| 00:01.08 | Zeal | IE always had a nice method for handling overflow of new lines when using the correct width (not min-width) |
| 00:01.52 | Zeal | i'll leave it at that now.. heh. |
| 00:02.58 | Zeal | oh one more things. the states, IE handles those differently (even more so now it's actually using CCS2.1) target, hover, visited, focus etc. |
| 00:03.37 | Zeal | FF's use of them is rather annoying, and the w3c standard isn't fully clear. |
| 00:04.02 | Zeal | hopefully they take on IE's with more clarifcation, with a few minor changes. |
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| 01:26.28 | Zeal | god i hate bible bashers.. |
| 01:27.01 | Zeal | when's adys back? missing him already :( |
| 01:29.15 | Zeal | oh shit, missing oscars aren't i.. |
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| 01:33.38 | Zeal | stuck in a revolving door? :p |
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| 02:22.04 | Kirkburn|afk | Boo! |
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| 02:28.40 | Kirkburn|afk | Ach, I hate it when I can hear beeping right on the edge on my hearing |
| 02:37.45 | bleetah | ^G^G^G^G^G^G^G |
| 02:46.00 | Kirkburn|afk | My phone has essentially died :/ |
| 02:46.16 | bleetah | what happened? tried hooking it up to Vista, eh? |
| 02:46.24 | bleetah | :-P |
| 02:47.03 | Kirkburn|afk | No, tried to install an app from the BBC, seemed fine, but now it doesn't start up properly |
| 02:47.09 | Kirkburn|afk | I can receive calls, and that's it |
| 02:47.57 | Kirkburn|afk | Why now? :( |
| 02:49.10 | bleetah | the beeb has bugged your phone! must be MI6! |
| 02:49.24 | bleetah | or just Cherie after some hawt fone chat |
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| 02:53.14 | Hobinheim|work | anybody on. i need some adddddvice |
| 02:53.58 | Kirkburn|afk | I am |
| 02:53.58 | Fin | Hobinheim|work: it's OK, just tell your folks, your sexuality is your right, you have to make them understand that |
| 02:54.09 | Kirkburn|afk | I need help - I need to send a text message! |
| 02:54.18 | Kirkburn|afk | Can anyoen suggest a website? |
| 02:54.19 | Hobinheim|work | you press "create text" |
| 02:54.22 | Fin | I'll send it for you! |
| 02:54.22 | Hobinheim|work | oh |
| 02:54.24 | Hobinheim|work | a website? |
| 02:54.26 | Kirkburn|afk | My phone is broken |
| 02:54.31 | Hobinheim|work | lol yeah have someone send it |
| 02:54.44 | Hobinheim|work | to a uk number... hello overages |
| 02:54.51 | Hobinheim|work | i don't know what to do with wow |
| 02:54.58 | Hobinheim|work | i got kicked out of my guild again for inactivity |
| 02:55.04 | Hobinheim|work | i joined up again but i just hate that process |
| 02:55.10 | bleetah | hah |
| 02:55.11 | Kirkburn|afk | :/ |
| 02:55.12 | Hobinheim|work | i wanna like.... solo wow. or just play on my terms |
| 02:55.15 | Hobinheim|work | like know what i mean? |
| 02:55.22 | Hobinheim|work | i hat efeeling obligated that i have to help people |
| 02:55.28 | Hobinheim|work | but i obviously want help when i need it |
| 02:55.33 | Fin | Hobinheim|work: I did that for about 4 months before Christmas |
| 02:55.37 | Hobinheim|work | so i'm thinking BM hunter, very soloish, or shadowfirst |
| 02:55.39 | Hobinheim|work | fin, did what? |
| 02:55.43 | Fin | stopped raiding about September or a bit before |
| 02:55.45 | bleetah | I just quit the guild I was in 'coz of pretty much the same reason, although they promised to be supportive of me in my mod work, and the stuff I do on wowwiki (admittedly very small), they didn't uphold their end of the bargain... so I told them where to get off |
| 02:55.49 | Hobinheim|work | i wanna be like an associate member of a guild or something |
| 02:55.50 | Fin | played WoW on my own |
| 02:55.58 | Hobinheim|work | how was it |
| 02:56.05 | Fin | it was pretty good |
| 02:56.09 | Hobinheim|work | cuz i just wanna mellow out and not have anyone hassle me |
| 02:56.14 | Hobinheim|work | not that my guild was hassling me |
| 02:56.22 | Fin | I have a tank and a priest, so getting raids when I felt like it was quite easy |
| 02:56.30 | Hobinheim|work | but kicked out of inactivity, i understand where they're coming from, but its annoying |
| 02:56.40 | Hobinheim|work | two alts? |
| 02:56.53 | Fin | I know a lot of poeple from the big guilds of our server and was in a couple of them, so they invited me along more often than I accepted |
| 02:57.04 | Fin | I have a rogue, priest, and tank |
| 02:57.16 | Hobinheim|work | why do you keep saying tank, what class was it |
| 02:57.43 | Hobinheim|work | and threw all of this altitis, i still dislike rogues |
| 02:57.56 | Fin | it was a warrior |
| 02:58.17 | Fin | I have a thing about warriors who don't want to tank, it annoys the shit out of me |
| 02:58.23 | Fin | they all seemed to want to be "rogues in plate" |
| 02:58.41 | Hobinheim|work | heh |
| 02:58.55 | Hobinheim|work | charge amuses me to no end |
| 02:58.59 | Hobinheim|work | so what do you think i should do |
| 02:59.16 | Fin | it's because warriors were actually pretty lethal at really high levels, but they sucked for DPS until then, and anyone who rolled a warrior specifically for DPS (which was *everyone* apparently) was going to be an awful tank in a group or raid... |
| 02:59.21 | Fin | anyway |
| 02:59.27 | Fin | well, I think you should give it a go |
| 02:59.31 | Hobinheim|work | play by myself? |
| 02:59.42 | Fin | I really enjoyed floating around and joining pickups every now and again |
| 02:59.46 | Fin | do you have a lot of friends on the server? |
| 02:59.48 | Hobinheim|work | yeah i guess... |
| 02:59.51 | Hobinheim|work | no no friends |
| 02:59.55 | Hobinheim|work | i don't know anyone IRL that plays wow |
| 02:59.59 | Hobinheim|work | i mean i do but not really really |
| 03:00.03 | Hobinheim|work | not like with me on my servers |
| 03:00.05 | Fin | I mean, people that you know on the server |
| 03:00.07 | bleetah | US or EU, Hob? |
| 03:00.22 | Fin | one big reason it was still fun for me was that I was constantly on Teamspeak with a bunch of people I knew |
| 03:00.26 | Fin | (know) |
| 03:00.31 | Hobinheim|work | US |
| 03:00.32 | Fin | still am actually |
| 03:00.53 | Hobinheim|work | ehhh i mean i'm in association with the goons but... |
| 03:00.58 | Fin | it's a laugh, I ended up getting to know some of them in real life and stuff |
| 03:00.59 | Hobinheim|work | ehhh. |
| 03:01.13 | Hobinheim|work | i want people to look at me and be like hey hob is on, we can use him for dps/healing |
| 03:01.37 | Hobinheim|work | i don't know what i'm asking for. sounds so confusing |
| 03:01.40 | Fin | so, get healing :) |
| 03:01.46 | Hobinheim|work | and if i'm a BM hunter, aren't there a lot of those? |
| 03:01.50 | Hobinheim|work | isn't that like the ultranoob class? |
| 03:02.03 | Fin | they're all ultranoob classes mate |
| 03:02.10 | Fin | it's why everyone loves the game so much |
| 03:02.15 | Fin | we're all good at it |
| 03:02.22 | Fin | hard not to be |
| 03:02.53 | Fin | maybe try and find a smaller guild that's not focused on raiding or progression or whatever |
| 03:03.20 | Hobinheim|work | i almost wanted to make a guild |
| 03:03.31 | Hobinheim|work | "Low Impact - The Guild for People Who Want to Solo" |
| 03:03.37 | Fin | there were a bunch of nice guilds on our server that just seemed to stay together because they liked playing the game, no hassle - they worked things out with other guilds and went raiding sometimes as well |
| 03:03.43 | Fin | nice name |
| 03:03.52 | Fin | running a guild is a serious pain in the arse though |
| 03:03.52 | Hobinheim|work | i hate how gulids are all like do this register this do this sign that give this |
| 03:03.55 | Hobinheim|work | fuck man stop... |
| 03:04.09 | Fin | you have to put a lot of effort into it over a sustained period of time to make it successful |
| 03:04.15 | Hobinheim|work | my old guild is like that. technically, by age, i'm a veteran, but i'm still in noob rank cuz i don't talk to anyone and don't do anything |
| 03:04.29 | Hobinheim|work | but see in my dream it's a low impact guild! get it! not really... |
| 03:04.51 | Fin | is that the guild that kicked you for inactivity? |
| 03:04.59 | Hobinheim|work | no that's my fictional guild |
| 03:05.06 | Fin | ah |
| 03:05.10 | Hobinheim|work | the gulid that kicked me out is the goon guild |
| 03:05.11 | Fin | Low Impact, nice name that |
| 03:05.18 | Fin | neat |
| 03:05.19 | Hobinheim|work | since i'm a goon elsewhere, i'll always have membership with them |
| 03:05.29 | Fin | I might steal it, but I've got plans! |
| 03:05.30 | Hobinheim|work | but asking to be resigned up again dna again is tiresome and embarassing |
| 03:05.32 | Hobinheim|work | know what i mean |
| 03:05.53 | Fin | I don't like the whole recruitment process most guilds have |
| 03:05.59 | Hobinheim|work | what don't you like |
| 03:06.03 | Hobinheim|work | maybe it jives with my crazy vision |
| 03:06.30 | Fin | well, it seems like people like making up rules and procedures to make it official, but it's more about *having* rules and procedures in the first place |
| 03:06.38 | Fin | a lot of the time common sense is all you need |
| 03:06.50 | Hobinheim|work | LOW IMPACT SON! |
| 03:06.57 | Hobinheim|work | i'm getting romantic, i feel like making it =( |
| 03:07.11 | Hobinheim|work | get it. low impact. the guild for people who like don't like things to get in the wya |
| 03:07.21 | Hobinheim|work | like a coalition of soloers |
| 03:07.26 | Fin | so make it, but only if you think you'll stick with it :) |
| 03:07.39 | Hobinheim|work | low impact leader for a low impact guild =) |
| 03:08.11 | Hobinheim|work | i don't like guilds to be WORK |
| 03:08.14 | Fin | well... you wouldn't get anyone wanting to join without *some* sort of impact :) |
| 03:08.14 | Hobinheim|work | i never understood that |
| 03:08.24 | Fin | well, they have to be work at some level really |
| 03:08.29 | Hobinheim|work | i'm sure i can trick some newbs into joining |
| 03:08.36 | Hobinheim|work | like if they stumble on a rock or something |
| 03:08.40 | Fin | someone has to make some decisions at some point about stuff |
| 03:08.46 | Fin | heh |
| 03:08.50 | Hobinheim|work | like what. lowwwwww impacccccct |
| 03:09.22 | Fin | you know, I thought guilds were the most immature and childish idea before I played WoW |
| 03:09.38 | Fin | and I guess a lot of the time people in them are |
| 03:09.48 | Hobinheim|work | and now? |
| 03:09.53 | Fin | well... |
| 03:10.05 | Hobinheim|work | childish with epics |
| 03:10.08 | Fin | I only joined my first guild because I was curious to see all the weenies being weenies |
| 03:10.16 | Fin | and then it turned out different |
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| 03:11.24 | Hobinheim|work | romantic guild idea aside... what do you suggest. just play the way i want to play and it will work itself out? |
| 03:11.33 | Hobinheim|work | that probably means unguilded =( |
| 03:11.59 | Hobinheim|work | i dunno i'm sorta scared because goons almost always speak badly of unguilded characters |
| 03:12.00 | Fin | yes |
| 03:12.11 | Fin | so? doesn't mean they're right |
| 03:12.30 | Hobinheim|work | BM hunter? or shadowpriest... |
| 03:12.38 | bleetah | I will say that it's one advantage of RP realms, unguilded isn't rated as much of a bad thing as on 'normal' realms |
| 03:12.38 | Hobinheim|work | pet user (love pets) or party magnet... |
| 03:12.40 | Fin | just join groups for a while, check out who's on the server, maybe you'll meet some cool people |
| 03:13.03 | Hobinheim|work | any suggestions on other cool specs |
| 03:13.04 | Fin | I'm rolling another priest atm |
| 03:13.26 | Hobinheim|work | most of my career has been in demo. and i hear affliction and destro play differently |
| 03:13.37 | Hobinheim|work | i'm also combatting altitis so i have lots of alts to start from |
| 03:13.59 | Hobinheim|work | i dunno there's something so magical about bieng able to sick my pet, mark, and autoshot all at the same time |
| 03:14.02 | Hobinheim|work | like a LAZYBOY arm chair |
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| 14:58.59 | Tepetkhet | Payday was supposed to be last Friday. |
| 14:59.06 | Tepetkhet | I did not get a paycheck. My boss "forgot". |
| 14:59.11 | Tepetkhet | Said I'd have it Monday. |
| 14:59.18 | winkiller | is mailing a salt-shaker to reduce the cooldown considered bug abuse and shouldn't be put into the wiki? :P |
| 14:59.45 | Tepetkhet | There wasn't a paycheck waiting for me when I got in. |
| 14:59.59 | Tepetkhet | winkiller: I didn't know that reduced the cooldown. |
| 15:00.01 | isildor | maybe thats a hint? |
| 15:00.04 | Tuqui-tuqui | Im guessing you work for a small company |
| 15:00.08 | Tepetkhet | Very small. |
| 15:00.20 | Tepetkhet | isildor: Could very well be. |
| 15:00.26 | winkiller | Tepetkhet: I didn't try to absolutely reproduce, but found it out by mistake |
| 15:00.26 | Tuqui-tuqui | doubt it |
| 15:00.44 | Tuqui-tuqui | you could maybe forget to work today |
| 15:00.54 | Tepetkhet | Tuqui-tuqui: I was considering it. |
| 15:00.56 | winkiller | cured rugged hide is not so important anymore :/ |
| 15:01.19 | Tepetkhet | How long before I'm assumed to be terminated and possibly able to collect unemployment I wonder? |
| 15:02.09 | Tuqui-tuqui | 2 weeks |
| 15:02.14 | Tuqui-tuqui | wait |
| 15:02.18 | Tuqui-tuqui | thats resignation |
| 15:02.23 | Tuqui-tuqui | termination? |
| 15:02.25 | Tuqui-tuqui | 2 minutes :p |
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| 15:03.10 | Risky-pc | hmm i guess its working now...wowwiki was having issues |
| 15:03.54 | Tepetkhet | slowwiki? |
| 15:06.29 | Risky-pc | just the normal error message |
| 15:06.38 | Risky-pc | all links seemed to go to the main page |
| 15:06.43 | Risky-pc | seems to be ok now though |
| 15:21.56 | winkiller | not for me |
| 15:22.53 | winkiller | bah, leatherworking needs some serious love |
| 15:40.09 | Risky-pc | heh i'm having a bizarre bug |
| 15:40.23 | Risky-pc | my bot is refusing to attack the next target until i alt-tab away from WoW |
| 15:40.34 | Risky-pc | pretty messed lol |
| 15:40.50 | Risky-pc | heh oops wrong chan lol |
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| 15:41.33 | winkiller | lol? |
| 15:42.03 | Tepetkhet | Yeah, I'd say... |
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| 15:48.06 | winkiller | http://www.wowwiki.com/Felstalker_Armor <- is that really a stub? what could I add? |
| 15:50.50 | Hobinheim|work | feel free to unstub it if you see fit |
| 15:52.50 | winkiller | I copied some Tailoring set page |
| 15:53.13 | winkiller | is it ok, to add the 3 single parts of teh set onto that page? or better single pages? |
| 15:57.27 | Hobinheim|work | if something is an item, generally it's one page per item |
| 15:57.44 | Hobinheim|work | if you're talking about the set as a whole, that too also merits its own page |
| 15:59.29 | winkiller | ah, I see, I see |
| 15:59.40 | winkiller | thanks - will try to make something sensible |
| 16:01.59 | Hobinheim|work | so if a set had six items in it, expect to see seven pages about the topic as a whole |
| 16:03.06 | winkiller | yep |
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| 16:19.39 | iko|FTH | no matter how many times i see this it never gets old |
| 16:19.41 | iko|FTH | http://files.myopera.com/Jademyst/albums/29642/horde.jpg |
| 16:20.50 | winkiller | idd |
| 16:25.10 | iko|FTH | wow |
| 16:25.16 | iko|FTH | it's been so long since i've used irc |
| 16:25.23 | iko|FTH | i acctaully had to wiki idd :/ |
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| 16:42.14 | ChrisD | Question from a noob mod developer: if CastSpell() has been protected, but there is a /cast command... how can I get a function to cast something for me? |
| 16:42.31 | ChrisD | (ideally I'd like to press a button to cast a spell at a target) |
| 16:42.42 | ChrisD | TargetUnit() has been protected too, it seems |
| 16:48.33 | Hobinheim|work | superficially, it sounds like you want a macro |
| 16:48.37 | Hobinheim|work | where a mod isn't necessary |
| 16:48.42 | Hobinheim|work | care to explain, in english, what you want |
| 16:48.52 | ChrisD | well.... i had rather grand plans to create a one-button fear warder |
| 16:49.00 | ChrisD | but upon doing a bit more research it seems like this is illegal |
| 16:49.11 | Hobinheim|work | the short answer on my end, is that although protected and possible, i myself do not know how to make a mod intelligently cast a spell out of combat |
| 16:49.16 | ChrisD | fear ward has a 30 sec cooldown, lasts 10 minutes, and poofs upon one "hit" |
| 16:49.32 | Hobinheim|work | could you expound a bit |
| 16:49.35 | Hobinheim|work | i'm not following |
| 16:49.53 | ChrisD | Sure.. Fear ward is a buff that I'd like to be able to keep up on my group at all times. |
| 16:50.24 | Hobinheim|work | you want to have one button spam rotate fear ward? |
| 16:50.27 | ChrisD | The problem is that it is difficult to do so because of the cooldown, short duration, and the "shield" nature of the buff (it disappears after it absorbs one fear). |
| 16:50.43 | ChrisD | Well, it doesn't have to do that, but I'd like something to at least be able to help with the process of keeping it up on people. |
| 16:50.54 | Hobinheim|work | this... is possible, so i've heard. only if you're out of combat |
| 16:51.06 | Hobinheim|work | and the coding style is different since you need to use protected templates, which i have zero experience fore |
| 16:51.09 | ChrisD | Yeah, it'd need to be in combat though.. fear ward drops commonly in combat. |
| 16:51.11 | Hobinheim|work | besides we're not the UI channel |
| 16:51.16 | Hobinheim|work | not possible |
| 16:51.20 | ChrisD | Oh, there *is* a ui channel? |
| 16:51.22 | Hobinheim|work | you can manually cast fear ward |
| 16:51.28 | Hobinheim|work | but you can't have a mod make decisions for you in combat |
| 16:51.30 | Hobinheim|work | yes |
| 16:51.36 | Hobinheim|work | wowi-lounge i believe |
| 16:51.41 | Hobinheim|work | note the i |
| 16:51.45 | Hobinheim|work | wowweeeeee |
| 16:51.48 | ChrisD | Thanks. :) |
| 16:52.05 | ChrisD | Is there a way to maybe... click on people who need fear ward? |
| 16:52.10 | ChrisD | Perhaps right click on them? |
| 16:53.18 | Hobinheim|work | you could make a macro that fear wards anyone you mouse over, if you click something |
| 16:53.27 | dok3Dal | <FrN~ChrisD> Perhaps right click on them? << yes |
| 16:53.37 | Hobinheim|work | oh yeah with Clique you can do that |
| 16:53.38 | Hobinheim|work | totally forgot |
| 16:53.41 | Hobinheim|work | clique and grid |
| 16:53.45 | dok3Dal | /cast [target=mouseover] Fear Ward |
| 16:53.52 | dok3Dal | something like that |
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| 16:54.11 | ChrisD | is there a way to only cast it if they don't have it? |
| 16:54.24 | ChrisD | ie, do some buff checking in the macro |
| 16:54.29 | dok3Dal | no |
| 16:54.42 | dok3Dal | you cannot make conditional action since 2.0 |
| 16:54.49 | Hobinheim|work | no |
| 16:54.50 | ChrisD | k.. |
| 16:54.59 | ChrisD | how about a macro that can target a variable set by lua functions? |
| 16:55.16 | ChrisD | or am i essentially trying to perform an action that is, at the core, illegal |
| 16:55.33 | Hobinheim|work | probably illega |
| 16:55.33 | ChrisD | ie, fear ward is "supposed" to be difficult to keep up on your group |
| 16:55.41 | Hobinheim|work | you're better off explaining to us, in english, what you want |
| 16:55.45 | Hobinheim|work | and we'll tell you possible not possible |
| 16:55.59 | Hobinheim|work | nearly anything intelligent, controlled by a mod, is illegal in wow 2.0 |
| 16:56.12 | Hobinheim|work | some things, which are semi-intelligent and helpful, are legal |
| 16:56.16 | Hobinheim|work | buff detection is illegal |
| 16:56.19 | Hobinheim|work | in combat i mean |
| 16:56.24 | Hobinheim|work | out of combat you can do whatever you want |
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| 16:57.01 | Hobinheim|work | hail, Gryphen |
| 16:57.01 | ChrisD | I want to make fw easier to keep up on my group. Optimal: I'd like to be able to push one button and have my lua function automatically determine the next appropriate target by class priority (tanks first, healers second, casters last, etc), and automatically cast it. |
| 16:57.11 | dok3Dal | <FrN~Hobinheim|work> buff detection is illegal << no you can do buff/debuff detection but you cannot use it to cast or do something automaticaly |
| 16:57.12 | Hobinheim|work | not possible, unless you're out of combat |
| 16:57.17 | ChrisD | Also, I'd like a notification 30 seconds after I've cast it that it's ready and waiting to be cast again. |
| 16:57.33 | Gryphen | hola Hobinheim|work |
| 16:57.36 | Hobinheim|work | notifciation is definitely possible |
| 16:57.36 | ChrisD | So the optimal solution isn't really possible. |
| 16:57.45 | Hobinheim|work | you just have to tweak your expectations |
| 16:57.50 | ChrisD | Yeah, I think I can do the notification part. |
| 16:57.56 | Hobinheim|work | notification isn't an action, i.e. it's just feedback, so that's compeltely programmable |
| 16:58.10 | ChrisD | Can you call lua functions from macros? |
| 16:58.17 | Hobinheim|work | some |
| 16:58.23 | Hobinheim|work | but at this rate probably not the ones you want |
| 16:59.19 | ChrisD | Well, I mean, if I could just make a macro to /cast fear ward; --delay 30 seconds; --print some text using sct("FW ready!"); --PlaySound("some sort of ding") |
| 16:59.23 | ChrisD | I think that'd be sufficient |
| 17:00.07 | Hobinheim|work | you're better off just staring at the fear ward icon |
| 17:00.10 | ChrisD | haha |
| 17:00.13 | Hobinheim|work | or get omni cc |
| 17:00.14 | Hobinheim|work | i'm serious |
| 17:00.21 | Hobinheim|work | omni cc makes cooldowns on buttons WAY more obvious |
| 17:00.26 | Hobinheim|work | big flashy lights and red numbers |
| 17:00.41 | Hobinheim|work | bongos = huge button. omni cc = extremely visible cooldown |
| 17:00.42 | ChrisD | hm, i'll look into it |
| 17:00.50 | ChrisD | i heard about bongos too |
| 17:00.52 | Hobinheim|work | bongos + omni cc = HUGE VISIBLE COOLDOWN |
| 17:00.53 | ChrisD | i'll have to look at that |
| 17:01.26 | ChrisD | Do you know what the mod is that shows the approximate time left on spells you cast on others, say CC? |
| 17:01.37 | Hobinheim|work | dotimer |
| 17:01.43 | ChrisD | (so I know, to the second assuming no resists, when to re-sheep) |
| 17:01.50 | ChrisD | re-shackle/re-fear/whatever |
| 17:01.56 | Hobinheim|work | dotimer for things in general |
| 17:02.03 | Hobinheim|work | there might be class specific mods that do it better or differently |
| 17:02.10 | Hobinheim|work | but dotimer is your generic all class solution |
| 17:02.15 | ChrisD | great, thanks. :) |
| 17:02.15 | Hobinheim|work | necrosis for locks |
| 17:02.20 | Hobinheim|work | maybe MAYBE cryolosis for mages |
| 17:02.47 | ChrisD | ooh, omni cc looks basically like trinketmenu's cooldown numbers |
| 17:03.08 | ChrisD | does it replace every instance of the ... "shadow clock" cooldown effect on icons? |
| 17:08.44 | Hobinheim|work | everywhre |
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| 17:13.57 | gdb | ChrisD: NECB is all you need for everything. |
| 17:14.07 | gdb | ChrisD: Natur Enemy Cast Bars |
| 17:14.30 | gdb | your dots, your buddy's dots, stun timers, poly timers, mob casting bars, everything |
| 17:15.45 | gdb | oh and boss ability timers, and some event timers (like for example when mobs start spawning after aggroing the controller at the razorgore event) |
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| 17:39.33 | Zeal | lo all |
| 17:40.32 | Tepetkhet | HI. |
| 17:41.03 | Zeal | your boss needs soem death threats Tepetkhet.. lol |
| 17:43.59 | Zeal | lmao @ draenei |
| 17:48.02 | Tepetkhet | My boss needs to just...you know...pay me. |
| 17:52.26 | Zeal | means to an end, possibly his and your job, lol ;) |
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| 18:10.10 | iko|FTH | the guy invented the internet though ;o |
| 18:10.44 | smitty | Yes, but it's a series of tubes! :-P |
| 18:11.08 | Zeal | lol |
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| 18:13.07 | smitty | Is it just me, or do half the links on wowwiki lead to the main page? |
| 18:13.54 | Zeal | all pages are temporarily serving a messed up main page when there's problems |
| 18:16.36 | Zeal | aww, youtube honors are only temp? :( |
| 18:24.35 | gdb | http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp |
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| 18:43.04 | smitty | seems like there are problems... maybe they are working on the update. |
| 18:55.15 | Kirkburn | No it just gets like this sometimes :( |
| 18:55.30 | Kirkburn | The software update is coming soon :) |
| 18:55.41 | Kirkburn | Wikipedia went down earlier :P |
| 18:55.46 | Zeal | smitty, the tubes are tangled.. |
| 18:55.59 | Zeal | blame all the comerical entities |
| 18:56.06 | Zeal | they make your internet slow. |
| 18:56.08 | Zeal | :p |
| 18:56.10 | Kirkburn | Waitasec |
| 18:56.18 | Kirkburn | I just got a different WoWWiki has a problem page |
| 18:56.23 | Zeal | :o |
| 18:56.37 | Zeal | let my call scooby and the gang.. |
| 18:57.01 | Kirkburn | I think it was the one we're supposed to get |
| 18:57.08 | Kirkburn | But we get it plus the main page overlaid on it |
| 18:57.47 | Zeal | we can't even get errors right :P |
| 18:58.23 | Kirkburn | haha |
| 19:00.20 | Zeal | teir set reitemization |
| 19:00.27 | Zeal | funz |
| 19:00.40 | smitty | sounds like a real hoot |
| 19:01.08 | Zeal | well the expansion raid sets should be getting an increase |
| 19:01.17 | Zeal | of stats that is |
| 19:01.31 | smitty | thotbot is also glitchy. It seems it's monday again; all the tubes are tangled |
| 19:03.01 | Zeal | we'll have to start using the truck system i guess |
| 19:03.37 | Zeal | or make a new internet |
| 19:03.47 | Zeal | just for wowwiki |
| 19:05.41 | Zeal | just blatent stupidity count as vandalism? :p |
| 19:05.45 | Zeal | *does |
| 19:10.58 | Zeal | stupid fucking itunes |
| 19:11.13 | smitty | is it de-tubed also? |
| 19:11.58 | Zeal | 1) why the hell would i want the latest episode downloaded when i update an podcast, i wan't the oldest one i don't have and thne download all ones after it. 2) if a download is queied for too long, it just silently cancels it. |
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| 19:35.17 | Tuqui-tuqui | we have tier 6 videos |
| 19:35.20 | Tuqui-tuqui | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8605546602265839625 |
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| 19:55.53 | Zeal | official, as we've had leaked ones for ages.. |
| 19:56.14 | Zeal | oh that thing |
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| 20:00.11 | Tuqui-tuqui | ^_^ |
| 20:01.31 | Zeal | http://www.smartlaunch.net/ <-- makes me wish i was still running a lan center :( |
| 20:16.56 | Tepetkhet | hrm |
| 20:17.00 | Tepetkhet | Still no word from my boss. |
| 20:17.05 | Tepetkhet | Still no paycheck. |
| 20:19.39 | equiraptor | I would hate to have to watch my boss like that. :( |
| 20:25.12 | Tuqui-tuqui | have you told him anything? |
| 20:26.32 | Tepetkhet | Friday I called. |
| 20:26.38 | Tepetkhet | He said I would have my paycheck today. |
| 20:26.49 | Tepetkhet | He was in the office over the weekend and did not have a check ready for me... |
| 20:27.12 | Tepetkhet | Today he's not in the office again. |
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| 20:40.48 | Tepetkhet | boss here. |
| 20:40.48 | Tepetkhet | bye |
| 20:42.51 | Tuqui-tuqui | >.> |
| 20:54.25 | bleetah | new instance announced in Under Dev http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/underdev/ |
| 20:54.49 | Tuqui-tuqui | yeah :D |
| 20:54.53 | Tuqui-tuqui | get to fight Illidan |
| 20:55.09 | bleetah | oooh yeah :-D |
| 20:55.20 | Tuqui-tuqui | question remains |
| 20:55.23 | bleetah | now, if I can just join a guild that *doesn't* suck monkey balls |
| 20:55.25 | Tuqui-tuqui | will we be able to kill him though :p |
| 20:55.34 | Tuqui-tuqui | and good luck with that |
| 20:55.55 | bleetah | lucky is not a factor, unfortunately |
| 20:56.52 | bleetah | just shits me off that both the guilds I was previously in would penalize me for time spent trying to write mods, do wowwiki stuff.. community things |
| 20:57.30 | bleetah | and then they'd have the balls to ask each time I login about other mod's faults, lore and quest info, etc. etc. etc. |
| 20:58.28 | Tuqui-tuqui | -.- |
| 20:58.29 | Tuqui-tuqui | rofl |
| 20:58.52 | Tuqui-tuqui | my GM started our guild because he was tired of being bossed around by his previous guild |
| 20:59.01 | Tuqui-tuqui | he went and he named the guild after himself |
| 20:59.08 | Tuqui-tuqui | Gacksmugger |
| 21:03.33 | Kirkburn | That's a ... lovely name |
| 21:05.01 | Tuqui-tuqui | XD |
| 21:05.03 | Tuqui-tuqui | question |
| 21:05.06 | Tuqui-tuqui | do you know at what level |
| 21:05.16 | Tuqui-tuqui | you can start doing Timbermaw Hold quests? |
| 21:05.22 | Tuqui-tuqui | I would like to get rep with them |
| 21:05.27 | Kirkburn | 48 or so |
| 21:05.33 | Kirkburn | Actually wait |
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| 21:05.40 | Tuqui-tuqui | :o |
| 21:05.42 | Kirkburn | Possibly as low at 45-ish |
| 21:05.45 | Tuqui-tuqui | no way |
| 21:05.51 | Tuqui-tuqui | you dont need TBC for that, do you? |
| 21:05.52 | Kirkburn | Yes way :) |
| 21:05.53 | bleetah | I think the lower felwood bear feather drop is 45 |
| 21:06.04 | Tuqui-tuqui | I wanna start on it now that Im 52 :D |
| 21:06.05 | Kirkburn | No, no need for TBC |
| 21:06.22 | Tuqui-tuqui | I want the Defender of the Timbermaw ring :D |
| 21:08.40 | Zeal | heh |
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| 21:32.14 | Tuqui-tuqui | -.- |
| 21:32.22 | Tuqui-tuqui | is wiki responding for youguys? |
| 21:32.26 | Tuqui-tuqui | oh, there we go |
| 21:32.27 | Tuqui-tuqui | nvm |
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| 21:41.45 | Sky2042 | the wiki was driving me nuts |
| 21:41.47 | Sky2042 | -_- |
| 21:41.56 | Sky2042 | other than that, good afternoon to ye all! |
| 21:46.37 | bleetah | gmorn |
| 21:48.19 | Zeal | lo |
| 21:49.03 | Tuqui-tuqui | good afternoon from here |
| 21:52.22 | Kirkburn | Lol, this article about another wiki is awesome - http://jonswift.blogspot.com/2007/02/conservapedia.html |
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| 21:53.47 | Paul|JAPAAAAAN44 | ah didnt think that many would be here |
| 21:56.29 | Sky2042 | i read a bit, and i couldn't help but smile Kirk. =) |
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| 21:58.18 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 21:58.22 | Deathface | heya, is anyone else having trouble logging in? |
| 21:58.33 | Paul|JAPAAAAAN44 | yeah |
| 21:58.34 | Kirkburn | The actual site (Conservapedia) appears to be being hammered atm |
| 21:58.36 | Paul|JAPAAAAAN44 | says world server is down |
| 21:58.44 | Kirkburn | Logging in to WoW? |
| 21:58.52 | Deathface | yeah into wow |
| 21:59.02 | Kirkburn | Phew, don't worry me like that :P |
| 21:59.07 | Deathface | my realm wont load up |
| 21:59.16 | Deathface | lol |
| 21:59.32 | Paul|JAPAAAAAN44 | apparently Mal'ganis is down |
| 22:02.08 | Paul|JAPAAAAAN44 | works now |
| 22:02.15 | Paul|JAPAAAAAN44 | nvm |
| 22:02.23 | Tuqui-tuqui | -.- |
| 22:05.24 | Sky2042 | lawl |
| 22:05.35 | Deathface | back for me to :P |
| 22:10.11 | Sky2042 | LOL@THAT ARTICLE. |
| 22:10.28 | Sky2042 | That really made me laugh with the SS of his article |
| 22:13.54 | Kirkburn | Sky2042, oh lol I just got it |
| 22:14.00 | Kirkburn | Oh god damn you! |
| 22:15.15 | Kirkburn | Oh that was very very lol |
| 22:15.26 | Kirkburn | On #wikipedia they had a major MAJOR spam deluge |
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| 22:15.35 | Igor-wow | boo |
| 22:15.42 | Kirkburn | So major that is actually caused the AntiSpamBots to quit! |
| 22:15.49 | Kirkburn | Igor-wow, hullo |
| 22:18.29 | Igor-wow | how goes the addon culture? |
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| 22:18.47 | Igor-wow | i fear i've been neglecting my humble addition |
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| 22:23.08 | toktok | Just to clarify something: the wiki says that the slim installer requires the wow client installed. Does that mean the full installer does not require it to be installed? If not, what is the difference between the two. How can I also extract the slim torrent from the installer. The method described on the wiki no longer works |
| 22:24.44 | bleetah | updated the linux page to explain that wine d3d works, just not in multithreaded rendering mode |
| 22:25.11 | bleetah | (and you'll lose fps anyway) |
| 22:36.28 | willskills | SysInfo: Linux 2.6.17-11-generic | AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+ 2211.535 MHz | Mem: 702/1035M [||||||||||] | Diskspace: 63G Free: 37G | Bogomips: 4427.65 | Screen Res: 1280x1024 | Procs: 107 | | Up: | eth1: In: 26.88M Out: 11.55M |
| 22:36.30 | willskills | xd |
| 22:36.46 | willskills | pity extra glows don't work |
| 22:36.53 | willskills | but I run in OpenGL mode fine :) |
| 22:36.59 | willskills | nice fps :> |
| 22:37.29 | willskills | 10,000rpm sata hd/d |
| 22:37.37 | willskills | and geforce 6600gt |
| 22:37.51 | willskills | need new card ;x |
| 22:38.50 | bleetah | what's the name of that script, again? I thought it was sysinfo, but either I'm wrong, or don't have it installed |
| 22:39.07 | bleetah | or are you using some thing that's now built into your client (/me guesses xchat) |
| 22:39.15 | *** part/#wowwiki toktok (i=waffles@87-194-16-10.bethere.co.uk) |
| 22:46.12 | bleetah | hmm, yeah, it's irssi and xchat.. wish I could remember where the equiv standalone is |
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| 23:00.18 | bleetah | (Upload log); 22:49 . . Fuck Kirkburn (Talk | contribs) (uploaded "Image:Icon-disambig-48x48.png": A big fat geek) |
| 23:03.23 | bleetah | having too many 'wowwiki has a problem' pages to be able to read what I should do to delete/block user, etc. |
| 23:03.29 | bleetah | I mean to do so one day rsn :) |
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| 23:11.04 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+o Kirkburn] by ChanServ |
| 23:12.27 | Kirkburn | bleetah, what did I miss? |
| 23:12.43 | bleetah | some user called 'fuck kirkburn' |
| 23:12.47 | bleetah | uploaded some image |
| 23:12.47 | Zeal | yes, the wikipedia is biased becacuse it allows all sides of an issue to be documents, documents all things big and small, allows for foreign languages.. urgh |
| 23:12.57 | Kirkburn | Has it been dealt with? :) |
| 23:13.00 | Zeal | stupid american christians.. |
| 23:13.16 | bleetah | dunno, I keep getting 'has a problem' |
| 23:13.17 | Kirkburn | Same :( |
| 23:13.38 | Kirkburn | To pass the time: |
| 23:13.44 | Kirkburn | www.starpants.ytmnd.com |
| 23:14.08 | bleetah | this is also good for passing the time -> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=2b1_1172462850 <- judge judy heavily owning an ebay scammer |
| 23:14.42 | Kirkburn | sancus, quick note to mention, we're getting lots of "WoWWiki has a problem" today |
| 23:14.46 | Zeal | that's my first bleetah.. |
| 23:14.53 | Kirkburn | Any possibility of a restart? |
| 23:15.08 | Zeal | and rofl @ theory of relativity entry. |
| 23:16.13 | Kirkburn | Lol "Already Conservapedia has become one of the largest user-controlled free encyclopedias on the internet" |
| 23:16.51 | Kirkburn | I don't think this publicity is going to help |
| 23:18.15 | Kirkburn | Wait, did I just read on the main page that "faith is a uniquely christian concept"? |
| 23:20.33 | Kirkburn | Here's an interesting thing - this channel has 47 users, the wikipedia channel has 278 - by our relative sizes we should have about 3 people :P |
| 23:21.53 | bleetah | can't even connect to it.. so I'm guessing I'm not missing much (conservapedia) |
| 23:23.23 | Kirkburn | You have to wait for a while to get any pages :) |
| 23:26.19 | Kirkburn | They just appear to have banned Canada and .net from the wikipedia channel \o/ |
| 23:30.17 | Zeal | lol |
| 23:30.38 | Zeal | it's about time some religions learnt what i retcon is ;) |
| 23:30.45 | Zeal | *a |
| 23:31.29 | Kirkburn | "Sorry, we told you Jesus was dead, but we actually meant: he's living in Upper Manhattan" |
| 23:31.38 | Kirkburn | That kind of retcon? |
| 23:32.30 | Zeal | yeah :p |
| 23:34.04 | Kirkburn | Aiee, that vandal affected a LOT of pages with that image change |
| 23:34.45 | Zeal | erm.. |
| 23:35.05 | Zeal | i uploaded those.. they should all be watched :s |
| 23:35.37 | Kirkburn | If you find any popular ones, tell me and I'll protect them |
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| 23:35.53 | Zeal | oh. image actions don;t show in the watchlist |
| 23:35.55 | Zeal | lame.. |
| 23:36.07 | Zeal | i really wish they would merge logs and contributions.. |
| 23:36.40 | Zeal | 100% loaded apparently. heh |
| 23:36.59 | Kirkburn | 100% loaded? |
| 23:37.19 | Zeal | conservapedia |
| 23:37.32 | Kirkburn | How do you know? |
| 23:37.36 | Zeal | got all the source now, jsut watining on the page to actually render.. |
| 23:37.40 | Zeal | cos ie7 says? :S |
| 23:37.57 | Zeal | though it said 100% before i had all the source.. stupid ie.. |
| 23:38.02 | Kirkburn | Oh right |
| 23:38.12 | Zeal | hm.. their css file didn't load |
| 23:38.15 | Zeal | lolz |
| 23:39.28 | Kirkburn | "Alexa rank now 582,956" |
| 23:39.40 | Zeal | "Conservapedia is a much-needed alternative to Wikipedia, which is increasingly anti-Christian and anti-American." how is anti-christian anti-american? evne if all americans were christian except 1, that's not anti-american.. |
| 23:40.06 | Kirkburn | Anti-American is applied to anything the speaker doesn't agree with |
| 23:40.12 | Zeal | true true |
| 23:40.21 | Zeal | unpatriotic too.. |
| 23:40.35 | Kirkburn | At some point both sides will realise, wait a second, it doesn't actually mean anything any more! |
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| 23:40.49 | vlad_ | ok |
| 23:40.51 | Kirkburn | Hello |
| 23:41.00 | vlad_ | http://www.wowwiki.com/Tailoring_Leveling_Guide -slams- the server |
| 23:41.05 | vlad_ | I have no idea why, since I can't load the page yet |
| 23:41.17 | Kirkburn | Sounds like it's full of templates |
| 23:41.20 | Zeal | well in a week or so, they will drop like a bomb |
| 23:41.25 | Zeal | next to no traffic, heh |
| 23:41.35 | Zeal | possibly be hacked too |
| 23:41.54 | Kirkburn | ( vlad_, we're talking about Conservapedia btw ) |
| 23:42.14 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+o vlad_] by ChanServ |
| 23:42.17 | Kirkburn | ( just in case you were wondering :P ) |
| 23:42.24 | vlad_ | heh |
| 23:42.46 | Kirkburn | Back to that page - sound like the Cooking recipies debacle |
| 23:42.46 | vlad_ | bleh, so I have the mw update done in a VM |
| 23:42.49 | vlad_ | I just need to move it live |
| 23:42.58 | Zeal | it's possibly the same thing that happened to the cooking recipies page |
| 23:43.00 | Kirkburn | So you said :) |
| 23:43.02 | vlad_ | I'll do that this weekend, since I'm 99% not going skiing :p |
| 23:43.04 | Zeal | samn you! |
| 23:43.08 | Zeal | *damn |
| 23:43.10 | Kirkburn | Yeah, samn you! |
| 23:43.13 | Zeal | :p |
| 23:43.28 | Kirkburn | We look forward to it :) |
| 23:43.37 | vlad_ | yeah, so does the hardware ;) |
| 23:43.38 | Zeal | nice vlad_, can't wait. literally ;) |
| 23:43.43 | Kirkburn | haha |
| 23:43.44 | vlad_ | ok, so |
| 23:43.49 | Kirkburn | Back to that page? |
| 23:43.53 | vlad_ | yeah |
| 23:43.59 | vlad_ | I can't actually get it to load before its killed heh |
| 23:44.00 | Zeal | Kirkburn, hit the good old delete button.. |
| 23:44.07 | vlad_ | well, no |
| 23:44.21 | Kirkburn | It depends on what it's showing |
| 23:44.28 | Zeal | oh, i've got a good guess |
| 23:44.50 | Zeal | fucking itunes |
| 23:44.56 | Zeal | useless downlod queue.. |
| 23:45.02 | Kirkburn | That's an odd thing for a Tailoring page to show ... |
| 23:45.06 | vlad_ | heh |
| 23:45.20 | Kirkburn | Was the Cooking recipies page sorted out? |
| 23:45.30 | vlad_ | argh there are like 10 people trying to load that page now |
| 23:45.34 | vlad_ | this is bad, don't click on it! |
| 23:45.45 | Zeal | i beleive vv reverted the links back with his bot Kirkburn |
| 23:45.52 | Kirkburn | Possibly best for now would be to move it somewhere unlinked? |
| 23:46.19 | Kirkburn | What was the exact problem? |
| 23:46.27 | vlad_ | haha |
| 23:46.29 | vlad_ | its content |
| 23:46.35 | vlad_ | is #REDIRECT [[Tailoring Levelling Guide]] |
| 23:46.41 | Kirkburn | ... |
| 23:46.53 | vlad_ | I cannot believe that MW Doesn't catch that |
| 23:47.19 | Zeal | huh? :S |
| 23:47.31 | vlad_ | wait no |
| 23:47.34 | vlad_ | i'm an idiot, that was a typo |
| 23:47.55 | vlad_ | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Tailoring_Levelling_Guide&action=edit |
| 23:47.55 | vlad_ | ok |
| 23:47.57 | Kirkburn | :D |
| 23:48.05 | vlad_ | there are 5 quintillion templates on that page |
| 23:48.21 | Kirkburn | Is this like on of those things where you give us a link and tell us not to click it? :P |
| 23:48.24 | vlad_ | no |
| 23:48.29 | vlad_ | you can click that one, since it doesn't try to render it :) |
| 23:48.33 | vlad_ | I swear there was a way to disable templates on a page |
| 23:49.23 | Kirkburn | That's the page causing the problem? |
| 23:49.26 | Zeal | "cite your sources" {{Cite|The Bible|Matthew 666}}. i'd imagine conservapedia recognizes the bible as the highest source, even over real life.. >_> |
| 23:49.30 | vlad_ | yeah, I believe so |
| 23:49.45 | Kirkburn | Not showing much for me |
| 23:50.04 | Kirkburn | I see some uses of {{Common}} and {{uncommon}}, but that's all |
| 23:50.22 | Zeal | oh no wonders, i forgot to add index.php.. heh |
| 23:50.49 | Kirkburn | I can't see why on earth half those templates at the bottom are appearing |
| 23:50.56 | vlad_ | yeah |
| 23:50.58 | vlad_ | that's the problem I think |
| 23:51.02 | Kirkburn | Anyway, I'll remove the templates and we'll see what happens |
| 23:51.21 | vlad_ | well wait |
| 23:51.26 | Zeal | it looks like something somewhere is using one of my templates tbh. |
| 23:51.34 | Kirkburn | Waiting :) |
| 23:51.35 | vlad_ | the problem is the teampltes that are showing up below |
| 23:51.42 | Zeal | as Item: is from me. |
| 23:51.49 | Kirkburn | Let's find the culprit! |
| 23:52.25 | vlad_ | I don't see it using Item at all |
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| 23:53.28 | vlad_ | hrm, are mw templates case-sensitive? |
| 23:53.33 | Kirkburn | No, I don't see anything at all either |
| 23:53.38 | Kirkburn | Yes |
| 23:53.44 | Kirkburn | Except for the first letter |
| 23:53.52 | vlad_ | ok |
| 23:53.56 | vlad_ | so that's not it |
| 23:54.20 | Zeal | this is another case of a mysterious templates being used when they aren't |
| 23:54.23 | Zeal | not the first time.. |
| 23:54.32 | vlad_ | this is very weird, yeah |
| 23:54.35 | Kirkburn | I cannot see a single reason why all those templates come up |
| 23:54.47 | Kirkburn | Is noinclude broken somehow? |
| 23:54.48 | Zeal | apparently tooltip is being used, but i've checked all includes, it's not. |
| 23:55.05 | Kirkburn | It's even showing Template:Stub/BC ! |
| 23:55.27 | Kirkburn | What type of template is {{common}} |
| 23:55.31 | Zeal | only includes are common and tocright, which would only use the css for common as a sub include. |
| 23:55.35 | Kirkburn | Does it use exists? |
| 23:55.41 | bleetah | omg |
| 23:55.50 | bleetah | i just added myself to an alliance user list on one of my realms |
| 23:55.50 | Karrion | common uses exists |
| 23:55.51 | bleetah | oops |
| 23:56.02 | Zeal | one sec checking.. got a suspision |
| 23:56.20 | Zeal | oh, nad uncommon is used, and one rare |
| 23:56.27 | vlad_ | yeah |
| 23:56.40 | Zeal | ok |
| 23:56.43 | Zeal | uses exist |
| 23:56.50 | Zeal | *exists |
| 23:56.56 | vlad_ | exists? |
| 23:57.12 | Kirkburn | Checks if the page exists |
| 23:57.15 | Zeal | my guess, is the behaviour exists relies on, is not caching properly |
| 23:57.19 | Kirkburn | And styles accordingly |
| 23:57.32 | Zeal | so everything using exists, is being included in everything that uses it. |
| 23:57.36 | Karrion | it almost looks like one of the {{common}}, {{rare}} etc templates is trying to transclude the page instead of just linking it |
| 23:57.43 | Zeal | how it's happening, i don't know |
| 23:57.58 | Zeal | Karrion that's normal. |
| 23:58.35 | Zeal | ok, wait for a slow down. and we should know.. |
| 23:58.35 | Karrion | it is? don't mind me then >.> |
| 23:59.41 | Zeal | removoed/ing exists from common |
| 23:59.48 | Zeal | once the wiki unlocks, should know. |
