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18:31.31jfindlayis there a way to measure ethernet signal quality on linux?
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18:55.24jsmithjfindlay: Back in the good ol' days, I'd run "mii-tool" to at least see the speed and the duplex.
18:57.10jsmithSeems to still work for me (Fedora on a Lenovo X1 Carbon, connected to wired ethernet with a dock)
19:03.45jfindlayI have a 30 m cable to the router that is slow to tune in and sometimes has to reconnect
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19:05.57jfindlayabout 12-15 m of that is through conduit in the ground.  I think I will have to dig up the conduit and space out the power and ethernet conduits with rocks
19:08.53jfindlay~napoleon youtah
19:08.54infobotACTION tames a wild honeymoon stallion for youtah
21:05.36jlp_zncyou're running power and network through the same conduit?  ick
21:05.52jlp_znchow big is the conduit?  
21:06.55utahconhow well shielded is the ethernet ?
21:08.18jfindlaynope
21:08.28jfindlayseparate conduits
21:08.37jfindlaythat I am going to separate even further
21:09.26jfindlaymy guess is that shielding actively degrades the connection if it's not properly grounded
21:09.46utahconhttps://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0014/6404/1539/files/Client_5.png?v=1598279535
21:54.22jlp_znctwisted pair shouldn't need to be shielded.  is your conduit metal or pvc?  the specs say they should be 16 inches apart.
21:55.04jlp_zncshielded cable would reduce that to four inches, though, if it is properly shielded and grounded.
21:56.52jlp_znc(and yes, I know I just said twisted pair shouldn't need to be shielded... in normal applications)
21:57.55jlp_zncif your power is in metal conduit, then you shouldn't need to shield the twisted pair.  if you're using direct burial plastic conduit, though, that could be the problem.
21:59.09jlp_zncif you're using standard house wiring romex cable for the power, pull it out (leaving a pull string behind) and pull hard shielded (armored) power cable back through.
22:23.24jfindlayboth are plastic conduit
22:24.36jfindlayso, if I pull in armored power through the power conduit, that should be enough to shield the data cable?
22:41.16utahcon_should_
22:54.00jfindlayhttps://perens.com/2018/07/03/how-should-you-ground-your-shielded-ethernet-cable/
22:58.12jlp_zncthey should still be at least four inches apart.
23:00.30jfindlaythanks for the advice.  Sounds like I'm going to be digging and repositioning the conduit anyway
23:08.27youtahSo... Advanced Clinical Research is looking for more vaccine trial participants. Specifically for AstraZeneca and Novavax. I believe the AZ CV19 shot they have moved away from all placebo and now are focusing on safety data. So everyone gets a shot that signs up. If you want their info, let me know.
23:20.12th3ph3dyoutah: Is the Novavax trial in NM at all?
23:21.02youtahNo idea.
23:21.15youtahIs there an Advanced Medical Research Clinic there?
23:28.46th3ph3dGot a website? I've found 3 separate advanced medical research places.
23:29.35th3ph3dNvm, found them. None in NM. https://www.advancedclinicalresearch.com/locations
23:34.04th3ph3dLooks like no trial locations in NM. https://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04611802?term=novavax&cntry=US&draw=3&rank=14
23:40.57jlp_zncI remember when my daughter was watching Big Brother a couple of years ago and one of the ... characters?  players?  victims?  anyway, one of the people gave his job as "medical research participant".
23:52.39th3ph3dlol. I had my wisdom teeth pulled by Jean Brown Research so I could pay for some college textbooks.
23:53.15th3ph3dLooks like novavax trials would be me travelling to Phoenix, colorado Springs, or back to UT.

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