| 00:00.05 | Zeal | and i have no idea what that means btw baggins, but because nothing could be evolution by the terminology you're using (which i assume is the one within antropology, which furthers my distaste for such things), i personally apply it to all forms, otherwise the word may as well not exist. |
| 00:00.13 | Bagginsww | If I ever see a discussion of evolution in wowwiki topic I'll scream... |
| 00:00.25 | Zeal | lol |
| 00:00.39 | Bagginsww | the word really didn't exist until 18th century LOL |
| 00:00.52 | Bagginsww | erm 19th |
| 00:01.12 | Zeal | well yeah, the world is disorganised as wiki >_> rofl |
| 00:01.31 | Zeal | mainly why i hate it |
| 00:01.34 | Hobinheim | evolution? |
| 00:01.37 | Hobinheim | like in warcraft? |
| 00:01.57 | Bagginsww | trying to apply real world definition of evolution towarcraft ya... there is no reaosn for it in topics |
| 00:02.04 | Zeal | i like my little corner of reality where things are ordered, have purpose, have meaning. :p |
| 00:02.26 | Zeal | well i had to touch on it before, it's in my lore theories |
| 00:02.50 | Zeal | Blizzard used evolution to describe what happened to the Qiraji in Silithus. |
| 00:03.36 | Bagginsww | they never really went into the systme though |
| 00:03.44 | Zeal | indeed |
| 00:03.58 | Bagginsww | system could be lermarkism or true evolution |
| 00:04.01 | Bagginsww | but it doesn't matter |
| 00:04.11 | Bagginsww | we don't need to know the biology of it heh heh |
| 00:04.15 | Zeal | well it mattered to my theory :p |
| 00:04.27 | Bagginsww | btw as far as I know biology has only been mentioned once |
| 00:04.33 | Bagginsww | as a term |
| 00:04.56 | Zeal | oh? |
| 00:04.57 | Bagginsww | from a story in S&L |
| 00:05.00 | Bagginsww | I quote |
| 00:05.35 | Bagginsww | "Now he demonstrated his considerable knowledge of biology as he dissected the dragon's heart, and his alchemical skill as he added selected portions to a vile..." |
| 00:05.43 | Bagginsww | yes trivia ;) |
| 00:06.08 | Bagginsww | as far as I know that term has not shown up anywhere else unless its shown up in a recent book. |
| 00:06.23 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Kirkburn :) |
| 00:06.30 | Zeal | and what is the importance of that btw? :P |
| 00:06.35 | Bagginsww | trivia |
| 00:06.47 | Bagginsww | just that the warcraft doesn't really go into sciencies much |
| 00:06.53 | Bagginsww | *sciences |
| 00:07.18 | Bagginsww | Usually don't give you the processes of how something happened |
| 00:07.29 | Zeal | i noticed though, that Velen is described as being a silver/white skinned Draenei, bot Blue as he is in-game : / |
| 00:07.29 | Hobinheim | Kirkburn|afk lol |
| 00:07.35 | Zeal | *not |
| 00:07.37 | Bagginsww | or scientific knowledge by people in the wolr.d |
| 00:07.48 | Bagginsww | Yep |
| 00:07.57 | Bagginsww | the games and other sources don't always match up |
| 00:08.04 | Bagginsww | differnet authors different views |
| 00:08.12 | Bagginsww | I'm sure a retcon will be made to explain that though |
| 00:08.15 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 00:08.17 | Zeal | well, it seems a ridiciously silly mistake to make tbh :/ |
| 00:08.19 | Hobinheim | hobinbot reporting in at 4.97% |
| 00:08.29 | Bagginsww | and btw in game Drek'thar is blind |
| 00:08.43 | Zeal | i i think you give to much credit to authors on the details tbh :P |
| 00:09.01 | Bagginsww | you should see the places in game that don't always match up |
| 00:09.04 | Zeal | RPG books it sounds about right though. |
| 00:09.05 | Bagginsww | our job is to remain neutral |
| 00:09.23 | Bagginsww | issues exist we live with them |
| 00:09.30 | Bagginsww | we don't start undermining hte source |
| 00:09.33 | Kirkburn | http://www.knitemare.org/cats ftw |
| 00:09.35 | Zeal | i don't i resolve them |
| 00:09.36 | Zeal | lol |
| 00:09.49 | Bagginsww | oh if only we could resolve things |
| 00:09.59 | Bagginsww | but of course resolutions on our part is only speculation |
| 00:10.09 | Zeal | i only need to resolve it for myself though |
| 00:10.13 | Bagginsww | and go to far its fanfiction |
| 00:10.25 | Bagginsww | well that's fine I just mean in wikipedia |
| 00:10.36 | Bagginsww | we have to avoid assumptions too much |
| 00:10.41 | Zeal | indeed |
| 00:11.00 | Bagginsww | make quotes comment that something doesn't seem to match up exactly |
| 00:11.08 | Zeal | if theres a whole and potential, i leave it empty or explain some theories of what goes in that hole. |
| 00:11.12 | Bagginsww | but don't try to undermine the pedigree of hte source |
| 00:11.25 | Bagginsww | ya that's why we have speculation sections |
| 00:11.28 | Bagginsww | with the speculation tmeplate |
| 00:11.37 | Zeal | indeed |
| 00:11.45 | Zeal | except i dislike the template :P |
| 00:11.57 | Bagginsww | it is kinda ugly but hey it makes sense |
| 00:13.29 | Bagginsww | btw were there any other draenei/eredar words we should know about in the book? |
| 00:14.20 | Zeal | theres also the citation thing that always seemed backwards to me. think i said it before in here. You either start citing everything directly with quotes and get in trouble with copyrights, or you sum it up for people and get labbled as being unreliable by the ignorant. the middle ground, which we seem to take, is no better really. |
| 00:14.38 | Zeal | hm.. not that i recall so far |
| 00:14.44 | Zeal | just some incantations |
| 00:15.03 | Bagginsww | incanations and rough translations? |
| 00:16.04 | Bagginsww | for example check out darnassian |
| 00:16.25 | Zeal | draenei language in wow != draenei language in RotH though i can tell you. WoW's sounds horrible, sharp sounding words, gutteral etc. Where as in RotH is compared to soft flowing and melodic.. |
| 00:16.27 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Darnassian |
| 00:16.44 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 00:16.47 | Zeal | *it is compared |
| 00:16.59 | Zeal | *flowing water |
| 00:17.23 | Zeal | and nope, no translations as yet : / |
| 00:17.23 | Bagginsww | I don't know Draenor is kinda rough |
| 00:17.34 | Bagginsww | Eredar is kind of rough too |
| 00:17.48 | Zeal | well i'm wondering if they were still speaking Eredun back then. |
| 00:18.01 | Bagginsww | all I know demonic eredun is different |
| 00:18.06 | Bagginsww | it'll make you go mad |
| 00:18.07 | Zeal | indeed |
| 00:18.43 | Bagginsww | I'm pretty sure original eredun wouldn't |
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| 00:19.31 | Zeal | well i'm gunna make the unofficial timeline live if there is no objects |
| 00:19.51 | Bagginsww | I have no objection |
| 00:20.10 | Bagginsww | it points out that its unofficial, and only our speculation |
| 00:20.19 | Bagginsww | that's all it really needs |
| 00:20.47 | Bagginsww | however you risk the possibiility of being hit with the deleting valid "lore" stick |
| 00:20.52 | Bagginsww | if you aren't careful |
| 00:20.57 | Bagginsww | so leave a message in the talk page |
| 00:21.03 | Bagginsww | on why you changed the entire article |
| 00:22.01 | Zeal | gah.. |
| 00:22.05 | Bagginsww | so you are on the safe side |
| 00:22.35 | Bagginsww | You don't want something like happened when you redirected that one page happening agian :p |
| 00:27.29 | Bagginsww | well gnight all |
| 00:31.25 | Zeal | done and done |
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| 00:56.53 | Nailbeer | anyone talking? |
| 01:05.23 | Zeal | not atm ,heh |
| 01:05.26 | Zeal | wahts up? |
| 01:05.44 | Nailbeer | i cant think of a name for my shammy :( |
| 01:08.21 | Nailbeer | queso? |
| 01:09.21 | Zeal | no idea :s |
| 01:09.42 | Nailbeer | lol |
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| 02:20.37 | Adys | I cant believe Hobinheim's bot is still running |
| 02:21.17 | Nailbeer | who is that? |
| 02:21.32 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Hobinbot |
| 02:22.53 | Nailbeer | if i sign up do i get my own wowwiki page? |
| 02:23.52 | Hobinheim | sure, you get a user page |
| 02:24.02 | Nailbeer | cool |
| 02:24.14 | Nailbeer | i can write stuff on myself too? |
| 02:24.22 | Hobinheim | like a player bio? |
| 02:24.30 | Nailbeer | yeah |
| 02:24.33 | Hobinheim | if it's related to warcraft, a fictional warcraft character, or you being an editor, sure |
| 02:24.47 | Nailbeer | aha cool |
| 02:25.06 | Nailbeer | so i sign up and then i have a page already to edit or i have to make one? |
| 02:25.18 | Hobinheim | you have one already |
| 02:25.19 | Adys | you gotta make one |
| 02:25.23 | Hobinheim | it would be User:Nailbeer |
| 02:25.25 | Adys | at User:Nailbeer |
| 02:25.40 | Hobinheim | it's blank, but that spot is reserved just for you |
| 02:25.48 | Nailbeer | aha |
| 02:26.01 | Nailbeer | does it have to have a User: on it? |
| 02:26.16 | Adys | Yeah |
| 02:26.20 | Nailbeer | kk |
| 02:26.25 | Hobinheim | anything under User: would be like your private stomping grounds |
| 02:26.29 | Hobinheim | that you have the right to protect |
| 02:26.29 | Adys | Hobinheim btw |
| 02:26.33 | Adys | Below are the last 1,065 changes in the last 7 days, as of 04:25, 8 January 2007. |
| 02:26.33 | Adys | Show last 1 | 2 | 6 | 12 hours 1 | 3 | 7 days all |
| 02:26.33 | Adys | Hide bot edits | Hide my edits |
| 02:26.42 | Hobinheim | if it isn't under user, you release the rights to let people write whatever they want about the article/you |
| 02:26.44 | Adys | its getting sick :p |
| 02:26.51 | Hobinheim | is 1000 a lot? |
| 02:26.57 | Adys | yes. |
| 02:27.15 | Adys | its a third of my f'n watchlist>< |
| 02:27.22 | Hobinheim | like i could make an article called /Hobinheim the Great and Long Titled, but people have the right to write nasty things about me if they wish |
| 02:27.37 | Hobinheim | but if it's User:Hobinheim/Hobinheim the Great, then i'm entitled to keeping the page the way that i want |
| 02:28.07 | Hobinheim | at least that's what the wisps tell me |
| 02:28.13 | Hobinheim | they're so chatty |
| 02:28.27 | Hobinheim | sometimes you just wanna dispel 'em... |
| 02:28.34 | Nailbeer | aha cool |
| 02:28.40 | Hobinheim | and then they go all treant on you |
| 02:28.46 | Hobinheim | throwing rocks n stuff |
| 02:28.46 | Adys | .. |
| 02:28.49 | Hobinheim | gets kinda annoying |
| 02:29.03 | Nailbeer | i saw a tree in pvp once but i banished it and ran away |
| 02:29.12 | Adys | not all trees can be good in pvp |
| 02:29.16 | Nailbeer | can druids shift out of a banished tree form? |
| 02:29.22 | Adys | no |
| 02:29.25 | Nailbeer | cool |
| 02:29.33 | Adys | actually not sure but dont think so |
| 02:29.41 | Hobinheim | i made an alt druid, i think i wanna be a tree |
| 02:29.53 | Hobinheim | then i realized i wouldn't have access to charge; and that made me sad |
| 02:29.55 | Nailbeer | my drood is 34 |
| 02:30.01 | Hobinheim | charge is my favorite warrior skill, by far |
| 02:30.09 | Hobinheim | it's so chargey |
| 02:30.26 | Hobinheim | hobinbot reporting in at 4.62% |
| 02:30.32 | Hobinheim | it's touching articles less and less frequently |
| 02:30.53 | Hobinheim | i also thought of making a more accurate full sweep |
| 02:30.55 | Nailbeer | so how do i make a title section on my page? and a picture? |
| 02:30.59 | Hobinheim | since there is an all pages function.... |
| 02:31.10 | Hobinheim | you could make a line that says: |
| 02:31.16 | Hobinheim | = Nailbeer the Great = |
| 02:31.21 | Nailbeer | aha |
| 02:31.24 | Hobinheim | and then a picture you can upload yourself |
| 02:31.27 | Hobinheim | and then link to it |
| 02:31.34 | Nailbeer | how do i make it in bigger font? is it just html? |
| 02:31.42 | Hobinheim | looking at other people's pages will answer your questions a great deal |
| 02:31.45 | Hobinheim | yeah |
| 02:31.51 | Nailbeer | aha |
| 02:31.55 | Hobinheim | we try to stay away from html if there's a wiki equivalent of it |
| 02:31.59 | Hobinheim | but if you must, html is fine |
| 02:32.05 | Nailbeer | do i need to add the table for pictures then? |
| 02:32.18 | Hobinheim | not sure what you mean |
| 02:32.19 | Adys | http://www.captainrik.net/wow/Xmas2006/Idreal.jpg |
| 02:32.24 | Hobinheim | pictures have like... layout options |
| 02:32.30 | Nailbeer | oh |
| 02:32.35 | Hobinheim | so a table might not be necessary |
| 02:32.37 | Adys | i know im late hob but was searching this screenshot |
| 02:32.41 | Nailbeer | how do i add a table? |
| 02:32.41 | Adys | for the I wanna be a tree |
| 02:32.43 | Hobinheim | again, looking at other people's pages will answer a lot of your questions |
| 02:32.48 | Nailbeer | kk |
| 02:33.01 | Hobinheim | Adys, did you see the holiday pictures |
| 02:33.08 | Adys | no? |
| 02:33.10 | Hobinheim | a treant looking at an xmas tree and says, show off |
| 02:33.18 | Adys | .. |
| 02:33.18 | Hobinheim | it's cool, find it on the official |
| 02:33.35 | Hobinheim | i heard of a most epic duel between a rogue and a treant |
| 02:33.45 | Hobinheim | the treant kept overhealing himself and the rogue couldn't keep up |
| 02:33.49 | Hobinheim | and treants do have a melee attack |
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| 02:33.56 | Hobinheim | the treant won because of thorns aura =P |
| 02:34.12 | Hobinheim | dude. tree form should totally make you fire vulnerable |
| 02:34.15 | Hobinheim | like 300% fire dmg |
| 02:34.19 | Hobinheim | that would be high larious |
| 02:34.25 | Adys | hahahahah |
| 02:34.28 | Adys | indeed |
| 02:34.32 | Nailbeer | lol |
| 02:34.38 | Geb | that would suck for us druid though |
| 02:34.39 | Hobinheim | Burn debuff prevents healing on oneself for 9 seconds. |
| 02:34.56 | Geb | >_> |
| 02:35.49 | Nailbeer | do i need to upload an image to wowwiki to use it? |
| 02:36.06 | Adys | not if its uploaded somewhere else |
| 02:36.18 | Adys | use <imagelink>http...</imagelink> |
| 02:36.20 | Nailbeer | aha cool |
| 02:40.23 | Hobinheim | yeah i guess i'm surprised the bot actually works |
| 02:40.28 | Hobinheim | just kinda... keeps going |
| 02:40.37 | Nailbeer | i cant get the picture to work |
| 02:40.57 | Hobinheim | adys are you sure tha'ts how imagelink works? |
| 02:41.09 | Hobinheim | i thought it was for linking an embedded image to an external website w/o showing the ext link thing |
| 02:44.26 | Nailbeer | regular html for image doesnt work |
| 02:44.56 | Geb | i thought HTML worked in the wiki |
| 02:45.10 | Geb | you using <img src="URL">? |
| 02:45.15 | Nailbeer | the table did but not the image...yeah |
| 02:47.06 | Nailbeer | is there a way to add an image to wiki? |
| 02:47.16 | Hobinheim | always look up the wiki way of doing something first |
| 02:47.42 | Hobinheim | if you ever have a question of how to do something, you can look up the article on wikipedia |
| 02:47.47 | Hobinheim | we're like 90% the same |
| 02:48.00 | Nailbeer | aha |
| 02:48.06 | Hobinheim | so if there's a wikipedia help page that you can find off of google that tells you how to input an image, we're probably doing the exact same thing |
| 02:52.04 | Nailbeer | woot http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Nailbeer |
| 02:53.21 | Hobinheim | looks good so far |
| 02:53.39 | Geb | so how did you upload the image? |
| 02:53.54 | Nailbeer | http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Upload |
| 02:54.02 | Hobinheim | heh teaching now |
| 02:54.12 | Nailbeer | lol |
| 02:54.25 | Geb | cool |
| 02:54.31 | Hobinheim | it's the hallmark of a pro |
| 03:00.16 | Nailbeer | i dont get myspace but this is fun |
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| 03:13.23 | Nailbeer | aha i updated my page |
| 03:15.04 | Zeal | [[image:] is how you include internal images. <imagelink> is the only way to include external images or redirect interal ones on the wiki. images can't be used in css on the wiki. <img> can't be used on the wiki. |
| 03:15.08 | Zeal | and i'm off, nn all |
| 03:15.14 | Adys | g |
| 03:15.15 | Adys | gn* |
| 03:15.16 | Nailbeer | later |
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| 04:33.05 | Bagginsww | Was anyone on when we were discussing humans, dwarves, and gnomes and stone flesh? |
| 04:33.21 | Bagginsww | I forgot about the Sisters of Steel |
| 04:33.43 | Bagginsww | includes human,s dwarves, and gnomes that have learned how to turn their flesh to steel. |
| 04:34.06 | Bagginsww | "proof that it isn't a dwarf only phenomena" |
| 04:35.19 | Bagginsww | The sister of stell has skin like steel. Her skin looks to be made of steekl or rock, and indeed at least part of her body is a form of rocky or metallic flesh |
| 04:35.44 | Bagginsww | this would imply that humans gnomes,a nd dwarves would have a distant connection to titans. |
| 04:35.58 | Bagginsww | the lore hints that it may be a connection to Khaz'garoth |
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| 05:32.54 | Bagginsww | Wow I never thought I'd get into an arguement with Ragestorm over his personal opinion of canon hierarchy and blizzard's statements on the issue... |
| 05:34.38 | Bagginsww | one inconsistency appears between HPG and ROTH and he's ready to call hell on the RPG... even though both books were written at the same time as each other, likely didn't have both staffs in communicaiton, and only had blizzard staff intermediating and editing, and fact checking. |
| 05:35.57 | Bagginsww | I don't blame the authors, I blame those higher up on the issue |
| 05:36.15 | Bagginsww | the creative minds behind the games, as stated in the book, and Metzen as he was on the staff of the book. |
| 05:36.27 | Bagginsww | but its a hard job |
| 05:36.29 | Bagginsww | they are human |
| 05:36.37 | Bagginsww | inconsistencies happy |
| 05:36.41 | Bagginsww | so I just live iwth it |
| 05:36.49 | Bagginsww | its not that big of deal :p |
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| 09:08.01 | dok3Dal | hi |
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| 14:34.09 | Tuqui-tuqui | good morning -.- |
| 14:34.20 | Tepetkhet | Hello there. |
| 14:34.30 | Tuqui-tuqui | dont come near me |
| 14:34.35 | Tuqui-tuqui | feeling seck |
| 14:34.41 | Tuqui-tuqui | X0~ |
| 14:35.00 | Tepetkhet | Feeling secksy? |
| 14:35.09 | Tepetkhet | heh |
| 14:35.39 | Tuqui-tuqui | well |
| 14:35.44 | Tuqui-tuqui | I always feel the sexxeh |
| 14:42.59 | equiraptor | heh |
| 14:49.03 | Tuqui-tuqui | two days ago |
| 14:49.13 | Tuqui-tuqui | alliance raided our crossroads |
| 14:49.20 | Tuqui-tuqui | and one of their mages turned into an angel? |
| 14:50.29 | Tepetkhet | Yes. |
| 14:50.32 | Tepetkhet | wait |
| 14:50.37 | Tepetkhet | Priest |
| 14:50.38 | equiraptor | Mages? |
| 14:50.40 | Tepetkhet | Priest would. |
| 14:50.42 | Tuqui-tuqui | priest |
| 14:50.43 | Tepetkhet | But not a mage. |
| 14:50.43 | Tuqui-tuqui | kk |
| 14:50.47 | Tuqui-tuqui | but what is it |
| 14:50.49 | Tuqui-tuqui | and what does it do |
| 14:50.54 | equiraptor | It's the 21 talent point in holy. |
| 14:50.57 | Tepetkhet | yeah |
| 14:50.58 | equiraptor | Lets them heal for another 10 seconds. |
| 14:51.06 | Tuqui-tuqui | ahhh |
| 14:51.08 | Tuqui-tuqui | schweet :D |
| 14:51.10 | Tepetkhet | They can usually get off 2 or 3 more heals. |
| 14:51.12 | equiraptor | Yeah. |
| 14:51.17 | Tuqui-tuqui | I think Ill make my next too a priest |
| 14:51.19 | Tepetkhet | And can't be killed again. |
| 14:51.27 | Tuqui-tuqui | priest are always in demand |
| 14:51.30 | Tepetkhet | yeah |
| 14:51.31 | Tepetkhet | Bigtime. |
| 14:51.41 | Tepetkhet | We still need holy priests on my realm. |
| 14:51.58 | Tepetkhet | Although we finally gave in and accepted a shadow priest. |
| 14:52.04 | equiraptor | Called Spirit of Redemption. Increases total spirit by 5% and upon death, the priest becomes the Spirit of Redemption for 15 sec (Oh, I thought it was 10). The Spirit of Redemption cannot move, attack, be attacked, or targeted by any spells or effects... |
| 14:52.06 | Tepetkhet | They can do some good damage. |
| 14:52.18 | equiraptor | While in this form, the priest can cast any healing spell free of cost. When the effect ends, the priest dies. |
| 14:52.18 | Tepetkhet | equiraptor: I think that changed recently... |
| 14:52.31 | equiraptor | Possibly with 2.0 :) |
| 14:52.33 | equiraptor | ? |
| 14:52.34 | Tuqui-tuqui | :o |
| 14:52.36 | Tepetkhet | maybe |
| 14:52.56 | Tuqui-tuqui | the priest dies? |
| 14:52.56 | Tepetkhet | well, yes |
| 14:52.56 | equiraptor | Yeah. |
| 14:52.56 | Tuqui-tuqui | but at least it dies in a cool manner :D |
| 14:52.56 | equiraptor | It comes when they've been killed in normal form. |
| 14:52.56 | Tepetkhet | It's when your character is killed off anyway. |
| 14:52.59 | Tepetkhet | It's like a last hurrah. |
| 14:53.04 | equiraptor | So, when a priest with that talent reaches 0 health, it goes to angel form. |
| 14:53.11 | Tepetkhet | One last service the priest does. |
| 14:53.14 | Tuqui-tuqui | heh :D |
| 14:53.15 | equiraptor | It then exists for another 15 seconds, during which it can heal. |
| 14:53.18 | equiraptor | And then it dies for good. |
| 14:53.23 | Tuqui-tuqui | but the priest can be revived by someone else right? |
| 14:53.23 | Tepetkhet | "for good" |
| 14:53.26 | Tuqui-tuqui | o |
| 14:53.27 | Tuqui-tuqui | oh |
| 14:53.29 | Tepetkhet | not really |
| 14:53.29 | Tuqui-tuqui | wow |
| 14:53.34 | Tepetkhet | Not permadeath. |
| 14:53.36 | Tuqui-tuqui | so it really is a last resort |
| 14:53.40 | equiraptor | It can't be rezed while in spirit form. |
| 14:53.44 | equiraptor | It can once it really dies. |
| 14:53.47 | Tuqui-tuqui | kk |
| 14:53.53 | equiraptor | No death in WoW is 100% permanent. |
| 14:53.56 | equiraptor | WoW doesn't do that. |
| 14:53.59 | Tepetkhet | They can release or be revived like normal. |
| 14:54.06 | Tepetkhet | AFTER the angel form dies. |
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| 14:54.21 | Tuqui-tuqui | but I mean |
| 14:54.32 | Tuqui-tuqui | they can be revived once they die in that spot |
| 14:54.40 | equiraptor | Yeah. Once the angel dies. |
| 14:54.44 | Tuqui-tuqui | coolio |
| 14:54.49 | Tepetkhet | After the angel form expires. |
| 14:54.52 | Tuqui-tuqui | I was afraid maybe in an instance |
| 14:54.57 | equiraptor | Once the angel dies, it's the same as if they hadn't had the talent. |
| 14:54.58 | Tuqui-tuqui | the priest would have to do it again |
| 14:56.01 | equiraptor | (oh, and the angel form does die, not expire. There was a time when priests with that talent were taking 10% durability loss on priest death + 10% duraility loss on angel death) |
| 14:56.10 | equiraptor | So they have 20% durability loss each time something killed them. |
| 14:56.17 | equiraptor | That was considered a bug, and fixed. |
| 14:56.18 | Tepetkhet | Oh, that sucks! |
| 14:56.21 | Tepetkhet | yeah |
| 14:56.40 | equiraptor | But, in game mechanics, that talent makes a priest die twice for each time it reaches 0 health. |
| 14:57.05 | Tepetkhet | "Nobody dies, dies twice..." Except for a holy priest in WoW! |
| 14:57.10 | Tuqui-tuqui | lol |
| 14:57.14 | Tuqui-tuqui | now |
| 14:57.16 | equiraptor | hehe |
| 14:57.24 | Tuqui-tuqui | is that talent available for alliance AND horde? |
| 14:57.31 | Tuqui-tuqui | do horde get an undead angel? :D |
| 14:57.56 | equiraptor | It's available for both, I've never seen the horde angel. |
| 14:58.04 | equiraptor | I'd expect it to be the same, though. But I don't know. |
| 14:58.04 | Tuqui-tuqui | I wonder if horde gets the angel of death |
| 14:58.07 | Tuqui-tuqui | with scythe and all |
| 14:58.11 | Kirkburn | Hullo |
| 14:58.18 | Tuqui-tuqui | and instead of healing friendlies |
| 14:58.20 | equiraptor | heh, that would be cool. :) |
| 14:58.24 | Tuqui-tuqui | it takes away health from enemy :o |
| 14:58.33 | Tuqui-tuqui | how bad ass would that be XD |
| 14:58.41 | Tuqui-tuqui | I should work in Blizzard Ā¬.Ā¬ |
| 14:59.10 | Kirkburn | 'cept horde aren't evil =) |
| 14:59.22 | Tuqui-tuqui | Angel of Death ā¢Ā©Ā® Tuqui-tuqui 2007 |
| 14:59.27 | Tuqui-tuqui | I knows :< |
| 14:59.32 | equiraptor | Having an angel more repersentative of their races would be nice, though. |
| 15:00.10 | Tuqui-tuqui | yeah |
| 15:00.14 | Tuqui-tuqui | Tauren can have a cow |
| 15:00.23 | Tuqui-tuqui | the angel cow |
| 15:00.32 | equiraptor | Tauren can't be priests. |
| 15:00.53 | Tuqui-tuqui | http://www.pjhornberger.com/update%201-23-06/1-22-06-cow-angel.jpg |
| 15:00.56 | Tuqui-tuqui | yeah :D |
| 15:01.04 | Tuqui-tuqui | oh they cant? =\ |
| 15:01.16 | Tuqui-tuqui | the holy cow moos over you |
| 15:02.29 | Tepetkhet | heh |
| 15:02.40 | Tepetkhet | Horde priests get an identical spirit form. |
| 15:02.48 | Tepetkhet | It looks the same for all races and genders. |
| 15:02.48 | Tuqui-tuqui | nooooo!!! |
| 15:02.55 | Tepetkhet | Which I think is kinda lame... |
| 15:02.56 | equiraptor | That's boring. :( |
| 15:02.58 | Tepetkhet | But whatever. |
| 15:02.59 | Tuqui-tuqui | thats discrimnation >:{ |
| 15:03.07 | Tepetkhet | Yeah, they are all ribbon-clad females. |
| 15:03.08 | Tepetkhet | heh |
| 15:03.17 | Tepetkhet | Look kinda like the angels from Diablo II. |
| 15:03.30 | Tepetkhet | Geez, my cat really did a number on my wrist! |
| 15:03.39 | Tuqui-tuqui | 0.o |
| 15:04.08 | Tuqui-tuqui | wut did he/she do |
| 15:05.54 | Tepetkhet | He was just playing around... |
| 15:06.02 | Tepetkhet | And "disemboweled" my wrist. |
| 15:06.06 | Tuqui-tuqui | :o |
| 15:06.17 | Tuqui-tuqui | you havent declawed your cat? |
| 15:06.22 | Tepetkhet | Kicked with his hind legs. |
| 15:06.39 | Tepetkhet | No, I have not. Don't ask why, or you will get an earful. |
| 15:06.40 | Tepetkhet | heh |
| 15:06.52 | Tuqui-tuqui | Ā¬.Ā¬ |
| 15:11.44 | equiraptor | I love my kitties. Even when they scratch me. |
| 15:12.10 | equiraptor | One of my mother's cats refuses to be picked up. Try to pick her up, and she turns into a ball of claws and teeth. We have to... Um... Plan ahead to get her to the vet. |
| 15:12.35 | equiraptor | She also has some infection in her mouth. It's not harmful to her, but if she bites someone, the would will get infected. Badly. |
| 15:12.42 | Tepetkhet | Ahhhh |
| 15:12.46 | Tepetkhet | Like the komodo dragons. |
| 15:12.55 | equiraptor | Yeah. |
| 15:13.09 | equiraptor | Frequently, my parents make me deal with her. |
| 15:13.18 | equiraptor | Apparently, I'm the animal person in the family. |
| 15:13.26 | Tepetkhet | zomghungry |
| 15:14.16 | Tepetkhet | That reminds me. |
| 15:15.19 | Tepetkhet | I have a 15 year old kid (obsessed with muffins so made a mage named Zomgmuffins). Kid plays an Alliance priest. |
| 15:15.26 | Tepetkhet | On another realm with Daddy. |
| 15:15.34 | Tepetkhet | I play Horde. |
| 15:15.44 | Tepetkhet | Our two realms happen to be in the same battlegroup. |
| 15:15.58 | Tepetkhet | Kid killed me in AV once. heh |
| 15:16.00 | equiraptor | Uh oh... |
| 15:16.01 | equiraptor | Heh :) |
| 15:16.23 | equiraptor | Dangit. People are not following the standards I set forth. |
| 15:16.25 | Tepetkhet | So over the weekend, my guild was doing a bunch of Arathi Basin battlegrounds... |
| 15:16.31 | Tepetkhet | And so was my kid. |
| 15:16.42 | Tepetkhet | Kid started asking me, "Hey, do you know so and so on Khaz Modan?: |
| 15:16.50 | Tepetkhet | And then finally asked what BG my guild was in. |
| 15:16.59 | Tepetkhet | And got into a few with my guildies. |
| 15:17.30 | Tepetkhet | My kid kept asking me which one they were in, so I started telling my guildies where to find kid's char. |
| 15:17.57 | Tepetkhet | AB quickly degenerated from "capture nodes" to "see who can gank Tep's kid the most". |
| 15:18.23 | Tepetkhet | This actually went on for almost an hour. |
| 15:20.31 | Tepetkhet | Kid created a Horde alt on our realm named Spawnoftep just to say hi to a couple people that participated. |
| 15:20.32 | Tepetkhet | heh |
| 15:20.43 | equiraptor | heh |
| 15:20.45 | equiraptor | Nice name. :) |
| 15:20.51 | Tepetkhet | yup |
| 15:27.03 | Tuqui-tuqui | my next character will be |
| 15:27.10 | Tuqui-tuqui | Naked Cowboy |
| 15:27.21 | Tuqui-tuqui | I wont wear any armor |
| 15:27.24 | equiraptor | A tauren that doesn't wear any armor? |
| 15:28.21 | Tuqui-tuqui | -.- |
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| 16:01.06 | mHobinhei | aww is my name screwed up |
| 16:02.04 | Kirkburn | lol, hello Hob |
| 16:02.25 | Kirkburn | Awesomeness! http://www.bravia-advert.com/paint/thead/ |
| 16:08.26 | mHobinhei | nice ad Kirkburn |
| 16:08.33 | Tuqui-tuqui | page takes too long to load -.- |
| 16:08.41 | Kirkburn | :D |
| 16:08.43 | Tuqui-tuqui | it better be a good ad XD |
| 16:08.51 | Kirkburn | It's real, too |
| 16:08.58 | Kirkburn | Yeah, excellent ad :) |
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| 16:10.04 | Hobinheim | lol that can't be real |
| 16:10.58 | Tuqui-tuqui | finally it downloads :D |
| 16:11.06 | Tuqui-tuqui | almost |
| 16:11.09 | Tuqui-tuqui | there |
| 16:11.22 | Kirkburn | Hobinheim, oh but it is! |
| 16:11.38 | Hobinheim | hey i found a making of video on youtube |
| 16:11.46 | Hobinheim | is youtube an international thing or amero-centric? |
| 16:11.57 | Hobinheim | like perfect example |
| 16:12.05 | Tuqui-tuqui | -.- |
| 16:12.06 | Hobinheim | it is SHOCKING to american teenagers that not everyone uses AIM |
| 16:12.15 | Hobinheim | some non-USers don't even know what IAM is |
| 16:12.27 | Hobinheim | if you don't use AIM, you're like... a weirdo |
| 16:13.21 | Kirkburn | International, yes |
| 16:13.43 | Kirkburn | Europe is Windows Live Messenger land |
| 16:15.01 | Hobinheim | i knew it, they photoshopped the hangers out |
| 16:16.42 | Tuqui-tuqui | that was great :D |
| 16:16.45 | Tuqui-tuqui | I love it! |
| 16:17.57 | Tepetkhet | Yeah, most Europeans I know use MSN Messenger. |
| 16:18.28 | Tepetkhet | I use Trillian and GAIM so I can communicate with all of 'em. |
| 16:19.38 | Tuqui-tuqui | I use MSN mobile -.- |
| 16:19.42 | Tuqui-tuqui | but then again |
| 16:19.46 | Tuqui-tuqui | I dont have anyone in there |
| 16:33.25 | Apollozeus | <@Hobinheim> is youtube an international thing or amero-centric? |
| 16:33.30 | Apollozeus | youtube is international |
| 16:33.39 | Apollozeus | but about AIM... yeah |
| 16:33.48 | Apollozeus | I doubt anyone else in my class would have heard about it |
| 16:36.43 | Tepetkhet | My guildmaster wants to suspend raiding after the Burning Crusade comes out. |
| 16:36.51 | Tepetkhet | And focus on levelling. Rush to 70. |
| 16:37.15 | Tepetkhet | This makes me sad because we still haven't finished MC or gone into BWL or Naxx. |
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| 16:42.22 | jrr | you'll fly through them at 70 =] |
| 16:46.37 | Hobinheim | Tepetkhet, i guess it would be every man for himself until people hit that ceiling again |
| 16:46.44 | Hobinheim | that or just keep using outland greens |
| 16:48.19 | Hobinheim | i think blizzard is doing a good job focusing on less people and hybrids |
| 16:48.26 | Hobinheim | makes the game more fun and more accessible |
| 16:48.57 | Hobinheim | and hopefully much less poopsocking |
| 16:58.14 | Hobinheim | i feel bad for priests though |
| 16:58.37 | Hobinheim | the priest forum i read is all mad about hybrid classes still having excellent abliities in-tree |
| 16:58.46 | Hobinheim | and that playing a shadowpriest is boring |
| 16:58.53 | Hobinheim | i guess it's kinda true |
| 16:59.58 | Tepetkhet | WHAT?? |
| 17:00.10 | Tepetkhet | Most people I know say playing a healer is boring. |
| 17:00.14 | Tepetkhet | And want to go zomgshadow. |
| 17:00.18 | Tepetkhet | And melt faces. |
| 17:00.23 | Tepetkhet | It's a real problem for the Horde. |
| 17:06.02 | Tuqui-tuqui | I say we all become priests and nuns |
| 17:06.29 | Tepetkhet | Let's not and say we did. |
| 17:07.36 | dok3Dal | <FrN~jrr> you'll fly through them at 70 =] << this is wrong |
| 17:08.28 | jrr | why is there "FrN~" stuck on the front of my nick? |
| 17:08.39 | Tepetkhet | Uh oh. |
| 17:08.53 | jrr | =D |
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| 17:09.08 | jrr | FrN~ |
| 17:09.18 | dok3Dal | FreeNode |
| 17:09.32 | jrr | interesting |
| 17:09.38 | dok3Dal | bouncer with multiple network inside |
| 17:10.35 | jrr | so you don't think current 60 instances will be far easier at 70? |
| 17:10.47 | jrr | oops. |
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| 17:11.08 | jrr | welcome back. |
| 17:11.35 | dok3Dal | well my connection suxx today :/ |
| 17:13.14 | jrr | so you don't think current 60 instances will be far easier at 70? |
| 17:13.30 | dok3Dal | As I know, SkullBoss level will "scale" with player level for armor mitigation, damage mitigation, crit, crush, glancing and resist |
| 17:13.49 | jrr | oh. |
| 17:13.57 | jrr | i thought the only variation of dungeon difficulty was in the explicit setting |
| 17:14.03 | dok3Dal | Of course raid dps will increase, healing power too |
| 17:14.37 | dok3Dal | but lets talk about warrior tanking pw |
| 17:14.42 | Tepetkhet | I don't want to rush through the next 10 levels, though... |
| 17:14.55 | jrr | then take your time |
| 17:15.05 | Tepetkhet | Except that's what our guild will be pushing. |
| 17:15.07 | Tepetkhet | Hurry up. |
| 17:15.10 | Tepetkhet | Rush to 70. |
| 17:15.13 | dok3Dal | actually my war have 12k ac and around 45% total mitigation |
| 17:15.22 | Tepetkhet | At least, that's what our GM wants. |
| 17:15.22 | jrr | when you were 50 did they push to rush to 60? |
| 17:15.26 | Tepetkhet | Yes. |
| 17:15.26 | dok3Dal | and around 11k+ pv for this fight |
| 17:15.27 | Tepetkhet | heh |
| 17:15.31 | Tepetkhet | Guild's 55+ |
| 17:15.50 | Tepetkhet | We have a guy who just joined who's level 58. |
| 17:15.55 | Tepetkhet | We're like, "Hurry up!" |
| 17:16.15 | dok3Dal | the fact is that at 70 with equivalent gear I will lose 30% of my mitigation due to rating system |
| 17:16.18 | Tuqui-tuqui | im lvl29 -.- |
| 17:16.45 | dok3Dal | including defense |
| 17:16.58 | dok3Dal | in fact making me no more immune to crit |
| 17:17.07 | dok3Dal | and still getting crushing |
| 17:17.19 | dok3Dal | loosing dodge, parry, block |
| 17:17.26 | dok3Dal | and armor absorb |
| 17:18.03 | dok3Dal | just because boss level will still be considered +3 |
| 17:18.18 | dok3Dal | cac will still have glancing |
| 17:18.28 | dok3Dal | casters will still have 17% resist |
| 17:19.12 | dok3Dal | so at 70 you will fly throught trash but not throught boss |
| 17:19.30 | dok3Dal | Yes it will be more easy but not as much as expected |
| 17:19.38 | jrr | you're sure the bosses will scale? |
| 17:19.41 | Tepetkhet | hm |
| 17:20.08 | dok3Dal | I have seen screenshot of a 69 warrior tanking crushing from Venoxis |
| 17:20.30 | dok3Dal | and find some post on forums talking about that |
| 17:20.48 | dok3Dal | So as far as I know : Yes it will scale |
| 17:20.57 | Tepetkhet | So at level 69, Venoxis is still about the same as at level 60? |
| 17:21.17 | Tepetkhet | So we won't be able to just run in and swat him in 5 secs instead of the usual 10? ;) |
| 17:21.37 | dok3Dal | at level 69 venoxis dont have more HP |
| 17:21.56 | dok3Dal | but he will still crit and crush tank |
| 17:22.12 | dok3Dal | he will still resist spells |
| 17:22.18 | dok3Dal | etc |
| 17:22.32 | dok3Dal | also for resist gear |
| 17:22.44 | Tepetkhet | So the healers still need to pay attention and heal the freakin' tank. |
| 17:22.54 | jrr | bbl lunch |
| 17:23.00 | dok3Dal | for exemple firemaw actually the tank wear 315 fr and it's ok |
| 17:23.08 | Tepetkhet | Right |
| 17:23.09 | dok3Dal | but at 70 |
| 17:23.28 | Tepetkhet | You need more? |
| 17:23.45 | dok3Dal | the resist cap againt all skullboss will be 365 |
| 17:23.51 | Tepetkhet | Whoan. |
| 17:23.53 | dok3Dal | including actual ones |
| 17:23.53 | Tepetkhet | er, Whoah |
| 17:24.00 | Tepetkhet | Okay, that SUCKS. |
| 17:24.10 | Tepetkhet | So in other words... |
| 17:24.24 | Tepetkhet | It sounds like you're saying that at level 70, you'll need MORE base FR to do MC and the like. |
| 17:24.46 | dok3Dal | actually ... yes |
| 17:24.58 | Tepetkhet | So you won't be able to goof around in Molten Core at level 70 with the same FR gear you used at 60. |
| 17:25.02 | dok3Dal | if nothing change since the release |
| 17:25.16 | Tepetkhet | Do you have any proof of this? |
| 17:25.17 | dok3Dal | only against skullboss |
| 17:25.21 | dok3Dal | trash will not scale |
| 17:25.27 | Tepetkhet | Oh, so lava packs are still fine. |
| 17:25.29 | dok3Dal | w8 |
| 17:25.32 | Tepetkhet | But Rags is blah |
| 17:26.26 | dok3Dal | http://forums.elitistjerks.com/viewtopic.php?id=9579 |
| 17:26.43 | Tepetkhet | See, most people are thinking that MC and BWL and Naxx are going to be EZ mode at level 70. Just hurry up and get to 70, throw on some of that new Outlands gear, and you're good to go rape the Core. |
| 17:27.42 | dok3Dal | you will rape the trash |
| 17:27.52 | Tepetkhet | Cute avatar. Is that a Guild Wars char or something? |
| 17:27.57 | dok3Dal | and a lots of boss due to overall dpsincrease |
| 17:28.15 | Tepetkhet | Well, we're already tearing stuff apart after 2.0 faster than usual. |
| 17:28.35 | Tepetkhet | Like Bat Boss in ZG...we had a single molotov cocktail drop from the bats just as we killed her. |
| 17:28.55 | dok3Dal | but some boss will still be hard and some will be fucking hard ... especially for resist gear purpose |
| 17:29.02 | Tepetkhet | Whereas before, we had to survive one or 2 full waves. |
| 17:29.43 | dok3Dal | lets talk about saphiron ... actually the resist cap is 315. full cloth resist gear give you about ~230-250 and at 60 it is ok |
| 17:30.25 | dok3Dal | at level 70 resist cap against him will be ... 365 ... and 230 frost resist will not be enough |
| 17:31.52 | Tepetkhet | Hrrrm. |
| 17:32.04 | dok3Dal | but some fight like Gothik, Loatheb, Noth will be fucking easy |
| 17:32.24 | Tepetkhet | My guild hasn't even done Onyxia. |
| 17:32.39 | Tepetkhet | And this link...is this the only one you have on the phenomenon? |
| 17:32.54 | dok3Dal | no there is some post on official forum too |
| 17:33.03 | dok3Dal | but they are lost in time |
| 17:33.09 | dok3Dal | and |
| 17:33.24 | dok3Dal | absolutely no blue response :/ |
| 17:33.48 | dok3Dal | afk work |
| 17:34.20 | Tepetkhet | Thank you. |
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| 17:41.15 | Adys | dear god in heaven hobinheim |
| 17:41.19 | Adys | how long left for the bot :P |
| 17:53.58 | Kirkburn | Vote: http://www.wowwiki.com/Template_talk:Spelling |
| 17:54.11 | Kirkburn | You have bot changed showing, Adys? |
| 17:54.13 | Kirkburn | *changes |
| 17:54.29 | Adys | yes :D |
| 17:54.34 | Adys | funnier that way :P |
| 17:54.42 | Adys | on watchlist only |
| 17:54.53 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 17:56.39 | Adys | back in a bit |
| 18:05.16 | Kirkburn | EU have annouced 2.0.3 for wednesday |
| 18:05.47 | Adys | Kirk, did you hear about realm splits? |
| 18:05.54 | Kirkburn | Yup |
| 18:05.58 | Adys | :| |
| 18:06.01 | Kirkburn | Haven't logged the beta though |
| 18:07.13 | Hobinheim | what is a realm split |
| 18:07.17 | Adys | http://beta.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1993892&pageNo=1&sid=1#0 |
| 18:07.27 | Hobinheim | btw the bot isn't like... |
| 18:07.29 | Hobinheim | it doesn't end |
| 18:07.34 | Hobinheim | it's more of ... an editor |
| 18:07.45 | Hobinheim | whose tireless efforts contribute to the entity that is elune |
| 18:07.48 | Hobinheim | err wowwiki |
| 18:08.09 | Adys | Hob shush |
| 18:08.14 | Adys | whats the percent left :P |
| 18:08.16 | Hobinheim | the percentage i keep reporting isn't like... how much left to go. well, it is, but it's not like... it won't end |
| 18:08.37 | Hobinheim | it's like fighting off an infection that looks like a level one heading |
| 18:08.45 | Hobinheim | 2.27% |
| 18:08.51 | Hobinheim | down from 20% |
| 18:09.20 | Adys | Below are the last 1,183 changes in the last 7 days, as of 20:09, 8 January 2007. |
| 18:09.36 | Hobinheim | he's a champ i tell ya! |
| 18:09.59 | Hobinheim | he's a little quiet though. i wish he'd talk in village pump more |
| 18:16.00 | Kirkburn | I gots to find myself a Wii this weekend |
| 18:16.13 | Kirkburn | I love bots |
| 18:16.29 | Kirkburn | Oh, that reminds me |
| 18:16.40 | Kirkburn | We need to change how the bc template works |
| 18:17.33 | Kirkburn | I suggest a 'main' bc template (same as the current one) |
| 18:17.51 | Kirkburn | And a small short one for mobs and article sections, one line |
| 18:17.57 | Adys | yep |
| 18:18.00 | Kirkburn | the first one categorises, the second doesn't |
| 18:18.19 | Adys | Hold on kirk |
| 18:19.04 | Hobinheim | didn't we already have a bc-inline template |
| 18:19.29 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Adys/Sandbox |
| 18:19.33 | Adys | look at top right |
| 18:19.38 | Adys | small comment like that + icon |
| 18:19.49 | Adys | and for sessions, we can eventually find another way |
| 18:20.32 | Hobinheim | sessions...? |
| 18:20.38 | Adys | Yeah |
| 18:20.41 | Adys | frostbolt rank 12 |
| 18:20.43 | Adys | for example |
| 18:20.47 | Hobinheim | what's a session? |
| 18:20.55 | Adys | ==HiImASession== |
| 18:21.01 | Hobinheim | wtf? |
| 18:21.02 | Hobinheim | sections |
| 18:21.08 | Adys | Im FRENCH |
| 18:21.10 | Adys | ffs. |
| 18:21.12 | Adys | :P |
| 18:21.13 | Hobinheim | sections, friend |
| 18:21.18 | Hobinheim | sek. shuns. |
| 18:21.19 | Adys | ah sod it |
| 18:21.23 | Hobinheim | =) |
| 18:21.29 | Hobinheim | how about the same bc icon |
| 18:21.32 | Hobinheim | but just right-aligned |
| 18:21.33 | Hobinheim | no good? |
| 18:21.36 | Adys | yeah |
| 18:21.50 | Hobinheim | == Section == \\ {{bc-inline}} \\ Frostbolt sucks! |
| 18:21.53 | Adys | just find a way to make it look cool |
| 18:22.00 | *** join/#wowwiki kaso (n=kaso@host81-159-133-178.range81-159.btcentralplus.com) |
| 18:24.43 | Adys | here we go |
| 18:24.44 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:Bcarticle |
| 18:24.51 | Adys | and now to make Bc-inline look better |
| 18:25.35 | Tuqui-tuqui | I love this |
| 18:25.37 | Tuqui-tuqui | http://www.blizzard.com/wow/ssotd/images/screenoftheday/ss0852.jpg |
| 18:25.45 | Adys | is there any way to position the icon over the header line? |
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| 18:52.17 | *** join/#wowwiki dotted (n=nnscript@0x555157c7.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 18:55.31 | Kirkburn | lol, I made my sig wrong :P |
| 18:55.43 | Kirkburn | It included reams of text :/ |
| 19:05.55 | dotted | whats a good name for a Guild progress template with progress in MC, BWL and AQ40? |
| 19:06.17 | dotted | i cant seem to think of anything that sounds good |
| 19:06.18 | dotted | :/ |
| 19:06.25 | Tepetkhet | What do you mean? |
| 19:07.25 | dotted | well toy have www.wowwiki.com/Template:Guild_Progress/Naxxramas, but we also need on for the others |
| 19:07.36 | dotted | *we |
| 19:07.37 | dotted | :S |
| 19:10.36 | Tepetkhet | They're all pre-BC 40-man content... |
| 19:10.54 | Tepetkhet | We call them endgame on our server. |
| 19:11.03 | Tepetkhet | But then we don't have any KT kills on our realm. |
| 19:11.13 | Tepetkhet | And only one or 2 guilds even in Naxx. |
| 19:13.44 | Hobinheim | what is the original bc template used for with inline and article defined |
| 19:23.46 | dotted | Tepetkhet since naxx is also endgame we cant use that :/ |
| 19:24.28 | equiraptor | 40 man raids? 40 man level 60 raids? |
| 19:24.39 | *** join/#wowwiki Patrigan-Syldra (n=iron_pla@80.221-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 19:27.01 | Tepetkhet | yeah |
| 19:27.12 | Patrigan-Syldra | no! |
| 19:27.14 | Tepetkhet | dotted: SOME people tell me that only Naxx is endgame... |
| 19:27.33 | Tepetkhet | And still others say it's not going to be for long since BC is coming out soon. |
| 19:27.35 | Apollozeus | <Tepetkhet> dotted: SOME people tell me that only Naxx is endgame... <-- stupid elitists |
| 19:27.40 | Tepetkhet | hah |
| 19:27.47 | Apollozeus | anything from Zul'Gurub on is endgame |
| 19:27.47 | Tepetkhet | Yeah, that would be my first visit in here, actually. |
| 19:27.54 | Patrigan-Syldra | what Apollozeus |
| 19:27.56 | Patrigan-Syldra | said |
| 19:28.02 | Tepetkhet | Thank you!!! |
| 19:28.20 | Patrigan-Syldra | though I agree |
| 19:28.28 | Patrigan-Syldra | From the 16th |
| 19:28.32 | Tepetkhet | My first visit in here, somebody said that to me and I got upset and left. :/ |
| 19:28.33 | Patrigan-Syldra | it will no longer be endgame |
| 19:28.46 | Apollozeus | :) |
| 19:28.47 | Patrigan-Syldra | oO |
| 19:28.54 | Patrigan-Syldra | that's silly |
| 19:28.59 | Apollozeus | people in good guilds tend to become elitist |
| 19:29.05 | Patrigan-Syldra | not only from the person saying that, but why leave? |
| 19:29.06 | Apollozeus | just ignore their comments |
| 19:29.11 | Patrigan-Syldra | agree with Apollozeus |
| 19:29.14 | Hobinheim | endgame starts when you hit 60 |
| 19:29.19 | Hobinheim | everyone else is just jerks |
| 19:29.22 | Tepetkhet | Well, a couple people were saying it. |
| 19:29.34 | Hobinheim | and then when you get bc, endgame is when you hit 70 |
| 19:29.35 | Patrigan-Syldra | we have this KZ downed guild and they are like "at the endgame of BC we only recruit people who got far in Naxx) |
| 19:29.39 | Tepetkhet | At least, one was saying and another was kinda agreeing, so... |
| 19:29.43 | Tepetkhet | I didn't want to deal with it. |
| 19:29.49 | Hobinheim | it just occured to me... not eveyrone will purchase bc (or maybe they will |
| 19:29.56 | Apollozeus | Patrigan-Syldra, sounds like a guild which will disband... ;D |
| 19:29.57 | Hobinheim | so there will still be a coalition of tapped 60s |
| 19:30.01 | Patrigan-Syldra | no Apollozeus |
| 19:30.07 | Patrigan-Syldra | or well yeah in BC it will XD |
| 19:30.13 | Patrigan-Syldra | though, I'm currently counting down |
| 19:30.18 | Hobinheim | ATIESH + THUNDERFURY REQUIRED |
| 19:30.22 | Apollozeus | haha |
| 19:30.26 | Hobinheim | that'll be my recruiting msg |
| 19:30.27 | Tepetkhet | hahaha |
| 19:30.31 | Patrigan-Syldra | of the 10+ guilds who we're in the DEEP endgame (that's what I refer naxx and AQ40) |
| 19:30.38 | Patrigan-Syldra | there's only 3-4 left XD |
| 19:30.42 | Patrigan-Syldra | everything else alrdy disbanded |
| 19:30.47 | Patrigan-Syldra | 2 guilds are close to the disband |
| 19:31.02 | Tepetkhet | My kid's a priest on another realm...and has gone through 2 endgame guilds in the last month. |
| 19:31.10 | Apollozeus | from the ashes, some new guilds will arise |
| 19:31.11 | Tepetkhet | Both fell apart and stopped raiding after 2.0 |
| 19:31.17 | Apollozeus | WoW is like a phoenix |
| 19:31.18 | Apollozeus | ;) |
| 19:31.20 | Patrigan-Syldra | and the 2 last (the only 2 who have downed KZ) are currently recruiting the best from those disbanded guilds to keep themselves running ^^ |
| 19:31.36 | equiraptor | My raiding guild died before 2.0, and it seems like 2.0 may bring it back. |
| 19:31.36 | Hobinheim | i suspect smaller guilds will be the new blue |
| 19:31.36 | Patrigan-Syldra | but the 2 last will disband |
| 19:31.45 | Tepetkhet | Nobody on our realm's killed Kel'Thuzad. |
| 19:31.46 | Hobinheim | and guild coalitions will be the new blue |
| 19:31.50 | Patrigan-Syldra | because atm many in their guild will leave again when their old guildies try a reform |
| 19:32.00 | Apollozeus | don't worry |
| 19:32.16 | Tepetkhet | I don't think any are even on Sapphiron. |
| 19:32.28 | Apollozeus | by the time the majority of wow's population has hit level 70, new guilds will have been formed |
| 19:32.35 | Patrigan-Syldra | Bleh, I couldn't care at all, I have been in Naxx, but pffft, it's all the same to me |
| 19:32.52 | Patrigan-Syldra | I for one know that I will have a cool new guild in the endgame |
| 19:32.57 | Patrigan-Syldra | new endgame* |
| 19:33.00 | Tepetkhet | I just want to down Onyxia before BC. |
| 19:33.05 | Patrigan-Syldra | A guild with only the 4 Healerclasses |
| 19:33.11 | Patrigan-Syldra | tep, what server? |
| 19:33.17 | Tepetkhet | Khaz Modan. |
| 19:33.21 | Patrigan-Syldra | hmm |
| 19:33.26 | Patrigan-Syldra | doesn't rin an immediate bell |
| 19:33.33 | Tepetkhet | It's a year old. |
| 19:33.38 | Tepetkhet | PvE |
| 19:33.39 | Patrigan-Syldra | May I advice aking an Onyxia PUG through the forums? |
| 19:33.41 | Tepetkhet | CST |
| 19:33.44 | Tepetkhet | no |
| 19:33.50 | Patrigan-Syldra | no? oO |
| 19:33.56 | Tepetkhet | 1st, there aren't really Ony PuGs on our server. |
| 19:33.59 | Patrigan-Syldra | PUGs work pretty well these days |
| 19:34.01 | Tepetkhet | 2nd, I want our GUILD to down Ony. |
| 19:34.04 | Patrigan-Syldra | try it! |
| 19:34.07 | Patrigan-Syldra | XD |
| 19:34.09 | Apollozeus | what does it matter? |
| 19:34.15 | Patrigan-Syldra | well Apollozeus |
| 19:34.16 | Tepetkhet | Group accomplishment. |
| 19:34.25 | Patrigan-Syldra | I for one know thta I will return to Naxx at lvl 70 |
| 19:34.29 | Patrigan-Syldra | just to down those bosses |
| 19:34.36 | Patrigan-Syldra | that I haven't killed yet |
| 19:34.37 | Apollozeus | Patrigan-Syldra |
| 19:34.38 | Kirkburn|afk | Adys, what a Bcarticle? :) |
| 19:34.44 | Tepetkhet | A sense of community. |
| 19:34.45 | Apollozeus | I was referring to <Tepetkhet> 2nd, I want our GUILD to down Ony. |
| 19:34.50 | Patrigan-Syldra | Tepetkhet |
| 19:34.51 | Tepetkhet | Teamwork. |
| 19:34.57 | Patrigan-Syldra | our realm is a community |
| 19:34.59 | Tepetkhet | We did this. |
| 19:35.00 | Adys | kirkburn|afk: difference beetween bc, BC, Bcarticle and Bc-inline |
| 19:35.12 | Tepetkhet | WoW is a community, too. |
| 19:35.13 | Tepetkhet | So? |
| 19:35.22 | equiraptor | Tep's done a lot for her guild. |
| 19:35.30 | Tepetkhet | I'm an officer and a recruiter. |
| 19:35.36 | equiraptor | She'd like to see it make good progress. |
| 19:35.41 | Tepetkhet | yeah |
| 19:36.02 | Tepetkhet | Like getting your team to the Stanley Cup or the Superbowl. |
| 19:36.07 | Patrigan-Syldra | I understand that though |
| 19:36.12 | Patrigan-Syldra | however, without any offense |
| 19:36.17 | Patrigan-Syldra | but it'll be hard to down her |
| 19:36.19 | *** join/#wowwiki Bagginsww (n=Valiento@adsl-69-225-0-102.dsl.skt2ca.pacbell.net) |
| 19:36.35 | Patrigan-Syldra | many players want to have something hard to hold |
| 19:36.40 | Patrigan-Syldra | something purple |
| 19:36.43 | Patrigan-Syldra | that they can use |
| 19:36.43 | Tepetkhet | I know she's not cake for noobs. |
| 19:36.51 | Patrigan-Syldra | pfffft. |
| 19:36.53 | Bagginsww | has anyone finished ROTH in here? |
| 19:37.00 | Patrigan-Syldra | you just need to get things right |
| 19:37.04 | Tepetkhet | yeah |
| 19:37.05 | Patrigan-Syldra | all 40 players |
| 19:37.13 | Patrigan-Syldra | and therein lies the problem |
| 19:37.17 | Bagginsww | I heard that the book describes velen as having "alabaster skin"? |
| 19:37.17 | Tepetkhet | Teamwork. |
| 19:37.22 | Patrigan-Syldra | if 1 person gets into the eggs |
| 19:37.25 | Patrigan-Syldra | you're back from 0 |
| 19:37.37 | Tepetkhet | MANY WHELPS! HANDLE it! |
| 19:37.39 | Bagginsww | what part? cause in the prologue he describes his skin as blue |
| 19:37.40 | Tepetkhet | heh |
| 19:38.01 | *** join/#wowwiki amro (n=amro@82.101.184.183) |
| 19:38.03 | Kirkburn|afk | I suggest we deprecate this: http://www.wowwiki.com/Template:BC |
| 19:38.03 | Patrigan-Syldra | XD |
| 19:38.13 | Patrigan-Syldra | Tepetkhet without any offence, if only that worked :p |
| 19:38.16 | Patrigan-Syldra | don't forget |
| 19:38.20 | Patrigan-Syldra | they wiped that try :p |
| 19:38.24 | Tepetkhet | I know. |
| 19:38.28 | Tepetkhet | I just think it's funny. |
| 19:38.32 | Patrigan-Syldra | XD |
| 19:38.38 | Patrigan-Syldra | Well, I used to yell it at my members :p |
| 19:38.54 | Patrigan-Syldra | <= was a raid leader and a tactician leader |
| 19:39.10 | *** join/#wowwiki Lutero (n=Murloc@195.190.172.96) |
| 19:39.42 | Tepetkhet | I'm just a VERY involved officer. |
| 19:39.50 | Patrigan-Syldra | no offense |
| 19:39.50 | Tepetkhet | I helped pick these noobs. |
| 19:39.53 | Apollozeus | <Patrigan-Syldra> <= was a raid leader and a tactician leader <-- 50 DKP MINUS! |
| 19:40.03 | Patrigan-Syldra | but that sounds like you have a relation with the GL >.> |
| 19:40.07 | Tepetkhet | Put a lot of time and effort into assembling the team, as it were. |
| 19:40.09 | Lutero | hi |
| 19:40.14 | Patrigan-Syldra | hi Lutero :) |
| 19:40.14 | amro | lol Patrigan-Syldra |
| 19:40.17 | Gryphen | heya |
| 19:40.18 | Tepetkhet | And in many cases, training them and helping them out. |
| 19:40.30 | Patrigan-Syldra | well, then you do the hardest part of a guild |
| 19:40.39 | Patrigan-Syldra | and then I understand why you want to do it with your guild |
| 19:40.40 | Tepetkhet | So I like to see them succeed. |
| 19:40.52 | Tepetkhet | And see "my boys" down bosses. |
| 19:41.01 | Patrigan-Syldra | I've did the same in my guild (as guild leader with 0 officers I trusted exceptfor my cousin and best friend) |
| 19:41.12 | Tepetkhet | heh |
| 19:41.12 | Patrigan-Syldra | but it's hard work |
| 19:41.15 | Tepetkhet | yeah |
| 19:41.17 | Tepetkhet | Unpaid job. |
| 19:41.20 | Tepetkhet | Lots of stress. |
| 19:41.24 | Patrigan-Syldra | and essentially, in the end |
| 19:41.36 | Patrigan-Syldra | not very rewarding excet for the feel that you learned them how to fucking play! ^^ |
| 19:41.49 | Tepetkhet | Hah, well... |
| 19:42.00 | Patrigan-Syldra | but that's a great feeling |
| 19:42.01 | Tepetkhet | I leave most of that to the raid leaders and class leaders. |
| 19:42.11 | Patrigan-Syldra | lucky you >.> |
| 19:42.18 | Patrigan-Syldra | I did all that myself :p |
| 19:42.18 | Tepetkhet | But I try to help keep it all together. |
| 19:42.26 | Patrigan-Syldra | eventually I got myself a greeat officer team though |
| 19:42.33 | Tepetkhet | And a lot of the recruits come to me first. |
| 19:42.41 | Patrigan-Syldra | well, golden rule |
| 19:42.42 | amro | in one raiding guild I was in some hunter kept giving me bad advice in a rude way, like this is the last time i tell you to do this |
| 19:42.45 | Tepetkhet | Some of them think/thought I was the GM. heh |
| 19:43.02 | amro | i can't stand incompetent leaders |
| 19:43.02 | Patrigan-Syldra | make sure thta recruits visit forum and very often |
| 19:43.08 | Patrigan-Syldra | amro |
| 19:43.11 | Apollozeus | <amro> in one raiding guild I was in some hunter kept giving me bad advice in a rude way, like this is the last time i tell you to do this <-- wan ist invites to bolton moor? |
| 19:43.29 | Patrigan-Syldra | competent leaders are as rare as players who have 10k g, without buying ^^ |
| 19:43.39 | Tepetkhet | hahaha |
| 19:43.59 | amro | at least they should accept the fact that someone else might know better |
| 19:44.05 | Patrigan-Syldra | I dare to say I was competent, because all my members are mad atm that I rerolled alliance ^^ |
| 19:44.12 | Patrigan-Syldra | amro |
| 19:44.12 | Tepetkhet | noooo |
| 19:44.17 | Patrigan-Syldra | that's the ahrdest part of leading |
| 19:44.25 | Patrigan-Syldra | if people tell you you're wrong |
| 19:44.29 | Patrigan-Syldra | you start doubting yourself |
| 19:44.31 | amro | dammit in AQ20 they forced me to melee stingers even though they dont charge past 20yd |
| 19:44.35 | Patrigan-Syldra | it's not easy to withstand that |
| 19:44.44 | Patrigan-Syldra | LOL? oO |
| 19:45.20 | Tepetkhet | You can't hold aggro on them...and they charge around. |
| 19:45.20 | Patrigan-Syldra | I took a whole week off school just to make sure I understood every encounter in BWL, both thrash and Bosses |
| 19:45.20 | amro | Patrigan-Syldra: when somone tells you no this event is easier this way, does that make you doubt yourself? we're all still learning |
| 19:45.22 | Tepetkhet | We burh them down so fast now that it's not an issue. |
| 19:45.27 | Patrigan-Syldra | amro |
| 19:45.31 | amro | Tepetkhet: they don't charge past a certain range |
| 19:45.35 | Tepetkhet | s/burh/burn/ |
| 19:45.40 | Patrigan-Syldra | I'm the kind of player who tends to be very stubborn |
| 19:45.46 | amro | but i still got yelled at on vent for no reason |
| 19:45.46 | Patrigan-Syldra | though, I learned my lesson |
| 19:46.00 | Patrigan-Syldra | 9 tries on Neffy with my AoE all at the same time tactic |
| 19:46.02 | Patrigan-Syldra | and we failed |
| 19:46.08 | Patrigan-Syldra | 1 try with split groups and he went down XD |
| 19:46.16 | Patrigan-Syldra | so, yeah, I do listen |
| 19:46.33 | Patrigan-Syldra | and Tepetkhet |
| 19:46.41 | Patrigan-Syldra | the 20man are burned down fast |
| 19:46.46 | Patrigan-Syldra | but the stronger aq40 version |
| 19:46.48 | Patrigan-Syldra | aren't |
| 19:46.48 | Lutero | !afk |
| 19:46.55 | Patrigan-Syldra | and they are slightly stronger |
| 19:47.04 | Patrigan-Syldra | (with a slightly sarcastic slightly) |
| 19:48.11 | Patrigan-Syldra | as said, I take weeks to study each single encounter |
| 19:48.14 | Patrigan-Syldra | get to learn their HP |
| 19:48.26 | Patrigan-Syldra | do death runs in instances to test out a few mobs that I can access |
| 19:48.35 | Patrigan-Syldra | stuff like that |
| 19:48.56 | Patrigan-Syldra | when you eventually down something, it's rewarding |
| 19:48.59 | Patrigan-Syldra | however Tepetkhet |
| 19:49.12 | Patrigan-Syldra | may I advise you to start checking who you will keep in BC and who you won't? |
| 19:49.55 | amro | i've had enough of pve |
| 19:49.58 | amro | no stress relief |
| 19:50.01 | Tepetkhet | Attendance records help with that. |
| 19:50.03 | amro | that's part of why i play games |
| 19:50.06 | Patrigan-Syldra | Tepetkhet |
| 19:50.16 | Patrigan-Syldra | attendance is not everything though... |
| 19:50.18 | Tepetkhet | We're low enough population that we probably won't be trimming. |
| 19:50.24 | Tepetkhet | 83 unique accounts. |
| 19:50.46 | Tepetkhet | We have been a very relaxed guild. |
| 19:50.49 | amro | around 300 unique accounts in my guild =) |
| 19:50.50 | jrr | that's enough to field three 25-man groups if there's high attendance |
| 19:51.00 | Patrigan-Syldra | well it all depends on how you guild ran |
| 19:51.06 | Tepetkhet | We barely field a full 40 on a good night. |
| 19:51.43 | jrr | so if the same ~40 sign on later in BC that makes a 25-man group and ~15 unhappy campers |
| 19:51.54 | Tepetkhet | Hey, it happens right now. |
| 19:52.03 | Patrigan-Syldra | that's sad :( |
| 19:52.06 | Tepetkhet | We have 30 people online and the GM decides he wants to do a 20-man. |
| 19:52.14 | Patrigan-Syldra | >< |
| 19:52.16 | Patrigan-Syldra | GO ONYXIA |
| 19:52.22 | Tepetkhet | We don't have enough attuned. |
| 19:52.25 | Tepetkhet | For Ony. |
| 19:52.29 | Patrigan-Syldra | aw :< |
| 19:52.33 | Tepetkhet | Still working on it. |
| 19:52.34 | Patrigan-Syldra | that's sad :( |
| 19:52.42 | Patrigan-Syldra | nah, forget it then tep |
| 19:52.46 | Tepetkhet | heh |
| 19:52.50 | jrr | i don't think i'll likely ever commit to a raiding schedule |
| 19:52.51 | Patrigan-Syldra | you have 8 days to get people attuned |
| 19:52.59 | Tepetkhet | I am not going to give up. |
| 19:53.02 | Tepetkhet | Never ever. |
| 19:53.03 | jrr | my playing times are too random |
| 19:53.10 | Patrigan-Syldra | in 8 days, you can forget it |
| 19:53.10 | Tepetkhet | You know what happens when I don't give up? |
| 19:53.20 | Tepetkhet | We took down Garr for the first time. |
| 19:53.27 | Tepetkhet | Our MT died and I freakin' evasion tanked. |
| 19:53.32 | Tepetkhet | <-- rogue |
| 19:53.41 | Patrigan-Syldra | Evasion tank |
| 19:53.45 | Tepetkhet | NEVER EVER give up. |
| 19:53.47 | Patrigan-Syldra | we did that for a while at Neffy |
| 19:53.50 | Tepetkhet | I was up for about 2 minutes. |
| 19:53.56 | Patrigan-Syldra | we wiped though >< |
| 19:53.59 | Tepetkhet | Enough time for them to battle rez the MT and heal him. |
| 19:54.09 | Tepetkhet | He picked up Garr again just as I died. |
| 19:54.16 | Tepetkhet | And we downed him. |
| 19:54.17 | Tepetkhet | :) |
| 19:54.20 | Patrigan-Syldra | ! |
| 19:54.25 | Patrigan-Syldra | we downed Garr easily |
| 19:54.30 | Patrigan-Syldra | but we had 7 locks in that raid >.> |
| 19:54.41 | Patrigan-Syldra | and I happen to be a lock (or rather I was) |
| 19:54.47 | Patrigan-Syldra | so I had full control over them |
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| 19:55.07 | Tepetkhet | Hm, I think we only had 3 locks. |
| 19:55.10 | Patrigan-Syldra | so yeah, that made Garr ez |
| 19:55.25 | Patrigan-Syldra | for first kills, I always try to create a team who wuld be perfect for the kill |
| 19:55.30 | Tepetkhet | I never give up until we're all eating dirt. |
| 19:55.30 | Tepetkhet | heh |
| 19:55.34 | Patrigan-Syldra | for our first Raggy kill |
| 19:55.43 | Patrigan-Syldra | I left most of the melee at hołme and brought a lot of caster |
| 19:55.51 | Patrigan-Syldra | melee loses too much with the knockback |
| 19:56.00 | Patrigan-Syldra | while casters can still cast their instants while flying XD |
| 19:56.01 | Tepetkhet | That's why even though I'm just a rogue, I have the whole raid out on my screen. |
| 19:56.21 | Patrigan-Syldra | <= same |
| 19:56.35 | Hobinheim | how does one evasion tank |
| 19:56.40 | Hobinheim | you're not causing threat |
| 19:56.44 | Hobinheim | you're just kinda... stadning there |
| 19:56.51 | Patrigan-Syldra | Hobinheim |
| 19:56.58 | Patrigan-Syldra | a good geared Rogue |
| 19:57.07 | Hobinheim | i'm pretty sure besides stacking evasion, there are zero threat generation things in a rogue's talent tree. abilities, i'm not sure |
| 19:57.10 | Patrigan-Syldra | can outthreat many classes |
| 19:57.12 | Tepetkhet | Hobinheim: 1) Roll a rogue. 2) Pull aggro. 3) Hit evasion. 4) Stabby. |
| 19:57.25 | Hobinheim | what's evasion? lol rogue ignorance ahoy |
| 19:57.30 | Patrigan-Syldra | XD |
| 19:57.30 | Tepetkhet | 50% dodge |
| 19:57.35 | Patrigan-Syldra | what she said |
| 19:57.46 | Hobinheim | crazy |
| 19:57.49 | Patrigan-Syldra | idd |
| 19:57.56 | Tepetkhet | 3) Hit evasion and watch the boss miss landing almost every shot. |
| 19:58.02 | Patrigan-Syldra | and add to that |
| 19:58.08 | amro | a good rogue can have 80-90% dodge with the proper talents |
| 19:58.12 | Hobinheim | do rogues have +threat anywhere? |
| 19:58.12 | amro | and evasion |
| 19:58.16 | Hobinheim | aside from raw dmg? |
| 19:58.19 | Tepetkhet | We stab. |
| 19:58.20 | amro | they have -threat |
| 19:58.21 | Patrigan-Syldra | She prolly didn't use any threat reduciing abilites (like most rogues SHOULD do on bosses) |
| 19:58.23 | Tepetkhet | Or slice. |
| 19:58.36 | Tepetkhet | Patrigan-Syldra: I use feint like a good little rogue. |
| 19:58.38 | Hobinheim | -threat = dps class. +threat = tanking opportunity |
| 19:58.44 | Patrigan-Syldra | not while you were tanking :p |
| 19:58.47 | Patrigan-Syldra | Hobinheim |
| 19:58.48 | Tepetkhet | ANd USUALLY do not pull aggro until half the raid's dead. |
| 19:58.52 | Hobinheim | like by warlocks have searing pain, i'm not sure other than i like being different |
| 19:58.55 | Patrigan-Syldra | if warriors don't use their threat abilities |
| 19:58.59 | Hobinheim | *by = why |
| 19:59.03 | Patrigan-Syldra | a rogue can stay above them in thereat |
| 19:59.13 | Hobinheim | well. duh =P |
| 19:59.15 | Hobinheim | dps class |
| 19:59.21 | Tepetkhet | I know how to watch my aggro. |
| 19:59.32 | Patrigan-Syldra | warlocks do their best to watch it |
| 19:59.38 | Patrigan-Syldra | but they have 0 threat reducing abilities |
| 19:59.48 | Patrigan-Syldra | forcing them to lower their DPS XD |
| 19:59.54 | Patrigan-Syldra | luckily blizz fixed that now ^^ |
| 20:00.06 | Tepetkhet | I am actually a weak rogue. |
| 20:00.10 | Tepetkhet | As far as DPS goes. |
| 20:00.26 | Tepetkhet | I have low frames per second and I'm a backstab rogue. |
| 20:00.33 | Patrigan-Syldra | XD |
| 20:00.34 | Tepetkhet | So positioning is often hard for me. |
| 20:00.46 | Patrigan-Syldra | I'm a tak drood now ^^ |
| 20:00.47 | Tepetkhet | 3 fps...try to find a mob's back. |
| 20:00.48 | Tepetkhet | heh |
| 20:00.50 | Patrigan-Syldra | <3 it |
| 20:00.53 | Tepetkhet | tak? |
| 20:01.20 | Patrigan-Syldra | tank* |
| 20:01.22 | Patrigan-Syldra | sry ^^ |
| 20:01.25 | Tepetkhet | ahhh |
| 20:01.26 | Patrigan-Syldra | bearform |
| 20:01.44 | Tepetkhet | 2.0 has really helped us embrace our feral druids again. |
| 20:01.56 | Tepetkhet | I love having them in the raids now. |
| 20:02.28 | Tepetkhet | Most of the time, they are nice and will pass on obvious "rogue gear" for rogues with high attendance. |
| 20:02.57 | Patrigan-Syldra | well |
| 20:02.59 | Hobinheim | ugh hello |
| 20:03.01 | Hobinheim | warlock ignorance |
| 20:03.03 | Patrigan-Syldra | rogues should go for AP gear |
| 20:03.08 | Hobinheim | master demonologist imp buff |
| 20:03.10 | Tepetkhet | But I don't feel bad when they win something nice that I could use. |
| 20:03.11 | Patrigan-Syldra | whil droods should go for agility and str gear |
| 20:03.15 | Patrigan-Syldra | mostly str |
| 20:03.30 | Tepetkhet | agi agi agi |
| 20:03.31 | Hobinheim | md reduces a warlock's threat by a % |
| 20:03.44 | Tepetkhet | agi to my boots |
| 20:03.45 | Lutero | what are you speaking about? |
| 20:03.47 | Tepetkhet | agi to my gloves |
| 20:03.51 | Tepetkhet | agi to my offhand |
| 20:03.56 | Hobinheim | agi to your moms, hehehe |
| 20:04.01 | Tepetkhet | I'm a mom. |
| 20:04.04 | Patrigan-Syldra | XD |
| 20:04.10 | Patrigan-Syldra | owned Hobinheim |
| 20:04.10 | Tepetkhet | Lifestealing on my MH. |
| 20:04.10 | Tepetkhet | heh |
| 20:04.20 | Patrigan-Syldra | and Hobinheim |
| 20:04.33 | Patrigan-Syldra | why take a tree with a threat reduction that lowers your DPS |
| 20:04.41 | Patrigan-Syldra | so, you get lower DPS and lower threat |
| 20:04.51 | Tepetkhet | heh |
| 20:04.51 | Patrigan-Syldra | but, again, they fixed that now |
| 20:04.55 | Hobinheim | demonology doesn't lower your dmg, what are you smoking |
| 20:05.09 | Tepetkhet | Kinda like me when I was a subtlety/ass rogue. |
| 20:05.09 | Patrigan-Syldra | not anymore no |
| 20:05.09 | Tepetkhet | I had much lower threat. |
| 20:05.09 | Patrigan-Syldra | but it used to do that XD |
| 20:05.11 | Tepetkhet | But I also sucked so bad. |
| 20:05.17 | Tepetkhet | Didn't do much damage. |
| 20:05.22 | Patrigan-Syldra | Tepetkhet |
| 20:05.25 | Patrigan-Syldra | no offense |
| 20:05.31 | Patrigan-Syldra | but the sentence you are writing |
| 20:05.36 | Patrigan-Syldra | are so fast misunderstood |
| 20:05.40 | Tepetkhet | I know. |
| 20:05.53 | Patrigan-Syldra | You have a subtle ass, but you suck bad :< |
| 20:06.05 | jrr | a subtle ass? |
| 20:06.10 | Tepetkhet | yup |
| 20:06.14 | Patrigan-Syldra | XD |
| 20:06.23 | Patrigan-Syldra | >< |
| 20:06.37 | Patrigan-Syldra | let's not go further into that subject shall |
| 20:06.38 | Tepetkhet | Double entendre ftw |
| 20:06.39 | Patrigan-Syldra | we |
| 20:07.24 | Patrigan-Syldra | let us try to behave like grown-ups :p |
| 20:08.17 | Tepetkhet | Alright, alright...I'll try to behave. |
| 20:08.30 | Patrigan-Syldra | though, that brings us to the common sentence, which one of the girls in my guild made me kick a person for... |
| 20:08.33 | Patrigan-Syldra | Are you hot? |
| 20:09.03 | Tepetkhet | Depends on your definition. |
| 20:09.09 | Tepetkhet | Some think I am. |
| 20:09.09 | Patrigan-Syldra | Good answer oO |
| 20:09.46 | Hobinheim | ever play final fantasy v? |
| 20:09.49 | Patrigan-Syldra | yup |
| 20:09.54 | Patrigan-Syldra | played all FF |
| 20:10.06 | Tepetkhet | Nope. |
| 20:10.09 | Patrigan-Syldra | and I have nearly 7GB of music from them on my computer :< |
| 20:10.14 | Patrigan-Syldra | some refer to me as Geek :< |
| 20:10.19 | Patrigan-Syldra | I refer to me as Nerd >< |
| 20:10.26 | Tepetkhet | I played a little of the PS2 FFX-II or something. |
| 20:10.31 | Patrigan-Syldra | (nah I don't, but I do have the music) |
| 20:10.32 | jrr | we're in a world of warcraft IRC channel. i think it's safe to say we're *all* geeks. |
| 20:10.38 | Tepetkhet | The FF Dress-up game. |
| 20:10.48 | Patrigan-Syldra | you didn't like it? Tepetkhet? |
| 20:10.56 | Tepetkhet | heh |
| 20:10.59 | Tepetkhet | It was okay. |
| 20:11.07 | Tepetkhet | More interested in it for cosplay than gameplay. |
| 20:11.08 | Hobinheim | isn't syldra the name of faris's pet dragon? |
| 20:11.10 | Hobinheim | the one that powers the ship |
| 20:11.25 | Patrigan-Syldra | I always wondered where I fetched the name |
| 20:11.29 | Hobinheim | watch the kefka cosplay on youtube |
| 20:11.43 | Hobinheim | if kefka was made into real life, that's exactly what he would sound like |
| 20:11.44 | Patrigan-Syldra | it was somewhere in my mind when I was deciding the name for my droodle |
| 20:12.24 | Tepetkhet | I've seen some scary good FF cosplayers. |
| 20:12.36 | Patrigan-Syldra | ell, I loved the WoW cosplayers |
| 20:12.40 | Hobinheim | i dont' think i've met a cosplayer yet |
| 20:12.44 | Patrigan-Syldra | those who were wearing those armor sets |
| 20:12.44 | Hobinheim | i'm not sure if i want to |
| 20:12.48 | Tepetkhet | I haven't seen many good WoW cosplayers. |
| 20:12.48 | Patrigan-Syldra | XD |
| 20:13.06 | Patrigan-Syldra | WoW isn't hard to cosplay though |
| 20:13.15 | Tepetkhet | I've seen lots of crappy NE cosplayers. |
| 20:13.21 | Patrigan-Syldra | just be yourself with a WoW item set on |
| 20:14.31 | Tepetkhet | Best FF cosplayer I saw was an original design Lulu Moogle. She was all purple and white with that corset dress on and she had little purple wings on her shoulderblades and was carrying a Lulu doll. |
| 20:15.33 | Tepetkhet | http://members.cosplay.com/costume/33854/ |
| 20:15.36 | Tepetkhet | There she is... |
| 20:17.34 | Patrigan-Syldra | you know... |
| 20:17.43 | Patrigan-Syldra | she is kind of... |
| 20:17.48 | Patrigan-Syldra | Hot... |
| 20:17.49 | Patrigan-Syldra | >< |
| 20:18.11 | Tepetkhet | Not all cosplayers are scary. |
| 20:18.48 | Patrigan-Syldra | ofc they aren't |
| 20:18.55 | Patrigan-Syldra | but not all cosplayers are hot either XD |
| 20:19.06 | Tepetkhet | http://images.cosplay.com/gallery.php?member=36416 |
| 20:20.03 | Patrigan-Syldra | Good lord >.> that can't be healthy >< |
| 20:21.35 | Tepetkhet | What can't? |
| 20:21.53 | Patrigan-Syldra | that last picture >?> |
| 20:21.54 | Patrigan-Syldra | >.> |
| 20:22.01 | Patrigan-Syldra | those shoes |
| 20:22.21 | Tepetkhet | Oh, the foam platforms? |
| 20:22.44 | Tepetkhet | The soles are only a couple inches thick. They're safer/healthier than regular high heels. |
| 20:22.51 | Tepetkhet | And a hell of a lot more comfortable. |
| 20:22.53 | amro | http://images.cosplay.com/showphoto.php?photo=474240 |
| 20:22.55 | amro | they look bored |
| 20:23.10 | Tepetkhet | heh |
| 20:23.11 | Patrigan-Syldra | I always wanted to cosplay |
| 20:23.17 | Patrigan-Syldra | but I would just fail at it XD |
| 20:23.23 | amro | how can you be bored if you're wielding a sword? |
| 20:23.28 | Tepetkhet | A lot of times when people pose like that, you end up with a dozen people taking pics. |
| 20:23.31 | jrr | that rhymes! |
| 20:23.46 | Tepetkhet | And they walk by and go, "Oh, wait! Hold that a little longer..." |
| 20:23.52 | Tepetkhet | And they put their bags down... |
| 20:23.56 | Tepetkhet | And get out their cameras... |
| 20:24.00 | Patrigan-Syldra | XD |
| 20:24.03 | jrr | and your friend takes their bags |
| 20:24.03 | Tepetkhet | And 5 minutes later, they all take their pics. |
| 20:24.13 | Patrigan-Syldra | Tep, you are rather very experienced at it I hear :p |
| 20:24.55 | Patrigan-Syldra | brb |
| 20:25.11 | Tepetkhet | heh |
| 20:25.14 | Tepetkhet | As an example... |
| 20:25.15 | Tepetkhet | http://www.niceboots.com/~tenebrae/pics/Otakon2005/MyCosplay/images/PowerfulFinishingMove.jpg |
| 20:25.32 | Tepetkhet | We did that pose and I literally had to close my eyes for 5 minutes while the flashes went off. |
| 20:25.44 | Tepetkhet | Poor Junpei's girlfriend was getting unhappy. |
| 20:26.09 | Tepetkhet | Such...Powerful Finishing Move... |
| 20:30.22 | Tepetkhet | I haven't done any cosplay in a year... |
| 20:30.44 | Tepetkhet | In related news, I have been playing WoW for just over 1 year. |
| 20:30.45 | Tepetkhet | heh |
| 20:31.26 | jrr | ditto |
| 20:31.51 | jrr | but it's lost it's grasp on me; i'm not hooked anymore |
| 20:33.06 | Tepetkhet | I am! |
| 20:33.22 | Tepetkhet | I took my time. |
| 20:33.26 | Patrigan-Syldra | XD |
| 20:33.56 | Tepetkhet | Didn't kill our first raid boss until 08/29/2006 |
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| 20:35.41 | Patrigan-Syldra | sec gonna play a round of cards |
| 20:35.53 | jrr | what game? |
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| 20:51.01 | Patrigan-Syldra | WoW what else? :) |
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| 21:08.51 | Kirkburn|afk | http://www.wowwiki.com/Main_Page ^^ |
| 21:10.49 | Adys | that was my idea kirk! |
| 21:11.01 | Kirkburn|afk | Was it now ... |
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| 21:11.10 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Adys :| |
| 21:11.29 | Kirkburn|afk | lol |
| 21:11.39 | Kirkburn|afk | I thought about linking there |
| 21:11.52 | Adys | they should pay us for this ;P |
| 21:12.35 | Kirkburn|afk | Done more updates here, still needs more work though tbh - http://www.wowwiki.com/Help:Contents |
| 21:12.53 | Kirkburn|afk | omg bold omg |
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| 21:17.50 | Zeal | Kirkburn|afk, what happened to the old-edit border? :( |
| 21:17.59 | Zeal | now just a thick line down the left |
| 21:18.09 | Kirkburn|afk | It broke FF2 |
| 21:18.18 | Kirkburn|afk | Made the whole frame unclickable :/ |
| 21:18.26 | Zeal | stupid FF2.. |
| 21:18.29 | Zeal | fair enough |
| 21:18.30 | Kirkburn|afk | mmm |
| 21:19.18 | Adys | Kirkburn|afk: what do you mean? |
| 21:19.29 | Adys | the editing old version thing? |
| 21:20.54 | Kirkburn|afk | Why are you asking me! I'm the 'afk' one :P |
| 21:21.01 | Kirkburn|afk | When you edit an old version, yeah |
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| 21:24.15 | Zeal | lol |
| 21:24.27 | Zeal | i realized soemthing last night |
| 21:24.49 | Bagginsww | Kirk are you really afk? |
| 21:24.51 | Zeal | Mother Geyah is roughly 200 years old. that's not possible for an orc. |
| 21:25.00 | Kirkburn|afk | Bagginsww, well duh! :) |
| 21:25.10 | Bagginsww | Just making sure you are here ;) |
| 21:25.28 | Bagginsww | remember we were discussing stone flesh? |
| 21:25.51 | Adys | kirkburn|afk, you here? |
| 21:25.52 | Adys | :P |
| 21:26.10 | Kirkburn|afk | No. |
| 21:26.13 | Kirkburn|afk | Bagginsww, yes ;) |
| 21:26.16 | Adys | Anyways |
| 21:26.21 | Adys | what was the point of the old edit thing? |
| 21:26.29 | Bagginsww | well, I came across the phenomena happening to humans and gnomes too |
| 21:26.34 | Adys | im using ff2 so I guess I didnt see what it was about |
| 21:26.35 | Bagginsww | "sisters of steel" |
| 21:26.38 | Bagginsww | in APG |
| 21:26.56 | Bagginsww | I brought up a few facts about it in the Origin of hte races article. |
| 21:27.09 | Kirkburn|afk | Big warning ZOMG OLD STUFF YOU'RE GONNA DELETE STUFF BE CAREFUL!!!!!!!1111eleven stuff, Adys |
| 21:27.22 | Kirkburn|afk | Bagginsww, really? oooh |
| 21:27.24 | Adys | yeah but I mean what was it doing? |
| 21:27.45 | Bagginsww | http://www.wowwiki.com/Origin_of_the_races#The_creations_of_the_Titans |
| 21:28.21 | Bagginsww | It has possible ties to Khaz'goroth the Titan |
| 21:28.44 | Bagginsww | He may have the titan that created dwarves, gnomes and humans or at least their ancestors |
| 21:29.34 | Zeal | adys, basically, nedded a better warning for when editing an old version of a page |
| 21:29.40 | Zeal | the header is easily missed |
| 21:29.45 | Adys | ok |
| 21:29.48 | Zeal | so, i proposed a border to the edit window |
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| 21:37.48 | jrr | Zeal: i could easily miss that too. what about changing the color of the text field, and the text on the submit button |
| 21:38.43 | Zeal | you can't miss a border.. it takes up the whole screen :S |
| 21:38.53 | Zeal | you'll always see it where ever you are |
| 21:39.07 | jrr | it's visible, yes |
| 21:39.12 | jrr | and also very ignorable |
| 21:39.23 | Patrigan-Syldra | Say guys |
| 21:39.25 | Patrigan-Syldra | just wonderin |
| 21:39.27 | Zeal | it's not present on any other page, so not really |
| 21:39.40 | Patrigan-Syldra | nyone care to cretae a bot to upload all Card pictures? >.> |
| 21:39.41 | jrr | got a mockup online? |
| 21:39.51 | Patrigan-Syldra | don't think I can get the scripting done XD |
| 21:39.55 | jrr | Patrigan-Syldra: if you have all the images, i'd take a stab at it |
| 21:40.03 | Zeal | well do we have pics of all cards? lol |
| 21:40.17 | Patrigan-Syldra | I can fetch them XD |
| 21:40.25 | Patrigan-Syldra | or we can just ninja them from their site >.> |
| 21:40.35 | Patrigan-Syldra | they have scans of all pictures ^^ |
| 21:41.01 | Patrigan-Syldra | nah, but I can get good quality scans normally |
| 21:41.37 | Zeal | they do? cool |
| 21:41.52 | Patrigan-Syldra | yeah |
| 21:41.58 | Patrigan-Syldra | though |
| 21:42.06 | Patrigan-Syldra | don't know if that's allowed -_- |
| 21:42.11 | Zeal | thats un usual for TCG afaik, tend not to do it because you're get pricks making fakes and selling them. |
| 21:42.19 | Zeal | *-un |
| 21:44.19 | Patrigan-Syldra | well |
| 21:44.31 | Patrigan-Syldra | you don't need their page for that |
| 21:44.36 | Patrigan-Syldra | zillions of pages to get them from |
| 21:44.41 | Patrigan-Syldra | in great quality even |
| 21:44.58 | Patrigan-Syldra | so, in essence, it's a bit silly to not do it for that reason |
| 21:49.51 | Apollozeus | I concur |
| 21:50.00 | Apollozeus | those pricks will exist anyhow |
| 21:51.34 | Patrigan-Syldra | pricks that take it from theirs? |
| 21:51.36 | Patrigan-Syldra | perhaps |
| 21:51.46 | Patrigan-Syldra | though, pricks exist also when taking it from other sites... |
| 21:51.54 | Patrigan-Syldra | so they prolly couldn't care less ^^ |
| 21:52.05 | Patrigan-Syldra | Either way, cards are up on their sites |
| 21:52.11 | Patrigan-Syldra | so we can ninja them |
| 21:54.32 | Apollozeus | Patrigan-Syldra |
| 21:54.38 | Apollozeus | /roll for them first :p |
| 21:57.05 | Zeal | ofc they will exist, just making it easier for them is all :P |
| 21:57.51 | Patrigan-Syldra | ./roll |
| 21:59.02 | Patrigan-Syldra | we need a roll bot command imo! |
| 21:59.10 | Patrigan-Syldra | couldn't do /roll |
| 22:00.43 | Patrigan-Syldra | nah, but anyways |
| 22:00.56 | Patrigan-Syldra | who is capable of scripting a bot for uploading all files? |
| 22:01.16 | Patrigan-Syldra | don't really feel like uploading 400+ files (and after a while another 340) |
| 22:02.33 | Patrigan-Syldra | I'll take the silence as a "do it yourself, lazy bum" |
| 22:02.36 | Patrigan-Syldra | >.> |
| 22:02.39 | Apollozeus | Patrigan-Syldra |
| 22:02.54 | Apollozeus | try hobinheim |
| 22:03.14 | Apollozeus | he loves his bot |
| 22:03.20 | Patrigan-Syldra | cyaz! |
| 22:03.25 | Patrigan-Syldra | bah wrong channel |
| 22:03.32 | Zeal | you can do !roll 6d6 or !roll 1-100 btw ;) |
| 22:03.49 | Patrigan-Syldra | !roll 1-100 |
| 22:03.49 | Zeal | Patrigan-Syldra rolled a 99 |
| 22:03.58 | Patrigan-Syldra | cool |
| 22:04.02 | Patrigan-Syldra | and see no rollhax! |
| 22:04.07 | Patrigan-Syldra | didn't roll 100 |
| 22:04.14 | Zeal | indeed, gg |
| 22:05.06 | Patrigan-Syldra | perhaps I should annoy hobinheim... |
| 22:05.15 | jrr | i like that game! |
| 22:05.47 | Zeal | bah, obvious i wouldn't beat 99 :P |
| 22:06.14 | jrr | once upon a time in guild wars they had to disallow /roll in town because people opened 'casino' services |
| 22:07.11 | Patrigan-Syldra | XD |
| 22:08.44 | Zeal | well they did that in wow |
| 22:08.52 | Zeal | was gone quickly, lol |
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| 22:09.50 | Patrigan-Syldra | ^^ |
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| 22:10.41 | Bagginsww | LOL, so Thrall means slave in Common, as it does in the english language as well. |
| 22:11.00 | amro | i thought it meant BAMF |
| 22:11.15 | Bagginsww | More evidence that Common is a strange mix of real world words with original fictional words. |
| 22:11.51 | amro | bur |
| 22:12.51 | amro | wiktionary: 3. A person who is forced to perform sexual acts or other acts on a regular or continuing basis against their will. |
| 22:12.55 | Bagginsww | bur doesn't have an official definition now |
| 22:13.02 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 22:13.10 | amro | no wonder thrall hates humans |
| 22:13.29 | Tepetkhet | heh |
| 22:13.46 | Bagginsww | If that's true it adds another level of scummy ness to old Blackmoore |
| 22:13.48 | Tepetkhet | Home soon...later |
| 22:14.16 | amro | i want to play that cancelled adventure gam |
| 22:14.23 | amro | s/gam/game/ |
| 22:15.31 | Bagginsww | don't we all |
| 22:15.51 | Bagginsww | I wish someone had the alpha or whatever and could piece it together with AGS |
| 22:15.51 | Apollozeus | amro, you'll need to have some blizzard employee leaking it first |
| 22:16.23 | Bagginsww | only problem is we have a handful of official screenshots, and character models |
| 22:16.31 | Bagginsww | but not the script |
| 22:16.42 | Bagginsww | while we could base something off the novel |
| 22:16.52 | Bagginsww | it lacks a few key scenes that were going to be in the game |
| 22:17.17 | amro | i was thinking it might turn out to be a warcraft-style monkey island |
| 22:17.21 | Zeal | eg. what the hell is deathwing doing in it :P |
| 22:17.25 | Bagginsww | LOL |
| 22:18.05 | Bagginsww | deathwing, and Gazlow |
| 22:18.48 | Bagginsww | at least I don't remember if Gazlowe is in the novel or not |
| 22:19.08 | Bagginsww | but I have a screenshot of him in art of warcraft |
| 22:19.28 | Bagginsww | apparently a death knight was going to be in it too.. is that in the book? |
| 22:21.00 | Bagginsww | One screenshot shows a warcraft II style temple of the damned. |
| 22:21.38 | Bagginsww | ahh, here is a picture of Zul'jin |
| 22:22.54 | Bagginsww | Ya, I'd love to know the original storyline |
| 22:25.20 | Bagginsww | I have a copy of the trailor somewhere |
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| 22:28.26 | amro | http://www.wowwiki.com/Bleeding_Hollow |
| 22:28.29 | amro | worst name for a clan |
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| 22:51.09 | Zeal | lol amro_ |
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| 23:15.51 | Hobinheim | paging admin |
| 23:18.48 | Gryphen | :o |
| 23:21.20 | Kirkburn|afk | yes? |
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| 23:22.16 | [FUN]Herald | I'm looking for a guild on the windrunner server horde very new to WoW lvl 19 mage almost lvl 20 |
| 23:23.15 | Kirkburn|afk | Best to ask on the official forums for that |
| 23:23.43 | Kirkburn|afk | brb |
| 23:26.11 | Hobinheim | d'oh |
| 23:26.25 | Hobinheim | i was thinking at work today... |
| 23:26.31 | Hobinheim | the burning crusade is getting really close |
| 23:26.44 | Hobinheim | and some forum goers pointed out that the login servers are going to be hammered |
| 23:26.55 | Hobinheim | it made me think about the wiki... and how much increased traffic there will be |
| 23:27.04 | Hobinheim | like... an explosion of content is upon us |
| 23:27.12 | Hobinheim | i know bc has been public for a while, but not en masse |
| 23:27.20 | Hobinheim | i dunno. just thinking outloud |
| 23:27.28 | Hobinheim | or should i say, outland *snickers* |
| 23:28.12 | Zeal | yeah, the servers will probably cope exactly the same, it's the authentication server that's expected to fail, as it always has been the bottleneck of their setup. |
| 23:28.33 | Zeal | everyone tries to login at once, bam foums, account management and login down :P |
| 23:30.32 | Hobinheim | i think blizzard changed it so that the forums and realm login servers are different |
| 23:30.41 | Hobinheim | i could have sworn that was one of the features of their hardware upgrades |
| 23:30.49 | Hobinheim | so that people could continue to get information as the servers were down |
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| 23:31.08 | Hobinheim | thinking of how much processor power they have makes me dizzy |
| 23:31.19 | Hobinheim | dammit kirk you missed my whole spiel about the bc |
| 23:31.37 | Kirkburn | damn thing didn't rc properly |
| 23:31.45 | Kirkburn | copy paste in PM? |
| 23:31.51 | Hobinheim | oh and my bot shut off again |
| 23:31.55 | Hobinheim | it was at 2.1% |
| 23:32.00 | Hobinheim | i think that's enough |
| 23:32.05 | Hobinheim | the rest we'll just have to do when we see it |
| 23:32.24 | Hobinheim | i was just saying earlier how once the bc goes public, maybe we'll get more edits |
| 23:32.26 | Hobinheim | and more traffic |
| 23:32.35 | Hobinheim | i've seen random people cite wowwiki. makes me happy =) |
| 23:35.45 | Zeal | hehe, i see random people getting spat on for citing wowwiki ;) |
| 23:35.59 | Zeal | and yeah, i think they did change that with the setup |
| 23:36.22 | Zeal | but i'm fairly sure guild, server, characters can't be displayed/changed on the forums when the servers are down still : / |
| 23:37.47 | Kirkburn | I can understand the problem some people have with wowwiki, it's from the early days |
| 23:38.11 | Kirkburn | Same with cosmos, people continually dredge up the past to prove an (ignorant) point |
| 23:39.20 | Hobinheim | not sure what you mean w/ cosmos |
| 23:39.55 | Gryphen | means people dont comment on how Cosmos is today, they judge by what they saw 2 years ago |
| 23:45.53 | Kirkburn | Exactly, Gryphen :( |
| 23:48.42 | Zeal | indeed Kirkburn |
| 23:48.57 | Kirkburn | heh =) |
| 23:49.12 | Zeal | though in the wiki's case, they also don't commont of it's positive potential |
| 23:49.32 | Zeal | it is is improving, and it it's still got tons of ways to improve even more. |
| 23:49.42 | Kirkburn | On some lore forums, they've come around to quoting it now :) |
| 23:50.33 | Zeal | none i visit |
| 23:51.19 | Zeal | my general attitude is quote wowwiki, but don't use it as fact unless you've done the checking up yourself or it's clearly sourced so others can confirm it. |
| 23:51.45 | Kirkburn | yeah |
| 23:53.30 | Zeal | but yeah, it bothers me to see someone with sway promoting anti-wowwiki ideas. |
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