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| 01:12.12 | sloth | i'm getting the redirects back to the main page again. is there anything I can do to avoid these? |
| 01:14.59 | zeal | it's not a redirect |
| 01:15.03 | zeal | and there is nothing you can do |
| 01:15.08 | zeal | just refresh until it goes. |
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| 02:49.37 | bleetah | porridge porridge porridge porridge |
| 02:53.57 | voidvector | from which wowwiki is served |
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| 02:55.01 | bleetah | hmmm, hypertext transfer porridge... yummy |
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| 03:01.50 | zeal | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Aqir&diff=482804&oldid=414167 am i missing something or is that edit as pointless as i think? :s |
| 03:07.19 | voidvector | go post a warning message on his talk page to scare him |
| 03:07.30 | Zeal | O_o |
| 03:07.36 | Zeal | you ok vv? |
| 03:08.14 | voidvector | hey, that's the way of things on wikipedia, check out this |
| 03:08.18 | voidvector | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Template_messages/User_talk_namespace |
| 03:09.13 | Zeal | ... |
| 03:09.25 | Zeal | but thankfully, it's not the way of things on wowwiki. |
| 03:12.05 | voidvector | yes, i sometimes post those on established user's talk page just to piss them off |
| 03:13.13 | Zeal | heh |
| 03:13.41 | Adys | vv: omfg |
| 03:13.56 | Adys | wow at that list |
| 03:14.32 | Adys | theres a specific welcome for spammers |
| 03:15.30 | Adys | a specific welcome for wikipedians having done a non neutral edit.. |
| 03:15.30 | voidvector | i believe wowwiki has one, too, its called the ban stick =P |
| 03:16.27 | Adys | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Welcomeshort |
| 03:16.28 | Adys | lol |
| 03:16.52 | Zeal | i like order and such.. but even i think thats stupid : / |
| 03:17.03 | Adys | wow zeal you impress me^^ |
| 03:17.13 | Zeal | rofl |
| 03:17.22 | Zeal | i aim to please ;) |
| 03:17.32 | Adys | infobot, give zeal a cookie |
| 03:17.41 | infobot | ACTION gives zeal a home-baked chocolate chip cookie to cheer him up. |
| 03:17.55 | Adys | infobot is slow today |
| 03:18.02 | Adys | infobot wake the hell up |
| 03:18.04 | infobot | ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on the hell up and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!" |
| 03:18.04 | Zeal | indeed |
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| 03:18.13 | Zeal | and why isn't kirkburn on here :( |
| 03:18.20 | bleetah | i killed him |
| 03:18.23 | bleetah | deaded |
| 03:18.26 | Adys | infobot, rez kirkburn |
| 03:18.30 | bleetah | too much prridge |
| 03:19.10 | bleetah | or maybe he decided to enter the new market of 'reality trading' |
| 03:19.21 | bleetah | and thusly vanished up his own claker |
| 03:19.39 | Zeal | he's on the wiki, editing away :P |
| 03:19.49 | bleetah | he better not be editing the reality page |
| 03:19.53 | bleetah | or he'll be more deaded |
| 03:20.10 | Zeal | salvaged the A3 vote thing before i got a chance to recall it ;) |
| 03:21.16 | Zeal | anyways, i'm gunna call it a night. nn all |
| 03:21.44 | Adys | gn zeal |
| 03:22.13 | voidvector | night |
| 03:28.00 | voidvector | infobot, look up Nutrition |
| 03:33.48 | voidvector | infobot, change 100 USD to EUR |
| 03:34.25 | voidvector | infobot, google WoW |
| 03:35.13 | voidvector | infobot, weather Paris |
| 03:35.38 | voidvector | infobot, weather New York |
| 03:37.33 | voidvector | infobot, weather UPTON |
| 03:38.04 | voidvector | infobot, slashdot headlines |
| 03:38.37 | voidvector | infobot, google for WoW |
| 03:39.51 | voidvector | infobot, translate to German Hello |
| 03:41.24 | voidvector | infobot, tell me about cookie |
| 03:42.09 | voidvector | infobot, tell me about fortune |
| 03:42.23 | voidvector | infobot, tell me about fortune |
| 03:43.14 | voidvector | infobot, tell me a fortune |
| 03:43.28 | voidvector | infobot, fortune |
| 03:43.30 | infobot | i guess fortune is a kickass app available for Linux. Packages are in OZ and http://frob.us/modules.php?name=Fortune lets you use fortune over the web. |
| 03:44.17 | voidvector | infobot, Bush is a bad president |
| 03:44.19 | infobot | ...but bush is already something else... |
| 03:44.30 | voidvector | infobot, Bush |
| 03:44.32 | infobot | bush is, like, chick plumbing or the current president and potential dictator, or the guy that made stupidity fashionable. |
| 03:45.02 | voidvector | infobot, WoWWiki |
| 03:45.03 | infobot | hmm... wowwiki is http://www.wowwiki.com |
| 03:45.55 | voidvector | infobot, clinton |
| 03:45.57 | infobot | i guess clinton is the best president we've had since george bush, dammit! or the only president we've had since george bush, dammit! or the Pants Dropper in Chief or the guy blowing away small countries or the president whose staff continues to classify cryptographic software as munitions or a shitty human being or stupid or in control of nuclear weapons or a ... |
| 03:46.20 | Adys | infobot, tell voidvector to stop playing |
| 03:46.47 | voidvector | >.< |
| 03:46.56 | Adys | :P |
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| 04:15.26 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/Identifying_Aberrant_Personalities |
| 04:15.30 | Adys | this is awesome |
| 04:33.51 | Adys | http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/en/122442783.htm |
| 04:38.47 | voidvector | only in Europe |
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| 04:49.22 | Adys | voidvector: aye still ommra is awesome :P |
| 04:50.08 | voidvector | lol |
| 04:50.48 | Adys | I got two quotes of ommra now in my qotd! |
| 04:50.54 | Adys | Almost more than tseric |
| 04:50.59 | Adys | infobot, Ommra? |
| 04:51.14 | Adys | infobot, Tseric? |
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| 04:51.24 | Adys | infobot, you suck |
| 04:51.26 | infobot | no, *you* suck! |
| 04:51.28 | Kirkburn | Boo! |
| 04:51.30 | Adys | Kirkburn, hullo love |
| 04:51.33 | voidvector | ................(___).... |
| 04:51.34 | voidvector | .................|Oo|.... |
| 04:51.37 | voidvector | ......... /``````` OO)... |
| 04:51.38 | voidvector | ........./ |_______-- moo |
| 04:51.38 | Kirkburn | Hey sexy |
| 04:51.42 | voidvector | ........*...L......L..... |
| 04:51.48 | Adys | Infobot, Ommra is a cow |
| 04:51.49 | infobot | okay, Adys |
| 04:52.08 | Kirkburn | >.< |
| 04:52.11 | Adys | damn these stupid bots |
| 04:52.17 | Adys | anyways:! |
| 04:52.22 | Adys | aint seen you today kirk |
| 04:52.35 | voidvector | infobot, Ommra |
| 04:52.36 | infobot | [ommra] a cow |
| 04:53.00 | Adys | ~emulate kirkburn |
| 04:53.01 | infobot | I hear he's very fond of kittens. Buy him one. |
| 04:53.16 | Adys | this thing never gets old |
| 04:53.54 | voidvector | infobot, Adys |
| 04:53.56 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, adys is French! |
| 04:54.07 | Adys | infobot, shut up |
| 04:54.08 | infobot | yes, master adys |
| 04:54.09 | Kirkburn | Accidentaly on purpose I didn't join the channel :) |
| 04:54.55 | Adys | I see ya in wowi lounge! |
| 04:56.42 | voidvector | infobot, last seen Kirkburn |
| 04:57.11 | Kirkburn | ~seen Kirkburn |
| 04:57.36 | infobot | kirkburn is currently on #wowi-lounge (6m 18s) #wowace (6m 18s) #wowwiki (6m 18s). Has said a total of 116 messages. Is idling for 25s, last said: '~seen Kirkburn'. |
| 04:57.39 | Kirkburn | infobot, you're a bit slow today, aren't you ... |
| 04:58.15 | Kirkburn | Basically, one needs one's time off from the wiki :) |
| 05:00.12 | p0rcelain | jesus, people woke up! |
| 05:00.27 | p0rcelain | everyone but Fin :( |
| 05:01.07 | Adys | infobot, fin? |
| 05:01.08 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, fin is Microsoft's "Freedom To Innovate Network", at http://www.microsoft.com/freedomtoinnovate/. Freedom for only themselves not for their competitors |
| 05:01.18 | Adys | no no no... |
| 05:01.40 | p0rcelain | lol |
| 05:01.46 | Adys | infobot, fin is also known as Pgl. Why don't you check ~pgl? |
| 05:01.48 | infobot | okay, Adys |
| 05:01.57 | Adys | infobot, pgl |
| 05:02.23 | p0rcelain | bit cranky? |
| 05:02.28 | Fin | oh, hello there |
| 05:02.31 | Adys | Fin! |
| 05:02.34 | p0rcelain | Fin! :) |
| 05:02.39 | Fin | how do :) |
| 05:03.16 | p0rcelain | so this is where one has to go to find you now days? |
| 05:03.36 | Fin | heh |
| 05:03.37 | Fin | well |
| 05:03.39 | Fin | I don't say much |
| 05:03.44 | Fin | I do on #wowace actually |
| 05:03.52 | p0rcelain | Fin, not talking? oh dear :( |
| 05:03.53 | Fin | but I'm still idle most of the time |
| 05:04.06 | p0rcelain | aha! |
| 05:04.32 | p0rcelain | Adys and i just had the most thrilling night in weeks! |
| 05:04.39 | Adys | Woot? |
| 05:04.45 | p0rcelain | campfires! |
| 05:04.54 | Adys | Err, I just installed Prat.. |
| 05:04.55 | p0rcelain | lots of them |
| 05:04.59 | Fin | hooray |
| 05:05.01 | p0rcelain | uh oh |
| 05:05.03 | Fin | I just updated it today |
| 05:05.59 | Adys | I love it! |
| 05:06.42 | Adys | So you finally woke up. Aint seen you in a while! |
| 05:06.46 | Adys | infobot, do your job |
| 05:06.48 | infobot | ACTION does your job. |
| 05:06.57 | Adys | infobot, nevermind |
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| 11:33.54 | mitch0 | 'lo |
| 11:34.29 | mitch0 | does anyone know if SpellHasRange() returns the actual range of the spell also, or just a boolean? (wowi-lounge seems to be afk, so I don't know a better place to ask) |
| 11:35.30 | axxo | tias |
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| 14:59.13 | Tepetkhet | So what are the "new endgame raids"? |
| 15:06.23 | equiraptor | Karazhan is the MC of 70, is it not? |
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| 15:10.39 | Tuqui-tuqui | dear god! last night I got 20500 out of 21000 needed for exalted at lvl 42 |
| 15:10.44 | Tuqui-tuqui | AND THE SERVER GOES DOWN! |
| 15:10.58 | sancus | no |
| 15:11.02 | sancus | karazhan is the ubrs of 70 |
| 15:11.08 | Hobinheim | sancus, quick question |
| 15:11.12 | sancus | there isnt really an MC of 70 |
| 15:11.18 | Hobinheim | do you have any idea as to what the main contributer is to the frequent outages |
| 15:11.20 | sancus | gruul's lair + magtheridon are the closest thing? |
| 15:11.35 | Hobinheim | it seems a little bit of bot editing sets us over the edge, when that used to not be the case |
| 15:11.38 | Hobinheim | good morning, by the way |
| 15:11.44 | sancus | no idea |
| 15:11.51 | Tuqui-tuqui | good morning :D |
| 15:11.59 | sancus | and I dont have time to analyze it atm |
| 15:12.00 | equiraptor | Are you talking by size, difficulty, or role in max-level progression, sancus? |
| 15:12.01 | Hobinheim | i'm naively pushing for a wiki engine upgrade by the way =) |
| 15:12.02 | sancus | maybe in a few weeks |
| 15:12.12 | Hobinheim | anyway, back to work |
| 15:12.20 | sancus | I'm talking about by relative-difficulty-and-place-in-progression |
| 15:12.27 | equiraptor | Ok. |
| 15:12.50 | sancus | the only real difference is karazhan is hard limited to 10 people |
| 15:12.54 | equiraptor | So what's the "toughest" level 70 instance in game right now? |
| 15:12.59 | sancus | whereas ubrs was never hard-limited during its lifetime, sadly |
| 15:13.02 | sancus | it was designed for 10 people as well |
| 15:13.22 | sancus | well |
| 15:13.32 | sancus | the toughest is probably magtheridon |
| 15:13.51 | sancus | that's accessible, anyhow |
| 15:13.57 | sancus | Tempest Keep is unaccessible until someone kills magtheridon |
| 15:14.05 | sancus | the raid part of it that is |
| 15:15.19 | sancus | heroic shattered halls done within the prisoner time-limit is probably the hardest non-25 man raid thing in the game currently |
| 15:18.02 | Tepetkhet | So as far as what's considered "real endgame progression"? |
| 15:18.14 | Tepetkhet | Like before we had Onyxia, MC, BWL... |
| 15:18.29 | Tepetkhet | And people didn't really report on AQ20 or ZG progression. |
| 15:18.34 | sancus | oh |
| 15:18.40 | sancus | gruul's lair, magtheridon for the moment |
| 15:18.47 | sancus | with a little slice of nightbane, since its the only hard thing in karazhan |
| 15:18.48 | Tepetkhet | Karazhan is out? |
| 15:18.56 | Tepetkhet | wow |
| 15:19.20 | sancus | I imagine if anyone was keeping track of heroic 5-mans |
| 15:19.25 | Tepetkhet | You think Karazhan is going to be kinda like the ZG/AQ20? |
| 15:19.31 | sancus | it would be worth it to see who is actually keyed for TK |
| 15:19.36 | sancus | but no one is for some reason |
| 15:19.47 | sancus | I dont know why, since it's extremely hard |
| 15:20.00 | sancus | and yeah |
| 15:20.37 | sancus | the only thing that really prevents any decent guild from completely raping karazhan like they did AQ20/ZG when they came out, I think |
| 15:20.44 | sancus | is that no one is obscenely overgeared for it |
| 15:20.57 | sancus | but its not a hard instance at all |
| 15:21.16 | Tepetkhet | Like...people say, "Well, we finally defeated Prince Malchezaar in Karazhan"? |
| 15:21.36 | Tepetkhet | Like we used to say, "Well, finally defeated Hakkar." |
| 15:21.49 | Tepetkhet | Or Ossirian |
| 15:22.54 | sancus | pretty much |
| 15:23.13 | sancus | I think we killed malchezaar first week, tho I wasnt in that kara group so not 100% sure |
| 15:23.20 | Tepetkhet | While it's still new, I don't think you can fault anybody for keeping track of Karazhan. |
| 15:23.36 | sancus | well, there's keeping track, and keeping track |
| 15:23.37 | Tepetkhet | But then, my last guild tracked ZG and AQ20 boss kills. |
| 15:23.38 | Tepetkhet | heh |
| 15:24.01 | sancus | realm forums lists often keep track of things that the wider community ignores |
| 15:24.20 | sancus | so it depends who is keeping track |
| 15:24.20 | Tepetkhet | Keeping track in a server-wide progression thread, same as they did with Ony, MC, BWL, Naxx... |
| 15:24.41 | Tepetkhet | That thread didn't track ZG/AQ20 |
| 15:24.55 | Tepetkhet | Oh, I always forget outdoor raid content. |
| 15:24.57 | sancus | our realm forum thread lists zg and aq20 :p |
| 15:25.05 | Tepetkhet | Ah |
| 15:25.13 | Tepetkhet | That's kinda funny. |
| 15:25.19 | Tepetkhet | Our server isn't even that...progressed? |
| 15:25.29 | Tepetkhet | But we don't track that in the realm forums. |
| 15:27.24 | sancus | our server is pretty pathetic too |
| 15:27.34 | sancus | which is uh, one of the reasons we moved there :p |
| 15:27.44 | sancus | because the big servers were laggy as hell when we moved |
| 15:27.49 | sancus | was almost impossible to raid |
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| 15:28.03 | sancus | we were cancelling more than 75% of our raids due to 1-5 second lag, heh |
| 15:28.42 | sancus | I dunno why they track the 20 mans |
| 15:28.42 | sancus | the main reason no one tracks the 20 mans is because they had pretty meh gear |
| 15:28.52 | sancus | and almost everyone who actually raided was horribly overgeared for them when they were implemented |
| 15:28.56 | sancus | not really because they weren't hard |
| 15:29.15 | sancus | Karazhan will be taken more seriously any way you look at it because it drops important gear for the current progression level |
| 15:29.59 | sancus | but I dunno many really serious raid guilds who haven't cleared everything but nightbane in the first week or two in there |
| 15:30.18 | Tepetkhet | hm |
| 15:30.26 | Tepetkhet | Well, just shows how slow our server is overall. |
| 15:30.35 | Tepetkhet | We're a relaxed bunch in general. |
| 15:30.51 | Tepetkhet | The top Horde and Alliance guilds only have a handful of kills. |
| 15:31.47 | Tepetkhet | Top Horde guild posted last night: |
| 15:32.05 | Tepetkhet | "we have defeated the Opera House (Oz/Juliet/Wolf) and we are currently on The Curator" |
| 15:35.13 | sancus | heh |
| 15:39.15 | sancus | we have two groups, one has everything down but prince and nightbane, the other still has netherspite plus those two |
| 15:39.19 | sancus | this week that is |
| 15:39.32 | sancus | hopefully we'll have a third group next week |
| 15:39.34 | voidvector | server might've just died |
| 15:39.44 | voidvector | wiki* |
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| 15:49.56 | Hobinheim|work | my lock can shadowtank your mom |
| 15:50.14 | Tepetkhet | o_O |
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| 16:02.01 | voidvector | i just found a mistake in my regex that was used to creat Npcbox in the 3000+ articles. Basically, it might crop 1 letter in the beginning of a article. So, if you guys see missing characters on pages with Npcbox, don't bother me. |
| 16:02.33 | Tepetkhet | oops |
| 16:07.24 | voidvector | sure beats changing 3000+ pages by hand |
| 16:09.38 | voidvector | the error rate is definitely less than 1%, cause i only found 1 page with it out of hundreds i spot checked |
| 16:12.35 | Hobinheim|work | hey vv |
| 16:12.44 | Hobinheim|work | could you like... not do... blank fields |
| 16:12.58 | Hobinheim|work | | field = ______________________ |
| 16:13.05 | Hobinheim|work | as opposed to not specifying it at all |
| 16:13.19 | Hobinheim|work | btw are you custom writing these in python? |
| 16:13.25 | voidvector | no |
| 16:13.30 | voidvector | it's all regex |
| 16:13.41 | voidvector | why not blanks? |
| 16:13.59 | voidvector | so you can do fallback w/o testing? |
| 16:14.26 | Hobinheim|work | and btw you don't need to use the QIF template to give something a default value |
| 16:14.42 | Hobinheim|work | {{{name|Anonymous}}} |
| 16:15.15 | Hobinheim|work | instead of {{qif|thenName={{{name}}}|telse=Anonymous}} |
| 16:15.18 | Hobinheim|work | or whatever |
| 16:15.37 | voidvector | well, the reason i used blanks is because it shows all the parameters available, so future editors can fill it in |
| 16:16.22 | voidvector | if you like it the other way around, i can go wipe those off, fairly easily with regex |
| 16:16.46 | Hobinheim|work | http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:A_Daughter%27s_Love |
| 16:16.54 | Hobinheim|work | the parameter end has a default function to duplicate start |
| 16:17.31 | Hobinheim|work | but if there's an empty field there, it's not really empty, it's probably equal to a nbsp or something |
| 16:17.51 | Hobinheim|work | i dunno that's just one example |
| 16:17.53 | voidvector | i intensionally put an end for questbox, cause i had no way of checking who the quest ender is using a bot. |
| 16:18.02 | Hobinheim|work | ok |
| 16:18.10 | Tepetkhet | I'm going to have to log out. |
| 16:18.16 | Hobinheim|work | anyway. |
| 16:18.22 | Hobinheim|work | i think it's fantastic to have something to bitch about |
| 16:18.25 | Tepetkhet | I think I'm going to be fired. |
| 16:18.43 | Hobinheim|work | the boxes look great |
| 16:18.43 | Hobinheim|work | anyway, back to work again |
| 16:18.43 | Hobinheim|work | thx |
| 16:18.43 | Tepetkhet | Because I forgot more stuff. |
| 16:18.53 | voidvector | Hobinheim|work, i just realized before that the box looks different on IE |
| 16:29.46 | Hobinheim|work | ? |
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| 16:31.58 | voidvector | IE doesn't support the css padding dfn for tables |
| 16:32.12 | Hobinheim|work | yeah. ie is two types of terrible... |
| 16:32.36 | voidvector | so the padding for those boxes doesn't show up in IE |
| 16:32.41 | Hobinheim|work | right right |
| 16:33.09 | voidvector | just wanted to bring to your attention in case you want to fix it |
| 16:33.24 | Hobinheim|work | heh not really |
| 16:33.27 | Hobinheim|work | maybe yeah one day |
| 16:33.39 | Hobinheim|work | iconbox now includes box questbox and npbox... |
| 16:33.46 | Hobinheim|work | it should be an easy fix. just not a pretty one for the wiki |
| 16:33.53 | voidvector | btw, due to technical limitation, most of the race's name are in plural for npcbox |
| 16:33.56 | Hobinheim|work | will definitely grind it to a halt |
| 16:34.02 | Hobinheim|work | ? |
| 16:34.12 | Hobinheim|work | like? |
| 16:34.19 | voidvector | it would say "night elves" instead of "night elf" for race |
| 16:34.25 | Hobinheim|work | why? |
| 16:34.42 | voidvector | cause the only sure shot way for me to grab race is from the category |
| 16:34.50 | voidvector | and they are all in plural |
| 16:35.15 | voidvector | that can be fixed w/another run |
| 16:35.24 | Fin | it depends on the context |
| 16:35.32 | Fin | we are the human race; but it is Orcs vs. Humans |
| 16:35.55 | voidvector | oh no, i meant in Npcboxes |
| 16:37.47 | Hobinheim|work | but why is that though, why can't you just give the singular |
| 16:38.55 | voidvector | i had no way of converting that via a single run |
| 16:39.10 | Hobinheim|work | but where are you getting it from |
| 16:39.21 | voidvector | category tags |
| 16:39.28 | Hobinheim|work | ic... |
| 16:39.51 | Hobinheim|work | and what function are you using to fetch pages given by a certain critera? is that given by the engine you're using? which is what, by the way? |
| 16:40.09 | Hobinheim|work | i'm curious because i'm manually writing my bots so there are lots and lots of limitations, but lots of flexibility also |
| 16:40.18 | Hobinheim|work | mostly limitation in polling specific pages |
| 16:41.38 | voidvector | i can do allpages, category, links from a page, links to a page |
| 16:42.24 | Hobinheim|work | nice |
| 16:42.32 | Hobinheim|work | i have to poll manual, it's so sad... |
| 16:42.36 | Hobinheim|work | so i can't like poll a category, for instance |
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| 16:43.27 | voidvector | well, a category wouldn't be too hard to poll, would it? |
| 16:43.28 | Hobinheim|work | what engine is this again? |
| 16:43.47 | voidvector | pywikipediabot |
| 16:43.47 | Hobinheim|work | as far as i can tell, there's no provisions for asking for all pages in a category |
| 16:43.54 | Hobinheim|work | they're paginated with a limit of 200 |
| 16:44.18 | Julien | i just recently started WoW and im interested in playing druid, anyone have suggestions for build wise? i was thinking a full balance build would be fun |
| 16:44.32 | Hobinheim|work | people say feral for soloing |
| 16:44.42 | Hobinheim|work | with the introduction of TBC, i wouldn't worry about spec so much, just have fun |
| 16:44.56 | Julien | ah, thanks |
| 16:45.51 | voidvector | only do full balance if you have good gear. hitting 500 w/a nuke is pretty lame |
| 16:48.27 | Hobinheim|work | full anything is sorta uhhhhhh |
| 16:48.31 | Hobinheim|work | like i'm full demonology |
| 16:48.36 | Hobinheim|work | and i don't know any other warlocks that are |
| 16:48.43 | Hobinheim|work | so i'm lacking in the damage department |
| 16:48.52 | Hobinheim|work | but at least me and my pet are best friends =) |
| 16:49.25 | Julien | so hybrid is probably better for me? |
| 16:49.36 | voidvector | what level are you? |
| 16:50.15 | Julien | havent made the char yet, im figuring out what i want to play first =P |
| 16:50.34 | voidvector | go feral until you reach 60-70 |
| 16:51.00 | Julien | thanks |
| 16:51.02 | voidvector | otherwise you will have downtime, feral skills don't use mana. |
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| 16:51.32 | equiraptor | Yeah. Go feral for leveling. If you want to be able to heal in groups, keep a set of healing gear. |
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| 16:51.41 | equiraptor | I have a level 65 druid. |
| 16:51.48 | equiraptor | I <3 cat form. |
| 16:52.15 | equiraptor | Also, Omen of Clarity (11 point talent in the Restoration tree) is wonderful. |
| 16:52.17 | Hobinheim|work | because it makes you feel like a rogue? |
| 16:52.24 | equiraptor | I hate my rogue. |
| 16:52.29 | Hobinheim|work | i hate rogues. that whole sneaking around crap bothers me |
| 16:52.35 | Hobinheim|work | ranged class = love forever |
| 16:52.49 | equiraptor | The sneaking around is neither here nor there for me. |
| 16:53.12 | Hobinheim|work | cats sneak? |
| 16:53.22 | equiraptor | I hate "run and hide" being my only options when I end up with something way nastier than I intended. The druid can just fight through it, if I do things right. The rogue can't. |
| 16:53.22 | Hobinheim|work | *stealth |
| 16:53.35 | equiraptor | Yeah, cats have "prowl" which is stealth. |
| 16:53.46 | Hobinheim|work | another thing that bothers me about druids is the shape shifting |
| 16:53.54 | Julien | well, i love magic classes so ive been trying to figure out what i should play |
| 16:53.59 | Hobinheim|work | i only got bear form and i could tell there's a style to min max your regen rates and what not |
| 16:54.07 | Julien | priest seems like it will get boring |
| 16:54.20 | equiraptor | Warlock is fun. |
| 16:54.28 | Hobinheim|work | warlock is fun... it's like the un cola |
| 16:54.37 | equiraptor | There are lots of different ways to play warlocks. But they're not as in demand as priests... :) |
| 16:54.51 | Hobinheim|work | like i don't like how i couldn't just be bear form forever... i had to switch out, heal myself, buff myself... ugh |
| 16:55.06 | Julien | i want something fun in raids |
| 16:55.12 | Hobinheim|work | and shaman is annoying too |
| 16:55.15 | Hobinheim|work | toteming all the time |
| 16:55.42 | voidvector | not sure if druid would be fun in raid |
| 16:56.12 | Julien | hmm |
| 16:56.22 | Julien | how is mage |
| 16:56.28 | Julien | compared to warlock |
| 16:56.31 | voidvector | they used to heal exclusively, but i've seen a lot of feral and balance druid in raid lately |
| 16:57.12 | voidvector | warlock is higher demand (for alliance at least) cause very few people roll one |
| 16:57.13 | equiraptor | The mage is more simple. Strait up DPS. Soloing, mages tend to kite their targets, since mages are pretty squishy. |
| 16:57.35 | equiraptor | There's less variety than the warlock has, but the mage is part of the "holy trinity" - warrior (tank), mage (DPS), priest (healer). |
| 16:57.45 | Hobinheim|work | mage is "simpler" than a warlock |
| 16:57.50 | Hobinheim|work | mages blast things really fast |
| 16:57.57 | equiraptor | "glass cannon" <-- mage |
| 16:57.58 | Hobinheim|work | and i haven't gotten up to kiting yet but yeah i hear that's important |
| 16:58.03 | Julien | ah |
| 16:58.09 | Hobinheim|work | warlocks can tank or have a tank, when compared to a mage, cuz we have pets |
| 16:58.26 | Hobinheim|work | mage, there's nothing preventing a mob from walking up to your grill, save frost spells |
| 16:58.27 | equiraptor | The right spec warlock can be a tank. I've watched one tank Ony. ;) |
| 16:58.38 | Hobinheim|work | warlocks damage things "over time" |
| 16:58.47 | Hobinheim|work | while a mage's results are near instant, or more obvious |
| 16:58.52 | equiraptor | So they can be slower to kill a single target. |
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| 16:59.01 | Hobinheim|work | a warlock has more tactical options than a mage, but a mage can just out damage their way through most problems |
| 16:59.07 | equiraptor | However, once the warlock reaches a certain level, it can "kill over time" many, many targets. |
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| 16:59.12 | sancus | unless they're specced destruction, in which case they're just mages that are better in all ways than mages :P |
| 16:59.13 | Hobinheim|work | but a warlock could potentially kill a swarm of things |
| 16:59.24 | Hobinheim|work | and then on the other hand a well specced mage could attempt the same thing |
| 16:59.33 | Hobinheim|work | a mage is a mage |
| 16:59.35 | equiraptor | My warlock will regularly have dots on 3 mobs at any given time, while soloing. |
| 16:59.38 | Hobinheim|work | but you can have a very mage-ish warlock |
| 16:59.40 | Hobinheim|work | or a very warlock warlock |
| 16:59.57 | equiraptor | And I, according to my friends, am really bad at my warlock. ;) |
| 17:00.13 | Julien | raiding wise which is better |
| 17:00.31 | equiraptor | Warlocks take a lot of crap and seem to become bitter. |
| 17:00.47 | Hobinheim|work | warlocks are fun because they're less popular. close knit community |
| 17:00.53 | Hobinheim|work | not a matter of better |
| 17:00.57 | Hobinheim|work | everyone has their function in raids |
| 17:01.01 | equiraptor | They lack a good aggro reducing method, and since the non-destruction 'locks rely heavily on DoTs, controlling aggro can be hard. |
| 17:01.07 | Hobinheim|work | mages "just dps" things, warlocks have utlity |
| 17:01.12 | equiraptor | If you want to take on that challenge, they can be great. |
| 17:01.22 | voidvector | is this your first character? if it is, i think you should probably go for mage, cause its easier to pick up |
| 17:01.23 | Hobinheim|work | but i guess mages have utility too |
| 17:01.24 | sancus | I don't think any of that is true, btw |
| 17:01.28 | Hobinheim|work | yeah you should probably go mage |
| 17:01.34 | Hobinheim|work | for your first character |
| 17:01.34 | sancus | as far as I can tell, mages are _considerably_ harder to play than warlocks, especially play well |
| 17:01.39 | Hobinheim|work | try warlock when you're feeling saucy |
| 17:01.46 | Hobinheim|work | sancus, what? |
| 17:01.48 | sancus | Warlocks have a lot of things to fall back on and are effectively invincible in most outdoor pvp situations |
| 17:01.51 | Hobinheim|work | locks have more options |
| 17:01.55 | Hobinheim|work | lol invincible |
| 17:02.00 | sancus | If you fuck up your timing as a mage, you may as well just sit down because you've lost |
| 17:02.17 | Hobinheim|work | i think it's harder to be a great warlock than it is to be a great mage |
| 17:02.22 | sancus | I don't |
| 17:02.30 | sancus | and I know some of the best warlocks in the whole game :P |
| 17:02.44 | voidvector | sancus, you are talking about pvp, timing doesn't make much diff in PvE/raid |
| 17:02.44 | Julien | now what about priests |
| 17:02.45 | equiraptor | I think it's harder to be a pretty good warlock than to be a pretty good mage. |
| 17:02.49 | equiraptor | At least in raiding. |
| 17:02.53 | sancus | one of THE best raiding warlocks in the game |
| 17:02.57 | Hobinheim|work | priests get shit on. everyone loves blaming the priest |
| 17:02.59 | sancus | uses exactly 7 buttons in raids |
| 17:03.01 | Hobinheim|work | high burn out rate... |
| 17:03.01 | equiraptor | As far as "great" goes, I dunno. |
| 17:03.02 | sancus | not joking |
| 17:03.14 | sancus | and only 5 of them regularly |
| 17:03.15 | Julien | what about shadow priest |
| 17:03.23 | Hobinheim|work | shadow priest, great for TBC |
| 17:03.28 | sancus | coa -> corruption -> immolate -< shadowbolt until its time to repeat |
| 17:03.29 | Hobinheim|work | but very tiresome cuz they don't have lots of spells |
| 17:03.36 | sancus | and that will outdamage any mage in the game, no contest |
| 17:03.46 | Hobinheim|work | sancus, sucky baseline mage then |
| 17:03.49 | sancus | nope |
| 17:03.58 | sancus | warlocks are mathematically superior damage dealers to mages |
| 17:04.01 | sancus | it's been shown more than once at this point |
| 17:04.10 | sancus | they were superior before the mage baseline nuke nerfs |
| 17:04.12 | sancus | now they're even more superior |
| 17:04.39 | Julien | so my choice is narrowed down to Druid or Warlock...hmmm.... |
| 17:04.52 | Hobinheim|work | wow that makes no sense |
| 17:04.57 | Hobinheim|work | in the traditional view of classes |
| 17:04.58 | sancus | http://wiki.shadowpriest.com/index.php?title=Caster_DPS_Comparison |
| 17:05.03 | Hobinheim|work | mage should be >>> warlock |
| 17:05.08 | Hobinheim|work | for single target dps |
| 17:05.09 | equiraptor | Julien: If you like casters, I'd recommend warlock over druid. |
| 17:05.21 | sancus | the traditional view of classes has nothing to do with the current status of dps capabilities |
| 17:05.24 | Hobinheim|work | i would recommend a mage over a warlock... |
| 17:05.34 | sancus | it also says that Shadow Priests shouldn't outdamage mages |
| 17:05.37 | sancus | yet they are quite capable of doing so |
| 17:05.43 | equiraptor | Julien: While druids can be casters, and are in raiding (healer and damage caster), I think you'd enjoy leveling more as a warlock caster than a druid caster. |
| 17:06.01 | Julien | okay |
| 17:06.02 | Julien | thanks |
| 17:06.04 | sancus | check out 'less extreme' at the bottom |
| 17:06.10 | Hobinheim|work | locks are sexier anyway |
| 17:06.17 | Hobinheim|work | lore wise you're hated by everyone |
| 17:06.20 | sancus | top 4 dps ranks? |
| 17:06.23 | Julien | does race really matter for warlock |
| 17:06.26 | Hobinheim|work | except others who delve into demonic magic |
| 17:06.36 | sancus | mage(using arcane blast spam, ROFL), _40 dps lower_, warlock, warlock, shadow priest |
| 17:06.38 | Hobinheim|work | for beginners, race does not matter period |
| 17:06.41 | Hobinheim|work | just have fun |
| 17:06.50 | Hobinheim|work | look into the story line if you want |
| 17:06.58 | Hobinheim|work | at the end of the day, it's about you having fun |
| 17:07.02 | voidvector | which faction do you plan to pick? alliance or horde? |
| 17:07.02 | Hobinheim|work | not who's better |
| 17:07.07 | Hobinheim|work | unless you align bette rwith having fun =) |
| 17:07.10 | Julien | alliance |
| 17:07.11 | Hobinheim|work | HORDE!!!! |
| 17:07.11 | sancus | if I were starting now and wanted to play a dps caster |
| 17:07.13 | sancus | I'd play a warlock |
| 17:07.14 | Hobinheim|work | ugh |
| 17:07.23 | sancus | because they're much easier to play than Mages and will be more effective in every aspect of pve |
| 17:07.29 | equiraptor | Julien: Then GNOME! Because Humans are boring. ;) |
| 17:07.29 | sancus | especially levelling |
| 17:07.35 | Julien | haha |
| 17:07.40 | Julien | what servers do you guys play on |
| 17:07.54 | equiraptor | My Alliance are on Whisperwind, my Horde on Bronzebeard. :) |
| 17:08.30 | sancus | outdoors in outland locks have god mode too which is really funny |
| 17:08.50 | equiraptor | I love the buffs from picking herbs. :) |
| 17:08.58 | Hobinheim|work | sancus why did you link that page, mages are at the top of the tables |
| 17:09.04 | sancus | no, they're not |
| 17:09.07 | sancus | you're not reading it right |
| 17:09.15 | Hobinheim|work | ? |
| 17:09.25 | sancus | those top rankings are for a fictional situation |
| 17:09.29 | Hobinheim|work | i'm not reading reading it but what else is it suppoesd to mean |
| 17:09.32 | sancus | "ignites roll, shared, 3 fire mages" |
| 17:09.56 | Julien | demonology or destruction warlock |
| 17:09.56 | sancus | ignites don't roll |
| 17:10.05 | Hobinheim|work | demonology = fun with pets and lots of defense |
| 17:10.08 | Hobinheim|work | destruciton = mage |
| 17:10.12 | Hobinheim|work | affliction = best for leveling |
| 17:10.24 | equiraptor | I <3 Affliction |
| 17:10.27 | Hobinheim|work | some say the new demonology is good for leveling also, but i doubt that |
| 17:10.32 | sancus | 1659.3 21.3 warlock 30aff_21demo_10dest |
| 17:10.44 | sancus | thats the highest dps caster in the game |
| 17:11.08 | sancus | the highest mage is |
| 17:11.09 | sancus | 1448.8 15.4 mage 10arcane_48fire_3frost 808 10 16 Ignites do not roll |
| 17:11.21 | Hobinheim|work | i don't konw what an ignite is =( |
| 17:11.27 | sancus | it's a mage talent |
| 17:11.31 | Hobinheim|work | oh well i'm getting swamped with work |
| 17:11.32 | Hobinheim|work | later |
| 17:11.33 | sancus | that produces a dot on the target when you crit |
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| 17:12.33 | Julien | thanks for all your help guys |
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| 17:24.49 | serenade | howdy |
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| 17:25.43 | serenade | anyone else play wow on their lunch break? :) |
| 17:26.10 | Tuqui-tuqui | I wish :< |
| 17:26.20 | Tuqui-tuqui | we dont have lunch breaks here |
| 17:26.26 | Tuqui-tuqui | we just eat whenever we have a chance |
| 17:26.38 | equiraptor | heh, yeah. |
| 17:26.41 | serenade | ah |
| 17:27.31 | Tuqui-tuqui | Im going to sell Blackie =\ |
| 17:27.40 | Tuqui-tuqui | he doesnt look good while im in a mount :< |
| 17:28.33 | serenade | where should i go after ghostlands |
| 17:29.52 | serenade | hillsbrad i guess |
| 17:30.12 | equiraptor | I have what's probably a noob question... :) |
| 17:30.36 | equiraptor | The pattern for Primal Mooncloth Bag is BoP. Everything I see lists it as both a drop and a vendor item. |
| 17:30.47 | equiraptor | Is it really both? |
| 17:31.12 | equiraptor | Is there some "catch," something you have to do to be able to buy the pattern, rather than getting the drop, or does the drop just save 6g? |
| 17:31.35 | sancus | its not a drop |
| 17:31.37 | sancus | its a vendor item |
| 17:31.54 | equiraptor | Someone claimed they got it from a drop. |
| 17:32.12 | equiraptor | It's also shown as a drop, off the mob they claimed, on every site I've checked. |
| 17:33.44 | sancus | maybe there's a bug and it does drop from something |
| 17:33.50 | equiraptor | I just want to know if I need to be leveling my tailor, or if level 60 is enough. |
| 17:33.55 | sancus | I doubt its supposed to |
| 17:34.10 | equiraptor | (I know, I can't specialize there, and I do want to level her eventually, but not yet). |
| 17:34.13 | equiraptor | Ok. Thanks. |
| 17:34.23 | sancus | even if it does drop, though, it definitely doesn't make it not bop |
| 17:34.32 | equiraptor | Right. |
| 17:34.56 | equiraptor | If the "vendored" part was the part that was wrong, I'd need to level her so she could kill the mob that's said to drop it. |
| 17:35.03 | sancus | I don't see why you would need to specialize or level past 60 to buy it off the shattrath vendor? |
| 17:35.09 | sancus | oh ok |
| 17:35.21 | equiraptor | If it *is* vendored, and there's no catch (which I don't see why there would be), then she doesn't need to level yet. |
| 17:35.35 | sancus | it is vendored |
| 17:35.40 | equiraptor | Great. |
| 17:35.42 | equiraptor | Then I will stop worrying. |
| 17:37.11 | equiraptor | Now, I guess I just need a good source of primal water. |
| 17:37.20 | sancus | meh |
| 17:37.27 | sancus | its not very hard to get the mats between the four day cooldowns |
| 17:38.04 | equiraptor | Yeah, but I don't want an eternal "gotta get mats." And with the number of alts I have, it would seem eternal. |
| 17:38.24 | sancus | elemental plateau is the best place to get elemental primals |
| 17:40.33 | equiraptor | Herbalism gets me a lot of the motes of life. They're piling up in the bank. |
| 17:41.14 | sancus | its behind the throne of elementals in nagrand, in the hills, flying mount only |
| 17:41.41 | equiraptor | The druid will be my first to fly. |
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| 18:20.03 | Zeal | lo all |
| 18:30.30 | equiraptor | Hello. :) |
| 18:31.12 | Zeal | bah, bbs wow |
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| 19:32.50 | foxlit | Meh, the amount of "wowwiki has a problem" is annoying :( |
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| 19:55.49 | Kirkburn | Hello hello |
| 19:55.54 | Adys | ello kirky |
| 19:56.05 | Kirkburn | Did anyone see the picture replacement someone did on the front page? |
| 19:56.50 | Adys | wah? |
| 19:56.56 | Kirkburn | If you didn't, I reverted and deleted it already ^^ |
| 19:57.03 | Kirkburn | They replaced the wiki logo with a fat man |
| 19:57.41 | Adys | >< |
| 19:58.17 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 19:58.37 | Kirkburn | I've just installed Vista, so busy setting up my desktop atm |
| 20:00.40 | Gryphen | weee |
| 20:01.56 | Gryphen | this fat man? |
| 20:01.56 | Gryphen | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Wikiicon-paperdump.png |
| 20:02.10 | Kirkburn | Yes |
| 20:02.33 | Gryphen | too busy to fix atm |
| 20:03.23 | Kirkburn | Sorted |
| 20:03.46 | Gryphen | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Wowwikiirc.png |
| 20:04.23 | Tuqui-tuqui | are whelping pets BoP or BoU? |
| 20:04.33 | kaso | bou iirc |
| 20:04.39 | kaso | at least when i last had one they were |
| 20:04.49 | Tuqui-tuqui | coolio |
| 20:04.56 | Tuqui-tuqui | so you can make amint selling them in AH? |
| 20:05.02 | Tuqui-tuqui | a mint* |
| 20:05.13 | kaso | if you feel like grinding them |
| 20:05.22 | kaso | they are quite mind nubingly low drop |
| 20:05.34 | Tuqui-tuqui | yeah, Im afraid of that |
| 20:05.37 | equiraptor | And I suspect there are more efficient ways to make money. |
| 20:05.41 | Tuqui-tuqui | well im going to grind for one |
| 20:05.44 | Tuqui-tuqui | I want one |
| 20:05.52 | Tuqui-tuqui | my pet snake looks mofo when in a mount |
| 20:05.57 | Kirkburn | Blocked and fixed images |
| 20:06.14 | kaso | Kirkburn, speaking of frontpage vandalism, shoudln't {{Policytoc/Content}} be protected as it's used in the mainpage. |
| 20:07.03 | Kirkburn | Done |
| 20:12.24 | kaso | what happens if you try to make a template like {{NUMBEROFARTICLES}} to over-ride that built in variable? would that work? not that sure how mediawiki works behind the scenes |
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| 20:13.11 | Tuqui-tuqui | wait... |
| 20:13.18 | Tuqui-tuqui | whelpings are found in badlands of wetlands |
| 20:13.23 | Tuqui-tuqui | or* |
| 20:13.30 | Kirkburn | Fun, he decided to target me |
| 20:15.20 | Kirkburn | Oh vandals, why are you so predictable? |
| 20:15.49 | equiraptor | Why are people so stupid? |
| 20:17.06 | Fin | MORE DETAILS TELL US MORE! |
| 20:18.16 | Kirkburn | zeal, regarding the rolling back of the vote - I meant it was an admin's job to oversee the implementation of a policy. All he did was say it was adopted, without telling anyone :/ |
| 20:18.29 | Kirkburn | Plus, of course, it does need more discussion |
| 20:18.53 | Fin | ooh |
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| 20:23.01 | Kirkburn | Make sure someone knows if that vandal comes back, I'm going semi-afk |
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| 21:48.52 | Kirochi | hello |
| 21:50.01 | Kirkburn|afk | Heya |
| 21:50.10 | Kirkburn|afk | Fun vandals we get these days, eh :P |
| 21:50.27 | Kirkburn|afk | At least it was more inspired than just randomly moving pages |
| 21:57.25 | dotted | woot? |
| 22:01.05 | Kirochi | Yup |
| 22:01.26 | Kirochi | Vandalism is way funnier than boilerplates |
| 22:02.04 | Kirkburn|afk | Now how on earth do I get to the nVidia control panel in Vista ... |
| 22:02.20 | Kirochi | HAHAHAHAHA YOU BOUGHT VISTA HAHAHAHAHA |
| 22:02.46 | Kirochi | ... |
| 22:02.50 | Kirochi | No, seriously |
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| 22:16.51 | Ludith | Something wrong with wowwiki.com? |
| 22:16.58 | Ludith | can't access the patch mirrors anymore |
| 22:17.26 | Ludith | nvm works now |
| 22:17.33 | Kirkburn|afk | heh |
| 22:17.35 | Kirkburn|afk | It happens |
| 22:17.52 | dotted | WoWWiki has a problem. |
| 22:18.13 | Kirkburn|afk | I would love to say there's a simple reason for it, but I'll just glare at sancus instead =) |
| 22:18.20 | Ludith | ^^ |
| 22:18.43 | sancus | no one is paying me for that to be my problem atm :P |
| 22:19.09 | Zeal | zangarmarsh lore on lorekeepers tonight Kirkburn|afk. beleive strixus is still sick, so nobu and kae will be doing it. |
| 22:19.16 | dotted | pff payment is highly overrated :p |
| 22:19.51 | Kirochi | Hey there. I'm afraid I didn't understand your sentence about lore and Zangarmarsh |
| 22:19.53 | bleetah | any lore experts about? I'm curious as to the relationship (if any) between the BElf Farstriders and the Farstrider Lodge in Loch Modan |
| 22:20.28 | Kirochi | I can't say I'm an expert |
| 22:20.48 | Kirochi | but I'm the BK Majordomo. I should do |
| 22:21.04 | bleetah | heh, well, anyone with half a clue then? ;) I find it.. a little odd... therefore there's no doubt some lore behind it |
| 22:21.32 | Kirochi | where are the BE farstriders located ? |
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| 22:21.43 | bleetah | g area |
| 22:21.46 | bleetah | ergh |
| 22:21.51 | Grem_Warsong | Is it possible to create 'custom events' ? |
| 22:21.51 | bleetah | all over the starting area |
| 22:21.53 | Kirochi | G spot ? |
| 22:22.01 | Kirochi | aww my bad |
| 22:22.15 | bleetah | Fartstrider seems to be some kind of near faction within the BElves |
| 22:22.22 | Grem_Warsong | I want to make my own event for when a specific functions ends |
| 22:22.25 | Zeal | bleetah. the Farstriders were the rangers of Quel'thalas. Farstrider lodge is in High Elven control. |
| 22:22.25 | Grem_Warsong | Is it possible to do that? |
| 22:22.39 | Zeal | so it is under alliance rule. |
| 22:23.17 | Zeal | the Farstrider faction is the Farstriders who are now Blood Elves. |
| 22:23.25 | bleetah | hmmm, so a rather intersting little split. The lodge always struck me as an inn-to-be. |
| 22:23.49 | Kirochi | The Farstriders Lodge in Loch Modan is but a remnant of what was the High Elven Alliance rangers'organization in the past |
| 22:24.09 | Grem_Warsong | Can anyone help me out and let me know if it's possible to create and register 'custom' events in LUA? |
| 22:24.30 | Kirochi | As of now it looks like the High Elf with FSL is one of the last High Elven Farstriders |
| 22:24.43 | Ludith | No idea, Grem |
| 22:25.17 | Kirkburn|afk | Yay for the British online radio gadget for Vista :D |
| 22:25.26 | Kirkburn|afk | Kirochi, Vista is awesome =) |
| 22:25.45 | Kirochi | Kirkburn|afk yes, if you download it |
| 22:25.56 | Zeal | lol |
| 22:25.57 | Kirkburn|afk | No, that's called stealing. |
| 22:26.08 | bleetah | given the npc discussion in silvermoon (can't remember exactly where, but it's like a town debate, someone gets summonsed in an mind controls the debaters), I'm kinda suspecting there may be some future possibilites of lore development there, which could be fun. |
| 22:26.36 | Kirkburn|afk | Zeal, so Zangarmarsh lore, eh? |
| 22:26.44 | Zeal | indeed |
| 22:26.53 | Zeal | think it'll probably focus on coilfang and the naga. |
| 22:27.02 | bleetah | (as my original main is a Nelf, he's always on the eye out for possibilities in lore that may lead him into a position to stab Staghelm in the eye several times ;-) |
| 22:27.08 | Kirochi | Screens needed |
| 22:27.11 | Zeal | as theres been some questions nad theories going round. |
| 22:27.28 | Zeal | lol bleetah |
| 22:27.38 | Karrion | Kirkburn|afk: actually it's called copyright infringement |
| 22:27.46 | Kirkburn|afk | Zeal, I'm listening to Xfm via a Vista sidebar gadget atm :) |
| 22:27.54 | bleetah | Kirkburn|afk: no, it's not stealing. It's economic development (as stated by the president of.. I think it was Romania, in front of Bill Gates!) |
| 22:28.03 | Zeal | so is that essentially DAB? :s |
| 22:28.14 | Kirkburn|afk | Yeah, pretty much |
| 22:28.26 | Zeal | i generally listen to LBC, heh. |
| 22:28.46 | Zeal | too much crappy music on the radio, prefer talk radio :) |
| 22:28.49 | Kirkburn|afk | ooh, I'm a Capital man. Or at least I was when Dr. Fox and Chris Tarrant were around |
| 22:29.07 | bleetah | dirtyradio.net .. no, it's not what you think. it's owned by the guys from Underworld. |
| 22:29.39 | Kirkburn|afk | Or do I mean Foxy? Whatever name he takes these days ... |
| 22:29.46 | Kirkburn|afk | Underworld? |
| 22:30.49 | Zeal | lol |
| 22:31.11 | Kirkburn|afk | Grem_Warsong, #wowi-lounge |
| 22:31.57 | bleetah | Karl Hyde and Rick Smith.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underworld_(band) |
| 22:34.35 | Kirkburn|afk | Wow, Office 2007 is severely fast |
| 22:35.20 | Kirkburn|afk | Thanks, I'll take a look bleetah |
| 22:36.14 | Zeal | i got pissed off. their beta application for that was bugged to fuck |
| 22:36.18 | Zeal | could like only half apply |
| 22:36.22 | Zeal | so never got to try it : / |
| 22:37.29 | Kirkburn|afk | I certainly recommend it |
| 22:37.55 | Kirochi | Has anyone played Vanguard yet ? |
| 22:38.16 | Zeal | they're scrapping office soon arn't they? |
| 22:38.28 | Zeal | got soem new rebranding going on |
| 22:47.26 | Zeal | hm.. might have been adobe :s |
| 22:47.36 | Zeal | but anyways.. i'm sad to see front page go. |
| 22:55.06 | Kirkburn|afk | It's just been renamed |
| 22:55.35 | Kirkburn|afk | Sharepoint, I think? Renamed and refocused, anyway |
| 22:55.46 | Zeal | nah |
| 22:56.05 | Zeal | it was like split up into 4-5 different studio type deals |
| 22:56.16 | Zeal | might have been adobe :s |
| 22:56.21 | Zeal | but i doubt it. |
| 22:57.28 | Zeal | ah.. expression |
| 22:57.48 | Zeal | http://www.microsoft.com/products/expression/en/default.mspx |
| 22:57.57 | Zeal | ok, will be running along side office |
| 22:58.03 | Zeal | it jsut takes over the media stuff. |
| 22:58.11 | Kirochi | test, write my nick please |
| 22:58.25 | Zeal | Kirochi |
| 22:58.33 | Kirochi | thanks |
| 22:58.52 | Kirochi | Highlighting had never worked before this day |
| 22:58.56 | Kirochi | \o/ |
| 22:58.59 | Zeal | lol |
| 22:59.08 | Zeal | i wrote my own, never liked the default one |
| 22:59.16 | Zeal | and don't like the girc one. |
| 22:59.37 | Kirochi | mine yells "BOOYAKACHA" and displays shitty colors |
| 22:59.42 | Kirochi | =) |
| 23:00.30 | Zeal | rofl |
| 23:00.39 | Kirkburn|afk | Ah, yes, Expression |
| 23:00.44 | Zeal | mine just beeps twice and echos who said what where :P |
| 23:00.50 | Kirochi | I've changed the sound for "Auuughiburgburgburgle" |
| 23:01.02 | Zeal | see if i can find an expression web torrent ;) |
| 23:01.23 | Kirochi | test again please |
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| 23:04.10 | Koilo | Kirochi |
| 23:04.18 | Koilo | aww, frightening |
| 23:05.20 | Zeal | Kirochi |
| 23:05.23 | Zeal | O_o |
| 23:05.29 | Kirochi | Murloc aggro |
| 23:07.30 | kaso | I have the murloc aggro on my ipod shuffle, its cool when it randomly plays |
| 23:08.10 | Kirochi | Me too, but it's usually better when s1 else is listening to my iPod |
| 23:09.33 | Kirochi | 'Yay P.Diddy ! Hey but ... WTF ?' 'Auughiburgburgle' 'Ouchies' |
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| 23:09.42 | Hobinheim|work | vv in the house? |
| 23:09.48 | Hobinheim|work | dargggg |
| 23:09.59 | Kirkburn|afk | hello |
| 23:10.05 | Hobinheim|work | i feel bad, i wanna say throttle your edits, but we all sorta know that that isn't the real cause of the problem |
| 23:10.18 | Hobinheim|work | yo Kirkburn|afk, what up |
| 23:10.53 | Kirkburn|afk | Installin' Vista, pimping my PC, etc etc |
| 23:11.28 | Hobinheim|work | in your pc, hacking your files |
| 23:11.32 | Hobinheim|work | vista huh... |
| 23:11.36 | Hobinheim|work | already localized for the uk |
| 23:11.37 | Grem_Warsong | How can I check to see if a UI element exists? |
| 23:11.42 | Hobinheim|work | i hear it's not that great for wow |
| 23:11.44 | Hobinheim|work | are you prepared? |
| 23:11.48 | Hobinheim|work | YOU ARE NOT PREPARED! |
| 23:11.56 | Hobinheim|work | if (object) ? |
| 23:12.06 | Grem_Warsong | that works? |
| 23:12.09 | Grem_Warsong | k |
| 23:12.15 | Hobinheim|work | i dunno.... try it |
| 23:12.24 | Hobinheim|work | i know it does in javascript, but now i can't rmeember an instance of me trying it |
| 23:12.39 | Hobinheim|work | but if anything, that would probably be it... |
| 23:12.41 | Kirkburn|afk | Hobinheim|work, if it wasn't that great for WoW, I would have been having problems for the last 3 months |
| 23:12.53 | Hobinheim|work | ahh someone said it lowers FPS |
| 23:12.56 | Hobinheim|work | so they scrapped it |
| 23:12.59 | Kirkburn|afk | And that was on the various betas :) |
| 23:12.59 | Hobinheim|work | "unacceptable!" |
| 23:13.09 | Kirkburn|afk | That's a driver thing tbh |
| 23:13.20 | Hobinheim|work | right right |
| 23:13.22 | Hobinheim|work | probably |
| 23:13.26 | Hobinheim|work | you got rucky? |
| 23:13.31 | Kirkburn|afk | heh |
| 23:13.37 | Hobinheim|work | dodged a bullet with your super lock powers? |
| 23:13.41 | Kirkburn|afk | The latest drivers should work as fast as XP |
| 23:13.58 | Hobinheim|work | so, what's kirkburn's seal of approval. yay, or nay? |
| 23:14.00 | Zeal | yeah was gunna say.. you complained plenty with the beta Kirkburn|afk ;) |
| 23:14.18 | Hobinheim|work | i guess installing it is sort of a yay |
| 23:14.31 | Hobinheim|work | i was thinking of installing gentoo on a spare machine.... |
| 23:14.41 | Kirkburn|afk | Oh yeah, there was instability and sound issues |
| 23:14.56 | Kirkburn|afk | Not had that kind of problem so far tonight :) |
| 23:15.17 | Kirochi | Does dodgeit work for anyone else ? |
| 23:15.23 | Hobinheim|work | i dunno i'm tempted, purely because i'm an MS whore... but... |
| 23:15.33 | Hobinheim|work | there's nothing IN YOUR FACE about it, imo. nothing really stand out |
| 23:15.47 | Hobinheim|work | and my hardware would probably not make an optimal experience |
| 23:16.04 | Hobinheim|work | anyway time to commute |
| 23:16.05 | Hobinheim|work | peace |
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| 23:16.21 | Kirochi | Does dodgeit work for anyone else ? |
| 23:16.30 | Kirkburn|afk | What's that? |
| 23:16.45 | Kirochi | free receive-only e-mail service |
| 23:16.54 | Kirochi | with no pw to worry about |
| 23:16.55 | Kirkburn|afk | Not come across it |
| 23:19.11 | Zeal | damn.. no torrents :( |
| 23:21.43 | Grem_Warsong | Does anyone know how to check if a particular UI element exists? |
| 23:21.48 | Grem_Warsong | if (object) doesnt seem to be working correctly |
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| 23:22.08 | Kirkburn|afk | Ask on #wowi-lounge ! |
| 23:22.19 | Grem_Warsong | isnt that where I am? |
| 23:22.20 | Grem_Warsong | lol |
| 23:22.22 | Grem_Warsong | hmm |
| 23:22.25 | Kirkburn|afk | =) |
| 23:22.31 | Kirkburn|afk | heh |
| 23:22.37 | Grem_Warsong | Thanks |
| 23:25.51 | Zeal | rofl |
| 23:29.28 | Kirochi | what's the matter with dok3dal ? |
| 23:29.47 | Zeal | always like that |
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| 23:49.32 | Kirochi | bye |
| 23:51.31 | Kirkburn|afk | see ya |
| 23:51.47 | Zeal | ok, well i'm gunna eat and watch a film |
| 23:52.02 | Zeal | let me know how lorekeepers goes if you listen in kirk ;) |
| 23:52.04 | Zeal | bbl |
| 23:52.08 | bleetah | better than eating a film and watching lunch |
