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| 00:11.18 | Litvan^afk | adys |
| 00:11.20 | Adys | alo alo |
| 00:11.48 | Adys | Yar litvan? |
| 00:12.06 | Litvan | think I have an explanation to what we talked about ingame |
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| 03:14.56 | Adys | More useless work for the botters! |
| 03:15.07 | Adys | # Deprecate {{500club}} / {{1000club}} / {{2500club}} / {{5000club}} / {{10000club}} / {{25000club}} / {{50000club}} for {{Wwclub}} - http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Bot_requests |
| 03:27.55 | Kaso | surely there cant be that much use of them |
| 03:28.05 | Adys | Nah |
| 03:28.20 | Adys | but I cant be arsed to do it manually, there has to be a good hundred in total :P |
| 03:29.54 | Kaso | Kaso's plan to annoy guild mates |
| 03:30.02 | Kaso | 1) make 50 stacks of Spiced bread |
| 03:30.14 | Kaso | 2) Write addon to mail bread to all guildies |
| 03:30.18 | Adys | lol |
| 03:30.53 | Kaso | 3) Repeat until desired effected is achived |
| 03:31.06 | Kaso | every day for a couple weeks should do it |
| 03:31.27 | Bleeter | surely a better 'annoying' mail, would be... 'Modtest, did you get this?' mails, which also deletes replies when they arrive in your mailbox so you don't get overly spammed ;) |
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| 03:38.51 | Adys | brb |
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| 04:27.08 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Sylvanas.jpg |
| 04:27.10 | Bagginsww | is that fanart? |
| 04:30.26 | Bagginsww | alright I've warned angry ogre for altering quotes again |
| 04:32.36 | Bagginsww | if he does it again he's going up on vandal page... |
| 04:32.45 | Bagginsww | as "suspect" |
| 04:39.02 | Bagginsww | anycase if that is fanart, I'd like to put a fanart comment into its disription line in the sylvanas topic. |
| 04:40.22 | Bleeter | Bagginsww: isn't Angry Ogre 'Mr Blood Elves are evil' or something? |
| 04:40.29 | Bagginsww | ya |
| 04:40.33 | Bagginsww | Most blood elves are not insane or evil - they just choose to fight fire with fire. They were suffering for lack fo the Sunwell; they all needed -- and still need -- to feed on arcane energies, even though most of them aren't spellcasters. The most powerful blood elf spellcasters are insane, as the magic they wield is corrupting.MG 64,65 |
| 04:40.44 | Bagginsww | since you brought it up LOL |
| 04:40.52 | Bagginsww | something I just added to blood elves culture thread |
| 04:41.28 | Bagginsww | I mean blood elves culture section |
| 04:41.38 | Bleeter | yup |
| 04:41.42 | Bleeter | and insane != evil |
| 04:41.48 | Bagginsww | ya |
| 04:41.58 | Bleeter | I'm insane, I wouldn't consider myself evil |
| 04:41.59 | Bagginsww | thouhg people can assume you are evil if youare insane ;) |
| 04:42.12 | Bagginsww | but its what you do with your insanity |
| 04:42.20 | Bagginsww | someon that kills kittens is evil |
| 04:42.26 | Bleeter | well, I guess it depends on how much she asked me to be evil, I guess |
| 04:42.34 | Bagginsww | she? |
| 04:42.46 | Bagginsww | oh you play a blood elf? |
| 04:42.47 | Bleeter | the hawt chick begging me, etc. etc. :P |
| 04:42.53 | Bagginsww | oh |
| 04:42.59 | Bleeter | no, head in gutter ;) |
| 04:43.05 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 04:43.19 | Bleeter | on the subject of kittens.. |
| 04:43.54 | Bagginsww | what the hell is 'dark destiny" bit that angry ogre keeps on spouting? |
| 04:44.21 | Bleeter | if every time you masturbate god kills a kitten... what happens when god masturbates? a kitten kills me? |
| 04:45.00 | Bleeter | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Every_time_you_masturbate..._God_kills_a_kitten (if you hadn't seen it before) |
| 04:46.41 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 04:47.14 | Bagginsww | ya that's a classic |
| 04:48.53 | Bagginsww | The history of the Blood Elves details how the exiled highborne arrived in Lordaeron, how the first alliance between High Elves and Humans was forged, and how the dark destiny of the Blood Elves finally became manifest in the aftermath of the Third War. |
| 04:48.59 | Bagginsww | ok so that's the dark destiny refrence |
| 04:49.43 | Bagginsww | uh what is their dark destiny>? |
| 04:49.43 | Bagginsww | Illidan's dark destiny? |
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| 05:00.38 | Pyrrhus | sup all |
| 05:01.58 | Bagginsww | hi |
| 05:07.44 | Bagginsww | so pyrrhus when official site mentions blood elves dark destiny would you interpret that to mean the blood elves allied with Kael'thas? |
| 05:14.04 | Bleeter | I'm not much of a lore expert.. well, none at all |
| 05:14.22 | Bleeter | end of third war.. that's what cut them off from everywhere else, yeah? |
| 05:16.18 | Bagginsww | end of third war was events of TFT pretty much |
| 05:16.50 | Bagginsww | kaelthas joins naga and illidan blah blah |
| 05:17.42 | Pyrrhus | Anyone here know lots about manual transmissions? |
| 05:18.00 | Bagginsww | oh apparently there are more blood elves left in on azeroth than went to outland |
| 05:18.27 | Pyrrhus | lol |
| 05:18.52 | Bagginsww | strange eh? |
| 05:19.38 | Pyrrhus | so no transmission experts on ? :) |
| 05:19.55 | Bagginsww | I'm lore expert, not technical ;) |
| 05:20.05 | Pyrrhus | lol |
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| 05:21.10 | Bagginsww | actually I wouldnt say I'm so much of a lore expert just that I have access to all the sources, and can easily look up something if need arises LOL |
| 05:21.34 | Bagginsww | although I know where to look up stuff usually heh heh |
| 05:21.43 | Bagginsww | but its not flash burned into my memory of course |
| 05:22.18 | Pyrrhus | :( my tans is meesing up lol |
| 05:22.21 | Pyrrhus | trans |
| 05:22.26 | Pyrrhus | your lore cant help lol |
| 05:23.10 | Bagginsww | I don't have the power |
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| 06:33.43 | Pyrrhus | haha that whatbitch is funny looking ;) |
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| 07:51.26 | Adys | Anyone around speaks german? |
| 07:55.36 | Bleeter | Volkswagen! |
| 07:55.40 | Bleeter | Lufthansa! |
| 07:56.16 | Adys | lol |
| 08:10.32 | Adys | :p |
| 08:12.51 | Litvan | so you are alive :P |
| 08:17.04 | Litvan | or not :) |
| 08:20.11 | Adys | im alove when you say "adys" |
| 08:20.14 | Adys | alive... |
| 08:20.26 | Bleeter | Mercedes! |
| 08:20.38 | Bleeter | although, I'm lead to believe, that's Spanish |
| 08:21.05 | Bleeter | meh, u r all EU, l2speek EU :P |
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| 09:04.16 | Adys | dingdingding |
| 09:04.38 | Litvan^afk | :) |
| 09:05.08 | Adys | Litvan fix your Away spam |
| 09:05.49 | Litvan | I just did... |
| 09:06.45 | Adys | http://forums.sourcepeek.com/discussion/60/lol-zam/#Item_0 |
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| 12:04.10 | Adys | Good night peeps |
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| 12:14.56 | xlvii | uh. |
| 12:14.58 | xlvii | question |
| 12:15.32 | xlvii | does anyone know of a decent dkp 'system'? with karazhan items, etc. |
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| 13:25.24 | kaso | I've never fully understood the messaging system in mediawiki, whats the "correct" way to carry out a discussion by your talk page, reply on your page? reply on the senders page? |
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| 13:49.03 | Bibi`sleep | excuse me, can i remove the link to http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g269/nikki_soltys/diagram.png on the Gruul page ? |
| 13:49.19 | Bibi`sleep | i'm not an expert in photoshoping, but it sure look like the strategy from my website ^^ http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?page=104 |
| 13:51.24 | Tuqui-tuqui | it is the strategy from your site :p |
| 13:51.37 | Bibi`ouF | o rly ? :p |
| 13:51.58 | Tuqui-tuqui | well I didnt do it :D |
| 13:52.05 | Bibi`ouF | bah i'll just remove it |
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| 14:04.06 | equiraptor | It's maint. |
| 14:04.18 | Tuqui-tuqui | BWAHAHAHA |
| 14:04.20 | Tuqui-tuqui | pwn3d? |
| 14:17.25 | kaso | haha i love the lazytown thing pasted over your logo Bibi`ouF |
| 14:18.08 | Bibi`ouF | i have to admit it made me laugh :p |
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| 14:33.09 | Kirkburn|afk | The new Google.com personalised homepages themes are coool :D |
| 14:39.34 | kaso | Why arent the shattrah peacekeepers humanoid i woman |
| 14:39.43 | kaso | s/woman/wonder/ |
| 14:40.03 | Kirkburn|afk | Freudian slip? |
| 14:40.09 | kaso | haha |
| 15:01.03 | Kirkburn|afk | I've decided to get rid of 'Teh Ownage' |
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| 15:15.13 | Montagg | Didn't seem to have any strong supporters. |
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| 15:16.31 | Kirkburn|afk | Heh, no |
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| 16:28.41 | Arkanjil | what's the best alliance PvP character? :P Thanks! |
| 16:29.27 | Kirkburn|afk | That's a ... hard question |
| 16:29.49 | Arkanjil | the balance in WoW annoys me sometimes :) |
| 16:30.19 | SysTem-X | 3 more hrs ! |
| 16:30.26 | Arkanjil | hmm, what are the best ones? |
| 16:30.35 | SysTem-X | dwarf hunter is the char im playing now Arkanjil, first one as well |
| 16:31.03 | Arkanjil | kk |
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| 16:40.12 | Tuqui-tuqui | pfftt... |
| 16:40.18 | Tuqui-tuqui | no one plays alliance |
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| 17:03.23 | Kirkburn|afk | Wiki slow for others? |
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| 18:38.14 | Bagginsww | gmorn |
| 18:44.58 | Bagginsww | anything new and interesting? |
| 18:45.15 | Kirkburn|afk | Heyo |
| 18:45.24 | Kirkburn|afk | I have a request! |
| 18:45.26 | Bagginsww | I think now that the manga is over, blizzard should go with a more traditional comic style |
| 18:45.38 | Kirkburn|afk | Can people go over the main race pages please |
| 18:45.47 | Bagginsww | looking for? |
| 18:45.52 | Kirkburn|afk | I've just given them all an overhaul to make them consistent |
| 18:46.04 | Kirkburn|afk | They just need a general push to be improved |
| 18:46.21 | Kirkburn|afk | I think the orc history section especially needs work |
| 18:46.38 | Hobinheim|work | i've been meaning to like... santize/reorganize any... "the same" articles |
| 18:46.41 | Hobinheim|work | mostly classes irks me |
| 18:46.48 | Hobinheim|work | but i would treat races the same way |
| 18:47.03 | Bagginsww | well kirburn could we sepearte the player's opinion and analysus to another page like we did with the draenei and blood elf controversy sections? |
| 18:47.11 | Hobinheim|work | they should all sound and look the same, but not |
| 18:47.17 | Hobinheim|work | and my internet is dying right now =( |
| 18:47.43 | Hobinheim|work | i.e.... grouped articles should be equally weighted |
| 18:47.48 | Hobinheim|work | and then anything crazy and heavy should be forked off |
| 18:48.00 | Kirkburn|afk | Bagginsww, certainly |
| 18:48.02 | Hobinheim|work | like i'm sure we have alot more to say about orcs than say blood elves or trolls |
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| 18:48.20 | Bagginsww | I've added practically all we know about gnome history |
| 18:48.59 | Kirkburn|afk | All the race pages now have the playable race stuff under it's own header (as it always should have been) |
| 18:49.08 | Kirkburn|afk | *its |
| 18:49.43 | Bagginsww | ok so what for a new title for that material? |
| 18:50.03 | Hobinheim|work | gnome history, they're short |
| 18:50.05 | Hobinheim|work | *rimshot* |
| 18:50.06 | Bagginsww | cause additional background (player's analysis blah blah is too long) |
| 18:50.09 | Kirkburn|afk | Forsaken analysis? |
| 18:50.10 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 18:50.17 | Bagginsww | ok that would work |
| 18:50.18 | Hobinheim|work | oh booo who redid the heading |
| 18:50.33 | Kirkburn|afk | Hob? |
| 18:51.14 | Kirkburn|afk | One thing we have to avoid is long reams of text - paragraphs should not be more than about 8-10 sentences at absolute most |
| 18:51.29 | Kirkburn|afk | And long sections /must/ me split up into relevant titles |
| 18:51.33 | Kirkburn|afk | *be |
| 18:51.39 | Bagginsww | ya I get a bit bugged when sections of speculative nature are almost as long as the main article LOL |
| 18:51.51 | Hobinheim|work | i kinda liked the old race/capital banners |
| 18:51.58 | Hobinheim|work | they were huge, wide eyesores |
| 18:51.58 | Hobinheim|work | haha |
| 18:52.16 | Kirkburn|afk | aaah |
| 18:52.34 | Hobinheim|work | imo the only downside was that the capital city one was really wide |
| 18:52.35 | Kirkburn|afk | I'm a little confused - see I thought those headers were quite old |
| 18:52.36 | Bagginsww | the old language banner was a nasty eye sore |
| 18:52.45 | Bagginsww | until they shrunk the text down and fixed the colors |
| 18:52.48 | Kirkburn|afk | Yet when I edited them they were created by Hob in jan? |
| 18:52.59 | Hobinheim|work | language i don't know what to do with, although the bright colors were pretty neat |
| 18:53.40 | Hobinheim|work | yeah i created the capital template |
| 18:53.47 | Kirkburn|afk | Ah, I seeee |
| 18:53.54 | Hobinheim|work | the lack of small caps makes the banner less punchy |
| 18:53.57 | Hobinheim|work | i kinda liked the punch |
| 18:54.14 | Kirkburn|afk | Completely out of whack with the rest of the wiki though :) |
| 18:54.21 | Hobinheim|work | right |
| 18:54.36 | Hobinheim|work | and i'll never remember how to spell or pronounce "shattrath" |
| 18:54.41 | Hobinheim|work | god what were they thinking |
| 18:54.45 | Kirkburn|afk | lol |
| 18:54.49 | Bagginsww | sigh I need to update leonid bartholomew's history |
| 18:54.53 | Hobinheim|work | i always want to say "strah tath" |
| 18:55.00 | Hobinheim|work | like "straholme" |
| 18:55.01 | Bagginsww | at least some clarifications |
| 18:55.18 | Bagginsww | as to the reason why he left banshee queen's service |
| 18:55.47 | Bagginsww | I say Shat-trath |
| 18:56.01 | Tekkub | I just say shatt |
| 18:56.08 | Bagginsww | like Sha'tar |
| 18:56.10 | Tekkub | like I shatt my pants |
| 18:56.11 | Kirkburn|afk | Hmm, should we have a {{races}} navbox? |
| 18:56.21 | Tekkub | Sha'tar == shatter |
| 18:56.28 | Kirkburn|afk | With all the major races? |
| 18:56.31 | Bagginsww | how many races do you want on that? |
| 18:56.44 | Kirkburn|afk | I'm gonna start on it, see how it goes |
| 18:56.50 | Kirkburn|afk | Most major ones, tbh |
| 18:56.55 | Bagginsww | by major you mean every representive model in game? |
| 18:57.00 | Kirkburn|afk | Lol, no |
| 18:57.06 | Kirkburn|afk | i.e. not squirrel |
| 18:57.31 | Bagginsww | well that' snot race |
| 18:57.32 | Bagginsww | I meant sentient |
| 18:57.32 | Kirkburn|afk | Speciesist |
| 18:57.52 | Kirkburn|afk | Well, are the Scourge sentient? :P |
| 18:57.52 | Bagginsww | mainly ya |
| 18:57.52 | Kirkburn|afk | Damn |
| 18:57.52 | Bagginsww | just controlled |
| 18:58.03 | Bagginsww | but most can talk |
| 18:58.10 | Bagginsww | and say their own thoughts |
| 18:58.25 | Bagginsww | although some are stupider than others heh heh |
| 18:58.25 | Kirkburn|afk | I'll base it upon {{factions}} |
| 18:58.38 | Bagginsww | ya that's not bad I suppose |
| 18:58.46 | Bagginsww | and you mean the main factions :) |
| 18:58.56 | Hobinheim|work | yay navbox |
| 18:59.17 | Hobinheim|work | there's a list of races in the race article, yeah? |
| 18:59.23 | Kirkburn|afk | Aye |
| 18:59.24 | Hobinheim|work | and i can barely type anything damn you internet |
| 18:59.28 | Bagginsww | I mean even a cat is sentient to some degree, but they can't talk |
| 18:59.36 | Kirkburn|afk | Meow >.< |
| 18:59.50 | Bagginsww | well as far as we know its not a formed language |
| 19:00.02 | Bagginsww | although it can convey certain meanings |
| 19:00.19 | Bagginsww | its definitely a form of communication |
| 19:00.19 | Tekkub | cats can talk just fine |
| 19:00.30 | Tekkub | you just have to be a bit abnormal to understand |
| 19:00.34 | Bagginsww | lol |
| 19:00.42 | Hobinheim|work | murloc, naga... |
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| 21:17.17 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Leper_gnome |
| 21:17.18 | Bagginsww | updated |
| 21:17.54 | Bagginsww | and ya that's drawn artwork, even if it looks practically the same as the models |
| 21:18.06 | Kaso | man |
| 21:18.14 | Kaso | i didnt even noitce that was a drawning |
| 21:19.09 | Bagginsww | ya, its crazy |
| 21:19.25 | Bagginsww | its in hte near same angle as the model before |
| 21:19.29 | Bagginsww | *below |
| 21:20.05 | Kaso | Ok, so the topic i came here to discuss before the gnome distracted me |
| 21:20.21 | Kaso | What would be an acceptable edit rate for a bot? |
| 21:20.35 | Kaso | at the moment its set to no more than 1 edit ever 10sec |
| 21:21.16 | Bagginsww | I'll leave that question to one the more technically inclined admins |
| 21:23.25 | Kaso | I just did 10 edit test, and i think everything is ready to run a large scale sweep of my bot |
| 21:24.28 | Kirkburn|afk | Together now ... awwwwwwww!!! http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/03/20/food-on-the-flying-mount-wing/ |
| 21:26.17 | Kaso | that cant be good for the screen |
| 21:26.29 | *** join/#wowwiki Adys (n=Miranda@APoitiers-256-1-152-222.w90-30.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 21:26.30 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+o Adys] by ChanServ |
| 21:28.38 | Kaso | Adys! maybe you can answer my question :> |
| 21:28.46 | Adys | ofc |
| 21:28.59 | Kaso | How much of a delay between my bot's edit shall i enforce |
| 21:29.09 | Kirkburn|afk | Adys, pour toi - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/03/20/food-on-the-flying-mount-wing/ (Meow!) |
| 21:29.11 | Gryphen | 30days |
| 21:29.20 | Adys | How many edits do you think there will be in total? |
| 21:29.26 | Gryphen | 2 |
| 21:30.04 | Kaso | Lots |
| 21:30.20 | Adys | its the tooltip thing? |
| 21:30.32 | Kaso | yes, i guess once im done a couple thousand maybe? |
| 21:30.43 | Kaso | but im planning of doing smaller "blocks" |
| 21:30.47 | Kaso | like maybe 500 or something |
| 21:31.01 | Kaso | 250 |
| 21:31.09 | Kaso | or 100 :> |
| 21:31.11 | Adys | try 20 seconds, if it causes problems increase to 30-35 |
| 21:31.23 | Kirkburn|afk | Spot the WoW reference! http://www.myextralife.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/robin-thing-1.jpeg |
| 21:31.43 | Kaso | On this first run through im limiting to green(non random stats), blue and epic |
| 21:31.57 | Kaso | i did a test run of ten edits just now: http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Contributions/KasoBot |
| 21:32.21 | Adys | dont see kirk |
| 21:32.32 | Adys | ah yeah |
| 21:32.34 | Kirkburn|afk | Gryphen, that's crazy talk! With that kind of speed, we'll never be able to keep up! :O |
| 21:32.34 | Adys | I see it :P |
| 21:32.37 | Karrius | Adys- It's really really tiny, on the document. "World of Warcraft UI site" or something |
| 21:32.45 | Gryphen | !! |
| 21:32.59 | Kirkburn|afk | I had to look it up :( |
| 21:33.50 | Hobinheim|work | i don't get it |
| 21:34.08 | Hobinheim|work | lol wtf |
| 21:34.18 | Hobinheim|work | worst copy ever |
| 21:34.30 | Karrius | May be an in-joke from the artist, may be that they just copied the document (I know FMA had a similiar little thing) |
| 21:34.52 | Kirkburn|afk | This is the page it's recreating - http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=3900 |
| 21:38.03 | Kaso | I'm running my bot now, shout me at me any time for it to stop. |
| 21:40.27 | Adys | wowwiki has a problem already |
| 21:41.03 | Kaso | yah i just noticed |
| 21:41.09 | Kaso | my bot threw me an error :< |
| 21:41.55 | Adys | Kaso |
| 21:41.58 | Adys | stop your bot |
| 21:42.00 | Kaso | i have |
| 21:42.14 | Kaso | it stopped as soon as wowwiki threw it an error |
| 21:42.17 | Adys | and launch it in 8 minutes or something |
| 21:42.23 | Kaso | hokay |
| 21:43.52 | Kirkburn|afk | Was going too fast? |
| 21:44.23 | Adys | Set it at 30 seconds |
| 21:44.50 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+v infobot] by Adys |
| 21:44.57 | Kaso | When it recieved the error it hadnt made a page in like 30 seconds |
| 21:45.08 | Kaso | more actually |
| 21:45.13 | winkiller | anyone ever seen a less sneaky, unobtrusive rogue? http://gallery.art-core.org/d/648-2/Tharabas_Shoulders.jpg |
| 21:45.14 | Kaso | over 1min i think |
| 21:45.27 | Kirkburn|afk | It may have been partly due to Mikkbot |
| 21:45.43 | Kirkburn|afk | That was running at about the same moment |
| 21:45.48 | Adys | Kaso |
| 21:45.53 | Kaso | mmhm |
| 21:46.08 | Adys | does your bot edit the two pages Poor Quality Items and random Suffix Items every time it finds a new one? |
| 21:46.30 | Kaso | no, it edits at the edit of the session |
| 21:46.41 | Adys | I guess you mean end |
| 21:46.51 | Kaso | yes |
| 21:46.52 | Kaso | end |
| 21:46.59 | Adys | k thats cool then |
| 21:47.04 | Kaso | or when the list gets to 50 items |
| 21:47.12 | Kaso | whichever comes first |
| 21:47.17 | Kirkburn|afk | Ah, wait, Mikkbot was over half an hour ago, this was a different moment, ignore my previous comment |
| 21:47.55 | Kaso | it used to do that Adys then i released that was stupid so i changed it a while back |
| 21:48.37 | Adys | righto |
| 21:48.37 | Kirkburn|afk | I think I may have found the reason |
| 21:48.37 | Kirkburn|afk | Server:Darksorrow Europe/Crafting |
| 21:48.44 | Kirkburn|afk | The page is full of the loot template |
| 21:49.31 | Kirkburn|afk | It's the only thing that occured at the same time |
| 21:51.02 | Kaso | So not me? phew |
| 21:51.20 | Kirkburn|afk | I can't imagine why it would be you anyway :) |
| 21:51.42 | Kirkburn|afk | Start it again :P |
| 21:51.55 | Adys | Wait a se |
| 21:51.56 | Adys | sec |
| 21:53.17 | Adys | ok go on |
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| 21:54.00 | Skyfire | ouch |
| 21:54.05 | Skyfire | that was harsh you two |
| 21:54.06 | Skyfire | lol |
| 21:54.07 | Kaso | going. |
| 21:54.19 | Kirkburn|afk | ? |
| 21:54.32 | Adys | btw kirk |
| 21:54.35 | Kaso | the bot is going i mean |
| 21:54.41 | Adys | you like my {{wwclub}}? :P |
| 21:54.48 | Bagginsww | ok kirburn gave him a 1 week ban. |
| 21:55.08 | Kirkburn|afk | Okay |
| 21:55.15 | Kirkburn|afk | Skyfire, about Angry Ogre? |
| 21:55.47 | Kirkburn|afk | He didn't actually check what he was changing, too |
| 21:56.05 | Kirkburn|afk | Wait, scratch that |
| 21:56.08 | Skyfire | lol |
| 21:56.09 | Kirkburn|afk | I need to check the history |
| 21:56.21 | Skyfire | i just saw that you both got after him |
| 21:56.33 | Bagginsww | its been an ongoing issue |
| 21:56.36 | Kirkburn|afk | Bagginsww, you're not registered again :P |
| 21:56.39 | Skyfire | lol |
| 21:56.43 | Bagginsww | registered? |
| 21:56.45 | Skyfire | yeah baggins, i know |
| 21:56.50 | Kirkburn|afk | With chanserv, here |
| 21:56.58 | Kirkburn|afk | Identified, I mean |
| 21:56.58 | Bagginsww | hmm |
| 21:57.17 | Kirkburn|afk | /ns identify <password> |
| 21:57.29 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+o Bagginsww] by ChanServ |
| 21:57.33 | Bagginsww | try now |
| 21:57.35 | Kirkburn|afk | tadaa |
| 21:57.40 | Bagginsww | some reason its not auto idenfity |
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| 21:57.55 | Kirkburn|afk | You have to set your client to do that |
| 21:59.01 | Bagginsww | I'm using xchat |
| 21:59.30 | Kaso | in xchat just put your nickserv password into the box on the network list |
| 21:59.30 | Kirkburn|afk | Same here |
| 21:59.38 | Kirkburn|afk | Yeah, as Kaso said |
| 21:59.49 | Kirkburn|afk | Bagginsww, left AO a note on this talk page |
| 22:00.11 | Kaso | I love xchat, without it my text would be un-intelligible due to all the spelling mistakes |
| 22:00.13 | Bagginsww | thanks |
| 22:00.57 | Skyfire | can someone please lock the goddamn guild boilerplate to editing |
| 22:01.30 | Kirkburn|afk | shall do |
| 22:01.35 | Skyfire | and then revert |
| 22:01.40 | Skyfire | i'll put the additions on a new page |
| 22:02.10 | Kirkburn|afk | Done |
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| 22:03.39 | Kaso | Ah i see people not quite understanding boilerplates, thats interesting |
| 22:05.05 | Bagginsww | so kirkburn I've looked up that thing he keeps on spouting aobut "dark destiny" |
| 22:05.08 | Bagginsww | not sure about the quote |
| 22:05.11 | Bagginsww | he said was altered |
| 22:05.29 | Bagginsww | but I've decided it was important enough mention that a section of the lbood elf article diservest o exist.. |
| 22:07.35 | Bagginsww | *diserves |
| 22:08.11 | Bagginsww | Dark Destiny |
| 22:08.11 | Bagginsww | The official blood elf webpage mentions blood elves having a "dark destiny"[7]. This likely refers to the fact that blood elves under Kael'thas had joined with the Burning Legion, under the demonic Illidan and the naga. This likely is not in reference to the majority of blood elves who were left on Azeroth that do not know about Kael'thas decision. Indeed many of those back on Azeroth choose to turn against Kael'thas when |
| 22:08.11 | Bagginsww | they learned of it. |
| 22:09.20 | Adys | k i removed all {{loot}} uses on http://www.wowwiki.com/Server:Darksorrow_Europe/Crafting |
| 22:09.40 | Skyfire | why did you do that? |
| 22:09.45 | Skyfire | what? |
| 22:09.58 | Adys | causing problems |
| 22:10.44 | Skyfire | huh |
| 22:11.14 | Kirkburn|afk | Also added a bit on the Half-orc talk page, Bagginsww |
| 22:11.19 | Bagginsww | k |
| 22:12.50 | Bagginsww | apparently from gist I get Angry Ogre must have at one time added a paraphrase or a quote stating that blood elves had a dark destiny and were 'evil" |
| 22:12.56 | Bagginsww | but he didn't cite his source |
| 22:13.00 | Bagginsww | and it was removed |
| 22:13.11 | Bagginsww | apparently he's held a grudge against that since then? |
| 22:13.21 | Kirkburn|afk | Silly, really |
| 22:13.23 | Bagginsww | and keep son using it as a reason to alter quotes in other threads |
| 22:14.02 | Bagginsww | now I found the refrence he keep son mentioning it diserves to be commented on, so i've done that, also added in citations |
| 22:14.26 | Bagginsww | but ya it was silly |
| 22:14.48 | Bagginsww | as for kirburn the clandestine love, and most being born during second and first wars |
| 22:14.51 | Bagginsww | that's in the books |
| 22:15.09 | Bagginsww | although not necessarily worded in that way LOL |
| 22:15.17 | Bagginsww | but very similar |
| 22:16.20 | Bagginsww | but if had to add that it should have been outside the citation page number and in its own sentence |
| 22:16.30 | Bagginsww | with its own page number citation |
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| 22:17.04 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+o Adys] by ChanServ |
| 22:17.11 | Adys | . |
| 22:17.13 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/Gloves_of_Holy_Might |
| 22:17.43 | Adys | we gonna need a bot to remove the {{icon}} thing too ^^ |
| 22:18.19 | Skyfire | oh yeah |
| 22:18.24 | Skyfire | wait, what? |
| 22:18.41 | Skyfire | oh yeah |
| 22:18.48 | Skyfire | isn't that already on the requests list though? |
| 22:19.34 | Skyfire | go go kaso |
| 22:19.43 | Skyfire | damn |
| 22:19.48 | Kaso | Yah |
| 22:19.50 | Skyfire | that's nuts... |
| 22:19.52 | Bagginsww | but ya other issue is its pretty much covered in the upper section, so its redundant inofo |
| 22:20.03 | Skyfire | it's so nice that i wont have to update tooltips anymore... |
| 22:20.06 | Skyfire | :] |
| 22:20.11 | Kaso | hehe |
| 22:20.35 | Skyfire | well, except for {{Spelllink|id}} :x |
| 22:20.44 | Kaso | I was so surprised that those glvoes vendored for less than 1 gold i had to check that edit to make sure it parsed the {{gsc}} properly :> |
| 22:20.47 | Kaso | Skyfire |
| 22:20.49 | Kirkburn|afk | I guess it's time to start adding {{races}}, much fun |
| 22:20.50 | Kaso | i fixed that |
| 22:21.14 | Skyfire | cool |
| 22:21.29 | Kaso | lemme find an example (i like to show off) |
| 22:21.51 | Skyfire | you sure? |
| 22:21.58 | Skyfire | http://www.wowwiki.com/Skullflame_Shield |
| 22:22.08 | Skyfire | should prolly have {{Spelllink}}s |
| 22:22.16 | Kirkburn|afk | Should we have a {{creatures}} one too to add to Weasel, Rabbit, Squirrel, etc :P |
| 22:22.24 | Skyfire | it does in fact kaso |
| 22:22.25 | Skyfire | :/ |
| 22:22.31 | Kirkburn|afk | Ooh, hey we could have a {{critter}} one :D |
| 22:22.35 | Kaso | it doesnt in the last version skyfire? |
| 22:22.40 | Kaso | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Skullflame_Shield&diff=552729&oldid=536010 |
| 22:23.02 | Skyfire | no, it doesn |
| 22:23.03 | Skyfire | t |
| 22:23.12 | Skyfire | oh |
| 22:23.15 | Kaso | Well i cant add them from no-where |
| 22:23.23 | Kaso | but if they were there before they will be used |
| 22:23.23 | Skyfire | you're only using {{Spelllink}} if they id is alreayd there |
| 22:23.27 | Skyfire | duh |
| 22:23.27 | Skyfire | lol |
| 22:23.29 | Skyfire | gg me |
| 22:23.30 | Kaso | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Staff_of_Dominance&diff=547564&oldid=531844 |
| 22:23.32 | Kaso | like that |
| 22:24.26 | Kirkburn|afk | I see I just spurred Bagginsww into action |
| 22:24.33 | Skyfire | cool cool |
| 22:24.36 | Bagginsww | lol |
| 22:24.46 | Bagginsww | well ya I finished the leper gnome article |
| 22:24.50 | Skyfire | we do, however, have to remove {{icon}} outside of the tooltip, don't we? |
| 22:24.54 | Skyfire | like adys said |
| 22:25.17 | Adys | sec |
| 22:25.43 | Adys | k back |
| 22:26.00 | Adys | ah k |
| 22:26.05 | Skyfire | what happened to {{language}}? |
| 22:26.09 | Skyfire | :O |
| 22:26.21 | Skyfire | or maybe that was part of {{races}}... |
| 22:26.41 | Bagginsww | language was different |
| 22:26.46 | Kaso | my current plan is to: 1) do all the items 2) fix any tooltipcss outside of item pages 3) then do {{icon}} if it hasnt already been fixed |
| 22:27.00 | Skyfire | mk... so, question |
| 22:27.02 | Bagginsww | I moved some of the merged language/race into seperate articles |
| 22:27.27 | Bagginsww | find your favorite language under <race> (lanaguage) |
| 22:27.30 | Skyfire | kaso: http://www.wowhead.com/?search=avenger%27s+legguards |
| 22:27.36 | Skyfire | how are you going to do that? |
| 22:27.38 | Skyfire | :] |
| 22:28.07 | Kaso | I think my bot will cry |
| 22:28.17 | Skyfire | lol |
| 22:28.19 | Kaso | thats a bitch |
| 22:28.40 | Skyfire | eh, it's not an issue until ids 20k+ |
| 22:28.46 | Kaso | Yah |
| 22:28.49 | Skyfire | that's still 18k items and a bit to go :] |
| 22:28.51 | Kaso | ill deal with that when i come to it |
| 22:29.48 | Kaso | Theres another case of items with the same names i remeber reading in the fake patch notes |
| 22:30.01 | Adys | theres less than 20k items dont worry |
| 22:30.11 | Skyfire | .... |
| 22:30.12 | Adys | yes plenty kaso |
| 22:30.19 | Adys | Atiesh, Greatstaff of the Guardian |
| 22:30.22 | Adys | Insignia of the Alliance |
| 22:30.24 | Adys | Head of Onyxia |
| 22:30.27 | Adys | Head of Nefarian |
| 22:30.31 | Adys | beetween many |
| 22:30.33 | Skyfire | those are how they're supposed to be though |
| 22:30.35 | Kaso | I mean two unconnected items with the same names |
| 22:30.39 | Skyfire | avenger's legguards though? |
| 22:30.42 | Skyfire | lol |
| 22:30.46 | Kaso | And theres more than one head of onyxia? |
| 22:30.48 | Adys | what do you mean? |
| 22:30.49 | Skyfire | that was definitely unintentional |
| 22:30.53 | Adys | yes, one for horde one for alliance |
| 22:30.56 | Skyfire | look at the link adys |
| 22:30.56 | Adys | they dont start the same quest |
| 22:31.03 | Kaso | oh interesting |
| 22:31.15 | Adys | bye chanserv |
| 22:31.16 | Kaso | but from our point of view they wouldnt need more than one item page. |
| 22:31.30 | Adys | from mine they should but yes i see |
| 22:31.32 | Adys | Do that |
| 22:31.38 | Adys | Item Name (ItemID) |
| 22:31.46 | Adys | for now, itll do |
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| 22:31.57 | Skyfire | i was actually thinking item name (quality)... |
| 22:31.59 | Skyfire | :o |
| 22:32.05 | Skyfire | but that works better, imo |
| 22:32.05 | Kaso | well no doubt the page already exists, and if it doesnt have a tooltip css my page will skip over it |
| 22:32.07 | Adys | that wouldnt work for many |
| 22:32.19 | Kaso | *bot |
| 22:32.20 | Bagginsww | so Wretched, what are those growth son their backs? |
| 22:36.24 | Kirkburn|afk | Bagginsww, sand gnome, burning legion, what? |
| 22:36.32 | Bagginsww | oops |
| 22:36.37 | Kirkburn|afk | Moving it now :P |
| 22:36.37 | Bagginsww | misread a line |
| 22:36.39 | Skyfire | truth |
| 22:36.49 | Bagginsww | meant to put it in Outland |
| 22:36.50 | Skyfire | sand gnomes are... gnomes. aren't they? ;P |
| 22:37.01 | Bagginsww | grey skinned gnomes |
| 22:37.04 | Kaso | Sand gnomes are cute |
| 22:37.11 | Bagginsww | don't know how closely related to gnomes though |
| 22:37.26 | Bagginsww | most of their history is surrounded in legend |
| 22:37.37 | Bagginsww | leper gnomes are now officially another race |
| 22:37.54 | Skyfire | kaso, how is your bot going to do recipe pages? |
| 22:37.55 | Bagginsww | but skyfire, blood elves, high elves, and night elves are all elves ;) |
| 22:38.01 | Skyfire | i know ;p |
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| 22:39.50 | Kaso | it will create pages for the recipe and the item independently but the recipe links to the product |
| 22:39.59 | Kaso | an example on http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Kaso/BotTest1 |
| 22:40.25 | Skyfire | so no embedding for the bot then |
| 22:40.27 | Skyfire | okie dokie |
| 22:40.36 | Bagginsww | I wonder if there were earthen that wore clothes |
| 22:40.42 | Adys | http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/03/20/food-on-the-flying-mount-wing/ this is fucking cute |
| 22:40.43 | Adys | kirk you win |
| 22:40.52 | Kirkburn|afk | =) |
| 22:40.56 | Bagginsww | like a missing link between orignal mindless earthen and later dwarves |
| 22:42.35 | Bagginsww | So kirburn, the images I'd like to slowly get rid of are those stupid picture within picture versions :p |
| 22:42.48 | Bagginsww | imo they are better as seperate images |
| 22:43.01 | Kirkburn|afk | The ugly WC3 stuff? |
| 22:43.05 | Bagginsww | ya |
| 22:43.17 | Kirkburn|afk | By the guy who seems to use Paint as his preferred method? |
| 22:43.17 | Bagginsww | they look very poor quality |
| 22:43.32 | Bagginsww | uh darktichondrius and his new alias |
| 22:43.35 | Bagginsww | was one of them |
| 22:43.41 | Kirkburn|afk | Oh yeah, what's he now? |
| 22:43.41 | Bagginsww | I use paint but very little |
| 22:43.47 | Bagginsww | just as ec |
| 22:44.24 | Bagginsww | TopDread |
| 22:44.42 | Adys | Lol kirk |
| 22:44.48 | Bagginsww | my use of paint is usually to remove text :p |
| 22:44.52 | Bagginsww | from scans |
| 22:45.10 | Bagginsww | wish I had photshop :p |
| 22:46.13 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Flesh_Golem note, flesh golem. I took best frontal image I could find in the maps |
| 22:46.31 | Bagginsww | and made the closeup thumbnail a seperate image |
| 22:46.43 | Bagginsww | looks cleaner than putting them both int eh same image |
| 22:47.38 | Kaso | my bot has completed its first 100edit block now. itll be off for a while |
| 22:49.14 | Kirkburn|afk | Kaso, aww :( |
| 22:49.29 | Adys | I think you can safely make blocks of 250-300 |
| 22:50.06 | Adys | guess this was a test |
| 22:50.41 | Kirkburn|afk | It seems to have gone really well |
| 22:50.47 | Kirkburn|afk | Ah, I see one thing |
| 22:50.51 | Kirkburn|afk | It's not doing categories? |
| 22:51.04 | Adys | oooh |
| 22:51.06 | Adys | good point |
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| 22:56.53 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Horde |
| 22:57.03 | Bagginsww | heck out my comments under evil discusison please ,:) |
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| 23:00.29 | Karrius | I wonder why people have to use terms like "evil". |
| 23:00.48 | Karrius | Warcraft characters tend to actually be believable. Calling them "good" or "evil" does a disservice to that. |
| 23:00.53 | Kirkburn|afk | Because they need to hold onto their obsessions |
| 23:01.42 | Kirkburn|afk | The "I'm right, Blizzard are wrong" one seems quite popular |
| 23:02.53 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 23:03.05 | Bagginsww | all races have evil individuals |
| 23:03.14 | Bagginsww | all races have good inviduals |
| 23:03.18 | Bagginsww | its not black and white |
| 23:03.40 | Bagginsww | although forsaken are the closest to a pure evil race |
| 23:03.53 | Karrius | Really? Forsaken? |
| 23:04.00 | Karrius | Over the Naga? Over the Scourge? |
| 23:04.15 | Bagginsww | Naga, we don' tknow enough about |
| 23:04.25 | Bagginsww | Scourge well blame Nerzul |
| 23:04.26 | Litvan | bah... choosing between gear always gives me a headache :S |
| 23:04.31 | Bagginsww | he's controlling most of them |
| 23:04.37 | Karrius | I thought it was pretty clear the Naga were the servants of the old gods? |
| 23:04.44 | Bagginsww | but I meant bewteen playable races ;) |
| 23:05.13 | Bagginsww | But ya Naga are so evil they havne't actually acted much in recen time |
| 23:05.21 | Karrius | Well, that's different. :P |
| 23:05.44 | Bagginsww | actually last major Naga advancement they helped the Night elves |
| 23:05.51 | Bagginsww | to find Tyrande |
| 23:06.07 | Bagginsww | there are those individual naga camps around the world |
| 23:06.13 | Karrius | Pushed by Illidan. Vashj seems to be just laying it low for now. |
| 23:06.19 | Bagginsww | ya |
| 23:07.04 | Bagginsww | We still don't have a clue what Queen Aszhara thinks of Vasj |
| 23:07.06 | Kirkburn|afk | Bagginsww, kobolds need a wowbox I think |
| 23:07.22 | Bagginsww | hmm there are alot of things that need wowboxes heh |
| 23:07.27 | Kirkburn|afk | :) |
| 23:07.33 | Bagginsww | I'll get to it as soon as possible |
| 23:07.35 | Karrius | I dunno, if they're going to be sticking true to the novels (which they pretty much have so far), it seems clear to me that Vashj still likely serves Azshara. |
| 23:07.46 | Bagginsww | hmm |
| 23:08.04 | Bagginsww | I got impression she still serves her, but Azshara may not know it |
| 23:08.09 | Bagginsww | no contact |
| 23:08.29 | Bagginsww | So Azshara may have developed thought that Vasj is a traitor |
| 23:08.30 | Karrius | Probablly, but I doubt that had a falling out or anything. |
| 23:08.49 | Bagginsww | well that implication was made in one of Brann's journals |
| 23:08.57 | Bagginsww | although he isn't certain of course |
| 23:09.05 | Karrius | I missed that. Any details so I can look it up? |
| 23:09.19 | Bagginsww | its been a while, |
| 23:09.24 | Bagginsww | let me see if I can fin dit |
| 23:09.47 | Karrius | I mean, it seems kinda clear why Azshara would want to team up with Illidan in the first place... but we really have no idea what Illidan is doing -now-. |
| 23:09.51 | Bagginsww | first off gong ot check MoM, its not a brann book but it was one of the main articles on vasj. |
| 23:10.19 | Bagginsww | Ahh did Illidan directly contact Azshara when he called on the naga? |
| 23:10.43 | Karrius | I can't remember. I just remember that bit with the horn... hmm. -checks- |
| 23:10.46 | Bagginsww | it wasn't clear in the game from what I remember |
| 23:11.58 | Bagginsww | well in MoM, it specifically states her heart is definitely still loyal to her queen and race. |
| 23:12.24 | Karrius | Did you read the... crap, I can't think of the name now. |
| 23:12.28 | Karrius | The last novel series? |
| 23:12.47 | Bagginsww | it states it was Azshara who sent vasj to the surface to establish their existence to the surface dwellers where she met Illidan |
| 23:12.58 | Bagginsww | No not yet |
| 23:13.04 | Bagginsww | its in my bookshelf :P |
| 23:13.13 | Bagginsww | hopefully this summer |
| 23:13.16 | Karrius | Non-spoiler just a little bit about her personality? |
| 23:13.31 | Bagginsww | oh I know gist of the events probably wouldn't be spoiled |
| 23:14.14 | Bagginsww | I've skimmed trhough the book for articles at times |
| 23:14.14 | Karrius | Basically, Vashj is super-freaky obsessed with Azshara. To the point where she dresses like Azshara, tries to make herself look like Azshara, etc. |
| 23:14.14 | Bagginsww | ya, that's creepy |
| 23:14.24 | Bagginsww | that kind of thing can lead to someone trying to "replace" the person they emulate |
| 23:14.35 | Bagginsww | she might be loyal now |
| 23:14.40 | Bagginsww | but who knows, ;) |
| 23:15.05 | Karrius | Eh, Illidan vs Azshara, my money's on the chick with the octopus butt. |
| 23:18.13 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 23:18.24 | ggilbert | ... |
| 23:18.27 | Bagginsww | well she is a demigod now |
| 23:19.14 | Bagginsww | Azshara: "I want Neptulon's trident, bring me Ariel now" |
| 23:20.09 | ggilbert | Karrius: Well Ashzara was supposed to be amazingly beautiful. I guess I could see someone being that obsessed. |
| 23:20.28 | Bagginsww | ya, its just unhealthy though |
| 23:20.32 | Karrius | I actually had a friend who had a tag along like that. |
| 23:20.35 | Karrius | Really, really weird. |
| 23:20.43 | Bagginsww | ya |
| 23:21.03 | Karrius | But Vashj has always been a bit nutty, and after the novels, I just really doubt she'd go against Azshara ever. |
| 23:21.29 | Bagginsww | not unless she geest totally insane |
| 23:21.32 | Bagginsww | *goes |
| 23:23.14 | Bagginsww | kirkburn I made a minor change to Mok'nathol and changed it to 'half-ogre |
| 23:24.09 | Bagginsww | since mok'nathol has more ties to the tribe, and as for the race its known by most races as half-ogre, due to common being more common, ;). |
| 23:24.53 | Kirkburn|afk | Good idea |
| 23:25.49 | Bagginsww | half-orc probably should be put up into azeroth |
| 23:26.07 | Karrius | That reminds me. Does anyone know if it's ever stated that one Azerothian year is equivalent to one Earth year? |
| 23:26.20 | Bagginsww | with exception of what is it, Garona, the majority are from Azeroth |
| 23:26.28 | Bagginsww | to be honest I don't think its ever been stated anywhere |
| 23:26.41 | Bagginsww | only refrence to a month or period I"ve een seen is from brann |
| 23:26.44 | Bagginsww | Selune |
| 23:26.53 | Bagginsww | and its related to spring somewhow |
| 23:27.14 | Bagginsww | plus refrences to things taking days or months in rpg |
| 23:27.22 | Bagginsww | but nothing specific |
| 23:27.32 | Bagginsww | I think the RPG just takes an earth year for granted |
| 23:28.04 | Karrius | Yeah, thinking about Garona (and an rpg I played with an offset year - great quotes, like 'how old is that 14 year old again?') made me wonder. |
| 23:28.39 | Bagginsww | well about Garona's age, I recommend reading over the timeline articles |
| 23:29.07 | Bagginsww | Metzen totally screwed thing sup when he removed approximately 15 years from the timeline |
| 23:29.17 | Bagginsww | between orcs first appearance in azeroth and the first war |
| 23:29.20 | Karrius | Yeah, I know. |
| 23:29.38 | Bagginsww | frankly to be honest I think he could eaisly add that time back in and it wouldn't mess things up to omuch |
| 23:29.45 | Bagginsww | *easily |
| 23:29.48 | Karrius | It's best not to even think about it at this point. |
| 23:29.54 | Karrius | ...but I do. |
| 23:30.13 | Bagginsww | well anyone has access to the manual's excellent short story will be bugged by it |
| 23:30.32 | Bagginsww | its not just that its from a short story its form her own POV |
| 23:30.39 | Bagginsww | why would she lie? |
| 23:31.08 | Karrius | You mean the WC1 manual? |
| 23:31.13 | Bagginsww | ya |
| 23:31.24 | Karrius | And there's an answer to that question. |
| 23:31.26 | Karrius | She's a rogue. :p |
| 23:31.36 | Bagginsww | basically its the kind of later retcons that screwes with the whole narritive to the series |
| 23:31.55 | Bagginsww | its bad enough that Garona has never really made an appearance since Warcraft 1 :p |
| 23:32.08 | Bagginsww | almost as if she was physically retconned, if not literally |
| 23:32.16 | Karrius | Well, she was in the WoW beta. |
| 23:32.22 | Bagginsww | which doesn't count |
| 23:32.25 | Bagginsww | since it was "removed" |
| 23:32.33 | Bagginsww | and it was a cheap model use anyways |
| 23:32.35 | Karrius | She just stealthed. |
| 23:32.45 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 23:32.54 | Bagginsww | nah I mean anything that happened in beta isn't official lore |
| 23:32.58 | Karrius | I hear if you get level 85 stealth detect, you can find Garona! |
| 23:33.00 | Karrius | (and this is how rumors start) |
| 23:33.01 | Bagginsww | since it could be "altered" |
| 23:33.08 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 23:33.09 | Bagginsww | ya |
| 23:33.57 | Bagginsww | we can't even take what we see in game with 100% accuracy either, since they can actually choose to remove quests for various reasons :p |
| 23:34.08 | Karrius | Have they removed any? |
| 23:34.18 | Bagginsww | only some from beta as far as I know |
| 23:34.25 | Bagginsww | and modifications to current quests |
| 23:34.33 | Bagginsww | to let the new races fit in better |
| 23:34.46 | Karrius | Maybe they'll patch Garona out of WC1 sometime this year. |
| 23:34.51 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 23:35.01 | Bagginsww | I don't think its that bad, ;) |
| 23:35.07 | Bagginsww | garona still gets a few text refrences in game |
| 23:35.21 | Karrius | Just an idea. :p |
| 23:35.40 | Bagginsww | anycase take the quests in stranglethron vale |
| 23:35.50 | Bagginsww | the hunter camp there |
| 23:36.05 | Bagginsww | basically they moved the leader to outland |
| 23:36.12 | Bagginsww | created his near look alike son |
| 23:36.14 | Karrius | Didn't they just replace Hemett with his son? |
| 23:36.17 | Bagginsww | yep |
| 23:36.24 | Karrius | I can't believe they let that crazy bastard breed. |
| 23:36.25 | Bagginsww | but the quest lore was altered to match |
| 23:36.40 | Bagginsww | well actually from what I hear its nearly the same text as before |
| 23:36.59 | Bagginsww | only difference is its not originally Hemett sending you to recover his book and what not |
| 23:37.04 | Bagginsww | *Original |
| 23:37.11 | Bagginsww | So which story is more true? |
| 23:37.37 | Bagginsww | we know that Hemett sr. was once there |
| 23:37.40 | Karrius | Both! |
| 23:37.40 | Bagginsww | his son confirms that |
| 23:37.45 | Karrius | The book just has really, really weak bindings. |
| 23:37.51 | Karrius | They need to invest in a stapler. |
| 23:37.51 | Bagginsww | so it was lost again LOL |
| 23:38.32 | Bagginsww | its probably a gag, they do this just so they can laught ath the poor fools they can trick into trudging over hte jungle |
| 23:38.49 | Bagginsww | he really has dozen of these books in the tent |
| 23:38.54 | Karrius | Seriously, this is a guy who makes his living convincing people to hunt down endangered species in jungles. |
| 23:38.56 | Bagginsww | which they rip up and scatter |
| 23:38.59 | Karrius | You expect any bit of sanity? |
| 23:39.08 | Bagginsww | lol |
| 23:39.20 | Karrius | "Yar! Outland! Look at the lush green fields! Alright boys, let's kill shit!" |
| 23:39.23 | Bagginsww | He's kind of like Teddy Rooselvelt in his old age |
| 23:39.44 | Bagginsww | what gets me is they are so lazy they don't do it themselves |
| 23:40.01 | Bagginsww | and they ask for genocidal numbers of kills |
| 23:40.11 | Kirkburn|afk | Almost finished Azeroth! |
| 23:40.15 | Bagginsww | I mean 2-3 should have been good enough :p |
| 23:40.18 | Karrius | He doesn't want to admit it, but he forgot to buy ammo before leaving Stormwind. |
| 23:40.24 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 23:40.40 | Karrius | He's like that guy who always forgets to repair and restock before instances. All he cares about is killing stuff. |
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| 23:41.27 | Kirkburn|afk | We need a better image of a worgen |
| 23:41.38 | Bagginsww | well guess what, when he moves onto his new location he's going to want to hunt the greatest hunt of his life, "Man" |
| 23:41.56 | Bagginsww | He's going to turn into one of those crazies that buys islands |
| 23:41.58 | Karrius | Anyone smell PVP battleground? |
| 23:42.14 | Bagginsww | and catches people to put on them to hunt |
| 23:42.21 | Karrius | "Open the cage, and unleashed the crazed dwarf onto your enemies!" |
| 23:42.29 | Bagginsww | yep I can see it in the souths seas expansion |
| 23:42.57 | Bagginsww | My refrence is to one of the greatest short stories of all time |
| 23:43.00 | Bagginsww | can't recall the name though |
| 23:44.04 | Karrius | The Most Dangerous Game |
| 23:44.12 | Bagginsww | thank thank you very much |
| 23:44.29 | Karrius | Had to read it in AP English, but I forgot the name of it. |
| 23:44.32 | Bagginsww | I was thinking greatest, most, blah blah but last part wasn't coming to me |
| 23:44.44 | Bagginsww | Its one of my favorite stories |
| 23:44.51 | Bagginsww | but ya I could see a hemitt ending up that way |
| 23:45.02 | Bagginsww | Beware of Nessingwary Island |
| 23:45.04 | Karrius | That explains it ALL. |
| 23:45.11 | Bagginsww | people go there and never come back |
| 23:45.15 | Karrius | H ejust wants you to level up so you're more fun of a kill. |
| 23:45.21 | Bagginsww | yep LOL |
| 23:45.24 | Karrius | Thus the 10bajillion required quest mobs. |
| 23:45.50 | Bagginsww | If you are the greatest hunter next to him, you will be the best hutn he has ever had |
| 23:46.14 | Bagginsww | beware Hemit Nessingwary raid boss |
| 23:46.16 | Karrius | When you see that he has a mounted tauren head, just run. |
| 23:46.24 | Bagginsww | Heh heh |
| 23:46.51 | Bagginsww | but ya when he starts having you hunt sentient beings for him... that's a good sign to worry too |
| 23:47.21 | Karrius | "Say Hunter... have ya heard of gnomes?" |
| 23:47.39 | Bagginsww | Um ya, I'm one didn't know that? |
| 23:47.48 | Bagginsww | what about us? |
| 23:47.58 | Karrius | <- Horde. Gnome-killing is a sport. |
| 23:48.04 | Bagginsww | heh heh |
| 23:48.15 | Bagginsww | so is gnome tossing int he alliance |
| 23:48.22 | Bagginsww | kind of like bowling |
| 23:48.31 | Karrius | Really, almost all sports use gnomes in some way. |
| 23:48.34 | Bagginsww | its a participant sport |
| 23:48.58 | Bagginsww | Dwarf tossing is fairly popular too, that's if you can get them to cooperate |
| 23:49.14 | Karrius | But I thought that nobody... |
| 23:49.16 | Bagginsww | But gnomes like being shot out of cannons and what not |
| 23:49.24 | Bagginsww | anycase I have to leave |
| 23:49.26 | Bagginsww | ttyl |
| 23:49.30 | Karrius | Cya |
| 23:49.45 | Bleeter | cya Bagginsww |
| 23:50.40 | Kirkburn|afk | See ya Bagginsww |
| 23:50.50 | Kirkburn|afk | Have you notices how few rd links we have these days? :) |
| 23:50.53 | Kirkburn|afk | *red |
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