| 00:00.34 | Laraul | wrong video there is one big mob |
| 00:00.35 | verxion | there are colors |
| 00:00.35 | verxion | and slow movements of things |
| 00:00.36 | verxion | and now there are sparkles for no apparent reason |
| 00:00.44 | Laraul | are you skipping thru the video? |
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| 00:00.44 | Laraul | you must be |
| 00:00.58 | verxion | nope |
| 00:01.03 | joh | Meh, Baggins was so promising until I discovered how bad it was at stacking optimally |
| 00:01.04 | verxion | it is at 2:42 |
| 00:01.06 | verxion | NOTHING is happening |
| 00:01.11 | verxion | for the last 30 seconds or more |
| 00:01.13 | verxion | nothing of any kind |
| 00:01.18 | Laraul | lol yeah that's right |
| 00:01.22 | verxion | ok, now people are getting up |
| 00:01.23 | Laraul | you are playing it |
| 00:01.37 | verxion | that was hilarious |
| 00:01.39 | verxion | people just sitting down |
| 00:01.42 | verxion | doing nothing of any kind |
| 00:01.45 | verxion | for a LONG time |
| 00:01.52 | Laraul | did you read what we where saying? |
| 00:02.09 | verxion | and now there is a dragon mob |
| 00:02.15 | verxion | and people just standing around |
| 00:02.22 | verxion | is this frigging TURN based?!?!? |
| 00:02.41 | Laraul | lol |
| 00:03.05 | verxion | the action is so slow |
| 00:03.10 | verxion | people just stop doing anything |
| 00:03.15 | verxion | as the entire world pauses |
| 00:03.18 | Laraul | it's a mana burn pt |
| 00:03.22 | Laraul | that's why |
| 00:03.41 | verxion | I think I would be utterly bored out of my MIND in this |
| 00:03.43 | verxion | no action |
| 00:04.46 | Laraul | there are only five of us too |
| 00:05.12 | verxion | well one thing this video convinces me of |
| 00:05.16 | verxion | is I wouldn't like fxii |
| 00:05.20 | verxion | ffxi |
| 00:06.38 | Laraul | this is a more typical battle... i did not record this... and the framerate is bad |
| 00:06.40 | Laraul | http://files.filefront.com/CoP_2_5_Ouryu_Fightavi/;6419678;;/fileinfo.html |
| 00:06.57 | Laraul | but it'll download faster ^^ |
| 00:07.48 | verxion | supper time here |
| 00:07.54 | verxion | I will check it when I get back |
| 00:09.06 | Zeal | what do you mean joh? |
| 00:09.48 | Laraul | huh? |
| 00:17.34 | Zeal | anyways, answered myself on vista thingy |
| 00:17.51 | Laraul | how much RAM do i give to scripts? |
| 00:18.11 | Laraul | Addons |
| 00:18.16 | Zeal | it's more complicated than that, and evne then, microsoft are forcing activation within 29 days through the net, so it's ineffective. |
| 00:19.38 | Zeal | Laraul, who you talking to? :P |
| 00:19.50 | Zeal | me.. i give 256mb iirc 128 maybe.. |
| 00:19.54 | Zeal | dunno really |
| 00:20.04 | Zeal | i increased it once, haven't touched it since. |
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| 00:20.44 | Zeal | only ever had one addon that wanted more, and that addon went bye bye because of it. |
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| 00:21.20 | Laraul | hmmm i gave it 64 |
| 00:23.19 | Laraul | aha found out why some keys were not working |
| 00:23.28 | Zeal | i think mins on 128 |
| 00:23.32 | Zeal | *mines |
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| 00:24.13 | Laraul | what addons do you use? |
| 00:26.38 | Zeal | hm.. one sec |
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| 00:28.24 | Laraul | what's the command to toggle automove? |
| 00:31.20 | Zeal | AF_Tooltip, Atlas (HQ), AtlasBattlegrounds, AtlasDunegonLocs, AtlasFlightPaths, AtlasLoot, AtlasOutdoorRaids, AtlasQuest, BankStatement, bc_AspectMenu, bc_TrackingMenu, Bookworm, CT_ExpenseHistory, CT_MailMod, CT_MasterMod (This is version 1 core, i hate 2), CT_PartyBuffs, CT_RABossMods, CT_RaidAssist, CT_TickMod, CT_UnitFrames, DamageMeters, ElitePlayerFrame, EquipCompare, MozzFullWorldMap, PlayerLinkMenu, PvPLocation (Update |
| 00:32.02 | Zeal | QuestLevel, QuickLootImproved, SellValue (want to use something better, want lootlink back tbh), SystemMessageControlTool, VendorBags |
| 00:32.06 | Zeal | there we go :P |
| 00:32.12 | Zeal | and no idea, lol |
| 00:40.47 | Laraul | what does zf stand for? |
| 00:41.20 | Zeal | Zul'Farrack? |
| 00:41.29 | Zeal | or however it's spelt |
| 00:41.44 | Laraul | where is that? |
| 00:42.20 | Zeal | Tanaris |
| 00:42.29 | Zeal | north west |
| 00:42.42 | Zeal | *of |
| 00:42.51 | Zeal | south east of kalimdor |
| 00:42.58 | Zeal | south west of the world map |
| 00:43.25 | Zeal | south east of the universe map |
| 00:43.26 | Zeal | :p |
| 00:43.52 | Laraul | wow that is a lot of addons... just noticed |
| 00:50.28 | Zeal | lol |
| 00:50.51 | Zeal | well don't forget theres also about 6 default blizz addons |
| 00:51.03 | Zeal | 13 |
| 00:51.05 | Zeal | lol |
| 00:51.09 | Zeal | unlucky number :p |
| 00:55.23 | Zeal | has anyone looked at Blizzard_CombatText code to see if it rips off SCT at all? :S |
| 00:55.37 | Zeal | the fact that it stole the idea period is enough imo, heh. |
| 00:58.05 | Zeal | hm.. .pub? :S |
| 00:58.54 | Zeal | full of..? |
| 01:00.41 | Cairenn|full | Chinese food - took daughter out for her b-day dinner |
| 01:02.01 | winkiller | don't talk of food - I'm so hungry :( |
| 01:02.21 | winkiller | I had my last Whopper 6h ago |
| 01:03.59 | Zeal | i'm eating peppered rump steak and garlic bread atm.. |
| 01:04.02 | Zeal | lol |
| 01:04.57 | Zeal | i do like chinese food, but can't say it's what i'd expect on a bday :P |
| 01:05.36 | Zeal | ooo.. there is a lootlink stil around, someoneelse took it up |
| 01:07.08 | Cairenn|full | Telo's is still updated too |
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| 01:07.45 | Zeal | yes, but he's gone awol as usual |
| 01:07.51 | Zeal | and it's pcked full of bugs |
| 01:07.57 | Zeal | and fairly bloated |
| 01:08.00 | Zeal | *packed |
| 01:08.43 | Zeal | one i found and has and is going through, removing those bugs, reducing memory load, while adding features peolple wanted and correctly updating it for 2.0 and beyond. |
| 01:09.05 | Zeal | *found, has |
| 01:10.36 | Zeal | oo new bufftimers |
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| 01:16.42 | Laraul | wow... snak actually does forground/background colors of different values... |
| 01:17.04 | Laraul | nevermind |
| 01:23.13 | Zeal | O_o |
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| 01:47.37 | Zeal | ok, well i'm off |
| 01:47.38 | Zeal | nn all |
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| 01:52.05 | voidvector | i just changed {{screenshot}} cause tinkerer broke it earlier |
| 01:55.11 | dotted | why define a hard max ram for scripts when you can set it to 0? |
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| 01:56.22 | Kirkburn|afk | I just resurrected a major evil Warcraft character :D |
| 01:56.35 | Fin | why have fixed length data types? |
| 01:56.40 | Kirkburn|afk | Won't say the name, too spoilerific :P |
| 01:56.43 | Fin | Adys? |
| 01:56.49 | Fin | oh |
| 01:56.52 | Fin | and thanks! |
| 01:57.19 | dotted | Kirkburn|afk tell me!111 |
| 02:04.15 | Kirkburn|afk | nevah! |
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| 02:05.18 | Kirkburn|afk | zeal, about your comment on 'ripping off mods' - Blizzard (/Slouken) include code from authors and credit them |
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| 02:08.03 | Kirkburn|afk | Oh WoW PC, now is not the time to do a full checkup :/ |
| 02:25.26 | joh | Any way to dump the memory usage of addons? |
| 02:28.17 | Fin | what, as in how much memory they're using? |
| 02:28.28 | Fin | or what the contents of the memory used by an addon is? |
| 02:29.03 | joh | how much memory they're using |
| 02:29.17 | Fin | not reliably, at the moment |
| 02:29.38 | joh | I.e. I want to find which of my addons are using loads of memory (total they're using ~70MB) |
| 02:29.42 | Fin | they're adding something in the next patch(? soon anyway) that'll fix that though |
| 02:29.49 | joh | Oh ok |
| 02:29.51 | Fin | it's difficult |
| 02:30.03 | joh | Any idea when that will be? The patch? :) |
| 02:30.10 | Fin | dunno, but I hope soon :) |
| 02:30.24 | joh | And what will be added? An easy way to keep track of how much memory each addon uses? |
| 02:30.35 | Fin | have you got any particularly big saved variables files in use by any of your addons? |
| 02:30.38 | Fin | yes |
| 02:30.52 | joh | I'll check... just a sec |
| 02:31.21 | joh | Auctioneer is ofc. the largest |
| 02:31.24 | joh | And LootLink |
| 02:31.37 | Fin | you can try disabling LootLink and using something like Ludwig |
| 02:31.44 | joh | But apart from that, it's pretty low (a couple >250KB) |
| 02:31.51 | Fin | it uses WoW's local item cache instead of a global one |
| 02:31.51 | joh | Ludwig is ..? |
| 02:31.55 | joh | Ah sweet |
| 02:32.13 | Fin | you don't get as much information though, but it's enough for some people |
| 02:32.22 | joh | Got an URL for it? |
| 02:32.37 | Fin | Auctioneer is huge, though... massive... :) |
| 02:32.42 | Fin | check WoWInterface |
| 02:32.47 | joh | I know :) |
| 02:33.21 | joh | But is everything in SavedVariables loaded into memory upon addon load? |
| 02:33.28 | Fin | yes |
| 02:33.31 | Fin | well |
| 02:33.32 | joh | (Sounds quite ineffective tbh) |
| 02:33.33 | Fin | it can be cleared |
| 02:33.41 | Fin | I'm not the world's foremost expert |
| 02:33.51 | joh | Good enough for me :) |
| 02:33.55 | joh | How do you clear it? |
| 02:34.31 | Fin | well, the addons have to free up the memory used by the stuff that's loaded from the saved variables files... but they're not likely too as it's variables saved by the addons themselves |
| 02:35.25 | joh | Ah, I see |
| 02:35.53 | joh | My SavedVariables folder contains only ~12MB though |
| 02:36.01 | joh | And that's including old addons I no longer use. |
| 02:36.04 | Fin | you can assume it is all loaded, yes :) but that does mean that large saved variables don't affect performance as much as lots of little ones or cpu-intensive addons |
| 02:36.24 | joh | Ah ok... |
| 02:37.13 | Fin | best way to really sort it though, is to start from scratch :) see if there's any alternatives to the addons you're using available that are more efficient, and stuff |
| 02:37.47 | joh | Yeah, I think I'll rather wait for the patch that makes debugging this a bit easier :P |
| 02:38.02 | joh | I'm using mostly ace-addons though, and they tend to be quite memory efficient. |
| 02:41.14 | Adys | someone been dingdingdinging me ?>< |
| 02:41.17 | Adys | was afk |
| 02:41.27 | Fin | nah, s'ok Adys |
| 02:41.45 | Adys | hey miranda doesnt save irc history |
| 02:41.57 | Adys | someone said my name, zeal once and another time someone else |
| 02:42.00 | Adys | Argh |
| 02:42.17 | Adys | What the hell. nevermind |
| 02:43.56 | Fin | [03:03:52] <@Kirkburn|afk> I just resurrected a major evil Warcraft character :D |
| 02:43.59 | Fin | [03:04:05] < Fin> why have fixed length data types? |
| 02:44.02 | Fin | [03:04:10] <@Kirkburn|afk> Won't say the name, too spoilerific :P |
| 02:44.04 | Fin | [03:04:13] < Fin> Adys? |
| 02:44.07 | Fin | [03:04:19] < Fin> oh |
| 02:44.22 | Adys | lol |
| 02:45.01 | Fin | for the record, I use ProggySquareBT |
| 02:45.05 | Fin | oops, mistell! |
| 02:45.10 | Fin | first time today, I get let off |
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| 02:58.19 | Montagg | When you're playing Monopoly, and you start to think of the money you have as Stamina, and the properties as DoTs... you're playing your warlock too much. |
| 02:58.37 | cladhaire | haha |
| 02:58.46 | Fin | you play Monopoly? |
| 03:00.32 | Montagg | Oh yes, I play. |
| 03:00.39 | Fin | oh hey, that vim colour test page is awesome, thanks whoever pasted it before |
| 03:00.43 | Fin | bollocks! |
| 03:00.52 | Fin | OK, -5 points to me for another mistell |
| 03:01.15 | Fin | is there an addon for WoW that lest you play in game or something? |
| 03:01.18 | Fin | s> |
| 03:01.39 | Montagg | ./monopoly |
| 03:11.28 | laraul | Is D3D multi-threaded? |
| 03:11.39 | Fin | what's D3D? |
| 03:11.47 | laraul | er Direct3D |
| 03:30.04 | Montagg | By the way, who do we talk to about getting rid of gold selling ads on our Google ads bar? |
| 03:30.44 | kindergip | ubiquitous |
| 03:32.47 | Montagg | An adjective? |
| 03:33.06 | kindergip | yes...not a nick |
| 03:34.17 | kindergip | we were going to be pristine as well but a click is a click and someone else will simply offer them.... |
| 03:34.43 | kindergip | so, we are likely to get into the pay cheat exploit sites and do a couple of stories about that end of the market |
| 03:35.00 | kindergip | oooh....wowdailynews.com |
| 03:35.32 | Montagg | I ask because it's been brought up several times and as much as I'd like to do something about it, I'm not sure how to. |
| 03:35.51 | kindergip | check the google ads policy |
| 03:36.33 | kindergip | should be as slimy as most EULAs |
| 03:39.27 | laraul | p woops |
| 03:39.32 | Montagg | Ah, I see. |
| 03:39.48 | Montagg | It's actually pretty easy to filter individual sites, but not as easy to filter a group. |
| 03:40.39 | kindergip | and the sites change daily in some cases |
| 03:40.43 | Montagg | I take that back. The Competitive Ad filter seems tailored for that use. |
| 03:41.00 | Montagg | Although it requires the person owning our AdSense account to log in and fiddle with things. |
| 03:41.02 | kindergip | where are you reading? |
| 03:41.07 | Montagg | http://google.com/support/adsense/bin/answer.py?answer=21593&topic=154 |
| 03:41.12 | kindergip | tnx |
| 03:42.00 | Montagg | You can filter out individual sites as well. Functionality seems to be all tied to the AdSense account. |
| 03:42.02 | laraul | wow performance in windows is just weird |
| 03:42.22 | Montagg | laraul: You should see it in Linux. =c) |
| 03:42.47 | laraul | under wine? |
| 03:44.06 | Montagg | Wine and with an ATI card, so I stack the deck against myself, but yeah. |
| 03:44.29 | Montagg | Needless to say, I don't do that anymore. |
| 04:10.48 | Kirkburn|afk | Illidan just yelled on my server |
| 04:10.59 | bleetah | Porridge! |
| 04:11.38 | Kirkburn|afk | "Lord Illidan Stormrage yells: So you have defeated the Crimson Sigil." |
| 04:11.45 | Thrae | Kirkburn|afk: You are still not prepared! I will repeat this message until everyone is prepared. When you are prepared, please come to my cave and try to kill me for a chance at [Illidian's Blindfold]. |
| 04:11.48 | Montagg | Niice. |
| 04:11.56 | laraul | does creative still include voice tables? |
| 04:12.37 | Kirkburn|afk | "You now seek to challenge my rule? Not even Arthas could defeat me, yet you dare to even harbor such thoughts? Then I say to you, come! Come [name]! The Black Temple awaits..." |
| 04:13.06 | laraul | ouch my head hurts |
| 04:13.30 | Montagg | Is that Black Temple attunement...? |
| 04:14.00 | Montagg | By the way, who else thinks all robo-chicken distress beacons should be removed from the game? |
| 04:14.43 | bleetah | I think there should be more porridge, and I know Kirkburn|afk agrees |
| 04:14.52 | Kirkburn|afk | http://www.thottbot.com/?s=crimson+sigil |
| 04:15.26 | Kirkburn|afk | Hey, robo chickens ftw |
| 04:15.54 | bleetah | yeah, leave the mech-chooks outta it |
| 04:16.14 | bleetah | er... i meant.. keep 'em in game.. leave 'em outta the discussion |
| 04:17.07 | laraul | does anyone use fraps? |
| 04:17.35 | Kirkburn|afk | not I |
| 04:19.48 | Montagg | Kirkburn|afk: That quest where Illidan yells, you have to kill four waves of Illidan's forces, all elites. Apparently pretty tough. |
| 04:20.16 | Kirkburn|afk | :O |
| 04:21.28 | Kirkburn|afk | I'm doing the Netherwing quests atm |
| 04:25.46 | laraul | kirkburn|afk: you use direct3d or opengl> |
| 04:26.46 | Kirkburn|afk | ? |
| 04:27.10 | Kirkburn|afk | I don't understand |
| 04:27.33 | laraul | you are running WoW? |
| 04:27.40 | Kirkburn|afk | Yes |
| 04:27.52 | Kirkburn|afk | D3D I think |
| 04:28.11 | laraul | Hmm you run in Windowed mode also? |
| 04:28.21 | Kirkburn|afk | Nope |
| 04:28.40 | laraul | does your framerate drop when in windowed mode? |
| 04:29.01 | axxo | it should |
| 04:29.28 | laraul | er now it shouldn't |
| 04:29.32 | laraul | i mean no |
| 04:29.33 | Kirkburn|afk | Slightly, but only very slightly |
| 04:29.45 | laraul | mine drops by a huge amount |
| 04:29.54 | laraul | like 60fps constant to 20 |
| 04:30.17 | Kirkburn|afk | That's way more than it should |
| 04:30.40 | laraul | Yeah under OSX there is no performance hit running in windowed mode... |
| 04:33.13 | Kirkburn|afk | Also depends if it's windowed maximised or not |
| 04:33.52 | laraul | when i run in opengl mode the frame rate caps at 30 |
| 04:34.27 | laraul | opengl runs a whole lost faster under OS X for WoW |
| 04:34.52 | bleetah | OpenGL under wine has no such 30 fps cap |
| 04:35.16 | bleetah | course, you get scheduler foo causing stutters occasionally 'n stuff... |
| 04:35.36 | laraul | it should not be capped |
| 04:36.14 | laraul | i mean it's not capped but the frame rate is 30 fps because of v-sync |
| 04:36.43 | axxo | disable vsync ;p |
| 04:37.13 | laraul | er i prefer it to be on |
| 04:37.27 | axxo | i don't notice a diffrence tbh |
| 04:37.47 | laraul | you would if you ran them side by side |
| 04:39.22 | laraul | obviously you aren't gonna see more fps then your monitor's refresh rate |
| 04:42.13 | laraul | also... the recepters in your eye that detect color and object detail max out at 50-60hz |
| 04:43.47 | laraul | the rececpitors for detecting the amount of light top out between 70-80hz |
| 04:44.45 | laraul | but those receptors don't detect movement |
| 04:47.41 | bleetah | cottleston, cottleston, cottleston pie |
| 04:48.01 | Montagg | This just in: 44 lock beats 47 pally. World explodes. |
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| 05:18.19 | Montagg | Heh, Rage is laying into Anger Ogre pretty thick. I like it. |
| 05:31.21 | Montagg | Question for all the Starcraft fans. |
| 05:31.45 | Montagg | Is it incredibly obvious that Acturus Mengsk is based off of Abaham Lincoln, and I'm just an idiot, or is that common knowledge? |
| 05:47.54 | Kirkburn|afk | Montagg, link, link (for Angry Ogre stuff) |
| 05:48.21 | Montagg | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Naaru |
| 05:51.14 | Kirkburn|afk | There are naaru in Exodar? |
| 05:51.48 | Kirkburn|afk | Ah yes, one |
| 05:52.02 | Montagg | Their faction leader |
| 05:57.27 | Kirkburn|afk | AArrgh, stop editing the bloody page |
| 05:58.11 | Montagg | Don't look at me. =c) I stopped two minutes ago. |
| 05:59.46 | Kirkburn|afk | I had to cope with 4 edit conflicts |
| 05:59.57 | Kirkburn|afk | And I was attempting to move the discussion at the same time |
| 06:00.16 | Kirkburn|afk | I wanted to scream. In fact I did scream, quietly |
| 06:00.23 | Montagg | I ran into that a couple times myself. |
| 06:00.43 | Montagg | While trying to not die in Feralas. |
| 06:01.25 | Kirkburn|afk | lol |
| 06:03.56 | Montagg | It's funny how much his thought process represents the race he has used as his identity. |
| 06:05.13 | Kirkburn|afk | heh |
| 06:11.45 | laraul | i tried another opengl app... no frame cap |
| 06:12.18 | laraul | kick: you know how to start the game in opengl mode? |
| 06:12.30 | laraul | kirkburn|afk, you know how to start the game in opengl mode? |
| 06:12.56 | Kirkburn|afk | -opengl or something? I haven't a clue! |
| 06:13.06 | laraul | well yeah |
| 06:13.56 | Kirkburn|afk | Anyway, I don't see that anyone ever needs more than 30 fps :P |
| 06:17.09 | laraul | true |
| 06:17.18 | laraul | what is your average fps? |
| 06:17.29 | Kirkburn|afk | looow |
| 06:17.36 | Kirkburn|afk | 15-20 |
| 06:18.07 | laraul | what res you run at? |
| 06:18.49 | laraul | 1024x768? |
| 06:19.01 | Kirkburn|afk | 1280x1024 |
| 06:19.34 | laraul | hmm does it run any slower than @ 1024x768? |
| 06:20.15 | Kirkburn|afk | Well, yes, but it's a TFT display, so I run at the native res |
| 06:20.42 | laraul | i see... do you disable the pixal shaders and such? |
| 06:21.16 | Kirkburn|afk | So many questions! :P Nope, most stuff is enabled |
| 06:22.02 | laraul | how old is your computer? |
| 06:22.17 | Kirkburn|afk | 3 years |
| 06:23.22 | laraul | don't try to record a video with fraps ^^ |
| 06:23.31 | Kirkburn|afk | Heh, no |
| 06:24.18 | Kirkburn|afk | 2.8Ghz (old-style) P4, 6800 GT |
| 06:24.39 | laraul | that's almost identical to my old system |
| 06:25.20 | Kirkburn|afk | This is being typed on a Dell Inspiron 9300 though :) |
| 06:25.37 | laraul | hmm... so tomarrow... do i play WoW or FFXI? I've been neglecting FFXI some |
| 06:25.57 | laraul | I need to do a quest to get a map in FFXI |
| 06:27.40 | laraul | i also need to get some currency in the game |
| 06:27.48 | laraul | i am poor... really poor |
| 06:29.38 | Montagg | Hmm. I used opengl and actually saw a performance decrease. Code for Windows must not be as good. |
| 06:30.57 | laraul | when i use opengl in windows i can't select hardware cursor |
| 06:31.11 | laraul | or do you want that off? |
| 06:33.10 | laraul | did you watch lost last wednesday? |
| 06:33.37 | laraul | or am I the only one? |
| 06:34.09 | laraul | two shows you gotta watch... Lost and Battlestar Galatica |
| 06:35.32 | *** join/#wowwiki Adys (n=Miranda@APoitiers-256-1-168-14.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 06:35.41 | laraul | Lost and BattleStar Galatica |
| 06:36.55 | Laraul | Doesn't like xchat make any sounds? |
| 06:40.08 | Montagg | I rarely watch TV. |
| 06:40.31 | Montagg | I want to see Battlestar, but Lost didn't really interest me. |
| 06:40.39 | Laraul | well that's 2hrs a week |
| 06:41.15 | Laraul | you want to? |
| 06:41.27 | Laraul | what's stopping you? |
| 06:43.14 | Laraul | well i'm gonna watch the daily show ^^ |
| 06:49.21 | Montagg | What's stopping me? Dunno. Lost interest a couple years back. |
| 06:49.38 | Montagg | I'll watch the Daily Show if someone else puts it on, but other than that I never actively look for stuff. |
| 06:50.18 | Montagg | Colbert and Stewart are my heroes. |
| 06:57.05 | Laraul | the channel is +c why? |
| 07:01.19 | *** join/#wowwiki Montagg (i=Montag@buic010-e1101-dhcp120.bu.edu) |
| 07:01.20 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+o Montagg] by ChanServ |
| 07:01.36 | Laraul | Montagg: You use macros right? |
| 07:01.42 | Montagg | In IRC? No. |
| 07:01.49 | Laraul | er in wow |
| 07:01.58 | Montagg | Just for emotes. |
| 07:02.27 | *** join/#wowwiki geo- (n=geo@195.34.87.147) |
| 07:02.52 | Laraul | for /emotes? like doing a sequence of them? |
| 07:03.21 | Montagg | No, just so I don't have to type out /lick when someone's ganking me. |
| 07:03.23 | Laraul | What about doing an /emote followed by a spell cast or something? |
| 07:03.44 | Adys | I used to spam it in raids while pullers were slow etc |
| 07:03.44 | Montagg | I've seen people do it, but I don't really. |
| 07:03.57 | Laraul | can't you do /li<tab> ? |
| 07:04.20 | Montagg | Hm. Never tried. |
| 07:04.36 | Adys | laraul: thats an addon i believe |
| 07:04.45 | Laraul | tab completion? |
| 07:04.49 | Laraul | which addon? |
| 07:04.50 | Adys | tab completion doesnt work for normal emotes, tho i gotta say I never tried either |
| 07:04.56 | Fin | there's a module for Prat which lets you add aliases |
| 07:05.06 | Laraul | i don't have prat |
| 07:05.15 | Adys | (you should) |
| 07:05.16 | Adys | :P |
| 07:05.26 | Fin | :) |
| 07:05.33 | Adys | infobot, hug fin |
| 07:05.44 | infobot | ACTION hugs fin |
| 07:05.44 | Montagg | Nope, that's in game. |
| 07:05.44 | Laraul | yeah aliases would be nice |
| 07:05.45 | Montagg | That's cool. I never knew that. |
| 07:05.54 | Laraul | no what? |
| 07:06.00 | Montagg | Tab completion. |
| 07:06.04 | Fin | infobot, botsnack |
| 07:06.04 | infobot | aw, gee, Fin |
| 07:06.09 | Laraul | lol you serious? |
| 07:06.14 | Laraul | how long you been playing? |
| 07:06.19 | Montagg | As long as the game's been out. |
| 07:06.25 | Montagg | Just never tried it. |
| 07:06.25 | Laraul | omigopd |
| 07:06.26 | Adys | seriously, it works? |
| 07:06.35 | Adys | well join the club then |
| 07:06.36 | Fin | yes |
| 07:06.55 | Fin | tab completion just doesn't work for friends and stuff (although there's a mod for Prat that lets you do that, too) |
| 07:06.56 | Adys | playing since two years and never known that >< |
| 07:07.09 | Laraul | that is just... sad sorta |
| 07:07.16 | Fin | nah it's not |
| 07:07.20 | Adys | No! |
| 07:07.33 | Laraul | it's like obvious |
| 07:07.36 | Adys | Else I can ask odd questions too |
| 07:07.39 | Fin | I never knew that a mob's health bar went silver if it was tagged by someone else until about 3 months ago |
| 07:07.43 | Montagg | They never advertise it, really. |
| 07:07.47 | Adys | omfg fin seriously? |
| 07:07.52 | Fin | yeah |
| 07:07.58 | Adys | well THAT is sad |
| 07:08.00 | Montagg | That one's pretty pathetic, since it's.. well, it's right there. =c) |
| 07:08.08 | Laraul | what do you mean tagged? |
| 07:08.09 | Laraul | taken? |
| 07:08.19 | Fin | I don't think so; I just don't notice colours |
| 07:08.37 | Adys | I had some of these moments too |
| 07:09.02 | Laraul | i think it does turn grey... just never paid attention |
| 07:09.15 | Adys | i dont remember the situations |
| 07:09.19 | Adys | let me think.. |
| 07:09.37 | Adys | oh yeah |
| 07:09.55 | Adys | Right clicking a buff, I didnt know it worked until about 4-5 months ago |
| 07:09.59 | Fin | didn't stop me being a good tank :) |
| 07:10.02 | Adys | hrm, maybe more, 6-7 |
| 07:10.34 | Laraul | is there a way to claim a mob in such a way that other players can not attack? |
| 07:10.42 | Adys | banish |
| 07:10.56 | Laraul | banish? |
| 07:11.04 | Adys | Im not sure what you're talking about |
| 07:11.07 | Fin | Adys, have you never done that thing with the engineer's whatsit, the thing that lets you see really far? |
| 07:11.15 | Adys | Yes I have |
| 07:11.21 | Adys | but i thought it worked only for some buffs |
| 07:11.25 | Fin | cos you can only get rid of that by right-clicking the icon |
| 07:11.26 | Fin | ah |
| 07:11.49 | Adys | I didnt know BoK was a talent until testrealms 1.6.0 i believe |
| 07:11.56 | Laraul | k i attack a mob... someone else comes alongs... thinks they can help me out by attacking to... but I don't want him to attack |
| 07:12.02 | Fin | really? huh |
| 07:12.45 | Fin | I would've thought you'd know that cos you'd want that buff during raids |
| 07:12.56 | Laraul | you still earn talent points after reaching the level cap right? |
| 07:13.14 | Adys | was 1.5 testrealms actually |
| 07:13.19 | Adys | fin do you realize when testrealms 1.5.0 were out I was not even 60 ? :P |
| 07:13.20 | Fin | my brain has just frozen |
| 07:13.49 | Fin | Adys: when was that? |
| 07:14.01 | Adys | a few weeks before the battleground release |
| 07:14.07 | Fin | huh |
| 07:14.17 | Adys | Patch 1.5 includes v1.5.0 (June 7, 2005) and v1.5.1 (June 14, 2005). |
| 07:14.20 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/1.5.0 |
| 07:14.27 | Adys | Ooohhhh |
| 07:14.30 | Adys | June 7 2005 |
| 07:14.33 | Adys | that was my birthday! |
| 07:15.24 | geo- | any of you play on linux? |
| 07:15.36 | Fin | no |
| 07:15.42 | Fin | I mean, I don't |
| 07:16.16 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+o Adys] by ChanServ |
| 07:16.34 | Adys | I am sorry fin I couldnt resist |
| 07:16.42 | Adys | infobot, lick Fin. |
| 07:16.54 | infobot | ACTION licks Fin. *SHLUUURRRRPPP* |
| 07:17.13 | Adys | so cute |
| 07:17.47 | Kirkburn|afk | yo |
| 07:17.55 | Adys | heya love |
| 07:18.02 | Kirkburn|afk | hi honey |
| 07:18.17 | Adys | hows this afk going? |
| 07:19.04 | Adys | oh fuck |
| 07:19.07 | Adys | I just noticed |
| 07:19.14 | Adys | the sun is already out where I live |
| 07:19.22 | Adys | and I slept half a hour |
| 07:19.51 | Kirkburn|afk | 7:19am here, so 8:19 there? |
| 07:20.04 | Adys | jepp |
| 07:20.10 | Kirkburn|afk | heh |
| 07:20.16 | Kirkburn|afk | Well I should do something else now too |
| 07:20.21 | Adys | tho I woke up at 21.00 yesterday |
| 07:20.22 | Adys | so no biggy |
| 07:20.28 | Kirkburn|afk | I think I'll try and stay up today, try and get back to a normal routine |
| 07:20.57 | Adys | hehe same here methink |
| 07:21.29 | Adys | Christ |
| 07:21.29 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Popularpages |
| 07:21.38 | Adys | its gonna ding 1 million |
| 07:24.11 | Fin | is that your article, Adys? |
| 07:24.15 | Laraul | i need to figure out how to write macros so i can do more with less keys/buttons |
| 07:24.22 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/Comparison_of_Aldor_and_Scryer_rewards fin |
| 07:24.24 | Kirkburn|afk | Dinging 70 seems meagre in comparison :( |
| 07:24.28 | Adys | lol |
| 07:24.39 | Kirkburn|afk | Main Page (10,499,945 views) |
| 07:24.39 | Kirkburn|afk | Instance guide (1,589,520 views) |
| 07:24.39 | Kirkburn|afk | Naxxramas (1,065,604 views) |
| 07:24.39 | Kirkburn|afk | Comparison of Aldor and Scryer rewards (992,158 views) |
| 07:24.49 | Kirkburn|afk | It'll be 3rd soon enough! |
| 07:25.12 | Adys | instance guide is almost two years old |
| 07:25.19 | *** join/#wowwiki _dok3Dal (n=dok@AStrasbourg-251-1-98-129.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 07:25.31 | Fin | er, yeah, sorry, I figured that out :) (it was the only page close to 1m, and I've heard you talk about it before :) - did you write the Aldor vs. Scryer thing? |
| 07:25.44 | Adys | tekkub has |
| 07:25.46 | Laraul | you could probably get everything you nead done with like number keys and the fkeys which is 22 total |
| 07:25.51 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Comparison_of_Aldor_and_Scryer_rewards&offset=20061225073956&action=history |
| 07:25.58 | Adys | (cur) (last) 20:04, 18 November 2006 Tekkub (Talk | contribs | block) |
| 07:26.00 | Laraul | 22 macros for doing everything you need |
| 07:26.22 | Adys | first edit of the page, thats one million views in less than 3 months |
| 07:27.19 | Adys | assuming the article would have been created the 20th of january 2005 like the instance guide one |
| 07:27.27 | Adys | that would mean it would have been created 25 months ago |
| 07:27.45 | Kirkburn|afk | Almost as popular as the main page |
| 07:28.16 | Adys | that would mean it would have had more than 8 times more edits |
| 07:28.39 | Adys | god |
| 07:28.48 | Laraul | blizzard discloses a lot of information about the game i assume? |
| 07:28.58 | Laraul | like mobs weakness and such |
| 07:29.02 | Adys | what do you mean |
| 07:29.20 | Kirkburn|afk | Nope |
| 07:29.30 | Kirkburn|afk | Players take lots of measurements |
| 07:29.32 | Adys | didnt get the question >< |
| 07:29.46 | Laraul | so everything is trial and error |
| 07:30.04 | Kirkburn|afk | Info such as mobs stats, etc? |
| 07:30.11 | Laraul | yeah |
| 07:30.24 | Kirkburn|afk | Yup, all done by addons measuring it |
| 07:30.29 | Adys | indeed |
| 07:31.11 | Adys | grats Main Page on 10 million views btw |
| 07:31.14 | Kirkburn|afk | Blizzard added a lot more info in-game in 2.0 (e.g. player's critical strike %, stuff like that), but there's no info outside the game that Blizz maintain |
| 07:31.16 | Adys | a bit late |
| 07:31.22 | Kirkburn|afk | woot |
| 07:31.28 | Adys | 10 and half now :P |
| 07:31.37 | Laraul | in FFXI... it's all guesswork |
| 07:31.37 | Kirkburn|afk | I think it's inaccurate anyway - back in August it was only at about 3 million |
| 07:31.54 | Adys | back in december it was 6 million >< |
| 07:32.02 | Adys | or november, whatever |
| 07:32.08 | Kirkburn|afk | Coincidentally, this was when the wiki was upgraded |
| 07:32.17 | Kirkburn|afk | (august) |
| 07:32.29 | Kirkburn|afk | Can't say I've ever played or been interested in FF |
| 07:32.37 | Laraul | SE tells you nothing. And gives you no way of dermineing how strong a mob is |
| 07:32.56 | Laraul | very ambigious |
| 07:33.47 | Kirkburn|afk | I lie, I think I once tried to play an FF game once. The sheer number of menus and numbers and crap have forever put me off. |
| 07:34.13 | Laraul | things like quests... you are given so little information and are supposed to do so much you can't do anything without knowing in advance |
| 07:34.17 | Kirkburn|afk | I'm sure it's changed since then though, but I'm happy with WoW :) |
| 07:34.24 | Kirkburn|afk | Laraul, ouch |
| 07:37.38 | Adys | http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/en/122442783.htm |
| 07:37.39 | Adys | <3 |
| 07:38.07 | Kirkburn|afk | Ommra ftw |
| 07:38.08 | Laraul | I'm planning on doing this quest tommarrow... http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/The_Rescue |
| 07:39.25 | Laraul | actually that quest not so bad |
| 07:39.53 | Laraul | i need to sleep |
| 07:40.02 | Adys | good night then |
| 07:40.06 | Kirkburn|afk | "Tamarrow, tamarrow, I'll lave ya tamarrow." |
| 07:40.19 | Kirkburn|afk | (I had a teacher who spoke like that) |
| 07:40.22 | Adys | sorry? :p |
| 07:40.24 | Kirkburn|afk | G'night Laraul |
| 07:40.24 | Adys | lol |
| 07:41.21 | Laraul | btw don't your chat clients make any sounds? |
| 07:41.31 | Adys | mine does, selectable sounds |
| 07:41.38 | Adys | and it dingdingdings when someone says my name |
| 07:41.39 | Laraul | like when someone says your nick or w/e |
| 07:41.41 | Adys | Miranda, btw |
| 07:41.52 | Adys | infobot, sing! |
| 07:41.54 | infobot | ACTION sings off key Whaohwooaaoooaaah! Good bye 70s! |
| 07:41.54 | Laraul | Your name is Miranda? |
| 07:42.03 | Adys | no, my irc client's name is |
| 07:42.07 | Kirkburn|afk | I don't doubt it, Laraul |
| 07:42.20 | Adys | infobot, slap kirkburn |
| 07:42.21 | infobot | ACTION slaps kirkburn, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 07:42.30 | Kirkburn|afk | Aww, baby, don't be that way |
| 07:42.40 | Adys | sorry sweetheart |
| 07:42.42 | Laraul | kick: Fix that |afk at the end of your nick |
| 07:42.49 | Laraul | er kicklol |
| 07:42.53 | Laraul | kirkburn|afk, Fix that |afk at the end of your nick |
| 07:42.58 | Adys | infobot, give Kirkburn some candy |
| 07:42.59 | infobot | ACTION gives some candy to Kirkburn |
| 07:43.23 | Kirkburn|afk | Mmmm, sweet candy |
| 07:43.35 | Adys | anyone else than me thinks that /who should say the character's gender? |
| 07:43.48 | Kirkburn|afk | Wait, Adys your client's name is Miranda too? Girl on girl action?? |
| 07:43.51 | Laraul | i dunno |
| 07:43.57 | Kirkburn|afk | How could you do this to me! |
| 07:43.59 | Adys | my name is Jerome... |
| 07:44.05 | Kirkburn|afk | And I'm Robson |
| 07:44.06 | Adys | Call me Dje, honey |
| 07:44.16 | Laraul | what does gender have to do with anything? |
| 07:44.22 | Kirkburn|afk | (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robson_and_Jerome) |
| 07:44.29 | Adys | Laraul, right now nothing |
| 07:44.35 | Adys | .... couldnt resist |
| 07:44.40 | Laraul | well in the game |
| 07:44.57 | Laraul | like i give a shit about who a person is in rk |
| 07:44.59 | Laraul | er rl |
| 07:45.14 | Kirkburn|afk | Then I'm a banana split |
| 07:45.18 | Adys | erm gender ig != gender irl :P |
| 07:45.22 | Adys | MANY times |
| 07:45.26 | Kirkburn|afk | Welcome to my fruity lair |
| 07:45.45 | Adys | Woot! |
| 07:46.09 | *** topic/#wowwiki by Kirkburn -> Discuss all wiki issues here! | http://www.wowwiki.com | Channel info: [[ WoWWiki:IRC ]] | RC list: [[ WoWWiki:RC ]] | UI questions? Visit #wowi-lounge | Welcome to my fruity lair! |
| 07:46.51 | Kirkburn | So anyway, I have my client (XChat) beep whenever people say my name |
| 07:47.13 | Adys | Miranda also highlights the line! |
| 07:47.22 | Adys | and lets me choose the sound |
| 07:47.28 | Adys | this dingdingding is quite retardedly annoying btw |
| 07:47.31 | Adys | but Im used to it, so |
| 07:47.45 | Adys | its quite cool, since I use miranda for both msn and irc |
| 07:47.49 | Kirkburn | Well mine serves me an ice-cream sundae every tuesday! |
| 07:48.15 | Adys | awwww |
| 07:48.24 | Adys | btw Im reading http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_1.11_%28Evil_Patch_Notes%29 |
| 07:48.26 | Adys | again |
| 07:48.34 | Adys | every time I laugh more |
| 07:48.35 | Adys | # |
| 07:48.35 | Adys | # Moonwells are now located exclusively inside Blackwing Lair, near the Alchemy Lab. |
| 07:48.46 | Kirkburn | Did you know the iron content of a banana split is higher than that of a welded steel bar? |
| 07:49.24 | Adys | infobot, did you know the iron content of a banana split is higher than that of a welded steel bar? |
| 07:49.35 | infobot | Adys: that's too long |
| 07:50.09 | Kirkburn | Wait, sorry, I meant: Did you know the iron content of a welded steel bar is higher than that of a banana split? |
| 07:50.09 | Kirkburn | It's too easy to mix them up |
| 07:50.09 | Adys | lazy idiot |
| 07:50.09 | Kirkburn | Speaky short sentences you infobot. Yes? |
| 07:50.19 | Adys | haha |
| 07:51.17 | Adys | Above the corpse of Mankirk's wife, a large red arrow will now appear and be viewable for up to 500 yards. To ensure that the associated quest offers some challenge, typing the word 'Mankirk' 'wife' or 'anyone seen' in Barrens chat will now result in experience loss. |
| 07:51.54 | Adys | In order to assist with various upkeep costs, at a designated time NPC vendors will now give players an amount of gold based upon their level. This is currently slated to occur every Tuesday from 6:00 AM to 11:00 AM PST. |
| 07:51.56 | Adys | >< |
| 07:52.04 | Adys | i didnt notice this one |
| 07:52.24 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 07:52.38 | Adys | the best one by far tho |
| 07:52.39 | Adys | Additional grass areas have been added to the enemy faction's zones. This grass is exceptionally green. |
| 07:52.40 | Adys | :) |
| 07:56.32 | Kirkburn | Adys, did you see what Rooster said on #wowi |
| 07:56.50 | Adys | lol |
| 07:56.52 | Adys | just noticed |
| 07:57.01 | Adys | common mistake ye |
| 07:57.02 | Fin | what what what? |
| 07:57.19 | Kirkburn | I suppose it can be |
| 07:57.36 | Adys | messing invisibility with stealth fin |
| 07:57.39 | Kirkburn | "Warlocks have detect invis, so they should be able to throw DoTs on the rogue and let their pet chew on the rogue while the rogue shanks them." |
| 07:58.06 | Kirkburn | If I could see through stealth ... well ... it would make Detect Invis a useful spell at last! |
| 07:58.32 | Adys | meh leftover of the imbalance beetween mages and warlocks back in the beta |
| 07:58.54 | Kirkburn | True |
| 07:59.29 | Adys | im trying to remember awful moments i had when i found out something i should have known since ages |
| 08:01.26 | Adys | ah yes |
| 08:01.36 | Adys | when i found this reagent vendor near the if inn ^^ |
| 08:02.05 | Adys | or the day i noticed the searchbox in the AH was actually useful |
| 08:02.53 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 08:02.58 | Adys | its funny |
| 08:03.03 | Adys | last week a gm annoyed me so much |
| 08:03.06 | Kirkburn | Yeah, I know what you mean |
| 08:03.09 | Kirkburn | Oh yes? |
| 08:03.10 | Adys | I right clicked his name and /ignored him |
| 08:03.14 | Adys | and it worke |
| 08:03.16 | Adys | +d |
| 08:03.28 | Laraul | *&^$&! |
| 08:03.34 | Kirkburn | Bet he was pleased |
| 08:03.45 | Adys | bet he doesnt know what the ignore list is ^^ |
| 08:03.53 | Kirkburn | &^&^%3, Laraul |
| 08:04.08 | Adys | "If you wish to spawn this boss you need to reset the instance" yea foff tbh |
| 08:04.11 | Laraul | I've been up since 4AM and I want some sleep and I'm just can't fall asleep |
| 08:04.21 | Laraul | I have a lot of shit on my brain |
| 08:04.33 | Kirkburn | Though I would probably say &%*&^ fish with the &^$^%$, although the &^%&-banana up her nose in the &^% was a bit odd. |
| 08:05.23 | Kirkburn | Laraul, you are sooo asking for more of my wit ... "a lot of shit on my brain", indeed |
| 08:05.44 | Laraul | I want PILLS! PILLS TO MAKE ME SLEEP! |
| 08:05.57 | Kirkburn | I told you, monkeys aren't supposed to sleep on your head! |
| 08:06.21 | Laraul | hey i can sleep however i want bud |
| 08:06.46 | Kirkburn | Hey, I'm just trying to point out why you have simian poo on your noggin |
| 08:07.34 | Laraul | hmmm... let me find a vase... maybe i can knock myself out... |
| 08:09.16 | Laraul | find a rope rap it around my neck... cut off the blood supply to my brain |
| 08:09.48 | Laraul | course i could end up killing myself :/ |
| 08:10.01 | Laraul | that would be baaaddd |
| 08:11.02 | Kirkburn | Yes. Yes, it would. |
| 08:11.27 | Kirkburn|afk | So like I'm going afk now |
| 08:11.33 | Kirkburn|afk | So, um, bye? |
| 08:11.37 | Laraul | bwahaha found my cat |
| 08:11.43 | Laraul | got something i can torment now |
| 08:11.46 | Kirkburn|afk | Was it also on your head? |
| 08:12.55 | Laraul | i wish we still had a pool... |
| 08:13.24 | Laraul | hanging my cat upside down over the water could be a great stress reliever |
| 08:14.03 | Laraul | heh i love my cat... he's just fun to tease ^^ |
| 08:15.13 | Kirkburn|afk | Yeeees |
| 08:15.26 | Kirkburn|afk | That's definately the impression I'm getting ... |
| 08:15.36 | *** join/#wowwiki dok3Dal (n=dok@AStrasbourg-251-1-98-129.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 08:15.49 | Adys | wtb something to do |
| 08:15.55 | Adys | im dead bored |
| 08:16.11 | Adys | anything special to sort out on the wiki? |
| 08:16.14 | Kirkburn|afk | Oh, sorry, I was just writing down descriptions of people on the channel ... "psychpathic maniac", yup, that seems about right |
| 08:16.36 | Kirkburn|afk | Adys, comments on the new teams |
| 08:16.43 | Adys | meh already done that |
| 08:16.46 | Kirkburn|afk | And check stuff for deletion? |
| 08:16.49 | Kirkburn|afk | Um, sleep? |
| 08:16.55 | Adys | already done that too =P |
| 08:17.02 | Adys | deletion articles... brb |
| 08:17.03 | Kirkburn|afk | Leave me alone I want to do something else why do I keep talking on here I don't know |
| 08:17.26 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Priest&curid=12637&diff=493520&oldid=493167&rcid=404022 |
| 08:17.29 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Foror&curid=18907&diff=493515&oldid=203707&rcid=404017 |
| 08:17.30 | Adys | yawn |
| 08:18.07 | Kirkburn|afk | Adysm oh wow, ingenious stuff :/ |
| 08:18.20 | Adys | im blocking him brb |
| 08:18.37 | Kirkburn|afk | K, see ya later |
| 08:19.15 | Adys | laters |
| 08:24.26 | Laraul | #wowwiki This network blows GOATS! What is with all the retarded limits? To stop spambots? DO YOU SEE ANY SPAMBOTS! SPAMBOTS are a thing of the past! It's not the 1990s anymore! |
| 08:24.58 | Adys | wah?:p |
| 08:30.58 | Adys | know what |
| 08:31.06 | Adys | voidvectorbot totally freaks me out |
| 08:31.08 | Adys | and i mean it |
| 08:48.24 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Mr.X8 |
| 08:50.37 | *** join/#wowwiki RaCailum (n=RMIRC1-5@c-24-19-192-90.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 08:51.42 | RaCailum | hi guys. im having trouble starting a new NPC wiki page. i found an npc not on the wiki i wanted to add. im having trouble just getting it going though. i typed it up with all the coding and boxes it needs links etc, previewed, works seemingly, just cant get it its own wowwiki.com/blabla page |
| 08:52.00 | Adys | What do you mean? |
| 08:52.10 | RaCailum | I want to add a new page, for Dela Runetotem <3 |
| 08:52.15 | RaCailum | npc in silvermoon city |
| 08:52.33 | RaCailum | i already typed it up with the code, based on magatha grimtotems page lol, just replaced the stuff that needs to be replaced |
| 08:52.44 | Adys | try http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Dela_Runetotem&action=edit ? |
| 08:52.56 | RaCailum | i read the info and help stuff but it doesnt give a very clear "CLICK HERE AND GOOOO" link anywhere lol |
| 08:53.09 | RaCailum | ok so like, how did we do that o.o; |
| 08:53.19 | RaCailum | just type http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=whateverthenewpageis? |
| 08:53.20 | Adys | Just type the name of the article in your browser address bar |
| 08:53.29 | RaCailum | o_O o rly? |
| 08:53.30 | RaCailum | ok one sec |
| 08:53.35 | Adys | nah http://www.wowwiki.com/Dela Runetotem |
| 08:53.47 | Adys | then click the link |
| 08:54.05 | RaCailum | ok http://www.wowwiki.com/Dela_Runetotem |
| 08:54.08 | RaCailum | there hows that O.O! |
| 08:54.10 | Adys | yus |
| 08:54.28 | RaCailum | looky, clicky, f5, rephresh pagex00rs |
| 08:54.52 | RaCailum | o.o; *waits for "that sucks"ness* |
| 08:55.21 | Adys | RaCailum: for minor npcs try and use the code of this kind of pages: http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Dela_Runetotem&action=edit |
| 08:55.24 | Adys | errr |
| 08:55.27 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/Belestra |
| 08:55.42 | RaCailum | Hmm.. ok |
| 08:55.55 | RaCailum | Ya I baed it off of Magetha Grimtotem, a full questgiver npc |
| 08:55.56 | RaCailum | x.x |
| 08:55.59 | Adys | the long infobox is for well known/major npcs |
| 08:56.08 | RaCailum | but good for first shot right o.oV? |
| 08:56.40 | Adys | yes no worries about that =) |
| 08:56.44 | RaCailum | :) thanks |
| 08:57.02 | RaCailum | I just didnt quite understand how to make a fresh new link, that i just had to put it in the address box |
| 08:57.04 | RaCailum | cool. |
| 08:57.07 | RaCailum | that's all im done :) |
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| 08:57.51 | Adys | going afk for a bit, laters all |
| 09:03.59 | RaCailum | http://www.wowwiki.com/Dela_Runetotem look better? |
| 09:22.39 | Adys | yus tis perfect |
| 09:48.08 | Laraul | #wowwiki This network blows GOATS! What is with all the retarded limits? To stop spambots? DO YOU SEE ANY SPAMBOTS! SPAMBOTS are a thing of the past! It's not the 1990s anymore! |
| 11:11.07 | Laraul | #wowwiki This network blows GOATS! What is with all the retarded limits? To stop spambots? DO YOU SEE ANY SPAMBOTS! SPAMBOTS are a thing of the past! It's not the 1990s anymore! |
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| 12:34.27 | Laraul | #wowwiki This network blows GOATS! What is with all the retarded limits? To stop spambots? DO YOU SEE ANY SPAMBOTS! SPAMBOTS are a thing of the past! It's not the 1990s anymore! |
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| 13:08.41 | Lutero | the title is normal now |
| 13:08.57 | Lutero | gryphen are you payed to stay here? |
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| 13:57.47 | Laraul | #wowwiki This network blows GOATS! What is with all the retarded limits? To stop spambots? DO YOU SEE ANY SPAMBOTS! SPAMBOTS are a thing of the past! It's not the 1990s anymore! |
| 14:00.55 | axxo | they should really make it illegal to use the internet for 12 year olds |
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| 14:49.26 | voidvector | looks like some kind of corruption to me |
| 14:49.41 | voidvector | cause none of the articles exist |
| 14:50.00 | Tekkub | looks like... erm... chineese or such |
| 14:50.06 | Tekkub | don't think it's japaneese |
| 14:50.34 | voidvector | it renders in japanese, but it's not readable |
| 14:50.43 | Tekkub | ahso |
| 15:21.07 | Laraul | #wowwiki This network blows GOATS! What is with all the retarded limits? To stop spambots? DO YOU SEE ANY SPAMBOTS! SPAMBOTS are a thing of the past! It's not the 1990s anymore! |
| 15:23.46 | winkiller | lol? |
| 15:23.58 | winkiller | what the hell are you talking about. |
| 15:29.24 | axxo | hes been spamming that all day |
| 15:31.00 | axxo | 12 year olds, not much you can do about e |
| 15:32.43 | Fin | there's a few things you can do |
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| 16:03.19 | Montagg | I hate to say it, but I think Yasunori Mitsuda is vaguely emo. |
| 16:03.48 | Montagg | I think you could consider some of his music "celtic emo." |
| 16:04.18 | winkiller | lol |
| 16:04.28 | winkiller | how does that work? |
| 16:05.57 | Montagg | His songs with lyrics tend to be kind of weepy and low key. |
| 16:06.41 | Montagg | I mean one of them is called "Pain." |
| 16:10.20 | winkiller | hehe. but how celtic? |
| 16:10.50 | Montagg | His music is pretty heavily celtic. Lots of bagpipe sounds, flutes and the kind of chord structure you'd expect from Braveheart. |
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| 16:44.27 | Laraul | #wowwiki This network blows GOATS! What is with all the retarded limits? To stop spambots? DO YOU SEE ANY SPAMBOTS! SPAMBOTS are a thing of the past! It's not the 1990s anymore! |
| 16:47.36 | Cairenn | ROFL, yeah, right, no more spam bots ... |
| 16:48.06 | Cairenn | as an admin on multiple sites, I could only friggin' wish there were no more spam bots |
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| 16:55.43 | zeal | already ignored Laraul.. |
| 16:55.44 | zeal | heh |
| 16:56.02 | zeal | Quakenet is crawling with spambots fyi. |
| 16:56.27 | Shadowed | all you need is an email address to know that! |
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| 16:59.02 | Bagginsww | hmm, so night elves believe elune may have created the creatures of outland |
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| 17:42.29 | Fin | I think it's an automated message because his client thinks he might get kicked off for being idle |
| 17:50.32 | Laraul | ugh... i've pulled myself out of bed |
| 18:00.17 | Kirkburn|afk | Laraul, can you not spam "#wowwiki This network blows GOATS! ...", otherwise I will kick you from the channel |
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| 18:00.44 | Laraul | lol k ^^ |
| 18:00.51 | Kirkburn|afk | Thanks :) |
| 18:04.56 | Laraul | lol the john oliver segment on the daily show (2/8) was hilarious! |
| 18:05.22 | Laraul | i agree with the guy Ladies Night is discrimination! ^^ |
| 18:10.48 | kindergip | instead laurel maybe a live webcam url so we know what you are up to |
| 18:11.01 | kindergip | laraul....sigh |
| 18:11.12 | kindergip | fantisizing supergirl |
| 18:12.08 | Laraul | kindergip: that's kinda creepy |
| 18:13.02 | kindergip | you mean you asre not a forty five year old male? |
| 18:13.10 | kindergip | or does it mean that you have shved already |
| 18:13.22 | Kirkburn|afk | New Warcraft book!! http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=1225 |
| 18:13.32 | Kirkburn|afk | "World of Warcraft: Tides of Darkness" |
| 18:13.37 | Kirkburn|afk | Bagginsww, ! |
| 18:13.49 | Laraul | You think I'm 45 lol... |
| 18:13.54 | Laraul | Your aiming to low ^^ |
| 18:14.55 | kindergip | male? |
| 18:15.58 | kindergip | okay...ob self promotion |
| 18:16.06 | kindergip | wowdailynews.com |
| 18:16.25 | kindergip | gotta go for sat morning club breakfast |
| 18:16.33 | kindergip | bbl |
| 18:25.51 | Montagg | Anyone read Starcraft: Queen of Blades? |
| 18:26.49 | Montagg | And if so, was it any good? |
| 18:27.41 | Bagginsww | hey kirk |
| 18:28.14 | Kirkburn|afk | Hulloo |
| 18:29.08 | Kirkburn|afk | http://www.wowwiki.com/Tides_of_Darkness :) |
| 18:35.31 | MeStinkBAD | There I'll just stick with this nick for a while |
| 18:35.40 | Bagginsww | almost 70 |
| 18:35.50 | MeStinkBAD | Cuz I regret ever using the name Laraul |
| 18:35.54 | Bagginsww | hmm warcraft 2 novel interesting |
| 18:36.21 | MeStinkBAD | <--- Name I came up with when I played Warcraft 2 ^^ |
| 18:37.15 | MeStinkBAD | This was my "online" name for nine years |
| 18:37.15 | MeStinkBAD | Then FFXI came out and fuked everything up |
| 18:38.20 | Kirkburn|afk | MeStinkBAD, was your online name for nine years?! |
| 18:38.36 | MeStinkBAD | yeah |
| 18:38.53 | MeStinkBAD | I wanted a name that poked fun at myself |
| 18:40.33 | MeStinkBAD | Heh the word "n00b" hadn't been invented yet back then |
| 18:44.44 | Kirkburn|afk | lol |
| 18:44.52 | Kirkburn|afk | Bagginsww, indeed :) |
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| 18:48.43 | Kirkburn|afk | This page needs some SERIOUS love: http://www.wowwiki.com/Maps |
| 18:51.34 | MeStinkBAD | i have 10MB free on my xbox |
| 18:59.47 | MeStinkBAD | Damn... I'm in need of a swift kick in the ass to get moving |
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| 19:22.21 | Kirkburn|afk | Mucho bettero :) http://www.wowwiki.com/Maps |
| 19:29.37 | winkiller | nice one, yeah. |
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| 19:33.03 | Kirkburn|afk | Hey Adys |
| 19:33.13 | Adys | alo |
| 19:33.34 | Adys | im still afk atm ill be back in a bit |
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| 19:57.53 | MeStinkBAD | should be midnight in japan in a few minutes... i think |
| 19:57.59 | MeStinkBAD | proabably wrong |
| 20:13.04 | Kirkburn|afk | Ugh, Angry Ogre just riles me up: http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Naaru#Naaru_don.27t_give_a_damn_about_horde |
| 20:13.04 | Montagg | Kirkburn|afk: The tables in Maps seem like they have some room to grow to the side. Think thumbnails for the individual zones would be overkill? |
| 20:13.09 | Kirkburn|afk | Montagg, yes, I think it would be overkill. There's a lot of zones :P |
| 20:13.17 | Kirkburn|afk | It could be prettied up and spaced out though |
| 20:13.57 | Kirkburn|afk | I mean, each zone already has the maps on |
| 20:15.37 | Montagg | Prettied up and spaced out, definitely. I'll have to come back to that sometime. |
| 20:17.24 | Montagg | Looks like you're the bad cop, Kirkburn|afk. |
| 20:17.35 | Kirkburn|afk | Heh |
| 20:17.46 | sancus | you guys are way too tolerant |
| 20:17.49 | Kirkburn|afk | Seriously though, does he have the IQ of a goat? |
| 20:18.00 | Kirkburn|afk | He's not a vandal :/ |
| 20:18.11 | Kirkburn|afk | Just an ignorant fool |
| 20:18.18 | sancus | See above about too tolerant. |
| 20:18.45 | Kirkburn|afk | hehe |
| 20:18.51 | Montagg | I think it'd be a little tyrannical to ban people for stupidity. |
| 20:18.53 | Kirkburn|afk | I added a bit more to my post |
| 20:19.19 | Kirkburn|afk | Lol, I just noticed, he missed out point 7. on his list |
| 20:19.30 | Montagg | Owned. |
| 20:19.38 | Kirkburn|afk | I mean, comments like "8.Alliance get exclusive pets and better quests". Wtf? |
| 20:20.06 | Montagg | I don't know... I personally think Horde is better for leveling, but I have no real experience with Alliance territories. |
| 20:20.12 | Montagg | But the exclusive pets? |
| 20:20.17 | Montagg | I don't think he's playing the same game as we are. |
| 20:20.35 | sancus | horde is better for levelling |
| 20:20.45 | MeStinkBAD | hey i'm just wondering... how big is your guys music library? I was just talking to some person and he's telling me he has a terabyte of mp3s and i don't see how someone could have that much music |
| 20:20.54 | Kirkburn|afk | Night elves are awful for levelling, imo |
| 20:21.01 | Shadowed | Night elves are pretty nice |
| 20:21.15 | Kirkburn|afk | I hate their starting areas! |
| 20:21.15 | Montagg | Yeah. That's the problem. I've always rolled a night elf when going Alliance... Sucks. |
| 20:21.16 | MeStinkBAD | uh oh i'm a night elve |
| 20:21.26 | Kirkburn|afk | Elwynn Forest ftw |
| 20:21.34 | sancus | factions are pretty balanced now |
| 20:21.38 | sancus | mostly because they're uh, basically the same |
| 20:21.43 | Kirkburn|afk | MeStinkBAD, I'm at about 100GB, I guess |
| 20:21.45 | Montagg | However, I definitely think the blood elf area is THE best leveling area in the whole game at the moment. |
| 20:21.51 | sancus | fuck, in outland, 90% of the quests are shared anyhow |
| 20:22.05 | Kirkburn|afk | Alliance don't get a visit from Thrall though ^^ |
| 20:22.09 | Shadowed | Dreanei have a very good leveling area, you can basically do 1-20 in it |
| 20:22.19 | MeStinkBAD | didn't there used to me no cooldown time for switching between forms as a druid? |
| 20:22.20 | sancus | that's because alliance lore fucking sucks and is stupid compared to horde lore :P |
| 20:22.27 | Montagg | Same with blood elves, but it's prettier. |
| 20:22.33 | Montagg | AND darker, at the same time. |
| 20:22.48 | Kirkburn|afk | sancus, heh, I tend to agree |
| 20:22.48 | MeStinkBAD | why does everyone wanna be horde? |
| 20:22.49 | Hobinheim|work | 1-20 in a starting area... it's almost as if they designed it for that |
| 20:22.52 | sancus | also because Furor wrote that quest line |
| 20:23.00 | sancus | and he's good at writing storylines |
| 20:23.00 | Kirkburn|afk | Hobinheim|work, >_< |
| 20:23.04 | sancus | if not very good at making quests |
| 20:23.29 | MeStinkBAD | kirkburn|afk, My music library still fits on my 20GB ipod. And I have like 10 days worth of playing time |
| 20:23.30 | Montagg | A big chunk of the Alliance history wasn't even visited until BC, though. |
| 20:23.35 | Kirkburn|afk | MeStinkBAD, yes, they added it to prevent people from accidentely switching out again when mashing the button |
| 20:23.43 | Montagg | The whole Alliance Expedition is by far one of the coolest plot lines in WoW. |
| 20:23.47 | Hobinheim|work | i love how the blood elfs mind control all the descenters (?) |
| 20:23.59 | Shadowed | Outlands was done very well compared to the old 1-60 areas however |
| 20:24.19 | Kirkburn|afk | I can't work out how to argue with Angry Ogre ... you try and tell him something, but he goes off and rails about something else instead |
| 20:24.22 | sancus | there's probably a macro that lets you instantly switch druid forms the same way as the old way now |
| 20:24.32 | sancus | same as with ice block |
| 20:24.47 | Kirkburn|afk | Then he accuses people of saying things they didn't, and pretends that his points are infallible |
| 20:24.58 | MeStinkBAD | i don't see how you can get around the cooldown time |
| 20:25.01 | Shadowed | WAs that the macro that abuses stopcast to make it instant cast? |
| 20:25.12 | Shadowed | Kirkburn|afk sounds to me like you have a case of the trolls |
| 20:25.20 | sancus | cancel aura |
| 20:25.26 | Kirkburn|afk | "Idiots", you mean |
| 20:25.30 | Montagg | Make a template. Have it say, "I'm sorry, but your arguments fail to match the criteria needed to gain credibility anywhere in WoWWiki. Please try back later" and use it over and over again. |
| 20:25.32 | Shadowed | yes |
| 20:25.45 | MeStinkBAD | how would you alter cooldown time? by altering equipment or something that resets the timer? |
| 20:25.51 | Kirkburn|afk | Montagg, was it you who pointed out how accurate his name was? |
| 20:25.59 | Montagg | Last night? Yeah. =c) |
| 20:26.28 | Kirkburn|afk | I recall something about it MeStinkBAD - #wowi-lounge people might be able to help you with a definitive answer |
| 20:26.45 | MeStinkBAD | lol i'm not that interested |
| 20:27.05 | Montagg | I stopped arguing his points directly. It just gives him ammo, something to respond to. |
| 20:27.10 | Shadowed | So I take it nobody minds if I go through and revamp a bunch of the event information? |
| 20:27.21 | sancus | Shadowed: It's not an abuse either, slouken suggested it initially on the beta boards :P |
| 20:27.37 | Shadowed | sancus: To be able to use iceblock without global cooldowns? |
| 20:27.40 | sancus | yes |
| 20:27.54 | sancus | not use it, cancel it |
| 20:28.01 | sancus | you can't use it without global cooldown |
| 20:28.10 | Shadowed | oh cancel, I know one of our mages was talking about a way to use IB without the global cooldown but I never figured out how |
| 20:28.14 | sancus | you can't |
| 20:28.19 | MeStinkBAD | i learned long time ago not to have a debate with another individual in a forum ^^ |
| 20:28.20 | sancus | there is no way, he was making things up |
| 20:28.34 | Shadowed | he died less on that naxx run, so I believe him :p |
| 20:28.44 | sancus | that's a pretty poor reason :p |
| 20:29.06 | Shadowed | not when he dies 7-8 during a naxx clear! |
| 20:29.08 | sancus | I wouldn't listen to any Mage who was ice specced in Naxx. |
| 20:29.21 | Shadowed | *starts AEing*, Mage has died. !#$!#$!#$! ICEBLOCK |
| 20:29.23 | sancus | talk about not knowing anything about your class |
| 20:29.36 | sancus | heh |
| 20:29.51 | sancus | You're supposed to have tanks aoe taunt the spiders :P |
| 20:29.53 | Shadowed | frost damage is actually a lot better in 2.0 then it was before |
| 20:30.04 | Shadowed | you don't always have tanks to AE taunt the spiders if you're moving fast enough |
| 20:30.11 | sancus | sure you do |
| 20:30.17 | Montagg | MeStinkBAD: Usually the purpose of those debates is simply to force the person into a situation where they sound like an idiot, so no one ELSE will listen to them. Once that's accomplished, the debate's done. |
| 20:30.17 | sancus | bears can aoe taunt |
| 20:30.26 | MeStinkBAD | when i first started... people would send me money for free... i miss those days ^^ |
| 20:30.34 | Shadowed | our druids are healers :p |
| 20:30.39 | sancus | so? |
| 20:30.49 | sancus | they can still enter bear form, and those things do minimal damage |
| 20:30.56 | Shadowed | uhhh no they don't |
| 20:31.01 | Shadowed | they hit pretty hard with all of them on you |
| 20:31.17 | sancus | They probably do less damage on a poorly geared bear than on a warrior :P |
| 20:31.20 | MeStinkBAD | i remember being told druids were good tanks... that was long time ago... has that changed? |
| 20:31.37 | sancus | they are good tanks, if they're specced for it |
| 20:31.40 | Shadowed | Maybe now they would |
| 20:31.48 | MeStinkBAD | actually i was told they were good at alot of things... tanking healing buffing... |
| 20:31.49 | sancus | I'm talking about before 2.0 |
| 20:31.53 | sancus | we used to have our healer druids aoe taunt the spiders |
| 20:31.56 | sancus | it worked fine |
| 20:31.56 | Montagg | A feral druid in my guild was the first to break 10,000 HP. |
| 20:32.00 | Montagg | They're probably pretty good. |
| 20:32.05 | Shadowed | I also like watching mages die! |
| 20:32.07 | sancus | no idea why you would assume that a bear can't tank that |
| 20:32.11 | sancus | just cuz he's healer specced |
| 20:32.17 | Shadowed | ever gets old |
| 20:32.24 | sancus | Good mages didn't die there, anyway |
| 20:32.32 | sancus | Because they had Fetish of the Sand Reaver, and used it :P |
| 20:32.39 | bleetah | Kirkburn|afk: that better be warm monkey poo! |
| 20:32.51 | Shadowed | not if they use it in another pull |
| 20:32.52 | Kirkburn|afk | Straight outta tha freeza |
| 20:32.56 | Shadowed | or not if tanks get resists on mobs |
| 20:32.56 | MeStinkBAD | oh i have a macro question? |
| 20:33.05 | Kirkburn|afk | Are you sure? You sound unsure ... |
| 20:33.06 | bleetah | sicko |
| 20:33.21 | sancus | Most of the time warlocks will take aggro before mages because warlocks don't have 40% threat reduction on their aoe, and their aoe is higher dps |
| 20:33.27 | MeStinkBAD | crap i don't remember spell names... lol |
| 20:33.33 | sancus | So mages really only die if warlocks die first and/or are afk |
| 20:33.57 | Kirkburn|afk | But we get soulshatter at least, finally |
| 20:33.58 | Shadowed | well thats why your warlocks don't go all out to start with |
| 20:34.13 | sancus | you really can't "not go all out" |
| 20:34.31 | sancus | it's a channeled aoe, heh |
| 20:34.39 | sancus | unless they don't use hellfire |
| 20:34.41 | sancus | in which case they're pussies! |
| 20:34.43 | Shadowed | cancel it mid way, don't use hellfire |
| 20:34.46 | Shadowed | ect :p |
| 20:34.47 | Kirkburn|afk | Against bosses I feel okay going on a rampage, cause I know I can click soulshatter if it all goes awry :) |
| 20:34.52 | sancus | if warlocks didnt use hellfire there |
| 20:34.56 | sancus | I wouldn't cast arcane explosion, either :p |
| 20:35.02 | sancus | and basically nothing would die! |
| 20:35.08 | MeStinkBAD | i'll tell you why i left! it's cuz there's so much to learn and i don't wanna spend the time... |
| 20:35.23 | sancus | The proper way to do those pulls is to have all your aoers go all out so that it dies asap |
| 20:36.00 | sancus | oh, and frost damage didn't really go up in 2.0 |
| 20:36.02 | sancus | fire just got nerfed into shit |
| 20:36.04 | Shadowed | uh yes it did |
| 20:36.07 | Shadowed | get better mages |
| 20:36.13 | sancus | No, it didn't. |
| 20:36.22 | Kirkburn|afk | I've had 15 Vista updates so far :O |
| 20:36.28 | Shadowed | for naxx> it did |
| 20:36.31 | sancus | no it didn't |
| 20:36.40 | sancus | why do you think it has something to do with how good your mages are |
| 20:36.45 | sancus | um |
| 20:36.49 | sancus | why would you copy and paste nonsense? |
| 20:36.50 | amro`afk | "To view and print the agreements, click each link and print a copy of each agreement." |
| 20:37.01 | MeStinkBAD | ugh they put a cap on talent points! nooo! |
| 20:37.05 | sancus | Fire got mathematically more damage multipliers in 2.0 than Frost did, so I don't know why you would repeat factually false things. |
| 20:37.06 | amro`afk | oh wow, thanks for holding my hand there microsoft |
| 20:37.10 | Kirkburn|afk | amro`afk, heh |
| 20:37.32 | Shadowed | I never said frost was beating fire, I said frost damage went up |
| 20:37.48 | MeStinkBAD | i have so many questions! |
| 20:38.01 | amro`afk | they talk too much when its not needed, and when something crashes they don't even tell you whats wrong =( |
| 20:38.01 | Kirkburn|afk | A cap on talent points?? |
| 20:38.11 | MeStinkBAD | you are limited to 61 |
| 20:38.31 | Shadowed | well yeah |
| 20:38.33 | Kirkburn|afk | I, uh, I .... don't know what to say? |
| 20:38.42 | Shadowed | the max level is 70, which gives you 61 points to spend :p |
| 20:39.18 | MeStinkBAD | can you max out every talent with those 61 points? |
| 20:39.27 | MeStinkBAD | I dont's think so but maybe i'm wrong |
| 20:39.33 | sancus | Frost damage went up, but Fire went up about twice as much, so it's really still no contest |
| 20:39.36 | Shadowed | o you cannot |
| 20:39.40 | Shadowed | no* |
| 20:39.40 | sancus | frost damage is terrible even at 70, it's truly sad :/ |
| 20:39.44 | Shadowed | sancus not in pvp |
| 20:39.47 | Kirkburn|afk | MeStinkBAD, you played WoW before, did you not ... |
| 20:39.50 | Shadowed | frost is overpowered to the point of stupidity |
| 20:39.50 | sancus | ??? |
| 20:39.53 | sancus | either you raid or you pvp |
| 20:39.56 | MeStinkBAD | lol yes |
| 20:39.57 | sancus | the two are incompatible, entirely |
| 20:39.59 | Shadowed | actually I do both |
| 20:40.04 | Shadowed | warriors are fun :p |
| 20:40.09 | Kirkburn|afk | Your questions worry me, that's all :P |
| 20:40.10 | sancus | You can't reasonably spec for both |
| 20:40.15 | sancus | certainly not as a mage |
| 20:40.23 | sancus | unfortunately |
| 20:40.32 | sancus | That's why the 1 copper respecs in beta were the best ever :p |
| 20:40.42 | sancus | frost isn't stupidly overpowered either |
| 20:40.45 | sancus | you're just a warrior :P |
| 20:40.50 | MeStinkBAD | okay not comparing mmos... but in FFXI even after getting a job to level 75 (the cap) you can still earn limit points to upgade abilities and such |
| 20:41.11 | Kirkburn|afk | Ah, not so in WoW |
| 20:41.24 | Kirkburn|afk | After 70 it's all gear gear gear |
| 20:41.29 | MeStinkBAD | lol |
| 20:41.34 | sancus | given that MS fucking stacks, there's a pretty good argument that warriors are overpowered to the point of stupidity in pvp, too |
| 20:41.43 | Shadowed | sancus uh no |
| 20:41.54 | MeStinkBAD | why did it take Blizzard so damn long to raise the cap? |
| 20:42.07 | sancus | you'd disagree if you saw 800 gheals from two MSes |
| 20:42.08 | Shadowed | when a mage can freeze you and then hit you for roughly 1.5k-2k with an instant cast/low mana spell, that is overpowered in pvp |
| 20:42.11 | MeStinkBAD | I remember when it first came out they said they had plans to increase the cap |
| 20:42.12 | amro`afk | because they were releasing endgame content for 60 |
| 20:42.13 | sancus | no it's not |
| 20:42.14 | Kirkburn|afk | They're perfectionists, and somewhat new at making MMOs :P |
| 20:42.22 | sancus | It only seems overpowered to you because you're a warrior |
| 20:42.25 | Shadowed | ...no |
| 20:42.27 | sancus | and you don't have an easy way to get out of freeze |
| 20:42.30 | sancus | every other class does |
| 20:42.31 | amro`afk | they /were/ perfectionists =P |
| 20:42.41 | sancus | warriors aren't supposed to be able to hurt frost mages |
| 20:42.42 | Kirkburn|afk | MeStinkBAD, they're planning a new expansion (+10 to level cap) once a year now |
| 20:42.45 | sancus | they're just supposed to autodie when they face them |
| 20:42.46 | sancus | basically |
| 20:42.58 | MeStinkBAD | After level 60 does the experiance spread between levels start increasing by huge amounts? |
| 20:43.05 | sancus | If you think Ice Lance is overpowered, you aren't paying attention :P |
| 20:43.22 | sancus | It's a pretty funny common warrior whine, though |
| 20:43.27 | Kirkburn|afk | MeStinkBAD, not by a huge amount |
| 20:43.34 | Shadowed | i've played a Druid, Priest, Rogue and Warrior in pvp for lengths of time, and I'll still say mages are overpowered after playing any of those |
| 20:43.49 | sancus | A good druid would never lose to a mage, least of all a frost mage |
| 20:44.03 | Shadowed | I never said i was playing a feral druid did i! |
| 20:44.08 | sancus | it doesnt matter? |
| 20:44.20 | Shadowed | well I can't heal a mage to death i'm pretty sure |
| 20:44.32 | sancus | I dont think you understand druids |
| 20:44.40 | MeStinkBAD | doesn't race have an effect on abtributes? |
| 20:44.50 | sancus | just because you're specced to do one thing, doesn't mean you can't use the other two capabilities of the class, they're just not AS effective. |
| 20:44.53 | MeStinkBAD | no i don't understand much at this point |
| 20:44.53 | amro`afk | insignificant effect |
| 20:45.03 | Shadowed | not enough to do much to a mage |
| 20:45.06 | sancus | ??? |
| 20:45.20 | sancus | you can't be frozen, which means a frost mage has pathetic damage dealing capability against you |
| 20:45.26 | sancus | mages can't heal themselves, all you really need to do is outlast |
| 20:45.38 | MeStinkBAD | honestly... even though i don't know shit... i know enough not to say "one class is always gonna be better than another" |
| 20:45.43 | Shadowed | you *can* be frozen |
| 20:45.57 | sancus | and then shift out of it instantly? sure |
| 20:46.07 | Shadowed | i'm fairly sure you cannot spam shift without a GCD |
| 20:46.19 | MeStinkBAD | lol |
| 20:46.21 | sancus | The global cooldown on forms is not shared between other forms. |
| 20:46.37 | amro`afk | did they reduce the mana cost for shifting? |
| 20:46.38 | MeStinkBAD | you aren't gonna agree come on |
| 20:46.39 | Shadowed | was this changed recently? |
| 20:46.46 | amro`afk | you're not going to beat me if you shift too mich |
| 20:46.49 | amro`afk | much* |
| 20:46.55 | amro`afk | ive got a ton of stamina for a mage =) |
| 20:46.55 | sancus | you don't need to shift that much |
| 20:46.59 | amro`afk | oh yes you do |
| 20:47.04 | amro`afk | if you dont want to be frozen |
| 20:47.04 | sancus | All freezes are on cooldown |
| 20:47.10 | sancus | a pretty long cooldown |
| 20:47.12 | amro`afk | no |
| 20:47.15 | sancus | except frostbite, which is luck based |
| 20:47.25 | sancus | and besides, good luck using casting spells against a decent druid |
| 20:47.26 | amro`afk | yeah, it procs pretty often |
| 20:47.26 | Shadowed | 21s with frost talents, frostbite fully talented I believe is 15% or was it 35%? |
| 20:47.28 | sancus | fucking feral charge and stuns |
| 20:47.36 | Shadowed | CS is even worst |
| 20:47.43 | Shadowed | screws over a shadow priest pretty easly |
| 20:47.43 | sancus | CS is the hole card |
| 20:47.48 | sancus | it's basically what'll give you a chance to win |
| 20:47.50 | amro`afk | feral charge is trainable now? |
| 20:47.51 | Shadowed | CS was fine when it was back on the GCD |
| 20:47.59 | MeStinkBAD | damn i hate abreviations ^^ |
| 20:48.41 | sancus | no, but I cant imagine a half decent pvp druid without feral charge, that's like a pvp mage without ice block |
| 20:48.42 | sancus | walking gimp |
| 20:48.59 | amro`afk | right but you said decent druid, not pvp druid =) |
| 20:49.08 | amro`afk | well im out, have fun everyone |
| 20:49.19 | MeStinkBAD | hmm do admins ever make themselves visable? |
| 20:49.32 | Shadowed | once i stop dying to mana wraiths |
| 20:49.46 | sancus | Frost Mages are just the only viable pvp mage spec |
| 20:50.11 | sancus | a lot of people aren't geared for pvp either |
| 20:50.22 | Shadowed | arcane/fire isn't bad for burst in pvp |
| 20:50.25 | sancus | ice lance scales terribly poorly, if you have no resilience and have less than 8k hp |
| 20:50.29 | sancus | then of course you're going to have issues |
| 20:50.42 | sancus | arcane/fire is only good against people who have bad gear |
| 20:51.04 | Shadowed | not really, burst damage is helpful in pvp at times |
| 20:51.07 | sancus | if your target has 10k hp, which is basically what I'd consider the minimum for anyone who isnt a mage |
| 20:51.10 | Shadowed | being able to get someone to 20-30% can help a lot |
| 20:51.12 | sancus | you don't have enough burst to kill anyone before they get healed |
| 20:51.21 | sancus | even 20-30% is a stretch |
| 20:51.24 | sancus | especially if pyro doesn't crit |
| 20:51.27 | sancus | which it doesnt most of the time |
| 20:51.57 | sancus | fire is ap retty good disorganized pvp spec, though, sure |
| 20:52.08 | sancus | if you can sit behind the lines in a bg or somethign and snipe people, gogo |
| 20:52.18 | sancus | but in arena good luck with that :/ |
| 20:52.34 | sancus | you'll be lucky if you get a single fireball off in the entire arena season |
| 20:52.37 | Shadowed | depends what bracket and what class you're luck |
| 20:52.45 | Shadowed | luck = with |
| 20:53.04 | sancus | Arena pvp is about abusing los and spamming instant casts :P |
| 20:53.21 | sancus | oh, and msing the shit out of the healer so you can kill them |
| 20:53.57 | Shadowed | depends completely on the bracket and class combos |
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| 20:54.43 | Shadowed | Paladin will be kings in arenas though |
| 20:54.50 | Shadowed | paladins even! |
| 20:56.11 | sancus | I dont think so, no |
| 20:56.21 | sancus | paladins have bubble which is nice, but when they're not in bubble they can't really heal anybody |
| 20:56.23 | Shadowed | a well played paladin never dies |
| 20:56.27 | Shadowed | uhh |
| 20:56.32 | Shadowed | you've never grouped with a good pvp paladin then |
| 20:56.43 | sancus | its funny how you immediately jump to "BUT ITS OK IF THE PLAYER IS GOOD" |
| 20:56.59 | sancus | their only good heal is 2.5s cast, which is easily interrupted, and an interrupted paladin can't cast anything, including bubble |
| 20:57.11 | Shadowed | Because Paladins are a hard to play class and people rarely play them in a way that makes it effective in PVP? |
| 20:57.12 | sancus | Priests have an instant cast very powerful heal now |
| 20:57.15 | sancus | and they also have PW:S |
| 20:57.22 | sancus | those two things are big advantages |
| 20:57.46 | Shadowed | Priests are good healers until people see them, but it's fairly easy to lock them down depending what bracket you're playing in |
| 20:57.57 | sancus | it's easier to lock a paladin down than a priest |
| 20:58.03 | Shadowed | not true |
| 20:58.11 | sancus | paladins require casting time spells to heal anyone |
| 20:58.13 | sancus | priests do not |
| 20:58.35 | Shadowed | circle of mending? |
| 20:58.43 | sancus | no, prayer of mending |
| 20:58.55 | Shadowed | er prayer |
| 20:59.10 | sancus | it's ridiculously uber |
| 20:59.15 | Shadowed | you can't rely on that spell always being on the player or that it's enough |
| 20:59.27 | sancus | you can have multiple prayer of mendings up at the same time |
| 20:59.32 | sancus | as long as they have a different number of charges |
| 20:59.40 | sancus | and it's pretty spammable |
| 20:59.52 | Shadowed | as I said, it comes completely down to the bracket, in 2vs2 or 3vs3 then survivability wont matter a whole lot |
| 20:59.53 | sancus | you dont use it like a buff, you use it like an instant cast heal |
| 21:00.02 | Shadowed | no...you use it like a HOT |
| 21:00.09 | sancus | it's not a hot |
| 21:00.11 | Shadowed | last I checked they have to be hit for the heal to cast on them? |
| 21:00.28 | sancus | Yes, so if someone, or you, comes under attack |
| 21:00.30 | sancus | you spam it on them |
| 21:00.49 | sancus | it's extremely hard to kill anyone who's getting that |
| 21:00.52 | sancus | and cant interrupt it |
| 21:01.08 | Shadowed | wont do much if you end up with a team of 3-5 all focusing on you |
| 21:02.02 | Shadowed | Priests are good healers until they are noticed, locking them down isn't very hard if you don't have a team with other ways of supporting you with a class like a Paladin and BOP |
| 21:03.41 | Hobinheim | priests are always treated like crap |
| 21:04.00 | Shadowed | i've played and pvp healed as a priest with all specs =/ |
| 21:04.03 | Hobinheim | people blame priests for not healing well enough but all of a sudden they can't be blamed for not dpsing well enough |
| 21:05.06 | sancus | I can't imagine anyone killing a priest who can cast PoM |
| 21:05.06 | sancus | no matter how many people you have focused on them |
| 21:05.06 | Hobinheim | presence of mind? |
| 21:05.06 | sancus | unless they are MSed |
| 21:05.06 | sancus | no, prayer of mending |
| 21:05.07 | sancus | MS is the I-win button of 5v5 arena, for sure, can't do anything without it |
| 21:05.39 | Shadowed | I'll repeat what i've said before |
| 21:05.43 | sancus | you'll have 9-10k hp, and prob 100 resilience |
| 21:05.45 | Shadowed | [53:27] <Shadowed> depends completely on the bracket and class combos |
| 21:05.53 | sancus | not to mention 4k armor |
| 21:06.28 | sancus | well there's only a few optimal class combos for the lower brackets, and 5v5 has some fairly stringent requirements as well |
| 21:07.03 | Shadowed | because everyone is going to play the arenas with an optimal or heavy healing combo? |
| 21:07.13 | sancus | everyone who matters will |
| 21:07.21 | sancus | arena is a competitive ladder |
| 21:07.46 | sancus | if you dont play with those combos, then you aren't going to do very well |
| 21:08.09 | Shadowed | kind of like how people said that players with gear would ruin pvp and nobody would beat them :p |
| 21:09.01 | Shadowed | "holy paladin, resto druid, feral druid (who never heals), rogue, warlock. ", and they'll probably get #1 in arenas without a warrior or priest |
| 21:09.09 | sancus | that's not why they 'ruin pvp' |
| 21:09.20 | sancus | if by 'ruin' you mean 'win all the time', which they basically do |
| 21:09.32 | Shadowed | no...they win against poorly played teams |
| 21:09.34 | sancus | people with gear also tend to be tightly organized groups |
| 21:09.45 | sancus | there's really no such thing as a tightly organized group with poor gear |
| 21:09.49 | Shadowed | uhhh |
| 21:09.52 | sancus | because if you play together frequently enough to BE organized |
| 21:09.55 | sancus | you will get the gear |
| 21:10.43 | sancus | theres some exceptions, sure, but I've never seen the case where the top pvp groups on a server weren't also either a HWL group or a top raid guild |
| 21:10.58 | Shadowed | my old pvp group was able to do it actually |
| 21:11.00 | sancus | and the raid guilds tended to beat the HWL groups |
| 21:11.40 | Shadowed | beating horde guilds who out geared us, with one GM rogue, one feral druid (this was about a year ago) as the people who really had epics |
| 21:11.46 | Shadowed | one GM feral druid that is |
| 21:11.51 | Kirkburn|afk | Cripes the Doomwalker nearly killed my from hundreds fo yards away :/ |
| 21:12.02 | Kirkburn|afk | *me ... of |
| 21:12.04 | sancus | there's "outgeared" and "outgeared" |
| 21:12.36 | Kirkburn|afk | I'm a little confused as to how it's attack 'Earthquake' affected me at least 200 yards up in the air |
| 21:12.40 | Shadowed | Warrior in basically full wrath, TF, bulwark, prot spec, ect, mages who would do absurd amounts of burst damage from double trinkets + AP or fire |
| 21:12.51 | sancus | um |
| 21:12.57 | sancus | warrior in full wrath? in a pvp group? ok. |
| 21:12.59 | Shadowed | note this was when BWL/AQ40 were *new* |
| 21:13.09 | Shadowed | uh full wrath is what you want to use in WSG |
| 21:13.19 | sancus | WSG is a laughable joke of a bg in the first place |
| 21:13.27 | Shadowed | WSG was the only BG worth playing |
| 21:13.42 | Shadowed | AV is a joke and most people don't understand the tatics in AB |
| 21:13.44 | Shadowed | and EOS is just bad |
| 21:13.55 | MeStinkBAD | kirkburn|afk, so you don't feel bad... my average fps on the xbox (ffxi) is like ten lol |
| 21:14.11 | winkiller | sancus: my guild team was complete blue with 1-3 ZG epics each and we toasted the BWL teams in Ab in 5min 2000:0 :P |
| 21:14.44 | Shadowed | raiders aren't typically good in AB since you need to be able to think for yourself more then move as a group or work as a group |
| 21:15.01 | MeStinkBAD | somehow i need to find a way to play both mmos at once |
| 21:15.03 | Kirkburn|afk | C'mon guys, don't make silly generalisations about the BGs. You can have your opinions, don't make them out to be the opinion of everyone. |
| 21:15.21 | winkiller | I just wanted to address that "normally" :P |
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| 21:15.42 | winkiller | trinket mages often just seem to have no reflexes at all |
| 21:15.46 | Shadowed | Kirkburn|afk: Thats my experience from bgs from playing them since they were released :p |
| 21:15.54 | winkiller | I SO would love some standard-equip-pvp-mode |
| 21:15.55 | MeStinkBAD | how can i play both mmos and chat all at once... that what i'd really like to know |
| 21:16.03 | winkiller | where skill counts and not equip :( |
| 21:16.11 | sancus | There were a lot of very bad, bad guilds with bwl gear, depending on the timeline |
| 21:16.32 | Shadowed | we're talking roughly december/jan so within a month of nef dying for the first time |
| 21:16.42 | MeStinkBAD | do you all play on the same server? |
| 21:16.46 | Shadowed | I doubt it |
| 21:16.49 | sancus | no heh |
| 21:16.57 | Shadowed | Raiders typically need to be able to work well with a group of 40 people, AB is a lot more about a group of 1-3 people working together and knowing when to ignore a strat and do something else |
| 21:17.17 | Shadowed | obviously there are some who can work together in a group of 1-3 but the typical raider doesn't have PVP experience |
| 21:17.22 | MeStinkBAD | funny in FFXI it seems you rarely communicate with people not on your server |
| 21:18.02 | winkiller | Shadowed: well.. wsg is totally different |
| 21:18.20 | sancus | wsg isnt really pvp |
| 21:18.23 | sancus | in the first place |
| 21:18.29 | Shadowed | indeed, WSG is more two groups of either 4 and 6, 5/5 |
| 21:18.38 | Shadowed | and the tatics are very straightforward too |
| 21:19.14 | winkiller | I've yet to see a useful tactic against 13 T2 allies in def and waiting for horde to move |
| 21:20.28 | winkiller | they normally waited for an houtr or more. as they had enormously long queues :P |
| 21:20.42 | winkiller | sooner or later all horde either left battle or zerged and lost |
| 21:21.05 | axxo | all sticking together owns any other tactic |
| 21:21.18 | winkiller | except fotr ehat I said |
| 21:21.35 | axxo | nope |
| 21:21.38 | winkiller | because if both stick together, equip owns |
| 21:21.38 | axxo | works perfect against that |
| 21:22.52 | Shadowed | I've only had to deal with idiots who do 10 man defense a couple of times thankfully |
| 21:23.27 | winkiller | battlegroups took all the fun of it |
| 21:23.28 | axxo | go get the flag with 10man, run back with 10 man, kill anyone you see <3 |
| 21:23.35 | winkiller | months of building up enemies you know... |
| 21:24.12 | Shadowed | Icecrown PVP started to get pretty bad so battlegroups made it more fun for a while...but then most of the good teams stopped so it got boring again |
| 21:34.13 | sancus | winkiller: I dunno, on some servers I imagine it put the fun back in for the groups that no one would fight |
| 21:34.32 | winkiller | at mine it killed the fun :( |
| 21:34.44 | sancus | i never pvp'd before arena in beta |
| 21:34.48 | sancus | because it was stupid |
| 21:35.14 | sancus | pretty much 99% of your whole night would be a composition of waiting in queue |
| 21:35.26 | sancus | and waiting for people to afk out |
| 21:35.47 | sancus | that was before battle groups |
| 21:35.53 | winkiller | can't satisfy everyone :) |
| 21:36.03 | winkiller | whatever, we switchted to pve then |
| 21:36.16 | sancus | there was like one group that fought us well, the alliance honor farming group |
| 21:36.38 | sancus | the only problem was that they didn't want hard 30 min fights that ended in us winning :( |
| 21:36.48 | sancus | .. because they were honor farming |
| 21:36.53 | sancus | so they'd usually allow one fight like that |
| 21:36.58 | sancus | then join the afk out crowd :P |
| 21:37.22 | sancus | thats about when I got disgusted with the pathetic implementation of pvp in WoW, I think |
| 21:38.19 | sancus | we were always mainly pve, though |
| 21:39.28 | sancus | arena's a pretty nice improvement though, apart from the fact that rankings are server-specific, that's kinda sad |
| 21:39.36 | sancus | but I guess it gives you back your enemies stuff :p |
| 21:55.34 | MeStinkBAD | gotta write applescript for synching ipod shuffle |
| 21:56.00 | MeStinkBAD | this is why i never play |
| 21:56.42 | MeStinkBAD | unless someone else wants to do this for me ^^ |
| 22:03.26 | Boromir | This is quite a dillema.. Should I go out and meet the beautiful girl who has come with me twice before when she's drunk, or should I play all night instead? |
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| 22:14.33 | Kirkburn|afk | I just got a quest for Tempest keep heroic mode. Nevermind the fact I probably couldn't do it on normal :P |
| 22:15.10 | MeStinkBAD | damn assholes... don't even cast cursna on me |
| 22:15.17 | MeStinkBAD | Er not you guys lol |
| 22:15.31 | Kirkburn|afk | Cursna? |
| 22:16.38 | MeStinkBAD | lol in FFXI... I had curse... Cursna removes it... bunch of high level players run past me... i ask for cursna and they don't even respond |
| 22:20.25 | MeStinkBAD | passed 30 min mark on quest |
| 22:31.52 | MeStinkBAD | Damn! $duration(%t.quest.counter) into quest... made it to NM spawn area but it looks like lottery pop! FFXI most fucking time consuming game ever! |
| 22:32.00 | MeStinkBAD | Damn! 43mins 22secs into quest... made it to NM spawn area but it looks like lottery pop! FFXI most fucking time consuming game ever! |
| 22:32.04 | MeStinkBAD | lol |
| 22:32.32 | MeStinkBAD | i'm silenced and really can't do anything since i'm a smn |
| 22:32.52 | MeStinkBAD | Imma gonna start up WoW lol |
| 22:33.25 | MeStinkBAD | just as soon as this update downloads |
| 22:35.17 | MeStinkBAD | launching WoW without going thru the launcher doesn't effect anything right? |
| 22:38.42 | kaso | nope |
| 22:38.55 | kaso | the launcher isnt necessary |
| 22:39.23 | MeStinkBAD | Odd it wouldn't log in |
| 22:39.26 | MeStinkBAD | Let me try again |
| 22:39.49 | kaso | could just be that the auth server is being bitchy, god knows that happens more often than not |
| 22:46.32 | MeStinkBAD | Okay bogus! ñ is a letter |
| 22:46.58 | kaso | hm? |
| 22:47.06 | MeStinkBAD | Trying to create new character |
| 22:47.18 | MeStinkBAD | I want the name Fiñ |
| 22:47.46 | kaso | come play EU, i think they support more charaters |
| 22:48.30 | MeStinkBAD | I doubt it matters what locale you use |
| 22:48.56 | kaso | well i play EU and i see non standard chars in names alot |
| 22:49.32 | MeStinkBAD | Probably font that displays character names is limited to the 52 characters of the alphabet |
| 22:49.45 | MeStinkBAD | Well help me think of a good name |
| 22:49.52 | kaso | Fin? |
| 22:50.08 | Shadowed | You only use those characters if the onew ithout them is taken :p |
| 22:50.10 | Shadowed | without too |
| 22:50.13 | MeStinkBAD | Fin is not the same as Fiñ |
| 22:50.32 | MeStinkBAD | It tells me I can only use letters |
| 22:50.37 | MeStinkBAD | When I try that name |
| 22:50.55 | Shadowed | How interesting I wonder if they started filtering those names out if you're US |
| 22:50.59 | MeStinkBAD | Finale is that spell right? |
| 22:51.26 | MeStinkBAD | I bet the font doesn't contain that character |
| 22:51.39 | MeStinkBAD | unless they're using the Mac font table |
| 22:51.50 | MeStinkBAD | Which means ñ would look totally different |
| 22:51.52 | kaso | Do you mean the concluding part, of a musical composition ? thats a Finale. |
| 22:52.12 | MeStinkBAD | The latter |
| 22:52.33 | MeStinkBAD | Er strange |
| 22:53.01 | MeStinkBAD | I just erased and rewrote the name Fiñ and it created the charater |
| 22:55.15 | MeStinkBAD | Hmm do you load out of date addons? |
| 22:56.24 | Kirkburn|afk | Tick box on the character selction --> addons screen |
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| 23:17.53 | MeStinkBAD | *sigh* |
| 23:18.28 | MeStinkBAD | After I created the char I went back to FFXI... trying to complete the quest (1:30 now since I started) |
| 23:18.40 | MeStinkBAD | Got the NM... bastard didn't drop the item i need |
| 23:19.01 | MeStinkBAD | I dunno what is the respawn time |
| 23:19.11 | MeStinkBAD | Prolly 2hrs |
| 23:19.13 | MeStinkBAD | I'm pissed |
| 23:20.35 | MeStinkBAD | er wait says repops every 15 min |
| 23:38.07 | MeStinkBAD | AUGHHHHH" |
| 23:38.11 | MeStinkBAD | NO NO NO |
| 23:38.33 | Kirkburn|afk | You sound ... happy |
| 23:38.45 | MeStinkBAD | I died... f*cking links |
| 23:38.54 | MeStinkBAD | And the NM was down to 1% health |
| 23:39.09 | MeStinkBAD | *sigh* |
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| 23:43.15 | Kirkburn|afk | So apparently taking a short-cut across Garadar was a bad idea |
| 23:44.20 | sancus | flying above enemy towns in outland is generally a bad idea, yes |
| 23:44.33 | sancus | hell |
| 23:44.54 | sancus | entering them in any way is pretty much a bad idea, they all have elite guards that are orders of magnitude nastier than anything in azeroth |
| 23:45.32 | sancus | if you're careful you can still perch on a wall and snipe people, though! :p |
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| 23:47.29 | sancus | http://chuckg.org/dump/2007/curator_the_pet.jpg |
| 23:47.30 | sancus | good game |
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| 23:50.45 | Bagginsww | 70 yay |
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| 23:51.06 | winkiller | gratz |
| 23:54.09 | MeStinkBAD | $timestamp |
| 23:57.47 | MeStinkBAD | that was interesting |
