| 00:05.46 | Zeal | dsg;hjg;fdslh |
| 00:05.51 | Zeal | god dammit |
| 00:06.14 | Tusva | Am I to presume you can't get to the site now, either? |
| 00:18.08 | Zeal | slowiki |
| 00:19.29 | Tusva | nowiki for me. |
| 00:19.49 | Zeal | the wow wiki has an error problems happens after editing practically any page 9template or otherwise) that is included in a number of pages. dunno the amounts but, it seems to be propotionatly bad with the more a template is included |
| 00:20.10 | Zeal | well i just edited loot, so yeah. errors atm. |
| 00:33.04 | Kirkburn|afk | You love it really |
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| 00:38.37 | Zeal | Kirkburn|afk, that lore policy vote. is there a policy on how to deal with votes that are on the grounds bias and not relevent to the actual vote? :s |
| 00:38.46 | Zeal | *of bias |
| 00:39.29 | Zeal | *votes on the grounds of bias |
| 00:40.32 | Kirkburn|afk | I don't think that would be a good idea |
| 00:40.56 | Kirkburn|afk | Bad precedent and all that |
| 00:42.31 | Zeal | so is allowing a policy to pass under false pretenses. |
| 00:42.35 | Zeal | : / |
| 00:42.48 | Zeal | i'm mainly talking about the latest vote listed. |
| 00:42.48 | Kirkburn|afk | Are you saying the votes are all biased then? |
| 00:42.55 | Zeal | no, not at all. |
| 00:43.32 | Kirkburn|afk | I don't mind extending a vote for futher discussion |
| 00:45.33 | Zeal | whole fact the policy doesn't properly explain the issue at hand and simply proposes a stop gap to appease user controversy, while proper refrencing and citation would long eliminate the need pisses me off. |
| 00:46.05 | Zeal | means people just come along, not knowing what the issue is and say "hey, this sounds like it might be helpful, i'll vote yes" |
| 00:46.21 | Kirkburn|afk | I would agree there, it's a stopgap measure not a real solution |
| 00:46.37 | Zeal | and then the others "this mean appendix3 stuff will get shown in a bad way, so i'll vote yes too" |
| 00:46.57 | Zeal | aye : / |
| 00:47.05 | Zeal | refrence policy ftw. |
| 00:47.10 | Zeal | *reference. |
| 00:47.33 | Kirkburn|afk | Woo, friendly with the Lower City |
| 00:48.27 | Kirkburn|afk | wtf, level 65 person without an epic mount :/ |
| 00:48.59 | Kirkburn|afk | What the hell do they do with their money? |
| 00:49.59 | Kirkburn|afk | Woah, what the hell, never seen this camp in Terokkar before |
| 00:50.10 | Kirkburn|afk | Surprised all round, tonight |
| 00:50.35 | Zeal | heh |
| 00:50.43 | Zeal | i never got an epic mount the whole time i was 60 |
| 00:51.24 | Kirkburn|afk | How long were you 60 :) |
| 00:51.30 | Zeal | had stable about 2/3 of the money for it. |
| 00:51.40 | Zeal | hm.. dunno to be exact, 6 months? :s |
| 00:52.55 | Zeal | and not a big raider either. |
| 00:57.46 | Kirkburn|afk | lol, and no returns? |
| 01:00.32 | Zeal | rofl |
| 01:00.40 | Zeal | always did forget that part :P |
| 01:01.08 | Zeal | ghod damn, LAN clashes with Within Temptation gig :( |
| 01:01.11 | Zeal | *god |
| 01:01.47 | Zeal | it all dpends how many firends go to the lan, it looks like i've got two swedish friends, a finish friend hows now living here, and 3 uk friends. |
| 01:01.51 | Zeal | *depends |
| 01:02.03 | Zeal | *who's |
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| 02:20.20 | Zeal | nn all |
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| 14:21.32 | Tepetkhet | urgh |
| 14:21.38 | Tepetkhet | Well, this is cool. |
| 14:22.07 | Tepetkhet | I found a website comparing different content management systems. |
| 14:22.21 | Tepetkhet | Very nice. |
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| 14:23.56 | Tuqui-tuqui | ¡oooW |
| 14:24.53 | de_RiN | The one with the automated reset after some while to first installment, Tepetkhet? |
| 14:26.03 | Tepetkhet | Automated reset? |
| 14:28.27 | de_RiN | yeah |
| 14:28.32 | de_RiN | some installements where you can login as admin |
| 14:28.35 | de_RiN | do some stuff |
| 14:28.53 | de_RiN | and after a while you screwed up the installment. So it is on a timer the resets all to the first installment for all packages on the site. |
| 14:29.07 | de_RiN | That was on a site I have seen a while ago |
| 14:29.28 | de_RiN | even had some stuff like oscommerce installments, not really CMS but sales site examples, etc. |
| 14:29.46 | amro | I hate all CMSes I've tried |
| 14:29.52 | Tepetkhet | uh |
| 14:29.54 | amro | http://orangoo.com/skeletonz/ looks nice though |
| 14:30.13 | Tepetkhet | I was just looking at a comparison of the features and requirements. |
| 14:30.19 | de_RiN | ah I see |
| 14:30.28 | de_RiN | I will lookup the site I am mentioning, brb. |
| 14:30.34 | Tepetkhet | Like does it require MySQL, Postgresql, or what? |
| 14:30.53 | amro | most can use either nowadays |
| 14:30.57 | Tepetkhet | http://www.cmsmatrix.org/matrix/cms-matrix |
| 14:31.15 | Tepetkhet | Well, from what I can tell, e107 and Joomla and Mambo all want MySQL. |
| 14:32.17 | amro | hm doesn't joomla run under pgsql as well? |
| 14:32.49 | de_RiN | http://opensourcecms.com/index.php check on left side CMS Demo Menu |
| 14:32.54 | de_RiN | Excelent stuff |
| 14:34.07 | amro | ew windows tree |
| 14:35.20 | amro | why are 99% of CMSes in PHP? |
| 14:35.52 | sancus | because its the most popular web back-end language |
| 14:36.48 | amro | its a pain to code in |
| 14:37.29 | sancus | as for why its the most popular |
| 14:37.34 | sancus | its the easiest to learn |
| 14:38.18 | sancus | as opposed to what? :p |
| 14:38.48 | Tepetkhet | Joomla requires MySQL 3.23.x or above. |
| 14:39.01 | equiraptor | ewwwww, old mysql.... |
| 14:39.15 | Tepetkhet | At least it's way backwards compatible. |
| 14:39.16 | Tepetkhet | I guess. |
| 14:39.22 | Tepetkhet | I duno. I don't use MySQL. |
| 14:39.30 | amro | What do you use? |
| 14:39.40 | equiraptor | But you don't want backwards compatibility with "Here, let me eat your data!" |
| 14:39.45 | Tepetkhet | hahaha |
| 14:39.52 | Tepetkhet | I use Postgresql. |
| 14:39.56 | amro | Sancus, PHP is easy for web development, but it kinda sucks IMO |
| 14:40.43 | amro | ive never used pgsql. doesn't it use the same SQL commands as MySQL? |
| 14:40.44 | sancus | again, opposed to what |
| 14:40.55 | sancus | no |
| 14:41.07 | equiraptor | It doesn't have to suck compared with anything to still suck. :) |
| 14:41.10 | sancus | very very few sql databases 'use the same commands' as any other database |
| 14:41.16 | amro | for ex if you have a function that returns an array, you can't do GetArray()[0] |
| 14:42.03 | Tepetkhet | So I guess that settles it. |
| 14:43.08 | amro | sancus, pgsql's website links to w3schools' SQL page |
| 14:43.25 | amro | i use those commands with mysql |
| 14:43.44 | sancus | ./sigh |
| 14:43.49 | sancus | its a lot more complicated than that |
| 14:44.15 | amro | mind explaining, without sighing this time? |
| 14:44.17 | sancus | mysql and postgresql both 'sortof' follow the sql standard, postgresql moreso than mysql, but there are a lot of subtle differences in what is supported and what isnt |
| 14:44.33 | sancus | so no, they don't use the same commands, except for the most basic stuff |
| 14:45.33 | Tepetkhet | Oh, oh, wait. ..|.. is obscene. |
| 14:45.48 | sancus | its generally not HARD to convert a mysql app to pgsql, but there is definitely some conversion involved |
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| 14:46.25 | equiraptor | I think the critical thing here is that sql isn't just some commands. It needs the right syntax. |
| 14:46.51 | equiraptor | So while the commands may seem the same, unless you alter the syntax the right way (and sometimes the commands themselves, depending), things aren't going to work as expected. |
| 14:46.59 | Tepetkhet | I do not have the interest or inclination to make a conversion if I don't have to. |
| 14:47.07 | Tepetkhet | I'm not getting paid for this. |
| 14:47.16 | Tuqui-tuqui | youre not? |
| 14:47.32 | Tepetkhet | So ease of installation, compatibility without having to hack or work around... |
| 14:47.32 | Tuqui-tuqui | ¬.¬ |
| 14:47.35 | Tepetkhet | uh |
| 14:47.38 | sancus | I'm not telling you to convert |
| 14:47.42 | Tepetkhet | I wasn't talking about WoWWiki. |
| 14:47.45 | sancus | just explaining the differences to amro |
| 14:47.50 | Tepetkhet | I know, sancus. |
| 14:48.18 | sancus | mysql is more commonly supported because it won the marketing war, which sucks, unfortunately |
| 14:48.28 | equiraptor | Because mysql sucks. |
| 14:48.39 | Tepetkhet | I want to make a website for my guild that will run on my server with a minimum of hacks and effort. |
| 14:48.44 | amro | hm well looking around pgsql docs, it shouldn't be too hard to implement an abstraction layer for both |
| 14:48.48 | Tepetkhet | Preferably no hacks. |
| 14:50.59 | sancus | you can't really implement an abstraction layer for both easily |
| 14:51.15 | sancus | a postgresql app would most likely use sql capabilities that mysql just doesnt have |
| 14:52.05 | sancus | f ex if you want to use views |
| 14:52.11 | sancus | you're not doing that in mysql |
| 14:52.11 | Tepetkhet | See what I can do with it. |
| 14:53.50 | Qultak | sancus: MySQL does have views. Granted, it's a fairly new feature. |
| 14:54.30 | equiraptor | Do they work in myiasm (or whatever it is), or just innodb? |
| 14:54.36 | amro | of course the abstraction layer would be limited, but that's the price to pay for compatibility |
| 14:54.49 | Qultak | I have no idea, I'm not a mysql fanboi... I just know they are there =) |
| 14:55.20 | Qultak | Transactions only work for innodb, that's about how deep my mysql knowledge is =) |
| 14:55.28 | equiraptor | Bah. You were supposed to have the answers! |
| 14:56.06 | equiraptor | I know that you can try to make an innodb table, but if your binary doesn't support it, it will just make myiasm without warning you. And silently pretend to make things like foreign keys. |
| 14:56.23 | equiraptor | And then suddenly things break. |
| 14:56.46 | Qultak | Arf |
| 14:57.30 | equiraptor | I try to remember the really scary sounding stuff my DBA friends mention. I don't really know anything myself. :) |
| 14:57.52 | Qultak | Aww... and here you came off as really clever and stuff :P |
| 14:58.03 | Qultak | Turns out you're just as clueless as the rest of us ;-) |
| 14:58.07 | sancus | I guess my standard 'mysql doesnt have this so fuck mysql' example has to be updated |
| 14:58.24 | sancus | s/views/one of the other fifty million things it still doesnt support, instead :P |
| 14:58.28 | equiraptor | Yeah, I wanted to kill that impression before I said something that made it obvious, Qultak. ;) |
| 14:58.51 | equiraptor | How about "warning you when something doesn't do quite what you said"? |
| 14:59.05 | Qultak | Good to see you're not at all opinionated, sancus ;-) |
| 14:59.06 | equiraptor | That seems like a kind of important feature that's pretty frequently missing. |
| 14:59.45 | Qultak | But if it warns you then you wouldn't need to go on really expensive DBA training courses and then how would the mysql folks make their money? ;-) |
| 14:59.49 | sancus | Qultak: It's still true that postgresql has a lot of advanced features that mysql does not, even in the newest versions |
| 15:00.27 | Qultak | Yes; I prefer pgsql myself, too, but to claim that mysql is primitive crap that's not good for anything is pushing it. |
| 15:00.46 | Qultak | That was true 10 years ago. It is not true today. |
| 15:00.59 | sancus | I didn't say it wasn't good for anything, just that i don't really know of very many valid technical reasons to use it over pgsql |
| 15:01.21 | sancus | other than 'x support it and I dont want to do any extra work', which of course, is a pretty valid reason |
| 15:01.23 | equiraptor | It seems like the most common reason is, "it's popular." Which is a sad reason. |
| 15:01.24 | sancus | er supports |
| 15:01.35 | sancus | but a reasonable one |
| 15:01.39 | equiraptor | Yeah. |
| 15:01.51 | sancus | If you have your organization, and you have 10 different pieces of web software you need your IT people to support |
| 15:02.00 | sancus | mysql covers them all, but pgsql only covers 5 |
| 15:02.09 | sancus | it's more efficient to just support mysql and be done with it |
| 15:02.53 | sancus | sadly logistics often trump what is technically superior |
| 15:03.33 | Qultak | Often because it's irrelevant that something is technically superior if it is so in areas you don't need/use. |
| 15:06.04 | amro | dammit apt-get installed an obsolete version of pgsql |
| 15:07.20 | sancus | sure |
| 15:07.22 | sancus | but even when its not :p |
| 15:08.28 | Qultak | Yea, unfortunately this is also true, sancus... maybe in a perfect dream world there would only be one programming language, one db, one os, and everyone would be happy... :P |
| 15:10.01 | sancus | I'd settle for a world where marketing doesn't rule all, actually! |
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| 15:11.03 | Qultak | Wouldn't that eventually result in everyone using the same, perfect, thing? |
| 15:11.28 | amro | in a perfect worl there wouldn't be programming languages and computers would just figure out what we want them to do on their own |
| 15:11.49 | amro | and they would know how to make sandwiches |
| 15:11.52 | sancus | there isnt a perfect thing |
| 15:12.04 | sancus | so, no |
| 15:12.58 | sancus | not every language or database or whatever is superior or inferior to every other one, some are just different |
| 15:20.34 | Tepetkhet | Qultak: There would still be diversity. |
| 15:21.01 | Tepetkhet | Just like there are flathead screwdrivers, philips screwdrivers, and those weird torx ones. |
| 15:21.40 | Qultak | Even if there's nobody around to convince you product A is better than product B? (ie., marketing) |
| 15:21.42 | Tepetkhet | And there are some people who insist on using a flathead screwdriver for everything. |
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| 15:22.05 | Qultak | And why do they insist on it? What formed their opinion? |
| 15:22.12 | Tepetkhet | Because it's there. |
| 15:22.14 | Tepetkhet | Or whatever. |
| 15:22.17 | Tepetkhet | Seriously. |
| 15:22.18 | Qultak | Marketing is more insidious that one might expect... |
| 15:22.31 | Tepetkhet | I do know people who use flathead screwdrivers for everything. |
| 15:22.37 | Tepetkhet | End up stripping the darned screws, too. |
| 15:22.40 | Qultak | Me recommending product A to you over product B is also marketing. |
| 15:22.42 | Tepetkhet | Really tear things up. |
| 15:23.10 | Tepetkhet | They do it because they're lazy or cheap or they don't know better or just because it's there. |
| 15:23.15 | Qultak | And yes, I never got the pros of flathead screws, only the cons. |
| 15:23.33 | amro | you can use it as a mini-crowbar |
| 15:23.37 | Tepetkhet | Different tools for different jobs. |
| 15:23.46 | sancus | really depends on whether the recommendation is valid or not |
| 15:23.46 | Qultak | Hehe |
| 15:24.11 | sancus | a lot of the time, with marketing, it isnt even remotely valid |
| 15:24.31 | Tepetkhet | heh |
| 15:24.40 | sancus | my wish is the same thing as wishing people weren't stupid though, and that's not very realistic ;p |
| 15:25.00 | Tepetkhet | Flathead Screwdiver, new and improved with cushioned grip for eash leverage! |
| 15:25.08 | Qultak | Hey, I like my stupidity *cradles it in his arms like a smelly baby* |
| 15:25.11 | equiraptor | We need to go back to letting people die from their own stupidity. |
| 15:25.12 | Tepetkhet | s/eash/easy/ |
| 15:25.57 | Qultak | WTF? |
| 15:26.11 | Tepetkhet | Flathead Screwdriver will screw and unscrew a variety of screws with ease! Ultimate versatility! And wait, there's more! It will easily open paint cans, too! |
| 15:26.31 | Tepetkhet | Act now and you will receive replacement screws for all the screw heads you strip with it! |
| 15:26.54 | equiraptor | No, tep, that's admitting a fault. |
| 15:27.04 | Tepetkhet | That's not froth. |
| 15:27.07 | Tepetkhet | That's coffee foam. |
| 15:27.13 | Qultak | *lol* |
| 15:27.14 | equiraptor | Act now and you will receive replacement screns for all those inferior designed screw heads! |
| 15:27.23 | Tepetkhet | Ahhhh...there you go, equi. |
| 15:27.35 | equiraptor | Er, only with proper spelling. And stuff. |
| 15:27.39 | equiraptor | Brain no worky today. |
| 15:27.53 | Tepetkhet | "Sun servers getting you down? Don't worry! We have replacement flathead screws for their pesky non-standard hard drives, too!" |
| 15:28.28 | Tepetkhet | Okay, I think this screwdriver analogy is getting a little out of control. |
| 15:28.32 | equiraptor | I like my weird screws. |
| 15:29.00 | equiraptor | Of course, I can never remember the name. |
| 15:29.08 | amro | pgsql is crying "role 'root' does not exist" |
| 15:29.12 | Qultak | Weirdest screws I ever saw were like phillips but the insets were angled so you couldn't unscrew them. |
| 15:29.23 | Tepetkhet | torx |
| 15:29.37 | Tepetkhet | equiraptor |
| 15:29.42 | equiraptor | Yeah, torx is the one I like. |
| 15:29.45 | Tepetkhet | I think that's what the * head screws are called. |
| 15:29.48 | equiraptor | Yeah. |
| 15:29.55 | equiraptor | I have to look it up on wikipedia every time. :) |
| 15:30.21 | Tepetkhet | Look it up on Teppypedia. |
| 15:30.31 | equiraptor | Yay! Teppy! |
| 15:30.45 | Tepetkhet | Unfortunately... |
| 15:30.49 | Tepetkhet | Teppypedia has a problem. |
| 15:32.23 | Tepetkhet | Slowteppy |
| 15:33.47 | Tepetkhet | Article not found. Click here to edit. |
| 15:34.35 | amro | vandals |
| 15:36.11 | Tepetkhet | Article expired. |
| 15:36.14 | Tepetkhet | Actually. |
| 15:36.35 | Tepetkhet | hm |
| 15:36.40 | Tepetkhet | Okay, style question for actual hardcopy. |
| 15:36.54 | Tepetkhet | There is a 3-ring binder full of maps and directions. |
| 15:37.27 | Tepetkhet | For the maps that are oriented short-side up, it's easy to tell the direction they'll go in the binder. |
| 15:37.40 | Tepetkhet | But for maps that are oriented long-side up, which way do they go? |
| 15:38.29 | Tepetkhet | Is the "top" oriented close to the inner spine, or the opposite? |
| 15:39.48 | Tepetkhet | I think the opposite. |
| 15:40.10 | Tepetkhet | So the writing goes top to bottom. |
| 15:41.32 | amro | writing should be closer to the edge |
| 15:41.33 | equiraptor | Are you putting maps on both sides of a page, or just one? |
| 15:41.46 | Tepetkhet | Just one. |
| 15:41.56 | Tepetkhet | And I think I just solved my problem. |
| 15:42.17 | Tepetkhet | The street labels tend to go a certain wai. |
| 15:42.18 | Tepetkhet | er, way |
| 15:42.37 | Tepetkhet | So if I turn the map the "wrong" way, half the street labels are upside-down. |
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| 15:48.58 | Tepetkhet | I had a web designer/artist who was in my guild who was going to do logo art for the site. |
| 15:49.15 | Tepetkhet | This person decided they really wanted to take the free transfer to a new server and left. |
| 15:50.13 | amro | =( |
| 15:50.14 | Tepetkhet | Is it bad to ask this person if they're going to finish the art? |
| 15:50.27 | Tepetkhet | Not like they have a lot of motivation now. |
| 15:50.31 | amro | no, but dont expect them to |
| 15:51.18 | Tepetkhet | Maybe I should offer a commission fee? |
| 15:52.13 | amro | just how fancy a logo is it? =) |
| 15:52.26 | Tepetkhet | Just some silly art. |
| 15:52.49 | Tepetkhet | Banner art. |
| 16:17.55 | amro | what the hell |
| 16:18.14 | amro | DB-API 2.0 compliant python modules don't behave alike, at all |
| 16:18.32 | amro | what's the point of the spec? dammit i hate crap like this |
| 16:37.10 | Zeal | once again, i discover why wikimarkup fails even more.. |
| 16:39.34 | Tepetkhet | Nobody had posted anyting after the xpac came out. |
| 16:39.37 | Tepetkhet | So I posted... |
| 16:39.39 | Tepetkhet | Void if Removed [H] one-shotted Omor the Unscarred last night. ;) |
| 16:40.10 | Tepetkhet | And now a level 68 is posting how his guild downed this and that boss in AQ40. |
| 16:40.15 | Tepetkhet | whee |
| 16:52.12 | nemppu | you killed omor the unscarred with a single blow / spell ? |
| 16:52.32 | Tepetkhet | Not that kind of one-shotted. |
| 16:52.33 | equiraptor | one shot as in one attempt, not one shot as in one blow/spell. |
| 16:52.41 | nemppu | Tepetkhet that's one shotting |
| 16:52.42 | equiraptor | IE they didn't wipe and then try again. |
| 16:52.57 | Tepetkhet | There are 2 kinds of one-shotting used in WoW. |
| 16:53.18 | nemppu | the only proper usage is killing with a single blow/spell |
| 16:53.23 | Tepetkhet | Incorrect. |
| 16:53.31 | equiraptor | Proper according to whom? |
| 16:54.05 | nemppu | what kind of a one_shot_ is it if you have plenty of people punching the thing plenty of times >:| |
| 16:54.30 | equiraptor | It's "one shot" where "shot" is used to mean "attempt." |
| 16:54.39 | equiraptor | They took down the mob in one attemp. |
| 16:54.40 | Tepetkhet | This is your one shot to provide a citation. |
| 16:54.41 | Tepetkhet | heh |
| 16:54.42 | equiraptor | Er, attempt. |
| 16:55.03 | nemppu | no, using one-shotting that way is lame >:| |
| 16:55.08 | nemppu | and here's a citation: |
| 16:55.17 | nemppu | [18:53:21] <nemppu> the only proper usage is killing with a single blow/spell |
| 16:55.23 | nemppu | kjeh kjeh kjeh |
| 16:55.24 | equiraptor | Maybe according to you, but a significant percentage of the Wow population uses it that way. |
| 16:55.44 | nemppu | significant precentage of the WoW population are retarded |
| 16:55.49 | nemppu | metaphorical |
| 16:55.51 | Tepetkhet | Who are you again, nemppu? |
| 16:56.06 | nemppu | you dont know me |
| 16:56.37 | Tepetkhet | Let's keep it that way. |
| 16:56.46 | nemppu | :D |
| 16:56.57 | nemppu | getting mad about my opinions are you? |
| 16:57.15 | Tepetkhet | No. I just don't like opinions being presented as fact. |
| 16:59.08 | nemppu | how about facts presented as opinions? |
| 17:00.50 | Zeal | they are both valid. a difference would probably be inthe way you use it. "We killed him in one-shot" (attempt) "We killed him with one-shot" (attack) "We one-shotted him" (both) "We did it in one-shot" (attempt) "We did it with one-shot" (attack) etc. |
| 17:01.09 | Zeal | i personally can't see the point in saying one-shot for attempt |
| 17:01.24 | Zeal | one go, one attempt, one try.. all seem more logical to me. |
| 17:01.30 | nemppu | touche |
| 17:01.31 | equiraptor | I don't *like* that use, and I don't use it myself. But I don't argue with people who use it that they're wrong. |
| 17:01.50 | nemppu | [18:39:43] <Tepetkhet> Void if Removed [H] one-shotted Omor the Unscarred last night. ;) |
| 17:02.25 | Zeal | lol |
| 17:03.09 | Zeal | hm... "first-attempt-killed"? :p |
| 17:03.27 | nemppu | "killed Omor the Unscarred first attempt" ? |
| 17:03.37 | Zeal | but thats longer and not cool ;) |
| 17:03.42 | nemppu | aha :P |
| 17:03.57 | Tepetkhet | Attempt implies failure. |
| 17:04.09 | nemppu | omor1try last nite? |
| 17:04.10 | nemppu | :D |
| 17:04.11 | Zeal | no it doesn;t :S |
| 17:04.28 | equiraptor | Attempt implies *possibility* of failure. |
| 17:04.35 | equiraptor | But not that failure occured. |
| 17:04.43 | Zeal | it is what it is. an attempt to succed with the outcome left open. |
| 17:04.43 | nemppu | [19:04:01] <Tepetkhet> Attempt implies failure. <-- incorrect |
| 17:05.12 | Zeal | it's liek saying mutation implies negative effects.. mutation does not determine the outcome, it could be negative, it could be possitive. |
| 17:05.13 | Tepetkhet | Attempt implies possibility of failure. |
| 17:05.27 | Zeal | also implies possibility of success. |
| 17:05.33 | nemppu | but if youre saying you pwned him with first attemptit cleraly means you succeeded |
| 17:05.40 | equiraptor | Duuuh. |
| 17:06.15 | equiraptor | So... Why is the implied possibility of failure bad? |
| 17:06.24 | equiraptor | Since you obviously didn't fail? |
| 17:07.39 | Tepetkhet | Because failure would be disappointing, had it occured. |
| 17:07.48 | equiraptor | But it didn't. |
| 17:08.17 | Tepetkhet | On my server and around most people I know, "we one-shotted a boss" = "we killed it on our first try with no wipes." |
| 17:08.34 | equiraptor | I don't think we're arguing that point, anymore. :) |
| 17:09.12 | Tepetkhet | Now we're arguing a particular choice of words over another? |
| 17:09.22 | equiraptor | Yup. Semantics. Yay! |
| 17:09.42 | Tepetkhet | Connotations. Psychology. |
| 17:09.44 | equiraptor | I think people don't like "attempt" because the implied possibility of failure seems like admitting weakness. |
| 17:10.25 | Tepetkhet | Right. |
| 17:10.25 | nemppu | Tepetkhet server type? |
| 17:10.25 | Tepetkhet | PvE |
| 17:10.25 | equiraptor | Though bothering to state that you took it down in one attempt admits the possibility that you didn't, anyway. |
| 17:10.25 | equiraptor | So.... |
| 17:10.27 | nemppu | probably mostly consists of retards, then ;) |
| 17:10.41 | equiraptor | So do PvP realms. ;-P |
| 17:10.45 | nemppu | yep |
| 17:10.48 | equiraptor | And RP. And RP-PvP. |
| 17:10.50 | equiraptor | And... |
| 17:10.53 | nemppu | yeeep |
| 17:10.59 | nemppu | WoW is too mainstream :P |
| 17:11.07 | equiraptor | And people are dumb. |
| 17:11.11 | nemppu | that, too |
| 17:11.40 | nemppu | but the dumbest of dumb tend to hang around with other dumb people and like what they like and thus create the mainstream |
| 17:12.07 | equiraptor | Idiocy feeds on itself. |
| 17:12.15 | equiraptor | This is why Barrens chat is such a pain. |
| 17:12.33 | Zeal | everyone attempts bosses. nothing bad in admitting you took you several tries on a boss. |
| 17:12.38 | nemppu | barrens chat is very legendary |
| 17:12.38 | Tepetkhet | Words like violence...break the silence - come crashing down into my little world. |
| 17:12.42 | Zeal | *it took |
| 17:12.43 | nemppu | because.. barrens chat just is universal |
| 17:12.46 | nemppu | it's on every server |
| 17:12.49 | nemppu | every continent |
| 17:12.57 | nemppu | everyone knows what barrens chat is about |
| 17:13.05 | Zeal | Ghostlands has become barrens chat for TBC btw.. |
| 17:13.20 | equiraptor | I left General on my new BEs and Draenei. |
| 17:13.24 | Tepetkhet | Zeal: It's a bragging thread. "My guild has progressed this far. We've taken down this boss and that boss and..." |
| 17:13.26 | equiraptor | I even stay in General in Barrens. |
| 17:13.45 | Tepetkhet | Therefor it is not acceptable to admit weakness or defeat in that particular thread. |
| 17:13.48 | Zeal | i stay in barrens chat, i just usually switch to another tab though :P |
| 17:13.56 | Zeal | well that's silly |
| 17:14.16 | Zeal | it's a pissing contest where no one admits they miss or dripped :P |
| 17:14.22 | equiraptor | The EPEEN thread. |
| 17:14.26 | Tepetkhet | Uh, yeah. |
| 17:14.32 | Tepetkhet | It's a guild progression thread. |
| 17:15.49 | Tepetkhet | If I am not mistaken, it's probably the kind of list that sancus would like to be on top of. |
| 17:16.22 | Zeal | O_o |
| 17:16.28 | equiraptor | random: A friend of mine knows a girl named Chlamydia. |
| 17:17.01 | Zeal | lol |
| 17:17.02 | nemppu | :d |
| 17:17.27 | equiraptor | The parents said, "No one thinks of that when they see our girl. It's just a pretty word." |
| 17:17.37 | nemppu | :D |
| 17:17.43 | equiraptor | "No, you can't call her Lydia in class. Her name's Chlamydia." |
| 17:18.02 | Tepetkhet | Does she have a brother named Herpes? |
| 17:18.11 | equiraptor | Heh |
| 17:18.32 | Tepetkhet | Silly words and their silly psychological triggers and connotations... |
| 17:19.26 | Zeal | and together, their both in a emo band called, Suddenly They Died |
| 17:19.30 | Zeal | *they're |
| 17:20.30 | equiraptor | I want my RAM. |
| 17:21.29 | equiraptor | Ooh, Hot Pastrami is the sub-of-the-week at the local sub shop. |
| 17:21.35 | equiraptor | I've never had it. Should I give it a try? :) |
| 17:22.03 | nemppu | yep, you should |
| 17:22.14 | nemppu | experimental = kewl |
| 17:22.21 | equiraptor | heh |
| 17:22.43 | equiraptor | I've only had one sub from them I didn't like. Egg salad. I don't like egg salad, so I didn't expect to like the sub. |
| 17:22.57 | nemppu | xD |
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| 17:28.52 | Adys | Zeal! |
| 17:28.55 | Adys | you around? |
| 17:29.14 | Zeal | oh ffs |
| 17:29.17 | Zeal | what adys? |
| 17:29.31 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Template:Effect&action=edit - is it possible to add a condition as in |
| 17:29.48 | Adys | if {{{2}}}="socket" then template = different :P |
| 17:30.14 | Adys | if arg2 is socket I want to get rid of the colspan=2 style="color: #0f0;" | {{{2}}}: |
| 17:30.23 | Adys | and replace by colspan=2 style="color: #AAAAAA;" | Socket Bonus: |
| 17:30.40 | Zeal | adys, have you read you talk page? |
| 17:30.45 | Zeal | *my talk |
| 17:30.59 | Adys | not yet nope sec |
| 17:32.03 | Adys | got it now yeah but still need to update Effect |
| 17:32.49 | Zeal | i see no reason to unless you can prove socket bonuses have spell effect links in the database. |
| 17:32.55 | Zeal | i'd look, but lazy. |
| 17:33.31 | Zeal | enjoy a slow wiki, courtesy of mediwiki and idiots.. |
| 17:33.32 | Adys | http://www.thottbot.com/?i=56014 |
| 17:33.36 | Adys | sp=21360 |
| 17:34.01 | Zeal | thottbot does it wrong, that's evident from the wording. |
| 17:34.25 | Adys | thottbot, as bad as they are, havent putted sp=21360 randomly there and be correct zeal |
| 17:34.39 | Zeal | find out if that wording is under that spell, but a different field, or if it is under a different spell id. |
| 17:34.45 | Zeal | they do plenty wrong adys |
| 17:34.57 | Adys | honestly I dont care right now tbh |
| 17:35.01 | Zeal | the joys of having to create the tooltip template in the first place i learnt that. |
| 17:35.40 | Zeal | fine i'll do it -_- |
| 17:37.46 | Zeal | adys, how do you currently handle Equip and Use? |
| 17:37.56 | Adys | its {{{2}}} |
| 17:38.03 | Adys | Equip: Set: Use: |
| 17:38.17 | Zeal | people have to provide the :? |
| 17:38.23 | Adys | nope |
| 17:38.36 | Adys | {{effect|12345|Set}} |
| 17:38.42 | Adys | {{effect|12345|Equip}} |
| 17:38.45 | Adys | {{effect|12345|Use}} |
| 17:39.03 | Zeal | is the : static then, or are you checking for {{{2}}} before aplying it? |
| 17:39.23 | Adys | static |
| 17:40.04 | Adys | wowwiki has a problem... |
| 17:40.11 | Zeal | ok.. i'll code it up to handle socket bonus and all the rest in a sec.. |
| 17:42.39 | Adys | colspan=2 style="color: #0f0;" | {{{2}}}: [[Template:Spell:{{{1}}}|<span style="color:#0f0;">{{Spell:{{{1}}}}}]]</span> |
| 17:42.47 | Adys | thats the exact code, nothing special |
| 17:53.12 | Zeal | someone report the village pump vandal.. |
| 17:53.14 | Zeal | too busy |
| 17:53.43 | Adys | ill do that, sec |
| 17:55.45 | Adys | slowwiki>< |
| 17:57.18 | Zeal | colspan=2 | {{qif|test={{{2}}}|testSet=<span style="color: #0F0">Set:|testUse=<span style="color: #0F0">Use:|testEquip=<span style="color: #0F0">Equip:|testSocket=<span style="color: #999">Socket Bonus: }} [[Template:Spell:{{{1|}}}|<span style="{{qif|test={{{2}}}|testSet=#0F0|testUse=#0F0|testEquip=#0F0|testSocket=#999}};">{{Spell:{{{1|}}}}}</span>]]</span> |
| 17:57.24 | Zeal | there's your new code |
| 17:58.01 | Zeal | as far as i can see from my limited dbc tools, thottbot have done it wrong |
| 17:59.00 | Zeal | this means i need to edit tooltip and update effect2 to match.. |
| 18:01.27 | Zeal | *this (not thottbot stuff) |
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| 18:11.48 | Zeal | adys, from the looks of things, i suspect socket bonus spells aree from SpellItemEnchantment.dbc, not from Spell.dbc. |
| 18:11.59 | Adys | they match |
| 18:12.18 | Zeal | i can see no possible lookup field or string field to contain the wording for the spell thottbot have used, so it is not possible to be that spell. |
| 18:13.19 | Zeal | SpellItemEnchantment.dbc>2865 is the best match i can find. |
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| 18:24.24 | Zeal | hey Tekkub |
| 18:24.58 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:26.37 | Adys | slowdown incoming |
| 18:28.42 | equiraptor | Wow. This pastrami sandwich is flavorfull. |
| 18:29.32 | equiraptor | Spicy mustard, pastrami, provolone, red onions |
| 18:30.36 | Zeal | heh |
| 18:33.43 | equiraptor | I do not like onions. And the ones in the sandwich are strong. |
| 18:34.01 | Zeal | i like red onions |
| 18:34.14 | Zeal | but i'm not someone who lieks their veg crisp/hard |
| 18:34.22 | Zeal | i like them soft and tastey. |
| 18:34.29 | equiraptor | Ah. These are soft, but still have a crunch. |
| 18:34.37 | Zeal | crunch = bad for me :P |
| 18:35.06 | equiraptor | Ah. |
| 18:35.29 | equiraptor | There are different levels. The hard + crunch, soft + crunch, soft - crunch... :) |
| 18:35.36 | Zeal | yeah |
| 18:35.37 | Zeal | lol |
| 18:35.44 | equiraptor | Now for the half of the sandwich without onions. |
| 18:36.03 | Trae | {{breadcrumb2|MAGES FTW |
| 18:36.04 | Trae | lol |
| 18:36.32 | Zeal | hm? |
| 18:37.05 | equiraptor | The guy making the sandwich forgot the onions at first. He asked if I wanted them. I said that I don't like onions, but I should get them, so I know what it's *supposed* to taste like. |
| 18:37.05 | Zeal | also, i find when onions, and several other veg, i cooked in with meat, the flavour of the veg is completely lost, so i don't like it : / |
| 18:37.11 | Zeal | *are cooked |
| 18:37.11 | equiraptor | He offered to make half with, half without. |
| 18:37.28 | Zeal | rofl |
| 18:37.28 | equiraptor | Not completely lost. I can still taste them much of the time. |
| 18:37.41 | Zeal | i find mushrooms do it too |
| 18:37.44 | Zeal | and i love them. |
| 18:37.50 | Zeal | just not in my meat : / |
| 18:37.51 | equiraptor | But, the taste is generally mild enough with onions that I don't mind them, that way. |
| 18:38.14 | equiraptor | Mushrooms, I hate much more than onions. Even when cooked with meat, I still taste some mushroom. And I HATE IT. |
| 18:38.21 | Zeal | hehe |
| 18:38.30 | Zeal | i hate coconut in all forms :P |
| 18:38.31 | equiraptor | You'll see a pile of mushrooms on the side of my plate. :) |
| 18:38.43 | equiraptor | I don't like coconut, but I tolerate it in some forms. |
| 18:38.46 | equiraptor | I'm so picky. :) |
| 18:38.50 | Zeal | i genrally prefer a mushroom sauce to mushrooms themselves. |
| 18:39.14 | equiraptor | I try to stay away from mushroom sauces, too, but if it's the right kind of mushroom sauce, it's tollerable. |
| 18:39.25 | Zeal | if i could, i'd take all my food in sauce form, lol. |
| 18:39.48 | Zeal | well actually some exceptions.. |
| 18:39.53 | Zeal | fish i wouldn't |
| 18:40.01 | equiraptor | No fish sauce for you? |
| 18:40.09 | equiraptor | I hear it's quite tasty. |
| 18:40.16 | Zeal | well fish sauce isn't actually fish, just sauce for fish :P |
| 18:40.25 | equiraptor | No, it's sauce made from fish. |
| 18:40.33 | Zeal | oh? :s |
| 18:40.37 | Zeal | not the stuff i've had. |
| 18:40.47 | equiraptor | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fish_sauce |
| 18:40.55 | equiraptor | A condiment derived from fish that have been allowed to ferment. |
| 18:42.00 | Zeal | hm.. stuff i've had is more like how salad dressing is not made from salad.. but w/e |
| 18:42.07 | Zeal | i've never had fish sauce then |
| 18:42.37 | Zeal | though really, it's no different that cooking fish so i see no point in that kind of fish sauce. |
| 18:42.48 | equiraptor | Oh, it's very different. |
| 18:43.06 | Zeal | cooking it would produce similar results, especially cooking it in a cheese/milk based sauce itself. |
| 18:43.25 | equiraptor | Fish sauce is frequently used in dishes with no fish. |
| 18:43.28 | Zeal | which i what i do with haddock. |
| 18:43.31 | equiraptor | So, yeah, the results are different. :) |
| 18:43.49 | Zeal | i wouldn't want to have fish sauce on anything else, so meh :P |
| 18:43.57 | equiraptor | It's not so much on. |
| 18:44.05 | Zeal | well with |
| 18:44.12 | equiraptor | "The original Worcestershire sauce was a similar product" |
| 18:44.18 | Zeal | if it's on the plate, it;s expected to be eaten with :p |
| 18:44.52 | Zeal | teriyaki > fish sauce. hehe. |
| 18:45.02 | Zeal | cheese > * |
| 18:45.08 | equiraptor | Sure, but teriyaki is a relatively complex sauce. |
| 18:45.21 | equiraptor | Fish sauce is more along the lines of soy sauce. |
| 18:45.42 | Zeal | as is teriyaki. |
| 18:46.00 | equiraptor | Teriyaki is actually based on soy sauce, but with added ingredients. |
| 18:46.22 | equiraptor | fish sauce is intended as a base, like soy sauce, while teriyaki would be a more complex derivative. |
| 18:46.30 | Zeal | i see what you mean, kk |
| 18:54.45 | Tepetkhet | I use fish sauce when I make Thai yellow curry. |
| 18:54.46 | Tepetkhet | It's clear and oily. |
| 18:54.46 | Zeal | yeah. i've never had that.. lol |
| 18:54.46 | Tepetkhet | A little dab will do you. |
| 18:54.46 | Zeal | i'm rather picky about curry. |
| 18:54.52 | Tepetkhet | Thai yellow curry is mild. |
| 18:54.56 | Zeal | thai, most of the time they get it right, inidian, always horrible. |
| 18:55.00 | equiraptor | It should be "clear, reddish brown color, like the color of good whisky or sherry, without any sediments." |
| 18:55.08 | Zeal | i don't cae about the spice, i care about the flavour. |
| 18:55.39 | Zeal | when the spiceyness > flavour and the sauce flavour > meat flavour, it fails. |
| 18:55.59 | equiraptor | There's some indian around here that I suspcet is pretty good. |
| 18:56.15 | equiraptor | Some of the dishes are spicy, some aren't, but all have an abundance of flavor.... |
| 18:56.16 | Zeal | plus my dislike of coconut makes it hard.. |
| 18:56.18 | Tepetkhet | Yeah, some curry is more like HEAT BURN YOUR MOUTH STUPID AMERICANS rather than flavour... |
| 18:56.27 | equiraptor | But not flavor like my western palete is used to. |
| 18:56.29 | Zeal | i actualy find, minus the coconut, they taste nicer anyways. |
| 18:56.41 | Tepetkhet | I dislike coconut, too...but I like coconut milk in Thai curry. |
| 18:56.42 | equiraptor | It's spicy in a not-hot kind of way. |
| 18:56.57 | equiraptor | Just overwhelming with spices in a delicious way. |
| 18:57.19 | Zeal | i like how thai often mixes the sweetness, sometimes bitterness too of fruits with the spices. it tastes great. |
| 18:57.47 | Zeal | the who array of sweet, spicey, bitter and sour is nice :) |
| 18:58.00 | Tepetkhet | heh...to an extent. |
| 18:58.20 | Zeal | indian to me, it's just spicey mush with lumps of meat lacking flavour : / |
| 18:58.21 | Tepetkhet | I don't like it when Indian food puts raisins into something spicy. |
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| 18:59.04 | Tepetkhet | Oh, I usually get stuff like potato and chickpea curry or a nice potato and cauliflower dish. |
| 18:59.06 | Patrigan-Syldra | wowwiki has a problem >.> |
| 18:59.33 | Zeal | it has problems more often than not now.. |
| 18:59.41 | Tepetkhet | Over a delicious rice pilaf. |
| 18:59.56 | Zeal | so you'd be better off saying "WoWWiki is working fine, quickly, edit while you can!" |
| 18:59.58 | Patrigan-Syldra | say, aren't you guys doin the worldwide blackout? |
| 19:00.08 | Tepetkhet | Blackout? |
| 19:00.10 | Zeal | huh? |
| 19:01.01 | Patrigan-Syldra | electricoty out |
| 19:01.07 | Patrigan-Syldra | from 19.55-20.00 |
| 19:01.10 | Patrigan-Syldra | everywhere |
| 19:01.15 | Patrigan-Syldra | to give the eartyh some "rest" |
| 19:01.15 | Tepetkhet | Oh? |
| 19:01.23 | Tepetkhet | Link? |
| 19:01.29 | Patrigan-Syldra | I couldn't bother, but it seems many people can't |
| 19:01.41 | Patrigan-Syldra | don't have the link as I couldn't be bothered :p |
| 19:01.50 | Patrigan-Syldra | friends of mine send me the link and I trashcanned it ^^ |
| 19:02.04 | Patrigan-Syldra | Adys! |
| 19:02.08 | Patrigan-Syldra | I'm a bit pissed |
| 19:02.10 | Adys | dingdingding |
| 19:02.13 | Adys | whats up? |
| 19:02.13 | Patrigan-Syldra | bad implementation of the ruling |
| 19:02.20 | Patrigan-Syldra | http://www.wowwiki.com/Tomato |
| 19:02.22 | Patrigan-Syldra | unheard of |
| 19:02.24 | Patrigan-Syldra | talk page |
| 19:02.28 | Patrigan-Syldra | Kiroshi's reply to it |
| 19:02.38 | Patrigan-Syldra | they are in fact allowed to have french Guildpage |
| 19:02.52 | Adys | if it has the minimum in english |
| 19:02.55 | Patrigan-Syldra | they just lacked an english short introduction of about 3 lines |
| 19:02.58 | Adys | atm the page contains one line |
| 19:03.03 | Adys | "soon to be translated in english" |
| 19:03.03 | Patrigan-Syldra | yes, however, that's not what they are told |
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| 19:04.00 | Patrigan-Syldra | they're told that they aren't allowed to write it in english |
| 19:04.06 | Patrigan-Syldra | and Kiroshi wasn't very friendly either |
| 19:04.12 | Patrigan-Syldra | that's not the way to make Wiki fans |
| 19:04.31 | Patrigan-Syldra | second time ina few days that Kiroshi behaves like a prick btw... |
| 19:04.56 | equiraptor | Maybe he's having a bad few days. |
| 19:05.19 | Patrigan-Syldra | translated: I'm not in a good mood, replace the page to the french wowwiki |
| 19:05.33 | Patrigan-Syldra | and some shit behind it, but I'm too lazy to translate it all |
| 19:05.36 | Patrigan-Syldra | ... |
| 19:05.44 | Adys | literally |
| 19:06.04 | Patrigan-Syldra | he can have bad days |
| 19:06.09 | Patrigan-Syldra | as long as it doesn't affect the wiki |
| 19:06.11 | Adys | "ok guys Im not in the mood, either you translate this page now or you move it on the french wiki (wikiwow), or it gets deleted directly" |
| 19:06.26 | Patrigan-Syldra | (you be french? >.>) |
| 19:06.31 | Adys | yus |
| 19:06.35 | Patrigan-Syldra | k :p |
| 19:06.38 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Adys |
| 19:06.43 | Patrigan-Syldra | Belgian here, but too lazy to translate decently ^^ |
| 19:06.58 | Adys | Hello! |
| 19:06.58 | Adys | I'm Adys, French Mage playing on Stormrage Europe. I've been playing there since the release of the game and also attended early beta tests. [...] |
| 19:07.10 | Patrigan-Syldra | cool to see french people updating our wiki :p |
| 19:07.15 | nemppu | >:D |
| 19:07.22 | Patrigan-Syldra | anyways, I'm not to speak of Kiroshi's reply |
| 19:07.26 | nemppu | Hello Adys I would like to be your friend |
| 19:07.36 | Patrigan-Syldra | It's not polite in any way |
| 19:07.36 | Adys | hello nemppu |
| 19:07.47 | Patrigan-Syldra | it's more like "I don't like french, get the hell out of here" |
| 19:08.01 | Patrigan-Syldra | and then the addition of the Speedy Delete... |
| 19:08.10 | Adys | they can recreate it |
| 19:08.15 | Adys | they can make it a {{delete}} |
| 19:08.17 | Adys | I dont mind |
| 19:08.20 | Adys | atm its an empty article |
| 19:08.26 | Patrigan-Syldra | they shouldn't, all they should is add a few english lines |
| 19:08.27 | Adys | that was blanked by the author and originally not in english |
| 19:08.46 | Patrigan-Syldra | yes, because the other is currently in the impression that french isn't allowed whatsoever... |
| 19:09.02 | Patrigan-Syldra | I was under the impression that you supported Kiroshi his reply |
| 19:09.23 | Patrigan-Syldra | while Kiroshi his reply shouldn't be supported even reomtely close... |
| 19:09.43 | Adys | I dont care about kirochi's reply tbh |
| 19:09.56 | Adys | hes immature mostly but it seems he does good job on lore |
| 19:10.06 | Adys | for me, its an empty article and thats it |
| 19:10.26 | Zeal | who made it an empty article? |
| 19:10.31 | Adys | the author |
| 19:10.38 | Zeal | after kirochi's reply? |
| 19:10.53 | Adys | I have no idea, does it matter? |
| 19:11.12 | Zeal | yes? if it was after, it's because kirochi told them inaccurate rules. |
| 19:11.28 | Adys | he was very rude but partly right |
| 19:11.41 | Patrigan-Syldra | it is indeed after |
| 19:11.41 | Adys | if it doesnt get translated its candidate for speedy |
| 19:11.42 | Patrigan-Syldra | 11:11 kiroshi told them |
| 19:11.48 | Patrigan-Syldra | 17.01 page was blanked |
| 19:11.54 | Zeal | who says it needs to be fully translated? |
| 19:12.02 | Patrigan-Syldra | Kiroshi >.> |
| 19:12.04 | Adys | the minimum in english |
| 19:12.22 | Zeal | the minimum, not the whole lot, which is what kirochi implied. |
| 19:12.45 | Zeal | so he's given them wrong info, so they've removed their info because of it, and now he wants to delete it. |
| 19:12.46 | Patrigan-Syldra | while http://WoWWiki:Policy/Writing/Guild_pages#Contents clearly states that it should just have the basics in english |
| 19:13.28 | Zeal | imo, an admin should be stepping in to calrify what they need to do, and remove the deletion attempt. |
| 19:14.02 | Adys | right Ill just explain the rules |
| 19:14.15 | Adys | Im not removing the speedy, imo their article should be on the french wiki |
| 19:14.22 | Adys | they can remove it if they want |
| 19:14.27 | Patrigan-Syldra | Adys |
| 19:14.33 | Patrigan-Syldra | if it should be on the french wiki |
| 19:14.43 | Patrigan-Syldra | why do we have rules allowing french guildpages? |
| 19:14.46 | Adys | no, thats only my opinion pat |
| 19:14.56 | Zeal | thats your opinion adys, so it should be {{delete}} not {{speedydelete}} i agree with you, but it's an issue with the policy, not the page. |
| 19:14.58 | Patrigan-Syldra | Tbh, I agree with you |
| 19:15.01 | Patrigan-Syldra | don't get me wrong... |
| 19:15.05 | Adys | it should be on the french wiki but can be on the english one |
| 19:15.20 | Patrigan-Syldra | In essence I couldn't care less, but we are an english wiki after all |
| 19:15.22 | Patrigan-Syldra | but... |
| 19:15.27 | Patrigan-Syldra | hey, there's rules |
| 19:15.27 | Adys | dont worry, an admin wouldnt delete the page itself without checking the talk page$ |
| 19:15.29 | Patrigan-Syldra | not many but some |
| 19:15.29 | Adys | page* |
| 19:15.33 | Adys | besides |
| 19:15.33 | Patrigan-Syldra | and they should be followed |
| 19:15.40 | Adys | we have rules for non english content |
| 19:15.45 | Adys | not specifically for french content |
| 19:15.51 | Patrigan-Syldra | well |
| 19:15.55 | Adys | spanish guilds for example dont have a wiki for themselves |
| 19:16.08 | Adys | thats the whole point |
| 19:16.10 | Patrigan-Syldra | in that sense, you have a point |
| 19:16.17 | Patrigan-Syldra | though, like I said |
| 19:16.20 | Patrigan-Syldra | I couldn't care less... |
| 19:16.24 | Patrigan-Syldra | what bothers me |
| 19:16.29 | Patrigan-Syldra | for the second time in a few days |
| 19:16.29 | Zeal | personally, i don't think any non-english content should exist except in the cases of in-game languages and quotes, where both must provide full translations. |
| 19:16.31 | Patrigan-Syldra | is Kiroshi |
| 19:17.12 | Patrigan-Syldra | you'll reply on the page? because I'm too lazy to try bringing up my best french ^^ |
| 19:17.21 | Adys | yes |
| 19:17.29 | Adys | when the wiki will work |
| 19:17.33 | Patrigan-Syldra | I hate french, without offense >.> |
| 19:17.45 | Zeal | lol adys, that's my fault. |
| 19:17.49 | Patrigan-Syldra | but I've been getting it in class since I was 10 years old |
| 19:17.54 | Adys | no worries zeal |
| 19:17.57 | Adys | its mostly the wiki's fault |
| 19:18.01 | Zeal | true true |
| 19:18.09 | Patrigan-Syldra | WoWwiki says it himself |
| 19:18.12 | Patrigan-Syldra | he has a problem! |
| 19:18.25 | *** join/#wowwiki Smokey (n=tomy@21Cust18.tnt1.montreal.qb.da.uu.net) |
| 19:18.29 | Patrigan-Syldra | anyways |
| 19:18.32 | Patrigan-Syldra | I'm leaving again |
| 19:18.33 | WoWWiki | Hello, I have a problem. |
| 19:18.42 | Adys | .. sorry |
| 19:18.45 | Patrigan-Syldra | XD |
| 19:18.46 | Zeal | and i would also request, you don't start talking french on the talk page. it alienates the users from being able to contribute and voice opinions. |
| 19:18.49 | Patrigan-Syldra | infobot, thewiki? |
| 19:18.50 | infobot | it has been said that thewiki is at http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk |
| 19:18.58 | Patrigan-Syldra | grmmmbl, no infobot |
| 19:19.04 | Zeal | ttyl pat |
| 19:19.06 | Adys | infobot, wowwiki ? |
| 19:19.08 | infobot | [wowwiki] http://www.wowwiki.com |
| 19:19.14 | Patrigan-Syldra | nah, i t was something like |
| 19:19.17 | Patrigan-Syldra | infobot, wiki? |
| 19:19.30 | Patrigan-Syldra | or you can just ignore me aswell -_- |
| 19:19.41 | Smokey | hi all |
| 19:19.42 | Zeal | infobot, your sexuality? |
| 19:19.51 | Patrigan-Syldra | quit harassing infobot |
| 19:19.53 | Patrigan-Syldra | hi smokey |
| 19:19.55 | Zeal | lo Smokey :p |
| 19:19.57 | Adys | infobot, zeal? |
| 19:19.58 | infobot | [zeal] now level 10! |
| 19:19.58 | Patrigan-Syldra | and bye, I'm gonna log |
| 19:20.00 | Patrigan-Syldra | final exam tomorrow |
| 19:20.01 | Patrigan-Syldra | yay |
| 19:20.02 | Smokey | what's wowwiki about ? info on the game ? |
| 19:20.02 | Zeal | rofl |
| 19:20.07 | Zeal | i'm lvl 19 now ;) |
| 19:20.08 | Patrigan-Syldra | yes |
| 19:20.22 | Adys | infobot, zeal is now level 19! |
| 19:20.24 | infobot | ...but zeal is already something else... |
| 19:20.30 | Adys | infobot, zeal is also level 19 now! |
| 19:20.32 | infobot | Adys: okay |
| 19:20.38 | Zeal | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:About ;) |
| 19:20.39 | Smokey | a wiki for a game only ? gee must be complicate to play Wow |
| 19:20.43 | Patrigan-Syldra | infobot, no, Zeal is now level 19! |
| 19:20.44 | infobot | okay, Patrigan-Syldra |
| 19:20.52 | Patrigan-Syldra | infobot, Zeal? |
| 19:20.53 | infobot | [zeal] now level 19! |
| 19:21.03 | Adys | infobot, patrigan? |
| 19:21.04 | infobot | i heard patrigan is nothing to me. |
| 19:21.13 | Patrigan-Syldra | infobot, cookie |
| 19:21.13 | Zeal | lol |
| 19:21.22 | Patrigan-Syldra | >.> |
| 19:21.48 | Patrigan-Syldra | you don't actually excpect me to send the cookie? |
| 19:21.52 | Patrigan-Syldra | infobot, you're silly |
| 19:22.03 | Patrigan-Syldra | anyways |
| 19:22.05 | Patrigan-Syldra | log! |
| 19:22.07 | Patrigan-Syldra | cyaz |
| 19:22.15 | Zeal | it's an MMO pat, thats a whole virtual world, with things to keep people busy the entire time they're in it. ofc it' complicated :P |
| 19:22.19 | Zeal | *it's |
| 19:22.25 | Zeal | but to play however, it isn't |
| 19:22.47 | Zeal | which is why WoW is a good MMO |
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| 19:27.05 | Tepetkhet | ... |
| 19:27.16 | Tepetkhet | Troll fails. |
| 19:27.29 | Tepetkhet | Fails at being a good troll, too. |
| 19:28.17 | Zeal | hm? |
| 19:29.01 | Tepetkhet | [14:20] <Smokey> a wiki for a game only ? gee must be complicate to play Wow |
| 19:29.13 | Tepetkhet | Seemed a bit trollish. |
| 19:32.05 | Zeal | sorry, i'm often blinded to the line between stupidity, ignorrance, and trolling. |
| 19:32.07 | Zeal | :p |
| 19:32.46 | Zeal | generally just give thme what they want until they give me cause to do otherwise. |
| 19:39.40 | Zeal | wooot, new within tempation vid |
| 19:40.51 | Zeal | looks unlikely i will be able to see them :( |
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| 20:01.49 | Pogogunnr | Scholo is a 55+ instance, right? |
| 20:02.44 | Zeal | indeed |
| 20:02.52 | Zeal | not sure if its 55+ |
| 20:03.03 | Zeal | i know i'd probably go in around 57-58 |
| 20:03.23 | Pogogunnr | Okay, thanks |
| 20:03.37 | Pogogunnr | Is .0 worth it? |
| 20:04.18 | Tepetkhet | Tier0? |
| 20:04.19 | Tepetkhet | No |
| 20:04.28 | Zeal | no |
| 20:04.29 | Tepetkhet | Wait |
| 20:04.32 | Zeal | not even teir 2 |
| 20:04.36 | Tepetkhet | Do you have The Burning Crusade? |
| 20:04.48 | Zeal | good question XD |
| 20:05.14 | Pogogunnr | Yeah |
| 20:05.32 | Pogogunnr | Everyone tells me to go at 58, but my .0 and .5 look good... |
| 20:05.47 | Pogogunnr | And im afraid that the mobs in outlands will just kill me without a problem |
| 20:05.53 | Pogogunnr | (52 warrior right now) |
| 20:06.07 | Tepetkhet | ah |
| 20:06.14 | Pogogunnr | First character |
| 20:06.19 | Zeal | you'll be overleveled for those sets by the time you get them |
| 20:06.19 | Tepetkhet | For now, I think you have 2 choices. |
| 20:06.32 | Zeal | so you may aswell continue in azeroth until 58, then go to outland. |
| 20:06.32 | Tepetkhet | You can try for PvP gear |
| 20:06.39 | Tepetkhet | Or you can just grind your way up to level 58. |
| 20:06.41 | Tepetkhet | ASAP. |
| 20:06.58 | Tepetkhet | What type of warrior are you? |
| 20:07.05 | Pogogunnr | Arms/fury |
| 20:07.13 | Tepetkhet | DPS or do you like to tank? |
| 20:07.18 | Pogogunnr | Rest of points probably going into arms |
| 20:07.20 | Tepetkhet | Arms/fury for levelling, yeah... |
| 20:07.31 | Pogogunnr | Im better at DPSing, but everyone uses me as a tank :\ |
| 20:07.33 | Zeal | i'd still do the instances that drop the set peices for experience, money, improvining your skills etc. |
| 20:07.36 | Tepetkhet | well |
| 20:07.39 | Tepetkhet | Tanking well is hard. |
| 20:07.40 | Zeal | no need to grind |
| 20:07.43 | Tepetkhet | But it's a good thing to know. |
| 20:07.55 | Zeal | and if you get the parts you want, then nice, if you don't, thne just carry on to outland. |
| 20:08.06 | Tepetkhet | Get a good shield and a one-hander...know how/when to taunt... |
| 20:08.09 | Tepetkhet | Sunder sunder sunder |
| 20:08.13 | Pogogunnr | Well, my .0 bought should be good, right? |
| 20:08.19 | Pogogunnr | As least till outlands? |
| 20:08.24 | Tepetkhet | You know |
| 20:08.30 | Zeal | you'll replace it with greens before lvl 62 tbh, heh. |
| 20:08.32 | Tepetkhet | People still want to do Strat for the righteous orbs |
| 20:08.38 | Pogogunnr | And Im good enough at tanking, Tep |
| 20:08.38 | Zeal | yes, it's fine before outlands |
| 20:08.42 | equiraptor | I went into outlands in greens. Crappy greens. |
| 20:08.45 | equiraptor | I did fine. |
| 20:08.46 | Tepetkhet | heh |
| 20:08.51 | Pogogunnr | Thanks |
| 20:09.07 | Pogogunnr | Will a lot of extra money help any? |
| 20:09.14 | equiraptor | No. |
| 20:09.21 | equiraptor | You'll get a lot of money in Outlands. |
| 20:09.22 | Pogogunnr | Crap, cause I got like 325g |
| 20:09.33 | equiraptor | Well, no harm in having it. |
| 20:09.40 | Pogogunnr | Right... |
| 20:09.41 | equiraptor | But no reason to grind for more money before going out there. |
| 20:09.48 | Pogogunnr | Okay |
| 20:09.52 | Pogogunnr | Just all out level? |
| 20:10.05 | equiraptor | If that's what's fun for you, yeah. |
| 20:10.12 | Zeal | theres doing fine but having to work harder, and theres having an easier time after having worked harder. that's the difference between it really, either way, at some point, you have to work hard. |
| 20:10.13 | Pogogunnr | I like grinding |
| 20:10.17 | sancus | you grind gold much much faster at 70 than 60 |
| 20:10.18 | Pogogunnr | Just pure grinding :\ |
| 20:10.23 | sancus | like at least 3-4x faster |
| 20:10.35 | sancus | more like 8x faster if you're doing remaining quests |
| 20:10.47 | Pogogunnr | I have to do more quests for rep |
| 20:10.54 | Pogogunnr | Wanna get a cross faction Mount |
| 20:10.58 | equiraptor | My friend hasn't paid me back that 900g yet. |
| 20:11.03 | Pogogunnr | Wait... |
| 20:11.13 | sancus | I wouldnt bother with ground mount nonsense |
| 20:11.15 | sancus | no one cares anymore |
| 20:11.17 | Pogogunnr | Should I get epic mount? |
| 20:11.18 | sancus | but w/e floats your boat! |
| 20:11.38 | sancus | It would be a good idea, yes, theres a lot of travel in outland |
| 20:11.50 | equiraptor | You'll need the skill to get the skill for flying mount. |
| 20:11.52 | sancus | but if you dont have the money for it, then you dont, go level anyway |
| 20:12.04 | equiraptor | ^^ Yeah, that. |
| 20:12.09 | Pogogunnr | Right |
| 20:12.12 | equiraptor | If you have the money, sure, go ahead. If you don't, don't worry about it. |
| 20:12.13 | Zeal | get the epic mount imo, speeds things up, even if you will replace it, that's 10 levels you're behind held back and spending more time travelling. |
| 20:12.15 | Pogogunnr | Where should I train? |
| 20:12.26 | Zeal | *being |
| 20:12.29 | Pogogunnr | Ive been using netherguarde and Felwood |
| 20:12.59 | Pogogunnr | Blasted lands and Felwood* |
| 20:13.04 | equiraptor | Anywhere you find closely placed mobs that you kill quickly without taking much damage, with good respawn rates. :) |
| 20:13.15 | Pogogunnr | ... |
| 20:13.20 | Pogogunnr | Know any places like that? |
| 20:13.45 | equiraptor | I really enjoyed grinding on the felcloth dropping demons in Felwood. On my server, there were few enough people killing them. |
| 20:13.47 | weazer | Felwood is good :) |
| 20:13.50 | equiraptor | On some servers, though, they're too heavily farmed for that. |
| 20:14.06 | Pogogunnr | Right :\ |
| 20:14.17 | weazer | Only stupid trolls grinding on my realm |
| 20:14.23 | weazer | huntards :] |
| 20:14.27 | Pogogunnr | Long runs for repairs and sell stuff, and tons of horde, but Ill give it another shot, I guess |
| 20:14.41 | Zeal | farm dragon spawn? heh |
| 20:14.48 | Pogogunnr | Thanks for the help, guys, I really appricate it! |
| 20:15.06 | Pogogunnr | Before I leave; anyone on smolderthorn server? |
| 20:15.07 | Tepetkhet | No problem. |
| 20:15.18 | Tepetkhet | Really, though...you should do what you want. |
| 20:15.33 | Pogogunnr | Tep, I just need advice, really :) |
| 20:15.35 | Tepetkhet | If it means something to you to get "full tier0 set", then by all means, go for it. |
| 20:15.53 | Pogogunnr | Heh. Maybe pay off a few level 70 runners |
| 20:15.55 | Tepetkhet | But as far as actually going for it to gear up, I don't think it's worth it for that. |
| 20:15.57 | Pogogunnr | My server is poor as hell |
| 20:16.28 | Pogogunnr | Well, I really wanna get the .5 to be honest, just cause it looks awesome :\ |
| 20:16.33 | Pogogunnr | I care more about how my character looks than me... |
| 20:16.43 | Tepetkhet | hahaha |
| 20:16.48 | Tepetkhet | well |
| 20:16.52 | Tepetkhet | You should see our tank. |
| 20:17.31 | Tepetkhet | Er, wait. |
| 20:17.33 | Pogogunnr | I am a tank :\ |
| 20:17.37 | Tepetkhet | It's actually his DPS gear. |
| 20:17.41 | Tepetkhet | It looks hilarious. |
| 20:17.43 | Pogogunnr | A DPS tank :( |
| 20:17.47 | Tepetkhet | Like Spiderman. |
| 20:18.00 | Tepetkhet | Well, warriors usually end up with several sets of gear. |
| 20:18.06 | Pogogunnr | I gotta get rolling on grinding... |
| 20:18.09 | Pogogunnr | See ya, guys |
| 20:18.10 | *** part/#wowwiki Pogogunnr (n=ilovecra@c-68-49-72-210.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 20:18.32 | Tepetkhet | This one has a set of DPS gear, tanking gear, and FR gear. |
| 20:22.31 | Tepetkhet | Dib'Muad's Crysknife |
| 20:22.34 | Tepetkhet | Nice name. |
| 20:27.19 | Zeal | for my pala, i intend to go back and get judgement after 70 just because it looks pwns |
| 20:27.30 | Zeal | for my hunter, crypt stalker |
| 20:27.40 | Zeal | i care not about the rest. |
| 20:41.45 | Zeal | fucking slow wiki : / |
| 20:43.30 | Zeal | wtf.. @ effect |
| 20:44.23 | Zeal | ah i see, guess that was my bad.. |
| 20:48.24 | Zeal | wtf... |
| 20:48.26 | Zeal | argh |
| 20:50.11 | Zeal | stupid wiki cache.. |
| 20:54.20 | Zeal | Adys, someone needs to figure out what is going on with item enchants, which socket bonus is. their id's overlap spells, and even if they are linked and i've missed it, they are not limited to one spell each. This is why, no matter what way you look at it, the currect item db sites are all doing it wrong. |
| 20:54.56 | Adys | shall see |
| 20:55.11 | Adys | doing an instance atm cant really look into it, but ill check during the night |
| 20:55.12 | Zeal | The wordins are different, they can apply to multiple spells, and linking to a spell from an item's enchant is misleading, and simply the wrong link. |
| 20:55.15 | Zeal | no |
| 20:55.18 | Zeal | *np |
| 20:55.30 | Zeal | just giving a heads up it needs to be resolved : / |
| 20:55.42 | Zeal | i've moved effect2 to spelllink now. |
| 20:59.54 | Zeal | oh ffs, sick of seeing pages where it says a template is used, but it's not.. theres gotta be a bug in the software or something.. |
| 21:01.09 | Zeal | and it doesn't help the wiki is hardly loading atm : / |
| 21:05.14 | *** join/#wowwiki Karrion (n=kieron@corp-gw01.imrworldwide.com) |
| 21:14.03 | Zeal | http://www.wowwiki.com/Cooking_recipes not loading for anyone else? :s |
| 21:15.11 | Tepetkhet | Loading... ... ... |
| 21:17.10 | Zeal | i jsut get blank done : / |
| 21:17.32 | Zeal | and i've got a feeling everytime i try, it slows down the wiki (for me at least) |
| 21:17.51 | Karrion | not loading here either |
| 21:18.04 | Zeal | :( |
| 21:18.51 | equiraptor | I'm not getting anything on the wiki right now. |
| 21:19.28 | Zeal | then my suspecions are likely true.. |
| 21:19.45 | Zeal | as when i stop loading it, and wait a bit. the wiki is back to normal (slow) speed. |
| 21:21.09 | Zeal | as it is now :s |
| 21:21.26 | Zeal | take that back, slow again.. |
| 21:21.30 | Tepetkhet | cool |
| 21:21.44 | Tepetkhet | I have some people interested in my PuG run this Sat. |
| 21:21.49 | Tepetkhet | Dunno what yet. |
| 21:21.59 | Tepetkhet | But darn it, I wanna hit up one of the old raid instances. |
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| 21:22.39 | Kirkburn | EVenin' |
| 21:23.00 | Tepetkhet | I never finished MC or AQ20 (killed Golemagg and no farther, didn't finish killing Ossirian). |
| 21:26.21 | Tepetkhet | Besides, I need one more boss in MC to get those bank slots freed up and get my FR ring. |
| 21:28.02 | Zeal | pfft, you go afk straight away Kirkburn|afk? :P |
| 21:28.06 | Zeal | hey btw ;) |
| 21:32.53 | Zeal | wheh music makes you tingly all over you know it pwns.. |
| 21:32.56 | Zeal | *when |
| 21:34.39 | Kirkburn|afk | I'm having a non-Warcraft day |
| 21:34.48 | Kirkburn|afk | You're lucky I even signed on :P |
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| 21:35.10 | Zeal | lol |
| 21:35.12 | Zeal | np |
| 21:35.25 | Kirkburn|afk | Only got 1 lecture 2moro, 9-11, then nothing until tuesday .... lots of time for WoW then :D |
| 21:36.10 | Zeal | everyone gets sick of someting, especially when it becomes work :P |
| 21:36.10 | Zeal | lol |
| 21:36.10 | Zeal | well atm i'm not doing much on the wiki because its being slow assed bitch |
| 21:36.10 | Kirkburn|afk | Oh, and installign Vista, Office 2007, watching 3 Naked Gun films, or perhaps some Police Squad. Depending on the postman |
| 21:36.25 | Zeal | which vista? |
| 21:36.30 | Zeal | and is it legit? lol |
| 21:36.35 | Kirkburn|afk | I keep hearing that Planes, Trains and Automobiles is a must see film, so bought that too |
| 21:36.40 | Kirkburn|afk | Yes, Ultimate OEM |
| 21:36.47 | Kirkburn|afk | So, uh, almost legit |
| 21:36.48 | Zeal | how much was that? :P |
| 21:36.56 | Kirkburn|afk | £120 |
| 21:36.57 | Zeal | lol |
| 21:37.00 | Zeal | ah, not bad |
| 21:37.05 | Zeal | i might have to go that way. |
| 21:37.07 | Kirkburn|afk | Indeed |
| 21:37.52 | Kirkburn|afk | 1/3 the normal price - I thought it'd be much better to have 3 copies of Vista, then have a single transferable license. Plus I can still transfer the OEM one anyway, just a bit more involved (have to phone) |
| 21:38.58 | Kirkburn|afk | Anyways, back to Planet Earth |
| 21:39.00 | Zeal | i'll probably need two copies |
| 21:39.10 | Zeal | though i'll stick to one for now |
| 21:39.12 | Kirkburn|afk | I'm not sure about putting it on my laptop |
| 21:39.22 | Zeal | my old pc is still running that beta :P |
| 21:39.37 | Kirkburn|afk | Yeah, my desktop too - I play WoW on it :) |
| 21:40.01 | Kirkburn|afk | (hence my incredible ability to multi-task =) |
| 21:40.20 | Zeal | old AMD AthlonXP 2500+, same ram as in this, 200GB PATA HDD, 9800Pro. heh. |
| 21:40.35 | Kirkburn|afk | Boring flight? Edit the wiki or chat here instead :) |
| 21:40.49 | Kirkburn|afk | That's quite similar to my desktop |
| 21:40.51 | Zeal | flight? :s |
| 21:40.58 | Kirkburn|afk | (gryphon!) |
| 21:41.04 | Gryphen | ya |
| 21:41.14 | Kirkburn|afk | (wing rider!) |
| 21:41.19 | Kirkburn|afk | *wind |
| 21:41.23 | Gryphen | :o |
| 21:41.34 | Kirkburn|afk | Yeah, er, not you :P |
| 21:41.49 | Kirkburn|afk | You have Gryphon set to ding too? |
| 21:41.57 | Gryphen | ya, its my normal name |
| 21:42.03 | Zeal | lol, this one.. it's an FX55, 1GB Crossair XMS 3200 XL, 2x 300GB SATA HDD, X850XT PE. |
| 21:42.10 | Gryphen | gryph actually |
| 21:42.23 | Gryphen | dings |
| 21:42.29 | Kirkburn|afk | Must be annoying when someone talking about flying :P |
| 21:42.30 | Zeal | i see what ya mean, the taxis. |
| 21:43.02 | Kirkburn|afk | So, uh, I'm going to get a Snowy Gryphon |
| 21:43.02 | Kirkburn|afk | OR an Ebon Gryphen |
| 21:43.02 | Gryphen | Planes, Trains and Automobiles is great |
| 21:43.20 | Kirkburn|afk | Not sure how I haven't seen it :/ |
| 21:43.31 | tliff | Kirkburn|afk: and i'm in test crunchtime =/ |
| 21:43.31 | tliff | so no wow at all |
| 21:43.40 | Kirkburn|afk | :( |
| 21:43.45 | Kirkburn|afk | That's awful! |
| 21:43.55 | Kirkburn|afk | I've seen Groundhog Day like a million times now (bought that too) |
| 21:44.02 | Gryphen | ugh |
| 21:44.07 | Gryphen | cant stand that one lol |
| 21:44.19 | Gryphen | love Money Pit :D |
| 21:44.22 | Zeal | it took me over 4 months to get this PC stable, and over a year to get it's cooling sorted... stupid corsair, stupid shuttle.. faulty hardware and poor airflow designs ftl :( |
| 21:44.35 | tliff | well, the wiki helps through detox |
| 21:44.36 | Kirkburn|afk | My other purchases were: Naked Gun trilogy, Police Squad |
| 21:44.57 | Gryphen | just saw Benchwarmers last night, quite funny |
| 21:45.02 | Kirkburn|afk | Zeal, my desktop sounds like a thousand trumpeting elephants |
| 21:45.20 | Gryphen | :o |
| 21:45.32 | Kirkburn|afk | Don't know either of those, Money Pit or Benchwarmers. Is that bad? |
| 21:46.14 | Gryphen | benchwarmers is new |
| 21:46.23 | Gryphen | 'the money pit' is 80's |
| 21:46.33 | Kirkburn|afk | (what's worse is that my desktop came without the CPU fan plugged in. Oh, and neither was the DVD drive plugged in) |
| 21:46.34 | *** join/#wowwiki tliff (n=tliff@W0daf.w.pppool.de) |
| 21:47.08 | Tepetkhet | I want an epic bat mount. |
| 21:47.21 | Gryphen | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0437863/ |
| 21:47.21 | Gryphen | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091541/ |
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| 21:47.38 | Tepetkhet | Bat boss in ZG should drop a bat mount. |
| 21:47.39 | Tepetkhet | heh |
| 21:47.46 | Kirkburn|afk | I want a Dreadgryphen :P |
| 21:48.24 | Kirkburn|afk | Rob Schneider?! |
| 21:49.14 | Gryphen | hes actually like the normal guy in the movie heh |
| 21:52.29 | Tepetkhet | I don't want to ride Rob Schneider, no. |
| 21:53.47 | equiraptor | I wanna ride a Nugget. |
| 21:53.59 | Tepetkhet | heh |
| 21:54.02 | Gryphen | nose nugget? |
| 21:54.03 | Tepetkhet | Is he epic? ;) |
| 21:54.16 | equiraptor | Not epic, but flying. |
| 21:55.56 | equiraptor | Does this mean I should "upgrade" to a jet-piloting boyfriend, at some point? |
| 21:56.12 | equiraptor | Or should I be happy with the prop pilot? ;) |
| 21:56.55 | Tepetkhet | I don't think I would be interested in grinding the faction rep for that mount. |
| 21:57.05 | Tepetkhet | It would cause me to become hated with too many other factions. |
| 21:57.14 | equiraptor | heh |
| 21:57.43 | equiraptor | I know of a similar mount with slightly diffferent appearance that's available. |
| 21:57.51 | equiraptor | But he's fond of taking sudden nose dives. |
| 21:58.16 | Kirkburn|afk | He likes going down? |
| 21:58.34 | equiraptor | In a "free fall" kind of way. |
| 21:59.31 | amro | hrm can you dismount in midair? |
| 21:59.39 | Kirkburn|afk | Yes |
| 21:59.47 | Kirkburn|afk | Next question is: do you want to? |
| 21:59.50 | equiraptor | Yeah, but you don't wanna. Hitting the ground can be painful. |
| 21:59.51 | amro | yes |
| 22:00.01 | Kirkburn|afk | Useful for quickly getting into combat |
| 22:00.16 | equiraptor | See, I'm still on the IRL bit. :) |
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| 22:00.26 | Kirkburn|afk | haha |
| 22:00.29 | amro | or dropping in the middle of an enemy town then rezzing |
| 22:00.43 | amro | or popping a shute |
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| 22:00.49 | amro | chute* |
| 22:00.56 | amro | imagine 50 people paratrooping in |
| 22:01.11 | Kirkburn|afk | Hey, they should have put a base jump in Outland |
| 22:01.29 | Kirkburn|afk | I miss the Twin Thingies in Feralas |
| 22:01.44 | Tepetkhet | heh |
| 22:01.52 | Tepetkhet | Okay, gonna take oft. |
| 22:01.53 | Kirkburn|afk | amro, imagine 50 druid bears paratrooping in |
| 22:01.59 | Tepetkhet | s/oft/off/ |
| 22:01.59 | equiraptor | Bye bye, tep. |
| 22:02.03 | Kirkburn|afk | See ya |
| 22:02.06 | amro | later tep |
| 22:02.07 | equiraptor | Be thinking of RL flying mounts. ;) |
| 22:02.13 | Kirkburn|afk | And I'm going to actually be afk - DVD time |
| 22:02.45 | nemppu | DVDs\o/ |
| 22:07.18 | Barbanus | hmmm I keep getting random errors with wowwiki today |
| 22:07.52 | Barbanus | getting directed to the main page when I go to an article, or get a "encountered an error" |
| 22:08.56 | amro | same here, happened yesterday too |
| 22:40.14 | Zeal | <@Kirkburn|afk> (what's worse is that my desktop came without the CPU fan plugged in. Oh, and neither was the DVD drive plugged in) <-- You payed someone to build it? :s |
| 22:47.12 | Zeal | oh ffs.. why are these wild cards not matching.. |
| 22:52.59 | Kirkburn|afk | It was an Evesham |
| 22:53.30 | Kirkburn|afk | I could probably build my own now, but not back then |
| 23:04.23 | Zeal | never heard of them :S probably never will if tht's the quality of service they put out, lol |
| 23:04.47 | Zeal | i've built my last 4 pc's, learning from the net and a friend initially. |
| 23:05.14 | Zeal | since then, build pc's for family, friends etc. |
| 23:05.18 | Zeal | *built |
| 23:06.18 | Barbanus | I taught myself like when I was 12 |
| 23:06.27 | Barbanus | fucking around with my old tandy 1000 |
| 23:06.49 | Barbanus | now I look at it .. and go "OOOooo you built your own computer ... not like its hard" |
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| 23:09.54 | Zeal | lol yeah, it does get like that Barbanus |
| 23:10.04 | Barbanus | funny the things you end up taking for granted |
| 23:10.24 | Zeal | people are like "wow, magic, you own you built a pc" and you're like "it's really no big deal.." |
| 23:17.12 | Zeal | silly me, i forgot to use $+ .. |
| 23:17.23 | Zeal | fixed my notifier now :) |
| 23:17.27 | Zeal | *highlighter |
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| 23:46.45 | Zeal | lolz |
| 23:48.21 | Zeal | aW5mYm90IGhhcyBhIHByb2JsZW0gd2l0aCBXb1dXaWtp |
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| 23:48.23 | Zeal | hey, wb Tekkub :p |
| 23:48.39 | Tekkub | net's being stupid cause it snowed |
| 23:48.44 | Zeal | :( |
| 23:48.55 | Tekkub | even the damn utilities here wig out on <1" of snow, pathetic |
| 23:49.04 | Zeal | lol |
| 23:49.18 | Tekkub | last night we went to the store at 6PM... it went something like this: |
| 23:49.22 | Zeal | only thing that wigs out here really is satalite :p |
| 23:49.37 | Tekkub | "OMG IT'S SNOWING WE MUST FILL THE PANTRY!!!!" x200 |
| 23:49.57 | Tekkub | people driving 5MPH... |
| 23:50.06 | Zeal | *satellite |
| 23:50.08 | Tekkub | did I mention we didn't even get a whole inch? |
| 23:50.12 | Zeal | heh |
| 23:50.15 | Zeal | nope |
| 23:50.31 | Tekkub | these people are sad, I need to get back to Colorado NOW |
| 23:50.36 | Zeal | weren't you recovering form a blizzard about a week ago though? |
| 23:50.42 | Tekkub | 3 more months... 3 more months... 3 more months... |
| 23:50.52 | Tekkub | I'm in Arkansas |
| 23:51.01 | Tekkub | hickville USA |
| 23:51.01 | Zeal | means nothing to me :P |
| 23:51.10 | Zeal | lol |
| 23:51.20 | Tekkub | these people freak out if it snows |
| 23:51.40 | Tekkub | in CO this would have been "drive 55 MPH on the highway" weather at most |
| 23:51.44 | Zeal | well the chance of us getting snow is slim to none. |
| 23:51.51 | Zeal | perhaps in april.. rofl |
| 23:52.05 | equiraptor | We freak out if there's ice (snow? What's that?). |
| 23:52.08 | Tekkub | worst snows in CO are usually in late spring |
| 23:52.25 | equiraptor | But 3/4 of us have non-ice-compatible tires, and we have almost no sand trucks (and no salt trucks, apparently). |
| 23:52.39 | Tekkub | CO doesn't do slat.... |
| 23:52.42 | Tekkub | *salt |
| 23:52.51 | Tekkub | Magnesium Chloride |
| 23:52.54 | equiraptor | I'm in Austin, TX. |
| 23:52.56 | Zeal | we've had some frost, but no snow |
| 23:53.04 | Tekkub | yes technically it's a salt, but it's a liquid |
| 23:53.06 | Zeal | gritting trucks were out in force one week, and that was it. |
| 23:53.06 | equiraptor | I think there are 8 sand trucks in the entire metro area. |
| 23:53.15 | Tekkub | fucking Texans |
| 23:53.20 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:53.27 | equiraptor | What? :( |
| 23:53.29 | Tekkub | ^^ |
| 23:54.18 | Tekkub | CO is full of Californians and Texans |
| 23:54.34 | equiraptor | Heh. |
| 23:54.42 | equiraptor | Not real Texans, I'd think. |
| 23:54.42 | Tekkub | but I hate to say it, at least they can drive in the snow... even if not sanely |
| 23:55.07 | equiraptor | Real Texans wouldn't move out of Texas, especially not to a state with lots of Californians. ;) |
| 23:55.19 | Tekkub | Arkansans just freak out and drive into a ditch, it's sad to watch |
| 23:55.25 | equiraptor | heh |
| 23:55.45 | Tekkub | okey, let me put last night in context.... |
| 23:55.56 | Tekkub | it tkes 15min to get to work in bad rain... |
| 23:56.05 | Tekkub | highway is 5min away at best |
| 23:56.12 | Tekkub | hubby left at 3:30 |
| 23:56.20 | Tekkub | he returned to the house at 5 |
| 23:56.21 | Zeal | h.. online purchasing of tBC |
| 23:56.26 | Zeal | *hmm |
| 23:56.26 | Tekkub | he never even got to the highway |
| 23:56.42 | equiraptor | sheesh |
| 23:56.46 | Tekkub | yea |
| 23:57.06 | Tekkub | and at that point the roads were white, but car tracks still showed thru to the pavement |
| 23:57.23 | Tekkub | and it was that dry pellet-like snow, not even wet slippery shit |