00:00.11 | Zeal | lol |
00:00.19 | Zeal | that sounds interesting |
00:00.34 | Zeal | makes me think the demon soul was used to reopen the portal. |
00:00.44 | kuinkala | lol im never gonna use razor blades again to shave my face |
00:00.49 | Zeal | and that the aspect shards are scales from each dragon aspect. |
00:01.08 | Zeal | he's probably already have the black one, possibly the red too iirc. |
00:01.12 | Zeal | *he'd |
00:06.49 | Zeal | you knew why i was pissed at ragestorm, i said it in here :p |
00:07.09 | Adys | forgot =P |
00:07.17 | Adys | couldnt have said andonisus |
00:07.27 | Adys | I just knew you were pissed for lore reasons :P |
00:07.32 | Zeal | lol |
00:07.41 | Adys | and lore .... |
00:07.41 | Zeal | well i've said my final word on it now. |
00:07.54 | Zeal | i honestly do not share the faith you guys have in him. |
00:08.45 | Adys | fin! |
00:08.52 | Fin | c'est moi |
00:08.52 | Adys | welcome back :) |
00:08.57 | Fin | merci |
00:09.02 | Adys | come on your ts serv =P |
00:09.15 | Fin | in a bit :) |
00:09.16 | Adys | zebby here :) - and sorry for the offtopic |
00:09.31 | Fin | cool, I'll be there shortly |
00:35.29 | Kirkburn | Oh this is silly |
00:35.32 | Kirkburn | No internet again |
00:35.55 | Kirkburn | Yet here I am, chatting away |
00:38.01 | Zeal | : / |
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01:07.06 | Kirkburn | harrumph |
01:07.18 | Zeal | pm? |
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01:22.18 | Tekkub | erf |
01:23.43 | Kirkburn | arf |
01:41.15 | Bagginsww | Only thing I have against ragestorm is when he gets mad, he starts declaring something is more valid than other source. I usually have to calm him down, reminding him of Blizzard's statements on the issue, flavor lore, and sometimes incosistences crop up they are only human. |
01:41.39 | Bagginsww | so its not that big of a deal |
01:41.56 | Bagginsww | doesn't shatter the universe :p |
01:42.44 | Bagginsww | Draenei are a major retcon... I haven't let it shatter my opinion of Blizzard LOL. I'm quite enjoying the new lore surround such a major change. |
01:49.50 | Kirkburn | Heya |
01:49.59 | Kirkburn | Just been chatting with Zeal about it |
01:50.29 | Kirkburn | You gotta be relaxed on the wiki |
01:50.37 | Kirkburn | And I really don't want us turning into wikipedia :P |
01:50.54 | Bagginsww | Hopefully in the future if someone wants more info from the books they just ask me via talk pages, and I'll go find the direct quote :p |
01:51.27 | Kirkburn | Do you have every one noow? |
01:51.31 | Kirkburn | s/noow/now/ |
01:51.41 | Bagginsww | do I have every book? |
01:52.05 | Bagginsww | I have a few of them with me yes |
01:52.35 | Bagginsww | don't ask me to find direct quotes for novels as I havne't read them all yet though LOL |
01:52.46 | Kirkburn | useless! they barely cost anything, too :P |
01:53.01 | Bagginsww | I own them |
01:53.05 | Bagginsww | just haven't gotten to them |
01:53.12 | Bagginsww | school, other stuff |
01:53.28 | Kirkburn | Btw, as I said to Zeal: <Kirkburn> Theron is just very very annoying, and very close to a ban |
01:53.52 | Kirkburn | I've given him his final warning |
01:54.38 | Zeal | <3 Kirkburn |
01:55.08 | Kirkburn | To all: if you ever find something/someone really getting you angry on the wiki, step away for a while, just so you're in a good frame of mind to think clearly |
01:55.21 | Zeal | http://www.amazon.co.uk/Floating-Portable-Speakers-for-i-Pod/dp/B000KFS2IW or the RPG books? lol |
01:55.33 | Zeal | i want to use my ipod in the bath/shower |
01:55.34 | Zeal | lol |
01:55.45 | Kirkburn | I know not everyone are natural diplomats (I had to be at school, damn being a nerd :), but you gotta try =) |
01:56.02 | Kirkburn | Zeal, lol |
01:56.17 | Zeal | my xmas money is going to one of those.. |
01:56.17 | Zeal | lol |
01:56.29 | Kirkburn | I'd go for the RPG books cause how often are you in the shower? |
01:56.39 | Zeal | >_<; |
01:56.45 | Zeal | *>_>; |
01:57.16 | Kirkburn | Get yourself other distractions for there, like rubber duckies or a person of your favourite sex ... |
01:57.24 | Zeal | lol |
01:58.34 | Zeal | there is a book on amazon about how to hack wow.. |
01:58.56 | Kirkburn | That reminds me, gonna order some stuff now |
01:59.03 | Zeal | gold? lol |
01:59.32 | Kirkburn | er, no, never |
01:59.40 | Kirkburn | Link to the book? |
01:59.44 | Zeal | Manual of Monsters = £1,000+ :o |
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02:00.25 | Bagginsw | computer crashed |
02:00.31 | Bagginsw | not it won't let me log into bagginsww :p |
02:00.38 | Zeal | <Zeal> Manual of Monsters = £1,000+ :o |
02:00.49 | Bagginsw | I'm not selling my copy |
02:00.55 | Kirkburn | Bagginsw, which RPG book do you recommend? |
02:01.04 | Kirkburn | If you had to choose one |
02:01.04 | Bagginsw | for a first book? |
02:01.07 | Zeal | http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hacking-World-Warcraft-ExtremeTech-Gilbert/dp/0470110023/ |
02:01.10 | Bagginsw | go with any of the brann books |
02:01.26 | Bagginsw | Lands of Conflict, Lands of Mystery, APG, HPG |
02:01.39 | Bagginsw | most interesting for lore reading |
02:01.54 | Bagginsw | especially if you liked the Thrall introduction style in RotH |
02:02.12 | Bagginsw | after that hmm, maybe Shadows & Light |
02:02.23 | Kirkburn | Zeal, ah, it covers UI stuff |
02:02.23 | Bagginsw | since it covers info about the Eternals |
02:02.49 | Bagginsw | Eternals being any demon, Ancient, elemental lords, etc |
02:02.50 | Kirkburn | Dan Gilbert is the name of the Atlas guy |
02:02.58 | Bagginsw | nothing on Old Gods sorry |
02:03.52 | Zeal | ok.. |
02:04.06 | Zeal | well i assumed it was soemthing liek that when i took a closer look |
02:04.29 | Zeal | £1,125.41 MoM used.. |
02:04.31 | Zeal | wtf!?!? |
02:04.42 | Bagginsw | pdf is the only way to get the book now LOL |
02:04.46 | Bagginsw | unless you are rich |
02:05.07 | Bagginsw | you might want to just wait for Monster Guide |
02:05.29 | Bagginsw | newly improved and color pictures from what I hear |
02:05.38 | Bagginsw | and about twice as long |
02:06.10 | Kirkburn | What does Conflict and Mystery cover? |
02:06.22 | Bagginsw | Conflict is eastern kingdoms |
02:06.25 | Bagginsw | myster is kalimdor |
02:06.36 | Bagginsw | its basically Brann's adventures around the world |
02:06.39 | Zeal | http://www.amazon.co.uk/Pop-Displays-2006-V05-Warcraft/dp/1598165542 |
02:06.40 | Zeal | :o |
02:07.12 | Kirkburn | Lots of stuff to read, I hope? :) |
02:07.17 | Bagginsw | ya |
02:07.21 | Bagginsw | more lore than rpg stats |
02:07.32 | Kirkburn | cool |
02:07.38 | Kirkburn | *sigh* when will part 3 come |
02:07.48 | Bagginsw | if you want to avoid too much rpg stats avoid the Magic and Mayhem books |
02:07.57 | Bagginsw | good 3/4s is dedicated to spells |
02:08.07 | Bagginsw | and that's all statistical for the most part |
02:08.29 | Bagginsw | Alliance Player's Guide and Horde Player's Guide |
02:08.30 | Zeal | i disliek they refer to addons and macros etc as hacks on that book |
02:08.32 | Bagginsw | are like his addendums |
02:08.37 | Bagginsw | to those conflict series |
02:08.49 | Bagginsw | where he goes into socio/political commentaries |
02:09.03 | Bagginsw | and how he's on his way to outland |
02:09.11 | Kirkburn | 31st Jan for monster guide |
02:09.18 | Bagginsw | so hopefully we getan Outland book soon |
02:09.56 | Bagginsw | closest so far for outland, emerald dream, etc was in Shadows and Light |
02:10.04 | Zeal | ok.. here is what i've got... Warcraft Archive, S&L, M&M, LoC, LoM, MM&M, WoWRPG, HPG, APG = £130 |
02:10.06 | Bagginsw | just not Brann's take |
02:10.29 | Bagginsw | plenty of reading there |
02:10.32 | Zeal | WCRPG would be about an extra "5 |
02:10.37 | Zeal | *£25 |
02:10.44 | Bagginsw | wcrpg is good for the short stories |
02:10.47 | Zeal | the overs are £100+ |
02:10.52 | Zeal | *others |
02:10.58 | Bagginsw | otherwise much of it is covered again in the WoWRPG |
02:11.17 | Zeal | well i can only get it cheap used, new its like £55 |
02:11.26 | Zeal | so i think i'll pass.. |
02:11.35 | Bagginsw | Alliance & Horde player's guide is good for pandaren and blood elf histories |
02:11.38 | Zeal | books are not soemthing that hold up well used.. |
02:12.01 | Bagginsw | mine are in great condition but I'm careful |
02:12.44 | Kirkburn | Bagginsw, which first - APG&HPG or Conflict&Mystery? :) |
02:12.54 | Bagginsw | ahh go with conflict and mystery |
02:13.08 | Bagginsw | cause APG & HPG read like sequels to those books |
02:13.21 | Kirkburn | Actually, I have no choice, one of each is out of stock :P |
02:13.26 | Bagginsw | and the conflict and mystery are older and at least one may be out of print |
02:13.39 | Bagginsw | that's the worst thing about rpg books |
02:13.41 | Bagginsw | they sell out fat |
02:13.43 | Bagginsw | *fast |
02:13.56 | Bagginsw | what you can't get hardcover I recommend drivethrugh rpg |
02:13.59 | Bagginsw | for pdf |
02:14.42 | Kirkburn | Going for HPG for now, cheapest |
02:15.10 | Bagginsw | well I know the shipping can be an issue but you could try to get APG through amazon.com us |
02:15.25 | Zeal | free delivery at .co.uk |
02:16.10 | Bagginsw | You'll like the Horde Player's guide, very entertaining read |
02:16.25 | Bagginsw | just beware of his refrences back to his older books LOL |
02:16.34 | Zeal | "Only 3 left in stock--order soon." ffs |
02:16.39 | Bagginsw | several times he's like see, such and such |
02:16.44 | Zeal | i might have to order my speakers instead.. |
02:16.45 | Kirkburn | Lol, one's mine Zeal! |
02:17.33 | Bagginsw | I can't wait for the third manga |
02:17.39 | Zeal | huh? you ordered speakers? |
02:17.45 | Bagginsw | I want to see how accurate that BC blood elves history is to it |
02:18.02 | Zeal | Ghostlands sure is taking a while : / |
02:18.15 | Bagginsw | apparently not |
02:18.16 | Kirkburn | Rawr |
02:18.20 | Bagginsw | they have been released one year apart |
02:18.22 | Bagginsw | on the dot |
02:18.26 | Zeal | oh |
02:18.30 | Bagginsw | they did this on purpose :p |
02:18.34 | Kirkburn | "Only 3 left in stock--order soon." <-- HPG, no? |
02:18.36 | Zeal | i thought the first two were fairly close, like months |
02:18.42 | Zeal | no, that's for the speakers :P |
02:18.52 | Bagginsw | I thought so too then I looked at hte release dates |
02:18.52 | Zeal | there are other suppliers, so i think i'm safe actually. |
02:19.11 | Bagginsw | march 2005, march 2006, and now march 2007 |
02:19.12 | Zeal | i think it's cos, as usual, blizz store is late |
02:19.13 | Kirkburn | "Only 4 left in stock--order soon (more on the way). " <-- HPG |
02:19.25 | Zeal | and i went off when they announced the first one |
02:19.37 | Bagginsw | I think Whitewolf only makes a limited run of books |
02:19.44 | Bagginsw | sells them out and then only makes 1 or 2 more reprints |
02:20.36 | Bagginsw | I already know what the cover of monster guide looks like but I haven't seen a color version of it online yet :p |
02:20.54 | Bagginsw | I've only seen what it looks like in the back of the HPG. |
02:23.22 | Bagginsw | Oh and kirkburn some very good short stories in HPG |
02:23.27 | Kirkburn | cool |
02:23.28 | Bagginsw | some that tie into Lord of hte Clans |
02:23.48 | Bagginsw | more on Thrall's time with blackmoore |
02:24.06 | Kirkburn | Awesome |
02:24.07 | Bagginsw | and there is some extensions to Eitregg's story as well. |
02:24.30 | Kirkburn | I get to see my WC books again 2moro :) |
02:24.35 | Bagginsw | heh |
02:24.36 | Bagginsw | nice |
02:25.18 | Bagginsw | one of the more inrestesting tales involves a paladin that infiltrates Undercity with the help of a former holy light priest, who is now Forsaken |
02:25.37 | Bagginsw | This priest goes into concept that hte light has Forsaken him |
02:25.43 | Bagginsw | he can no longer use its powers |
02:26.10 | Bagginsw | But he refuses to use Shadow |
02:26.14 | Bagginsw | *forgotten shadow |
02:26.22 | Bagginsw | so hes a shale of who he once was |
02:26.24 | Bagginsw | *shell |
02:26.49 | Zeal | ordered |
02:27.25 | Bagginsw | He would just like to be remembered for who he was in life, and help to the best of his abilities to save the people apothecary are experimenting on |
02:27.51 | Bagginsw | let me find it and quote a few lines from it |
02:28.24 | Bagginsw | Oh there is a story about Gorn |
02:28.46 | Bagginsw | Gorn the orc, not the furbolog |
02:28.50 | Kirkburn | ooh |
02:29.01 | Bagginsw | talks about his brother |
02:29.59 | Zeal | https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/registry/wishlist/JS31H8JCMIBJ :p |
02:34.58 | Zeal | amazon delivery estimates are always so off.. |
02:35.07 | Zeal | "21 Mar 2007 - 23 Mar 2007" for the bulk of my order |
02:35.26 | Zeal | roughly the same time it said RotH would arrive >_> |
02:35.42 | Bagginsw | ok apprarently Leonid Barthalomew was once Forsaken |
02:35.50 | Bagginsw | but left them because he did not agree with their beliefs |
02:37.04 | Bagginsw | The undead priest is a supporter of Barthalomew |
02:37.09 | Kirkburn | Zeal, ouch |
02:37.41 | Zeal | HPG is 14th of jan |
02:37.51 | Zeal | along with.. WoWRPG |
02:38.35 | Kirkburn | Zeal, same for me 14th |
02:38.37 | Bagginsw | Believe me when I say WoWRPG is hardly worth it :p |
02:38.51 | Bagginsw | no short stories |
02:39.03 | Bagginsw | and most of it is retread of what you can find in other books but better |
02:39.09 | Bagginsw | althought it has nice color pictures LOL |
02:39.26 | Bagginsw | well it has one anecdote but that's all |
02:39.52 | Zeal | but it has the most complete timeline ;) |
02:39.53 | Kirkburn | No wait, "quietly"? What am I thinking about ... |
02:40.00 | Zeal | rofl Kirkburn |
02:40.04 | Bagginsw | I printed up the entire timeline word for word for you LOL |
02:40.08 | Kirkburn | How about the board game? :) |
02:40.09 | Bagginsw | no paraphrase |
02:40.11 | Zeal | i know |
02:40.21 | Bagginsw | I don't have the baord game LOL |
02:40.23 | Zeal | i doubt the baord games have lore.. lol |
02:40.25 | Kirkburn | Yeah, er, let'a not plagiarise too much =) |
02:40.28 | Kirkburn | *let's |
02:40.42 | Bagginsw | there is some lore in the boardgame I guess |
02:40.46 | Kirkburn | I was wondering if anyone's played it :P |
02:40.51 | Zeal | nah |
02:40.52 | Bagginsw | involving setup for the games |
02:41.04 | Zeal | theres a wc3, tft and wow one iirc. |
02:41.05 | Zeal | wow one is probably worthwhile |
02:41.08 | Bagginsw | wc3 and tft were together |
02:41.14 | Zeal | nah, theres two iirc |
02:41.16 | Bagginsw | well the game and and expansion |
02:41.21 | Bagginsw | tft was an expansion |
02:41.31 | Zeal | hm.. i've seen it stand alone :S |
02:41.32 | Bagginsw | there website had some "lore" |
02:41.38 | Bagginsw | for some varietn games to setup |
02:41.50 | Kirkburn | I think I may have to import Vista |
02:41.53 | Bagginsw | well I think TFT could be played standalone |
02:42.00 | Bagginsw | or expansion of the original |
02:42.10 | Bagginsw | it just added in more location tiles |
02:42.28 | Kirkburn | £369.99 for Vista Ultimate, it's just crazy |
02:42.34 | Bagginsw | ok shh story time |
02:42.38 | Kirkburn | In US $379.99 |
02:42.42 | Bagginsw | You wear the robes of a priest, Trevor |
02:42.56 | Bagginsw | why do you not channel the Light in battle, if you seek redemption? |
02:43.05 | Kirkburn | The injustice! The injustice! I can't be quiet! Rawr! |
02:43.07 | Bagginsw | The priest seemed to wince at that |
02:43.25 | Bagginsw | While I refuse to wield the shadow, the Light has refused me, or so it seems |
02:43.39 | Bagginsw | and so, I am truly a broken man |
02:43.57 | Bagginsw | I learned to wield the spears of LIght in the First War, not a solid weapon like Uther's knights did in the Second |
02:44.19 | Bagginsw | Without the Light, I am unarmed and unarmored - but not entirely helpless as you see |
02:44.51 | Bagginsw | Andarin couldn't help but fee a little bit sorry for the fallen priest, if his story was true. |
02:45.19 | Bagginsw | Perhaps a man, no matter how virtuous , could not channel holy power while in such a form. |
02:45.30 | Bagginsw | alright that's the part I wanted to type up |
02:45.32 | Kirkburn | (Zeal, btw, I know one of the writers of the HackWoW book) |
02:46.06 | Kirkburn | Bagginsw, nice |
02:46.06 | Zeal | kk |
02:46.06 | Zeal | and ouchy Kirkburn |
02:46.13 | Zeal | when is vista actually out, already? :s |
02:46.18 | Kirkburn | 30th |
02:46.21 | Zeal | kk |
02:46.24 | Bagginsw | That's far mor interesting than the gameplay in WoW allowing you to use both |
02:46.33 | Zeal | been running every beta and RC i've managed to get on my other pc |
02:46.41 | Zeal | last i saw, it still wasn't up to scratch |
02:46.44 | Bagginsw | it was always one or the other back in Warcraft III too |
02:46.49 | Kirkburn | I have RC2 on my desktop |
02:46.58 | Zeal | i've got one after RC2 |
02:47.07 | Zeal | don't recall what version |
02:47.07 | Kirkburn | Uh |
02:47.09 | Kirkburn | Release? |
02:47.13 | Zeal | nope |
02:47.17 | Kirkburn | RC2 was the last one |
02:47.17 | Zeal | limited release ones |
02:47.28 | Kirkburn | Year RC2 was v limited |
02:47.31 | Kirkburn | *yeah |
02:47.51 | Kirkburn | Bagginsw, that's true |
02:48.00 | Kirkburn | It'd be a bit boring though =) |
02:48.22 | Zeal | Build 5808 i think it was |
02:48.33 | Zeal | Pre-RTM |
02:48.39 | Kirkburn | Given the 3 month gap between RTM and proper release, I'm sure it'll be so much more stable |
02:48.43 | Zeal | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Development_of_Windows_Vista#Pre-RTM |
02:49.17 | Kirkburn | Oh right |
02:49.24 | Kirkburn | Of course, forgot about those |
02:49.46 | Zeal | "However, a catastrophic "show-stopper" bug was found that destroyed any system that was upgraded from Windows XP. Only completely reinstalling Windows would fix the computer." |
02:49.47 | Zeal | rofl |
02:50.20 | Kirkburn | Yeah, remember Thurott's article about that :P |
02:51.06 | Kirkburn | I'm def going for Ultimate |
02:51.10 | Zeal | same |
02:51.20 | Zeal | i took their little test thingy to see which it recommended |
02:51.22 | Kirkburn | I'll get too jealous otherwise ;) |
02:51.23 | Zeal | ultimate :p |
02:51.28 | Kirkburn | yeah |
02:51.31 | Kirkburn | same |
02:51.44 | Bagginsw | so is vista ultimate the version worth getting? |
02:51.52 | Kirkburn | Bagginsw, thanks for your recommendations, I await my HPG with anticipation! |
02:52.03 | Bagginsw | Enjoy!!! |
02:52.04 | Kirkburn | It is, for Dreamscape :) |
02:52.25 | Kirkburn | wait, do I meant that? |
02:52.44 | Kirkburn | DreamScene |
02:52.59 | Kirkburn | DeskScape is the free upgrade for that from Stardock (whom I love) |
02:53.08 | Bagginsw | what are those? |
02:53.18 | Kirkburn | DreamScene allows you to have motion desktops |
02:53.26 | Kirkburn | e.g. smoothly animated backgrounds |
02:53.29 | Bagginsw | ooh |
02:53.40 | Kirkburn | brb |
02:53.48 | Bagginsw | so I could have a ocean scene with actual moving waves? |
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02:55.09 | Bagginsw | well I'm off need to find some food, and play some wow |
02:55.58 | Kirkburn | Bagginsw, exactly |
02:55.58 | Zeal | kk. nn Bagginsw |
02:56.09 | Kirkburn | They showed one with a waterfall |
02:56.16 | Zeal | and i dislike paying for stardock, plenty happy using it |
02:56.37 | Kirkburn | I renewed by ObjectDesktop sub yesterday |
02:56.38 | Zeal | however, their last version of windows blinds purposely corrupts your system if you illegally install it |
02:56.43 | Zeal | so i hate the fuckers now |
02:56.49 | Kirkburn | heh, yeah, that's what forced me to buy it :P |
02:56.55 | Kirkburn | Actually |
02:57.00 | Zeal | i hope they get sued for it |
02:57.01 | Kirkburn | It was the hack's fault |
02:57.07 | Zeal | oh? |
02:57.08 | Kirkburn | It wasn't Stardock |
02:57.43 | Zeal | i'm still running windows blind 4.5, so not had the displeasure of my pc being fucked. |
02:57.46 | Kirkburn | Basically what happened was that a timer went off (a trial timer), but due to the hack being in place, it didn't restore back to normal |
02:57.57 | Zeal | hm.. |
02:58.28 | Zeal | so the hack didn't do a complete job, resulting in a software messing up the system where it normally would have been just reset? |
02:58.32 | Kirkburn | So in a way it was Stardock's fault, but more for actually using that hack in the first place |
02:58.39 | Kirkburn | yes |
02:58.49 | Zeal | fair enough |
02:58.52 | Zeal | still not paying >_> |
02:59.04 | Kirkburn | You could still undo the problem though |
02:59.16 | Zeal | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_%22Vienna%22 ftw |
02:59.24 | Kirkburn | Just took me patience to slooowly get to the 'unload' option |
02:59.40 | Kirkburn | yeah :) |
02:59.55 | Kirkburn | Gryphen, you're amongst MS friends here :D |
03:00.07 | Gryphen | h00t |
03:00.51 | Zeal | ok wtf @ Fiji |
03:02.14 | Kirkburn | Poor country, it never deserved it |
03:03.40 | Zeal | O_o |
03:03.43 | Zeal | i'm talking about the windows codename |
03:05.09 | Zeal | windows has always come in the following style. version, revision, new version, revision, new version, revision. Vista breaks that, as it's a second revision. |
03:05.46 | Zeal | Fiji was added, afaik, as another revision to vista. with vienna being the new version vista was supposed to be. |
03:05.59 | Kirkburn | oh right |
03:06.02 | Zeal | wiki admins have removed all trace of fiji now though.. |
03:06.23 | Kirkburn | Vista is a second revision? |
03:06.27 | Zeal | yes |
03:06.30 | Zeal | of her.. NT |
03:06.38 | Zeal | windows xp was the revision |
03:06.40 | Zeal | *er |
03:06.42 | equiraptor | What version is vista? |
03:06.50 | Zeal | revision 2 :P |
03:06.51 | equiraptor | 2k was 5, XP was 5.1. |
03:07.10 | equiraptor | 5.2 is Windows Server 2003. |
03:07.17 | Zeal | yes |
03:07.24 | Zeal | this is exlusing server revisions |
03:07.28 | Kirkburn | 6.0 is Vista |
03:07.33 | Zeal | *excluding |
03:07.43 | Zeal | yeah, which is a lie though Kirkburn ;) |
03:08.00 | Zeal | it's still NT underneath, heh. |
03:08.01 | Kirkburn | They always bump the revisions |
03:08.11 | equiraptor | Uhh... That's why it's NT 6.0. |
03:08.17 | equiraptor | As 2000 was NT 5.0 |
03:08.31 | Kirkburn | You're being silly, Zeal :P |
03:08.33 | Tekkub | 2K was NT made a tad better |
03:08.37 | Zeal | yes.. not talking about those numbers.. |
03:08.41 | Tekkub | XP was 2k with an ugly skin |
03:08.48 | equiraptor | Ok. I am talking about those numbers. :) |
03:09.09 | Tekkub | Vista is XP with an ugly skin and pointless overuse of "pretty" fading effects |
03:09.28 | Tekkub | ^^ |
03:09.32 | Kirkburn | What is http://www.wowwiki.com/You_are_not_preperd - I can't reach it :/ |
03:09.39 | Kirkburn | oh, got it now |
03:10.04 | Tekkub | you know, "You are not prepared" seems more appropriate for people upgrading to Vista than to TBC now that I think about it |
03:10.07 | Kirkburn | Tekkub, I completely disagree you assclown :) (always wanted to say that) |
03:10.11 | equiraptor | Heh |
03:10.27 | Tekkub | Kirkburn, fucksmudge |
03:10.52 | Kirkburn | lol "This is wat illidan said in the cinematic trailer to the Burning Crusade. " |
03:11.17 | Zeal | ok, i need to correct myself. win2k, winxp, winvista. it's the normal consumer market products. |
03:11.57 | Tekkub | I find it funny people that whine about dictionaries and words not existing |
03:12.05 | Zeal | the wiki used to explain it better :( |
03:12.14 | Tekkub | English is such a conglomerated bastardization of so many languages |
03:12.35 | Zeal | indeed |
03:12.52 | Tekkub | Kirkburn, my version of the page: "It's true, you aren't" |
03:13.01 | Kirkburn | lol |
03:14.04 | Zeal | vista was supposed to start a new line, they couldn't acheive it, so went back and just remade 2000. vienna is what vista was supposed to be, but because of their normal release pattern, fiji should come before that, driving vienna even further back. |
03:15.05 | Tekkub | Zeal... so wait.... |
03:15.17 | Tekkub | XP was MS geting rid of the shitty kernel |
03:15.34 | Zeal | no? |
03:15.44 | Zeal | vista was supposed to be ms getting rid of it. |
03:15.50 | Tekkub | now they want to get rid of that line... but being MS they can't pull it off in a timeframe of, oh, a decade..... |
03:15.54 | Tekkub | that about right? |
03:15.57 | Kirkburn | My new wallpaper: http://mfrost.typepad.com/cute_overload/2007/01/anipals_in_a_mo.html |
03:16.10 | Tekkub | no, XP was them abandoning the 9x line |
03:16.11 | Zeal | yes |
03:16.15 | Zeal | no |
03:16.16 | Tekkub | and thank god they did |
03:16.22 | Zeal | 2000 was |
03:16.38 | Tekkub | no it wasn't, cause there was ME too |
03:16.57 | Zeal | which came before, and was the death of that line |
03:17.05 | Zeal | 98, ME. |
03:17.17 | Tekkub | erm... okey... lemme rephrase then |
03:17.20 | Kirkburn | 2000 was not a consumer product |
03:17.28 | Kirkburn | XP was the first combined product |
03:17.33 | Zeal | it was designed to be. |
03:17.33 | Tekkub | XP was them pushing the NT core upon "average" users |
03:17.42 | Zeal | yes Tekkub |
03:17.43 | Kirkburn | Yeah, but they changed befoe release |
03:17.56 | Kirkburn | indeed |
03:18.08 | Zeal | because it needed to be. but don;t forget the nt core has always changed along side others. |
03:18.29 | Tekkub | end of story.... expect revolutionary ideas from MS, but expect 4 other vendors to release products that use the idea years before MS actually does :) |
03:18.45 | Zeal | rofl |
03:19.12 | Tekkub | and once MS does they tout it as great new tech *coughtabbedbrowsingcough* |
03:19.13 | Zeal | ms usually has the ideas first, they jsut drag their feet implementing them :P |
03:19.28 | Zeal | lol |
03:19.47 | Kirkburn | Hey, MS didn't tout tabbed browsing as something they thought up |
03:19.56 | Kirkburn | FF did :P |
03:19.57 | Zeal | they didn't? lol |
03:20.11 | Kirkburn | No they didn't |
03:20.18 | Tekkub | no but they tougt it as cutting edge wave of the future |
03:20.33 | Kirkburn | Of course they would, it's cutting edge for most people :P |
03:20.34 | Zeal | it's like the PS3's new controller technology.. so new, it existed in third party controllers on the ps2.. |
03:20.58 | Kirkburn | But they never claimed they were first |
03:21.06 | Zeal | they didn't? lol |
03:21.12 | Tekkub | hey, PS3 costs so much cause they had to think that shit up themselves |
03:21.23 | Kirkburn | Zeal, PS1, even |
03:21.23 | Tekkub | you know how much you have to pay creative people |
03:21.53 | Kirkburn | Sony botched up yesterday when they released a press release saying the SIXAXIS had won an emmy |
03:22.17 | Kirkburn | That was, until the Emmy guys said, er, no you didn't, the Dual Shock did, and it was a joint award |
03:22.34 | Zeal | XP SP2 is like.. "hey, we're sorry vista is taking so long, we'll jsut fix some things that have always been broken but we've not really realized or cared about up until now. that should keep you happy" |
03:22.50 | Kirkburn | Keep the European Commision happy, you mean |
03:23.08 | Zeal | lol Kirkburn |
03:23.39 | Zeal | wii all the way. |
03:23.39 | Kirkburn | Symantec has gone off on another war against the Vista security again now |
03:23.47 | Zeal | no surprises |
03:23.52 | Kirkburn | I really wonder what that company's policy is |
03:23.54 | Zeal | keeps them in business :P |
03:24.06 | Zeal | makes them look good and needed |
03:24.07 | Zeal | lol |
03:25.04 | Kirkburn | Awwww! http://mfrost.typepad.com/cute_overload/2006/12/galileo_gets_a_.html |
03:25.10 | Zeal | its like "there is an exploit on the system that allows a program to this and that without your consent" and you're like.. "so? i just won't be stupid enough to download programs that might" |
03:25.49 | Zeal | for soem reason, i like cats, but not kittens.. |
03:25.53 | Zeal | :S |
03:26.05 | Kirkburn | freak |
03:26.24 | Kirkburn | Symantec's latest idea is to try and circumvent UAC |
03:26.37 | Zeal | rofl |
03:26.53 | Zeal | well it is vista primary security feature |
03:26.59 | Zeal | *vista's |
03:27.16 | Kirkburn | I know, I mean if they take that out of the equation, everyone will need Symantec! |
03:28.00 | Zeal | indeed |
03:28.06 | Zeal | UAC is annoying though.. |
03:28.22 | Kirkburn | An unfortunate side effect of being power users |
03:28.22 | Zeal | less so than virus/net protection software |
03:28.46 | Kirkburn | It's easy enough to get around though - I set the Program Files directory accessible :P |
03:29.19 | Kirkburn | Qualify that, you meant NORTON virus/net protection software, surely :P |
03:29.22 | Zeal | i find it rather counter-productive and retro active to click though and say "yes i want this to do what i just told it to do" and "yes i want this to access the internet, after all, i did run it" |
03:29.42 | Zeal | i was thinking of norton |
03:29.47 | Kirkburn | It should be better in the final product, once we're running it 'normally' |
03:29.53 | Zeal | but its the same on all of them. especially in the case of software firewalls |
03:30.14 | Kirkburn | (and once software is configured properly with the correct places to put files) |
03:30.22 | Zeal | it's all opt-in stuff. well if i ran it, ofc i want it to do it.. either than or i'm an idiot. |
03:30.55 | Kirkburn | If on the shelf progs get UAC prompts, they've been coded badly (or are extremely advanced, I guess) |
03:31.03 | Kirkburn | *off-the-shelf |
03:31.04 | Zeal | so much nicer just leaving the router firewall to do it's job :) |
03:31.16 | Zeal | true true |
03:31.36 | Zeal | the nvidia firewall would have been nice.. if it worked. |
03:31.53 | Kirkburn | It's unfortunate that there's the double prompt problem, but it was a design issue with Vista and would have required a complete recode to prevent |
03:32.02 | Zeal | indeed |
03:32.03 | Kirkburn | (come on Vienna!) |
03:32.07 | Zeal | yuup :P |
03:32.25 | Kirkburn | I love hearing cats meow =) |
03:32.30 | Zeal | i hope fiji was scrapped.. |
03:32.43 | Zeal | lol.. i won't go into cats meowing.. |
03:34.24 | Kirkburn | meooow! |
03:34.33 | Zeal | :p |
03:34.43 | Zeal | catgirls ftw.. |
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03:37.04 | kuinkala | <: |
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03:38.42 | Zeal | lol @ random lurker :P |
03:39.20 | Zeal | Kirkburn, bold links in watchlist, wtf do they mean? :S |
03:39.35 | Kirkburn | That's you've not visited the page |
03:39.43 | Kirkburn | Visiting a diff doesn't count |
03:39.50 | Kirkburn | (unfortunately) |
03:40.00 | Adys | nor visiting a redirect>< |
03:40.03 | kuinkala | hehee |
03:51.17 | Zeal | ok.. i can onyl think it means i've not visted, since last edit. |
03:51.26 | Zeal | not just simply not visted :P |
03:51.29 | Zeal | kk |
03:51.43 | Zeal | jsut seems oddly inconsitant at times, wasn't sure :s |
03:54.43 | Kirkburn | To bed! |
03:54.50 | Kirkburn | Good night all! |
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04:19.44 | Zeal | lo Hobinheim |
04:25.40 | Hobinheim | hello =/ |
04:27.24 | Zeal | whats up? |
04:27.44 | Hobinheim | ehh not happy with some nav templates |
04:27.47 | Hobinheim | nav templates are my baby! |
04:28.00 | Hobinheim | so i'm trying to come up with el solucione in cabasa |
04:29.25 | Zeal | i barely speak english, let alone anything else :P |
04:29.28 | Hobinheim | i'm also behind in wow and behind in life... |
04:29.37 | Hobinheim | so i'm trying to come up with a solution in my head |
04:29.49 | Hobinheim | where are you from? adys land? |
04:29.52 | Zeal | and i shall be the doom fo your babies if my evil plans for wiki domination works mwuahahaha |
04:29.56 | Adys | Oi |
04:30.56 | Zeal | lol |
04:31.42 | Zeal | categories > nav templates |
04:32.14 | Zeal | i might start on.. what i started with items pages |
04:32.30 | Zeal | switching over all the tooltips to my newer one. |
04:34.08 | Hobinheim | where? |
04:41.16 | Zeal | hm? |
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05:08.04 | Zeal | Hobinheim, forget who's but i took the existing tooltip template, converted it to a div+list, made the changes someone (i think kirkburn) was trying out for the icon, and added in lots of conditional stuff, even scalling of the tooltip. |
05:08.20 | Zeal | *-forgot who's but |
05:08.36 | Hobinheim | link |
05:09.01 | Zeal | http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Tooltip |
05:09.36 | Hobinheim | fuck i was going to work on that |
05:09.47 | Hobinheim | hmm |
05:09.54 | Zeal | lol |
05:10.03 | Hobinheim | oh well |
05:15.00 | Zeal | feel free to help implement it though ;) |
05:15.53 | Hobinheim | not until tek and i can get raws from the db |
05:16.04 | Hobinheim | i've zero inkling in helping out with quests and items until then |
05:16.12 | Zeal | lol i see |
05:16.30 | Zeal | imagine that goes for spells too then ;) |
05:16.52 | Zeal | think i'll do this via "what links here" for tooltipcss |
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05:21.16 | Zeal | wb :p |
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06:05.44 | Zeal | sigh.. gunna need to change the effect template too.. |
06:06.04 | Adys | careful with that |
06:06.17 | Adys | its more linked than the bc one |
06:06.41 | Zeal | i know.. i'm not doing it until i've converted all the items |
06:06.52 | Zeal | basically the effect template has table code.. |
06:07.00 | Zeal | so can't be used in the new template |
06:07.18 | Adys | just use a new template similar to effect then |
06:07.25 | Adys | effectdiv or something |
06:08.02 | Zeal | not any easier |
06:08.20 | Adys | yes but gives the chance to be able to roll it back |
06:08.39 | Zeal | basically gotta unlink it from everywhere (which i can do in the process anyways), edit the effect template, then go back and link them up again. |
06:09.32 | Zeal | not really |
06:09.39 | Zeal | either way i've gotta go back and redo it all |
06:10.12 | Zeal | ie, when i'm done, replace the effect template and go back and set them to use that again. |
06:11.05 | Zeal | i supposed adding a new template will allow me to keep track though.. |
06:11.08 | Zeal | hm.. fair enough |
06:26.53 | Zeal | i need to fix {{gsc}} too tbh.. sc c gs or w/e other combinations people are coming up with.. they're redundant. it should all be handled in gsc |
06:27.25 | Zeal | in reality {{cost}} could handle gsc and tokens |
06:29.20 | Zeal | gsc is protected? ¬_¬ |
06:29.39 | Adys | yes |
06:29.44 | Adys | its used everywhere |
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06:29.57 | Adys | edition of the template slows down the wiki for 5 mins easily |
06:31.08 | Hobinheim | OH RAILY LET ME GO EDIT IT |
06:31.18 | Adys | lmao |
06:31.35 | Hobinheim | god i cannot bring myself to play wow right now |
06:31.37 | Hobinheim | with all the alts |
06:31.40 | Hobinheim | and my mods are broken |
06:31.43 | Hobinheim | i need perfect updates! |
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06:39.42 | Zeal | http://www.wowwiki.com/Template_talk:Gsc |
06:39.58 | Fin | top |
06:40.02 | Fin | -top |
06:40.09 | Fin | hmmmm |
06:40.22 | Fin | this isn't my shell window |
06:41.04 | Zeal | is there a token cost template? |
06:41.12 | Adys | yes zeal |
06:41.18 | Adys | {{Alt Currency}} |
06:41.53 | Hobinheim | oh lordy... |
06:42.21 | Zeal | woah.. |
06:42.30 | Tekkub | what? |
06:43.01 | Zeal | that template |
06:43.05 | Tekkub | what about it? |
06:43.55 | Zeal | rather unnecessarily messy :P |
06:44.24 | Zeal | oh well, i'll take a break from the items and make {{cost}} then. |
06:44.26 | Tekkub | well it was designed around a bot uploading shit |
06:44.33 | Zeal | lol |
06:44.41 | Tekkub | but at this point I'm kinda meh on the whole bot thing |
06:44.51 | Tekkub | havn't even seen Mik in weeks anyway |
06:45.05 | Tekkub | *Mikk |
06:46.12 | Hobinheim | zeal i like your proposal to gsc |
06:46.18 | Hobinheim | i just... don't know how that's going to work. editing it |
06:47.23 | Zeal | well it doesn't need to be done |
06:47.29 | Zeal | if its that much hassle, its pointless |
06:47.45 | Zeal | cos i'll jsut be adding {{cost}} instead. |
06:52.18 | Hobinheim | tekkub when do you expect wowace to chill out |
06:52.25 | Hobinheim | i'm like... having so much non-playing anxiety right now |
06:52.29 | Tekkub | who fuckin knows |
06:52.38 | Tekkub | hit Google Code if you want my addons :) |
06:52.40 | Zeal | O_o |
06:52.45 | Hobinheim | i'm probably going to stare at my burning crusade box |
06:52.57 | Hobinheim | wondering if i should roll only seven bloof elf alts instead of five |
06:53.09 | Tekkub | BE's a so gay |
06:53.12 | Tekkub | I hate them |
06:53.28 | Tekkub | Draenei tho... the russian is the secksy |
06:53.41 | Tekkub | needs more wodka and neuclear wessils |
06:55.09 | Zeal | rofl |
06:55.29 | Zeal | well i'm going belf pala on release |
06:55.50 | Zeal | and when march coems around i can bring my hunter across to my new server. |
06:57.40 | Hobinheim | umm |
06:57.41 | Hobinheim | hello? |
06:57.47 | Hobinheim | blood knights = fabulous? |
06:58.07 | Hobinheim | i'm going straight for the spikey hair cut |
06:58.10 | Hobinheim | the rest look terrible |
07:00.25 | Zeal | ok.. what forms of currency do we have.. gold, silver, copper, honor, wsg mark, ab mark, av mark, eos mark. there is a world pvp one too iirc.. :s |
07:00.51 | Hobinheim | if you namespace them you won't have to worry |
07:00.57 | Hobinheim | 1 2 and 3 should be gsc |
07:01.02 | Hobinheim | the rest should be namespaced |
07:01.02 | Tekkub | Zeal, there's a bunch more in TBC |
07:01.05 | Hobinheim | that's just my suggstion |
07:01.16 | Tekkub | basically one per new faction, sometimes more |
07:01.22 | Hobinheim | wsg, av, ab, and whatever short hand names you can call the others |
07:01.23 | Tekkub | plus tier item tokens |
07:01.28 | Hobinheim | fuck... |
07:01.50 | Hobinheim | LOL |
07:01.54 | Zeal | Hobinheim, that's exactly what i'm doing ;) |
07:02.28 | Tekkub | probably every token turnin will use the new vendor system instead of the old quest system |
07:02.28 | Hobinheim | the special 1h swing for blood elves looks TOTALLY GAY |
07:02.29 | Tekkub | *every new |
07:02.29 | Tekkub | dunno if they're conveting the old |
07:02.29 | Hobinheim | it's like a shoryuken with a piroette |
07:03.10 | Zeal | i think you're suggesting someone else with namespaced. soemthing i think Tekkub's was trying to do, which i won't be doing. |
07:03.51 | Tekkub | really what we need is backend changes for the item daa, I'm sorry |
07:04.02 | Zeal | lol |
07:04.09 | Tekkub | that test Wiki was doing quite nicely with item tips and such |
07:04.23 | Zeal | well Teomyr|off has had great success with his wiki testbed so far. |
07:04.28 | Zeal | yeah :P |
07:04.35 | Hobinheim | ugh crystal forge armor looks terrible |
07:04.38 | Tekkub | that's why i've been heavily unmotivated, templaes just feel like hackjob solutions |
07:04.49 | Tekkub | since I saw the test wiki |
07:08.56 | Zeal | mark of thrallmar, that's the one. |
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07:15.26 | Hobinheim | wow blood elf flex looks really gay too |
07:15.39 | Hobinheim | i'm definitely using outfitter to make sure my gear color coordinates |
07:17.18 | Hobinheim | what's the model name for treant |
07:20.52 | Hobinheim | aww there are little polar bears |
07:20.54 | Hobinheim | that's cute |
07:27.22 | Zeal | O_o |
07:29.21 | Hobinheim | seriously though i need help finding the treant |
07:29.25 | Hobinheim | what else are treants calle |
07:30.20 | Zeal | er.. |
07:34.37 | Hobinheim | Ents |
07:34.40 | Hobinheim | they're called Ents |
07:39.50 | Zeal | indeed |
07:40.11 | Zeal | tolkien ftw |
07:41.48 | Zeal | ok.. now to track down the icons used for the new currencies |
07:42.16 | Zeal | halaa battle token, halaa reserach token, eye of the storm mark, mark of thrallmar |
07:42.29 | Zeal | oh and i need to know what the area marks are called and look like : / |
07:53.01 | Zeal | http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Cost WIP ofc. |
08:21.48 | Zeal | dammit.. got it all except the arena poitns icon now |
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08:35.35 | Apollozeus | lol |
08:35.36 | Apollozeus | whoever this silverside guy is |
08:35.36 | Apollozeus | he is full of bullshit |
08:42.13 | Zeal | erm.. |
08:42.32 | Zeal | i onyl know of him, apparently hes as full of ideas as i am but vanished :s |
08:46.22 | Zeal | from his edits today though.. he sounds like an idiot :s |
09:00.30 | Zeal | ok yeah reading his history hes either a dick or his account is comprimised. either way gets my vote to go under the band hammer, heh. |
09:03.10 | Zeal | god.. early wowwiki seems like it was just alot of hot air and egos flying around.. >_> |
09:07.09 | Adys | gonna empty my watchlist methink |
09:10.03 | Adys | You have 5886 items on your watchlist, including talk pages. |
09:10.03 | Adys | Are you sure you wish to remove them? |
09:10.10 | Adys | yes plx |
09:11.05 | Zeal | rofl |
09:17.00 | Apollozeus | lol |
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09:17.43 | dok3Dal | hi |
09:18.05 | Zeal | hey |
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10:23.42 | Zeal | what would you call Quest Item and unique? :S |
10:23.46 | Zeal | and not type.. |
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11:11.33 | Kirkburn | Bing bong |
11:13.03 | Zeal | hey hoe |
11:13.10 | Zeal | :p |
11:15.03 | Kirkburn | argh |
11:15.20 | Kirkburn | Notice anything wrong about this edit? http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=User_talk%3AKirochi&diff=417101&oldid=408533 |
11:15.59 | Zeal | yeah i noticed that to |
11:16.18 | Zeal | chat spam incoming.. |
11:16.18 | Zeal | < Thu 11/01/2007 > < 08:35:47 am > <Apollozeus> whoever this silverside guy is |
11:16.19 | Zeal | < Thu 11/01/2007 > < 08:35:51 am > <Apollozeus> he is full of bullshit |
11:16.19 | Zeal | < Thu 11/01/2007 > < 08:42:50 am > <Zeal> erm.. |
11:16.19 | Zeal | < Thu 11/01/2007 > < 08:43:10 am > <Zeal> i onyl know of him, apparently hes as full of ideas as i am but vanished :s |
11:16.20 | Zeal | < Thu 11/01/2007 > < 08:47:00 am > <Zeal> from his edits today though.. he sounds like an idiot :s |
11:16.22 | Zeal | < Thu 11/01/2007 > < 09:01:09 am > <Zeal> ok yeah reading his history hes either a dick or his account is comprimised. either way gets my vote to go under the band hammer, heh. |
11:16.25 | Zeal | < Thu 11/01/2007 > < 09:03:49 am > <Zeal> god.. early wowwiki seems like it was just alot of hot air and egos flying around.. >_> |
11:16.53 | Apollozeus | he claims the MediaWiki foundation is going to implement these "points of interest" |
11:17.02 | Apollozeus | a simple websearch reveals that claim to be false |
11:17.33 | Zeal | i can understand the idea he has |
11:17.38 | Apollozeus | oh, and... I don't see a reason to ban him actually |
11:17.41 | Zeal | but the implementation is awful |
11:17.47 | Apollozeus | he's annoying to us |
11:17.52 | Apollozeus | but.. banworthy? |
11:18.10 | Zeal | the swearing, the disregard of admin warnins, the random edits.. |
11:18.41 | Zeal | he's not actually done a single thing worth of the ban, he's just the sort of person who's just waiting to get banned by not stepping over the line. |
11:18.42 | Kirkburn | Nah, that's SS |
11:18.51 | Zeal | *but not |
11:19.00 | Kirkburn | A boy of big ideas, but little restraint |
11:19.19 | Kirkburn | I think he's 17 now |
11:19.29 | Zeal | well for someone who apparently knows alot about wiki's, he's an idiot imo. but meh. |
11:19.48 | Zeal | indeed, reminds me of cs script kiddies.. |
11:19.56 | Kirkburn | Stuff like the community portal, the village pump, and that kind of stuff is stuff he made |
11:20.06 | Apollozeus | rofl |
11:20.13 | Zeal | *cough*they suck*cough* ;) |
11:20.14 | Apollozeus | you can't credit that to them |
11:20.18 | Apollozeus | him* |
11:20.24 | Apollozeus | he copied that from wikipedia |
11:20.33 | Kirkburn | Yes, but no-one else had sorted it |
11:20.39 | Zeal | he can't even maintain his own wiki's heh. |
11:20.44 | Kirkburn | They only appeared at the end of 2005 |
11:21.23 | Apollozeus | personally, I think wowwiki is too small for both the community portal and the village pump |
11:21.28 | Zeal | well i haven't looked. but did he implement it without any sort of talk about it or consensus before hand? |
11:21.36 | Apollozeus | IMO the village pump should just be the talk page of the community portal |
11:21.39 | Kirkburn | The portal perhaps, but not the village pump |
11:22.03 | Kirkburn | That's an interesting idea |
11:22.33 | Kirkburn | Zeal, erm |
11:22.39 | Kirkburn | Probably |
11:22.52 | Apollozeus | zeal, end of 2005 |
11:22.53 | Kirkburn | Back in those days, the wiki was kinda different so far as I can tell |
11:23.05 | Apollozeus | there weren't many people at wowwiki back then :p |
11:23.24 | Kirkburn | He did great work, but eventually went too far |
11:23.41 | Zeal | yeah.. thats what i thought.. |
11:23.41 | Kirkburn | Burned out, pissed off too many people |
11:23.53 | Zeal | back then.. i could have run wild on the wiki.. lol |
11:24.25 | Kirkburn | He's got a short, intense attention span - gets a new idea, runs with it for a few days, drops it, expects someone else to pick it up |
11:24.48 | Kirkburn | Lol, well there was no-one capable of banning back then :/ |
11:25.00 | Apollozeus | haha |
11:25.06 | Zeal | well he insults you guys and the wiki enough as it is, heh. |
11:25.06 | Apollozeus | vandalism runs wild |
11:25.07 | Kirkburn | Seriously, a spam bot went on for weeks |
11:25.37 | Apollozeus | what's this Mr. Cable stuff anyway |
11:25.44 | Kirkburn | It's his name |
11:25.46 | Kirkburn | Elliot Cable |
11:25.48 | Zeal | hes been going back and editing his sigs :s |
11:25.55 | Kirkburn | The most famousest bot in the history of the wiki: http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Contributions/Puta20 |
11:26.14 | Apollozeus | lol |
11:26.17 | Apollozeus | puta is french for whore |
11:26.21 | Kirkburn | I don't appreciate someone who goes back and removed comments from talk pages that have _nothing_ to do with him :/ |
11:26.58 | Zeal | take that is the bot that used to handle most of the automated stuff for the portal? |
11:27.49 | Apollozeus | I don't appreciate people removing comments from talk pages entirely |
11:27.56 | Zeal | wait.. wtf :s |
11:28.07 | Zeal | that bod is spamming useless shit? :S |
11:28.10 | Zeal | *bot |
11:28.40 | Kirkburn | Yes |
11:28.49 | Kirkburn | It was an unblocked spam bot |
11:28.53 | Zeal | ah |
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11:29.10 | Apollozeus | he just inserted some html o.O |
11:29.16 | Apollozeus | what's the purpose of that lol |
11:29.54 | Zeal | <div id="wiki6458" style="overflow:auto; height: 1px; "></div> does nothing afaik, unless #wiki6458 is used in the css :S |
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11:30.40 | Apollozeus | well |
11:30.42 | Apollozeus | even if it did |
11:31.07 | Apollozeus | there's nothing within <div> and </div> |
11:31.31 | Apollozeus | so whatever 'wiki6458' does, it is irrelevant..since it doesn't apply to anything |
11:33.22 | Zeal | yeah, it could be used in the javascript of the css may have some styling that would ruin the page. |
11:33.27 | Zeal | *or |
11:35.46 | Apollozeus | well it obviously didn't |
11:41.20 | Zeal | oh? :p |
11:43.16 | Zeal | so very tired.. |
11:43.18 | Zeal | stupid items |
11:47.36 | Kirkburn | lol |
11:47.47 | Kirkburn | Puta20 was a weird bot |
11:48.24 | Kirkburn | I think SS's contribs must have been around 15,000+ in the end, but half his pages have since been deleted |
11:48.40 | Kirkburn | Scarily fond of subpages and templates :/ |
11:51.33 | Zeal | : / |
11:52.43 | Zeal | well to me, it seems wiki's are just a toy to him, to play around with. he doesn;t really strive to improve them or make thme better for people. he just wants to make them cool. also he seems to siffer from alt wiki itis :P |
11:52.59 | Zeal | *suffer |
11:56.50 | dotted | cool wikis are awsome |
11:58.26 | Zeal | rofl |
11:58.57 | Zeal | hm.. i do wonder, after reading RotH, is ered'ruin are a sub-species of eredar. |
11:59.01 | Zeal | *if |
11:59.32 | Kirkburn | Hoi, don't give away the story |
11:59.41 | Kirkburn | =) |
12:00.30 | Zeal | lol |
12:00.36 | Zeal | it doesn't suggest it or anything |
12:00.45 | Kirkburn | But yes, more important than anything, a wiki must be useable and editable by the uninitiated - if you put everything in subpages and templates, it isn't. It might look cool, but it'll be completely useless :P |
12:01.20 | Kirkburn | I wonder when I'll get my copy :) |
12:03.11 | Kirkburn | Hmm 16th-18th is the latest estimate :/ |
12:03.26 | Zeal | well amazon told me march.. |
12:03.50 | Zeal | but i got on.. the 4th or something :s |
12:07.46 | Kirkburn | What did you order again? |
12:10.28 | Zeal | lots of stuff, lol |
12:10.44 | Zeal | Warcraft Archive, S&L, M&M, LoC, LoM, MM&M, WoWRPG, HPG, APG |
12:14.01 | Zeal | Kirkburn, could you put up to reommend {{tooltip}} be used where ever that recommendation belongs.. just don't wanna have to go through and do more than there already is :P |
12:14.42 | Zeal | doesn't help i'm shattered and trying to do a tedious and repetative task :p |
12:43.56 | Zeal | ok.. taking a break at target dummy.. lol |
12:47.49 | Zeal | http://www.wowwiki.com/Karazhan where the hell is {{tooltipcss}} used on that?! :s |
12:52.41 | Zeal | hm.. i need to add sockets to {{tooltip}} and "this item beings a quest" bit. |
12:53.11 | Kirkburn | Or sleep. You could sleep. |
12:54.25 | Zeal | that i could |
12:54.45 | dok3Dal | Close your eyes... sleep. |
12:57.15 | Zeal | fyi i've taken it upon myself to remove the include idea from item pages (was hardly used, and is a poor idea. for now an item link is most appropriate until teomyr's tooltips can be implemented, and if it's really desired, {{tooltip}} is designed to be used for that purpose too) in the process of moving over to the tooltip template. |
12:58.28 | Zeal | i really need to make a template template.. x_X; |
12:58.50 | Zeal | so i don't have to go through the whole syntax, example, descrition, result stuff each time.. |
13:14.58 | Kirkburn | I would have suggested talking to Tekkub about that first |
13:15.53 | Tekkub | yes yes, was before the tooltip thing was even proposed |
13:16.08 | Tekkub | blame Mikk for encouraging me to help write a bot |
13:17.53 | Zeal | i saw |
13:18.39 | Zeal | my point was either way, it's not soemthing that should be done, and never needs to be done. it only works for the rollover idea as it's cosmetic and hidden. |
13:19.28 | Zeal | i'll probably add dropping on the non-default info from the tooltip when used outside the item's page. |
13:19.36 | Kirkburn | Btw, Mikk is busy atm, hence his absence |
13:19.57 | Zeal | it already scales down the tooltip when used outside it's item's page |
13:19.58 | Kirkburn | He also appears incapable of keeping normal hours :P |
13:20.03 | Zeal | rofl |
13:20.07 | Zeal | just like me |
13:20.16 | Kirkburn | =) |
13:20.32 | Zeal | ok.. well i'm gunna make soem soup and watch tv thne get to bed. |
13:23.42 | Zeal | nn all |
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14:25.44 | m0nZt3r | . |
14:25.57 | Tuqui-tuqui | .. |
14:26.19 | dok3Dal | ... |
14:26.40 | Tepetkhet | Am I the only one not on my period? |
14:27.41 | Tuqui-tuqui | ok... |
14:35.18 | equiraptor | heh |
14:38.25 | jrr | thanks for sharing. |
14:46.08 | Tuqui-tuqui | I made it to lvl31!!!! :D |
14:46.20 | jrr | woot. |
14:46.24 | Tuqui-tuqui | note to self: do NOT attack same lvl elite mobs -.- |
14:46.33 | Tuqui-tuqui | they are the 1337 haxX0r |
14:46.36 | equiraptor | You must not be playing a warlock. |
14:46.47 | Tuqui-tuqui | no :< |
14:46.49 | Tuqui-tuqui | mage |
14:47.05 | equiraptor | Ah, yes. It would be a bit harder. |
14:47.15 | equiraptor | My warlock and my hunter have both taken down same-level elites. |
14:47.32 | equiraptor | My hunter has actually taken out elites above her level. But I've also seen warlocks do that. |
14:47.53 | Tuqui-tuqui | now Ive taken down same level elites too. Even once I took down an elite 2 lvls above me... but it takes too much potions (both healing and mana) |
14:47.54 | jrr | mages get resisted against higher level stuff too much to be effective |
14:48.09 | Tuqui-tuqui | true jrr |
14:48.17 | equiraptor | Heh. See, this is without any potions. The only "consumables" would be, say, the warlock's healthstone. |
14:48.18 | jrr | (i have a 32 mage atm =]) |
14:48.25 | equiraptor | And the warlock could *grind* on same level elites. |
14:48.32 | Tuqui-tuqui | I throw 350 hit fireballs and they get resisted against :< |
14:48.54 | Tuqui-tuqui | noob mobs -.- |
14:49.02 | Tuqui-tuqui | anyhoo, last night I got to also pilot a robot :D |
14:49.04 | Tuqui-tuqui | that was cool |
14:49.05 | dok3Dal | currently hunters can kill red-level mobs around Karazan |
14:49.28 | equiraptor | dok3Dal: I don't doubt that. One of my hunters took an orange elite. :) |
14:49.33 | dok3Dal | but remember .. the game was perfectly balanced right? |
14:49.33 | Tuqui-tuqui | :o |
14:49.37 | Tuqui-tuqui | heh |
14:49.41 | equiraptor | My druid, at level 36, took out a red (non-elite). |
14:49.59 | equiraptor | She would have needed some rest between them, but that was without consumables. |
14:50.11 | Tuqui-tuqui | so what exactly is the right elite lvl for example a lvl30 mage |
14:50.17 | Tuqui-tuqui | lvl25 elite? |
14:50.19 | dok3Dal | With my (nexx geared) warrior I put one to 80% before needed to flee!!! |
14:50.21 | Tuqui-tuqui | lvl15? |
14:50.24 | equiraptor | I dunno. I send my mage after green elites, and she does OK. |
14:50.36 | equiraptor | She's a frost mage with a lot of +frost gear. |
14:50.46 | Tuqui-tuqui | oh |
14:50.59 | Tuqui-tuqui | I have divided my talents between frost and fire |
14:51.04 | Tuqui-tuqui | 10 on each tree so far |
14:51.29 | equiraptor | The added slow and frostbite (I think that's its name?) are the two most important for taking out the elites, I think. |
14:52.01 | Tuqui-tuqui | what does arcane do anyway |
14:52.04 | Tuqui-tuqui | I dont get that tree |
14:53.28 | Tuqui-tuqui | ahh... |
14:53.33 | Tuqui-tuqui | delicious hot chocolate |
14:54.02 | Tuqui-tuqui | anyhoo |
14:54.06 | Tuqui-tuqui | about the arcane tree |
14:54.28 | equiraptor | I don't think I'd like the arcane tree too much for leveling. |
14:56.36 | Tuqui-tuqui | I did get the 100% chance of critical hit in frost |
14:57.03 | Tuqui-tuqui | what Ive noticed though |
14:57.11 | Tuqui-tuqui | is that I have problems taking out water elementals |
14:57.24 | equiraptor | What 100% chance of critical hit? |
14:57.38 | equiraptor | Do you mean the 100% increase in critical strike damage? |
14:57.50 | Tuqui-tuqui | wait... is that what its called? |
14:57.51 | equiraptor | (well, damage bonus) |
14:57.57 | Tuqui-tuqui | where can I find a tree |
14:58.00 | equiraptor | Ice Shards? |
14:58.05 | Tuqui-tuqui | nonono |
14:58.06 | equiraptor | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent |
14:58.09 | Tuqui-tuqui | its something else |
14:58.22 | Tuqui-tuqui | yes |
14:58.24 | Tuqui-tuqui | Ice shards |
14:58.44 | equiraptor | That's 100% increase to your critical damage bonus, not 100% crit increase. |
14:58.49 | equiraptor | That would be extremely overpowered. |
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14:58.55 | Tuqui-tuqui | oh man ¬.¬ |
14:58.56 | nemppu | owerpowaaraad |
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14:59.52 | equiraptor | l2read. :-P |
15:03.49 | m0nZt3r | 5 days... 5 days... |
15:03.52 | m0nZt3r | ;s |
15:04.11 | dok3Dal | 5 Days to kill Gothik - 4hm- Saphiron and KT |
15:04.18 | equiraptor | 09:04 <Thor> There are: 4 days 8 hrs 56 mins 1 sec left till 12:00:00AM - Tuesday, January 16, 2007 GMT (World of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade Release) |
15:04.22 | equiraptor | ^^ A friend's bot |
15:04.30 | dok3Dal | gogogogo |
15:04.43 | m0nZt3r | sometimes I wonder if I could turn back time |
15:04.53 | m0nZt3r | but in situations like this I wonder if I could speed it up |
15:04.53 | m0nZt3r | >_< |
15:05.26 | equiraptor | date 200601160000 |
15:05.26 | equiraptor | :) |
15:05.26 | Tepetkhet | I want more time. |
15:05.31 | Tepetkhet | Because we still need to kill Onyxia. |
15:05.36 | Tepetkhet | Get everybody keyed. |
15:05.45 | m0nZt3r | omg |
15:05.55 | m0nZt3r | are there any guilds on the world that havent killed onyxia yet? |
15:05.57 | m0nZt3r | no wai |
15:06.06 | Tepetkhet | <PROTECTED> |
15:06.21 | equiraptor | My guild hasn't! Actually two out of the three guilds my characters are in haven't. |
15:06.22 | m0nZt3r | Error : you are not in game. |
15:06.29 | dok3Dal | on my server there is still guild recruiting for ... mc |
15:06.50 | equiraptor | But one of those is a leveling guild that feeds into the one that has killed ony. |
15:06.56 | equiraptor | And the other is... A different guild. :) |
15:07.11 | equiraptor | Lots of our members have killed Ony in partnerships with other guilds. |
15:07.16 | m0nZt3r | on my realm peope are going to onyxia lair just like to ubrs or strat or scholo |
15:07.20 | m0nZt3r | PuGs |
15:07.28 | equiraptor | Oh, yeah. |
15:07.38 | m0nZt3r | most of them fail but still |
15:07.41 | equiraptor | On the realm where I'm in two guilds, ony PUGs are a regular event. |
15:07.54 | equiraptor | MC PUGs happen every so often, too. |
15:08.09 | dok3Dal | we dont do Ony anymore |
15:08.48 | dok3Dal | not even for gold |
15:08.51 | equiraptor | Two levels to my frost elementals... |
15:08.53 | Tepetkhet | On my realm, there's only one or two guilds in Naxx. |
15:08.56 | m0nZt3r | too bad that i havent been to naxxramas further than grand widow faerlina yet |
15:08.57 | m0nZt3r | :( |
15:09.06 | Tepetkhet | 1 or 2 still doing BWL. |
15:09.31 | Tepetkhet | Quite a few in AQ20, ZG, and using alliances to do MC. |
15:09.32 | dok3Dal | we do bwl only for selling items to get gold |
15:09.36 | Tepetkhet | No PuG ony runs. |
15:09.39 | dok3Dal | and |
15:09.51 | dok3Dal | trying to loot my Fu**** drake fang talisman! |
15:10.06 | Tepetkhet | And to make a comment like m0nZt3r did is just either incredibly elitist or ignorant...or both. |
15:10.21 | equiraptor | Or a joke. :-P |
15:10.38 | Tuqui-tuqui | Im going to solo against Onyxia |
15:10.45 | Tuqui-tuqui | Tuqui-tuqui - 1 |
15:10.50 | Tuqui-tuqui | Onyxia - 0 |
15:11.01 | equiraptor | On that mage, right? ;P |
15:11.07 | Tuqui-tuqui | it could happen >:{ |
15:11.23 | Tuqui-tuqui | remember, everything is possible if you believe |
15:12.07 | equiraptor | s/believe/delude yourself/ |
15:12.45 | Tepetkhet | I believe I am possibly in a very pissy mood. |
15:13.33 | equiraptor | I was going to be in a very, very pissy mood, but then both my mechanic and my boyfriend did a very good job taking care of me (and my car). |
15:13.51 | equiraptor | So now, while I'm scared for the car, I have transportation. :) |
15:13.57 | Tuqui-tuqui | who took care of what :D |
15:14.11 | equiraptor | When I tried to start my car this morning, there was smoke in the passenger compartment. |
15:15.05 | equiraptor | I called the mechanic, freaking out (I'd think understandably). He gave me the number for the towing company he works with, and told me if I needed, he could come get me and let me borrow a car. |
15:15.17 | Tuqui-tuqui | AMG! |
15:15.19 | equiraptor | But then I went inside and told my boyfriend, and he said I should just take his car (he works from home) |
15:15.23 | Tekkub | just crack a window you pansy |
15:15.25 | Tuqui-tuqui | so the mechaanic took care of you |
15:15.32 | Tuqui-tuqui | and your b/f took cre of the car |
15:15.38 | Tuqui-tuqui | I cant spell! |
15:16.04 | equiraptor | So now I'm assuming the tow truck found the house (since they took my number and haven't called me for more directions). And I can get to and from work today. |
15:16.18 | equiraptor | So the only thing left is... "Is my car dead / really expensive to fix?" |
15:20.16 | Tuqui-tuqui | that must be a bug checkbook |
15:20.19 | Tuqui-tuqui | damn it! |
15:20.21 | Tuqui-tuqui | NIG* |
15:20.23 | Tuqui-tuqui | AMG! |
15:20.26 | Tuqui-tuqui | BIG! |
15:21.18 | equiraptor | Hehe |
15:21.34 | equiraptor | It is big right now, but I have some big bills to pay, too. |
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15:39.13 | Apollozeus | anyone seen the new tabard pre-tbc tabard? :p |
15:44.13 | Apollozeus | hmm, that didn't come out quite right |
15:44.29 | Tuqui-tuqui | -.- |
15:47.08 | Apollozeus | ? |
15:48.18 | Tepetkhet | You mean the Hero one? |
15:49.25 | Tepetkhet | The one you get for going to the dark portal and killing some felguards? |
15:49.58 | equiraptor | I have that protector tabard on all three of my 60s now. |
15:50.03 | equiraptor | Is was much less crowded there last night. |
15:50.40 | Apollozeus | yeah, that one |
15:50.43 | Apollozeus | it's awesome ;p |
15:50.55 | equiraptor | heh :) |
15:51.26 | Apollozeus | first tabard with some special effect to it |
15:51.44 | Apollozeus | although the effect is quite useless ;p |
15:51.48 | equiraptor | Yeah. |
15:52.00 | equiraptor | but still... An effect! Weee! yay! And easy to get! |
15:52.29 | Tepetkhet | Very easy. |
15:52.31 | Apollozeus | and limited |
15:52.40 | Apollozeus | makes you feel special after the 16th ;) |
15:52.56 | Tepetkhet | Do you have to be level 60 to get it? |
15:52.57 | equiraptor | Frustrated my friends who worked for the AD tabard, though. |
15:53.12 | Apollozeus | working for tabards? lmao |
15:54.32 | Apollozeus | Tepetkhet, I assume |
15:54.52 | Apollozeus | but you won't be able to beat the felguards way under level 60 anyway |
15:55.05 | Patrigan-Syldra | Well, if you get yourself a ^party? oO |
15:55.07 | Patrigan-Syldra | though |
15:55.08 | Patrigan-Syldra | tbh |
15:55.12 | equiraptor | My 54 pally probably could. |
15:55.17 | equiraptor | They're level 60 demons. |
15:55.22 | Apollozeus | equiraptor, try and see :p |
15:55.22 | Patrigan-Syldra | I suspect that you'll be able to get it afterwards too |
15:55.24 | equiraptor | Pallies are good at killing demons. |
15:55.26 | Patrigan-Syldra | during the invasion |
15:55.31 | equiraptor | And good at killing things leveled above them. |
15:55.48 | equiraptor | And those demons don't seem to have any special abilities. |
15:56.12 | Apollozeus | Patrigan-Syldra, tabards are to show off that the wearer has done some kind of major achievement |
15:56.17 | Apollozeus | and that quest is not really hard |
15:56.34 | Apollozeus | so I don't think it will available ad infinitum |
15:56.46 | equiraptor | Yeah, it's a limited time. |
15:56.53 | equiraptor | When the Dark Potal is open, that quest will be gone. |
15:56.58 | equiraptor | May go way before then, even. |
15:57.13 | Patrigan-Syldra | well |
15:57.16 | Patrigan-Syldra | the days after the opening |
15:57.22 | Patrigan-Syldra | there will be even more invasion |
15:57.25 | Patrigan-Syldra | from Kruul |
15:57.29 | Patrigan-Syldra | at all major cities |
15:57.30 | Apollozeus | well alright, maybe a few days after the opening |
15:57.37 | Tepetkhet | We killed ourselves a couple Alliance there, too. |
15:57.48 | Tepetkhet | We were the <and two stealthed rogues> |
15:57.49 | equiraptor | Ya know, putting your thought all on one line would make it a bit easier to read. ;) |
15:58.12 | Tepetkhet | Had a group of us there. |
15:58.21 | Apollozeus | honor farming at the dark portal :D |
15:58.33 | Tepetkhet | An orc hunter, a Tauren druid, 2 rogues, and a priest. |
15:58.42 | Tepetkhet | The hunter saw a flagged pally. |
15:58.45 | Tepetkhet | Nailed him. |
15:58.51 | Tepetkhet | And then hid INSIDE the Tauren. |
15:58.57 | Tepetkhet | Ran right up into the kodo's butt. |
15:58.58 | Tepetkhet | heh |
15:59.02 | Apollozeus | rofl |
15:59.05 | Apollozeus | was it a gnome? |
15:59.08 | Tepetkhet | Us rogues stealthed nearby. |
15:59.18 | Tepetkhet | [10:58] Tepetkhet: An orc hunter, a Tauren druid, 2 rogues, and a priest. |
15:59.24 | Apollozeus | err...nvm |
15:59.26 | Tepetkhet | heh |
15:59.34 | Tepetkhet | Reading comprehension ftl... |
15:59.35 | Apollozeus | dwarf then? |
15:59.53 | Tepetkhet | The pally was human. |
16:00.07 | Tepetkhet | But it was the HUNTER in our party who hid inside the kodo. |
16:00.13 | Apollozeus | ah |
16:00.18 | Apollozeus | nice strategy btw XD |
16:00.24 | Apollozeus | I should try that once |
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16:00.49 | Tepetkhet | Female orc hunter. |
16:00.55 | Tepetkhet | So his "footprint" is smaller. |
16:01.00 | equiraptor | Those female orcs are sexy. |
16:01.08 | Tepetkhet | He was able to hide just right inside the Tauren. |
16:01.12 | Apollozeus | I should try that with a whole bunch of gnomes |
16:01.16 | Tepetkhet | The kodo made it even better. |
16:01.25 | Tepetkhet | oh |
16:01.40 | Tepetkhet | We were killing dragons (drakes?) for the Onyxia key quest chain last night. |
16:02.03 | Tepetkhet | And we kited Chronalis (I think that's his name) from the Caverns of Time up to Gadgetzan. |
16:02.05 | Tepetkhet | That was fun. |
16:03.35 | Apollozeus | haha |
16:03.42 | Tuqui-tuqui | I once killed a rabbit :D |
16:03.54 | Apollozeus | did the goblins kill him there, tep? |
16:03.54 | Tuqui-tuqui | it was a sad day for rabbit kind :< |
16:04.25 | Apollozeus | WOW tough soldier you are Tuqui-tuqui |
16:04.38 | Tepetkhet | The goblins took the dragon down pretty fast. |
16:04.44 | Tepetkhet | But the hunter got the last shot in. |
16:04.45 | Tepetkhet | heh |
16:04.58 | Tepetkhet | It was pretty funny. |
16:04.59 | Apollozeus | hmm interesting...so neutral factions attack those things as well D: |
16:05.45 | Tepetkhet | Kinda like the guard around Tarren Mill attacking the spiders and bears that get too close. |
16:06.14 | Apollozeus | stormwind guards killing hogger ;) |
16:06.48 | equiraptor | Ah, hogger. |
16:07.03 | Apollozeus | damn blizzard for their new realms |
16:07.11 | Apollozeus | they should name one after Hogger already :( |
16:07.17 | equiraptor | heh |
16:07.22 | equiraptor | Yes, they should. ;) |
16:07.27 | jrr | groffle |
16:07.28 | jrr | i'd roll on it |
16:07.43 | Apollozeus | so would I |
16:08.02 | Apollozeus | I can only imagine the high frequency at which hogger would be killed on that realm |
16:08.13 | equiraptor | heh |
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16:53.01 | Bagginsww | Hmm so orc warlocks have the ability to age orcs before their time so they can be strong enough to fight... |
16:53.11 | Bagginsww | Garona anyone? |
16:53.52 | Apollozeus | o.O where did get that from? |
16:53.57 | Bagginsww | rise of the horde |
16:54.22 | Bagginsww | I'm just saying what if it was used on Garona? |
16:54.35 | Bagginsww | she could still have been born to humans |
16:54.40 | Bagginsww | orc/humans |
16:54.46 | Apollozeus | I dunno D: |
16:55.12 | Bagginsww | infact it becomes a manditory practice |
16:55.16 | Bagginsww | for the Horde |
16:55.25 | Bagginsww | to age all newborns to at least 12 years old |
16:55.30 | Bagginsww | when they are strong enought to fight |
16:56.04 | Tuqui-tuqui | 0.o |
16:56.09 | Bagginsww | they institute by law that all orcs are to procreate whenever possible |
16:56.15 | Bagginsww | to add to their ranks |
16:56.19 | Tuqui-tuqui | what about the children I see in Crossroads :| |
16:56.26 | Bagginsww | born after |
16:56.35 | Bagginsww | those are naturally born |
16:56.44 | Bagginsww | we are talking about old HOrde |
16:56.49 | Tuqui-tuqui | ahhhh.... |
16:56.50 | Tuqui-tuqui | kk |
16:57.14 | Bagginsww | Old Horde is coming across as very tolitarian to me... |
16:57.24 | Tuqui-tuqui | totalitarian? |
16:57.35 | Bagginsww | some nazi type practices |
16:57.53 | Bagginsww | like the whole procreating to create more troops |
16:58.12 | Bagginsww | baby farms |
16:58.18 | Tuqui-tuqui | I be willing to participate if the US made it mandatory :D |
16:58.23 | Bagginsww | lol |
16:59.45 | Bagginsww | The funny thing is I seem to recall speculating on concept of speed aging, and people laughed me off |
17:02.53 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Garona_Halforcen#Warlock_aging |
17:04.23 | Bagginsww | the creepy thing is this means that every time you "train" a new orc you are probably using this spell LOL |
17:04.30 | Bagginsww | back in warcraft 1 & 2 |
17:04.39 | Tepetkhet | We do not need more babies. |
17:04.47 | Tepetkhet | Planet's overpopulated as it is. |
17:04.54 | Tepetkhet | But I'd be happy to go through the motions. |
17:05.15 | Bagginsww | lol |
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17:20.34 | Hobinheim | every time you make an alt, god kills a critter |
17:21.01 | Tepetkhet | hah |
17:21.44 | equiraptor | I've caused lots of critter deaths, then. :) |
17:21.51 | Bagginsww | bbut there is no god only the Light |
17:22.01 | Bagginsww | j/k |
17:22.23 | Bagginsww | only said that cause you said the common warcraft term for small furry animals |
17:22.28 | Bagginsww | critter |
17:22.49 | equiraptor | Well, there's a goddess. |
17:23.20 | Bagginsww | and there may be other gods as well |
17:23.29 | Bagginsww | not just demigods |
17:24.16 | Bagginsww | and the Old Gods? |
17:24.35 | Bagginsww | lots of gods LOL |
17:24.50 | Hobinheim | elune |
17:25.08 | Hobinheim | every time you masturbate, cenarius roots a kitten |
17:25.46 | Apollozeus | <Bagginsww> bbut there is no god only the Light |
17:25.49 | Apollozeus | BLASPHEMY |
17:26.06 | Apollozeus | Earth Mother ftw <_< |
17:26.06 | Hobinheim | lore question |
17:26.14 | Hobinheim | are treants a generic form of something else |
17:26.16 | Bagginsww | heh heh |
17:26.19 | Hobinheim | the model viewer calls them ents |
17:26.31 | Apollozeus | ents lol |
17:26.34 | Apollozeus | wow ripoff |
17:26.36 | Apollozeus | err |
17:26.36 | Bagginsww | they were ents or treents back in warcraft 3 |
17:26.38 | Apollozeus | lotr ripoff |
17:26.44 | Bagginsww | ents predate LOTR though |
17:26.47 | Hobinheim | what are they called in lotr |
17:26.49 | Hobinheim | oh |
17:26.52 | Hobinheim | ents? |
17:26.55 | Apollozeus | yeah |
17:26.57 | Bagginsww | ya |
17:27.10 | Bagginsww | just one of many things Tolkien dervived from older mythology |
17:27.24 | Bagginsww | usually scandnavia/norse, etc |
17:27.35 | Bagginsww | some britain legends as well |
17:28.31 | Bagginsww | although the traditional ents were more giants apparently |
17:28.40 | Bagginsww | rather than being giant trees |
17:28.51 | Apollozeus | (Move log); 18:18 . . Ballistae (Talk | contribs) (Paladin's as Tanks moved to Paladins as Tanks: spelling) |
17:28.58 | Hobinheim | did you know the model viewer also calls that boss "KATHUN" |
17:29.01 | Hobinheim | err KATHUNE |
17:29.08 | Hobinheim | so that should signal how to pronounce it, without a doubt |
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17:29.34 | Apollozeus | pronounce what? |
17:29.37 | Bagginsww | which would kind of point to the Cthulu etymology I tink |
17:29.44 | Hobinheim | c'thune? |
17:29.54 | Hobinheim | some people say sea thoone apparently |
17:29.58 | Apollozeus | c'thun <-- |
17:30.09 | Bagginsww | Cthulu, Ka thulu |
17:30.34 | Bagginsww | I've always pronoucned Kathoon |
17:30.49 | Apollozeus | see-thoon for me |
17:31.18 | Apollozeus | c'thun must be glad tbc comes out pretty soon |
17:31.24 | Bagginsww | LOL |
17:31.29 | Apollozeus | he'll probably be a killed a lot less frequently |
17:31.30 | Bagginsww | people will go back to get their staff |
17:31.39 | Bagginsww | at level 70 |
17:31.41 | Bagginsww | LOL |
17:31.53 | Apollozeus | I suspect we'll get a lot of AQ40 PUGs |
17:31.55 | Bagginsww | always possibilities of later patches adding in heroic modes |
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17:32.10 | Bagginsww | for new loot tables |
17:32.19 | Apollozeus | there's already a big load of endgame content in tbc |
17:32.37 | Apollozeus | imagine if we added the current endgame content |
17:32.43 | Apollozeus | a LOT of instances |
17:32.46 | Bagginsww | heh heh |
17:32.50 | Bagginsww | but 40 man instances, ;) |
17:32.57 | Bagginsww | cheap way out of making "new" ones |
17:33.02 | Apollozeus | yes |
17:33.16 | Apollozeus | especially when they have yet to open the black temple and zul'aman |
17:33.42 | Hobinheim | i'm so burnt out from work last night... |
17:33.42 | Bagginsww | and there are certain things that drop that are still intended to be part of TBC end game content |
17:33.42 | Hobinheim | all i want to do today is read forums |
17:33.42 | Bagginsww | like the ashbringer quest line |
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17:33.42 | Hobinheim | and find updates for my broken mods =( |
17:33.53 | Bagginsww | and staff ability |
17:34.14 | Bagginsww | plus Argent Dawn token upgrade seems to point towards TBC use |
17:34.26 | Bagginsww | as it adds on +damage to demons |
17:34.32 | Apollozeus | that doesn't say anything about the instances though |
17:34.58 | Bagginsww | from what I hear though naxx accidently went heroic mode |
17:35.02 | Bagginsww | don't know if they fixed it |
17:35.12 | Adys | lol |
17:35.13 | Bagginsww | but it was near impossible to kill patchwork at level 70 |
17:35.32 | Bagginsww | all the abilities had been upped |
17:35.40 | Apollozeus | naxx in heroic mode would be a possibility |
17:35.52 | Apollozeus | but not too many other instances |
17:36.00 | Bagginsww | no real reason to do with with AQ40 though |
17:36.11 | Apollozeus | don't think MC or BWL are ever going heroic |
17:36.22 | Bagginsww | no point |
17:36.39 | Apollozeus | I'd like the deadmines in heroic mode though |
17:36.39 | Apollozeus | ;p |
17:36.42 | Bagginsww | LOL |
17:36.47 | Bagginsww | level 70 heroic mode |
17:36.49 | Bagginsww | LOL |
17:37.03 | Bagginsww | questlines called "Return to the Dead Mines" |
17:37.10 | Adys | tbh i agree |
17:37.20 | Adys | id love to see some low lvl instances at 70 heroic mode |
17:37.23 | Bagginsww | maybe open up the areas of the deadmines where Lothar was once held |
17:37.26 | Hobinheim | does feeding a hunter's pet really offset soulshards? |
17:37.26 | Bagginsww | the old ruins |
17:37.41 | Bagginsww | add some nasty slimes |
17:38.45 | Bagginsww | I suggested an idea to Blizzard for a Gnomeregan city mode |
17:38.58 | Bagginsww | for people who complete the Gnomeregan quests |
17:39.13 | Bagginsww | or at least kill final boss |
17:39.23 | Bagginsww | through a switch you could turn it into a gnome city |
17:39.38 | Bagginsww | unswitch it for instance mode |
17:40.00 | Bagginsww | so that the gnome's story can actually have progression |
17:40.15 | jrr | i've thought a bit about that |
17:40.21 | Bagginsww | be kind of cool to go there and get some quests that lead you to outland and beyond |
17:40.39 | Bagginsww | horde could have a way to accessing city mode as well to raid it |
17:40.42 | jrr | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Jrr#Story_Progression |
17:41.55 | Bagginsww | stuff like that should be accessed through cavern's of time heh heh |
17:42.48 | Bagginsww | maybe make a eastern kingdom's version fo cavern's of time as well |
17:43.01 | jrr | caverns |
17:43.08 | Bagginsww | *caverns yes |
17:43.40 | Bagginsww | anyone ever wonder what hte portal in inner sanctum is for |
17:43.56 | Bagginsww | I mean besides the one that takes you to the outside of hte tower |
17:44.28 | jrr | in the mage tower? |
17:44.53 | jrr | my highest mage is 32; i'd figured some quest would take you through the portal at a higher level |
17:45.01 | Hobinheim | is it true that stratholme has undead housing? |
17:45.16 | jrr | ? |
17:45.24 | Hobinheim | is it also true that stormwind already has playering housing somewhere in it? |
17:45.37 | Bagginsww | uh there is a instance gate |
17:45.41 | Bagginsww | at the back of the city |
17:45.43 | Bagginsww | by the sewers |
17:45.49 | Bagginsww | that's been speculated to lead to player housing |
17:45.52 | Bagginsww | but its not in game |
17:45.58 | Bagginsww | as for stratholme? |
17:46.00 | Bagginsww | huh |
17:47.12 | Bagginsww | oh ya also interesting thing in Roth it establishes two more Orc clans LOL |
17:47.25 | Bagginsww | *orc |
17:47.46 | Bagginsww | bladewind, and redwalkers |
17:48.30 | Bagginsww | as if the main clans we hear about all the time wasn't enough heh heh ;) |
17:49.07 | Hobinheim | do you remember the orc rogue unique item quest at level 1 |
17:49.15 | Hobinheim | it says something about working for the shattered hand. what is it |
17:49.20 | Hobinheim | **what is that about |
17:49.26 | Bagginsww | haven't played an orc rogue |
17:49.34 | Hobinheim | like who's the shattered hand? |
17:49.45 | Hobinheim | are all orc rogues pretending to work for someone? |
17:49.47 | Bagginsww | one of the main 12 clans |
17:49.55 | Hobinheim | are they not under thrall? |
17:50.02 | Bagginsww | uh some probably are |
17:50.10 | Bagginsww | Thrall's horde is a mixmatch of many clans |
17:50.33 | Bagginsww | except of course Twilight's Hammer LOL |
17:50.46 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Shattered_Hand |
17:51.00 | Bagginsww | they probably don't have Burning Blade either |
17:51.14 | Bagginsww | well not officially, some have infiltrated |
17:51.56 | Hobinheim | i dunno my reading comprehension is really bad... |
17:52.03 | Hobinheim | at some point in time, i want to sit down and read every quest |
17:52.07 | Hobinheim | like fuck the grind |
17:52.09 | Hobinheim | i wanna know more about wow |
17:52.13 | Hobinheim | i keep getting rushed n shit |
17:52.15 | Hobinheim | know what i mean |
17:52.20 | Bagginsww | yes :p |
17:52.22 | Bagginsww | I hate leveling |
17:52.23 | Hobinheim | like some things are just fascinating |
17:52.31 | Hobinheim | tauren REALLY love their fucking peace pipe/juice |
17:52.34 | Hobinheim | spirit vision my ass |
17:52.39 | Bagginsww | I sit down and read the quests |
17:52.43 | Hobinheim | the books too |
17:52.46 | Bagginsww | if I don't have the time while leveling I screenshot them |
17:52.48 | Hobinheim | chock full of knowledge |
17:53.00 | Hobinheim | i've been meaning to settle down with one of those book saver mods |
17:53.07 | jrr | my favorite quest might be the forsaken's pumpkin theft |
17:53.14 | jrr | "steal their pumpkins! that'll show them!" |
17:53.17 | Bagginsww | LOL |
17:53.22 | Bagginsww | don't they poison them? |
17:53.32 | nemppu | yeah |
17:53.41 | nemppu | and then feed to captured human |
17:53.44 | nemppu | which turns into a ghoul |
17:53.47 | Bagginsww | poisoned pumpkins, such a nice trick |
17:53.48 | jrr | later in the chain, they poison a pumkin and feed it to a captured dude in the inn basement |
17:54.03 | Bagginsww | they are so evil :p |
17:55.22 | Bagginsww | but of course that was mainly an apothecary quest right? |
17:56.15 | Hobinheim | kill the doggie |
17:56.22 | Bagginsww | LOL |
17:56.36 | Bagginsww | They need some more dog variety in the game |
17:56.51 | Bagginsww | instead of thw wolfs colored like collies LOL |
17:57.15 | Apollozeus | I agree |
17:57.17 | Bagginsww | add some poodles |
17:57.19 | Apollozeus | D: |
17:57.20 | Bagginsww | LOL |
17:57.21 | Apollozeus | XD |
17:57.33 | Bagginsww | cooshie for the blood elf lands |
17:57.51 | Apollozeus | there are cat critters in eversong, right? |
17:58.00 | Bagginsww | uh average stuff |
17:58.06 | Bagginsww | mutant deer in ghostlands |
17:58.11 | Bagginsww | cats |
17:58.21 | Bagginsww | they ahve alot of cats |
17:58.25 | Bagginsww | black cats LOL |
17:58.37 | Bagginsww | and non interactive animated brooms |
17:58.37 | Apollozeus | do they also sell cats? |
17:58.44 | Bagginsww | uh don't think so |
17:58.50 | Apollozeus | ): |
17:58.52 | Bagginsww | not sure what there starting pet is though |
17:59.01 | Apollozeus | some baby hawkstrider? |
17:59.04 | Bagginsww | maybe manaworms? |
17:59.13 | Apollozeus | would be a possibility |
17:59.21 | Apollozeus | hmm.. lemme see if I can find it |
17:59.26 | Tuqui-tuqui | hmm... |
17:59.28 | Bagginsww | manaworms look like chinese dragons |
17:59.32 | Tuqui-tuqui | how do you tank a dragon |
17:59.39 | Apollozeus | you don't |
17:59.43 | Apollozeus | 50 DKP MINUS |
17:59.46 | Bagginsww | as a mage I don't LOL |
17:59.51 | Tuqui-tuqui | XD |
18:00.05 | Bagginsww | I can single keel some dragons |
18:00.08 | Bagginsww | *kill |
18:00.23 | Bagginsww | damn I hate when my hands type something other than what my mind is thinking :p |
18:00.30 | Bagginsww | stupid phonetics :p |
18:00.43 | Bagginsww | Phoniks worx fer mee |
18:00.45 | Hobinheim | are you not american? |
18:00.50 | Hobinheim | do you i have to put you in the adys box? |
18:00.53 | Tuqui-tuqui | so what do you do in front of a dragon then |
18:01.10 | Apollozeus | http://www.thottbot.com/beta?s=worm <-- no worm pets in TBC |
18:01.14 | Bagginsww | American yes :p... Just minor learning disabilities :p |
18:01.16 | Tuqui-tuqui | and I dont mean a regular dragon :D |
18:01.17 | Adys | hob every time you mention my name in here I hear a loud "ding ding ding" from miranda :| |
18:01.19 | Hobinheim | let the record show i don't really like the word clan |
18:01.27 | Hobinheim | shattered hand should just be... shattered hand... |
18:01.28 | Hobinheim | =( |
18:01.31 | Bagginsww | mind works faster than my hands |
18:01.34 | Hobinheim | i feel like moving all those articles back |
18:01.39 | Apollozeus | you know you like the ding Adys |
18:01.48 | Hobinheim | sorry mate |
18:01.48 | Bagginsww | and hands don't always work with my mind |
18:01.53 | Hobinheim | no more a d y s |
18:02.13 | Hobinheim | i was starting to get suspicious as to why you would always respond when i zing you |
18:02.26 | Bagginsww | zing? |
18:02.41 | Hobinheim | zing. |
18:02.41 | Adys | lol |
18:02.52 | Adys | thats how awesome miranda is aint it ^ |
18:02.59 | Hobinheim | i'm just warning you guys, one day i'm gonna peruse through the clan articles and revert all of them |
18:02.59 | Adys | no srsly i love it |
18:03.38 | Apollozeus | Bagginsww |
18:03.40 | Apollozeus | found'd out |
18:03.41 | Apollozeus | http://www.blizzardguides.com/wow_vanity_pets.html |
18:03.56 | Bagginsww | which section? |
18:03.59 | Apollozeus | Golden Dragonhawk Hatchling - vendor; BoU |
18:03.59 | Apollozeus | Description: Orangish-gold dragonhawk |
18:03.59 | Apollozeus | Affiliation: horde (Blood Elf) |
18:03.59 | Apollozeus | Rarity: common |
18:03.59 | Apollozeus | Sold by: Jilanne for 50s - Fairbreeze Village, Eversong Woods |
18:04.19 | Bagginsww | interesting |
18:04.19 | Apollozeus | also in red and silver |
18:04.20 | Apollozeus | <_< |
18:04.31 | Bagginsww | its moths for draenei? |
18:04.42 | Apollozeus | yeah ;x |
18:04.49 | Bagginsww | LOL |
18:04.58 | Apollozeus | guess I'm just gonna stick with the cats and praerie dogs |
18:04.59 | Bagginsww | I think I ran into that vendor |
18:05.23 | Bagginsww | I still say blood elves have Chocobos, Kweh! |
18:05.44 | Bagginsww | they look almost exactly like the chocobos in the last couple of Final Fantasies |
18:05.45 | Apollozeus | oh and |
18:05.52 | Apollozeus | the mana thingies you mentioned |
18:06.09 | Apollozeus | they're also purchasable |
18:06.13 | Bagginsww | interesting |
18:06.19 | Bagginsww | so they have two pet choices |
18:06.24 | Apollozeus | Sold by: Dealer Rashaad for 40g - The Stormspire |
18:06.31 | Apollozeus | no, not exclusive blood elf stuff |
18:06.31 | Bagginsww | oh |
18:06.34 | Bagginsww | nice |
18:06.39 | Apollozeus | pretty damn expensive though |
18:06.42 | Bagginsww | ya |
18:06.45 | Apollozeus | 40g for some gimmick :/ |
18:06.52 | Bagginsww | everything is expensive in outland LOL |
18:07.05 | Apollozeus | I heard it's pretty easy to come across gold |
18:07.15 | Bagginsww | I still haven't heard what the drop rate is there |
18:07.32 | Bagginsww | they'll have to institute a platinum level |
18:07.34 | Bagginsww | lol |
18:07.58 | Bagginsww | has anyone figured out why gold bars are worth less than gold? |
18:07.59 | Apollozeus | kinda weird though |
18:08.01 | Apollozeus | platinum gold |
18:08.03 | Bagginsww | lol |
18:08.14 | Bagginsww | platinum is worth more than gold |
18:08.17 | Apollozeus | err |
18:08.22 | Apollozeus | platinum coins*/ |
18:08.25 | Bagginsww | yes |
18:08.35 | Bagginsww | the LoC discusses the possibility |
18:08.59 | Bagginsww | only thing is currently platinum is mostly just used for ornamentation |
18:09.33 | Bagginsww | perhaps too rare to turn into a coinage system. |
18:09.38 | Apollozeus | they could introduce some kind of 'magic door' |
18:09.42 | jrr | a new currency denomination would be great, but would it be 1 plat = 100G for (for uniformity with gold to silver and silver to copper) or 1 plat = 1000G |
18:09.43 | Apollozeus | mana coins |
18:10.02 | Bagginsww | who knows |
18:10.12 | Apollozeus | enchanted coins |
18:10.14 | Apollozeus | rainbow coins |
18:10.16 | Bagginsww | lol |
18:10.20 | Bagginsww | happy coins? |
18:10.26 | Apollozeus | gay coins? >_> |
18:10.28 | Apollozeus | colored pink |
18:10.39 | Bagginsww | only for the blood elves |
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18:10.56 | Apollozeus | and gnomes |
18:11.02 | Apollozeus | I mean... a race with pink 'taches |
18:11.03 | Bagginsww | nah only blood elves, have you heard their sayings? |
18:11.04 | Apollozeus | :/ |
18:11.12 | Apollozeus | of course I have |
18:11.37 | Apollozeus | "don't you wish your girlfriend was hot like me" |
18:11.40 | Bagginsww | LOL |
18:11.43 | Apollozeus | said by a MALE blood elf |
18:11.45 | Apollozeus | /joke |
18:11.48 | Bagginsww | yes |
18:12.00 | Teomyr | wtf? |
18:12.06 | Apollozeus | the draenei female used to say "do gnomes come with vibrating features" |
18:12.10 | Apollozeus | but that was patched out :( |
18:12.15 | Bagginsww | LOL |
18:12.40 | Bagginsww | we need to add sound uploading feature to wowwiki |
18:12.51 | Bagginsww | upload some of these lost jokes LOL |
18:12.57 | Apollozeus | lost jokes? |
18:13.02 | Bagginsww | as in patched out jokes |
18:13.07 | Apollozeus | they were all over the internet when they leaked |
18:13.09 | Teomyr | uhh, be careful |
18:13.11 | Bagginsww | sigh like the lost troll joke :p |
18:13.17 | Apollozeus | right before alpha went live |
18:13.37 | Teomyr | remember the hot coffee mod for gta:sa and what trouble it caused? :P |
18:13.45 | Bagginsww | LOL |
18:13.45 | Apollozeus | Teomyr |
18:13.54 | Apollozeus | the coffee mod wasn't made by rockstar |
18:14.00 | Apollozeus | these jokes WERE made by blizzard |
18:14.11 | Bagginsww | coffee mod just unlocked something that was in game |
18:14.20 | Bagginsww | and exspanded on it |
18:14.24 | Bagginsww | *expanded |
18:14.35 | Bagginsww | but sound files aren't mods |
18:14.40 | Apollozeus | oh and, sounds are less provocative than imaginery |
18:15.12 | Bagginsww | someone needs to get the sound file from TFT that explains that Illidan wasn't killed |
18:15.35 | Bagginsww | It was for a deleted scene |
18:15.39 | Mory | belf female joke: Do gnomes have a vibrator? Just wondering.. |
18:15.50 | Bagginsww | lol |
18:15.56 | Apollozeus | hmm.. |
18:16.03 | Bagginsww | that one is worse |
18:16.06 | Bagginsww | LOL |
18:16.31 | Apollozeus | that's the exact quote |
18:16.51 | Mory | ^^ |
18:16.54 | Bagginsww | When we arrived here I lost many jewels that had been in my family for generations. If you could get your hands on my family jewels I would be deeply appreciative." |
18:17.02 | Apollozeus | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7356708322203507049 |
18:17.04 | Apollozeus | there |
18:17.39 | Apollozeus | so many bad cow puns as well |
18:17.40 | Bagginsww | "Normally I only ride on epic mounts but...let's talk." |
18:17.40 | Apollozeus | :p |
18:17.42 | Mory | zomg...dirty... |
18:18.17 | Apollozeus | you don't have a lower jaw |
18:18.27 | Apollozeus | and you gonna give ME a facial? |
18:18.30 | Bagginsww | lol |
18:18.40 | Mory | and the wisdom..ghhh just give me some magic! |
18:19.05 | Apollozeus | we're allied with the tauren? we'kk be having steak twice a week |
18:19.08 | Apollozeus | we'll* |
18:19.12 | Bagginsww | LOL |
18:19.13 | equiraptor | Mmmmm, steak. |
18:19.41 | Apollozeus | O_O |
18:19.53 | Apollozeus | the draenei are even worse than the blood elves |
18:19.59 | equiraptor | Oh? |
18:20.05 | Apollozeus | "are you thinking what I am thinking?" |
18:20.11 | Tepetkhet | Draenei females are dirty. |
18:20.15 | Tepetkhet | Dirty dirty dirty. |
18:20.19 | Bagginsww | LOL |
18:20.19 | Bagginsww | gnomes |
18:20.26 | equiraptor | Well, that decides it. I guess i'm rolling a male. |
18:20.34 | Tepetkhet | Their flirts and sillies are quite... |
18:20.39 | Tepetkhet | O_O |
18:20.39 | Bagginsww | their jokes make little sense though |
18:20.43 | Tepetkhet | Oh? |
18:20.50 | Bagginsww | I mean as far as gnome connection |
18:21.02 | Bagginsww | they are allies with the gnomes LOL |
18:21.08 | Apollozeus | wtf |
18:21.16 | Bagginsww | and they want to eat them and beat them? |
18:21.20 | Apollozeus | "for mating rituals we will need four...no...five sheep.. |
18:21.21 | equiraptor | Is there a list of their flirts and sillys? |
18:21.26 | equiraptor | I can't view video at work. |
18:21.28 | Bagginsww | joke |
18:21.33 | Bagginsww | in wowwiki |
18:21.51 | Apollozeus | "for mating rituals we will need four...no...five sheep..a gnome and staff of domination" |
18:22.05 | Bagginsww | and topic Flirt |
18:22.15 | Apollozeus | jesus these guys are sex freaks |
18:22.19 | Apollozeus | draenei women are such hoes |
18:22.20 | Apollozeus | ;p |
18:22.43 | Tepetkhet | yeah |
18:22.49 | Bagginsww | "I want you to *lick and splat* my *gurgling noises* *slurping noises*" |
18:22.51 | Tepetkhet | They got some junk in their trunk, too. |
18:22.52 | equiraptor | Thanks, Bagginsww. :) |
18:23.03 | Tepetkhet | Shake it, girlfriend. |
18:23.08 | Bagginsww | draenei have a nice dance though |
18:23.12 | Tepetkhet | The men |
18:23.15 | Tepetkhet | The tunak tunak dance |
18:23.16 | Tepetkhet | heh |
18:23.20 | Bagginsww | male draenei are the only dance that has sounds |
18:23.22 | Tepetkhet | CRACKS me up. |
18:23.23 | Apollozeus | "do gnomes have vibrate settings? I'm just curious.." |
18:23.30 | Tepetkhet | heh |
18:23.33 | Apollozeus | what sound, bag? |
18:23.41 | Bagginsww | "You have heard of the Exodar? I will show you the Sexodar!" |
18:23.47 | Tuqui-tuqui | -.- |
18:23.47 | Tepetkhet | Yes |
18:23.48 | Tepetkhet | hah |
18:23.57 | Tepetkhet | Blood Elves are just so...vain. :( |
18:23.58 | Bagginsww | I think some of these won't make it to release |
18:24.20 | Bagginsww | stupid censors |
18:24.31 | Bagginsww | rating systems are stupid LOL |
18:24.39 | Mory | One time I laughed so hard I milked all over the floor. |
18:24.45 | Mory | ^^ |
18:24.48 | Bagginsww | ya it say smost were removed |
18:24.58 | Tuqui-tuqui | ¬.¬ |
18:25.02 | Teomyr | now in stores: wow tbc, uncensored hardcore edition |
18:25.09 | equiraptor | Yes, I think my draenei will be a male. |
18:25.09 | Apollozeus | rofl |
18:25.19 | Bagginsww | probably couldn't make it past the ESRB |
18:25.23 | equiraptor | I'm not interested in playing a draenei slut. |
18:25.27 | Apollozeus | World of Warcraft: The Burning XXX |
18:25.31 | Teomyr | lol |
18:25.38 | Bagginsww | they have only 2 flirts left :p |
18:25.44 | equiraptor | I have enough sluts as it is. |
18:25.57 | Tepetkhet | hahaha |
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18:26.02 | Bagginsww | Blizzards are idiots for trying to come up with jokes that would be censored int he first place |
18:26.15 | Bagginsww | so now the draenei have few jokes/flirts :p; |
18:26.33 | Bagginsww | Oh darling, I love it when you say *indistinct growling* *repeated yell*" |
18:26.39 | Sunday83 | Hi! Can you help me? I need to download interface.mpq... |
18:26.39 | Hobinheim | forum topic: |
18:26.40 | Apollozeus | XD |
18:26.43 | Bagginsww | "You know, what happens in Shadowmoon Valley stays in Shadowmoon Valley." |
18:26.49 | Hobinheim | what is it trivia-wise that you know more than your constituents |
18:26.58 | Bagginsww | "I will now speak words of love to you in the language of our people. Oomwa, ubuaglahm *coughs* *clears throat*." |
18:26.59 | Tepetkhet | Well, have you heard the troll flirts? |
18:27.33 | Bagginsww | "Would you be offended if I said that you had a beautiful transgoto? The other one, that's not bad either." |
18:27.36 | Bagginsww | transwhat? |
18:27.37 | Tepetkhet | When excited and enraged, a troll female can mate over 80 times in one night. Are you prepared? |
18:27.39 | Tepetkhet | Something like that. |
18:27.44 | Apollozeus | blizzard's employees are a bunch of sexually frustrated geeks ;) |
18:27.48 | Bagginsww | that one sounds like animal channel |
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18:28.15 | equiraptor | Hrm... I may be able to fix that for them... |
18:28.20 | equiraptor | Er, did I say that outloud? |
18:28.30 | Apollozeus | rofl |
18:28.32 | Bagginsww | lol |
18:28.54 | Bagginsww | I want stargate version of the expansion |
18:29.03 | Bagginsww | level 75 and 3 proffessions |
18:29.10 | Bagginsww | LOL |
18:29.27 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_on_Stargate_Atlantis |
18:29.38 | Tepetkhet | hahaha |
18:30.01 | Apollozeus | XD |
18:30.13 | Apollozeus | I should be able to photoshop a box for that though |
18:30.21 | Bagginsww | LOL |
18:30.55 | Bagginsww | I bet he was upset after they added the later patches, ;) |
18:31.20 | Bagginsww | that character is sexually frustrated geek |
18:31.29 | Bagginsww | he's always hitting on Carter |
18:31.44 | Bagginsww | erm well not as much as the other guy on atlantis |
18:32.01 | Bagginsww | McKay |
18:32.20 | Bagginsww | I mean that guy actually has dreams aobut Carter |
18:32.31 | Bagginsww | in the nude LOL |
18:32.59 | Tuqui-tuqui | 0.o |
18:33.06 | Bagginsww | I guess alot of characters are interested in Carter in the show LOL |
18:33.47 | Mory | evil patch notes (april joke) # Using friendly emotes will now significantly increase the Infernal and Doomguard's chance to remain loyal to the Warlock. |
18:33.47 | Mory | # Friendly emotes are no longer available to the Warlock. |
18:34.23 | Bagginsww | LOL |
18:34.52 | Bagginsww | has anyone found the webpage for the battlgrounds replaced with warcraft III? |
18:34.53 | Mory | http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_1.11_%28Evil_Patch_Notes%29 |
18:37.33 | Bagginsww | LOL |
18:40.12 | Teomyr | lol "New wing added to Scarlet Monastery called the Graveyard! Check it out!" |
18:40.32 | equiraptor | heh |
18:44.04 | Apollozeus | haha |
18:44.08 | Apollozeus | "The non-combat pet 'Murky' will now be required from every player wishing to enter Onyxia's Lair as we wanted this raid encounter to feel very special." |
18:48.48 | Bagginsww | found it |
18:48.53 | Bagginsww | thank you wayback machine :p |
18:49.00 | Bagginsww | http://web.archive.org/web/20050403083755/http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/#newBG |
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18:50.46 | Teomyr | lol, nice |
18:54.52 | Bagginsww | Ok apparently on EU website there was a joke for "warbucks coffee" |
18:55.01 | Bagginsww | we must track that down heh heh |
18:59.36 | Bagginsww | someone vandalized the evil patch notes? |
19:00.50 | Adys | # |
19:00.50 | Adys | # Above the corpse of Mankirk's wife, a large red arrow will now appear and be viewable for up to 500 yards. To ensure that the associated quest offers some challenge, typing the word 'Mankirk' 'wife' or 'anyone seen' in Barrens chat will now result in experience loss. |
19:00.54 | Adys | <3 |
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19:01.48 | Kirkburn | I'm at Uni :D |
19:02.07 | Tepetkhet | Mankirk?? |
19:02.08 | Tepetkhet | heh |
19:02.11 | Tepetkhet | Mankrik |
19:02.19 | Bagginsww | wow |
19:02.31 | Bagginsww | lol |
19:02.42 | Tepetkhet | Somebody made a female orc char named Mankrikswife and ran out into The Barrens to die. |
19:02.51 | Bagginsww | LOL |
19:03.02 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Warbucks |
19:03.12 | Bagginsww | found it |
19:03.20 | Bagginsww | and its now in the wowwik :) |
19:03.55 | Bagginsww | unfortunatly the gif that's related to it appears to be gone |
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19:10.52 | Kirkburn | Yes, in a twist that surely suprises no-one, Blizzard announces that WoW now has over 8,000,000 subscribers worldwide. This includes 2 million in North America, 1.5 million in Europe, and 3.5 million in China |
19:10.58 | Kirkburn | (twas a quote) |
19:11.05 | Adys | lol |
19:11.05 | Bagginsww | sigh that's too bad that they completely removed the wandering Rexxar |
19:11.08 | temujin | 3.5 million farmers |
19:11.09 | temujin | wow |
19:11.14 | Adys | haha |
19:11.16 | Bagginsww | means main world azeroth is even more static |
19:11.31 | Kirkburn | hwaa? |
19:11.38 | temujin | really? does rexxar just stand somewhere? |
19:11.40 | Kirkburn | They replaced him someone else, didn't they? |
19:11.48 | Bagginsww | ithat's what it says in rexxar thread |
19:11.51 | Bagginsww | *article |
19:12.00 | Bagginsww | replaced with rokaro |
19:12.06 | Bagginsww | who just stands around in shadowsprey village |
19:12.14 | temujin | man rexxar and misha were really cool... I used to be comforted by their presense |
19:12.22 | Bagginsww | now they just stand around in outland |
19:12.30 | Bagginsww | no more wandering scary giant orc |
19:12.36 | Kirkburn | Oh I see what you mean |
19:12.46 | Kirkburn | Rokaro hasn't taken his place locality-wise |
19:12.53 | temujin | nothing like a large bear with a mouth full of pointy teeth to bring comfort |
19:13.04 | Bagginsww | heh heh |
19:13.23 | Bagginsww | well so Rexxar still wonders both Azeroth and is also in Outland? |
19:13.41 | Bagginsww | *wanders |
19:13.52 | Kirkburn | "a whopping 90% of current WoW players will be buying the expansion, and that 75% said they would pick it up within the first 10 days of release" |
19:14.36 | Kirkburn | If the expansion sells as well as the survery suggests, it will be the biggest selling expansion of a game ... ever. |
19:15.14 | nemppu | PLUS the people who quit but want to see what the xpac brings~ |
19:15.15 | nemppu | like me |
19:15.42 | Bagginsww | heh |
19:16.34 | Adys | http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?p=226335 |
19:16.34 | Adys | oO |
19:16.43 | temujin | even more than starcrack? |
19:17.32 | nemppu | mmmm~ |
19:17.34 | nemppu | very good point |
19:20.07 | Bagginsww | ooh it looks like they gave rexxar a new skin |
19:20.15 | Bagginsww | he's not a recolored orc now |
19:20.22 | temujin | is he bigger and badder lookin? |
19:20.35 | Bagginsww | looks closer to his TFT intro screen look |
19:20.42 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:RexxarMishaTLSH.jpg |
19:21.27 | nemppu | ooh |
19:21.36 | Bagginsww | if only they would repalce sylvannas with something that looks more like a dark ranger :p |
19:21.43 | Bagginsww | and not a night elf |
19:21.58 | temujin | mmm misha looks just as cuddly as ever... but ... rexxar I don't like so much |
19:22.11 | temujin | he lost his demonic look |
19:22.22 | Hobinheim | you mean rexxar looked less than that |
19:22.30 | Hobinheim | he's what, half ogre? |
19:22.35 | Hobinheim | who shagged and made him? |
19:22.41 | temujin | rexxar is less scary lookin now |
19:23.09 | Bagginsww | in the old version he was jsut an orc model |
19:23.09 | Bagginsww | resized |
19:23.09 | Tepetkhet | He's...Batman. |
19:23.10 | Bagginsww | and recolored |
19:23.24 | Tuqui-tuqui | like a cool batman? |
19:23.29 | Tuqui-tuqui | or like batman from the movies |
19:23.31 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/images/thumb/0/09/Rexxar1.jpg/551px-Rexxar1.jpg |
19:23.34 | Tuqui-tuqui | where his nipples show |
19:23.36 | Bagginsww | that's how he looked in TFT |
19:23.41 | Bagginsww | selection screen |
19:23.42 | temujin | ahhh I guess I never saw the old rexxar |
19:23.45 | temujin | only the wow rexxar |
19:23.53 | Bagginsww | I'm surprised they didn't bother to use that model |
19:23.53 | temujin | s/saw/remember/ |
19:24.04 | Bagginsww | cause they used other warcraft 3 models in WoW] |
19:24.17 | Bagginsww | until they had higher poly versions |
19:24.58 | Bagginsww | I wonder if they replaced all the half-ogre models |
19:25.10 | Bagginsww | earlier beta versions they were jsut recolored orcs |
19:25.22 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Mok%27nathal.jpg |
19:28.04 | Bagginsww | No one has bothered to get pictures, but forest trolls have their own new model too |
19:28.17 | Bagginsww | closer to Forest Troll Berserker look from war II |
19:29.12 | temujin | oh my God... he IS batman |
19:29.19 | temujin | he can not be killed |
19:29.21 | temujin | wow |
19:29.26 | Bagginsww | LOL |
19:29.33 | temujin | rexxar is bad ass man |
19:30.07 | Bagginsww | be nice if thrall had his own model too |
19:30.11 | Bagginsww | that appeared more like his artwork, warcraft III look |
19:30.17 | temujin | bleh... he is a shaman... he should wear a dress |
19:30.26 | Bagginsww | far seer |
19:30.29 | Bagginsww | :p |
19:30.36 | temujin | bah |
19:30.40 | Bagginsww | greater than a mere shaman |
19:30.48 | temujin | an elemental shaman on stereoids |
19:32.37 | Bagginsww | if they ever make hero classes, it will probably be one of them |
19:32.47 | temujin | mmm |
19:32.59 | temujin | wonder what other hero classes would be possible |
19:33.18 | Bagginsww | archmage maybe |
19:33.39 | temujin | mmm |
19:33.39 | Bagginsww | blademaster? |
19:33.47 | temujin | yeah... true true |
19:33.48 | Bagginsww | most of the warcraft III heroes probably |
19:33.52 | temujin | mmm |
19:33.56 | Bagginsww | paladins were both heroes and non-heroes |
19:33.58 | temujin | so nothing for a warlock :( |
19:34.06 | Bagginsww | well warlocks can turn to necromancy |
19:34.13 | Bagginsww | at least in the rpg |
19:34.23 | temujin | the wow rpg? table top? |
19:34.25 | Bagginsww | So Necromancer would be a good hero choice |
19:34.28 | Bagginsww | yes the books |
19:34.43 | Tepetkhet | Death Knight. |
19:34.50 | Bagginsww | necromancers can both be seperate classes or warlock an evolves into one. |
19:35.07 | Bagginsww | being able to summon undead might be cool LOL |
19:35.08 | temujin | mmmm |
19:35.11 | temujin | hehe |
19:35.24 | Bagginsww | and have you seen the new warlock tier 4 or 5 |
19:35.25 | temujin | your friend dies... don't rez him... bring him back as a minion to fight for you |
19:35.27 | Bagginsww | its very necromancy |
19:35.32 | Bagginsww | *necromancer like |
19:35.33 | temujin | Bagginsww pics? |
19:35.35 | Bagginsww | skulls and stuff |
19:35.42 | Bagginsww | LOL |
19:35.45 | Bagginsww | let me see if I can find it |
19:35.49 | temujin | I think I have seen the videos of that... |
19:36.26 | temujin | on video.google.com ... mostly a black dress with spikes coming out and black auras. also the spikes have skulls hanging off of them |
19:36.31 | Bagginsww | ya |
19:36.37 | Bagginsww | its more necromancer like than warlock like |
19:36.40 | temujin | hehe |
19:36.58 | temujin | seen the trailer for BC? the warlock killing the murlocs? |
19:37.07 | Bagginsww | there are other possiblities created by the RPG that might make good hero classes |
19:37.12 | Bagginsww | warmage |
19:37.13 | temujin | rune master? |
19:37.20 | Bagginsww | of course |
19:37.35 | Bagginsww | those might evolve from shamans or druids |
19:37.40 | temujin | mmm |
19:37.57 | Bagginsww | plagueshifter druid for the horde |
19:38.01 | temujin | its sick that there are a few classes in the game that doesn't need any other classes... |
19:38.03 | Bagginsww | savagekin druids for the alliance |
19:38.21 | temujin | druids, pallies and shaman to a lesser degree |
19:38.21 | Bagginsww | we see some classes as NPC classes |
19:38.25 | Bagginsww | but not player classes |
19:38.50 | Bagginsww | Argent Dawn Templar could be cut down to just "Templar" |
19:38.57 | Bagginsww | and could be a good upgrade for paladins |
19:39.38 | Bagginsww | witch doctors for troll shamans? |
19:40.12 | Bagginsww | be interesting if your profession could also influence what hero class you go into |
19:41.24 | Bagginsww | a forsaken mage that takes up alchemy perhaps could become a "apothecary" |
19:42.10 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Adys/Qotd |
19:42.12 | Adys | =) |
19:42.13 | temujin | yeah |
19:42.14 | temujin | hehe |
19:42.57 | temujin | that would be kinda cool... what would a leatherworker alliance female mage be? s&m with ice and fire? |
19:43.28 | Bagginsww | kind think of anything specific |
19:43.31 | Hobinheim | i still want metamorphosis for my warlock |
19:43.38 | temujin | metamorphosis? |
19:43.40 | Bagginsww | only for demon hunters ;) |
19:44.02 | Bagginsww | not sure demon hunters would evolve from warlocks |
19:44.06 | Bagginsww | they are often at odds |
19:44.12 | nemppu | some time ago when i was playing around with these things in my mind i thought of a cool system where every class has two paths to go, and every path leads to a class which two classes can come from |
19:44.32 | Bagginsww | I think some kind of choice would be a good thing |
19:44.45 | Bagginsww | we need more variety |
19:44.53 | Tepetkhet | I think the Spirit of Redemption should look different. |
19:45.02 | Bagginsww | I think the only reason we don't have hero classes though is it would be a pain to balance |
19:45.18 | Bagginsww | I would like lore for the 'angels" |
19:45.20 | Tepetkhet | And I think female Horde druids should not look like ass. |
19:45.24 | Hobinheim | demon hunter... now that you mention it... =( |
19:45.28 | nemppu | so like.. a warrior can go for advanced class 1 or 2, but f.ex warrior advanced class 2 would also be advanced class choice for rogue |
19:45.28 | Hobinheim | :shakefist: |
19:45.29 | nemppu | ^^ |
19:45.35 | equiraptor | Tauren cat form needs a rework. |
19:45.43 | Hobinheim | demon form would still be hot tho |
19:45.44 | Tepetkhet | Bigtime. |
19:45.48 | Tuqui-tuqui | It needs flowers >:{ |
19:45.49 | Tepetkhet | Tauren catform is stupid. |
19:45.55 | Tepetkhet | Male and female look alike. |
19:45.55 | Tuqui-tuqui | and rainblows! |
19:45.57 | Hobinheim | you mean the model? |
19:45.57 | Tepetkhet | Like a MALE cat. |
19:46.07 | Tepetkhet | Like a MALE lion. With horns. |
19:46.08 | Tepetkhet | lame. |
19:46.23 | Bagginsww | LOL |
19:46.29 | Bagginsww | be funny if it was the size of a cat |
19:46.32 | Tepetkhet | Their emotes used to be male, too. |
19:46.34 | Bagginsww | with large horns |
19:46.42 | Tepetkhet | *clunk* |
19:46.43 | Tepetkhet | hah |
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20:10.45 | Tuqui-tuqui | I wish there was a way to check how my auctions where doing? :< |
20:10.47 | Tuqui-tuqui | is there? |
20:11.25 | mgg4_ | Buying or selling. You should be able to visit the AH and see your bids and auctions. |
20:11.41 | Tuqui-tuqui | as in outside the game -.- |
20:11.44 | Tuqui-tuqui | :) |
20:12.11 | mgg4_ | I doubt you'll see that. Blizz probably won't allow that type of external access. |
20:12.23 | Tuqui-tuqui | d'oh! XD |
20:12.39 | Kirkburn | Ooh, I think this page is useful :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:No_angry_mastodons |
20:14.10 | mgg4_ | Interesting. A whimsical way of presenting the topic. |
20:16.04 | Kirkburn | Remember: "Mastodons are very rare in modern cities." |
20:16.26 | mgg4_ | hehe. |
20:18.05 | Kirkburn | Lol: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipe-tan |
20:19.21 | Kirkburn | Ah, I am humoured |
20:19.28 | Kirkburn | Yet more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:No_climbing_the_Reichstag_dressed_as_Spider-Man |
20:32.16 | Bagginsww | woohoo I got my acceptance letters to two of the 3 universities I applied to |
20:32.28 | mgg4_ | gratz. |
20:32.30 | Tuqui-tuqui | yay! |
20:32.36 | Tuqui-tuqui | which ones :D |
20:32.44 | mgg4_ | Now you just need to figure out how to pay for it!! |
20:32.57 | Bagginsww | LOL |
20:33.30 | Bagginsww | University of Montana in Misoulla |
20:33.40 | Bagginsww | and University of Hawaii, Hilo |
20:33.47 | Tepetkhet | heh |
20:33.54 | Tuqui-tuqui | -.- |
20:34.00 | Tuqui-tuqui | what are you studying? |
20:34.02 | Bagginsww | still need to see what kind of scholarship I can get out of hilo :p |
20:34.07 | Bagginsww | Anthropology/Geology |
20:34.38 | Bagginsww | Looking into fieldwork in Geological Anthropology, or forensics |
20:34.46 | Tepetkhet | Wow |
20:35.07 | Tepetkhet | I seem to recall Hawaii had pretty good forensics programs. |
20:35.18 | Bagginsww | That sounds good |
20:36.00 | Bagginsww | now Montana is offering me 7500 scholarship a year for up to 30,000 |
20:36.21 | Bagginsww | well per semester |
20:36.22 | Bagginsww | I mean |
20:36.32 | Hobinheim | hawaii... |
20:36.35 | Bagginsww | now if I can get hawaii to match that :p |
20:36.37 | Hobinheim | aloha oy |
20:36.42 | Bagginsww | heh heh |
20:37.15 | Kirkburn | Lilo and Stitch ftw |
20:38.02 | mgg4_ | Hawaii is very expensive. High cost of living. Your dollars will go farther in Montana, but it is much, MUCH colder. ;-) |
20:38.36 | Bagginsww | well I looked into cost of living isn't much higher than it is in california on Hilo :p |
20:38.40 | Bagginsww | that is both have nasty taxes |
20:38.56 | Bagginsww | on the other hand location location location LOL |
20:39.07 | Bagginsww | I want to learn how to scuba dive too |
20:39.12 | Tepetkhet | Well, with the great forensics program in Hawaii and plenty of nice geological samples to study in the wild as it were... |
20:39.19 | Bagginsww | ya |
20:39.23 | Bagginsww | active geology |
20:39.27 | mgg4_ | That would be hard to do in Montana (SCUBA, that is). |
20:39.31 | Tepetkhet | Even though I hate the sun, I'd go with Hawaii. |
20:39.32 | Bagginsww | LOL |
20:39.57 | Bagginsww | I mostly applied to montana because they sent me a letter requesting me first LOL |
20:40.18 | Bagginsww | so I knew if hawaii doesn't pan out I have other alternatives |
20:41.02 | Kirkburn | In Hawaii you can go and pester the FuBar creator :P |
20:41.19 | Tuqui-tuqui | -.- |
20:43.08 | Bagginsww | lol |
20:44.08 | Bagginsww | ok now Hawaii will fax out their scholarship application to me LOL |
20:44.11 | Bagginsww | just called them |
20:45.10 | Tepetkhet | nice |
20:45.33 | mgg4_ | Good luck with it. |
20:46.16 | jrr | what you wanna study? |
20:46.38 | Tepetkhet | [15:34] Bagginsww: Anthropology/Geology |
20:46.53 | Tepetkhet | [15:34] Bagginsww: Looking into fieldwork in Geological Anthropology, or forensics |
20:46.54 | Tepetkhet | heh |
20:47.33 | jrr | interesting fields |
20:47.38 | Hobinheim | how will either of those help you get epix |
20:47.42 | Bagginsww | LOL |
20:47.51 | Hobinheim | i've done virtually nothing at work today... =( |
20:48.06 | jrr | you'll do virtually less on BC day |
20:48.12 | Bagginsww | LOL |
20:48.16 | Hobinheim | no, i want all my addons to work |
20:48.21 | Hobinheim | i've played so little warcraft these days |
20:48.28 | Tepetkhet | I want my targetting to work. |
20:48.30 | Bagginsww | sadly school comes first on BC day if homework exists. |
20:48.35 | Hobinheim | and i'm still like. anxious. guides to write, classes to play! it's too much! |
20:48.59 | Bagginsww | someone needs to write a guide, "How to be in three places at once" |
20:49.14 | Hobinheim | like i don't know what to do... my guild isn't so fantastic. but i'm not a fantastic guild member either |
20:49.16 | mgg4_ | I'll buy three copies. |
20:49.21 | Bagginsww | LOL |
20:49.35 | Hobinheim | how to be in three places? what do you mean? too many things to do? =P |
20:49.40 | Hobinheim | step one. clone yourself |
20:49.46 | Hobinheim | step two. dispatch clones |
20:50.01 | Tepetkhet | step three: PROFIT! |
20:50.04 | mgg4_ | Equip each clone with a copy of the book. |
20:50.08 | Hobinheim | lol @ Tepetkhet |
20:50.16 | jrr | that'd be pretty sweet, provided there's a way to reacquire what the clones learn while away |
20:50.16 | Bagginsww | ok, step 0, Buy "How to clone one's self" |
20:50.16 | Hobinheim | do you read slashdot? |
20:50.34 | Hobinheim | ok jrr now we're heading into naruto territory |
20:50.54 | Bagginsww | only problem is cloning usually turns out bad, anyone see multiplicity? |
20:51.08 | Bagginsww | one of them tries to take over your life and replace you :p |
20:51.19 | jrr | no but i've seen that schwarzenegger movie |
20:51.41 | jrr | 6th day |
20:51.50 | Bagginsww | not sure I've seen that one |
20:51.58 | jrr | there's clones. |
20:52.13 | Bagginsww | and there is the Clone WArs too :p |
20:52.26 | Bagginsww | and ATtack of the Clones |
20:52.35 | Hobinheim | or the entire story line of multiple man |
20:52.45 | Hobinheim | is life, "death", alter egos, hobbies |
20:52.49 | Bagginsww | lol |
20:52.58 | Hobinheim | all of his clones had different hobbies |
20:53.00 | Hobinheim | and personalities |
20:53.03 | Hobinheim | some committed crimes |
20:53.08 | Bagginsww | wow |
20:53.09 | Hobinheim | and when he merged back together, he was horrified |
20:53.18 | Hobinheim | so then he died or got killed |
20:53.22 | Hobinheim | but not really! dun dun dun |
20:53.31 | Hobinheim | some faught over who was the original |
20:53.35 | Bagginsww | LOL |
20:53.39 | Hobinheim | and then some mental falling out thing happened. i think |
20:53.45 | Hobinheim | i dunno i could very well be making all of this up |
20:53.51 | Bagginsww | LOL |
20:54.02 | Bagginsww | so he had a bad case of MPD |
20:54.15 | Hobinheim | sure why not |
20:54.27 | Bagginsww | LOL |
20:56.39 | Hobinheim | i still think wow needs a melee pet class |
20:56.46 | Hobinheim | it's the only intersection of things that doesn't make any sense |
20:56.55 | Hobinheim | someone who essentially makes a duplicate of himself |
20:57.37 | Bagginsww | brewmaster ftw |
20:58.15 | Bagginsww | storm, earth and fire |
21:05.43 | Hobinheim | heed my call |
21:05.54 | Hobinheim | brewmaster doesn't fit though |
21:06.00 | Hobinheim | a melee evasion class? |
21:06.02 | Hobinheim | with fire? |
21:07.52 | Hobinheim | a new class has to fit an undefined niche |
21:09.25 | equiraptor | Hrm. There are two sort-of-nature casters, but both are hybrids, and neither seems to be the same type of nature caster that a frost mage is frost caster or shadow priest is shadow caster. |
21:09.52 | equiraptor | But, say, a nature/arcane caster probably wouldn't be different enough from a balance druid. |
21:10.44 | Hobinheim | i would argue a warlock is more of a shadow caster than a shadow priest |
21:11.04 | equiraptor | Warlock I'd say is shadow/fire, with the weight of each dependant on the spec. |
21:11.19 | equiraptor | A shadow priest is a shadow (pretty much only) caster. |
21:12.05 | equiraptor | (I'm not saying a warlock is less of a shadow caster than a shadow priest, just that the warlock is dual-type, while a shadow-spec priest isn't, really) |
21:12.09 | Hobinheim | the way i would make an extra class is to write down the features of all the classes and just make one that fills in all the blanks that haven't been done yet. which is why i'm so insistent on a melee pet class. it's so absurd, it both makes sense and doesn't make sense |
21:12.49 | equiraptor | How would the pets work? |
21:13.20 | equiraptor | I think a pet that was a tank for the character would just be a rogue with a pet. |
21:13.35 | Hobinheim | think of someone that exists in two halves |
21:13.38 | equiraptor | So there should be some interesting trickery and specialization, like with the warlock pets. |
21:13.45 | Hobinheim | you have to switch between views |
21:13.54 | Hobinheim | you are the yin self with a yang pet or a yang self with a yin pet |
21:13.58 | Hobinheim | both essentially identical |
21:14.04 | Hobinheim | i should write up a wiki page about this |
21:14.11 | Hobinheim | like i said, it's absurd. but it's the only way! |
21:14.28 | Hobinheim | goons even suggested that the energy bar be different. have a sort of tug and pull with yin and yang abilities |
21:14.30 | equiraptor | Is there a monk-like character in WoW? |
21:14.50 | Hobinheim | besides unarmed melee characters called monks in the scarlet monestary, i don't think so |
21:14.56 | equiraptor | A shared bar between the two? Like the health between the twin emps in AQ40 is shared? |
21:15.04 | Hobinheim | oh i didn't know that |
21:15.09 | Hobinheim | (no end game knowledge) |
21:15.15 | Hobinheim | no like a bar that... you know how bars are usually filled |
21:15.23 | Hobinheim | this bar's neutral point is in the middle |
21:15.27 | equiraptor | Ah. |
21:15.32 | Hobinheim | the more yin you use, the more yang you get |
21:15.39 | Hobinheim | like the abilities throw the other school of abilities off balance |
21:15.43 | Hobinheim | kinda like holy and shadow |
21:15.49 | Hobinheim | as in opposites i mean |
21:16.12 | Hobinheim | he'd specialize in polearms, fist weapons, unarmed, and thrown weapons. you konw, all the good ones =) |
21:16.22 | Hobinheim | seriously, this all makes sense in my head |
21:16.28 | equiraptor | Oh, so you need "thing" to cast some spells, and get "Thing" from other abilities, and you can't go to more than 100% thing or less than 0%? |
21:16.36 | Hobinheim | yeah |
21:16.44 | Hobinheim | like you'll eventually run out of yin, but now you're at max yang |
21:16.46 | Hobinheim | so you have to switch |
21:16.49 | Hobinheim | or something stupid like that |
21:16.55 | equiraptor | Heh.. "Too much yin!" |
21:17.04 | Hobinheim | and then at rest, out of combat, your bar with neutralize to 50 50 |
21:17.20 | Hobinheim | see, if we didn't do this, we'd be relegated to another rage/energy/mana class. BORING |
21:17.22 | equiraptor | Interesting. |
21:17.28 | equiraptor | heh. |
21:17.28 | equiraptor | :) |
21:17.37 | equiraptor | I think I'm anti-pet, though. |
21:17.41 | equiraptor | You could do that without the pet. |
21:18.04 | equiraptor | And I don't know that there's a good way to handle the pet that wouldn't just be copying the hunter or a warlock pet. |
21:18.16 | Hobinheim | zomg i love pets |
21:18.30 | equiraptor | I love pets, too. |
21:18.32 | Hobinheim | think of this... we'll call him a monk. think of the monk's pet as an identical version of you |
21:18.37 | Hobinheim | not like the way pets are now |
21:18.41 | Hobinheim | like a mirror image |
21:18.47 | Hobinheim | like you're mind controling a humanoid |
21:18.52 | Hobinheim | but you're only limited to four abilities |
21:19.09 | Hobinheim | and then you have to switch into the two bodies |
21:19.11 | Hobinheim | like stance dancing |
21:19.15 | Hobinheim | Yin self and Yang self |
21:19.39 | Hobinheim | then there would be all these provisions for merging or sacrificing one of your bodies |
21:21.11 | Tuqui-tuqui | ... |
21:21.26 | Tuqui-tuqui | Id like to walk around nekkie |
21:21.29 | Hobinheim | it's like being a blade master with a real clone of yourself |
21:21.52 | Hobinheim | and to enemy targets it looks like oh shit two blademasters are coming |
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22:08.43 | Hobinheim | i'm really pining for some mind control right now ... =( |
22:08.48 | Tepetkhet | home |
22:08.49 | Tepetkhet | Later. |
22:14.18 | Kirkburn | Notice the second lead story: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/default.stm |
22:23.34 | Apollozeus | what a weird title o.O |
22:23.41 | Apollozeus | 'Date given for Warcraft expansion' |
22:23.50 | Adys | lol |
22:23.51 | Apollozeus | they gave january 16 as a date weeks and weeks ago |
22:25.44 | Apollozeus | lry jnkns |
22:26.05 | Apollozeus | k that sucked |
22:26.10 | Apollozeus | i'm outta here, later |
22:26.21 | temujin | high lord kruul <-- wtf is he and where does he come from |
22:26.34 | Apollozeus | dark portal |
22:26.47 | temujin | any more information about him? |
22:26.51 | Apollozeus | he's a leuitenant of kazzak |
22:28.43 | Hobinheim | lol bbc |
22:29.02 | Hobinheim | lol he's kazzaki like borat |
22:32.05 | temujin | ? |
22:32.08 | temujin | why fin why |
22:32.39 | Fin | to equip an item, there's a /equip slash command, EquipItemByName and another function by id and stuff |
22:32.45 | Fin | so three alternatives which are nice and neat |
22:34.52 | Fin | to dequip an item... you have to use PickupContainerItem, check for CursorHasItem, then check if there's space in your backpack and PutItemInBackpack or PutItemInBag otherwise |
22:35.33 | Fin | we installed a TWiki at work today! |
22:35.34 | Fin | hooray! |
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22:40.23 | temujin | Fin ... the equip fine... |
22:40.32 | temujin | unqeuip... yeah... you need to do those checks... |
22:40.38 | temujin | can't unequip when in combat some things |
22:40.52 | temujin | can't put stuff into bag where thereis no space |
22:41.20 | temujin | can do something like a switch equipment.... but that would go into equip I guess and bag item swap happen automatically |
22:49.24 | Fin | the reason I cried inside was because the number of steps involved in unequipping an item is disproportionately more than for equipping an item |
22:50.03 | temujin | hehe |
22:50.41 | temujin | GrabItemFromBag() or GrabItemFromBackPack(), CursorHasItem(), EquipItemInSlot(), AutoEquipItemInSlot() |
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22:50.44 | temujin | there you go :) |
22:50.55 | Fin | talk about prompt service! |
22:53.14 | Fin | searched google for site:www.curse-gaming.com upload; tried uploading a project with the same name as the existing project (fails due to existing project); can't find any link from the addon page itself for me |
22:53.31 | Fin | I'm obviously missing something (probably obvious) |
22:53.43 | Fin | I mean... it's not like addons aren't being updated |
22:56.23 | temujin | ... |
22:56.26 | temujin | dunno mang |
22:56.29 | temujin | I just troll here |
22:59.08 | Fin | just, uh, expressing my anguish, it's OK. troll on, dude. |
23:00.21 | Tuqui-tuqui | yay for trolling! |
23:00.28 | Tuqui-tuqui | ¡oooW |
23:30.41 | Fin | huh |
23:30.54 | Fin | odd |
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