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| 00:39.04 | Kirkburn | foxlit, well, that can be described in the article |
| 00:40.45 | Kirkburn | So quiet |
| 00:41.05 | Kirkburn | Is everyone just holding their breath for the 16th? :) |
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| 00:54.08 | Kirkburn | Seriously, just how is it we're still making hundreds more pages for the wiki? =) |
| 00:55.16 | sancus | damn right we're not prepared, I haven't farmed the 100 billion dreamfoil we'll need to kill illidan |
| 00:56.14 | Kirkburn | Who changed the create (edit) new page template?? |
| 01:00.03 | Kirkburn | Ooh, Fandy did it, it's very nice |
| 01:03.01 | Kirkburn | And now I've added to it :P |
| 01:05.34 | Kirkburn | Would you like to browse our new chickens category? Or perhaps you would like to know the various species of frog available to you? Now you can with the wonderful new categories, credits to Beep2, Createur de Content! :) |
| 01:05.51 | Adys | haha |
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| 01:52.40 | Kirkburn | Oh yeah, quick thought: |
| 01:52.49 | Kirkburn | Too many templates spoils the broth |
| 01:53.16 | Kirkburn | If we have too many, they fall into disuse and become pointless :) |
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| 02:02.29 | Kirkburn | Added 2.0.4 patch notes to the wiki |
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| 02:58.03 | Kirkburn | Btw: Slouken: "FYI, the fixes previously listed for 2.0.5 are now happening in 2.0.6. An emergency 2.0.5 patch is being created to address a hardware issue." |
| 02:58.19 | Kirkburn | 2.0.4 is out, 2.0.5 is incoming, 2.0.6 is confirmed to come "soon" |
| 03:48.02 | Kirkburn | Omg, I just found my 'I'm new here' post :) |
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| 04:01.21 | Kirkburn | Lo Hobinheim |
| 04:01.26 | Kirkburn | No-one is talking to me :( |
| 04:07.47 | Kirkburn | Lol, I just found something |
| 04:08.54 | Kirkburn | In June I capitalised some race names on the [[Horde]] page. I then decapitalised them in August during my "argh, race names" period :P I probably never realised it was my own fault |
| 04:08.55 | Hobinheim | hey kirk |
| 04:09.22 | Kirkburn | yoyo |
| 04:10.39 | Hobinheim | i was thinking of making a mod that's like an in-game encyclopeida |
| 04:10.44 | Hobinheim | basically a data gathering mod with a UI |
| 04:10.59 | Kirkburn | Problem: massive UI usage :/ |
| 04:11.00 | Hobinheim | i guess meta map sorta already does this? sorta? |
| 04:11.11 | Hobinheim | i just never know what its options mean |
| 04:11.30 | Kirkburn | I would love an in-game encyclopaedia, but it would probably stress it too much |
| 04:11.35 | Hobinheim | i'm slowly developing this fear of playing.... |
| 04:11.49 | Hobinheim | like i want mods that don't exist. and i have like ten thousand alts..., |
| 04:11.51 | Kirkburn | Yeah, metamap can remember NPCs positions etc (iirc) |
| 04:12.55 | Hobinheim | i love how the GMs can take the form of any avatar and just go buck wild |
| 04:13.00 | Hobinheim | so i've read |
| 04:14.03 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 04:14.08 | Kirkburn | Yup, they can |
| 04:14.24 | Hobinheim | i've read this story about a gm romancing this dude's girlfriend as a goblin |
| 04:14.35 | Hobinheim | he's like... the world isn't ready for our kind of love |
| 04:14.42 | Hobinheim | and then gave her a restored weapon in gift wrap |
| 04:15.06 | Kirkburn | heh, nice |
| 04:15.11 | Hobinheim | i would love to just like.. be an npc |
| 04:15.22 | Hobinheim | i have this thing for game mechanics and npcs |
| 04:15.28 | Hobinheim | i would mind control everything if i could |
| 04:18.58 | Kirkburn | =) |
| 04:19.50 | Kirkburn | 7,730 edits, I have |
| 04:20.09 | Kirkburn | It's just not enough! |
| 04:20.31 | Hobinheim | i haven't edited wikipedia in a long time... |
| 04:20.39 | Hobinheim | all their policies and crap piss me off |
| 04:20.46 | Hobinheim | i like how we're sort of low barrier/to the ground |
| 04:20.53 | Kirkburn | :) good |
| 04:21.03 | Hobinheim | and the attitude some people have is like what the christ |
| 04:21.08 | Hobinheim | on wp i mean |
| 04:21.12 | Hobinheim | ww is all cool peeps |
| 04:21.30 | Kirkburn | Ain't we just :D |
| 04:23.35 | Kirkburn | You know what I think is silly |
| 04:23.54 | Kirkburn | WoWWiki isn't notable enough, but "Dalaran" is? |
| 04:24.08 | Hobinheim | i think all warcraft locations should be deleted |
| 04:24.11 | Hobinheim | i don't know what they're smoking |
| 04:24.20 | Hobinheim | btw do you know of any mobs that cast a magical debuff |
| 04:24.24 | Hobinheim | something low level perhaps... |
| 04:24.31 | Kirkburn | Not off the top of my head |
| 04:24.37 | Hobinheim | wikipedia is a bunch of crap sometimes |
| 04:24.44 | Hobinheim | like the entire pokemon thing is absolutely what the chriost |
| 04:24.47 | Hobinheim | *christ |
| 04:24.58 | Kirkburn | How so? |
| 04:25.01 | Hobinheim | accepting an entire enumerated series is just like... why |
| 04:25.12 | Hobinheim | do you really need articles about pokemon that aren't pikachu? |
| 04:25.14 | Hobinheim | seriously? |
| 04:25.40 | Kirkburn | Wow, they've got those? |
| 04:26.12 | Kirkburn | Oh you have GOT to be joking |
| 04:26.16 | Hobinheim | every single pokemon has an article on wikipedia |
| 04:26.18 | Hobinheim | i shit you not |
| 04:26.26 | Kirkburn | I see it |
| 04:26.28 | Hobinheim | it's some sort of joking clause about what articles deserve to be on wikipedia |
| 04:26.31 | Hobinheim | the pokemon clause or something |
| 04:26.32 | Kirkburn | Jesu Christe |
| 04:27.01 | Kirkburn | Pokemon |
| 04:27.06 | Kirkburn | oops, wrong window |
| 04:27.29 | Hobinheim | i dunno i don't think wowwiki is that notable |
| 04:27.36 | Hobinheim | i mean in the grand scope of things |
| 04:27.42 | Hobinheim | like who has mentioned wowwiki? |
| 04:27.58 | Kirkburn | I know, we don't have great a great driver :P |
| 04:28.05 | Kirkburn | *one great is enough |
| 04:28.13 | Kirkburn | Argh |
| 04:28.23 | Kirkburn | * add PR and change driver to drive |
| 04:28.39 | Kirkburn | "I know, we don't have a great PR drive :P" |
| 04:28.56 | Kirkburn | Like, er, we have absolutely none whatsoever ... |
| 04:29.18 | Kirkburn | Meh, I'm okay with the article not being on wikipedia, it's linked at the bottom of nearly every article anyway |
| 04:29.35 | Kirkburn | But I do take exception to every bloody pokemon char being on there |
| 04:29.46 | Hobinheim | yeah i'm trying to find the thing about it |
| 04:30.16 | Hobinheim | WP:PTEST |
| 04:30.22 | Hobinheim | sorry can't link to it, i'm remote desktoping |
| 04:31.04 | Kirkburn | np |
| 04:31.14 | Kirkburn | I can't use the link, I'm browsing on another PC anyway ;) |
| 04:32.05 | Kirkburn | LOL |
| 04:32.19 | Kirkburn | There was a vote over whether to keep the page "593" |
| 04:32.32 | Kirkburn | Is 593 notable enough? |
| 04:32.32 | Hobinheim | crazy. |
| 04:32.41 | Hobinheim | i mean i like how we're sort of scoped. warcraft |
| 04:32.54 | Hobinheim | dude did you see the flatulance article on wowwiki? |
| 04:33.00 | Kirkburn | er, no? |
| 04:33.06 | Hobinheim | i told the guy within 24 hours if you can't prove to me that your thing is reltaed to warcraft, i'm nuking it |
| 04:33.45 | Kirkburn | When were? |
| 04:33.49 | Kirkburn | *where |
| 04:33.52 | Hobinheim | "brodie mullen" |
| 04:34.23 | Hobinheim | created by user ""~" |
| 04:34.38 | Kirkburn | When? |
| 04:35.02 | Kirkburn | ooh |
| 04:35.12 | Hobinheim | today at six am |
| 04:35.22 | Hobinheim | sorry that's just one tilde |
| 04:35.23 | Hobinheim | "~" |
| 04:35.54 | Hobinheim | whatever. i've given him like 18 hours |
| 04:35.58 | Hobinheim | i'm tagging them for nuke |
| 04:36.03 | Kirkburn | Sure thing |
| 04:36.41 | Kirkburn | He just copied a page and changed the first 3 words |
| 04:36.59 | Kirkburn | And random other crap |
| 04:37.42 | Kirkburn | Yup, he copied the 'Abomination' page |
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| 05:13.02 | Kirkburn | The wikipedia WC project seems to have ... uh ... dies |
| 05:13.04 | Kirkburn | *died |
| 05:13.45 | Kirkburn | I think the original person behind it, Havok, has moved away from WoW |
| 05:15.47 | Hobinheim | yeah |
| 05:15.57 | Hobinheim | i've thought about like contributing to it more |
| 05:16.01 | Hobinheim | but like... i dunno. it' just more work |
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| 05:18.37 | Zeal | rofl @ timing.. |
| 05:18.38 | Zeal | < Sat 13/01/2007 > < 05:19:39 am > ± [strixus[strixus@MMO-E6F1C124.asm.bellsouth.net]] Joined [#wowradio] |
| 05:18.38 | Zeal | < Sat 13/01/2007 > < 05:19:39 am > ± [WoW-Radio] Set Mode [+h strixus] |
| 05:18.38 | Zeal | < Sat 13/01/2007 > < 05:19:40 am > ± [zeal] Known As [Zeal] |
| 05:19.10 | Kirkburn | \o/ |
| 05:19.25 | Kirkburn | Hey, your clock is faster than mine |
| 05:19.44 | Zeal | meh |
| 05:19.45 | Zeal | lol |
| 05:19.59 | Zeal | you're up late/early? |
| 05:20.03 | Kirkburn | Late |
| 05:20.33 | Kirkburn | This the first time she's been on since 'that day'? |
| 05:21.41 | Zeal | nah she was on last night too |
| 05:21.43 | Zeal | but didn't notice |
| 05:22.50 | Kirkburn | Do you still have a link to that article I responded on? |
| 05:22.55 | Kirkburn | Rexxar I think? |
| 05:23.05 | Zeal | yeah just sent |
| 05:23.11 | Kirkburn | ta |
| 05:26.12 | Kirkburn | This is weird ... every so often I hear a very very quiet 'chiming' noise. I feel like I must be mad, it's soo quie |
| 05:26.14 | Kirkburn | t |
| 05:26.55 | Zeal | O_o |
| 05:27.00 | Zeal | got wind chimes? lol |
| 05:28.14 | Kirkburn | Feels like it |
| 05:28.20 | Kirkburn | She responded? |
| 05:28.36 | Zeal | nope |
| 05:39.26 | Zeal | "(Ethereal moved to Ethereals: Ethereal is the name of a guild.)" rofl.. that's rather stupidly amusing. |
| 05:39.54 | Kirkburn | heh, I noticed that too |
| 05:40.09 | Zeal | Guild: ftw >_> |
| 05:40.16 | Kirkburn | I shall name my guild .... "Main Page"! |
| 05:40.22 | Zeal | haha |
| 05:41.02 | Zeal | btw, did you think of something better than "fan speculation"? :P |
| 05:45.20 | Kirkburn | Well just losing the word 'fan' |
| 05:45.33 | Kirkburn | We're all fans :P |
| 05:47.19 | Zeal | you missed what i said last night then? |
| 05:47.59 | Kirkburn | It seems so? |
| 05:48.13 | Zeal | "there is a difference between fan speculation and in-universe speculation. if you can think of soemthing better to say isntead of fan, sure. but making the difference clear is needed." |
| 05:53.47 | Kirkburn | I did miss that :) |
| 05:53.58 | Kirkburn | I still don't quite get it though |
| 05:54.26 | Kirkburn | I _think_ I see what you're saying, but the former is more akin to fan fiction than 'speculation' |
| 05:55.07 | Kirkburn | Speculation to me is already based in-universe |
| 05:55.37 | Zeal | in-universe (ie official stuff in lore, like much of Brann's stuff) speculation does not belong under speculation. Speculation from fans on the lore, does. |
| 05:55.52 | Kirkburn | Ah, now I understand |
| 05:56.10 | Kirkburn | Okay, fair enough |
| 05:56.15 | Zeal | kk :p |
| 06:03.18 | Kirkburn | Purple! |
| 06:04.45 | Kirkburn | Almost pink! |
| 06:05.02 | Zeal | huh? |
| 06:05.24 | Kirkburn | It is relevant to you ... |
| 06:05.32 | Zeal | my sig? heh |
| 06:06.03 | Zeal | i do need to make it purple, heh. |
| 06:06.22 | Kirkburn | How've you got it to insert your sig as a template? |
| 06:06.41 | Kirkburn | um |
| 06:06.43 | Kirkburn | nvm me |
| 06:06.57 | Zeal | lol |
| 06:07.41 | Kirkburn | Broxxigar? |
| 06:07.45 | Kirkburn | Where's he xx? |
| 06:08.21 | Zeal | i dunno originally, but his ring more recently |
| 06:08.58 | Zeal | War of the ancients is 1 x, but i distinctively knew there was a xx somewhere in lore. and now, in BC, it's xx |
| 06:09.02 | Kirkburn | If it's just the ring, I think it would be premature to move it |
| 06:09.44 | Kirkburn | Plus that's a beta item |
| 06:09.49 | Zeal | just the article lacks any mention of the spelling difference, so i dunno where the original spelling is from : / |
| 06:09.58 | Kirkburn | WotA, surely |
| 06:10.13 | Zeal | you'd think |
| 06:10.23 | Kirkburn | It is |
| 06:10.29 | Zeal | i don't even recall where broxigar the red is from. |
| 06:10.46 | Kirkburn | "the Red" part? |
| 06:10.49 | Zeal | in WotA it's broxigar, so it's not WotA : / |
| 06:10.51 | Zeal | yeah |
| 06:11.01 | Kirkburn | I'm confused now |
| 06:11.17 | Zeal | indeed |
| 06:11.22 | Kirkburn | He was introduced as Broxigar in WotA. The only place he's XX is on a beta item in BC? |
| 06:11.43 | Zeal | yes. but somehow, before BC beta, i knew it was XX |
| 06:11.49 | Zeal | there has to be another source.. |
| 06:12.06 | Kirkburn | Unless he's in an RPG guide, there can't be one |
| 06:12.14 | Zeal | thats what i'm thinking |
| 06:12.40 | Zeal | i jsut know i saw it as xx, and before had i always was writing as that. |
| 06:12.45 | Zeal | *hand |
| 06:12.45 | Kirkburn | =) |
| 06:13.06 | Zeal | i'm wondring if it is surfang |
| 06:15.48 | Kirkburn | Yay for silly comments on wikipedia |
| 06:16.20 | Kirkburn | Look up Brox on wp |
| 06:16.46 | Kirkburn | 3rd paragraph, I'm a little confused by the bit in brackets |
| 06:20.57 | Zeal | er.. i need a link |
| 06:20.59 | Zeal | can't find him |
| 06:21.03 | Zeal | on WotA stuff |
| 06:21.34 | Zeal | nvm.. |
| 06:22.09 | Kirkburn | Yeah I meant the list of wc chars article |
| 06:22.18 | Zeal | how long it took to find bit? :s |
| 06:22.28 | Kirkburn | Yeah |
| 06:22.33 | Kirkburn | That's just odd |
| 06:22.41 | Zeal | the fact that he even went looking for them is speculation anyways |
| 06:22.42 | Kirkburn | Why on earth would he find it quickly? |
| 06:23.24 | Kirkburn | Wikipedia is references even worse than us for that article |
| 06:23.29 | Kirkburn | *referenced |
| 06:24.02 | Zeal | RotA puts a dent in that timeline theory btw |
| 06:24.09 | Zeal | i'm extremely pissed off by it. |
| 06:24.24 | Zeal | Mannaroth still didn't recognize them |
| 06:24.27 | Zeal | when he should have |
| 06:24.33 | Kirkburn | Oi, don't give it away |
| 06:24.35 | Kirkburn | =) |
| 06:25.15 | Zeal | honestly though, i put it down to Metzen being a twat again, and thus never told Golden she needed to account for the timeline change. |
| 06:25.17 | Zeal | lol |
| 06:25.38 | Zeal | but i can only put that as a speculation now.. |
| 06:25.52 | Zeal | which means all that stuff i removed, is rightly valid.. |
| 06:25.54 | Zeal | >_< |
| 06:28.43 | Zeal | god damn stupid wiki markup |
| 06:28.49 | Zeal | <nowiki> can overlap.. |
| 06:28.58 | Zeal | meaning i can't include <nowiki>'s in a template |
| 06:29.16 | Zeal | it should follow xml standard and not allow the overlap, allowing me to include them.. |
| 06:30.21 | Kirkburn | wha? |
| 06:30.23 | Kirkburn | Overlap? |
| 06:31.56 | Zeal | if i no <nowiki><nowiki></nowiki></nowiki> the first <nowiki> will work, the second will show correctly, but the first </nowiki> will close, instead of ignoring it and closing on the second one. |
| 06:32.13 | Zeal | *i do |
| 06:33.17 | Zeal | i'd image its the same will all their markup.. sigh |
| 06:35.08 | Kirkburn | :/ |
| 06:42.39 | Zeal | sigh.. |
| 06:42.47 | Zeal | look like i have to just copy and past then.. |
| 06:42.54 | Zeal | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Zeal/Sandbox/Templates/template |
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| 06:47.24 | XaJIaKoCT | hi all :) |
| 06:47.31 | Kirkburn | hullo |
| 06:48.37 | Zeal | lo |
| 06:49.23 | XaJIaKoCT | someone from Jaedenar ?: ) |
| 06:50.35 | Kirkburn | No idea :P |
| 06:50.58 | Kirkburn | I'm pretty sure I'm not .. |
| 06:53.12 | Kirkburn | Zeal, I'm not really okay with the idea of putting 'author' on templates |
| 06:53.48 | Zeal | I am, it's so you can quickly see who made it, and they can likely solve and issues you might have, quicker than on the talk page. |
| 06:53.55 | Zeal | *any |
| 06:53.57 | Kirkburn | hmm |
| 06:54.47 | Kirkburn | But for example the quality one you just edited - you reformatted it, you didn't make it =) |
| 06:54.48 | Zeal | i'm fairly sure i'm the only one who knows whats going on in {{contentbox}} and {{tooltip}} and would be able to solve them quickly if some asked me rather than on the talk page ;) |
| 06:55.00 | Zeal | quality one? i did make it :s |
| 06:55.10 | Kirkburn | oh yeah |
| 06:55.16 | Kirkburn | dammit! |
| 06:55.40 | Zeal | :p |
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| 06:55.55 | Kirkburn | Ze french, zey are invading! |
| 06:56.06 | Zeal | btw, strixus is on an off, think her net is broke or something, constantly on and thne quitting :s |
| 06:56.11 | Adys | ze warlock wiz ze felguard |
| 06:56.14 | Zeal | so, probably never saw it. |
| 06:56.17 | Zeal | lol, lo Adys |
| 06:56.24 | Adys | heya |
| 07:03.25 | Zeal | hm.. |
| 07:03.59 | Zeal | Cooldown, and Cast time on items is not default stuff in a template is it? what about Charges though? : / |
| 07:04.41 | Zeal | nvm, sorted |
| 07:07.07 | Zeal | blame thottbot for that one |
| 07:07.48 | Zeal | it was using a none default way of displaying charges, and was putting cooldown and cast time before default stuff like comment and charges. |
| 07:07.54 | Zeal | *non-default |
| 07:08.24 | Adys | "There are going to be tons of new items in your future and soon enough you'll be saying 'Tidal Charm Schmidal Charm', or maybe something less stupid sounding." (Drysc) |
| 07:08.52 | Zeal | lol |
| 07:08.54 | Adys | i really need to find a better look for this thing |
| 07:14.11 | Kirkburn|afk | -ish |
| 07:17.56 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Adys |
| 07:18.07 | Adys | new style for the quotes |
| 07:19.20 | Zeal | oh adys.. i see this is relevant your interests.. |
| 07:19.30 | Adys | mm? |
| 07:19.44 | Zeal | http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Effect2 |
| 07:20.17 | Zeal | essentially the same, just dropped the table code |
| 07:20.25 | Adys | yea dont see any problem |
| 07:20.35 | Adys | just to warn you though |
| 07:20.46 | Adys | if you intend to change completly and totally the item pages |
| 07:21.03 | Zeal | it's alot of work? |
| 07:21.04 | Zeal | lol |
| 07:21.05 | Adys | its not going to be easy to implement, how good the proposal is doesnt matter |
| 07:21.33 | Zeal | my templates are ready to except the item namespace, but can work without. |
| 07:22.59 | Adys | the thing is its by doing small changes here and then that you get to a final majorly accepted work |
| 07:23.21 | Zeal | erm.. ok |
| 07:23.30 | Zeal | really dunno where you're going with this :p |
| 07:23.35 | Adys | changing totally the item template from the start to the end, getting everything sorted differently etc will most likely not be accepted |
| 07:23.42 | Zeal | atm all i'm chaning is the tooltips |
| 07:23.47 | Adys | even if its good, its constatation |
| 07:24.04 | Zeal | *changing |
| 07:24.25 | Zeal | i have proposals in the works for all articles to change. nothing really specific to item. |
| 07:24.57 | Adys | one thing at a time |
| 07:25.10 | Zeal | one page at a time.. |
| 07:25.12 | Adys | and I need to finish the fucking icons :( 94% now |
| 07:25.32 | Zeal | going slower isn't gunna help the wiki. it stilll needs to be done. |
| 07:25.51 | Adys | thats my point |
| 07:26.01 | Adys | going fast is needed to be able to do bot-assisted work |
| 07:26.17 | Adys | and if you want to go fast the major need is to do small changes |
| 07:26.17 | Zeal | huh? |
| 07:26.30 | Zeal | disagree |
| 07:26.41 | Zeal | atm, going slow and small changes is just increasing the work. |
| 07:26.48 | Adys | Yes but you can bot it |
| 07:26.56 | Zeal | and most of this stuff can't be automated. |
| 07:27.04 | Zeal | lol |
| 07:27.07 | Adys | wanna bet? :p |
| 07:27.52 | Adys | doesnt matter zeal :) keep working, just be warned |
| 07:28.00 | Adys | major changes rarely get accepted |
| 07:29.04 | Adys | anyone has any idea of which item could use the icon http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:INV_Sword_52.png ? |
| 07:29.31 | Adys | in my list its INV_SWORD_52.blp instead of INV_Sword_52.blp |
| 07:30.03 | Zeal | isn't that used by soem ZG sword? :s |
| 07:30.11 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/Bloodlord%27s_Defender |
| 07:30.21 | Adys | its using 54 |
| 07:30.25 | Adys | lemmeh check |
| 07:30.27 | Zeal | bingo |
| 07:30.32 | Zeal | hm.. |
| 07:30.38 | Adys | http://wow.allakhazam.com/images/icons/INV_Sword_54.png |
| 07:30.39 | Zeal | 52 looks the same but better quality :s |
| 07:30.42 | Adys | nope, 54 |
| 07:30.50 | Adys | http://wow.allakhazam.com/images/icons/INV_Sword_52.png |
| 07:30.51 | Adys | lol |
| 07:30.55 | Adys | seems tusva was just wrong |
| 07:31.28 | Zeal | positioning of the icon is slightly different too.. |
| 07:31.31 | Zeal | stupid blizz : / |
| 07:31.44 | Adys | no, its different ones definetly |
| 07:31.47 | Adys | they are just very similar |
| 07:31.52 | Adys | seen that a lot in spells too |
| 07:32.21 | Zeal | yeah, thats my point |
| 07:32.23 | Zeal | it's stupid |
| 07:32.39 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Spell_Shadow_ShadeTrueSight.png |
| 07:32.40 | Zeal | they're so similar they should have just used one. |
| 07:32.43 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Spell_Shadow_BlackPlague.png |
| 07:33.09 | Zeal | well that ones a bit better |
| 07:33.17 | Zeal | but still, should have just been one :p |
| 07:33.34 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Spell_Shadow_SoulGem.png / http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:INV_Misc_Orb_04.png |
| 07:33.46 | Zeal | i wish they did small changes like that for ranks of spells. |
| 07:33.58 | Adys | oh please god no |
| 07:34.01 | Adys | 3000 icons is enough rofl |
| 07:34.05 | Zeal | oh, size difference, woo lol |
| 07:34.07 | Zeal | haha |
| 07:34.15 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:INV_Misc_Orb_04.png |
| 07:34.17 | Adys | err |
| 07:34.22 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:WoW_Icons/Icon_List :) |
| 07:34.28 | Zeal | mhm |
| 07:34.31 | Adys | 2684 icons pre BC |
| 07:35.58 | Zeal | where are the icons stored? :s |
| 07:35.59 | KuinKala | hmm btw i have a question, am i blind or something because i cant see Wound Poison icon on macro window |
| 07:36.20 | Adys | KuinKala: not all icons are up on the macro window |
| 07:36.21 | Zeal | nvm, got it |
| 07:36.33 | KuinKala | Adys: k, seems that wound poison is not |
| 07:36.39 | KuinKala | have to use something else then |
| 07:36.43 | Adys | the thing is |
| 07:36.47 | Zeal | 3,467 icons |
| 07:37.01 | Adys | icon names begin by either Spell, INV, Trade or Ability |
| 07:37.03 | Zeal | possibly more because i haven't extracted since 2.0.3 |
| 07:37.26 | Zeal | or <weaponname> |
| 07:37.31 | Adys | zeal: I counted over 4000 during a beta version, but there were many duplicates by then |
| 07:37.44 | Adys | no zeal, the weaponnames begin by INV |
| 07:37.51 | Adys | INV_Sword_53 |
| 07:37.57 | Zeal | no offense, but that's impossible. i have the entire lot extracted |
| 07:38.11 | Adys | zeal: duplicates :) they deleted many since the patch |
| 07:38.14 | Zeal | and nope, some beging with Sword_ |
| 07:38.25 | Zeal | adys, they can't delete |
| 07:38.32 | Adys | i know lol |
| 07:38.36 | Zeal | they cna only replace with empty files. |
| 07:38.38 | Adys | but beetween patches they can |
| 07:38.42 | Adys | as long as they reform the MPQ |
| 07:38.48 | Zeal | which they don;t do.. |
| 07:38.55 | Adys | Common.mpq. |
| 07:38.55 | Zeal | as its a crap load of overhead for the user. |
| 07:39.05 | Adys | sec |
| 07:39.07 | Zeal | yeah, i have pre-common stuff extracted too. |
| 07:39.34 | Adys | check for archives of patch 2.0.0.6082 |
| 07:39.43 | Adys | no wait |
| 07:40.09 | Adys | wrong folder |
| 07:40.14 | Adys | 2.0.0.6965 |
| 07:40.18 | Adys | 5965* |
| 07:40.34 | Adys | its the last patch before common.mpq's creation |
| 07:40.35 | Zeal | 1.11,and every patch from F&F-2.0.2 i have extracted ;) |
| 07:40.38 | Adys | (last alpha patch) |
| 07:40.44 | Zeal | yuup |
| 07:40.47 | Zeal | have it |
| 07:41.10 | Adys | theres over 4000, but you need to extract from all patch.mpq, patch-2.mpq, interface.mpq and expansion.mpq |
| 07:41.19 | Adys | many are shite and unfinished too |
| 07:41.23 | Zeal | i know, done. |
| 07:41.33 | Zeal | still not 4000 : / |
| 07:41.56 | Adys | let me search my list |
| 07:42.05 | Zeal | if my blp converter didn't die on empty icons i'd convert.. meh. |
| 07:42.35 | Adys | zeal: my blp converter dies if I give it more than one file to convert ^^ |
| 07:42.43 | Adys | ill update it tho |
| 07:42.48 | Adys | and 4091 icons |
| 07:42.53 | Adys | thats what the list says |
| 07:43.12 | Adys | ill have a look and reextract later on |
| 07:43.17 | Adys | might well be wrong |
| 07:43.30 | Adys | anyways, winmpq FTL |
| 07:43.45 | Adys | its the only MPQ reader that lets me create lists in alphabetical order |
| 07:43.53 | Adys | and it dies on common.mpq :( |
| 07:44.09 | Adys | I got MPQMaster which dies aswell on common.mpq |
| 07:44.28 | Adys | mywarcraftstudio doesnt, but then it does shite lists not in alphabetical order which makes it horrible |
| 07:44.50 | Adys | btw zeal could you do that for me? |
| 07:44.58 | Adys | if possible ofc |
| 07:45.42 | Zeal | MPQEditor doesn't die |
| 07:45.53 | Zeal | but i already had the large mpq's split |
| 07:46.00 | Adys | well |
| 07:46.07 | Adys | what i did to create the old list |
| 07:46.21 | Zeal | so.. what do you want me to do? :S |
| 07:46.42 | Adys | what I did was extracting all lastest icons, putting them in a single folder |
| 07:46.51 | Adys | re MPQing them |
| 07:46.58 | Adys | and extracting the listfile |
| 07:47.09 | Adys | then the rest is just random changes |
| 07:47.15 | Zeal | hm.. |
| 07:47.37 | Zeal | actually, granted. i am missing the alpha.. |
| 07:47.48 | Zeal | i forgot i deleted the alpha stuff when it went to beta.. |
| 07:47.55 | Adys | oO why :p |
| 07:48.16 | Zeal | i had like 1gb left on the programs partition.. |
| 07:48.16 | Zeal | lol |
| 07:48.32 | Zeal | so i had to redo my othe partitions to make a new temp place to do all this :P |
| 07:48.54 | Adys | http://adys.stools.net/archives.png |
| 07:49.13 | Adys | and I kept only the enGB versions :p |
| 07:49.33 | Adys | thats BC Alpha+BC beta archives |
| 07:49.48 | Adys | downloaders, updaters, MPQs, and lists of changed/added files |
| 07:50.05 | Adys | 44gb, 377 files, 296 folders |
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| 07:58.00 | Zeal | net splitage : / |
| 07:58.22 | Adys | ya |
| 07:58.46 | Zeal | btw adys, why do you need it in list format? |
| 07:58.57 | Zeal | why not just run dir on the folder? |
| 07:59.54 | Zeal | dammit.. the convert missed some.. |
| 08:00.11 | Adys | no need to convert em |
| 08:00.18 | Zeal | i wanted to, lol. |
| 08:00.22 | Adys | >< |
| 08:00.54 | Zeal | i'll need to find a better converter for the new ones. |
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| 08:04.48 | Zeal | wb Kirkburn |
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| 08:07.52 | Adys | heya Kirkburn/Apollozeus |
| 08:09.17 | Zeal | http://www.zealvurte.co.uk/temp/oops/icons-blp.txt |
| 08:09.46 | Zeal | wtf does it say 13/10 not 13/1 lol |
| 08:09.49 | Zeal | gg windows.. |
| 08:10.00 | Adys | zeal, is it poss to make it only the name of the file on the line? |
| 08:10.19 | Zeal | indeed it is, was about to do that :P |
| 08:10.23 | Adys | ty :) |
| 08:10.42 | Adys | some names make me laugh tho |
| 08:10.44 | Adys | Ability_Warrior_Challange.blp |
| 08:10.55 | Adys | INV_Waepon_Bow_ZulGrub_D_01.blp |
| 08:11.06 | Adys | ZulGrub Waepons ftw tbh |
| 08:11.30 | Zeal | http://www.zealvurte.co.uk/temp/oops/icons_list-blp.txt |
| 08:11.40 | Adys | thx alot |
| 08:11.50 | Zeal | onyl thing, is you can't see the filesizes, so can't see what ones have been removed. |
| 08:12.20 | Adys | will find out while uploading em |
| 08:12.26 | Zeal | lol |
| 08:12.43 | Zeal | that's not up-todate with 2.0.3 though fyi |
| 08:12.59 | Zeal | if you want that, you can wait a few more mins (or hours) :P |
| 08:13.18 | Adys | ooh wouldnt mind |
| 08:13.46 | Adys | in 2.0.3 there are some of the old ones that were killed off |
| 08:13.56 | Adys | so aye |
| 08:14.55 | Zeal | gunna extract from 2.0.3 and then the latest beta |
| 08:15.17 | Adys | mm why from beta? |
| 08:15.26 | Zeal | cos it's newer? |
| 08:15.39 | Adys | 2.0.3 is the newest beta patch |
| 08:15.50 | Zeal | 2.0.3.fsgfdgg |
| 08:15.53 | Zeal | is the nwest |
| 08:16.02 | Zeal | wow live is behind. |
| 08:16.21 | Adys | the problem is not all from beta make it live |
| 08:16.33 | Zeal | i know |
| 08:17.01 | Zeal | but not evrything in live is up-to-date or what's going to be in BC. price you pay :P |
| 08:17.16 | Adys | do as you wish ;) |
| 08:18.01 | Zeal | well extracing live patch.mpq atm. |
| 08:18.01 | Zeal | actually woops.. no i'm not |
| 08:18.02 | Zeal | lol |
| 08:18.39 | Zeal | ok now i am :P |
| 08:22.06 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:WoW_Icons/Icon_List/BC >< |
| 08:22.46 | Zeal | lol |
| 08:23.25 | Zeal | btw, once you get all the icons done (i know, a while away) can you make scaled down versions of them? :p |
| 08:23.48 | Adys | why anyways? |
| 08:23.55 | Zeal | thinking 32x32 and 16x16. |
| 08:24.03 | Adys | [[Image:Temp.png|16]] |
| 08:24.04 | Zeal | well 16x16 is needed for currency |
| 08:24.10 | Adys | or something like that |
| 08:24.12 | Zeal | yeah, they don't scale well |
| 08:24.23 | Zeal | and the wiki fucks up with pngs :p |
| 08:24.37 | Adys | uhm |
| 08:25.42 | Zeal | tokens are the only ones in need of 16x16 atm |
| 08:25.58 | Zeal | and 32x32 can get way with scaling for now. |
| 08:26.08 | Adys | i rather have the fix for mediawiki installed by rustak or sancus |
| 08:26.19 | Zeal | lol |
| 08:26.22 | Adys | than doing 7000 scaled down pngs |
| 08:26.30 | Zeal | lol |
| 08:27.19 | Zeal | beta patch now |
| 08:27.27 | Adys | and tbh, its not really visible on 16x16 |
| 08:27.45 | Adys | on 32x32 i didnt check, but shouldnt be that bad |
| 08:28.00 | Zeal | it's visable enough @ 16x16 :p |
| 08:28.12 | Zeal | plus its not that many.. like 10 icons |
| 08:28.33 | Zeal | atm, most are missing, but the ones that are there are jpgs |
| 08:29.00 | Adys | there is probably a fix to the png bug somewhere up on the net |
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| 08:29.13 | Zeal | no, this hasn't got anything to do with the bug |
| 08:29.18 | Zeal | this is just poor scaling |
| 08:29.33 | Adys | yes it scales very poorly with pngs |
| 08:29.39 | Adys | thats the point |
| 08:29.49 | Zeal | it scales poorly with all :s |
| 08:29.50 | Adys | there has to be a fix up somewhere to scale it more normally |
| 08:29.55 | Adys | uhm |
| 08:30.11 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:WoWWiki_Graphics |
| 08:30.17 | Adys | especially with pngs :P |
| 08:30.25 | Zeal | not the wiki's fault. it's just nothing beats a properly scaled image in an image editor. |
| 08:31.48 | Zeal | well yeah |
| 08:31.50 | Zeal | fair enough |
| 08:31.57 | Zeal | still whati said applies :P |
| 08:32.14 | Zeal | ok all extracted (oddly quick) :S |
| 08:33.21 | Zeal | no new icons, bah |
| 08:33.24 | Zeal | that was a waste |
| 08:33.42 | Adys | its identical? |
| 08:34.04 | Adys | mebbe some icons were removed |
| 08:35.22 | Adys | i dont think icons such as Sword_1H_Raid_D_02.png exist anymore |
| 08:35.35 | Adys | iirc, they were 150x100 icons placeholder graphics |
| 08:35.43 | Adys | and were prob gonna be renamed into INV_Sword_1H_Raid_D_02.png |
| 08:35.46 | Adys | when done |
| 08:45.08 | Zeal | yeah, they are all empty files |
| 08:45.31 | Adys | do they exist in common.mpq / patch-enGB.mpq ? |
| 08:46.26 | Zeal | there are no icons in regions patches afaik. and not sure about common.mpq, possibly not. |
| 08:46.42 | Adys | err true, Patch.mpq sorry |
| 08:46.59 | Adys | well if they dont exist in these then they wont be used whatsoever |
| 08:47.09 | Adys | thats also why I asked for non beta content ^^ |
| 08:47.15 | Adys | but doesnt matter, got a list now :) |
| 08:47.22 | Zeal | how the hell could these icons have been modified last yeah.. |
| 08:47.28 | Zeal | *year |
| 08:47.41 | Adys | what doyou mean? |
| 08:48.06 | Zeal | they say there where modified last year.. i would think their extract would count as modification.. |
| 08:48.19 | Adys | umm |
| 08:48.39 | Adys | BC icons modified last year? oO |
| 08:48.48 | Zeal | 13 October 2006, 14:27:30, all of them. |
| 08:49.30 | Adys | no idea |
| 08:49.30 | Adys | btw |
| 08:49.36 | Adys | we are in 2.0.4.6314 now |
| 08:49.42 | Zeal | beta? |
| 08:49.42 | Adys | and if you're online, relog |
| 08:49.49 | Adys | nope, live |
| 08:49.52 | Adys | just updated it |
| 08:49.54 | Zeal | wtf.. |
| 08:49.56 | Adys | was a hotfix |
| 08:50.23 | Adys | haa |
| 08:50.25 | Adys | haha* |
| 08:50.25 | Zeal | 2.0 is not fucking ready.. grr |
| 08:50.27 | Adys | sorry =P |
| 08:51.51 | Adys | hahahaha |
| 08:51.55 | Adys | you wanna know the best part |
| 08:51.58 | Adys | some icons were updated :P |
| 08:52.04 | Adys | bloodpact one for one |
| 08:52.10 | Zeal | >_o |
| 08:52.24 | Zeal | they've made patch-2.. |
| 08:52.50 | Zeal | no icons |
| 08:53.13 | Adys | yes but some of the old ones were updated |
| 08:53.17 | Adys | in patch.mpq |
| 08:53.17 | Zeal | nope |
| 08:53.28 | Zeal | it's not been touched. |
| 08:53.33 | Adys | no way, the bloodpact icon is totally different now |
| 08:53.35 | Adys | its blue.. |
| 08:53.55 | Adys | oooo i know why |
| 08:53.59 | Adys | it calls up another icon instead |
| 08:54.03 | Adys | ignore me im stupid |
| 08:54.11 | Zeal | :p |
| 08:54.50 | Adys | argh i gotta lead the MC PuG today and I didnt sleep |
| 08:54.50 | Adys | cry |
| 08:55.03 | Adys | special run this week! |
| 08:55.05 | Zeal | lol |
| 08:55.18 | Zeal | last run before you never run it again? ;) |
| 08:55.23 | Adys | yup |
| 08:55.27 | Adys | last run before BC |
| 08:55.30 | Zeal | lol |
| 08:55.45 | Zeal | i'm glad their dead |
| 08:55.56 | Zeal | though i would have prefered to see them get scalled down |
| 08:56.02 | Zeal | *they're |
| 09:16.42 | Zeal | Ability_Druid_Mangle.tga.blp |
| 09:16.43 | Zeal | heh |
| 09:16.47 | Zeal | gg blizz |
| 09:16.53 | Adys | ^^ |
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| 09:23.31 | Apollozeus | question |
| 09:23.37 | Apollozeus | are articles like http://www.wowwiki.com/Burning_Crusade_Interview_with_Shane_Dabiri_at_CVG_Online to be kept? |
| 09:24.01 | Adys | mm poke kirkburn for it |
| 09:24.58 | Zeal | i'd probably remove it. unless the soruce is likely to vanish or not be accesable, in which case, it needs to be wikified into that article. thats just imo though ;) |
| 09:27.39 | Zeal | Axe_1H_Draenei_A_01<color>.blp are all f'd according to my converter : / |
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| 09:31.40 | Bagginsww | ahh adys I accidently redirected something manual rather than doing a direct move. |
| 09:31.50 | Adys | mm? |
| 09:31.57 | Bagginsww | could you move |
| 09:31.58 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=God&oldid=355506 |
| 09:32.07 | Bagginsww | over to "Eternals" so that we can keep a history |
| 09:33.00 | Adys | ok |
| 09:33.04 | Bagginsww | thanks |
| 09:33.26 | Zeal | well you could have reverted and moved it yourself ;) |
| 09:33.39 | Adys | done |
| 09:33.43 | Adys | no zeal |
| 09:33.48 | Adys | he cant move over an existing page |
| 09:33.48 | Bagginsww | wowwiki doesn't allow me to move things over other articles already in existence |
| 09:34.11 | Zeal | oh yeah, that. |
| 09:34.13 | Zeal | kk |
| 09:35.10 | Zeal | don't forget the talk page, heh. |
| 09:35.15 | Bagginsww | its moved |
| 09:35.44 | Bagginsww | now I'll add some stuff and do some citations |
| 09:36.12 | Bagginsww | so that people have an idea where the term Eternal comes from LOL |
| 09:39.06 | Bagginsww | added Eternals to the eternal disambig page |
| 09:39.13 | Zeal | Apollozeus, i thought PC in userspace was not the policy. |
| 09:46.21 | Bagginsww | well gnight |
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| 10:18.57 | Zeal | http://www.zealvurte.co.uk/temp/oops/icons.txt Adys |
| 10:19.01 | Zeal | there is your final list |
| 10:19.23 | Adys | awesome :) ty |
| 10:19.24 | Zeal | that's minus ones that are dead, all listed in .png |
| 10:19.50 | Zeal | now to go back and reconvert all the new ones that didn't come out right : / |
| 10:20.11 | Adys | no worries |
| 10:20.27 | Zeal | i wish blizz was consitant with the border transparency.. |
| 10:20.37 | Adys | same >< |
| 10:20.57 | Zeal | i'll upload what new ones i can for ya. |
| 10:21.28 | Zeal | seriously considering we just drop the borders.. lol |
| 10:21.49 | Zeal | just take a inside of the icon and throw a css border on, lol. |
| 10:21.55 | Zeal | *take the |
| 10:22.10 | Adys | zeal: if you could categorize the new uploads as [[Category:WoW Icons]] itd be great |
| 10:22.28 | Zeal | hm.. |
| 10:22.31 | Adys | so that i can sort out which new ones have been uploaded and recategorize as Category:WoW Icons:Yaddiyadda later on |
| 10:23.11 | Zeal | it goes against my current method to not categorize against my proposal and just do the basicals P |
| 10:23.14 | Zeal | *basics |
| 10:23.19 | Zeal | basicals? rofl |
| 10:23.25 | Zeal | but yeah, kk i will. |
| 10:23.40 | Adys | thanks |
| 10:25.46 | Zeal | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Ability_Hunter_SnakeTrap.png does that defeat the point? : / |
| 10:25.51 | Zeal | *doesn't |
| 10:26.02 | Adys | yeah i know |
| 10:26.06 | Adys | its a placeholder one |
| 10:26.17 | Adys | because i couldn't convert it from the original blp |
| 10:26.19 | Zeal | i know, but a placeholder kinda messes up the list |
| 10:26.20 | Zeal | lol |
| 10:26.26 | Adys | its one of the new BLP stuff |
| 10:26.32 | Zeal | yeah.. it's those ones i'm attempting to convert now. |
| 10:26.42 | Adys | just do it as Upload a new version of this file |
| 10:26.55 | Adys | and eventually poke me and tell me which ones you uploaded so i can delete the placeholder |
| 10:27.43 | Zeal | i'm not familiar with the image stuff on the wiki. huh? lol |
| 10:28.19 | Adys | on the image page, you got a link "Upload a new version of this file" |
| 10:29.44 | Zeal | doesn't that replace it immediately? |
| 10:29.52 | Zeal | keeping the old one in history? |
| 10:30.04 | Adys | yup it does |
| 10:30.11 | Adys | but i just delete the old one |
| 10:30.24 | Zeal | ah, kk |
| 10:55.18 | Zeal | the high elf article as a good example of why we should be explaing when and where to use floats and clears.. |
| 10:55.23 | Zeal | that thing is a mess.. |
| 10:59.38 | Zeal | the main issue.. is the stupid wowbox (that thing needs to die..) |
| 11:05.02 | Fin | what time is the MC pickup today, Adys? |
| 11:05.24 | Fin | probably the last 40-man I'll ever do... *sniff* |
| 11:05.40 | Fin | end of an era |
| 11:06.18 | Zeal | thank god |
| 11:06.21 | Zeal | heh |
| 11:06.28 | Zeal | *praise elune |
| 11:06.29 | Zeal | :p |
| 11:06.44 | Adys | fin: ill start the invs around 1250 |
| 11:09.35 | Fin | righto |
| 11:09.46 | Fin | hey, Adys' MC raids are legendary |
| 11:10.01 | Adys | fin btw |
| 11:10.08 | Adys | did you hear about naraxi's bwl pug? ^^ |
| 11:10.13 | Adys | it went really well :) |
| 11:10.14 | Adys | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=102480640 |
| 11:10.17 | Fin | heh, yeah! awesome :) |
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| 11:42.09 | Adys | fin get online :) |
| 11:42.30 | Fin | I finished my quest and the legends of the great Beer were true! all true! |
| 11:42.32 | Adys | and get on your ts! |
| 11:42.34 | Zeal | there, fixed High elf page. |
| 11:42.48 | Fin | I have it in my hands now, truly it is a wonderous thing |
| 11:42.49 | Fin | yay |
| 11:43.00 | Fin | yeah. I will later, gf here atm |
| 11:43.11 | Adys | ok, sec |
| 11:43.19 | Zeal | next wowbox needs to be removed form all existance so pages can make use of the toc properly and put that information in more useful places.. *sighs* |
| 11:43.25 | Zeal | *from |
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| 12:31.42 | Zeal | hey Teomyr |
| 12:31.57 | Teomyr | hey |
| 12:47.35 | Zeal | how goeth the item stuff? |
| 12:55.04 | Teomyr | didn't do much about it, i have to admit |
| 12:55.18 | Teomyr | but now since the beta is over... :D |
| 12:55.41 | Zeal | lol |
| 13:04.29 | Teomyr | problem is, i need to transfer all the contents of one WDB file into a mysql table |
| 13:04.46 | Teomyr | since wdb are cache files and never contain all items |
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| 13:13.16 | Zeal | thats a problem why? :S |
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| 13:21.41 | Teomyr | because wdb files are hell to parse, and because i need to create a mysql table structure that also includes DBC data tables (some fields in the wdb reference them) |
| 13:22.01 | Zeal | i see |
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| 13:28.33 | Zeal | hey Tekkub |
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| 13:37.59 | Zeal | wiki's really aren't good at protecting from accidental DoS : / |
| 13:38.00 | Zeal | *mediawiki really isn't |
| 13:41.45 | Zeal | not good.. >_o; |
| 13:44.05 | Zeal | vm |
| 13:44.09 | Zeal | guess its IE.. |
| 13:44.14 | Zeal | *nvm |
| 13:46.25 | Zeal | lame, logged me out too |
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| 14:19.23 | beeyatch | ehhlo :) |
| 14:21.24 | beeyatch | i ever wanted to talk to one of the wowwiki admins - so one of you would out himself... please pm me :) thanks |
| 14:33.07 | Zeal | not sure many of them are about atm beeyatch *pokes Adys Tekkub Hobinheim and Kirkburn* |
| 14:33.49 | Tekkub | meh? |
| 14:34.59 | Zeal | dunno, beeyatch wants an admin, guess english isn't his native language either. |
| 14:35.08 | Zeal | rofl @ Kirkburn|afk |
| 14:37.07 | beeyatch | :o) |
| 14:37.30 | beeyatch | i use to talk german and by schoolish english is kind of weak :) |
| 14:37.43 | beeyatch | s/by/my/ |
| 14:37.55 | beeyatch | nice |
| 14:38.46 | beeyatch | Zeal: but thanks anyways. |
| 14:39.17 | dotted | infobot meant to say: ysed |
| 14:39.29 | dotted | *used |
| 14:39.30 | dotted | ffs |
| 14:39.45 | beeyatch | :) |
| 14:42.07 | Zeal | adys, i almost made the mistake you did with converting to wiki markup of the list. there is an ABILITY_POISONS, but the markup process (guess you did a replace too) changes it to Ability_POISONS :p |
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| 15:34.05 | Zeal | http://www.wow-europe.com/en/misc/wowinsider/wowi11/collectors.html |
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| 16:26.09 | Zeal | whats up with the lack of talking, you'd think it was the weekend or something.. |
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| 16:50.31 | Hobinheim | it *is* the weekend... |
| 16:50.44 | Hobinheim | some might even call it "saturday" |
| 16:50.50 | Hobinheim | i dunno if that concept exists in azeroth |
| 16:50.58 | equiraptor | The sky is falling. |
| 16:51.05 | equiraptor | At least, all the water in the sky is falling. |
| 16:51.08 | Zeal | lol |
| 16:51.29 | equiraptor | It's scaring the cat. |
| 16:51.43 | equiraptor | You'd think a 13 year old cat would have learned that he's safe from the rain when inside. |
| 16:51.58 | Zeal | same for my dog |
| 16:52.38 | Hobinheim | i think i found a solution for my alt itis |
| 16:52.57 | Hobinheim | each day, i'll let an algorithm decide what character to play. and then for all of that day, i'll be that character |
| 16:53.02 | Hobinheim | i like... algorithms. =/ |
| 16:53.05 | equiraptor | heh |
| 16:54.39 | equiraptor | I just play whichever character both fits my mood and helps me reach my current goal. |
| 16:56.32 | Zeal | i just play one char |
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| 16:56.56 | Zeal | i got over my altitis after playing each class and getting very bored. |
| 16:56.59 | equiraptor | Once I roll my draenei and BE, I'll play 20. :) |
| 16:58.41 | nemppu | does en.wikipedia.org have an official IRC channel ? |
| 16:58.56 | Zeal | its on this network somewhere i think :s |
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| 16:59.26 | Zeal | /list |
| 16:59.46 | nemppu | yep |
| 16:59.52 | nemppu | just did a /list after you said that :P |
| 16:59.55 | nemppu | #wikipedia |
| 16:59.56 | nemppu | :} |
| 17:02.17 | Hobinheim | out of eight classes (i refuse to play an alliance paladin), today is *Rogue Day* |
| 17:02.20 | Hobinheim | and i hate rogues... =( |
| 17:02.53 | equiraptor | Today I need to play my rogue and/or my warlock. |
| 17:03.16 | nemppu | the new TBC servers will be so lame |
| 17:03.17 | equiraptor | Because my current goal is everything to 50, and those two are the only two uder 50 that have a good amount of rest. My mage is now 49. |
| 17:03.24 | nemppu | craploads of draenei and bloodelves? o.o |
| 17:05.20 | Zeal | no new TBC servers >_o |
| 17:08.55 | nemppu | aha |
| 17:08.56 | nemppu | wait |
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| 17:08.58 | nemppu | ill give you an url |
| 17:09.15 | nemppu | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=108440927&sid=1 |
| 17:09.19 | nemppu | how 'bout that, Zeal? |
| 17:09.48 | Zeal | what fucktards |
| 17:10.19 | Zeal | they've already said before hand ther was no need for new servers as the existing servers are able to handle the influx they are predicting |
| 17:10.56 | Hobinheim | yeah they already had the MEGA UPGRADE to their data centers |
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| 17:11.08 | Zeal | then they say they'll see after launch if they need more, while also saying that they are planning to introduce server splitting instead of adding new realms in the future. |
| 17:11.14 | fLUx_ | hey everyone |
| 17:11.30 | fLUx_ | Just wondering if somebody could help me.....? |
| 17:11.41 | Hobinheim | just start talking |
| 17:11.47 | Zeal | now they say they're opening thme on launch?!?! wtf.. they'll be full of new races only. before launch or not at all.. simple. |
| 17:11.57 | Zeal | indeed.. ignore me fLUx_ :P |
| 17:12.42 | nemppu | so yeah |
| 17:12.45 | nemppu | pretty lame |
| 17:12.52 | Zeal | just ranting because blizzard are being stupid as usual.. |
| 17:12.53 | nemppu | serverfull of draenei shamen and belf paladins? |
| 17:13.01 | Zeal | mhm.. |
| 17:13.08 | nemppu | how lame is that! \o/ |
| 17:13.14 | nemppu | im rolling a draenei but on an existing server |
| 17:13.25 | Zeal | i doubt it will be those classes |
| 17:13.31 | Zeal | it would be any |
| 17:13.41 | fLUx_ | OK, I have ordered wow, and it should be here on mondy.....but before then, I have to choose which realm type i want to be in.. (PvP, ect..) Which should i choose? |
| 17:14.03 | Hobinheim | have you never played an mmo before? |
| 17:14.07 | Hobinheim | do you like to role play? |
| 17:14.16 | Zeal | but only those races really, which means their areas will be overcrowed and people will be whining about time they have to spend getting mobs etc.. |
| 17:14.17 | Hobinheim | you have four choices. two times two really. so that's four |
| 17:14.22 | fLUx_ | Yeh, silkroad online, but the story was crap |
| 17:14.34 | Hobinheim | do you like to role play? or do you want to? |
| 17:14.50 | fLUx_ | I dont think i want to join a RP server nope |
| 17:15.03 | fLUx_ | I think it will between pvP and pve |
| 17:15.07 | Zeal | if you're an Roleplayer, RP, if not normal (PvE). PvP is a waste of time |
| 17:15.25 | Zeal | ..literally. |
| 17:15.29 | Hobinheim | so |
| 17:15.31 | fLUx_ | whats the difference, exept in pvp people can attack without warning? |
| 17:15.34 | fLUx_ | is pvp bad then? |
| 17:15.37 | Zeal | pretty much |
| 17:15.37 | nemppu | no |
| 17:15.38 | Hobinheim | do you want to focus on attacking others or fighting dragons |
| 17:15.41 | nemppu | PVP is for real players |
| 17:15.45 | nemppu | PVE is for whiny girls |
| 17:15.49 | Zeal | nemppu, stfu : / |
| 17:15.52 | Hobinheim | nemppu, that's a gross generalization |
| 17:15.55 | Hobinheim | and it's not helping |
| 17:15.56 | nemppu | also pvp players are full of 12 year old kids |
| 17:16.02 | nemppu | so~ |
| 17:16.03 | Hobinheim | god help me if i actually have to use my powers to shut you up |
| 17:16.04 | nemppu | i suggest RP-PVP |
| 17:16.06 | Hobinheim | okay one more time |
| 17:16.07 | nemppu | full of mature people |
| 17:16.08 | Hobinheim | i dare you |
| 17:16.10 | nemppu | and the real ruleset |
| 17:16.29 | fLUx_ | what "is" RP? |
| 17:16.32 | nemppu | i think even the ruleset on WoW PVP is lame |
| 17:16.33 | Hobinheim | role playing |
| 17:16.34 | nemppu | roleplay |
| 17:16.41 | Hobinheim | like you pretend that you are your character |
| 17:16.43 | nemppu | basically |
| 17:16.46 | Hobinheim | talk, walk, act like an orc |
| 17:16.49 | nemppu | how RP servers differ from normal: |
| 17:16.57 | fLUx_ | oh stuff that....dont like the idea of that lol |
| 17:16.58 | Hobinheim | RP and normal are the same in game mechanics |
| 17:16.59 | nemppu | ¤ people are generally a lot more mature |
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| 17:17.44 | Angelic | 'eve |
| 17:17.47 | fLUx_ | does pvp have ALL the same stuff as pve in? |
| 17:18.00 | Angelic | Realms you mean? |
| 17:18.03 | fLUx_ | yeh |
| 17:18.15 | Angelic | Yeah, they are like 100% simillar |
| 17:18.23 | Angelic | But some functioning is different |
| 17:18.26 | Hobinheim | yeah they're all the same |
| 17:18.29 | Hobinheim | same items same people |
| 17:18.29 | nemppu | sorry, back, phone |
| 17:18.33 | Hobinheim | they just sort of function different |
| 17:18.39 | Hobinheim | RP and Normal have no difference |
| 17:18.39 | nemppu | yes also on RP severs you can use smilies or abbrevations in /say or /yell |
| 17:18.46 | Hobinheim | it's just how the community chooses to act |
| 17:18.47 | Angelic | Its about relationships between horde an alliance :) |
| 17:18.47 | Zeal | Basically, if you enjoy spending your time killing other people, and don't mind people killing you randomly without warning while you're not killing people, then PvP is for you. the benefit of PvP is only the enjoyment of killing other people (usually resulting in them getting pissed off and ruining their day playing), yet you can be corpse camped, ganked and griefed under the PvP ruleset. |
| 17:18.59 | Angelic | Pvp is more like 'Real world' :) |
| 17:19.03 | Hobinheim | pvp basically means war is always on |
| 17:19.09 | Hobinheim | pve means you have to declare war |
| 17:19.12 | nemppu | so summary on how normal servers and rp servers differ: you have to talk properly by rp rules in /say and /yell, on all other chats youre allowed to takl as you like, AND people are generally more mature |
| 17:19.15 | Hobinheim | otherwise, war can actually be "off" |
| 17:19.16 | nemppu | so RP = win! |
| 17:19.23 | nemppu | rp-pvp = double win! |
| 17:19.46 | Hobinheim | role playing servers don't have any mechanics built in to police role playing. they have zero differences between them an other servers, other than how the players choose to conduct themselves |
| 17:19.47 | Angelic | I never knew what is rp :( |
| 17:19.48 | nemppu | i just think the pve ruleset is very much lame |
| 17:19.52 | fLUx_ | ummmmm |
| 17:19.59 | Angelic | I can kill you in words there? |
| 17:20.02 | Hobinheim | nemppu, no more POV when helping someone come to a decision |
| 17:20.03 | nemppu | being able to dance in front of other faction player and the other faction player cant attack |
| 17:20.03 | Zeal | Hobinheim, RP severs do have naming rules, and chatting rules. nothing to do with what the community chooses. |
| 17:20.09 | nemppu | POV? |
| 17:20.18 | Hobinheim | Zeal, i've heard that they aren't policed much |
| 17:20.19 | Zeal | point of view, bias |
| 17:20.21 | nemppu | im allowed to have opinions though, am i not? |
| 17:20.22 | Hobinheim | and i've seen some pretty stupid names |
| 17:20.53 | Zeal | that is true Hobinheim, that's one of many reasons why RP in wow is so poor and RPers feel Blizzard don't care about them. |
| 17:20.57 | Hobinheim | no mod sass so i'll break out the [Ban Hammer] |
| 17:21.17 | Angelic | Catch you later |
| 17:21.20 | Kirkburn|afk | This is seriously idiotic - NFS Carbon only works on Vista if you set it to Win98/ME compatibility :/ |
| 17:21.28 | Hobinheim | nfs carbon? |
| 17:21.29 | Zeal | cya Angelic |
| 17:21.31 | nemppu | :D |
| 17:21.33 | fLUx_ | Whats the community of wow like? I know theres always little fuckers who kill everyone they see, but do normal [sane] people go round killing people in pvp? |
| 17:21.37 | Zeal | rofl Kirkburn|afk |
| 17:21.47 | Kirkburn|afk | Need For Speed Carbon, this is why I am afk ;) |
| 17:21.52 | Hobinheim | fLUx_, mixed back |
| 17:21.52 | nemppu | fLUx_ not everyon will kill you instantly |
| 17:21.53 | Hobinheim | *bag |
| 17:21.58 | Zeal | NFS MW rarely evne starts up on my pc. |
| 17:22.03 | nemppu | some will even help you ^^ |
| 17:22.03 | Zeal | and thats under xp ofc.. |
| 17:22.05 | Hobinheim | some subscribe to red is dead, some say don't kill people |
| 17:22.08 | nemppu | and some, will kill you after you help them |
| 17:22.15 | Hobinheim | some wave at you |
| 17:22.19 | Hobinheim | some wait for an engagement |
| 17:22.20 | nemppu | yep yep yep |
| 17:22.22 | Hobinheim | some even trick you |
| 17:22.28 | nemppu | all kinds of people |
| 17:22.34 | Hobinheim | all various types of play |
| 17:22.42 | Kirkburn|afk | Carbon came out when Vista was in beta :/ |
| 17:22.42 | Hobinheim | but know that on pvp war is always on and always possible |
| 17:22.51 | fLUx_ | ummmmm...coming here has made my choice harder lmao |
| 17:22.53 | Hobinheim | very sort of... tense feeling when you're in a war-able area |
| 17:23.06 | Hobinheim | my recommendation if you're warming up to wow is pve |
| 17:23.12 | Hobinheim | that way, you don't have to worry about other people |
| 17:23.13 | nemppu | yeah, a bit so, and the danger and excitement should be there |
| 17:23.13 | Zeal | it's basically is PvP benefit worth the risk? the benefit doesn't interest me in the slightest anyways, so for me it's certainly not. |
| 17:23.24 | Hobinheim | in pve you can always turn on war if you'd like, and fight other people who have declared war |
| 17:23.29 | Hobinheim | in pvp you have no such choice |
| 17:23.34 | nemppu | IMO it is retarded that you can have an orc dance naked on you and you cant do anything about it .. on PvE servers.. |
| 17:24.04 | nemppu | even the PvP ruleset is a bit too carebear |
| 17:24.06 | Zeal | IMO it's retarded horde and alliance are hostile.. but who cares, blizz don' |
| 17:24.09 | Zeal | *don't |
| 17:24.15 | nemppu | true that |
| 17:24.20 | nemppu | but |
| 17:24.27 | nemppu | its complicated |
| 17:24.30 | Hobinheim | pvp is more... "real" in that the alliance and horde will always have thepossibility of attacking one another |
| 17:24.32 | nemppu | humen would kill orcs |
| 17:24.41 | nemppu | nelves wouldnt kill tauren or vice versa |
| 17:24.42 | Hobinheim | pve tends to not be as realistic because both factions and coexist and not interact with one another |
| 17:24.53 | Hobinheim | it's sort of silly from a lore perspective |
| 17:24.59 | nemppu | yeah |
| 17:25.13 | nemppu | but blizzard rapes the lore anyway |
| 17:25.23 | Hobinheim | oh so i thought of this great idea to bookmark a list of all my mods on the wiki =P i hate patch day so much... |
| 17:25.25 | nemppu | killing off vashj and kael! ;_____; |
| 17:25.31 | nemppu | and the whole draenei fiasco... |
| 17:25.51 | Zeal | nemppu, the option for people should be there. but because soem people get pleasure out of griefing it's a moot point, too many care not for enjoying the game nad more for ruining it for others. that's the way of all games. way of life. |
| 17:26.22 | nemppu | there's a saying |
| 17:26.25 | nemppu | pvp problem, pvp solution |
| 17:26.44 | Hobinheim | i like red is dead, but i don't like ggriefing |
| 17:26.53 | Hobinheim | i usually end up logging off... the terrorists have won! |
| 17:27.19 | Hobinheim | revving up a soul fire on an unsuspecting victim is pretty fun tho =P |
| 17:27.35 | Hobinheim | but then being two shotting , back stabbed, or becoming pet food, not as fun |
| 17:27.36 | Zeal | i always recommend casuals don't play on PvP servers. one case of griefing can essentially ruining a whole day-week's worth of gaming. |
| 17:27.40 | nemppu | if some group of people claim theirselves as the undisputed kings of Stranglethorn Vale and kill everyone.. then they may.. and what you can do about it? Stay away from them, or get a bunch of people and own them |
| 17:27.47 | nemppu | it's all fun stuff that can happen on a PVP server |
| 17:27.53 | Zeal | *ruin |
| 17:27.56 | Hobinheim | i think fLUx_ is gone, haha |
| 17:28.00 | nemppu | and instead of crying about it people should enjoy it |
| 17:28.06 | fLUx_ | nah, still here lol |
| 17:28.10 | Zeal | lol |
| 17:28.13 | nemppu | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:28.19 | nemppu | he is now just completely confused |
| 17:28.31 | nemppu | its just a simple series of questions you need to ask yourself |
| 17:28.41 | nemppu | about how do you feel about the ruleset |
| 17:28.53 | Zeal | if you've got someone higher levle, just killing your quest mobs, and killing you, corpse camping. your allocated time to play, as a casual, is taken away from you. |
| 17:28.58 | nemppu | do you feel opposite faction players should be able to kill each other in the world? |
| 17:29.04 | nemppu | if you think yes --> pvp, if you think no --> pve |
| 17:29.24 | Zeal | which is where i see the problem in PvP, because that time does add up to someone's money, and someone's life. |
| 17:29.26 | nemppu | Zeal there are multiple zones for all levels |
| 17:29.40 | fLUx_ | acctully, in silkroad online, people could kill others......so guess i dont mind it lol |
| 17:29.46 | Zeal | not if you need to get quests done nemppu |
| 17:30.00 | nemppu | you dont --need-- to get quests done |
| 17:30.06 | fLUx_ | Im just not into the killing mobs ALL the time lol |
| 17:30.10 | Zeal | yes, you do |
| 17:30.10 | nemppu | go somewhere else and grind? log off and go read a book? |
| 17:30.20 | nemppu | go somewhere else and do quests? |
| 17:30.34 | fLUx_ | OK, decided.....pvp for me! ;) |
| 17:30.42 | nemppu | well chosen :) |
| 17:30.42 | Hobinheim | no offense to our fellow admin, but like... why clearfont |
| 17:30.50 | Hobinheim | i guess i personally don't have prboelms with the ui? |
| 17:30.52 | Zeal | no, because in that process you've lost travelling money, more time, and you've also got rez sickness mroe thna likely |
| 17:30.58 | Zeal | it doesn't work. |
| 17:31.02 | Hobinheim | maybe it's for people who like the font changed? |
| 17:31.07 | nemppu | zeal if you feel like that about playing a game |
| 17:31.15 | nemppu | then you should probably play singleplayer games |
| 17:31.20 | Zeal | rofl |
| 17:31.21 | nemppu | they dont --waste your time-- |
| 17:31.22 | Hobinheim | fLUx_, by the way, the introductory zones for any character are like pve |
| 17:31.22 | Zeal | no |
| 17:31.25 | Hobinheim | war off by default |
| 17:31.32 | Hobinheim | so when you first start the game, wherever you are, you are "safe" |
| 17:31.44 | Hobinheim | as you venture out into the world, you are exposed to more and more war on zones |
| 17:31.49 | Zeal | <nemppu> do you feel opposite faction players should be able to kill each other in the world? <-- stupid question, that applies to PvE too. |
| 17:31.49 | Hobinheim | so, it's still a good decision |
| 17:31.50 | Hobinheim | either way |
| 17:31.59 | nemppu | it does not |
| 17:32.05 | nemppu | both have to flag theirselves for pvp |
| 17:32.06 | Hobinheim | pve you can declare war |
| 17:32.08 | fLUx_ | what are the quests like? Is EVERY quest "Go kill XX blah-blahs and report back to XXX ncp" ? |
| 17:32.12 | nemppu | if the other guy doesnt want to he can be untouchable |
| 17:32.12 | nemppu | therefor |
| 17:32.13 | Zeal | and? |
| 17:32.15 | nemppu | the other guy cant kill him |
| 17:32.20 | Hobinheim | fLUx_, collection, kills, and like... reporting |
| 17:32.25 | Hobinheim | that's basically all of the quests |
| 17:32.27 | Zeal | doesn't mean you can't |
| 17:32.30 | Hobinheim | in different permutations |
| 17:32.35 | nemppu | Zeal does too |
| 17:32.39 | Hobinheim | kill boars, collect teeth, investigate the volcanic |
| 17:32.41 | nemppu | if the other doesnt have pvp flagged |
| 17:32.42 | Hobinheim | *volcano |
| 17:32.45 | nemppu | you _cant_ kill him |
| 17:32.52 | Zeal | nemppu, i'm sorry. but you're a bit of an idiot. cba anymore. |
| 17:32.53 | nemppu | as in |
| 17:33.05 | Hobinheim | hey zeal, no ad hominem attacks |
| 17:33.05 | nemppu | hah |
| 17:33.12 | nemppu | very mature |
| 17:33.17 | fLUx_ | Cant wait for my discs to arrive now!! :D |
| 17:33.19 | Hobinheim | the [Ban Hammer] knows no bounds |
| 17:33.25 | Zeal | lol |
| 17:33.27 | Hobinheim | fLUx_, you can download the trial |
| 17:33.30 | Hobinheim | if you REALLY want to play now |
| 17:33.35 | nemppu | i think he just ran out of arguements. tbh |
| 17:33.35 | Hobinheim | i think. |
| 17:33.37 | Hobinheim | ? |
| 17:33.49 | Hobinheim | nemppu, no need to drive it into the ground |
| 17:33.49 | Zeal | my patience with the ignorant does know bounds though. especially when i'm tired. |
| 17:33.55 | Hobinheim | now i'm just looking for an excuse to ban anyone |
| 17:34.05 | nemppu | also the trial account can be converted to real account |
| 17:34.14 | fLUx_ | Yeh, I was gonna download the trail, but decided not to, cos your restricted and stuff |
| 17:34.16 | Hobinheim | do they allow anyone to make a trial account? |
| 17:34.22 | Hobinheim | cuz the trial is essentially free |
| 17:34.26 | nemppu | yes |
| 17:34.29 | fLUx_ | Ive played wow before, but it bored me to death!! |
| 17:34.34 | Hobinheim | fLUx_, the amount of restrictions on the trial account shouldn't be too visible in the starting zones |
| 17:34.40 | Hobinheim | oh okay nevermind then |
| 17:34.41 | nemppu | but you cant do stuff like.. use auction house? can you even actually talk? |
| 17:34.43 | Hobinheim | why were you bored? |
| 17:34.50 | fLUx_ | mainly cos i was in a private server with 20 people only! :P |
| 17:34.54 | Zeal | without friends, it is generally a very boring game imo. especially once you hit 60. |
| 17:34.57 | Hobinheim | shady... |
| 17:34.59 | nemppu | fLUx_ that explains |
| 17:35.01 | Hobinheim | wow = social chat |
| 17:35.22 | Zeal | which you can do for free outside wow ;) |
| 17:35.33 | nemppu | you should find some nice guild |
| 17:35.40 | nemppu | guilds are the reason why people tend to get addicted to wow |
| 17:35.53 | Hobinheim | which is exactly why i don't know what to do with my guild |
| 17:35.56 | nemppu | the game itself is not that addictive but the social relationships |
| 17:35.57 | fLUx_ | where do the quests come from? Are they all on the disc when you buy it? |
| 17:35.59 | Hobinheim | i don't want to become addicted |
| 17:35.59 | Zeal | they're also the main reason people get fed up with wow :P |
| 17:36.07 | Hobinheim | quests come from talking to people with yellow question marks |
| 17:36.12 | Hobinheim | they are your quest givers |
| 17:36.39 | Hobinheim | the discs essentially don't matter... they just contain 3d models and what not |
| 17:36.58 | fLUx_ | Yeh, but people say that they have been playing for like 2 years, and still havent finished all the quests?! |
| 17:37.00 | Zeal | anyone here see TB's lecture on WoW addiction? |
| 17:37.12 | Hobinheim | tb? |
| 17:37.21 | Hobinheim | fLUx_, it's not something to "finish" |
| 17:37.26 | Zeal | total biscuit, total halibut if you prefer. |
| 17:37.27 | Hobinheim | there's SO many quests in the entire world |
| 17:37.34 | Hobinheim | who's tb? |
| 17:37.35 | Hobinheim | link? |
| 17:37.41 | Hobinheim | it's not a very good goal |
| 17:37.43 | fLUx_ | Its not possible to finish? Or would it just take far to long? |
| 17:37.50 | Zeal | lol, search on the wiki :P |
| 17:37.54 | Hobinheim | it's a combination of not possible and not practical |
| 17:37.55 | nemppu | fLUx_ you wont essentially be doing all the quests |
| 17:37.59 | Zeal | he has his own article, he's that infamous. |
| 17:38.07 | nemppu | you will do quests to get to a higher level |
| 17:38.11 | Hobinheim | quests are given a level |
| 17:38.21 | Hobinheim | and when you become a higher level character, you should just start ignoring lower level quests |
| 17:38.26 | Hobinheim | i mean, there are players who really like doing ALL the quests |
| 17:38.36 | Hobinheim | but as one faction, you're essentially doing only half of them |
| 17:39.00 | Hobinheim | and then there are quests targetted for specific demographics, some of which you current character will never be applicable |
| 17:39.01 | fLUx_ | So, if I wanted to ignore 80% of the quests, it wouldnt really matter? |
| 17:39.08 | Hobinheim | yeah it woudnlt' matter |
| 17:39.31 | Hobinheim | what quests give, besides unique item quests, can be superseded by other quests that give better items or alternate rewards |
| 17:39.50 | *** join/#wowwiki nemppu- (i=nemppu@a84-230-13-208.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 17:39.52 | Zeal | quests are jut one way of leveling, earning money, earning unique quest reward items. |
| 17:39.59 | Hobinheim | or learning about lore ={ |
| 17:40.01 | Hobinheim | *** =P |
| 17:40.08 | Zeal | was just about to add that :P |
| 17:40.22 | Zeal | most people though skip the quest text.. so meh |
| 17:40.28 | Hobinheim | i dunno i want to sit down and read |
| 17:40.39 | Hobinheim | zeal do you know a good book mod |
| 17:40.56 | nemppu- | what was the last thing you got from me? |
| 17:41.08 | Hobinheim | you will do quests to get to a higher level |
| 17:41.17 | Zeal | pissed me off when some big raiding guild opned AQ and made some comments about the scripted sequence bieng stupid and a waste of time.. |
| 17:41.26 | nemppu- | hmm ok |
| 17:41.33 | Zeal | book mod? |
| 17:41.56 | nemppu- | <nemppu> you will do quests to get to a higher level |
| 17:41.56 | nemppu- | <nemppu> once you are at level cap |
| 17:41.56 | nemppu- | <nemppu> you will be focused on getting better and better gear |
| 17:41.56 | nemppu- | <nemppu> by raiding instances with your guild |
| 17:42.15 | fLUx_ | Do things happen randomly? Like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHo7BHo3CJQ |
| 17:42.54 | Hobinheim | i haven't looked at it yet but i'm guessing not often |
| 17:42.58 | Zeal | *focused on the endless grind and boring instance runs for gear, usually combined with guild politics (aka arguments over DKP and disbands) |
| 17:43.03 | nemppu- | occasionly someone puts up a raid to go someplace |
| 17:43.10 | Hobinheim | that was essentially a once in a life time thing, what you're looking at |
| 17:43.18 | Hobinheim | the video is of the end of beta i believe |
| 17:43.26 | Hobinheim | that's when the developers are having fun |
| 17:43.31 | Hobinheim | which has almost no reflection on daily wow |
| 17:43.35 | nemppu- | not too often though as, ignoring the fun value, it is mainly pointless |
| 17:43.52 | fLUx_ | lol |
| 17:44.07 | nemppu- | aha now i see what that video is about |
| 17:44.11 | nemppu- | no that kind of stuff doesnt happen |
| 17:45.51 | Zeal | that's not the beta event is it Hobinheim, just the opening event. |
| 17:46.10 | fLUx_ | If I have the UK version of the game, do I have to play on EU servers? Or can i join a US server? |
| 17:46.20 | Zeal | EU |
| 17:47.38 | fLUx_ | oh great! :( Hopefully theres not loads of german/french/spanish/whatever people.........lol |
| 17:48.25 | Zeal | EU has spanish, english, french and german language servers. |
| 17:48.40 | fLUx_ | Oh, gdgd |
| 17:49.06 | Zeal | you'll find on the english servers, the rest of europe. |
| 17:49.38 | Zeal | most of it is english spoken, but you might see some portugese, dutch, swedish etc pop up. |
| 17:50.36 | fLUx_ | what shouldnt I do when Im playing, which will anoy vet players? |
| 17:50.50 | fLUx_ | dont wanna get a bad rep within the first hour lol |
| 17:50.51 | Zeal | the server languages are really just to point at the recommended language and what language support will be provided in. |
| 17:51.00 | Zeal | er.. don't ask for money |
| 17:51.13 | fLUx_ | is that about it/ |
| 17:51.26 | fLUx_ | *? |
| 17:51.39 | Zeal | er.. don't spam in chat or try to carry a conversation in /yell :p |
| 17:51.43 | Teomyr | read quest texts |
| 17:54.29 | fLUx_ | btw...sorry im asking so many questions lol |
| 17:54.50 | Zeal | np |
| 18:04.01 | fLUx_ | Anyone know if the trial version of the game which you can download, is the full game? aka if I download now, and install, i can just pop my cd-key in when I get my retail copy, and unlock the full game? |
| 18:04.28 | Zeal | don't really know much about the trial, sorry : / |
| 18:05.55 | Kirkburn|afk | The trial is indeed the full game |
| 18:06.01 | beeyatch | it is. 100%. |
| 18:06.07 | beeyatch | its trial by the used serial. |
| 18:06.16 | beeyatch | for the account. |
| 18:06.24 | fLUx_ | oh nice....thanks! :D |
| 18:06.29 | Kirkburn|afk | If you need to dl a copy of WoW, that's how Blizz recommend you do it |
| 18:06.40 | beeyatch | fLUx_: and if you need the last patch => http://www.patchitbaby.com :o) |
| 18:06.42 | Kirkburn|afk | They don't advertise it overtly, as it would be a lot of bandwidth |
| 18:07.20 | fLUx_ | is downloading patches off patchitbaby.com ok? |
| 18:07.22 | beeyatch | Kirkburn|afk: like with the patches. They better do it by torrent. |
| 18:07.32 | Kirkburn|afk | indeededly |
| 18:07.33 | beeyatch | fLUx_: its my site. :) |
| 18:07.59 | fLUx_ | oh ok lol thanks! ;) |
| 18:08.10 | beeyatch | fLUx_: does the site not look like a trustworthy one? :) |
| 18:08.50 | fLUx_ | well, I would guess theres loads of unoffical patches which blizzard would be happy to ban you over lol |
| 18:09.21 | beeyatch | jeha... true. but these are official. |
| 18:09.54 | fLUx_ | yeh, lol, guess I will trust you !:P |
| 18:09.58 | fLUx_ | *! :P |
| 18:10.04 | Hobinheim | i would personally not ever use a patch mirror |
| 18:10.06 | Hobinheim | ever |
| 18:10.13 | Hobinheim | it's dangerous |
| 18:12.20 | Zeal | if it's just the same torrent as blizzard, and their tracker, it's fine. |
| 18:12.26 | Zeal | if not, i wouldn't |
| 18:12.53 | Zeal | i generally never noticed a speed difference with the blizz downloader and better torrent clients. |
| 18:14.41 | Hobinheim | do damage meters help you become a better player? |
| 18:14.52 | Zeal | rofl |
| 18:14.56 | Hobinheim | i'm serious |
| 18:14.58 | Hobinheim | i've never used them |
| 18:15.04 | Hobinheim | and i'm wondering if it will help be me a better dps class |
| 18:15.18 | Zeal | er.. not really, unless you're that disalusioned to how much damage you do. |
| 18:15.19 | Hobinheim | i'm also curious at calling people out for not carrying their weight |
| 18:15.31 | Zeal | oh |
| 18:15.37 | Zeal | its fun for seeing whos slacking |
| 18:15.54 | Zeal | as a gl i would use it, and possibly enforece it's use just for that. |
| 18:16.00 | Zeal | but otherwise, nope. |
| 18:16.33 | Zeal | when you see your pet (hunter) out damaging a mage, you know they're slacking ;) |
| 18:17.07 | Hobinheim | hmm i dunno if its worth it... =/ |
| 18:18.17 | Zeal | not to toot my own horn, but i didn't realize how good i was until i started using it >_>; |
| 18:18.17 | Zeal | in comparison to my guild at least. |
| 18:18.17 | Hobinheim | damage meters? |
| 18:18.19 | Zeal | yuup |
| 18:18.54 | fLUx_ | How will The Burning Crusade addon to the current wow? will they be 2 different games (you have to exit one to play the other), or will players be able to move from TBC to normal, if they have tbc installed, of course? |
| 18:18.56 | Zeal | didn't make me change how i play, just made me realize i was doing great. |
| 18:19.21 | Kirkburn|afk | TBC is a just WoW + Outland |
| 18:19.37 | Kirkburn|afk | They are not different games, TBC just allows you to do more |
| 18:19.37 | Zeal | currently unknown for sure fLUx_, but assumidl TBC will patch straight over WoW and also handle a fresh install of WoW.# |
| 18:19.39 | Hobinheim | it might turn into a new e-peen |
| 18:19.51 | Hobinheim | it's sort of like... an unlocking key |
| 18:19.51 | Zeal | *assumidly |
| 18:20.04 | Kirkburn|afk | Getting TBC 'unlocks' the area |
| 18:20.05 | Hobinheim | the key that lets you go to outland, roll a blood elf or draenei, and level to 70 |
| 18:20.19 | Hobinheim | oh and jewelcraft, right? |
| 18:20.25 | Hobinheim | are sockets allowed on non bc? |
| 18:20.31 | Zeal | Well TBC will upgrade you existing account and patch the expansion-specific content in. |
| 18:20.32 | Hobinheim | i'm confused =( |
| 18:20.49 | Kirkburn|afk | So even if you've got an install of TBC, you can play a non-upgraded account on it |
| 18:21.07 | Zeal | more than likely |
| 18:21.09 | Kirkburn|afk | You just can't do everything that a TBC account can |
| 18:21.18 | Zeal | and Hobinheim, i don;t think there are any pre-60 socket items |
| 18:21.22 | Hobinheim | ok |
| 18:21.29 | Kirkburn|afk | Except possibly crafted stuff? |
| 18:21.36 | Zeal | yeah, even then |
| 18:21.42 | Zeal | i can;t recall seeing any :s |
| 18:21.47 | Hobinheim | ok jewelcrafting usable by everyone, only learnable to TBC |
| 18:21.50 | Hobinheim | says our wiki |
| 18:22.04 | Zeal | er. usable? |
| 18:22.05 | Kirkburn|afk | And taking the converse - I don't know if a TBC account can play on a normal WoW install, but I doubt it |
| 18:22.20 | Hobinheim | yeah they can |
| 18:22.27 | fLUx_ | is it worth me getting tbc in the next few weeks? or should i just stick to the main game for now? |
| 18:22.29 | Hobinheim | i'm almost positive |
| 18:22.30 | Kirkburn|afk | Not if they're in Outland, surely |
| 18:22.40 | Kirkburn|afk | fLUx_, get it! :) |
| 18:22.41 | Zeal | that would be wrong on the wiki then. you can't use anything you can't learn. it jsut means you can wear/use what is crafted. |
| 18:22.45 | Hobinheim | it should just download the data then |
| 18:22.52 | Hobinheim | personally, i would stick to the main game first |
| 18:22.55 | Hobinheim | you might hate wow, who knows |
| 18:23.00 | Hobinheim | you can always buy later =) |
| 18:23.08 | Kirkburn|afk | This is true |
| 18:24.09 | Hobinheim | uhh |
| 18:24.09 | Hobinheim | i can use potions you create for me |
| 18:24.09 | Hobinheim | i can wear unbound things you create for me |
| 18:24.09 | Hobinheim | i can play with a leather ball |
| 18:24.09 | Zeal | yeah, use potions, but you can;t use alchemy :P |
| 18:24.09 | Hobinheim | i can do the hokey pokey |
| 18:24.12 | Zeal | you can use the results, not the proffesion. wiki wording should be corrected. |
| 18:24.27 | Zeal | i'd imagine it meant to say anyone can use socketing. |
| 18:24.42 | Hobinheim | i think we're getting confused in word usage |
| 18:24.48 | Hobinheim | cuz you're essentially saying the same thing i meant |
| 18:24.49 | Hobinheim | i think |
| 18:24.50 | Hobinheim | w/e |
| 18:24.52 | Zeal | nope |
| 18:24.53 | Zeal | lol |
| 18:25.12 | Kirkburn|afk | Hobinheim, but can you 'turn around' |
| 18:25.19 | Zeal | "ok jewelcrafting usable by everyone, only learnable to TBC" :p |
| 18:25.36 | Kirkburn|afk | Cause I can do that _and_ hokey pokey :) |
| 18:25.39 | Hobinheim | no... i can't. i never learned how to... turn left. |
| 18:25.44 | Zeal | jewelcrafting != socketing. |
| 18:26.04 | Zeal | thne turn right, lots. |
| 18:26.15 | Kirkburn|afk | Anyone can socket an item, no? |
| 18:26.19 | Zeal | mhm |
| 18:26.33 | Kirkburn|afk | Er, yeah, duh, I even did it myself |
| 18:26.40 | Zeal | lol |
| 18:26.44 | beeyatch | Hobinheim: you never ever use a patchmirror? |
| 18:26.46 | beeyatch | wow |
| 18:26.56 | Kirkburn|afk | There was a guy in Honor Hold selling nice gems |
| 18:27.12 | Hobinheim | nvver |
| 18:27.20 | Hobinheim | i would never trust my computer to someone else like that |
| 18:27.23 | Hobinheim | i mean blizzard is already ehhh |
| 18:27.33 | Hobinheim | there was a scare on the sa forums, so... |
| 18:27.34 | Zeal | i've only used them twice, and this was early patch days. they weren't mirrors, just trackers for blizz's torrent. |
| 18:27.35 | Kirkburn|afk | My housemate went to the second HFC instance and got a socketed leggings that (when filled) would have been better than his Tier 2 legs! |
| 18:27.58 | Hobinheim | oh yeah? well i socketed my voidwalker and he can two shot you LOLZ! |
| 18:28.01 | Zeal | nice Kirkburn|afk |
| 18:28.05 | Kirkburn|afk | Hobinheim, there's being wary, and there just being silly :P |
| 18:28.07 | Zeal | lol |
| 18:28.30 | Kirkburn|afk | If you're worried about the data you're downloading, you can try doing hash checks |
| 18:28.51 | Kirkburn|afk | He was level 61, and, uh, silly annoyed =) |
| 18:28.53 | Zeal | there's getting a keylogger and theres being patient :P |
| 18:28.55 | Kirkburn|afk | *slightly |
| 18:29.32 | Zeal | i got get people's gripe with the item's |
| 18:29.49 | beeyatch | Yes, Kirkburn is right. blizz should put some official hashs so people can compare. |
| 18:29.56 | Zeal | i've never played and mmo properly prior to wow, and it makes perfect sense to me. |
| 18:30.12 | Zeal | *an |
| 18:30.25 | Zeal | *i don't get |
| 18:32.27 | Zeal | think i've done enough icon uploading today.. |
| 18:32.35 | Kirkburn|afk | Jesus, that's a lot of icons |
| 18:32.38 | beeyatch | any idea of much money a blizz gm is earning per month? :o |
| 18:32.44 | Hobinheim | anyone use elkano's buff bar? |
| 18:32.48 | Hobinheim | it's so... annoying |
| 18:32.51 | beeyatch | s/of/how/ |
| 18:32.55 | Hobinheim | beeyatch, probably not much |
| 18:32.55 | Kirkburn|afk | Zeal, timing! I only just noticed |
| 18:33.10 | Zeal | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:WoW_Icons/Icon_List/BC done all the spells and abilities now, just soem inv left to do :p |
| 18:33.20 | Kirkburn|afk | Probably something about £15,000 at a guess |
| 18:33.32 | Zeal | though that lsit needs to be edited |
| 18:33.40 | Zeal | and i can't cos it's too big.. |
| 18:33.48 | Zeal | >_o |
| 18:34.10 | Zeal | ie craps out and refuses to load the wiki after a few tries. |
| 18:34.39 | Kirkburn|afk | :/ |
| 18:34.58 | Zeal | i'mma try ff. |
| 18:35.05 | beeyatch | i recived an mail from melissa meyer, Producer, Core Technologies of Blizzard Entertainment |
| 18:35.09 | beeyatch | anyone knows her? |
| 18:35.43 | Kirkburn|afk | Zeal, I can load it fine in IE7 ... |
| 18:35.50 | Kirkburn|afk | beeyatch, nope |
| 18:36.15 | beeyatch | to bad |
| 18:36.25 | Kirkburn|afk | mmeyer@blizzard.com? |
| 18:36.35 | beeyatch | Kirkburn|afk: right |
| 18:36.35 | Kirkburn|afk | Just did a google on her |
| 18:36.41 | beeyatch | good idea |
| 18:37.23 | Kirkburn|afk | An interview on WarCry, a profile page |
| 18:37.35 | beeyatch | found her on xing |
| 18:37.37 | beeyatch | i will add her |
| 18:38.18 | Zeal | ok.. i can;t even view the page with FF |
| 18:38.37 | Zeal | load Kirkburn|afk? i meant edit it. i can;t submit the edit. |
| 18:38.45 | Zeal | *i can't edit |
| 18:38.47 | Kirkburn|afk | :/ |
| 18:38.59 | Zeal | in FF i get unresponsive script error jsut trying to view the list.. gg : / |
| 18:39.25 | Hobinheim | what are ocb and ora? |
| 18:39.27 | beeyatch | I wonder how many else mirror sites recived this mail from melissa. |
| 18:39.34 | Kirkburn|afk | Zeal, worked for me! |
| 18:39.44 | Kirkburn|afk | oCB is a casting bar replacement (v good) |
| 18:39.52 | Kirkburn|afk | oRA is a raid assistant |
| 18:40.41 | Zeal | well i dunno why |
| 18:40.42 | Hobinheim | i never understood what's so special about casting bars |
| 18:40.50 | Hobinheim | like the one in aguf or the stock one aren't good enough? |
| 18:40.52 | Zeal | can onyl assume its a FF plugin dying from the page size.. |
| 18:40.53 | Kirkburn|afk | Cause the default one is shite? :) |
| 18:41.07 | Kirkburn|afk | People like to customize :P |
| 18:41.18 | Zeal | casting bars? |
| 18:41.19 | Hobinheim | i just like all my shit tucked away |
| 18:41.23 | Hobinheim | i want the game to look cinematic |
| 18:41.33 | *** join/#wowwiki Patrigan-Syldra (n=iron_pla@123.55-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 18:41.38 | Zeal | the progression bar for casting? |
| 18:41.40 | Patrigan-Syldra | started working on the tabards |
| 18:41.46 | Zeal | does it's job.. default one is fine imo. |
| 18:41.47 | Kirkburn|afk | Haste (the coder of them) used to have them on the ace svn, but they've moved to his own site now (called "fuxsake") |
| 18:41.55 | Patrigan-Syldra | Image:ScoutTabardOrc.jpg can anyone delete that one, it's a highly unuseful picture anyways... |
| 18:42.10 | Kirkburn|afk | Hobinheim, that's the point, people can customize to make it less obvious :P |
| 18:42.14 | Patrigan-Syldra | I've added Image:Scout's_Tabard.jpg |
| 18:42.29 | Kirkburn|afk | Links are better, please |
| 18:42.35 | Patrigan-Syldra | http://www.wowwiki.com/Scout%27s_Tabard |
| 18:42.45 | Patrigan-Syldra | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:ScoutTabardOrc.jpg |
| 18:42.48 | Patrigan-Syldra | can be deleted ^^ |
| 18:43.01 | Kirkburn|afk | Sorted |
| 18:43.15 | Patrigan-Syldra | I added pictures for Scout's Private's Knight's and Stone Guards |
| 18:43.22 | Patrigan-Syldra | Will fix every other picture soon |
| 18:43.27 | Patrigan-Syldra | and afterwards I'll fix the page iself |
| 18:43.35 | Patrigan-Syldra | god bless wowmodelviewer ^^ |
| 18:43.37 | Zeal | hey Patrigan-Syldra |
| 18:43.45 | Patrigan-Syldra | hey Zeal |
| 18:44.45 | Zeal | Kirkburn|afk, it's show changes that fails, it just finishes with a blank done page. |
| 18:44.53 | Zeal | asume it's too much for the wiki to handle. |
| 18:45.18 | Zeal | and now i'm probably shut out of the wiki again.. *sigh* |
| 18:45.30 | Patrigan-Syldra | lol, what are you doing? |
| 18:46.51 | Zeal | woops.. |
| 18:46.54 | Zeal | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:WoW_Icons/Icon_List/BC |
| 18:47.03 | Kirkburn|afk | Patrigan-Syldra, don't bless it too much, we shouldn't really be using it :) Only in cases where it's really useful, and much better than an in-game shot |
| 18:47.07 | Zeal | i did images links.. forgot the : >_o |
| 18:47.15 | Hobinheim | anyone use skype? |
| 18:47.30 | equiraptor | My boyfriend uses it for work. |
| 18:48.00 | Kirkburn|afk | I once had it installed, but hardly used it |
| 18:48.28 | Patrigan-Syldra | Kirkburn|afk |
| 18:48.38 | Patrigan-Syldra | doesn't the picture I created look a hell lot better? |
| 18:48.43 | Patrigan-Syldra | shows the tabard really nicely ^^ |
| 18:49.03 | Zeal | never saw the point or need for skype : / |
| 18:49.04 | Patrigan-Syldra | Plus it allows easy pictures of hard to get items like Exalted rep awards |
| 18:49.11 | Patrigan-Syldra | SKype can be good actually |
| 18:49.15 | Patrigan-Syldra | my sister uses it |
| 18:49.24 | Patrigan-Syldra | you'll get a sound when you're being called |
| 18:49.37 | Kirkburn|afk | equiraptor, you're a 'silly little flying horse'? =) |
| 18:49.44 | Zeal | vent, ts2 for voice comms, own isp for phone calls. |
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| 18:50.21 | Patrigan-Syldra | woohoo 320 edits ^^ |
| 18:50.25 | Patrigan-Syldra | getting there! |
| 18:51.14 | Kirkburn|afk | Who else has their own websites? :P |
| 18:51.15 | equiraptor | My boyfriend's coworkers are convinced skype is the best way to make phone calls. |
| 18:51.20 | Patrigan-Syldra | I do Kirk |
| 18:51.20 | Zeal | me |
| 18:51.24 | Patrigan-Syldra | though it's down atm >< |
| 18:51.32 | equiraptor | He hates it. They're just not used to making phone calls with the asterisk system he set up for them. |
| 18:51.41 | Zeal | not that they're doing anything atm.. |
| 18:52.16 | equiraptor | Yeah, I don't really do much with equiraptor.com:80 |
| 18:52.28 | equiraptor | All the good stuff is :22, :25, etc. |
| 18:52.32 | Teomyr | skype + sip would be awesome, but that probably won't happen :( |
| 18:52.37 | *** mode/#wowwiki [+o Tekkub] by ChanServ |
| 18:53.26 | Zeal | wb :p |
| 18:53.29 | Kirkburn|afk | equiraptor, nice (broken?) car |
| 18:53.49 | equiraptor | Yeah, it's been broken a lot the past two weeks. |
| 18:53.54 | equiraptor | I have it back now, though, it seems to be fine. |
| 18:53.56 | equiraptor | And thanks. :) |
| 18:54.03 | Kirkburn|afk | woo |
| 18:54.44 | equiraptor | I'm actually planning on getting rid of it. |
| 18:55.08 | equiraptor | I want to have the same done to a third gen MX-5. They're far better balanced than the first. |
| 18:56.25 | Kirkburn|afk | Closest I've got to driving a nice car is in Need For Speed. A Ford Fiesta doesn't exactly count :/ |
| 18:56.57 | equiraptor | Pout. |
| 18:57.19 | equiraptor | I'm hoping to manage to drive a 911 carrera s soonish... |
| 18:57.31 | Kirkburn|afk | nice |
| 18:57.40 | Kirkburn|afk | Soooo not fair :P |
| 18:57.47 | equiraptor | :-P |
| 18:58.07 | Kirkburn|afk | (wow, I just used 'nice' three times. I'd better go read the dictionary) |
| 18:58.57 | equiraptor | Awwww |
| 18:59.33 | equiraptor | Jewelcrafting seems quite nice. |
| 18:59.57 | equiraptor | I think I'm really going to enjoy having the new profession to level and learn. |
| 19:00.36 | Kirkburn|afk | equiraptor, yeah, me too |
| 19:00.51 | equiraptor | Wow. The Brilliant Necklace seems great. |
| 19:00.56 | equiraptor | http://thottbot.com/beta?i=14368 |
| 19:01.01 | Kirkburn|afk | Argh, half the cheese from my pizza escaped through a hole in the middle :( |
| 19:01.11 | Patrigan-Syldra | oO |
| 19:01.14 | Patrigan-Syldra | Wha? |
| 19:01.20 | Patrigan-Syldra | It ran away through the hole? oO |
| 19:01.31 | Hobinheim | a hole? |
| 19:01.34 | Patrigan-Syldra | that's... |
| 19:01.39 | Patrigan-Syldra | logical... |
| 19:01.44 | Hobinheim | what kind of pizza do they serve over there? |
| 19:01.45 | Patrigan-Syldra | I think >.> |
| 19:01.54 | Kirkburn|afk | Really. It was too thin and stuck to my plate :P |
| 19:01.57 | Patrigan-Syldra | Pizza's with a hole in, smartypants! |
| 19:02.17 | Kirkburn|afk | Damn nice pizza though |
| 19:02.39 | Patrigan-Syldra | and all the cheese saw it's chance to avoid being stuffed into Kirkburn|afk his mouth and ran into the hole... |
| 19:02.45 | Patrigan-Syldra | I would do that too actrually, if I was that cheese... |
| 19:03.06 | Kirkburn|afk | Don't worry, it failed. |
| 19:03.15 | Patrigan-Syldra | Aw, I was really voting for the cheese :< |
| 19:03.58 | Kirkburn|afk | :( |
| 19:04.52 | Hobinheim | anyone use metamap? |
| 19:05.16 | Kirkburn|afk | Cartographer for me :P |
| 19:05.46 | Patrigan-Syldra | http://www.wowwiki.com/Trading_Card_Game and http://www.wowwiki.com/TCG and http://www.wowwiki.com/CCG and http://www.wowwiki.com/Collectible_Card_Game and http://www.wowwiki.com/Customizable_Card_Game |
| 19:05.50 | Patrigan-Syldra | DELETE THEM! |
| 19:06.04 | Patrigan-Syldra | they're not wow related |
| 19:06.17 | Patrigan-Syldra | redirect to http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_Trading_Card_Game ^^ |
| 19:06.18 | Kirkburn|afk | ... |
| 19:06.27 | Kirkburn|afk | lol |
| 19:06.31 | Kirkburn|afk | Do it. |
| 19:06.39 | Patrigan-Syldra | oh, yeah, I can do redirects myself XD |
| 19:09.36 | Patrigan-Syldra | that's fixed |
| 19:09.51 | Patrigan-Syldra | I don't understand why we have all that glossary anyways... |
| 19:10.03 | Patrigan-Syldra | if people search for that word, they most probably alrdy know what it means XD |
| 19:20.58 | Kirkburn|afk | I don't think there should be separate glossary articles for terms, they should just redirect |
| 19:23.36 | Patrigan-Syldra | idd |
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| 19:28.56 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Eternals |
| 19:28.58 | Bagginsww | grr :p |
| 19:34.54 | Angelic | Good evening |
| 19:35.18 | Angelic | Anyone knows is there a freemonth when you buy tbc? |
| 19:35.18 | Hobinheim | what's a minimalist alternative to autobar |
| 19:37.17 | Bagginsww | angelic that's a good question |
| 19:37.23 | Bagginsww | I haven't heard anything |
| 19:37.42 | Bagginsww | snickers if its "Only if you buy collector's" |
| 19:38.13 | Angelic | I heard you need to pay your account in order to activate TBC |
| 19:38.13 | Angelic | Maybe thats the catch :( |
| 19:38.15 | Angelic | Or maybe it will be like the wow itself.. free month after you activate a gamecard |
| 19:38.15 | Bagginsww | I've already payed for my account upwards 6 months. |
| 19:38.21 | Angelic | Lucky you.. |
| 19:38.33 | Bagginsww | they better not charge me again LOL |
| 19:38.44 | Angelic | After 2 months, I'm counting coins to pay it, and I'm always scared if they will be enough |
| 19:38.52 | Angelic | :') |
| 19:38.52 | Bagginsww | I know the feeling |
| 19:39.06 | Angelic | Those money are way too much for my country, but still.. |
| 19:39.28 | Bagginsww | I only play because I have relatives who willing to pay for the game as a kind of "gift" |
| 19:39.41 | Bagginsww | this means I don't get much for my bday or christmas |
| 19:40.00 | Bagginsww | not sure what's going to happen next year when I head off to university |
| 19:40.06 | Angelic | Same for me |
| 19:40.19 | Angelic | I dont play nouse cause of university exams |
| 19:40.22 | Angelic | Gonna join feb |
| 19:40.23 | Bagginsww | it helps that I'm currently in public college |
| 19:40.29 | *** part/#wowwiki Hobinheim (n=Hobinhei@c-69-142-120-32.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 19:40.34 | equiraptor | I ask for needs for b-day and christmas, and spend my money on toys. |
| 19:40.48 | equiraptor | Horrible, ain't I? ;) |
| 19:41.02 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 19:41.49 | equiraptor | But, hey, my needs are all things my family knows how to buy. My toys, they don't. |
| 19:42.16 | Bagginsww | that makes sense |
| 19:42.26 | Bagginsww | I usually get a few "needs" for christmas |
| 19:42.30 | Bagginsww | only few gifts I get |
| 19:43.11 | Bagginsww | often I get one DS, PC or console game for my b-day |
| 19:43.18 | Bagginsww | of my choice |
| 19:43.27 | Bagginsww | so I generally don't get to unwrap it |
| 19:43.34 | equiraptor | Aw. |
| 19:43.44 | equiraptor | My parents' got me TBC for christmas this year... |
| 19:43.48 | Bagginsww | cause they don't know to get for me otherwise LOL |
| 19:43.51 | equiraptor | And my mom wants me to have something to unwrap... |
| 19:44.08 | equiraptor | So she printed out a bunch of screenshots and put them in a box, then wrapped the box. |
| 19:44.13 | Bagginsww | closest I get for an unwrap is a bday card |
| 19:44.24 | Bagginsww | unless they find something they think I'll like |
| 19:44.39 | Bagginsww | fun |
| 19:44.40 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 19:44.48 | equiraptor | Right. One of my mother's surprize gifts to me this christmas was burnt orange fingernail polish. |
| 19:44.51 | Bagginsww | was it covered in peanuts? |
| 19:45.09 | Bagginsww | the pictures I mean |
| 19:45.16 | equiraptor | Which seems ridiculous, but I went to the university of texas - colors burnt orange and white. And burnt orange is... Hard to find. |
| 19:45.21 | equiraptor | No, just in a box. :) |
| 19:45.34 | Bagginsww | I love to do gag giftboxes big boxes to small boxes with plenty of peantuts/popcorn in between |
| 19:45.41 | Bagginsww | until you reach the small gift at the center |
| 19:46.06 | equiraptor | Yeah. Mom doesn't have that kind of a sense of humor. |
| 19:46.11 | Bagginsww | In lew of not having lots of gifts to unwrap that gets them ;) |
| 19:46.17 | equiraptor | But she wraps just about everything in Kleenex boxes. |
| 19:46.39 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 19:46.44 | equiraptor | So you unwrap, find the box, have no clue, and get to unwrap again. |
| 19:46.53 | Bagginsww | heh heh |
| 19:47.32 | equiraptor | I want to make a phantom blade for my rogue, but I lack some of the mats and can't find them on the AH. |
| 19:47.52 | Bagginsww | this year for christmas I picked out New Super Mario for DS with my dad, had him sneak it to be wrapped so that my mom wouldn't know I chose it. |
| 19:48.05 | Bagginsww | so I at least had something to unwrap |
| 19:48.28 | Bagginsww | my mom got me a hamberger cookbook |
| 19:48.34 | Bagginsww | as she knows I like to BBQ |
| 19:48.49 | Bagginsww | so definitely a gift I'll enjoy |
| 19:51.22 | Bagginsww | at least I didn't have to feign surprise for that one LOL |
| 19:56.37 | Bagginsww | so I think it sabout time we create a seperate article for Saayad |
| 19:56.49 | Bagginsww | as we know know other class titles other than "saccubus" |
| 19:56.53 | Bagginsww | "Anguisher" |
| 19:57.08 | Bagginsww | this way saccubus can be kept on its own page |
| 19:57.12 | Bagginsww | *succubus |
| 19:57.25 | Bagginsww | and we can then discuss the race as a whole |
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| 20:40.37 | beeyatch | oww |
| 20:40.41 | beeyatch | its down? |
| 20:41.03 | Zeal | not down, timing out. |
| 20:41.10 | beeyatch | i always notice if its down or slow. Less visits on my site :p |
| 20:41.20 | Zeal | my watchlist is working, very slowly, but nothing else : / |
| 20:41.37 | beeyatch | i added a little cron checking the refs for wowwiki. and if there is non since the last 15 it generates an email. lol |
| 20:41.56 | beeyatch | s/15/15 mins/ |
| 20:41.57 | Zeal | er.. ok lol |
| 20:42.06 | Zeal | gunna go make food then... |
| 20:42.20 | beeyatch | lol :o) |
| 20:42.35 | beeyatch | sounds good. what you konna cook? |
| 20:42.57 | beeyatch | gonna |
| 20:50.10 | Zeal | thai sweet chili chicken with noodles. |
| 20:50.23 | Kirkburn|afk | ~coconuts |
| 20:50.26 | infobot | I've got a lovely bunch of coconuts, there they are all standing in a row. Big ones, small ones, some as big as your head, give them a twist, a flick of the wrist, that's what the showman said! |
| 20:50.57 | Zeal | ~? |
| 20:51.25 | beeyatch | Zeal: sounds like my girl do some cooking :) |
| 20:51.42 | Zeal | rofl |
| 20:51.53 | beeyatch | she is half thai and makes best asian food ever :P |
| 20:51.59 | Zeal | no sure what you meant by that, but i'm a guy, and i enjoy cooking :p |
| 20:52.01 | Zeal | ah kk |
| 20:52.15 | beeyatch | lol :o) |
| 20:53.04 | Zeal | i love asian food too |
| 20:53.32 | Apollozeus | wtf is up with the site? |
| 20:54.29 | beeyatch | Zeal: i love my girl :) |
| 20:54.55 | beeyatch | Apollozeus: jeha you know... server and stuff |
| 20:55.17 | Apollozeus | k |
| 20:55.28 | Apollozeus | down for scheduled maintenance? :p |
| 20:55.44 | beeyatch | i hope rustak will responds to my email. |
| 20:56.10 | beeyatch | i asked him about some kind of mirror related stuff. |
| 20:56.46 | Zeal | vlad_ = rustak fyi |
| 20:57.07 | Zeal | chopsticks ftw |
| 20:57.18 | beeyatch | :) |
| 20:57.21 | beeyatch | pmed. thanks |
| 20:58.39 | Zeal | np |
| 20:58.51 | Zeal | just don't a reply anytime soon i'm guessing :p |
| 20:58.58 | Zeal | *expect a |
| 20:59.14 | beeyatch | ahh its ok... i used to talk to busy people :p |
| 20:59.52 | Kirkburn|afk | ~clown |
| 20:59.53 | infobot | Honk! Honk! You win a clown scholarship! <purl twirls her bowtie> |
| 21:00.05 | Zeal | O_o |
| 21:00.09 | Apollozeus | w |
| 21:00.09 | Apollozeus | t |
| 21:00.10 | Apollozeus | f |
| 21:00.11 | Apollozeus | XD |
| 21:00.21 | Apollozeus | anyway |
| 21:00.41 | Apollozeus | the most interesting part of that sentence is that infobot reveals itself to be female |
| 21:01.03 | Zeal | lol |
| 21:01.40 | Apollozeus | eww |
| 21:01.41 | Apollozeus | D" |
| 21:01.43 | Apollozeus | D: |
| 21:02.16 | beeyatch | ahhh... to bad... |
| 21:02.21 | beeyatch | she is to old :/ |
| 21:02.28 | Zeal | god trying to sort out the inventory icons is hell.. |
| 21:02.43 | beeyatch | to good i dont play wow :o |
| 21:03.03 | Apollozeus | then what are you doing in here? o.O |
| 21:03.14 | Zeal | lol |
| 21:03.20 | beeyatch | i am doing services for addicted people. |
| 21:03.30 | Apollozeus | err...lol? |
| 21:03.40 | beeyatch | like those... which get in hurry on a patch day... and bother for sites where to get them faster as by torrent... |
| 21:03.46 | Zeal | you don't run that wow addict recovery site do you..? |
| 21:03.47 | beeyatch | and... here we come. i own such a site :p |
| 21:03.57 | Zeal | ah kk |
| 21:04.02 | beeyatch | Zeal: there is one? omg i was going to create one |
| 21:04.06 | Zeal | haha |
| 21:04.09 | beeyatch | before i noticed i better start patches first |
| 21:04.19 | Apollozeus | there was something called "Wow widows" |
| 21:04.36 | Zeal | wow orphans XD |
| 21:04.42 | Apollozeus | rofl, for moms |
| 21:04.59 | Apollozeus | I saw a short documentary on that |
| 21:05.12 | Apollozeus | some australian woman cried her lungs out D: |
| 21:05.21 | Apollozeus | just because she couldn't keep her son from playing Wow |
| 21:05.27 | beeyatch | nice. |
| 21:05.41 | beeyatch | may i will start such a site after i finished my current project. |
| 21:05.41 | Zeal | hm.. that might have been the one TB showed in his lecture. |
| 21:05.41 | beeyatch | :p |
| 21:05.43 | *** join/#wowwiki amro (n=amro@82.101.184.147) |
| 21:05.43 | Apollozeus | no, it was damn silly |
| 21:05.48 | Fin | what's your site, bee? |
| 21:06.00 | Apollozeus | if her parenthood meant anything, she could have stopped him |
| 21:06.05 | beeyatch | http://www.patchitbaby.com and http://www.wow-patches.info |
| 21:06.31 | Zeal | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5327497459334792260 that's the lecture i was talking about btw |
| 21:06.52 | Zeal | http://wowdetox.com/ :p |
| 21:07.10 | beeyatch | Fin: i know... these sites are kind of overloaded with ads... but well... |
| 21:08.53 | Zeal | running ruby on rails, already good start in my books :P |
| 21:09.01 | beeyatch | jeha :) |
| 21:09.25 | beeyatch | thanks :) |
| 21:09.37 | beeyatch | i switched to ruby and rails a coupl of months ago. |
| 21:09.44 | Zeal | gd ga :p |
| 21:09.44 | beeyatch | i turned my back against php. |
| 21:09.50 | Zeal | *gd gd |
| 21:10.10 | Zeal | rightly so. |
| 21:10.42 | beeyatch | currently have like 3 rails sites online and i currently work on the next one :) |
| 21:10.45 | Zeal | now if only mediawiki did that.. lol |
| 21:11.19 | beeyatch | Zeal: you work with rails too? |
| 21:12.07 | Zeal | i had started to, had someone more knowledable teachining me while we worked on a project together. |
| 21:12.15 | Zeal | i never did get my hands dirty with it though. |
| 21:12.33 | beeyatch | well if you ever feel lazy just catch me up ;) |
| 21:12.40 | Zeal | lol |
| 21:12.50 | beeyatch | :p |
| 21:13.42 | beeyatch | well well... |
| 21:14.11 | beeyatch | patchitbaby holds 30k unique visits a day and up to 80k impressions without a buzz |
| 21:14.22 | beeyatch | never thought it will make out that great :) |
| 21:14.24 | Zeal | i'm not a coder, i merely dabble to get by. my interests are more in design, both visual and system. |
| 21:14.42 | beeyatch | Zeal: design? Show me something :) |
| 21:16.54 | Apollozeus | but... beeyatch |
| 21:17.01 | beeyatch | Apollozeus: yes? here! |
| 21:17.07 | Zeal | er.. yeah. main thing, is i never finish anything, lol. http://www.zealvurte.co.uk/temp/ stuff in there i guess. |
| 21:17.09 | Angelic | Doh, anyone knows if we can exchange us game cards for EU ? |
| 21:17.11 | Apollozeus | those patches.. they're kinda big... you must have a lot of bandwidth? |
| 21:17.27 | beeyatch | Apollozeus: up to 5TB per month. |
| 21:17.37 | beeyatch | http://trancy.iextreme.org:81/mrtg/trancy.iextreme.org_3.html |
| 21:17.43 | Apollozeus | http://www.zealvurte.co.uk/temp/judge_metzen.jpg <-- XD |
| 21:17.46 | beeyatch | see? :) |
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| 21:18.12 | Zeal | lol apollo |
| 21:18.17 | Apollozeus | I see |
| 21:18.33 | Apollozeus | beeyatch lol, it is obvious what day the patch day was.. :P |
| 21:18.50 | beeyatch | Apollozeus: *smile* jeh :) |
| 21:19.09 | beeyatch | 2.0.1 patchday used 8TB traffic in 3 days |
| 21:19.15 | beeyatch | i was like... OMG... :o |
| 21:19.22 | beeyatch | but still survived... he :) |
| 21:19.36 | Apollozeus | you've got unlimited bandwidth? |
| 21:19.43 | beeyatch | Apollozeus: nah |
| 21:19.53 | beeyatch | i am balancing between a few servers. |
| 21:20.24 | Zeal | wiki back up? |
| 21:20.29 | Zeal | yay |
| 21:20.37 | beeyatch | i had a unlimited server once... (for 2.0.1 patchday) but the isp canceld the contract due to massive abusement :o |
| 21:20.48 | beeyatch | i used 90mbits the whole day... and they was pissed :p |
| 21:20.53 | Apollozeus | haha |
| 21:20.58 | Zeal | lol |
| 21:21.02 | Apollozeus | kinda cheap |
| 21:21.11 | beeyatch | http://www.monitorserver.de/traffic.png |
| 21:21.14 | Apollozeus | when they say it's unlimited, they can't claim there was 'abuse' |
| 21:21.15 | Apollozeus | :p |
| 21:21.29 | beeyatch | the shut it off on the 8. :o |
| 21:22.02 | foxlit | It's evil, though. You can have unlimited bandwidth, but you may be required to keep the process load down. |
| 21:22.04 | beeyatch | Apollozeus: there was some "fair use" shitty... |
| 21:22.36 | Angelic | Doh, anyone knows if we can exchange us game cards for EU ? |
| 21:22.46 | Zeal | well thankfully a friend i've had since school runs his own hosting company, so i get free hosting, heh. |
| 21:23.02 | beeyatch | Zeal: feel free to mirror for patchitbaby :p |
| 21:23.20 | Zeal | free to choose not to mirror ;) |
| 21:23.32 | beeyatch | ahh... okay ;) |
| 21:24.28 | Apollozeus | Angelic, I'm afraid I have to give you a negative on that one |
| 21:24.37 | Angelic | Damn ;/ |
| 21:24.47 | beeyatch | Angelic: ebay yours and buy a new one. |
| 21:24.51 | Angelic | Cant blizzard make something, like phocus-mocus |
| 21:24.55 | Angelic | And make them EU? |
| 21:24.57 | Angelic | :) |
| 21:24.59 | Apollozeus | lol |
| 21:25.09 | Apollozeus | well yeah, you could still do beeyatch's suggestion |
| 21:25.13 | Apollozeus | sell it, and buy a new one |
| 21:25.26 | beeyatch | do paypal and make it 1 day or somethhing ;P |
| 21:26.11 | Angelic | Giving away 2 US Cards, needers roll. |
| 21:26.30 | Apollozeus | why did you buy them in the first place, if I may ask |
| 21:26.55 | Angelic | Its not me, its a friend of mine |
| 21:27.03 | Angelic | Who played US.. but camed to Europe now |
| 21:27.08 | Angelic | And still got 2 cards |
| 21:27.14 | beeyatch | Zeal: if you care about desing, what you think about this one?: http://www.alternative-visions.de/easyznb/ |
| 21:27.22 | Angelic | I guess he is selling both his account, and I will consider him ebay those as you said |
| 21:27.30 | Angelic | I never knew how ebay exactly works but |
| 21:27.30 | Angelic | :) |
| 21:27.36 | beeyatch | lol |
| 21:27.48 | Apollozeus | he could still play on american servers |
| 21:27.55 | Apollozeus | if he has the us version of the game |
| 21:28.12 | Angelic | I mean, where is the gurantee the man infront of me will recive the REAL code |
| 21:28.20 | Angelic | And that I willr ecive the money |
| 21:28.21 | Angelic | With ebay? |
| 21:28.22 | Angelic | :) |
| 21:28.42 | beeyatch | oO |
| 21:28.44 | beeyatch | :o |
| 21:28.54 | Angelic | Seems I dont know how it functionate :( |
| 21:28.56 | Zeal | want me to take a blow torch to it or just a quick assessment? :P |
| 21:29.02 | Apollozeus | ... |
| 21:29.03 | Apollozeus | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:IconLarge_Level60.gif |
| 21:29.07 | Apollozeus | you gotta be kidding me |
| 21:29.14 | beeyatch | quick and dirty. |
| 21:29.34 | Angelic | nice img |
| 21:29.45 | amro | nice artwork |
| 21:30.24 | Zeal | well nvm, i did take a few tests of things :P |
| 21:30.44 | Zeal | er, i disliek the design personally, but its fairly well done, scales well enough too. |
| 21:31.17 | beeyatch | Zeal: ahh... functions are not yet live :) |
| 21:31.40 | beeyatch | ah but nvm :) |
| 21:31.41 | beeyatch | thanks |
| 21:32.12 | Zeal | sure |
| 21:32.28 | foxlit | beeyatch: horizontal scroll in IE7 is a bit out of hand |
| 21:32.30 | Zeal | few graphicall issues though fyi ;) |
| 21:33.01 | beeyatch | IE7 damn |
| 21:33.12 | Zeal | actually.. |
| 21:33.13 | beeyatch | i will kill my pixel guy |
| 21:33.17 | Zeal | yes error |
| 21:33.30 | Zeal | window scaling it's not good on |
| 21:34.14 | beeyatch | k |
| 21:34.27 | Zeal | ats not specific to IE7 :p |
| 21:34.29 | beeyatch | my pixel guy is often like "ahh just close your site for the IE" |
| 21:34.34 | beeyatch | :o |
| 21:34.43 | Zeal | same thing happens in FF |
| 21:34.54 | beeyatch | Zeal: what you try? |
| 21:35.14 | Zeal | different window sizes. |
| 21:35.34 | beeyatch | well the table is fixsize |
| 21:35.38 | beeyatch | it needs to be :/ |
| 21:36.18 | Zeal | the table is far too wide for one, and the design is shrinking to the window, so the table flops out of the design, the window scrolls, but the design vanishes when you scroll as it's too small. |
| 21:36.20 | beeyatch | however its ruby :) |
| 21:36.36 | beeyatch | behind the html :p |
| 21:37.16 | Zeal | min-width of design should be geater than or equal to table width. |
| 21:37.19 | Zeal | mhm |
| 21:37.48 | amro | beeyatch: did you get sessions to work with ruby? |
| 21:38.05 | beeyatch | http://80.141.114.183:3000/nzbs/bycategory/19 |
| 21:38.18 | beeyatch | amro: log in as test password testtest |
| 21:39.29 | beeyatch | amro: actually its ruby on rails. running Acts as Authenticated |
| 21:39.38 | beeyatch | for user and permission handling. |
| 21:39.57 | amro | oh |
| 21:39.57 | beeyatch | and yes it does sessions :) |
| 21:40.08 | amro | i was using the CGI class i think |
| 21:40.12 | amro | not very nice |
| 21:40.13 | fLUx_ | hey people |
| 21:40.17 | amro | hey |
| 21:40.19 | fLUx_ | nice site.... |
| 21:40.33 | beeyatch | amro: give rails a try. it realy will change your way of working ;P |
| 21:40.43 | amro | i will |
| 21:40.47 | amro | also, there's a huge empty area to the right |
| 21:40.58 | amro | on konqueror 3.5.5 |
| 21:41.36 | fLUx_ | is the site coded in ruby? |
| 21:41.52 | beeyatch | fLUx_: ye |
| 21:41.52 | beeyatch | but not yet done |
| 21:42.03 | fLUx_ | nice |
| 21:42.09 | Zeal | "background-repeat:repeat-x;" not sure why that's only on .active and not :hover and normal, but it seems it should be on all of them. |
| 21:42.44 | beeyatch | Zeal: thanks i will forward this to the pixel guy ;p |
| 21:42.45 | fLUx_ | best thing ive ever coded is this: http://gamercard.laidbackgamers.net/Major%20Nelson lol |
| 21:42.45 | beeyatch | i stoped doing html stuff on my own. |
| 21:42.53 | Zeal | and i'm assuming it's using javascript preloading on the backgrounds, rather than using the same file and moving it in the css so it's always loaded. |
| 21:43.04 | Zeal | lol, np :P |
| 21:43.32 | beeyatch | :) |
| 21:43.34 | Zeal | Apollozeus, if you found the metzen thing funny, read http://www.zealvurte.co.uk/temp/wow_lore.txt |
| 21:43.50 | Zeal | so much wrong with it now, but at the time it was funny. |
| 21:43.51 | Apollozeus | will do |
| 21:44.05 | beeyatch | why everyone in here is like " oh its coded in ruby?" :p |
| 21:44.10 | beeyatch | still something special hu? :) |
| 21:44.19 | Zeal | and somehow ended up on the official forums and i still get stray links to people reading it :s |
| 21:44.52 | Zeal | not many hosts bother to provide ruby, and even less coders outside the forward thinking ones touch it, sticking to their tradional languages |
| 21:45.08 | beeyatch | brr java... brr php... :o |
| 21:45.08 | Zeal | so yeah, still special. |
| 21:45.50 | beeyatch | cool :) |
| 21:45.59 | Apollozeus | lol.. |
| 21:46.10 | Apollozeus | whoever wrote that sure does paladins |
| 21:46.10 | Apollozeus | Alliance:Why should we trust you? |
| 21:46.10 | Apollozeus | Velen:We are paladins lolz! |
| 21:46.15 | Apollozeus | does hate* |
| 21:47.42 | Zeal | rofl. i wrote it as a joke :P |
| 21:47.50 | Zeal | i love palas :p |
| 21:48.34 | Zeal | zero wing paradoy was win though.. lol |
| 21:48.45 | Zeal | fitted so well :P |
| 21:51.10 | Zeal | oh beeyatch, one last thing. tell mr pixel guy, to add a id to the body of the domain name, that way if users wish, they can change the desing of your site themselves. |
| 21:52.17 | Apollozeus | the zero wing parody has been done many times before |
| 21:52.20 | Zeal | *add an id of the domain name to the body |
| 21:52.28 | Zeal | well duh :p |
| 21:52.37 | Zeal | not from wow though.. lol |
| 21:52.39 | Apollozeus | hmm.. it makes me think though |
| 21:52.56 | Zeal | didn't have spaceships before XP |
| 21:52.58 | Apollozeus | everyone thinks of the draenei as one of these most dignified races |
| 21:53.03 | Apollozeus | but in reality |
| 21:53.18 | Apollozeus | they're only joining the alliance because they want to destroy the burning legion |
| 21:53.26 | Zeal | mhm, this is true |
| 21:53.40 | Zeal | and they're onyl doing that because the naaru brain washed them :P |
| 21:53.44 | beeyatch | Zeal: thanks :) |
| 21:53.46 | Zeal | can all be spinned |
| 21:53.48 | Apollozeus | they appear to have some sort of loyalty towards the alliance |
| 21:53.55 | Apollozeus | but they're not 100% devoted to their cause |
| 21:54.35 | Apollozeus | although I personally think they're to stay in Azeroth |
| 21:54.48 | Apollozeus | outland is not a really pleasant place to live :p |
| 21:54.51 | Zeal | outside the leaderships and ambasadors, i get the impression the alliance looks upon them the same as orcs. |
| 21:55.02 | beeyatch | kk, so far... |
| 21:55.12 | beeyatch | i will leave you guys alone now and spend the rest of the day with my girl :) |
| 21:55.16 | beeyatch | thanks and later |
| 21:55.25 | Zeal | lol, cya |
| 21:55.33 | Apollozeus | have fun |
| 21:56.01 | Apollozeus | anyways, zeal |
| 21:56.01 | Apollozeus | you've got to come up with some source for that :p |
| 21:56.02 | Zeal | Azur Watch quests |
| 21:56.03 | Zeal | lol |
| 21:56.06 | Zeal | take your pick |
| 21:56.31 | Zeal | the Draenei population look down on the broken and shamanism too. |
| 21:56.54 | Apollozeus | Zeal |
| 21:56.59 | Apollozeus | night elves =! entire alliance |
| 21:57.36 | Zeal | NPC chatter @ azure watch, Exodar and the fact all broken are kept to their own or are working as laborers. |
| 21:57.54 | Zeal | i didn't say there where? |
| 21:58.11 | Zeal | soem of the NPCs on the coast bit talk about it too. |
| 21:58.16 | Apollozeus | oh? |
| 21:58.25 | Zeal | they being night elf, human and dwarf. |
| 21:58.54 | Zeal | gnomes where too busy plotting with goblins >_> |
| 21:59.07 | Zeal | and inturn keal'thas iirc. |
| 21:59.15 | Zeal | *were |
| 21:59.28 | Zeal | *the gnomes there |
| 21:59.29 | Zeal | :P |
| 21:59.58 | Zeal | anyways.. i'm gunna throw my head down on the pillow now.. |
| 22:00.00 | Zeal | nn all |
| 22:00.03 | Apollozeus | night zeal |
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| 22:02.04 | Hobinheim | kirk, did you make clearfont2? |
| 22:02.11 | Kirkburn|afk | yes |
| 22:02.35 | Hobinheim | someone posted that he's having trouble with his profession/training menu |
| 22:02.50 | Kirkburn|afk | '...'? |
| 22:02.57 | Hobinheim | sec |
| 22:03.17 | Hobinheim | http://project-nex.us/img/clearfont2.png |
| 22:03.22 | Hobinheim | stupid remote desktop cut and paste... |
| 22:03.42 | Kirkburn|afk | Tell him to read the website's readme |
| 22:04.25 | Kirkburn|afk | It's a bug with WoW - solved by reducing the font scale |
| 22:04.49 | Kirkburn|afk | (I've answered the question soooo many times :( |
| 22:07.44 | Hobinheim | koo tenx |
| 22:07.55 | Hobinheim | do you know of any like... cooldown mods or something |
| 22:08.01 | Hobinheim | i hate having buttons on my screen... |
| 22:08.23 | Kirkburn|afk | Cooldown? e.g. on your action bars? |
| 22:11.57 | Hobinheim | yeah |
| 22:12.19 | Hobinheim | i need some sort of genius feedback mechanism that isn't so clunky |
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| 22:21.55 | nick255 | anybody on silvermoon or know about its status? |
| 22:22.44 | nick255 | the realm status forum says it was supposed to be restarted 12 hours ago |
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| 23:21.46 | Bagginsww | http://www.blizzplanet.com/coppermine/thumbnails.php?album=search&type=full&search=Eavenson |
| 23:22.15 | Bagginsww | there are my pictures |
| 23:22.16 | Bagginsww | from end of beta |
| 23:22.30 | Bagginsww | sorry about the gnomevision |
| 23:22.36 | Bagginsww | can't help it LOL |
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