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| 00:14.09 | Zeal | Kirkburn, http://www.wcradio.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2931 |
| 00:14.50 | Kirkburn | haha |
| 00:15.59 | Kirkburn | isn't it "Middlesex" not Middelsex :P |
| 00:17.58 | Zeal | indeedy |
| 00:17.59 | Zeal | lol |
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| 00:20.59 | Patrigan-Syldra | Not that long ago I had to fight someone with the antiwowwiki ideas |
| 00:21.05 | Patrigan-Syldra | I still beat him to pulp! |
| 00:22.21 | Castdead | hey padrigan, my first addon (raid scale debuff prio lists) is working, now making the custom unit frames for it :) |
| 00:35.29 | Patrigan-Syldra | what addon? >< |
| 00:35.41 | Patrigan-Syldra | bleh offline XD |
| 00:39.33 | Kirkburn | oooh, major Steam upgrade today :D |
| 00:41.55 | Zeal | oh what a show to listen live to.. Lorekeepers are covering "how to learn lore" again, currently going through sources.. let's hear what gets said about WoWWiki ;) |
| 00:50.29 | Adys | lol |
| 00:50.36 | Adys | at what they just said =P |
| 00:50.53 | Zeal | indeed |
| 00:53.49 | Adys | bah they are all up on wowwiki |
| 00:54.41 | Adys | aha |
| 00:55.29 | Zeal | indeed |
| 00:55.33 | Zeal | it's always like that |
| 01:01.58 | Zeal | i did, but it was ignore, pfft. |
| 01:02.02 | Zeal | *ignored |
| 01:03.52 | Adys | thats actually interesting |
| 01:04.00 | Adys | mm I wanna write an article about them now =P |
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| 01:04.08 | Adys | but i dont know enough about lore |
| 01:04.29 | Zeal | lol |
| 01:04.44 | Zeal | about the lorekeepers or about the books? :s |
| 01:05.41 | Adys | no |
| 01:05.43 | Adys | about the Kor'kron |
| 01:05.53 | Adys | btw, LOL |
| 01:05.54 | Adys | http://www.thottbot.com/?i=37241 |
| 01:07.38 | Zeal | oh, lol. and yeah, Kor'kron, i've wondered that alot before. |
| 01:09.30 | Kirkburn | What did they say? |
| 01:09.45 | Adys | they said they think its an orcish word |
| 01:10.30 | Kirkburn | No, the earlier thing :) |
| 01:10.38 | Kirkburn | Did they mention wowwiki then? |
| 01:10.48 | Adys | yeah |
| 01:11.08 | Zeal | they hate it, it's unreliable, they don't recommend it. the usual. |
| 01:11.24 | Zeal | they praised it has the book list though |
| 01:11.29 | Adys | lore whining ftw :p |
| 01:11.32 | Zeal | which to me isn't a big deal :p |
| 01:11.36 | Kirkburn | *sigh* |
| 01:11.40 | Kirkburn | Correct them! |
| 01:12.15 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/Kor%27kron |
| 01:12.20 | Adys | I know it sucks |
| 01:12.23 | Kirkburn | As much as I may be biased, there is no better place to learn WoW lore these days |
| 01:12.36 | Adys | and yup, /agree |
| 01:12.48 | Kirkburn | I've not seen many articles called into question recently, tis great :) |
| 01:12.51 | Zeal | lol, well i agree with them to extent, but not enough to not recommend it |
| 01:13.08 | Kirkburn | What I would suggest is that they point to 5 mistakes |
| 01:13.12 | Zeal | i've said that on their forums plenty before :P |
| 01:13.33 | Kirkburn | If they can produce a list of 5 (reasonable) things I will be impressed |
| 01:14.39 | Zeal | well because it's live, i'll ask for 3 |
| 01:14.45 | Zeal | see what happens.. heh |
| 01:14.50 | Zeal | Kirkburn, tune in ;) |
| 01:14.57 | Kirkburn | link |
| 01:14.59 | Adys | what irc server is it ? |
| 01:15.08 | Adys | http://www.wcradio.com/ |
| 01:15.14 | Kirkburn | I'm liking my Basement Jaxx atm =) |
| 01:16.30 | Zeal | er.. it's on theri site. don't recall the network :s |
| 01:16.37 | Zeal | i've got it as MMOIRC :s |
| 01:17.03 | Adys | http://www.wcradio.com/chat.php |
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| 01:17.19 | Adys | irc.wowirc.com |
| 01:17.34 | Zeal | there ya go, heh. |
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| 01:17.40 | Kirkburn | HAHA |
| 01:17.42 | Kirkburn | I just kicked myself |
| 01:17.56 | Kirkburn | This is what happens when you run two X-Chats :P |
| 01:18.01 | Zeal | rofl |
| 01:18.17 | Zeal | i've asked btw, see what happens. |
| 01:18.19 | Adys | bah |
| 01:18.48 | Kirkburn | Zeal, on the forum? |
| 01:19.05 | Zeal | nah, to the co-host. |
| 01:19.12 | Zeal | see if they answer it on air. |
| 01:19.29 | Kirkburn | ooh |
| 01:19.51 | Kirkburn | I got one of my bit of info read out recently about the upcoming guild banks :) |
| 01:20.04 | Zeal | <Zeal> Quick question, more a challange though, can you point out 3 or more lore mistakes on wow wiki to justify the criticism of it? ;p |
| 01:20.13 | Zeal | huh? |
| 01:21.53 | Patrigan-Syldra | Hey, I just realised something oO |
| 01:21.58 | Patrigan-Syldra | I'm bugged oO |
| 01:22.03 | Patrigan-Syldra | but crazy cool good buggef |
| 01:22.05 | Kirkburn | I feel like I'm listening to a couple talking over dinner |
| 01:22.13 | Kirkburn | "So how was you day, dear?" |
| 01:22.35 | Zeal | rofl Kirkburn |
| 01:22.52 | Patrigan-Syldra | well, I'm off, gn! |
| 01:22.56 | Kirkburn | I half expect some friends to come around, and they'll chat about the weather |
| 01:22.59 | Kirkburn | nite! |
| 01:23.02 | Zeal | nobunaga isn't the usual co-host. usually a shy canadian ;) |
| 01:23.18 | Kirkburn | Not a bad thing, it's very soothing =) |
| 01:23.41 | Zeal | lol |
| 01:29.05 | Zeal | i need to figure out when war of the shifting sands take place. |
| 01:29.14 | Zeal | i thought it had a date, but i can't find one : / |
| 01:29.53 | Kirkburn | Hmm, I'm sure it has one |
| 01:34.24 | Zeal | i thought so too |
| 01:34.29 | Zeal | thought it was around -1,000 |
| 01:35.09 | Kirkburn | Something around that-ish |
| 01:35.35 | Kirkburn | See how I slipped a reference in there, eh? eh?! |
| 01:35.41 | Kirkburn | :P |
| 01:35.56 | Zeal | lol |
| 01:40.40 | Zeal | rofl @ strixus |
| 01:41.53 | Zeal | semantics ftw, you've so thrown her off Kirkburn, lol. |
| 01:42.08 | Kirkburn | I know, I feel so guilty :/ |
| 01:42.20 | Zeal | lol |
| 01:46.18 | Kirkburn | What was the bit about Aegwynn? |
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| 01:48.17 | Zeal | Tabetha is possibly Aegwynn in disguise |
| 01:48.45 | Adys | oO |
| 01:48.49 | Adys | why? |
| 01:49.08 | Zeal | well that's strixu's theory |
| 01:49.13 | Zeal | i don't follow it |
| 01:49.23 | Zeal | "Against all concieveable odds, Aegwynn survived yet again. Declared by Theramore's surgeons to "have the constitution of an elf", she now serves as Lady Jaina's chamberlain and advisor, under an assumed name, to avoid any unwanted guests. " |
| 01:49.49 | Zeal | Tabetha is not with Jaina, and does not look like an elf |
| 01:49.50 | Kirkburn | Remind me where Tabetha is |
| 01:49.59 | Zeal | Dustwallow |
| 01:50.06 | Kirkburn | elf? |
| 01:50.24 | Kirkburn | Oh, I see what you're saying |
| 01:50.26 | Zeal | in a shack, in the middle of it, on her own, human model, but she has no bg and alot of magic. |
| 01:50.28 | Kirkburn | It's not literal! |
| 01:50.36 | Zeal | i know |
| 01:50.43 | Kirkburn | Well then ... :) |
| 01:50.53 | Zeal | but she's always said to have the look of an elf, lithe and pale. |
| 01:51.00 | Kirkburn | Ah, *that* Tabetha |
| 01:51.12 | Kirkburn | Hrm, that's an interesting idea |
| 01:51.15 | Zeal | indeed |
| 01:51.23 | Kirkburn | A very very interesting idea |
| 01:51.27 | Kirkburn | She's quite the loner |
| 01:51.39 | Zeal | if it is Tabetha, she looks far too long and shes broken off from Jaina. |
| 01:51.46 | Zeal | *too young |
| 01:52.04 | Zeal | still a possibility though. |
| 01:52.14 | Kirkburn | Yeah, she should be around 60 now |
| 01:52.30 | Kirkburn | Unless she's managed to regain a little magic power, somehow |
| 01:52.50 | Zeal | oh, older than that iirc |
| 01:52.56 | Kirkburn | (60 in image, not in actual age) |
| 01:53.10 | Adys | aha |
| 01:53.13 | Adys | nice one zeal :D |
| 01:53.17 | Zeal | lol |
| 01:53.20 | Kirkburn | oooh |
| 01:53.47 | Zeal | haha |
| 01:54.23 | Kirkburn | err |
| 01:54.52 | Zeal | i miss that second one |
| 01:54.55 | Zeal | *missed |
| 01:55.57 | Kirkburn | WTF |
| 01:56.52 | Adys | dont bother ^^ |
| 01:58.50 | Kirkburn | So much for that |
| 01:59.26 | Kirkburn | I've stopped listening now, bit pissed off |
| 02:00.16 | Zeal | indeed |
| 02:00.32 | Zeal | < 01:58:21 am > <Zeal> yes, where as wcradio is all about strixus' view on the lore, and on the rare times that is questioned.. oh noes. heh. |
| 02:00.40 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 02:01.24 | Kirkburn | I dont understand why she was listing speculation sections as "wrong" :( |
| 02:01.42 | Adys | wanna make the speculation tag more obvious? |
| 02:01.48 | Adys | dont see anything more to do :P |
| 02:02.21 | Zeal | but yes.. this is the sorta thing i see whenever wow wiki gets talked about, and it pisses me off a great deal. reason it turns into a "starwars geeks aruing" is because the wiki needs to remain accurate and unbiased, so all interpretation of the lroe must be talked about. |
| 02:04.11 | Kirkburn | Added it to the Origin of the Races page |
| 02:04.55 | Kirkburn | Anyway, I was "vehement"? :P Perhaps, I was vehement it said speculation! |
| 02:05.53 | Kirkburn | Adys, needs adding to more places |
| 02:07.48 | Zeal | shes giving me a better example now. |
| 02:07.59 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Speculation |
| 02:08.59 | Kirkburn | Cool Adys |
| 02:09.13 | Adys | Make it a red band or something |
| 02:09.20 | Adys | but I dont have the time atm :P stratholme ftw |
| 02:09.56 | Kirkburn | Nah, it's enough |
| 02:10.02 | Kirkburn | Zeal, yes? |
| 02:14.25 | Kirkburn | I found the whole denying the Emerald Dream - Old God link odd |
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| 02:19.01 | Kirkburn | Argh, she had a valid point about: http://www.wowwiki.com/Nightmare |
| 02:19.10 | Kirkburn | Darn contributers! :P |
| 02:19.16 | Zeal | indeed |
| 02:19.17 | Adys | what was said? |
| 02:19.45 | Zeal | basically, it would see her opinion has become tainted because of a bad experience with the wiki |
| 02:20.21 | Zeal | she made soem changes, but they goet reverted, and when she tried to discuss them, she felt ignored liek you need to be in an elite group to be able to contribute. |
| 02:20.47 | Kirkburn | What was her name? |
| 02:20.55 | Kirkburn | I will take a look |
| 02:21.14 | Kirkburn | (inquiry like!) |
| 02:22.05 | Zeal | thought i was getting somewhere, but she just quit on me.. sigh. |
| 02:22.06 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Contributions/Strixus |
| 02:22.48 | Kirkburn | Erk, it was Kirochi |
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| 02:23.18 | Zeal | yeah, i see : / |
| 02:23.46 | Adys | Lore drama on the wiki ftw tbh |
| 02:23.53 | Adys | reminds me of theron.. |
| 02:24.18 | Adys | ppl just like fighting over things |
| 02:24.22 | Zeal | basically, she suggested soemthing, someone made a stupid comment, so she got upset and left : / |
| 02:24.22 | Adys | yawn |
| 02:24.41 | Zeal | and the annoying thing is, she was right. |
| 02:25.49 | Kirkburn | For strixus: http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Rexxar |
| 02:25.58 | Zeal | well, should would turn out to be right |
| 02:26.10 | Zeal | but i dunno what wc3 events shes refering to to refute the speculation |
| 02:26.17 | Kirkburn | Zeal, if you have any way of getting through to her, can you give her that link? |
| 02:26.29 | Zeal | it's onyl since BC that it's been made impossible afaik. |
| 02:26.53 | Zeal | i won't risk it on the forums, i'd expect too much of a backlash, but i'll try and talk to her when shes next online. |
| 02:27.06 | Kirkburn | Ta |
| 02:27.35 | Kirkburn | If that was the only thing though, far too sensitive :P |
| 02:27.50 | Kirkburn | All of us get ignored all the time =) |
| 02:28.05 | Zeal | indeed |
| 02:28.10 | Zeal | that's why the policy is to be bold |
| 02:28.17 | Kirkburn | yarr |
| 02:28.23 | Kirkburn | So anyway |
| 02:28.24 | Zeal | do it, say why you did it, see what happens |
| 02:28.25 | Zeal | lol |
| 02:29.08 | Zeal | she said "It is also possible that the "slain" Old God in The Master's Glaive may be the cause of the nightmare, being that instead" that's not clearly marked as speculation for noobs |
| 02:29.51 | Zeal | fact that it says possible is enough for anyone with an understand of english to figure out, i don't see the point :S |
| 02:29.57 | Zeal | *"possible" |
| 02:30.36 | Adys | just try and talk to her when you can |
| 02:30.45 | Adys | it just sucks people consider bad something they can help |
| 02:31.22 | Zeal | i wanted to point out how unreliable, and certainly biased, her show is. That if she has issues with the wiki, she shoudl resolve them rather than slander it and pass on that to her listeners |
| 02:31.32 | Zeal | but she quite before i got a chance :/ |
| 02:32.04 | Zeal | yeah, i said how much she could clearly contribute to the wiki. |
| 02:34.54 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#Speculation |
| 02:36.19 | Zeal | shehe |
| 02:36.21 | Zeal | *hehe |
| 02:37.01 | Kirkburn | If we can discuss stuff with her, I hope it will help mellow her view |
| 02:37.28 | Zeal | indeed |
| 02:37.39 | Zeal | what bothers me, is her show is worse than the wiki : / |
| 02:38.48 | Kirkburn | I can give them the fact it's on air and therefore very stressful, but yes, can be kinda hypocritical |
| 02:39.27 | Zeal | she doesn't mark speculation, and when she does speculate, she either doesn't go into it, or doesn't realize shes speculating so gives people false information. when you challange her speculation, she gets bitchy or doesn't dignify you with a proper response. Then she also makes alot of mistake. For example, todays show. Dragon kin being used to describe Dragonspawn, it's not the first time shes done that. |
| 02:40.36 | Zeal | yeah, it' certainly understandable to mess up live, but when you see their consistant, you realize it's a mistake in her beleif, an assumption, or her own bias. |
| 02:40.45 | Zeal | *they're |
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| 02:42.03 | Kirkburn | yeah |
| 02:44.03 | Zeal | but yeah, i don't get why she brought up the Aqir stuff, which i wrote. |
| 02:44.09 | Zeal | i do find it amusing thought. |
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| 02:44.23 | Zeal | she never did refute it when i corrected her on the forums. |
| 02:45.42 | Zeal | "One theory is that the avatars C'Thun created from the Silithid were the Aqir, with the Qiraji and Nerubians later splitting off and evolving differently. Another is that the Silithid and Aqir are infact one in the same, but its often dismissed due to the an argument of intelligence, despite evidence to support it. Neither have yet to be confirmed by Blizzard and are both merely speculative history for the races." |
| 02:46.41 | Zeal | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Zeal/Lore_Theories#The_Silithid.2C_Aqir_and_Qiraji_Origins ;) |
| 02:48.56 | Zeal | one fo the first things i did when i started on the wiki, heh. |
| 02:50.06 | Kirkburn | :) |
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| 03:00.44 | Zeal | wb Hobinheim |
| 03:00.48 | Zeal | you missed drama, lol |
| 03:01.18 | Adys | haha |
| 03:03.20 | Zeal | anyways.. that side tracked me from answering kirk.. aegwynn is at least 1,080 years old. but we know she used magic to defy aging. |
| 03:03.59 | Hobinheim | what was the dramma |
| 03:04.14 | Adys | wowradio stuff |
| 03:04.19 | Adys | get the archive when its up ^^ |
| 03:04.42 | Zeal | the host of wcradio: the lorekeepers. basically the criticisms of wowwiki. |
| 03:05.37 | Zeal | shes apparently a philosophy major btw. |
| 03:07.03 | Hobinheim | she can apparently go suck it |
| 03:07.07 | Hobinheim | have you heard of work in progress... |
| 03:07.13 | Zeal | rofl |
| 03:07.15 | Hobinheim | she's ungrateful |
| 03:07.23 | Hobinheim | she didn't even give thanks to elune that she had something to bash |
| 03:07.31 | Hobinheim | ungrateful whore |
| 03:08.03 | Zeal | O_o |
| 03:08.07 | Zeal | now now |
| 03:08.44 | Zeal | basically, the whole reason i brought this up in the first place, is i wanted you to see the views of wowwiki within many lore communities |
| 03:09.01 | Hobinheim | i dunno i try to stay out of lore |
| 03:09.08 | Hobinheim | cuz you get all technical with the different types |
| 03:09.11 | Hobinheim | *sources i mean |
| 03:09.18 | Zeal | indeed |
| 03:09.25 | Hobinheim | the most lorish i'd ever get is quest text |
| 03:09.34 | Hobinheim | i'm more curious what the non-famous members of azeroth are up to |
| 03:09.47 | Hobinheim | like the meat vendor in xroads has a thing for the innkeeper at orgrimmar |
| 03:09.53 | Hobinheim | and you're invited to his wedding =P |
| 03:10.20 | Zeal | well if blizzard was cosistant and not vague, there wouldn't be nearly as many issues. but what can ya do but discuss and make sure you get it accurate and unbiased. |
| 03:10.37 | Zeal | rofl Hobinheim |
| 03:10.45 | Hobinheim | i wonder how good blizzard's... what do you call it... |
| 03:10.49 | Hobinheim | their consistency expert is |
| 03:10.53 | Hobinheim | not the guy who makes it |
| 03:11.05 | Hobinheim | the intern who's hired to make sure they have all their shit straight |
| 03:11.08 | Zeal | oh, he is the guy that does it all |
| 03:11.10 | Hobinheim | they featured this girl one time for the simpsons |
| 03:11.11 | Zeal | which is the problem |
| 03:11.26 | Hobinheim | her entire job was to read through scripts |
| 03:11.30 | Zeal | he's doing all the lore himself.. but warcraft is too big for him to do alone anymore. : / |
| 03:11.34 | Hobinheim | and make sure new material didn't violate old material |
| 03:12.03 | Zeal | hence the big retcon of BC. |
| 03:12.19 | Zeal | "woops, i forgot i wrote that 10 years ago.." |
| 03:13.05 | Hobinheim | what did he retcon |
| 03:13.09 | Hobinheim | it wasn't that big of a change was it? |
| 03:13.25 | Hobinheim | the only thing i've briefly heard of is the factioning off of draenei |
| 03:13.33 | Hobinheim | wait why is the alliance draenei fighting the horde? |
| 03:13.40 | Hobinheim | orcs and draenei used to be tight! |
| 03:13.48 | Hobinheim | and wtf happened to their cloaking! |
| 03:13.51 | Zeal | basically Sargeras's past, which eventually brings into question the entire reason why the Burning Legion exists. |
| 03:14.19 | Hobinheim | oh well. warcraft is a living, breathing entity... |
| 03:14.28 | Hobinheim | smells like poo |
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| 03:14.45 | Zeal | atm, we assume the old events, merely had the Eredar removed, leaving it to be the Natherzim only. |
| 03:15.13 | Hobinheim | you're losing me with the big words |
| 03:15.19 | Zeal | but he implied he will not go back and rewrite it : / |
| 03:15.33 | Zeal | er.. Natherzim = Dread Lords. |
| 03:15.45 | Hobinheim | i just want to know what happened to cloaking. i distinctly remember draenei units being like dark templars |
| 03:15.52 | Zeal | rofl |
| 03:15.54 | Hobinheim | it's NOT A DRESS! |
| 03:16.06 | Zeal | those draenei units are now "The Broken" |
| 03:16.11 | Hobinheim | you had to use them in ninja missions |
| 03:16.20 | Zeal | i'm not sure, but i don't beleive they can stealth anymore. |
| 03:16.22 | Hobinheim | dude those broken in swamp of sorrows are sorry examples of cloakers |
| 03:16.49 | Zeal | nah, Lost Ones are what we saw in WC3, but they wre supposed to be Broken. |
| 03:16.50 | Hobinheim | there should be an intergalatic battle between the draenei, ravenholdt manor, and the syndicate |
| 03:17.00 | Hobinheim | in a one on one on one ninja battle |
| 03:17.46 | Zeal | basically Draenei in WC3 have ended up as this.. Their ancestors = Draenei, Their appearance = Lost Ones, Who they are= The Broken. |
| 03:18.16 | Zeal | *Their apperance then = Lost Ones, Their appearance now = Broken. |
| 03:18.46 | Zeal | oddly hard to describe, meh. |
| 03:18.53 | Hobinheim | i need to do something about my alt itis... |
| 03:19.00 | Zeal | lol |
| 03:19.03 | Hobinheim | i find myself actively avoiding my main to romp around in the 1-10 areas... |
| 03:19.10 | Hobinheim | reserving the bc will not help at all |
| 03:20.30 | Zeal | well, apparently the BC is sold out everywhere :s |
| 03:20.54 | Zeal | all stock, both CE and normal have been bought up, lol. |
| 03:21.03 | Hobinheim | dude i thought i was going to get the collector's edition online |
| 03:21.06 | Hobinheim | WTF WAS I SMOKING |
| 03:21.09 | Hobinheim | WHO AM I KIDDING |
| 03:21.19 | Zeal | lol |
| 03:21.28 | Zeal | i pre-ordered CE a while back :P |
| 03:22.40 | Hobinheim | rucky rucky.... |
| 03:22.48 | Hobinheim | i'm trying to think of a neato format for a quest guide... |
| 03:22.58 | Hobinheim | i was thinking on the bus today maybe an annotated checklist would be better |
| 03:23.05 | Hobinheim | instead of adding lots of noisy prose.... |
| 03:31.00 | Zeal | quest guide? on the wiki? :S |
| 03:42.19 | Hobinheim | yeah |
| 03:42.28 | Hobinheim | but under my userspace since someone complained about it |
| 03:48.24 | Zeal | :s |
| 04:17.40 | Hobinheim | what do you think |
| 04:17.40 | Hobinheim | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Hobinheim/quest_guide/Valley_of_Trials |
| 04:17.46 | Hobinheim | almost no prose |
| 04:24.36 | Zeal | tables.. my eyes they bleed.. lol |
| 04:25.11 | Zeal | i'm not sure what's going on on that page tbh :s |
| 04:25.38 | Adys | wow, when googling Adys, my wowwiki userpage is 6th oO just under the Battle of Adys on wikipedia |
| 04:25.53 | Adys | http://www.google.fr/search?q=adys |
| 04:25.59 | Hobinheim | the battle of adys, huh |
| 04:26.07 | Hobinheim | haha |
| 04:26.10 | Adys | The Battle of Adis (or Adys) was fought in 255 BC between Carthage and a Roman army led by Marcus Atilius Regulus. Regulus inflicted a crushing defeat upon the Carthaginians, and the latter then sued for peace. The First Punic War would continue, however, because the terms offered by Regulus were so harsh that the people of Carthage resolved to keep fighting. |
| 04:26.13 | Hobinheim | hey, you don't do www.google.fr? |
| 04:26.23 | Zeal | each box is a quest chain, which contains what needs to be done in order, and then what quests are part of that chain down the right, all of these found under their region? |
| 04:26.30 | Hobinheim | no dice a la francais |
| 04:26.40 | Adys | hob: nah Im so used to english websites |
| 04:26.53 | Zeal | 5th on .com :S |
| 04:27.09 | Hobinheim | each box is it's own thing |
| 04:27.14 | Hobinheim | i know it's a little confusing |
| 04:27.19 | Zeal | though i'm not counting User:Adys undey wikipedia |
| 04:27.23 | Zeal | *under |
| 04:27.26 | Hobinheim | but i wanted to make it visually interesting because it's such a waste of horizontal space... |
| 04:27.40 | Zeal | all articles are >_> |
| 04:27.50 | Hobinheim | so.... you don't get it immediately? |
| 04:27.56 | Zeal | and yeah, it's nice, it looks pretty, but it's not pratical really. |
| 04:28.00 | Hobinheim | i mean, i'm in defense of the design, but if it really doesn't function, i guess i have to change it |
| 04:28.05 | Zeal | not immediately, no. |
| 04:28.07 | Hobinheim | what if it was just straight down |
| 04:28.09 | Hobinheim | one sec |
| 04:28.25 | Zeal | try throwing in Tasks and Quests as headers to the columns |
| 04:28.26 | Hobinheim | more obvious now right? |
| 04:29.00 | Zeal | positioning had nothing to do with it, unless there is supposed to be order of the box's i don't get. |
| 04:29.10 | Hobinheim | left to right |
| 04:29.17 | Hobinheim | the boxes are just of a funky size |
| 04:29.30 | Hobinheim | like a comic book =P |
| 04:30.30 | Zeal | yeah, issue with that though, floats favour the highest position over the most left (once again, css fails at doing what is most desirable) |
| 04:30.52 | Hobinheim | i was wondering wtf was up with that... |
| 04:30.52 | Zeal | so the differing heights of the box's result in is stupid positioning. |
| 04:30.58 | Zeal | *result in |
| 04:31.04 | Hobinheim | cuz it should have hugged the top |
| 04:31.07 | Hobinheim | like... you know. floating. |
| 04:31.12 | Zeal | so, making div columns for the page is needed. |
| 04:31.28 | Zeal | really, floats should desire the most left or the most right they can be. |
| 04:31.39 | Zeal | over the heighest. |
| 04:34.13 | Zeal | problem is, that would result in floats really being display: block, not display: inline. |
| 04:34.13 | Zeal | which isn't desriable either. |
| 04:34.46 | Hobinheim | so... is it not readable at all? |
| 04:34.51 | Zeal | it is |
| 04:34.57 | Hobinheim | i want like ... a brilliant. and terse layout |
| 04:35.05 | Zeal | but won't display well at different screen size. |
| 04:35.12 | Zeal | can screw up |
| 04:35.29 | Zeal | atm, how you have it, is fine. |
| 04:35.51 | Hobinheim | waste of horizontal space...>>!!!!! |
| 04:36.05 | Zeal | indeed |
| 04:37.24 | Zeal | i should be able to find you an example of the issues that can arize. |
| 04:37.27 | Zeal | *arise |
| 04:37.28 | Zeal | w/e |
| 04:37.44 | Hobinheim | so let's pretend you rolled orc/troll |
| 04:37.49 | Hobinheim | would that page be useful to you |
| 04:37.52 | Hobinheim | or in any zone really |
| 04:39.18 | Zeal | well problem is, you can't group them by zone as a guide, as alot of quests are acrss zones. |
| 04:39.27 | Hobinheim | but that's my goal! |
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| 04:39.37 | Hobinheim | i will triumph over that very adversity! |
| 04:39.42 | Hobinheim | TRIUMPH!!! |
| 04:39.54 | Hobinheim | so zone crossing aside |
| 04:40.50 | Zeal | http://www.wowwiki.com/Hellfire_Peninsula#Maps try looking at that at differnt resolutions |
| 04:41.18 | Zeal | it was originally worse, but i corrected it the best i could without resorting to adding columns and rows to handle it. |
| 04:42.29 | Zeal | if everything was just floated left, as you'd expect, the differing hieghts would cause serious problems : / |
| 04:42.33 | Hobinheim | ic |
| 04:42.39 | Hobinheim | iciciciic |
| 04:42.43 | Hobinheim | exact same problem i had |
| 04:42.55 | Zeal | indeed |
| 04:45.12 | Zeal | and yeah, that's a helpful guide, but i'm unsure any quest is deserving of a guide, and i don't think any quests require that sort of guide period. Quest's can easily enough just show the items/npc's needed, show what zoen they're in, desrcibe what needs to be done, and show the next quest in the chain. i'm still not sure what you're grouping them in boxes by, but the onyl sort of guide i can think of, is one showing what ques |
| 04:45.21 | Zeal | you can do at the same time to be more efficient. |
| 04:45.57 | Hobinheim | that's exactly what it is |
| 04:46.01 | Hobinheim | it groups it by relevancy |
| 04:46.09 | Hobinheim | all the bruning blade quests are done together |
| 04:46.10 | Zeal | i see |
| 04:46.20 | Hobinheim | wasn't clear...? =( |
| 04:46.35 | Zeal | i thought it might be, but wasn't clear no, sorry. |
| 04:46.43 | Zeal | that's the sorta thing lead in's are for though |
| 04:46.53 | Hobinheim | http://www.wowwiki.com/Hellfire_Peninsula#Maps |
| 04:46.56 | Hobinheim | n/m |
| 04:48.42 | Zeal | but yeah, in which case, i don't think the tasks need to be listed, just the quests, and i don't beleive an article is needed to express it, a category, or just some notes at the bottom of each quest would be fine. |
| 04:49.06 | Zeal | soemthing like "This quest can be done along with blah, blah, blah to save you time" |
| 04:59.56 | Zeal | i'm wondering, inlight of what happened, if speculation should always be it's own section (being split to a sub-page when grown too big). rather than just lumped in. Because really, there is in-universe speculation, and there is fan-speculation. |
| 05:00.09 | Zeal | leave the in-universe stuff with the rest of the lore, unmarked. |
| 05:00.27 | Zeal | while fan-sepculation is marked under a header. |
| 05:01.16 | Zeal | and make that a policy (guidline too weak) |
| 05:03.27 | Zeal | my bad there then.. : / |
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| 05:42.00 | Zeal | lo amro_ |
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| 06:11.49 | Zeal | wb Tekkub, vlad_ |
| 06:11.59 | Tekkub | :P |
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| 06:12.09 | Tekkub | vlad_, you around even? |
| 06:13.23 | Zeal | heh |
| 07:16.35 | Trae | 2 bubbles 2 60 |
| 07:16.36 | Trae | lol |
| 07:16.38 | Trae | nn |
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| 07:21.17 | kuinkala | lol |
| 07:21.18 | kuinkala | hehee |
| 07:50.19 | Zeal | heh |
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| 09:14.12 | Zeal | slowwiki.com |
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| 11:29.01 | Zeal | nn all |
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| 12:38.22 | slemfisk | can anyone tell me about WoW? i don't know anything about it.. |
| 12:38.38 | slemfisk | i've only been watching some friends play |
| 12:38.59 | slemfisk | and i thinking about trying it. |
| 12:41.14 | kaso | Well, in about a week the Burning crusade expansion pack is coming out |
| 12:41.18 | kaso | thatd be a good time to start |
| 12:41.31 | kaso | but, umm, whatcha wanna know about wow? |
| 12:43.18 | slemfisk | what do i need to get started? |
| 12:45.12 | kaso | A computer, a DSL line, a wow box and 10$ a month or whatever it is in US |
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| 12:46.26 | slemfisk | so i must buy The World of warcraft original and Burning crusade expansion pack as well? |
| 12:47.21 | kaso | No |
| 12:47.31 | kaso | if you buy TBC itll do |
| 12:47.41 | Teomyr | oO |
| 12:47.48 | kaso | you'll have access to all the old stuff plus the two new races and the outlands |
| 12:47.59 | slemfisk | with only Burning crusade expansion pack ? |
| 12:48.04 | Teomyr | kaso, source? |
| 12:48.11 | NCdeIgnis | hi:p i have simple question : buing gold on eBay , Legaly or not?:> |
| 12:48.30 | kaso | Its legal, its also against the EULA |
| 12:48.37 | slemfisk | brb |
| 12:48.37 | NCdeIgnis | O.o |
| 12:48.41 | kaso | you wont get put in jail for it |
| 12:48.53 | Teomyr | though blizzard may ban you from the game |
| 12:48.58 | NCdeIgnis | oh:/ |
| 12:49.24 | NCdeIgnis | so i better wont buy it=P |
| 12:49.42 | Apollozeus | you'd better not spend your money on something like that |
| 12:49.49 | Apollozeus | it's a waste |
| 12:49.53 | kaso | depends if you're on EU non of the GMs ever do anything so you're perfectly safe |
| 12:49.56 | kaso | >.< |
| 12:50.12 | Apollozeus | hmmm...he's polish |
| 12:50.13 | Apollozeus | so |
| 12:50.16 | Apollozeus | ... :P |
| 12:50.32 | NCdeIgnis | :> |
| 12:50.46 | kaso | well, in US the gold price is like 500$ /1000g because so many gold farmers get banned |
| 12:50.52 | kaso | in EU its like 30$ /1000g |
| 12:51.11 | Apollozeus | by $30 you mean 30 euros? |
| 12:51.21 | NCdeIgnis | in Poland 100gold / 12 EU ;) |
| 12:51.43 | kaso | Gold 1,000 $33.14 |
| 12:51.47 | Apollozeus | it's probably a better idea to invest a little in professions |
| 12:52.10 | slemfisk | i live in norway |
| 12:52.15 | slemfisk | don't know the price.. |
| 12:52.21 | NCdeIgnis | I'm mage :p i have harbalist and alchemy :/ elixirs in ah are so cheap:/ |
| 12:52.21 | Apollozeus | lol norwegians |
| 12:52.38 | NCdeIgnis | 10-20s:P |
| 12:52.41 | kaso | Teomyr i dont actually have a source now you say it im not totally sure, but it seems fairly common sense that you wont need wow to play TBC |
| 12:53.00 | Teomyr | im pretty sure you DO need the base wow |
| 12:53.03 | Apollozeus | don't need wow to play tbc? |
| 12:53.09 | Apollozeus | that soudns ridiculous, kaso |
| 12:53.09 | Apollozeus | D: |
| 12:53.14 | Apollozeus | sounds* |
| 12:53.23 | Apollozeus | it's an expansion pack, not a standalone |
| 12:53.50 | Apollozeus | in time they will develop wow + tbc packs.. but for now |
| 12:53.50 | kaso | why would blizzard want to force all these new people to spend like 80$ to start the game |
| 12:53.57 | Apollozeus | they don't exist |
| 12:53.59 | Apollozeus | well kaso |
| 12:54.19 | Apollozeus | they're more targeting the audience that already plays the game |
| 12:55.01 | kaso | im not so sure |
| 12:55.21 | Teomyr | well... if you're only starting to play, you probably don't need outlands and stuff (except for the new races) |
| 12:55.34 | Apollozeus | yes |
| 12:55.41 | Apollozeus | and in time, tbc's price will drop |
| 12:55.48 | kaso | what about the people who want to start wow and play a Blood elf then? are they screwed? |
| 12:55.52 | Apollozeus | and blizzard will start offering packs with both games |
| 12:55.58 | Apollozeus | yeah kaso, they're a little screwed |
| 12:56.13 | kaso | Im almost sure you wont need wow, lemme see if i can find anything on wow site |
| 12:56.29 | Apollozeus | you won't find it, I can tell you that beforehand |
| 12:56.48 | kaso | how is it only me that this seems totally obveous? |
| 12:57.01 | Apollozeus | because blizzard is a company |
| 12:57.14 | Apollozeus | aka, wants to make money |
| 12:57.22 | kaso | yah they dont want to alienate new customers over what is essentially nothing to them |
| 12:57.43 | Apollozeus | they're not.. the old wow is still available |
| 12:58.03 | kaso | 80$ to play a belf is alienating to me |
| 12:58.37 | Apollozeus | but hey, only $20 to play a night elf |
| 12:58.42 | Apollozeus | and the expansion pack won;t be 60 bucks |
| 12:59.10 | kaso | ok |
| 12:59.17 | Teomyr | amazon has wow $19.99, tbc $39.99 |
| 12:59.18 | kaso | You're right, i stand down |
| 13:01.22 | Apollozeus | hmm |
| 13:01.34 | Apollozeus | the price for regular WoW has dropped to below 17 euros on amazon.de |
| 13:01.41 | Apollozeus | I wonder if the rest of Europe will follow suit |
| 13:07.49 | Teomyr | Verfügbarkeit: Führen wir nicht oder nicht mehr - jetzt gebraucht vorbestellen. |
| 13:07.54 | Teomyr | sux |
| 13:10.57 | Apollozeus | just go to your local gamestore, lazy bumhole :P |
| 13:13.39 | Teomyr | i called today to pre-order |
| 13:13.48 | Teomyr | "hello, i'd like to pre-order a pc game..." |
| 13:13.54 | Teomyr | "lemme guess... world of warcraft?" |
| 13:14.49 | Teomyr | they've got a ton of pre-orders already and no idea of how many copies of the game they will actually get :o |
| 13:16.26 | kaso | if you want to buy Wow just go to wal*mart there was some leaked documents sayin how all thier stores are getting silly amounts of boxes |
| 13:18.41 | Teomyr | i'd like to avoid that, since of all the shops that might sell tbc, walmart is about the furthest from here ;) |
| 13:21.28 | Teomyr | this is ridiculous anyway... why do we need to rush the game stores to get a box and discs and stuff if all we need is the key |
| 13:25.38 | dok3Dal | if only we will be able to dl the expension from our account page and pay online to activate it |
| 13:25.52 | dok3Dal | that will be perfect |
| 13:26.44 | Teomyr | yes, guild wars does that |
| 13:27.01 | Teomyr | it has a store built into the game client where you can just upgrade your account |
| 13:27.19 | dok3Dal | that was great |
| 13:27.37 | dok3Dal | go to the IF componnent vendor |
| 13:27.44 | kaso | Teomyr indeed it is rather stupid, i mean i even have a working copy of TBC on my computer right now |
| 13:27.49 | dok3Dal | and buy the extension online :p |
| 13:28.21 | Teomyr | "Blizzard will also be providing you with the option to background download a significant portion of the expansion content in advance of release. You must still purchase the expansion and upgrade your account in order to play The Burning Crusade." |
| 13:28.27 | dok3Dal | [TBC Key] |
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| 13:48.33 | jrr | Teomyr: ?! |
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| 14:05.49 | Tepetkhet | New patch... |
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| 14:14.35 | Tepetkhet | 2.0.3 |
| 14:15.34 | Tepetkhet | *ROFL* |
| 14:15.52 | Tepetkhet | I was just checking to see if they were already up on wowwiki somewhere. |
| 14:15.56 | Tepetkhet | "World of Warcraft Client Patch 2.0.3 A.K.A We hate priests." |
| 14:16.34 | dok3Dal | Why "We hate priests" ? |
| 14:16.41 | Tepetkhet | I have no idea... |
| 14:16.45 | Tepetkhet | Ask whoever posted that. :/ |
| 14:16.53 | Tepetkhet | http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_2.0.3_(Release_Notes) |
| 14:18.54 | dok3Dal | in fact priest are cheated actually |
| 14:19.12 | dok3Dal | I really dont think that they have to cry |
| 14:20.07 | Tepetkhet | CrazyJack just fixed it, looks like. |
| 14:21.54 | Tepetkhet | Maybe it's because there were only 2 lines in there for priests. |
| 14:21.54 | Tepetkhet | Hunters only got 3. |
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| 14:35.44 | equiraptor | FINALLY someone in BB sells bullets. |
| 14:36.07 | wrs | hurrah |
| 14:36.17 | wrs | hopefully the same goes for arrows in ashenvale |
| 14:36.38 | Kirkburn | "A stirring of events has begun throughout Azeroth and rumor points to the Dark Portal as its source." |
| 14:36.44 | equiraptor | I'm less annoyed by that because I spend less time there on gun users. :) |
| 14:39.51 | dok3Dal | Still no "Added a new trinket with hit rating" |
| 14:40.32 | dok3Dal | fu*** drake fang talisman that doesnt drop |
| 14:42.22 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 14:42.49 | dok3Dal | on my server |
| 14:42.54 | dok3Dal | every one got it |
| 14:43.04 | dok3Dal | including ultimate-full-green-noob |
| 14:43.13 | dok3Dal | except me |
| 14:43.34 | Tepetkhet | I have Blackhand's Breadth and Rune of the Guard Captain. |
| 14:43.47 | dok3Dal | you play horde so |
| 14:43.51 | Tepetkhet | yeah |
| 14:43.59 | dok3Dal | Rune of the Guard Captain is the horde trinket with hit |
| 14:44.06 | dok3Dal | not available for ally |
| 14:44.19 | Tepetkhet | Yeah, I play "Ha ha still no Fear Ward". |
| 14:44.52 | dok3Dal | Good ally warrior know how to play without fear ward :p |
| 14:45.09 | Tepetkhet | Do they exist, though? ;) |
| 14:45.13 | dok3Dal | yes |
| 14:45.20 | equiraptor | Yes! Chomsky! |
| 14:45.35 | Tepetkhet | Hm. |
| 14:45.44 | Tepetkhet | I need one more piece of Nightslayer for my next set bonus. |
| 14:46.15 | Tepetkhet | I got the cap last night. :D |
| 14:46.29 | dok3Dal | But ok it is a fact that a lot of ally warrior are really bad |
| 14:46.40 | Tepetkhet | A lot of warriors are bad. |
| 14:46.42 | Tepetkhet | Period. |
| 14:47.06 | Tepetkhet | I was bored before a raid the other night and helped a couple warriors with their class quest. They were in their 30's. |
| 14:47.20 | dok3Dal | blessing of salvation and fear ward : any noob can tank in an ally raid |
| 14:47.29 | Tepetkhet | I was telling them when I was about to leave, "Well, good luck to you. Don't forget to use your taunt and SUNDER SUNDER SUNDER!" |
| 14:47.38 | Tepetkhet | And they were like, "My what? I never use that..." |
| 14:48.10 | jrr | i think there are more okay warriors than bad ones |
| 14:48.17 | jrr | it can be hard to master the stance dance |
| 14:48.28 | Tepetkhet | I told them to start using taunt and their groupmates will love them. Also told them to pick up a good shield. "A shield?? Then I can't use my nice 2-handed axe..." |
| 14:48.31 | Tepetkhet | Trust me, kids. |
| 14:48.34 | Tepetkhet | heh |
| 14:48.59 | Tepetkhet | I linked them the Buru Skull Fragment our MT has and they were all, "Whoah! I'm gonna start using shields!" |
| 14:49.12 | dok3Dal | hard to watch a timer for changing stance and activate a skill? |
| 14:49.24 | dok3Dal | or watch the screen shake? |
| 14:49.50 | equiraptor | I suspect mastering balancing the rage, etc. may be the hard part. But I've never tanked anything important, so.... |
| 14:50.08 | Tepetkhet | When to taunt. |
| 14:50.12 | Tepetkhet | That seems to be a big issue. |
| 14:50.46 | equiraptor | Is that really still an issue for warriors tanking 40 mans? |
| 14:50.51 | Tepetkhet | With several tanks around..."WTF? Why'd you taunt??" |
| 14:50.52 | Tepetkhet | yeah |
| 14:50.53 | Tepetkhet | It is. |
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| 14:51.29 | equiraptor | Hrm. I mean, sometimes our warriors would have a bit of trouble with it when they needed to trade aggro in a specific pattern using taunt... But people didn't just randomly fire it off. |
| 14:51.33 | dok3Dal | good warrior never taunt except on the bwl drake :p |
| 14:51.55 | equiraptor | Sometimes one of our mages would make a warrior taunt. |
| 14:51.59 | equiraptor | He... enjoyed pulling aggo. |
| 14:52.02 | Tepetkhet | Sometimes one tank tries to taunt it randomly off of the main tank. |
| 14:52.16 | equiraptor | 50 dkp minus! |
| 14:52.18 | Tepetkhet | heh |
| 14:52.32 | equiraptor | Really, if it's still hard for them at that point, punish the little bastards. |
| 14:52.33 | Tepetkhet | And then sometimes the tank doesn't taunt it off the ranged DPS. |
| 14:52.46 | Tepetkhet | haha |
| 14:52.53 | Tepetkhet | More like, "That is a 50g repair bill minus!" |
| 14:53.09 | equiraptor | Obviously they don't care enough about that. :-P |
| 14:53.12 | Tepetkhet | Okay, more like 10g. |
| 14:54.05 | dok3Dal | most of the tank watch a 3 inch square of their screen with 3 skills on it and click and sometimes didnt even notice they had loose agro |
| 14:54.56 | dok3Dal | (hum my english is broken :/) |
| 14:55.17 | Tepetkhet | No, that makes sense. Should be "lose aggro" though. |
| 14:55.27 | Tepetkhet | er, lost aggro |
| 14:55.33 | Tepetkhet | They had lost aggro. |
| 14:56.00 | Tepetkhet | s/lose aggro/lost aggro/ |
| 14:56.04 | Tepetkhet | heh |
| 14:56.10 | dok3Dal | I will try to remember :p |
| 14:56.28 | Tepetkhet | Darn. Didn't work. |
| 14:56.41 | Tepetkhet | my regex is broken |
| 14:59.28 | dok3Dal | http://www.thottbot.com/beta?f=a&loc=Trinket&name=&minrl=&maxrl=&minl=&maxl=&stat1=&c1=gt&v1=&stat2=&c2=gt&v2=&stat3=&c3=gt&v3=&stat4=&c4=gt&v4=&stat5=&c5=gt&v5=&e=929 |
| 14:59.54 | dok3Dal | no trinket with hit even on beta except DFT and Kiss |
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| 15:18.21 | Tepetkhet | hahaha! |
| 15:18.31 | Kirkburn | hrm? |
| 15:18.34 | Tepetkhet | I can't wait to craft me a purple pimp hat! |
| 15:18.39 | Tepetkhet | http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/spell.html?wspell=32485&source=test&source=test |
| 15:21.21 | Kirkburn | lol |
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| 15:41.49 | Apollozeus | Requires Level 69 |
| 15:41.50 | Apollozeus | damnit |
| 15:41.56 | Apollozeus | can't use those hats early on :( |
| 15:43.26 | Apollozeus | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Server:Stormreaver_US&curid=16322&action=history |
| 15:43.29 | Apollozeus | what the hell... |
| 15:44.33 | jrr | wow he spent a long time on that |
| 15:44.46 | Kirkburn | Someone doesn't know how to preview :/ |
| 15:45.14 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Server:Stormreaver_US&limit=500&action=history |
| 15:45.25 | Kirkburn | Jesu christe! |
| 15:45.44 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=Nooga |
| 15:46.22 | Kirkburn | Does he have anything to do with his day apart from edit it? |
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| 15:58.30 | Hobinheim | wow that 10,000 club icon is ugly, lol |
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| 16:07.45 | Apollozeus | ? |
| 16:07.50 | Apollozeus | what's so ugly about it |
| 16:08.32 | Apollozeus | I mean |
| 16:08.36 | Apollozeus | brian peppers < that icon |
| 16:09.45 | Hobinheim | who's brian peppers? |
| 16:09.49 | Hobinheim | is he a world boss? |
| 16:10.28 | Hobinheim | what did you make me google |
| 16:10.46 | Kirkburn | ... |
| 16:11.18 | Apollozeus | rofl |
| 16:11.28 | Apollozeus | believe it or not |
| 16:11.32 | Apollozeus | that man is a sex offender |
| 16:12.25 | Hobinheim | i dunno i didn't actually click on anything. i stopped at the word sex offender |
| 16:13.02 | Tepetkhet | This debuff cannot be dispelled...and persists after death. |
| 16:14.42 | jrr | and is surprised when the buff persists rerolling |
| 16:15.39 | Apollozeus | you guys may want to lock Server:Stormreaver US |
| 16:15.56 | Apollozeus | some whackasses keep editing it with little to no purpose |
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| 16:17.16 | Kirkburn | He's updating it |
| 16:18.25 | Kirkburn | Wow, Simpsons anime! http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/46036660/ |
| 16:18.49 | Apollozeus | my ass |
| 16:19.04 | Apollozeus | he's inserting stuff nobody cares about |
| 16:23.25 | watchout | Hey. If you have time please look at http://www.wowwiki.com/Category_talk:Quests:Warlock I'm not sure about what to do ;) |
| 16:24.16 | Hobinheim | if there's something funking in regards to quest/class categories, i've been meaning to go over that |
| 16:24.41 | Hobinheim | and yeah nooga makes lots of micro edits, it annoys the crap outta me |
| 16:24.57 | watchout | Me too - but I have an exam tomorrow so not today though ;P |
| 16:25.05 | Hobinheim | for now, don't worry about duplicate class/quest categories; i'll address that at some point in time |
| 16:25.20 | Hobinheim | is the wiki not loading for anyone? |
| 16:25.25 | jrr | yeah |
| 16:25.32 | watchout | its a bit slow, but working |
| 16:25.41 | Hobinheim | heh for once i'm not to blame |
| 16:25.44 | Hobinheim | oh it's a tuesday! |
| 16:25.45 | watchout | ok raelly slow |
| 16:25.48 | Tepetkhet | hah |
| 16:25.55 | Tepetkhet | So that's at least twice now. |
| 16:26.01 | Hobinheim | maybe i should leave a message on noog'a talk |
| 16:27.05 | watchout | Hobin, what are you planning to do on quest cats? |
| 16:27.31 | Hobinheim | if everyone uses the questbox template, it auto categorizes quests used by the quest cat system used in game |
| 16:27.48 | Hobinheim | w/e i can't get in |
| 16:27.53 | Hobinheim | i'll make a memo of it that i'll never read |
| 16:27.57 | Hobinheim | so ... one day i'll sort it all out |
| 16:29.04 | Hobinheim | if an admin could sign on to the site, could you make a heavy suggestion to nooga to stop making micro edits |
| 16:29.10 | Hobinheim | and like... use preview more often |
| 16:29.54 | watchout | what like... because I wanted to rid most quest pages of the "quests" category |
| 16:30.11 | Hobinheim | what do you mean |
| 16:30.28 | Hobinheim | btw what happened april/may in the world of warcraft that we got an insane amount of page hits? |
| 16:31.09 | watchout | no idea, maybe many birthday presents? |
| 16:31.50 | Kirkburn | E3 |
| 16:31.54 | watchout | I want to clean up http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:Quests so that the quests are in subcats not in the top one |
| 16:32.09 | Kirkburn | Good idea |
| 16:32.10 | Hobinheim | hey, you and me think a like |
| 16:32.15 | Hobinheim | it's been on my to do list... |
| 16:32.22 | Hobinheim | quests should either be in horde, alliance or neutral |
| 16:32.31 | Hobinheim | and then they should also be in a warcraft cat |
| 16:32.36 | watchout | yes, or class subcats, etc.. |
| 16:32.37 | Hobinheim | which is usually a zone, season, or class |
| 16:32.47 | Hobinheim | and neutral is a subcat of alliance and of horde |
| 16:32.50 | Hobinheim | and then that's it! |
| 16:33.11 | Hobinheim | if you would take a stap, i'd much appreciate it |
| 16:33.13 | watchout | hm, another question since we're already on the matter... |
| 16:33.28 | Hobinheim | oh and remember that the quest cat matches what the GAME says, not where the quest actually occurs |
| 16:33.40 | Hobinheim | like if an orgrimmar quest tels you to go to ungoro, the proper questcat is orgrimmar |
| 16:33.46 | Hobinheim | stupid, i konw, but blizzard is stupid too... |
| 16:33.55 | watchout | I saw some disambiguation pages with the quests category, I would remove that too, what do you think? |
| 16:34.08 | Hobinheim | no, some quests really do need disambigs |
| 16:34.14 | Hobinheim | like warlock quests or shared events across factions |
| 16:34.26 | watchout | yes, but do those need the quests cat? |
| 16:34.27 | Hobinheim | we have to namespace them... so... we do need a root quest to tell people where to go |
| 16:34.32 | watchout | they are no quests |
| 16:34.34 | Hobinheim | uhh.... hmm.... |
| 16:34.39 | Hobinheim | yeah. they should |
| 16:34.41 | Hobinheim | sloppy, i know |
| 16:34.47 | Hobinheim | but... that's just a limitation we have to work with |
| 16:35.16 | watchout | hm, but I dont think it would do any harm if they hadnt the quests cat |
| 16:35.44 | watchout | since the linked pages there naturally will have the proper cats |
| 16:37.36 | jrr | i wish war3 could do the full screen 'windowed' mode that wow has - allowing the mouse to scoot over to a second display |
| 16:38.25 | Teomyr | jrr: http://synergy2.sf.net ;) |
| 16:38.31 | watchout | ah, I never had a 2nd display - this doesnt work in real full screen mode? |
| 16:39.19 | jrr | Teomyr: i only use one machine atm, though i'm a huge fan of synergy |
| 16:39.31 | jrr | watchout: correct |
| 16:39.52 | Hobinheim | forum question of the day: do females play paladins? |
| 16:39.56 | jrr | though there's a weird mode in which it's windowed but without a taskbar or border decorations, taking up the whole screen |
| 16:40.01 | watchout | yes they do! |
| 16:40.03 | Hobinheim | follow up question: are there any female paladin dwarves? |
| 16:40.11 | Tepetkhet | Yes. |
| 16:40.24 | Tepetkhet | My ex's girlfriend plays one. |
| 16:41.02 | Tepetkhet | I am a female and I will be playing a Blood Knight after the expansion. |
| 16:41.05 | watchout | hehe, I used to be always in guilds with a good amount of female players - one even played a male night elf! |
| 16:41.05 | Tepetkhet | I think. |
| 16:41.05 | jrr | i wonder if there are any significant gender class biases |
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| 16:41.13 | Apollozeus | there are many females who like to play dwarves |
| 16:41.17 | equiraptor | My pally should have bene a dwarf. My rogue should have been a gnome. |
| 16:41.22 | equiraptor | I just don't like playing humans. |
| 16:41.26 | Apollozeus | just because they "do not look like the average teenager's wet dream" |
| 16:41.26 | Tepetkhet | I hate dwarf females. |
| 16:41.37 | Tepetkhet | I'm always making fun of my kid's dwarf shadowpriestess. |
| 16:41.44 | Tepetkhet | Named Dunkelheit. |
| 16:41.45 | Tepetkhet | hah |
| 16:41.45 | Apollozeus | lol I hate those fat bastards |
| 16:42.00 | Tepetkhet | Has the buns in her hair. |
| 16:42.01 | Teomyr | lol tep |
| 16:42.05 | Apollozeus | lol deutsch |
| 16:42.08 | Tepetkhet | Ja. |
| 16:42.09 | Teomyr | zomg |
| 16:42.13 | jrr | klar |
| 16:42.32 | Apollozeus | toll |
| 16:42.39 | Tepetkhet | Meine dochter sprechen sie Deutsch or something. |
| 16:42.40 | Apollozeus | <_< seem to a lot of german people here |
| 16:42.56 | Apollozeus | "My daughter speaks you German" <-- :P |
| 16:42.58 | watchout | scared? |
| 16:43.00 | Tepetkhet | er |
| 16:43.01 | Tepetkhet | heh |
| 16:43.16 | Apollozeus | Meine Tochter spricht Deutsch |
| 16:43.20 | Apollozeus | no |
| 16:43.23 | watchout | I speak german too ;P |
| 16:43.29 | Apollozeus | hmm.. *grabs dictionary* |
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| 16:43.32 | Tepetkhet | I only know a few words in German. |
| 16:44.10 | Tepetkhet | I don't really know sentence structure, articles, conjugation. :( |
| 16:44.10 | Tepetkhet | So in other words, I don't know German. |
| 16:44.10 | Tepetkhet | heh |
| 16:44.10 | jrr | adjektiv endungen sind schwer für mich |
| 16:44.23 | Apollozeus | I've taken it in school |
| 16:44.23 | jrr | ich auch |
| 16:44.26 | Tepetkhet | I can read it a little...pick out a few words and get the general idea sometimes. |
| 16:44.46 | Tepetkhet | And babelfish fills in the rest. |
| 16:44.46 | Tepetkhet | heh |
| 16:44.46 | Apollozeus | I need to prepare a whole speech in German for tomorrow D: |
| 16:44.50 | watchout | um, I don't know german grammar neither and it's my native language... who cares? |
| 16:44.51 | Teomyr | hehe |
| 16:44.51 | Tepetkhet | noooo |
| 16:44.58 | Tepetkhet | *rofl* |
| 16:45.08 | Apollozeus | seems to go for many americans too |
| 16:45.19 | Apollozeus | they're and their, it's and its |
| 16:45.25 | Apollozeus | things like that |
| 16:45.25 | watchout | hm, good online dictionary is http://dict.leo.org |
| 16:45.49 | Tepetkhet | Apollozeus: then/than |
| 16:45.52 | Tepetkhet | :( |
| 16:45.54 | Apollozeus | yeah, that too |
| 16:46.10 | jrr | seeing simple stuff like that messed up antagonizes me to no end |
| 16:46.23 | Apollozeus | me too |
| 16:46.29 | jrr | the worst is probably using ' for plurals |
| 16:46.31 | Tepetkhet | jrr: Moi aussi. |
| 16:46.31 | Apollozeus | and english is not even my native language |
| 16:46.32 | Tepetkhet | heh |
| 16:46.39 | equiraptor | http://notslacker.com/things/pullet-surprise.php |
| 16:46.40 | jrr | it's bad at grocery stores when they sell bean's |
| 16:46.43 | Apollozeus | and hell, even I get it right everytime |
| 16:46.43 | Tepetkhet | Watashi mo. |
| 16:47.01 | Teomyr | aaah, i hate those "plural's". they're very common in german too |
| 16:47.12 | Teomyr | and also wrong |
| 16:47.22 | Tepetkhet | heh |
| 16:47.51 | Tepetkhet | Meine Tochter spricht Deutsches? |
| 16:47.57 | Teomyr | Deutsch |
| 16:48.03 | Tepetkhet | Da heck |
| 16:48.09 | watchout | hehe |
| 16:48.24 | Tepetkhet | That's what I thought. |
| 16:48.49 | Tepetkhet | "pullet surprise" |
| 16:48.50 | Tepetkhet | hahaha |
| 16:48.53 | Tepetkhet | Nice, equiraptor. |
| 16:48.56 | jrr | interesting - this article suggests that the mistake of confusing phonetically similar words that are spelled differently comes from learning words verbally without reading them much |
| 16:49.25 | equiraptor | Article? |
| 16:49.33 | watchout | hm, I will never have that problem... I'm only writing in english |
| 16:49.38 | equiraptor | I wouldn't call it an article... ;) |
| 16:50.10 | Teomyr | pullet surprise? lol |
| 16:50.12 | jrr | page |
| 16:50.13 | jrr | whatevs |
| 16:50.38 | equiraptor | I just remember when the page was thrown together, and calling it an "article" is giving Nugget too much journalistic credit. ;) |
| 16:51.04 | Tepetkhet | Hey equi... |
| 16:51.21 | Tepetkhet | Shouldn't "modern english" be capitalized? |
| 16:51.29 | Tepetkhet | At least the E? |
| 16:51.30 | Tepetkhet | heh |
| 16:51.40 | equiraptor | heh |
| 16:52.07 | Tepetkhet | bwahaha |
| 16:52.08 | Tepetkhet | volumptuous |
| 16:52.10 | jrr | once upon my childhood, upon hearing in a country song that a pair of cowboy boots had ruined a "black tie affair", i assumed "tiaffair" was a kind of flooring |
| 16:52.25 | Kirkburn | Tepetkhet, yes |
| 16:53.24 | Tepetkhet | "tie someone over" ... |
| 16:53.35 | Tepetkhet | This has a slightly different usage where I come from... |
| 16:53.40 | Tepetkhet | hahaha |
| 16:53.45 | Tepetkhet | Booby trapped! |
| 16:53.47 | watchout | "I'd just assumeI'd just as soon" what...!? |
| 16:53.51 | equiraptor | Haha |
| 16:54.18 | Kirkburn | Who's british here? |
| 16:54.31 | Kirkburn | [Zeal], whoever else: http://gamepolitics.com/2007/01/08/games-illiteracy-says-british-conservative/#more-571 |
| 16:54.33 | Tepetkhet | Not I...but I lived in England for 3 years. |
| 16:54.36 | equiraptor | Lots 'a people on the IRC channel that came up with that page. |
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| 16:55.17 | Hobinheim | who knows german? |
| 16:55.27 | jrr | several |
| 16:55.33 | Hobinheim | do you? |
| 16:55.39 | jrr | a bit |
| 16:55.50 | Hobinheim | does hobinheim sound german? |
| 16:55.58 | jrr | sorta |
| 16:56.02 | watchout | not too |
| 16:56.05 | Hobinheim | lol |
| 16:56.11 | Teomyr | the second part |
| 16:56.15 | jrr | heim |
| 16:56.20 | Adys | hello watchout =) |
| 16:56.21 | Hobinheim | that's what i was going for =) |
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| 16:56.33 | Teomyr | it's a german word for home |
| 16:56.34 | Kirkburn | slowwiki? |
| 16:56.36 | watchout | hey Adys |
| 16:56.43 | Adys | yep kirk |
| 16:56.47 | Teomyr | so one might assume that you're german ;) |
| 16:56.50 | Kirkburn | k |
| 16:57.07 | Hobinheim | slowwiki is not my fault today! |
| 16:57.24 | Kirkburn | So I guess people have seen my comments on the village pump? |
| 16:57.26 | watchout | well I had a char named "Calden" and I found out that there's a town in germany named exactly that way... |
| 16:57.58 | jrr | most of my char's names are based on german words |
| 16:58.01 | Kirkburn | I was insulted live on wowradio yesterday, much fun :) |
| 16:58.08 | Hobinheim | the comments about being slammed on the radio? |
| 16:58.10 | Teomyr | probably more of a village, watchout. never heard of it :D |
| 16:58.12 | Adys | hehe, I named my first character Adys by typing something random on the keyboard and removing crappy letters |
| 16:58.15 | Hobinheim | you were insulted or the wiki was insulted? |
| 16:58.19 | Adys | and then I found out about the battle of adys |
| 16:58.23 | Hobinheim | did you soul link yourself t othe wiki again? what did i tell you about that |
| 16:58.33 | Adys | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Adys |
| 16:58.45 | Hobinheim | oh i thought the battle of adys was french |
| 16:58.49 | watchout | Teomyr, I was asked dozens of times if I lived in calden :P |
| 16:58.50 | Kirkburn | "The attutide of people on the wiki", and it was referencing the fact I was pointing out errors in the host's position |
| 16:58.52 | Hobinheim | i didn't even look at it yet. is it? |
| 16:59.01 | Teomyr | watchout: rly? oO |
| 16:59.16 | Hobinheim | what's the name of the episode |
| 16:59.39 | Tepetkhet | My char's name is something I made up from 2 Egyptian words. |
| 16:59.40 | Kirkburn | It wasn't a direct insult, but it was directed this way :/ |
| 16:59.44 | Tepetkhet | It means, roughly, First Thing. |
| 16:59.50 | Tepetkhet | Since this is my first char. |
| 16:59.56 | Kirkburn | (uh, if that makes sense?) |
| 17:00.01 | Tepetkhet | And it's an undead thing. |
| 17:00.04 | Hobinheim | hobinheim comes from me copying an anime character |
| 17:00.08 | Tepetkhet | hah |
| 17:00.14 | Tepetkhet | From what anime? |
| 17:00.15 | Hobinheim | and my other character name is copying something from naruto |
| 17:00.21 | Hobinheim | so i get occasional tells from other naruto namers |
| 17:00.24 | Hobinheim | try guessing |
| 17:00.28 | Hobinheim | the rest of my names are alts and gibberish |
| 17:00.34 | Teomyr | http://www.rinkworks.com/namegen/ |
| 17:00.36 | Kirkburn | Hobinheim, http://www.wcradio.com/archive/lorekeepers/wow-lorekeepers-010107.mp3 ? |
| 17:00.38 | Hobinheim | my new thing is to name alts after geographic locations |
| 17:00.40 | watchout | Teomyr, yes rly :) |
| 17:00.49 | Hobinheim | but i'm still trying to think of a punny name for my blood knight |
| 17:01.05 | Tepetkhet | I was going to make a male named Purdymouth. |
| 17:01.20 | jrr | i'll reveal an awesome blood elf name, as i already have it reserved on my server - legoLOLs |
| 17:01.26 | watchout | Hobinheim, was he named Naarutoo ? :P |
| 17:01.43 | Tepetkhet | How about Leggomyeggolas? |
| 17:01.45 | Kirkburn | The people on the wcradio show made a good point about some articles, but it was unfairly made :( |
| 17:01.48 | Hobinheim | i made an AWESOME blood elf hunter name that i won't be rolling |
| 17:01.49 | Hobinheim | BLOODSHOT |
| 17:01.55 | Tepetkhet | hahaha |
| 17:01.56 | Tepetkhet | Nice. |
| 17:02.01 | Hobinheim | kirk, just dispel... it's ok |
| 17:02.11 | Hobinheim | reflect, renew, dispel |
| 17:02.26 | Kirkburn | Oh I'm fine, but I do want to have a chat with the host to 'clear the air' :) |
| 17:02.30 | Tepetkhet | Legolassmonkey? |
| 17:02.47 | Kirkburn | It's silly that she bases her opinions on how the wiki was almost a year ago |
| 17:02.50 | Tepetkhet | Or Legolasshat? |
| 17:02.59 | jrr | that's a good one |
| 17:03.08 | Teomyr | did you ever had a look at the dbc files for the name/chat profanity filter? |
| 17:03.15 | watchout | Kirkburn, will I have them if I listen to the show? |
| 17:03.17 | Tepetkhet | Nope. |
| 17:03.19 | watchout | *hate |
| 17:03.26 | Kirkburn | watchout, have what? |
| 17:03.29 | Teomyr | at least the german one is scary, there are many swear words i would never had thought of |
| 17:03.36 | Tepetkhet | hah |
| 17:03.38 | watchout | Kirkburn, typo meant "hate" |
| 17:03.51 | Hobinheim | the production quality is terrible... |
| 17:03.52 | Kirkburn | Oh, listen to the last few mins of the show |
| 17:04.03 | Kirkburn | I stopped listening when she started ranting |
| 17:04.07 | Hobinheim | UGH it's over and HOUR? |
| 17:04.08 | Hobinheim | wtf |
| 17:04.09 | Teomyr | downloading at 13.2 KB/s! |
| 17:04.12 | Tepetkhet | I don't usually pick silly char names. |
| 17:04.15 | Hobinheim | yeah lame sauce |
| 17:04.18 | watchout | her voice is actually a bit nerving... |
| 17:04.22 | Tepetkhet | I do have Purdymouth reserved just for the heck of it. |
| 17:04.46 | Tepetkhet | And I have a warlock on another server in <ZOMG GILD> named Zomgmoredots. |
| 17:05.02 | Kirkburn | Zeal submitted a question: "point out 5 major errors on the wiki", at which point she started pointing to speculation articles :( |
| 17:05.37 | Hobinheim | i want to make a guild that doesn't use dkp |
| 17:05.37 | Hobinheim | but i don't have the heart to poopsock |
| 17:05.37 | Tepetkhet | Oh, and I have a NE named Sharmoota. She's holding a spot for a Draenei female. I've been practicing hopping on mailboxes and dancing. |
| 17:05.45 | Kirkburn | Sorted those articles to make it especially clear what's speculation and what's not now, should help :) |
| 17:05.47 | Tepetkhet | Hobinheim: Suicide Kings? |
| 17:05.56 | Hobinheim | no, nothing |
| 17:05.57 | Hobinheim | just roll |
| 17:06.02 | Kirkburn | I haven't thought of my draenei's name yet |
| 17:06.02 | Tepetkhet | ah |
| 17:06.07 | Hobinheim | like i said last night, she's just ungrateful |
| 17:06.10 | Tepetkhet | Sharmoota is Arabic. |
| 17:06.11 | Hobinheim | it's a volunteer project |
| 17:06.17 | Hobinheim | maybe she should put her money where her mouth is |
| 17:06.23 | Hobinheim | dirty hoowah |
| 17:06.28 | Tepetkhet | Yup! |
| 17:06.37 | Hobinheim | none of us are getting paid for this |
| 17:06.54 | Tepetkhet | Well, Sharmoota better get paid for her mailbox dances. |
| 17:06.55 | Kirkburn | It's hardly even a business :P |
| 17:07.00 | Kirkburn | Tepetkhet, lol |
| 17:07.09 | Tepetkhet | Need some way of buying stuff from the Alliance AH. ;) |
| 17:07.14 | Tepetkhet | I'm kidding. I kid. |
| 17:07.40 | Kirkburn | (I meant the wiki is hardly a business, you can't get much more neutral than us) |
| 17:07.44 | Tepetkhet | All my serious char names begin with a T. |
| 17:07.51 | Hobinheim | i think i need to join an alt-itis support gorup |
| 17:08.04 | jrr | Hobinheim: have too many? |
| 17:08.17 | Tepetkhet | So I'm trying to find something good in Elvish to name my future female Blood Knight. |
| 17:08.20 | jrr | i have something like 300 total levels among all my chars, with only one 60 |
| 17:08.34 | Kirkburn | Teh internets! I can'ts reaches its! |
| 17:08.53 | Kirkburn | oh, oh, back now :/ |
| 17:09.49 | watchout | Hm, why they rant about wowwiki anyway? If they think something's wrong they can edit it anyway |
| 17:10.46 | Tepetkhet | Not much available from the Elvish languages in WoW. |
| 17:10.54 | Tepetkhet | So I was hunting down some Tolkien. |
| 17:10.57 | Hobinheim | i'm starting to develop this fear of new areas |
| 17:11.05 | Hobinheim | i like doing quests efficiently; i hate walking back and forth |
| 17:11.08 | Hobinheim | and i like knowing what to do |
| 17:11.14 | Tepetkhet | Unfortunately, reading anything Tolkien-related makes me want to gouge my own eyes out with a spork. |
| 17:11.18 | Hobinheim | so i had this brilliant plan to make tons of alts |
| 17:11.23 | Hobinheim | so that i could get the grind down to a science |
| 17:11.31 | Hobinheim | i've made zero progress and i've yet to hit 60 |
| 17:11.35 | jrr | roffle |
| 17:11.37 | Hobinheim | all i have to show for it is more alts |
| 17:11.38 | Hobinheim | more more more |
| 17:11.47 | Hobinheim | cuz i'm really curious how other classes play |
| 17:11.48 | Tepetkhet | Okay, now stop alts. |
| 17:11.52 | Hobinheim | like i wanna know how a mage tanks |
| 17:11.55 | Hobinheim | or what a shadow priest is like |
| 17:11.57 | Tepetkhet | Roll it like you mean it! |
| 17:12.01 | jrr | Hobinheim: if you ever do get it down to a science, that'd be great for the wiki |
| 17:12.13 | jrr | i love when i kill something, getting quest credit, and it drops quest items for two other quests |
| 17:12.19 | Tepetkhet | hahaha |
| 17:12.25 | Hobinheim | that's my goal |
| 17:12.32 | watchout | Hobinheim, problem is that if you have tons of alts you get bored fast because you do the same quests... |
| 17:12.34 | Hobinheim | i've moved my quest guides into my user space, someone complaied about it, haha |
| 17:12.39 | Hobinheim | yeah i do burn out quickly |
| 17:12.44 | Hobinheim | and i'm developing this hate for rogues |
| 17:12.47 | Tepetkhet | :( |
| 17:12.48 | Hobinheim | mages and warriors grind pretty fast |
| 17:12.53 | Hobinheim | rogues = ZOMG WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU |
| 17:12.59 | Hobinheim | btw we're talking < level 10 |
| 17:13.01 | Tepetkhet | ;_; |
| 17:13.08 | Hobinheim | all the sneaking around i can't fucking handle it |
| 17:13.12 | Tepetkhet | Oh, geez. |
| 17:13.26 | Tepetkhet | Yeah, before you get your subtlety talents, it's like, you want to get out and PUUUUSH. |
| 17:13.29 | Hobinheim | i'm a demonology lock. i like to keep them far and away |
| 17:13.30 | Tepetkhet | They move so slow. |
| 17:13.46 | Tepetkhet | Sneak........................................sneak........................................sneak...........................*poke* |
| 17:13.51 | watchout | I love sneaking actually :) |
| 17:13.51 | Hobinheim | hate that... |
| 17:13.53 | Hobinheim | mage is fun |
| 17:14.02 | Hobinheim | blast blast BLAST ohshitnomoremana BLAST BLAST |
| 17:14.04 | watchout | rogues have dash! |
| 17:14.14 | Tepetkhet | I remember when I rolled a rogue clone on a PvP server and started over. |
| 17:14.16 | Tepetkhet | I couldn't stand it. |
| 17:14.19 | jrr | without any improved sneak speed, it can suck trying to walk up behind something that walks faster than you do |
| 17:14.23 | Tepetkhet | yeah |
| 17:14.25 | Hobinheim | yeah |
| 17:14.43 | Hobinheim | i've wondered what affliction and destro are like. i haven't even tried those |
| 17:14.47 | Hobinheim | destro i think i would like |
| 17:14.49 | watchout | use blind ;) |
| 17:15.03 | watchout | Hobinheim, destro rocks actually |
| 17:15.24 | watchout | I respecced my warlock after the patch and its so much fun |
| 17:15.44 | watchout | You run oom after 1min but its worth it :P |
| 17:16.00 | Kirkburn | (Back to wcradio - Strixus, the female host, had a bad experience on the wiki back in march it seems. The Rexxar article showed incorrect info, which she pointed out on the talk page. She never got a response. As far as I can tell, that was her only article contribution.) |
| 17:16.46 | watchout | Um, we cant watch all pages |
| 17:17.28 | Kirkburn | I find it a great shame someone's view can be so tainted, and they spread it to others from their position |
| 17:17.49 | jrr | Kirkburn: like politically active hollywood actors =] |
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| 17:18.05 | watchout | wowwiki is still a great source of info no matter what |
| 17:18.19 | Kirkburn | jrr, indeed, they should phone that new number to check their facts first ;) |
| 17:18.43 | Tepetkhet | Hm? |
| 17:18.56 | Tepetkhet | 1-800-GET-CLUE? |
| 17:19.01 | Hobinheim | destro... does blasting stuff offset how much mana you spend |
| 17:19.08 | Hobinheim | and shards... |
| 17:19.13 | Kirkburn | Some people have set up a service for celebs to check their facts before they spread it to the world |
| 17:19.20 | Tepetkhet | hahaha |
| 17:19.27 | Kirkburn | They *need* it :) |
| 17:19.43 | jrr | for ppl like rosie/donald |
| 17:20.19 | watchout | Hobinheim, actually not so many shards, at least not in pve and battlegrounds. Big shardbags always help though |
| 17:22.06 | Hobinheim | shadowburn and soulfire |
| 17:22.18 | Hobinheim | i dunno i have this ... thing. i like knowing stuff. and playing stuff out in my head. more knowledge! |
| 17:22.34 | Hobinheim | i wish warcraft was like final fantasy xii, where you could gambit your party members |
| 17:22.36 | Hobinheim | that'd be HOTT |
| 17:22.43 | watchout | shadowburn gives the shard back, and soulfire is on 1min timer |
| 17:23.02 | Hobinheim | i thought it was 2 min |
| 17:23.06 | Hobinheim | or 1 min with talents? |
| 17:23.16 | Hobinheim | do you cast dots at all? |
| 17:24.07 | watchout | as destro - agony and immolate |
| 17:24.15 | watchout | not always agony though |
| 17:24.18 | Kirkburn | jrr, http://www.gsn.com/minigames/minigame.php?id=13 |
| 17:24.21 | Hobinheim | corruption not even? |
| 17:24.32 | Hobinheim | what 2nd tree do destros usually go |
| 17:24.35 | Hobinheim | affliction, right? |
| 17:25.11 | watchout | depends I guess, I put 5 pts in demonology |
| 17:25.17 | Hobinheim | which five |
| 17:25.18 | watchout | rest in destro |
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| 17:25.43 | watchout | um... I can't remember the name - it raises stamina by 15% |
| 17:25.49 | Hobinheim | fel stamina |
| 17:25.50 | watchout | or so |
| 17:25.53 | Hobinheim | that's nifty i bet |
| 17:25.54 | Coolniceronguy | Hello. |
| 17:26.03 | Hobinheim | Hello. |
| 17:26.11 | watchout | yes, though I'm not sure about the name |
| 17:26.25 | Coolniceronguy | I just started playing WoW a few days ago. |
| 17:27.07 | jrr | sweet. what class/race? |
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| 17:27.22 | Coolniceronguy | Undead, priest. |
| 17:27.24 | Hobinheim | Engineer/Goblin, would be an awesome answer |
| 17:27.28 | Coolniceronguy | PvE |
| 17:27.29 | Hobinheim | that's an awesome answer too |
| 17:27.54 | watchout | Hobinheim, not corruption because its too long casttime for the low dot it gives a destro lock |
| 17:27.58 | jrr | engineer/gob is a profession |
| 17:28.02 | jrr | that my hunter has =] |
| 17:28.27 | Coolniceronguy | I was wondering what some of the more popular/informative WoW forums are. |
| 17:28.31 | Hobinheim | no no. i mean. goblin |
| 17:28.46 | Hobinheim | watchout, not worth five more points? =P |
| 17:28.53 | watchout | no forum is informative - use only the wiki Coolniceronguy ;P |
| 17:29.02 | Hobinheim | in the forums i read... the wow forums are looked down upon |
| 17:29.03 | watchout | Hobinheim, not really |
| 17:29.06 | Hobinheim | understandably so |
| 17:29.19 | Hobinheim | my forums are moderated infinitely more harshly (grammar) than the wow forums |
| 17:29.27 | Hobinheim | i tend to take what i read at wow with a grain of salt |
| 17:29.30 | Hobinheim | mostly only blue posts |
| 17:29.31 | watchout | if you put more in affliction its really great though |
| 17:29.37 | Hobinheim | i pretty much don't read it now |
| 17:29.47 | Hobinheim | but before i had the forusm i did now, i did read the wow forums a lot. it hurts |
| 17:29.54 | jrr | what do you read now? |
| 17:29.58 | Hobinheim | something awful |
| 17:30.03 | jrr | =D |
| 17:30.10 | jrr | goon. |
| 17:30.13 | Hobinheim | truth |
| 17:30.19 | Hobinheim | i have an alt (zing) on goon squad |
| 17:30.25 | Hobinheim | at the might of my mind tank envy |
| 17:30.44 | Coolniceronguy | With the new update, and changes to ui/macro, much flammage will ensue is my guess. |
| 17:31.03 | watchout | Hm, I have to go now. See you |
| 17:31.25 | jrr | cya |
| 17:31.41 | Coolniceronguy | I come from over 4000 hours of experience in Guild Wars, and am considering going over to WoW. |
| 17:32.08 | Tepetkhet | heh |
| 17:32.24 | Tepetkhet | Well, I read wowwiki to look up information... |
| 17:32.34 | Tepetkhet | And I read allakhazam forums to just hang out with WoW people... |
| 17:32.36 | Hobinheim | do you have a specific question in mind |
| 17:33.00 | Tepetkhet | And I read the o-board forums for my specific realm. |
| 17:34.01 | Coolniceronguy | Basically, I am fairly new, so a point in the right direction as far as priests/undead goes would help. And just a general better command of the game. |
| 17:34.50 | Tepetkhet | The manual's good. |
| 17:34.59 | jrr | Coolniceronguy: there's one surefire way to make sure you never go back to GW |
| 17:35.03 | jrr | jump while you're running around |
| 17:35.20 | Coolniceronguy | Reduce enemies chance to hit? |
| 17:35.24 | Tepetkhet | Whee! |
| 17:35.31 | jrr | the other huge annnoyance i encounter when returning to GW are the invisible walls *everywhere* |
| 17:35.40 | Hobinheim | i'm curious as to why you chose undead priest |
| 17:35.55 | Hobinheim | short of looking at blood elves, they're the most popular/powerful horde priest class |
| 17:36.11 | Hobinheim | they have a nice, anti-fear undead-priest-only skill |
| 17:36.22 | Hobinheim | cannabalize whenever possible |
| 17:36.31 | Tepetkhet | And they look good in a dress. |
| 17:36.32 | Hobinheim | priests have two choices in life. healing, or shadow |
| 17:36.37 | Coolniceronguy | Wanted to have fun at first, going shadow, then later on, helping out the party. |
| 17:36.58 | Hobinheim | healing tends to make you dependent on others for dps |
| 17:37.06 | Hobinheim | not to say that a holy priest can't dish it out once in a while |
| 17:37.27 | Hobinheim | priest is getting a lot of heat in the bc, mostly because other classes are looking better and better |
| 17:37.30 | Hobinheim | why play a priest? |
| 17:37.44 | Hobinheim | other classes in contention with priests are shamans, paladins, and druids |
| 17:39.01 | Coolniceronguy | Looks like Blizzard is buffing some of the least used classes: shaman and druid, if what you say is correct. |
| 17:39.11 | Tepetkhet | yeah |
| 17:39.31 | Tepetkhet | Hybrids are getting tired of being looked down upon, I guess. |
| 17:40.06 | Coolniceronguy | Yeah, I was reading about the amount of grief Druids get, was considering that class. |
| 17:40.23 | Tepetkhet | As a rogue, I used to hate Druids. |
| 17:40.25 | Hobinheim | druids are pretty cool now. before you swung by, they got a major upgrade to their healing |
| 17:40.26 | Tepetkhet | Especially feral druids. |
| 17:40.34 | Hobinheim | oh and this new 2.0 stuff added some very druid-favorable mechanics |
| 17:40.40 | Tepetkhet | They were trying to do MY job and take MY gear. |
| 17:40.42 | Hobinheim | oh and a new super poewr for them too |
| 17:40.45 | Tepetkhet | And why won't you HEAL? |
| 17:40.48 | Hobinheim | not sure how familiar you are with the terminology |
| 17:41.00 | Hobinheim | inervate; stackable hots; and tree form |
| 17:41.16 | Tepetkhet | But now I am very happy with feral druids and want one in my group. |
| 17:41.23 | Tepetkhet | Improved Leader of the Pack. |
| 17:41.41 | Coolniceronguy | I recall seeing the treeform skill, looks like an uber skill, great party orientated ability. |
| 17:41.55 | Tepetkhet | tree druid in your tank party? |
| 17:41.59 | Hobinheim | yeah. it's like healing to the max |
| 17:42.13 | Hobinheim | druid style is "healing over time" and tree form makes that go bananas |
| 17:42.45 | Tepetkhet | That tree is bananas. B-A-N-A-N-A-S!. |
| 17:43.20 | Kirkburn | [Zeal], you around? |
| 17:43.34 | Hobinheim | the priest ultimate skills aren't too... super |
| 17:43.37 | Coolniceronguy | Heh, heh. Was reading about itemization for druids, and how it is sub-par, but I am not sure if I understand the term itemization fully. |
| 17:43.44 | Tepetkhet | um |
| 17:43.50 | Hobinheim | at leas tthat's the vibe i get |
| 17:43.52 | Tepetkhet | Druids usually carry around at least 3 sets of gear. |
| 17:44.00 | Hobinheim | itemization... how items are built |
| 17:44.00 | Tepetkhet | Tank gear, healing gear, DPS gear. |
| 17:44.06 | Tepetkhet | And for raiders, resist gear. |
| 17:44.07 | Hobinheim | each class has three styles of play |
| 17:44.12 | Tepetkhet | So that's 4 sets of gear and no bag space. |
| 17:44.15 | Hobinheim | usually the styles are so different you carry different gear with you |
| 17:44.25 | Hobinheim | also, the enviorn,ment can dictate what you carry with you |
| 17:44.32 | Hobinheim | fire gear, ice gear, nature gear |
| 17:44.35 | Tepetkhet | yeah |
| 17:44.36 | dotted | Treeform has one weakness: http://www.alfeldstein.com/img/forestfire.jpg |
| 17:44.42 | Tepetkhet | Fire Resist gear for Molten Core. |
| 17:44.44 | dotted | all i got to say |
| 17:44.44 | Hobinheim | since a druid can be so many things, they usually carry different sets of items |
| 17:44.51 | Tepetkhet | Only YOU can prevent Druid fires. |
| 17:44.54 | Hobinheim | they should totally have 300% fire dmg |
| 17:45.46 | Tepetkhet | I want to get a screenshot of a tree druid in MC with one of those fire effects on them. |
| 17:46.06 | Tepetkhet | We have at least one of each druid type in my guild... |
| 17:46.15 | Kirkburn | Not that I'm obsessed by this or anything ... strixus = host of the wcradio Lorekeepers show: http://www.wcradio.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=4170&st=0&p=45631&hl=wowwiki&#entry45631 |
| 17:47.30 | Hobinheim | i think you are |
| 17:47.36 | Kirkburn | hehe |
| 17:48.54 | Hobinheim | just say, then wowwiki is not for you |
| 17:49.00 | Hobinheim | put your money where your mouth is or shut it |
| 17:49.13 | Hobinheim | cuz it's not helping anybody if she's just complaining |
| 17:49.16 | Hobinheim | she clearly has the power to help |
| 17:49.17 | Kirkburn | Nah, I want to chat to her civilly about it |
| 17:49.20 | Hobinheim | and it's very low barrier of entry |
| 17:49.25 | Hobinheim | so it's not like we're stopping her |
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| 17:50.00 | Kirkburn | As I often say to myself, never be so sure of your own view so as to ignore any opposing view |
| 17:50.23 | Kirkburn | It makes me indecisive, but I find it a lot better than being viewed as an arrogant ass :) |
| 17:51.41 | Adys | How could an item that accepts suffixes (of the whale..) would be named? |
| 17:51.46 | Adys | I think Im gonna do a category for them |
| 17:52.00 | Adys | before we start doing them |
| 17:52.17 | Teomyr | random property items? |
| 17:52.27 | Adys | mmyeah |
| 17:54.22 | Kirkburn | Well I would say just keep the main part of the name, and have the suffixes stuff as part of the article |
| 17:54.22 | Adys | Yeah kirk its my plan |
| 17:54.22 | Kirkburn | :) |
| 17:54.22 | jrr | it's tricky |
| 17:54.22 | Adys | [[Tearfall Bracers]] |
| 17:54.23 | Adys | and also planning to do articles on suffixes |
| 17:54.23 | jrr | conversely, you could have an article [[of the whale]] with each item as part of the article |
| 17:54.37 | Adys | [[Of the Whale]] |
| 17:54.38 | Adys | exactly :P |
| 17:54.48 | Adys | each item in them, eventually yeah |
| 17:54.55 | jrr | is there any kind of include feature other than templates? |
| 17:55.01 | Adys | ofc |
| 17:55.03 | jrr | to have the same text occur in two different articles |
| 17:55.08 | Adys | Whatlinksthere is extremely useful for that |
| 17:56.15 | Hobinheim | my suggestion, make a cat Random Property Items |
| 17:56.23 | Hobinheim | then create an article at the basename |
| 17:56.42 | Hobinheim | then make another article explaining the concept of random property items |
| 17:57.39 | Adys | meh slowwiki.com |
| 17:58.26 | Hobinheim | suspicious that it's tuesday agian |
| 17:58.32 | Hobinheim | coincidence? |
| 17:58.48 | Kirkburn | If you make an 'of the whale' article and add items to it, it would be massive |
| 17:58.49 | Tepetkhet | I think not. |
| 17:58.52 | Tepetkhet | Dun dun duuuuuh |
| 17:59.50 | Kirkburn | Oh yeah, btw, it was mentioned we're getting new hardware |
| 18:00.26 | Adys | aye saw that |
| 18:00.33 | Hobinheim | where |
| 18:00.40 | Hobinheim | we as in warcraft or we as in wowwiki |
| 18:00.44 | Kirkburn | wowwiki |
| 18:00.46 | Adys | Rustak |
| 18:00.49 | Coolniceronguy | Thanks for the chat, guys. bbl |
| 18:00.51 | Hobinheim | i wonder when we'll get server access ... =( |
| 18:00.53 | Kirkburn | see ya |
| 18:00.57 | Adys | see ya |
| 18:17.38 | dotted | did the server die? |
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| 18:43.49 | Kirkburn|afk | It's patch day, the wiki always struggled |
| 18:43.51 | Kirkburn|afk | *s |
| 18:44.07 | Kirkburn|afk | Too many people looking for mirrors |
| 18:54.28 | dotted | ah ye forgot US have patch day on tuesdays :/ |
| 18:58.05 | dotted | damn amercans ruining it for us europeans =P |
| 18:58.09 | dotted | *americans |
| 19:06.54 | Kirkburn|afk | hehe |
| 19:08.59 | dotted | tommorow will be the other way around anyway :/ |
| 19:09.50 | Kirkburn|afk | :D |
| 19:09.59 | Kirkburn|afk | But the EU guys at least have their own language wikis :) |
| 19:10.16 | Kirkburn|afk | Well, er, sort of |
| 19:10.24 | Kirkburn|afk | The french and germans do :P |
| 19:10.46 | Kirkburn|afk | I want the wiki to use english english, but that's not going to happen :( |
| 19:11.15 | jrr | colour flavour |
| 19:11.18 | jrr | rubbish |
| 19:11.23 | Kirkburn|afk | Exactimondo! |
| 19:30.40 | Hobinheim | it's patch day? |
| 19:30.41 | Hobinheim | wtf ? |
| 19:34.20 | Kirkburn|afk | lol |
| 19:36.06 | Hobinheim | any geeks or mac fans out there? |
| 19:36.24 | Hobinheim | everyone in the world is having a simultaneous nerdgasm |
| 19:37.11 | jrr | http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/live-from-macworld-2007-steve-jobs-keynote |
| 19:37.24 | jrr | ya |
| 19:37.51 | jrr | i might get the second gen of those.. i'm contractually bound to this phone/service for another year |
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| 19:39.05 | Hobinheim | my philosophy is that i'll get a new phone when my current one dies |
| 19:39.22 | Hobinheim | you know the wiki shows a list of alt-itis symptoms... |
| 19:39.27 | Hobinheim | it's almost theraputic to read |
| 19:39.33 | Hobinheim | there really should be a support group |
| 19:39.39 | Hobinheim | or an article about steps to take |
| 19:39.46 | Hobinheim | after becoming afflicted with alt-itis |
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| 19:46.33 | Hobinheim | my launcher keeps crashing |
| 19:46.37 | Hobinheim | i think blizzard's xml thing sucks |
| 19:48.55 | jrr | i don't use that thing |
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| 19:56.07 | Hobinheim | one of the computers in my house is named ironforge =) |
| 19:57.13 | Tepetkhet | heh |
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| 19:59.08 | Patrigan-Syldra | WHY OH WHY IS THE WIKI DOWN!? |
| 19:59.21 | Patrigan-Syldra | and why on the moment that I'm having my spare studying time! |
| 20:03.11 | Tepetkhet | WoWwonky. |
| 20:03.25 | Patrigan-Syldra | Can anyone urgently fetch me the link to the new Kazzak Page |
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| 20:44.53 | Deathface | hi |
| 20:44.59 | Deathface | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:45.01 | Gryphen | heya |
| 20:45.01 | Deathface | im a hunter |
| 20:46.27 | Deathface | anyone know? |
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| 20:47.37 | Deathface | hi , you a hunter? |
| 20:47.53 | Deathface | once or twice? |
| 20:48.17 | Fin | hey, does someone here work with Diziet? |
| 20:48.35 | Fin | godammit, as *soon* as I join a channel I start with the mistells |
| 20:48.48 | Fin | twice |
| 20:48.53 | Fin | and no |
| 20:49.45 | Hobinheim | the 31 talent in beast mastery |
| 20:49.55 | Hobinheim | makes them glow red... |
| 20:50.04 | Hobinheim | the name escapes me |
| 20:50.08 | Hobinheim | bestial wrath |
| 20:50.43 | Deathface | thanks Hobinheim |
| 20:51.49 | Deathface | so when it says "While enraged, the beast does not feel pity or remorse or fear and it cannot be stopped unless killed." that means it cant be feared ? lol |
| 20:52.09 | jrr | the beast within is for the hunter himself |
| 20:52.21 | Deathface | ok, but bestial wrath |
| 20:52.31 | jrr | yeah, also known as go dmode |
| 20:52.36 | jrr | s/go dmode/god mode |
| 20:52.38 | Deathface | sounds fun |
| 20:52.55 | Deathface | i should start speccing into that |
| 20:52.55 | jrr | i love my new BM spec |
| 20:53.04 | Hobinheim | quesiton for you hunters |
| 20:53.09 | jrr | go for it |
| 20:53.13 | Hobinheim | how does it feel to not be able to switch pets as fast as warlocks |
| 20:53.15 | Hobinheim | i guess you just work with it |
| 20:53.23 | Deathface | you have a stable |
| 20:53.25 | Hobinheim | you have three pets or two pets? |
| 20:53.27 | equiraptor | Hunter pets aren't as different. |
| 20:53.34 | jrr | you can have three, but you hafta go to town to switch |
| 20:53.53 | Hobinheim | ok three cool, i read somewhere blizz was going to change how stabling worked. i dunno, something weird... |
| 20:54.04 | Hobinheim | i dunno i just see locks as having so many tactical options and hunter, to me, reads like |
| 20:54.11 | Hobinheim | pet = tank, unless in group, pet = offtank/dps |
| 20:54.26 | Deathface | jrr what kinda pets do you have and whats the best? |
| 20:54.28 | jrr | there's a couple items i'm looking forward to, like [portable stable] and [blackberry] (portable mail) |
| 20:54.31 | equiraptor | Yeah, pretty much. |
| 20:54.40 | equiraptor | Hunter pets aren't supposed to be as flexible as warlock pets. |
| 20:54.50 | jrr | i have a turtle, a cat, and a bird |
| 20:54.53 | equiraptor | I currently have a gorilla and a cat. |
| 20:55.10 | Deathface | i have a cat and a wind serpent |
| 20:55.14 | Deathface | but my cat is low lvl now |
| 20:55.18 | equiraptor | I love cats, but everyone else loves the gorilla. And it eats the mushrooms I got farming AD rep. So I brought the gorilla to raids. |
| 20:55.19 | jrr | i pretty much only use the bird because it's 59, the other are mid 40's and it sucks to level them |
| 20:55.24 | Hobinheim | oo oo |
| 20:55.28 | Hobinheim | what's an UNPOPULAR pet |
| 20:55.29 | Hobinheim | i want THAT one |
| 20:55.49 | jrr | i have broken tooth, the super-rare cat |
| 20:55.51 | equiraptor | I think crabs are fairly rare. |
| 20:55.57 | equiraptor | s/rare/unpopular/ |
| 20:56.30 | Hobinheim | crabs dont' even have a family skill |
| 20:56.41 | Hobinheim | did they release more pet skills or are those datamined? |
| 20:56.50 | Hobinheim | like scorpids have a static stealth |
| 20:56.54 | Hobinheim | like Dig Pit or something |
| 20:56.58 | jrr | the new vendor bullets/projectiles are awesome |
| 20:57.01 | Hobinheim | static == immobile |
| 20:57.09 | jrr | er arrows |
| 20:57.30 | equiraptor | http://petopia.brashendeavors.net/ and http://goodintentionsguild.info should be able to tell you everything you want to know about hunter pets. :) |
| 20:57.45 | Hobinheim | there's like an ASSLOAD of new skills for hunter pets, but i think they're not public yet |
| 20:57.56 | Hobinheim | it's like they went through every species and activated one or two more skills |
| 20:58.22 | Hobinheim | i read over petopia just now and i don't see the new skills |
| 20:59.08 | Hobinheim | http://www.wowinsider.com/2006/10/06/rumored-hunter-pet-abilities/ |
| 20:59.51 | equiraptor | Then they're probably datamined, rather than "known". Not everything datamined makes it in. |
| 21:01.43 | Hobinheim | equiraptor, huh... like a raptor?I |
| 21:01.56 | equiraptor | Hrm? |
| 21:02.20 | Hobinheim | did yo uname yourself after a raptor? |
| 21:02.25 | Hobinheim | and does IRC support bolding words... |
| 21:02.57 | jrr | my client bolds stuff surrounded by *asterisks* |
| 21:03.06 | equiraptor | No, I didn't. |
| 21:03.14 | Hobinheim | how did i type out the word raptor |
| 21:03.19 | equiraptor | I named myself after a genetically engineered creature from a Star Trek book. |
| 21:03.22 | Hobinheim | was there anything special about it? |
| 21:03.29 | Hobinheim | cuz on my client i bolded it |
| 21:03.36 | equiraptor | It's a combination of horse and eagle genes that was a flying horse. |
| 21:03.42 | Hobinheim | like this whole sentence is bolded, what do you see? |
| 21:03.51 | equiraptor | Same as all your other text. No change. |
| 21:03.57 | Hobinheim | =( |
| 21:04.01 | jrr | lo siento |
| 21:04.07 | jrr | http://www.xkcd.com/comics/velociraptors.jpg |
| 21:04.11 | jrr | http://www.xkcd.com/comics/substitute.png |
| 21:04.21 | dotted | bold underline |
| 21:04.30 | dotted | works fine here |
| 21:04.42 | jrr | if you wanna use html i'll <i>pretend</i> it renders |
| 21:05.22 | equiraptor | I love made-up tags. ;) |
| 21:05.33 | jrr | like |
| 21:05.41 | equiraptor | <whiny kid> But I wanna go play outside!</whiny kid> |
| 21:05.53 | jrr | =D |
| 21:06.05 | equiraptor | When someone actually has a sense of humor (unlike me), they can be quite funny. |
| 21:07.21 | Fin | "when someone has a sense of humour .. they can be funny" - obviously! ## :P |
| 21:08.27 | equiraptor | Learn to follow the "they" properly. :-P |
| 21:08.35 | Fin | I'd quite like to compare (in real life) the quality difference between your 22" flat screen and my CRT 22" NEC Multisync Diamondtron FE2111SB |
| 21:08.38 | Fin | gah! |
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| 21:09.02 | equiraptor | Stoned server. Heh. |
| 21:09.10 | Fin | I just can't handle multiple channels of information, my brain's too small |
| 21:09.28 | equiraptor | I've been getting lost in my own multitasking recently. |
| 21:09.39 | equiraptor | I used to be able to multitask well enough to bring down a Windows 2000 machine. |
| 21:10.08 | equiraptor | I even hardlocked a linux machine (without trying) once! |
| 21:10.50 | Hobinheim | i like that comic, thx |
| 21:11.40 | jrr | xkcd? |
| 21:11.43 | jrr | there's some really awesome ones |
| 21:11.47 | jrr | and a few more raptor-themed ones |
| 21:12.27 | jrr | http://www.xkcd.com/comics/search_history.png |
| 21:15.31 | Tepetkhet | equiraptor originally directed me to that comic... |
| 21:15.54 | equiraptor | And I was directed by other geek friends. :) |
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| 21:22.05 | jrr | what's the net suffix for? |
| 21:24.55 | Fin | networks |
| 21:25.15 | Fin | predictable! |
| 21:25.18 | Fin | :P |
| 21:25.20 | Hobinheim | BRRAAAINNNSS |
| 21:25.32 | Hobinheim | zomg that will be |
| 21:25.42 | Hobinheim | my new battle cry if i ever roll undead again |
| 21:26.59 | Fin | I think... I think someone might've thought of that one already... not that it's not good of course |
| 21:29.14 | Hobinheim | brains... |
| 21:29.25 | Fin | brain, Hob |
| 21:29.36 | Hobinheim | anyone watch naruto? |
| 21:29.44 | Hobinheim | or play final fantasy tactics? |
| 21:29.56 | Hobinheim | i wanted to make really obnoxious pre and post spell casting quotes |
| 21:31.22 | Hobinheim | the ones in tactics are hilarious cuz they're badly translated |
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| 21:31.23 | Tepetkhet | Yes... |
| 21:31.23 | Hobinheim | a or b? yes... |
| 21:31.23 | Tepetkhet | Watched Naruto. |
| 21:31.23 | Hobinheim | zomg when will they make more new episodes... |
| 21:31.56 | Tepetkhet | I'm not very far into it. |
| 21:31.59 | Tepetkhet | I watch too much WoW> |
| 21:32.05 | Tepetkhet | er, play |
| 21:32.06 | Tepetkhet | heh |
| 21:35.46 | Hobinheim | do you watch behind the moonwell |
| 21:35.49 | Hobinheim | where no one can see you |
| 21:36.36 | Coolniceronguy | So... what do you guys think of the latest patch 2.0.3, looks like a lot of buffs for druids |
| 21:38.07 | dotted | still mad on blizz for putting Imp SnD rogue talent in the tier 2 combat tree :( |
| 21:39.04 | dotted | sweet change for dagger rogues, but not for pve hemo rogue :( |
| 21:54.10 | Hobinheim | why am i having the worst time finding notes for 2.0.3 |
| 21:54.35 | Hobinheim | "Only a large and well-coordinated group of adventurers might stand a chance of defeating him." |
| 21:54.36 | Hobinheim | LOL what |
| 21:54.48 | Hobinheim | translated "so you will form a raid and dance likt eh puppets you are" |
| 21:55.23 | Gryphen | patch notes? |
| 21:55.29 | Gryphen | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/patch2p01.html |
| 21:57.04 | Kirkburn|afk | Hobinheim, WoWInsider is always good for this stuff |
| 21:59.18 | Hobinheim | i never read wow insider |
| 21:59.35 | Gryphen | i find the site hard to look at |
| 21:59.52 | Kirkburn|afk | Whaddya think? http://www.georgepribul.eu/ :) |
| 22:00.00 | Kirkburn|afk | Yeah, I browse it via the IE7 RSS feed |
| 22:00.46 | Hobinheim | lol every warlock on the forums predicted that the black book would get nerfed |
| 22:00.47 | Hobinheim | and rightly so |
| 22:01.06 | Hobinheim | your name is a little too blurry |
| 22:01.12 | Hobinheim | the rest of the site is too sharp |
| 22:01.16 | Hobinheim | so either sharpen that up |
| 22:01.19 | Hobinheim | or work with the blurr |
| 22:05.57 | Coolniceronguy | One thing I liked about Guild Wars was the built in ability to modify the interface. |
| 22:06.35 | Coolniceronguy | Would I be correct in saying that getting a mod such as the CTMod would be a good thing? |
| 22:07.41 | Hobinheim | since when can you craft random items? |
| 22:07.52 | Hobinheim | there are so many mods in wow it's dizzying |
| 22:07.56 | Hobinheim | everyone has their own play style |
| 22:07.59 | Hobinheim | some like it all out crazy |
| 22:08.03 | Hobinheim | i like mine minimalist |
| 22:08.05 | Hobinheim | and ninja |
| 22:08.12 | Hobinheim | cuz i like the cinematics in the game |
| 22:08.19 | Coolniceronguy | Yeah, I quickly caught on to that fact. |
| 22:08.44 | Hobinheim | and me personally i can't reco any raiding mods becaus ei haven't done any end game |
| 22:08.50 | Coolniceronguy | I have never seen a mod for GW, but for WoW, the options are dizzying. |
| 22:09.12 | Teomyr | "Mazk Snipeshot in Booty Bay now sells bullets." what an interesting thing to put as the second note in the patch notes |
| 22:10.40 | Hobinheim | LOL yay felguard sound fixes |
| 22:10.58 | Teomyr | wtf? "The "Cloak of Shadows" cooldown has been reduced to 1 min, from 2 min. Now a trainable ability at level 66." |
| 22:10.58 | Hobinheim | what i suggest you do is find a UI forum |
| 22:11.07 | Teomyr | talk about being buffed |
| 22:11.09 | Hobinheim | and play a stock version of wow until you're like GODDAMMIT WHY IS THIS THING SO FRUSTRATING |
| 22:11.16 | Hobinheim | that frustrating thing is usually solved by a mod |
| 22:11.21 | Hobinheim | i.e. don't go mod crazy |
| 22:11.28 | Hobinheim | cuz it gets hairy sometimes |
| 22:11.40 | Hobinheim | oh and if you hear the word Ace, recognize that as a mark of quality |
| 22:11.46 | Hobinheim | having an "Ace'd mod" is a good thing |
| 22:11.58 | Gryphen | there can be bad mods in any framework |
| 22:11.58 | Hobinheim | development for mods is very sketchy and ace is like... a developer movement for better code |
| 22:12.10 | Hobinheim | yeah it's a rule of thumb |
| 22:12.18 | Hobinheim | i'm sure someone could code up a shitty ace mod |
| 22:13.09 | Coolniceronguy | Actually, Hob, I was frustrated by the interface as soon as I started playing. |
| 22:13.30 | Coolniceronguy | I have been spoiled by GW. |
| 22:13.40 | Gryphen | heh |
| 22:13.56 | Hobinheim | in a few words, what is it that you're looking for |
| 22:14.01 | Hobinheim | can't say i'm famiilar with guild wars |
| 22:14.12 | Hobinheim | maybe there's a mod author out there who GW-izes the interface |
| 22:14.45 | Coolniceronguy | For one seeing all enemy/friendly names and health bars. |
| 22:14.52 | Hobinheim | press v |
| 22:14.56 | Hobinheim | it hides all that |
| 22:15.19 | Hobinheim | or did you mean like the actual UI bars |
| 22:15.26 | Coolniceronguy | Used to be able to hold left ctrl and alt in GW, missing alot of things in Wow. |
| 22:15.28 | Hobinheim | like the ones that move or the ones that don't move |
| 22:15.58 | Coolniceronguy | To help seeing and targeting something. |
| 22:16.26 | Hobinheim | yeah you can absolutely turn that on and off |
| 22:16.33 | Hobinheim | look at V, shift V and CTRL v |
| 22:16.51 | Coolniceronguy | Oh mk, brainfart on my part, I guess :P |
| 22:17.19 | Coolniceronguy | I am still a newb at WoW. |
| 22:17.41 | Hobinheim | that's ok |
| 22:20.25 | Kirkburn | Hobinheim, I've sharpened it up a bit |
| 22:20.41 | Kirkburn | If you're not using some form of cleartype though, that's your problem ^^ |
| 22:21.54 | Hobinheim | better i guess |
| 22:21.56 | Hobinheim | are you using photoshop |
| 22:22.02 | Kirkburn | Fireworks |
| 22:22.08 | Hobinheim | boo |
| 22:22.14 | Kirkburn | ? |
| 22:22.18 | Hobinheim | you know microsoft actually did do one thing right |
| 22:22.25 | Kirkburn | Yes? |
| 22:22.26 | Hobinheim | they're font rendering engine is better than photoshop's |
| 22:22.31 | Hobinheim | *their |
| 22:22.40 | Kirkburn | Fireworks, that's _Adobe_ Fireworks |
| 22:22.54 | Hobinheim | it's an algorithm that helps render stronger verticals and horizontals on monitors |
| 22:23.03 | Hobinheim | microsoft calls it cleartype |
| 22:23.11 | Kirkburn | Oh right, you were talking about that :P |
| 22:23.16 | Kirkburn | Yeah, it's very good |
| 22:23.18 | Teomyr | very clean html! |
| 22:23.20 | Kirkburn | Even better in Vista |
| 22:23.25 | Kirkburn | Teomyr, thanks =) |
| 22:24.02 | Kirkburn | I aim to do my websites using the absolute minimum of html crap :P I need to redo ClearFont.co.uk next |
| 22:24.31 | Hobinheim | how did you even make the mod |
| 22:24.36 | Hobinheim | i die inside every time i try to do something |
| 22:24.40 | Kirkburn | Originally? |
| 22:24.47 | Kirkburn | I copied Fontabulous |
| 22:24.56 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 22:25.06 | Hobinheim | is ace svn like... free? |
| 22:25.10 | Kirkburn | Yup |
| 22:25.17 | Hobinheim | like is it worth putting all my half baked ideas on ace |
| 22:25.17 | Teomyr | free as in what? |
| 22:25.27 | Hobinheim | free as in beer |
| 22:25.34 | Teomyr | yes |
| 22:25.48 | Kirkburn | Hobinheim, yes, it's open to anyone, as long as the addon is quality - and generally as long as it uses Ace |
| 22:26.05 | Kirkburn | Originally FonTabulous and ClearFont were just a modified copy of the WoW fonts.xml file. Majorly changed since then though |
| 22:26.24 | Hobinheim | i'm still looking for a HOW TO USE ACE article... |
| 22:26.38 | Kirkburn | And you've looked on the Ace wiki? |
| 22:26.38 | Hobinheim | it took me like two weekends to figure out how to make a font string... |
| 22:26.44 | Teomyr | oO |
| 22:26.58 | Hobinheim | briefly |
| 22:27.20 | Kirkburn | Here's how I learnt to use Ace ... someone else did it, and I worked backwards from that :P |
| 22:27.54 | Teomyr | i started ace development when i was playing my hunter |
| 22:28.10 | Teomyr | i was disappointed that KTM didn't calculate my pet's threat, making it useless for solo use |
| 22:28.35 | Hobinheim | i find that no one really writes good, solid hand holding articles for all levels of development |
| 22:28.38 | Teomyr | i coded a threat meter for hunters/warlocks and their pets, to see how much damage they can deal |
| 22:28.40 | Hobinheim | the only choice left is to copy |
| 22:28.49 | Teomyr | and guess what feature KTM implemented next? |
| 22:28.53 | Hobinheim | pets. |
| 22:29.18 | Hobinheim | my ideas already sort of exist =( |
| 22:29.25 | Hobinheim | i just want to do mine better, hehe |
| 22:29.43 | Hobinheim | like how hard is it to make an ace stub |
| 22:29.45 | Teomyr | now i need to think of how to update my addon and at the same time make it more attractive for solo use than KTM |
| 22:30.09 | Hobinheim | well, you could concentrate on making it really svelt/ninja |
| 22:30.12 | Hobinheim | for hunters that don't raid |
| 22:30.19 | Hobinheim | or don't care much for other people's threat |
| 22:30.30 | Kirkburn | lol, no-one noticed the large broken images at the bottom of my website? *sigh* =) |
| 22:30.38 | Teomyr | yes, but i can't think of how to display it, other than the current layout :P |
| 22:30.49 | Hobinheim | if you use firefox, i believe broken images don't stand out as much |
| 22:30.56 | Gryphen | i did, but thought it was in-dev still |
| 22:31.43 | Hobinheim | so... my mods... a warlock stone management thing. an encyclopedia thing (more for our use really, like all the other data-mining mods), and a suggestion thing (which is an overrated font string |
| 22:31.53 | Hobinheim | if i could code those, i'd be happy |
| 22:32.02 | Hobinheim | if i could ace those, i'd be even more happy |
| 22:32.14 | Hobinheim | if i got people downloading and using them, i'd nerdgasm everywhere |
| 22:32.40 | Teomyr | surprise, surprise! wowinterface is lagging on patch day! |
| 22:32.47 | Kirkburn | Gryphen, you get Observation Cookies! :) |
| 22:33.55 | Gryphen | mmm, taste like chicken |
| 22:34.25 | Fin | Kirkburn: you have a website? |
| 22:34.36 | Gryphen | just 1 |
| 22:35.03 | Kirkburn | I have many ^^ |
| 22:35.16 | Gryphen | your no fun! |
| 22:35.19 | Kirkburn | It's pretty easy to find :P |
| 22:35.30 | Kirkburn | Hey, I gave you cookies! |
| 22:35.39 | Teomyr | mine is sooo great! |
| 22:35.43 | Kirkburn | My no fun what? ;) |
| 22:35.43 | Teomyr | http://www.simonveith.de |
| 22:35.50 | Teomyr | go look! :D |
| 22:35.56 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 22:36.03 | Teomyr | amazing, isn't it? |
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| 22:36.20 | Kirkburn | Look at all the stuff between those <body></body> tags! |
| 22:36.25 | Kirkburn | Oh, no, wait ... |
| 22:36.26 | Fin | gosh, this Internet thing is fun! |
| 22:36.29 | Teomyr | yeah |
| 22:37.21 | Kirkburn | Hrm, Kirkburn.eu is still only number 5 on google :( |
| 22:37.30 | Kirkburn | I must find more places to link it! ;) |
| 22:37.35 | Gryphen | cause its not .com! |
| 22:37.37 | Gryphen | roflerz |
| 22:37.59 | Kirkburn | Only kirkburn.eu, kirkburn.org.uk are mine :/ |
| 22:38.10 | Kirkburn | I have georgepribul.eu, georgepribul.co.uk, georgepribul.com, georgepribul.org.uk though :D |
| 22:38.30 | Teomyr | yay :D |
| 22:38.56 | Kirkburn | Given that I'm the only (known) George Pribul in the world, it wasn't hard to get |
| 22:40.38 | Kirkburn | I do love the little icons next to links to show what they do, so damn useful |
| 22:40.38 | Teomyr | alright, i'm off for today... school tomorrow :< |
| 22:40.45 | Kirkburn | Need to add them more |
| 22:40.49 | Kirkburn | Teomyr, goodnight! |
| 22:41.09 | Kirkburn | Don't sleep too much in lessons :P |
| 22:41.11 | Hobinheim | kirk what are you studying in uni |
| 22:41.17 | Teomyr | hehe |
| 22:41.26 | Kirkburn | Hobinheim ... |
| 22:41.35 | Kirkburn | What's the first sentence on my website? |
| 22:41.48 | Hobinheim | man do i look literate to you |
| 22:41.49 | Gryphen | "I like school boys." |
| 22:41.51 | Kirkburn | hehe |
| 22:41.53 | Teomyr | haha |
| 22:41.54 | Hobinheim | LOL |
| 22:41.56 | Hobinheim | exactly see |
| 22:42.04 | Hobinheim | civil is week, dude |
| 22:42.06 | Kirkburn | Gryphen gets a Stalker Cookie! |
| 22:42.22 | Gryphen | Oh that other website of yours... |
| 22:42.25 | Hobinheim | there's this weird gap after the word clearfont |
| 22:42.29 | Kirkburn | Nah, it's at least month! |
| 22:42.29 | Hobinheim | missing ext link gif? |
| 22:42.37 | Kirkburn | Try ctrl+f5 |
| 22:42.53 | Hobinheim | nope |
| 22:42.58 | Kirkburn | Or shift+f5 or get a new PC |
| 22:43.02 | Gryphen | ok here |
| 22:43.27 | Teomyr | well, good night now :D |
| 22:43.30 | Kirkburn | byee |
| 22:43.40 | Kirkburn | Gryphen, I told you not to tell anyone about that site! |
| 22:43.45 | Gryphen | :) |
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| 22:49.14 | OpenFaceSurgery | Hi folks. WoW is b0rked. |
| 22:50.24 | Hobinheim | ? |
| 22:51.09 | OpenFaceSurgery | New patch broke the graphics so hard that my graphics drivers went "ack!" and crashed windows 3 times. |
| 22:51.26 | OpenFaceSurgery | My sap icon was broken for a while. |
| 22:51.40 | OpenFaceSurgery | I like the talent changes, though, the new Improved Sap rules. So does Shadowstep. |
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| 22:58.42 | Kirkburn | it's amazing what merely changing from a table to a div does for your code |
| 22:58.56 | Kirkburn | I just condensed 10 lines of code to just 1 |
| 22:59.39 | Hobinheim | yeah... divs are the truth |
| 22:59.40 | Hobinheim | but sometimes there's just this one technique.... that you need tables for. rough |
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| 23:15.29 | Zeal | wiki down? :S |
| 23:18.14 | Hobinheim | i dunno but i'm fucked at wokr |
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| 23:26.17 | Kirkburn | Such a violent man |
| 23:26.26 | Kirkburn | Patch day madness |
| 23:26.59 | Kirkburn | I s'pose .... vlad_ the wiki is not responding! |
| 23:27.34 | Zeal | omg at the dick |
| 23:27.45 | Zeal | iwas illiterate long before i touched my first game. |
| 23:27.49 | Zeal | rofl |
| 23:28.12 | Zeal | and games are far more stimulating and educational than reading or watching tv. |
| 23:28.56 | Kirkburn | Zeal, ? |
| 23:29.03 | Kirkburn | Oh that |
| 23:29.06 | Zeal | that link you sent :p |
| 23:29.08 | Kirkburn | Boris Johnson ftw :P |
| 23:29.47 | Zeal | hes actually made no connection to illiteracy and games, he's just assuming the increase in illiteracy is because of games |
| 23:29.51 | OpenFaceSurgery | Wait, patch day madness? |
| 23:29.56 | OpenFaceSurgery | What other sort of madness is there? |
| 23:30.04 | OpenFaceSurgery | It's still b0rked, I'm not going on. |
| 23:30.33 | Zeal | i put it down to the failings of the education system and the crappy low paid foreign teachers. |
| 23:31.04 | Zeal | plus the fact more people realize english sucks as a language. |
| 23:31.44 | OpenFaceSurgery | Well, people need to stop butchering it with shit like 'n e 1 wan 2 hlp me plz' and 'sry' |
| 23:32.20 | Zeal | indeed |
| 23:32.43 | OpenFaceSurgery | What bothers me more is "srry" because HOW HARD IS IT TO TYPE AN O?! |
| 23:32.48 | Zeal | i only accept such language in a fast paced atomospher, FPS's and txt messaging basically. |
| 23:33.05 | Zeal | *atmosphere w/e |
| 23:33.15 | Hobinheim | at least you're not french |
| 23:33.24 | OpenFaceSurgery | Text-messaging is acceptable because there is usually a limit on how long you can make the message. |
| 23:33.47 | Zeal | yuup |
| 23:34.08 | OpenFaceSurgery | I thought of an idea. |
| 23:34.19 | OpenFaceSurgery | A great guild name (especially for Horde) would be "There Is Only Zuul" |
| 23:34.50 | Zeal | don't get it :S |
| 23:35.05 | OpenFaceSurgery | Have you not seen Ghostbusters? |
| 23:35.49 | Zeal | oh, it's not a live patch then? its jsut bg |
| 23:36.17 | OpenFaceSurgery | The patch broke the graphics real hard. |
| 23:37.39 | Zeal | i have seen ghostbusters yes |
| 23:37.56 | Zeal | and considering it's not live, how can it break the graphics? :S |
| 23:39.31 | Zeal | oh fucking lame |
| 23:39.41 | OpenFaceSurgery | Did you just see what I meant? |
| 23:39.48 | Zeal | i want me CE signed, but that's not happening.. |
| 23:39.55 | Zeal | *my |
| 23:40.31 | Zeal | and where the fuck has the language drop down gone to.. |
| 23:42.47 | Zeal | oh so it is live in america |
| 23:42.50 | Zeal | but not eu |
| 23:42.54 | Zeal | retarded |
| 23:43.27 | Zeal | "The Auction House now sorts by buyout price first, then by current price. This should filter all of the items with outlandish buyout prices to the bottom of the list." wtf.. noooo |
| 23:43.58 | Gryphen | its usually live in US first.. |
| 23:44.02 | OpenFaceSurgery | Oh I don't care about that |
| 23:44.08 | OpenFaceSurgery | I care that it's crashing my fucking computer |
| 23:44.19 | Gryphen | worked ok for me |
| 23:44.22 | Zeal | "Pets will no longer attack targets that are under the influence of crowd control (sheep, banish, etc.)." i hope that is overridden and just mean the pet AI.. |
| 23:44.52 | Zeal | "The title "Scarab Lord" can now be chosen in game for select players." huh? |
| 23:44.54 | OpenFaceSurgery | I think it means pets won't automatically attack a CC'ed target |
| 23:45.03 | OpenFaceSurgery | Scarab Lord, huh? That's awesome. |
| 23:46.45 | Hobinheim | why did you fireball your cat |
| 23:46.45 | Zeal | possibly a title for defeating naxx? :S |
| 23:46.52 | Hobinheim | i bet it wasn't even properly geared =( |
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| 23:50.08 | Hobinheim | shouldn't demonology warlocks be getting metamorphosis in the next expansion |
| 23:50.25 | Zeal | "Players will now be able to pull out a pet window to see all the pets in the raid." finally.. |
| 23:51.23 | Hobinheim | all the pets in one window? |
| 23:51.42 | OpenFaceSurgery | I heard that you can't have a full 40-ma |
| 23:51.42 | OpenFaceSurgery | Er. |
| 23:51.42 | OpenFaceSurgery | Kazzak is gone, eh? |
| 23:51.58 | OpenFaceSurgery | He left one of his lieutenants behind or something. |
| 23:55.47 | Zeal | kruul |
| 23:55.54 | OpenFaceSurgery | Yeah, him. |
| 23:55.59 | Zeal | i'd imagine kruul's death = end of event. |
| 23:56.19 | Zeal | and that would be stupid if 40-mans weren't possible, they are still needed. |
| 23:57.15 | OpenFaceSurgery | I'll tell ya something, though, nobody is going to be doing anything until the damn graphics bugs are fixed. |
| 23:57.39 | OpenFaceSurgery | Check the Technical Support forum if you don't believe me. Then check Realm Status, the server populations are at an unusual low because nobody wants to deal with it. |
| 23:59.50 | Zeal | wel i'm downloading the patch at about 9KB/s and with onyl a few seeds |
| 23:59.56 | Zeal | so, meh |
