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| 01:16.46 | Arkanjil | hey guys, can warlocks ever use two-handed swords? Thanks! |
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| 01:46.24 | kaso | was Arkanjil serious? |
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| 03:02.53 | Bleeter | we are the goonsquad, and we're coming to town |
| 03:04.45 | Gryphen | ono |
| 03:07.26 | bleetah | BEEP BEEP |
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| 04:26.22 | bleetah | Bagginsww: is there a name for the warcraft universe? eg, there's azeroth and outlands. I assume there's other areas. Is there a collective noun for the whole lot? |
| 04:26.56 | Bagginsww | uh Great DArk, probably the closest name to the universe :p |
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| 04:27.26 | bleetah | are you 100% serious (not that I think it's funny.. erm, I'll message you the reason why) |
| 04:27.29 | Bagginsww | but I wouldn't go around using that term all the time LOL |
| 04:27.42 | Bagginsww | I meant from a technical terminology |
| 04:27.57 | Bagginsww | great dark is literally the universe, galaxies, includes twisting nether, etc |
| 04:28.04 | Bagginsww | planets |
| 04:28.13 | Bagginsww | planes of existence etc |
| 04:28.33 | Bagginsww | even our universe doesn't have much of a name :p |
| 04:28.44 | Bagginsww | "universe", LOL |
| 04:29.24 | Bagginsww | I just wouldn't go around saying the "Great Dark Universe" LOL |
| 04:29.32 | Bagginsww | or the "Great Dark Beyond" all the itme |
| 04:29.35 | Bagginsww | too long |
| 04:30.01 | Bagginsww | I know you were hoping for a fancy "Titanish name ;) |
| 04:31.06 | bleetah | check /msg |
| 04:32.18 | bleetah | 'universe' -> pretty much literally 'all things in one' |
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| 04:33.31 | bleetah | 'cosmos' is probably the closest word we have in English to a true proper noun for it, I'd guess |
| 04:34.53 | Bagginsww | ya |
| 04:35.07 | Bagginsww | I can see if Shadows and Light had any more synonyms |
| 04:35.07 | bleetah | did you see my /msg ? |
| 04:35.10 | Bagginsww | ya |
| 04:35.16 | bleetah | meh @ shadows and light |
| 04:35.17 | Bagginsww | you can't read my messages to you I guess |
| 04:35.22 | bleetah | used to death by babylon 5 first :P |
| 04:35.33 | Bagginsww | LOL |
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| 04:35.41 | bleetah | nah, I suspect you're not registered with freenode if you're typing to me and it's not coming through |
| 04:35.46 | Bagginsww | ya |
| 04:35.51 | bleetah | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:37.04 | Bagginsww | I've tried registering multiple times still hasn't worked I guess |
| 04:37.13 | bleetah | hmm |
| 04:37.32 | bleetah | if you /msg nickserv help it'll give you all the options and stuff, and nickserv will reply back |
| 04:37.54 | bleetah | maybe you have registered, just that you forget to /msg nickserv identify <password> when you connect, or haven't set your client to do that for you |
| 04:39.09 | Bagginsww | I'm using xchat |
| 04:40.52 | bleetah | k, *should* be... IRC->Preferences->Networks->Freenode->Edit->Network Settings->Nickserv Password |
| 04:41.20 | bleetah | having said that, tho, yer prolly got a diff setup than what I'm seeing here rofl |
| 04:45.18 | Bagginsww | who knows LOL |
| 04:49.12 | Bagginsww | so ya S&L just uses "cosmos" as another alternative discription LOL |
| 04:51.15 | Bagginsww | It then goes onto say that Great Dark, or "Great Dark Beyond" its full name is what schoalrs came up with to explain where everything in existance is located. |
| 05:07.18 | bleetah | Bagginsww: check your /msg |
| 05:07.22 | bleetah | and thanks for the help on that :-D |
| 05:07.43 | Bagginsww | ahh, glad you like it |
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| 05:31.39 | Skyfire | hola mis amigos! |
| 05:33.02 | Skyfire | como estan ustedes? |
| 05:33.02 | Skyfire | guess no one speaks spanish here -_- |
| 05:33.12 | bleetah | vamoos! |
| 05:33.19 | bleetah | que? |
| 05:33.37 | bleetah | ci! |
| 05:33.47 | Skyfire | <shift> det ar ingeting |
| 05:33.51 | Skyfire | ;) |
| 05:34.11 | bleetah | Ya tienes una pequeña cabeza. ¿Por qué quieres arroz? |
| 05:34.43 | Skyfire | no quiero arroz ahora... |
| 05:34.55 | Tekkub | taco bell? |
| 05:35.51 | bleetah | Bagginsww: thanks again! http://greatdarkplanet.org/ :-) |
| 05:36.00 | bleetah | still working on changing the backend blogging setup ;) |
| 05:36.00 | Skyfire | el quiere taco bell! que quieres tu a comer a taco bell, tekkub? |
| 05:36.10 | Tekkub | hai! |
| 05:38.17 | Skyfire | helvete! varfor pratar du en japansk? |
| 05:38.53 | Skyfire | ... |
| 05:39.02 | Tekkub | dot dot dot |
| 05:39.31 | bleetah | Mata omae wa chiisa na atama ga aru-koto dakara, naze o-meshi hoshii na no? |
| 05:40.21 | Skyfire | oh hel |
| 05:40.23 | Skyfire | touche |
| 05:40.42 | bleetah | wtf french now?! |
| 05:40.49 | bleetah | Tu as déjà une petite tête, pourquoi veux-tu du riz? |
| 05:41.18 | Skyfire | wtf... |
| 05:41.44 | Skyfire | you know more languages that i do ;( |
| 05:41.46 | Adys | hm? |
| 05:41.58 | Skyfire | lol |
| 05:42.03 | Adys | that made no sense |
| 05:42.11 | Skyfire | something about rice... |
| 05:42.14 | Skyfire | :x |
| 05:42.22 | Adys | you already have a small head, why do you want rice |
| 05:42.39 | Skyfire | lol |
| 05:42.39 | Adys | does that make any sense to you :P |
| 05:42.42 | Skyfire | no |
| 05:42.53 | Skyfire | didn't remember what pequena ment ;( |
| 05:42.53 | bleetah | it does not have to make sense |
| 05:42.58 | bleetah | it just has to impress the chicks |
| 05:43.00 | bleetah | hubba hubba |
| 05:43.03 | Adys | haha |
| 05:43.04 | Skyfire | lol |
| 05:43.07 | Skyfire | sad man |
| 05:43.21 | bleetah | I was bored one day, and needed some funky lame crap to put on a webpage |
| 05:43.36 | bleetah | working in an office with germans, chinese, japanese, french, spanish.. well |
| 05:43.49 | bleetah | it just happened |
| 05:43.56 | bleetah | Ni jiu yeo yi ge xiao tou! Wei shen mo ni yao fan? |
| 05:44.02 | bleetah | Du hast schon einen kleinen Kopf, warum willst du dann Reis ? |
| 05:44.12 | bleetah | now you know all that I do, in 6 languages |
| 05:44.30 | Skyfire | lol |
| 05:44.33 | Skyfire | pft |
| 05:44.44 | Adys | .kick bleetah #wowwiki I don't have a small head! |
| 05:44.47 | Skyfire | you know, you could actually learn the languages ;p |
| 05:44.50 | Adys | woops ;) |
| 05:45.23 | Tekkub | I have a small head? |
| 05:45.29 | bleetah | Skyfire: I can mumble my way through italian, french, spanish, portugues, romanian, german, dutch... and about three words of irish |
| 05:45.44 | bleetah | enough to get a hotel room, food, car hire, book flights, ask for directions, etc. |
| 05:45.46 | Skyfire | lol |
| 05:45.52 | Adys | French English Greek and a few words of russian P |
| 05:45.54 | Adys | :P |
| 05:46.00 | Skyfire | mumbling ftl |
| 05:46.03 | bleetah | and in french, I can even say something along the lines of "But I've already paid, you moron" |
| 05:46.09 | Skyfire | spanish, english, and swedish :x |
| 05:46.10 | bleetah | stuffed if I know how to spell it tho |
| 05:46.27 | Adys | lol bleetah |
| 05:46.55 | bleetah | Adys: I had to use that at a cafe in Veux Port in Marseille |
| 05:47.07 | Adys | LOL |
| 05:47.17 | bleetah | think it was the one owned by the marseille fottball club |
| 05:47.20 | bleetah | buncha knobs |
| 05:47.39 | bleetah | tried charging me for a coffee which I'd already paid for, which they never served me |
| 05:47.56 | bleetah | so I rang head office for a few choice insults ;) |
| 05:48.05 | bleetah | *my head office |
| 05:48.25 | Tekkub | *poke* *poke* *poke* *poke* *poke* "Is this what you do for amusement?" *poke* *poke* *poke* *poke* *poke* *poke* |
| 05:49.10 | Skyfire | huh? |
| 05:49.14 | Skyfire | you are strange |
| 05:49.25 | Adys | http://www.bash.org/?9322 |
| 05:49.27 | Skyfire | oh, i know what im gonna do |
| 05:49.57 | Skyfire | im gonna go thru [[Category:Transcludable Pages]] and see what I can tag with speedydeletes >:) |
| 05:50.10 | Skyfire | LOL |
| 05:50.14 | Tekkub | no sky, it's "you are not normal, are you?" |
| 05:50.26 | Adys | most pages tagged {{bc}} need untagging |
| 05:50.32 | Skyfire | eh |
| 05:50.35 | Adys | and many images need categorizing |
| 05:50.44 | Skyfire | tbh, we should have a {{bc-item}} :/ |
| 05:50.45 | Adys | [[Special:Uncategorizedimages]] |
| 05:50.57 | Tekkub | I love non BoP items tagged BC |
| 05:51.22 | Skyfire | categorizes into [[Category:Burning Crusade items]], which is a sub cat of [[Burning Crusade]] |
| 05:51.26 | Skyfire | and yes, that is funny ;P |
| 05:52.07 | Skyfire | what's wrong with the word "strange," tekkub? |
| 05:52.09 | Skyfire | :x |
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| 06:08.44 | Skyfire | they all stopped talking... what's going on? |
| 06:16.23 | Adys | lol |
| 06:16.23 | Adys | pvping at 7am ftw |
| 06:25.04 | Skosiris | hey Adys |
| 06:25.09 | Adys | dingdingding |
| 06:25.14 | Skosiris | I didn't know you speak French |
| 06:25.14 | Adys | Hey skosiris :) |
| 06:25.18 | Adys | I am french |
| 06:25.32 | Adys | if that explains :P |
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| 06:27.51 | bleetah | Skosiris: does wowhead have any RSS feeds? |
| 06:28.09 | Skosiris | RSS feeds for? |
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| 06:29.19 | bleetah | erm.. this sounds awful.. but just 'stuff'.. Myself and norganna operate http://www.greatdarkplanet.org/ (formerly planet-warcrat.com, but we changed the name 'coz of gamespy, etc.) .. it's a 'planetplanet' aggregator of various RSS feeds from around the WoW community etc. |
| 06:29.43 | bleetah | we did have an entry for another site that had item entries, quest entries, etc. but that was incredibly spammy and excessive |
| 06:30.04 | bleetah | I'm just thinking there might be some data that you could put into a feed that we could include |
| 06:30.20 | bleetah | for what it's worth, I'm trying to think of how to do the same for wowwiki's data ;) |
| 06:30.55 | Skosiris | sure |
| 06:30.57 | bleetah | eventaully, I hope that greatdarkplanet's free blogs will have 'region:realm:faction:toon' support, still working on that in a test bed |
| 06:31.14 | Skosiris | what would you like RSS feeds for, Latest additions for instance? |
| 06:32.26 | bleetah | not too sure, some of that stuff can - if it updates frequently - can swamp the site making it .. almost worthless (eg, if you look at it now, it's swamped by WarcraftMovies) |
| 06:32.58 | bleetah | unless you can have a feed of the latest 25, say quests and items, seperately.. that might work |
| 06:34.13 | bleetah | bbiab |
| 06:35.02 | Skosiris | there could be only 1 entry per day, regardless of the # of additions on that day |
| 06:37.36 | Skyfire | adys, im not sure protecting that page was appropriate; boss strats and all that :/ |
| 06:37.47 | Adys | Semi protected |
| 06:37.56 | Skyfire | who can edit then? |
| 06:38.08 | Adys | Ancient users (something like 1-2 weeks old) |
| 06:38.13 | Skyfire | oh, thx |
| 06:38.15 | Skyfire | -_- |
| 06:38.23 | Skyfire | "ancient" |
| 06:38.27 | Adys | well :P |
| 06:38.30 | Adys | not newly registered |
| 06:38.45 | Adys | Someone in my guild actually was reading up the netherspite tactics on there |
| 06:38.59 | Adys | and said "how are we going to be able to mass bandage the main tank" or something like that |
| 06:39.17 | Adys | Theres worse than vandals, brainless players too :/ |
| 06:42.53 | bleetah | Skosiris: hmm, I suspect I see where you're going with this. How about an feed updated every, say, 6 hours? |
| 06:47.57 | Skosiris | well, the Latest additions page is updated every 2 days or so |
| 06:48.08 | Skosiris | as new stuff is added to the site |
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| 06:49.21 | Skosiris | what information were you most interested in? (besides the Latest Addition page) |
| 06:50.35 | Adys | http://www.wowhead.com/?screenshot=view&1.21217#19461 lol |
| 06:50.40 | Adys | beast lore ftw |
| 06:50.53 | Adys | can someone translate it btw? |
| 06:51.05 | Adys | I guess Gesundheit is health |
| 06:51.18 | Skosiris | Rustung must be armor |
| 06:51.27 | Skosiris | Schaden must mean damage |
| 06:51.42 | Skosiris | I have no idea what Nicht zahmbar might mean |
| 06:51.59 | Skosiris | =/ |
| 06:52.02 | Adys | "Non tameable" i safely guess |
| 06:52.03 | Adys | lmao |
| 06:52.57 | Adys | I mean, it HAS to be somewhere |
| 06:53.29 | bleetah | Skosiris: latest additions looks fine. .. I was about to show you a 'competitors' idea of a latest feed, but it's spat me out some XML+PHP code |
| 06:54.00 | Skosiris | "Non tameable", yup that must be it |
| 06:54.18 | bleetah | Skosiris: basically this other side had a seperate entry for each addition, a collective addition such as the table in your latest would be sweet as :) |
| 06:54.35 | Skosiris | let me manually update The Lurker Below's health |
| 06:54.49 | Skosiris | "Health: 550,000" d'oh |
| 06:55.39 | Adys | heh |
| 06:55.50 | Adys | btw what does "Fehler bei der Anmeldung: |
| 06:55.50 | Adys | Der Benutzername Adys\ldblquote existiert nicht. berprfen Sie die Schreibweise oder legen Sie ein neues Benutzerkonto an." mean? |
| 06:56.13 | Skosiris | http://www.google.com/language_tools?hl=en |
| 06:56.20 | Adys | meh :P |
| 06:56.28 | Adys | no need actually my account doesnt exist |
| 06:56.33 | Adys | they must have changed the database. |
| 06:57.17 | Adys | I give up, their site is down |
| 06:57.27 | bleetah | Skosiris: actually.. seeing their own webpage spits out code and is useless for rss the readers I have in FF... I have no hesitation in recommending you DON'T do it like http://www.goblinworkshop.com/rss/xml-syndication.html |
| 07:00.58 | Adys | Das_Grauen_aus_der_Tiefe |
| 07:01.11 | Adys | sorry copypasting to save |
| 07:01.20 | Skosiris | haha |
| 07:01.27 | Skosiris | http://www.goblinworkshop.com/rss/new-stuff.xml |
| 07:01.40 | bleetah | Skosiris: you noticed ;) |
| 07:01.45 | Skosiris | looks like theyr forgot to turn on PHP parsing |
| 07:01.49 | Skosiris | they* |
| 07:03.34 | bleetah | hadn't noticed that, as I'd turned the feed off previously because, as I said, it spat out lots and lots and lots of entries (check the 'additions' column on their home page, you'll get the idea) |
| 07:03.42 | Adys | I cant fucking register on their wiki >< |
| 07:03.46 | bleetah | which is what I'm hoping working with you, I can avoid |
| 07:03.52 | bleetah | Adys: is it php powered? |
| 07:03.59 | Adys | http://wow.ingame.de/wiki/index.php/Spezial:Gew%C3%BCnschte_Seiten |
| 07:04.03 | Adys | try it :P |
| 07:04.42 | Adys | god, I registered once, they prob deleted the account while they were changing host |
| 07:04.55 | Adys | and now I gotta register again and translate every single error I get >< |
| 07:09.02 | Adys | Around itself to announce you need an account with ingame.de Note! If you have a inWoW.de forum account or a inWoW.de comment account, you can use this and need no new entrance |
| 07:09.10 | Adys | nuh huh |
| 07:10.23 | Adys | their registration thing is down |
| 07:34.46 | Adys | Hey you know whats fun? |
| 07:35.02 | Adys | I just noticed, the armory keeps track of the player buffs |
| 07:35.10 | Adys | that means they must have a spell database too |
| 08:09.30 | oam | Adys: duuuuuh |
| 08:09.35 | Adys | hm? |
| 08:09.49 | oam | "that means they must have a spell database too" ;) |
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| 08:10.50 | oam | tok them long enought to make the armory thing tho |
| 08:14.15 | bleetah | yeah, damn them being busy with upgrading the servers and getting BC out the door.. they should concentrate more on stuff that's not directly related to income |
| 08:17.47 | Kirkburn|afk | bleetah, duuuuuh :) |
| 08:25.00 | oam | like.. keeping players? |
| 08:27.12 | Kirkburn|afk | Random offtopic - anyone ever heard of Rodinia? |
| 08:28.46 | Kirkburn|afk | (I came across it whilst researching Tasmania =) |
| 08:29.26 | bleetah | Kirkburn|afk: http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/03/15/commodore_back_gaming_pc/ |
| 08:29.31 | oam | ....ok ? |
| 08:29.57 | Kirkburn|afk | Retrotastic, eh |
| 08:30.07 | bleetah | Kirkburn|afk: erm, yeah I have.. whoddabouttit? |
| 08:30.25 | bleetah | and |
| 08:30.28 | Kirkburn|afk | I hadn't come across it before |
| 08:30.33 | bleetah | ARE YOU STALKING ME ALREADY!!! NOON!O!N!ON!O!N!!! |
| 08:30.36 | Kirkburn|afk | hehe |
| 08:30.48 | Kirkburn|afk | Gondwana and Pangaea yes, but Rodinia no |
| 08:31.34 | bleetah | that commodore gaming PC sounds darned fine too, btw |
| 08:31.56 | bleetah | even tho I'd prolly buy it for the inbuilt C64 emulator and 50 games! |
| 08:35.45 | Kirkburn|afk | Time for Uni, back later! |
| 08:39.52 | oam | uni ... HA! .. wait |
| 08:40.03 | oam | where the hell am I, college that wants to become a uni.. god damn it |
| 08:40.09 | oam | stupid mid-term |
| 08:48.38 | Peter | what uni are you at Kirkburn|afk |
| 08:51.38 | Adys | Jump to: navigation, search |
| 08:51.38 | Adys | A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was: |
| 08:51.38 | Adys | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:51.38 | Adys | from within function "Job::pop". MySQL returned error "1213: Deadlock found when trying to get lock; try restarting transaction (localhost)". |
| 08:51.39 | Adys | Retrieved from "http://www.wowwiki.com/Old_Hillsbrad_Foothills" |
| 08:51.41 | Adys | Category: Instance:Old Hillsbrad Foothills |
| 09:41.57 | Kirkburn|afk | Peter, Bristol |
| 09:45.28 | oam | ^^ |
| 09:45.41 | oam | Kirkburn|afk: doing what? some computerish thing? |
| 09:45.50 | Kirkburn|afk | Civil Engineering |
| 09:46.39 | Adys | Kirky! |
| 09:46.52 | oam | k |
| 09:46.53 | Adys | We used to have a mage in Genesis, called Kirki |
| 09:46.59 | Adys | We called him Kinky |
| 09:47.05 | oam | Kirkburn|afk: that's construction for you right? |
| 09:47.39 | Kirkburn|afk | Designing of structures, essentially |
| 09:48.25 | oam | yeah, just with an engineering background, compared to an architect right? |
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| 09:58.42 | Tekkub | hrm... I just noticed my Pepto Bismol is a year expired |
| 09:59.00 | Tekkub | maybe that's why it wasn't working too well |
| 10:01.12 | Adys | Pepto Bismol? |
| 10:02.06 | Bleeter | sounds like an antacid |
| 10:02.30 | Bleeter | (stomach acid neutralizer) |
| 10:02.42 | Tekkub | aye, pick, kinda chalky, tastes just like the lil round candies that are the same color |
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| 10:08.52 | Tekkub | s/pick/pink/ |
| 10:09.25 | Adys | and that was a year expired? |
| 10:09.29 | Adys | doesnt sound good |
| 10:29.53 | Adys | nn guys have fun |
| 10:34.04 | Tekkub | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=WoWWiki_talk%3AVillage_pump&diff=546624&oldid=546623 |
| 10:34.16 | Tekkub | *points at change note* |
| 10:34.37 | Tekkub | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66fULfwb2X4&mode=related&search= |
| 10:35.08 | Tekkub | all I can say is, Ska vi ha sex klockan sex? |
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| 11:10.26 | Kirkburn|afk | Mikk!? |
| 11:10.40 | SysTem-X | hello |
| 11:10.57 | SysTem-X | anyone from barthilas? |
| 11:11.03 | Kirkburn|afk | US or EU |
| 11:11.12 | SysTem-X | US |
| 11:11.17 | Kirkburn|afk | I didn't realise Mikk was subtly still on the wiki - good news U guess |
| 11:11.21 | Kirkburn|afk | *I |
| 11:11.33 | Kirkburn|afk | I'm EU so I'm out :P |
| 11:11.42 | SysTem-X | on barthilas? darn |
| 11:14.26 | Kirkburn|afk | Tekkub, your sig is very silly, I must tell you |
| 11:14.39 | Tekkub | ^^ |
| 11:15.03 | SysTem-X | do engineers use jade, shadowgems? |
| 11:18.05 | Kirkburn|afk | *sigh* http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Whitewolf#Protect_Civil_Rights |
| 11:18.13 | Kirkburn|afk | SysTem-X, yes I think so |
| 11:18.37 | Tekkub | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=1529#R0Vz |
| 11:19.04 | Tekkub | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=1210#k0Vz |
| 11:19.15 | Tekkub | one each mineral, both suck |
| 11:19.34 | Tekkub | wait two on shadowgem |
| 11:19.55 | Tekkub | gah it sorts by level not trade |
| 11:20.00 | Kirkburn|afk | I think Whitewolf is just angling for a fight |
| 11:20.15 | Kirkburn|afk | If he pushes it futher I'm just going to ban him |
| 11:20.17 | Tekkub | I think WW is just a fucking crybaby alliance |
| 11:20.20 | kaso | Kirkburn|afk Oh my god, is he serious? |
| 11:20.32 | Tekkub | fine by me kirko |
| 11:20.41 | Kirkburn|afk | kaso, I can't tell :/ |
| 11:21.07 | Tekkub | I think he's 1) the victim of guild drama and 2) a lawyer |
| 11:21.21 | Tekkub | which adds up to 3) stupid :) |
| 11:21.24 | kaso | Not a real lawyer |
| 11:21.32 | kaso | maybe a kid whos studing law at school |
| 11:21.39 | Tekkub | lawyer wannabe? even more pathetic |
| 11:22.00 | Kirkburn|afk | If that's his current understanding of law, god help us all |
| 11:22.09 | Kirkburn|afk | I know, why don't I sue the rain for making me wet |
| 11:22.35 | Kirkburn|afk | Omg, that shop is charging more than that other one! Sweet jesus, call the cops! |
| 11:22.41 | Tekkub | ya can't blame the underlying system for social shortcomings |
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| 11:23.03 | Tekkub | which everything he complained about exect "blizzy favors horde" was social issues |
| 11:23.25 | SysTem-X | there are 2 types of engineering, gnomish and goblin |
| 11:23.29 | Tekkub | and "blue plays favs" is just a cry more noob arguement :) |
| 11:23.38 | SysTem-X | both on par with each other? or there is a winner between both? |
| 11:23.50 | Tekkub | Engineering is crap Sys |
| 11:24.19 | Tekkub | take it if you want a few gimicky trinkets that work only half the time or if you want to mine for bullets |
| 11:24.23 | kaso | What is his point about Shy/Slan-Rotam ? |
| 11:24.47 | SysTem-X | i have taken engineering and mining for a dwarf hunter |
| 11:24.47 | Tekkub | that it's blaring evidence blue likes horde |
| 11:25.04 | Tekkub | Sys, I'm a dorf hunter, and I regret taking engineering |
| 11:25.18 | Tekkub | I'm 64, Eng 300, and have no desire to level it any |
| 11:25.33 | Kirkburn|afk | SysTem-X, if it's your first character, I suggest taking another gathering profession instead |
| 11:25.36 | Tekkub | I never use the items I made, they just take up bank space |
| 11:25.45 | SysTem-X | =/ |
| 11:25.50 | Kirkburn|afk | Reason being, the money is more useful than the gadgets first time round |
| 11:25.55 | SysTem-X | yup its my firsrt char |
| 11:26.04 | Tekkub | dual-gathering is the very best option for any fresh toon unless the server is brand new |
| 11:26.07 | Kirkburn|afk | Once you have a high level character, you can spend that chars money making engineering fun for other characters :P |
| 11:26.27 | Tekkub | aye, take gatherings to at least 40 for your mount |
| 11:26.32 | Tekkub | and probably beyond that |
| 11:26.49 | SysTem-X | so you just sell all your trade goods? |
| 11:26.50 | Tekkub | buying AH gear is more than adequate when leveling |
| 11:26.54 | Tekkub | yes |
| 11:27.03 | Tekkub | and yes, they sell easily |
| 11:27.19 | Tekkub | invest in big bags as fast as you can |
| 11:27.30 | Tekkub | and never leave anything on a corpse |
| 11:27.30 | Kirkburn|afk | I like big bags, I can't deny |
| 11:27.39 | SysTem-X | you talking about selling your copper/bronze bars to the vendor or in AH? |
| 11:27.51 | Tekkub | NEVER VENDOR! |
| 11:27.58 | Tekkub | greys == vendor |
| 11:28.04 | Tekkub | trades == AH |
| 11:28.14 | SysTem-X | =/, i meant NPC? |
| 11:28.22 | SysTem-X | like the innkeeper |
| 11:28.27 | Tekkub | I know what you meant |
| 11:28.36 | SysTem-X | ok |
| 11:28.50 | SysTem-X | so sell to the AH instead? |
| 11:28.52 | Tekkub | vendor will give you spare change, AH will give you income |
| 11:28.57 | SysTem-X | oh. |
| 11:29.31 | SysTem-X | ok, but what kind of price should i give for items like copper bars |
| 11:29.35 | Tekkub | stack of copper bars == 2s to vendor |
| 11:29.51 | Tekkub | pulls nearly 1g per stack on my server's AH most the time |
| 11:29.52 | Kirkburn|afk | Tek, "Rock is best listened to when wearing a coat" |
| 11:30.19 | SysTem-X | when u say a stack, you mean 20 bars right? |
| 11:30.22 | Tekkub | kirk, Ska vi ha sex klockan sex? |
| 11:30.43 | Tekkub | Sys... you're on week one ain't ya? |
| 11:30.49 | SysTem-X | ya man, sorry |
| 11:30.59 | Tekkub | yes, bars stack to 20 |
| 11:31.08 | SysTem-X | ya, ok thats a stack |
| 11:31.12 | Tekkub | http://www.wowhead.com/ <--- lots of useful info |
| 11:31.18 | SysTem-X | so just sell them in AH for 1G? ok |
| 11:31.34 | Tekkub | no, search the AH and see what they go for in your market |
| 11:31.53 | SysTem-X | ok |
| 11:31.56 | Tekkub | I was just giving you numbers to show why you don't vendor trade mats |
| 11:32.10 | SysTem-X | ive never sold mats to vendors |
| 11:32.22 | SysTem-X | i do sell green items to vendors |
| 11:32.27 | Tekkub | any item that has a grey name (exect ONE in the whole game) is meant to sell to NPC |
| 11:32.31 | SysTem-X | soulbound ones |
| 11:32.44 | Tekkub | you can equip some greys, but you should be in greens by 10 easily |
| 11:32.51 | Tekkub | soulbound you don't use, yes |
| 11:33.04 | SysTem-X | ok, do you ever compare items at the npc to see how much they are worth and which is better? |
| 11:33.15 | Tekkub | or disenchant if you take enchanting, which you prolly don't want to, it's expensive and time consuming to level |
| 11:33.23 | SysTem-X | hehe, my friend took that |
| 11:33.45 | Tekkub | DE is very very handy if someone is running you thru instance |
| 11:33.59 | SysTem-X | DE? whats that |
| 11:34.15 | Tekkub | I had a friend powerlevel my druid in instance... from 15-25 I got about 400g from only skinning, DE and grey trash |
| 11:34.20 | Tekkub | disenchanting |
| 11:34.44 | SysTem-X | i meant if i get 2 green items and i compare them, their selling price, would that give me a rough idea of how much better the weapon is from the other? |
| 11:34.46 | Tekkub | but that was me and a 60, many many runs and I had to carefully manage my bags |
| 11:34.57 | Tekkub | not really |
| 11:35.08 | SysTem-X | 15-25 wow. |
| 11:35.12 | Tekkub | look at the damage and stats, take the higher one |
| 11:35.23 | SysTem-X | hm ok |
| 11:35.45 | Tekkub | as a hunter you're going to generally want Attack Power, Agility, Hit rating, maybe crit rating |
| 11:35.49 | SysTem-X | damn, engineering is crap? =/ |
| 11:36.19 | Tekkub | http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/03/14/the-sad-state-of-engineering/ |
| 11:36.24 | SysTem-X | so if i get gems and all, i should just get rid of them in the AH? |
| 11:36.25 | bleetah | depends what they offer when they implement the fixup |
| 11:36.40 | bleetah | 'coz they've promised it as the first profession to be fixed after the BC release |
| 11:36.44 | Tekkub | when and if bleetah |
| 11:36.45 | Tekkub | :) |
| 11:36.51 | bleetah | *when* that's implemented, is the quesiotn ;) |
| 11:36.53 | bleetah | er.. question ;) |
| 11:36.59 | bleetah | Tekkub: precise |
| 11:37.04 | Tekkub | and if, that's the other question :) |
| 11:37.12 | bleetah | nononon |
| 11:37.17 | Tekkub | yayayaya |
| 11:37.27 | bleetah | 'coz the when could be like... oh... like... 50 years from now |
| 11:37.31 | bleetah | when we're all dead and buried |
| 11:37.35 | bleetah | so we need not worry |
| 11:37.39 | bleetah | our children, tho |
| 11:37.39 | SysTem-X | omg |
| 11:37.48 | Tekkub | Sys, take mining/skinning or herb/skinning and just auction off everything |
| 11:37.52 | bleetah | Civil Rights?! WT?F!F |
| 11:38.01 | SysTem-X | skinning sounds good :P |
| 11:38.08 | Tekkub | you will be happier in the end, you'll hit 40 and have cash to buy your mount |
| 11:38.20 | SysTem-X | roughly how much is it? |
| 11:38.21 | bleetah | civil rights would be you don't get killed by other people |
| 11:38.47 | SysTem-X | im 25 now, worth dropping engineering at this lvl? |
| 11:38.47 | bleetah | that post must've been written by a gentoo user |
| 11:38.48 | Tekkub | when you get up around 70 and decide if you're going to be raiding, that's when you should really look at the production crafts |
| 11:39.14 | Tekkub | yea, and run around the lower zones leveling the skill up |
| 11:39.28 | Tekkub | you can always buy crafted items off the AH |
| 11:39.41 | SysTem-X | bommer lol |
| 11:39.43 | Tekkub | and that in it'sself is usually cheaper than leveling it yourself |
| 11:39.58 | SysTem-X | if i drop engineering, what ive learnt in there will be gone too? |
| 11:40.21 | Tekkub | when you get up in your late 60's money comes easy, and you can just buy mats off the AH and powerlevel up the craft you find useful |
| 11:40.39 | Tekkub | (and thus fund the other smart players that took a dual-gathering setup) |
| 11:40.54 | SysTem-X | so why didnt u drop engineering |
| 11:41.28 | Tekkub | I did dual gather to like 45, then one day decided to give engineering a whirl |
| 11:41.40 | Tekkub | cause the trinkets looked kewl |
| 11:41.50 | Tekkub | but in the end, I don't use a damn one of them |
| 11:42.06 | Tekkub | and crafting ammo just isn't very cost effective |
| 11:42.37 | SysTem-X | sigh ok |
| 11:42.41 | Tekkub | especially now, in BC there arrows that have the same bonus as the ammo, and you only need faction rep to be able to buy it |
| 11:42.41 | SysTem-X | thanks for the insight :) |
| 11:43.09 | Tekkub | I'd rather grind that faction than grind Eng up more, and then harvest any time I want ammo |
| 11:43.26 | Tekkub | it's a harsh reality, but I don't want someone else making my mistake :) |
| 11:43.31 | bleetah | SysTem-X: you're on Barthilas Oceania? |
| 11:43.42 | SysTem-X | yes bleetah |
| 11:43.55 | SysTem-X | ok thanks tekkub |
| 11:43.56 | bleetah | I think I had a toon there once.. deleted it |
| 11:43.59 | bleetah | too many aussies |
| 11:44.00 | SysTem-X | lol. |
| 11:44.07 | Tekkub | asses? |
| 11:44.09 | SysTem-X | i landed on the wrong server, thers not much ppl there |
| 11:44.14 | Tekkub | oh theres a 'u' in there |
| 11:44.26 | bleetah | you've got butts on the brain! |
| 11:44.48 | Tekkub | yes yes |
| 11:44.54 | bleetah | yeah, well, from memory, it was in the second group of oceania servers opened up, 'round the same time as amanthul |
| 11:44.57 | Tekkub | both me and the hubby are off next week |
| 11:45.02 | Tekkub | I'll take care of that issue |
| 11:45.13 | Tekkub | would tanight but dinner wasn't setting well... |
| 11:45.13 | bleetah | so, when BC hit, you would've had a few people going back to their old realms with their old high level chars and stuff |
| 11:45.22 | bleetah | Imm sure it''l mature over time |
| 11:45.27 | Tekkub | hence me noticing the Pepto Bismol was expired |
| 11:45.36 | bleetah | Tekkub: you're always off.. like a bucket of prawns in the sun :P |
| 11:45.37 | Tekkub | so, it's still not sitting well |
| 11:46.21 | Tekkub | servers are odd... it all depends on you finding a good guild to level with |
| 11:46.39 | Tekkub | A great guild can go to shit when your guild disbands |
| 11:46.52 | bleetah | Tekkub: the oceania ones are still weird and messed up, 'goz of the inital transfer policies and stuff |
| 11:46.59 | bleetah | I give it another six months to settle out |
| 11:47.11 | bleetah | s/goz/coz/ |
| 11:47.16 | Tekkub | damn you screwey underpeople |
| 11:47.48 | Tekkub | *sigh* I miss my tauren druid now |
| 11:47.54 | Tekkub | fucking PvP servers |
| 11:48.09 | Tekkub | I don't wanna pay for a transfer on a lv35 char |
| 11:48.11 | bleetah | i'm having fun on ravenholdt, us (rp-pvp).. when I get a chance to hop in |
| 11:48.18 | Tekkub | they should scale the price with level |
| 11:48.26 | bleetah | ain't levelled much, jsut a whole squad of low levels |
| 11:48.27 | bleetah | tooling around |
| 11:48.31 | Tekkub | 25 for a 70... 12.5 for a 35 |
| 11:48.44 | bleetah | indeed |
| 11:49.11 | Tekkub | better yet, make say, <45 a free transfer |
| 11:49.32 | Tekkub | it's the 60's bouncing between raid guilds where the demand is anyway |
| 11:49.33 | bleetah | nah, <30 free, 30-55 50% |
| 11:49.38 | bleetah | then 55+ 100% |
| 11:49.45 | bleetah | well, 10<>30 free |
| 11:49.54 | Tekkub | <40 free, since there's the mount threshold :) |
| 11:50.00 | Tekkub | 40's an important level |
| 11:50.16 | bleetah | meh, it's the old 2/3 |
| 11:50.23 | Tekkub | maybe no xfer for <20 |
| 11:50.24 | Tekkub | ? |
| 11:50.36 | bleetah | 40 is 2/3 of 60 |
| 11:50.42 | Tekkub | I mean, if ya wanna ya can hit 20 in like 3 nights |
| 11:50.49 | bleetah | I suspect the next XPac will MAXLEVEL 75 |
| 11:51.02 | bleetah | so, the 2/3 will be.. erm.,... 2/3 of 75 |
| 11:51.03 | Tekkub | probably |
| 11:51.12 | Tekkub | 50 |
| 11:51.14 | Tekkub | god |
| 11:51.17 | Tekkub | lern2math |
| 11:51.35 | SysTem-X | how does a dorf hunter do a duel |
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| 11:51.41 | bleetah | (I say 75 'coz of the profession skill.. it's a dead giveaway they're thinking that they done wanna worry 'bout more skill lessons etc. for next pack) |
| 11:51.46 | SysTem-X | cause i cant seem to fight melee well |
| 11:51.48 | bleetah | i don't need to l2math |
| 11:51.52 | bleetah | i got a tekkub in # |
| 11:51.56 | bleetah | let tekkub do math |
| 11:52.13 | Tekkub | don't ask me sys, I don't pvp |
| 11:52.29 | SysTem-X | i meant dual among your own people |
| 11:52.34 | bleetah | SysTem-X: if the opponent's any good, they'll ignore your pet. |
| 11:52.40 | SysTem-X | ya they do |
| 11:52.46 | SysTem-X | so i cant use my gun lol |
| 11:53.01 | bleetah | learn to icetrap, mongoose bite, get outta range, concussion and if your BM spec intimidation 'n stuff |
| 11:53.02 | SysTem-X | oh, what kind of pet do you recommend tekkub |
| 11:53.18 | bleetah | not in that order, but basically slow down the time between their casts etc. |
| 11:53.20 | SysTem-X | ok |
| 11:53.26 | Tekkub | I like bears, but that has nothing to do with the game |
| 11:53.42 | bleetah | I aint duelled since they changed pet attack speeds /cry |
| 11:53.59 | Tekkub | try a bear or similar tank pet and a wolf or cat, a damage pet, see which you like more |
| 11:54.38 | Tekkub | I've had the same bear since lvl10, but that's just me |
| 11:54.57 | SysTem-X | oh |
| 11:54.59 | SysTem-X | i took a leopard |
| 11:55.11 | bleetah | I changed my pets when I got to 58+, but that was 'back in the day' when different pets had different attack speeds |
| 11:55.24 | Tekkub | if you're gonna pvp, you'll probably want a dps pet, a tank is pointless there |
| 11:55.28 | bleetah | and so therefore there'd be advantages etc. 'coz of that.. now.. meh, dun really care |
| 11:55.58 | Tekkub | yea bleh, I only took hunter in the first place to get the free bear |
| 11:56.08 | bleetah | SysTem-X: for a decent writeup on pet info, google for 'petopia' |
| 11:56.13 | Tekkub | I really wish I'd gone druid or chamois instead |
| 11:56.14 | SysTem-X | ok doing now |
| 11:56.30 | Tekkub | ~google petopia |
| 11:56.43 | Tekkub | fuck you infobot |
| 11:57.15 | SysTem-X | ive seen crawlers owning |
| 11:57.20 | Tekkub | *goes back to making little addons |
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| 11:58.08 | bleetah | arrrgh! my new domain is *still* not registered |
| 12:00.23 | SysTem-X | my cat sux =/ looked at the stats lol |
| 12:00.51 | bleetah | gah, yet another 'help get my money out of a safety deposit box' scam ending with the phrase 'God be with you'.. don't these freaks know that's the origin of.. GOODBYE!!!! |
| 12:01.41 | SysTem-X | spider looks good |
| 12:29.05 | Kirkburn|afk | Did you see Whitewolf's followup? |
| 12:29.05 | Kirkburn|afk | http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Whitewolf |
| 12:29.05 | Kirkburn|afk | The man's either mad, or attempting to make a joke |
| 12:29.06 | Tekkub | oh oh I want to quote back at him |
| 12:29.06 | Tekkub | can I? |
| 12:29.06 | Tekkub | mine will actually, you know, relate to WoW |
| 12:29.06 | Kirkburn|afk | If you want :P |
| 12:29.06 | Tekkub | lemme find it, you're gonna love it |
| 12:29.40 | SysTem-X | hey tekkub |
| 12:29.45 | SysTem-X | skinning is pretty easy eh? |
| 12:29.52 | SysTem-X | skin and sell? :P |
| 12:32.17 | Kirkburn|afk | Skinning is v cool for money |
| 12:32.29 | SysTem-X | yeah hehe |
| 12:32.46 | SysTem-X | hm, if i unlearn my profession, i lose everything i learnt in it? |
| 12:32.49 | SysTem-X | the points imean |
| 12:32.56 | Kirkburn|afk | Yeah :( |
| 12:33.13 | SysTem-X | holy |
| 12:35.10 | SysTem-X | i definitely gotta think hard if i should drop engineering |
| 12:36.00 | Kirkburn|afk | What level have you reached? |
| 12:36.13 | SysTem-X | im lvl 24, engineering at 105+ |
| 12:36.34 | Kirkburn|afk | 105 isn't too high |
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| 12:37.16 | SysTem-X | id have to go back to the lower levels to dev my skinning eh/ |
| 12:37.29 | Kirkburn|afk | Yeah, but it wouldn't take long |
| 12:37.31 | Tekkub | hit the yeti cave in dun morough |
| 12:37.41 | SysTem-X | ah :) |
| 12:37.43 | Tekkub | near Kharanos |
| 12:37.50 | SysTem-X | yup im fimiliar with that |
| 12:37.56 | Tekkub | then the raptors in Wetlands |
| 12:38.10 | SysTem-X | so ill get new quests then with skinning |
| 12:38.35 | Kirkburn|afk | No skinning quests afaik |
| 12:38.50 | SysTem-X | hm ok |
| 12:38.56 | bleetah | isnt' there one in feralas? or is that a standard drop? |
| 12:39.20 | Tekkub | kirky, is there a wiki page for OUR terms of use? |
| 12:39.21 | SysTem-X | i think because ihave engineering i have to go to gnomeran to do quests? |
| 12:39.39 | bleetah | the LW trainer in Feathermoon, I seem to recall, has some profession quest, and there's a yeti hide quest from him too, can't remember tho if it is actually a skinning quest |
| 12:40.20 | bleetah | I think my engi did the gnomer quest at level 57, it's not compulsory |
| 12:40.38 | Kirkburn|afk | Tekkub, we just have policies afaik |
| 12:40.43 | bleetah | was a little while ago, tho |
| 12:41.06 | Tekkub | well I need to link a policy to complement this... |
| 12:41.07 | Tekkub | "I hereby acknowledge that I have read and understand the foregoing License Agreement and agree that by clicking �Accept� or installing the Game Client I am acknowledging my agreement to be bound by the terms and conditions of this License Agreement." |
| 12:41.08 | Tekkub | ^^ |
| 12:41.30 | SysTem-X | bleetah: so what do u use engineering for? |
| 12:41.37 | Tekkub | he wants to quote legal blibbityblah, make sure it's relavent to the topic at hand |
| 12:41.55 | Tekkub | I'm going to guess repair bots and jumper cables? |
| 12:42.13 | SysTem-X | i like jumper cables, but it has a % of success =/ |
| 12:42.47 | Tekkub | ~0% |
| 12:43.01 | bleetah | SysTem-X: not much... getting to the neutral AH for super discounts, jumper cables for when the ressurection classes are out and miracle of mircales I'm still going, couple of odd looking helms.. crafting guns for other toons that are levelling |
| 12:43.03 | bleetah | nah, goblin jumpers are 50% |
| 12:43.15 | bleetah | i think standards are like 25% or 20% |
| 12:43.58 | SysTem-X | i dont see a cooldown for it |
| 12:44.18 | SysTem-X | so after 10mins, u can redeploy another |
| 12:44.20 | SysTem-X | ? |
| 12:44.22 | bleetah | 5 mins, I think.. maybe 10.. been a while |
| 12:44.30 | bleetah | don't know if they share cooldowns, either |
| 12:44.44 | bleetah | I don't play as much as what I used to |
| 12:45.13 | SysTem-X | hm, might be a 1 time deployment thing |
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| 12:46.28 | bleetah | wowhead.com may have 'better' info on those items, compared to wowwiki.. dunno really |
| 12:46.41 | bleetah | s/those/some/ |
| 12:46.44 | SysTem-X | i tried thottbot |
| 12:46.52 | bleetah | it 'pays to shop around' sometimes between the various info sites |
| 12:47.00 | SysTem-X | its a 1 chharge thing |
| 12:47.00 | bleetah | oO infobot woke up! |
| 12:47.15 | bleetah | ?jumpers one charge? nah |
| 12:47.19 | SysTem-X | what UI mods do you guys use? |
| 12:47.25 | SysTem-X | i meant repar bot |
| 12:47.28 | SysTem-X | repair* |
| 12:47.32 | bleetah | oh yeah, they are |
| 12:47.45 | bleetah | I use them too.. just don't raid much any more at all, so always forget them |
| 12:48.05 | SysTem-X | hehe, what ui mod do u use? |
| 12:48.12 | Tekkub | there, this is as nice as I can possibly be |
| 12:48.21 | Tekkub | "The admins have seen your argument, deliberated at length, and are formally asking you to move along quietly so that we do not have to take action." |
| 12:48.27 | Tekkub | if he replies, ban him :) |
| 12:48.28 | SysTem-X | i gtg, see u in abit |
| 12:49.13 | Tekkub | length == "llok at this fucksmudge, who wants to ban him?" |
| 12:49.21 | bleetah | Tekkub: this is why you're an admin, and I'm not |
| 12:49.26 | bleetah | I'd just ban |
| 12:49.31 | bleetah | for admin tolling |
| 12:49.33 | bleetah | trolling |
| 12:49.42 | Tekkub | I like to pour salt in wounds BEFORE banning |
| 12:50.16 | bleetah | oh, I can help out there |
| 12:50.16 | Tekkub | simple effective banning of trolls just isn't gratifying |
| 12:50.45 | Tekkub | they come trying to ilitic a reaction, it's much more amusing to turn it back on them, get THEM pissed, and then silence them. |
| 12:50.56 | Tekkub | illicit... (sp?) |
| 12:51.05 | bleetah | illicit |
| 12:51.21 | bleetah | I added my 2c |
| 12:51.48 | Tekkub | oh oh, I want to resond to that |
| 12:51.54 | Tekkub | *respond |
| 12:52.10 | bleetah | I beleive it's my first ever wowwiki derogatory remark |
| 12:52.44 | bleetah | oh crap, I missed kirkburn's earlier flamewar warning.. hope he doesn't ban me :-s |
| 12:52.54 | Kirkburn|afk | lol |
| 12:52.57 | Tekkub | flames? bah |
| 12:53.06 | Tekkub | the page will be nuked when we ban him |
| 12:53.16 | Tekkub | till then let us have fun |
| 12:54.57 | Tekkub | muahahahahahaha |
| 12:56.13 | Tekkub | see the fun of feeding trolls and getting them worked up, is to never directly flame the troll. You must imply things, usually under the guise of making fun of yourself |
| 12:57.09 | bleetah | you idiot :-P |
| 12:57.20 | bleetah | crap, I replied to your idiocy... , must make me a moron. |
| 12:58.28 | Tekkub | ^^^ |
| 12:59.13 | Tekkub | I can't help it, I have to fix the indents to make the convo flow correctly |
| 12:59.44 | bleetah | hmm, I think I might've gone ott there |
| 13:00.59 | Tekkub | I think I'll stop, the next thing I'll say will be very NSFP |
| 13:01.23 | winkiller | nsf_p_? |
| 13:01.42 | bleetah | publication? |
| 13:01.50 | Tekkub | not safe for prudes |
| 13:02.06 | winkiller | prudes? o_O |
| 13:02.31 | Kirkburn|afk | Added my view |
| 13:02.52 | bleetah | Tekkub: "Sorry, I got backstabbed and swallowed" kind of thing? |
| 13:03.30 | Tekkub | who knows, I have to censor myself, that's when the fun ends |
| 13:03.36 | Tekkub | but to make up for that... |
| 13:03.46 | bleetah | lol@kirk |
| 13:03.46 | Tekkub | fuck fuckidy fuck fuck boobs |
| 13:03.56 | bleetah | mmm boobies |
| 13:07.55 | Bleeter | oO |
| 13:08.56 | Bleeter | ... I hear violence! |
| 13:09.24 | Bleeter | 'sif that's a WoW quest, you lose |
| 13:10.11 | Tekkub | would rather have ZUNG ZUNG FUNKY MUSIC from musiQ by ORANGE RANGE? |
| 13:10.57 | Tekkub | 男子ing session <-- I like to thing this says "fucking session" |
| 13:11.05 | Tekkub | s/thing/think/ |
| 13:11.15 | Tekkub | hehe |
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| 13:26.31 | bleetah | nn all |
| 13:26.38 | Tuqui-tuqui | nn bleetah |
| 13:26.43 | Tuqui-tuqui | even though its 9:28 am |
| 13:26.55 | bleetah | bloody snadgropers :-P |
| 13:26.56 | Tekkub | I'm about to go to bed too :P |
| 13:27.00 | bleetah | *sandgropers |
| 13:27.10 | Tuqui-tuqui | >.> |
| 13:27.16 | Tekkub | blehtah, go repliy to tardguy one last time |
| 13:27.26 | bleetah | gah, okly 'coz it's you asking |
| 13:27.50 | Tekkub | hrm... need more wodka, taht was still readable |
| 13:28.54 | bleetah | done |
| 13:30.15 | p30n | what time is it over there? |
| 13:30.17 | p30n | if ur drinking |
| 13:32.01 | Tekkub | 0831 |
| 13:32.01 | *** join/#wowwiki amro (n=amro@82.101.184.194) |
| 13:32.12 | Tekkub | if you're up for a little troll provoking... http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Whitewolf |
| 13:32.27 | Tekkub | I'm sure he'll be banned and that'll be deleted by the time I'm up |
| 13:33.52 | Kirkburn|afk | Nah, I won't delete it for a while |
| 13:34.06 | Tekkub | aw, yous no fun |
| 13:34.27 | Tekkub | what if he's another what's that guy's name that keeps reregistering to vandalate |
| 13:34.42 | Tekkub | asshat is a sexy bitch in all caps or something? |
| 13:35.17 | Kirkburn|afk | At least this attempt is fun I guess? :) |
| 13:35.33 | Kirkburn|afk | I won't delete it cause it's too much fun to show people :P |
| 13:35.56 | Tekkub | fine, you want fun, I want more pictures in there when I get up |
| 13:36.11 | Kirkburn|afk | lol |
| 13:45.14 | Tekkub | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_LhKNcxWPw&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Egoogle%2Ecom%2Freader%2Fview%2F |
| 13:45.17 | Tekkub | gnome bits |
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| 14:17.44 | kaso | The murloc aggro sound makes me smile every time i hear it |
| 14:19.29 | *** join/#wowwiki Noxik (n=cheatman@pc194.ehs.sk) |
| 14:19.34 | Noxik | hi all |
| 14:20.30 | Noxik | anyone play wow? |
| 14:20.36 | Tekkub | no |
| 14:21.36 | Noxik | :lol: |
| 14:22.16 | equirapt1r | Once upon a time I did. |
| 14:22.27 | equirapt1r | I still try to, sometimes. |
| 14:22.35 | Noxik | and Burning Crusade? |
| 14:24.05 | kaso | Noxik, given this channel has wow in the title you can assume 90% of the people in here play wow |
| 14:24.59 | Noxik | kaso: Right idea :D i think that, but this room is little silent |
| 14:25.16 | Noxik | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:25.26 | kaso | Theres alot of Americans here who are asleep around now |
| 14:25.58 | Noxik | we have 15:25 and you? |
| 14:26.11 | kaso | im an hour behind you |
| 14:26.12 | kaso | in england |
| 14:26.27 | Noxik | thats good |
| 14:26.34 | kaso | in US its like 8-11 in the morning if my quick maths is right |
| 14:26.42 | Noxik | London? |
| 14:27.22 | kaso | I live in Lancaster, but we all use London time in england |
| 14:27.37 | kaso | you there mae |
| 14:27.40 | kaso | mate |
| 14:27.49 | Tekkub | US is Z-5 to Z-8 |
| 14:27.49 | Kirkburn|afk | mmhmm |
| 14:27.54 | Noxik | I must use wordlist, pls w8 |
| 14:28.08 | Tekkub | ignoring bullshit DLST |
| 14:28.08 | kaso | the wowwiki news section is fucked up on the main page |
| 14:28.35 | kaso | the WoWWiki:News link is like twice over-lapping |
| 14:29.08 | Noxik | DLST? |
| 14:29.20 | Tekkub | daylight stupid time |
| 14:29.25 | Noxik | LOL |
| 14:29.58 | kaso | Do you see the same as me? |
| 14:29.58 | Kirkburn|afk | Oh ffs |
| 14:30.06 | Kirkburn|afk | Adys deleted the image :) |
| 14:30.15 | kaso | aah that makes sense |
| 14:30.22 | Kirkburn|afk | Adys, you tit! |
| 14:30.27 | kaso | Adys hes trying to hard to beat your delete count |
| 14:30.45 | Noxik | Thats nice : http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Kaelthas.jpg |
| 14:32.38 | Noxik | everybody in this room plays on official WoW server? |
| 14:33.01 | Kirkburn|afk | Yes. |
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| 14:33.35 | Tuqui-tuqui | yes |
| 14:33.44 | Noxik | hm, i dont have too much money for it |
| 14:33.51 | kaso | You might want to read read http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:IRC Noxik |
| 14:34.07 | kaso | Rule 1 in particular. |
| 14:34.25 | Noxik | Absolutely no discussion of how to exploit or emulated servers or other matters that break the WoW EULA and/or ToS, unless directly relating to the WoWWiki. this? |
| 14:34.31 | Kirkburn|afk | Aye :) |
| 14:34.35 | Noxik | :D |
| 14:34.40 | Tuqui-tuqui | :D |
| 14:35.13 | Tuqui-tuqui | D: |
| 14:35.16 | Hobinheim|work | lol BOO |
| 14:35.35 | kaso | You're not a real Admin? |
| 14:35.37 | equirapt1r | A minirant, not aimed at anyone in particular: Why is it that people think it's ok to break laws and contracts on IRC, even if they wouldn't discuss such matters elsewhere? |
| 14:35.45 | Noxik | whats different: pvp and roleplay? |
| 14:36.18 | Hobinheim|work | equiraptor, teh internet is safe |
| 14:36.25 | Hobinheim|work | it's like allied territory |
| 14:36.26 | equiraptor | Privacy is even more difficult to ensure in IRC than in other Internet media! |
| 14:36.31 | Hobinheim|work | they'll never catch me! |
| 14:36.37 | Kirkburn|afk | kaso, how about now? |
| 14:36.38 | Tuqui-tuqui | equiraptor, it's because there is a sense of privacy in IRC :D |
| 14:36.51 | equiraptor | But it's a false one, typically. :( |
| 14:36.58 | Tuqui-tuqui | idd it might be |
| 14:36.58 | kaso | Looks perfect |
| 14:37.02 | Tuqui-tuqui | but think about it |
| 14:37.11 | Tuqui-tuqui | you psend days at atime in achannel talking to names |
| 14:37.23 | equiraptor | I mean, hell, I log everything my client sees. And I consider all of it public record unless a channel is password protected or I'm requested not to share something. |
| 14:37.45 | Tuqui-tuqui | AMG! equiraptor is an industry spy! |
| 14:37.55 | Tuqui-tuqui | are you working for Viacom >:{ |
| 14:37.55 | equiraptor | Yup, I sure am. |
| 14:38.11 | Noxik | what internet browser you use? |
| 14:38.13 | Hobinheim|work | infobot, make love to butthead |
| 14:38.26 | infobot | make: *** No rule to make target `love to butthead'. Stop. |
| 14:38.26 | equiraptor | No, really, I'm not. I just like being able to say, "Nyah, nyah, see, I was right, I have LOGS THAT PROVE IT!" |
| 14:38.40 | Tuqui-tuqui | heh |
| 14:39.06 | kaso | ha |
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| 14:39.18 | *** join/#wowwiki kaso (n=kaso@resnet12.nat.lancs.ac.uk) |
| 14:40.12 | kaso | Kirkburn|afk, any ideas why Fandyllic is ignoring me :< i feel so hurt. /me cries |
| 14:40.39 | Kirkburn|afk | To get bot status? |
| 14:40.49 | *** part/#wowwiki Noxik (n=cheatman@pc194.ehs.sk) |
| 14:40.55 | kaso | yah |
| 14:41.01 | Kirkburn|afk | I'll ask vlad |
| 14:41.10 | kaso | Thanks alot |
| 14:41.58 | Kirkburn|afk | Who knows if /I'll/ get an answer :P |
| 14:42.50 | kaso | The effort is appreciated |
| 14:43.22 | Tuqui-tuqui | for the horde? |
| 14:51.13 | kaso | I'm going to make 5 edits to User:Kaso/ pages via my bot as another test, sorry to RC watching people :> |
| 14:54.08 | equiraptor | Wow. That whitewolf guy quoted a chunk of the miranda rights at yall, as if he was some kind of police officer arresting you? |
| 14:54.11 | equiraptor | Sheesh. |
| 14:54.22 | equiraptor | I don't know if he's bored or insane, but either way... |
| 15:01.21 | kaso | Hmm i've just though of something |
| 15:01.33 | kaso | What's the accepted course of action when two items have the same name? |
| 15:06.13 | Bagginsww | So rename Race Rumors to "race wishes"? |
| 15:06.28 | Bagginsww | because its mostly people's wishes, rather than actual rumors :p |
| 15:06.44 | Kirkburn|afk | Controversial |
| 15:07.34 | Bagginsww | I moved Expansion rumors to expansion ideas the other day because of people's complaints over in white wolf forums that its more fan ideas than actual rumors. |
| 15:07.48 | Kirkburn|afk | equiraptor, from what he said I felt like I had to go and have a meeting with myself about my conduct, possibly even admonish myself for being so naughty. |
| 15:07.56 | Bagginsww | tied to that whirlygig issue |
| 15:07.59 | Kirkburn|afk | Bagginsww, agreed with that |
| 15:08.18 | Kirkburn|afk | "Future race ideas" ? |
| 15:08.27 | equiraptor | Kirkburn: Oh, yes. You've been so naughty. *eyeroll* |
| 15:08.33 | Kirkburn|afk | "Future playable race ideas"? |
| 15:08.47 | Bagginsww | equiraptor? whitewolf guy? |
| 15:08.51 | equiraptor | It's like the people who try to claim they have a right to free speech on LiveJournal. Oh, the government bought LJ? Really? |
| 15:08.59 | Kirkburn|afk | Yup, Whitewolf |
| 15:08.59 | equiraptor | http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Whitewolf |
| 15:09.14 | Bagginsww | future race ideas would work I guess. |
| 15:09.42 | Kirkburn|afk | Go do, go do :) |
| 15:09.56 | Kirkburn|afk | (Yay for redirects) |
| 15:10.09 | Bagginsww | ROFFLE |
| 15:10.14 | Kirkburn|afk | Can I just say Andrea Ross has an amazing voice |
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| 15:11.59 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Future_race_ideas moved |
| 15:13.23 | Bagginsww | you know I suppose I should probably update the articles on Magnataur and Tuskarr, so that "limited" lore is not an excuse, LOL |
| 15:13.48 | Kirkburn|afk | Go do, go do :P |
| 15:14.10 | Bagginsww | I think biggest issue with magnataur though is probalby they are huge, and they hate everyone :p |
| 15:15.04 | Bagginsww | Tuskarr are one of those races that fall closer to Alliance than Horde too. |
| 15:15.15 | Bagginsww | due to alliance trading n the region. |
| 15:16.27 | Bagginsww | magnataur hate each other too, LOL |
| 15:16.57 | Kirkburn|afk | Possible other pages to look at? http://www.wowwiki.com/Future_race_ideas#Other_Relevant_Rumor_Pages |
| 15:19.12 | Kirkburn|afk | The name "Lobstrok" - is that completely dead now? |
| 15:20.24 | winkiller | I only know Bogstrok |
| 15:22.08 | Bagginsww | lobstrok is a file name apparently |
| 15:22.34 | Bagginsww | which in itself could be "data mining"? |
| 15:37.50 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Magnataur |
| 15:38.19 | Bagginsww | info from MoM for now. I'll added extended info from Lands of Mystery at some other point |
| 15:38.41 | Bagginsww | I have to debrannize the content, LOL |
| 15:39.01 | Bagginsww | His style is too informal |
| 15:39.22 | Bagginsww | although its loads more entertaining ;) |
| 15:52.09 | Kirkburn|afk | Totally agree there :P |
| 15:53.48 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Magnataur |
| 15:53.51 | Bagginsww | added racebox |
| 16:00.35 | Bagginsww | alright I'll go work on tuskarr now |
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| 16:03.33 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+o Gryphen] by ChanServ |
| 16:17.12 | Kirkburn|afk | Improve me! http://www.wowwiki.com/Samwise_Didier |
| 16:17.27 | Kirkburn|afk | ( http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/03/16/samwise-didier-warcraft-icon/ ) |
| 16:21.13 | Kirkburn|afk | Compare it to before I got to work - http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Samwise_Didier&oldid=496810 |
| 16:23.00 | Bagginsww | tuskarr updated |
| 16:29.38 | Bagginsww | ugh now to fix that racebox... lots of issues |
| 16:29.48 | Bagginsww | well wit the "presumed" classes |
| 16:38.27 | Bagginsww | You know other creatures to add to menagerie of unseen but known creatures of warcraft would be any mentioned by characters, in various sources to discribe other races, :) |
| 16:38.32 | Bagginsww | like "Walrus-men" |
| 16:38.35 | Bagginsww | for tuskarr |
| 16:39.18 | Bagginsww | if brann can describe them in relation to Walruses, then walruses must exist. |
| 16:44.44 | Tuqui-tuqui | I have a question regarding the staf of Atiesh |
| 16:44.50 | Tuqui-tuqui | do the splinters that are dropped |
| 16:44.57 | Tuqui-tuqui | do you need a quest to pick them up? |
| 16:45.02 | Tuqui-tuqui | or are they drops you can pick up |
| 16:52.50 | Bagginsww | random drops as far as I know |
| 16:56.13 | Bagginsww | so, Kirkburn not everything that looks like a "bog beast" is necessarily a "bog beast" |
| 16:56.48 | Bagginsww | Monster Guide added like 3 more classifications, and history for those |
| 16:57.12 | Bagginsww | Tar Beasts, Timberlings, Thistleshrub |
| 16:57.40 | Bagginsww | various classificaitons between elemental, and large plant |
| 17:16.35 | Industrial | :o |
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| 17:57.05 | Bagginsww | added thistleshrub article |
| 17:57.11 | Bagginsww | and tar beast |
| 18:01.12 | Kirkburn|afk | Lol, my Wii Fitness age leapt to 26 today. 57 yesterday. |
| 18:11.35 | vlad_ | Kirkburn|afk: yeah, that's like my brain age age |
| 18:11.39 | vlad_ | I got down to 21 |
| 18:11.46 | vlad_ | but that was 6 months ago |
| 18:11.51 | vlad_ | I never saw any reason to play again though! |
| 18:11.56 | vlad_ | btw, I thought you were already a bureaucrat |
| 18:12.11 | Kirkburn|afk | Nope, don't think so |
| 18:12.53 | Kirkburn|afk | http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Listusers/Bureaucrat |
| 18:13.00 | vlad_ | done |
| 18:13.11 | vlad_ | btw, Nebu (blizzard Nebu) emailed me yesterday |
| 18:13.21 | vlad_ | he was upset at the slander or somesuch on the page about him |
| 18:13.22 | Bagginsww | Kirkburn, finished Timberlings, and Swampwalkers, and new Timberling Category |
| 18:13.41 | vlad_ | even though I didn't think there was any, was just some historical dirt that probalby didn't need to be brought up |
| 18:13.47 | vlad_ | but it was moved to another page, looks fine now |
| 18:14.16 | Kirkburn|afk | Nebu edited I see |
| 18:14.55 | Kirkburn|afk | Gonna fix up his work |
| 18:17.27 | Bagginsww | I wonder if we can truly classify those bog beast like creatures in outland as "bog beasts" now |
| 18:17.49 | Bagginsww | onsidering that several Azeroth creatures sharing the model have been seperated into seperate creatures |
| 18:18.46 | Kirkburn|afk | Fixed up http://www.wowwiki.com/Geoff_Fraizer |
| 18:19.38 | vlad_ | I rather liked "Warcdraft" |
| 18:22.11 | Kirkburn|afk | lol |
| 18:22.13 | Kirkburn|afk | He was obviously in a rush. Or angry. Or both. |
| 18:22.37 | Bagginsww | lol |
| 18:23.39 | Kirkburn|afk | I'm glad he didn't just remove the Kali Compton info, but dealt with it sensibly |
| 18:25.48 | Kirkburn|afk | vlad_, ta for bureaucrat-ness |
| 18:26.20 | vlad_ | yeah, I was worried he'd try to just delete stuff |
| 18:26.25 | vlad_ | even though as I said it's mostly "historical dirt" |
| 18:27.07 | Kirkburn|afk | Kaso, sorted |
| 18:27.11 | Kirkburn|afk | You're botted up |
| 18:27.21 | Kaso | Woot! |
| 18:28.15 | Kaso | I'll tidy some code up tonight then run a largish scale test, say 30 items |
| 18:30.06 | Kaso | Kirkburn|afk, any ideas/suggestions about my question at the end of http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Boilerplate:Item |
| 18:31.02 | Kirkburn|afk | This help? http://www.wowwiki.com/Atiesh%2C_Greatstaff_of_the_Guardian |
| 18:31.25 | Kirkburn|afk | Needs tidying, that page |
| 18:31.29 | Kaso | ah |
| 18:31.38 | Kirkburn|afk | I'd say keep on one page for simplicity |
| 18:31.51 | Kirkburn|afk | Do indentcally named items have identical icons? |
| 18:32.03 | Kaso | i assume they would yes |
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| 18:32.20 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+o Adys] by ChanServ |
| 18:32.26 | Kaso | i dont think my addon can handle those however, and im not enitrely sure how i'd skip them |
| 18:32.27 | Adys | morning |
| 18:33.02 | Kirkburn|afk | Btw, as I'm reminded by being a bureaucrat now, if anyone has suggestions on who they think deserves to be an admin, PM me whenever |
| 18:33.06 | Kirkburn|afk | Hey Adys |
| 18:33.19 | Adys | WOOT |
| 18:33.22 | Adys | Good news :D |
| 18:34.20 | Adys | So we finally have an active bureaucrat :) |
| 18:34.47 | Kirkburn|afk | heh |
| 18:34.53 | Bagginsww | so adys, I know it adds more work to your classifications, but I had to seperate, bog beasts, tar beasts, timberlings, and thistleshrubs into seperate categories, as that is how the RPG is currently treating them. |
| 18:34.55 | Kirkburn|afk | vlad thought I already was one :P |
| 18:34.58 | Bagginsww | as completley different creatures |
| 18:35.07 | Adys | No worries baggins |
| 18:35.08 | Adys | lol |
| 18:35.45 | Bagginsww | I also added notes to the main topics to explain this. |
| 18:35.49 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Tar_beast#Notes |
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| 18:36.53 | Bagginsww | now if we had to categorize the 3-d model, I'd go with whatever it is in the files? |
| 18:40.15 | Adys | alo skosiris |
| 18:40.17 | Adys | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:40.23 | Adys | any news about the server upgrade? |
| 18:40.32 | Adys | or the software upgrade too |
| 18:40.38 | Adys | since rustak has been there |
| 18:40.48 | Tuqui-tuqui | spell check |
| 18:40.53 | Tuqui-tuqui | http://www.wowwiki.com/Tar_beast#Notes |
| 18:41.06 | Kirkburn|afk | He was around about 10 mins ago, so I'm sure he's seeing you ask, Adys. *cough* |
| 18:41.17 | Adys | Woot :D |
| 18:43.51 | Kaso | Kirkburn|afk, do you ever take off your afk tag? |
| 18:43.58 | Kirkburn|afk | nope ^^ |
| 18:44.12 | Kirkburn|afk | More fun this way |
| 18:44.38 | Kaso | hehe |
| 18:46.39 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Elemental you know that page is getting huge, I mean huge... We may want to split hte article down. |
| 18:47.08 | Bagginsww | there is enough lore that Air elementals, Water elem, Fire elem, etc could stand on their own |
| 18:47.32 | Adys | Wee |
| 18:47.33 | Adys | http://www.wikiwow.com/index.php/Discussion_Utilisateur:Adys |
| 18:47.34 | Bagginsww | and we could have the page link to, See Also, articles |
| 18:47.35 | Adys | im so honored |
| 18:47.47 | Adys | he said my user page was impressive =P |
| 18:48.01 | Bagginsww | how is the french wiki doing? |
| 18:48.07 | Adys | tis empty |
| 18:48.12 | Bagginsww | ahh :( |
| 18:48.51 | Adys | home page has been consulted 117029 times |
| 18:49.09 | Adys | By the way other admins |
| 18:49.13 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/Alterac_Valley_Mark_of_Honor/Icon dont delete it yet |
| 18:49.13 | Bagginsww | ahh |
| 18:49.27 | Adys | its still used but unlinked |
| 18:52.37 | Bagginsww | ok moved fire elemental section |
| 18:52.39 | Bagginsww | adding lore |
| 18:53.25 | *** join/#wowwiki dok3Dal (n=dok@AStrasbourg-251-1-66-243.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 18:55.48 | Kaso | Anyone wanna talk about {{tooltip}} and recipes. |
| 18:56.46 | Kirkburn|afk | I'm hungry |
| 18:56.49 | Kirkburn|afk | Mebbe later |
| 18:57.05 | Kaso | i'll spam you can reply at your leasure. |
| 18:57.10 | Kirkburn|afk | How kind |
| 18:57.31 | Kirkburn|afk | I'll receive your spam and ignore it leisurely too |
| 18:57.42 | Kirkburn|afk | "I was afk" |
| 18:57.46 | Kirkburn|afk | "My client crashed" |
| 18:57.47 | Kaso | haha |
| 18:57.51 | Kaso | perfect exhuse |
| 18:57.51 | Kirkburn|afk | "Aliens ate me" |
| 18:57.53 | *** join/#wowwiki Owner (n=chatzill@129.252.73.93) |
| 18:58.03 | Kirkburn|afk | "I got owned" |
| 18:58.05 | arcadia | hello |
| 18:58.17 | Kirkburn|afk | "An arcade machine fell on me" |
| 18:58.27 | arcadia | do all of you play WoW? |
| 18:58.39 | Kaso | its a wow channel! take a guess |
| 18:58.45 | arcadia | just asking |
| 18:58.48 | Kirkburn|afk | Wait, what is this place? It's scary! |
| 18:59.11 | arcadia | i just wanted some help on a few WoW elements |
| 18:59.14 | Kirkburn|afk | arcadia, indeed, this is a WoW channel :) |
| 18:59.19 | Kirkburn|afk | Ask away |
| 18:59.19 | arcadia | i don't play the game, but i like its themes |
| 18:59.24 | arcadia | okay coolies |
| 18:59.41 | Kirkburn|afk | Actually, this is better described as a Warcraft channel, so even better for you :P |
| 18:59.41 | arcadia | the elves in the game....describe their architecture |
| 18:59.50 | Kirkburn|afk | Which elves? ^^ |
| 18:59.54 | arcadia | um |
| 19:00.02 | arcadia | the blood elves |
| 19:00.14 | Kirkburn|afk | Japanese/oriental/middle eastern |
| 19:00.50 | Kirkburn|afk | Difficult to pin down, but a mix of the above in yellow, gold, red and green highlights |
| 19:01.12 | arcadia | ah |
| 19:01.13 | arcadia | hmm |
| 19:01.18 | arcadia | what else did i want to aks |
| 19:01.26 | arcadia | oh yeah. is it a subscriber game? |
| 19:01.36 | arcadia | like Ragnarok? |
| 19:01.51 | Adys | aye |
| 19:01.52 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Fire_Elemental |
| 19:02.03 | Adys | 11-13 euros/months |
| 19:02.03 | Bagginsww | an example of a new and improved Fire Elemental article |
| 19:02.24 | arcadia | what's that in dollars? |
| 19:02.33 | Adys | $11-13 :P |
| 19:02.38 | Adys | about that |
| 19:02.51 | Adys | Bagginsww: we should adapt the fire elemental screenshot |
| 19:02.52 | Kirkburn|afk | Cheap! |
| 19:02.59 | Adys | Surely worth it :) |
| 19:03.04 | Bagginsww | ya |
| 19:03.10 | arcadia | Ooo |
| 19:03.11 | Bagginsww | add some transparency work eh? |
| 19:03.13 | arcadia | i can afford that! |
| 19:03.13 | Kirkburn|afk | arcadia, there's regular updates and masses to do |
| 19:03.25 | arcadia | masses? |
| 19:03.35 | Bagginsww | working on air elemental next |
| 19:03.41 | Adys | Bagginsww: transparency or simply #333333 background |
| 19:03.48 | arcadia | oh, you guys are working |
| 19:03.49 | arcadia | ? |
| 19:03.50 | Kirkburn|afk | arcadia, lots |
| 19:03.52 | Adys | (or was it #222222?) |
| 19:03.56 | arcadia | sorry to interrupt then |
| 19:04.02 | Kirkburn|afk | Hah! Working ^^ |
| 19:04.05 | Kaso | hehe |
| 19:04.05 | Adys | Noes you're not interrupting |
| 19:04.06 | Bagginsww | I'll let people with art program know how do that :) |
| 19:04.15 | arcadia | oh okay |
| 19:04.19 | Kaso | Kirkburn perma has an afk tag, that tells you how much work he does! |
| 19:04.22 | Kirkburn|afk | arcadia, you're welcome to stick around |
| 19:04.24 | Adys | Bagginsww: is it you who took the screenshot? |
| 19:04.29 | arcadia | :D |
| 19:04.32 | arcadia | okay |
| 19:04.46 | Bagginsww | no |
| 19:04.48 | Kaso | kirkburn/anyone who wants to discuss: The template |create= wants to make a colored link to the item it creates, |
| 19:04.48 | Kaso | however on the talk page there's talk of making an embedded tooltip, that doesnt seem to reach any conclusions, |
| 19:04.48 | Kaso | however, on the Talk page of the boilerplate there seems to a conclusion as to using {{:ItemName}} after the equip line, but that seems to make no sense with the |creates= tag, Seeing as im gonna be making a few thousand of these tooltips i wanna get it right before it do, is there any concensus? atm my code uses the |creates= an example is on this page: http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Kaso/BotTest1 |
| 19:04.50 | Kirkburn|afk | The channel is quite quiet, so this is like Noah's flood atm |
| 19:04.54 | Bagginsww | I ripped it from the old elemental article |
| 19:04.57 | Adys | aah ok |
| 19:05.05 | Kirkburn|afk | Noah's SPAMMINGKASOGRR flood |
| 19:05.05 | Bagginsww | which I'm splitting up |
| 19:05.21 | Bagginsww | because its more of a techynical page than lore friendly page |
| 19:05.23 | Adys | you should be able to set the background to a certain color in modelviewer |
| 19:05.26 | Bagginsww | *technical |
| 19:05.44 | Adys | Im gonna do that |
| 19:05.57 | Adys | Kirk, the background is #222 or #333? |
| 19:05.58 | Kirkburn|afk | arcadia, I'm on a 6 month sub (the cheapest option), but that's just cause I /know/ I love WoW. |
| 19:06.00 | Bagginsww | once I split all the different elementals out of it, then I will improve it with lore |
| 19:06.02 | Kirkburn|afk | 333 |
| 19:06.07 | Adys | ok |
| 19:06.12 | arcadia | hmm |
| 19:06.31 | Kirkburn|afk | Kaso, imo, a link is best |
| 19:06.32 | arcadia | isn't there a game option where you don't have to pay? like a demo? |
| 19:06.37 | Kirkburn|afk | yup |
| 19:06.42 | Adys | theres the "trial" thingy |
| 19:06.51 | Adys | not sure how it works so leaving kirk explain cos he knows it all |
| 19:06.52 | Kirkburn|afk | How many days is that? I forget |
| 19:06.56 | Adys | 15 |
| 19:06.57 | Adys | nub |
| 19:07.04 | Adys | I just said you knew it all :( |
| 19:07.07 | Kirkburn|afk | Hey, and you want to leave it to ME to explain? |
| 19:07.08 | Kaso | Kirkburn|afk sweet i'll go with this, i think its best too because this way is following the templates and if needed/wanted the template can be altered still using the data i add |
| 19:07.26 | Kirkburn|afk | Adys, aww but I do! |
| 19:07.32 | Adys | pft |
| 19:07.33 | Kirkburn|afk | I'm just playin' with you :) |
| 19:07.37 | Adys | how many rows in spell.dbc ? |
| 19:07.42 | Adys | ... AHA! |
| 19:08.12 | Kirkburn|afk | arcadia, you should be able to download the Trial client and get a trial key. This gives you 15 days of free access, but you have in-game restrictions |
| 19:08.22 | arcadia | oh |
| 19:08.29 | Kirkburn|afk | If you like WoW, you can upgrade your trial account and unlock the whole game |
| 19:08.33 | arcadia | Oooo |
| 19:08.37 | arcadia | that sounds cool! |
| 19:08.42 | arcadia | do i go to the main site for that? |
| 19:08.43 | Adys | (theres 36591 rows in spell.dbc btw..) |
| 19:08.46 | Kirkburn|afk | So you keep your characters from the trial, basically |
| 19:09.02 | Kirkburn|afk | US or EU arc |
| 19:09.37 | Kirkburn|afk | If you're US - https://signup.worldofwarcraft.com/trial/index.htm |
| 19:09.45 | *** join/#wowwiki trik (i=trik@69.148.76.192) |
| 19:09.46 | Kirkburn|afk | It's a biig download :P |
| 19:09.56 | Adys | a few gigabytes |
| 19:10.16 | Adys | Kirkburn|afk: sorry to sound like an ass but MV asks me for the RVB color, do you know its equivalent :P |
| 19:10.28 | trik | anyone know why a lvl 70 blue item is better than T4/T5 items? |
| 19:10.38 | Kirkburn|afk | Adys, want to translate that acronym? ;) |
| 19:10.56 | Adys | I have no fucking idea about colors |
| 19:10.57 | Kirkburn|afk | trik, variety! =) |
| 19:11.03 | Kirkburn|afk | RVB, Adys |
| 19:11.07 | trik | variety?! |
| 19:11.08 | Kirkburn|afk | What does that stand for? :P |
| 19:11.14 | Adys | shit thats the french one sorry |
| 19:11.17 | Kirkburn|afk | trik, I don't know, it's crazy :) |
| 19:11.18 | Adys | RGB i meant |
| 19:11.23 | Kirkburn|afk | I know |
| 19:11.28 | Hobinheim|work | can we like |
| 19:11.32 | Hobinheim|work | flag fan added material |
| 19:11.33 | Adys | we can't like |
| 19:11.33 | Kirkburn|afk | Just being facetiuos :P |
| 19:11.35 | arcadia | thanks! |
| 19:11.37 | Hobinheim|work | like "rumors" and stuff |
| 19:11.43 | Adys | meh :P |
| 19:11.44 | Kirkburn|afk | *facetious? damn annoying word |
| 19:11.45 | arcadia | is my account name my characters' name? |
| 19:11.49 | Adys | No |
| 19:11.54 | Kirkburn|afk | arcadia, best not |
| 19:12.02 | Adys | you have up to 10 characters on one server |
| 19:12.08 | Hobinheim|work | the knights of arcadia!!! |
| 19:12.09 | Adys | and up to 50 characters overall |
| 19:12.21 | Adys | and every of them can have a different name |
| 19:12.22 | Bagginsww | oh adys, I might have missed adding classifcations to these articles could you check as I finish them? |
| 19:12.39 | Kirkburn|afk | Your account name is just that which you log into the game with |
| 19:12.55 | Kirkburn|afk | trik, which blue anyway? |
| 19:12.59 | Adys | Bagginsww: Ill have a look but mind you I suck at lore so I might miss a few or do just worse :P |
| 19:13.18 | *** join/#wowwiki Patrigan-Syldra (n=iron_pla@106.63-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 19:13.24 | Kirkburn|afk | Hobinheim|work, you're going to advocate a {{stupid}} template, aren't you |
| 19:13.26 | Adys | Kirkburn|afk: every lvl 70 instance blues are better than karazhan loot, blizzard fucked up the itemization |
| 19:13.29 | Patrigan-Syldra | http://entertainment.upperdeck.com/wow/en/news/article.aspx?aid=2251 |
| 19:13.29 | Adys | LOL |
| 19:13.29 | Bagginsww | well its probably categories like Category:Fire Elemental |
| 19:13.33 | Patrigan-Syldra | We're famous, so it seems |
| 19:13.39 | Patrigan-Syldra | kind of neat we get linked |
| 19:13.40 | Bagginsww | *s |
| 19:13.41 | Patrigan-Syldra | and hi all! |
| 19:13.42 | Kirkburn|afk | Adys, ah but they know about it at least |
| 19:13.44 | Bagginsww | Fire Elementals |
| 19:13.44 | trik | wastewalker gloves vs netherblade gloves |
| 19:13.48 | Patrigan-Syldra | been a while since I last been here ;) |
| 19:13.49 | Adys | aye they do |
| 19:13.51 | arcadia | yay its downloading |
| 19:13.53 | Kirkburn|afk | They've commented on it at least :) |
| 19:13.54 | arcadia | should take an hour |
| 19:13.58 | Bagginsww | we can create these sub categories if they don't exist already |
| 19:13.59 | Adys | hahaha |
| 19:14.00 | Kirkburn|afk | Patrigan-Syldra, hullo |
| 19:14.07 | Adys | the saurfang facts page is just ftw |
| 19:14.19 | Hobinheim|work | Kirkburn|afk, a mind reader |
| 19:14.23 | Patrigan-Syldra | but it's neat that we got linked ^^ |
| 19:14.26 | Adys | http://entertainment.upperdeck.com/ArticleImages/WoW/2007/Dark%20Portal%20Previews/WoW20070316Kibler2.jpg hahahah |
| 19:14.27 | Kirkburn|afk | It's crazy busy in here tonight. TGI Friday. |
| 19:14.32 | Hobinheim|work | {{darwin-award}} |
| 19:14.34 | Hobinheim|work | {{stupid}} |
| 19:14.36 | Hobinheim|work | {{useless}} |
| 19:14.39 | Hobinheim|work | {{jerkbag}} |
| 19:14.43 | Kirkburn|afk | arcadia, ooh, speedy |
| 19:14.45 | Adys | {{delete}}? |
| 19:14.54 | Kirkburn|afk | Hobinheim|work, {{hob-prey}} |
| 19:15.02 | Patrigan-Syldra | the card has done justice to the Overlord! |
| 19:15.10 | Tuqui-tuqui | lol Adys :D |
| 19:15.10 | Kirkburn|afk | Whereby we flag up people for you to ingest :) |
| 19:15.15 | Adys | Kirkburn|afk: anyways do you know the color equivalent :P |
| 19:15.21 | Kirkburn|afk | Of 333333? |
| 19:15.26 | Adys | yus |
| 19:15.48 | Kirkburn|afk | No, there must be a converter on the web though |
| 19:15.48 | Tuqui-tuqui | whenever im flagged iside Orgrimmar.. I just sit next to Saurfang waiting to get unflagged :D |
| 19:16.04 | Patrigan-Syldra | Kirkburn|afk |
| 19:16.04 | Adys | Meh =P |
| 19:16.07 | Kirkburn|afk | 51 51 51 |
| 19:16.07 | Patrigan-Syldra | I use photoshop for that |
| 19:16.13 | Kirkburn|afk | http://www.javascripter.net/faq/hextorgb.htm |
| 19:16.18 | Adys | http://www.endprod.com/colors/rgb2hex.htm |
| 19:16.26 | Adys | grr |
| 19:16.27 | Hobinheim|work | Kirkburn|afk, what is your opinion of shadow priests |
| 19:16.29 | Patrigan-Syldra | Adobe Photoshop, my computer >.> <.< |
| 19:16.29 | Kirkburn|afk | Haha |
| 19:16.45 | Kirkburn|afk | Hobinheim|work, they should embrace the light |
| 19:17.08 | Kirkburn|afk | Someone should tell them sunshine is good for you |
| 19:17.12 | Adys | hm you sure its 333 btw? |
| 19:17.20 | Kirkburn|afk | Pretty sure |
| 19:17.32 | Adys | when I said the background color, I meant the background where all the text is |
| 19:17.53 | Adys | and 51-51-51 gives me something extremely dark |
| 19:17.59 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Air_Elemental |
| 19:18.00 | Bagginsww | updated |
| 19:18.14 | Bagginsww | we could probably race box it too |
| 19:18.20 | Bagginsww | we have enough info now |
| 19:18.29 | Adys | nvm its me being stupid |
| 19:18.35 | Kirkburn|afk | Stoopid Adys |
| 19:19.05 | Kirkburn|afk | Yay Bagginsww |
| 19:19.23 | trik | WTB NEW WOW DEVELOPERS/DIRECTORS/CREATORS/PROGRAMMERS/ETC. |
| 19:19.23 | Bagginsww | Thanks kirburn glad you like the improvements :) |
| 19:19.35 | Hobinheim|work | goons think locks and shadow priests will be BFFs |
| 19:19.37 | Hobinheim|work | *are |
| 19:19.41 | Bagginsww | Elemental main article will look much more streamlined after this heh heh |
| 19:19.53 | Kaso | trik wtb less caps :3 |
| 19:19.55 | Kirkburn|afk | Bagginsww, cool |
| 19:20.31 | Bagginsww | and if lemonbaby can do one of his fancy multi race transparency works like he did with giant article, etc, it will match current quality of those kinds of pages, :) |
| 19:21.45 | Adys | paint is fucking shit |
| 19:21.55 | Adys | cant even copypaste png stuff in it |
| 19:22.28 | Bagginsww | ya |
| 19:22.44 | Adys | http://adys.stools.net/sebudai.jpg |
| 19:22.47 | Adys | to relax |
| 19:24.37 | Kirkburn|afk | In case people missed Pat's link earlier - http://entertainment.upperdeck.com/wow/en/news/article.aspx?aid=2251 |
| 19:25.14 | Kirkburn|afk | Adys, you're using PAINT?! |
| 19:25.14 | Adys | :) |
| 19:25.20 | Adys | for simple things yes |
| 19:25.23 | Adys | using gimp generally |
| 19:25.25 | Adys | but its slow |
| 19:25.29 | Kirkburn|afk | I hear Paint.NET is supposed to be pretty good |
| 19:25.41 | Adys | Meh |
| 19:26.25 | Kirkburn|afk | I see your Meh and raise you several Anti-mehs |
| 19:26.30 | Kirkburn|afk | >> http://www.joystiq.com/2006/10/11/the-algebra-of-wows-inspired-by-xbox-360-hd-dvd-dancers/ |
| 19:26.42 | Kirkburn|afk | Read that and understand :) |
| 19:27.00 | Kirkburn|afk | "The ANTI-MEH is considered the base unit for measuring entertainment." |
| 19:27.47 | Adys | Bagginsww: http://www.wowwiki.com/Fire_Elemental |
| 19:27.59 | *** join/#wowwiki Skyfire (n=rawsonat@c-24-21-36-57.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) |
| 19:28.06 | Adys | Im sorry I had to change the header for Fire Elemental Types btw |
| 19:28.09 | Bagginsww | shade is off on my computer for some reason |
| 19:28.14 | Adys | but else there was a line going under the image |
| 19:28.21 | Skyfire | hello hello |
| 19:28.22 | Adys | and was ugly |
| 19:28.24 | Skyfire | how are ye? |
| 19:28.25 | Adys | hey skyfire |
| 19:28.31 | Bagginsww | hmm add a "clr" |
| 19:28.50 | Skyfire | tagging things with speedydelete is annoying ;( |
| 19:29.23 | Adys | welcome to my world |
| 19:29.28 | Adys | I tagged speedy over 1500 icons |
| 19:29.32 | Adys | at least |
| 19:29.39 | Skyfire | and then they made you an admin |
| 19:29.42 | Skyfire | ;P |
| 19:29.48 | Hobinheim|work | i played vandal chaser |
| 19:29.53 | Hobinheim|work | and made a bot to clean up |
| 19:30.01 | Hobinheim|work | then someone made a really bad decision and made me admin |
| 19:30.15 | Skyfire | ohnoes |
| 19:31.31 | Skyfire | btw, adys, how did you notice Ashyen's Gift with the wierd appostrophe? |
| 19:31.42 | Adys | Uh |
| 19:31.46 | Adys | Ah |
| 19:31.57 | Adys | I think I see what you mean |
| 19:32.12 | Adys | er I notice it when theres two identical pages with a different name |
| 19:32.27 | Adys | or when one of my links doesn't link where i want |
| 19:33.11 | Kirkburn|afk | Adys, that's not the right colour bg for the Fire Elemental :/ |
| 19:33.16 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/Elemental can someone kill the pngs off the page because mediawiki sucks? |
| 19:33.19 | Hobinheim|work | Kirkburn|afk, ahem |
| 19:33.23 | Adys | Kirkburn|afk: how comes? |
| 19:33.30 | Hobinheim|work | in america, we don't like them extra yooz |
| 19:33.40 | Kirkburn|afk | Live with it :) |
| 19:33.42 | Hobinheim|work | and the only colors you need to worry about are teh RED WHITE AND BLUE |
| 19:33.45 | Hobinheim|work | AMERICA AMERICA AMERICA |
| 19:33.48 | Kirkburn|afk | Adys, it's slightly darker for some reason |
| 19:33.52 | Bagginsww | ya paint just doesn't match colors well |
| 19:33.55 | Adys | yes, its the "aura" thing |
| 19:34.00 | Adys | and i used gimp :p |
| 19:34.09 | Adys | I'll fix that in a sec |
| 19:34.10 | Kirkburn|afk | Then you failed somewhere :P |
| 19:34.11 | Hobinheim|work | no le photoshoppe? |
| 19:34.21 | Adys | No, you see the black aura he has at the bottom? |
| 19:34.24 | Hobinheim|work | the one time i used gimp i wanted to saw off my arm and become one |
| 19:34.32 | Adys | thats the problem, I cut on it a bit |
| 19:34.52 | Kirkburn|afk | Ah, now here's a thing |
| 19:35.03 | Kirkburn|afk | The content box is background: #333; |
| 19:35.10 | Kirkburn|afk | 333 may actually be 303030 |
| 19:35.17 | Kirkburn|afk | No wait, that can't be right |
| 19:35.28 | Adys | uhm |
| 19:36.11 | Adys | Look Im gonna upload a new one in a sec |
| 19:36.15 | Bagginsww | adys I'm adding {{clr}} during the editing to avoid any lines going through anything issues. |
| 19:36.22 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Earth_Elemental |
| 19:36.22 | Kirkburn|afk | argharghargh |
| 19:36.25 | Bagginsww | earth elemental |
| 19:36.32 | Skyfire | ok who broke the wiki |
| 19:36.36 | Bagginsww | I'll probably race boxing these anyways |
| 19:36.37 | Adys | ill check that in a sec |
| 19:37.56 | arcadia | whoot |
| 19:37.58 | arcadia | 27% |
| 19:38.04 | Kirkburn|afk | Phew "The digit "3" is equivalent to the hexadecimal numeral "33"" |
| 19:38.06 | Hobinheim|work | yay snowday |
| 19:38.13 | arcadia | i have stuff i need to do, but thanks to those who helped |
| 19:38.16 | arcadia | later |
| 19:38.17 | Hobinheim|work | the new york area is having a little tiff with the weather |
| 19:38.21 | Hobinheim|work | so i'm off to go to the gym |
| 19:38.22 | Hobinheim|work | later all |
| 19:38.27 | Hobinheim|work | have a nice weekend |
| 19:38.28 | Kirkburn|afk | 333 is 333333 |
| 19:38.31 | Kirkburn|afk | See ya Hob |
| 19:38.33 | Kirkburn|afk | And you! |
| 19:38.49 | Hobinheim|work | 333 is a the half-demon's number!!! |
| 19:38.56 | Hobinheim|work | inuyasha will eat you!!! |
| 19:39.12 | Kirkburn|afk | Or Yehushua |
| 19:39.27 | Hobinheim|work | ? |
| 19:39.35 | Hobinheim|work | what's yehushua? |
| 19:39.55 | Kirkburn|afk | Yahushua, I mean |
| 19:39.56 | Hobinheim|work | even google doesn't know |
| 19:40.02 | Kirkburn|afk | Roughly translated as Jesus |
| 19:40.10 | Hobinheim|work | joshua |
| 19:40.17 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Fire_Elemental&action=purge |
| 19:40.19 | Kirkburn|afk | http://www.eliyah.com/nameson.htm |
| 19:40.21 | Adys | meh this is shit now :/ |
| 19:40.29 | Kirkburn|afk | Shocking! |
| 19:40.57 | Kirkburn|afk | *profusely |
| 19:41.14 | Kaso | Theres no easy wowiki magic way of finding pages that link to template A and template B is there? |
| 19:41.18 | Kirkburn|afk | Aaaah, pizza! |
| 19:41.25 | Kirkburn|afk | Kaso, yes |
| 19:41.28 | Kaso | howhow |
| 19:41.35 | Kirkburn|afk | Open page, bottom left, "What Links Here" |
| 19:41.58 | Skyfire | woohooooooooooo |
| 19:42.02 | Kaso | i wanted pages that link to Template A AND template B |
| 19:42.02 | Skyfire | hola kaso! |
| 19:42.06 | Skyfire | and? |
| 19:42.19 | Bagginsww | ok water elemental will be a bit more work LOL need to merge in warcracrft 1 and 3 pages into the main page. no reason to disambig them if we are going primary lore, followed by WoW. |
| 19:42.24 | Kaso | eg pages that have{{ tooltipcss}} and {{effect}} |
| 19:42.37 | Kirkburn|afk | Kaso, ah sorry |
| 19:42.46 | Kirkburn|afk | Pizza was calling |
| 19:42.49 | Kaso | np |
| 19:42.51 | Kirkburn|afk | Messing with my brain is it |
| 19:42.54 | Kaso | I'll have to download lists of both and compare |
| 19:42.56 | Kirkburn|afk | MMMmmmmmmm |
| 19:43.16 | Kaso | also hi Skyfire. |
| 19:43.17 | *** join/#wowwiki amro (n=amro@82.101.184.187) |
| 19:45.16 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/Fire_Elemental |
| 19:45.18 | Adys | hows that? |
| 19:45.42 | Adys | by the way baggins |
| 19:45.57 | Adys | these pages should be moved to [[Fire elemental]], [[Earth elemental]] and so on |
| 19:46.09 | Adys | and the caps'd E should be a redirect |
| 19:46.17 | Kirkburn|afk | Still darker :( |
| 19:46.37 | Adys | Not for me oO |
| 19:46.58 | Bagginsww | well its a matter of different video cards have slightly different color systems |
| 19:47.21 | Bagginsww | its the reason I don't bother with trying to change backgrounds myself LOL |
| 19:48.30 | Adys | http://adys.stools.net/temp/darker.jpg ? |
| 19:48.41 | Adys | sry for the quality I use paint for these things |
| 19:49.04 | Kirkburn|afk | lol |
| 19:49.23 | Adys | thats not darker is it btw :P |
| 19:49.31 | Kirkburn|afk | Checking FF |
| 19:49.48 | Kirkburn|afk | FIne in FF, bad in IE |
| 19:49.59 | Adys | lol |
| 19:50.01 | Adys | ie7? |
| 19:50.13 | Kirkburn|afk | I think Mikk made a tutorial for GIMP on the wiki |
| 19:51.39 | Adys | lol, oh my god. |
| 19:51.54 | Adys | thats indeed darker |
| 19:52.15 | Kirkburn|afk | http://www.wowwiki.com/GIMP |
| 19:55.59 | Kaso | Gah! why does {{effect}} have to complicate my life so |
| 19:56.02 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Krakken.png :/ |
| 19:56.09 | Adys | Kaso blame me more please |
| 19:56.20 | Adys | gonna convert them to jpg tbh |
| 19:56.33 | Adys | anyways I'm off for now ill be back later |
| 19:58.24 | Kaso | my current plans are either A) lose the effect link info in the conversion to{{ tooltip}} (not good) B) write a ton of extra code ( :< ) or C) Ignore the 439 pages that have {[effect}} in a tooltipcss tooltip |
| 19:59.28 | Kaso | Im not really liking any of these solutions |
| 19:59.46 | Kaso | but C is looking mighty tempting right now |
| 19:59.50 | Skyfire | have fun! ;P |
| 19:59.58 | Skyfire | how about... |
| 20:00.17 | Skyfire | take the number from effect, and just leave it on the item page |
| 20:00.26 | Skyfire | in the tooltip box in attributes, if you have to |
| 20:01.02 | Kaso | but then that means 439 pages need to be manually fixed |
| 20:01.25 | Skyfire | yeah... or we could leave the info out completely |
| 20:01.30 | Skyfire | ;p |
| 20:01.35 | Skyfire | or you can write your extra code |
| 20:02.20 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Water_Elemental#Use_of_Water_Elementals_by_Arcane_Casters |
| 20:02.23 | Bagginsww | oops |
| 20:02.34 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Water_Elemental |
| 20:03.39 | Bagginsww | kraken? |
| 20:03.51 | Bagginsww | iwhat's the graphic from? |
| 20:04.37 | Bagginsww | ohh serpantshrine |
| 20:04.43 | Bagginsww | Don't think I've fought one of those yet |
| 20:05.26 | Bagginsww | I think kraken are described to be more squid like |
| 20:05.48 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/The_Lurker_Below |
| 20:05.51 | Bagginsww | someone replace that picture :p |
| 20:07.47 | Bagginsww | adys can you rename that image [[Lurkerbelow]]? unless its said to be krakken in the file? |
| 20:08.43 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Lurker_below |
| 20:13.56 | Kaso | the {{tooltip}} system of having |effect= and |elink= doesnt allow for more than one linked spell per item |
| 20:14.50 | Kirkburn|afk | Adys, make them PNGs, but /working/ PNGs, pwease =) |
| 20:15.08 | Kirkburn|afk | Pwetty pwease with choccy bits on top |
| 20:15.45 | Kirkburn|afk | Kaso, can't you repear arguments? |
| 20:15.47 | Kirkburn|afk | *repeat |
| 20:15.59 | Kaso | nope, only the last pair get shown |
| 20:16.03 | Kirkburn|afk | :( |
| 20:16.20 | Kaso | the only way i see is to do |
| 20:16.21 | Kaso | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:16.21 | Kaso | Equip: {{spelllink|17670}} |
| 20:16.37 | Kaso | but that goes against what the template tells you to do |
| 20:16.50 | Skyfire | it works tho :X |
| 20:16.53 | *** join/#wowwiki bleetah (n=Bleeter@guifications/developer/bleeter) |
| 20:16.55 | Skyfire | try it out |
| 20:17.02 | Kaso | What works? |
| 20:17.07 | Kirkburn|afk | Bagginsww, do you realise how absurd it is to have the descrip of The Lurker Below as "Some believe to be a Kraken or perhaps a lurker below" |
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| 20:17.16 | Skyfire | using spelllink in the |effect line rather than |elink |
| 20:17.31 | Bagginsww | kirkburn I agree fill free to rewrite it |
| 20:17.34 | Bagginsww | or move it ect |
| 20:17.42 | Bagginsww | actuall I'll just remove it :p |
| 20:17.50 | Kaso | it works, but i'd rather settle on some "correct" way of doing it before i go making several hundred versions of it Sky |
| 20:17.57 | Kirkburn|afk | Wait, wait |
| 20:18.00 | Skyfire | hehe |
| 20:18.30 | Kirkburn|afk | Bagginsww, I think leave them both for now, see if any more info is forthcoming :P |
| 20:18.31 | Bagginsww | I just put it as "A creature of an unknown type" |
| 20:19.03 | Kirkburn|afk | Ooh, I think it was better before, makes people smile ^^ |
| 20:19.36 | Kirkburn|afk | Hmm |
| 20:19.39 | Bagginsww | lol |
| 20:19.46 | Kirkburn|afk | How does one link to the RPG article without it looking stupid |
| 20:20.30 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Krakken.png |
| 20:20.38 | Bagginsww | marked it for speedydelete |
| 20:20.51 | Kirkburn|afk | Why??! |
| 20:20.58 | Kirkburn|afk | Oh, the name |
| 20:20.59 | Bagginsww | I renamed it "lurkerbelow |
| 20:21.06 | Bagginsww | as that's the only example of one we have |
| 20:21.18 | Kirkburn|afk | Gone |
| 20:21.48 | Bagginsww | The creature is of an unknown type, perhaps a [[lurker below]]. |
| 20:21.52 | Bagginsww | how about that? |
| 20:22.22 | Adys|afk | thats like saying "We believe Young Wolves are apparented to Wolves" |
| 20:22.27 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 20:22.33 | Bagginsww | ok so we toss it into a category ;) |
| 20:22.42 | Bagginsww | category:Lurker below |
| 20:22.52 | Adys|afk | Why not Category:Krakken? |
| 20:22.58 | Bagginsww | is it a krakken? |
| 20:23.02 | Adys|afk | it surely is |
| 20:23.04 | Bagginsww | can some confirm the file name |
| 20:23.08 | Adys|afk | Yep I can |
| 20:23.15 | Adys|afk | looked it up yesterday |
| 20:23.16 | Bagginsww | ok so file name is kraken? |
| 20:23.20 | Bagginsww | or Krakken? |
| 20:23.22 | Kirkburn|afk | Updated intro |
| 20:23.26 | Adys|afk | that I need to check again |
| 20:23.34 | Bagginsww | that's the only issue we have |
| 20:23.42 | Adys|afk | checking then brb |
| 20:23.52 | Kirkburn|afk | File names mean little |
| 20:23.54 | Adys|afk | Krakken |
| 20:23.54 | Bagginsww | a "kraken" was described as being more of a giant squid like creature in S&L |
| 20:23.56 | Kirkburn|afk | Lobstrok ftw |
| 20:23.58 | Bagginsww | maybe there are different species :p |
| 20:24.10 | Bagginsww | ya kirkburn not all file names mean anything heh he |
| 20:24.17 | Skyfire | thats a lot of evolution for "different species" |
| 20:24.18 | Bagginsww | or we'd have Tigran race |
| 20:24.22 | Bagginsww | Tigon |
| 20:24.28 | Bagginsww | what was it? |
| 20:24.50 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Tigon |
| 20:24.54 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 20:25.05 | Adys|afk | http://adys.stools.net/temp/krakken.jpg |
| 20:25.15 | Kirkburn|afk | I think Kraken and Lurker Belows are quite likely supposed to be closely related things |
| 20:25.33 | Kirkburn|afk | If we do come across a bona-fide Kraken it'll probably use that model |
| 20:25.34 | Bagginsww | also we have timberlings, tarbeasts, etc, being split into seperate species although they share the same file name ;) |
| 20:25.39 | Adys|afk | how can one name "Lurker Below" a race? |
| 20:26.23 | Kirkburn|afk | MoM did ^^ |
| 20:26.23 | Bagginsww | Its a d&d monster |
| 20:26.23 | Adys|afk | if something is called "The Lurker Below" |
| 20:26.23 | Adys|afk | oh |
| 20:26.23 | Adys|afk | I suck then |
| 20:26.24 | Bagginsww | kind of like Beholder |
| 20:26.24 | Kirkburn|afk | "The Bear" |
| 20:26.24 | Adys|afk | ugh |
| 20:26.24 | Bagginsww | the term has d&D history :p |
| 20:26.29 | Kirkburn|afk | Adys, I know :/ |
| 20:26.37 | Adys|afk | The Last Guardian, is Last Guardian a race too? |
| 20:26.44 | Adys|afk | (+1 points to lore if you find the answer) |
| 20:26.45 | Bagginsww | uh class |
| 20:26.52 | Bagginsww | Guardia nis a class, ;) |
| 20:26.58 | Adys|afk | Im just kidding baggins :P |
| 20:27.05 | Bagginsww | heh heh |
| 20:27.18 | Kirkburn|afk | Well Magna Aegwynn was pretty god-like |
| 20:27.37 | Kirkburn|afk | Satyr, that's a hybrid'ish thing |
| 20:27.45 | Bagginsww | heh |
| 20:27.50 | Bagginsww | lich is a class/creature too |
| 20:27.57 | Kirkburn|afk | Plus he did say he was "something more" now |
| 20:28.23 | Bagginsww | well ya kirkburn the Guardian "template" is a class/creature kind of thing |
| 20:28.34 | Bagginsww | you can apply it to other races |
| 20:28.40 | Bagginsww | as far as gameplay mechanics |
| 20:29.06 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Guardian |
| 20:29.40 | Adys|afk | http://www.wowwiki.com/The_Lurker_Below why a datamined picture for the boss page? |
| 20:30.01 | Adys|afk | this one should go to Krakken, no? |
| 20:30.03 | Bagginsww | uh well we use transparency pictures for lots of pages |
| 20:30.21 | Bagginsww | I removed it from krakken as there was no citation of file name |
| 20:30.27 | Kirkburn|afk | Warlocks! They're not really human/orc/gnome/whatever, they're evil soulless bastards who should join the blood elves in the depths of hades! Along with the Forsaken. Cause they're not Pure Horde(TM) either. |
| 20:30.36 | Bagginsww | lol |
| 20:30.46 | Adys|afk | baggins: http://adys.stools.net/temp/krakken.jpg |
| 20:30.50 | Kirkburn|afk | Plus Blizzard hate me and my incomprehensible arguements |
| 20:31.09 | Bagginsww | but ya the former picture in the article was horrible |
| 20:31.19 | Bagginsww | we don't want pictures that show menus |
| 20:31.31 | Adys|afk | hm it's better than nothing imo but fair enoug |
| 20:31.35 | Adys|afk | +h |
| 20:32.03 | Kirkburn|afk | Crappy UI image < Funky PNG < Hi quality in-game shot |
| 20:32.17 | Adys|afk | true |
| 20:32.26 | Bagginsww | ya |
| 20:32.31 | Kirkburn|afk | 'cept for races, cause funky PNGs do look cool there |
| 20:32.36 | Bagginsww | ya |
| 20:32.38 | Adys|afk | k btw |
| 20:32.51 | Adys|afk | should we change the pngs to jpgs? |
| 20:32.54 | Adys|afk | so they look decent on IE |
| 20:33.05 | Adys|afk | I started a category, too |
| 20:33.11 | Bagginsww | heh |
| 20:33.13 | Kirkburn|afk | Kaso, looks fun |
| 20:33.16 | Adys|afk | http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:Adapted_Game_Screenshots |
| 20:33.25 | Kirkburn|afk | Adys, no, most of the PNGs are fine on IE |
| 20:33.31 | Kaso | and suggestions/ideas? |
| 20:33.33 | Kirkburn|afk | It's just the ones you made! |
| 20:33.57 | Adys|afk | the transparent ones are |
| 20:34.08 | Adys|afk | Krakken.png was not fine |
| 20:34.23 | Kirkburn|afk | Wait, why aren't you making the PNGs transparent? |
| 20:34.34 | Adys|afk | cos I have no idea how the fuck to do that :p |
| 20:34.38 | Kirkburn|afk | Aiee |
| 20:34.41 | Adys|afk | haha |
| 20:34.42 | Adys|afk | sorry |
| 20:34.53 | Kirkburn|afk | Make them transparent fer goodness sake |
| 20:35.04 | Kirkburn|afk | http://www.wowwiki.com/GIMP |
| 20:35.08 | Kirkburn|afk | I linked it earlier, nub :P |
| 20:35.22 | Adys|afk | that tells how to make them have a background color of #333333 |
| 20:35.27 | Kirkburn|afk | True, true |
| 20:35.28 | Kirkburn|afk | Um |
| 20:35.31 | Adys|afk | haha |
| 20:35.43 | Kirkburn|afk | Read up on how the GIMP works then :) |
| 20:35.48 | Adys|afk | Meh |
| 20:35.56 | Adys|afk | i think I actually know how to do it |
| 20:36.02 | Adys|afk | at least i did it once |
| 20:36.10 | Adys|afk | Ill try again, brb |
| 20:37.58 | Adys|afk | mmh |
| 20:38.38 | Adys|afk | gotcha |
| 20:39.55 | Kirkburn|afk | Off again |
| 20:39.59 | Adys|afk | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Image:FireElemental.png&action=purge |
| 20:40.02 | Adys|afk | tell me hows that |
| 20:40.05 | Kirkburn|afk | Might be back in a little while. If not, I'm sleep :P |
| 20:40.14 | Kirkburn|afk | ...ing |
| 20:40.23 | Kirkburn|afk | Perfect! |
| 20:40.28 | Adys|afk | kool |
| 20:40.45 | Adys|afk | Ill take care of the ones still there then, and gn :p |
| 20:43.15 | Bagginsww | color looks fine to me |
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| 20:51.15 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Elemental_Conglomerate move that to lowercase version? |
| 20:51.18 | Bagginsww | please |
| 20:55.59 | *** join/#wowwiki Shirik (i=nospam@rrcs-67-78-171-230.se.biz.rr.com) |
| 21:04.24 | Kaso | does anyone know of anywhere with a big list of all the html encoded charaters |
| 21:04.37 | Kaso | like < == < > == > |
| 21:06.30 | *** join/#wowwiki Skyfire (n=rawsonat@c-24-21-36-57.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) |
| 21:06.45 | Skyfire | kaso |
| 21:06.47 | Kaso | yah |
| 21:07.07 | Skyfire | it should be (wait for it to finish) |
| 21:07.11 | Skyfire | |effect= |
| 21:07.33 | Skyfire | |elink=Use: {{Spelllink|id}}<br>Equip: {{Spelllink|id}} |
| 21:07.35 | Skyfire | that works |
| 21:07.50 | Shirik | Kaso: http://www.astro.washington.edu/owen/ROFM_CGI/Documentation/SpecialChars.html |
| 21:07.59 | Kaso | thanks Shirik |
| 21:08.01 | Shirik | It might be a bit more than you're looking for though |
| 21:08.40 | Kaso | i think i'll just have to worry about the enitiy ones so ill just allow for those i think |
| 21:08.49 | Shirik | yeah the entity ones are the important parts |
| 21:09.06 | Kaso | Skyfire whats the point of using elink at all if thats the case, the exact same string works just as well put onto the effect tag |
| 21:09.25 | Skyfire | i know |
| 21:09.35 | Skyfire | so wats the issue? |
| 21:09.47 | Skyfire | http://www.wowwiki.com/Template_talk:Tooltip#Multiple_.7B.7Bspelllink.7D.7D |
| 21:09.54 | Kaso | The issue is that the template text tells us to do something which is silly |
| 21:09.59 | Kaso | we should change what the user is told to do |
| 21:10.23 | Skyfire | oi |
| 21:10.26 | Kaso | the tooltip says to do this |
| 21:10.26 | Kaso | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:10.27 | Kaso | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:10.35 | Skyfire | no |
| 21:10.51 | Skyfire | it says to leave effect blank |
| 21:10.53 | Kaso | but you cant do that for multiple, so i suggest |effect=Use: {{spelllink|22641}} that'll work for single and multiple |
| 21:11.06 | Shirik | Kaso, alternatively if you have a PHP interpreter, you should be able to do $trans = get_html_translation_table(HTML_ENTITIES); print_r($trans); to get a direct, complete list, btw |
| 21:11.27 | Kaso | Skyfire, |
| 21:11.27 | Kaso | When using {{effect2}} for effect please specify effect as the effect type (eg.effect=Use:), and use elink= instead. |
| 21:12.07 | Kaso | Shirik unfortunatly i dont have that luxury, i think the setup i have now will be sufficient for what i come across on wowwiki |
| 21:12.13 | Shirik | ok good :) |
| 21:12.39 | Skyfire | huh |
| 21:12.45 | Skyfire | ive nvr done that |
| 21:12.50 | Kaso | thats what it says to do |
| 21:12.53 | Kaso | which is silly :> |
| 21:15.04 | Kaso | as far as i can see the elink= tag is superflous, but ofc we have to keep it for past times its been used |
| 21:15.43 | Skyfire | what i wouldnt give to have zeal explain :x |
| 21:15.58 | Kaso | yah it would be useful |
| 21:16.00 | Kaso | but alas |
| 21:27.08 | Gryphen | oooh |
| 21:27.08 | Gryphen | google talk on home page |
| 21:28.11 | Skyfire | huh? |
| 21:29.37 | Gryphen | http://tinyurl.com/2z3ed6 |
| 21:32.04 | Skyfire | er... gryphe |
| 21:32.20 | Skyfire | gryphen * |
| 21:32.29 | Gryphen | er |
| 21:32.51 | Skyfire | what order do we want elinks-faction to be in? someone's decided to add ampwow to the list above thott... :x |
| 21:33.16 | Gryphen | shouldnt be added without discussion |
| 21:33.52 | Gryphen | has ampwow been on there? |
| 21:34.13 | Skyfire | its not ampwow that added it |
| 21:34.49 | Kaso | the ampwow link isnt even specific to that faction |
| 21:34.54 | Kaso | its just a general faction link |
| 21:35.03 | Skyfire | yes |
| 21:35.07 | Kaso | remove it and leave a message on the guy's page saying to start a discussion about it |
| 21:35.11 | Skyfire | that's what it looks like tome |
| 21:35.27 | Skyfire | oh thanks for leaving me that responsibility |
| 21:35.32 | Kaso | you spotted it |
| 21:35.41 | Kaso | you see it you deal with it! |
| 21:35.50 | Skyfire | pft |
| 21:36.37 | Skyfire | i would have |
| 21:36.45 | Skyfire | gryph just protected it ;o |
| 21:37.00 | Kaso | ha |
| 21:37.02 | Kaso | fair enough <3 |
| 21:38.10 | Skyfire | time to go back to editing transcludable pages with speedydeetes... |
| 21:38.13 | Skyfire | ;( |
| 21:43.11 | Skyfire | oh, here's somethng sad |
| 21:43.31 | Skyfire | an item, sold in unlimited quantity, sells from a vendor for 2g. buyout price on the AH? 6g |
| 21:45.22 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Elemental#Bog_Beast updated |
| 21:45.37 | Bagginsww | erm http://www.wowwiki.com/Elemental |
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| 22:04.32 | Skyfire | hmm |
| 22:05.08 | Skyfire | whats the wiki code for writing something in grey text? |
| 22:06.34 | bleetah | Bagginsww: if you manage to find a 'great dark' quote from an original Blizz source (game, book etc.) that's very good, I'll put it up on http://www.greatdarkplanet.org near the logo. I need one, and would thank you endlessly if you managed to find one ;) |
| 22:07.04 | Bagginsww | hmm, probably best great dark quotes originate from warcraft manuals, S&L, and warcraft encyclopedia |
| 22:07.17 | Bagginsww | encyclopedia is on world of warcraft site |
| 22:07.30 | bleetah | hmm, thanks for the tip, I'll have a poke around again |
| 22:08.51 | Bagginsww | I'll get you the S&L information later |
| 22:09.04 | Bagginsww | too busy categorizing elementals right now LOL |
| 22:09.28 | Skyfire | ah man, think i need an admin to do some touching up to tooltip... :x |
| 22:10.40 | Bagginsww | also bleetah the warcraft one manual is online I think |
| 22:10.45 | Bagginsww | so you might look for quotes there |
| 22:10.54 | Bagginsww | not sure about warcraft II manual |
| 22:10.56 | Skyfire | adys or tekkub or gryphen |
| 22:10.59 | Skyfire | ;( |
| 22:11.03 | Adys | dingdingding |
| 22:11.22 | Skyfire | ... |
| 22:11.39 | Bagginsww | suppose I should work on Entropic Beast now :p |
| 22:13.01 | Skyfire | adys |
| 22:13.22 | Adys | guild drama, later pls |
| 22:13.27 | Skyfire | lol |
| 22:13.28 | Skyfire | k |
| 22:13.32 | bleetah | doesn't work in my browser.. sigh |
| 22:13.41 | Skyfire | lern2firefox |
| 22:13.46 | Adys | I just realized thats the best excuse ever lmao |
| 22:13.55 | Adys | anyways in a bit please :PO |
| 22:13.57 | Skyfire | xS |
| 22:14.42 | bleetah | learn to read client UA strings "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.0.10) Gecko/20070313 Fedora/1.5.0.10-5.fc6 Firefox/1.5.0.10" |
| 22:15.34 | Skyfire | when you could be using 2.0... |
| 22:15.37 | bleetah | FF2 is a marketing tool.. there's not that* much difference, and those differences are easily backportable |
| 22:15.46 | Shirik | it's true |
| 22:15.58 | bleetah | FF3 will be a genuine difference, new gecko engine and all |
| 22:16.01 | Skyfire | >.> |
| 22:16.05 | Skyfire | <.< |
| 22:16.14 | Skyfire | +_+ |
| 22:17.02 | Skyfire | gryphen |
| 22:17.08 | Skyfire | im going to bother you now |
| 22:17.39 | Gryphen | ok |
| 22:17.43 | bleetah | man, 36 JS/CSS/HTML/XML errors on the encylopedia page... I really can't be bothered. |
| 22:18.04 | Skyfire | somewhere, someone decided that we don't need {{elinks}} |
| 22:18.13 | Skyfire | :O |
| 22:18.13 | Gryphen | ok |
| 22:18.25 | Gryphen | well elink-item at least :) |
| 22:18.28 | Gryphen | +s |
| 22:18.31 | Skyfire | just ==External Links== and {{elinks-item}} |
| 22:18.59 | Gryphen | the only real benefit of elinks is you can change the heading if you want across all of them |
| 22:19.11 | Skyfire | true |
| 22:21.08 | Skyfire | ok, how is http://www.wowwiki.com/First_Legion npov? i know its in violation of the policy because it's missing a few key items, but how could you say its got a pov? |
| 22:22.24 | Shirik | "a dominant force" perhaps? |
| 22:22.32 | Shirik | and "at the forefront" |
| 22:22.39 | Shirik | whether or not it's true, it sounds more like a marketing thing to me |
| 22:22.58 | Skyfire | but that's what guild pages are :/ |
| 22:23.48 | Skyfire | that's why we have the {{guild}} tag |
| 22:25.03 | Skyfire | bagginsww |
| 22:25.05 | Shirik | Guild policy: "Biased information - The content on a Wiki is meant to be informative, this includes guild pages. Guild pages, like all other, should be written from a neutral point of view and must follow the Neutral Point of View Policy." |
| 22:25.06 | Gryphen | hmm, its a guild page |
| 22:25.15 | Bagginsww | hmm? |
| 22:25.29 | Skyfire | hmm |
| 22:25.34 | Gryphen | hmm |
| 22:25.35 | Shirik | that's from http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Policy/Writing/Guild_pages |
| 22:25.45 | Gryphen | think that is a dumb policy on a guild article heh |
| 22:25.56 | Skyfire | anyway, baggins, have a look at http://www.wowwiki.com/Sythegore_Arm and tell me where that info came from :x |
| 22:26.22 | Shirik | I don't entirely -- I don't think the pages would be entirely useful if all they had is something along the lines of "xxx is the best" on every page |
| 22:26.27 | Bagginsww | which part? |
| 22:26.44 | Skyfire | forefront =! best |
| 22:26.47 | Skyfire | the whole thing baggins |
| 22:26.51 | Skyfire | some of its from wcii man |
| 22:27.00 | Skyfire | but when did they get the name for that "arm" |
| 22:27.06 | Bagginsww | well ya most of it should be from wacraft II |
| 22:27.11 | Shirik | Let's look at it this way: A guild could post their accomplishments, etc., and thus promote their guild that way. I'd find that OK. But, if all they're saying is "at the forefront" I find that to be more of a fallacy than anything |
| 22:27.20 | Shirik | A lack of information, really |
| 22:27.22 | Bagginsww | unless they made up stuff |
| 22:27.27 | Skyfire | they didn't |
| 22:27.42 | Skyfire | i recognize all the information |
| 22:27.44 | Gryphen | i dont think it really matters personally, it is a guild page, should be their domain |
| 22:27.49 | Skyfire | but where did that name come from? |
| 22:27.54 | Gryphen | just like others fan fics |
| 22:28.01 | Bagginsww | manual |
| 22:28.10 | Skyfire | srsly? |
| 22:28.15 | Skyfire | nowai |
| 22:28.29 | Bagginsww | sythegore arm is mentioned in the manual |
| 22:28.33 | Bagginsww | isn't much to it though :p |
| 22:28.34 | Skyfire | wc2? |
| 22:28.37 | Bagginsww | ya |
| 22:28.41 | Skyfire | .... |
| 22:28.51 | Skyfire | im going to go find this purported mentioning... |
| 22:28.57 | Skyfire | we have the lore floating around on here |
| 22:29.02 | Bagginsww | it wasn't really a clan as much as military contingent |
| 22:29.16 | Bagginsww | at least my interpretation |
| 22:29.41 | Skyfire | Although his suspicions of me were never fully assuaged, I did succeed in convincing the War Chief that the Raiders were preparing to unite with the sons of Blackhand in a revolt against him. Although this claim was untrue, Orgrim was already suspicious of Rend and Maim and so disbanded the multitude of Wolfriders, sending them into the various arms of the Grunt forces. To demonstrate my loyalty to Orgrim and the Horde, I promised t |
| 22:30.38 | Bagginsww | pulling out my pdf |
| 22:30.38 | Skyfire | that's the only mention, and theres no name in there |
| 22:30.38 | Skyfire | http://www.wowwiki.com/The_History_of_Orcish_Ascension :] |
| 22:31.05 | Skyfire | so then, where is that name from?! |
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| 22:31.23 | Bagginsww | I know I read it int he manuals |
| 22:31.45 | Skyfire | its not the 2nd then |
| 22:31.46 | Bagginsww | as soon as I find the quote I'll put up the citation |
| 22:32.12 | Skyfire | the first, maybe. but i dont think so, since there was only one clan involved then, the blackrock |
| 22:33.35 | Bagginsww | actually the manual for the first one mentioned several terms |
| 22:33.39 | Bagginsww | "Warlock Clan" |
| 22:33.45 | Bagginsww | "Necrolyte Clan" |
| 22:33.50 | Bagginsww | among other things |
| 22:34.26 | Skyfire | ugh, but that wasn't in the lore. only in the unit descrips, iirc |
| 22:34.36 | Skyfire | hmm |
| 22:34.38 | Bagginsww | unit dsicrips were written as lore |
| 22:34.41 | Skyfire | true |
| 22:34.45 | Skyfire | maybe it is in the first |
| 22:34.51 | Skyfire | ill go see if i can find it >:) |
| 22:35.09 | Bagginsww | wish I had a pdf of the first manual :p |
| 22:35.16 | Bagginsww | only have paper version |
| 22:36.38 | Skyfire | i have the paper versions, i just don't know where >_< |
| 22:39.40 | Skyfire | its driving me nuts |
| 22:39.54 | Bagginsww | warcraft II novel page 63 |
| 22:39.56 | Bagginsww | found it |
| 22:40.17 | Bagginsww | Blackhand, chieftain of the young Blackrock clan and a Raider in the Sythegore Arm, was well honored |
| 22:40.17 | Bagginsww | by most Orcs within the Horde. More importantly, he was extremely lustful, and this made him easily |
| 22:40.17 | Bagginsww | corruptible. With help from the Shadow Council, I set the eager Blackhand upon the horned throne of |
| 22:40.17 | Bagginsww | the War Chief. To his credit, Blackhand was a ruthless dictator who inspired awe and terror from his |
| 22:40.17 | Bagginsww | warriors. While the Horde rallied under Blackhand and the other chieftains acquiesced control to him, |
| 22:40.18 | Bagginsww | it was I who dictated policy by blackmailing and bribing Blackhand. |
| 22:40.20 | Bagginsww | sorry everyone |
| 22:40.28 | Bagginsww | I forget the manual isn't ofrmatted right :p |
| 22:41.13 | Skyfire | lawl |
| 22:41.17 | Skyfire | hmm |
| 22:41.33 | Skyfire | but that makes it sound like there were multiple arms |
| 22:41.44 | Bagginsww | I think so, I think it was a contigent |
| 22:41.45 | Bagginsww | not a clan |
| 22:42.36 | Bagginsww | like the big red one, or the 101st |
| 22:42.40 | Skyfire | yah |
| 22:42.58 | bleetah | Bagginsww: I think I might hijack a line from the encyclopedia. "Drawing its energies from the infinite Great Dark beyond the world: an aggregation of Warcraft RSS Feeds". How's that sound to you? |
| 22:43.01 | Skyfire | remind me to try ctrl f-ing the actual title next time :/ |
| 22:43.02 | Bagginsww | and if you like to push that interpretation be my guest :) |
| 22:43.12 | Bagginsww | pretty cool |
| 22:43.25 | bleetah | sweet, thx mate :) |
| 22:44.12 | Bagginsww | np |
| 22:45.30 | bleetah | now I just gotta reconstruc my local mirror after upgrading my server, so I can then tool about with getting the layout right.. argh never rains but pours |
| 22:46.02 | Bagginsww | lol |
| 22:47.14 | bleetah | screwit, coffee first |
| 22:53.27 | Bagginsww | so ya fire elemental is corrupted |
| 22:53.49 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Fire_Elemental |
| 22:53.53 | Bagginsww | picture I mean |
| 22:56.49 | Shirik | that's interesting |
| 22:56.59 | Shirik | it works on one page but not the other? |
| 23:01.34 | Kaso | haha |
| 23:11.12 | Bagginsww | it doesn't work with a wowbox for some reason |
| 23:13.41 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Entropic_beast |
| 23:13.47 | Bagginsww | anmyone want to get a screenshot for that? |
| 23:18.11 | Kaso | Cant you just fiddle with the hue on a normal fire elemental a bit :> |
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| 23:30.35 | Bagginsww | well that's one way kaso, or someone could just head to Felwood ;p |
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| 23:43.31 | Skosiris | aight Adys |
| 23:43.54 | Adys | dingdingding |
| 23:44.08 | Skosiris | I'm starting replying to a bunch of emails |
| 23:44.14 | Adys | woo :P |
| 23:44.18 | Adys | have fun, heheh |
| 23:44.20 | Skosiris | 300 are awaiting a reply =/ |
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| 23:45.05 | Skosiris | I wish we had a secretary for this slave work |
| 23:45.13 | Adys | Me! |
| 23:45.14 | Adys | :P |
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