IRC log for #utah on 20180313

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15:51.01jlp_zncspangborn: dremex was at a funeral yesterday, as was I.
15:51.07spangborn:(
15:51.45jlp_znctoday he is on his way back to Vegas to catch a flight back to Maryland, since it is 50% cheaper to fly into and out of Vegas than SLC.
15:52.17jlp_zncfare from BWI to SLC was about $800-1000, BWI to LAS was $406.
15:52.39jlp_zncbut he doesn't hang out here on IRC any more... I don't know why.  
15:54.19spangbornIt's probably youtah's fault
15:55.47jlp_zncha, I just asked him why he is never on IRC any more... he answered "because it isn't 1990"
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17:17.03romanovic's reason in _favor_ of irc - "because in 2018 the alternative is Slack"
17:28.09programmerqthere's also Basecamp (https://basecamp.com/), hipchat (https://www.hipchat.com), Mattermost (https://about.mattermost.com), Jabber (https://www.jabber.org), Fleep (https://fleep.io/), Hive (https://hive.com/), Let's Chat (https://sdelements.github.io/lets-chat/), Rocket.Chat (https://rocket.chat/), Skype for business, Salesforce Chatter (https://www.salesforce.com/products/chatter/features/), Watercooler
17:28.10programmerq(http://silverlinecrm.com/the-silverline-foundry/the-watercooler/#app-overview)
17:28.12programmerqso not just slack
17:28.55frostyfrogAt least slack has an IRC gateway.
17:29.06frostyfrogDiscord doesn't offer such a feature :(
17:30.44spangbornfrostyfrog: Not anymore they don't
17:30.49spangbornSlack is killing IRC gateway
17:30.53frostyfrog...
17:31.00frostyfrogI use it on a daily basis
17:31.09spangbornhttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16539857
17:31.09frostyfrogfor work, I might add...
17:31.12spangbornWell good luck when it dies
17:32.07spangbornMay 15th, both XMPP and IRC will die
17:33.01frostyfrog2 days...
17:33.06frostyfroggreat.
17:33.10programmerq2 months
17:33.20frostyfrogOh, much better :)
17:33.36frostyfrogNow I have much more time to spam their social media :p
17:34.12frostyfrogOnce it happens, hangouts will become my go-to for work if people want to get ahold of me.
17:34.21programmerqI'm pretty sure they won't be swayed on this. they know how many users use those services, and they know that those users that do aren't the ones who sign the checks.
17:34.59programmerqfrostyfrog▸ what is the IRC client you use?
17:35.15programmerqweechat has a slack plugin that does'nt use their irc gateway
17:35.18frostyfrogATM, at work I use KVIRC. At home, weechat.
17:35.40programmerqhttps://github.com/wee-slack/wee-slack
17:35.43frostyfrog(though on windows at home, I use KVIRC)
17:38.56frostyfrogweechat is too difficult to manage, especially with 6 servers and ~60 channels in total >_> That, or I haven't found out how to best use it with that many channels/servers
17:40.21frostyfrog32 of thse servers are in the company slack "server"
17:40.31frostyfrogs/servers/channels/
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19:46.03jfindlayhttp://findlay.space/images/work_for_null.png
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20:14.07keldwudwhat's happenin
20:32.52Migssomething's happening?
20:33.13jsmithYeah, but not in Utah :-p
20:33.18jsmithducks and hides
20:42.48keldwudhah
20:45.17Migshttps://www.facebook.com/jukinvideodaily/videos/429040930864563/?hc_ref=ARReMkfmrVmxHCvhfQ2sHCY09V-UOj26GOqMrtocS3nMkw4NtZ4oF_ywpcEH86nsqVU
20:48.25youtahDANGIT spangborn
20:48.27youtahI blame you
20:48.42youtahI just spent 20 minutes trying to debug why $GET_['x'] wasn't working
20:48.45youtahUhg
20:48.50youtahI think I need another mtn dew
20:48.55spangbornFour
20:49.17youtah$_GET['x'] is the correct answer spangborn
20:49.36spangbornHey it's not my fault you can't type pal
20:53.21unumwe're also hiring :) https://www.ksl.com/jobs/listing/784669?ad_cid=1
20:53.41unumyou only need to be able to type and it's $12/hour
20:53.53unumwell read and speak english and type
20:54.07unumpersonally I'd rather starve to death than work that job
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20:59.46keldwudoh 12/hr dang
20:59.52keldwudI got all excited at "we're also hiring"
21:02.57RyanEMy roommate in college used to work for Western Watts, a survey company at the time...  Sleazy...
21:03.26RyanEs/Watts/Wats/g
21:04.33RyanEBack then it was located on Center Street in Provo, in an old building, with packed-in employees in a cube farm.
21:08.54keldwudomg western watts!
21:08.59keldwudI remember those days
21:09.13keldwudthere was western watts and wirthlin worldwide
21:09.27keldwudthe two call centers in provo/orem that everybody cut their teeth at
21:09.49keldwudwait, western watts is still around? how in the heck have they survived?
21:10.14RyanEYeah, my roommate back in '88 basically ran the place.
21:10.29RyanEunknown.  Never seen such a mass of disorganization.
21:11.15Migshttps://www.deseretnews.com/article/700024333/Western-Wats-pays-500000-penalty.html
21:11.31Migslol child labor violations
21:11.44RyanEYeah, saw that in Googlies...  fun fun
21:11.52Migshow does that even happen nowadays?
21:12.25RyanEI assume due to lax hiring practices... :)
21:12.30Migscompanies are reluctant enough to hire minors...you'd think those that do would be EXTRA careful to follow the law
21:12.35keldwudyeah western watts has always been scummy
21:12.54Migsso they're part of SSI now, I guess?
21:13.01RyanEapparently
21:13.38Migswestern http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/173/576/Wat8.jpg?1315930535
21:15.37RyanEheh
21:16.34RyanEI think wats were phone company terminology for long-distance lines back in the day.
21:23.14unumthe owners of my company got their start at wirthlin
21:23.31unumwester watts got bought out by ssi which renamed them to opionolgy
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21:25.22unumof course having one of your vendors buy one of your competitiors is always fun
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21:34.57keldwudoh yeah ok I forgot western watts ended up with opinionology
21:35.12keldwudgood friend of mine was their DBA
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