59.56Kirkburnnight!

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