| 00:00.08 | Kirkburn|afk | The line should still say Scourge & Forsaken, especially since Sylvanas is on the line |
| 00:01.09 | Skyfire | i'm going to merge [[high elves]] & [[blood elves]] with [[naga]] to make [[highborne]] |
| 00:01.12 | Skyfire | ok w/ you? |
| 00:01.16 | Skyfire | or no... |
| 00:01.18 | Skyfire | hm |
| 00:01.20 | Kirkburn|afk | No! |
| 00:01.24 | Kirkburn|afk | The Highborne aren't in WC3 |
| 00:01.28 | Thrae | It depends on if Sylvanus and her minions were still loyal to the Burning Legion |
| 00:01.29 | Karrius | Those are three really broad groups... |
| 00:01.32 | Kirkburn|afk | High elves, blood elves and naga are |
| 00:01.46 | Karrius | Trae- When |
| 00:01.46 | Karrius | ? |
| 00:01.49 | Skyfire | all highborne decendents |
| 00:01.56 | Adys | Why people keep calling her Sylvanus? |
| 00:02.00 | Kirkburn|afk | They're not Highborne though |
| 00:02.05 | Skyfire | i know |
| 00:02.09 | Skyfire | and that's the issue >_< |
| 00:02.21 | Thrae | I think the Scourge are only those loyal to the Burning Legion, where as Sylvanus retained loyalty to the memory of the Lich King |
| 00:02.31 | Kirkburn|afk | Go by the races that actually exist in WC3+TFT |
| 00:02.34 | Karrius | The scourge aren't loyal to the burning legion at all. |
| 00:02.38 | Kirkburn|afk | Not what they were once or will become |
| 00:02.47 | Skyfire | works for me |
| 00:03.06 | Thrae | The Scourge were ochastrated by the Burning Legion, and subversively controlled? |
| 00:03.16 | Karrius | Hardly "loyal" :P |
| 00:03.49 | Bleeter | Kirkburn|afk: I know yer a pom, so prolly don't care much for cricket atm, but it's been confirmed that Bob Woolmer (Pakistan coach) was strangled :/ |
| 00:03.50 | Skyfire | lol |
| 00:03.58 | Thrae | OK, well then it depends if Sylvanus's crew was still under the influence of the Burning Legion, if Sylvanus was part of the "Scourge" |
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| 00:04.19 | Kirkburn|afk | Bleeter, aiee |
| 00:04.32 | Bleeter | to put it mildly... aye |
| 00:04.35 | Kirkburn|afk | Poor guy |
| 00:04.53 | Kirkburn|afk | I'd put Humans and Dwarves together |
| 00:04.54 | Karrius | Up until the undead missions of TFT, syalvanus was controlled. I believe it was the third undead mission in TFT when she switched sides. |
| 00:04.55 | Skyfire | eh, add akama somewhere also |
| 00:04.59 | Skyfire | prolly with naga |
| 00:05.03 | Skyfire | under draenei |
| 00:05.08 | Skyfire | mom is unhappy |
| 00:05.10 | Skyfire | i must go :x |
| 00:05.19 | Kirkburn|afk | I'll keep going with it |
| 00:05.42 | Skyfire | i'm uploading a version that looks like it's going to time out |
| 00:05.47 | Thrae | Skyfire: Tell her we're having serious historical and philosophical discussion on a fictional, game-inspired world |
| 00:05.59 | Thrae | Hence, educational! |
| 00:06.00 | Skyfire | oh yes, she'll understand |
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| 02:15.10 | sancus | Adys: unnecessary |
| 02:15.12 | sancus | the database is tiny |
| 02:15.20 | sancus | its only like 6 gigs |
| 02:15.27 | sancus | nothing |
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| 02:19.12 | barretj | hello |
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| 02:19.29 | barretj | can someone tell me what this thing is called? http://fflow.org/img/wow.png |
| 02:21.24 | Psyker7 | huh? |
| 02:21.54 | barretj | i saw that in darkshore |
| 02:21.59 | barretj | south of auberdine |
| 02:22.11 | Karrius | A scary tree? |
| 02:22.15 | barretj | lol |
| 02:23.56 | Psyker7 | .... where'd you get the picture of it but? |
| 02:24.23 | barretj | i took a screen capture |
| 02:24.42 | Psyker7 | that ain't a screen cap u got there..... |
| 02:24.53 | barretj | yes it is |
| 02:25.15 | barretj | i erased the irrelevant parts |
| 02:25.16 | Psyker7 | heavily edited.... /shrug |
| 02:25.18 | Psyker7 | lol |
| 02:26.03 | barretj | :) |
| 02:26.22 | Karrius | It's not really "edited" |
| 02:26.22 | Karrius | just... cropped. :p |
| 02:26.27 | barretj | right |
| 02:27.08 | barretj | i'm using it on a web page, and i want to set some alt text, but i dont know what its called, so thats why i asked in here |
| 02:27.42 | Psyker7 | 'random scary tree picture' |
| 02:28.03 | barretj | lol |
| 02:28.23 | Psyker7 | how big was it? |
| 02:28.25 | barretj | any idea where i might start looking on the wiki? |
| 02:28.30 | Psyker7 | its much harder to tell without context |
| 02:28.54 | barretj | ok, let me go take a full screencap again |
| 02:28.59 | barretj | ... |
| 02:28.59 | Bleeter | could be some kinda neutralized furbolg totem thing |
| 02:29.04 | Karrius | It's just a scary tree, I think |
| 02:29.11 | Psyker7 | i was thinking fence post for a bit... |
| 02:29.13 | Karrius | The place is cursed and all |
| 02:29.43 | Psyker7 | bah bloody sandstorms |
| 02:31.50 | barretj | crap, i think it was north of auberdine... |
| 02:32.13 | Psyker7 | shouldn't the original still be in ur screenshots folder? |
| 02:36.49 | barretj | no, i used print screen |
| 02:39.50 | Psyker7 | yeah, it still saves them to your screenshots folder then, as tga files |
| 02:40.36 | barretj | full screenshot: http://fflow.org/img/wow_full.png |
| 02:41.10 | barretj | and a map showing where i am: http://fflow.org/img/wow_map.png |
| 02:53.01 | Psyker7 | ooo... that is wierd |
| 02:53.24 | Psyker7 | carved tree post then =) |
| 02:53.38 | barretj | ok |
| 02:53.40 | barretj | heh |
| 02:53.54 | Psyker7 | the fact its on a tree stump lends to that.... |
| 02:58.10 | Kirkburn|afk | High-larious! http://www.joystiq.com/2007/03/22/loyalists-cry-over-devil-may-cry-on-xbox-360/ |
| 03:04.05 | Karrius | Some people are sore over having wasted their money... |
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| 03:25.55 | Adys2010 | rofl |
| 03:26.07 | Adys2010 | did anyone ever try changing password on their account |
| 03:26.10 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+o Adys] by ChanServ |
| 03:26.17 | Adys | first time I do it |
| 03:26.23 | Adys | "Congratulations! You've successfully changed your password! Tales of this historic moment will be told and retold down through the generations. Way to go!" |
| 04:25.26 | Adys | Does anyone know if the enchant Boar's Speed stacks with the pvp meta gems from the spirit shard thing in Terokkar? |
| 04:26.21 | Karrius | I don't think any speed boosts stack, ever. |
| 04:37.10 | Adys | Yeah saw that |
| 04:37.30 | Adys | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28280#c0z |
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| 04:41.59 | Skyfire | did anyone else knonw that <font color=red>(Red)</font> works for changning font? you don't have to use <span styel>ing |
| 04:43.21 | Skyfire | -.- |
| 04:44.25 | Karrius | IIRC, span is "preferred" over font. |
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| 04:51.05 | Skyfire | why? |
| 04:51.38 | Adys | font isnt supported by standards anymore i think |
| 04:51.43 | Skyfire | o |
| 04:53.16 | Karrius | It's a wc3 thing. |
| 04:53.20 | Karrius | w3c? |
| 04:53.23 | Karrius | I'm too tired to remember the name. |
| 04:53.26 | Karrius | You know, those guys. |
| 04:53.29 | Karrius | WHo tell people to do stuff. |
| 04:53.35 | Adys | w3c :P |
| 04:53.40 | Skyfire | wc3 |
| 04:53.41 | Skyfire | nub |
| 04:53.53 | Skyfire | >.> |
| 04:53.57 | Adys | WC3 is something else :P |
| 05:14.50 | Skyfire | mmm, nite guys |
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| 05:42.42 | Skyfire | adys |
| 05:42.47 | Adys | mm |
| 05:43.00 | Skyfire | can you delete http://www.wowwiki.com/Nightfall for me? |
| 05:43.06 | Skyfire | ;( |
| 05:43.13 | Adys | uh, why? |
| 05:43.23 | Skyfire | moving the weapon there |
| 05:43.28 | Adys | k |
| 05:43.30 | Adys | ill do that |
| 05:43.39 | Skyfire | i have a disambig statement at the weapon; i'll place one at the talent also |
| 05:44.12 | Adys | Hold on |
| 05:45.09 | Skyfire | hehe |
| 05:45.10 | Skyfire | >_> |
| 05:45.12 | Skyfire | <_< |
| 05:45.50 | Skyfire | it should properly be a disambig, but when kaso's bot goes through... |
| 05:46.05 | Adys | Kaso's bot will skip |
| 05:46.32 | Skyfire | eh. it won't be included properly in a page if we choose to do so :/ |
| 05:46.43 | Adys | Don't worry |
| 05:47.04 | Skyfire | hah |
| 05:47.20 | Skyfire | go you |
| 05:48.41 | Skyfire | lol |
| 05:49.16 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/Nightfall this should do |
| 05:49.24 | Adys | wil put a vote up tomorrow or something |
| 05:49.32 | Skyfire | for? |
| 05:49.40 | Adys | Item disambigs |
| 05:49.46 | Skyfire | ah |
| 05:49.50 | Skyfire | yeah... :o |
| 05:55.08 | Skyfire | oh, btw, |
| 05:56.08 | Skyfire | there's a battlegroup named nightfall |
| 05:56.08 | Skyfire | ;P |
| 05:57.23 | Skyfire | two of them |
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| 08:29.38 | Kirochi | Hi there |
| 08:29.48 | Kirochi | Is there any admin on ? |
| 08:35.09 | Peter | ? |
| 08:35.10 | Peter | of what |
| 08:35.19 | Kirochi | of wowwiki, dammit |
| 08:35.22 | Peter | lol |
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| 09:32.38 | kaso | The bot is gonna be running for a bit now, fairly long edit delay though cos im not sure how "well" the wiki is yet |
| 09:58.15 | xlvii | how much +hit rating should i have? i am a rogue, about to start raiding. |
| 10:08.56 | Peter | raiding at what level |
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| 10:54.57 | kaso | my grey items list is getting very long now (User:Kaso/Poor_Quality_Items) is there any inherent problems with big pages? or am i ok to contiune |
| 11:09.19 | Adys | Nope |
| 11:09.33 | Adys | big pages can get hard to edit, but for a bot it doesnt matter |
| 11:09.46 | Adys | I think we had a 500kb page long somewhere |
| 11:19.30 | kaso | good good |
| 11:19.58 | Bagginsww | So last night I finally got to see Raiders of the Lost Ark on the big screen, and I'll never be able too look at that movie the same way again. |
| 11:20.36 | Bagginsww | Its not nearly so impressive on smaller tvs :( |
| 11:20.47 | Adys | heh |
| 11:34.46 | Hobinheim|afk | kaso, where are you sourcing your stuff from? |
| 11:34.58 | kaso | the armory |
| 11:35.08 | Hobinheim|afk | wow you wrote an armory scraper |
| 11:35.13 | Hobinheim|afk | ?????????????????? |
| 11:35.26 | kaso | Well, just a simple xml parser |
| 11:35.27 | kaso | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/item-tooltip.xml?i=8491 |
| 11:35.47 | Hobinheim|afk | dude is that an item id at the end? |
| 11:36.14 | kaso | yes |
| 11:37.03 | kaso | whatcha getting at? |
| 11:41.07 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Short_Stories |
| 11:41.23 | Bagginsww | what other categories should that be added to? |
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| 11:42.12 | Mishara | ./wave |
| 11:50.16 | Bleeter | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:15.25 | Kirkburn|afk | Bleeter, you scared Mishara off :( |
| 12:16.24 | Kirkburn|afk | kaso, doesn't this give the opportunity to datamine? |
| 12:16.56 | kaso | not really |
| 12:17.06 | kaso | most items we shouldnt know about arent avaible |
| 12:17.22 | kaso | there are some execeptions, like the tooltip i have on User:KasoBot |
| 12:17.30 | kaso | but mostly its pretty well locked up |
| 12:17.51 | Kirkburn|afk | ah ok |
| 12:18.29 | kaso | infact there are quite a few items we should know about that arent on armory yet |
| 12:18.33 | Bleeter | Voon! |
| 12:18.43 | kaso | Razor edge magthedon/serpantshrine loot |
| 12:19.24 | kaso | also Kirkburn|afk good news! |
| 12:19.29 | Kirkburn|afk | oh aye? |
| 12:19.44 | kaso | i can pause without doing a empty loop now, so i can run bot whilst im playing wow :> |
| 12:19.50 | Kirkburn|afk | woot |
| 12:20.24 | kaso | forgot i could do os.execute("sleep "..time) because im on linux |
| 12:20.51 | Kirkburn|afk | Linux ftw I guess |
| 12:20.56 | kaso | havent you slept yet ? |
| 12:21.03 | Kirkburn|afk | um, no |
| 12:21.10 | kaso | owch |
| 12:21.22 | Kirkburn|afk | 22 hour day so far |
| 12:24.35 | Kirochi | hi again |
| 12:24.41 | Kirochi | kirkburn, are you there ? |
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| 12:25.49 | kaso | Kirkburn|afk, |
| 12:27.20 | Kirkburn|afk | I was resting :( |
| 12:27.22 | Kirkburn|afk | Hey Kirochi |
| 12:27.38 | kaso | You should turn off your monitor then so you dont get disturbed :> |
| 12:27.44 | Kirkburn|afk | It beeped |
| 12:27.51 | kaso | and speakers! |
| 12:28.07 | Kirkburn|afk | Now I can't see what I'm typing! :P |
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| 12:29.01 | Adys | Morning kirk |
| 12:29.06 | Adys | and kaso! |
| 12:29.10 | kaso | morning |
| 12:30.15 | Kirkburn|afk | *again |
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| 12:44.16 | Kirochi | hi again |
| 12:44.20 | Kirochi | kirkburn, are you there ? |
| 12:44.43 | Kirkburn|afk | yes |
| 12:44.58 | Kirochi | could you tell me |
| 12:45.20 | Kirochi | what are the red exclamation marks next to the pages' names on my watchlist ? |
| 12:45.43 | Kirkburn|afk | They show whether an edit has been patrolled |
| 12:45.57 | Kirkburn|afk | Anyone in the "patrollers" group can mark an edit as patrolled |
| 12:46.10 | Kirkburn|afk | Edit which aren't checked are marked with the ! |
| 12:46.40 | Kirochi | ok |
| 12:46.45 | Kirochi | but I'm a patroller |
| 12:46.52 | Kirochi | how can I mark an edit ? |
| 12:47.04 | Kirkburn|afk | When you look at the diff link, it's on there |
| 12:47.17 | Kirkburn|afk | [Mark edit as patrolled], right column |
| 12:47.29 | Kirochi | Ok ! Thank you :=) |
| 12:47.37 | Kirkburn|afk | Also, in your Preferences-> Editing, second option from bottom, you can mark all your own edits as patrolled |
| 12:48.23 | Kirkburn|afk | Now I'm really afk, bbl |
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| 12:51.24 | kaso | k1rkburn needs to learn about the boy who cried wolf in relation to his perma-afk tag |
| 12:51.53 | Adys | God |
| 12:52.02 | Adys | Why did fandy restore {{poor}} |
| 12:53.28 | Kirochi | please may I get voice please please please ? |
| 12:55.56 | Tekkub | I think kirk's afk doesn't mean he is AFK... rather that he wishes he wasn't here |
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| 13:01.48 | Kirochi | wéééé \o/ |
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| 13:14.38 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Short_Stories |
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| 13:15.42 | Bagginsww | finished synopses of Shadows & Light's short stories |
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| 13:24.31 | p30n | nice nice |
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| 13:27.37 | uytuytuyt | can any1 tell me why girl on the picture on http://www.wowwiki.com/Silvermoon has to be almost naked? |
| 13:28.22 | uytuytuyt | seems like no1 can... ;( |
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| 13:28.58 | Bagginsww | eye candy :p |
| 13:30.18 | Tuqui-tuqui | thank you :) |
| 13:30.25 | Tuqui-tuqui | I mean sure, Im good looking |
| 13:30.34 | Tuqui-tuqui | but to be called eye candy is sych a compliment |
| 13:30.42 | Tuqui-tuqui | such* |
| 13:33.33 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 13:34.11 | kaso | The girl is almost naked because blizzard made her almost naked? |
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| 13:37.50 | Bagginsww | mostly nake is better than fully naked? |
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| 13:44.57 | Kirochi | cause she's a chick |
| 13:47.18 | Kirochi | http://www.wowwiki.com/Magistrix_Elosai |
| 13:47.19 | Kirochi | but why |
| 13:47.28 | Kirochi | does she have to wear a male wretched model ? |
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| 14:14.15 | Bagginsww | cause they didnt make a female wretched model? |
| 14:20.15 | winkiller | I rememebr seeing one |
| 14:20.21 | Tekkub | god damnit |
| 14:20.32 | Tekkub | bie bie 32g |
| 14:21.03 | Tekkub | wass looking at a staff at the CenRef vendor... twitched and accidentally right clicked |
| 14:23.05 | Tekkub | maybe I'll hold onte it... it drops my DPS by 3, but it did give me like 200 more HP |
| 14:23.19 | Tekkub | and it does hit harder |
| 14:24.16 | winkiller | the hauberk? |
| 14:24.26 | Tekkub | walking stick |
| 14:24.30 | winkiller | hm |
| 14:26.05 | Tekkub | I'll hold onto it, it give a run speed boost too |
| 14:27.41 | Tuqui-tuqui | use for kindling |
| 14:32.44 | Bagginsww | Hmm a week until LOTR beta, yay. |
| 14:32.51 | Tuqui-tuqui | :o |
| 14:32.57 | Tuqui-tuqui | you're signed up Bagginsww? |
| 14:33.02 | Bagginsww | ya |
| 14:33.06 | Tuqui-tuqui | I didnt even know they were doing beta :< |
| 14:33.10 | Tuqui-tuqui | what race are you choosing |
| 14:33.12 | Bagginsww | its preorder bonus |
| 14:33.15 | Tuqui-tuqui | any info you can give us? |
| 14:33.23 | Bagginsww | well let me say each race has a unqiue storyline |
| 14:33.29 | Bagginsww | so I'll probably be playing all 4 |
| 14:33.32 | Tuqui-tuqui | ahh... |
| 14:33.43 | Bagginsww | mainly dwarf and hobbit htough |
| 14:33.55 | Tuqui-tuqui | I wanna play a dark wraith :D |
| 14:34.07 | Bagginsww | LOL, its good guys only, except in PVP |
| 14:34.12 | Tuqui-tuqui | damn >.> |
| 14:34.17 | Tuqui-tuqui | oh that is BS :p |
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| 14:34.29 | Bagginsww | well its falling the books prett much |
| 14:34.31 | Bagginsww | *following |
| 14:34.40 | Bagginsww | that is bad guys can't win |
| 14:34.51 | Bagginsww | and its a journey of sourts |
| 14:34.52 | Tuqui-tuqui | so you would be playing the book storylines, not before not after |
| 14:34.53 | Bagginsww | *sorts |
| 14:34.58 | Bagginsww | during ya |
| 14:35.01 | Bagginsww | but its like a side story |
| 14:35.14 | Bagginsww | your characters interacts with what goes in the books |
| 14:35.14 | Tuqui-tuqui | hmm... |
| 14:35.17 | Tuqui-tuqui | then I wanna play a tree |
| 14:35.24 | Bagginsww | and I got to play stress test it was really well done |
| 14:35.34 | Tuqui-tuqui | :o |
| 14:35.38 | Tuqui-tuqui | any screenies? :D |
| 14:35.43 | Bagginsww | well choices are hobbit, human, dwarf and forest elves |
| 14:35.57 | Tuqui-tuqui | hmm... |
| 14:36.03 | Bagginsww | I might have taken a few screenshots, not sure were I put them :p |
| 14:36.04 | Tuqui-tuqui | all pretty classes :< |
| 14:36.07 | Tuqui-tuqui | lol |
| 14:36.15 | Tuqui-tuqui | casters amings them? |
| 14:36.19 | Tuqui-tuqui | amongst* |
| 14:36.21 | Bagginsww | well trees don't show up until the Two Towers |
| 14:36.24 | Bagginsww | ;) |
| 14:36.35 | Bagginsww | this game is essentially set during the first half of Fellowship |
| 14:36.35 | Tuqui-tuqui | :o |
| 14:36.50 | Bagginsww | later expansion should add in Moria |
| 14:37.01 | Bagginsww | but you can get as far as mountains |
| 14:37.03 | Tuqui-tuqui | ah |
| 14:37.06 | Tuqui-tuqui | coolio |
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| 14:37.19 | Tuqui-tuqui | aside hunters, rangers, warriors and most probably rogues |
| 14:37.23 | Tuqui-tuqui | any caster kinds? |
| 14:37.33 | Bagginsww | minstrells and lorekeepers |
| 14:37.41 | Bagginsww | minstrel is a buffing class |
| 14:37.48 | Tuqui-tuqui | like a priest? |
| 14:37.53 | Bagginsww | lorekeepers can cast a few spells by reading books |
| 14:38.00 | Bagginsww | ya minstrel has some healing spells |
| 14:38.12 | Tuqui-tuqui | wait, so there are no casting powerhouses? |
| 14:38.18 | Bagginsww | no mages, since mages are supposed to be rare according to the books |
| 14:38.33 | Bagginsww | well closest to casting powerhouse is the lorekeepers |
| 14:38.41 | Bagginsww | they just aren't "mages" |
| 14:38.50 | Tuqui-tuqui | so the game is based around melee? |
| 14:38.58 | Bagginsww | that's saved for individuals like Gandalf ;) |
| 14:39.05 | Tuqui-tuqui | nooo!!! |
| 14:39.08 | Tuqui-tuqui | curse you Gandalf!! |
| 14:39.10 | Bagginsww | well lorekeepers spells look like mage spells :p |
| 14:39.16 | Tuqui-tuqui | haha |
| 14:39.19 | Tuqui-tuqui | XD |
| 14:39.30 | Bagginsww | they are just lore wise not as powerful as actual mages |
| 14:40.12 | Bagginsww | there is a paladin like class to |
| 14:40.13 | Tuqui-tuqui | kk |
| 14:40.19 | Tuqui-tuqui | oh |
| 14:40.30 | Tuqui-tuqui | you mean a jack of all trades, a master of none? |
| 14:40.31 | Bagginsww | but I'd put lorekeepers almost druid like in nature |
| 14:40.39 | Bagginsww | just not shape shifting druid, classic druid |
| 14:41.05 | Bagginsww | well, paladin like class is more of a healer/meat shield |
| 14:41.26 | Bagginsww | let me see if I can get the class names |
| 14:41.32 | Tuqui-tuqui | kk |
| 14:41.37 | Bagginsww | rogue = burglar |
| 14:41.43 | Tuqui-tuqui | >.> |
| 14:41.51 | Bagginsww | burglar being the famous title Bilbo was given in The HObbi t;) |
| 14:42.02 | Bagginsww | http://www.lotro.com/index.php?page_id=73 |
| 14:42.37 | Bagginsww | lore-master can heal too apparently |
| 14:42.43 | Bagginsww | so ya very druid like |
| 14:43.13 | Tuqui-tuqui | hmm... |
| 14:43.22 | Tuqui-tuqui | I was really expecting a lot more varierty |
| 14:43.25 | Tuqui-tuqui | variety |
| 14:43.43 | Bagginsww | also the game is almost NWN like in some ways, alot of content is soloable or will scale to be soloable in instances if you can't find a party. Though loot table is apparently different |
| 14:43.46 | Tuqui-tuqui | Warhammer seems to be suffering from the same thing |
| 14:43.52 | Tuqui-tuqui | :o |
| 14:43.54 | Tuqui-tuqui | no way! |
| 14:43.59 | Tuqui-tuqui | solo an instance |
| 14:44.01 | Bagginsww | ya |
| 14:44.08 | Bagginsww | well not main dungeon instances |
| 14:44.12 | Bagginsww | but the story instances |
| 14:44.18 | Tuqui-tuqui | but wait, the reason I dont solo an instance its not because I cant... its because it freaking creeps me out |
| 14:44.19 | Bagginsww | theo nes that progress the world's story |
| 14:44.31 | Bagginsww | give you cutscenes and stuff |
| 14:44.54 | Tuqui-tuqui | :o |
| 14:44.56 | Tuqui-tuqui | schweet |
| 14:44.59 | Tuqui-tuqui | thats cool |
| 14:45.07 | Bagginsww | one of the early human instance newb zone is a nice tranquel city that's being besieged by bandits |
| 14:45.14 | Tuqui-tuqui | but still, im dissapointed in the lack of classes |
| 14:45.24 | Bagginsww | you can't leave the zone until you finish a unique quest chain |
| 14:45.33 | Bagginsww | this leads into a special battle instance |
| 14:45.37 | Bagginsww | where the city is being attacked |
| 14:45.50 | Bagginsww | you save people in the city |
| 14:45.57 | Bagginsww | then defeat the villain |
| 14:46.03 | Bagginsww | though one of htem gets away |
| 14:46.22 | Bagginsww | you get a nice little cutscen telling you what happened after that event |
| 14:46.32 | Tuqui-tuqui | nice |
| 14:46.40 | Tuqui-tuqui | can we still sign up for the beta? |
| 14:46.41 | Bagginsww | and you are left in Shire if you were playing a hobbit. |
| 14:46.45 | Tuqui-tuqui | or is it already closed |
| 14:46.55 | Bagginsww | uh its part of preorder bonus |
| 14:46.59 | Tuqui-tuqui | oh |
| 14:47.01 | Tuqui-tuqui | lol |
| 14:47.02 | Tuqui-tuqui | XD |
| 14:47.03 | Tuqui-tuqui | wait |
| 14:47.08 | Tuqui-tuqui | can I still pre-order? |
| 14:47.09 | Bagginsww | not sure about regular sign up |
| 14:47.10 | Bagginsww | ya |
| 14:47.15 | Tuqui-tuqui | hmm... |
| 14:47.21 | Bagginsww | open beta starts on 30th |
| 14:47.21 | Tuqui-tuqui | meh |
| 14:47.26 | Tuqui-tuqui | Ill just wait til the demo comes out |
| 14:47.29 | Tuqui-tuqui | :o |
| 14:47.32 | Tuqui-tuqui | I AM SO THERE! |
| 14:47.39 | Bagginsww | well my reason for preorder |
| 14:47.43 | Tuqui-tuqui | are you going to give Warhammer a try? |
| 14:47.44 | Bagginsww | is the preorder pricing plans |
| 14:47.58 | Bagginsww | no, not a warhammer fan. that is I don't know much about warhammer to care |
| 14:48.09 | Bagginsww | two choices of pricing plans |
| 14:48.14 | Tuqui-tuqui | :o |
| 14:48.20 | Bagginsww | 9.95 a month |
| 14:48.28 | Bagginsww | instead of from what I hear $15 |
| 14:48.36 | Tuqui-tuqui | ahhh |
| 14:48.37 | Bagginsww | or $199 one time pay |
| 14:48.42 | Tuqui-tuqui | AHHH |
| 14:48.48 | Bagginsww | I'm going one time pay |
| 14:48.58 | Tuqui-tuqui | you must have a lot of faith in the game |
| 14:49.22 | Bagginsww | 199 is only a little over 1 year subscription :p |
| 14:49.36 | Bagginsww | so if I play 2 years it pays for itself |
| 14:50.13 | Bagginsww | I spend about about 170 a year for Wow :P |
| 14:50.18 | Tuqui-tuqui | -.- |
| 14:50.25 | Bagginsww | so $200 is a bargain |
| 14:50.25 | Tuqui-tuqui | heh |
| 14:50.56 | Bagginsww | Believe me if Blizzard offered that option I'd take it up |
| 14:51.16 | Tuqui-tuqui | heh |
| 14:51.22 | Bagginsww | anycase that offer is only being offered to preorders |
| 14:51.23 | Tuqui-tuqui | hmm... |
| 14:51.31 | Tuqui-tuqui | I dont know if Id take something like that |
| 14:51.34 | Tuqui-tuqui | another game comes up |
| 14:51.35 | Bagginsww | most people will have to pay monthly or yearly |
| 14:51.37 | Tuqui-tuqui | and poof! |
| 14:51.42 | Tuqui-tuqui | money is ogne |
| 14:51.47 | Tuqui-tuqui | I prefer monthly |
| 14:51.50 | Tuqui-tuqui | it isnt much of a dent |
| 14:52.01 | Tuqui-tuqui | apparently, today is not spelling day |
| 14:52.03 | Bagginsww | I pay 6 months on WOW for the savings |
| 14:52.18 | Bagginsww | *pay for |
| 14:52.39 | Hobinheim|afk | stop talking about the little guys from lotr, i get pinged |
| 14:52.51 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 14:53.17 | Hobinheim|work | You DARE summon me?! |
| 14:53.58 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 14:54.14 | Tekkub | I don't like it here |
| 14:54.16 | Bagginsww | why does hobbit ping you? |
| 14:54.23 | Bagginsww | I'm the hobbit :) |
| 14:54.24 | Tekkub | because hobbits suck |
| 14:54.28 | Hobinheim|work | substring matching |
| 14:54.34 | Bagginsww | Tekkub sucks ;) |
| 14:55.21 | Bagginsww | so anyways tuqui after the town is sacked and burned to the ground |
| 14:55.28 | Bagginsww | next time you reach it, its still burned down |
| 14:55.55 | Bagginsww | Company has promised there are supposed to be other events that progress the world int eh same way |
| 14:56.05 | Tekkub | and they use hobbits as slaves to rebuild |
| 14:56.10 | Bagginsww | but all new players will be able to expereicne the old world |
| 14:56.18 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 14:56.44 | Tuqui-tuqui | I wanna play in Second Earth |
| 14:56.48 | Tuqui-tuqui | :p |
| 14:56.53 | Tuqui-tuqui | I wanna be a mage tree! |
| 14:56.57 | Tuqui-tuqui | MAGE TREE! |
| 14:57.11 | Tuqui-tuqui | but anyhoo, the idea of coming back and seeing the town still burned down |
| 14:57.14 | Tuqui-tuqui | my question is |
| 14:57.29 | Tuqui-tuqui | how many towns will there be for the numbers of new players coming in |
| 14:57.56 | Bagginsww | well basically there are 2 main towns |
| 14:58.05 | Bagginsww | and lots and lots of tiny villages |
| 14:58.12 | Bagginsww | shire is full of villages |
| 14:58.27 | Bagginsww | anyways, all 4 races have unique prologue levels |
| 14:58.41 | Bagginsww | thus the reason to at least try each race out :) |
| 14:58.42 | Tuqui-tuqui | I see |
| 14:58.49 | Tuqui-tuqui | gotcha |
| 14:58.54 | Tuqui-tuqui | what bout economy |
| 14:59.06 | Bagginsww | now elves and dwarves prologue levels lead to same city after the their intro levels |
| 14:59.21 | Bagginsww | they get instanced into a version of that city |
| 14:59.29 | p30n | ? |
| 14:59.43 | Bagginsww | well its whole region around the city too |
| 14:59.58 | Bagginsww | it acts like the starting zones in WoW |
| 15:00.09 | Bagginsww | quests to basically train you how to play |
| 15:00.12 | p30n | anyone know when we gonna be able to go into the emerald dream ? |
| 15:00.17 | Bagginsww | no |
| 15:00.44 | p30n | have any officials even hinted that it might be possible in the future tho ? |
| 15:00.48 | Bagginsww | once you follow the major story quest line and finish the major act story instance at the end |
| 15:00.57 | Bagginsww | elves and dwarves are set back in the town after the event |
| 15:01.13 | Tuqui-tuqui | I always thought druids were able to go in Emerald Dream now -.- |
| 15:01.20 | Bagginsww | yes it will be in the game in the future, at least some of the ocntent exists as we speak, but its unfinished |
| 15:01.25 | p30n | Tuqui-tuqui: how ? i dunno anything about that |
| 15:01.41 | p30n | only thing i know is the dragons that randomly spawn coems from that emereald dream |
| 15:01.47 | Tuqui-tuqui | ahh... well |
| 15:01.54 | Tuqui-tuqui | WoW site says that druids are able to do it |
| 15:01.58 | p30n | hm |
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| 15:02.02 | Bagginsww | now hobbits and humans go to that town I was telling you about earlier |
| 15:02.07 | Tuqui-tuqui | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:02.09 | p30n | not my 70 druid friend can |
| 15:02.10 | Bagginsww | at the end of their intro levels |
| 15:02.16 | Tuqui-tuqui | yeah Bagginsww, go on |
| 15:02.17 | p30n | or i dunno havent asked him latetly |
| 15:02.31 | p30n | anywho, im full of tyops so i better quit |
| 15:02.32 | p30n | later peeps |
| 15:02.33 | Bagginsww | after you finish the introductory quest,s and finish the main chian |
| 15:02.35 | Bagginsww | *chain |
| 15:02.47 | Bagginsww | you are put into the story instance of the town burning down |
| 15:02.57 | Tuqui-tuqui | cya p30n |
| 15:02.57 | Bagginsww | you have to help the citizens |
| 15:03.03 | Tuqui-tuqui | :o |
| 15:03.11 | Tuqui-tuqui | so the entire game is really interactive |
| 15:03.18 | Tuqui-tuqui | not just get quest from NPC and kill mobs |
| 15:03.23 | Bagginsww | now I was playing a hobbit, they were left in a village in the Shire. |
| 15:03.37 | Bagginsww | humans I assume are left there too, but not sure |
| 15:03.41 | Adys | Lo ClydeJr |
| 15:03.47 | Bagginsww | ya |
| 15:03.49 | ClydeJr | heya |
| 15:03.51 | Bagginsww | there are "chapters" |
| 15:03.57 | Bagginsww | which progress the storyline |
| 15:04.21 | Bagginsww | essentially how you follow events of the Fellowship and end up helping them out at various times during their journey |
| 15:05.34 | Bagginsww | I went to Bree, visited the Prancing Pony, and Strider was inside waiting for a couple of Hobbits, ;) |
| 15:05.41 | Tuqui-tuqui | :o |
| 15:05.45 | Tuqui-tuqui | schweet |
| 15:05.49 | Bagginsww | I wasn't high enough level but he had a quest mark over his head |
| 15:05.52 | Tuqui-tuqui | see thats the stuff I like |
| 15:06.14 | Tuqui-tuqui | so there are full out wars you can take part on :D |
| 15:06.19 | Tuqui-tuqui | I so wanna do that |
| 15:06.24 | Bagginsww | now the game is based directly off the books, so I followed the discripton of the tavern in the novel |
| 15:06.39 | Bagginsww | and followed my way back to where hobbits were going to stay in the Inn |
| 15:06.53 | Bagginsww | and it gave me a warning that I couldn't enter until I completed certain requirements |
| 15:07.12 | Bagginsww | so I'm guessing that strider is probably going ot have me check out the room after its attacked by the Nazgul :) |
| 15:07.39 | Bagginsww | Now once you get to level 10 or so |
| 15:07.42 | Tuqui-tuqui | NOW |
| 15:07.47 | Bagginsww | apparently you get access to PVP element |
| 15:07.47 | Tuqui-tuqui | now |
| 15:07.53 | Tuqui-tuqui | sorry for caps |
| 15:07.57 | Tuqui-tuqui | I was going to ask you about that |
| 15:08.02 | Bagginsww | which involves battles between hero races and villian races |
| 15:08.04 | Tuqui-tuqui | PvP, mounts and economy |
| 15:08.11 | Bagginsww | ok no mounts as of yet |
| 15:08.19 | Bagginsww | but you can rent horses between towns |
| 15:08.34 | Bagginsww | as long as you have the money |
| 15:08.41 | Bagginsww | its kind of like the flight path system |
| 15:08.45 | Tuqui-tuqui | hmm... pricey |
| 15:08.52 | Tuqui-tuqui | professions? |
| 15:08.59 | Bagginsww | it was on average 12 silver or so I think |
| 15:09.07 | Bagginsww | professions you can have 3 I think |
| 15:09.43 | Bagginsww | http://lotro.turbine.com/article/281 |
| 15:10.22 | Bagginsww | plus for fun you can find musical instruments |
| 15:10.28 | Bagginsww | and learn how to play them heh |
| 15:10.49 | Tuqui-tuqui | lol |
| 15:10.53 | Bagginsww | since alot of LOTR was based on music and poetry that was scattered throughout hte stories |
| 15:11.15 | Tuqui-tuqui | Im going to start my Goldshire rock band |
| 15:11.15 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 15:11.15 | Bagginsww | I like one of the emotes |
| 15:11.15 | Bagginsww | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:11.21 | Bagginsww | your character then pulls out a pipe |
| 15:11.28 | Bagginsww | then if you /smoke 1 |
| 15:11.39 | Bagginsww | your character coughs on the smoke |
| 15:12.07 | Tuqui-tuqui | lol |
| 15:13.45 | Bagginsww | farthest I traveled during stress test was through the old forest, to find Old Man Willow and Tom Bombadil |
| 15:13.55 | Bagginsww | well I got near weathertop too |
| 15:14.05 | Tuqui-tuqui | did you get to see other heroes? |
| 15:14.33 | Bagginsww | Uh ya Gandalf shows up in Dwarf prologue |
| 15:14.39 | Hobinheim|work | ok from now on those little guys from lotr will be called jello |
| 15:14.43 | Hobinheim|work | no more false pinging me |
| 15:14.43 | Bagginsww | which is set about 70 years before th main game |
| 15:15.08 | Bagginsww | jsut before "the Hobbit" |
| 15:15.34 | Bagginsww | when Gandalf is getting the dwarfs together to head to the Shire and get Bilbo |
| 15:16.06 | Bagginsww | in the same scene you can also interact with the dwarfs from the company :) |
| 15:16.17 | Bagginsww | Gimli, Gloin, etc etc |
| 15:16.48 | Bagginsww | oh as improvement over WoW npc interaction, nearly every NPC has something unique to say in text |
| 15:17.05 | Bagginsww | if you right click them |
| 15:17.21 | Bagginsww | hints, thoughts, every day beliefs, etc |
| 15:17.26 | Tuqui-tuqui | 4h k33lz j0o? |
| 15:17.38 | Bagginsww | almost like talking to villagers in final fantasy games |
| 15:17.38 | Tuqui-tuqui | hehe |
| 15:17.44 | Tuqui-tuqui | I mightt give the beta a try on the 30th |
| 15:17.47 | Tuqui-tuqui | sounds intersting |
| 15:17.49 | Bagginsww | heh |
| 15:18.24 | Bagginsww | Its not replacing WoW for me, but price is right to be a side game |
| 15:18.35 | Tuqui-tuqui | hah |
| 15:18.45 | Tuqui-tuqui | WoW takes all of my alone time :p |
| 15:18.49 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 15:19.00 | Hobinheim|work | HE WROTE THE JELLO, SIRS |
| 15:19.05 | Hobinheim|work | BEFORE THE JELLO, YOU MEAN |
| 15:19.14 | Bagginsww | I say hobbit I mean hobbit |
| 15:19.25 | Hobinheim|work | robot house@!!!!!!! |
| 15:19.31 | Bagginsww | The baggins is not some jiggly mass |
| 15:20.51 | Bagginsww | but ya, I'm playing LOTR for the immersion and storyline. WoW is still my primary raiding game |
| 15:21.36 | Bagginsww | also because its built around PVP not, pvp tossed in as a bonus, and a excuse to allow use of evil creatures |
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| 15:24.01 | Bagginsww | anycase, I must be leaving. Take care everyone |
| 15:25.11 | Tuqui-tuqui | cya Bagginsww |
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| 15:41.47 | Lysistrata | LoL WoWWiki got mentionend in a TV Show oO"" |
| 15:42.54 | Tuqui-tuqui | :o |
| 15:42.58 | Tuqui-tuqui | which one |
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| 15:56.53 | Adys | Kaso... |
| 15:57.07 | kaso | Yup? |
| 15:58.30 | Adys | mm |
| 15:59.01 | Adys | Ju |
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| 15:59.13 | kaso | Oh, i was just playing :> |
| 15:59.18 | Adys | >; |
| 15:59.33 | kaso | according to IRC specs ] is capital } |
| 16:03.46 | Adys | oO |
| 16:20.40 | kaso | Past 10000 on item IDs |
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| 16:25.29 | Adys | Nice one kaso |
| 16:25.32 | Adys | btw wowwiki seems down |
| 16:26.13 | kaso | it does? |
| 16:26.32 | kaso | my bot finished a few min ago so wasnt me :> |
| 16:26.53 | ClydeJr | I think it just gets slow ever now and then |
| 16:28.54 | ClydeJr | darn... didn't get to see the badger of justice... |
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| 16:59.10 | [GA]thejeni | I had a quick question about external links, is there some here who I can talk to? |
| 17:01.06 | Karrius | I suggest just shooting out the question. |
| 17:01.10 | Karrius | If anyone knows, they'll answer. |
| 17:02.14 | [GA]thejeni | I was wondering what the bias against all sites other than thot, wowhead, and alla is |
| 17:02.33 | [GA]thejeni | was hoping for an admin to explain things to me |
| 17:03.03 | kaso | The ones on elinks A) tend to be most popular B) use a ID system compatible with each other |
| 17:03.35 | [GA]thejeni | What do you mean by "compatible with eachother"? |
| 17:03.49 | kaso | Well they all use the same IDs for the same quests |
| 17:03.52 | kaso | eg the blizzard iDs |
| 17:03.54 | Karrius | Item "X" maybe be number "3000" in all of them, from what I understand. |
| 17:04.04 | Karrius | So going to "Item 3000" in any of the sites brings you to item X |
| 17:04.12 | [GA]thejeni | I see |
| 17:04.32 | kaso | I assume you are connected to a site that is not listed? |
| 17:04.49 | [GA]thejeni | No, the site I'm connected to is listed |
| 17:05.11 | kaso | Amp wow i guess? |
| 17:05.16 | [GA]thejeni | I am just wondering why when I add an external link to say a "boss" page, why it gets deleted even though the link had way more info than the 3 sites that are linked |
| 17:05.19 | ClydeJr | Not too long ago, thottbot was going to be dropped from item links since it used its own numbering system. They've changed since then |
| 17:05.31 | [GA]thejeni | AmpWoW/GameAmp, Kaso |
| 17:05.57 | kaso | There is a considerable anit-external link movement growing in the wiki at the moment |
| 17:06.08 | [GA]thejeni | So, no more external links? |
| 17:06.15 | [GA]thejeni | I shouldn't waste my time? |
| 17:06.21 | kaso | well not completely |
| 17:06.22 | Tekkub | it's not anti-elink (at least from me)... it's putting them all together |
| 17:06.31 | kaso | yah perhaps i missphrased that |
| 17:06.44 | kaso | but its just boss pages with 20 external links and crap |
| 17:06.46 | Tekkub | mixing elinks into an article shoes a specific bias |
| 17:07.06 | [GA]thejeni | I had been trying to add them to the "external link" page |
| 17:07.14 | [GA]thejeni | but I noticed today that a lot of those links have been removed |
| 17:07.19 | Tekkub | and exactly. every site is welcome to put up a link, but not litter links throught the page |
| 17:07.34 | [GA]thejeni | er "external link" section |
| 17:07.42 | Tekkub | I removed some dups that were'nt in the elink section, but I didn't remove ones that are |
| 17:07.50 | Tekkub | in fact I made you a template :P |
| 17:07.57 | [GA]thejeni | Yes, I saw that |
| 17:08.05 | [GA]thejeni | It is actually not your actions I was curious about |
| 17:08.15 | [GA]thejeni | I saw there was a "bot" removing some of the links |
| 17:08.19 | [GA]thejeni | and another admin who removed some |
| 17:08.30 | Tekkub | but aye, there's lots of pages where every quest link goes to thott or every item link is tailed with a wowhead link, and those need to get fixed |
| 17:08.44 | [GA]thejeni | Yeah, I can understand that |
| 17:08.54 | [GA]thejeni | and that was part of my curisoity about a bias |
| 17:09.11 | [GA]thejeni | I have seen those links all over the place, but I put up an external link (in the correct place) and it is deleted |
| 17:09.14 | Tekkub | what bot's removing? |
| 17:09.21 | [GA]thejeni | Let me find it |
| 17:09.48 | [GA]thejeni | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Watchoutbot has removed some |
| 17:09.50 | Tekkub | it shouldn't get deleted from elinks unless it's not appropriate to the page (i.e. you link just to a site, not to the site's info on the page's subject) |
| 17:10.02 | [GA]thejeni | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:VoidvectorBot removed others |
| 17:10.19 | [GA]thejeni | I always linked to the relevant page on the site |
| 17:11.40 | kaso | those bots are just doing template conversions its prob accidental the removeal |
| 17:11.56 | [GA]thejeni | "(Robot: Removing selflinks)" is accidental? |
| 17:12.20 | kaso | is that vvbot? |
| 17:12.23 | [GA]thejeni | yes |
| 17:12.55 | kaso | Im not entirely sure what hes doing so i cant really say |
| 17:13.08 | kaso | i know watchout is just template conversion |
| 17:13.36 | [GA]thejeni | I just wanted to check to see if it is a waste of time to link |
| 17:13.37 | Adys | Allakhazam will have to go at some point |
| 17:13.58 | Tekkub | erm? |
| 17:14.00 | [GA]thejeni | If you guys don't want the links, I won't put them up... but I wanted to check |
| 17:14.10 | Adys | As for ampwow.. |
| 17:14.10 | Tekkub | we don't not want links |
| 17:14.22 | Tekkub | just trying to get a consistant standard :) |
| 17:14.56 | [GA]thejeni | I understand that, Tekkub |
| 17:15.12 | Adys | As for Ampwow I don't know personally. To be really honest I have no problems with Ampwow replacing allakhazam on the elinksitem template, but 3 external links should be the limit |
| 17:15.17 | Adys | but this kind of things require votes |
| 17:15.44 | Adys | On boss pages, external links are welcome, but only in the external links section [GA]thejeni |
| 17:16.02 | [GA]thejeni | I understand that now |
| 17:16.16 | Tekkub | you know what? really the templates seem to be causing more and more animosity.... |
| 17:16.16 | [GA]thejeni | I had put up some links that I realized later were not appropriate w/ where they were put up |
| 17:16.28 | Tekkub | maybe we should say fuck the automatic templates |
| 17:16.35 | Adys | No kidding tekkub :P |
| 17:16.38 | Tekkub | if a site wants elinks, let them edit pages |
| 17:16.50 | [GA]thejeni | I thought that's how it was actually |
| 17:16.54 | Adys | For example [GA]thejeni |
| 17:16.56 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/Pathaleon_the_Calculator |
| 17:17.09 | Adys | The Map Location link shouldnt be there - there is an AmpWoW link at the bottom |
| 17:17.26 | Tekkub | exactly |
| 17:17.27 | [GA]thejeni | Yes, those would be the links I was talking about. I didn't understand the lay out at that point |
| 17:17.36 | Adys | No problems at all |
| 17:17.41 | [GA]thejeni | but I've been doing some reading on your policies and the chat and what since |
| 17:18.09 | Tekkub | elinks has been quite contraversial anyway |
| 17:18.20 | Tekkub | there's big hubbub over order |
| 17:18.28 | [GA]thejeni | yeah |
| 17:18.34 | [GA]thejeni | I read the discussion on the fansite page |
| 17:18.37 | [GA]thejeni | boggled my mind |
| 17:18.44 | Tekkub | one camp says "alpha" (which wolud throw amp near the top)... |
| 17:19.01 | Tekkub | some say traffic, which means thott instantly wins... |
| 17:19.14 | Tekkub | random would rock, but there's no real way to do that... |
| 17:19.25 | [GA]thejeni | LOL random could be intresting |
| 17:19.28 | Adys | Alpha? |
| 17:19.31 | Adys | what do you mean |
| 17:19.39 | [GA]thejeni | alphabetical |
| 17:19.40 | Karrius | Alphabetical |
| 17:19.44 | Adys | ah |
| 17:19.45 | Adys | lol |
| 17:19.48 | Karrius | And ampwow doesn't even seem to work for me. |
| 17:19.50 | Tekkub | hrm.... a bot could sweep pages and rearrange {{elink}} calls actually... |
| 17:19.51 | Karrius | So why list it first? :p |
| 17:19.59 | [GA]thejeni | AmpWoW doesn't work for you? |
| 17:20.03 | [GA]thejeni | You can't get on it? |
| 17:20.08 | Karrius | That's what I said, yes. |
| 17:20.15 | [GA]thejeni | OH very strange |
| 17:20.36 | Adys | [GA]thejeni: are you the webmaster of AmpWoW? or are you at least able to modify stuff server side |
| 17:20.45 | Tekkub | I like the idea of a randomizer bot now that I think about it :) |
| 17:20.51 | Adys | rofl tek |
| 17:20.57 | Adys | Would be awesome tbh |
| 17:21.04 | [GA]thejeni | No, I'm not the webmaster, I'm actually the Community Manager, I just let the webmasters know when there is a problem |
| 17:21.11 | Tekkub | just sweeps the wiki constantly and rearranges them :) |
| 17:21.33 | [GA]thejeni | That would be an intresting way of doing it, then no one could complain about the order |
| 17:21.41 | [GA]thejeni | I personally don't care about the order, to be honest. |
| 17:21.43 | Adys | Ok. Do you know if there is a possibility to have instant generated page IDs for mobs? |
| 17:21.45 | Adys | http://www.ampwow.com/wow/viewNewCreatures/19220-Pathaleon+the+Calculator.php |
| 17:21.55 | Adys | instead, is it possible to have http://www.ampwow.com/wow/viewNewCreatures/19220.php |
| 17:22.00 | Adys | something like that |
| 17:22.07 | [GA]thejeni | I can ask them |
| 17:22.27 | [GA]thejeni | I should be hearing from them either today or Monday |
| 17:22.40 | Adys | If it is possible, Elinks-NPC has a spot for AmpWoW (theres anyways only two params atm + the tb one which is optional |
| 17:22.42 | Adys | ) |
| 17:23.07 | Adys | And the more I think about it, the more I think Allakhazam should go tbh |
| 17:23.13 | Tekkub | same goes for faction ids too |
| 17:23.20 | Adys | Ya |
| 17:23.23 | Tekkub | why should alla go? |
| 17:23.26 | [GA]thejeni | I'll ask them next time I talk to them |
| 17:23.34 | Adys | Because they are shittier every "upgrade" |
| 17:23.48 | Tekkub | so? that's just opinion :P |
| 17:23.51 | Adys | personal opinions inside anyways |
| 17:24.06 | Tekkub | if shittyness were a valid factor I'd get rid of every thott link now |
| 17:24.28 | Adys | At least thott improved the past couple of upgrades |
| 17:24.50 | Adys | (They still got a LONG way to go but meh.) |
| 17:24.58 | Tekkub | yea I will say doing away with DE info was a major upgrade to their very dirty data |
| 17:25.07 | Adys | hahaha |
| 17:25.26 | Adys | WTS Morrowgrain |
| 17:26.01 | [GA]thejeni | I wouldn't ever suggest getting rid of thott links though, as no purtty as the site is, millions use it |
| 17:26.20 | [GA]thejeni | Never have been fond of Alla though, I just don't like how they are set up |
| 17:26.25 | [GA]thejeni | but I could be bias *grin* |
| 17:26.43 | Adys | Allakhazam is the fucking only website in this world using png icons |
| 17:27.19 | [GA]thejeni | Of course w/o the user comments, thottbot would be nothing... but they have a huge fanbase, so that's not much of an issue |
| 17:27.23 | Adys | besides, thott is gonna go away on the NPC pages |
| 17:28.03 | Adys | Idiotic retarded shit that gave them the idea to actually differency a young wolf level 1 and a young wolf level 2 |
| 17:28.20 | Adys | And yea Im in a grumpy mood >< |
| 17:28.36 | [GA]thejeni | It's Friday, you are supposed to be in a "Happy Friday" mood |
| 17:28.47 | Adys | i'm french, no one told you yet |
| 17:28.56 | [GA]thejeni | Oh... does that make a difference? |
| 17:29.01 | Adys | Big time |
| 17:29.05 | [GA]thejeni | The French don't like Fridays? |
| 17:29.23 | Adys | No they love it |
| 17:29.32 | Adys | Im supposed to be in a "Grumpy French Friday" mood |
| 17:29.38 | [GA]thejeni | Ohhhhh I see |
| 17:29.51 | Adys | So this chan is getting populated |
| 17:30.14 | Adys | We got Gryphen defending Thott, Skosiris defending Wowhead and now [GA]thejeni defending AmpWoW :P |
| 17:30.23 | Adys | Damn, we still need someone to defend allakhazam |
| 17:30.37 | [GA]thejeni | I was just wanting to know if there was a bias |
| 17:30.37 | Gryphen | :/ |
| 17:30.38 | Adys | See why I want to get rid of it? No one has the balls to stand up for them |
| 17:30.43 | Gryphen | there is bias |
| 17:30.52 | Adys | haha hey gryphen |
| 17:30.55 | Gryphen | if there wasnt, there would be a lot more than 4 listed |
| 17:31.03 | kaso | I like alla! there |
| 17:31.03 | Adys | And yeah |
| 17:31.10 | [GA]thejeni | I ment for people putting up external links |
| 17:31.19 | [GA]thejeni | and having them removed |
| 17:31.40 | Adys | External links are fine as long as it's not a totally unknown site repeating exactly what the other links give, tbh |
| 17:32.06 | Adys | AmpWoW is fine |
| 17:32.08 | [GA]thejeni | Well AmpWoW is a pretty new site, GameAmp is not |
| 17:33.02 | kaso | I must admit the ampwow logo on wiki is pretty crap |
| 17:33.12 | [GA]thejeni | You don't like Ampy? |
| 17:33.16 | [GA]thejeni | He is the mascot |
| 17:33.24 | kaso | Looks like a banana |
| 17:33.31 | [GA]thejeni | LOL I hear that a lot |
| 17:33.38 | [GA]thejeni | He is actually an amp |
| 17:33.40 | Karrius | ...wait, that ISN'T a banana |
| 17:33.42 | kaso | it could do to be upgraded to PNG with alpha tbh |
| 17:33.45 | Adys | It looks like much more in the mind of a french who hasnt slept for quite a while |
| 17:33.49 | Tekkub | seriously, the 'A' from the main page would look nicer |
| 17:34.03 | Adys | You can borrow the Allakhazam logo, will give us a reason to remove them :P |
| 17:34.31 | [GA]thejeni | I'll talk to the owners and see what they think |
| 17:34.36 | [GA]thejeni | they are very attached to Ampy |
| 17:35.10 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/AmpWoW |
| 17:35.11 | kaso | whatever you use a png with transparent background would be nice : |
| 17:35.14 | Adys | could use improvement |
| 17:35.32 | [GA]thejeni | Yes, Adys, it was one of them that created that page |
| 17:35.56 | [GA]thejeni | I'm still very, very new to the wiki thing, and trying to figure out all the coding and what not |
| 17:36.35 | Adys | Don't worry too much about it |
| 17:36.40 | Gryphen | i have no official defense for thott btw, i just prefer the site and don't usually care for new guys |
| 17:36.54 | Adys | thats call defense :P |
| 17:36.59 | Adys | s/call/called/ |
| 17:37.03 | [GA]thejeni | I like thott |
| 17:37.04 | Tekkub | :P we all have our pref gryph |
| 17:37.08 | [GA]thejeni | I use it quite a bit myself |
| 17:37.21 | Tekkub | and that's exactly why we should encoursage everyone to elink |
| 17:37.25 | Adys | I used to use Allakhazam and Thottbot at the same time |
| 17:37.26 | Gryphen | well i dont want to act as if i am talking for the site as others do |
| 17:37.27 | Tekkub | just in the right damn place |
| 17:37.32 | Gryphen | there is no connection |
| 17:37.33 | Adys | Thottbot for speed and ease |
| 17:37.37 | Adys | Allakhazam for accuracy |
| 17:37.53 | Adys | But wowhead is both fast/easy and accurate |
| 17:37.55 | [GA]thejeni | oh, I don't use thott for speed, it actually runs pretty slow for me most of the time |
| 17:38.10 | Tekkub | I go to thott as a slast resort for comments... and I usually get a very VERY high noise to signal ratio in thott's comments |
| 17:38.14 | Adys | Yea speed I mean also how simple the interface is |
| 17:38.21 | Gryphen | ive hear people say thott is slow for them, never seen it slow |
| 17:38.30 | Adys | Same, tbh |
| 17:38.30 | Gryphen | faster than any other site for me |
| 17:38.41 | Adys | I still sometimes go to Allakhazam for buyout medium prices |
| 17:38.52 | Adys | but since BC wowhead is much closer to reality than AK |
| 17:38.55 | [GA]thejeni | Durning the day the speed is fine, but at night (when I play) it runs very slow |
| 17:39.39 | Karrius | A database just cannot deal with measuring the prices of things in an auction economy. |
| 17:39.45 | Karrius | It'll never be accurate. |
| 17:39.54 | Adys | Aye but its a question of being close to reality |
| 17:40.24 | Adys | Some boe epics on AK (im thinking about a lvl 70 healing mace.. sin-something dont remember the name) is listed for 3000g |
| 17:40.35 | Adys | WH is at 800g avg, which is much closer to reality |
| 17:40.39 | Adys | now its a matter of luck |
| 17:40.55 | Adys | but having the human interaction into data like that to fix inaccurate things can help |
| 17:40.59 | Adys | which AK lacks |
| 17:41.28 | Tekkub | darqflame must be busy lately |
| 17:41.46 | Tekkub | she's an interesting one, we went to her place for an evening once |
| 17:42.11 | Adys | So tell me, is she sexy? |
| 17:42.14 | Karrius | The problem, Adys, is when sudden changes happen to the "system" to make an item more/less desirable. |
| 17:42.17 | Tekkub | no |
| 17:42.28 | Adys | So you are not gonna defend allakhazam either are you! |
| 17:42.34 | Adys | Band of cowards.. |
| 17:42.34 | Tekkub | she's just as chubby and nerdy as you |
| 17:42.41 | Adys | Ooh |
| 17:42.50 | Adys | you got her phone number? Im interested now |
| 17:43.00 | Tekkub | no, I don't do phones |
| 17:43.08 | [GA]thejeni | I don't think Alla deserves defending |
| 17:43.08 | Adys | aw |
| 17:43.16 | [GA]thejeni | but then, I am bias |
| 17:43.21 | Adys | :P |
| 17:43.32 | Adys | thejeni, if you could find us a way to auto generate a link to ampwow's npc pages by just having the NPC ID I'll take care of adding the site to elinks-NPC |
| 17:43.41 | Adys | It should be no problems at all |
| 17:43.57 | [GA]thejeni | I will see what I can do |
| 17:44.05 | [GA]thejeni | It might be something they are very intrested in |
| 17:44.27 | Adys | 'course they are, its just more advertising :P |
| 17:46.14 | Adys | # |
| 17:46.14 | Adys | # Karazhan ?(1,806,199 views) |
| 17:46.15 | Adys | # Comparison of Aldor and Scryer rewards ?(1,588,126 views) |
| 17:46.23 | Gryphen | thott's npc by id is ?b= |
| 17:46.37 | Adys | they got one gryph? |
| 17:46.37 | Gryphen | he doesnt combine results like the other sites |
| 17:47.14 | Gryphen | others take best guess on npc's |
| 17:47.30 | Adys | http://www.thottbot.com/?b=19220 |
| 17:47.40 | Adys | these results are scary |
| 17:47.59 | Adys | I dont get the system tho |
| 17:48.01 | Gryphen | that is cause the other sites hide the inaccuraces |
| 17:48.09 | Gryphen | spelled correctly* |
| 17:48.20 | Gryphen | inaccuracies* |
| 17:48.48 | Gryphen | npc's arent as definitive as items |
| 17:49.14 | SysTem-X | anyone play dwarf hunter here? |
| 17:51.57 | Tuqui-tuqui | :o |
| 17:52.07 | Tekkub | yes |
| 17:54.55 | Adys | Shit, it definetly looks like a banana |
| 17:54.58 | Adys | What's an Amp anyways? |
| 17:55.03 | Adys | Im french, sorry |
| 17:55.10 | Karrius | It's the SI unit of electrical current. |
| 17:55.19 | Adys | Oh damnit |
| 17:55.25 | Adys | I thought it was some kind of fruit |
| 17:55.30 | Tuqui-tuqui | >.> |
| 17:55.34 | Tekkub | or an amplifier, usually for a stereo |
| 17:55.36 | Adys | No seriously |
| 17:55.43 | *** join/#wowwiki dok3Dal (n=dok@AStrasbourg-251-1-114-56.w90-26.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 17:56.33 | Adys | ARGH |
| 17:56.41 | Karrius | It's... what. The current that produces a force of 1x10^-6 N between two wires infinately long and 1m away? |
| 17:56.42 | Adys | http://www.ampwow.com/wow/viewReputation |
| 17:56.44 | Adys | FIX THIS! |
| 17:56.46 | Adys | its outland |
| 17:56.48 | Adys | not Outlands |
| 17:57.25 | Gryphen | i thought it was a banana |
| 17:57.27 | Gryphen | heh |
| 17:58.17 | Karrius | People who join instance groups when they can't actually go into the instance annoys me so much |
| 17:58.57 | Adys | Pugs ftl, heh |
| 17:59.25 | Adys | anyways |
| 17:59.30 | Adys | gonna hit the bed i think |
| 18:00.02 | Karrius | Night |
| 18:00.06 | Tuqui-tuqui | hit it hard |
| 18:02.51 | *** join/#wowwiki [GA]thejeni (n=thejeni@adsl-69-152-66-95.dsl.spfdmo.swbell.net) |
| 18:02.57 | [GA]thejeni | Yay! I got back on. |
| 18:03.06 | [GA]thejeni | Sorry about that, been having some DSL problems |
| 18:04.38 | Tuqui-tuqui | I forgive you |
| 18:04.43 | [GA]thejeni | Thanks |
| 18:05.19 | [GA]thejeni | But those I was talking to are now gone |
| 18:05.20 | [GA]thejeni | *sigh* |
| 18:08.58 | kaso | Adys sleeps unhealthy hours |
| 18:09.10 | [GA]thejeni | I see |
| 18:09.17 | [GA]thejeni | Isn't it still early over there though? |
| 18:09.33 | kaso | hes in france,he just went to bed at 19:00 |
| 18:09.48 | kaso | as in went to bed from last night :> |
| 18:09.48 | [GA]thejeni | wow, very early |
| 18:09.52 | [GA]thejeni | Ohhhhhh |
| 18:09.55 | [GA]thejeni | so super late |
| 18:09.55 | kaso | No very late :> |
| 18:09.58 | kaso | yaya |
| 18:10.06 | [GA]thejeni | You are right, unhealthy hours |
| 18:20.10 | SysTem-X | how do u get ancestory coins? |
| 18:20.12 | Tekkub | "The lesson learned here is that you can't copy a copyright notice that it copyrighted by its own copyright notice." |
| 18:32.23 | kaso | SysTem-X you get em during the luna festival |
| 18:32.27 | kaso | Chinese new year |
| 18:32.56 | winkiller | can I get a list of Tradeskill images? |
| 18:33.19 | winkiller | ah, nvm |
| 18:33.21 | kaso | images? |
| 18:33.22 | kaso | icons? |
| 18:33.33 | winkiller | icons |
| 18:33.41 | winkiller | still tribal/elem LW are missing |
| 18:33.56 | kaso | sure? we should have the full set of blizzard icons |
| 18:34.37 | winkiller | http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:WoW_Icons:_Trade |
| 18:34.39 | winkiller | vs: |
| 18:34.43 | winkiller | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=10660 |
| 18:34.56 | winkiller | and it shows up as this icon in your spellbook |
| 18:35.01 | kaso | Image:Spell_Fire_Volcano.png (tribal) |
| 18:35.10 | kaso | Image:Spell_Nature_NullWard.png (tribal |
| 18:35.15 | kaso | first was elemental sorry |
| 18:35.34 | winkiller | ok to add em to http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:WoW_Icons:_Trade |
| 18:35.40 | winkiller | *? hope so |
| 18:36.03 | kaso | You need to add [[Category:WoW Icons: Trade]] to the icon page |
| 18:36.11 | winkiller | ofc |
| 18:36.34 | *** part/#wowwiki [GA]thejeni (n=thejeni@adsl-69-152-66-95.dsl.spfdmo.swbell.net) |
| 18:36.43 | winkiller | result is the same for someone seeking it, imo |
| 18:36.50 | Tyka|Enigma | Kirkburn|afk? I think Toner is mudkipz... |
| 18:36.51 | winkiller | but my bad for stupid expression |
| 18:37.07 | kaso | Also |
| 18:37.11 | kaso | Image:INV_Misc_MonsterScales_03.png |
| 18:37.19 | winkiller | dragonscale |
| 18:37.25 | winkiller | thank you |
| 18:49.07 | Karrius | Best random vent comment ever: |
| 18:49.18 | Karrius | "Hey, Peg! I've got some meat for you." |
| 18:49.40 | Hobinheim|work | i hear that all the time |
| 18:53.13 | Karrius | http://www.360style.net/news128.html |
| 18:57.28 | Peter | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LV0xdAioM0zbZVVoZcEz0oz |
| 18:57.38 | Peter | any thoughts on my build? :> |
| 18:57.56 | Karrius | zomg nub u sux |
| 18:58.04 | Peter | :'/ |
| 18:58.15 | Karrius | What's your goal? |
| 18:58.50 | Peter | every day spec |
| 18:58.58 | Peter | enough to pvp and tank instances. not raids. |
| 18:59.13 | Karrius | Your points seem spread too thin |
| 18:59.51 | nemppu | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=TV0xdAioM0zbZVVoZf0t0h |
| 19:00.00 | nemppu | fixed your prot |
| 19:00.04 | Karrius | Any tank needs Improved Shield Block. Either you have it, or you have a DPS spec |
| 19:00.05 | nemppu | and left you with 2 points to spend |
| 19:00.14 | nemppu | id disagree |
| 19:00.35 | nemppu | you can get away with just the 14 points if you want to primarily spec for pvp / farming etc |
| 19:00.43 | nemppu | what's really important is defiance |
| 19:00.56 | nemppu | last stand is awesome too, and its awesome in pvp aswell |
| 19:01.12 | Karrius | agreed |
| 19:01.18 | nemppu | imp shield block merely lets you block another time with shield block |
| 19:01.28 | nemppu | and block reduces damage from one strike by what, 100-200 dmg? |
| 19:01.29 | nemppu | "yay" |
| 19:01.30 | Karrius | I still think the points are too thin, though |
| 19:01.37 | Peter | hmm |
| 19:01.40 | Peter | will try it out, i guess |
| 19:02.05 | nemppu | just for reference heroic underbog boglords hit for 6000 |
| 19:02.13 | nemppu | "yay block now he hit me for just 5800" |
| 19:02.18 | Peter | heh |
| 19:02.40 | Karrius | But things like 1 in improved taunt, 1 in improved cleave, seem too small |
| 19:03.09 | nemppu | dont get me wrong its worth taking by all means, if you spec prot. but if you just want to spec for pvp/farming and still have 5man viability its not worth it, those points are needed elsewhere |
| 19:07.25 | nemppu | Peter how does this look to you? http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=pV0xdNioM0zbZVVzcZf0t0h tried to keep as much of the things you originally wanted, likenot past mortal strike in arms and the 10+ points in fury |
| 19:07.47 | Peter | nod, interesting |
| 19:08.03 | Peter | is it viable to go past MS in Arms? |
| 19:08.07 | Peter | dont see many full arms warriors |
| 19:08.11 | nemppu | yeah |
| 19:08.18 | Karrius | That one I like. Piercing Howl is my favorite PVP talent for warriors. |
| 19:08.22 | nemppu | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=TV0xdAioMzzioVZf0t0h |
| 19:08.29 | nemppu | something like this |
| 19:08.38 | nemppu | there's one point not spent you can basically put it where you desire =) |
| 19:10.20 | nemppu | i think i leveled to 70 with this spec: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LV0xdNioMczioVZf0t0h worked fine for me, mortal strike, imp. mortal strike and endless rage are very nice for pvp and solo farming and the 14 points give you the viability to tank in 5mans :) |
| 19:12.57 | Karrius | I'd imagine that Endless Rage gives you a ton more rage than Unbridled Wrath? |
| 19:13.46 | nemppu | if youre MS, yes, but for DW unbrindled is definitely the way to go |
| 19:13.51 | nemppu | by MS i mean 2hander |
| 19:14.43 | Karrius | Yeah, I know. |
| 19:14.51 | Karrius | I used to play a warrior |
| 19:18.13 | ClydeJr | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=TAM0dIioMhdVoVVzZcxo my warrior's build right now. Good for soloing and PVP, decent for tanking the 5mans |
| 19:19.34 | Peter | that looks good |
| 19:19.45 | Peter | cant imagine not having pericing howl :o |
| 19:21.23 | Bagginsww | finished short story synopses up to Lands of Conflict |
| 19:22.52 | Peter | mm i need a big axe :( |
| 19:23.12 | nemppu | what level are you peter |
| 19:23.40 | Peter | my hunter is 70 and warr is 63 |
| 19:24.07 | nemppu | ok on your hunter you should run shadow labs for sonic spear from murmur |
| 19:24.20 | nemppu | on warrior.. hmm. there's a good axe from the endguy of Blood Furnace |
| 19:24.27 | Peter | i have sonic spear on hunter :> |
| 19:24.32 | nemppu | nice ^^ |
| 19:24.43 | Peter | not a bad warrior polearm i guess |
| 19:24.45 | nemppu | got it enchanted? |
| 19:24.52 | Peter | not yet. |
| 19:25.49 | Peter | should roll blacksmith :P |
| 19:25.52 | nemppu | anyway gonna watch some stargate now, best of luck to you peter |
| 19:25.56 | ClydeJr | I use http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27986 Crow Wing Reaper on my warrior, from final boss in setthek |
| 19:25.59 | nemppu | no you shouldnt TBC blacksmithing is utter crap |
| 19:25.59 | Peter | likewise :) |
| 19:26.01 | nemppu | especially armoursmith |
| 19:26.08 | Peter | nice weapons :F |
| 19:27.21 | ClydeJr | <--371 armorsmith :( I keep hoping they'll add a BoP shield plan |
| 19:27.29 | Peter | sif |
| 19:27.47 | nemppu | ClydeJr I already gave up |
| 19:27.52 | nemppu | clyde btw respeccing is super easy |
| 19:28.22 | nemppu | just go to IF, talk to the guy you dont want to be an useless specced armoursmith, then just talk to the other guy for weaponsmith, and then go to everlook talk to hammersmith and ta-da youre a hammersmith |
| 19:28.30 | nemppu | costs 100g and its done in 10 min |
| 19:28.33 | nemppu | no quests whatsoever |
| 19:28.38 | ClydeJr | ya, I know, I haven't made any of the BoP stuff yet so I've been trying to decide if I want to switch to axe |
| 19:28.50 | nemppu | newsflash: |
| 19:28.56 | nemppu | currently there are no armorsmith specific stuff |
| 19:29.00 | nemppu | except for the crap pvp chest |
| 19:29.02 | Peter | yet :> |
| 19:29.16 | nemppu | well if they add some imba armorsmith stuff ill probably burst out crying |
| 19:29.19 | nemppu | but thats another matter then |
| 19:29.22 | nemppu | anyway stargate --> |
| 19:29.40 | ClydeJr | yeah, I can make a so-so plate chest or a shammy mail chest (whee :P) |
| 19:30.20 | kuinkala | whee |
| 19:31.28 | Peter | europe account management down, weak |
| 19:34.20 | Peter | my fonts have changed in game, really bizarre |
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| 19:36.05 | Patrigan-Syldra | Just wondering |
| 19:36.07 | kaso | Peter addon is the only thing that can do that |
| 19:36.18 | Patrigan-Syldra | am I supposed to see the Red Exclamation Marks? |
| 19:37.02 | kaso | yes |
| 19:37.03 | Patrigan-Syldra | in the Recently Changed that is :p |
| 19:37.05 | kaso | thats the RC patrol thing |
| 19:37.10 | Patrigan-Syldra | And I'm able to mark as Patrolled aswell |
| 19:37.19 | Patrigan-Syldra | Yeah I know that kaso |
| 19:37.20 | kaso | talk to Kirkburn|afk aou tit |
| 19:37.28 | Patrigan-Syldra | but I'm not part of it, afaik ... |
| 19:37.31 | Patrigan-Syldra | Kirkburn|afk |
| 19:37.34 | kaso | he went of on a RC'ing spree |
| 19:37.37 | Patrigan-Syldra | you be here, mon? |
| 19:38.08 | Patrigan-Syldra | well it's not that I bother though, I don't mind helping a hand out on there |
| 19:40.09 | kaso | Patrigan-Syldra goto your setting and set "mark my edits as patroled" |
| 19:42.25 | Patrigan-Syldra | oO |
| 19:43.05 | Patrigan-Syldra | Am I supposed to do that? :p |
| 19:43.34 | kaso | goto your preferences page |
| 19:43.39 | kaso | (to right) |
| 19:43.44 | kaso | click Editing |
| 19:43.47 | Patrigan-Syldra | yeah yeah, I know where to do it |
| 19:44.00 | Patrigan-Syldra | but like I said, I don't think I'm even supposed to have this power :) |
| 19:44.20 | kaso | as i say Kirkburn went on a RC'ing spree |
| 19:45.00 | Patrigan-Syldra | by just allowing everyone the power? I hope not :p |
| 19:45.32 | kaso | maybe he thought you were helpful? |
| 19:46.24 | Patrigan-Syldra | Well I do my best |
| 19:46.38 | Patrigan-Syldra | but I'm not overactive like many others :p |
| 19:46.55 | kaso | Well, if you're concerned bug him about it when he gets back |
| 19:48.11 | Patrigan-Syldra | I most probably will, don't want that some bug suddenly made everyoen RC Patrol :p |
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| 20:24.28 | Gryphen | uh |
| 20:24.30 | Gryphen | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/item-info.xml?i=29727 |
| 20:24.40 | Gryphen | lol |
| 20:25.20 | kaso | lol? |
| 20:25.46 | Gryphen | when did they add item? |
| 20:26.03 | Gryphen | why isnt it used for elinks |
| 20:26.21 | kaso | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/item-info.xml?i=30007 |
| 20:27.06 | kaso | Gryphen isnt a elinks to that pointless, it just shows the same as the wowwiki tooltip doesn |
| 20:27.07 | kaso | does |
| 20:27.24 | Gryphen | oh yeah, forgot about comments |
| 20:27.54 | Gryphen | and extended info i guess |
| 20:27.58 | Gryphen | brain fart |
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| 20:28.05 | kaso | hu? |
| 20:28.24 | Gryphen | reason why other elinks are used? |
| 20:28.35 | kaso | oh |
| 20:28.44 | kaso | gotcha |
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| 21:00.21 | Peter | can anyone recommend a decent place to farm netherweave cloth? |
| 21:00.57 | Karrius | I suggest anyplace you'd get aldor/scryer rep |
| 21:02.47 | ClydeJr | I farmed the ogre in the canyon to the north and south of Halaa. I was looking for a BS plan but I was also getting tons of netherweave and ogre necklaces for rep turnins |
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| 21:47.24 | kaso | yay \0/ |
| 22:05.49 | Peter | duuuude |
| 22:06.03 | Peter | nice plate armor gloves you can craft |
| 22:06.08 | Peter | "Gauntlets of the Iron Tower" |
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| 22:07.02 | Peter | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=23621 |
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| 22:09.26 | kaso | KasoBot, TEST |
| 22:09.31 | kaso | \o/ |
| 22:09.55 | Karrius | It's SHOWTIME! |
| 22:10.13 | kaso | It doesnt do anything interesting :> |
| 22:10.20 | Karrius | No lazer eyes? |
| 22:11.13 | kaso | just to allow people to shut off my bot if it runs amock on the wiki and i arent around |
| 22:11.21 | kindergip | !seen amro |
| 22:11.36 | kaso | ~ i think is what youre looking for |
| 22:11.46 | infobot | You think is what youre looking for? |
| 22:11.48 | kindergip | ~seen amro |
| 22:12.14 | infobot | amro is currently on #wowi-lounge (1h 39m 29s) #wowwiki (1h 39m 29s), last said: 'rundll32 is used for things like system control panels'. |
| 22:12.14 | kaso | Silly infobot! |
| 22:12.32 | kindergip | tnx infobot.....back to your nap.... |
| 22:21.50 | amro | spies! |
| 22:23.40 | amro | ~seen kindergip |
| 22:24.08 | infobot | kindergip is currently on #wowi-lounge (15m 8s) #wowwiki (15m 8s). Has said a total of 3 messages. Is idling for 11m 36s, last said: 'tnx infobot.....back to your nap....'. |
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| 23:00.51 | Patrigan-Syldra | Kirkburn |
| 23:01.30 | Patrigan-Syldra | kirky? |
| 23:01.32 | Patrigan-Syldra | you be here? |
| 23:02.27 | Peter | what resistance is the kara instance? |
| 23:13.03 | Tyka|Enigma | arcane |
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| 23:55.35 | Peter | wish there was a way to tell which instances you were attuned to |
