| 00:00.23 | wrea | Yeah, LDFLAGS is set correctly |
| 00:01.11 | dwc- | well, let me see what I get if I build an i686 version (don't have pdk on this machine) ... kismet-2011-03-R2? |
| 00:01.47 | wrea | Yeah |
| 00:02.29 | dwc- | ah-ha, can you check your build log? |
| 00:02.32 | dwc- | did you get someting like |
| 00:02.33 | dwc- | g++: unrecognized option '-R/media/cryptofs/apps/usr/lib' |
| 00:04.51 | wrea | I didnt see an error regarding that when I built it this morning |
| 00:05.39 | dwc- | well, try LDFLAGS='-Wl,-R/media/cryptofs/apps/usr/lib' instead... that clears my error anyways |
| 00:06.10 | dwc- | /tmp/kismet-2011-03-R2$ objdump -x kismet_server | grep -i rpath RPATH /media/cryptofs/apps/usr/lib |
| 00:06.50 | dwc- | I didn't think that kismet was C++... and g++ doesn't take all the same stuff gcc does |
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| 00:23.27 | wrea | rpath is there now, so hopefully it works now |
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| 00:57.14 | EricBlade | any opinions on what might be the "best" selection for ioscheduler for touchpad? |
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| 01:15.38 | EricBlade | i have an opinion now. noop is so far and away the better one option for me it's crazy |
| 01:26.31 | hmmmm | why does sshd keep restarting with a set of predefined command line arguments, and where are they? |
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| 01:31.57 | jan__ | how do you download |
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| 01:41.27 | hmmmm | ah.... upstart |
| 01:41.44 | hmmmm | according to the website, upstart reads /etc/init, but there's no /etc/init to be found! |
| 01:51.26 | hmmmm | FOUND IT |
| 01:51.32 | hmmmm | holy crap |
| 01:52.26 | hmmmm | /media/cryptofs/apps/usr/palm/applications/mobi.optware/openssh/upstart/mobi.optware.openssh |
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| 02:35.46 | resistivecorpse | my touchpad just reset itself! |
| 02:36.02 | Log1x | fun, fun, fun. |
| 02:37.14 | resistivecorpse | anybody know why it would have done a factory reset? |
| 02:37.30 | resistivecorpse | im on the line with cust. service right now |
| 02:37.39 | resistivecorpse | we'll see what they say |
| 02:39.50 | DougReeder | ouch |
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| 03:07.28 | resistivecorpse | so tech support was really nice |
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| 04:14.04 | gyrojoe | anyone have an EAS PIN on their TP? |
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| 04:36.21 | hmmmm | hey guys, when i run ./configure, i get this error http://codepad.org/8wGpb2Ad |
| 04:36.26 | hmmmm | what is that exactly? |
| 04:36.40 | hmmmm | $PKG_CONFIG is blank, in any case |
| 04:36.47 | hmmmm | what do you guys do to compile optware? |
| 04:37.13 | hmmmm | this is another linuxism, right? |
| 04:40.46 | crimsonredmk | what distro you on hmmmm |
| 04:40.55 | hmmmm | webOS 3.0.2 |
| 04:40.59 | crimsonredmk | you need a package installed called pkg-config |
| 04:41.21 | crimsonredmk | webos? what are you compiling directly on the device? |
| 04:41.22 | hmmmm | there is no pkg-config in optware |
| 04:41.26 | hmmmm | xsetroot |
| 04:41.33 | crimsonredmk | or is that how you're supposed to compile stuff |
| 04:41.35 | crimsonredmk | O.o |
| 04:41.37 | hmmmm | is it? |
| 04:41.38 | crimsonredmk | i wouldn't know |
| 04:41.41 | hmmmm | i don't really see the problem *shrug* |
| 04:42.00 | crimsonredmk | i thought you build these optware packages in a chroot/cross compile environment |
| 04:42.03 | crimsonredmk | say, on ubuntu |
| 04:42.05 | crimsonredmk | for arm |
| 04:42.06 | hmmmm | do you? |
| 04:42.09 | crimsonredmk | but i don't know |
| 04:42.12 | hmmmm | i don't see why you'd need |
| 04:42.21 | hmmmm | there needs to be an easier way |
| 04:42.22 | crimsonredmk | i honestly don't know, sorry |
| 04:42.29 | hmmmm | haha that's ok |
| 04:42.37 | hmmmm | so i need to install the debian chroot thing? |
| 04:42.54 | crimsonredmk | mmm nah, wait for someone more knowledgable |
| 04:43.00 | hmmmm | ok |
| 04:43.01 | crimsonredmk | i don't think you need a chroot, maybe |
| 04:43.46 | hmmmm | woa woa |
| 04:43.51 | hmmmm | what's this no space left on device stuff now |
| 04:44.51 | hmmmm | oh :/ |
| 04:45.02 | hmmmm | i've been working in ~ which is 6.0MB |
| 04:45.06 | hmmmm | 62.0MB rather |
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| 05:35.18 | elfurbe | So, I'm having an interesting VPN issue. I'm trying out the messaging hack where you insert your own jabber server into the hosts file as talk.google.com intending to bind messaging to my enterprise jabber, but it requires vpn and it seems that the messag |
| 05:35.18 | elfurbe | ing connection is bypassing the VPN tunnel. Anyone have any thoughts on why that would be? |
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| 06:13.07 | SineOt | Is the wIRC rewrite in Enyo anywhere near usable? :o |
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| 06:24.49 | lingfish | Anyone running a Pre 3 with 2.2.3? I need a line paste |
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| 06:56.17 | dwc- | hmmmmmm: is that on-device? |
| 06:56.27 | hmmmmmm | yeah |
| 06:57.00 | dwc- | the package you want is called pkgconfig |
| 06:57.15 | dwc- | it's definitely not a linuxism |
| 06:57.26 | dwc- | http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/pkg-config |
| 06:57.47 | dwc- | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pkg-config |
| 06:57.53 | hmmmmmm | yah |
| 06:57.57 | hmmmmmm | there's an ipk for that |
| 06:58.00 | hmmmmmm | the - threw me off |
| 06:58.58 | SineOt | Anyone free to build wIRC for me real quick? :p |
| 06:59.09 | dwc- | for emulator? |
| 06:59.42 | SineOt | For device, ideally |
| 06:59.52 | dwc- | are you changing the plugin? |
| 06:59.56 | SineOt | Think I narrowed down an old old bug I reported |
| 06:59.58 | SineOt | dwc-: yeah |
| 07:00.14 | dwc- | are you building on linux? |
| 07:00.26 | SineOt | OSX. Never built anything with the PDK |
| 07:00.39 | dwc- | CC=/opt/PalmPDK/arm-gcc/bin/arm-none-linux-gnueabi-gcc make SSL=1 |
| 07:00.55 | dwc- | that's how I build on linux.... if you have the SDK/PDK installed yours should be that simple too |
| 07:01.27 | hmmmmmm | ya, my PKG_CONFIG_PATH is blank |
| 07:01.31 | hmmmmmm | what do i set that to? |
| 07:01.32 | hmmmmmm | ?_? |
| 07:01.34 | dwc- | but, if you have a patch, I can build it for you |
| 07:01.53 | SineOt | dwc-: no patch, but it's literally a single line changed |
| 07:01.53 | dwc- | look for a dir named pkgconfig |
| 07:02.03 | dwc- | it should have .pc files in it |
| 07:02.57 | dwc- | that's really what PKG_CONFIG_PATH is for... pointing it at the dir with the .pc files in it |
| 07:03.06 | dwc- | if you don't have the .pc files, pkgconfig won't be all that useful |
| 07:03.24 | dwc- | SineOt: paste(bin?) it? |
| 07:03.40 | SineOt | dwc-: sure |
| 07:04.04 | SineOt | or not. Hella borked something :3 |
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| 07:11.51 | hmmmmmm | is locate part of a certain package in optware? |
| 07:11.54 | hmmmmmm | because that's not there either |
| 07:13.50 | SineOt | dwc-: It's one line, so I'm not going to paste bin it, but⦠Line 638 in /src/libircclient/libircclient.c needs to get changed from "char ctcp_buf[128];" to "char ctcp_buf[512];" |
| 07:19.42 | SineOt | dwc-: I can still paste bin that if you want :p |
| 07:19.52 | dwc- | oh, is this your actions get cut off thing? |
| 07:20.18 | SineOt | Yeah. |
| 07:20.24 | hmmmmmm | nevermind that, i found pkgconfig on the TP |
| 07:20.42 | hmmmmmm | how do i know if i even have the prerequsites i'm defining in a .pc file? |
| 07:20.50 | SineOt | Poking it, it's uh⦠Stupid simple. If it's a notice, it gets check with a buffer length of 512 (correctly) but if it's a PRIVMSG it gets checked with a buffer length of 128 (way, way wrong) |
| 07:21.57 | dwc- | locate is probably in findutils, if it's not in a specific 'locate' package |
| 07:22.32 | dwc- | mlocate - 0.24-1 - A merginging locate program to find files fast |
| 07:22.39 | dwc- | or |
| 07:22.39 | dwc- | findutils - 4.2.32-1 - File finding utilities |
| 07:23.46 | dwc- | thinks SineOt must regularly do rather very long long long actions that run on and on and on and on and on |
| 07:24.09 | SineOt | Yeah. I play DND :U |
| 07:25.04 | dwc- | in wirc? gross... |
| 07:25.39 | hmmmmmm | libXmu is installed along with Xserver, right? |
| 07:25.47 | hmmmmmm | oh snap i know where it might be |
| 07:26.10 | SineOt | dwc-: nah, on a desktop, since wIRC eats those ctcp actions for lunch. |
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| 07:27.25 | dwc- | hmm, so nickbuf gets to be 256 chars long, but ctcps only 128 eh |
| 07:29.23 | SineOt | and ctcps only if they're privmsg and not notices |
| 07:29.40 | SineOt | notices get to be 512 |
| 07:30.01 | dwc- | ctcp vs ctcp replies, yes |
| 07:30.29 | dwc- | alright, well, skimming the the rest of the fn, it looks safe to increase, but I didn't give it a very thorough read |
| 07:31.50 | SineOt | Yeah, it's just used for buffer length checks from what I can tell. It's set separately for everything else. |
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| 07:34.25 | dwc- | ok, give me a second |
| 07:38.10 | SineOt | dwc-: thanks a ton for this, since I have no idea what I'm doing when it comes to compelling plugins for on device use |
| 07:40.24 | dwc- | http://www.box.net/shared/cv5di6aj1zy6lxgx2apu |
| 07:40.27 | dwc- | the top one |
| 07:40.33 | dwc- | (with no date) |
| 07:41.22 | dwc- | (was too lazy to set a new branch, so it's got some other fixes and changes I've been playing with) |
| 07:42.46 | SineOt | Oh? Like what? |
| 07:43.07 | dwc- | see the comments on the files |
| 07:43.22 | lonequid | is that the enyo version? |
| 07:43.24 | dwc- | no |
| 07:43.27 | lonequid | :< |
| 07:43.58 | dwc- | I'm working on the mojo version, since that's the version I use on my phone ... |
| 07:44.22 | SineOt | Oh, huh-Should probably turn off ShutUp.css :p |
| 07:45.06 | SineOt | (I would die to see ShutUp.css in the TouchPad's browser) |
| 07:45.32 | dwc- | if you want to test the other things, feel free to ping me for a longer description of what those all mean |
| 07:46.47 | SineOt | I get the general gist of what they change, I think. The plugin restart I assume helps bring it back up if it crashes out in use, right? |
| 07:46.59 | dwc- | yep. |
| 07:47.08 | dwc- | a problem I have, patrick has had, but both oil and puff said theirs never crashes |
| 07:47.35 | dwc- | that's a manual trigger only right now ("health check" in the app menu on the serverlist) |
| 07:47.57 | SineOt | "WONTFIX: works for me" eh? ;D |
| 07:48.36 | dwc- | I'm not 100% certain I'm resetting everything that needs to be reset, but a month of triggering on my own crashes, I think I'll add it to the checks at connect time and keep testing soon |
| 07:53.18 | SineOt | If it works it works! |
| 07:54.57 | dwc- | well, so did it fix your problem? |
| 07:55.12 | SineOt | Installing it right now. Keep getting distracted. |
| 08:02.52 | SineOt | dwc-: yup, fixed it. :p |
| 08:07.54 | SineOt | dwc-: I should have looked into this ages ago. Surprised it was such a simple fix |
| 08:13.59 | dwc- | cool |
| 08:14.18 | dwc- | post it to #307 on the redmine and hopefully they'll get a chance to vet and push it |
| 08:23.05 | SineOt | dwc-: yeah, was writing it up. Posted and linked, so we'll see what happens with it |
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| 08:58.15 | niu | anyone is here? |
| 08:58.25 | Habbie | yes. |
| 08:58.27 | Habbie | just ask your question |
| 08:58.54 | niu | my pre plus can not play youtube video? |
| 08:59.40 | niu | it can search some videos!but can not play! |
| 08:59.54 | niu | can you help me? |
| 09:00.13 | niu | webos 1.4.5 |
| 09:00.20 | niu | thank you! |
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| 09:10.21 | SineOt | no idea, niu! what does it do? just spin? |
| 09:11.19 | niu | my pre plus can't play video of youtube! |
| 09:11.54 | SineOt | yeah you said that already |
| 09:13.36 | niu | I don't know "just spin"? |
| 09:14.06 | niu | what is it mean? |
| 09:14.25 | SineOt | The loading spinner. Does it try to load and play the youtube video? |
| 09:17.02 | niu | I am in china! it can't display picture! |
| 09:18.46 | niu | it can't display picture of video! |
| 09:19.00 | SineOt | does it display the sound of the video? |
| 09:20.32 | niu | no sound! no picture! |
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| 09:21.31 | niu | when I open it ! it display mistake, |
| 09:21.56 | niu | can't play this video! |
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| 09:25.42 | dwc- | can you from a PC? |
| 09:25.51 | dwc- | maybe you're running into region restrictions or something |
| 09:26.09 | niu | no! on webos! |
| 09:26.59 | niu | I have a hosts! it can search video! but can't play! |
| 09:27.17 | dwc- | can you view that same video and play it from a PC |
| 09:28.26 | niu | yes it can play on pc! |
| 09:28.49 | niu | do you knoe openvpn? |
| 09:29.57 | niu | do you know openvpn? |
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| 09:32.08 | dwc- | know of it, yes. used it, no. |
| 09:33.08 | dwc- | NOTICE: 'libircclient' packaging is maintained in the 'Git' version control system at: |
| 09:33.12 | dwc- | http://git.brad-smith.co.uk/git/debian/pkg-libircclient.git |
| 09:33.15 | dwc- | fatal: http://git.brad-smith.co.uk/git/debian/pkg-libircclient.git/info/refs not found |
| 09:33.18 | dwc- | hah |
| 09:34.12 | niu | thank you! friend! |
| 09:34.48 | dwc- | (oops, wrong channel) |
| 09:35.45 | niu | Not Found |
| 09:36.24 | niu | I can't open website you sent! |
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| 12:46.21 | PatrickC | dwc-: I got the email about the new wirc.. I guess install? |
| 12:46.31 | PatrickC | what am I looking for in the new version? |
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| 13:17.21 | owa | so where do you get the latest wirc? <,< |
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| 13:21.03 | Pulser | owa, the webos app catalog? |
| 13:21.20 | owa | i meant the 0.0.9 enyo app |
| 13:21.32 | Pulser | oh |
| 13:21.33 | Pulser | is that public? |
| 13:21.43 | owa | [14:46:22] <PatrickC> dwc-: I got the email about the new wirc.. I guess install? |
| 13:21.47 | owa | i thought thats what he meant |
| 13:22.00 | Pulser | hmmm |
| 13:22.03 | Pulser | that would be more likely |
| 13:22.12 | Pulser | there's no new version in the box.net folder though |
| 13:23.12 | owa | I think you can find the enyo version of wirc in a preware testing feed. Open preware and find the "Annoucement" app and read there. |
| 13:23.52 | owa | from: http://forums.precentral.net/webos-internals/213722-wirc-webos-irc-client-15.html#post3187657 |
| 13:24.10 | Pulser | ah ok :) |
| 13:24.11 | Pulser | that sounds like it |
| 13:24.16 | owa | i do have alpha feeds |
| 13:24.20 | owa | but i cant find that announcement app |
| 13:24.22 | owa | o_0 |
| 13:25.07 | Pulser | hmm |
| 13:25.17 | Pulser | did you set up preware using the new system for beta stuff? |
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| 13:25.57 | owa | you mean removing preware and then through novacomm create the alpha and beta feed files? |
| 13:26.14 | Pulser | aye |
| 13:26.23 | owa | yes as i said i do have alpha feeds |
| 13:26.25 | owa | also enabled |
| 13:26.32 | owa | currently it says i have 522 apps available |
| 13:30.44 | owa | no help? :\/ |
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| 15:34.46 | cat-xeger | http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/10/01/massive-security-vulnerability-in-htc-android-devices-evo-3d-4g-thunderbolt-others-exposes-phone-numbers-gps-sms-emails-addresses-much-more/ |
| 15:34.49 | cat-xeger | *sigh* |
| 15:34.55 | cat-xeger | Sorry. Shouldn't IRC before caffeine. |
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| 17:03.44 | hmmmm | so what's up with the pkgconfig stuff? |
| 17:06.11 | hmmmm | how do you guys typically deal with it when making optware? |
| 17:07.29 | hmmmm | is there a tool that i can use to generate .pc files? |
| 17:07.47 | hmmmm | every time i make one for a dependency on the Xorg libraries, it wants another one |
| 17:08.55 | wrea | hmmmm, each one should be generating one on its own from the pc.in in the source |
| 17:09.07 | hmmmm | on its own huh |
| 17:09.09 | hmmmm | well it's not |
| 17:13.17 | wrea | where are you installing the stuff to? |
| 17:13.36 | hmmmm | i dunno, i'm just doing ./configure |
| 17:14.24 | hmmmm | and the xlibs i'm supposed to be compiling against are in the xserver preware application that comes with xecutah |
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| 17:32.26 | dwc- | if I had to make my own |
| 17:32.36 | dwc- | I'd probably copy them from a system that did have them, and then fix the paths |
| 17:41.52 | hmmmm | i have Debian set up in a virtual machine, the pkgconfig directory on there was pretty small |
| 17:41.57 | hmmmm | i don't recall it having any xlibs |
| 17:44.30 | hmmmm | yeah, there's xbitmaps.pc but that's it |
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| 17:49.28 | dwc- | they should be part of the -dev packages |
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| 17:55.45 | hmmmm | ah |
| 18:04.12 | hmmmm | i don't see any -dev packages for Xorg in the package manager for debian |
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| 18:20.49 | dwc- | do you have libx11-dev? |
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| 18:45.58 | hmmmm | ah.. |
| 18:46.06 | hmmmm | they weren't in the dev section |
| 18:48.27 | hmmmm | oh my god |
| 18:48.33 | hmmmm | oh my god WHAT THE FUCK IS LIBTOOL NOW |
| 18:48.41 | hmmmm | why is compiling something so complicated |
| 18:51.34 | dwc- | lots of things that use libtool ship with it |
| 18:54.17 | hmmmm | now i get some ridiculous error when i try to install libtool "E: could not open file - open" |
| 18:54.25 | hmmmm | a blank filename...? |
| 18:55.36 | cat-xeger | - could be a filename, it's just suck |
| 18:55.49 | hmmmm | but of course, installing libtool doesn't mean anything |
| 18:56.13 | hmmmm | because there's no libtool file that it tries to sed something to |
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| 18:59.56 | dwc- | what kind of thing produces an "E:" as an error? |
| 19:00.16 | hmmmm | synaptic package manager, but i reinstalled it and it didn't generate the error again |
| 19:00.34 | hmmmm | so you say that it should have libtool ship with it? |
| 19:00.50 | hmmmm | i mean it should, especially if the configure script assumes there's a libtool file |
| 19:01.07 | hmmmm | optware/cs08q1armel/builds/xsetroot/libtool is missing |
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| 19:12.51 | dwc- | a lot of things ship with it when they use it, some don't though I imagine |
| 19:14.58 | hmmmm | well what do you do when libtool is missing from something? |
| 19:26.48 | dwc- | go download it? |
| 19:26.49 | dwc- | http://www.gnu.org/software/libtool/ |
| 19:26.56 | dwc- | dunno, I'm not that fond of libtool, tbh |
| 19:29.26 | wrea | dwc-, Thanks again for the help yesterday. |
| 19:31.13 | dwc- | tries to remember yesterday |
| 19:31.37 | wrea | My LDFLAGS problem |
| 19:31.53 | dwc- | oh! right. |
| 19:32.01 | dwc- | you're welcome :) |
| 19:32.59 | wrea | Kismet now runs. I'm probably going to grab manuf from wireshark to include resolving mac's add to manufacturer |
| 19:35.41 | hmmmm | ? i mean the libtool file inside of the package i'm building |
| 19:36.01 | hmmmm | that's suposed to be there but isn't |
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| 19:59.27 | dwc- | not sure what you mean |
| 19:59.45 | PatrickC | hey dwc- |
| 19:59.53 | PatrickC | sorry about the ping-then-leave |
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| 20:04.57 | owa | PatrickC did you mean the encyo wirc client? |
| 20:05.10 | owa | enyo |
| 20:05.15 | PatrickC | was it an enyo version in the box.net folder? |
| 20:05.21 | PatrickC | I didn't install it yet... |
| 20:06.00 | oclet | i really like box.net |
| 20:06.06 | oclet | but i cant figure out how to mount it on freebsd |
| 20:06.13 | PatrickC | I love box.net |
| 20:06.18 | PatrickC | especially on the touchpad :% |
| 20:06.20 | PatrickC | :) * |
| 20:07.58 | oclet | what do you use it for |
| 20:08.28 | dwc- | PatrickC: the undated one is always the most recent |
| 20:08.46 | dwc- | the only change to that one was giving sineot a test build for his fix |
| 20:08.56 | PatrickC | ah ok |
| 20:09.20 | PatrickC | oclet: beta/screenshot sharing/filesharing/etc. |
| 20:10.32 | cat-xeger | http://www.watoday.com.au/technology/security/dumped-computers-exploited-in-overseas-fraud-20111001-1l2rj.html |
| 20:10.36 | cat-xeger | Gah. |
| 20:10.54 | cat-xeger | has got to figure out why this channel's always the one I hit w/ mischans |
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| 20:34.53 | hmmmm | ohh |
| 20:34.58 | hmmmm | libtool is just a shell script |
| 20:35.07 | dwc- | a really big one, yes |
| 20:35.11 | hmmmm | and it's shipped along with sources |
| 20:35.17 | hmmmm | so i copied it over |
| 20:35.21 | hmmmm | and i went to make xsetroot again |
| 20:35.26 | hmmmm | it gives me the same exact error |
| 20:35.33 | hmmmm | i inspect the build directory..... and...... |
| 20:35.34 | darko | quick question ... just installed preware on two separete HP Touchpads - using preware 1.8.3 - a few weeks apart. The newest shows 518 available packages while the older shows 515. Not sure how to ensure I have the latest feeds... the manage feeds window looks the same between the two. |
| 20:35.35 | hmmmm | it's missing |
| 20:35.40 | hmmmm | make is eating my libtool |
| 20:36.18 | dwc- | both running same revision of webos? |
| 20:36.44 | darko | I believe so but trying to verify that now |
| 20:37.08 | dwc- | mien shows 492 :) |
| 20:37.15 | PatrickC | darko: and also, does one have alpha/beta feeds and the other not? |
| 20:38.07 | dwc- | can't remember whether the "available" count includes installed things |
| 20:38.44 | dwc- | nope. |
| 20:38.49 | dwc- | installed a random patch and it's down to 491 |
| 20:38.50 | PatrickC | dwc-: don't think so |
| 20:39.01 | dwc- | so that might account for the diff if one has 3 packages installed the other doesn't |
| 20:39.06 | darko | both show webOS 3.0.2 with no minor release - ie 3.0.2.68 ... so how do I know for sure... |
| 20:39.13 | PatrickC | dwc-: you don't have the "installed is available" switch enables in the prefs then |
| 20:39.15 | PatrickC | enabled* |
| 20:39.35 | PatrickC | darko: click the 3.0.2 in device info |
| 20:40.07 | darko | ahh.. thanks that show 68 for both |
| 20:40.11 | dwc- | apparently not |
| 20:40.30 | dwc- | ok, now mine says 637 |
| 20:40.59 | dwc- | but now includes all the app catalog apps :P |
| 20:41.07 | PatrickC | lol |
| 20:41.54 | PatrickC | is ipkg.preware.org down? |
| 20:42.04 | dwc- | no |
| 20:42.39 | PatrickC | hmm.. the beta feeds didn't load |
| 20:47.35 | darko | can I assume when you click on "update feeds" on both Touchpads, the same amount of "available packages" *should* show ? |
| 20:48.52 | PatrickC | should |
| 20:51.13 | dwc- | if they have the same installed set of software :) |
| 20:51.37 | darko | Thanks Patrick... just trying to understand what I can do... generally impressed with the possibilities of this device.. |
| 20:52.13 | darko | that's why I asked about the webOS version... what else could be different ? that could cause this mismatch ? |
| 20:52.14 | PatrickC | its amazing |
| 20:52.17 | PatrickC | webOS is awesome |
| 20:52.38 | PatrickC | feeds enabled |
| 20:52.56 | darko | yes... just compared the two |
| 20:53.15 | PatrickC | idk |
| 20:53.31 | darko | curious about the others that are off ... ie prethemer, themes |
| 20:53.33 | PatrickC | do you have the "installed is available" switched to on in the prefs? |
| 20:55.02 | darko | mine is NO on both |
| 20:55.34 | PatrickC | enable it |
| 20:55.34 | PatrickC | then update the feeds again |
| 20:55.35 | PatrickC | should level it out iirc |
| 20:56.06 | darko | ok.. thanks... stay tuned |
| 20:56.31 | PatrickC | lol ok |
| 20:58.24 | darko | ok, now the first TP has 585 and the 2nd has 547 |
| 20:58.57 | PatrickC | does one have more apps installed then the other? |
| 20:59.02 | darko | fist alsho has 70 installed while second has 29 installed |
| 20:59.19 | PatrickC | that's why |
| 20:59.26 | PatrickC | one has more apps then the other |
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| 21:00.44 | darko | so that means since I've installed some packages on the first, then there's more available to that TP ? I assumed the Avail should be the same ? |
| 21:01.34 | PatrickC | the available shows the installed as well |
| 21:01.40 | PatrickC | so one has more installed then the other |
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| 21:04.50 | darko | so on the first, 585-70= 515 on second 547-29=518. I did notice the first has "Hulu fix" while the seocnd doesn't... so could that difference account for packages that might be missing in newer feeds ? |
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| 21:31.31 | NuttyBunny | hey all, how's it going? |
| 21:31.44 | wrea | Pretty good, you? |
| 21:34.14 | dwc- | hulu fix is installed, but not working anymore so you might as well uninstall it |
| 21:35.57 | NuttyBunny | wrea: nice as well |
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| 21:53.05 | nightburn | hello |
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| 22:02.02 | hmmmm | alright |
| 22:02.07 | hmmmm | so i managed to get it working a little bit more |
| 22:02.32 | nightburn | Is anyone at all interested in attempting to assist me with my "Custom Browser Gestures" patch. I'm trying to make the Touchpad's browser jump to the top or bottom of the browser portal. |
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| 22:10.32 | summatusmentis | the USB-host stuff, could it be used to output video? |
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| 22:29.07 | NuttyBunny | summatusmentis: I've read mentions of hdmi over usb on android, who knows about the touchpad |
| 22:30.00 | bpadalino | that statement blows my mind |
| 22:33.56 | wrea | Its hardware based too, which afaik, the tp doesnt have |
| 22:34.05 | summatusmentis | yeah, but then... then I'd have to be going usb->hdmi->vga or dvi |
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| 22:50.54 | NuttyBunny | Well, I saw some pictures from the internals of a TP of what it appeared to be some unconnected HDMI pins, which could theoretically work given the correct drivers |
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| 22:53.34 | wrea | Well, if they're not connected, then it'd be more than just drivers |
| 23:09.31 | NuttyBunny | wrea: the connecting stuff is just soldering some wires, but it won't work if there's no way to drive it :) |
| 23:09.36 | NuttyBunny | "just" |
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| 23:11.22 | wrea | "just" indeed |
| 23:12.19 | NuttyBunny | I'd do it only if there's a way to use it. The same way as I went and created my OTG cable only after seeing it really worked :) |
| 23:14.51 | wrea | I got a otg setup. I got wlan0 up before, now I cant get it back up |
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| 23:39.44 | summatusmentis | wait, can you buy an OTG cable that functions? or do I need to make one, regardless? |
| 23:41.55 | NuttyBunny | dunno, I boought one, on dealextreme (3 weeks shipping if I'm lucky). I made my own in the meantime and works beautifully |
| 23:42.09 | summatusmentis | so, they sell usb->vga external video cards |
| 23:42.44 | summatusmentis | I could, in theory, use the otg cable->usb external video card to use the TP as a projectorable device |