| 00:18.39 | Zeal | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Zeal/Sandbox/Sidebar |
| 00:18.45 | Zeal | well that was amusing for a while :P |
| 00:18.59 | Zeal | trying to match the wowwiki design, lol. |
| 00:20.19 | Zeal | Tekkub, you drunk? :P |
| 00:20.34 | Tekkub | no but that's a great idea |
| 00:20.35 | Tekkub | thanks |
| 00:21.01 | Zeal | lol |
| 00:21.08 | Zeal | why the comment on icons? :p |
| 00:21.21 | Tekkub | dunno, just felt like it |
| 00:21.30 | Tekkub | been a long 3 days of bullshit training |
| 00:21.53 | Tekkub | I've done the whole barrage of shit an oilfield hand has to do |
| 00:22.08 | Tekkub | but all I do is answer the phones and audit their driving logs |
| 00:24.53 | Zeal | oh the training thingy again : / |
| 00:25.44 | Tekkub | yup |
| 00:26.01 | Tekkub | almost had to offer head to a coworker to get out of forklift driving |
| 00:26.26 | Tekkub | and considering how he seems to be borderline bi-curious, he woulda prolly let us |
| 00:27.24 | Tekkub | at least there's no more |
| 00:29.27 | Zeal | O_o |
| 00:29.39 | Zeal | yes, that sounds good, for all of us :P |
| 00:31.28 | Zeal | Fin, you about? |
| 00:32.05 | Adys | mm? |
| 00:32.12 | Adys | dingdingding |
| 00:32.17 | Zeal | http://www.wowwiki.com/Burning_Crusade thoughts on the disambig? |
| 00:32.21 | Zeal | dinged 70? :s |
| 00:32.35 | Adys | no, when you say "adys" it says "dingdingding" |
| 00:32.41 | Adys | thats why you woke me up |
| 00:32.44 | Zeal | oh, lol |
| 00:32.48 | Adys | and NICE template, the disambig one |
| 00:32.56 | Adys | really looks nice |
| 00:32.59 | Zeal | :) |
| 00:33.21 | Adys | but I am lvl 70 :p |
| 00:33.44 | Zeal | rofl, grats |
| 00:33.50 | Zeal | i'm lvl 1 and lvl 53 :p |
| 00:35.39 | Zeal | hm.. |
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| 01:06.33 | Tekkub | OMFG |
| 01:06.33 | Tekkub | http://www.reallifecomics.com/ |
| 01:12.17 | Zeal | there is no rl.. |
| 01:19.15 | Tekkub | god I forgot how cool this battlestar was |
| 01:19.39 | Tekkub | when they jump into the atmosphere, launch vipers, then jump out just beforethey hit the ground |
| 01:19.42 | Tekkub | hehe |
| 01:23.16 | Zeal | O_o |
| 01:23.29 | Zeal | i liked the old one, dislike the new one. |
| 01:24.24 | Tekkub | bah, more reason you suck |
| 01:25.30 | Zeal | http://www.wowwiki.com/Timeline new disambig page template :) |
| 01:40.32 | Zeal | C'Thun quotes, that's a random request :P |
| 01:42.57 | Thrae | C'Thun quote: "Fear my sensual tentacles!" |
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| 01:48.45 | Zeal | lol Thrae |
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| 02:11.14 | Zeal | nn all |
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| 05:57.43 | voidvector | zeal, you need to change the {{disambig}} template, its too big |
| 05:57.53 | voidvector | your new version is too big |
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| 07:25.49 | tingle | can someoe tell me why im not getting a frame ingame? : http://wowi.pastey.net/5537 |
| 07:30.12 | tingle | hello? anyone here |
| 07:31.41 | Fin | hello! |
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| 07:36.35 | tingle | can someoe tell me why im not getting a frame ingame? : http://wowi.pastey.net/5537 |
| 07:39.01 | amro | try /script MainFrame_frame:Show() |
| 07:39.46 | Fin | tingle, you realise this is the IRC channel for the WoWWiki? you might have more luck in a more code-related channel like #wowace or #wowi-lounge... or amro could just answer you instead |
| 07:40.19 | Fin | tingle |
| 07:40.24 | Fin | awesome nick |
| 07:41.00 | Fin | I like to tingle |
| 08:16.59 | tingle | i get a error message when i typ that |
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| 13:03.00 | seth___ | Hi there |
| 13:04.22 | seth___ | I got a question, are there "Names" for GetInventorySlotInfo for the Bank Slots? |
| 13:23.00 | amro | numbers |
| 13:26.16 | seth___ | Just asked because it was recommded to use the "Names" instead of the Numbers |
| 13:58.06 | zeal | lo all |
| 14:03.35 | seth___ | hi zeal |
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| 14:11.56 | zeal | hello new person :) |
| 14:11.59 | zeal | hey Tekkub |
| 14:13.45 | Tekkub | moo |
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| 14:34.23 | amro | seth___: http://www.wowwiki.com/API_TYPE_InventorySlotName |
| 14:51.24 | seth___ | amro I know but compare it with this list http://www.wowwiki.com/API_TYPE_InventorySlotID for me it seems like they express the same and if oyu look at the second list there is a second paragraph "Bank fram is open" those IDs don't seem to have an equivalent at API_TYPE_InventorySlotName and I was just wondering if there isn't an equivalent or if they're just missng. |
| 14:56.01 | amro | some functions take slotName and some take slotID |
| 14:56.24 | amro | though im not sure about the bank slots |
| 14:57.09 | amro | you can use the numbers or look around blizzard's code |
| 15:02.28 | seth___ | Ok, thanks :) |
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| 15:21.27 | zeal | hey Tusva |
| 15:23.26 | Tusva | o/ |
| 15:28.01 | Tusva | Wiki just drop off the internet for anyone else? |
| 15:28.29 | zeal | the wiki? indeed |
| 15:28.34 | zeal | : / |
| 15:28.37 | Tusva | :( |
| 15:29.18 | zeal | lol |
| 15:29.29 | Tusva | Or Goblin Jumper Cables, if you prefer :P |
| 15:29.43 | zeal | they never work :P |
| 15:30.10 | Tusva | except when you're screwing around and rez someone while the healers are rez'ing each other. but never when you're the last one left after a wipe! |
| 15:30.20 | Tusva | Oh it's back. I think. |
| 15:30.23 | zeal | hopefully a pala will come along, use redemption, bubble it and heal it :P |
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| 15:31.56 | Creator | sup ppl? =po |
| 15:31.57 | zeal | i gots nothing still :/ |
| 15:32.02 | zeal | no the wiki.. rofl |
| 15:32.05 | zeal | *not |
| 15:32.22 | Tusva | I get like, one page every minute. |
| 15:32.26 | Tusva | Not very effective. |
| 15:33.05 | Tusva | Well, guess I can go work on level 65. |
| 15:33.19 | zeal | it takes longer than a min for the server to even reply for me atm, so that's not helpful : / |
| 15:36.05 | Creator | nmnm anything happaned? any new system in wowwiki? |
| 15:40.38 | Tusva | It was working a few moments ago.. |
| 15:41.05 | seth___ | Thatg was a few moments ago ;) |
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| 15:42.32 | Creator | When you feel bitter, it is said you need to wear the happiest man'd shirt and you'll recover, jus then you will find he has none... what'd ya say? :D |
| 15:46.55 | Tusva | Adys <3 |
| 16:03.20 | zeal | hey Adys |
| 16:03.56 | zeal | hm.. i'm getting that a template is included on a page, when it isn't :s |
| 16:04.01 | zeal | two pages now.. |
| 16:04.53 | zeal | 3 pages.. |
| 16:04.55 | zeal | wtf :s |
| 16:07.36 | zeal | 5.. |
| 16:10.20 | Peter | moof. |
| 16:11.05 | Peter | you know |
| 16:11.26 | Peter | the ops should make this an about channel (##) |
| 16:11.31 | Peter | so we can have wowwiki cloaks :) |
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| 16:11.39 | Peter | they could be our class or something. Would be cool. |
| 16:11.47 | Adys | helloes |
| 16:11.56 | Peter | the ops should make this an about channel (##) |
| 16:11.59 | Peter | so we can have wowwiki cloaks :) |
| 16:12.16 | zeal | wb Adys, heh |
| 16:12.36 | Adys | you talked to me before? I got dc'd and had to reboot so I prob not seen anything |
| 16:13.25 | zeal | < Sat 27/01/2007 > < 15:46:54 pm > <Tusva> Adys <3 |
| 16:13.26 | zeal | < Sat 27/01/2007 > < 16:03:19 pm > <zeal> hey Adys |
| 16:15.00 | Peter | http://freenode.net/group_registration.shtml |
| 16:15.11 | Adys | oh :P |
| 16:15.16 | Adys | Tusva! <3 |
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| 16:17.22 | zeal | lol |
| 16:18.23 | zeal | that would be an idea Peter. |
| 16:19.06 | Adys | Zeal |
| 16:19.07 | Peter | would be cool |
| 16:19.29 | Adys | To make a template redirection, its #REDIRECT [[Template:Templatename]], right? |
| 16:20.15 | zeal | erm.. i beleive so |
| 16:20.19 | Adys | ok |
| 16:20.36 | Adys | Id deprecate {{Icon needed}} for {{Noicon}} |
| 16:20.51 | zeal | lol |
| 16:21.09 | Peter | who owns this channel Adys? :) |
| 16:21.37 | zeal | i'm very confused why so many pages are showing up as including a template, but don't :s |
| 16:21.50 | Adys | Peter: Mikk I believe |
| 16:21.59 | Adys | what you mean zeal? |
| 16:22.23 | Adys | some are using a template which is itself using another template |
| 16:22.23 | Adys | so the other template will be linked in it |
| 16:22.36 | zeal | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:Disambig&limit=500&from=0 |
| 16:22.44 | zeal | try enchanting |
| 16:23.01 | zeal | no disambig template, and no template that uses a disambig template exists on that page |
| 16:23.27 | Adys | {{For|lore on enchanting profession|Enchanter (Lore)}} ? |
| 16:24.05 | Adys | hrmm wait |
| 16:24.11 | zeal | yes but that's not {{Disambig}} :p |
| 16:25.20 | zeal | and adys, dunn if you've been following the item standardization talk at all, but it applies to spells too really. |
| 16:26.12 | Adys | been following, but I couldnt be there all the time due to other preoccupations atm |
| 16:26.20 | zeal | i haven't said it yet, but i can write something up to simply have {{{{FULLPAGENAME}}|icon}} instead of you maintaining serperate articles.. |
| 16:26.43 | Adys | please do so then |
| 16:27.01 | zeal | i'm waiting on the outcome of the item policy vote :p |
| 16:27.10 | Adys | Items != spells |
| 16:27.24 | Adys | and {{spellarticle}} is still in preparation |
| 16:27.25 | zeal | my reason for not doing so, is the fact that i question the need to pull such info. |
| 16:27.26 | Adys | its a project |
| 16:27.31 | Adys | atm another boilerplate is used |
| 16:27.53 | zeal | yes, but people have started following that practices for items. |
| 16:28.05 | zeal | *practice |
| 16:28.30 | Adys | dont care tbh, atm the {{effect}} template makes it impossible to use something else than raw wikicode or the actual boilerplate |
| 16:28.33 | Adys | else it screws up |
| 16:28.36 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Template:Spellarticle&action=edit |
| 16:28.47 | Adys | check it out, if you can improve it do so |
| 16:28.59 | Adys | its only used on the page Spell:00000 |
| 16:29.26 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/Spell:00000 |
| 16:30.07 | zeal | well wouldn't be editing that to do so, but i will do after items. |
| 16:30.10 | sancus | er |
| 16:30.21 | sancus | lol, why are a small number of spell ids listed on wowwiki |
| 16:30.23 | zeal | though i don't follow you about {{effect}} |
| 16:30.39 | Adys | what you mean sancus? |
| 16:30.59 | zeal | because no standard for spell articles was ever set sancus :P |
| 16:31.20 | zeal | some are named, some are numbered, some are designed for inclusions etc. |
| 16:31.29 | Adys | none are named |
| 16:31.40 | zeal | not under Spell: no |
| 16:31.41 | Adys | and all the ones numbered are designed for inclusions |
| 16:31.43 | zeal | but many are named |
| 16:31.53 | Adys | the ones named are articles themselves |
| 16:32.02 | sancus | I don't think there should be articles on spells that just list the spell ID and what it does, I mean |
| 16:32.02 | Adys | if you're talking about things like [[Fireball]] |
| 16:32.08 | zeal | as they all should be :p |
| 16:32.19 | Adys | yus zeal |
| 16:32.29 | Adys | but do you know how many different versions of fireball there are? |
| 16:32.39 | sancus | its completely ridiculous to attempt to catalogue spells on wowwiki |
| 16:32.43 | sancus | not even remotely equipped to do it right |
| 16:32.50 | zeal | it can do it fine |
| 16:33.00 | sancus | it'll always be out of date and completely useless and no one will use it |
| 16:33.07 | zeal | and no adys, not that it matters i nthe slightest. |
| 16:33.14 | Adys | its been discussed sancus |
| 16:33.16 | Adys | zeal: http://www.thottbot.com/?s=fireball |
| 16:33.24 | sancus | The spell db changes every patch |
| 16:33.28 | sancus | Often by hundreds of spells. |
| 16:33.32 | Adys | No, not the numbers |
| 16:33.37 | zeal | while there' the plan of introducing an item db behidn the scenes. |
| 16:33.52 | zeal | *why there's the |
| 16:33.58 | sancus | what do you mean not the numbers |
| 16:34.19 | Adys | I mean that there is nothing blocking us from creating a solid spell database |
| 16:34.25 | sancus | ???? |
| 16:34.31 | sancus | um, yes, there is |
| 16:34.33 | Adys | the ones listed in Category:Spells by ID are manually created |
| 16:34.35 | sancus | the fact that the wiki isn't capable of it |
| 16:34.44 | zeal | it is capable of it. |
| 16:34.48 | sancus | No, it's not. |
| 16:34.49 | Adys | it is indeed |
| 16:34.56 | Adys | it wont be done manually |
| 16:34.57 | Adys | thats all |
| 16:35.05 | zeal | no different from items, quests or any information we deal with. |
| 16:35.08 | sancus | Unless you intend to write a bot that's going to parse the spell data very patch and then edit the wiki |
| 16:35.10 | Adys | yup |
| 16:35.21 | Adys | yeah thats pretty much what we intend to do :p |
| 16:35.22 | sancus | er every |
| 16:35.25 | sancus | lol |
| 16:35.43 | Adys | No different from items, quests or any information we deal with as zeal said |
| 16:35.46 | sancus | That seems like a waste of time, since you'll never be able to compete with the real dbs, and you'll just pointlessly load the database |
| 16:35.48 | sancus | But hey |
| 16:35.56 | sancus | Do it if you want, I don't care :p |
| 16:35.59 | sancus | it's just a waste of time is all |
| 16:36.04 | Adys | playing wow is a waste of time |
| 16:36.08 | zeal | rofl |
| 16:36.09 | Adys | you do it to kill your time dont you? |
| 16:36.12 | Adys | well |
| 16:36.22 | Adys | I think we got where we should be then ^^ |
| 16:36.56 | Adys | and dont worry about loading the database |
| 16:37.02 | Adys | we are safe on this one |
| 16:37.12 | sancus | ??? |
| 16:37.28 | sancus | I'm pretty sure you shouldn't be attempting to tell me about the database :P |
| 16:37.38 | Adys | I know :P |
| 16:37.49 | Adys | I mean its only text |
| 16:37.50 | sancus | and I mean, I don't *really* care what you do |
| 16:37.55 | sancus | but no one will ever use wowwiki for spells or items |
| 16:38.08 | sancus | I would put my effort towards things they would use it for, is all |
| 16:38.24 | Adys | yes i know that too |
| 16:38.32 | Adys | spells as they are are not used for spells themselves |
| 16:38.33 | sancus | rather than trying to cover everything to do with WoW at all |
| 16:38.36 | Adys | they are used for items |
| 16:38.38 | sancus | hell |
| 16:38.48 | sancus | it's been over 2 years now |
| 16:39.04 | sancus | and there still isn't a single database site that exists that does spells in a way that matches thott's capability |
| 16:39.17 | sancus | The one area it is still completely superior |
| 16:39.31 | Adys | untrue, thottbot is very slow to update spells and items |
| 16:39.35 | zeal | sancus, you seem to think we'd try to directly compete and match the format of a db site? |
| 16:39.36 | sancus | nope |
| 16:39.41 | sancus | items, yes |
| 16:39.41 | zeal | far from it. |
| 16:39.50 | sancus | spells, it isn't slow and it provides information that no other site does |
| 16:39.51 | Adys | you could see it during the patch 2.0 |
| 16:40.00 | zeal | curse gaming tried, their's suck. |
| 16:40.00 | sancus | Spell update isn't dependent on users |
| 16:40.12 | sancus | and spells don't have anything to do with items, really |
| 16:40.16 | sancus | that's not what you want them |
| 16:40.18 | sancus | er why |
| 16:40.20 | zeal | rofl |
| 16:40.28 | Adys | while the spell "Increases critchance by 1%" was correctly changed into "Increases crit rating by 14", all the items using this spell were not changed |
| 16:40.33 | Adys | thats why I think thott sucks |
| 16:40.37 | zeal | you realive every effect on an item is a spell? :P |
| 16:40.42 | sancus | yes, I do |
| 16:40.47 | sancus | But that's not why you *want* a spell database in the first place. |
| 16:40.51 | zeal | then that is part of why we want them. |
| 16:40.57 | Adys | Yes it is sancus, lemme show you something |
| 16:41.06 | sancus | For that purpose, the spell db can be entirely behind the scenes. |
| 16:41.09 | sancus | it's irrelevant |
| 16:41.09 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Spell:13399 |
| 16:41.19 | zeal | sancus, i do agree with you there |
| 16:41.30 | Adys | and yeah it will be |
| 16:41.34 | sancus | the entire purpose of a public spell database |
| 16:41.35 | zeal | those types of spells can remain undocumented. |
| 16:41.48 | Adys | but why would it be more public than thott's? |
| 16:41.51 | zeal | but still need the db for them. |
| 16:41.56 | Adys | Yeah exactlyu |
| 16:41.57 | sancus | is so that you can look up detailed information on spells cast by mobs and by players that doesn't show up in-game |
| 16:41.58 | Adys | exactly* |
| 16:42.13 | sancus | no existing db shows all the key pieces of information that thott does |
| 16:42.15 | sancus | not a single one |
| 16:42.23 | sancus | (and I have NFC why, because it's easy to do so) |
| 16:42.29 | Adys | erm sancus |
| 16:42.34 | Adys | thottbot does show alot |
| 16:42.38 | Adys | but alot is wrong too |
| 16:42.43 | sancus | er |
| 16:42.45 | sancus | what is wrong? |
| 16:42.49 | zeal | thats because no one cares about that info really sancus, a select few modders and those hacking, that's about it. |
| 16:42.51 | Adys | things like alternative currencies for example |
| 16:42.57 | sancus | zeal: wrong |
| 16:43.01 | zeal | oh? |
| 16:43.05 | sancus | zeal: the entire raiding community cares about it |
| 16:43.06 | zeal | proof plx |
| 16:43.12 | sancus | where do you think people learn how to kill new bosses? |
| 16:43.14 | sancus | it's from that spell db :P |
| 16:43.19 | Adys | and yes sancus is correct there |
| 16:43.24 | zeal | lol? |
| 16:43.24 | sancus | not to mention |
| 16:43.29 | sancus | all the theorycrafters care about it deeply |
| 16:43.30 | zeal | that's not the info i'm talking about. |
| 16:43.40 | Adys | it is |
| 16:43.55 | Adys | http://www.thottbot.com/?sp=28786 |
| 16:44.00 | sancus | "alternative currencies", I dunno what you're talking about? |
| 16:44.12 | Adys | k sec lemme give you an example |
| 16:44.33 | *** join/#wowwiki Dragofix (i=Dragofix@dsl-hkigw8-fe10f800-107.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 16:45.10 | sancus | the thott spell database is always updated very quickly btw |
| 16:45.26 | Adys | sancus: yes |
| 16:45.27 | Adys | sec |
| 16:45.30 | sancus | The item database is a mess, I wouldn't argue that, but it's been a mess for a long time and won't be fixed any time soon :P |
| 16:45.42 | Adys | well thats the point |
| 16:45.49 | Adys | while a spell used on an item was changed |
| 16:45.57 | Adys | the item still had the old properties |
| 16:46.09 | Adys | the point of making a spelldatabase is exactly that |
| 16:46.12 | sancus | oh, sure |
| 16:46.18 | zeal | lol |
| 16:46.20 | sancus | but if I want to item data i go to wowhead or alla, not thott |
| 16:46.25 | sancus | er -to |
| 16:46.31 | Adys | same :P |
| 16:46.34 | sancus | however |
| 16:46.44 | sancus | if I want to know the global cooldown on a spell, what type it is, and what dispels it or counters it |
| 16:46.45 | sancus | I go to thott |
| 16:46.46 | zeal | i go to wowhead >_> |
| 16:46.51 | sancus | cuz nowhere else has that data |
| 16:46.55 | sancus | at all |
| 16:46.57 | sancus | (which is stupid) |
| 16:47.09 | zeal | if i want spell data i go to my dbc files.. lol |
| 16:47.22 | Adys | zeal no hes right there |
| 16:47.31 | Adys | thottbot's spell database is very very good |
| 16:47.44 | Adys | and btw |
| 16:47.48 | sancus | yeah I'm sure the solution I'm looking for is "writing my own dbc parser" :P |
| 16:47.48 | Adys | the npc database is a mess too |
| 16:47.53 | sancus | yes |
| 16:47.59 | sancus | pretty much all of thott sucks these days except the spell db |
| 16:48.13 | sancus | That's because thott doesn't really care as much as he used to because he's sick of being jerked around by IGE |
| 16:48.17 | sancus | but that's neither here nor there |
| 16:48.56 | zeal | if i had any gripe with cosmos, it's the thott affiliation, heh. |
| 16:49.02 | sancus | errr |
| 16:49.04 | sancus | if it wasn't for thott |
| 16:49.06 | sancus | cosmos wouldn't exist |
| 16:49.30 | zeal | and? :p |
| 16:49.37 | sancus | and he also owns cosmos |
| 16:49.39 | sancus | sooo |
| 16:50.13 | Adys | Hey Baggins, got another question, I saw a picture with High Elves & Blood Elves riding lions, but the lions had a wolf-like tail. Do you know what they are called or anything at all about them? Another thing, almost every non-playable race has a mount. Do you know what a Pandaren's mount probally is? MR.X8 |
| 16:50.44 | sancus | I hope wowhead improves their shit so that it can compete effectively with alla/thott |
| 16:50.46 | zeal | put it a better way, my gripe is with cosmos reporting to thottbot which is owned by IGE, and thus the database is used to fuel and help gold sellers and farmers directly. |
| 16:51.01 | sancus | so is alla |
| 16:51.05 | zeal | i know |
| 16:51.08 | sancus | but that's cute |
| 16:51.17 | sancus | entirely irrelevant, but cute! |
| 16:51.21 | zeal | i left alla once they got bought. |
| 16:51.25 | zeal | hardly irrelevent. |
| 16:51.45 | zeal | *i stopped using alla |
| 16:51.50 | sancus | again, cute |
| 16:51.56 | sancus | But the average user doesn't care who owns what |
| 16:52.12 | sancus | they only care about whose server is up, fast, and providing useful results to their searches |
| 16:52.12 | zeal | rofl, alla proved that's not the case :P |
| 16:52.21 | sancus | how so |
| 16:52.24 | axxo | wowhead.com ftw |
| 16:52.58 | sancus | I have never seen anything remotely resembling proof that people stopped using a site because it was owned by IGE |
| 16:53.09 | zeal | it's those that don't care about gold selling or condone gold selling that don't care. Alla lost a large portion of it's subscribers and user base. |
| 16:53.13 | sancus | apart from a few whackos |
| 16:53.26 | Adys | zeal, 500 ppl whining about allakhazam being bought by IGE dont stand against the thousands of users using it |
| 16:53.29 | zeal | and what axxo said :P |
| 16:53.32 | sancus | if you say so :P |
| 16:53.46 | sancus | wowhead is competing effectively on the 'accurate search results and fast server' front |
| 16:53.50 | sancus | if they werent, no one would give a shit |
| 16:53.53 | Adys | allakhazam being down on a patchday just proves they didnt loose their users |
| 16:53.57 | zeal | those 500 are most subscribers adys, people that matter. |
| 16:54.07 | sancus | eh |
| 16:54.09 | zeal | *mostly |
| 16:54.14 | sancus | most of alla's revenue is ads not subscribers |
| 16:54.17 | sancus | guaranteed |
| 16:54.21 | zeal | sure. |
| 16:55.10 | Adys | gonna get something to eat ill be back later |
| 16:55.29 | sancus | I think it was a mistake of alla to implement subscriber stuff in the first place |
| 16:55.57 | sancus | not worth the cost of supporting it |
| 16:56.06 | zeal | heh |
| 16:56.13 | sancus | plus you get a cabal of worthless users |
| 16:56.17 | sancus | who contribute a minimal amount to your revenue |
| 16:56.25 | sancus | but think they're "special" and deserve "special consideration" |
| 16:56.32 | Dragofix | i m ostly hate those stupid gold adv banners :p |
| 16:56.44 | zeal | mostly? |
| 16:56.49 | Dragofix | ye |
| 16:57.45 | zeal | O_o |
| 16:57.54 | Dragofix | first of all theytake loading time, they are ugly, stupid and against blizz tou.. |
| 16:58.25 | Dragofix | when i search some information about quest and stuff |
| 16:58.37 | Dragofix | i need to wait till this stupid banner downloads |
| 16:58.45 | Dragofix | and usually its just jammed |
| 16:58.52 | Dragofix | so page wont load because of it |
| 16:59.00 | sancus | blizzard tou doesnt have anything to do with the site, just fyi |
| 16:59.19 | Dragofix | i know, but its against rules to sell/buy gold |
| 17:00.23 | zeal | which IGE does, and they own the site, plus the sites in the ads do it too, thus it has plenty to do with it :P |
| 17:00.38 | sancus | I hate to say it, but welcome to reality |
| 17:00.39 | zeal | why only mostly though Dragofix? |
| 17:00.40 | sancus | the rules are irrelevant |
| 17:01.06 | zeal | the rules are rules |
| 17:01.15 | Dragofix | dunno, im tired and off to sleep :) |
| 17:01.19 | sancus | yes |
| 17:01.27 | zeal | rules are also law. Blizzard aren't taking steps to enforce it, that's all. |
| 17:01.34 | sancus | no, they're not law |
| 17:01.52 | sancus | Blizzard aren't taking steps to enforce it because they aren't as stupid as their rules would lead you to believe. |
| 17:01.57 | zeal | any person who plays the game agrees to those terms, thus they are bound by law. |
| 17:02.16 | sancus | They don't want to throw away the revenue created by the people who buy/sell gold. |
| 17:02.24 | sancus | At the end of the day, bottom line comes first. |
| 17:02.42 | sancus | Not to mention the obscene support costs of hunting them down. |
| 17:02.44 | zeal | i'm not even talking about the reasoning |
| 17:02.56 | sancus | Btw |
| 17:02.58 | zeal | >_> |
| 17:03.01 | sancus | you're completely wrong about being bound by law |
| 17:03.07 | zeal | oh? |
| 17:03.31 | zeal | Eula's are invalid now? news to me. |
| 17:03.37 | sancus | It's theoretically the case, however, tou are only valid if they don't contradict existing laws and under a number of other conditions. |
| 17:03.47 | zeal | ofc |
| 17:03.53 | sancus | There's no way to tell if Blizzard's EULA for WoW in the current day would hold up in court. |
| 17:03.57 | sancus | without actually taking it to court |
| 17:04.11 | sancus | And they don't want to take it to court |
| 17:04.14 | sancus | because if they lose, they lose everything |
| 17:04.21 | zeal | which one of the reason why they do not wish to take action, it may be determined the EULA is not acceptable. |
| 17:04.30 | zeal | *is one |
| 17:04.32 | sancus | Which is precisely why it's not law. |
| 17:04.44 | sancus | Because neither Blizzard nor anyone else is sure that it would hold up. |
| 17:04.45 | zeal | it's law until it's challanged |
| 17:04.50 | sancus | other way around |
| 17:04.53 | sancus | it's not law until it IS challenged |
| 17:04.57 | zeal | it's enforcement is a different matter. |
| 17:05.17 | sancus | until it's challenged, it's just a happy grey area that everyone is content to nod their heads about |
| 17:05.17 | zeal | nope, i was right the first time thanks : / |
| 17:05.20 | sancus | and ignore in all practical matters |
| 17:05.59 | sancus | uh huh, sure ya were |
| 17:06.19 | sancus | Even if it WOULD be held up |
| 17:06.39 | sancus | it's civil not, not criminal, and therefore is completely worthless and ineffective unless you sue people using it |
| 17:06.44 | sancus | which blizzard is unwilling to do |
| 17:06.54 | zeal | ofc |
| 17:06.56 | sancus | so it's all just a house of cards of theoretical nonsense that they hope and pray they're covered their asses against |
| 17:07.06 | sancus | and in the real world, people will continue to do whatever they want to :P |
| 17:07.14 | zeal | as i said, the enforcement is a different matter. |
| 17:07.39 | zeal | if no one will take appropriate action, it means nothing. |
| 17:07.48 | sancus | it actually means more than that |
| 17:08.07 | sancus | blizzard's case is slowly eroding and it will only be a few more years until it's untenable |
| 17:08.18 | zeal | how so? |
| 17:09.06 | zeal | i half except them to add something about spam in wow soon. eg. i get about 5-10 gold selling mails a week. |
| 17:09.11 | sancus | Because the more virtual property selling continues to proliferate, the closer it comes to becoming explicitly legal with it's own surrounding laws. |
| 17:09.18 | sancus | It's already happened in asia |
| 17:09.23 | sancus | it's only a matter of time before it happens here |
| 17:09.32 | zeal | true |
| 17:09.55 | zeal | reminds me of the current issue of ticket touts |
| 17:09.55 | sancus | which is why blizzard's dumb, if they were smart, they would stop trying to imagine they can fight things people want to do with rules |
| 17:09.57 | sancus | because they can't |
| 17:10.10 | sancus | and they'd fight it with economic incentive instead, like EVE does |
| 17:10.57 | zeal | i side with blizz, though i don't expect it would hold up. |
| 17:12.16 | zeal | doing what you've suggest removes the quality and experience (fun, challanging, humor) of the game, soemthing blizzard pride themselves on. They'd never bow to preasure to do that, and their rules reflect that. |
| 17:12.28 | sancus | no it doesnt |
| 17:12.43 | zeal | ofc it does >_> |
| 17:12.50 | sancus | it changes nothing |
| 17:13.32 | sancus | If being able to obtain in-game gold(which btw, is laughably worthless in its utility compared to money in EVE), then it's a bit late. |
| 17:13.47 | zeal | here you go, have enough gold to get the best of everything, also i've just made you the highest level you can be too, skipping all the content in the game you would have done. |
| 17:13.47 | sancus | The quality and experience of the game is *already* gone, because it's quite trivial to buy gold in WoW if you want to. |
| 17:14.23 | sancus | people can already buy those things |
| 17:14.46 | zeal | hardly, majority of people play without gold selling and without powerleveling or buying accounts. |
| 17:14.48 | sancus | the fact that blizzard "doesn't condone it" means nothing |
| 17:14.59 | sancus | er so? |
| 17:15.17 | zeal | so far everyone i've ever met in-game that has, have funnily enough vanished.. heh. |
| 17:15.28 | sancus | Even if you could buy gold directly from blizzard(and that's not even what I'm suggesting), it's fairly unlikely more people would do it. |
| 17:15.50 | sancus | unless they reduced prices a lot, but theres no reason to do that |
| 17:15.53 | zeal | that's not what you were suggesting? |
| 17:16.01 | zeal | and i think people would. |
| 17:16.15 | sancus | buying gold is expensive |
| 17:16.23 | Adys | you do realize money is fuck all easy to make since Burning Crusade, though? |
| 17:16.25 | sancus | it's expensive as hell relative to its value in the game, which is almost nothing |
| 17:16.39 | zeal | ofc sancus, nd sure adys :p |
| 17:16.41 | sancus | in EVE, money is EVERYTHING |
| 17:16.48 | zeal | but you need to up your levels still. |
| 17:16.54 | Adys | and? |
| 17:16.55 | sancus | yet for some reason, the ability to obtain it with real $$ doesn't seem to upset the fun of the game |
| 17:16.59 | Adys | that takes nothing, few weeks |
| 17:17.05 | Adys | you get money on the way too |
| 17:17.24 | zeal | EVE is shit anyways, so i wouldn't give that example to me :p |
| 17:17.26 | sancus | in EVE, players can sell game time codes to other players for ingame money(isk) |
| 17:17.41 | sancus | EVE is shit? lol, aren't we an enlightened gamer |
| 17:17.42 | zeal | ofc adys, but those few weeks is a great deal of content |
| 17:17.58 | sancus | so they buy time codes, and sell them to in-game players who want to play the game for free |
| 17:18.00 | sancus | it works quite well |
| 17:18.07 | sancus | and almost completely destroys the 3rd party gold seller market |
| 17:18.18 | Adys | I was at 4500 gold when BC came out. I didnt do any auction house selling or anything, I levelled to 70 in 11 days, I bought my epic flying mount and I have 300 gold left now |
| 17:18.19 | zeal | if power leveling was allowed, it'd be wasted, blizz would be bisheartened and take less care in creating new content. |
| 17:18.29 | Adys | which means in 11 days I made 1800 gold |
| 17:18.30 | sancus | ??? |
| 17:18.35 | sancus | power levelling is already allowed |
| 17:18.45 | zeal | no it's not.. |
| 17:18.48 | zeal | but it's done |
| 17:18.50 | sancus | the fact that they have a theoretical rule that says it isn't means nothing |
| 17:19.09 | sancus | they are essentially hiding being a paper tiger |
| 17:19.09 | zeal | and that one would hold up, as its tranfering/sharing account access |
| 17:19.20 | sancus | when they could, in fact, have direct and complete control over the market if they wanted it |
| 17:19.31 | sancus | Personally I think controlling the market is better than pretending it doesn't exist and having no influence over it |
| 17:19.54 | sancus | but either way, the market exists |
| 17:19.59 | sancus | and theres nothing you can do about it |
| 17:20.00 | zeal | i would rather see the market removed, as would blizz. |
| 17:20.05 | sancus | yes |
| 17:20.09 | sancus | but that's impossible |
| 17:20.21 | zeal | that's for the courts to decide :p |
| 17:20.24 | sancus | and no, I think you're wrong |
| 17:20.24 | sancus | blizz wouldn't want to see it removed |
| 17:20.39 | sancus | If they did, they would take much more severe action than they do |
| 17:20.50 | sancus | But it's a revenue stream for them, so why would they want to willingly reduce their revenue? |
| 17:20.50 | zeal | we've already said why they won't |
| 17:21.01 | sancus | They can do it without the courts |
| 17:21.03 | zeal | they have no direct revenue from it. |
| 17:21.09 | sancus | how not? |
| 17:21.09 | Adys | erm yes zeal |
| 17:21.13 | sancus | are you crazy? |
| 17:21.20 | Adys | every bot is 11 euros per month |
| 17:21.21 | zeal | direct.. |
| 17:21.24 | sancus | you think all those farmer accounts that get recreated every couple of months due to bannings are free? :p |
| 17:21.28 | sancus | that they pay no subscriber fees? :p |
| 17:21.35 | zeal | ok granted on those. |
| 17:21.44 | sancus | they're pretty significant, I assure you |
| 17:21.54 | sancus | And hey |
| 17:21.58 | sancus | blizzard COULD eliminate them |
| 17:22.03 | Adys | they eventually ban the master accounts |
| 17:22.08 | Adys | but leave the bots |
| 17:22.10 | Adys | they do no harm |
| 17:22.12 | sancus | by doubling or tripling the amount of money they are putting into people who track them and ban them |
| 17:22.19 | sancus | I'm sure they could cut it down to a tiny trickle at best |
| 17:22.26 | zeal | afaikn, they ban the accounts period adys |
| 17:22.34 | sancus | But go try to sell pumping millions of dollars into _reducing your own revenue_ to management |
| 17:22.34 | zeal | unsure what you mean by master account. |
| 17:22.36 | sancus | GL with that |
| 17:23.03 | Adys | master account = the accounts recieving the gold to transfer it etc |
| 17:23.05 | Adys | easy to track down |
| 17:23.10 | zeal | for the sake of the integrity of my product, i certainly would. |
| 17:23.12 | Adys | once you got a bot you're not forced to ban it |
| 17:23.15 | Adys | you can just follow it |
| 17:23.17 | sancus | you would |
| 17:23.18 | Adys | to see where the gold goes |
| 17:23.26 | zeal | i see |
| 17:23.29 | sancus | except you can't say that, because you're in the situation |
| 17:23.37 | zeal | *not in :p |
| 17:23.43 | sancus | and most likely you aren't the kind of person who would become management in a company in the first place :P |
| 17:23.45 | zeal | i can say it, just no impact. |
| 17:23.50 | Adys | LOL |
| 17:23.53 | Adys | sorry |
| 17:23.54 | zeal | well no, i hate money tbh |
| 17:23.59 | sancus | so there you go |
| 17:24.29 | sancus | Blizzard is a company operated by a bigger company who is seriously in debt and for whom blizzard's revenue is a drop in the bucket. |
| 17:24.30 | zeal | why the hell am i stil in lowercase. only just noticed :s |
| 17:24.42 | sancus | I can promise you that the #1 priority at Blizzard HQ is the bottom line |
| 17:24.58 | Zeal | hardly :p |
| 17:25.08 | Zeal | has as much weight as what i said. |
| 17:25.19 | sancus | no it doesnt |
| 17:25.31 | sancus | because it's in line with the concept of a company in the first place |
| 17:25.35 | sancus | which is to make a profit |
| 17:25.54 | sancus | There's a reason that firms are assumed to be profit maximizing entities in economics :P |
| 17:26.01 | Zeal | theres making a profit, and theres how far you will go and how much you will forsake to make a profit. |
| 17:26.12 | sancus | see above about profit maximizing entities |
| 17:26.37 | Zeal | yes, and you don't know what the case or situation is with blizzard. |
| 17:26.47 | sancus | I don't need to know |
| 17:26.55 | Zeal | you do to make that promise :P |
| 17:26.59 | sancus | No I don't |
| 17:27.04 | *** join/#wowwiki kaso (n=kaso@resnet01.nat.lancs.ac.uk) |
| 17:27.08 | sancus | vivendi's financials are a matter of public record |
| 17:27.30 | Zeal | ofc |
| 17:27.33 | Zeal | you'd have to be blind to notice a change in blizzard because of it. |
| 17:27.37 | Zeal | *to not notice |
| 17:27.41 | sancus | if you can honestly sit there and say 'hey, a subsidiary of a public company who is deeply in debt isn't profit maximizing!', then you're pretty deluded |
| 17:28.21 | sancus | and ignoring gold selling is a laughably irrelevant moral issue compared to the much more serious moral issues facing such companies |
| 17:28.42 | sancus | you seem to think that gold selling is this big, horrible evil, but in fact, morally it's not, and morally speaking, people at a huge company have way bigger things to worry about |
| 17:28.46 | Zeal | i beleive blizzard won't taint their god reputation to meet their parent companies demands, but they will certainly compramise and bend to them. |
| 17:29.16 | Zeal | and those bigger moral issues are? |
| 17:30.06 | sancus | for vivendi? Probably copyright law and financial securities law |
| 17:30.20 | sancus | regarding their media properties and general stock situations |
| 17:31.03 | sancus | anyway, back to work for me |
| 17:31.05 | Zeal | talking about blizz :P |
| 17:31.10 | Zeal | lol kk |
| 17:32.07 | Adys | infobot, what is your opinion about gold selling companies? |
| 17:32.13 | infobot | Adys: what are you talking about? |
| 17:32.19 | Adys | idiot |
| 17:32.32 | Zeal | where's kirkburn, why's the wiki so dead today? :( |
| 17:32.36 | Zeal | lol |
| 17:34.05 | Zeal | i might actually go play some wow *shockhorroramazementsurprisebuttsechs* :o |
| 17:35.14 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=User_talk:SilverSide&curid=18811&diff=457615&oldid=417294&rcid=368071 |
| 17:35.15 | Adys | wth |
| 17:35.48 | Zeal | er.. lol O_o |
| 17:36.48 | Zeal | my guess is it've either silverside himself under a new name, or someone he knows :s |
| 17:37.19 | Adys | No Thursday is an old member |
| 17:38.13 | Zeal | i see |
| 17:38.23 | Zeal | *that now |
| 17:38.24 | Zeal | lol |
| 17:39.01 | Adys | zeal |
| 17:39.05 | Adys | whats the difference beetween |
| 17:39.06 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Icon-disambig-22x22.png |
| 17:39.11 | Adys | and http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Icon-disambig.png |
| 17:39.45 | Adys | oh and btw |
| 17:39.45 | Adys | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27979#go-to-comment-25678 |
| 17:39.48 | Adys | LOL at the comment |
| 17:41.04 | Zeal | disambig is is 24x24, all the ones without sizes are. preferablly i would have liekd some 16x16 versions for smaller font sizes, but the smallest was 22x22 |
| 17:41.27 | Zeal | i've been using 22x22 for when it's used inline with text smalller than 1em. |
| 17:41.50 | Adys | ok |
| 17:42.57 | Zeal | if you have the power, could you handle http://www.wowwiki.com/Image_talk:Icon-information.png |
| 17:43.28 | Adys | ok |
| 17:43.42 | Zeal | hm.. icon pack is not uploaded anymore.. so.. give me a sec, and i'll ul it |
| 17:43.46 | Adys | which one you want me to replace it by? |
| 17:44.33 | Zeal | http://www.zealvurte.co.uk/temp/Icon-information.png |
| 17:45.32 | Adys | done |
| 17:45.54 | Zeal | rofl @ the item comment btw :P |
| 17:46.00 | Zeal | jumped off a cliff, lol. |
| 17:46.25 | Zeal | ty |
| 17:47.28 | Creator | yo guys what's up? |
| 17:47.46 | Creator | what you are doin? |
| 17:52.03 | Zeal | about to play wow |
| 17:53.22 | Creator | on what server are u? |
| 17:55.57 | zeal | darn patches.. |
| 17:56.25 | zeal | Lightning's blade atm, though about to play on Darkspear with a new char (Both EU) |
| 17:58.44 | zeal | hate that the blizz downloader doesn't provide the ability to cap upload rate.. |
| 17:58.54 | zeal | i don't enjoy my net being saturated.. |
| 17:59.32 | Adys | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=30097188 |
| 18:01.30 | zeal | lol adys |
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| 18:02.31 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+o Kirkburn] by ChanServ |
| 18:02.35 | zeal | Kirkburn! |
| 18:02.45 | Kirkburn | zeal! |
| 18:02.51 | Kirkburn | You should be afk! |
| 18:02.51 | zeal | <3 |
| 18:02.55 | Kirkburn | =) |
| 18:02.58 | zeal | i am busy |
| 18:03.03 | zeal | gunna play wow for once :o |
| 18:03.05 | Adys | Kirkburn oO |
| 18:03.07 | Kirkburn | Lol |
| 18:03.09 | Adys | hullo :) |
| 18:03.11 | Kirkburn | Almost 64 now :) |
| 18:03.17 | Adys | boo! |
| 18:03.21 | Adys | Im 70 :P |
| 18:03.24 | Kirkburn | I want VV to continue with the loot template changes |
| 18:03.27 | Adys | and epic flying mount is priceless |
| 18:03.33 | Kirkburn | Grats |
| 18:03.37 | zeal | loot template changes? |
| 18:03.37 | Adys | well no |
| 18:03.46 | Kirkburn | lcommon --> loot |
| 18:03.54 | zeal | oh, bot |
| 18:03.55 | zeal | kk |
| 18:03.56 | Kirkburn | etc, etc |
| 18:04.00 | Adys | the epic flying mount is definetly not priceless, but flying with others gryphons is ^^ anyways |
| 18:04.10 | Adys | was starting to rework on the spell template |
| 18:04.17 | Kirkburn | I know Hob got annoyed, but I think he's calmed and realised it's a good thing |
| 18:04.29 | zeal | Kirkburn, any idea why a page (many in this case) would should up as including a template, when they don't? :S |
| 18:04.42 | Kirkburn | *show ? |
| 18:04.44 | Peter | http://www.thecuteproject.com/photos/1801/crinkle.crinkle/ |
| 18:04.52 | Kirkburn | Example, please :) |
| 18:04.54 | zeal | *show yes |
| 18:05.08 | Kirkburn | aww |
| 18:05.43 | zeal | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:Disambig |
| 18:05.53 | zeal | check out enchanting among many others |
| 18:06.08 | zeal | and yes.. i changed another template >_>; |
| 18:07.39 | Kirkburn | Nice |
| 18:08.19 | Kirkburn | lol wtf |
| 18:08.36 | Kirkburn | Look at the templates used: http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Enchanting&action=edit |
| 18:09.03 | Tusva | heya Kirk o/ |
| 18:09.12 | Kirkburn | Needs a tidy that page anyway :) |
| 18:09.15 | Kirkburn | Tusva, hulloo |
| 18:09.41 | Kirkburn | So no-one can think of extra places to put icons around the wiki? ^^ |
| 18:09.49 | Adys | Tusva! |
| 18:09.58 | Tusva | :D |
| 18:09.58 | Adys | Kirk yes I do |
| 18:10.00 | Adys | I was searching |
| 18:10.19 | Adys | Move page |
| 18:10.19 | Adys | From WoWWiki |
| 18:10.19 | Adys | Move succeeded |
| 18:10.19 | Adys | Jump to: navigation, search |
| 18:10.19 | Adys | Page "User:Adys/Sandbox" moved to "User:Adys/Dev". |
| 18:10.23 | Tusva | More votes imo so we can get this sucker standardized http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Policy/Item_Article_Standardization |
| 18:10.28 | Adys | can you add it an icon? |
| 18:11.01 | Kirkburn | The move suceeded page? |
| 18:11.14 | zeal | Kirkburn, you didn't reply about my comment on your use of the news icon for categories :P |
| 18:11.21 | Adys | yeah |
| 18:11.28 | zeal | i was thinking of adding folder icons for categories. |
| 18:11.35 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Icon-redirect-48x48.png would be fine |
| 18:11.53 | Kirkburn | zeal, I needed to? :P |
| 18:12.04 | zeal | needed to? :p |
| 18:12.18 | Kirkburn | I didn't realise you actually wanted an answer! |
| 18:12.21 | zeal | Icon-article.png would have been more appropriate i thought :p |
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| 18:12.43 | zeal | adys, theres an icon-move.png don't forget :P |
| 18:12.51 | Adys | yeah but its already used |
| 18:13.06 | zeal | np then |
| 18:13.41 | zeal | does "all" for addons apply per-server? :s |
| 18:13.49 | zeal | cos that's really starting to piss me off.. |
| 18:13.58 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/MediaWiki:Categoryarticlecount zeal? |
| 18:14.25 | Tusva | zeal, I think you should make a section of your user page that contains all the things about WoWWiki that piss you off. though it might be pretty lengthy :P |
| 18:14.52 | Adys | lol |
| 18:15.05 | Kirkburn | brb |
| 18:15.13 | zeal | it would be indeed tusva |
| 18:15.32 | Adys | kirk btw |
| 18:15.46 | Adys | you can just use a link to test the page |
| 18:15.47 | zeal | i forget the directly link, soemthing like http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Zeal/Changes |
| 18:15.55 | zeal | *direct |
| 18:16.05 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:Movepage&action=success&oldtitle=Page&newtitle=Newpage&talkmoved=notalkpage |
| 18:16.21 | Adys | without having to redirect anything |
| 18:17.41 | zeal | that needs a move icon imo. |
| 18:18.16 | Adys | yes but the move icon is already used in the precedent page ;) |
| 18:18.38 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:Movepage&target=User%3AAdys |
| 18:22.35 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:Movepage&action=success&oldtitle=Page&newtitle=Newpage&talkmoved=notalkpage |
| 18:22.44 | Adys | <3 |
| 18:23.47 | Adys | actually |
| 18:23.58 | Adys | is it possible to replace the redirect icon itself? |
| 18:23.58 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Outlands&redirect=no |
| 18:24.13 | Kirkburn | That requires server access |
| 18:24.24 | Kirkburn | i.e. ask sancus :) |
| 18:27.09 | zeal | i still would prefer the move icon there. |
| 18:27.20 | Adys | zeal.. :p |
| 18:27.34 | Adys | you're afk! |
| 18:27.54 | zeal | i'm looking for a new version fo equipcompare.. |
| 18:27.55 | zeal | lol |
| 18:32.23 | Adys | oh shit |
| 18:32.38 | Adys | sorry for the slowdown, was editing Effect2's category. |
| 18:35.33 | zeal | lol |
| 18:35.48 | zeal | adys, you created {{effect}} right? |
| 18:36.27 | zeal | hm.. hang on :s |
| 18:36.34 | Adys | yes |
| 18:36.35 | Adys | why? |
| 18:37.23 | zeal | ok, wait nvm. yeah erm, any changes you make to it or w/e just make sure you keep an eye on it's use in {{tooltip}} so they can work together |
| 18:38.10 | Adys | i dont plan to change it |
| 18:38.23 | zeal | atm, effects can be done with effect=<effect> or effect=|elink={{effect|<spellid>}} or something :s |
| 18:38.26 | zeal | kk, jsut checking. |
| 18:38.28 | Adys | until the spell: namespace is in value anyways |
| 18:38.30 | zeal | and giving a heads up. |
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| 18:40.50 | Adys | Woot |
| 18:40.55 | Adys | captain placeholder on wowradio |
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| 18:57.17 | Kirkburn | EQCompare, zeal, it's Ace2 |
| 18:57.37 | Kirkburn | Though having said that, what's wrong with EquipCompare? |
| 18:59.11 | Thrae | Although it may need to be updated now that Blizzard has included EquipCompare-like functionality for Auction House items. |
| 18:59.34 | Thrae | Actually I need to test if that's true...my Mom swears it is. |
| 19:03.30 | zeal | O_o |
| 19:03.46 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 19:03.48 | zeal | well i'm using EquipCompare, never heard of the EQ one. |
| 19:03.58 | Thrae | www.wowace.com/files |
| 19:03.59 | Kirkburn | zeal, I know of a family with three generations of WoW players |
| 19:04.06 | Thrae | I never had a problem with EQCompare |
| 19:05.01 | Kirkburn | Try 'watch'ing a wiki page now =) |
| 19:06.43 | zeal | lol Kirkburn |
| 19:07.03 | zeal | erm.. getting weird graphical issues :s |
| 19:07.25 | zeal | borders of buffs and the borders aroudn the colour boxes in the chat frame options are like.. vibrating :s |
| 19:08.44 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 19:08.54 | Kirkburn | zeal, author says: <Legorol> 2.9.8b is the latest version, it shows as out of date in WoW but works |
| 19:09.09 | Kirkburn | (author of EquipCompare, that is) |
| 19:09.12 | Kirkburn | He's just been busy |
| 19:11.52 | zeal | using 2.9.8 afaik |
| 19:11.55 | zeal | no b :s |
| 19:12.04 | zeal | w/e is on curse |
| 19:16.19 | zeal | no idea about that graphical issue? :s |
| 19:16.44 | zeal | it seems to be on all item icon borders when over a light bg :s |
| 19:17.06 | zeal | can only assume its the same with the chat option colour boxes as they have white borders |
| 19:17.15 | zeal | it's like fluctuating aa |
| 19:18.33 | zeal | scratch that, it's nothing to do with bg, it's simply its far mroe noticable when facing a certain direction in the game.. which makes no sense at all (this include items in the quest log too) |
| 19:27.10 | Kirkburn | No idea whatsoever |
| 19:27.32 | Kirkburn | For such an amazingly popular page, the Aldor v Scryer thing is getting few edits |
| 19:29.41 | zeal | if its the one that was linked in the item talk, i've expressed my opinion of it. |
| 19:31.23 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Comparison_of_Aldor_and_Scryer_rewards ? |
| 19:32.39 | zeal | dunno why you linked the talk page, but yes, that page :P |
| 19:33.24 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 19:35.05 | Kirkburn | 6. Comparison of Aldor and Scryer rewards (666,366 views) =) |
| 19:35.14 | Kirkburn | 5. World of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade (723,736 views) |
| 19:35.22 | Kirkburn | 4. Class (807,509 views) |
| 19:35.28 | Kirkburn | 3. Naxxramas (1,035,888 views) |
| 19:35.32 | Tusva | Looks like using tooltips for comparison makes sense to everyone but you Zeal :P |
| 19:35.35 | Kirkburn | 2. Instance guide (1,198,494 views) |
| 19:35.51 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 19:36.00 | Kirkburn | Oh and... |
| 19:36.01 | Kirkburn | 1. Main Page (9,046,744 views) |
| 19:36.17 | Kirkburn | We've hit 9 million page views on the front page, even though the ticker is widly inaccurate! :D |
| 19:36.25 | Kirkburn | *wildly |
| 19:36.49 | Kirkburn | It was only at around 2-3 million last august |
| 19:37.49 | Kirkburn | zeal, er .... |
| 19:37.53 | Kirkburn | Did you read this? http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Addon_pages |
| 19:38.52 | Kirkburn | If only I'd known about that last night, it would have made our conversation much shorter |
| 19:40.25 | zeal | taking me away from precious wow time! :P |
| 19:42.32 | zeal | still would of had the discussion, and the fact you missed that page yourself shows it needs to be brought to light a bit more. |
| 19:42.37 | zeal | but yeah, cool. |
| 19:43.15 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 19:43.27 | hokatichenci | Are there any real guidelines for adding new kinda unnecessary content? I've got a screenshot of the new kazzak at the throne of kiljaeden and I was also thinking of adding some information about a game we have on dark iron to the fel reaver page |
| 19:44.10 | zeal | a game? |
| 19:44.15 | hokatichenci | Yeah we call it reaver sapping |
| 19:44.20 | zeal | sure, add the new image, replace the old one. |
| 19:44.31 | zeal | rofl, that would go under a silly article :p |
| 19:44.35 | hokatichenci | You sap unsuspecting people as the fel reaver approaches |
| 19:44.53 | zeal | logically, Reaver sapping or something |
| 19:45.51 | hokatichenci | And then put a see also on the fel reaver page you think? |
| 19:46.40 | zeal | no need, simply link the first use of fel reaver in the text. |
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| 19:48.09 | Bagginsww | ok something I have to ask |
| 19:48.21 | Bagginsww | if Magtheridon is imprisoned why is he imprisoned with a weapon? |
| 19:48.26 | Creator | Guys, i need help... what are the codes for profession icons in wowwiki? |
| 19:49.27 | zeal | rofl Bagginsww, think they imprisoned him while he had it |
| 19:49.52 | Bagginsww | well I mean most prisoners have their weapons removed from them LOL |
| 19:50.41 | Tusva | I think they were lucky to get him imprisoned at all, much less armed |
| 19:50.53 | zeal | would you release him long enough to do it? ;) |
| 19:50.54 | Bagginsww | It seems about logical as imprisoning a shooter with his gun though lOL |
| 19:51.01 | zeal | indeed tusva :P |
| 19:51.09 | hokatichenci | Hmm, should I really crop the picture of Kazzak? Cropping the picture tightly cuts out of a lot of the throne (http://www.hoka.org/wowee/kazzak.jpg) |
| 19:51.10 | Tusva | Besides if he's all drained and held by the magical energy, he probably doesn't have the strength to use it |
| 19:51.18 | Bagginsww | so you couldn't just go up to him and grab it from him? |
| 19:51.21 | Tusva | (until the raid battle that is) |
| 19:51.23 | Bagginsww | while he's in "shackles" |
| 19:51.42 | zeal | i'd crop it tbh |
| 19:51.58 | zeal | can get better throne images for that use. |
| 19:51.59 | Tusva | Sure Baggins, you go down there and grab it, I'm sure he won't swing it at you :P |
| 19:52.20 | zeal | i don't think you could get it off him while hes trapped by spellwork |
| 19:52.27 | zeal | just my guess though |
| 19:52.27 | Bagginsww | if he can swing it, he'd have swung it at his jailers long before ,;) |
| 19:52.30 | Tusva | Besides its huge, you'd need a bunch of people to carry it off |
| 19:52.52 | zeal | i wanna know while no one has stolen manaroth's :P |
| 19:52.55 | Bagginsww | funny though how weapons that are huge can be shrink for players to use heh heh |
| 19:52.56 | zeal | *why no |
| 19:53.01 | Tusva | Magic! |
| 19:53.02 | Tusva | :P |
| 19:53.28 | Bagginsww | lol |
| 19:53.36 | Bagginsww | yes its all magic |
| 19:53.37 | Bagginsww | heh heh |
| 19:54.36 | zeal | fps bad : / |
| 19:54.48 | zeal | wtf.. never been like this before.. |
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| 19:57.35 | fdgfdsg | ffs |
| 19:57.42 | fdgfdsg | i hate this version fo ns |
| 20:00.28 | Zeal | only freenode and wow got disconnected :S |
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| 20:13.24 | Kirkburn | Zeal, lol |
| 20:13.51 | Creator | JEEZ chromaggus is a deserted server, at last, finished: http://www.wowwiki.com/Server:Chromaggus_Europe all by myself... |
| 20:20.42 | Kirkburn | It scares me that people add stuff like: "Illidan was born with golden eyes, which, unkown to him, indicated stronge druidic potential among night elf men." |
| 20:21.11 | Kirkburn | I mean, do they /wish/ to discredit us? |
| 20:21.21 | Zeal | hm.. i think i know whats up, i enabled HQ aa : / |
| 20:21.38 | Kirkburn | nub |
| 20:22.12 | Kirkburn | (to those wondering, golden eyes have nothing to do with druidism, they just indicated great potential in a night elf. And Illidan /knew/ that) |
| 20:22.14 | Zeal | ok, not HQ |
| 20:22.19 | Zeal | adaptive aa |
| 20:22.29 | Zeal | thats what was causing the graphics issues too i think |
| 20:22.35 | Kirkburn | nub nub |
| 20:22.44 | Zeal | wtf Kirkburn? |
| 20:23.03 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 20:23.05 | Zeal | you quoting someone for being wrong or you saying that? :s |
| 20:23.24 | Kirkburn | I quoted the first bit, the second bit was my correction |
| 20:23.56 | Kirkburn | Golden eyes can result from druidism, I guess, but you don't get born with them |
| 20:23.58 | Zeal | oh, i missed the first one |
| 20:24.14 | Zeal | you can be born with them, illidan was. |
| 20:24.24 | Kirkburn | I'm confusing the issue :P |
| 20:24.33 | Zeal | indeed.. stop :P |
| 20:24.44 | Kirkburn | I meant druids don't get born with them :) |
| 20:25.04 | Kirkburn | Though they /could/ .... Heh |
| 20:25.22 | Kirkburn | Well anyway, the original statement was completely false |
| 20:26.35 | Zeal | either you get born with them or you don't nothing to do with druidic magic itself, only signifies potential for greatest. druidic magic however can eventually turn your eyes golden when you become that great a druid. |
| 20:26.39 | Zeal | something like that.. |
| 20:26.48 | Kirkburn | VVbot is sorting the loot templates again |
| 20:26.57 | Kirkburn | Yeah |
| 20:27.01 | Zeal | cool |
| 20:27.24 | Zeal | oh, i must cook noodles tonight, just remembed |
| 20:31.12 | Kirkburn | pizza for me :) |
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| 20:43.28 | Zeal | hm.. who here has played a belf in live so far? |
| 20:44.10 | Adys | i have |
| 20:44.13 | Adys | till lvl 5 :P |
| 20:44.37 | Zeal | hm.. you know the gates with the rangers infront, the oens where the dead scar goes through? |
| 20:44.55 | Adys | nope aint even been past the first inn |
| 20:45.04 | Adys | soz |
| 20:45.07 | Zeal | pfft, thats jsut round the corner :P |
| 20:45.08 | Zeal | lol kk |
| 20:45.55 | Zeal | oh well, the area past the gates, aka the ruined ruins of silvermoon, weren't blocked off when i played in beta. they are now |
| 20:46.03 | Zeal | but you can very easily still get inside |
| 20:46.24 | Zeal | not that there is really anything there worth looking at. jsut rubble, soem meat wagons, about it. |
| 20:47.01 | Kirkburn | omg problem problem |
| 20:47.14 | Kirkburn | And back |
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| 20:47.23 | Kirkburn | I do love the wiki's spazz moments |
| 20:47.38 | Zeal | rofl |
| 20:48.20 | Adys | why did they block it? |
| 20:48.25 | Zeal | 4x14 slots @ lvl 5. gotta love friends :) |
| 20:48.41 | Adys | pfft nub, my lvl 1 mule has more >< |
| 20:48.49 | Zeal | because theres no content there really. guess they couldn't see a point in allowing acess. |
| 20:48.56 | Adys | erm |
| 20:49.06 | Adys | the barrens are more empty than the ruins of silvermoon, whats the point ^^ |
| 20:49.12 | Zeal | rofl |
| 20:50.07 | Zeal | also it shows that the dead scar ends on the other end, just stops dead against a wall, yet we know it continued on to the sunwell platue (or however it's spelt) which isn't in game yet :P |
| 20:50.22 | Adys | plateau |
| 20:50.53 | Adys | and indeed |
| 20:51.04 | Adys | makes more sense if it continues to sunwell plateau to block it |
| 20:51.29 | Adys | taking bets on when its released. First bid starts on 2.1.0 |
| 20:51.57 | Zeal | 2.3 |
| 20:52.04 | Zeal | black template 2.2 |
| 20:52.25 | Zeal | 2.1 will be some major change to soemthing that's gone wrong :P |
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| 21:02.06 | Zeal | gg Tekkub :p |
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| 21:19.57 | Zeal | O_o |
| 21:20.38 | Zeal | actually, 2.3 for ZA, 2.4 for the sunwell :P |
| 21:23.59 | Kirkburn | Here's a little thing to pass the time: http://www.starterupsteve.com/flash/html/love.shtml |
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| 21:27.10 | dotted | any lore dudes on tonight? |
| 21:29.35 | dotted | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Deathwing#Baron_Sablemane_aka._Deathwing.3F <- ! |
| 21:29.48 | Kirkburn | hulloo |
| 21:30.21 | dotted | Kirkburn knows |
| 21:30.34 | Kirkburn | I did not think of that ... |
| 21:31.12 | dotted | but its plausible |
| 21:32.16 | Kirkburn | It is indeed |
| 21:35.11 | Zeal | dammit, wheres this quest i'm looking for : / |
| 21:36.09 | dotted | in the quest showdown he says |
| 21:36.10 | dotted | You fought surprisingly well for a <race>, and it was an honor to have you at my side. My transformation must have been quite a surprise for you. I trust it was not too startling? |
| 21:36.10 | dotted | Let us keep my true identity between the two of us for now, shall we? In return, and for your adept service, I grant you your choice of any of these baubles. |
| 21:36.18 | Fin | I know a good website you could check, they have pretty good information about quests |
| 21:36.44 | Kirkburn | He must surely turn into a black dragon, then |
| 21:37.27 | dotted | on allakhazam |
| 21:37.30 | dotted | "Sabelemane reveals his true self (Father of all the dead dragons at Dragons End)" |
| 21:37.42 | dotted | which is ad cicle of blood |
| 21:38.06 | Zeal | ad cicle of blood? |
| 21:38.07 | Kirkburn | "Half way through, Sabelemane reveals his true self (Father of all the dead dragons at Dragons End)" |
| 21:38.10 | Kirkburn | Dammit |
| 21:38.24 | Zeal | er.. huh? |
| 21:38.26 | Kirkburn | The Circle of Blood :P |
| 21:38.43 | Zeal | so what is transformation into? |
| 21:38.44 | Kirkburn | He's just outside the Blade's Edge Mountains arena |
| 21:38.54 | Kirkburn | A black dragon |
| 21:39.21 | Kirkburn | There's black dragons all over Blade's Edge, and some alive ones too |
| 21:39.40 | Zeal | well i know that.. |
| 21:40.19 | dotted | note to self, must do that quest asap |
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| 21:43.59 | Zeal | so where is that about revealing, alla yeah? |
| 21:46.22 | Zeal | ok, that full sentence didn't make much sense :s |
| 21:46.27 | Zeal | so i'll hold judgement. |
| 21:47.00 | Zeal | but that would be cool |
| 21:49.16 | Kirkburn | The quest text is from Wowhead, the guy saying he reveals himself as father of the dragons is an alla comment |
| 21:49.51 | Kirkburn | I'm guessing not actually Deathwing though, since the commenter didn't mention it ;) |
| 21:50.42 | Kirkburn | My guess is another son of Deathwing? |
| 21:52.32 | Kirkburn | Sable means black (in heraldry) for those who don't know |
| 21:53.05 | Zeal | the rest of what that guy said seemed questionable to me, so i'm not inclined to trust the accuracy of his comment. |
| 21:53.13 | Zeal | indeed |
| 21:53.29 | Zeal | i still think it's possible it's deathwing |
| 21:54.01 | Zeal | what i find interesting, is the netherflight are his children he left. the new black dragons we don't know much about afaik |
| 21:54.32 | Zeal | so one could presume they are the flight he escaped with after DotD and fled to Outland. |
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| 22:02.00 | Zeal | god i hate idiots like this.. Going after a boss, i whipser the guy to say we should group to both get the kill, completely ignores me, try to invite twice, declines, get to the boss, he pulls him straight away (with his two guards). naturally, hes crap, so the boss and one guard kill him while i hapily take on one guard, then come for me straight away, and he tells me to wait for him -_- naturally, i kill both the boss and gu |
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| 23:11.58 | Zeal | yay, think my server has died : / |
| 23:12.13 | Zeal | npc didn't have a ?, then he had it but is not talking.. |
| 23:13.09 | Zeal | it's jsut server lag i guess :/ |
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| 23:23.14 | groll | howdy ppl |
| 23:25.05 | voidvector | this channel is mostly dead like this |
| 23:25.39 | tingle | can someone help me get my steps straight, i want to build a WoW leveling guid addon and have no clue where to start... |
| 23:25.58 | Zeal | 620ms ping, gg blizz, sort the server out : / |
| 23:26.15 | Zeal | leveling guide addon? :s |
| 23:26.22 | Zeal | lo voidvector |
| 23:26.30 | tingle | yea i started one |
| 23:26.47 | tingle | it went up ot level 10 by the dwarfs |
| 23:27.04 | tingle | but that was hardcore codeing and was to long |
| 23:27.16 | Zeal | i really don't understand what you mean |
| 23:27.33 | tingle | do you know abit how to make addons and stuff |
| 23:30.06 | Fin | aw |
| 23:30.11 | Fin | missed tingle |
| 23:30.12 | Adys | Fin! |
| 23:30.18 | Adys | its you I missed |
| 23:30.32 | Fin | ma Frenchella! |
| 23:30.35 | Adys | <3 |
| 23:32.17 | Fin | and I started levelling a character yesterday! Blood Elf priest, but I might choose something else soon |
| 23:32.27 | Adys | Ohh really? |
| 23:32.32 | Fin | I just wanted something easy to start playing again with :) |
| 23:32.33 | Adys | I started levelling a blood elf priest today aswell |
| 23:32.52 | Adys | On stormrage btw ? Or did you go daggerspine |
| 23:33.10 | Fin | well, I've got Phin, so I guess I should choose a class I haven't played before... |
| 23:33.14 | Fin | stormrage |
| 23:33.24 | Fin | everyone's fucked off from DS, bloody pansies |
| 23:33.26 | Adys | I love healing priests tbh |
| 23:33.28 | Adys | haha |
| 23:33.30 | Fin | me too |
| 23:33.40 | Fin | but I remember enjoying levelling as a shadow priest |
| 23:33.43 | Adys | oh gotta run for a sec getting something to eat |
| 23:33.50 | Fin | righto mate |
| 23:33.50 | Adys | Ill be back in 5 mins :) |
| 23:35.01 | Zeal | heh |
| 23:35.08 | Zeal | my first important ding, 10 :) |
| 23:39.38 | Fin | congratulastionsorsZ!*(%!&*^(% |
| 23:39.57 | Adys | Im back :) |
| 23:40.02 | Adys | and grats zeal |
| 23:40.17 | Zeal | rofl ty :P |
| 23:40.45 | Adys | infobot, congratulate Zeal |
| 23:40.58 | infobot | ACTION congratulates Zeal on being a new owner of a $500 brick. |
| 23:41.04 | Adys | ... |
| 23:41.17 | Adys | infobot, nevermind |
| 23:41.40 | Adys | infobot, zeal is now level 10! |
| 23:41.41 | infobot | Adys: okay |
| 23:41.45 | Zeal | lol |
| 23:41.58 | Adys | infobot, zeal? |
| 23:41.59 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, zeal is now level 10! |
| 23:42.06 | Adys | see it works |
| 23:42.56 | Fin | and infobot no doubt loves you too, Adys |
| 23:43.07 | Adys | Are you jealous Fin?! |
| 23:43.18 | Adys | infobot, give this poor Fin a cookie. |
| 23:43.19 | infobot | ACTION gives poor Fin a cookie. to this |
| 23:43.28 | Fin | infobot, botsnack |
| 23:43.28 | infobot | aw, gee, Fin |
| 23:43.39 | Fin | infobot, wake up |
| 23:43.40 | infobot | ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on up and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!" |
| 23:43.43 | Fin | botsnack |
| 23:44.30 | Adys | infobot, do you love fin aswell? |
| 23:44.32 | infobot | yes, I love fin aswell. |
| 23:44.55 | Fin | Adys is aka The Darkened Gold that wisps through the night alleys, spreading goodness around to the poor and needy |
| 23:45.00 | Fin | infobot, Adys? |
| 23:45.02 | infobot | from memory, adys is just french |
| 23:45.06 | Adys | owned |
| 23:45.08 | Fin | Adys is also aka The Darkened Gold that wisps through the night alleys, spreading goodness around to the poor and needy |
| 23:45.14 | Fin | infobot, Adys? |
| 23:45.17 | infobot | somebody said adys was just french |
| 23:45.22 | Fin | infobot, Adys is also aka The Darkened Gold that wisps through the night alleys, spreading goodness around to the poor and needy |
| 23:45.24 | infobot | okay, Fin |
| 23:45.25 | Fin | hmm |
| 23:45.44 | Fin | I guess waking up doesn't also assign "also"s |
| 23:46.06 | Adys | infobot, do you really think what Fin just said? |
| 23:46.07 | infobot | yes, I really think what Fin just said. |
| 23:46.13 | Fin | infobot, Adys |
| 23:46.14 | infobot | rumour has it, adys is just french, or aka The Darkened Gold that wisps through the night alleys, spreading goodness around to the poor and needy |
| 23:46.31 | Fin | La Frenchella, the mystery of Paris |
| 23:46.49 | Adys | infobot, do you answer yes to every single question anyone could ever ask? |
| 23:46.51 | infobot | yes, I answer yes to every single question anyone could ever ask. |
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| 23:47.04 | Adys | infobot, do I look like an idiot? |
| 23:47.05 | infobot | ACTION does I look like an idiot. |
| 23:47.15 | Adys | what the f... |
| 23:47.18 | Fin | what you need, Adys, is my custom perl bot that's superultraeasy to add new and exciting commands to |
| 23:47.28 | Adys | No, I dont |
| 23:47.31 | Adys | though! |
| 23:47.34 | Fin | I was thinking of doing one that queries Thottbot and WoWWiki and stuff |
| 23:47.41 | Adys | I was thinking about a new and exciting addon! |
| 23:47.52 | Adys | for wow :) |
| 23:47.59 | Fin | so you could ask the bot for details in IRC instead of using browsers |
| 23:48.07 | Fin | there's already one I think :) |
| 23:48.08 | Fin | at least there was |
| 23:48.11 | Adys | No |
| 23:48.19 | Adys | Not of the one I am thinking about |
| 23:48.20 | Fin | Panda, I think it was called, an infobot-alike for WoW |
| 23:48.28 | Adys | Yes, but not really that |
| 23:48.35 | Adys | let me explain you in pms |
| 23:48.53 | Adys | s/stealed/stolen/ |
| 23:49.36 | Fin | righto :) |
| 23:55.45 | Kirkburn | voidvector, see, it's not always dead ^^ |
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| 23:59.12 | Fin | death is a state of mind! |
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