irclog2html for #wowwiki on 20061225

00:01.42KirkburnJust gone midnight, so now it's my turn .... Merry Xmas :)
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03:53.11Gryphenugh, please no parenthesis for region, when urlencoded they look horrendous, i personally dislike non-alphanumeric characters when they aren't needed. EU is obvious enough without needing to be (EU)
03:54.06Gryphenthe reason why servers are designated by US is because of Tinkerer, US servers used to have no designation but he thought to be 'fair' servers that had both US and EU names should have a disambig page.
03:55.57Grypheni just went through and sorted every single server, and it already isnt good enough?
04:30.33[Zeal]granted about urlencode, but correct, it isn't good enough. but it isn't limited to servers.
04:36.35[Zeal]The region coe shouldn't be in part of the page title, it should show that it's disambiguation. Server:<servname>/<regioncode> doesn't work, as that shoudl be for page splits (when not in user namespace), Server:<servname> - <regioncode> makes a bit of sense, but is longer, Server:<servname> (EU) is shorter and easier to type imo and the url encode is auto, so doesn't really effect anything. i'm open to the last two really,
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06:29.06RuanOn the Aldor vs. Scryers page none of the blacksmiths plans pages are created yet. Perhaps I could do that.
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06:59.36Tekkubis there a way to rotate text 90deg in CSS somehow?
06:59.37Tekkubhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Aldor_vs._Scryer#Inscriptions
06:59.50TekkubI want those left-side headers vertical
07:31.36RuanI'm sitting in the beta right now, if I were to pull data from the plans and such, someone else could format them to look all nice like the other crafting sets?
07:31.53RuanI'm still new at this heh.
07:41.19RuanI made the formatting uniform between all the professions
07:50.46RuanIt seems that shadowbane has been renamed to flamebane in reference to the armorsmithing plans as of the latest push
08:45.54RuanArrugh! templates everywhere!
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09:43.47Apollozeus:D happy winter vale guys
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12:34.11foxlitSomeone should take a look at the {{t}} references in Template:Battle
12:34.26foxlitLooks like a failed attempt at conditionals, but I'd rather not touch them at the moment.
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14:54.41Industrialwell whaddaya know
14:55.38Industrialso um, http://www.wowwiki.com/Hunter_builds these are not 2.0 yet but the talent calculater used it - so they are messed up
14:55.46Industrials/it/is/
14:57.08Patrigan-Syldralol ^^ cool use of the bot :p
14:58.13Industrialthats sed (stream editor) syntax, a unix program :D
15:00.48Patrigan-Syldra^^
15:20.37Apollozeus--Chihiro 04:27, 18 September 2006 (EDT)
15:20.48Apollozeusgotta hate people who insert their signature into pages
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18:16.08RuanI don't know how many people working on the wiki have it, but I can get info from the beta if that would help anyone with their pages.
18:16.38Adysmm, gives me an idea
18:17.19RuanThat's one of the reasons I've been working on the Aldor vs. Scryers page
18:17.25RuanI can actually see the items :P
18:17.54RuanI'm not so good at the formating though yet, it's hard to do code mimicry when everyone is using templates for everything
18:20.00AdysRuan: http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:Expansion_Beta_Testers
18:24.50Ruanwikis are marvelous things
18:25.19RuanAnd I heavily support this one so there's a non commercial site out there that won't load everyone with keyloggers for wondering what a quest item is.
19:05.19Ruansigh, they changed the set to flamebane but didn't change the set bonus listing, which still says shadow guard
19:05.53Adyshehe
19:06.46Ruanwhen I build the item sets for the wiki should I just put in flame guard and assume blizzard will catch up?
19:07.15Ruanor maybe mark the item as unfinished or something..
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19:17.55Adysruan: dont bother too much with it
19:17.59Adysit can be changed later on anyways
19:20.38foxlit[13:34] <foxlit> Someone should take a look at the {{t}} references in Template:Battle
19:20.38foxlit[13:34] <foxlit> Looks like a failed attempt at conditionals, but I'd rather not touch them at the moment.
19:20.47foxlitJust poking again :)
19:21.06Patrigan-Syldra./poke back
19:21.12Adyshmm whats that?
19:21.41Patrigan-SyldraWtf...
19:21.55Patrigan-SyldraI'm just wondering what it is tbh...
19:22.11Patrigan-SyldraDoe sit have anything to do with WoW?
19:23.06Patrigan-Syldra{{speedydelete}} ?
19:23.25Patrigan-Syldranothing Warcraft related...
19:23.41Patrigan-Syldranot even the RTSgames
19:23.51Adyshttp://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:Whatlinkshere&target=Template%3ABattle
19:24.07AdysShould just be a local template
19:24.54Patrigan-Syldrahmmm
19:24.57Patrigan-Syldrabut even then...
19:25.03Patrigan-Syldrait's full of bugs
19:25.10Patrigan-SyldraWouldn't even make it a template
19:26.11Patrigan-Syldrawell that's my oppinion, but I'm tired and can't think really straight atm ^^
19:26.18Patrigan-Syldraso I think I'm going to shut up :)
19:36.13Adyshttp://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Template:Battle&action=edit
19:36.16Adysuurggl
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19:40.36Patrigan-Syldrayikes
19:40.42Patrigan-Syldrathat's scary
19:40.46Patrigan-Syldravery scary
19:40.57Adysdisgusting yeah =P
19:41.05Patrigan-Syldraand yet, he managed to create such an ugly thingy as well
19:41.38Patrigan-SyldraI can make the same thing, with about ahlf as much text
19:41.52Adysif you feel like cleaning it up.. :P
19:41.57Adysactually
19:42.28Adystagged cleanup
19:42.52Patrigan-Syldrahmmm
19:42.56Patrigan-Syldracleaning it up >.>
19:43.00Adys:P
19:43.14Patrigan-Syldradoesn't there exist a tag "Restart from scratch"
19:43.21Patrigan-Syldrathink that's the only possible goal left...
19:43.37Patrigan-SyldraWell I'm gonna say no to it anyways...
19:43.50Patrigan-Syldraneed to start typing the PR thingy...
19:44.10Patrigan-SyldraBut I can't, because some decision needs to be made regarding the naming of guildpages...
19:44.24Adys=P
19:45.45Patrigan-Syldrathe whole point of the PR thingy is to get more servers and guilds to use the WoWwiki and make pages like http://www.wowwiki.com/Server:Shattered_Hand_Europe
19:46.02Patrigan-Syldra(been working hard on that one together with some other players from my server)
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20:49.27RuanWhat's the ultimate goal with the realm pages on the wiki?
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21:00.33RuanI should know this but I need a mod that displays estimated item level
21:04.08[zeal]Well, as you can see, i'm attempting to suggest a better way of sorting out the guild and server pages, along with templates and eventually, a boilerplate.
21:05.59Tekkubthere is no estimated item levels now
21:06.06TekkubBlizzy gives us the real one
21:06.45Tekkub* UPDATED itemName, itemLink, itemRarity, itemLevel, itemMinLevel, itemType, itemSubType, itemStackCount, itemEquipLoc, invTexture = GetItemInfo(itemID|"itemLink") -- Now returns item level WARNING - This change is not backward compatible
21:07.10RuanAhh. So I can probably just pull from thott
21:07.22Tekkub*facepalm*
21:07.37RuanYes, I make people do that a lot.
21:07.49Tekkubthott's are estimates unless they've rewritten their dataminer to get the number we now have access to
21:08.10Tekkub...and completely updated their database of dirty dirty data
21:08.21RuanWhich of course, did not happen.
21:08.44Tekkubso get the true iLevel in game :P
21:08.57[Zeal]or datamine it yourself :p
21:08.59Tekkuband get me my god damn xmas Dr Who
21:11.15RuanI guess the problem is I'm trying to pull the item level of something from the plans for it.
21:11.39Tekkubcan't do that
21:11.47Tekkubyou'll get the iLevel of the pattern
21:11.51Ruanright.
21:12.17Tekkubbrb
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21:26.37RuanI just made my first real data contribution, could someone look at it and tell me how to make it better and more uniform with the rest of the site?
21:26.46Ruanplans flamebane bracers
21:30.42Tekkublink?
21:33.11Ruanhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Plans:_Flamebane_Bracers
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21:36.07Tekkublevel 1 headers are BAD!
21:36.36Patrigan-Syldrayup
21:36.42Patrigan-Syldramake them == header ==
21:36.50Tekkubwhere exactly is that old boilerplate keep coming from?
21:37.16Patrigan-Syldra[[Quartermaster Endarin]] <[[Aldor]] Quartermaster>
21:37.19Patrigan-Syldrado it like that
21:37.33Patrigan-Syldrathen you get easy links to the humanoid and the Faction
21:38.13Patrigan-Syldraother than that it looks fine
21:38.54Patrigan-SyldraAnd btw, I don't like thott...
21:39.27RuanI didn't touch thott
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21:39.36Ruanthat's all from me staring at the quartermaster :P
21:40.22RuanI'm new at the wiki thing in general, which one is the level 1 header?
21:40.34[Zeal]= moo ==
21:40.37[Zeal]*=
21:40.51[Zeal]number of = is the level
21:41.09Patrigan-SyldraI know it has nothing to do with thott
21:41.17Patrigan-Syldrabut I was just adding a remark to some discussion above
21:41.34RuanRight, but I don't see where the level 1 header is
21:41.38[Zeal]all articles start with a level 1 header with the page's tilte.
21:42.01Patrigan-Syldra=Source= and =Notes=
21:42.08Patrigan-Syldrathose are your lvl 1 headers
21:42.21Patrigan-Syldramake them == Source == and == Notes == (notice the =)
21:42.24[Zeal]of in refrence to the page.. meh. sorry wasn't looking.
21:42.24RuanAhh.
21:42.58Patrigan-Syldraand then also don't forget to adjust [[Quartermaster Endarin]] <[[Aldor]] Quartermaster>
21:43.07Patrigan-Syldrain most cases it's never bad to have too many links
21:47.10Patrigan-SyldraRuan tell me when you have updated it, then I can go see
21:47.14Tekkubif you're making item pages... http://www.wowwiki.com/Boilerplate:Item
21:47.16Ruanbecause that's how people get their souls consumed! sure.
21:47.21Tekkubuse that boilerplate
21:47.26RuanOk
21:47.50Tekkubbut.... that boilerplate doesn't really do the transcludable tooltip shit cause we've still not really decided on how to do that
21:48.11TekkubI can dump the tooltips out and make them for you
21:48.20Tekkubbut it doesn't match that boilerplate
21:48.35TekkubI'm of the mind the wiki tip should look exactly like the in game one
21:48.44Ruanyeah, I would agree with that
21:48.48Tekkubnone of this extra shit, put that in the item page is mah vote
21:49.11Ruanit would be useful to have a template for each piece of armor so you could just fill in the blanks
21:49.34RuanIE, each slot I mean
21:49.41Patrigan-SyldraWell...
21:49.48Patrigan-Syldraif you get Auctioneer with Enh Tooltip
21:49.52Patrigan-Syldrayou get all that shit aswell :p
21:49.59RuanWiki ready?
21:50.05Tekkubdefault UI, always
21:50.10Patrigan-Syldranah was talking bout ingame tooltips
21:50.17Patrigan-Syldratrue
21:50.18RuanOh, I see
21:50.22Patrigan-Syldrabut tbh, it looks better this way
21:50.24TekkubI have a mod that dumps the tips
21:50.30Tekkubbut there's another issue
21:50.36Patrigan-Syldraand it looks a lot nicer
21:50.44Tekkubwe could mine the WDB cache like everyone else
21:50.50Tekkubwikify the data
21:51.04Patrigan-Syldrawell...
21:51.04Tekkuband make a template that creates a tooltip from that data
21:51.12Patrigan-Syldrathat could actually work
21:51.13KirkburnBusy in here, hello everyone
21:51.14Patrigan-Syldrabut...
21:51.18Patrigan-SyldraHi kirk
21:51.20RuanI'm just thinking we should use the least invasive way to make pages quickly, because we will always spend a LOT of time building item data
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21:51.26TekkubKirkbum
21:51.39Patrigan-Syldratrue true
21:51.41KirkburnOi, I'll kick you ;)
21:51.41Ruanthere will always always always be item data to build.
21:51.43Patrigan-SyldraKind of agree with you there
21:51.52Patrigan-Syldra^^
21:51.54Tekkubyea Ruan, the data that can be pulled from the game *shoudl* be posted/updated by bots
21:52.01Patrigan-SyldraAgree with Kirk on the kicking part!
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21:52.10Kirkburnahmagad!
21:52.17[Zeal]tbh.. if an item stores it's own data, then other pages can just transclude it with no include tags added..
21:52.17Tekkuband have a generic template to make the top part of the item page
21:52.20Patrigan-Syldrawrong letter Kirk!
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21:52.24[Zeal]*item page
21:52.27Kirkburnheh
21:52.28Tekkuband then users can add the extra info after that template
21:52.30RuanI mean, I'm new at this but that flamebane bracers probably took me about two hours of learning to mess with the coding to build it.
21:52.43Patrigan-SyldraWell, Ruan
21:52.51Patrigan-Syldraonce you get the hang of it, it'll go a lot faster :p
21:52.53Tekkubthat's just learning wiki code :P
21:53.00Patrigan-Syldrabut I agree an easier to use template would be kind of neat to start with
21:53.01Ruanthat's true, but it still doesn't look the way I want.
21:53.02Tekkubif you use the boilerplate it goes faster
21:53.15Patrigan-SyldraDatamining would be a good idea
21:53.18KirkburnI find it stange that someone finds Xmas day the day to start editing the wiki for hours :P
21:53.21Patrigan-Syldraif anyone wishes to write the bot
21:53.28Patrigan-Syldra<=
21:53.29Tekkubfuck xmas
21:53.32[Zeal]the wiki has no dtabase support, so treat the articles as data rows that would want to be transcluded elsewhere.
21:53.34Tekkub:P
21:53.36Patrigan-SyldraWho cares about Xmas
21:53.41Patrigan-Syldraas Long as I get my presents I'm fine
21:53.45TekkubI'm sitting at the inlaws on the laptop ignoring them
21:53.54Patrigan-SyldraWell
21:53.54KirkburnMostly meaning Pratt, most of his edits are today ^^
21:54.00Tekkubthey're all screaming about god knows what
21:54.00KirkburnGo Tekkub!
21:54.31KirkburnIt because there's a bogeyman behind you
21:54.41TekkubI hate you
21:54.42Patrigan-Syldrawhat we could do is set up a Server with Database support and let a bot work in between the wiki and the database to solve the lack of database support
21:54.43RuanIf they ask why the wiki is so interesting tell them it bakes christmas cookies and doesn't call you a drunk.
21:55.06Tekkubthey think we're drunks
21:55.07KirkburnTek, you looked didn't you ...
21:55.09Tekkubwe got...
21:55.18Tekkub* blender to mix drinks
21:55.23Tekkub* martini glasses
21:55.30Kirkburn* red hot poker for the games
21:55.34Tekkub* martini mix, just add wodka
21:55.47Kirkburn* nipple piercing kit
21:55.47Tekkub* one of those shaker thingies
21:56.17KirkburnI'm sorry, how are you not drunks?
21:56.31Tekkubwe don't actually have any alsomohol to drink
21:56.35RuanI edited the flamebane bracer page but I notice the sorcing header has gone funny
21:56.59Tekkubhe wanted all this shit for oe reason
21:57.04Tekkubto mix mudslides
21:57.13Tekkuband you know what ingreds we got... milk
21:57.16Tekkubthat's it
21:57.42Ruanthe secret ingredient is entropy
21:57.51[Zeal]Patrigan-Syldra, thats all well and good, and probably doable. but do you think it's likely to be done and easily implemented, especially with future versions of mediawiki. a new version, and the site would pretty much die until the code is updated.
21:58.22Patrigan-SyldraNothing is easily implemented
21:58.28Tekkubnow they're making fun of the fact that I can type with two hands, and "fast"
21:58.34Tekkubgod they're rednecks
21:58.37Patrigan-SyldraXD
21:58.49Tekkuband asking me how to get free music
21:59.04Patrigan-SyldraAnd how much will a new version differ from an older version?
21:59.25[Zeal]no idea, thats the risk.
21:59.27Ruanthat's like asking if WoW will have a pirate class some day
21:59.35[Zeal]lol
22:00.07KirkburnRuan, better? http://www.wowwiki.com/Plans:_Flamebane_Bracers
22:00.23Ruanit has mysteriously dropped back into place!
22:00.29RuanPraise the magic of the wiki
22:00.33KirkburnWith the amazing use of {{clrl}}
22:00.38Ruanohsh
22:00.43KirkburnI thought that was on the item template?
22:01.03KirkburnBy which I mean, I added it to the template, has someone removed it?
22:01.15[Zeal]always remember to clear your floats if you need to ;)
22:01.34Ruantoo many fingers in the honeypot probably
22:01.37Tekkubhe wasn't using the boilerplate
22:01.42Ruancorrect
22:01.43KirkburnYeah, guessed :P
22:01.52Tekkubhe was using the old L1 header page that he got from god knows where
22:02.07Ruanthe armor kit on the scyer vs aldor page
22:02.24Tekkubsee.. the old layout just won't die!
22:02.25KirkburnBasically clrl means the CSS code clear:left - it puts whatever follow below anything that's anchored to the left side
22:02.37Tekkubwe really need to work out WDB parsing
22:02.37Ruanisn't it fun to have me here to tell you where the evil comes from?!
22:03.07Tekkubyea but where did the armor page come from? :P
22:03.15Ruanwhat armor page?
22:03.29Tekkubit's like a virus it keeps reproducing but you don't know what guy gave it to you
22:03.32KirkburnI mean: "it makes whatever follows the code go down below everything that's anchored to the left side
22:03.37Tekkub*armor kit
22:03.38[Zeal]anyone got an example of what they think is a good server page and guild page layout?
22:03.45Kirkburn*armoUr ;)
22:03.50Ruana euro!
22:04.13Tekkubwhatevour
22:04.21KirkburnOh I'm such a wit: http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Kargath_Bladefist#Hands.
22:04.37Patrigan-SyldraZeal
22:04.38RuanI'm afraid to look
22:04.39Patrigan-Syldraserver:
22:04.59Patrigan-Syldrahttp://www.wowwwiki.com/Server:Shattered_Hand_Europe
22:05.03Patrigan-Syldrabeen working hard on it
22:05.07Patrigan-Syldrabut it's still not right
22:05.10[Zeal]thought you'd suggest that ;)
22:05.11Patrigan-Syldrarequires still a lot of work XD
22:05.13Patrigan-Syldra^^
22:05.20[Zeal]and it was prime on my list
22:05.31[Zeal]basically i intend to do a boilerplate next.
22:05.56RuanAdys added a beta tester category for users, which being a complete blind naked mole rat, added myself too. I'm sure it will have me marked for death later.
22:06.05Ruanto*
22:06.56Patrigan-Syldrahaha ^^
22:06.56Patrigan-SyldraI haven't added me yet
22:06.56Patrigan-Syldrastill working on my server
22:06.56[Zeal]yeah i was gunna add myself to it later
22:07.00Patrigan-Syldraand need to find time to do the TCG as well
22:07.44[Zeal]wtf.. Patrigan-Syldra, that link is sending me to http://www.lewt.com/world-of-warcraft-us/ O_o
22:08.19RuanIt's a trap, throw a grenade down the link
22:08.23[Zeal]too many w's lol
22:09.16Patrigan-SyldraXD
22:09.20Patrigan-Syldrasry ^^
22:09.45Patrigan-Syldranearly died ingame while typing that link!
22:09.46RuanRuan loves the item boilerplate
22:09.56Patrigan-SyldraXD
22:11.34KirkburnTekkub, obscure reference time, and one that doesn't work in print: I'd like fork handles!
22:11.49Tekkubfork you
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22:12.00RuanI'll try making the next item using the boilerplate and if it goes well I'll convert the bracers too
22:12.18KirkburnPatrigan-Syldra, wtf has happened to that link
22:12.22Kirkburnoooh
22:12.23TekkubI see 'ou've play knifey spooney before!
22:12.24KirkburnI seeeee
22:12.42Patrigan-SyldraXD
22:12.48KirkburnGawd, scared me
22:12.51Patrigan-SyldraSomeone is rather afkish
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22:13.12Patrigan-Syldrayou know that's actually not surprising that goldfarmers abuse the wowwiki like that
22:14.12Tekkubhrm?
22:14.59RuanI'm surprised it hasn't happened more
22:15.06Patrigan-Syldradifference between http://www.wowwiki.com and http://www.wowwwiki.com
22:15.31Ruanthough they have to be kind of stupid linking the european realm to the us gold seller
22:16.05Ruanwhoever links a gold seller should be ... .... B&!
22:16.20Tekkubahso
22:16.35Tekkubbut external links always get a [-]-->
22:16.48Tekkubin-wiki links don't :)
22:17.24RuanYes but as the last bastion of malware free info on warcraft, we must be vilgillante!
22:17.40Tekkubmalware free?
22:17.45RuanKill them with their toes!
22:17.52Tekkubwhat other sites got infested?
22:18.12TekkubI know ui.wow got that keylogger in an ad a week or so ago :)
22:18.21Ruanwhich one hasn't at some point recently? allakhazam has been, ui.wow has, curse gaming has
22:18.39TekkubWoWI?
22:19.03Tekkuballa's ads were annoying as fuck before wow was even out, you just need a good ad blocker
22:19.22Patrigan-Syldrawell
22:19.23Ruanthe wiki is good and clean and pure though..
22:19.34Patrigan-Syldrawe don't offer things for download
22:19.36Tekkubpure like my bear ass :P
22:19.40Ruanhow dare they bring their shenanigans up in there!
22:19.40Patrigan-Syldraand thus we can't get keyloggers
22:20.01Tekkubuh... the keylogger on ui.wow was embedded in an ad
22:20.04RuanInformation that the wiki offers is far more powerful than any UI
22:20.05Tekkubnot a download
22:20.30Tekkubinformation on the wiki has had it's hand in damn near every addon written
22:20.31Tekkub:)
22:20.51Tekkubfirst thing any good dev l.earns... use the wiki
22:21.15Patrigan-Syldraidd!
22:21.18foxlitSome of the API pages are... urgh.
22:21.22Patrigan-SyldraXD
22:21.30Ruansorry, I'm here because the wiki agrees with my hope for humanity, abundance of information.. joy in knoweldge etc etc.
22:21.40Tekkubapi pages, for the most part, are not needed
22:21.49Patrigan-Syldrahmmm
22:22.17Tekkubblah, bluh = SomeAPIFunc(argy, arg, argh) is more than enought most of the time
22:22.24foxlitOh, I dunno.
22:22.29Tekkubsome functions need a short page to clearify
22:22.49TekkubI love wikis cause I'm a lazy ass
22:22.54Patrigan-Syldra^^
22:22.58Ruanyet you work on one
22:23.01Patrigan-SyldraI love wiki's cuz it gives me something to do!
22:23.07foxlitDevil is in the details, really.
22:23.07Ruanit's that contrary to being lazy?
22:23.13Ruanisn't*
22:23.14TekkubAce people go "oh the wiki page is wrong" and I go "so stop telling me and fix it, it's a wiki asshole"
22:24.00RuanI wonder if the wiki would get in a cyberfight with the chinese if pandarens were put in as a race
22:24.12Tekkubthen they usually say some crap about not wanting to step on toes and shit, and I tell em their edits can always be undone if they fuck it up :)
22:24.17Ruanor would wiki throwdown be a more proper term
22:24.37Tekkubyou mean like googlefight?
22:24.53Ruanwikipocalypse?
22:25.11RuanSomething like that.
22:25.22Tekkubhttp://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=pandaren&word2=chineese
22:25.41Tekkubbut.....
22:25.42Tekkubhttp://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=wiki&word2=chineese
22:25.52Tekkubwiki >> chineese
22:25.53Ruanuh oh.
22:26.37Ruanafk din din.
22:28.13Tekkubyou know
22:28.19TekkubRustak pisses me off
22:29.04Tekkubyou pass on leadership before you abandon your guild for a Naxx guild godddamnit
22:29.51Patrigan-SyldraXD
22:30.05Patrigan-SyldraI passed on my Naxx guild for starting a Healer Class guild
22:30.50TekkubI WANT MY DR WHO!!!!!!
22:31.00Tekkub*mumble*
22:53.25RuanDr Who time travels
22:53.35Ruanmaybe he's already here but just a second ahead?
22:55.03Tekkubquiet you
22:57.47Patrigan-Syldra!
23:01.15Tekkubugh
23:01.49Tekkubthis lil sudoku handheld has the least intuitive UI I've ever used
23:01.59Tekkubthat's what you get for $15 at halmark...
23:02.01Tekkubbah
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23:12.32KirkburnCiao. Someone turned off my router so I notice =)
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23:17.32KirkburnTharkie seems to be having problems :P
23:18.15KirkburnBaggins is adding loads of new info atm, really awesome. Might have to read it someday =)
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23:25.23Patrigan-Syldragn guys, till tomorrow
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23:54.48RuanI guess it's a preference thing, I was looking at my servers wiki page and a few days ago someone removed the progression from the alliance side. Which honestly I don't mind. I think tracking progression is kind of.. uhh stupid.
23:55.22KirkburnSomeone removed it?
23:55.27KirkburnMaliciously?
23:56.09RuanI'm not sure if it was malicious. They edited the page, and If it's actually the person I think it is (I recognize the user name) I'm not sure what he was doing exactly
23:56.32Ruanand honestly I kind of agree with not tracking progression, that's a lot for a wiki to edit with no one who actually keeps track of it.
23:56.55Ruanthe question becomes I guess, in this case does the wiki think that more information = good
23:57.06KirkburnPerhaps, but the removal is only valid if the info was really out of date
23:57.16Ruanit could be one could say
23:57.22KirkburnI know that the Dragonblight EU server page stays up to date
23:57.34Ruanthe guilds at least alliance side haven't really raided in three weeks
23:57.40Ruandue to the holiday slow down
23:57.40Kirkburnlol
23:57.58RuanI mean my guild has probably had two raids in the past three weeks, one was an aq20
23:58.12Ruaneveryone is kind of feeeling the TBC itch too
23:58.39RuanSo yeah, I don't know what to make of it, the page isn't exactly a lot of content anyway
23:59.02RuanI get a weird feeling knowing that one of the websites listed on there is my own
23:59.08Ruankind of like finding your picture on google.
23:59.14Kirkburnheh
23:59.20KirkburnI'm moving up the Kirkburn searches
23:59.47KirkburnDo you like having a zone in TBC named after you? :P

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